Forum logs for 04 Apr 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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CheckDavid :( [00:01]
CheckDavid That's abuse [00:02]
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kakobrekla lelzy [00:02]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555881.0 [00:02]
ozbot I'm done with Bitcoin Securities... [00:02]
danielpbarron lol, there is too regulation; individuals are just so desperate to get-rich-quick that they overlook obvious scams in a rush to beat everyone else into the early adopter position [00:04]
mike_c of course now neo was an "easily identifiable scam" [00:04]
kakobrekla yes naturally. [00:05]
dexx inb4: "it's not a scam but a failed business" [00:05]
danielpbarron it's hard to tell the difference; might as well be the same thing [00:05]
pankkake "Until we have decentralized exchanges with open source software" [00:06]
pankkake can we have decentralized scam victims already so this stops [00:06]
dexx well, decentralized exchanges reduce the risk of a scamming exchange, but that's all [00:06]
danielpbarron i think there will be a resurgence of scams once the decentralized exchanges go totally live [00:06]
pankkake yes, that's all. interestingly, cryptostocks… is still here [00:07]
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danielpbarron "The SEC is investigating all of the above" <--- not ready for Bitcoin; go home [00:08]
dexx maybe it would be more accurate to say "we need decentralized companies to end the scams" [00:09]
danielpbarron "bitcoin mining is also a scam" lolol... that's a pretty broad statement [00:09]
danielpbarron if you decentralize it far enough, might as well all keep our own money and not invest [00:10]
danielpbarron I mean that's the logical extreme and it completely defeats the purpose of investing [00:10]
dexx what's the relation between decentralization and keeping the money? [00:11]
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dexx what i meant was something like.. say there are 10 people each with 100 btc each.. all coins are sent to a 5-of-10 multisig address. with >= 50 % consensus a business decision is sealed. << for the sake of an example [00:15]
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danielpbarron hmm [00:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.608099 BTC [+] [00:17]
mgio_ mining is not excatly a scam, but roughly 3/4s of the companies selling hardware have ben shown to not be reputable [00:17]
danielpbarron what ever happened to BFL? [00:17]
danielpbarron i see they are still selling pre-orders [00:17]
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mgio_ very few people have done better mining when measured by bitcoins in, bitcoisn out [00:17]
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dexx if i may ask: why did the sec call you? [00:18]
dexx you in particular [00:18]
dexx and fyi: they called korbman out of the blue, too [00:18]
the20year2 who was called by the SEC? [00:18]
dexx mgio_ according to his post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555881.msg6057442#msg6057442 [00:19]
mgio_ They called to talk about bitfunder and weexchange [00:19]
the20year2 Interesting [00:19]
danielpbarron ew [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00096371 = 14.0702 BTC [+] [00:20]
dexx nono.. i mean, do you have any idea why they choose you? and when was that? [00:20]
danielpbarron I wouldn't talk to them [00:20]
mgio_ They called back in November [00:20]
the20year2 And here I am, chugging along buying houses with bitcoin [00:20]
mgio_ and then I talked to them again recently [00:20]
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mgio_ they chose me cause I posted on the forums and was easy to track down, I assume [00:20]
danielpbarron i think the two most valuable investments in Bitcoin are bitcoins and knowledge/networking [00:21]
dexx ah [00:21]
dexx how can i invest in knowledge? ;) [00:21]
danielpbarron read about all the scams [00:21]
mgio_ they wouldn't give me much information other than there was an ongoing investigation [00:21]
danielpbarron without participating in any of them [00:21]
danielpbarron most of the bitcoiners have no idea how money works on these scales [00:22]
mgio_ i really expected more from neo & bee. [00:22]
danielpbarron haphazerdly slapping terrible business plans together and actually finding investors [00:22]
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dexx mgio_: i didn't expect it either [00:23]
danielpbarron you could spend a solid week just reading all the forum posts about all the scams, although I particularly like mircea_popescu's writing on the subject [00:23]
mgio_ im shocked that people still invest at all anymore. if you couldn't trust the exchange with your money (bitfunder) then how could you trust any of the securities it was peddling? [00:24]
the20year2 I'm curious of that too [00:25]
danielpbarron there are still places to invest bitcoin that aren't scams.. they just aren't begging for investors [00:25]
mgio_ like what? [00:25]
danielpbarron heh [00:25]
danielpbarron idk do your own research on it [00:25]
mgio_ well, i'll all done with it for now [00:25]
danielpbarron stop following whatever the trend-of-the-week is [00:25]
mgio_ i invested in neo&bee when it was first announced, i used my xbond shares [00:26]
danielpbarron if you follow the crowd, you'll usually end up buying after the pump and selling after the dump [00:26]
mgio_ i realized it was a long term investment [00:26]
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dexx is it a confirmed scam now? [00:27]
dexx well, i guess insolvency implies that [00:27]
danielpbarron i read one this morning about a noob who didn't realize he was shorting bitcoin.... right before the price spike...... [00:28]
mgio_ Neo & bee wasn't necessarily, but they aren't too very well right now [00:28]
mgio_ they must have been very mismanaged to suddenly run out of money without warning [00:29]
the20year2 I want to know why they had money in gox [00:29]
mgio_ they didn't [00:29]
mgio_ the CEO had some personal funds there [00:29]
the20year2 Danny said he did [00:29]
mgio_ yes, his own coins [00:29]
the20year2 and that he was covering the exchange with his own personal coins [00:29]
danielpbarron SCAM [00:30]
mgio_ Neo lost money from bitfunder/weexchange [00:30]
danielpbarron i've heard that story [00:30]
mgio_ thats a whole different story, where did that money go? [00:30]
dexx very good question [00:30]
the20year2 I'm curious too [00:30]
mgio_ who knows, ukyo will never tell us :) [00:30]
Duffer1 indeed [00:30]
mgio_ and won't even tell us why he won't tell us [00:30]
the20year2 We've already published our expense spreadsheet to investors, i'm curious how many other bitcoin companies do that too [00:30]
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danielpbarron as many legit ones as there are [00:31]
danielpbarron maybe a lot of these scams will go away when nLockTime and multisig addresses go mainstream [00:33]
mgio_ people are begging me to delete that thread. As if i could harm Neo&Bee any more :( [00:33]
danielpbarron there is no excuse for not keeping your funds under your own control [00:33]
dexx danielpbarron: these things and clever stuff is out since at least 2012 [00:34]
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danielpbarron yeah but they haven't been implemented in many wallet programs yet [00:35]
dexx yes [00:35]
danielpbarron i know greenaddress.it uses nLockTime [00:35]
dexx https://api.trustedcoin.com//#/ + https://www.bitgo.com/ [00:35]
ozbot Trusted Coin [00:35]
mgio_ I guess there is a slim chance i'll see some money from ukyo.loan...a slim chance neo&bee will get it's act together... [00:35]
dexx i hope it didn't break you, mgio_ [00:36]
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Duffer1 are you part of the labcoin action mgio? [00:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00096311 = 2.9375 BTC [-] [00:36]
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jurov mgio_ you forgot mtgox [00:39]
mircea_popescu ok that one is epic Namworld [00:39]
mgio_ yes, I am Duffer1, but I never got around to sending in all my information [00:39]
mgio_ I hope its not too late [00:39]
mircea_popescu of course now neo was an "easily identifiable scam" << butofcourse :D [00:39]
mircea_popescu can we have decentralized scam victims already so this stops << ahahaha best log of the week today [00:40]
Duffer1 mgio_ talk to virtuals on irc or virtualspade on bitcointalk.org he's handling all that [00:40]
mircea_popescu o hai mgio_ [00:40]
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mircea_popescu had you started reading here instead of derping on the "investor" forum you'd be a millionaire today. [00:41]
mircea_popescu just think! [00:41]
mgio_ don't get me wrong, i've still done very very well off of bitcoin (and some securities) [00:41]
mgio_ it just seems to all gone to sh*t recently [00:41]
mircea_popescu not moreso than per usual. [00:42]
mgio_ i should have been content to just let my coins sit in my wallet [00:42]
mircea_popescu how can i invest in knowledge? ;) << trilema credits :D [00:42]
mircea_popescu i think you already have those tho, so all invested. [00:42]
dexx haha true [00:42]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron don't forget the part where they fight EVIL FUDSTERS and my socks. [00:43]
dexx yes, i have a few :) [00:43]
danielpbarron yeah i bought some credits; that's a really cool system [00:43]
mircea_popescu "And the more you scam, the more fanboys you get - it's not that there is no incentive to be honest, it's that there is an incentive to be dishonest." methinks pankkake has it. [00:45]
mircea_popescu the way scammers work these days, they steal a little from a lot of muppets then give them a little of it back in exchange for forum shilling [00:45]
pankkake I need to be banned [00:45]
mircea_popescu apparently works wunderbar [00:45]
pankkake I will never stop otherwise [00:45]
mircea_popescu mgio_ there is recourse re the miner stuff. just, you didn't bother reading about it. [00:46]
mircea_popescu theory is here : http://trilema.com/2013/the-positive-market-effects-of-the-delivery-bet/ [00:46]
danielpbarron a lot of the bitcoin media networks are helping promote the scammers; like letstalkbitcoin, they were giving coverage to AuroraCoin recently... that's woefully irresponsible of them [00:46]
mircea_popescu the practice is here : http://bitbet.us/bet/450/bitfurys-asic-will-work-with-power-1/ [00:46]
mircea_popescu and http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ and etc. [00:47]
jurov danielpbarron: because it's the same people [00:47]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron letstalkbitcoin are a buncha clueless kids. [00:47]
danielpbarron well they are a major gateway [00:47]
mircea_popescu max keiser & stacy herbert were doing the same thing, which is a lot worse. [00:47]
mircea_popescu major my foot. [00:47]
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danielpbarron well you can get their news on iTunes; that's a huge market [00:48]
danielpbarron most individuals don't know what IRC is [00:48]
mircea_popescu most individuals aren't a "market". [00:48]
jurov i'm curious why the effects apply only on mining hardware [00:49]
jurov i was running on cardano bet and nobody came [00:49]
mike_c exactly :) the provider wasn't confident. [00:49]
mgio_ what would you guys do if you were me, re ukyo.loan? [00:50]
dexx cardano.. the gpg thingy which was scheduled for xmas 2013? <.<" [00:50]
mike_c plus, no money was lost by pre-orderers when cardano slipped [00:50]
jurov maybe it was xmas 2014? [00:50]
dexx hehe [00:50]
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mircea_popescu plus, no money was lost by pre-orderers when cardano slipped << prolly th bigger factor. not much to hedge. [00:50]
jurov should have made bet on trezor instead [00:51]
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jurov now it's too late [00:51]
mike_c even still. with miners the pre-orderers are actually losing money every day it is late. [00:51]
mircea_popescu lmao wait, ognasty thinks neo was an "easily spottable" scam ? [00:51]
mircea_popescu bwahaha save me mary. [00:51]
dexx he probably generalized [00:52]
dexx scam = labcoin = neo [00:52]
mircea_popescu dude is running a scam. [00:52]
dexx oh? [00:52]
mircea_popescu spotted like... a year ago or so. [00:52]
dexx ;;google ognasty trilema [00:53]
gribble No matches found. [00:53]
mircea_popescu well i didn't trilema each and every single one of them [00:53]
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mircea_popescu ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com ognasty scam [00:54]
gribble NEXT: 23-01-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 08-02-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 30-08-2013 - #bitcoin-assets log: [00:54]
mircea_popescu nothing much there either. [00:54]
mgio_ so wiat, we are all just a bunch of scammers scamming each other? [00:56]
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mircea_popescu who's "we" ? [00:56]
mgio_ all of us (i was kidding) [00:56]
mike_c if we == forum_users: print "yes" [00:56]
mgio_ everyone who posts on the forums has some kind of hidden motivation [00:57]
mgio_ yes [00:57]
mircea_popescu prolly. [00:57]
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mircea_popescu well there were a few silly people still posting there without trying to scam, but they';re quickly disappearing [00:57]
nubbins` fuck this, i'm getting drunk and listening to blood on the tracks [00:59]
mircea_popescu meanwhile somewhere else, http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3i9zhVhP51qzn5vfo1_1280.jpg [00:59]
dexx hehe looks like no one noticed [01:00]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [01:00]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 446.0, Best ask: 448.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 446.0, 24 hour volume: 27538.79141599, 24 hour low: 416.11, 24 hour high: 465.0, 24 hour vwap: 0 [01:00]
mgio_ has everyone tried the bitcoin simulator? http://www.beepboopbitcoin.com [01:00]
mgio_ its really pretty accurate [01:01]
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mircea_popescu mgio_ never seen that before. who made it ? [01:03]
mgio_ i dunno, someone posted it on my facebook wall yesterday [01:03]
mgio_ its hilarious, play all the way through [01:03]
dexx http://www.beepboopbitcoin.com/about.html [01:04]
ozbot Advanced Bitcoin Simulator [01:04]
mircea_popescu Your account has a balance of 783.06 USD. [01:04]
mircea_popescu im liek getting rich over here. [01:04]
nubbins` quick, cash out [01:05]
mircea_popescu Dear tacoX Customers, [01:05]
mircea_popescu In the event of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on tacoX's operations and the market, a decision was taken to shut down and keep all your money. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly. [01:05]
mircea_popescu lol i had like 50 btc out of the 1 i had originally made. [01:05]
dexx lol [01:05]
mircea_popescu Accomplished: [01:06]
mircea_popescu Anonymous Cryptocurrency [01:06]
mircea_popescu Gave sensitive personal information to someone you don't know [01:06]
mircea_popescu Twenty-One Links Of Blockchain Around My Leg [01:06]
mircea_popescu Went into debt [01:06]
mircea_popescu No Transaction Fees! [01:06]
mircea_popescu Paid a transaction fee [01:06]
mircea_popescu A Bear Called The End [01:06]
mircea_popescu Bought a bitcoin with U.S. dollars [01:06]
mircea_popescu Security And Control Over Your Money [01:06]
mircea_popescu Had your bitcoins disappear without a trace [01:06]
bounce before that it says "withdrawals will take up to 22 months" [01:06]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the light bulbs! you blew these yourself? [01:06]
mircea_popescu You have 0.00 bitcoins. [01:06]
mircea_popescu You have lost a net 24.24 fiat dollars. [01:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes. [01:06]
asciilifeform neato [01:06]
mgio_ it gets worse, try some of the investments and buy an asicminer [01:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00095839 = 23.0014 BTC [-] [01:06]
mircea_popescu Not Yet Accomplished: [01:07]
mircea_popescu Captain of Industry [01:07]
mircea_popescu Create your own financial empire [01:07]
mircea_popescu I Am The One Percent [01:07]
mircea_popescu Make a million U.S. dollars [01:07]
mircea_popescu Pillar Of The Community [01:07]
mircea_popescu Make a positive contribution to society [01:07]
mircea_popescu lol i accomplished all those, but hey. i guess im not the demo [01:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform wait a second. what do you mean by "blew" ? [01:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ever make valves? [01:08]
asciilifeform blew - as in, glass [01:08]
mircea_popescu o holy hell no [01:08]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-QMuUQhVM [01:09]
ozbot hand making vacuum tubes Part 1 - YouTube [01:09]
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mircea_popescu well sure, im notdisputing it can be done [01:09]
asciilifeform the hard vacuum is the... hard part. [01:10]
asciilifeform if embarking on this, get an ion diffusion 2nd stage pump from a university surplus. $100 or so where i live. [01:10]
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nubbins` so i'm googling the name of a zine, i get "a whale" typed in, and autosuggest says "adopt a whale and kill it" [01:12]
nubbins` ;( [01:12]
mircea_popescu must be right. [01:12]
nubbins` nod [01:13]
mike_c i don't get that. must be a personalized result [01:13]
mircea_popescu :D [01:13]
mircea_popescu do you perchance get "marry a whale and help her lose weight" ? [01:13]
jurov how did they make hard vacuum in 1920s? [01:13]
mike_c whoa, spot on! [01:14]
nubbins` haha [01:14]
asciilifeform jurov: something like edison's mercury pump, i believe. [01:14]
nubbins` jurov they did it in outer space [01:14]
nubbins` wait [01:14]
asciilifeform the '20s were not 'stone age.' they had most of what we have now, roughly. [01:14]
mike_c (obligatory note to my wife - just kidding!) [01:14]
asciilifeform (yes, incl. semiconductors) [01:15]
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asciilifeform 99% of the maths anybody uses now, too. [01:15]
danielpbarron i'm not nearly as good at beepboopbitcoin as I am at real Bitcoin [01:16]
jurov asciilifeform: you read the link i posted few days ago? [01:16]
asciilifeform jurov: which one? [01:16]
jurov that they etched vacuum-tube-like transistors in silicon [01:16]
asciilifeform grantmanship. [01:16]
danielpbarron I think i'm really fortunate that I didn't start reading bitcointalk until very recently; i've been completely in the dark about all these potential ways to throw my money away [01:16]
jurov and cuz they are so small, don't actually need vacuum [01:16]
bounce I read they did that uhm 10+ years back already. difference here seemed to be they managed to make it a lot smaller again. [01:17]
bounce different uni then though [01:17]
jurov whats' grantmanship? uni vaporware? [01:17]
mircea_popescu just about [01:17]
mircea_popescu btw jurov people keep asking me if that paper is for real :D [01:17]
asciilifeform ;;google nuvistor [01:17]
gribble Nuvistor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Nuvistor - The Valve Page: ; Nuvistor: Parts & Tubes | eBay: [01:17]
asciilifeform existed. [01:17]
mircea_popescu you'll be famous. [01:17]
asciilifeform this was actually a serious leap in vacuum tube tech - they didn't need to be pumped, or made of glass [01:18]
asciilifeform so the early transistor, for a while, could not compete on price. [01:18]
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mircea_popescu soo apparently teh sa crowd hangs out on mibbit. http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.synirc.net&channel=%23buttcoin [01:23]
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pankkake mibbit is just a horrible web irc client [01:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.07801213 = 0.7021 BTC [-] {5} [01:28]
mgio_ I just read your article on bitbet to leverage mining delays, very interesting stuff [01:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 105 @ 0.00399993 = 0.42 BTC [-] [01:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [+] [01:33]
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turbo_ac100 mike_c: warm fuzzy feeling :) [01:36]
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chatquack shhh shhhh shhhhhh, it's all going to be ok. [01:39]
* chatquack wants attention. [01:40]
chatquack Who want's to drink and quote frank zappa with me? [01:40]
* turbo_ac100 drinkin', no zappa though [01:41]
chatquack ~Well, go on and get it over with it then~ [01:41]
chatquack Well, that's good enough! [01:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 18 @ 0.00812996 = 0.1463 BTC [+] {3} [01:41]
* chatquack shakes turbo_ac100's hand and hands him a beer. [01:41]
* turbo_ac100 is listening to hands on experiences about compulsory auctions. Sent from his iPhone. [01:42]
chatquack woah. /me checks it our [01:43]
chatquack out** [01:43]
* turbo_ac100 frequently lies about his phone though. [01:43]
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chatquack All I found was a True Blood playlist. [01:44]
chatquack Snookie does something or other. [01:44]
* chatquack doesn't have a phone [01:44]
chatquack I smashed my 4s and it felt good/bad [01:44]
chatquack ~There are three things that smell like fish~ [01:45]
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turbo_ac100 Cleaning your tin foil hat will get rid of the bad feelings fo shizzle! [01:45]
chatquack ~One of them is "fish"~ [01:45]
chatquack ~The other two... are growing on youuuuuuuu~ [01:45]
chatquack I know right?!? Gotta change the foil out. [01:46]
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* chatquack shakes the pizza greese off [01:46]
chatquack So, I've got to move out by the end of this month... I'm freaking out. [01:47]
chatquack Thinking about just buring the place down, so I don't have to pack boxes. [01:47]
turbo_ac100 mid-term solution! I like it! [01:48]
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chatquack hehe yes. [01:50]
chatquack I really like my land lord though. She's a sweety. [01:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00095945 = 7.6276 BTC [+] [01:50]
chatquack But my love for burning things to the ground is very strong. [01:51]
turbo_ac100 Listen to your heart! [01:51]
chatquack hehehehehheheh [01:52]
chatquack Fuck it, we're burning it down. [01:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.06 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2} [01:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.04239 = 0.3815 BTC [-] [01:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.10144642 = 0.913 BTC [-] [01:53]
chatquack Oh shit. Dave Matthews band is playing. [01:53]
chatquack I'm totally burning this place down. *love dave tho* [01:54]
chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXuYFih6Y8 [01:54]
ozbot Dave Matthews Band - What Would You Say - YouTube [01:54]
chatquack I'd say, "Fuck it!". [01:54]
chatquack ~MOM, IT'S MY BIRTHDAY~ [01:55]
* chatquack starts dancing with a torch [01:56]
Duffer1 ha [01:56]
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chatquack ~knock knock on the door, who's it for?~ BURRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNN [01:58]
* chatquack whispers, "There's no one out there" [01:59]
chatquack I know most of you don't know me, but you may just get to witness me go over the edge. I just but the live Dave Mathews album, "Rember Two Things" on. [02:00]
chatquack All I can think of is what's his face from SNL on Jeperdy. [02:00]
chatquack Perfect 'Dave' [02:00]
chatquack shhh, don't engage him, maybe he'll go away... [02:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0424 = 0.212 BTC [+] [02:02]
arizona You aren't bothering me. Please procede. [02:03]
mircea_popescu da fuck's going on here. [02:05]
arizona lol [02:05]
* chatquack consoles mircea_popescu [02:05]
chatquack also "pokes with stick" [02:05]
chatquack It's like getting hugged by a hedghog. [02:06]
* chatquack "air violins" [02:06]
chatquack [air violing intensifies] [02:07]
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chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUuYkMHV4w [02:07]
ozbot Dave Matthews Band - Tripping Billies - YouTube [02:07]
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chatquack I think I've tripped harded enough to knock over a few billies. [02:09]
mircea_popescu chatquack donation address is on http://bitcoin-assets.com/ [02:10]
chatquack mircea_popescu's over here thinking, "I'm making money, I'm making money, I'm making money, this is just noise" [02:10]
chatquack ooo I have not been there. [02:10]
chatquack Not that I have much to donate, but I shall. [02:10]
mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Miles_Glacier_Bridge%2C_damage_and_kludge%2C_1984.jpg [02:11]
chatquack I'm going homeless at the end of the month. [02:11]
mircea_popescu you too ? [02:11]
chatquack Ya, that bridge. [02:11]
mircea_popescu there must be something going around [02:11]
chatquack ha right? [02:11]
chatquack I'll probably save up more money than I ever have. [02:11]
mircea_popescu well don't donate if you're homeless, do a nekkid dance or something. [02:11]
chatquack And also, make the least. [02:11]
chatquack ok, nekkid dances keep me warm. [02:12]
chatquack So does the clothes... [02:12]
* chatquack has lived in a car before AMA [02:12]
chatquack oh shit, just spilt beer on my belly [02:12]
* chatquack rubs it in [02:13]
chatquack Really though, my last "homeless" car was bigger. [02:13]
chatquack This is really going to be a bit of a down-grade. [02:13]
chatquack Let's see where that qoute lives.....something about house payment or the car's. [02:14]
cads I imagine the worst part about being homeless is that it's hard to keep up a decent bandwidth. [02:14]
cads how can you produce enough value to leave that state if your bandwidth is down to zero, I dunno. [02:15]
cads It's like game over till someone gives you some clean clothes so you can be allowed into a library [02:15]
cads where you'll at least have /some/ bandwidth [02:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00017899 = 0.179 BTC [+] [02:16]
chatquack hmmm [02:17]
chatquack cads, you bring up an intresting point [02:17]
chatquack I think there is a sub $100 wifi-3g huuhaa in this state, not sure about coverage though. [02:17]
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chatquack Oh fuck, nearly out of beer. [02:18]
cads you can sometimes make provisional deals with wifi network owners in the area [02:18]
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chatquack Oh snap, I should become one of thoese 'owners'. [02:19]
cads I can show you how to give your clients their own unique virtual SSID and password [02:19]
* chatquack loves neighbors that love him [02:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 13223 @ 0.000179 = 2.3669 BTC [+] {5} [02:20]
chatquack Right? Network sec is important! [02:20]
cads neighbors are great but I think in this day of arcane (and restrictive) provider contracts, they're too reluctant to pool resources [02:20]
cads also in this day of strong exploits it's not safe to let a stranger on your network [02:21]
chatquack Net sec should look to H&K... Keine Kompromisse! [02:21]
chatquack eh true [02:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.04294312 = 0.9877 BTC [+] {4} [02:22]
chatquack ok, ya, go ahead and ruin my dreams. [02:22]
chatquack Becoming an isp might mitagate [02:22]
cads you just have to talk faster than your prospect's worries :) [02:22]
cads yep, become a rogue ISP [02:22]
cads DOOO it [02:22]
chatquack there still could be hope as a rooftop point to point ISP [02:22]
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chatquack hahhaha [02:23]
chatquack I like it! [02:23]
chatquack Most people want free movies, not kiddie crap. [02:23]
chatquack eh that [02:23]
chatquack 's an issue [02:23]
chatquack the whole "your responsiblility" issue [02:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00018199 = 0.364 BTC [-] [02:25]
chatquack oooo ooo ooo what about encapsalating (sic.) all the date and encripting it to a 3rd party? [02:25]
chatquack data** [02:25]
chatquack No ISP can know what their clients will access anyway. [02:26]
chatquack There must be a protection method. [02:26]
chatquack Fuck it. I'm just going to drive a van around with a bunch of decrete antennas [02:28]
chatquack The whole town's like, "why doesn't my remot outdoor thermometer work anymore?" [02:29]
chatquack remote** [02:29]
* chatquack kick chatquack Too much talky talky [02:29]
BingoBoingo http://www.beepboopbitcoin.com/homeless.html [02:31]
ozbot Parchment [02:31]
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pankkake nice! [02:33]
mike_c awesome. i don't remember the commands though :) [02:36]
chatquack oh wow. I was looking at the wrong channel think this was it. [02:36]
chatquack awwww BingoBoingo, that normally takes hours to get to that point. [02:37]
cazalla i got the reciept from the atm but was like fuck it, i don't have the attention span for these games anymore [02:37]
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chatquack ha [02:37]
BingoBoingo chatquack: well, it can happen faster [02:38]
chatquack this may be true [02:38]
* chatquack needs to alias mr to me [02:38]
chatquack some thing like alias ls ld [02:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.06 = 0.3 BTC [+] [02:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17266 @ 0.00095752 = 16.5325 BTC [-] {2} [02:39]
chatquack errr ,ld ls heh wow [02:39]
chatquack many wow, such trhanks [02:39]
chatquack ~The street runs by your house to the south.~ [02:40]
chatquack ;;eauth chatquack [02:40]
gribble Request successful for user chatquack, hostmask chatquack!~chatquack@unaffiliated/chatquack. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/56EF11E53FE449F5 [02:40]
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chatquack ;;everify chatquack http://pastebin.com/LtKvtc4P [02:42]
gribble (everify ) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter). [02:42]
chatquack *gasp* [02:42]
chatquack ;;everify http://pastebin.com/LtKvtc4P [02:42]
gribble Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again. [02:42]
chatquack oh well fuck [02:42]
chatquack BingoBoingo is a bit embaressed [02:43]
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chatquack ;;eauth chatquack [02:43]
BingoBoingo ? [02:43]
gribble Request successful for user chatquack, hostmask chatquack!~chatquack@unaffiliated/chatquack. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/56EF11E53FE449F5 [02:43]
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chatquack everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3952c37eb5f16e15af0e603d73f80dc4a6a9acfa209ad36554cb8356 [02:43]
chatquack ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3952c37eb5f16e15af0e603d73f80dc4a6a9acfa209ad36554cb8356 [02:43]
gribble You are now authenticated for user chatquack with key 56EF11E53FE449F5 [02:44]
chatquack of fuck, no BingoBoingo taught me well, I'm just drunk and forgetfull [02:44]
chatquack I'm pretty sure someone jeeps moving the keys on my keyboard. [02:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 62 @ 0.04240563 = 2.6291 BTC [-] {4} [02:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00095945 = 4.0777 BTC [+] [02:45]
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chatquack guh. i'm jsustst a drunk shlab [02:49]
cads Lol, don't get down on yourself. In here. We'll ridicule you :) [02:50]
chatquack I feel much better cads. Thank you. Have something in return: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tctfq4tplQ4&feature=kp [02:51]
cads I love opening random IRC links. Ever since I was a kid. [02:51]
* chatquack strums the getar really hard. [02:51]
chatquack hahhaha right? always a mistery! [02:51]
cads If you can stare into the "eye" of the goatse man, you know you're a product of the deep internet. [02:52]
chatquack I've never found his actuall eye. [02:52]
chatquack oh, "eye". [02:53]
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chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tctfq4tplQ4&feature=kp [02:53]
ozbot Tiger Woods by Dan Bern - YouTube [02:53]
chatquack there it is [02:53]
chatquack thank you ozbot [02:53]
cads yes, it must not move you at all, neither north nor south, you must simply acknowledge - there goes a diety of the internet [02:53]
chatquack ha [02:53]
chatquack ~which one are you BABY~ [02:54]
* chatquack love dan bern [02:54]
chatquack ./nick big_as_the_swing_on_tiger_woods [02:55]
chatquack No missing link is another really good one [02:56]
chatquack REally though, Dan is fucked in the head. [02:56]
cads Look at the wonderful art http://animexpansion.com/forums/index.php?/gallery/member/1-mistystuffer/ [02:56]
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chatquack I love that he quotes Jesus as saying phrases like, "fuck it". [02:57]
* chatquack looks [02:57]
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chatquack wow [02:58]
chatquack just eoe [02:58]
cads that is an artist that enjoys what he does, so I can't fault him/her [02:58]
chatquack http://animexpansion.com/forums/uploads/1344932425/med_gallery_1_645_122090.png mmmm I could love both of them! [02:58]
chatquack So inviting@ [02:59]
cads adorable, right? [02:59]
chatquack Ohmyfuck, my speakers are loud. YeS! ADORABLE! [02:59]
chatquack I could roll over them for days! [02:59]
cads I'll never love anything as much as this man loves to draw morbidly obese girls [02:59]
chatquack hhahahaha [03:00]
chatquack Can [03:00]
chatquack Cant [03:00]
chatquack hmmmm my keys [03:00]
chatquack enter is soooo close to shift [03:00]
chatquack Can't remember now. Something about fat chicks and how I love 'em! [03:01]
chatquack ~Something ab out the missing link, There's no missing link!!!!!~ [03:02]
chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmMsxqWYK-g&feature=kp [03:02]
ozbot No Missing Link: By Dan Bern - YouTube [03:02]
chatquack Going to sing type nowe... [03:02]
BCB did anyone see the texas guidance today [03:03]
BCB *err memo [03:03]
chatquack ~They looked for the missing link~ [03:03]
chatquack ~There's no missing link~ [03:03]
chatquack ~They'll never find the missing link~ [03:04]
chatquack ~There's no missing link~ [03:04]
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chatquack ~We're not something~ [03:04]
chatquack ~You can figure out with an equation~ [03:04]
chatquack ~We are the genetic mutation~ [03:04]
artifexd BCB no. got a link? [03:04]
chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmMsxqWYK-g&feature=kp [03:05]
ozbot No Missing Link: By Dan Bern - YouTube [03:05]
BCB artifexd, http://www.dob.texas.gov/lg_manual/sm1037.pdf [03:05]
chatquack ~aaaalllliens came and fucked the monkey, they fucked the monkey~ [03:05]
chatquack I'm scared. What is that BcB? [03:06]
chatquack ~Seven billion bastards. Screaming for our Daddy~ [03:06]
BCB chatquack, bitcoin analysis from the state of texas [03:06]
chatquack nice [03:06]
* chatquack looks [03:06]
cads http://cdn.3dprintingindustry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Lix-pen-3d-printing-700.jpg [03:06]
BCB Regulatory Treatment of Virtual Currencies Under the Texas Money Services Act [03:06]
cads work of art made by a 3d printing pen [03:06]
chatquack Mostly 5 pages?!?! [03:07]
chatquack fuck [03:07]
artifexd "Exchanging virtual currency for sovereign currency is not currency exchange under the Texas [03:07]
artifexd Finance Code." Nice [03:07]
chatquack FTA "Because cryptocurrency is not money under the Money Services Act, receiving it in exchange for [03:09]
chatquack a promise to make it available at a later time or different location is not money transmission. [03:09]
chatquack Consequently, absent the involvement of sovereign currency in a transaction, no money [03:09]
chatquack transmission can occur. However, when a cryptocurrency transaction does include sovereign [03:09]
chatquack currency, it may be money transmission depending on how the sovereign currency is handled. A [03:09]
chatquack licensing analysis will be based on the handling of the sovereign currency." ughhhh [03:09]
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chatquack wait [03:09]
chatquack it's it's OWN FUCKING CURRENCY! [03:09]
chatquack errrr, "it's its" [03:10]
thestringpuller watch them try to label buying alpaca socks in exchange for cryptocurrency is money transmission [03:10]
chatquack is't it? [03:10]
chatquack altho, I don't know what the diff between money and currency is... [03:11]
thestringpuller it's sovereign by definition so to impose laws on it seems a bit...moot [03:11]
artifexd Apparently not. They only care about how "soverign currency" is handled as per the following quote from near the bottom of page 3: [03:11]
artifexd "A [03:11]
artifexd licensing analysis will be based on the handling of the sovereign currency." [03:11]
chatquack so, someone (one individual or party) gets to name the price? [03:12]
dexx soo.. if i got that right. no atms? [03:13]
chatquack rather than lookin at bitcoinaveragedotderp or something? [03:13]
* chatquack misses his states' atm already [03:13]
artifexd ATMs are explicitly discussed. [03:13]
chatquack I didn't even drive over there and look at it. [03:13]
artifexd "... an automated machine is usually but not always money transmition" [03:14]
dexx yes [03:14]
dexx i read it [03:14]
dexx it's only none, if it's used as vending machine without access to an external exchange [03:14]
chatquack Wouldn't it be though? [03:14]
chatquack Somewhere in it's dump hardware would live the current blockchain. [03:15]
chatquack dumppy** [03:15]
dexx ? [03:16]
chatquack And an api to "it's exchange". [03:16]
dexx it's about bitcoin/fiat exchanges [03:16]
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chatquack In fact, can't we have bitcoin atm's that let us choose our fav exchanges (within price reason). [03:17]
artifexd That would make it sound like, to me, that two-way atms are not money transmitters. I put USD in. I get btc out sold by the operator. I put BTC in. I get USD out sold by the operator. [03:17]
artifexd I don't see it matter if the machine gets the exchange rate from an exchange. [03:18]
chatquack Oh wow. This Dan Bern album is still playing. Talking about how his car doesn't pick up the mexican stations. Wow. I love. ~Live'n in diferent worlds, right beside eachother.~ [03:18]
BingoBoingo http://www.urbanbaby.com/topics/55248939 [03:18]
ozbot UrbanBaby [03:18]
dexx artifexd: i think it's done this way with an atm in berlin [03:18]
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artifexd Hm [03:19]
chatquack artifexd, ya. the atm itself chooses the prices and displays it to you before you hit, "confirm". [03:19]
chatquack well, it's chosen by some unseen algo, but hey, you know. [03:20]
* chatquack turns up the music a bit more. [03:20]
dexx chatquack: the underlying problem: the atm owner acts as escrow between user and exchange and this is appearingly the part is an act of a money transmission [03:21]
chatquack ugh. [03:21]
chatquack not just a snack maching at fixed prices 'eh? [03:21]
dexx you can run it as snack machine and even fetch prices from an exchange [03:22]
chatquack Bitcoin lemonade stands... [03:22]
dexx but you can't let the users use the exchange ;) [03:22]
chatquack buy a $2 lemo and pay with a $50, change in btc. [03:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8052 @ 0.00095945 = 7.7255 BTC [+] [03:23]
chatquack or is that not fair trade? [03:23]
thestringpuller it can be, that would be a pricing mechanism [03:23]
thestringpuller if it's inefficient there will likely be a more "efficient" trade somewhere else in that market [03:23]
chatquack hm, pricing mechanism...coinbase? [03:24]
thestringpuller a $2 lemo bought for $0.50, change in btc [03:24]
thestringpuller or more $2 lemonade sold for $0.50 [03:24]
chatquack hm. countries like their taxes. [03:24]
thestringpuller jsut to acquire btc [03:24]
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chatquack let's give it to them [03:24]
thestringpuller then countries can collect their own currency? [03:24]
chatquack I see BTC tx's from big bank to another as a cost saver. [03:25]
chatquack BOA and whatnot should jump on board. but fuuuuck the quick changes in price. dunno what to do about them. [03:26]
thestringpuller don't worry about the changes in price? [03:27]
chatquack Sell futures as currents? [03:27]
chatquack ya, fuck it! [03:27]
thestringpuller that's been discussed... [03:27]
chatquack neat. [03:27]
* chatquack is drunk, angry, and poor. [03:28]
thestringpuller you don't have to be poor... [03:28]
chatquack heh, but rich in life [03:28]
chatquack Also, I bough land a couple of weeks ago. It turns out that I can pay for it in 3 years with blood plasma alone. [03:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0594 = 0.1188 BTC [-] [03:30]
pankkake davout: http://i.imgur.com/bao4xlx.png - now you really deserve a spanking! [03:30]
chatquack It feels a little matrixy. [03:30]
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pankkake (I'm openening a ticket, no hurry) [03:30]
chatquack might want to frame the website credintals in the same pic. [03:31]
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dexx don't you know bluring is bad? :p [03:31]
dexx better black out [03:32]
chatquack deep blue [03:32]
pankkake true. it's the bluring of Shutter, I don't know how well it's done [03:32]
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chatquack Well, either wait it out or start screaming 'gox'. [03:33]
chatquack Iv've got to pee so badly. [03:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 43 @ 0.0081 = 0.3483 BTC [+] {2} [03:34]
pankkake peecrastinator? [03:34]
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chatquack it's done [03:36]
chatquack HA [03:36]
chatquack pee [03:36]
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chatquack fuck I need to eat food that isn't beer. [03:37]
chatquack or do i? [03:37]
pankkake it's not paleo, don't eat beer [03:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 17000 @ 0.00015218 = 2.5871 BTC [-] {9} [03:38]
chatquack well, I'd still be drinking it [03:38]
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* chatquack puts on some King Crimson [03:39]
chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ubc5_owhl0 [03:39]
ozbot King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man - YouTube [03:39]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg6061595#msg6061595 big red wordz [03:39]
ozbot Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] [03:39]
chatquack *turns it up to 5.11* [03:40]
* chatquack 's ears begin bleeding [03:41]
thestringpuller lol king crimson [03:41]
chatquack *headbangs whilest spraing blood* [03:41]
thestringpuller Damn I'm starting to hate havelock [03:41]
thestringpuller I hope my bet wins [03:41]
kakobrekla lol pankkake [03:42]
pankkake as of this week I have nothing in havelock [03:42]
pankkake yay [03:42]
pankkake (I also have not much coins) [03:43]
mgio_ good for you pancake [03:43]
pankkake well, still divided by about 2 or 3 what I put in [03:43]
chatquack havelock is for children! (can someone explain what havelock is?)! [03:43]
mgio_ do you think they will allow trading for neobee again soon? [03:44]
pankkake no idea I don't even understand any of the statements [03:44]
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mgio_ i dont see why they dont allow it now, people are trading on the forums anyways [03:44]
* chatquack grin begins to widen. [03:44]
thestringpuller ;;estimate [03:44]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6015744763.58 based on data since last change | 6889012087.61 based on data for last three days [03:44]
thestringpuller http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/ [03:45]
chatquack 8b? [03:45]
chatquack oh, havelock :| [03:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7999 @ 0.00016119 = 1.2894 BTC [+] {5} [03:46]
chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adgkDhCjMXw [03:46]
ozbot King Crimson - I Talk To The Wind (HQ) - YouTube [03:46]
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* chatquack whisltes real good like [03:47]
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dexx are you gecko_x2? [03:47]
thestringpuller !ticker h rent [03:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (108 shares, 0.81000000 BTC), 7D: 0.00600002 / 0.00739265 / 0.00750000 (19004 shares, 140.48993046 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00622803 / 0.00900001 (53743 shares, 334.71301440 BTC) [03:48]
chatquack gecko? [03:48]
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chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQKUBrxyBc [03:53]
ozbot King Crimson - Epitaph (HQ) - YouTube [03:53]
chatquack ~Confusion will be my epitaph.~ [03:54]
Ukyo mgio_: ping [03:55]
chatquack ~The fate of all mankind I see, Is in the hands of fools.~ [03:56]
chatquack Oh fuck! WE run this place. [03:56]
* chatquack headbangs more. [03:57]
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chatquack ~Confusion will be my epitaph. As I crawl a cracked and broken path. If we make it we can all sit back and laugh. But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying, Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying...~ [04:00]
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kakobrekla are you sure you are on the right chan? [04:00]
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chatquack no, no I am not sure. [04:00]
kakobrekla well then revisit that question [04:01]
SatoshiJack ;;ident [04:01]
gribble Nick 'SatoshiJack', with hostmask 'SatoshiJack!d05aad12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.90.173.18', is not identified. [04:01]
antephialtic so, I want to bootstrap my WoT rating, I've been lurking in this channel for a couple months now. [04:01]
* chatquack whisper in kakobrekla, "You are a god." [04:01]
antephialtic I can do short term programming work for hire, at reduced rates as I have no trust ratings [04:01]
chatquack ear...there was suposed to be "ear" somewhere in there. [04:02]
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* chatquack wanders off. [04:02]
SatoshiJack ;;gpg eauth [04:02]
gribble (gpg eauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. [04:02]
SatoshiJack ;;gpg eauth SatoshiJack [04:03]
gribble Request successful for user SatoshiJack, hostmask SatoshiJack!d05aad12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.90.173.18. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/5A0C8593D887E89E [04:03]
kakobrekla antephialtic thats prolly not a bad way to go about it. [04:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 22 @ 0.00812899 = 0.1788 BTC [+] {4} [04:03]
SatoshiJack ;;gpg eauth SatoshiJack freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ab5ae4d79e1c9e44f5c140ec470d05f17517356025c972825cd0d9e6 [04:04]
gribble (gpg eauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. [04:04]
antephialtic kakobrekla: yep, seems better than the whole "borrow btc for 1 week and repay" [04:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 62 @ 0.00951982 = 0.5902 BTC [+] {4} [04:04]
kakobrekla anyway, as mp mentioned a day or two ago, these ideas on what to code to boost your wot come across -assets ~weekly. [04:05]
kakobrekla im sure there was at least one in the last week [04:06]
dignork antephialtic, I'd suggest you auth first, just to show that you know what you;re talking about [04:06]
kakobrekla i think someone mentioned doing a bitbet audit. thats free for the grabs [04:07]
antephialtic just did [04:07]
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dignork kakobrekla, you mean source code audit, or just blackbox tinkering? [04:09]
BingoBoingo dignork: I believe financial audit [04:09]
kakobrekla ^^ [04:09]
kakobrekla its very simple [04:09]
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kakobrekla and good community work [04:10]
kakobrekla :) [04:10]
antephialtic ah, I thought you meant security audit. I'm probably not the best choice for that type of work [04:11]
kakobrekla why? [04:11]
BingoBoingo Scan bitbet addresses and blockr.io and make a tool that returns yes or no for "Can BitBet pay out Bets" [04:11]
kakobrekla you dont actually need to code the 'no' part. [04:11]
antephialtic well, I know all the basic stuff to look out for like SQL injection, XSRF, XSS, etc, but I haven't actually audited someone elses code before [04:12]
antephialtic but I could do a financial audit [04:12]
kakobrekla yes a financial is what we are discussing here [04:12]
kakobrekla anyway brb [04:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00095781 = 1.8198 BTC [-] [04:12]
chatquack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IOYD9AkqHE [04:14]
ozbot King Crimson - The Court of the Crimson King (In the Court of the Crimson King) - YouTube [04:14]
antephialtic ;;later tell kakobrekla cool, if all the info is public I'll probably do it this weekend. will PM you for details tomorrow. [04:15]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00095776 = 14.8453 BTC [-] {2} [04:19]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06309169 = 0.3155 BTC [+] {2} [04:34]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell antephialtic what sort of programming do you do ? maybe make that bitbet scrapper thing [04:38]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:38]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you around ? [04:38]
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mircea_popescu SatoshiJack you say ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ab5ae4d79blabla [04:38]
mircea_popescu darn BingoBoingo beat me to it [04:39]
kakobrekla what is a bitbet scrapper [04:40]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla what you two were discussing above. [04:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.06039 = 0.5435 BTC [+] [04:41]
mircea_popescu scrap the address list check balances [04:41]
kakobrekla a. [04:41]
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SatoshiJack got it thanks... [04:45]
SatoshiJack I don't need to be there yet.... [04:45]
mircea_popescu ;;ident SatoshiJack [04:46]
gribble Nick 'SatoshiJack', with hostmask 'SatoshiJack!d05aad12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.90.173.18', is identified as user 'SatoshiJack', with GPG key id 5A0C8593D887E89E, key fingerprint BFAC5777A91C88D4F021C28B5A0C8593D887E89E, and bitcoin address None [04:46]
mircea_popescu wd. [04:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.04338131 = 0.4338 BTC [+] [04:46]
mircea_popescu pankkake pls pay 10k atc to SatoshiJack [04:46]
pankkake ok, give me an address [04:47]
SatoshiJack Hold a sec mp...let me look up atc for a min... [04:47]
pankkake ahah [04:47]
mircea_popescu give p an address when ready [04:47]
SatoshiJack will do thanks. [04:47]
mircea_popescu it's just bitcoin code on diff genblock basically. [04:47]
pankkake well, I'm going to bed, I'll send tomorrow likely [04:47]
mircea_popescu works [04:47]
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tg2 guys can I do some free brogramming for you to get otc ratingz [04:49]
tg2 i can program in visual basic [04:49]
tg2 and html [04:49]
danielpbarron you can't program html [04:49]
tg2 nonsense, i'm programming it right now [04:49]
tg2 [04:49]
tg2 see [04:49]
danielpbarron i see some markup language; no programming language [04:50]
tg2 i also program css [04:50]
* danielpbarron stabs tg2 [04:50]
tg2 lol [04:50]
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tg2 ;;later benkay - i have some html programming expertise to lend in exchange for otc [04:52]
gribble Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "benkay" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. [04:52]
tg2 ;;later tell benkay - i have some html programming expertise to lend in exchange for otc [04:53]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:53]
danielpbarron why not just buy a rating [04:53]
tg2 thats a sock thing to do [04:53]
danielpbarron it would be worth just as much [04:53]
tg2 nvm just gonna sell some drugs on otc [04:53]
danielpbarron how is trading money for a rating any different than trading labor for a rating? [04:54]
kakobrekla html is not a programming language [04:54]
nubbins` ^ [04:54]
tg2 http://i.imgur.com/6VoUJAb.jpg [04:54]
danielpbarron you should trade your labor for money and then get a rating for that transaction; that would be the legit thing to do [04:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00095785 = 20.4022 BTC [+] {2} [04:54]
kakobrekla asciilifeform , mebbe this explains coder vs programmer thingy :) [04:54]
tg2 not sure if reverse trolling or genuinely trolled [04:54]
tg2 trollception paradox [04:55]
nubbins` heh [04:55]
tg2 lol I wager nubbins` got it [04:55]
tg2 lol [04:55]
nubbins` html, while not a programming language, can be just as frustrating [04:55]
* danielpbarron is very gullible when it comes to others pretending to be idiots [04:55]
* tg2 understands given the propency for idiots [04:55]
nubbins` ;;google propency [04:55]
gribble proponency - Wiktionary: ; proponent - definition of proponent by the Free Online Dictionary ...: ; Army Comptroller Proponency (PO) - Office of the ASA (FMC): [04:55]
kakobrekla so can knitting, nubbins` [04:55]
nubbins` kakobrekla no kidding, ever see notation for making a pair of gloves?! [04:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0619 = 0.4952 BTC [-] [04:56]
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BingoBoingo So... more tornados on the way [05:02]
mircea_popescu html is a derpgraming language [05:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10309 @ 0.00095751 = 9.871 BTC [-] [05:04]
tg2 inb4 nodehtml [05:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00095878 = 14.957 BTC [+] [05:13]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete "measuring GDP is more a function of measuring what they can measure rather than what’s worth measuring" haha, this is like your first article i actually like. braver. [05:17]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:17]
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kakobrekla logs sitemap submitted to big brother. perhaps it will make search work better. [05:26]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete the cpi is in fact in question. http://trilema.com/2013/the-wonder-of-inflation/ [05:26]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:26]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla forward soviet! [05:26]
kakobrekla :) [05:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 52 @ 0.10144642 = 5.2752 BTC [-] [05:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 11 @ 0.01289986 = 0.1419 BTC [+] {4} [05:32]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.02249999 = 0.135 BTC [+] {3} [05:35]
ThickAsThieves ThickAsThieves you around ? /// i am now [05:37]
ThickAsThieves so the forum says i'm in cahoots with you now [05:37]
BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/matt-adams-shoves-fan-after-diving-for-foul-ball-fan-f-1557858900 [05:38]
ozbot Matt Adams Shoves Fan After Diving For Foul Ball; Fan Flips The Bird [05:38]
ThickAsThieves i guess i finally made it [05:38]
* nubbins` claps [05:41]
BingoBoingo Chicago [05:41]
BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/white-sox-games-are-eerily-empty-1557725119 [05:41]
ozbot White Sox Games Are Eerily Empty [05:41]
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ThickAsThieves if only a handful of people attended, why are they in the shitty seats? [05:43]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves check this shit out : [05:43]
mircea_popescu SatoshiJack.com [05:43]
mircea_popescu Just-Blackjack.com [05:43]
mircea_popescu guy's adding atc support as we speak, help him out will ye :D [05:43]
ThickAsThieves who is he? [05:43]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Because they dunno how to move [05:43]
ThickAsThieves do we trust him? [05:44]
mircea_popescu i have no idea, he just started talking at me one day. SatoshiJack [05:44]
mircea_popescu well, i sent him some atc and we see. [05:44]
ThickAsThieves cool cool [05:44]
ThickAsThieves SatoshiJack come hang out when you get a chance [05:44]
ThickAsThieves "MP sent TAT in as a sleeper agent from the beginning. Just waiting for the rest of his troll army to get the forums all riled up, and then use their combined mind control with TAT's relationship with Danny to make all the coins disappear." [05:45]
ThickAsThieves get out of my head! [05:45]
mircea_popescu that's not an actual quote is it ? [05:45]
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ThickAsThieves it is [05:45]
BingoBoingo link? [05:45]
mircea_popescu these people are braindamaged srsly. [05:46]
ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553869.msg6062760#msg6062760 [05:46]
ozbot NEO and BEE talk (unmoderated) [05:46]
mircea_popescu dude he's trolling them [05:46]
ThickAsThieves yeah [05:46]
chetty everything is a conspiracy [05:46]
ThickAsThieves but it comes after real conspricies [05:46]
SatoshiJack here.... [05:47]
ThickAsThieves ;;gettrust SatoshiJack [05:47]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask SatoshiJack!d05aad12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.90.173.18. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user SatoshiJack: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=SatoshiJack | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=SatoshiJack | Rated since: never [05:47]
ThickAsThieves do you have a WoT SatoshiJack? [05:47]
mircea_popescu he justmade it. [05:47]
ThickAsThieves word [05:47]
SatoshiJack TAT--we've delt biz in the past --I'll PM you my personal email....sometime....I've used your services before. [05:48]
ThickAsThieves heh ok [05:48]
mircea_popescu " but I had to eliminate most of MP's claims, just cause he's typically full of shit like that" [05:48]
ThickAsThieves you might add some ATC support? [05:48]
mircea_popescu ;;seen velacreations [05:48]
gribble velacreations was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: thanks guys [05:48]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell velacreations are you like fucktarded or something ? [05:48]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:48]
ThickAsThieves yeah that vela dude is a nightmare from way back [05:48]
SatoshiJack Already in motion... [05:48]
ThickAsThieves i forget why [05:49]
SatoshiJack and I just pointed a miner over to the alt pool... [05:49]
ThickAsThieves sweet! [05:49]
ThickAsThieves i'm not allowed to mine any [05:49]
ThickAsThieves for a while wasnt even allowd to own any [05:49]
SatoshiJack Understood ;) [05:49]
SatoshiJack I'm ranked #1 on the pool :( [05:49]
ThickAsThieves it's like 1TH or so? [05:50]
ThickAsThieves there's a channel btw #altcoin [05:50]
mircea_popescu you're not allowed to mine any ? [05:50]
SatoshiJack nope sorry I'm number 4 ;) [05:50]
ThickAsThieves we've mostly overrun it for our own purposes [05:50]
ThickAsThieves yep [05:50]
ThickAsThieves i gave my word mp [05:50]
ThickAsThieves that i would never mine any [05:50]
ThickAsThieves no premine, no mine ever [05:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00095701 = 15.0251 BTC [-] {2} [05:51]
ThickAsThieves not sure it could be proven, but it's true [05:51]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Replied https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553869.msg6062931#msg6062931 [05:51]
ThickAsThieves i also hate mining [05:51]
ThickAsThieves sooo not too hard to obey [05:51]
mircea_popescu can you even mine any ? [05:52]
mircea_popescu ah yes ok then :p [05:52]
ThickAsThieves i still have some fancy GPUs in static bags [05:52]
ThickAsThieves sold most after i made all my money back and more on LTC mining [05:53]
ThickAsThieves i had to use one today cuz the GPU in my wife's pc died [05:53]
ThickAsThieves so there's that [05:53]
ThickAsThieves BingoBoingo, best not to encourage them [05:54]
ThickAsThieves they dont know whats what [05:54]
mircea_popescu the goons are getting bored in there, gotta stir the pot. [05:54]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves watch it all end up being your fault. [05:54]
ThickAsThieves vela probly wont stop til it is [05:55]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: We have to support the Drama or MP loses the Berkshire bet [05:55]
mircea_popescu http://24.media.tumblr.com/2834294b16d828383734c83c38aac08c/tumblr_mk98brAk7N1rihpaso1_500.jpg << moiety is that a manul ? [05:55]
ThickAsThieves the sad thing is, you cant even tell these people any wild theory is wrong [05:55]
ThickAsThieves theyll just seek some other one [05:55]
CheckDavid Awesome English mircea_popescu [05:55]
mircea_popescu CheckDavid hm ? [05:56]
ThickAsThieves dang that girl's bod! [05:56]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: them feed them wilder theories [05:56]
ThickAsThieves i need to behave [05:57]
ThickAsThieves cant go dicking around in the matter [05:57]
mircea_popescu she's great isn't she. [05:57]
CheckDavid Your article mircea_popescu for fuck's sake [05:57]
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mircea_popescu i have like 8k articles. [05:58]
CheckDavid The last one you posted [05:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00095656 = 24.4879 BTC [-] [05:58]
mircea_popescu a a [05:58]
CheckDavid OK never mind [05:58]
mircea_popescu yeah, i still dunno what you meant :p [05:58]
CheckDavid Actually the last one posted in this chat room [05:59]
CheckDavid I thought it was you linking it. [05:59]
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mircea_popescu so basically... you're confused :) [06:00]
ThickAsThieves omg SatoshiJack get rid of that Are you sure you want to leave this page? popup [06:00]
ThickAsThieves ultra scammy [06:00]
ThickAsThieves unless of course youre a scammer [06:01]
ThickAsThieves in that case leave it [06:01]
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chetty http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2014/4/3/turns-out-even-the-price-of-beer-is-rigged.html [06:10]
ozbot Testosterone Pit - Home - Turns Out, Even The Price of Beer Is Rigged [06:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00095797 = 21.8896 BTC [+] {2} [06:11]
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SatoshiJack TAT --- right now we are focused on game play/engine --- The front page is not set in stone by any means --- but check out the chats and the sit at a table -- register an account -- and play. [06:18]
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SatoshiJack join my table :) [06:19]
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MisterE http://www.examiner.com/article/secret-google-meeting-targeted-internet-freedom-iran [06:25]
ozbot Secret Google meeting targeted Internet freedom in Iran - San Francisco Technology | Examiner.com [06:25]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [06:37]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 436.24, vol: 22241.00865357 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 436.021, vol: 19481.42811 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 438.6, vol: 20965.51969093 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 432.87, vol: 156.11726094 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 424.333512, vol: 6938.87890000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 447.54221, vol: 23.20186889 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 447.386625, vol: 74.73693948 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) [06:37]
BingoBoingo ;;more [06:39]
gribble average: 435.712870165 [06:39]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [15:21]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [15:21]
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VanCleef on havelock [15:24]
pankkake it's a scam from the start, it's never going to be profitable for investors and they damn well know it [15:25]
VanCleef ya [15:27]
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mircea_popescu ahaha these idiots are epic. so mpoe-pr left bitcointalk, and no longer being visible is no longer teh evil mastermind. ThickAsThieves is still around, and so therefore he's it. [15:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1540 @ 0.0002 = 0.308 BTC [-] {2} [15:35]
mircea_popescu fucking reptile brain, completely driven by what it immediately perceives. [15:35]
mircea_popescu this is how thousands of policemen get shot each year, notwithstanding they're just lowly blue collar workers indistinguishable from the criminals shooting them in most respects. [15:35]
mircea_popescu meanwhile, nobody shoots a politician. why ? well... he has enough sense not to hang out with the fuckwits. [15:36]
VanCleef heh yeh i was just reading that [15:39]
VanCleef really tarded stuff [15:39]
Apocalyptic got a link ? [15:41]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell nubbins'`* your poster sucks because no penises. [15:41]
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mircea_popescu you gotta be kidding me. [15:42]
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TomServo lol [15:44]
TomServo it's just the middle one i think :P [15:44]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: I dunno that there is anything easier to fake for a profit than "mining" contracts <<< actually, it's a direct translation of the EVE "protection contract". ask diametric he knows how that works :D [15:52]
mircea_popescu zacm: blowback. that's why the us libtards better hope the tea party prevails in the republican party, because if it doesn't, what will replace it they have not seen in their worst nightmares << this is actually correct, or at least i think the same. if teaparty doesn't take over by a large margin, by 2020ish there will be summary executions on the grounds of "being now or having ever been a social justice warrior". [15:55]
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mircea_popescu pankkake:resigned because twitards got upset? what a faggot << this, pretty much. your skin's that thin, you have no business there. [16:14]
mircea_popescu skinnkavaj: I am not holding any shares thank god, but I feel sorry for those who do << you also feel cheeky towards your intellectual superiors, and maintain the delusion that your head works. this is much worse than having held shares in the scam du jour. [16:15]
mircea_popescu in fact, it'd have been better for you if you lost your house, wife and child to neobee. [16:15]
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mircea_popescu and in other news, http://i.imgur.com/xsKUETn.gif [16:18]
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DudeSj ;;ident [16:24]
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chetty http://asset-5.soup.io/asset/7100/9960_5b00.jpeg [16:36]
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Apocalyptic chetty, they should have picked the photo of Putin on his bear imo [16:37]
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punkman1 I've been hoarding these notes, might be useful for #b-a wiki: https://bitbucket.org/abfg/gildedtxt/src/feb5f32dc0523c2717f5b3b05e2f35a5ec22ce6c/exchanges/ [17:10]
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mircea_popescu Log in ? [17:10]
punkman1 mircea_popescu: fixed, I think [17:12]
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mircea_popescu not bad. [17:19]
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kakobrekla want access to wiki punkman1 ? [17:25]
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punkman kakobrekla: I can write a script that turns them into dokuwiki format [17:26]
kakobrekla well, i asked if you want editing rights [17:27]
punkman sure, why not [17:28]
kakobrekla pm [17:28]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/fred-quimby-and-ancient-evils/ [17:32]
ozbot Fred Quimby and ancient evils pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [17:32]
mircea_popescu prepare to haet mp. [17:33]
dexX7 what i hate about glorious linux stuff: simple "install scripts" never work and it ends in endless searches and manual fixes <.<" [17:35]
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punkman ;;ident [17:37]
gribble Nick 'punkman', with hostmask 'punkman!~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman', is identified as user 'punkman', with GPG key id 33588BE08B232B13, key fingerprint F28E0095843B91CB22E7D65533588BE08B232B13, and bitcoin address None [17:37]
mircea_popescu dexX7 word. [17:38]
dexX7 meanwhile in cyprus: http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/04/04/police-probe-claims-of-bitcoin-fraud/ [17:41]
mircea_popescu FREE PUBLICITY! BUY NEO [17:42]
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punkman mircea_popescu, idea for bitbet, play-money tournament like http://goodjudgmentproject.com/ maybe with some BTC prizes [17:48]
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mike_c hehe. i love how they characterize them :) "Cyprus-based bitcoin marketers Neo & Bee " [17:50]
mike_c the press gets it right for once [17:51]
artifexd Today's trilema hurt my feelings. I don't want to be fungible. "I am fungible." What a depressing thing to say. [17:51]
pankkake fungible is a pretty good insult [17:52]
pankkake I'm definitively going to steal that one [17:52]
artifexd The thing is, I'm happy programming. I enjoy it. It fills me with a sense of accomplishment. In my day job, it fills me with a sense of importance and value. And yet... [17:52]
artifexd I guess I shall spend the weekend doing some soul-searching on whether being "fungible" is acceptable to me. I suspect the answer will be "no". [17:54]
artifexd I suppose part of the question is "fungible to who?" While I may be fungible at my day job. I'm certainly not fungible to my daughter. I am probably not fungible to my wife. I am, without a doubt, fungible in #bitcoin-assets. [17:56]
artifexd Who, exactly, do I want to be "not fungible" to? [17:56]
pankkake I left a comment [17:56]
artifexd Whole lotta thinkin' to do... [17:56]
midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio [17:56]
midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio [17:56]
mircea_popescu mike_c i saw that yeah [17:56]
mircea_popescu punkman there's at least 100 of these things. basically "market forecasting" is the 2014 version of the million dollar webpage. [17:57]
mircea_popescu everyone wants to make his own. [17:57]
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mircea_popescu artifexd your feelings are more fungible than you are :D [17:58]
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chetty all coders maybe created equal, don't mean they gotta stay that way [17:59]
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mircea_popescu pankkake answert :D [18:00]
mircea_popescu irc pingdom [18:01]
artifexd If by equal you mean "equally crappy", yeah. All coders/programmers start shitty. [18:01]
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mircea_popescu no he has a solid point. fungible code is good code. you know that famous poem do you ? [18:02]
mircea_popescu http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html < that. [18:02]
ozbot The Story of Mel [18:02]
nubbins` mircea_popescu i srsly considered adding big fat penises to the poster [18:02]
nubbins` didn't wanna force it ;p [18:03]
mircea_popescu masturba-whatever, must has penis [18:03]
nubbins` http://thescope.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/monsterbator-540.jpg [18:03]
nubbins` ^ [18:03]
mircea_popescu yeh [18:03]
mircea_popescu at least octopussy, something. [18:04]
nubbins` amusingly, google image search for "monsterbator" is turning into a pink eye portfolio [18:04]
mircea_popescu that'd be because you're weirdos. [18:04]
* nubbins` nods [18:05]
nubbins` http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-0/c0.0.960.640/s720x720/1044603_600881786612048_1450220467_n.jpg [18:05]
nubbins` they are too, so it's a nice fit [18:05]
mircea_popescu they look more like two plumbers. [18:05]
nubbins` heh [18:06]
nubbins` can't argue [18:06]
nubbins` http://vimeo.com/63242867 for great lels [18:08]
ozbot Monsterbator - Fashionista on Vimeo [18:08]
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mircea_popescu http://zappa.brainiac.com/MelKaye.png [18:23]
mircea_popescu women in tech, long ago. [18:23]
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nubbins` men with initials for names [18:29]
nubbins` hey, i'm D.D., this is K.A. [18:29]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/neo-bee-talk-spam-free-thread.288255/page-23 [18:30]
ozbot Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread) | Page 23 | Bitcointa.lk [18:30]
mircea_popescu plambert should write the manual on "how to create a 20 page thread in a day" [18:30]
mircea_popescu "Illogical? As in giving your money to a bankster wannabee to fund a bank because you hate banksters?" [18:30]
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nubbins` man, i just came across my ebay tab, opened to the "mining contracts" category [18:31]
nubbins` and had myself another lel. [18:31]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: that's almost poetic [18:31]
nubbins` death to banks, long live bankesque things [18:31]
mircea_popescu such self loathing, self consuming nonsense, this western world of the muppetsd. [18:32]
nubbins` like a snake eating its tail but instead of a snake it's a man and instead of a tail it's a dick [18:32]
mircea_popescu "I'm new here, for what it's worth, but your ability to offend and act like an idiot is apparent. You have no friggin' idea why I invested in Neo & Bee. Really. You are illogical. Your statement's so far have been illogical (due to incomplete information) and you act like they're logical without even beginning to take a wise or mature stance on the issue by way of accepting you don't know what you're talking about most [18:32]
mircea_popescu of the time (purely by virtue of the universe's mechanisms; that's not a personal slight)." [18:32]
thestringpuller nubbins`: isn't that an ouroboros? [18:33]
mircea_popescu "also, my butt inexplicably hurts. INEXPLICABLY I SAY! and has nothing to do with the head sitting atop it." [18:33]
nubbins` the snake one is, yes [18:33]
mircea_popescu penisbordos ? [18:33]
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nubbins` mircea_popescu i stopped reading at "your statement's so far" [18:33]
mircea_popescu nubbins` there was some derp at some point going for about 200 words pretending like he's a bigshot [18:34]
mircea_popescu then dropped a there in there. you know, instead of their. [18:34]
nubbins` bigshot who doesn't read books, apparently [18:34]
mircea_popescu adult audience groaning "o yes of course, lots of big shots have trouble with junior high grammar" [18:34]
nubbins` i saw this proposed as a captcha replacement once [18:34]
nubbins` "they're there their" in three images, with a sentence underneath [18:35]
nubbins` pick the correct one and gain access [18:35]
mircea_popescu lol. let all the spamscripts in but none of reddit ? [18:35]
nubbins` yes!! [18:35]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/u10eW [18:35]
ozbot Who cares about robots, here's a much more practical CAPTCHA. - Imgur [18:35]
mircea_popescu win [18:36]
mircea_popescu “Following those posts on the forum, I received direct threats targeted directly at my daughter" [18:36]
mircea_popescu should have been "i received a directory of direct threats directed directly at my daughter" [18:37]
ThickAsThieves ... [18:37]
mircea_popescu because he's on the board of directors see. [18:37]
ThickAsThieves is that really the quote? [18:37]
mircea_popescu http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/04/04/police-probe-claims-of-bitcoin-fraud/ [18:37]
ThickAsThieves lol [18:37]
ThickAsThieves nvm [18:37]
mircea_popescu so sayz whatever cyprus thing [18:37]
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the20year2 oh my [18:42]
nubbins` man. so i ordered a bunch of supplies on wednesday. put my debit card number into three different websites instead of my credit card number [18:45]
nubbins` been getting all these emails saying my orders are on hold ;( [18:45]
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nubbins` ;;seen ukyo [18:49]
gribble ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 hours, 54 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: mgio_: ping [18:49]
asciilifeform unrelated: [18:50]
asciilifeform http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/michael-lewis-shilling-for-the-buyside [18:50]
ozbot Michael Lewis: shilling for the buyside | Locklin on science [18:50]
mircea_popescu stories from a different hell : [18:50]
mircea_popescu http://blog.dolarblue.net/2014/04/el-precio-del-dolar-futuro-anticipa-una.html [18:50]
mircea_popescu "oligarchical reptiles who are destroying Western Civilization" check the guy out. [18:51]
nubbins` poorly thought-out decisions: [18:51]
nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/226y67/what_music_should_i_listen_to_as_i_attempt_50/ [18:51]
ozbot What Music Should I Listen to As I Attempt 50 Mile Ultramarathon With No Training to Raise 50 Bitcoi [18:51]
nubbins` fifty miles. without training. [18:51]
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nubbins` "I know it's it going to suck. I know it's going to hurt. And I know it won't be easy. But, that's why I want to do it." [18:51]
nubbins` i can't even express the amount of fail on display here [18:52]
mircea_popescu well, are there going to be a fifty girls following him a mile each with cattle prods and clear orders to cattle prod him without respite unless he runs? [18:52]
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nubbins` that's 80 fucking kilometers [18:52]
mircea_popescu cause i'd pay 50 btc for this particular snuff video. [18:52]
nubbins` your body would break down [18:52]
mircea_popescu "man killed with cattle prods" [18:52]
nubbins` literally, he will cripple himself before the first 10k is up [18:53]
mircea_popescu it's a good and useful thing. [18:53]
nubbins` at least he's not trying to start an exchange [18:53]
mircea_popescu he should die a bloody painful death so the rest of redit observes directly that no, you can't do anything "you set your mind to". [18:53]
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mircea_popescu guy;s so far the most respectable of the whole bunch. provided he actually does die. [18:53]
nubbins` "I'm just trying to shed some positive light on Bitcoin" [18:54]
nubbins` by dying on the road [18:54]
nubbins` seriously. a regular marathon isn't big enough [18:54]
mircea_popescu tbh this nonsense has exactly 0 to do with bitcoin [18:54]
nubbins` so he's gonna do two back-to-back [18:54]
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mircea_popescu it's a mental problem of kids that weren't allowed to get hurt. [18:54]
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nubbins` nevermind that seasoned runners will train 8 months for a marathon [18:54]
nubbins` mircea_popescu he'll certainly be allowed to get hurt if he shows up to this race [18:55]
nubbins` ah, my sides. [18:55]
nubbins` anyway, work to do! [18:55]
mircea_popescu i walk a good 10 miles a day, but i wouldn't bother trying to run50 [18:56]
chetty http://washingtonexaminer.com/house-panel-to-vote-on-contempt-charge-for-irs-official-lois-lerner-next-week/article/2546754 [18:57]
ozbot House panel to vote on contempt charge for IRS official Lois Lerner next week | WashingtonExaminer.c [18:57]
khersonus do you walk 10 miles for the purpose of getting somewhere, or just for exercise? [18:58]
mircea_popescu khersonus i tend to walk a lot. i like european-style towns, where most everything is designed for the pedestrian. [18:58]
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mike_c s.mg report coming soon? [19:00]
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mircea_popescu yeah. [19:01]
benkay BingoBoingo: ping [19:01]
mircea_popescu likely tomorro. [19:01]
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khersonus have any of you seen the "sign message" feature of bitcoin used for a service in the wild? [19:01]
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mike_c khersonus: coinbr uses it. [19:02]
mircea_popescu not really. it's incredibly badly implemented, and perfectly useless seeing how gpg does it better. [19:02]
mircea_popescu some people do offer it, but heh. [19:02]
khersonus badly implemented, as in, it's not secure? [19:02]
mircea_popescu we've never got to the security of it. it's badly implemented as in, let me find the discussion. [19:03]
khersonus mike_c: I see, I had a similar idea in mind for proving ownership of coins [19:04]
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mike_c you can ask jurov how it's worked out for coinbr in practice. [19:04]
pLambert what is this, monthly reports? pfht, you should tell us they will be ready in two weeks [19:05]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2014#566865 [19:05]
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mircea_popescu that convo [19:05]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [19:05]
khersonus in this case it does seem coinbr uses it to secure coins, I'm assuming if you reset an account password you can withdraw [19:05]
khersonus mircea_popescu: thanks, will read [19:06]
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mike_c pLambert: he's just finishing up the neobee acquisition before releasing the march report :) [19:06]
mircea_popescu yeah, s.mg is going to re-release neo as a zork-type game [19:06]
pLambert wouldn't neeobee acquisition have to go in April? or has he been working behind the scenes this whole time ;) [19:07]
mircea_popescu i've hired the something awful experts that made beeboopity to do it. [19:07]
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khersonus so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. GPG needs: public key, message, signature. About the same, right? [19:11]
mircea_popescu khersonus if i can't have a bot to which i go ;;sig blabla and it spits out a "so and so signed this thing on this date" it's useless toi me. [19:13]
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khersonus can you do that with GPG? I haven't seen it used before [19:14]
pLambert gpg sig includes the date? [19:15]
mircea_popescu pLambert it does, yes. [19:15]
pLambert cool, I didn't know that [19:15]
mircea_popescu it's declaratory (in the sense that the signer can set it to any arbitrary value he wants) [19:15]
mircea_popescu but it's there [19:15]
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mircea_popescu khersonus what do you mean you haven't seen it used before ? gpg altogether or specifically a bot ? [19:16]
khersonus specifically a bot [19:16]
mircea_popescu i don't need/want one for gpg personally. because i already have the infrastructure in place to do that for me. [19:16]
mircea_popescu a contender can't expect me to simply invest in the infrastructure. [19:16]
truffles read "i hate change" [19:17]
mircea_popescu i do hate change. [19:17]
mircea_popescu because if it ain't broken... [19:17]
truffles we have that in common [19:17]
pLambert .. then you gotta hit it harder? [19:17]
khersonus I've seen the MPEX messaging thing with pastebin websites, pretty cool, but, it's not ;;sig [19:17]
mircea_popescu change for the sake of change is like... [19:17]
mircea_popescu khersonus no, but gpg paste is. [19:18]
mircea_popescu it makes 0 diff to me if i type ;;sig in here or gpg in a cli. all i want is to have somewhere i can type into. [19:18]
khersonus sure [19:18]
mircea_popescu and i ain't running whoever's code, so cli is right out for them. gotta do the bot. [19:18]
mircea_popescu now, the problem of making a bot / extending one already present is not worth the mention [19:19]
mircea_popescu provided it can be done in the first place. [19:19]
khersonus I'm more interested in proving address ownership, which you can't really do with just GPG, as far as I can tell [19:19]
mircea_popescu ie, the bitcoin address signature protocol is good enough to support it. [19:19]
mircea_popescu so far, seems not. [19:19]
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mircea_popescu khersonus you can, if somewhat more circumvolutedly. you sign a gpg "x address will pay 0.04875983 btc to y address at z time" [19:20]
mircea_popescu then that event happens and the proof is made. [19:20]
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khersonus but if I wanted to do this on a larger scale, that is not exactly handy [19:20]
mircea_popescu why not ? [19:20]
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khersonus it requires a blockchain transaction [19:21]
pLambert mircea_popescu: but that requires moving the coins, and bloats the blockchain [19:21]
mircea_popescu you can program both gpg via bash and bitcoin client via whatever api [19:21]
mircea_popescu well i suppose it does use a tx yes. [19:21]
mircea_popescu i have no idea how you'd verify btc address signatures on a large scale. [19:22]
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mircea_popescu if it could be done, i'd have my ;;sig [19:22]
khersonus I'm working on something I think you might find interesting, MP, but it will require a few more months of me working on it (just in case I find some hole I overlooked in the implementation that I didn't think of in the planning stages) [19:23]
pLambert I was just thinking, for gpg timestamp authenticity, you could add the last few bitcoin block hashes from the blockchain to your message? [19:23]
mircea_popescu you're not the only one khersonus :) [19:23]
khersonus :) [19:23]
mike_c is it a secret something? [19:23]
mircea_popescu pLambert a gpg message including a block and its hash could prove it wasn't made before that block yes [19:23]
mircea_popescu like 0000000000000000ab79febd4d7e160246f322fb282e1f3a7c449dd5b5c1ef44#294194 proves this line was written no earelier than 2014-04-04 16:19:01 [19:24]
pLambert would that be useful for anything? [19:25]
CheckDavid There is some guy called pop mircea constantly spamming Facebook btc groups lol [19:25]
CheckDavid Always reminds me of mircea_popescu [19:25]
mircea_popescu pLambert often it turns out such things are, yes. [19:25]
mircea_popescu anyway, the above stands except for some blockwitholding attacks, so for instance an empty block isn't advisably acceptable. [19:25]
mircea_popescu also some wiggle room on time. but anyway. [19:26]
pLambert but how to prove message was not written after some point? [19:26]
khersonus mike_c: not really. I'd like there to be a way/market to profit from the BTC/USD price movement, in bitcoin, without there being a possibility of the marketmaker/house going bust, and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position [19:26]
mircea_popescu pLambert by publishing it. [19:26]
mircea_popescu it clearly wasn't written after it was published. [19:26]
mircea_popescu that part was never difficult to prove historically. the other side is the grand contribution of gpg/bitcoin to legal practice. [19:27]
mike_c khersonus: you are familiar with MPOE? [19:27]
khersonus mike_c: for sure [19:27]
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mike_c have you thought through how to avoid the problems it had? [19:28]
khersonus I'm also familiar with CFDs/"binary options"/wotnot that have failed [19:28]
khersonus mike_c: yeah, but what I'm working on won't be "options" [19:28]
mircea_popescu mike_c well since he says "and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position" i imagine he's at least tried. [19:28]
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mike_c well, i am eager to hear about it! not sure how one profits without a counterparty taking the loss. [19:30]
khersonus anyway, back to work, great to see you guys are not afraid to talk [19:30]
khersonus I'll be sure to let you know how it goes [19:30]
truffles lol [19:30]
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mircea_popescu afraid to talk ? never. [19:31]
mircea_popescu in other words, my blog just told me it's only accepting comments from human beings. [19:31]
dexX7 so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. << ?? you need a privkey and a message to generate a signature.. from the sig+message you can derive the public key [19:31]
mircea_popescu and did it in the PLURAL to boot. who the fuck is this we i wish to know. [19:31]
khersonus dexX7: yeah, but to verify a bitcoin message, you need those 3 things [19:32]
dexX7 no, only two [19:32]
dexX7 well okay. depends on your intention [19:33]
khersonus well, bitcoind asks for 3 inputs [19:33]
dexX7 yes, but it's not necessary [19:33]
mircea_popescu they really should respecify the thing, have it spit out a base64 blob which can then be used directly. [19:33]
dexX7 you can solely use message+sig to get public key/address [19:33]
khersonus well, "signmessage "bitcoinaddress" "message"" [19:33]
mircea_popescu address|message|publickey|digest [19:33]
khersonus verifymessage "bitcoinaddress" "signature" "message" [19:34]
mircea_popescu should be verifymessage signblob [19:34]
dexX7 it should have said it's not possible with bitcoind [19:34]
dexX7 but other clients or tools [19:34]
dexX7 http://brainwallet.org/#verify for example [19:34]
ozbot Brainwallet - JavaScript Client-Side Bitcoin Address Generator [19:34]
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khersonus https://github.com/brainwallet/brainwallet.github.com/blob/master/js/bitcoinsig.js#L36 [19:38]
truffles at work on irc? [19:38]
khersonus by "back to work" I meant "back to coding". I don't have a "day job" [19:39]
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truffles coding.. [19:40]
truffles i can triple task too [19:40]
khersonus well, obviously my attention is not directly focused on coding at this exact moment [19:41]
truffles sure [19:41]
truffles so how many errors did u make since [19:41]
khersonus none, I haven't typed single key yet in vim either [19:42]
khersonus very productive! :P [19:42]
truffles uh huh [19:42]
khersonus (yet, meaning since I said that I would) anyway... [19:43]
truffles id rather hear about ur coding fails or procastinations than this gpg .. [19:43]
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mircea_popescu cmyers http://blog.cmyers.org/index.php/2008/10/26/what-i-dont-understand-could-fill-several-libraries-of-congress/ not so bad. [19:51]
ThickAsThieves So I posted about out the Supreme Court found that "narcotic checkpoints" are unconstitutional, in the local community Facebook group. Guess what most people replied? [19:52]
asciilifeform what braggartry! the things i don't understand... could fill a galactic library. [19:53]
truffles it stops terrorism? [19:53]
ThickAsThieves "The fact that they randomly are checking cars sounds good to me! That's how they find the people that are hiding there drugs! Why would you be so worried about it? If they pull me over at random I have no problem with them checking my car cuz I have nothing to hide! Things like this help keep the community safe and drug free!" [19:53]
ThickAsThieves "I think I will call the Sheriff and tell him Thank You and good job officers !!!" [19:53]
cmyers I have no idea why you are reading my random blog entries from 6 years ago. [19:53]
ThickAsThieves "Really! If you think you can do a better job, strap on a vest, join the force and get your butt out there!" [19:53]
truffles cmyers good topic [19:54]
truffles some ppl itc appear to know it all [19:54]
truffles TAT what did u expect lol [19:54]
ThickAsThieves " I don't think it would be an issue if they were stopping everyone. The fact that they are picking and choosing is the problem." [19:54]
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ThickAsThieves "Don't have drugs or illegal possessions in your vehicle and you have nothing to worry about." [19:55]
ThickAsThieves etc [19:55]
cmyers I've come a long way over the years. I'm happy to say I'm engaged, in a fulfilling job, etc etc. But in particular, I've spent a lot of time studying (armchair-studying) epistemology, and how people know things [19:55]
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cmyers certainty is the biggest enemy of truth. [19:55]
truffles what is ur religious preference? [19:55]
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cmyers I am an atheist. [19:55]
truffles are u certain of this? [19:56]
cmyers no. I lack a belief in a god, which is what atheist means [19:56]
truffles just a stab at that certainty think [19:56]
truffles thing* [19:56]
danielpbarron police will rip your car apart trying to justify the search, and then they might plant evidence if nothing turns up! #nothingtohide [19:56]
cmyers I am open to evidence to the contrary, but thus far I ahve seen no evidence [19:56]
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truffles so ure certain? [19:56]
danielpbarron a food says there is no God [19:56]
danielpbarron fool* [19:56]
cmyers I am certain I do not believe in a god. I am not certain there is no god [19:57]
cmyers to discuss how certain I am, you ahve to define which god you are talking about. [19:57]
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truffles well then ure agnostic imo [19:57]
danielpbarron cmyers: the Jesus Christ of the Bible [19:57]
cmyers truffles: no, that is now how those words are defined. I am an agnostic atheist [19:57]
cmyers agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive [19:57]
truffles ugh [19:57]
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cmyers you can be gnostic or agnostic, theist or athiest [19:57]
truffles pick a side [19:57]
cmyers false dichotomy fallacy [19:58]
cmyers there is no "two sides" [19:58]
cmyers it is an axis [19:58]
truffles umk [19:58]
cmyers if you believe there is a god, but aren't certain, then you are an agnostic theist [19:58]
danielpbarron it is not man's role to choose to believe; God causes belief and disbelief [19:58]
cmyers for example [19:58]
cmyers danielpbarron: if that is true, then god caused me to disbelieve. [19:58]
truffles here lies why id prefer discussions with a troll than a "knowlegeable" person cuz at least the troll knows he's trolling [19:58]
cmyers truffles: wait, which of those are you? [19:59]
Apocalyptic hard to tell [19:59]
truffles lol [19:59]
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cmyers anyways, if you would like to continue this discussion, join #atheist on snoonet. [19:59]
cmyers erm, #atheism [19:59]
benkay snoonet [19:59]
cmyers I idle in there as well. [19:59]
benkay irc of reddit [19:59]
truffles i dont consider myself a troll [19:59]
benkay much derp [19:59]
truffles i cant with the atheists, theyre very certain of things [20:00]
cmyers truffles: I could say christians love blowing up abortion clinics [20:00]
cmyers but that isn't very fair, is it? [20:00]
cmyers depends on which christians you talk to [20:00]
cmyers don't generalize [20:00]
truffles its very rare to find a reasonable one though [20:01]
cmyers some atheists are certain, but that is not what atheism means [20:01]
danielpbarron abortionists deserve to be executed [20:01]
cmyers the literal meaning of atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. that's it. [20:01]
truffles at least the ones that self select to those places i have bad experience [20:01]
cmyers truffles: look harder. [20:01]
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cmyers truffles: I agree, there is much derp on #atheism and /r/atheism and you will find some there [20:01]
BCB Bitcoin's Boosters Struggle to Shore Up Confidence: http://goo.gl/uyVOFg (WSJ) [20:02]
cmyers but remember, a "millitant atheist" uses a pen and a keyboard. what does a "millitant christian" or "millitant muslim" use? The words are all out of whack. [20:02]
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cmyers it's like apples and oranges. [20:02]
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truffles they can be religious only in name though [20:02]
cmyers who can? [20:03]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves "there drugs". obviously. [20:03]
danielpbarron a millitant Christian wields the sword of Truth which is the Gospel [20:03]
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benkay it's all sound and fury signifying nothing, cmyers [20:03]
mircea_popescu cmyers because i have fifty million people employed who no longer read the forum. [20:03]
mircea_popescu so now they read... everything else. [20:03]
mircea_popescu incredible how good for productivity nonforuming is. [20:03]
benkay yeah and i bet cortisol levels too [20:03]
benkay you took a decade off that lady's life. shame, mircea_popescu ! [20:04]
danielpbarron i'm really glad I only recently started checking out the forums; I probably would have been swindled like everyone else if I had read it from the beginning [20:04]
mircea_popescu benkay i would guess the work efficiency differential displayed there was about 1000:1. [20:05]
benkay such waste. [20:05]
mircea_popescu ie, about nine hours' worth of ~3 people's work on my side resulted in comensurate value with maybe 10k hours of 10k muppet's worth [20:05]
mircea_popescu work* [20:05]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron are you being ironic or some shit ? [20:06]
danielpbarron regarding? [20:07]
danielpbarron (no, regardless) [20:07]
mircea_popescu also, from the ridiculous tourban department : [20:08]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/embed/ERYKzez97lA [20:08]
ozbot CARMEN MIRANDA IS A CHICA CHICA BOOM CHIC - YouTube [20:08]
truffles carmen sandiego though.. [20:08]
truffles weird i read that happiness thing carl n i gotta buncha sadpanda's [20:11]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron i meant re the abortion/gospel stuff [20:12]
danielpbarron I believe the entire Bible [20:13]
truffles oh my [20:13]
* truffles knows people like this irl [20:13]
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danielpbarron i doubt it [20:13]
truffles that i do? [20:14]
mircea_popescu re-reading this february piece http://trilema.com/2014/on-periphery-and-the-peripheral-ephemerides-are-also-mentioned/ [20:14]
mircea_popescu "But compare and contrast (by which I mean meditate upon) the alt coin with max keiser’s alt coin and you’ll perhaps… you’ll come to something." [20:14]
mircea_popescu how's keisercoin doing these days ? [20:14]
danielpbarron the only other individuals i've met that believe the entire Bible live in a different state [20:14]
mike_c danielpbarron: that is impossible as much of it is contradictory. [20:14]
mircea_popescu mike_c contradiction does not bar belief. [20:14]
truffles well i once was a religious person so uh yea i know of many [20:14]
mircea_popescu he didn;'t claim to understand it, after all. [20:14]
danielpbarron truffles: that doesn't mean he won't be destroyed forever by God in the lake of fire [20:15]
danielpbarron yeah, you don't need to understand the Bible, you just need to believe it [20:15]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron so which part do you believe best ? [20:15]
mike_c words. meaning. what do you "believe" about it. [20:15]
danielpbarron all of it [20:15]
danielpbarron there are no non-essentials; the whole Bible is essential [20:15]
mircea_popescu including the lilith story ? [20:15]
danielpbarron no [20:15]
mircea_popescu why not ? [20:16]
danielpbarron that is not part of the Bible [20:16]
mircea_popescu how do you know this ? [20:16]
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truffles God said so! [20:16]
danielpbarron the story of lilith contradicts the rest of the Bible [20:16]
mircea_popescu so ? [20:16]
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mircea_popescu lol that didn't take long. [20:17]
midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio [20:17]
truffles lilith oh thats in True Blood [20:17]
mircea_popescu mike_c i hope you're taking notes :D [20:17]
danielpbarron so it would make God a liar [20:17]
mircea_popescu not if you believe it. [20:17]
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truffles now that show is much more interesting heh [20:17]
mike_c you eviscerated him much quicker than i could have. [20:18]
mircea_popescu see because the butcher who never needs his knife sharpened does not cut the meat [20:18]
mircea_popescu but merely follows the spaces thatr were already there. [20:18]
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danielpbarron if you believe a lie, you are not saved [20:19]
danielpbarron regarding the Bible that is [20:19]
lalusch wtb neobee shares [20:20]
lalusch lol [20:20]
mircea_popescu paying auroracoins ? [20:20]
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the20year2 Lillith essentially comes from traditional jewish oral history [20:24]
mircea_popescu the20year2 "the bible" is an arbitrary cut-out of jewish folk stories anyway, so. [20:25]
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benkay musta not made the nicean cut [20:25]
mike_c "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?" << well who do you think it was? [20:25]
benkay wunder whylzolzolzl [20:25]
danielpbarron we shouldn't speculate, mike_c [20:25]
mircea_popescu why are you buying bitcoin then ? [20:25]
mike_c no discussing the bible? [20:25]
mircea_popescu mike_c only in latin. [20:26]
danielpbarron we shouldn't speculate regarding the Bible [20:26]
the20year2 From the traditional theological classes I've taken the 'who that was' was satan [20:26]
mircea_popescu actually if a rule was made that discussing the bible in any other language is heresy and lake-of-fire it'd be so much better. [20:26]
asciilifeform koran. [20:26]
danielpbarron the Bible does not say that Satan told Adam he was naked [20:26]
danielpbarron to suggest otherwise would be to add to the Word [20:26]
mircea_popescu this is actually true. [20:26]
danielpbarron maybe Satan did say that, we don't know [20:27]
mircea_popescu the "who told you" question is indeed old. [20:27]
mike_c who else was talking at the time? [20:27]
cmyers danielpbarron: I wonder what your answer to the epicurian dilemma is? [20:27]
benkay (lilith) [20:27]
danielpbarron cmyers: i'm not familiar with it [20:27]
mircea_popescu benkay no, her mouth was full. [20:27]
mircea_popescu cmyers epicurean ffs. [20:27]
mike_c lilith and eve were in the garden at the same time? sucks for adam. [20:27]
the20year2 Thus why i said traditional theological classes [20:27]
danielpbarron the Bible says that simply eating the fruit caused them to change [20:28]
benkay mike_c: don't knock it... [20:28]
mike_c danielpbarron: then why did God ask the question? [20:28]
mircea_popescu mike_c proper blowjob is one on the balls the other on the head. [20:28]
cmyers there is evil in the world. If god is willing to stop it, but unable, he is not omnipotent. If he is able, but not willing, he is not perfectly good. IF he is neither, why call him god? If he is both, then whence commeth evil? [20:28]
danielpbarron mike_c: it was retorical? [20:28]
danielpbarron I don't know [20:28]
danielpbarron more speculation [20:28]
mircea_popescu cmyers " If he is able, but not willing, he is not perfectly good. " << that's weak. [20:28]
danielpbarron God doesn't say why He asked [20:28]
cmyers mircea_popescu: only if you define god as "not perfectly good" [20:29]
danielpbarron cmyers: God causes evil (see Isaiah 45:7) [20:29]
mircea_popescu it unites the epicurean with the cheeky children of today, all presuming they are a measuring stick for good. [20:29]
cmyers which is goalpost shifting [20:29]
the20year2 Dpeends on if you believe or understand the biblical roots of sin and mankind. If you understand those it answers the question cmyers [20:29]
mircea_popescu they aren't. [20:29]
mircea_popescu my lash, and not my slave's butt, is the measuring stick of good. [20:29]
cmyers so god exists because the bible explains it all, and the bible explains it all because god exists. awesome. [20:29]
danielpbarron so it is a misunderstanding to ask why God "allows evil" --- He CAUSES IT [20:29]
cmyers then god can suck my dick [20:30]
benkay how funny [20:30]
mircea_popescu well she could... [20:30]
cmyers he's a shitty god [20:30]
the20year2 That's not where i"m going cmyers, I rather am saying the answer to your question is there [20:30]
benkay an atheist and a bible thumper show up in assets the same day [20:30]
benkay what are the odds. [20:30]
mircea_popescu cmyers problem is nobody asked you see ? :D [20:30]
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cmyers fair enough. [20:30]
danielpbarron He's an all powerful God; if He didn't cause evil (and evil exists) then He is not all powerful [20:30]
cmyers time to go do work I guess =/ [20:30]
mircea_popescu benkay i claim dibs on having produced the event. [20:30]
cmyers mircea_popescu: I agree, you get credit. [20:31]
mircea_popescu cmyers either that or you're not a perfectly good worker :D [20:31]
cmyers I never claimed to be =) [20:31]
mircea_popescu anyway. "evil" is definitely good. much like poverty, inequality and so forth [20:32]
benkay mircea_popescu: you suck. [20:32]
mircea_popescu pain and suffering is a sine qua non condition of human existence. [20:32]
danielpbarron evil is the opposite of good [20:32]
mircea_popescu benkay yeah but only clits. [20:32]
benkay mircea_popescu: i'd rather talk about lasers and encryption and rockets and titties [20:32]
benkay this nicean shit is BORING. [20:32]
mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/f161b6cc73b2beb3608e50fffc7026a0/tumblr_mjv7cihzDH1s83gwno1_500.jpg [20:32]
mircea_popescu ok. [20:32]
benkay what is wrong with her hair?! [20:33]
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benkay i've seen burner chicks with better hair at day 12 on the playa [20:33]
mircea_popescu i guess that's what emo foxy chicks do ? [20:33]
the20year2 So has neobee collapsed with brewster stepping down, or are they still out there? [20:33]
jborkl she needs to wash her nasty feet [20:34]
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jborkl otherwise looking good [20:34]
benkay jborkl: lol [20:34]
mircea_popescu jborkl i think that's a fetish. [20:34]
jborkl well now that is gross, you know what is on the floor? [20:35]
mircea_popescu the20year2 there was some article earlier, apparently they're bein investigated for fraud by cyprus police now. [20:35]
truffles He's an all powerful God; if He didn't cause evil (and evil exists) then He is not all powerful >>>> my understanding was God made His creations and left them to freewill which amounted to this widespread evil [20:35]
the20year2 i saw that mircea_popescu. I was curious if anyone had actually stopped by their offices in Cyprus? [20:35]
truffles acutally eating that apple was the beginning most likely [20:35]
the20year2 truffles: that's the gist of the story [20:35]
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truffles for a believer danielpbarron has a weird view of things [20:35]
mircea_popescu apparently their office is abandoned, employees unpaid went home. [20:35]
the20year2 oh wow [20:36]
the20year2 truffles: not exactly, his viewpoint is pretty common in US southern Baptists [20:36]
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truffles oh [20:36]
danielpbarron truffles: that is not true; the concept of "free will" has no Biblical foundation [20:36]
truffles in some english translation its there [20:37]
the20year2 it certrainly does if you're not a calvinist [20:37]
danielpbarron show me, truffles [20:37]
truffles pfff [20:37]
truffles not at this moment [20:37]
jborkl .b [20:37]
danielpbarron the Bible mentions "free will offerings" which are animal sacrifices that do not coresond to a sin having been committed [20:37]
mircea_popescu i guess kansas counts as southern for this purpose. [20:38]
danielpbarron that doesn't mean man choose to make the offering, God caused the choice [20:38]
benkay .bait [20:38]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/671c9247b6be6e9ef55673b00e1241d2/tumblr_moulc826Oe1qirt93o1_500.jpg [20:38]
benkay EXCELLENT BAIT, OZBOT [20:38]
benkay MUCH APPROVE [20:38]
mike_c oh geez. biblical determinism. then why did god ask who told they were nekked?? [20:38]
benkay such bait [20:38]
danielpbarron He doesn't say [20:38]
jborkl .bait jesus [20:38]
ozbot http://37.media.tumblr.com/449a6c8cbe96020ed4941c4b1ba290e5/tumblr_mn92i2q8GK1rj77kao1_500.jpg [20:38]
the20year2 If choice doesn't exist, then why does Christ say "Come to me all who are weary" [20:38]
mike_c he's just asking random questions for no reason because he already knew and he made eve do it anyway? [20:38]
truffles mike_c simple answer He knoweth all [20:38]
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mike_c DON'T YOU SEE THIS MAKES NO SENSE. [20:39]
danielpbarron the20year2: He doesn't say [20:39]
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danielpbarron mike_c: you've never asked a retorical question? [20:39]
the20year2 In Matthew 11:28 he doesn't? [20:39]
mircea_popescu he's just asking random questions for no reason because he already knew and he made eve do it anyway? << i actually do this. [20:39]
jborkl mircea, is -pr still banished from the forum? [20:39]
mircea_popescu much to [noob] slavegirl frustration. [20:39]
truffles lol banished [20:40]
danielpbarron the20year2: no, He doesn't say why He asked that question [20:40]
mircea_popescu jborkl i have no idea but i'd imagine so ? [20:40]
mike_c 1) He made eve eat the apple. 2) He knew who told eve she was nekked. 3) He had a conversation about it with her anyway, already knowing the answers, the outcome of the conversation, and everything that would happen before and after. [20:40]
benkay mike_c: stahpo [20:40]
mircea_popescu sooo ? [20:40]
benkay mike_c: stahp stahp stahp stahp [20:40]
danielpbarron mike_c: we don't know that someone told Eve she was naked [20:40]
truffles whatd did she do that she didnt already do that caused banishment?? [20:40]
mike_c sorry sorry. [20:40]
mike_c i'm out. [20:40]
benkay you're fired [20:40]
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the20year2 He told them to come to him who are weary, burdened, ect so they could believe in Him, so they could be changed. If it wasn't a choice ,Christ would have never said ' come to me', he would have just done it to those whom he was speaking to. [20:40]
benkay the20year2! [20:40]
benkay you too! [20:40]
benkay cut it out! [20:41]
the20year2 Meh [20:41]
the20year2 I've made my point, i'm done [20:41]
benkay thank you. [20:41]
mike_c mircea_popescu: yes, humans (not omnipotent, not omniscient) do things like this. [20:41]
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danielpbarron the20year2: you are adding to the word; you don't know what God should or shouldn't have done [20:41]
the20year2 Just quoting it from the book [20:41]
midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio [20:41]
danielpbarron you are saying what Christ should have done; who are you to reply against God? [20:41]
mircea_popescu mike_c you're familiar with frame of reference. it can readily be argued that in that context, i am actually both. [20:42]
mike_c readily? hardly. powerful and knowledgable is not omnipotent and omniscient. [20:42]
mircea_popescu but in the context of a slavegirl and her universe, the master is both. [20:42]
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truffles she can stab u at any time [20:43]
mircea_popescu that flows from the role definition, not much argument even. [20:43]
mircea_popescu truffles not more than you can fly at any time. [20:43]
the20year2 I posted on BTCtalk, but i'm thinking in light of what's going on with N&B and danny that we (RS) elect a special POA in case I disappear [20:43]
mircea_popescu the20year2 just make sure it doesn't turn into a novel way to "sorry lost all the coins". [20:43]
mike_c so god is just fucking with us so he can play out a power trip. hm. [20:43]
the20year2 I've already contacted a liquidation specialist, and our corp atty to see what needs to be done, granted in real estate I've done it before plenty of times. That way if i was to get run over by a bus, die from too much blow, ect there'd be an automatic liquidation process that would go through [20:44]
mircea_popescu mike_c you ascribe tho. slavery is not necessarily or even much about power tripping. [20:44]
danielpbarron the Biblical concept of slavery is more of a business deal [20:44]
truffles mike_c i dont think God needs to do that, thats what ppl like mp are for [20:44]
mike_c well, then you are saying the slave is doing something useful. what are we doing that is useful for god? [20:45]
mircea_popescu i am not saying that. [20:45]
the20year2 A local landlord here hired a liquidation company for a few of her properties, in the end she got way more than I would have ever predicted [20:45]
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mike_c ok socrates, help me out :) [20:45]
mircea_popescu how ? [20:45]
mike_c what are you saying. [20:45]
mircea_popescu i am saying that what you propose about god is within my own personal experience, and in the experience of people i know. this has factually happened. [20:45]
mircea_popescu yet you presented it as an exercise in absurdity. [20:46]
mircea_popescu well... it can't be that. [20:46]
truffles u dont know her thoughts at all times for 1 [20:46]
tg2 ITT god trolls #bitocin-assets [20:46]
mircea_popescu tg2 yeah you're getting a definite pay cut. [20:47]
mike_c but you do those things for a reason. so unless god had a reason, the parallel is not there. i can not imagine what you are saying god's reason is. [20:47]
the20year2 For those of you that live in europe, what does home insurance run? [20:47]
SatoshiJack I believe the Son of God rocks for sure -- No one could kick Hercules's ass ! [20:47]
mircea_popescu mike_c you familiar with the cause/purpose distinction ? [20:47]
mike_c i am aware there is a distinction. [20:47]
tg2 too lazy to scroll up, what are we arguing about [20:47]
mircea_popescu ok. ascribing a purpose to my actions is what frustrates the slavegirls, too. [20:47]
mircea_popescu it's not accessible from their frame. [20:48]
the20year2 and tank girls? [20:48]
mike_c hm. [20:48]
tg2 and then, unto his followers, he said, "scroll, and all shall become clear". [20:48]
the20year2 lol [20:48]
truffles Someone made the discussion about themself, why he is like God to his slave because he locks her up etc.. [20:48]
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tg2 her = ? [20:49]
tg2 somebody has a slavegirl? [20:49]
mircea_popescu hismom. hence butthurt. [20:49]
truffles supposedly [20:49]
tg2 shit I better step my game up [20:49]
tg2 hismom LOL [20:49]
mircea_popescu tg2 http://trilema.com/2010/test-de-cultura-vizuala-8/ there, just for you. [20:50]
the20year2 what silly language is that in? [20:50]
the20year2 all the words look funny [20:50]
truffles lol [20:50]
mircea_popescu it's Funnyanian. [20:50]
tg2 your romanian [20:50]
tg2 is too heavily written [20:50]
tg2 ;) [20:50]
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rithm you are [20:50]
truffles its prob some easy language dont worry [20:50]
rithm or the romanian belongs to someone [20:50]
mike_c ok. so you are saying that chapter in genesis makes sense if we are god's slaves. i can accept that. [20:50]
mircea_popescu mike_c im not saying it makes sense, i'm merely saying thaty your proposed explanation of why it wouldn't make sense is a description of what you didn't understand of it and nothing more. [20:51]
truffles i cant [20:51]
rithm r u guys talking about christianity [20:51]
rithm why the fuck. [20:51]
mircea_popescu whether it does or does not make sense, as far as your raa goes it might as well. [20:51]
mircea_popescu rithm because i am evil and they are easily tempted. [20:52]
tg2 #rekt [20:52]
mircea_popescu same reason everything else happens in here. [20:52]
truffles well i think i brought up the religion thing [20:52]
tg2 mircea, do you even god? [20:52]
rithm oic this is your fanciful game, not theirs [20:52]
danielpbarron the master cannot neccessarily cause the slave to make choices; God can [20:52]
truffles and some ppl ran with it [20:52]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron tell that to the slave. [20:52]
mike_c no, you are not saying it makes sense. but you are saying that it would make sense if we were god's slaves. there may be other explanations, but that is one possibility that makes sense. i'm pretty sure you said that. [20:52]
tg2 god gave man free will [20:52]
midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio [20:52]
mircea_popescu mike_c sure. [20:52]
danielpbarron a master can make a slave WISH he made a certain choice; God can literally cause the choice to be made [20:52]
mircea_popescu like that it works. [20:52]
tg2 so that he could judge him [20:53]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron ever been a slave ? [20:53]
tg2 obv [20:53]
danielpbarron yes [20:53]
truffles danielpbarron id agree with that [20:53]
danielpbarron i am currently [20:53]
mircea_popescu to whom ? [20:53]
the20year2 daniel lives in western africa [20:53]
rithm does god exist everywhere or not. I mean this whole omnipresence thing just makes me think I'm god..... [20:53]
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danielpbarron to Jesus and to the United States of America Corporation [20:53]
tg2 where was it assumed that god can cause the choice to be made? [20:53]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron well so there you go, your master can make you make a choice. qed. [20:53]
danielpbarron yes, Jesus can [20:54]
mircea_popescu luke's like gonna read this log and fall over. [20:54]
tg2 lol [20:54]
danielpbarron but that is not inherent in His role as master [20:54]
the20year2 mircea_popescu: you've paid attention to this whole HFT thing, right? [20:54]
mircea_popescu the20year2 sort-of. [20:54]
the20year2 You were talking about it yesterday [20:54]
danielpbarron Luke-Jr is on his way to hell; catholicism is a false religion [20:54]
truffles lol [20:54]
tg2 somebody ask assbot what he thinks on the matter [20:54]
danielpbarron I hope he repents of course; it's not too late [20:54]
mircea_popescu ;;coin [20:54]
gribble heads [20:54]
the20year2 I'm curious, how many catholics do you personally know and talk to daniel? [20:54]
danielpbarron i know at least one "irl" but probably more [20:55]
tg2 none, they are all hethens [20:55]
tg2 amirite [20:55]
the20year2 how often do you talk to them about catholicism? [20:55]
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tg2 I married a catholic and didn't get married in a church, does that make me OK? [20:55]
mircea_popescu tg2 did you gangbang afterwards ? [20:55]
danielpbarron often enough to know that most catholics don't even believe their own false dogma, let alone the real Gospel [20:55]
jborkl what God is the correct one, I need to make sure to pick correctly- kinda important. [20:55]
tg2 mircea_popescu, with holy water as lube [20:56]
the20year2 What's your sample size daniel? [20:56]
danielpbarron jborkl: the Jesus Christ of the Bible (see: http://atruechurch.info/ ) [20:56]
mircea_popescu holy shit this is a brilliant idea [20:56]
tg2 if it's catholic holy waters, does that make it ok? [20:56]
mircea_popescu sell holy lube! [20:56]
pankkake jborkl: this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.0 [20:56]
jborkl What happens to everyone that picked the wrong one? [20:56]
mircea_popescu god damn it i got pankkake -rolled into reading my own consecration thread. [20:56]
the20year2 who's site is that daniel? [20:56]
truffles fail religious ppl dont ejac [20:56]
danielpbarron the20year2: I'm not claiming any scientific rigor here [20:57]
tg2 may thy fornication be lubricous [20:57]
danielpbarron the20year2: Darwin Fish [20:57]
cryptolemming Hi, I'm new here, would just like to introduce we will be announcing a pre-launch of our dice-inspired games casino in the coming weeks. Will be around here a bit in the meantime and likely moreso after launch. [20:57]
pankkake it's more of a MPOE-PR consecration [20:57]
the20year2 you're just making a statement of 1.2 billion people based on a few you know [20:57]
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tg2 and unto thee, god said "adulterers and fornicators rejoice, as my gift to thee I bestow the holiest of librification" [20:57]
the20year2 "Everyone is wrong but us!" [20:57]
mircea_popescu anyway, in a doomed effort to improve the porn-to-text ratio of this god forsaken channel, i present you [20:57]
mircea_popescu http://37.media.tumblr.com/088d6d825684af5af652308ec79f8160/tumblr_mhtyo5sIsL1qa258ao1_1280.jpg [20:57]
mircea_popescu cryptolemming nice name. welcome. [20:57]
tg2 and sodomites [20:58]
danielpbarron the20year2: none of the catholics i've met "irl" actually believe the catholic dogma; and NO CATHOLIC EVER has believed the entire Bible [20:58]
tg2 ;;ident [20:58]
gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is not identified. [20:58]
cryptolemming thank you glad to be here, figure it's about time I learned how to navigate IRC chat etc [20:58]
tg2 ;;gpg eauth tg2 [20:58]
gribble Request successful for user tg2, hostmask tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/31FAA963C3333333 [20:58]
mircea_popescu cryptolemming so what's your name and who are "we" ? [20:58]
jborkl you can tell she has not been there long, she has not shit in the corner yet [20:58]
pankkake https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Slave_at_St._Andrews_cross_(3092).jpg/768px-Slave_at_St._Andrews_cross_(3092).jpg probably more related to the discussion [20:58]
mircea_popescu jborkl whoa sometimes you scare me. [20:58]
the20year2 danielpbarron: That's interesting because i know at least one who does [20:58]
jborkl lol [20:59]
tg2 ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e55810a88948699504563318b2939d86ba323f6e556adead185d3cb6 [20:59]
danielpbarron the20year2: does what? believe the false catholic dogma? [20:59]
gribble You are now authenticated for user tg2 with key 31FAA963C3333333 [20:59]
the20year2 but my sample size is of about 15 catholics [20:59]
truffles whoa thats a lot dude [20:59]
cryptolemming Ali Ayoub, 'we' includes 2 deveopers, one backend - yellowdog from satoshirat, and frontend - qwyz [20:59]
the20year2 When you say 'whole bible' do you mean exactly as you interpet it? [20:59]
cryptolemming *developers [20:59]
mircea_popescu cryptolemming ah i recall you. so get in the wot ? [20:59]
danielpbarron the20year2: yes, the Bible says believers will be of "one mind" [20:59]
cryptolemming I believe so, authoriz etc although no history etc [21:00]
the20year2 But if it's literal that means all christians share the exact same physical brain, if you believe in strict literal interpetation [21:00]
truffles danielpbarron now ure of one mind with the church of bitcoin!! [21:00]
mircea_popescu and they don;t ? [21:00]
danielpbarron the20year2: it doesn't say "one brain" [21:00]
nubbins` nothing lulzier than people talking about the bible as it's translated into English [21:00]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i did mention latrin dun haet. [21:00]
nubbins` you're exempt! [21:01]
danielpbarron i will dump bitcoin in a second if circumstances change [21:01]
the20year2 what circumstances? [21:01]
danielpbarron whatever [21:01]
truffles ye of little faith [21:01]
mircea_popescu !b 3 [21:01]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1770700/plain/) [21:01]
the20year2 If the leader of your church says to? [21:01]
mircea_popescu damn truffles. [21:01]
danielpbarron my point is; bitcoin is not eternal, not worth going to hell over [21:01]
truffles owned [21:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00096072 = 10.2317 BTC [-] {2} [21:01]
nubbins` whenever someone claims "the bible says x" and they don't speak greek or hebrew, it's actually okay to hit them in the face [21:01]
asciilifeform hellcoin [21:01]
the20year2 so why are you here? [21:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform mined by proof of smoke ? [21:01]
nubbins` ^ [21:02]
nubbins` hahah [21:02]
the20year2 hebrew and greek certainly bring a whole new aspect to reading the bible [21:02]
nubbins` burning-bushchain [21:02]
asciilifeform proof-of-torment [21:02]
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nubbins` the20year2: it could be successfully argued that english is what brings a new aspect to it. [21:02]
danielpbarron the20year2: i like Bitcoin at the moment [21:02]
the20year2 mircea_popescu: reason i asked about HFT was this is on the 1st page of reddit - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-03/bats-admits-ceo-lied-about-hft-cnbc [21:02]
mircea_popescu nubbins` actually, greek, aramaic and latin. hebrew is more like... you know, the sort of boxed edition they release 10 years after the movie. [21:02]
nubbins` heeh [21:02]
nubbins` fair [21:02]
mircea_popescu the20year2 what specifically about it ? [21:02]
mike_c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=414857.0 [21:03]
ozbot [ANN] [GOD] Jesuscoin Scrypt New Altcoin [21:03]
danielpbarron ew [21:03]
nubbins` i'm actually working on a project right now, silkscreening a copy of the gospel according to mark in scriptio continua [21:03]
mircea_popescu that boxed edition where you discover the supersexy voice actress is a 4 foot 6 troll. [21:03]
nubbins` let me find a page [21:03]
mircea_popescu mike_c i wonder if they have jesuscoin jesusi [21:04]
the20year2 just that they stated he lied [21:04]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/EOdFATK [21:04]
ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer [21:04]
mike_c lol. maybe they can get ver to convert [21:04]
nubbins` ^ source material [21:04]
cryptolemming so a rather eclectic collection of conversation points here I take it, look forward to getting to know some of you better in time. for now, I'll resist the temptation to bring up neo & bee, if not primarily bc I can only assume it's been discussed to ends. [21:05]
nubbins` the guy who's financing this project is scribing the whole fucking thing by hand [21:05]
mircea_popescu cryptolemming kinda. you know how to pull up the logs ? [21:05]
cryptolemming I do not, will be making friends with the help menu in the coming week. [21:06]
mircea_popescu !topic [21:06]
mircea_popescu eh fu assbot. [21:06]
mircea_popescu ;;topic [21:06]
gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [21:06]
cryptolemming okay great thanks [21:06]
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cryptolemming ;;topic [21:10]
gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [21:10]
cryptolemming ;;neo [21:11]
gribble Error: "neo" is not a valid command. [21:11]
cryptolemming trial and error ftw [21:11]
mircea_popescu !t h neobee [21:11]
assbot Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'? [21:11]
mircea_popescu seriously ?! [21:11]
mircea_popescu !t h rent [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (163 shares, 1.22250000 BTC), 7D: 0.00610000 / 0.00742383 / 0.00750000 (18519 shares, 137.48186661 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00623288 / 0.00900001 (53660 shares, 334.45651440 BTC) [21:11]
cryptolemming will continue to lurk and take my newb spam to private, cheers [21:12]
mike_c !t h neobeeq [21:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00185115 / 0.00207117 / 0.00242900 (6618 shares, 13.70700255 BTC), 30D: 0.00155000 / 0.00330782 / 0.00450000 (425696 shares, 1408.12547591 BTC) [21:13]
mircea_popescu what sorceryq is thisq ?! [21:13]
mike_c they changed the symbol [21:13]
wywialm_ mircea_popescu, bible and latin? you sure? [21:13]
mircea_popescu wywialm_ thomas. [21:13]
wywialm_ which thomas? still not getting it [21:14]
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mircea_popescu Thomas Aquinas, Doctor Angelicus, Doctor Communis, Doctor Universalis. [21:15]
numerisTrade well, ok, he commented the latin translation, but still translation and not the original - i thought nubbins` referred to original languages [21:18]
mircea_popescu latin is as much an orginal language of the bible as greek is. [21:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00096053 = 16.329 BTC [-] {2} [21:19]
mircea_popescu "translation" has to be taken with a grain of salt in this context. it's not what we're used with. [21:20]
wywialm_ please expain [21:20]
wywialm_ explain* [21:20]
truffles this has lasted longer than the other boring topic wierdness! [21:20]
mircea_popescu well, a set of texts which was originally written in mostly aramaic has been transalted. for the eastern church, centered around byzantium and the eastern dioceses, in greek. [21:21]
mircea_popescu for the western church, centered around rome and the western (mostly, gaulish) dioceses in latin. [21:21]
mircea_popescu these are very much equally so "originals" even if the two bibles are only considered the same item for the sake of laziness. [21:21]
mircea_popescu otherwise the story of the irreducible differences would easily fill the libraries. which it had been filling, 500 to 1500 ad. [21:22]
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mircea_popescu fortunately people found better inanity to bother with [21:22]
mircea_popescu such as ipads and what was jane doe wearing under her skirt. [21:23]
kakobrekla >Popescu's best buddy the Frenchman pankkake is also in this deep. He has taken money from MP to carryout attacks on all things not MPEx. Pankkake knows enough to put MP behind bars for blackmail, extortion, commercial attacks. If the FBI put pressure on pankkake he will talk. The French bow to pressure very easily. Always have. [21:24]
truffles sick [21:24]
mircea_popescu pankkake awww, sammy, you'd sing ?! under pressure ?! [21:24]
pankkake I've dealt with a lot of stupid on the interebs but this is… I don't even want to reply to the thing [21:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06299999 = 0.882 BTC [+] {2} [21:25]
truffles the insult about being french? [21:25]
pankkake I got out trolled [21:25]
mircea_popescu pankkake you lose. [21:25]
mircea_popescu ;;google translate "nu te pune cu prostu' ca are mintea odihnita" [21:25]
gribble (google translate [to] ) -- Returns translated from into . Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results. [21:25]
mircea_popescu ;;google translate romanian english "nu te pune cu prostu' ca are mintea odihnita" [21:26]
gribble Error: Google says: Response Status 403: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html. [21:26]
mircea_popescu derp. [21:26]
pankkake the best is that the two found each other in their desperation - they both lost a lot in scams, and made a common merged enemy [21:26]
truffles some1 found u as easy bait lol [21:27]
mircea_popescu i just hope nobody takes offense at the bff suggestion. i love lots of you just as much! [21:27]
truffles Napoleon wasnt weak why dont they mention him? [21:28]
pankkake apparently I also know a lot of stuff [21:28]
mircea_popescu anyway, i wonder what the root of this imaginary crime of "commercial attacks" is supposed to be. a mistranslation or something ? [21:28]
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pankkake but stuartuk is supposed to be from the uk [21:29]
pankkake they really like the competition, antitrust, whatever, laws, it seems [21:29]
mircea_popescu how is neobee supposed to be a competitor for anyone again ? [21:29]
mircea_popescu weren't they very limited geographically ? [21:29]
truffles neobee envy? [21:30]
mircea_popescu maybe that's most of what's reported in the press they read, so that's what they think about. [21:31]
mircea_popescu tbh it'd be kinda flattering for mpex to get sued by some antitrust regulator. [21:31]
pankkake indeed [21:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 999 @ 0.00039819 = 0.3978 BTC [-] {5} [21:34]
mircea_popescu anyway, why so much racism ? [21:35]
mircea_popescu im sure the british would sing under pressure as much as teh french. [21:36]
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truffles i think the word u seek is prejudice [21:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 612 @ 0.00086381 = 0.5287 BTC [-] {2} [21:37]
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wywialm_ french is different race than british [21:39]
truffles u mean country? [21:40]
danielpbarron there is one human race; genetic differences are minor [21:40]
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HeySteve one human species, many races [21:41]
ThickAsThieves dafuck, Havelock is gonna resume neo trading? [21:42]
wywialm_ i mean irony, mircea_popescu means race if the french bow stuff is racism :) [21:42]
pankkake The Fund will now be designated as NEOBEEQ to reflect the uncertainty of the future of LMB Holdings [21:42]
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kakobrekla q as questionable? [21:43]
ThickAsThieves i dont even... [21:43]
mircea_popescu why not D ? [21:43]
truffles heh apparently "race" might have french origins hmm [21:43]
pankkake just rename it to "SOMETHING" [21:43]
pankkake or "WHATEVER" [21:43]
ThickAsThieves or "GIVEUSTRADEFEES" [21:43]
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pankkake that migth explain the decision :( [21:44]
ThickAsThieves do they even lawyer? [21:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.60005 = 1.2001 BTC [-] {2} [21:44]
danielpbarron HeySteve: that's called racism [21:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 33 @ 0.0075 = 0.2475 BTC [+] [21:45]
mircea_popescu both anglosaxons and french claled themselves a "race" in the 18th-19th century [21:45]
mircea_popescu so i can hide behind that. [21:45]
truffles caucasian,mongoloid,negroid,australoid [21:45]
mircea_popescu so wait, you can now trade the suspended neobee symbol by trading neobeeq ? [21:47]
thestringpuller ... [21:47]
thestringpuller can havelock just implode already so i can win my bet... [21:47]
mike_c not for two hours. anticipation! [21:47]
pankkake cryptostocks is still running so… [21:48]
pankkake running scams doesn't seem to change much [21:48]
mircea_popescu is nefario on the advisory board of havelock or is stupidity just this copy/pasta by nature ? [21:48]
pankkake perhaps cryptostocks isn't as high profile [21:48]
mircea_popescu this is EXACTLY the goat suspension of 2012, by the book. [21:48]
mircea_popescu just as laughable, actually, benkay you may wanna do a side by side comparison. [21:48]
pankkake I like how the Q looks http://i.imgur.com/Mgixn0A.png [21:49]
mike_c and the goat suspension of 2014. cog is trading again too [21:51]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 601 @ 0.0075 = 4.5075 BTC [+] [21:52]
benkay goat suspension? [21:52]
benkay i didn't know he hung from hooks. [21:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 167 @ 0.06007661 = 10.0328 BTC [-] {8} [21:54]
mircea_popescu cog is nominally not goat's. [21:57]
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truffles gribble doesnt like assets [21:58]
truffles and other places nm [21:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 48.55606712 BTC to 80`674 shares, 60188 satoshi per share [21:59]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.038 = 0.114 BTC [+] [22:01]
benkay ;;google whet emotions [22:02]
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kanzure is there any rule 34 fan art of mozilla monster killing homos' [22:04]
nubbins` pankkake awww, sammy, you'd sing ?! under pressure ?! [22:04]
nubbins` but would it sound as good as freddie? pictures of your teeth plz [22:04]
thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe [22:04]
assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096053 BTC [-] [22:04]
pankkake replace pressure by alcohol and I will sing [22:04]
truffles happy drunk ftw [22:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.06085714 = 0.426 BTC [-] {3} [22:06]
truffles does a pankkake drink expensive alcohol? [22:07]
nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXOOwNS2qk0 [22:07]
ozbot QUEEN - Under Pressure (Live At Wembley Stadium 1986) - YouTube [22:07]
pankkake wikipedia deleted an article I wrote years ago, which passed the deletion test once… but that time it was quick and sneaky [22:07]
pankkake also deleted the MP ones [22:07]
pankkake -s [22:08]
pankkake delete all the things! [22:08]
asciilifeform and i had the honour of being publicly beheaded as a spammer there. [22:08]
pankkake truffles: I like belgian beer, not that expensive [22:08]
truffles meh beer sucks [22:08]
truffles what else [22:08]
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pankkake le rouge qui tache [22:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0591275 = 0.473 BTC [-] {3} [22:09]
truffles well that guy on the bottle.. [22:10]
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truffles nm alcohol what about cheese [22:11]
pankkake oh there's one actually called that. it's an expression [22:11]
pankkake I don't especially like cheese. I'm nota true French [22:11]
truffles i can see that [22:11]
truffles what does the expression mean then [22:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05805 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {2} [22:12]
truffles google says "red that stains" [22:12]
pankkake basic red wine [22:13]
truffles ok [22:13]
truffles whatever is presented eh [22:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0615 = 0.123 BTC [+] [22:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00096021 = 16.5636 BTC [-] {2} [22:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1857 @ 0.00007931 = 0.1473 BTC [-] {4} [22:15]
pankkake I have some preferences but hard to describe them. general preference to bitterness and high vicosity [22:15]
pankkake what about you? [22:15]
pankkake where is Vexual by the way? [22:16]
truffles sweet [22:16]
pankkake ;;seen Vexual [22:16]
gribble Vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, and 9 seconds ago: lasers in the eye is never good tat [22:16]
truffles or fruity [22:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.602 BTC [+] [22:16]
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benkay pankkake: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=81 [22:17]
truffles id like to go to macau! [22:18]
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truffles gambaler's paradise! [22:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0574998 = 0.1725 BTC [-] [22:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00096014 = 19.8749 BTC [-] {2} [22:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 34 @ 0.01899891 = 0.646 BTC [+] {2} [22:30]
pLambert got a mail from Havelock, re NEOBEE "Trading will resume today at 5:00 PM EST" [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00096304 = 26.291 BTC [+] {5} [22:31]
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pankkake but will they clear the order book? [22:33]
pLambert I think they already did clear out the order books, all my old orders are gone [22:33]
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ThickAsThieves pankkake, i assume that's partly why they changed the tickert [22:33]
mgio what do you predict the price will go to, say, in an hour? [22:33]
pLambert now it is NEOBEEQ, the q is for questionable [22:34]
mgio should be NEOBEE.Q [22:34]
ThickAsThieves ridiculousness [22:34]
pLambert I predict it will go down an order of magnitude [22:34]
ThickAsThieves make a bitbet, quick! [22:34]
pankkake hm probably, even bots would fail on it [22:34]
pLambert does bitbet let you make bets that quick? [22:34]
mgio like 0.00019? [22:34]
mgio its not even worth me selling anymore, sigh [22:35]
dexX7 fyi: ukyo's claim portal is open again.. i was able to get my 6 % [22:35]
benkay` neo be queer [22:35]
pLambert last was something like .0019, so yeah, something like that [22:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.06065 = 0.1213 BTC [+] {2} [22:36]
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ThickAsThieves i dunno, liquidity will be very thin, i wouldnt be surprised to see much lower [22:38]
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pLambert I bet it will be pretty wildly volatile [22:38]
Mats_cd03 huhuhu [22:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.0562674 = 1.9131 BTC [-] {8} [22:39]
pLambert or else it will just drop like a rock and stick at .000000001 [22:39]
pLambert hmm, I think that is one extra 0, but you get the idea [22:39]
mgio nah, i would buy it at that price lol [22:39]
pankkake or havelol will not be able to handle the load [22:40]
ThickAsThieves havelol, lol [22:40]
pLambert anybody want to bet on how soon after 5:00 Havelock goes ofline from the high load? [22:40]
ThickAsThieves good point though [22:40]
mgio if it dropped to 0.00005 or below, i'd it all up [22:40]
ThickAsThieves the site has gotten very boggy [22:40]
pankkake when cog started again it was quite slow [22:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 42 @ 0.01891708 = 0.7945 BTC [-] {3} [22:42]
kakobrekla huge volume according to surfer [22:42]
ThickAsThieves scamfer [22:47]
mike_c kakobrekla props. bitbet works amazingly well with javascript turned off. [22:49]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [22:49]
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kakobrekla :) [22:53]
mike_c pls stop setting the bar so high. [22:54]
kakobrekla lol [22:54]
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Namworld [11:53] literally, he will cripple himself before the first 10k is up [22:58]
Namworld common, that's a gross exaggeration. [22:59]
Namworld 10k isn't a lot [22:59]
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benkay` ;;lasers [23:03]
gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [23:03]
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Apocalyptic .d [23:08]
ozbot 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 115 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.5596% in 0d 14h 58m 37s [23:08]
Namworld Okay, admitedly, 80k in a short timespan would be impossible for an average, untrained person. [23:08]
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Namworld But the average human can certainly sustain more than 10k before running out of energy. [23:09]
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nubbins` Namworld, i'm not talking about running out of energy [23:11]
nubbins` i'm talking about injuring himself :D [23:11]
Namworld Injuring himself how? [23:11]
nubbins` go pick someone out of a crowd and tell them to run 10k, then ask them how their legs and feet feel afterward [23:11]
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Namworld Tired? Not injured? [23:12]
nubbins` heh [23:13]
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nubbins` well why don't you just take ALL the wind outta my sails [23:13]
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nubbins` either way, we can both agree that doing a double marathon cold is an incredibly stupid idea [23:14]
Namworld I give him 20-40k in with slowing down/breaks by the time it ends. [23:14]
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nubbins` that's generous! [23:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00096609 = 23.1862 BTC [+] {2} [23:16]
mike_c how long? 12, 13 hours? [23:16]
Namworld idk, I could randomly go and walk 8-10k at a fast pace when I was a kid. About 15 min per kilometer. Except that time at the end of the school year. Year was officially over but everyone was hanging around waiting for buses. I packed all my locker in my bag and just left on foot. Walked 10 kilometers on foot in like 30C temp on a sunny afternoon and stopped at the library about 1k before [23:17]
Namworld home to drink and read and cool of with the AC.. [23:17]
Namworld Now that time my legs felt dead and I was walking at a crawl by the end. [23:17]
Namworld But I had my bag stretched from carrying all my books at once. [23:17]
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Namworld That guy says he goes to the gym unregularly and he's in uni it seems? I'm really not sporty on the other end. [23:18]
Namworld He's young and probably taller and in better shape than me in mid highschool. [23:19]
thestringpuller damn Namworld that is gangsta [23:19]
Namworld 20-40k isn't generous. [23:19]
Namworld I feel it's fair [23:19]
thestringpuller how much did the stuff weigh that was in your locker? [23:19]
thestringpuller just books and stuff? [23:19]
Namworld Humans are literally built for endurance. [23:19]
Namworld Eh, not sure. A few large manuals, binders of notes, etc. It wasn't a full locker, I think I had emptied some of it another day. The whole wouldn't have fitted in the bag. [23:20]
Namworld But you know, a schoolbag fitted with so much you have to hammer the last books in and it looks like a stretched block afterward. [23:21]
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nubbins` he can't walk 40k [23:22]
nubbins` he'd be out there for like 10 hours [23:22]
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nubbins` http://www.coindesk.com/canadian-government-end-mintchip-digital-currency-program/ [23:24]
Namworld I didn't say he'd walk them. Although he'd probably wouldn't be able to run very fast either. [23:24]
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nubbins` https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=NEOBEEQ [23:25]
Namworld I mean by the time the whole event is over he'd be maybe 25-50% of the way through? [23:25]
nubbins` my guess is no more than 25% [23:25]
nubbins` which is still a half marathon [23:25]
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nubbins` my sides @ neobeeq [23:26]
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mike_c 30 minutes to the opening bell [23:27]
Namworld If I could walk 10km with a large charge on my back in ~3hours I'm sure someone in uni can sprint 20-40k during the event. How long does it even last? [23:27]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla props. bitbet works amazingly well with javascript turned off. << javascript can be turned on ?~ [23:27]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [23:27]
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Namworld At a bare minimum, 20k. 40k is really an upper bound depending on how much his "occasional" means for going to the gym. [23:28]
mike_c mircea_popescu: aw, i know you use JS. you've been on my site :) [23:29]
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mircea_popescu mike_c sooo ? [23:31]
mike_c i didn't think you could post a comment without JS on mine, but looks like you can. nevermind, your reputation is secure. [23:32]
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nubbins` "var should be enough for anybody" [23:33]
mircea_popescu your local antitrust authority has been notified about your commercial attack practices. [23:33]
mircea_popescu expect to be extradited to romania. [23:33]
nubbins` http://www.npr.org/2014/01/13/262175399/is-16-and-pregnant-an-effective-form-of-birth-control [23:34]
ozbot Is '16 And Pregnant' An Effective Form Of Birth Control? : NPR [23:34]
nubbins` lel [23:34]
BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557436.msg6073507#msg6073507 [23:34]
ozbot Hey Bigbitz - this is for you. [23:34]
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nubbins` "You can go fuck yourself for the 2 BTC gift you gave me" [23:36]
grahvity|desktop neobee trading resumes this afternoon https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=NEOBEEQ [23:36]
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mircea_popescu grahvity|desktop check the logs eh ? [23:36]
grahvity|desktop didn't know whether I was being helpful or not [23:37]
mircea_popescu that's why you check the logs :) [23:37]
grahvity|desktop mobile [23:37]
jurov making a zombie from it...quite original solution [23:37]
grahvity|desktop :/ [23:37]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/canadian-government-end-mintchip-digital-currency-program/ [23:37]
mircea_popescu mp petitions bingo to switch to .lk links [23:37]
nubbins` grahvity|desktop: your mobile doesn't have a web browser? :0 [23:38]
moiety mew all :) just catching up [23:38]
nubbins` ThickAsThieves: check the logs eh? [23:38]
grahvity|desktop using an app [23:38]
mircea_popescu nubbins` :D [23:39]
ThickAsThieves shit! [23:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0614 = 0.1228 BTC [+] [23:39]
nubbins` ;D [23:39]
grahvity|desktop cheers, guys [23:39]
nubbins` BOTH OF YA [23:39]
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BingoBoingo Petition acknowledged [23:39]
mircea_popescu "Then we came across a quote by [CEO] Sarah Brown at the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy and she speculated that this show was having an effect." [23:40]
mircea_popescu how the fuck do they reason to come to the conclusion preventing teen pregnancy is a worthwhile thing to do [23:41]
nubbins` "then we watched the show and it was many say so she is right" [23:41]
moiety BingoBoingo: ty!! i have new desktopmanul nao :D [23:41]
nubbins` *many sad [23:41]
BingoBoingo moiety: Ur welcome [23:41]
jurov inb4 manulcoin [23:41]
moiety lol micrea, that was a pekinese... much uglier than my manuls [23:41]
moiety mircea_popescu* [23:41]
nubbins` it's actually spelled marsellus [23:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.60849999 = 1.217 BTC [+] {2} [23:42]
mircea_popescu marsellus goldstein whateveritwas [23:42]
pankkake what about miscrea [23:42]
nubbins` hmm [23:43]
moiety BingoBoingo: i think i have found a good domain [23:43]
BingoBoingo oh [23:43]
moiety ach weesht im spelling everything backwards today :D [23:43]
moiety BingoBoingo: felin.ae (i can add pampas cats this way) [23:43]
nubbins` ;;google .ae tld [23:44]
gribble .ae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; IANA — .ae Domain Delegation Data: ; ae Domains - International Domain Registration: [23:44]
moiety manul speak would just be "fuck you" [23:44]
nubbins` ah, UAE [23:44]
moiety yarp [23:44]
pankkake I want .æ! [23:45]
moiety some twat has all the manul.pallas cat domains and hasnt done anything with them for years [23:45]
nubbins` pankkake XD [23:45]
moiety pankkake: they are really cheap [23:45]
nubbins` where the fuck do all the rulers keep disappearing to around here?! [23:45]
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Luke-Jr danielpbarron: no, Catholicism is the only true religion [23:46]
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danielpbarron Luke-Jr: http://www.atruechurch.info/catholicism.html [23:46]
nubbins` ah, my sides. [23:46]
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mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/e6dc76047ffec4f107c5d9e99de80c14/tumblr_ml1px0eVbl1sn68hmo1_1280.jpg [23:46]
nubbins` THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION [23:46]
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nubbins` "using a 5lb sledge is the only true way to smash your dick" [23:47]
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Luke-Jr danielpbarron: this page is of the devil, full of lies [23:48]
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Luke-Jr danielpbarron: shall I go through it lie by lie? [23:49]
danielpbarron yes, please [23:50]
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Luke-Jr On the inside dust jacket of Pope John Paul's book, Crossing The Threshold Of Hope (copyright 1994, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York), the Pope's message is, "Be not afraid!" <-- there was never any "Pope John Paul" in the Catholic Church [23:50]
Luke-Jr the Catholic is nonetheless following a "stranger" (i.e. Catholicism) and not Christ <-- Catholicism is Christ [23:51]
Luke-Jr Roman Catholicism is a false religion with deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1-3), a false gospel, a false Jesus, idolatry, and damning lies. <-- false [23:51]
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thestringpuller oh it's Luke-Jr have you been on holiday? :P [23:51]
danielpbarron Luke-Jr: http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Threshold-Hope-Pope-John/dp/0679765611 [23:52]
mike_c paging cmyers for a three way deathmatch [23:52]
Luke-Jr In this text that describes those who have departed from the faith and given heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, there are only two teachings given ("forbidding to marry" and "to abstain from foods") by which to identify the ones to whom this text applies. The Roman Catholic Church practices both identifying marks. <-- these two evils are named because they were already being taught by heretical sects; but they do not mean [23:52]
Luke-Jr what this webpage wants you to beleive they mean [23:52]
Luke-Jr the heretical sects Timothy was writing about, forbade marriage *completely*, etc [23:53]
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danielpbarron Luke-Jr: "Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith" <-- written in future tense as in something that hadn't happened yet [23:53]
Luke-Jr In the official Catechism of the Catholic Church (Libreria Editrice Vaticana, copyright 1994, Ignatius Press, San Francisco, CA) on page 395 under #1580, speaking in the context of "priests" it states: <-- 1) there is no such approved catechism; 2) note the *context of priests* [23:53]
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Luke-Jr danielpbarron: He speaks of the Gnostics, the Marcionites, the Eneratites, the Manicheans, and other ancient heretics, who absolutely condemned marriage, and the use of all kind of meat; because they pretended that all flesh was from an evil principle. Whereas the church of God, so far from condemning marriage, holds it a holy sacrament; and forbids it to none but such as by vow have chosen the better part: and prohibits not the use of any [23:55]
Luke-Jr meats whatsoever in proper times and seasons; though she does not judge all kind of diet proper for days of fasting and penance. [23:55]
Luke-Jr danielpbarron: furthermore, the Church's laws about abstinence from meat on certain days, goes back to the Apostles; they were already in place and Timothy practiced them himself [23:57]
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Luke-Jr obviously he was not condemning the Church he was a bishop of [23:57]
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danielpbarron penance 1. voluntary self-punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for having done wrong. 2. a Christian sacrament in which a member of the Church confesses sins to a priest and is given absolution. [23:57]
Luke-Jr They deem Muslims as having salvation <-- this is not true [23:57]
Duffer1 uh [23:58]
mike_c plus Jesus himself explicitly founded the catholic church with Peter as pope, so there's that. [23:58]
Duffer1 lmao [23:58]
danielpbarron absolution: 1. formal release from guilt, obligation, or punishment. [23:58]
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Luke-Jr Scripture nowhere teaches any such sacraments necessary for salvation. <-- Scripture does not teach; Christ appointed the Church to do that. Furthermore, Scripture *does* record Christ Himself mandating Baptism. [23:59]
moiety i thought gay people were forbidden to marry [23:59]
mike_c i'm waiting for one of you to forget to capitalize a name or pronoun here and go straight to hell. [23:59]
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