Forum logs for 23 Mar 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

benkay	talking about this?	[00:00]
benkay	http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EOEX+Interactive#symbol=%5EOEX;range=max	[00:00]
ozbot	S&P 100 INDEX Index Chart - Yahoo Finance	[00:00]
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Namworld	Damn, I decoded what was pasted and i got a large image with just a few pixel high line of actual picture.	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	benkay http://bit.ly/1gd6BQW	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	sorry for shortner	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	the image comes straighyt from there, who knew these guys use mpex tech o.O	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	i thought i was the only cool one.	[00:02]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, simply put anything past 1994 is bs.	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	(the 25 year graph makes it quite plain)	[00:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1700 @ 0.00012401 = 0.2108 BTC [-]	[00:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.0730414 = 2.4834 BTC [-] {4}	[00:13]
benkay	2001-2003	[00:14]
benkay	good times	[00:14]
benkay	i start to understand the furor over QE ca 2007	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	should have let the bullshit deflate then	[00:16]
benkay	"but we're already printing money every week! what else are we to do?"	[00:16]
benkay	"i have a pwan! pwint MOAR!"	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	anywya, if anyone wants to sell me ^OEX puts...	[00:17]
benkay	what timeframe? just out of curiousity.	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	five years, say.	[00:17]
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benkay	i've been looking for fb puts on the same scale.	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	i'd take two years there	[00:19]
*	mircea_popescu wistfully recalls his rimm puts. o glory.	[00:19]
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mircea_popescu	i can't sell enough us, as far as i'm concerned.	[00:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00094859 = 7.2093 BTC [+] {2}	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	speaking of which, the berkshire bitbet is something else	[00:22]
benkay	http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/fb/option-chain?callput=put&dateindex=6	[00:22]
ozbot	Facebook, Inc. (FB) Option Chain - Stock Puts & Calls - NASDAQ.com	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	98 no bets for a 34.98 btc pool. 14 yes bets for a 1007.6 pool	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	that's 0.35 avg vs 71.95 avg	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	only 200x	[00:23]
benkay	but buffet, mannnnnn	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	even if we exclude my bet, it's still .54	[00:23]
benkay	smart money is big money.	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	and vice versa.	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	i'll end up making 3% over a year and people will be o noes, such low return	[00:24]
benkay	srs? in btc?	[00:26]
benkay	i was under the impression that 2% was an outrageous return in btc.	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	you don't read the forum much i take it.	[00:27]
benkay	i should fix that.	[00:27]
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mircea_popescu	maybe not	[00:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00094949 = 13.0555 BTC [+]	[00:29]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15358 @ 0.00094855 = 14.5678 BTC [-]	[00:40]
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taub	what exchange is lake	[00:48]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 36 @ 0.0055591 = 0.2001 BTC [+]	[01:01]
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hdbuck	shit im being prosecuted. any lawyers? ^^ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494617.100	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	you're being prosecuted for karpeles being jewish ?	[01:05]
hdbuck	i really cant tell so far	[01:06]
hdbuck	maybee	[01:06]
hdbuck	?!	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	this crap is in service discussion ?!	[01:07]
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hdbuck	lol yeah, i just digged up MK essays and got caught between fires	[01:09]
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hdbuck	mk's bullish essays : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494617.msg5682343#msg5682343	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	what or who is mk	[01:10]
hdbuck	Mark Karpeles	[01:11]
hdbuck	the scammer	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	a a	[01:12]
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kakobrekla	yeah, i better stop using initials for my email signature	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	sucks huh.	[01:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11522 @ 0.00094589 = 10.8985 BTC [-]	[01:16]
kakobrekla	yeah well you are not too far from it	[01:16]
kakobrekla	mp, mk, the keys are right next to each other	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	im not too worried about it	[01:17]
kakobrekla	i know.	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	"The sooner this community gets rid of these stains/schemes currently tainting the innovative and revolutionary world of bitcoin which they are piggybacking, the sooner we will make progress."	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	this preceded by "Your detachment from reality..."	[01:19]
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cazalla	clearly karpeles is JIDF	[01:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6230002 BTC [+]	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	are these the idiots who whine at facebook about whether x y z is a country ?	[01:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00608565 = 0.353 BTC [+] {5}	[01:29]
jborkl	What is JIDF?	[01:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00619576 = 0.2602 BTC [+] {3}	[01:30]
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cazalla	Jewish Internet Defense Force	[01:30]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.checkfundmanager.com/wall_of_shame.html	[01:33]
ozbot	Check Fund Manager Wall of Shame	[01:34]
cazalla	I would probably get along great with radan lol	[01:34]
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hdbuck	what?! they havent had add Karpeles to that list yet? ^^	[01:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00094323 = 2.2638 BTC [-]	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	wait what ?	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	you're aware that there's this bitcoin forum that i work on every day. and on this forum, there are sub-forums. and one of these is off-topic.	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	ya	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	there's a thread there for movie recommendations. forum people. recommending movies to each other. can you imagine the horror? cause it's worse than you imagine.	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	poor girl.	[01:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61519 BTC [-]	[01:39]
hdbuck	mircea_popescu, could you please enlighten me regarding what is actually going to happen in bitcoinland? i mean, all that junk going on with the BTCFoundation, the heists, the banks, the whole damn world? what to expect if not some shitstorm lies and persecutions?	[01:40]
mircea_popescu	well who knows the future eh ?	[01:40]
hdbuck	i figured you had a pretty good idea tho cuz i'm clueless :)	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	who knows, maybe the sec finally decides to stop dicking around and we get some scams actually blown open properly,	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	rather than this current "pick bugs off the floor put them, in the bucket whence they run back out" thing we've been doing for the past three years	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	it's starting to drive the girl nuts, for one.	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	my cock really doesn't taste as bad as people tell themselves.	[01:42]
hdbuck	i saw your first post on the btcforum was: "I'm pretty convinced we will see 1mn$ / BTC at some future point" havent changed your mind so far? ^^	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	what post is this ?	[01:43]
hdbuck	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37923;sa=showPosts	[01:43]
ozbot	Latest posts of: Mircea Popescu	[01:43]
hdbuck	first one	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[01:43]
hdbuck	nice introduction ^^	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, must be some meanwhile forgotten joke ?	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	that aside, bitcoin will outlive the dollar, in which sense any arbitrary price point will be reached eventually.	[01:45]
hdbuck	a joke taht had kept you busy for the last couple of years	[01:45]
hdbuck	anyho, still reading logs. im not going to bother any longer. keeping up the faith :)	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/e7d146810d1469d34acdd03e710ac892/tumblr_mnxx63r5tp1rymyzgo1_1280.jpg	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	have a tit.	[01:46]
diametric	lots of new people stopping by lately i see	[01:47]
cazalla	I'm fairly new and my being here, I would expect more soon diametric	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	curious which is the first hip hop artist to make it here.	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	they all pretend like they're businessmen, it's the hip thing to claim	[01:51]
cazalla	given it takes a year to go through the /r/bitcoin and bitcointalk wringer, i am thinking most end up here after some time and not straight off thet bat	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	i sure hope so.	[01:51]
diametric	cazalla: why is that?	[01:51]
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cazalla	diametric: learning curve i would think	[01:52]
diametric	there is a surprisingly amount of people that really dislike mircea_popescu. I've encountered a few that proclaim he's a scammer, but when questioned on what scam specifically they fail to give details.	[01:53]
diametric	and by association they've linked this channel to scammers	[01:53]
cazalla	I'm your average person, can't keep up with some of the conversation here, need to go and google words for definitions and so forth but I'm here (got started in Bitcoin nov 2012) so I would expect others who are average to start turning up as I have	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	the convenient explanation being that they're exposed scammers/shills with a bone for pr.	[01:53]
CheckDavid	cazalla: normal people have to Google	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	the more likely explanation is probably that they're not actually as smart as they see themsekves.	[01:54]
CheckDavid	But it you actually Google	[01:54]
CheckDavid	You are away being them :)	[01:54]
CheckDavid	*way beyond	[01:55]
cazalla	diametric: I think the dislike might come from feeling inferior due to the conversations here	[01:55]
cazalla	If you put ones ego aside for a moment, there is a lot you can learn, at least that has been my experience to date	[01:55]
diametric	possibly, it also reminds me of when someone wins at something, people immediately assume they cheated somehow because they themselves didn't win.	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	crab pot phenomena	[01:56]
CheckDavid	mircea_popescu sucks	[01:56]
CheckDavid	But I love him	[01:56]
CheckDavid	He is wise	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	omg i don't suck how can you say that!1	[01:57]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[01:58]
hdbuck	im really trying to grasp what happened with the massive PUT orders in early feb. MP's feb report mentioned his ability to stand for the sake of bitcoin, and being well connected, etc... But who was on the other side? Why such orders in bulk at this given period? :/	[01:58]
diametric	asciilifeform: found a device with a ridiculous ppi	[01:59]
asciilifeform	diametric: ?	[01:59]
asciilifeform	(gonna guess: a head-mounted lcd)	[01:59]
diametric	asciilifeform: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/OPPO-Find-7_id8351	[02:00]
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diametric	asciilifeform: 5.5in screen at 1440x2560.	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	hdbuck well don't forget to publish if you figure out anything.	[02:00]
asciilifeform	now we need 24 in of that.	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	diametric that has got to be a scam.	[02:00]
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mircea_popescu	500dpi srsly ?	[02:00]
diametric	mircea_popescu: oppo's made several phones already	[02:01]
asciilifeform	this is only 2x the density of the 'nexus 10' widget i read djvus with.	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	what tech is that ?	[02:01]
diametric	mircea_popescu: oppo has the only phone on the market currently running cyanogen that's been certified by google as well	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	heh and the chinese take the lead.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	so how are they made, just packed tighter ?	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	all i see is a n1 at 2k/1k	[02:03]
asciilifeform	transistors have packed to far greater densities, far earlier	[02:03]
asciilifeform	the 'hard part' of this kind of display is - driving it	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	and that's a ~7inch tablety thing	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform many problems, really.	[02:03]
asciilifeform	kopin corp. had microdisplays with ~1600x1200 in fingernail sized element, for ages	[02:05]
asciilifeform	just not at 'human' prices.	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	well sure	[02:05]
asciilifeform	(ok not quite. but close - http://www.kopin.com/offerings/products/ruggedized-display-products#sxga-lbc)	[02:06]
asciilifeform	there were, if i recall, others.	[02:06]
asciilifeform	(i once took a great interest in the subject of head-mounted displays)	[02:06]
diametric	asciilifeform: do you still actively play go?	[02:13]
asciilifeform	as a matter of fact i do.	[02:13]
diametric	asciilifeform: http://shop.gogameguru.com/	[02:13]
diametric	they just started accepting bitcoin	[02:13]
asciilifeform	haha neat	[02:13]
diametric	with a 15% discount this weekend apparently.	[02:14]
kakobrekla	i havent played in years :	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	great game to play with teh girlz.	[02:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1168 @ 0.00083535 = 0.9757 BTC [-] {7}	[02:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.00546 = 1.092 BTC [-]	[02:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 919 @ 0.00047516 = 0.4367 BTC [-] {4}	[02:20]
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asciilifeform	http://shop.gogameguru.com/kaya-go-board-86/	[02:23]
diametric	asciilifeform: http://www.reddit.com/user/CompileBot	[02:27]
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diametric	asciilifeform: so if you post on reddit with +/u/CompileBot language [ code ], it will run that code and post it as a reply.	[02:28]
decimation	everyone knows that such blocks of wood are trival to obtain - simply punch a tree ala minecraft	[02:28]
asciilifeform	lol	[02:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00319977 = 0.16 BTC [+] {3}	[02:29]
asciilifeform	i actually know someone who owns a board like that.	[02:29]
asciilifeform	my brother. he didn't pay 100k though	[02:29]
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asciilifeform	more like 1k. i think it was old (100+ yrs.) and refinished at least once, after ww2 if i recall.	[02:29]
decimation	well, presumably one could make it out of oak or pine for much less $$	[02:30]
asciilifeform	yes. there's some of those in the linked shop	[02:30]
decimation	the trick is drying and finishing	[02:30]
asciilifeform	it's surprisingly hard to find a breed of wood that comes in the requisite monolithic piece and never - ever - warps.	[02:30]
decimation	there is much art to drying wood without warping	[02:31]
asciilifeform	(the stones, traditionally, are glass and very slippery. so surface gotta be level.)	[02:31]
asciilifeform	(nitpick - traditional stones aren't glass - seashell and slate.)	[02:31]
asciilifeform	all i personally have is a very thoroughly weathered (from abuse as a student) magnetic board.	[02:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00094552 = 13.5209 BTC [+] {2}	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	actually all the good boards i've seen are stone	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	black/white marble on rosy granite works especially well	[02:35]
asciilifeform	i imagine it would. in japan they like the 'click' of the wood though.	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	yeah well, what do they know.	[02:36]
asciilifeform	1 of these days i too will purchase an enormous stone plinth. always wanted one, holography table	[02:37]
decimation	for an optics bench?	[02:37]
asciilifeform	right	[02:37]
decimation	how to design an observatory: http://www.dfmengineering.com/news_observatory_design.html	[02:38]
decimation	one probably need not be that hardcore for an optics bench	[02:39]
decimation	but it would be helpful	[02:39]
asciilifeform	holography specifically	[02:39]
asciilifeform	needs a heavy table	[02:39]
asciilifeform	long exposure times, little tolerance for vibration.	[02:39]
decimation	dump a concrete block in the ground, build a building around it, isolated with air gap	[02:40]
asciilifeform	that's actually pretty close to the traditional recipe:	[02:40]
asciilifeform	stack of old tires, pour 'quickcrete'.	[02:40]
asciilifeform	takes up a good bit of space though.	[02:41]
asciilifeform	(and i'd probably fall through my floor...)	[02:41]
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decimation	yeah you probably want to build it in a basement	[02:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.0031 = 0.1054 BTC [-] {2}	[02:43]
asciilifeform	yeah that's where it ought to go. at any rate, probably not happening in a 30m^2 flat.	[02:44]
asciilifeform	my mind always boggles when i visit somebody's gigantic house and there's no heavy, oily strange in the basement	[02:45]
asciilifeform	all that space, wasted	[02:45]
decimation	even worse; finished with mold-gathering carpet	[02:45]
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mircea_popescu	my mind boggles when i visit someone and they have shit like a pool table in the basement	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	"o ya, you're really living it large dude. the whole point of a pool table is to keep it in a cellar."	[02:56]
dub	its to get away from the woman	[02:56]
Diablo-D3	but I thought the point of a pool table was to throw a woman on it and fuck her	[02:56]
dub	no, tried getting jizz out of felt before?	[02:57]
mircea_popescu	you two are speaking of different women.	[02:57]
mircea_popescu	dub forget that part, that's easy. ever tried to talk to the beast after she's been rubbed raw on marble for half hour ?	[02:57]
dub	can only imagine, I find carpet bad enough	[02:58]
decimation	<> moldbug's solution: formalism http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2007/04/formalist-manifesto-originally-posted.html	[02:59]
decimation	The goal of formalism is to avoid this unpleasant little detour. Formalism says: let's figure out exactly who has what, now, and give them a little fancy certificate. Let's not get into who should have what. Because, like it or not, this is simply a recipe for more violence. It is very hard to come up with a rule that explains why the Palestinians should get Haifa back, and doesn't explain why the Welsh should get London back	[03:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00094323 = 11.4131 BTC [-] {2}	[03:02]
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dub	asciilifeform: noob question im having trouble getting a straight answer, have 20a dc supply that I want to drive (carefully) off 10a of AC mains, bad idea?	[03:06]
asciilifeform	20a of what?	[03:07]
decimation	what voltage is your DC supply?	[03:07]
dub	12v (13.something)	[03:07]
decimation	should be fine, don't put too much other stuff on the AC circuit	[03:07]
dub	ac is 230 if it matters	[03:07]
decimation	oh	[03:07]
decimation	that should be like 1 amp of ac	[03:08]
decimation	why do you need 10?	[03:08]
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dub	I only have 10 of AC, a small generator	[03:08]
decimation	if it's putting out 10 amps at 230 volts you are fine	[03:09]
kakobrekla	2300w vs 240w	[03:09]
kakobrekla	+-	[03:09]
decimation	is it a linear supply or switching supply?	[03:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00094821 = 19.4383 BTC [+] {4}	[03:10]
mircea_popescu	diametric "here's how i try to inject myself in stuff that has nothing to do with me over 5k words. call me michael moore"	[03:10]
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decimation	if it is a switching supply and your generator puts out crap AC, you might ruin the dc supply	[03:11]
mircea_popescu	in any event, violence is not a "problem". it's required, like breathing.	[03:11]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: was it you who had a piece about 'temperature' ?	[03:12]
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asciilifeform	(as in simulated annealing)	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	perhaps not ?	[03:12]
asciilifeform	but re: society and 'hormesis' of theft	[03:12]
asciilifeform	;;ud hormesis	[03:13]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hormesis \| trending. white dragon breath · surfboard · thot · tittybong · neknominate · lumpatious · poopsterbate · fap · bae · thought blocked. categories. gaming · sports ...	[03:13]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: hormesis	[03:13]
asciilifeform	bah	[03:13]
decimation	as in a little radiation is good for you?	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	well this is all too vague to pinpoint.	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	decimation no, as in a little fucking and public speaking is required for adults.	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	even if you don't make either your life calling.	[03:14]
asciilifeform	yeah in this particular case, this.	[03:14]
asciilifeform	a common criticism of mr moldy (whose every published word, to my shame, i read) is that his entire philosophy seems to reduce to 'the crown exists to guard my suburban house against evil ape men'	[03:15]
asciilifeform	to be fair, 'truth in advertising' - 'mencius'	[03:15]
decimation	which would be awesome for him, but it's not going to happen	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	i dunno why this fear of other people seriously.	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	there's this generation of nuts that fears its own shadow. cops ? hoprrible. the sec ? omaigawd. black kids ? HALP HALP	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	i wonder how they manage to brush teeth.	[03:16]
asciilifeform	in their guarded enclaves?	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	what if the tootbrush gives them an evil look one day ?	[03:16]
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mircea_popescu	i mean, even in the middle of an armed rebellion/invasion your chances to be plugged are what, 1% ?	[03:17]
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decimation	it does seem that paranoia is the mood of our age	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	syria casualties are 100k over 22mn.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	that fails to be a 1%	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile they play dice for a 2% house edge. that's okay.	[03:18]
asciilifeform	this is a psychiatric, not political, phenomenon.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	planes are dangerous, see ? cars are fine.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	they should put wheels on the fucking airplane seats.	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	kids would love them	[03:19]
decimation	somehow the risk aversion circuit has gone haywire?	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	decimation guess why ?	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	kid regularly beaten is not affraid of the world.	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	kid that's never been beaten ? nuts.	[03:19]
asciilifeform	;;google axenic mouse	[03:19]
gribble	Axenic mice model.: ; Axenic service - Infrafrontier: ; EMMA axenic (germ-free) service - Infrafrontier:	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	the romans had the following problem to sexual fixations in pubers : exposure.	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	apparently you can't get a fetish going if you get to see the actual object, in all its nude glory.	[03:20]
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mircea_popescu	experience, direct experience, remains the best cure for mental dysfunction.	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform pretty much	[03:21]
decimation	the parents I know who pratice physical punishment have the most well-adjusted children	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	it doesn't even have to be all that present, but human beings need experiences, and a balanced diet thereof.	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	if you've never been punched in the face your reptillian brain builds this thing into an endless colossus. if you have, whatever. maybe you lose a tooth, your lip gets swollen. so what of it ?	[03:22]
mircea_popescu	this works across the board, currently the biggest deterrent to nuclear detonation isn't a bunch of fucktarded chicks that drink tea and blather like sheep. it's simply the desire on all parties that invested billions in these things to avoid proving to the general public that... big fucking deal.	[03:23]
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mircea_popescu	as long as nobody uses them it's "those incredibly, exceedingly, unrepresentably powerful weapons". after a dozen or so pop it's like... those very expensive, inaccurate things.	[03:23]
decimation	indeed, nuclear bombs aren't nearly as dangerous as people like to believe	[03:23]
mircea_popescu	and as the countries spending billions on them like the people to continue to believe.	[03:24]
decimation	https://www.fourmilab.ch/bombcalc/	[03:24]
ozbot	Nuclear Bomb Effects Computer	[03:24]
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joecool	decimation: but napalm is cheap	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	joecool napalm is mostly oil. thats cheap now ?	[03:25]
decimation	carpet bombing with napalm would probably be far worse for the average citizen than a nuke going off	[03:25]
joecool	mircea_popescu: compared to nuclear weapons? sure	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	joecool that can't be right, mostly because nuclear power is economical as compared to burning oil.	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	the problem is surface, for both of you.	[03:26]
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asciilifeform	the fuel in a 'fire job' (as curtis lemay called it) is the kindling you blast the buildings into during the prelude	[03:26]
asciilifeform	not the napalm per se	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	it's all described in this ancient trilema article http://trilema.com/2011/radiatia-si-corpul-omenesc/	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	but fundamentally : every mile you walk adds more than a square mile to the area you've covered.	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	like the problem of finding that plane : it only flew what, 500 miles ?	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	well that's 250`000 square miles to look over.	[03:28]
decimation	yeah, you can't carpet-nuke that kind of area	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	and this if you roughly know the direction. if you don't....	[03:28]
asciilifeform	incidentally, inverse-square effect is why icbms switched to 'mirv' (multiple warhead) systems instead of one fat bomb.	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	^	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	and even that, it's what... a hack.	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	does little really	[03:29]
decimation	this article has a pretty good map http://theaviationist.com/2014/03/22/satellite-china-new-debris/	[03:29]
asciilifeform	well, you can mostly level a megapolis, if you have reasonably-accurate targeting	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform let's play with math. latent heat for water is what, 12k, +4k per degree.	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	so if you want to boil up afghanistan, you're looking at	[03:30]
asciilifeform	why boil the sea. so wasteful. let's do 'great lakes.'	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 500000 * 10*6 50 * (80 *4000 + 12000)	[03:31]
gribble	8300000000000000000	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	that's a quantity of joules.	[03:31]
decimation	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Peacekeeper-missile-testing.jpg	[03:31]
asciilifeform	(incidentally, vladimir chelomei suggested exactly this.)	[03:31]
asciilifeform	decimation: that's a famous picture. but - it's a long exposure.	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 8300000000000000000 / (6.1178632 * 10 ** 9)	[03:31]
gribble	1356682836.58	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 1356682836.58 * 100 / 500	[03:32]
gribble	271336567.316	[03:32]
decimation	(8 300 000 000 000 000 000 joules) / (1 ton of tnt) =1.98374761 × 109	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	cost 271mn btc to burn up afghanistan.	[03:32]
asciilifeform	lol	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	totally worth it right ?	[03:32]
asciilifeform	i also recall that there was a rather serious problem with 'warhead fratricide'	[03:33]
decimation	that's 200 10 megaton nukes	[03:33]
asciilifeform	neutrons from neighbouring blasts would prematurely pop the fissile initiator of a given piece	[03:33]
mircea_popescu	yeah that's a problem.	[03:33]
asciilifeform	if i recall, this was solved with some clever finesse (entirely absent in english language literature, afaik) with neutron tubes:	[03:34]
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mircea_popescu	and the thing with megalopolis-oi. cairo yes, cause it's shit. but most modern people live spaced out.	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	europe is pretty much one single urban area by now	[03:34]
asciilifeform	primary was shaped in such a way that it needed 1) the explosive compression and, 2) a certain blast from neutron generator tube - to pop - and (2) would vary in strength based on background	[03:35]
decimation	well, the other point is that if the goal of your war is to capture the enemy's resources, destroying those brains in the cities is the way to defeat your own purpose	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	seems more practical to just start a facebook campaign	[03:36]
decimation	indeed.	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	which brings us exactly to why bitcoin is so important.	[03:37]
asciilifeform	the folks who originally built these things weren't hoping to conquer anything. they were satisfied with the idea of: glass parking lots, free of untermenschen.	[03:37]
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decimation	in retrospect, that seems like a big joke	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	that's the chief value of retrospect	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	extracts the jokes	[03:43]
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decimation	like in what respect would the us free of cities be valuable?	[03:43]
decimation	are you going to mine some coal and grow corn?	[03:43]
decimation	what's the point? they will do that today in exchange for little green peices of fabric	[03:43]
asciilifeform	decimation: in what sense is the corpse of the fellow you plug in a duel valuable?	[03:43]
asciilifeform	you - him, so he couldn't you.	[03:43]
decimation	a trophy I guess	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform a duel eh ?	[03:45]
nubbins`	phew	[03:45]
nubbins`	long day	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	the ukrainians called a general mobilisation, nobody showed.	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	what duel ?	[03:45]
decimation	in a duel, you can be certain about the death of the enemy; not so much against the nuclear triad	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	if the russians invade alaska the us citizenry would flock there mostly to tweet about it	[03:45]
decimation	that logic more than anything explains the lack of nuclear exchange, in my opinion	[03:45]
decimation	there would be concern about the rights of the eskimos	[03:46]
asciilifeform	somebody should print cloth crib sheets, like the maps given to british officers during the war, but for americans. contents: 'don't shoot - i know secrets!' in 30 languages.	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	"don't shoot or i'll unfollow you"	[03:47]
asciilifeform	lol	[03:47]
nubbins`	heh.	[03:47]
joecool	+1	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	"i like your nonshooting of myself truly"	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	"dead men wash no dishes" / "dead women suck no cock"	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	there's plenty.	[03:47]
asciilifeform	oldie but goodie. orlov on twittards / silicon valley / etc. -	[03:48]
asciilifeform	http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/07/dead-souls.html	[03:48]
ozbot	ClubOrlov: Dead Souls	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	and with that i'll bid you all a very good nuclear summer!	[03:49]
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mircea_popescu	MisterE except the only exchange owner we know is me, and so i guess you can use trilema for that purpose.	[13:05]
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mircea_popescu	MisterE: LTC on Huobi dump destroyed a lot of n00bs who could have been milked for years instead of in one big dump but nobody thinks long-term << no, you don't understand. destroying scams IS thinking long term.	[13:06]
mircea_popescu	this isn't supposed to be a "milking noobs for years" thing, and it's not supposed to be either accessible to or productive for the sort of car salesman that thinks himself a financier now.	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	so in general expect pump and dumps to be punctured randomly and outside of the originator's control going forward, so as to hurt the originator and his friends.	[13:07]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13680 @ 0.00095045 = 13.0022 BTC [-] {2}	[13:10]
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chetty	Russia has amassed enough forces on Ukraine’s border to reach the dispute region of Transnistria, NATO’s top military commander told a conference in Brussels on Sunday, Reuters reported.	[13:23]
mircea_popescu	or, for that matter, paris.	[13:24]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell heysteve2 "I believe every caller on talk radio, just like I believe every story on zh." << there you go. it's like playboy forum by now.	[13:30]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[13:30]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2487 @ 0.00013 = 0.3233 BTC [-] {4}	[13:33]
Neil	Geez the last 60 blocks have been in half-time	[13:33]
mircea_popescu	;;estimate	[13:34]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 4939815404.41 based on data since last change \| 5576146819.12 based on data for last three days	[13:34]
mircea_popescu	whoa.	[13:34]
Neil	.d	[13:34]
ozbot	4.250 billion \| Next Diff in 278 blocks \| Estimated Change: 16.1945% in 1d 14h 41m 28s	[13:34]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin network, always surprising.	[13:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3459 @ 0.00047535 = 1.6442 BTC [-] {5}	[13:35]
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Neil	At some stage people are gonna stop throwing money at mining. Amazes me how long it's taking though.	[13:35]
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Neil	Just difficulty stabilization is gonna be a minor supply shock in bitcoin land.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	that's why the throwing money isn't stopping, i'd guess.	[13:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.05933366 = 0.356 BTC [-] {4}	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, the us spends what, 100bn on defense a year ?	[13:36]
Neil	mircea_popescu: And prices are down 50%. I'd have expected that to be a damper.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is much more than the us, why shouldn't it spend much more ?	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	i don't think anyone cares about the spot	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	which explains why we have such a shitty spot	[13:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.062 = 0.372 BTC [-] {3}	[13:37]
Neil	Miners must do, unless they're spending savings and not selling what they mine	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 10**11 / 365 / 24 / 60 / 6	[13:37]
gribble	31709.7919838	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	31k spent per block	[13:37]
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mircea_popescu	;;calc 31/25	[13:37]
gribble	1.24	[13:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.11950724 = 0.717 BTC [-]	[13:38]
mircea_popescu	fun fact : any point btc is over 1240 usd, the bitcoin network is spending more for its own security than the united states government spends on defense.	[13:38]
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Neil	10**11 is what, 100 billion?	[13:38]
Neil	They spend more than that no?	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	bout there, 100ish.	[13:39]
Neil	Your calc is wrong	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	they ususally are	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	what'd i do this time ?	[13:40]
Neil	60/6 should be (60/6)	[13:40]
Neil	;;calc 10**11 / 365 / 24 / 10	[13:40]
gribble	1141552.51142	[13:40]
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mircea_popescu	awww	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	but right you are!	[13:41]
Neil	;;calc 10**11 / 365 / 24 / 6 rather	[13:41]
gribble	Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1)	[13:41]
Neil	;;calc 10**11 / 365 / 24 / 6	[13:41]
gribble	1902587.51903	[13:41]
Neil	;;calc 10**11 / 365 / 24 / 6 / 25	[13:41]
gribble	76103.500761	[13:41]
Neil	So $76k per coin	[13:41]
Neil	If it gets to $76k I'm long retired on a sunny island	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	im not.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 60 / 6 / (60/6)	[13:43]
gribble	1	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	um...	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	so then 60 / 6 = (60 / 6) ?	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	whereas!	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	;;calc (1/60 / 6) / (1/ (60/6))	[13:44]
gribble	0.0277777777778	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	whereas	[13:44]
Neil	But I'll still log on to bitcoin-assets from said sunny island, I promise!	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 76103.500761 / 1.24	[13:44]
gribble	61373.7909363	[13:44]
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Neil	mircea_popescu: Judging from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States and adding 3 yrs of inflation I think we're closer to 10 ** 12.	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	i recall recently seeing the us budget, and it was 100ish	[13:46]
Neil	Call it $500k per BTC.	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	and you don't ADD inflation, because you're not in 2009 dollars today.	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	you substract inflation from the 2009 figures	[13:46]
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Neil	I'm sure they're spending more not less.	[13:47]
MisterE	not calling the whole LTC on Huobi thing a scam just very heavily manipulated but all markets are manipulated so... The writing was on the wall for me luckily I guess.	[13:47]
MisterE	And I mean the "milking the n00bs" coment tongue in cheek	[13:47]
MisterE	meant*	[13:47]
Neil	What's been happening with LTC? Still at 0.027-20.028; what's changed?	[13:47]
MisterE	15.65 lol	[13:47]
Neil	0.027-0.028	[13:47]
MisterE	dead calm	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	Neil fuck me you're right http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/presidential-budget-2015/	[13:48]
midnightmagic	mikaeldi1e mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio_	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	MisterE im just a hater	[13:48]
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mircea_popescu	;;calc 495.6 * 10**9 / 365 / 24 / 6 / 25	[13:49]
gribble	377168.949772	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	that's the official, definitive, correct figure. 377k.	[13:49]
Neil	Someone's added some fsck-off hashpower to the network in the last 2 days.	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[13:49]
Neil	They're coming out every 5mins on average.	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	the us and the chinese :D	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	gotta spend that half trn somehow	[13:49]
MisterE	what are you hating on MP?	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	tongue in cheek comment!	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	see, you can't spot them either!	[13:50]
*	MisterE here you go: http://imgur.com/gallery/wmHpE	[13:50]
MisterE	:p	[13:50]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell asciilifeform "Social networking and mobile computing are hot" dude this orlov guy...	[13:53]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[13:53]
Duffer1	MP link?	[13:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 328 @ 0.000835 = 0.2739 BTC [-]	[13:55]
mircea_popescu	http://cluborlov.blogspot.ro/2011/07/dead-souls.html	[13:55]
ozbot	ClubOrlov: Dead Souls	[13:55]
Duffer1	you've mentioned orlov a few times	[13:55]
Duffer1	thanks	[13:55]
mircea_popescu	some strange ideas in there, and most of it oldman nonsense. there's no absolute limit to physical development.	[13:56]
Duffer1	oh is he the fuffles guy?	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	and no, i don't mention him, other people keep mentioning him, like herbi and ascii. i thnk he's mostly clueless and generally vain.	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	bezzle / fuffel ? yeah	[13:56]
Duffer1	i see	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	tho both concepts are in general currency ( http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2008/12/16/madoff-galbraith-and-the-bezzle/ )	[13:57]
mircea_popescu	and i don't think orlov even uses the latter, just, a current russian expression ascii explained in english at some point	[13:57]
mircea_popescu	i suppose properly bezzle should be traced back to gailbrath, cca 1929	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	galbraith*	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	anyway, turns out this was obviously not a serious piece, so i guess teaches me to protest before finishing an article.	[14:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.059394 = 0.1188 BTC [+] {2}	[14:09]
Neil	Well BTC > $10k bet suddenly became lopsided this week.	[14:15]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 72 @ 0.00546 = 0.3931 BTC [-]	[14:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0061001 = 0.61 BTC [-]	[14:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.639001 BTC [-]	[14:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 287 @ 0.00526144 = 1.51 BTC [-] {9}	[14:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10515 @ 0.00095174 = 10.0075 BTC [+]	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	http://imgur.com/gallery/eOeppfc	[14:39]
ozbot	Bill Cosby speaking the truf. Bippity Bop - Imgur	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	Neil yeah heavy on no nao	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=520882.msg5854744#msg5854744	[14:40]
ozbot	Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	owch	[14:40]
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mircea_popescu	jurov so is fico winning ?	[14:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07270326 = 0.1454 BTC [-]	[14:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37250 @ 0.0009527 = 35.4881 BTC [+] {4}	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	;;google famous jewish rabies	[15:25]
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gribble	Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Jewish history/Archive 4 - Wikipedia, the ...: ; Ayatollah Ali Khamenei: Israel Is a 'Rabid Dog' \| Jewish ... - Algemeiner: ; JCR-UK - Susser Archive - History of the (1 more message)	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/heres-a-thought-being-bitcoin-is-more-of-a-something-to-be-than-being-jewish-ever-was-or-could-ever-be/	[15:27]
ozbot	Here’s a thought : being Bitcoin is more of a something to be than being Jewish ever was or could	[15:27]
MisterE	haha and BCF hate at the end love it	[15:30]
MisterE	I dont go on bitcointalk forum much such a time sink	[15:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.639 = 5.112 BTC [-]	[15:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62000005 = 1.24 BTC [-] {2}	[15:40]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49574 @ 0.00095281 = 47.2346 BTC [+] {4}	[15:59]
ThickAsThieves	Someone's added some fsck-off hashpower to the network in the last 2 days. /// probly ASICMINER stuff	[16:07]
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VanCleef	nah not asicminer	[16:12]
VanCleef	they're dying	[16:12]
artifexd	ThickAsThieves Do you know anyone running the altcoin testnet that I can connect to?	[16:12]
ThickAsThieves	i dont think anyone runs one	[16:13]
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mircea_popescu	pretty sure blue matt was at some point	[16:14]
artifexd	lol	[16:14]
artifexd	I guess I get to test code in production, as it were.	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	hearn did it...	[16:15]
artifexd	That doesn't make it a good idea.	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	you don't say ?!	[16:15]
artifexd	I do say!	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	no but srsly, i can't believe they'd have stopped the testnet	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	ask in #bitcoin-dev for some testcoins or something	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	or, alternatively, use the ATC newtork, it's a direct copy of bitcoin	[16:16]
artifexd	I don't want bitcoin testnet. I want altcoin testnet.	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	i'll send you some atc if you can't work it out ah	[16:16]
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mircea_popescu	oh nm me i completely misread.	[16:16]
kakobreklaa	you wont really cause pankkake ripped you	[16:16]
Apocalyptic	he did ?	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	kakobreklaa sheeeit	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	dude ran o0ff with my altcoinz ?!	[16:17]
pankkake	I am alive	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	o hey there.	[16:17]
pankkake	hello	[16:17]
kakobreklaa	kanzure Keefe Ken` kermit khersonus kill-9all knotwork Kromulus KRS-One Kushed	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	kakobreklaa see ? slander again.	[16:17]
kakobreklaa	i take it back.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	pankkake you ok ?	[16:17]
pankkake	I'll be more available in a few days	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	no emergency, relax.	[16:17]
kakobreklaa	its not slander if you miss someone!	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	slanderlove	[16:17]
pankkake	yeah, very tired and irlbusy these last few weeks	[16:18]
pankkake	e-mail is sure to reach me	[16:18]
ThickAsThieves	artifexd, may I ask whatcha working on?	[16:18]
artifexd	atcdice.com	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	o hey.	[16:19]
ThickAsThieves	sweet	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	all the fun of gambling with none of the bitcoin downside!!11	[16:19]
pankkake	artifexd: I don't think there ever was a altcoin testnet. if it's configured in the code, you can start it yourself I guess!	[16:19]
ThickAsThieves	lemme know if you need help of any of the kinds i might be able to provide	[16:19]
artifexd	There's a testnet checkpoint at block 546 (or somewhere thereabouts).	[16:20]
pankkake	ouch, it's wrong then	[16:20]
artifexd	I may have to just reset the genesis block and remove the checkpoints and start mining it myself.	[16:20]
artifexd	Difficulty should be low. :)	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:21]
ThickAsThieves	why isn't Homeland Security part of the Defense budget?	[16:21]
nubbins`	it's worked into the Offense budget	[16:22]
chetty	offensive	[16:22]
pankkake	if you make it I'll merge your genesis block/checkpoints	[16:22]
MisterE	homeland sec doesn't include all law enforcement either	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves because otherwise all their unjustifiable expenses stand out as a sore thumb	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	there was a rash of reporting their haliburtonesque mismanagement of resources in 2002-2003	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	it's meanwhile disappeared, but the problem's only gotten worse.	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	in many ways the usg is much like a bitcointalk investor : can't get anything done because surrounded by thieves	[16:24]
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MisterE	the leaked "black budget" gave us a bit more insight and you can extrapolate how they compartmentalize from there	[16:25]
ThickAsThieves	look we cut Defense spending by .1%! Ignore that Homeland Security part.	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[16:26]
MisterE	the pieces of the pie they argue over that include social services are definitely the small ones.	[16:26]
MisterE	no budget has ever included the 10 years war(s)	[16:26]
MisterE	wait Obama did in his first	[16:26]
ThickAsThieves	so basically the budgets represent each of the USG's corporations, not actual categories	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	pretty much	[16:29]
MisterE	too bad that SEC layer didnt come to IRC :)	[16:33]
MisterE	lawyer*	[16:33]
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VanCleef	anybods find this useful? - http://www.google.com/finance	[16:34]
ThickAsThieves	as useful as any google search i guess	[16:34]
ThickAsThieves	you can look up tickers n stuff	[16:34]
VanCleef	i just found it a few days ago, made a portfolio, its pretty neat	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	just as useful as any free market data service	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	msn has one, yahoo has one, bloomberg has one	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	and i think there's more.	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	MisterE time's not ended yet.	[16:35]
VanCleef	do you invest irl shares/securties mircea?	[16:36]
MisterE	oh I'm pretty sure the SEC's network blocks the applet	[16:36]
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ThickAsThieves	neckbeard chic aka lumberjack couture http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/9407395264500502323	[16:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0009547 = 4.2962 BTC [+]	[16:38]
ThickAsThieves	an ad served while viewing zh ^	[16:38]
ThickAsThieves	god knows what i bought on online to deserve that	[16:38]
nubbins`	heh	[16:39]
nubbins`	i've seen frank & oak ads	[16:39]
ThickAsThieves	really i have nothing against his clothes	[16:40]
MisterE	are they like Carhart?	[16:40]
ThickAsThieves	just how they are being presented as 'style'	[16:40]
nubbins`	pair of dickies and a plaid shirt	[16:40]
nubbins`	STYLE	[16:40]
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ThickAsThieves	i guess if it aint nude, it's stylish	[16:41]
MisterE	back in the 60s people had style	[16:41]
MisterE	sharkskin jackets	[16:41]
MisterE	Rat Pack	[16:41]
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ThickAsThieves	i'm sure there are plenty people with style still	[16:42]
ThickAsThieves	just the ones on tv are mostly just gay-with-clothes-on	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	i'm no one to talk though	[16:44]
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ThickAsThieves	i'd wear the same thing every day if people stopped fixating on that being weird	[16:44]
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MisterE	heh true gay people and many black people have style	[16:44]
MisterE	guess I dont get out much	[16:44]
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Mats_cd03	scrub	[16:45]
nubbins`	normcore	[16:45]
VanCleef	do you think its because every black person is secretly gay? (no homo)	[16:47]
heat	is that why	[16:47]
heat	they all	[16:47]
Mats_cd03	no, its social norms	[16:47]
heat	got the moves?	[16:47]
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Mats_cd03	men on the extreme ends of perceived sexual norms (e.g. black vs asians in the media) seem to have fewer problems with dressing fashionably	[16:49]
Mats_cd03	(in my experience)	[16:49]
artifexd	lemme know if you need help of any of the kinds i might be able to provide << I missed that. My response: Thanks! I will.	[16:49]
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nubbins`	i think you guys hang around normals too much	[16:49]
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ThickAsThieves	artifexd, mostly that'd be design or funding, not sure what other relevant skills i might have to an atcdice	[16:50]
ThickAsThieves	no, black people caring about fashion has nothing to do with homosexuality	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	VanCleef sometimes.	[16:51]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves the "under $50" part i find the most objectionable.	[16:52]
VanCleef	ahh cool	[16:52]
Mats_cd03	^lol	[16:52]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[16:52]
ThickAsThieves	must have cash left over to buy an axe	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves what'd you wear every day anyway ? velve ?	[16:53]
ThickAsThieves	whats a velve?	[16:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55744 @ 0.00095182 = 53.0583 BTC [-] {2}	[16:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07299999 = 0.365 BTC [+]	[16:53]
ThickAsThieves	;;google velve	[16:53]
gribble	VELVE OLED - Technology \| Verbatim: ; Velve: ; ////// VELVE ////// female singer / songwriter //////:	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	velvet!	[16:53]
ThickAsThieves	lol no	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	don' discriminae me because i got a broken mister	[16:54]
ThickAsThieves	generally i already do wear the same thing every day already	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	o shi i worked ha ime	[16:54]
ThickAsThieves	just change the colors and patterns	[16:54]
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VanCleef	what labels do you wear tat?	[16:54]
ThickAsThieves	when you start wearing neutral or black every day, that's when people start to notice	[16:54]
ThickAsThieves	i'm not even morbid	[16:55]
ThickAsThieves	i just would wear black every day probly though	[16:55]
ThickAsThieves	except in the sun	[16:55]
ThickAsThieves	that's hot	[16:55]
ThickAsThieves	i dont look at labels much	[16:55]
ThickAsThieves	if it looks like i might wear it, i buy it	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	;;google man in black	[16:56]
gribble	Men in Black (1997) - IMDb: ; Men in Black - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Men in Black (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:	[16:56]
ThickAsThieves	i'm overdue for new wardrobe though	[16:56]
VanCleef	judging from mirceas pics he seems to have a good taste in clothes	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	not men in black you ebonicsipidia you.	[16:56]
ThickAsThieves	yeah mp knows how to dress	[16:56]
ThickAsThieves	i also happen to think Johnny Cash is pretty cool	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	me too.	[16:57]
VanCleef	yeah johnny cash is cool	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	minus all the xtian bs.	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	but what do you want, bloke lived in teh south and his first wife died when he was what, 17 ?	[16:57]
VanCleef	robert smith is pretty cool too	[16:58]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[16:58]
ThickAsThieves	he made some cool music at least	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	he ruled, you kidding me ?	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	i'll never forget how he owned those clowny kids	[16:59]
ThickAsThieves	http://purefilmcreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/robert-smith.jpg	[16:59]
ThickAsThieves	i dont now much about the man	[16:59]
ThickAsThieves	other than looking ridiculous and making cool music	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	compare nine inch nail hurt with cash hurt	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	then consider it was supposed to be THEIR signature song.	[16:59]
VanCleef	nin hurt is a pretty terrible song, wiash cash didn't cover it	[17:00]
ThickAsThieves	i was referring to smith	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	this is the furthers out case of musical and generally artistic ownage i know of	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	bar non.	[17:00]
ThickAsThieves	yes, cash Hurt is way better	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	o o	[17:00]
VanCleef	it was a good cover tho	[17:00]
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mircea_popescu	why did the cure go to shit btw ?	[17:01]
ThickAsThieves	what better swan song could the guy have had?	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	i forget	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	yeah absolutely.	[17:01]
VanCleef	did they go to shit? lol i think they just got old	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile, disco : http://25.media.tumblr.com/850ca39c3e1d800cca5a39aae1566e36/tumblr_mlqxxru0KR1rztzruo1_1280.jpg	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	i seem to remember some acrimony	[17:02]
VanCleef	nice pic	[17:03]
ThickAsThieves	an odd thing about goth/industrial/rapcore fans from the 80s/90s is they never seem able to shake it	[17:03]
VanCleef	heh	[17:03]
ThickAsThieves	they still wear cargo jeans and band t-shirts	[17:03]
ThickAsThieves	and are generally depressed	[17:03]
ThickAsThieves	maybe it was the drugs	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	maybe it was the last generation that had any unobstructed view of us reality.	[17:04]
VanCleef	music is really terrible these days	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	ie, it IS the drugs, but the other way around.	[17:04]
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ThickAsThieves	hehe i'm wearing a band tshirt and all black right now, i guess i should shut up	[17:05]
ThickAsThieves	except mine is Kid Dynamite	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	i've never wore a band tshirt	[17:05]
ThickAsThieves	you were never in a band	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	i... hm. i produced a few bands / concerts ?	[17:05]
VanCleef	really?	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	including a... rave ;/	[17:06]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[17:06]
VanCleef	lol	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	in like 96 iirc	[17:06]
ThickAsThieves	never been to a rave	[17:06]
VanCleef	that's funny	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	i can't even recall wtf it was called.	[17:06]
ThickAsThieves	Tits or GTFO Dance Party	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	anyway, this is all bs weirdo romanian stuff, it shouldn't really count.	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	more like comedic relief.	[17:07]
VanCleef	you produced gwar didn't u?	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves at the end there was about 1 ton of paper residue, 1/4 ton of textile residue taken from the grounds	[17:07]
ThickAsThieves	i went to see Gwar	[17:07]
ThickAsThieves	was kinda fun	[17:07]
VanCleef	aha	[17:07]
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ThickAsThieves	wtf is textile residue? clothes caked into the paper?	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	unidentified bits of what probably were clothes	[17:08]
ThickAsThieves	how many rapes?	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	none reported.	[17:09]
MisterE	it	[17:09]
MisterE	it's tropical here so I wear as little as possible and there's no style there heh	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	where you at, jamaica ?	[17:11]
mircea_popescu	ow shit, i just gave bill cosby a problem huh ?	[17:11]
mircea_popescu	but i happen to think some bits of black vernacular are expressive. i use ain't all the time.	[17:12]
mircea_popescu	people around me end up using it too	[17:12]
mircea_popescu	it's catchy namean ?	[17:12]
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MisterE	catchy, ain't it?	[17:14]
artifexd	"ain't" is black vernacular? I thought it was southern venacular. Source: I grew up in Texas.	[17:14]
ThickAsThieves	black and hip hop culture might be the most vibrant source of new vernacular in the world	[17:14]
MisterE	^	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	artifexd well this is in reference to an earlier bill cosby imgur	[17:15]
ThickAsThieves	you cannot keep up if you arent paying attention for even a year	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves nah, that's only because you don't speak either russian or fringe chinese/indian languages	[17:15]
ThickAsThieves	maybe'	[17:15]
MisterE	funny to see whitey suburbanite kids co-opt it so quickly now	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	but that said, it's certainly productive.	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	and more interestingly so than the white equivalent, dearly loved as "pc speak"	[17:15]
ThickAsThieves	bih went in, ish goes hard	[17:16]
heat	dont start no ish	[17:16]
heat	wont be no ish	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	artifexd well maybe. i am no expert :p	[17:16]
MisterE	artifexd: I did a stretch in Denton and SA	[17:17]
artifexd	SA?	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	does that mean you were in prison there ?	[17:17]
MisterE	San Anton	[17:17]
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mircea_popescu	san antonio is like my favourite us city.	[17:17]
ThickAsThieves	around here the old timers in the local black "ghetto" are nearly incoherent	[17:17]
MisterE	it's prety good	[17:17]
MisterE	but Bexar county sucks	[17:17]
artifexd	Ah. I was up in the north east. More north east than Dallas. Damn near Arkansas.	[17:17]
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nubbins`	around here the old timers in the local white "ghetto" are completely incoherent	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	MisterE the fact that i spent a week doing nothing but champagne on the riverwalk may well have colored that impression :p	[17:18]
nubbins`	overheard a guy talking to his father about getting his roof fixed	[17:18]
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nubbins`	"aeh eh uhhh ehh fuckin... euhhh..."	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	but this is canadians	[17:18]
MisterE	yes riverwalk is fantastic	[17:18]
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mircea_popescu	that's not language, that's gesturing psychopathy	[17:18]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu that's a direct quote ;(	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	imagine canadian forums	[17:19]
nubbins`	he was looking for the word "roof"	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	someone should make a purported canadian forum like that just to mess with people	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	megatroll sting operation.	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	san antonio is like my favourite us city. /// is that the place in your mystery photo on trilema?	[17:19]
nubbins`	;;google montreal forum	[17:19]
gribble	Montreal Forum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Forum de Montreal: ; The Forum Opens its Doors \| Historical Website of the Montreal ...:	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves which one of the numerous mystery trilema photos	[17:19]
MisterE	Culturally Austin has more to offer	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	one of a bridge and some buildings	[17:19]
MisterE	imho	[17:20]
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mircea_popescu	;/ link ?	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	shit i dunno, i made some guesses at the time in here	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	well i lost the pointer	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	well not at the time you published, i think it was older	[17:20]
MisterE	canadian forums must be a minimum of 35% canadian or they will do something	[17:20]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, it was funny, i was wearing a suit, struck up a conversation with a band in a bar,	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	then people from the bar were coming to me to ask me to ask the band to play songs	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	then the band wanted to sign me up as their manager	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	then we had breakfast at dennys	[17:21]
MisterE	Moon over My Hammy?	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	nah it was some rock and roll ish thing	[17:21]
MisterE	thats they one I used to get man Dennys that takes me back	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	blond lead vocal guy couldn't quite decide if he wanted to do an elvis impersonation or not	[17:22]
mircea_popescu	o, that was my only one time in that chain, i have no idea what they serve	[17:22]
MisterE	ok back to movie, GF watching Psycho for first time	[17:22]
MisterE	I'd forgotten a lot	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	you dating 16yos ?	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	(and the 1960s vera miles version i hope?)	[17:23]
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kakobreklaa	http://vircurex.com/welcome/ann_reserved.html	[17:40]
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ThickAsThieves	3rd time's a charm	[17:51]
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mircea_popescu	heh.	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	aren;'t these the guys that stole the "investors" equity to cover for the previous time they got owned ?	[17:51]
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Apocalyptic	[16:51:46] aren;'t these the guys that stole the "investors" equity to cover for the previous time they got owned ? I believe they are	[18:27]
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knotwork	Yeah I heard they covered the losses with money from investors. Maybe the investors didnt like that and now want to drive away all customers so the place gets no business and has to shut down	[18:35]
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mircea_popescu	or maybe they just have a dartboard and throw darts at it each day	[18:38]
chetty	well can we turn some of these scammer into dartboards?	[18:39]
Apocalyptic	I remember that big miner mining at Eligius praising vircurex and recommending it for trading NMC	[18:39]
Apocalyptic	cause "they've been around for quite some time you know"	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	derp.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	so has goat. so has gigavps. so has teh bitcoin foundation. around scamming for quite some time now.	[18:40]
Apocalyptic	indeed	[18:41]
Apocalyptic	gigavps even has the guts to come to -otc sometimes	[18:41]
kakobrekla	goat is going to sue garr now	[18:41]
kakobrekla	"your honor, garr failed to deliver the pump."	[18:42]
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mike_c	is this over their mining thing?	[18:42]
kakobrekla	yea	[18:42]
mike_c	but but, last I read everything was going great and they were picking up their hardware! i haven't followed the thread recently i guess :)	[18:43]
kakobrekla	the thing went bad over half a year ago	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	yeah, he was going to sue pirate, he is going to sue garr,	[18:43]
kakobrekla	or its just me who can smell the shit early	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	before that back in 2012 he was going to post pics of his mining farm	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	he's a going-to kind of guy.	[18:43]
kakobrekla	ofc he wont, i phrased it wrong	[18:44]
Apocalyptic	kako the shit-smeller , dat title	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:44]
kakobrekla	fuck what have i brought on myself	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	Tic the shit-senser	[18:44]
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mircea_popescu	lmao	[18:45]
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mircea_popescu	ooo what is that flash ?!	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	hm... what were we talking about ?	[18:45]
kakobrekla	yeah, much better than pdf	[18:45]
mike_c	we were talking about sending our btc to kako for a new mining venture.	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	does pdf stand for pedophile ?	[18:46]
thestringpuller	use latex at least...	[18:46]
kakobrekla	but what does flash stand for then	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	hm	[18:46]
kakobrekla	the question that ended -assets.	[18:48]
kakobrekla	tumbleweed	[18:48]
bounce	flash! ah-haa!	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	can you imagine how shocked the aliens/reptillians/illuminati/etc watching this will be	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	if one day it just... ends.	[18:49]
VanCleef	i read mircea's blog sometimes does anyone have any other handy reading material or youtube videos, doesn't have to be about bitcoin just something along the lines of investing	[18:49]
VanCleef	i'm just watching a bunch of mark cuban interviews	[18:50]
Duffer1	http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/	[18:50]
ozbot	Assets Assimilated	[18:50]
mike_c	last year's trilema :)	[18:51]
VanCleef	cool thanks Duffer1	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/letters.html	[18:52]
ozbot	Shareholder Letters	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	read that whole set, you'll be ahead of about half the group of folk that identify as finance-anythign	[18:52]
VanCleef	thank you mircea	[18:52]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: you still like Berkshire Hathaway despite Buffet's stance on BTC?	[18:54]
thestringpuller	you still respect* not like*	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	the letters are old, and as respectable as they ever were.	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	you think if i get alzhimers' when im 95 that'll change the 2013 articles on trilema in any way ?	[18:55]
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VanCleef	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU8KksjGB8s	[18:56]
ozbot	P Diddy's Words Of Wisdom - YouTube	[18:56]
thestringpuller	That's what I'd figure you'd say, and I expect you to be the only one in the nursing home flirting at 95...	[18:57]
mircea_popescu	well it ain't gonna suck itself...	[18:57]
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chetty	Turkish fighter jets shot down a Syrian warplane after it violated Turkey’s airspace Sunday	[18:58]
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cads	mircea_popescu: who/what turned you on to reading the berkshire letters?	[19:07]
cads	another friend has suggested it but I haven't made time for it	[19:07]
ThickAsThieves	so, i am trying to repair a broken tablet lcd and my current problem is it is glued to the frame and i've no heat gun, nor is the sun particularly bright today	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	i can't even remember, i liked the guy since i was 14 or so	[19:08]
ThickAsThieves	any tips?	[19:08]
ThickAsThieves	or just go buy a heat gun	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	got a lens ?	[19:08]
ThickAsThieves	i have a magnifying lens for soldering	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	so try that on the sun. who knows.	[19:08]
asciilifeform	ThickAsThieves: hair dryer usually works.	[19:09]
asciilifeform	helps if you own an IR thermometer.	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	i do	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	that also.	[19:09]
thestringpuller	http://i.imgur.com/SN4UYEU.png - from da reddits	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	esp if you got a pro one.	[19:09]
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ThickAsThieves	any temp i should be going for?	[19:09]
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asciilifeform	depends on the glue, clearly	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	some kinda mobile device surgical glue or someshit	[19:10]
ThickAsThieves	i guess, til it's loose	[19:10]
asciilifeform	traditional method is to attach a suction cup	[19:10]
asciilifeform	to the screen	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/SgfBapJ.gif	[19:11]
asciilifeform	and suspend it a cm or so above the table, in a clamp, from said cup	[19:11]
asciilifeform	then heat.	[19:11]
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asciilifeform	http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2014/03/22/sinkhole-of-bureaucracy	[19:14]
ozbot	Sinkhole of bureaucracy \| The Washington Post	[19:14]
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benkay	so the girl draped some gauzy fabric in front of the apartment window; we verified that nobody can see in during the day, and now i'm at my standing desk aka the kitchen island shirt-cocking hard	[19:15]
benkay	it's glorious.	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	shirt-cocking ?!	[19:15]
benkay	;;ud shirt cocking	[19:15]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shirt%20cocking \| Men who go about their day with a shirt on, but no pants or underwear. "Cocking" can be used with other terms. Example: Cowl Cocking, when a man we...	[19:15]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: shirt cocking	[19:15]
benkay	cooking bacon too, you see.	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	i see	[19:17]
benkay	it seems that Vice is the only publication on the internet who've been able to implement a bootstrap header without totally fucking the page-down functionality of yore.	[19:20]
benkay	functionality my ux-perts tell me nobody uses any more.	[19:20]
benkay	"except people who read at a reasonable speed!"	[19:20]
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benkay	scrolling has to impose additional cognitive load.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	i use it.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	scrolling is not unlike the revolutionary notion of having sentences broken up on lines on the written page	[19:21]
ninjashogun	Hi guys.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	"but moving eyes from end to begin of line must add cognitive load"	[19:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.11950724 = 0.239 BTC [-]	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	turns out the brain is a pulse not a flux processor.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	it adds nothing.	[19:22]
ninjashogun!@	added to ignore list.	[19:22]
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benkay	really?	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	myeah	[19:22]
benkay	re lines that's been a staple for a good millenia or so tho	[19:23]
benkay	we've adapted.	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	plenty of "smarter than necessary" folk came up with lines that went 123 654 789 etc	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	somehow it didn't catch on.	[19:23]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.06199765 = 0.186 BTC [+] {2}	[19:24]
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mircea_popescu	and no, it's not that we've adapted to the lines. the lines are adapted to us.	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	this bullshit whereby a clueless shit will "invent" something and the world will "adapt" to it is sheer usinsanity.	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	i get it that impotence is a major problem there, both culturally and sexually, but that's scarcely an excuse.	[19:25]
benkay	(correction: vice hasn't fixed the pagedown)	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	vice doesn't really have much interest in making it easy for people to read, either,	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	seeing how the more people read the more their fixed costs go up.	[19:26]
thestringpuller	VICE is about reporters without borders!	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	now if they only could convince everyone that	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	BLERGH	[19:26]
asciilifeform	'maxmium of 200 herz' << this would be interesting if they fired in phase. which they don't.	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	is a perfectly fine article...	[19:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.062 = 0.124 BTC [+]	[19:28]
CheckDavid	mircea_popescu: you know breaking bad?	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	some sitcom thing ?	[19:29]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	jurov oh i see	[23:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05700005 = 0.114 BTC [-]	[23:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.057 = 0.912 BTC [-] {3}	[23:24]
Mats_cd03	http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/ippc-to-deliver-darkest-draft-yet/story-e6frg6so-1226862631968 via slashdot	[23:28]
ozbot	Cookies must be enabled. \| The Australian	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:28]
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mircea_popescu	jurov notrly ?	[23:39]
jurov	a donation addy	[23:39]
jurov	one kako did not knew about	[23:39]
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Apocalyptic	he claims the wp was hacked	[23:40]
dexX7	19 btc donated?	[23:40]
dexX7	https://blockchain.info/address/1B6NP9eb4RKy9tRrXYCJnNcenZkrt5Q2gb	[23:40]
ozbot	Bitcoin Address 1B6NP9eb4RKy9tRrXYCJnNcenZkrt5Q2gb	[23:40]
jurov	no that's the right one afaik	[23:41]
dexX7	that's the one linked at the bottom of the website	[23:41]
jurov	i had donated to 14uG7Qcu7riB9rthmmqjVVNn7gtGkZPFGC instead	[23:41]
jurov	kako fixed it	[23:41]
dexX7	ah	[23:41]
jurov	fortunately only 0.1	[23:42]
dexX7	i would worry more about a potential hack than 0.1 btc	[23:42]
jurov	BITCOIN-ASSETS LOGS STOLEN	[23:42]
dexX7	OMG	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	wait what ?!	[23:43]
dexX7	all teh gossip and slander available for the public!?	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	so how did the false addy end up there ?	[23:43]
jurov	last words were "still under investigation"	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	i did not know this.	[23:44]
Apocalyptic	dexX7, more like the logs could be edited, don't know to what extend it was compromised	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	so whichever of you guise did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mircea_Popescu i still think wikipedia sucks.	[23:47]
kakobrekla	the logs were not edited ( except for the shit-smeller part)	[23:47]
dexX7	Apocalyptic: good point	[23:47]
ninjashogun	it says there is no article of that name	[23:49]
ninjashogun	any of you familiar with the 'black swan' concept?	[23:50]
ninjashogun!@	added to ignore list.	[23:50]
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Mats_cd03	i fancy taleb myself but i find the concept unpalatable	[23:53]
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JorgePasada	mats_cd03 I think Taleb would have come off better if so much of his contempt for the people who laughed at him for being wrong all though the financial bubbles didn't seep through his writing. Great ideas, great thoughts/concepts, somewhat poorly presented.	[23:54]
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Mats_cd03	it is not repeatable, testable, or falsifiable	[23:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00299 = 0.4485 BTC [-] {3}	[23:55]
Mats_cd03	it doesnt pass a test of any rigor known by science	[23:55]
mike_c	kako said it was the akismet plugin for wordpress that allowed the hack.	[23:55]
Apocalyptic	hum, http://www.exploit-db.com/search/?action=search&filter_page=1&filter_description=akismet&filter_exploit_text=&filter_author=&filter_platform=0&filter_type=0&filter_lang_id=0&filter_port=&filter_osvdb=&filter_cve=	[23:56]
Apocalyptic	only one known exploit for this, and it's from 2007...	[23:56]
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CheckDavid	I need money to start a business.	[23:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0557 = 1.671 BTC [-]	[23:58]
Mats_cd03	i need business to start a money	[23:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23843 @ 0.00095123 = 22.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[23:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.06299797 = 0.189 BTC [+] {2}	[23:59]
TestingUnoDosTre	I've got free money for invetipreneurities	[23:59]

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