Forum logs for 15 Jan 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes page is for "pages" which is a weird concept, but stuff like my eulora shop for instance [00:24]
mircea_popescu: ahaha that's a right proper mess of a page you got there [00:32]
* mircea_popescu archives [00:32]
ben_vulpes: :( [00:32]
ben_vulpes: i hate this thing [00:32]
mircea_popescu: it would be easy if you knew what you were doing [00:32]
ben_vulpes: possibly less than the previous thing [00:32]
ben_vulpes: fuck [00:32]
ben_vulpes: off! [00:32]
mircea_popescu: oh no wait, wrong card. READ THE ERROR MESSAGE [00:32]
ben_vulpes: your stupid thing is eating error message [00:33]
ben_vulpes: messages* [00:33]
mircea_popescu: it's all divs man. they float, man. let the the divs float man. [00:33]
mircea_popescu: hm that might have been for a ted talk, nm. [00:33]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i'd seriously say if i had anything useful. but sadly... [00:34]
mircea_popescu: in other news, i just got a pingback for an article you published in 2014 [00:35]
ben_vulpes: cool story [00:35]
ben_vulpes: i just updated an article i wrote in 2014 [00:35]
mircea_popescu: aha so pingbacks work then [00:35]
ben_vulpes: sending -- works! [00:36]
mircea_popescu: do you want my pingbackcatchup script ? [00:36]
ben_vulpes: sure, yeah [00:36]
ben_vulpes: sounds useful [00:36]
mircea_popescu: << [00:37]
mircea_popescu: it'll hard-resend until you are satisfied. [00:37]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1653...5409 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( CH) [00:45]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1768...6493 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( CH) [00:45]
ben_vulpes: ugh okay [01:01]
ben_vulpes: new comments and posts on the front page, comments now fully threaded [01:01]
ben_vulpes: intimacy breeds contempt [01:02]
ben_vulpes: << you're a narc, brian armstrong. nobody likes a narc. [02:37]
mats: trinque: i read the transcript and it was boring [04:00]
mats: relatedly, ~4k soldiers from 3rd Armored BCT / 4th ID deploy to poland [04:03]
mats: and three additional deployments to the Baltics planned, as per the 'European Reassurance Initiative' [04:03]
mats: i suppose the one interesting thing from the confirmation hearing is the stated intention to put the National Guard and various branch Reserve components in a state of readiness as it was in the decade following 9/11 [04:08]
mats: which makes sense, they've proven their effectiveness especially as DoD's operational tempo continued to go up in those years [04:16]
mats: and even with the augmentation from reserves, tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of folks saw 'stop-loss' orders, that is, 'fuck you, this 6/9/12 month deployment is actually getting extended until further notice because needs of the army' [04:21]
Framedragger: fromphuctor: you might want to check in (or hang around until) ~evening your time (assuming you're in .ch), relevant folks may come online around that time. :) [07:58]
mircea_popescu: !!up fromphuctor [08:55]
deedbot: fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes. [08:55]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have words from mp's free critique services : 1. too big font, too much whitespace => way too few words in right column 2. single utility column => too much scrolling to get articles 3 no good structuring of history (and i dun care about your categories enough to want them listed) 4. bad idea to put whole article in archive listing, because then you have to paginate the months which defeats the whole point [09:21]
mircea_popescu: of having an array (which is what "archive" means, it's not a fucking list) [09:21]
mircea_popescu: << check out your pagination (i'd show you exactly where but there's no way to select position in text scroll down to first place where there's a hash) [09:23]
mircea_popescu: mats yeah but if trump withdraws em it's basically a two week vacation. [09:39]
mircea_popescu: and in other things you had nfi about, "Northern Light Group, LLC is a company specializing in strategic research portals, enterprise search technology, and text analytics solutions." [09:45]
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : the news on china today is : the guardian pretending like china's telling trump what's what fox news pretending like china's telling trump what's what abc online sanely representing the situation cnn pretending like china's telling trump what's what nbcnews pretending like china's telling trump what's what washington post pretending like china's telling trump what's what in new words rather than [09:58]
mircea_popescu: by copy/paste like everyone else AND SO FOLLOWING. [09:58]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "trump is with putin". why, because he gets in the way of the fake news being with china ? [09:58]
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, everyone agrees the us is a colony now, but from that it doesn't exactly follow which bits fall into which spheres of influence does it. [09:59]
mircea_popescu: and in other #thedesperate [10:00]
mircea_popescu: This is unlike any inauguration we’ve seen,” said Ben Wikler, Washington director of the progressive group “We’ve never seen a counter-inauguration that dwarfs the crowd at the inauguration itself. It will be unmistakeable where the energy is. It will be in the broad and diverse movement to oppose the Trump agenda.” <<->> [10:04]
mircea_popescu: really now ? [10:05]
mircea_popescu: "But along with the celebrations, there will be a week of protest against a man who insulted Mexicans and Muslims and boasted about groping women. There were demonstrations against Richard Nixon in 1973 and George W Bush in 2001, but nothing on the scale Trump faces in Washington, a liberal bastion where he took just 4% of the vote (even Bush managed 9% in 2000). " << maybe dude moves the capital to salt lake city. wouldn't T [10:08]
mircea_popescu: HAT be a lulz. [10:08]
mircea_popescu: oh, let the forgotten not be forgotten : "NPR-3 hours ago Iraqi forces are nearing what is expected to be the toughest part of the fight for the northern Iraqi city of Mosul." [10:11]
mircea_popescu: THIRD MONTH. [10:11]
mircea_popescu: or no wait, actually ... fourth. [10:11]
mircea_popescu: "Regardless of how you view Trump and his positions, his election has led to a deep, deep sense of uncertainty and that will cast a long shadow over Davos," said Jean-Marie Guehenno, CEO of International Crisis Group, a conflict resolution think-tank. Moises Naim of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace was even more blunt: "There is a consensus that something huge is going on, global and in many respects unprecedent [10:17]
mircea_popescu: ed. But we don't know what the causes are, nor how to deal with it." [10:17]
mircea_popescu: dude... i had no idea this world was actually so full of important people. [10:17]
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you all ready for teh great gala ? [11:08]
asciilifeform: << iirc the man is not loved in mormonlandia -- recently came out iirc that their ~entire economy runs on 'servicing' the imaginary f35 [11:38]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 15:08 mircea_popescu: "But along with the celebrations, there will be a week of protest against a man who insulted Mexicans and Muslims and boasted about groping women. There were demonstrations against Richard Nixon in 1973 and George W Bush in 2001, but nothing on the scale Trump faces in Washington, a liberal bastion where he took just 4% of the vote (even Bush managed 9% in 2000). " << maybe dude moves the capital to salt lake city. wouldn't T [11:38]
mircea_popescu: well logically, wouldn't you go hold your inauguration in either a) the state where you got the highest % or else b) in the state where hillary got the greatest margin below what she expected ? say something like "there's some people in this country who think they're better than everyone else, and i don't want to hang out with them" [11:56]
mircea_popescu: maybe send pence's secretary to send your regards to the washington thing and thatssat. [11:56]
mircea_popescu: why even fucking entertain a bad restaurant where the waitresses (with singer-songwriter aspirations) and busboys (rappers!) didn't even vote for you ? [11:56]
mircea_popescu: fuck you washington dc, i get 4% of the vote you get 96% income slashed off. [11:57]
mircea_popescu: so as per a) it'd be west virginia (dude got 68.63% o.o) or else the 3rd district of nebraska. as per b) i guess pennsylvania. hold it in harrisburg ftw. [12:12]
mircea_popescu: in any case the DC must be strangled, wtf is this, 90% hillary ? really ? that's the deep reason for all the fake news, all the unemployable idjits working as "staffers" and moonlighting as "journalists". [12:16]
mircea_popescu: coupla hundred thousand dorks who imagine dc is their own personal github, to write "codes of conduct" for and come up with "restricitve political stances" and whatnot. [12:17]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was ~90% obummer, iirc, also [12:22]
mircea_popescu: yeah well, look at the results, they go 60/40 to 40/60. the 90/4 thing is an outlier, evidently it'll ahve to be crushed. [12:23]
asciilifeform: not for the reason mircea_popescu suspected tho. being a city, in usa, it is mostly black, and they vote the democrat ticket. [12:23]
asciilifeform: bmore, et al, similar. [12:23]
mircea_popescu: the ~only way a "professional" bureaucracy may survive is if it has no particular strong preference. [12:23]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody in the 250k dc residents who vote there are slaves, gtfo. it's 100% middle class jewish with unwarranted aspirations and a drug habit. [12:24]
mircea_popescu: the pink collars vote in maryland or wherever. [12:24]
asciilifeform: they don't operate by voting, no. they bus the inner city professional sad sacks 'helpfully' to the polls, and let'em know for whom to vote. [12:25]
asciilifeform: y'know, just like in 1860s with irish. [12:25]
mircea_popescu: there is some substance to what you say in the sense that it gains like 10k per year. [12:25]
asciilifeform: fwiw the practice is conspicuous enough to be visible to the naked eye. [12:26]
mircea_popescu: but it was under 50% white in 2011 for the first time, mind. [12:26]
asciilifeform: (there are ads everywhere re 'we will help you get to the polls!' etc) [12:26]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bureaucrat caste swelled under obummer, while the train system declined. so a decision was made to clear out some 'habitable' zones for'em in dc. [12:27]
mircea_popescu: myeah [12:27]
asciilifeform: this led to cries of 'oh noez, racists retaking their historic motherland from diversefolx' etc. [12:27]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "A Robert Emery 2007 report found that about one-third of Washington residents are functionally illiterate, compared to a national rate of about one in five." [12:29]
mircea_popescu: stalin would not be impressed. [12:29]
asciilifeform: this btw is very low bar. it means: they cannot read even street sign. [12:29]
asciilifeform: nor fill out own welfare form. [12:30]
mircea_popescu: aha. [12:30]
mircea_popescu: and it also hides the fact that half of those under 30 aren't qualified to be dressed in public under the "one in three" all ages bs. [12:31]
asciilifeform: dunno, under 30 the rotgut hasn't kicked in yet. [12:31]
asciilifeform: so maybe slightly less vegetable overall. [12:31]
mircea_popescu: nope. [12:32]
mircea_popescu: o look, the wikipedia article on "white flight" manages to somehow be all about "environmental racism" and other bullshit. [12:33]
phf: the whole point of "no child left" is to skew literacy rates through standardized multiple choice. "by the end of this course you will recognize the words dog, cat and food. this will also be in the test" [12:36]
mircea_popescu: yes, but it also produces a 90% majority of people who nevertheless can't "influence the elections" [12:36]
asciilifeform: phf: dog training for people, aha. [12:38]
mircea_popescu: somehow the idiocy of self-hat-stealing is never evident. and it's not just a matter of politics. single-wife marriages are generally exercises in "trying to keep the woman as stupid as possible". why, exactly ? not like she's not your woman, if you make her dumb who the fuck is going to defend you when you run into a guy with a dozen women and a fleet of battleships ? [12:38]
mircea_popescu: you don't fucking want to gain approval in the herd at the cost of diminishing herd quality. who the fuck runs a herd like this! [12:38]
asciilifeform: folx who think their 'mandate of heaven' is a permanent fixture of the universe. [12:39]
asciilifeform: that's who. [12:39]
mircea_popescu: somehow exactly nobody in the idiocratic party stood up at the convention and said "the reason we couldn't get our girl elected is that for 30 years while we had the resources, we squandered them on sucking black dick instead of spending them on whips for the same blacks" [12:39]
asciilifeform: notion is that it 'could not possibly matter' whether half of usa can or cannot read, because it isn't as if chimpanzees will learn to make jets. [12:39]
mircea_popescu: it has to be mp in #trilema, there's nobody among all those according-to-them important thinkers to have added these twos together. [12:39]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bankruptcy of this approach would be evident to anyone functionally literate. or for that matter vaguely numerate. [12:40]
asciilifeform: recall the old observation about how 'communism must expand and destroy healthy tissue, or die' ? [12:41]
mircea_popescu: same thing with fucking apple, "we'll make tools that make the users dumb but happy". really ? and who will defend you, when the guys who made their users smart but uncomfortable come seeking your head ? [12:41]
mircea_popescu: dude they don't have to be stupid just because they're stupid. [12:41]
asciilifeform: europe was (theoretical) threat, so now it will be converted into exact copy of usa. [12:41]
asciilifeform: with ~50% violently illiterate halfwits, etc. [12:41]
asciilifeform: and real estate racket in the now-so 'valuable' exclusion zones. [12:41]
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt it needed any help with that by churchill's time england was entirely that already. started in manchester cca 1800s. [12:42]
mircea_popescu: at a time the usian methodists etc were trying hard to resist that tide all over east coast mill towns [12:42]
mircea_popescu: what with all the nunneries. [12:42]
mircea_popescu: phf it's interesting how un-alphabetic their approach is, also. "you will learn these three hieroglyphs and shame on mp for using longer words than 4 letters, it's not really writing when you do that!" [12:43]
phf: "multiple choice" is sop for everything here [12:44]
mircea_popescu: i can 60% a 4-choice test on any topic in klingon. [12:45]
mircea_popescu: so can most everyone. [12:45]
mircea_popescu: worst fucking cypher ever. [12:45]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at one point they tried to abolish the obviously-comical 'multiple choice', in favour of... worse thing, can you picture: [12:46]
asciilifeform: machine-scored freeform essay ! [12:46]
asciilifeform: (i shit thee not) [12:46]
mircea_popescu: actually (evidently nobodyu's done this, because hurr, experts, hurr, cryptographers, hurr durr) but it would be amusing to run simple word length averaging on random selection of multiple choice tests, see how often you can crack it with no other measure [12:46]
mircea_popescu: "we created ai that can pass any college exam. it... counts letters." [12:47]
asciilifeform: aaactually [12:47]
asciilifeform: this was done for the old entrance exam ('sat') in 1990s, and turned into a 'THEY dun want YOU to KNOW!!111' b00k, and fixed. [12:47]
mircea_popescu: heh [12:47]
mircea_popescu: i take the nobody back then. impressive enough. [12:47]
asciilifeform: in the old dayz, there was a somewhat more 'turkish' system in usa, when the snake had not yet shed its vestigial legs, and 'merit' still had to be faked into existence for the children of the anointed. [12:48]
asciilifeform: so the exams had 'magic tricks' built in, like this. [12:48]
asciilifeform: then -- fixed, because nobody gave any longer half a shit about exams. [12:49]
asciilifeform: 'holistic', see, admissions, nao. [12:49]
mircea_popescu: holy sticks. [12:49]
asciilifeform: 3 types of meatstock are bred for the college racket in usa: the slum bunnies ('diversity admit', they bring in usg payola), the eloi (actual future mandarins, small numbers, they zuckerberg around, you will find'em on rowboats, yachts), and the peasants (most of the chumpers. their purpose is to service nondischargeable debt for the rest of their natural lives.) [12:52]
phf: missing the quarterbackers from your list [12:54]
asciilifeform: where i went, they were mostly in first category. [12:54]
mircea_popescu: hey, for as long as the fathers of peasants buy into the nonsense dissected in that arrangement is sustainable, i guess. [12:54]
mircea_popescu: phf i was thinking, wtf, college for any other purpose than slut magnet ? where's he live. [12:54]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they fall into the 3rd category -- they exist so that male chumper has TWO sets of nondischargeable loan to service, vs 1. [12:55]
mircea_popescu: us college exists principally to make young women comfortable with being naked in public and such basics, as far as anyone can tell. [12:55]
mircea_popescu: nudist beaches would do ~same service, but whatevs. [12:56]
asciilifeform: i am looking at this farm through the lens of the farmer, rather than the cow. [12:56]
phf: well, umd campus is large, and tech buildings are, as is usually the case, are in the remote corner. you have to track all the way past the student center, to the other side, where poliscy and sociology are [12:56]
asciilifeform: to the cow -- yes, farm exists to supply tasty snacks and warm place to moo. [12:56]
mircea_popescu: and "communications" and "arts" and "multimedia" and "drama" and the list goes on [12:56]
mircea_popescu: wtf is communications anyway. [12:56]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf is quite right, the place was astonishingly physically segregated [12:56]
asciilifeform: almost like 2 separate unis. [12:57]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: intro to journawhoring [12:57]
phf: right, there's a very distinct continuum, with compsci building on one end and rhsmith of business on the other [12:57]
mircea_popescu: label entirely bereft of any meaning, it's like going to cooking school called "alchemy" [12:57]
mircea_popescu: and the ~only "media" they study in this "multimedia" is youtube shorts. [12:58]
mircea_popescu: which are worse than ads ffs. [12:58]
phf: actually, this is pretty hilarious. because you can walk a reasonably straight line and get: compsci, electric engineering, chemistry, math, student center, political science, cultural studies, arts, business buildings in that order [12:59]
mircea_popescu: and where's the best parties ? [12:59]
phf: left of the line [13:00]
mircea_popescu: immediately outside campus ? [13:00]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: yup, ready to rock in 60 mins for the auction. [13:00]
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nice, your stuff is all laid out for you. [13:00]
pete_dushenski: cool thx [13:01]
phf: left of the line it runs on campus housing, the three bars where everyone gets shitface and then sororities (i suspect fraternities are also there, but no idea) [13:02]
* pete_dushenski is such a noob at eulora... [13:02]
phf: so yeah, it's immediately outside campus [13:02]
mircea_popescu: is the "charitable" pretense that was going on in the 90s still going strong or is it starting to go away ? [13:05]
phf: "charitable" pretense? [13:06]
ben_vulpes: and in other ai herpderps: [13:09]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ack [13:09]
mircea_popescu: you know, sororities supposedly existed not to get the members deflowered but to "service the community" [13:09]
mircea_popescu: so it kept pushing teenage ditzes into old people's homes and whatnot. [13:10]
phf: i'm pretty sure that whole angle is never going away, at least it was as strong while i was there. one sort of complements the other. [13:11]
pete_dushenski: << heh, can BingoBoingo top a whole cooked shrimp ? [13:11]
mircea_popescu: at some point in the 60s/70s it was mostly about personal achievement [13:12]
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski well there is that nice video of the girl sticking dildos inside etc [13:12]
mircea_popescu: anyway, this shift from "spend your free time getting better and let the others acquire that as best they can" to "spend your free time giving yourself for free and forget improvement" is very much the reason america even needs to be made great again. r&d ended up cut out of the loop as it were who wants the time of some dork "as she is". [13:17]
mircea_popescu: "somebody who has no other options, evidently" "oh yeah, and HOW did they end up not having other options ?" "ikr! SOCIALISM FOREVAR!!1" [13:18]
phf: umd is a public school, there's not necessarily "tradition of excellence" when it comes sororities/fraternities. it's the least common denominator herding kind of thing, with corresponding activities [13:18]
mircea_popescu: but in the late 60s there was :) [13:18]
phf: i have two or three friends who were proud of their ivy fraternities, and i checked, umd had a chapter for one of them, stopped qualifying sometime in the 80s [13:19]
phf: other two would never even consider [13:19]
phf: so it's a divergent process, you have mediocrity taking over, while excellence retreating [13:21]
mircea_popescu: aha. [13:25]
mircea_popescu: retreating where exactly is an open question, but sure. [13:25]
phf: i want to believe that there's a dusty attic somewhere on upenn campus, grandfathered in of course, with a library and a secret liquor store, where boys wearing ascots meet to discuss their progress at becoming men [13:29]
mircea_popescu: this somewhat in the vein of "i want to believe these eggs weren't actually shat by the dumbest thing on the farm." [13:29]
phf: actually funniest "charitable" pretense is some years ago kate michaels raising money for underprivileged kids so that they can play polo. every time i remember it i crack up [13:49]
mircea_popescu: cargo cultism all the way. [13:51]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: where does the eulora client hide the in-game logs ? [13:53]
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski $home/.Eulora/logs/ [13:53]
pete_dushenski: cheers [13:54]
pete_dushenski: another dumb q : the auction convo just happens in the 'auction' tab, yes ? [13:56]
mircea_popescu: no. [13:56]
mircea_popescu: come to the town up teh hill [13:56]
mircea_popescu: yer supposed to lay out the merchandize and so forth [13:56]
pete_dushenski: uhh hm. [13:57]
mircea_popescu: wouldja join #eulora eh. [13:59]
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski ^ [13:59]
Framedragger: unrelated to anything, just a nice writeup by djb about his conference trip to st petersburg: [14:05]
Framedragger: " The phone rang shortly after I drifted off. No more jet lag I jumped out of bed and picked up the phone. Now I'll find out who's been calling, I thought. ``Would you like beautiful Russian sex girl?'' a woman asked. ``No, thank you,'' I said. Couldn't you just hand out forms at the front desk? I thought. I went back to sleep. " [14:06]
mircea_popescu: who doesn't want beautiful russian sex girls / [14:07]
phf: the kind of people who think that the only better way to say no to a beautiful russian sex girl is to do it over a form [14:08]
mircea_popescu: for srs. [14:08]
mircea_popescu: YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO FUCK HER [14:08]
Framedragger: that's a good point. why not a good late night chat with beautiful russian girl. [14:09]
mircea_popescu: i certainly spent way more time chatting with whores than fucking them. no regrets. [14:09]
Framedragger: another film recommendation by association - documentary: "whore's glory" - by one glawogger (who died from malaria or somesuch while filming in liberia or somewheresuch), a bunch of interviews with whores in bangladesh, thailand etc [14:10]
Framedragger: nice rapport, nice camera work. [14:10]
mircea_popescu: well an interview may be too formal, but yeh [14:11]
Framedragger: (it's more like them just talking in the film, i must say it is really a nice watch) [14:11]
Framedragger: some of his films are available as media download on iirc [14:12]
Framedragger: s/whore's/whores'/ [14:12]
asciilifeform: << everybody wants 'beautiful sex gurl' but i suppose not everybody wants 'walk off with your wallet gurl' [14:19]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 19:07 mircea_popescu: who doesn't want beautiful russian sex girls / [14:19]
mircea_popescu: hotel hookers aren't dangerous. think for a second. [14:20]
asciilifeform: (while we're on subj, mircea_popesculandia was interesting in re whores, they had ads for'em pasted on every surface, dumpsters, light poles, bus stations, as if they were plumbers in usa) [14:20]
mircea_popescu: whoring is legal here. [14:21]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite obviously i do not know bernstein as a human, but can only conjecture, that he felt like a proper rube , ripe for fleecing in orc land. [14:21]
asciilifeform: (from my reading of the text.) [14:21]
mircea_popescu: i guess. [14:21]
asciilifeform: << eh hey hundred years ago they started 'raising money for underprivileged' so they could derp around 'learning' the liberal arts, and that's how we go to here. [14:24]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 18:49 phf: actually funniest "charitable" pretense is some years ago kate michaels raising money for underprivileged kids so that they can play polo. every time i remember it i crack up [14:24]
asciilifeform: what polo could compare. [14:24]
mircea_popescu: in other news pete_dushenski is actually a pretty clever auctioneer, once he overcomes not having done homewerks through listening to the market chatter. [14:34]
danielpbarron: yeah, thanks pete_dushenski for the auctioneering [15:58]
asciilifeform: in other lelz, >> 'a special cover plate had to be made to cover the 50 direct line buttons, to prevent visitors from seeing who Obama's primary phone contacts were' [16:14]
asciilifeform: also lulzy is the visible to naked eye disjunction between the 'sv world' (the cisco phones) and ye olde Golden Toilets That Worked (the raytheon thing) [16:14]
mircea_popescu: aha [16:15]
asciilifeform: 'For security reasons, the wireless connections of the president's iPad are disabled.' [16:15]
mircea_popescu: those security reasons being "apple could buy russia", of coruse. [16:16]
mircea_popescu: !!up indiancandy [16:17]
deedbot: indiancandy voiced for 30 minutes. [16:17]
indiancandy: thanks i downloaded kleoptra [16:17]
indiancandy: i just duno how to use this [16:17]
mircea_popescu: iirc shinohai helps distressed damsels in exchange for nudiecams. [16:18]
indiancandy: does he [16:18]
shinohai: I can be humble servant or cruel taskmaster. [16:19]
shinohai: Ypour choice. [16:19]
indiancandy: servant [16:19]
danielpbarron: lol [16:19]
mircea_popescu: dang these ai lisp bots are getting better by the day [16:19]
indiancandy: wait is shino a bot [16:19]
indiancandy: :( [16:19]
shinohai: Nope [16:20]
mircea_popescu: what do you care, he still gets the job done! [16:20]
indiancandy: true [16:20]
indiancandy: so how do i activate kleo [16:20]
shinohai: But if you want to shove batteries in me and make me do repetitious tasks, I do enjoy roleplay. [16:20]
indiancandy: shino [16:21]
indiancandy: help me [16:21]
indiancandy: il show u tits [16:21]
shinohai: indiancandy: I used this link to help Eulora noobs a bit ttps:// [16:22]
shinohai: If you are stuck on Windows, which I must assume so. [16:23]
indiancandy: yea [16:23]
indiancandy: windows [16:23]
shinohai: Then that *should* explain most of it, feel free to PM if you get stuck, happy to guide you through. [16:23]
indiancandy: whats the passphrase/ [16:26]
shinohai: You make one up. [16:26]
shinohai: So to sign/decrypt a document, you will need to enter pass[hrase to complete. [16:26]
indiancandy: im on part 5 now [16:32]
indiancandy: wow i made it this far [16:32]
indiancandy: #roud [16:32]
indiancandy: proud [16:32]
indiancandy: do i need to go on [16:33]
indiancandy: can u teamviewer me [16:33]
indiancandy: shino [16:34]
shinohai: not a good idea to teamviewer for security purposes but ... lemme see here. [16:35]
indiancandy: why [16:35]
indiancandy: i trust u [16:35]
indiancandy: lol [16:35]
indiancandy: should inot [16:35]
shinohai: lol [16:36]
shinohai: actually if you have your public key now, just paste it here: [16:37]
shinohai: once you get a link to it, simply register it with deedbot thus: !!register <url to paste> [16:37]
shinohai: hmmm ... how does one even teamviewer on gentoo? I feel like if I typr `emerge --ask teamviewer` my computer will die of sadness. [16:40]
indiancandy: im stuck [16:41]
indiancandy: ahahah [16:41]
indiancandy: u need a normal pc [16:41]
indiancandy: damnu [16:41]
shinohai: indiancandy: you said you were able to perform Step 3 correct? [16:41]
shinohai: (Obtain public key) [16:41]
indiancandy: yea [16:42]
indiancandy: im stuck on 5 [16:42]
shinohai: no need to worry bout that one at the moment [16:42]
shinohai: Take public key (step3) paste it here: [16:43]
shinohai: and lemme know when you got it [16:43]
indiancandy: wait [16:43]
indiancandy: this shit is in chinese [16:43]
indiancandy: i swear [16:43]
indiancandy: is it supoosed to be [16:43]
indiancandy: i opened it in notepad [16:43]
indiancandy: ahaha [16:43]
shinohai: yeah it looks like a page full of nonsense [16:44]
shinohai: but that is your "public key" [16:44]
indiancandy: ok [16:45]
indiancandy: then [16:45]
indiancandy: i pasteit into candadianhackr [16:45]
indiancandy: then [16:45]
shinohai: take the link and type here: !!register <LINK> [16:46]
shinohai: (here in chat) [16:46]
indiancandy: [16:46]
indiancandy: ? [16:46]
indiancandy: !!register <> [16:46]
deedbot: Import failed for indiancandy. [16:46]
shinohai: whoa [16:46]
indiancandy: sorry [16:46]
shinohai: I just see boxes [16:46]
indiancandy: it failed [16:46]
indiancandy: im confused [16:46]
shinohai: !!key shinohai [16:46]
deedbot: [16:46]
shinohai: ^ your public key *should* look like that [16:46]
indiancandy: !!register <だ댧卾ᅟ룱ࢤ�ᫎ䂳䯫证慢ቊ콥贐较本덁㡚࠘譂ꘪ蜈出ᜄ粘锝⛥箥戴ᷜꔐ俟组․ഒ㻒㌕낌ᥥ款ړ忲䧚뾨շ脵됾쓰娊嫥៏䙿槥晥获᷑룜巵歛踈> [16:47]
deedbot: hands you a broomstick. [16:47]
indiancandy: mate [16:47]
indiancandy: this is stress [16:47]
shinohai: !!up indiancandy [16:47]
deedbot: indiancandy voiced for 30 minutes. [16:48]
danielpbarron: prolly need to ascii armor it [16:48]
indiancandy: what [16:48]
danielpbarron: when you did whatever you did to open notepad, was there a checkbox that said something like "ASCII Armor" [16:48]
indiancandy: no [16:49]
shinohai: Usually in Kleopatra, it asks you to save the cert, you give it name as a .txt file, and can open it in notepad [16:49]
indiancandy: yea [16:49]
indiancandy: then [16:49]
indiancandy: whenu open it its chinese writing [16:49]
shinohai: Weird [16:50]
indiancandy: だ댧卾ᅟ룱ࢤ�ᫎ䂳䯫证慢ቊ콥贐较本덁㡚࠘譂ꘪ蜈出ᜄ粘锝⛥箥戴ᷜꔐ俟组․ഒ㻒㌕낌ᥥ款ړ忲䧚뾨շ脵됾쓰娊嫥៏䙿槥晥获᷑룜巵歛踈 [16:50]
indiancandy: i give up [16:50]
indiancandy: sorry [16:50]
indiancandy: lol [16:50]
indiancandy: :( [16:50]
shinohai: indiancandy: I'll find a teamviewer solution if it will make you happy, but may take me a bit. [16:51]
indiancandy: ok [16:51]
indiancandy: thnx [16:51]
indiancandy: u rock [16:51]
indiancandy: my socks [16:51]
shinohai: I hope so, I can resell those socks at 75% [16:52]
danielpbarron: indiancandy, right click and export cert again, and there should be a box you can check [16:53]
indiancandy: i soldmypubes [16:54]
indiancandy: i swear [16:54]
indiancandy: 2days ago [16:54]
indiancandy: for 45pound [16:54]
indiancandy: pubic trimming [16:54]
shinohai: I always loved assisting the Colombian girls with their sales. The limits of fetish indeed know no bounds. [16:55]
indiancandy: you should asist e [16:56]
indiancandy: ne* [16:56]
indiancandy: me* [16:56]
shinohai: do you just work one site or multiples? [16:58]
indiancandy: just 1 [17:00]
indiancandy: wanna learnchatrubate [17:00]
indiancandy: i find it so complex [17:00]
indiancandy: and all these new sites [17:00]
indiancandy: comin up [17:00]
indiancandy: duno if they r gd [17:00]
indiancandy: which 1 do u kno off [17:00]
shinohai: Well XHamster is where i did most business [17:01]
shinohai: they accept Bitcoin, albeit through bitpay [17:01]
shinohai: link to your myfreecams profile? DOn't think I have seen it. [17:03]
indiancandy: [17:07]
indiancandy: xham a tube [17:07]
shinohai: [17:07]
indiancandy: ooo [17:09]
shinohai: Also [17:09]
shinohai:, oglaf is quite relevant today. [17:09]
mircea_popescu: this looks like it's been going well... [17:10]
mircea_popescu: lol the devil suit in a devil suit wasn't too basd [17:14]
ben_vulpes: subject of devil suits... [17:17]
shinohai: Well I did manage to follow you on twitter indiancandy ... mfc is quite possibly the most horrid cam site I have ever seen. [17:19]
shinohai: !!up indiancandy [17:19]
deedbot: indiancandy voiced for 30 minutes. [17:19]
indiancandy: lol [17:19]
indiancandy: y [17:19]
indiancandy: whats wrong [17:20]
indiancandy: with it [17:20]
indiancandy: i dunoo i never used any other ones [17:20]
indiancandy: to compare [17:20]
shinohai: It feels .... cramped [17:20]
shinohai: or cluttered I dunno, lots of stuff on the screen [17:21]
indiancandy: oh yh [17:22]
indiancandy: lol [17:22]
mircea_popescu: shinohai camwhoring altogether is a pretty abject occupation. [17:22]
indiancandy: no one asked u sir [17:24]
indiancandy: kol [17:24]
shinohai: I do wonder how some of these girls keep their sanity. I guess I count blessings I have no boobs and merely offer behind the scenes services. [17:24]
indiancandy: i couldnt use toys [17:24]
indiancandy: i duno i see some girls [17:24]
indiancandy: with big totys [17:24]
indiancandy: toys [17:24]
indiancandy: im like wtf [17:24]
indiancandy: everyday [17:24]
indiancandy: omg [17:25]
indiancandy: nasty [17:25]
mircea_popescu: and with the one word per line! [17:25]
asciilifeform: 'Even in March 2016, when a full IT modernization had already started (see below), Obama said that the pop-culture depiction of presidential-grade technology and the real world are far apart: movies and TV shows "make it appear as if I’m in the [Situation] room and moving things. [We] have half a finger print and a half an hour later I’m tracking a guy on streets of Istanbul. Doesn’t work that way, no. Sometimes I’m just tryi [17:26]
asciilifeform: ng to get a connection."' [17:26]
shinohai: One girl I know on xhamster has a regular that plops down 1000 tokens at a time for her to print out pics of him and piss on them. [17:26]
shinohai: had to help her set up a goddamned printer. [17:26]
ben_vulpes: how much does a token cost? [17:26]
indiancandy: not sure [17:27]
mircea_popescu: lmao [17:27]
indiancandy: 500 is 45pound [17:27]
indiancandy: is xhamster good [17:27]
indiancandy: i might join [17:27]
shinohai: 1000 tokens is roughly $100 [17:28]
mircea_popescu: actually at 100 bux or whatever this isn't the worst way to get at people. have woman print dude's pic, take a shit on it, then keep rickrolling him with the video. [17:28]
mircea_popescu: cost of a half-decent meal. [17:28]
indiancandy: idont doo insertion [17:29]
indiancandy: or anything [17:29]
indiancandy: i rarely cum [17:29]
indiancandy: jus tease [17:29]
indiancandy: make 2000 a month [17:29]
indiancandy: for few hours a day [17:29]
indiancandy: not bad [17:29]
shinohai: The only old part for me was translating filthy messages from English to Spanish and back again [17:29]
mircea_popescu: indiancandy wouldn't you be better off if you simply went to every house in london, knocked on door, asked them if they want to move you in the closet and use you sexually for a coupla grand a month ? [17:29]
mircea_popescu: you could call it "au pire" [17:30]
indiancandy: ahahah [17:30]
indiancandy: yea [17:30]
indiancandy: i dont like physical [17:30]
indiancandy: i havent had sex in 4months [17:30]
indiancandy: im off it [17:30]
mircea_popescu: you don't eat beef, don't take the cock, what do you do, play wow all day ? [17:30]
mircea_popescu: if you shot a guy they'd put you away, in ~the same conditions, for free. why even hussle, just go shoot a neighbour and be done. [17:31]
indiancandy: i know im weird [17:33]
indiancandy: i go to the gym [17:33]
indiancandy: thats fun [17:33]
indiancandy: and sit on mfc [17:33]
indiancandy: i have social anxiety [17:33]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform thats the lulziest part of it all, that somehow "nobody knows" just how naked the emperor is. meanwhile i have better connectivity than obama, and i mean that literally. and from a security perspective foremost. [17:33]
indiancandy: hate meeting new people [17:33]
shinohai: you met me today :( [17:33]
mircea_popescu: you don't count cuz online. [17:33]
indiancandy: exactly [17:33]
mircea_popescu: (+ 2 2) shinohai [17:33]
shinohai: I'm an entity. Once you let me near teamviewer or something you will feel my presence [17:34]
shinohai: lol [17:34]
shinohai: Sign into xhamster ..... 85 messages [17:35]
indiancandy: from who [17:35]
indiancandy: mdels? [17:35]
indiancandy: models [17:35]
indiancandy: if i join wil u help me [17:35]
indiancandy: navigate [17:35]
shinohai: What is Bitcoin? DO you manage websites and accounts? [17:35]
shinohai: I heard you know where to xchange tokens for giftcards,coins, etc [17:36]
* mircea_popescu looks... social media bots handled 41k messages this week. [17:36]
shinohai: Any mixture of that [17:36]
mircea_popescu: shinohai sounds like a consultancy biz right there. [17:36]
asciilifeform: 'President Obama talks on the phone with president Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine about the Malaysia Airlines plane crash in eastern Ukraine, July 17, 2014. Here we see the new phone in gray, and as Obama's finger is covering the red light, and the green light is off, it seems a secure call.' [17:36]
shinohai: Yeah I think the universe has been trying to tell me to work with camwhores ever since I found trilema [17:37]
mircea_popescu: there's worse bunnies. [17:37]
shinohai: I'd really like to have a few nice girls for more long-term profitable relationships. I hate the one-off emails. [17:38]
mircea_popescu: that's where the problems begin. [17:38]
shinohai: I still do work for Paula sometimes, she's great to work with. [17:39]
mircea_popescu: postmodern age === age of insanity. average individual is incapable of either forming or maintaining relationships much like a decerebrated pigeon is incapable of building a nest. [17:39]
mircea_popescu: which one was paula ? [17:39]
shinohai: mircea_popescu: [17:40]
indiancandy: you should download kik messenger [17:40]
indiancandy: its good to keep in touch with ppl without ur nunber [17:40]
mircea_popescu: ah ok [17:40]
shinohai: kik doesnt work on my phone, i have used whatsapp before if i just *have* to [17:41]
indiancandy: whatsap is so shite [17:42]
indiancandy: so is kik [17:42]
indiancandy: they all are [17:42]
indiancandy: social media is terrible [17:42]
indiancandy: unless your usuing it to promote a product [17:42]
indiancandy: i dont see much use of it [17:42]
shinohai: twitter is a very, very useful hunting ground if you collect .... slaves indiancandy [17:44]
mircea_popescu: o ? [17:46]
indiancandy: is it how [17:46]
indiancandy: teach me o wise one [17:46]
shinohai: What's my end if I turn you into a successful findom queen? I mean, that's quite a lucrative gig I'd just be turning over .... [17:48]
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's definitely a living in... well, pimping the girls, i suppose. most cam talent is utterly incapable of about half the stuff it has to do and entirely unmotivated to do the rest. if you do for them what shop management does for mcdonalds ewelets a la you can in principle increase their income 10 to 100 and eat half to two thirds of that. [17:48]
mircea_popescu: course there's a bunch of dudes chasing that same buck, but they're mostly dorks. [17:49]
shinohai: !!up indiancandy [17:50]
deedbot: indiancandy voiced for 30 minutes. [17:50]
indiancandy: yea [17:51]
indiancandy: what mp said [17:51]
indiancandy: il be mcdonald [17:51]
indiancandy: n u r shop mgnmmtn [17:51]
shinohai: Can you follow me on twitter so I don't have to visit mfc no more than humanly possible? [17:53]
indiancandy: is ur handle shinohai [17:54]
indiancandy: can u get snapchat? [17:54]
indiancandy: im the most active there [17:54]
indiancandy: satoshi r u japanese [17:55]
mircea_popescu: the insanity of people on irc trying to find alternative means to communicate... but anyway. [17:55]
indiancandy: sorry [17:55]
indiancandy: but im not always here [17:55]
indiancandy: am i [17:55]
indiancandy: dont get offended [17:55]
indiancandy: lol i stole ur friend [17:55]
shinohai: hmmm will look into snapchat never used it [17:55]
indiancandy: i followed u back [17:56]
shinohai: ty o/ [17:57]
mircea_popescu: dun worry about it lel [17:57]
shinohai: "We're sorry, Snapchat has not detected a camera on your device and will now exit" [17:59]
shinohai: lame [17:59]
indiancandy: odd [18:00]
indiancandy: download kik [18:00]
shinohai: I already know kik doesn't work unfortunately. [18:02]
indiancandy: watso [18:02]
indiancandy: is my last option [18:02]
danielpbarron: or just get in the habit of reading this log every day [18:04]
indiancandy: is there an app [18:04]
indiancandy: for hexchatt [18:04]
danielpbarron: there are irc apps as well as a public log you can read in any web browser [18:04]
shinohai: Well I was trying to avoid littering logs with sex strategy discussion, but if you all enjoy. [18:04]
asciilifeform: << lol!! [18:05]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 21:47 indiancandy: !!register <だ댧卾ᅟ룱ࢤ�ᫎ䂳䯫证慢ቊ콥贐较本덁㡚࠘譂ꘪ蜈出ᜄ粘锝⛥箥戴ᷜꔐ俟组․ഒ㻒㌕낌ᥥ款ړ忲䧚뾨շ脵됾쓰娊嫥៏䙿槥晥获᷑룜巵歛踈> [18:05]
danielpbarron: could add a new channel to the trilema network of channels [18:05]
shinohai: #trilema-harem [18:06]
indiancandy: yea [18:06]
indiancandy: il be the bottom bitch [18:06]
indiancandy: first lady [18:06]
asciilifeform: !b 2 [18:07]
asciilifeform: hm [18:07]
shinohai: No, I need you to be cold, cruel, and dominant. [18:07]
shinohai: We got Bitcoin to make. [18:07]
indiancandy: add whatsao [18:09]
indiancandy: i feel like [18:09]
indiancandy: this is confidential [18:09]
indiancandy: info [18:09]
indiancandy: lol [18:09]
shinohai: !!up indiancandy [18:26]
deedbot: indiancandy voiced for 30 minutes. [18:26]
shinohai: !!up Ab [18:26]
deedbot: Ab voiced for 30 minutes. [18:26]
shinohai: well [18:26]
shinohai: !!up flamingtireinashitpit [18:27]
deedbot: flamingtireinashitpit voiced for 30 minutes. [18:27]
indiancandy: what a name [18:28]
indiancandy: lol [18:28]
asciilifeform: !!up randomstringoftext [18:31]
deedbot: randomstringoftext voiced for 30 minutes. [18:31]
asciilifeform: ahahahaha lolk. [18:31]
indiancandy: bots [18:32]
indiancandy: right [18:32]
indiancandy: whose creating them [18:33]
indiancandy: jeez [18:33]
shinohai: !~ty [18:33]
jhvh1: You are very welcome Daddy [18:33]
indiancandy: did u watch the news [18:33]
indiancandy: today [18:33]
indiancandy: about robots in germany [18:33]
indiancandy: and how europe are going to add new laws [18:33]
indiancandy: to prosecute if robots commit crimes [18:33]
indiancandy: insane [18:33]
asciilifeform: !!up deedbotreallyoughttocheckifexists [18:33]
deedbot: deedbotreallyoughttocheckifexists voiced for 30 minutes. [18:33]
indiancandy: zorobot [18:33]
shinohai: Nazibots eh [18:33]
shinohai: Hitler3000 yer service. [18:34]
indiancandy: its scarey [18:35]
indiancandy: they dont have a off button as off yet [18:35]
indiancandy: of* [18:35]
trinque: asciilifeform: mno, shouldn't add reliance on state where there is currently none [19:23]
trinque: I don't trust freenode to keep my table of available nicks accurate [19:23]
trinque: it'd put me in the position later where people are complaining that some nick can't be upped [19:23]
trinque: better to just issue whatever command lord gave, lord himself can see later if it's what he actually wanted [19:23]
mircea_popescu: << you could just start on your lordly mansion, not like you actually need the accolade to maintain it. [20:20]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 23:04 shinohai: Well I was trying to avoid littering logs with sex strategy discussion, but if you all enjoy. [20:20]
* shinohai hopes being a camho lord doesn't require castration or somesuch. [20:21]
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why [20:22]
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the title would be. lord constable ? master of the horse ? [20:24]
mircea_popescu: the marshall of the republic! [20:24]
mircea_popescu: << why ? you're not supposed to do this, unless you want to. so don't do it and don't expect the bot to override you. [20:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 23:33 asciilifeform: !!up deedbotreallyoughttocheckifexists [20:25]
mircea_popescu: trinque has it. [20:25]
asciilifeform: 'twas just a surprise, 'knob goes to eleven?!' is all. [21:25]
asciilifeform: incidentally, having not yet written a bot, i had nfi re the unreliability of the userlist thing. [21:26]
mircea_popescu: even as a general principle, having a bot restrain a lord is to be limited to very well justified cases. [22:04]
BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski I am merely trained as a librarian so I only library my own library and thus little weird finds its way into books I lend [22:34]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. [22:34]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the french left is debating "universal income of 750 euros per month", just for you know, existing reintroducing the draft (gotta earn that free money after all) electing the senate randomly. such topix. [22:43]
asciilifeform: they cancelled draft?! [22:44]
mircea_popescu: long ago. [22:44]
mircea_popescu: anyway, looks like if they manage 10% it'll be a great victory. [22:44]
mircea_popescu: le pen is gonna murder it. [22:44]
asciilifeform: the 750 or whichever tribute to the faithful of mohammed, is happening tho. [22:45]
mircea_popescu: vaguely curious if the "minister for productive recovery" will manage to steal valls' nomination though. [22:45]
asciilifeform: or ovens. probably no 3rd option. [22:45]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for as long as zee germans keep backing the eu finances, sure. [22:45]
mircea_popescu: the greek thing left its marks. everyone wants free monyz, why not. [22:45]
mircea_popescu: france was very briefly a northern european country, against its will, under de gaulle. it really wants to go join the southern states where it belongs. [22:46]
oglafbot: [22:47]
mircea_popescu: was in log! [22:47]
BingoBoingo: Oh, I though shinohai reposted devil suits! [22:47]
mircea_popescu: hm [22:48]
mircea_popescu: nah i did [22:48]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically, the rhodesia of rhodesia was just the first in a string of rhodesiaings. [22:49]
mircea_popescu: and what great hopes the hollande socialists held in 2012, supermajority in parliament, things they were gonna do... ou sont! [22:54]
BingoBoingo: The stretch of French history from 2012 through 2016 will now be known as the Hollandaise! [22:58]
mircea_popescu: quite [22:58]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo hey, your favourite bahamas lifted sanctions on sudan [23:25]
BingoBoingo: Orly? [23:25]
mircea_popescu: yest ya [23:25]
BingoBoingo: Was he on the Hollandaise Sauce? [23:26]
mircea_popescu: anyway. the iranians arrested a bunch of us sailors, got the ciphers etc. [23:28]
mircea_popescu: The humiliating January 12 incident took place when Iranian navy intercepted two American ships off Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf. The US vessels, that according to the Pentagon were on their way from Kuwait to the US naval base in Bahrain, experienced mechanical problems and drifted into Iranian waters where the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) detained everyone onboard. [23:30]
mircea_popescu: (last year, only now reported.) [23:30]
BingoBoingo: Oh my! [23:42]
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