Forum logs for 30 Aug 2018

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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aite, I'll add beach running to the routine. [07:31]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what did the chix do to BingoBoingo !... when i saw him, was pure muscle, like wolf << Remember the Cheese Fascination that hit you here. Well, when I got fridge+kitchen curosity at the grocery store got the best of me. It turns out there are many different kinds of Dulce de Leche (the cremoso is bullshit) [07:38]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-22-aug-2018#2467592 << i've not even checked this, because seems http://logs.minigame.biz/latest.log.html died on the 27th ? [09:08]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 22:45 lobbes: psa: looks like my box that houses the archive-o-matic went offline on Friday. It back up and eating through backlog www should update sometime in the next ~ 2 hours >> http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view_domains.php [09:08]
mircea_popescu: !!seen lobbes [09:08]
deedbot: 2018/08/29 04:34:03 <lobbes> mod6: ack [09:08]
mircea_popescu: get back to me, will ye ? what happened here ? [09:09]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: loads here [09:12]
mircea_popescu: does it load the log for today or the log for the 27th ? [09:12]
asciilifeform: aaaaa [09:13]
asciilifeform: nm [09:13]
mircea_popescu: right. [09:13]
mircea_popescu: and speaking of this, let's try an' resync with ben_vulpes also. after http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831355 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-25#1837688 haven't heard much. is this different from "i've found myself obscure rural church, much better republic for my needs than the genuine article" and if so, how ? [09:18]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 18:05 ben_vulpes: lords and ladies, june pizarro statement will be late my wife is experiencing an all-consuming major depression that will take all of my attention going forward. i am working with mod6 and asciilifeform to ensure continuity at pizarro. [09:18]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-25 03:30 ben_vulpes: in unrelated http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656658 , ben_vulpes moving to texas to whip trinque's oarsmen, re-plumb engineroom, stand watch over gauges [09:18]
mircea_popescu: what are you working on, these days ? why do i have to ask this ? etc. [09:18]
mircea_popescu: an' finally, to be explicit rather than implicit : dear mats, while it's perfectly fine to be working with whichever lord you prefer to be working, if you don't enjoy working with me, but the place for that is in the respective castle. [09:21]
mircea_popescu: if i end up negrating you because i have nfi what you're doing, it's not strictly "mp is a meanie head" it can very well also be "i'm fucking terrible at communicating my position, end up run over by heavy machinery". [09:21]
mircea_popescu: the overarching point being that neither #trilema nor tmsr is a sort of dilbert-larping-zone, here for the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845588 "salaried zek" element to gather after hours, smoke, and predictably if circularly discuss how-stupid-everyone-but-us-is. [09:22]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 17:52 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845577 << usg.mortgage is a device for separating salaried zeks (engineers, law, etc) from their 'excess' fat. not for millenial pauper to borrow against... what, exactly. (maybe organs?) [09:22]
mircea_popescu: (for the curious : there's also a dilbert-for-women, there to make usg.womanhood palatable in the sense dilbert makes usg.corporatelife palatable. i suspect it might be a lot better illustration of wtf's wrong with "impotent cvasi-opposition" for boys, as they're not similarily conditioned and so lacking the pivots might even understand the workings of THAT hidden hand) [09:43]
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy [09:44]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845796 << plox to see log >> http://logs.bvulpes.com/eulora?d=2018-8-28#419866 [10:32]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 13:09 mircea_popescu: get back to me, will ye ? what happened here ? [10:32]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-28 14:02 lobbes: update: logz back up (but not updating with new lines) >> http://logs.minigame.biz/ [10:32]
lobbes: I am close (hopefully by end of this weekend) to finishing the genesis for the 'logbot-command-router' (see also #t log) After which I will be migrating the #eulora logotron residing on heathen Edis vps to Pizarro shared hosting [10:32]
lobbes: The reason I am migrating, is contained in this thread >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845073 [10:34]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-28 00:57 lobbes: my vps on edis which housed my old znc has been mysteriously unreachable for 12 hours. Of course, cannot easily get in contact with them [10:34]
lobbes: Summary of the above threads: Edis vps finally got back to me after ~16hrs downtime with lame excuse of "we had some issues we never communicated. We identified the issue tho. Sry for inconvenience". I said "fuck em'" and will be moving logs to pizarro once done with current $unrelated-item [10:58]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/path-to-intel-management-engine-jtag-discovered/ << Qntra - Path To Intel Management Engine JTAG Discovered [11:55]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2018/08/path-to-intel-management-engine-jtag-discovered/#comment-118071 [12:44]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2018/08/path-to-intel-management-engine-jtag-discovered/#comment-118072 [12:45]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845810 << fwiw i saw it in newspaper in '90s, thing never made any sense [12:46]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 13:43 mircea_popescu: (for the curious : there's also a dilbert-for-women, there to make usg.womanhood palatable in the sense dilbert makes usg.corporatelife palatable. i suspect it might be a lot better illustration of wtf's wrong with "impotent cvasi-opposition" for boys, as they're not similarily conditioned and so lacking the pivots might even understand the workings of THAT hidden hand) [12:46]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the inane shit occupying my time instead of republican efforts is embarrassingly trivial, but since you ask: i'm moving to texas, and so now must wrap fence that was supposed to be a two-season relaxed affair by mid september throw out a decade+ of crap that i shouldn't have been so lax as to let stick around in the first place, pack my whole existence into transpocubes, get it moved to the [13:24]
ben_vulpes: new destination, clean + lease the illiquid asset, and then set up shop in the new area [13:24]
ben_vulpes: days are mostly wake -> grind out food credits -> grind out more holes in ground -> sink posts -> fabricate and erect cladding -> sleep, with the occasional beer [13:26]
ben_vulpes: tenative schedule is to have current domus released by end of october and new digs established ~same time. [13:28]
ben_vulpes: i remain available and actively supporting mod6 and BingoBoingo when they need something from me on the pizarro front [13:31]
mircea_popescu: lobbes well so wait, working log delayed until (close, hopefully) completing bot rewrite ? [14:11]
mircea_popescu: this is a terrible arrangmeent, recall the onset of the (meanwhile, botched) pizarro wire/auction was a month ago, and waited for the same thing ? [14:11]
hanbot: meh. installing znc on piz's shared box was a breeze, but actually getting the thing to connect to irc turns out to be a royal pain in the ass. [14:16]
mircea_popescu: "<AlwaysHigh11> Ꮃⅰtһ оᥙr ІᖇᏟ ɑⅾ ѕᥱrⅴⅰⅽᥱ уo∪ саᥒ rеaϲһ a gⅼоbaⅼ audⅰᥱᥒϲᥱ ⲟf ᥱntrеⲣrеᥒе∪rѕ and fеntaᥒуⅼ ɑⅾⅾⅰctѕ witһ ᥱxtrɑοrdіnаrỿ еngaɡeⅿᥱnt rateѕⵑ httⲣs፡᜵/wⅰⅼlіɑmpіtсⲟⅽk.сοⅿ/" << meanwhile in dilbertism, the spamming moron club DIDN'T http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14 [14:16]
mircea_popescu: #1841508 because "that's hard" right, and instead fucking about with unicode to destroy the usual imperial http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491698 approach. [14:16]
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 23:46 mircea_popescu: ethereum being "smart", it's not just mempool, but also cpupool. and the "soft fork" being essentially a "enumerate badness" attempt, you still gotta check and make sure tx isn't on the verboten list. which computation you do for free, because you believe in mit, socialism and buterin. [14:16]
mircea_popescu: because this is what the shit even exists FOR getting everyone to be a moron, only some with a positive and some with a negative inca outline is perfectly fine "getting everyone to be a moron" outcome, as far as inca's concerned. [14:17]
mircea_popescu: wut do ? wut do ? http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/ specifically : for as long as every moron thinks he can make his own decisions, ugs's the necessary end result. [14:18]
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14#1841508 ^unclipped [14:19]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 20:30 mircea_popescu: breifly back to phf 's discussion of r+ thing : i confess i mostly did it to encourage the "spammer" to put registration in. sadly... went instead the way of http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-08-13.log.html#t22:59:16 [14:19]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [14:19]
mircea_popescu: ah ah [14:20]
mircea_popescu: ty! [14:20]
Mocky: np [14:20]
hanbot: and by "getting the thing to connect to irc" above i ofc mean to connect to freenode. [14:21]
mircea_popescu: hanbot i've yet to meet someone who had to connect to freenode and liked it. [14:21]
hanbot: heh [14:22]
Mocky: hanbot, i [14:22]
mircea_popescu: me jane ? [14:22]
Mocky: ve been thinking of setting up bouncer sincy my connection's been so iffy past week [14:22]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the odds are getting pretty good the "spammer"'s actually our good friends at http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-26#1844799 [14:24]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-26 16:43 mircea_popescu: https://softserve.8ch.net/static/stim/c6feb79297b74e138bead1118e8afd13.png << meanwhile in lulz. [14:24]
mircea_popescu: because really, who besides usg tryna fuck up irc has any interest in collecting emails to use it ? [14:24]
hanbot: Mocky naturally if/when i figure the shit out i'll make a blogpost [14:24]
mircea_popescu: precisely in the vein of "the usual imperial approach", "get emails!!!!" is on some 3 ring binder at ft meade or something, by how fixated they are. [14:25]
mircea_popescu: WOOT! 29mn pop while i was bitching here! thanks god and Mocky 's bot! [14:25]
hanbot: congrats. ...bn? [14:26]
Mocky: grats on the tubers lol [14:26]
hanbot: oh nice. [14:26]
mircea_popescu: pretty sveet! [14:26]
mircea_popescu: they weigh... 310tons. [14:30]
mircea_popescu: and they're gonna make such a pile of gin... [14:31]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845829 << -not- entire rewrite of auctionbot, but the smaller foundational item it will sit on >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-25#1844391 [14:32]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:11 mircea_popescu: lobbes well so wait, working log delayed until (close, hopefully) completing bot rewrite ? [14:32]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-25 03:09 lobbes: in fact, was going to announce: I'm getting closer to finishing what will be a genesis for a 'logbot-command-router' in python that does the talking and listening with postgres (an older but relevant thread for context: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-29#1531123) [14:32]
lobbes: And really, I misspoke. Not completely $unrelated_item because I am going to use said item to also build the new #eulora logotron off of (existing logotron is fed from ZNC, which I'd like to remove from the equation entirely) [14:33]
mircea_popescu: ok, but the one missing item is the eta. [14:33]
lobbes: Still, I see what you mean. Was dumb of me to leave the 'legacy' logs dead in the water while folx wait for 'new and improved' logs. I'll work to get the legacy logs back to updating tonight. [14:33]
mircea_popescu: that'd be nice. [14:33]
lobbes: And if tonight doesnt happen for whatevereason, I'll give proper eta [14:34]
mircea_popescu: alright. there's nothing wrong with "well... item i was working to rewrite for the past x weeks and was going to have done in 1-3 more weeks decided to critically crap out today my choice is either to be down for the remainder 1-3 weeks or else to duplicate/waste an estimate of y hours of work to get the old shiot back up hopefully by z. god damn." [14:35]
mircea_popescu: in fact, there's everything right with it : both communicates reality and provides hooks for the rest to help. [14:35]
mircea_popescu: (i suspect, incidentally, that the above template is the #1 bane of republican effort in the years to come, chiefly because the #1 impedance mismatch we encounter is between uptime and rewrite, a manifestation of the old design-reality diphoria.) [14:37]
mircea_popescu: dysphoria* [14:39]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845822 << you weren't in the demo. [14:40]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 16:46 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845810 << fwiw i saw it in newspaper in '90s, thing never made any sense [14:40]
mircea_popescu: kinda how the ideal failure mode of usg mind hooks goes : it's effectual for the intended target and meaningless for the rest. monsanto idealia. [14:41]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845827 << well... april's a long way past october, so there is that. [14:44]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 17:28 ben_vulpes: tenative schedule is to have current domus released by end of october and new digs established ~same time. [14:44]
mircea_popescu: but anyway, dun sound like much fun, i hope you're at least making some dough out of all this. [14:44]
ben_vulpes: a bit, yeah. i've also lived in the same libtard shithole for nigh on three decades at this point far past time to meet the rest of america. [14:48]
* mircea_popescu is quite curious if this transparent trinque plan at starting a genuine fortress goes anywhere. [14:48]
ben_vulpes: im also evaluating this claim that the lone star state is somehow not the same thin plastic veneer over zamac the rest of the country's made of. it at least has endogenous oil stores and the locals carry a reputation for being profit minded [14:50]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes my first experience of texas was waking up in a small town which was having a ceremony that morning [14:51]
mircea_popescu: whereby the mayor was awarding whatever cert to an 80yo lady who, while the diner where she was eating was being robbed at gunpoint, [14:52]
mircea_popescu: pulled out an immense colt from her old lady purse and blew the kid's head all over the store. [14:52]
ben_vulpes: is this why you're always going on about san antonio? [14:52]
mircea_popescu: no, san antonio was next day. [14:53]
mircea_popescu: texas is surprisingly large for how large it is. [14:53]
ben_vulpes: pretty grade a story, am looking forward to meeting different americans [14:53]
mircea_popescu: san antonio was you know, proper champagne for breakfast on the riverwalk and things. [14:53]
ben_vulpes: north of california, west of the rockies the humanpaste is ~entirely undifferentiated, curious to see if this holds for louisiana, tx, fl. [14:54]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in valuable crossposts, http://logs.bvulpes.com/eulora?d=2018-8-30#420740 [14:55]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-30 15:17 Mocky: as an aside, I discovered the rationale behind the need for CS threading library, and boost for that matter. i.e. that incoherent c++ memory model prevented reliable semantics for multi-threaded access beore c++11, so they rolled their own and in the process had to also roll compatible data structures [14:55]
ben_vulpes: and should it suck, well, i've at least snipped the girl's attachment to the easy comfortable lifestyle of the pacnw [14:56]
mircea_popescu: should it suck, you wanna try fortressing uruguay or hk/taiwan ? [14:57]
BingoBoingo: I hear good things about Santiago, Chile [14:59]
ben_vulpes: uruguay or sa most likely while marseilles sounds lovely and i vastly prefer french to spanish it is unfortunately in france and so also the eu for the forseeable future. pretty fed up with not living near major airport hubs access to surf also a criteria for expatquest [15:00]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i believe there's costs to sending people alone, esp if the idea is they'll be forever alone. seems to me either strengthen outposts or start new ones ~very far away~. otherwise, you know what gerrimandering is ? [15:00]
mircea_popescu: we dun wanna gerrymander ourselves into oblivion. [15:01]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, this is true [15:03]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes france is not nearly as much "in the eu" as you think, especially the occitan portion. morever, europe is tiny, vienna is a short drive away, the vienna of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842767 and then hungary and serbia and so on. [15:04]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 17:21 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/austria-raided-rogue-intelligence-agency-in-february/ << Qntra - Austria Raided Rogue Intelligence Agency In February [15:04]
mircea_popescu: moreover, housing much better and much cheaper than anywhere in the world, local transportation that actually works (srsly, two digit airfare across the continent sorta deals). [15:04]
mircea_popescu: if you've never lived in yurp it's not really something to pass on. [15:04]
ben_vulpes: huh cool! [15:05]
ben_vulpes: i'd written europe off largely on the basis of 'natoreich', but if there are habitable holes i'd rather live in stone than plastic [15:08]
mircea_popescu: well, "short drive". 800 or so miles, which to me still counts as "one day drive". as opposed to say 2.2k miles portland-austin. [15:08]
mircea_popescu: anyway, airfare actualy starts at 99. [15:08]
mircea_popescu: but the deep reasdon europe is tiny is because there's ~no wilderness, everything's built up, you can walk from town to town in less than a day without exception (this is not coincidental, either, but deliberate, civilisational checkmark at a time before train was "from church to church in one day", and applied as such on us east coast for instance). there's roads everywhere, they're reasonably good (certainly better than neg [15:10]
mircea_popescu: lected us infrastructure) and so on. [15:10]
diana_coman: except the Morandi bridge and possibly more of Italy from what I hear [15:11]
mircea_popescu: southern portions of italy were always dubiously in europe. but ye olde french, austrian an' german empires still work admirably well in this base sense. [15:11]
diana_coman: true [15:12]
mircea_popescu: whoa, it actually collapsed ?! [15:12]
mircea_popescu: jaysus. [15:12]
diana_coman: yes and ftr genoa is not even really southern [15:13]
mircea_popescu: ikr ? i... actually drove over that thing. [15:14]
diana_coman: I certainly went by car over it more than one time but years ago so... [15:14]
mircea_popescu: nuts. apparently it was a very shitty bridge, though i don't recall this being known/discussed at the time. [15:15]
mircea_popescu: the time being 90s. [15:15]
diana_coman: well, in italy discussion of everything that is shitty will never end so... [15:17]
diana_coman: there was some museum exhibit along the lines of why is italy shaped like a boot? because so much shit would never fit in a shoe [15:17]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845884 << this is a beautiful anecdote [15:19]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:52 mircea_popescu: pulled out an immense colt from her old lady purse and blew the kid's head all over the store. [15:19]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman lmao! they have a point [15:19]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845880 << it may just end up an orbital refueling station, but that'd be fine by me [15:19]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:48 mircea_popescu is quite curious if this transparent trinque plan at starting a genuine fortress goes anywhere. [15:19]
mircea_popescu: trinque pretty sure i told it before but let me see if i can fish any texas stories from trilema. [15:19]
trinque: yep I recall it before in here [15:20]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2009/protectia-sociala-un-comportament-antisocial/#selection-47.0-47.32 << if only we had a de-pdf-er, i could link that supreme court of texas item. [15:23]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/povestea-soparlei/#selection-197.0-201.480 << original (2010) notation of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706588 story [15:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 20:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to illustrate the "10`001" species, did i ever recount the time my toilet was clogged... by an aligator ? [15:25]
mircea_popescu: including a very wtf'd me at encountering gecko (which has no scales, but plain skin) [15:25]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/servicii-de-taximetrie/#selection-53.35-57.49 << me being very impressed with san antonio taxi service (i used to own a taxicab fleet, and im the curious and inquisitve fellow you all know and occasionally love, so it's not exactly amateur hour). [15:27]
mircea_popescu: aaand ye olde story of busride, http://trilema.com/2011/are-you-a-muslim/#selection-51.0-55.347 (though it says virginia, but im pretty sure it was actually southerner than that, retrospectively). [15:29]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/radio-vocea-americii/#selection-25.0-33.296 << back when texas made it illegal "to touch private parts of a person as a precondition to transportation or access in a public place". 138-0. [15:30]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/vindem-casa-fara-utilitati/#selection-51.0-51.121 << ancient map of houston, in article discussing how bucharest real estate idiots suck. [15:32]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/amintiri-din-texas-partea-cu-poze/ << literally, "remembrances of texas, the pictures section" [15:33]
mircea_popescu: and here's a special offering for the rotaku club president, one alf : http://trilema.com/2011/cea-mai-faina-chestie-la-romania/#selection-55.0-59.608 [15:38]
* trinque will have going through these in just a bit, gotta afk for a while [15:39]
trinque: *fun [15:39]
mircea_popescu: (o and btw, that trilema header of a very young me lounging in a white suit on a bench outdoors, is very much on san antonio riverwalk, cca 2005) [15:43]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/dau-o-suta-de-lei/ << lulzy check where ro kids couldn't guess the identity of a folgers' coffee can [15:44]
ben_vulpes: all of the pics redirect to random trilemaz [15:45]
mircea_popescu: and that'd be it for now. [15:45]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you click them ? yeah, at the time trilema had a "premium" feature, you had to pay to get full size pics [15:45]
mircea_popescu: quit doing it but never bothered to undo the old ones... [15:45]
mircea_popescu: i suppose i shoulf fix this huh! [15:46]
mircea_popescu: brb. [15:46]
ben_vulpes: i recall this [15:47]
ben_vulpes: is associated in my head with a post i recall as "river of sluts", which i'm sure has an actual title. [15:50]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes try now ? [16:02]
mircea_popescu: lol river of sluts. [16:02]
mircea_popescu: hey nicoleci here's something for your burning interest re "ye olde pr0n days", courtesy of the fellow engineers in #trilema, cuz if he'd never have asked i'd prolly never have released them : http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/ [16:03]
ben_vulpes: works now [16:03]
mircea_popescu: and ftr they're not sluts, they're just normal adolescent girls. FROM EUROPE [16:03]
mircea_popescu: which is a nice place for a good reason. this being the reason. [16:04]
ben_vulpes: ah teh barge [16:05]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in reminescences, http://trilema.com/paid-content/2012/timisoara-si-zapada-1.jpg http://trilema.com/paid-content/2012/timisoara-si-zapada-13.jpg HOLYSHIT SNOW [16:06]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/fotodocument-ninsoarea-continua/ << sauce. [16:07]
lobbes: http://trilema.com/2010/dau-o-suta-de-lei/ << "Lowell, Mass, 2005" still weird to think that mp was at one point ~1.5hrs away from 17 y/o lobbes (who, at the time, was probably busy picking nose and "making flash websites"). Ah wasted youth [16:07]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/paid-content/2010/graffiti_cr1.jpg << and from back when i was gay... [16:08]
mircea_popescu: lobbes nuts huh! [16:08]
mircea_popescu: but, in fairness, mp of 15 years ago was also somewhat different beast. [16:09]
mircea_popescu: and an item speshul for mocky's recent : http://trilema.com/2011/va-plac-masinile/#selection-61.59-61.68 [16:11]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2009/politica-pe-inteles/ << and the final bit in this lengthy enumeration, 2009 piece on politics saying... ~same things. except "Pana cand internetul va ajunge la nivelul de dezvoltare tehnologica care sa permita in sfarsit renuntarea definitiva la sistemul reprezentativ, " (aka, "until the internet will reach the level of development that'll allow the permanent dropping of the representative system") mea [16:38]
mircea_popescu: nwhile covered by http://trilema.com/2018/how-things-have-changed/ [16:38]
Mocky: mircea_popescu, was there an ro trilema piece about games of either balance or catch? iirc i couldn't make heads or tail of the auto translation some months ago [17:36]
ben_vulpes: Mocky: "reach and balance"? [17:37]
ben_vulpes: "fucking, a guide" [17:37]
mircea_popescu: haha, yeah. [18:16]
mircea_popescu: apparently, one of the more famous pieces. [18:16]
diana_coman: none of the links on bimbo.club work for me -> I can't leave a comment [19:00]
mircea_popescu: sounds like she fixed it alright [19:10]
* asciilifeform back from sea , to console [19:52]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845824 << this is puzzling, why build fence around ~old~ house [19:53]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 17:24 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the inane shit occupying my time instead of republican efforts is embarrassingly trivial, but since you ask: i'm moving to texas, and so now must wrap fence that was supposed to be a two-season relaxed affair by mid september throw out a decade+ of crap that i shouldn't have been so lax as to let stick around in the first place, pack my whole existence into transpocubes, get it moved to the [19:53]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845832 << gotta luvvv how uniturd gives , what , 17 different glyph-~identical 'letter a', simply so that this can exist [19:54]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:16 mircea_popescu: "<AlwaysHigh11> Ꮃⅰtһ оᥙr ІᖇᏟ ɑⅾ ѕᥱrⅴⅰⅽᥱ уo∪ саᥒ rеaϲһ a gⅼоbaⅼ audⅰᥱᥒϲᥱ ⲟf ᥱntrеⲣrеᥒе∪rѕ and fеntaᥒуⅼ ɑⅾⅾⅰctѕ witһ ᥱxtrɑοrdіnаrỿ еngaɡeⅿᥱnt rateѕⵑ httⲣs፡᜵/wⅰⅼlіɑmpіtсⲟⅽk.сοⅿ/" << meanwhile in dilbertism, the spamming moron club DIDN'T http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14 [19:54]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845843 << iirc 100% of the remaining fleanode boxen insist on the ssl liquishit [19:55]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:21 hanbot: and by "getting the thing to connect to irc" above i ofc mean to connect to freenode. [19:55]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845869 << i solved this by biting the bullet and actually baking a desk clone of phuctor [19:58]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:35 mircea_popescu: alright. there's nothing wrong with "well... item i was working to rewrite for the past x weeks and was going to have done in 1-3 more weeks decided to critically crap out today my choice is either to be down for the remainder 1-3 weeks or else to duplicate/waste an estimate of y hours of work to get the old shiot back up hopefully by z. god damn." [19:58]
asciilifeform: 'staging box' for newstuff [19:58]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845879 << somehow i thought ben_vulpes was originally from nyc..? [19:58]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:48 ben_vulpes: a bit, yeah. i've also lived in the same libtard shithole for nigh on three decades at this point far past time to meet the rest of america. [19:58]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845908 << belarusia still has the primeval forest -- a+++ partizan terrain [20:01]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:10 mircea_popescu: but the deep reasdon europe is tiny is because there's ~no wilderness, everything's built up, you can walk from town to town in less than a day without exception (this is not coincidental, either, but deliberate, civilisational checkmark at a time before train was "from church to church in one day", and applied as such on us east coast for instance). there's roads everywhere, they're reasonably good (certainly better than neg [20:01]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845918 << догоним и перегоним америку (tm)(r) [20:01]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:15 mircea_popescu: nuts. apparently it was a very shitty bridge, though i don't recall this being known/discussed at the time. [20:01]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845890 << florida is a shithole born of the dreams of new england mediocre, and populated by the offspring of bartenders and strippers. [20:02]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:54 ben_vulpes: north of california, west of the rockies the humanpaste is ~entirely undifferentiated, curious to see if this holds for louisiana, tx, fl. [20:02]
trinque: "nawlens" might be worth a peek, pockets of authentic weird still lurking about. [20:03]
asciilifeform: trinque: i thought it had drowned? [20:03]
trinque: eh they're used to it [20:04]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845958 << oh hah the mega-plaza. they repainted the old habsburg houses there, btw, not long ago, just as i was there [20:08]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 20:06 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in reminescences, http://trilema.com/paid-content/2012/timisoara-si-zapada-1.jpg http://trilema.com/paid-content/2012/timisoara-si-zapada-13.jpg HOLYSHIT SNOW [20:08]
asciilifeform: they're a bright blue nao [20:08]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845938 << this supposed untranslatability of ro, is illusory imho, translates just fine to ru and prolly other civilized tongues [20:18]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:38 mircea_popescu: and here's a special offering for the rotaku club president, one alf : http://trilema.com/2011/cea-mai-faina-chestie-la-romania/#selection-55.0-59.608 [20:18]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845959 << funnily enuff, i think i recognize all of the backgrounds.. [20:20]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 20:07 mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/fotodocument-ninsoarea-continua/ << sauce. [20:20]
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/eulora?d=2018-8-30#420850 << afaik ~nobody any moar has the jre horror, not even the saddest crapple folx, ~entirely abolished [20:38]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:24 mircea_popescu: that even runs in most browsers, does it ? .jre thing ? [20:38]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1845990 << this is possibly the most fitting description of that state I've ever read. [21:03]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:02 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845890 << florida is a shithole born of the dreams of new england mediocre, and populated by the offspring of bartenders and strippers. [21:03]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845983 <<< kinda how minigame ended up with 2nd box [21:33]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 23:58 asciilifeform: 'staging box' for newstuff [21:33]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1845994 << lol, drowned like the gypsy starved. [21:34]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:04 trinque: eh they're used to it [21:34]
mircea_popescu: not fatal. [21:34]
ben_vulpes: trinque: hey i like finding shitty bars in shitty neighborhoods and talking up the locals don't want to live there [22:23]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i would like to pen the pets, this isn't quite the free-range wild wild west where i can brand them and expect them back later in the week [22:25]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845900 << imho serb outpost would rock [22:25]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:04 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes france is not nearly as much "in the eu" as you think, especially the occitan portion. morever, europe is tiny, vienna is a short drive away, the vienna of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842767 and then hungary and serbia and so on. [22:25]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pen wut ?! [22:26]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc he keeps dogs [22:26]
ben_vulpes: children too [22:26]
asciilifeform: the kind with legs [22:26]
ben_vulpes: well one [22:26]
mircea_popescu: my confusion persists. [22:26]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu hails from lands where the children roam free, are eventually returned to their parents, right? [22:27]
mircea_popescu: oh oh, i see, someone's gonna TAKE them. [22:27]
ben_vulpes: aha, "child protective services" [22:28]
mircea_popescu: the notion that anyone'd want someone else's kids is not unlike the notion someone'd want someone else's mortgage, used tp, etc. [22:28]
mircea_popescu: not bloody likely. [22:28]
asciilifeform: iirc they have this 'feature' in all 50 states [22:28]
asciilifeform: even texas. [22:28]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik in texas it's "except if kid has red ryder" [22:29]
ben_vulpes: oh no, this is a statal bezzle where the local cps takes "at risk" children and sells them to "foster care". statal human trafficking ring. [22:29]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not humans. usg stormtroopers. take, and feed to. [22:29]
asciilifeform: well, i'll let ben_vulpes describe, to what. [22:29]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform state, not federal. [22:29]
asciilifeform: big diff? [22:30]
mircea_popescu: well yes. [22:30]
asciilifeform: fed funding. [22:30]
mircea_popescu: omfg bimbo can voice self ?! [22:30]
ben_vulpes: i also happen to enjoy my privacy. [22:30]
ben_vulpes: it speaks! [22:30]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: q was why build fence at ~old~ house. or did i misread [22:31]
mircea_popescu: how do you like the republican corporate environment, ho ? [22:31]
nicoleci: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845972, i had to because im sorry - i must have broken something. went back to the previous version.. [22:32]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 23:00 diana_coman: none of the links on bimbo.club work for me -> I can't leave a comment [22:32]
lobbesbot: nicoleci: Sent 3 days, 22 hours, and 1 minute ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8O0EO/?raw=true << Your wordpress login [22:32]
nicoleci: ah sorry, you can try now [22:32]
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, its been another adventure :) [22:34]
asciilifeform: oh hey is this the accountant chix [22:34]
mircea_popescu: lol check her out, all like upbeat and shit. [22:34]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah ah, well i started on the fence *first* and then i decided to move. [22:34]
nicoleci: asciilifeform, not exactly but sure lol [22:35]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: why not let new owner build it, lol [22:35]
mircea_popescu: nicoleci i thought you were a pisicologist. [22:35]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not selling, leasing on, incomplete upgrades are a pretty serious ding in negotiation. [22:35]
mircea_popescu: wait, you actually own it ?! [22:36]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: hire mexican to finish it ? [22:36]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think he can find a cheaper mexican than ben_vulpes [22:36]
asciilifeform: lol [22:36]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: has it [22:37]
mircea_popescu: aren't taxes a wonderful thing. [22:37]
* mircea_popescu warmly recommends slave labour, but i guess ben_vulpes stronghold not quite there yet [22:38]
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, well yes Master but you introduced me to the field...lol [22:39]
mircea_popescu: wait, which field ?! accountancy ? [22:40]
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, <mircea_popescu> nicoleci i thought you were a pisicologist. [22:40]
mircea_popescu: lmao [22:40]
ben_vulpes: wives are chattel property! [22:41]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1845998 << sure, but this relies on the myth anyone speaks ru. [22:41]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:18 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845938 << this supposed untranslatability of ro, is illusory imho, translates just fine to ru and prolly other civilized tongues [22:41]
ben_vulpes: girl in question has been admirably sinking holes, casting posts, hanging cladding. [22:42]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: coupla folx do speak, lol [22:42]
mircea_popescu: :p [22:42]
ben_vulpes: ooh ooh pisicologist ~='cuntologist'? [22:43]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes but the idea is to have one in latex supervising 2-3 in the buff! [22:43]
asciilifeform: neh that'd be pizdo- [22:43]
asciilifeform: pisica -- cat [22:43]
asciilifeform: the kind with 4 leg [22:43]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a wordplay on pisi (which, http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-39.0-41.1 etc, ro word for pleasant young whore) and psycho. [22:44]
asciilifeform: or, mircea_popescu , also incl with 2 ? [22:44]
asciilifeform: aaa [22:44]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/pisi-dot-ar-y-otras-temas/ prolly better refpoint. [22:45]
asciilifeform: lol that thing! [22:47]
mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845806 i don't have an issue working with anybody in here [22:48]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 13:21 mircea_popescu: an' finally, to be explicit rather than implicit : dear mats, while it's perfectly fine to be working with whichever lord you prefer to be working, if you don't enjoy working with me, but the place for that is in the respective castle. [22:48]
ben_vulpes: http://mycadia.com/ << "synthetic brands to sell synthetic food to synthetic people" [23:15]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/are-you-a-muslim/#comment-49071 << this i totally gotta resurect. "In the quaint words of the virgin Mari, 'Ÿ can not begÿn to ÿllustrate the ÿmmensÿti of the fuck Ÿ do not gÿve.' " [23:44]
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845961 >> those glasses though! [23:50]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 20:08 mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/paid-content/2010/graffiti_cr1.jpg << and from back when i was gay... [23:50]
mircea_popescu: ikr ? [23:50]
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