Forum logs for 13 Jul 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mod6 i went camping there once. [00:00]
ag3nt_zer0 yosemite? [00:01]
mod6 organ pipe [00:01]
decimation mod6: apparently you were lucky not to be murdered by wondering drug gangs [00:01]
ag3nt_zer0 oh nice... arizona really is beautiful... lived all over that place at one tiem or another [00:02]
mod6 it wasn't quite as bad back then. there was still a lot of people crossing the border in the area -- especially across the tohono o'odham resvervation boarder. there the tribe refuses to enforce the boarder because they claim that for thousands of years, there was no boarder. [00:04]
mod6 the reservation is adjacent (due east) of organ pipe [00:04]
ag3nt_zer0 there wasn't any fire water either but they got no prob with that [00:05]
mod6 true enough. [00:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73210 @ 0.00051222 = 37.4996 BTC [-] [00:06]
mircea_popescu lol nucular devices! [00:13]
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trinque ben_vulpes: so parenscript isn't so bad [00:29]
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trinque spent some time with it over the weekend; though I'm not actually writing CL on the client side it's close enough that I don't feel like I'm context switching between server and client [00:31]
trinque the JS produced is entirely readable [00:31]
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PeterL re American Manufacturing thread earlier, as one who works in a US manufacturing plant, I feel like I have to point out that not all US manufacturing is shit, and my job is to make sure of that [00:33]
PeterL oh, by the way, I don't think I have mentioned it here yet, I have loinfruit number 4 on the way, due about January [00:34]
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BingoBoingo Congrats PeterL [00:43]
PeterL thanks [00:43]
PeterL You guys have an opinion about Meghan Trainor "all about the base"? Disgusting meat planet or fresh breath of honesty? [00:44]
BingoBoingo HamPlanet enabler [00:45]
PeterL She is shaped kinda like my wife, but not as cute. What can I say, I like em curvy? [00:47]
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BingoBoingo Her body isn't the problem. It's her message [00:49]
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BingoBoingo Trainor doesn't look bad, but her message gives the real FUPAtroopers unwarranted positive encouragement [00:51]
PeterL maybe we should just let them feel good about themself and they will stop bothering us about making them feel bad? [00:52]
BingoBoingo No [00:55]
BingoBoingo That just encourages more of them to exist [00:56]
gernika Never quite understood the publicity push encouraging people to eat healthy. Who are these magical people that live healthy lives and then die conveniently, without requiring expensive medical treatment? Is it that they must live long lives and pay enough taxes to afford their death, and that those that die earlier are shirking? [00:59]
PeterL Perhaps the hope is that instead of a long decline, people will have a strong life until they suddenly drop dead at the end? [01:00]
PeterL Must be strong until pushed into gasenwagen? [01:00]
asciilifeform Last Bullet Health and Life Insurance Corp. [01:00]
PeterL Should the government health-care supervisors be pushing for doctor-assisted suicide at the onset of terminal diseases? [01:01]
gernika Well, they shouldn't outlaw it, at least. [01:03]
BingoBoingo It's about aesthetics [01:05]
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PeterL aesthetics or anesthetics? [01:10]
mats [01:12]
assbot Army Cuts Hit Alaska, Georgia, Texas Hardest « Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary ... ( ) [01:12]
PeterL " “At that point,” Allyn continued, “we will no longer be capable of fulfilling our responsibilities in accordance with the national security strategy.” " << Maybe they should bring some troops home from around the world? [01:17]
mats meh, hire Triple Canopy. [01:17]
BingoBoingo PeterL: Totally about aesthetics [01:18]
mats this reduction in force has been planned for a decade [01:18]
mats by... politicians [01:19]
PeterL well, the army is the biggest item in the budget, so if you want to make a dent it is the obvious place to start [01:19]
mats my understanding is that the long term plan has been to reduce the size of conventional troops to pay for more stuff in the socom budget [01:24]
mats since rumsfeld/bush [01:24]
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assbot Cadaver Synod ... ( ) [01:27]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: << carl force confiscations [01:27]
assbot ... ( ) [01:28]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: ty [01:28]
cazalla PeterL, hey congrats! missus and i banged it out a few times last month trying for another.. find out if it took this week [01:28]
asciilifeform ^ long live the waterfall, aha [01:28]
PeterL it's funner if it takes longer [01:29]
asciilifeform or will it pay for tx fees once gavinspam runs short of oldcoinz ? [01:29]
asciilifeform (letting blocks fall under 950kB is out of the question, dontchaknow) [01:29]
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cazalla what medication is that guy on? anti-depressants? [01:31]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: My guess is txfeespam [01:32]
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asciilifeform << also lulzy [01:34]
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* asciilifeform did not know ^ existed [01:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00054017 = 7.4814 BTC [+] {2} [01:54]
BingoBoingo poor door is SOP in larger US cities [01:55]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell peterl congrats. boy or girl ? [02:31]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:31]
mircea_popescu gernika certainly a good objection. [02:31]
mircea_popescu seems beyond fucking stupid to frame that discussion in terms of banning tobacco. or for that matter, banning tobacco. [02:32]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, obese people are an offense to humanity. [02:32]
mircea_popescu and speaking of motivation to act healthy - [02:33]
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BingoBoingo SO finally got 0.7.2 ish built on OpenBSD 5.6 again. Turns out the problem this whole week was pointing at the wrong BDB version [03:00]
mthreat I just found out the search.b-a server is down until my friend pays the bill. sorry, search won't work until then. [03:33]
mthreat I'm going to move it to a different server soon to avoid this problem. [03:34]
cazalla ;;isup [03:38]
gribble is down [03:39]
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mircea_popescu mthreat send you a btc to help bills along ? [04:22]
mircea_popescu cazalla lookin into it [04:22]
mircea_popescu - - [13/Jul/2015:02:19:37 -0400] "GET /2015/02/ceo-of-bitcoin-exchange-killed-in-thailand/ HTTP/1.1" 200 6182 "" "PHP/5.{3|2}.{1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|0}{1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|0}" [04:30]
mircea_popescu lol somebody doesn't grok this entire regex thing [04:30]
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punkman "Greece 'strikes deal with creditors' after all-night talks finally end in agreement following 17 hours of tense negotiations " [04:36]
mircea_popescu what's the highlights ? [04:37]
punkman you know, same deal as the one people voted off as "NO" [04:37]
mircea_popescu lol. [04:37]
mircea_popescu oxicodone. [04:37]
punkman but now we've killed all trust in banks [04:37]
punkman which is a good thing of course [04:37]
mircea_popescu eh, trust. [04:38]
punkman maybe they wanna buy up Greece before the "long winter" ? [04:38]
mircea_popescu aren't these the same banks that stole 90% of cypriot funds a coupla years ago ? what trust. [04:38]
mircea_popescu nobody has "any trust" of the theoretical verbal kind in banks, then they go use them 100% [04:38]
mircea_popescu much like idiot couples that "can't stand each other" to hear them talk, but then go have bad sex twice a week. [04:39]
punkman I don't see how they can remove capital controls anytime soon without... going more bankrupt? [04:39]
mircea_popescu it's probably coming out of land values. [04:43]
mircea_popescu what's a thousand sq ft in downtown athens go for these days ? [04:43]
punkman no idea, but the europeans have been eyeing all that land owned by greek church [04:44]
mircea_popescu o [04:45]
mircea_popescu that gotta go. [04:45]
punkman they'll definitely sell off the telecom company to ze germans, which owns most cables and rents them out to the private telecoms [04:49]
mircea_popescu the eternal dilemma of the margins : self owned by the local idiots ? or by a distant, thus disinterested if actually competent empire. [04:50]
punkman Deutsche Telekom owns 40% already [04:51]
mircea_popescu "Since I am no longer at the helm of UO, let’s look at where it has gone in my absence. Elves and ninjas have been added into the game, things I specifically had banned. This is only a small example of why and how Ultima has drifted away from Richard Garriott, but I have not drifted away from Ultima. Overused, irrelevant & reused RPG elements are not the essence of my Ultimate RPG. [04:51]
mircea_popescu [04:51]
mircea_popescu It is clear to me that I, Richard Garriott, am an essential ingredient of at least the Ultimate Ultima, if not more broadly the Ultimate RPG. Perhaps one day, now that the people who pushed me out of EA more than a decade ago are long since gone, EA will recognize that together, we could rebuild that franchise in a way that they have failed to do in the intervening years. Richard Garriott is an essential ingredient in [04:51]
mircea_popescu the Ultimate Ultima!" [04:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22756 @ 0.00053256 = 12.1189 BTC [-] [04:51]
mircea_popescu for every actual steve jobs... [04:51]
punkman is that the portalarium guy? [04:53]
mircea_popescu well, legendary ultima creator, lord british etc. yes. [04:53]
punkman all the old game devs are trying to crowdfund games these days [04:54]
punkman idiots even bought back rights to Carmageddon [04:54]
mircea_popescu when it rains money, who's not gonna spare a pail ? [04:55]
mircea_popescu anyway, guy sold origin for 30mn. fucking nuts. [04:56]
mircea_popescu imagine, origin worth 30mn in 1992, watsap worth 20 bn in 2014. [04:57]
punkman I don't remember playing any of his games, were they good? [05:04]
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mircea_popescu supposedly ultima online was major. i never really got into the series. [05:14]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell whaack ever got it to run ? [05:15]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:15]
punkman [05:27]
assbot Why do we keep forgiving Double Fine? [05:27]
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BingoBoingo punkman: So now that there's a deal do you want to write up Greece again? [05:45]
mircea_popescu dat piece o shit site. 3k lines page, content starts at line 798 [05:46]
mircea_popescu aaaaand by line 862 the schmuck's rehashed the same intro three times while proposing his spin on it also three times. substantiation is still implicitly promised but i lost hope of delivery and who the fuck is the author anyway ? [05:51]
mircea_popescu unemployed lousy public school teachers on the rampage. [05:51]
punkman heh [05:52]
punkman BingoBoingo: maybe end of this week, no reason to cover the derps move-by-move [05:53]
BingoBoingo Alright [05:53]
mircea_popescu when did this become a discursive style anyway, "general statement, unsubstantiated claim, restatement of general statement, restatement of unsubstantiated claim, second restatement of general statement, second restatement of unsubstantiated claim, and then move into "we" territory. [05:54]
mircea_popescu what fucking we. [05:54]
punkman the psychology of crowdfunders ^ [05:55]
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pete_dushenski heya mp [20:13]
mircea_popescu heya! [20:13]
pete_dushenski someone's excited to be here :) [20:14]
mircea_popescu what's new ? [20:14]
pete_dushenski it's hot as shit here. 30C+ [20:15]
mircea_popescu very pleasant 12ish here [20:15]
pete_dushenski a bit cool, but really quite livable for the south's 'january' [20:17]
mircea_popescu yeh i have no comp;laints [20:17]
pete_dushenski also, i just brought back the old skool razr phone into service [20:18]
pete_dushenski black [20:18]
pete_dushenski it's insanely cool. [20:18]
punkman 12c, are they all wearing heavy coats and furs now? [20:18]
pete_dushenski the razr really makes me wonder why people with laptops or desktops would have 'smartphones' [20:19]
mircea_popescu punkman like you wouldn't believe [20:19]
pete_dushenski is there an argentinian equivalent to the canadian 'toque' ? [20:20]
mircea_popescu everyone's office in microcentro is like, you know, 1/4 mile away at most, i usually go around in a suit. you'd think i'm in swimming trunks for the looks teh women give out. [20:20]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski iirc that's a roman thing. but they wear coats and gloves and shit, it's ridiculous. [20:21]
pete_dushenski i seem to recall that women covering their heads the way we think 'muslims' do is in fact a byzantine tradition, but not sure about the men. [20:22]
punkman ;;ud toque [20:22]
gribble | toque. the ultimate in high Canadian fashion. worn year round whether it's cold or warm outside. and yes it does get warm in Canada! "I never leave the house ... [20:22]
mircea_popescu eastern, i think it predates the byzantines [20:23]
pete_dushenski punkman << the highest of high fashions [20:24]
assbot ... ( ) [20:24]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu makes sense [20:24]
punkman [20:25]
assbot Heinz forced to apologise after QR code on ketchup bottle linked to hardcore porn site - News - Food and Drink - The Independent [20:25]
pete_dushenski baahhahah [20:26]
pete_dushenski too cheap to register the domain name for as long as the product isn't expired. [20:27]
punkman does Heinz even expire? [20:27]
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trinque "Taking advantage of the free advertising, Fundorado also comment on the photo, and offered Korell a free year's subscription." << epic lols [20:28]
pete_dushenski punkman even if it doesn't, they still have to list one by law [20:29]
pete_dushenski not like kraft singles ever go bad either, still have label requirements [20:29]
pete_dushenski "Newly released records show the federal [canadian] revenue agency has written off at least $4 billion in debts in the last two years" [20:30]
pete_dushenski "The outstanding balance in undisputed, unpaid taxes was $29 billion as of March 31, 2012" [20:30]
punkman was it loans to Greece? [20:30]
pete_dushenski probably just canadian greeks using their deferred tax payments to buy real estate on mykonos 'while it's cheap' and getting roasted [20:31]
mircea_popescu [20:31]
assbot ... ( ) [20:31]
punkman there is no real eastate on mykonos [20:31]
pete_dushenski thus the scam! [20:32]
mircea_popescu lol [20:32]
mircea_popescu ;;buy mykonos real estate invest business serious professional scholar [20:33]
gribble Error: 'mykonos' is not a valid positive floating point number. [20:33]
mircea_popescu ;;google buy mykonos real estate invest business serious professional scholar [20:33]
gribble Why You Should Be Investing Your Money In Real Estate: ; Investing in Commercial Real Estate - Entrepreneur: ; Real estate investing vs. buying a business (tenant, 7 ...: [20:33]
mircea_popescu right. [20:33]
punkman heh [20:33]
cazalla [20:37]
assbot Rapper 50 Cent Files for Bankruptcy - Bankruptcy Beat - WSJ ... ( ) [20:37]
punkman worth what it says on tin ^ [20:38]
punkman not bad [20:38]
pete_dushenski i guess his little cameo in 'spy' didn't cut the escalade-flavoured mustard [20:38]
punkman "he was supposed to appear in a New York state court to determine whether he owes punitive damages in a 2010 lawsuit filed by Lastonia Leviston, rapper Rick Ross’s ex-girlfriend" [20:39]
punkman more sextape [20:39]
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asciilifeform << Run Moar Winblowz!! [20:40]
assbot Logged on 13-07-2015 22:45:12; punkman: [20:40]
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asciilifeform << he used ordinary sks, as far as i can tell. [20:45]
assbot Logged on 13-07-2015 22:39:20; punkman: "Peter Palfrader supplied us with the key" << maybe ask this guy for some more keydumps [20:45]
asciilifeform quite enough keys 'to eat with one's arse' [20:45]
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punkman asciilifeform: historical copies might also be interesting [20:46]
asciilifeform punkman: theoretically, keys are never removed [20:46]
asciilifeform finding this, alone, would be newsworthy [20:46]
asciilifeform (that is, evidence that any historical copies are anything other than subsets of the current snapshot) [20:47]
punkman would be interesting to diff 2004 sks dump with 2015 [20:47]
asciilifeform aha. [20:47]
asciilifeform keys that are altered or missing would be insta-newz. [20:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55399 @ 0.00052554 = 29.1144 BTC [+] [20:47]
asciilifeform if anybody in my wot has such a snapshot - please write in. [20:47]
punkman "Going forward, Greece will have to stash its assets in a specially created fund and prepare them for sale “under the supervision of the relevant European Institutions,” “That may include buildings, possible areas of land, and even islands,” he says." [20:49]
punkman "To protect the natural, historical and archaeological value of such real estate, Greece would need to pass laws and empower oversight bodies to make sure that “the new owner does not abuse or damage the property,” " [20:49]
asciilifeform rapetime, aha [20:50]
mircea_popescu lawl. [20:52]
punkman "The idea of selling the Acropolis came up early in Greece’s debt crisis. In 2010, two conservative German lawmakers caused a furor in Greece by suggesting that ancient ruins should not be off limits to privatization. " [20:52]
mircea_popescu so the euros do not wish the russians to buy this ? [20:52]
mircea_popescu neways, after all the "dignity" talk, are these supposed people of greece actually beheading the politicos in front of the temple ? or ? [20:53]
punkman oh no, they already said Tsipras should stop talking to Putin, the Enemy of All Things European [20:53]
mircea_popescu "we had a referendum, said no. you agreed with the euros. here's your death sentence. it covers your parents and offspring" [20:54]
mircea_popescu beheading five year olds similarly should not be off limits, what's zee german conservatives say ? [20:54]
mircea_popescu rich cultural heritage and all that. [20:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64456 @ 0.0005038 = 32.4729 BTC [-] {2} [20:55]
mircea_popescu i suppose dignity's a lot like property, erryone's more than happy to claim it for as long as it's free. [20:56]
asciilifeform they behead, the trucks full of freebies stop coming. [20:57]
punkman no time for dignity now, have to work on penance [20:57]
asciilifeform and other trucks come instead [20:57]
mircea_popescu dude, but the dignitit. [20:57]
asciilifeform it isn't even a forebrain syllogism, they know this with their arse [20:57]
asciilifeform just like the rest of the 'civilized' world [20:57]
asciilifeform and, esp., its outskirts [20:57]
mircea_popescu i'd do it, honestly. [20:58]
asciilifeform easy, when you don't need the 'normality' for anything. [20:58]
mircea_popescu not nearly enough beheaded politicos in a whole decade to pay for one single week. [20:58]
punkman we kinda run out of terrorist in the last few years [20:58]
punkman *terrorists [20:59]
trinque shortages everywhere... *sigh* [20:59]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [20:59]
mircea_popescu zing. [20:59]
pete_dushenski except in syria [20:59]
mircea_popescu aite, so then time to move the greeks off to the zoo. [21:00]
punkman [21:00]
assbot Revolutionary Organization 17 November - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [21:00]
asciilifeform they were ever out of the zoo ? [21:00]
mircea_popescu yes [21:00]
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mircea_popescu last time i was in athens, these objectionable things were all over the acropolis, filling the cafes, pretending they're like human beings an' everything. [21:00]
mircea_popescu apparently i wasn't the only foreigner disgusted by the display. [21:00]
asciilifeform which ? [21:01]
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mircea_popescu teh locals [21:01]
pete_dushenski << 'Shoeshine boy trading club, China chapter' is a kid on... bitcoinwisdom [21:02]
assbot Chicago Boyz » Blog Archive » Sic Transit Gloria China ... ( ) [21:02]
pete_dushenski bananacoin trader [21:03]
mircea_popescu o.O [21:03]
pete_dushenski << direct link [21:03]
assbot ... ( ) [21:03]
punkman looks shopped [21:03]
trinque screen is kinda bright for outside eh? [21:04]
asciilifeform << not all greeks wanted to live in a natoreich zoo, aha. [21:04]
assbot Logged on 13-07-2015 23:56:35; punkman: [21:04]
trinque otoh china is smoghell [21:05]
mircea_popescu punkman anyway, terrorism's useless for this purpose. [21:06]
mircea_popescu gotta convict them to be beheaded, along with the entire fambly, through plain legal proceedings. [21:06]
mircea_popescu then carry it out. [21:06]
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punkman gonna be a long wait for that [21:09]
mircea_popescu i guess so. [21:13]
punkman the terrorists never did much anyway, firebomb here and there every few weeks for a while [21:13]
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punkman very few casualties [21:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37701 @ 0.00053428 = 20.1429 BTC [+] {3} [21:16]
asciilifeform << relevant historical mega-l0l [21:16]
assbot ... ( ) [21:16]
mircea_popescu iirc they killed some cia dude then tapered off after that [21:16]
asciilifeform (Official Truth holds that 'field manual 30-31b' is a ru forgery) [21:17]
punkman CIA station chief was their first one, then they killed some people in the 80s [21:17]
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asciilifeform << moar re: same. [21:19]
assbot ... ( ) [21:19]
pete_dushenski ;;ticker [21:20]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 291.05, Best ask: 291.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 291.28, 24 hour volume: 74167.38437043, 24 hour low: 281.5, 24 hour high: 312.0, 24 hour vwap: None [21:20]
punkman "the Baris journalist who had come into the possession of FM 30-31B disappeared and was never heard of again" [21:21]
punkman but it's totally a soviet forgery [21:22]
asciilifeform 'The Pentagon document first surfaced in Turkey in 1973 where the newspaper Baris in the midst of a whole range of mysterious acts of violence and brutality which shocked the Turkish society announced the publication of a secretive US document. Thereafter the Baris journalist who had come into the possession of FM 30-31B disappeared and was never heard of again. Despite the apparent danger Turkish Colonel Talat Turhan two year [21:22]
asciilifeform s later published a Turkish translation of the top-secret FM 30-31 and revealed that in Turkey NATO’s secret stay-behind army was codenamed “Counter-Guerrilla” directed by the Special Warfare Department. From Turkey the document found its way to Spain where in 1976 the newspaper Triunfo, despite heavy pressures to prevent the publication, published excerpts of FM 30-31B upon the fall of the Franco dictatorship. In Italy [21:22]
asciilifeform on 27 October 1978 excerpts of FM 30-31B were published by the political magazine L'Europeo, whereupon the printed issues of the magazine were confiscated. The breakthrough for the document came arguably not in the 1970s, but in the 1980s, when in Italy the secret anticommunist P2 Freemason lodge of Licio Gelli was discovered. Among the documents seized by the Italian police ranged also FM 30-31B. The Italian parliamentary inv [21:22]
asciilifeform estigation into P2 decided to publish FM 30-31B in the appendix of the final public parliamentary report on P2 in 1987.' [21:22]
* asciilifeform read the whole thing and observes that if it is a scam, it is a very high quality scam [21:22]
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trinque someday... it's going to be either the longest or shortest trial there ever was [21:24]
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asciilifeform who will try these folks? martians ? [21:24]
asciilifeform or 'the beoble' ? [21:25]
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trinque who knows what the future will bring [21:26]
mircea_popescu nothing is ever more common than the delusional notion that "these people" will escape. [21:28]
mircea_popescu it hasn't yet occured to date anyone did escape. [21:28]
mircea_popescu yet it hasn't yet occured to date anyone skipped on the "impossibru" sauce, either. [21:28]
asciilifeform it hasn't yet occured to date anyone did escape. << if 'escape' means 'die of old age, not beheading, and pass throne to successor' than hardly any of 'these people' ever ~did not~ escape.. [21:29]
asciilifeform am i thick or what. i dun get it [21:29]
* mircea_popescu shrugs. [21:29]
trinque uk ruled the whole world; look at them now [21:29]
trinque from where I sit they got theirs [21:30]
asciilifeform anglos still rule their reich [21:30]
asciilifeform just a different branch of family tree [21:30]
asciilifeform smooth change of management, w/out skipping a beat [21:30]
trinque maybe so, and maybe someone will say that's still true of the next thing [21:30]
mircea_popescu someone will definitely say that. [21:30]
mircea_popescu easiest thing in the world to say, after all. [21:30]
asciilifeform ^ incidentally, this touches on what imho was the major reason for the appeal of the soviet offering in the 'turd world.' [21:31]
asciilifeform namely, that, whatever else could be said about it, [21:31]
asciilifeform no one could confuse it with the anglo offerings. [21:32]
mircea_popescu no shortage of the confused. [21:33]
asciilifeform who and where ? [21:34]
BingoBoingo Kicks, further documented [21:34]
assbot JL: Entitlement Based Aggression ... ( ) [21:34]
mircea_popescu "This has become the case with many white employees in retain food establishments who spend their shifts being harangued, threatened and demeaned by hate-spewing black customers who typically spend more on groceries in a visit than many retail food employees make in two weeks. Being a white employee in a city supermarket is like being a peasant on a medieval lord’s land." [21:36]
mircea_popescu how the fuck is this a race issue ? [21:36]
mircea_popescu servants getting uppity ffs. [21:36]
mircea_popescu guy's got money and you're the clerk. go suck his fucking cock omfg. [21:36]
asciilifeform because when the colours are reversed, 'omg111!!111!!1' r4c1sm!! [21:37]
mircea_popescu of course being an employee in a supermarket is being a peasant on a lord's land. that is EXACTLY what it is. [21:37]
mircea_popescu also exactly what it should be. [21:37]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform heh mkay, let's fix stupid by being stupid the other way!!1 [21:37]
trinque #killallmen [21:38]
mircea_popescu wtf's next, we're all equal to the supermarket bozo and #holdhands ? [21:38]
mircea_popescu anyway, petty supermarket hostility bs. guy has better posts imo. [21:39]
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mircea_popescu i suppose he doesn't know this, but hey, his loss. [21:39]
trinque god damn that cat in the sandal is hilarious [21:40]
trinque 4th time opening it [21:40]
mircea_popescu in other news, [21:40]
assbot ... ( ) [21:40]
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BingoBoingo anyway, petty supermarket hostility bs. guy has better posts imo. << Supermarket guy is rightly in a low place. Welafare orcs excessively elevated. It's this sort of mess that will take Aztalan all the way to Long Island. [21:43]
mircea_popescu i dunno dude, seems nuts to me. some derp wishes to justify his being an asshole to some woman on the grounds of wide reaching sociodynamics ? [21:44]
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mircea_popescu what, he's a faitful soldier in the war of whitehood against the evil blacks through not holding the door to some woman ? [21:44]
mircea_popescu some people are born to die on plastic carpeting under fluorescent lights srsly. [21:45]
BingoBoingo Dude seems rather obviously nuts, but it seems a symptom of the larger American decay. [21:45]
mircea_popescu there was some random retard of equivalent potency i loled at the expense of on trilema. this one was on a trip about how he "is trying to live to the server's expectations" or some shit in a restaurant. [21:46]
mircea_popescu the issues people have in their own heads, when those heads are squarely devoid of anything worthwhile... [21:46]
mircea_popescu hanbot do you recall which article that was ? [21:46]
asciilifeform from my reading, this is one of those 'nouveau poor', if you will. the absolute most abjectly miserable thing to be in usistan. [21:46]
mircea_popescu FOR HIS SINS [21:46]
mircea_popescu he's supposed to go "i'm a fuckwad of a lifeform, and not only i deserve every bit of the shit i get, but if i keep course there's going to be more" [21:47]
asciilifeform folks with no experience of 'orcraft', of navigating that world, and having all the 'wrong' 'branded on the tongue' class markers, habits, etc. which set the buggers off [21:47]
mircea_popescu not this retarded "blacks made me be stupid and lousy" nonsense [21:47]
mircea_popescu asshole comes from a three generations line of jwz "i only wanted to...", and now he doesn't like the just dessers ? [21:48]
mircea_popescu fuck him. [21:48]
mircea_popescu should have beheaded tsipras when he had the chance. [21:48]
asciilifeform beheaded hamilton. [21:48]
mircea_popescu whosoever. [21:48]
asciilifeform (the actual plot of a famous 'alt-history' in usa) [21:48]
mircea_popescu lincoln, really, but anyway. [21:48]
asciilifeform 'the probability broach' [21:48]
asciilifeform was even turned into a comic book.. [21:49]
asciilifeform << now phree on publisher's www. [21:50]
assbot Big Head Press - Thoughtful Stories, Graphic Novels Online And In Print - The Probability Broach: The Graphic Novel, by L. Neil Smith and Scott Bieser ... ( ) [21:50]
asciilifeform pretty lulzy [21:50]
BingoBoingo Millions of noveau poor USians emerge from school every year disadvantaged because they went to "good" schools in the suburbs that insulated them from orcraft [21:50]
mircea_popescu i thought us supermarkets all have those sliding autodoors anyway, specifically to deal with the ever growing social awkwardness of usians. [21:50]
trinque sucks to be them; I went to those shitty suburban schools too [21:50]
asciilifeform doors - sop [21:50]
asciilifeform but the people still meet. [21:50]
mircea_popescu the fucking problems to have, seriously. [21:51]
mircea_popescu they're in kindergarten, there's no other way to look at it. [21:51]
mircea_popescu they're in kindergarten and they're whacking each other over the head with the cubes. [21:51]
BingoBoingo they're in kindergarten and they're whacking each other over the head with the cubes. << Seriously can't even have a good riot [21:51]
mircea_popescu anyway, alf's point re the recent poor is well taken [21:53]
mircea_popescu what i don't understand is why do they take it out on the blacks ffs. [21:53]
mircea_popescu THEY are to blame, for having believed bush or whoever the fuck they believed. [21:53]
trinque because they're there, and different [21:53]
trinque nothing more [21:53]
mircea_popescu in any case, the blacks WERE THERE [21:53]
asciilifeform they will take it out on themselves once a hitler shows up to help with this process. [21:53]
mircea_popescu like, before. and for that matter, know the terrain a lot better. [21:53]
mircea_popescu i suppose these are the same typically retarded usians that go to india and blame the indians for their inability to dowhatever X they wish to do. [21:54]
BingoBoingo what i don't understand is why do they take it out on the blacks ffs. << noveau poor envies the comforts of the old poor [21:54]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo has it [21:54]
mircea_popescu not like black dude cold-called you and persuaded you to be poor, motherfuckar! [21:54]
mircea_popescu it was your state senator, go talk to him. [21:54]
asciilifeform usa was a very different-flavoured place under the old white gov. [21:54]
mircea_popescu yaya [21:54]
trinque cowards, simple as that. [21:55]
BingoBoingo Mostly noveau poor lacks the refinement of the old poor which prevents them from going full orc and riding the welfare train [21:55]
mircea_popescu if white bitches spent more time learning how to twerk at age 6, perhaps anyone'd give a lot more of a shit about the problems of white trash. [21:55]
trinque americans are subconsciously terrified of their own govt [21:56]
mircea_popescu what, he's special or something ? can't fit a shoeshine box in his hands ? [21:56]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not just. all sorts of bureaucratic gears won't turn for you if you have wrong face [21:56]
trinque they simultaneously derive some kind of self-esteem from this fact [21:56]
trinque so no, they're not going to lash out at the monster, just some weird looking guy if they run across one [21:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so don't hold open the door to THAT OFFICE then! [21:56]
mircea_popescu trinque or an incapacitated woman with children, why not [21:56]
mircea_popescu what's she gonna do, bleed on you ? [21:56]
trinque yeah [21:56]
trinque the louder my "countrymen" shout about nonsense the more I smell pissed pants [21:57]
mircea_popescu dude's such a public danger, why doesn't he go around at night through the ghetto bumping into derps and immitating anything they say! [21:57]
mircea_popescu (yes, i used to do that, at that age. it was fun, fwiww.) [21:57]
trinque why's every american an anxiety-ridden, pill-popping nutcase? [21:58]
mircea_popescu that's what i wanna know! [21:58]
trinque couldn't possibly be the unpredictable insanity of the economic system, or the brutal, violent govt [21:58]
trinque probably the black bitch [21:58]
mircea_popescu trinque, abbot, costello &mp [21:58]
trinque heh [21:58]
hanbot mircea_popescu scratch that, comments section of fried chicken: [21:58]
assbot Fried chicken on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [21:58]
mircea_popescu hanbot oh right! i knew we had a lol at that thing [21:59]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform ironically enough, with a beheaded hamilton the us would still to this day be a sort of congo. [22:02]
mircea_popescu the brief excursion into world relevancy of the shithole in question is wholly owed to hamilton & co. [22:02]
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mircea_popescu the "evil bankers & capitalists" [22:02]
mircea_popescu true enough that it doesn't seem to last, congo is congo. but... it was a decent trip, for as long as it lasted. [22:02]
punkman I got a couple scamcalls from the Congo few months ago [22:05]
mircea_popescu bride ? [22:06]
punkman no idea, didn't pick up in time, just saw them in logs [22:06]
mircea_popescu twist : punkman's half brother has been in prison in congo since feb [22:06]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i wonder if this is going to lead to a new musical genre off the old superhero comics tree. just like destitute niggers had their stupid gangsta shit. [22:08]
mircea_popescu christian glam rock bands singin' about how they don't hold doors open at supermarket [22:08]
mircea_popescu "whatever... i slam doors and i kill people! it's my hot country and i do what i want!" [22:08]
trinque there's some kind of shitty white supremacist "punk" I think [22:08]
trinque I've long wondered where all the supposed neonazis are; met one a while back and I think all he did was shoot guns and get tattoes [22:09]
mircea_popescu should make for some pretty easy enthusiastic teenage poon, if it ever takes off. [22:09]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I don't see how it doesn't happen as I only anticipate the rape of white trash to increase. [22:12]
mircea_popescu i dunno... there really aren't that many blacks. [22:12]
trinque it's strange; there's something similar between the guy's door-holding and the utter lack of any dangerous subculture [22:13]
trinque as if all we can do is "act as if X" [22:13]
trinque somebody more well-read could identify what's malfunctioning in american identity-synthesis there [22:13]
mircea_popescu !s not a country [22:14]
mircea_popescu who was i having this discussion with ? [22:14]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sure, but there's going to be a lot more Chinese. It also really doesn't help the newer generations of white trash that they are ill equipped mentally, physically, and morally to cope. [22:14]
trinque mircea_popescu: yeah, what you said about a country being a place where young men know who they are, it's right on the mark [22:14]
trinque I considered that particular line for a long while after [22:14]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo on the positive side, all good things ever come out of an ill equipped kid stuck in a blender. [22:14]
assbot : [22:15]
BingoBoingo Of course. [22:15]
kakobrekla the timeout on the search is outrageous. [22:16]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla mthreat said it's being moved to another server. [22:16]
kakobrekla aha, i had that particular http request in mind, but good to know [22:17]
kakobrekla 60 seconds, exactly. [22:17]
mircea_popescu trinque and that's what multiculturalism actually is, ftr. given that it is SO COMPLICATED to have a cultural superstructure that allows any semblance of passible solution to that, and given that any sort of formal proof of superiority and inferiority ~AMONG THAT SET~, strictly, strictly among that set is so hopeless, [22:18]
mircea_popescu you're way the fuck better off just letting everybody use their own answers than trying to force some sort of homogenity. [22:18]
mircea_popescu obviously you can't have "multiculturalism" among things that aren't even subcultures, let alone cultures in their own right. [22:19]
mircea_popescu but go explain to taleb why he should stop wearing the facial hair style he does. because why ? reasons ? he got reasons too. [22:19]
BingoBoingo ;;google knockout game [22:22]
gribble Knockout game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Man Punches Pregnant Woman In Brutal 'Knockout Game' Attack ...: ; Pregnant woman sucker-punched in unprovoked attack | New York ...: [22:22]
trinque hm, it's like in the place where culture might develop, they've placed a culture-shredder [22:22]
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trinque I wonder whether anyone actually intended it. It seems too well designed, that you create this concept "multiculturalism" which by definition subsumes whatever particular ideas you might have as an individual. [22:25]
trinque but you see.. in order for us to hold hands multiculturally, there are going to have to be some rules... [22:25]
trinque where have I seen this kind of short circuiting before [22:26]
trinque like in portland you can come to work at a software company as a male with a skirt on and your nails done, no shoes on, so long as you shut the fuck up and work [22:26]
trinque not that I mind that at all, but it illustrates the "make any choice, so long as your domain of choosing is entirely irrelevant" [22:27]
mircea_popescu the original concept is merely commentary, on lengthy extant tradition, and it stands on its own as a perfectly sensible term of art in its field. [22:27]
mircea_popescu except, all that stuff's in french. [22:28]
mircea_popescu that the usians can not read and regularly hang themselves in the fancy underwear they bought in paris is not the underwear's fault. [22:28]
trinque lol [22:28]
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mircea_popescu how exactly is arbitrary activity "culture" now... [22:29]
mircea_popescu srsly, painting your nails ? what culture is this ? [22:29]
trinque just a matter of words meaning whatever ya like [22:29]
trinque if there's a facebook group for it, it's a culture [22:29]
mircea_popescu no wonder the code doesn't work. [22:30]
trinque if there's a github, there's a community [22:30]
mircea_popescu the term for this is subculture [22:30]
mircea_popescu tho even that may be a stretch [22:30]
trinque gotta have that other thing of which to be "sub" [22:30]
mircea_popescu The United MultiSubCultural States of America [22:31]
mircea_popescu nb. [22:31]
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mircea_popescu reminds me of "romania multilateral dezvoltata" [22:31]
cazalla mircea_popescu, would you give any weight to studies that show multiculti undermines social trust? (i try to keep in mind these are studies done by gov dept) [22:32]
mircea_popescu how do you measure "social trust" ? [22:32]
cazalla muh feels of course [22:33]
mircea_popescu yeah well, here's the thing : the variable you are likely calling this is a direct inverse of graph connectivity. [22:33]
mircea_popescu which means it is being undermined by improved communication. [22:33]
mircea_popescu it stands to intuitive reason if you look at it : the more people can talk to more people, the less any individual talk can be trusted, yes ? [22:34]
cazalla my experience is that no-one talks to anyone [22:34]
mircea_popescu once software acquired the ability to be "updated online", atomic software versions became less trustworthy. [22:35]
mircea_popescu because instead of doing anything right, people just slap it together and "we'll do an update later" [22:35]
trinque cazalla: I greet neighbors or people on the street here and they look down [22:35]
mircea_popescu technology's your enemy there, not anything to do with society. [22:35]
trinque I still do it, because fuck them. [22:35]
trinque but that was a nice thing about Texan (sub)culture [22:35]
trinque you goddamn greet people when you walk by [22:35]
mircea_popescu trinque all of them !? [22:35]
mircea_popescu i walked by at least 1k people today. [22:36]
trinque well there are unspoken rules of it [22:36]
cazalla trinque, i talk to my neighbour over the back but i couldn't tell you who else lives in this street.. growing up it was rare not to know [22:36]
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trinque I knew and drank with everybody I lived in an apt building with in tx [22:36]
trinque dunno any of these nervous fucks [22:36]
mircea_popescu you were twenty then! [22:36]
trinque sure that might be a factor [22:36]
mircea_popescu older people eventually figure out everyone's an idiot anyway [22:37]
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mircea_popescu unrelatedly, [22:49]
assbot ... ( ) [22:49]
asciilifeform ^ first-class lathe work ! [22:51]
asciilifeform << iirc the item in question used something like 'people leaving doors unlocked at night' [22:52]
assbot Logged on 14-07-2015 01:29:17; mircea_popescu: how do you measure "social trust" ? [22:52]
mircea_popescu so max social trust = up on the mountain ? [22:52]
* asciilifeform when first heard that anyone, anywhere since ancient egypt where locks were supposedly invented, ever left their house unlocked other than by mistake, was floored [22:53]
mircea_popescu i scarcely bothered. [22:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: iirc the talk was exclusively of reasonably populated places [22:53]
mircea_popescu for one thing, because dumbass russian locks, kept no one out. [22:54]
trinque meh, I leave windows open all night on the ground floor [22:54]
mircea_popescu fgor the other, because orly, you're gonna ROB ME ?!!? [22:54]
asciilifeform even very cheap lock gives extra second or two to aim ? [22:54]
mircea_popescu you ever read the story of the whores and the thieves ? [22:54]
trinque only crime around here is someone comes and steals your grill off the porch [22:54]
asciilifeform ali baba ? [22:54]
mircea_popescu no , no, on trilema. [22:55]
asciilifeform can't recall one [22:55]
asciilifeform << unrelated lol [22:57]
assbot KLMist - Bitcoin blockchain keys report ... ( ) [22:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform [22:58]
assbot Spargatorii si curva on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [22:59]
mircea_popescu !rated phf [22:59]
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asciilifeform in other 'news', microshit has bitcoin nodes on its campus [22:59]
mircea_popescu !rate phf 2 Actually managed to compile Eulora on OS/X, which is a first. [22:59]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ^ [22:59]
asciilifeform speaking of whom, [23:04]
asciilifeform i advise all folk in usa with a spare twenty to get that box spoken of earlier [23:04]
asciilifeform so it doesn't end up like pogo, with my desk having the only such for months [23:04]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [23:05]
scoopbot_revived New Java Zero Day Discovered Targeting NATO [23:05]
gribble Current Blocks: 365212 | Current Difficulty: 5.1076366303481926E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 366911 | Next Difficulty In: 1699 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47150109359.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.68703 [23:05]
asciilifeform 'The attack leverages a three-year-old vulnerability in Microsoft Windows Common Controls CVE-2012-015 which is addressed in MS12-027.' [23:06]
asciilifeform Run Moar Winblowz, NATO !! [23:06]
asciilifeform << moar lulziez [23:07]
assbot Hacking Team Uses UEFI BIOS Rootkit to Keep RCS 9 Agent in Target Systems ... ( ) [23:07]
asciilifeform ends with the obligatory [install nsa's ] 'Update the BIOS whenever there is a security patch' [23:08]
punkman ok turdatron must hate me, seems it even ate last email which I sent with "swaks" [23:11]
* punkman flaps hands [23:12]
BingoBoingo punkman: Have you tried sending with 'mail' [23:13]
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punkman BingoBoingo: does it do attachments? [23:14]
BingoBoingo I don't know? Only one way to find out [23:14]
BingoBoingo Ah, on my system it doesn't seem to [23:15]
punkman swaks is a crazy perl script for smtp testing, it works. [23:16]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: [23:17]
assbot Big Head Press - Thoughtful Stories, Graphic Novels Online And In Print - The Probability Broach: The Graphic Novel, by L. Neil Smith and Scott Bieser ... ( ) [23:17]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: lol [23:18]
decimation < the us had multiple cultures, they were not tolerated by the elites [23:19]
assbot Logged on 14-07-2015 01:15:43; mircea_popescu: obviously you can't have "multiculturalism" among things that aren't even subcultures, let alone cultures in their own right. [23:19]
mircea_popescu it did ? [23:19]
decimation absolutely. I've mentioned the german community that used to exist, for instance [23:20]
asciilifeform there were also urban irish [23:20]
asciilifeform and a number of others [23:20]
decimation us cities around 1900 were full of ethnic ghettos [23:21]
decimation the black were imported to bust these up in order to prevent 'independent vote blocs' [23:21]
trinque doesn't seem like those transplants took [23:21]
mircea_popescu eh for chrissakes. you and your wife going on a cruise does not now constitute an "english culture" in oceania. [23:21]
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trinque my family goes back to a big italian clan that moved over in I think the 30s or so [23:21]
trinque do you think I have any connections? [23:21]
trinque hell no I don't [23:22]
asciilifeform everybody who wouldn't bow to massachusetts got bugsprayed. [23:22]
decimation < the majority of these blacks are actually 'spending' usg's money [23:22]
assbot Logged on 14-07-2015 00:33:04; mircea_popescu: servants getting uppity ffs. [23:22]
asciilifeform ^ [23:22]
mircea_popescu pecunia non olet. [23:22]
mircea_popescu they have it, you want it, fuck you. [23:22]
decimation maryland, for instance, has a 'poor people health insurance' where they are required to pay $1, if they can afford it [23:22]
decimation most can't afford it [23:22]
trinque lol how do they means-test that? [23:23]
decimation they don't, it's purely optional [23:23]
trinque ask for a dollar, and then write down the "no" response? [23:23]
decimation (medicaid) [23:23]
decimation yeah I think that's how it works [23:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61593 @ 0.0005364 = 33.0385 BTC [-] [23:24]
mircea_popescu and ftr i am naught impressed with this "got bugsprayed" bs. [23:25]
mircea_popescu ei ce pazeau ? [23:25]
cazalla decimation, i read the other day this Fair Housing update will result in blacks being bussed in to the rich white liberal areas.. btw Obama looking old as fuck [23:25]
assbot Weekly Address: Making Our Communities Stronger Through Fair Housing - YouTube ... ( ) [23:25]
trinque cazalla: heh I got bussed as a white kid to the shittier public school back in the day for the same reason [23:25]
asciilifeform recall mr mold: 'my daughter's preschool is literally in a ruin - that is, a (nicely renovated) space which used to be part of a Catholic church. (The preschool is the former convent. The rest of the church remains a ruin proper.) Where are the people who used to pray in this church? They fled. Why? Because they were afraid for their physical safety.' [23:27]
decimation cazalla: Obama's a lame duck, the most he can do is hand out goodies so that democrats show up to vote next time [23:27]
cazalla taking the bus to school such a strange concept.. i use to ride my bmx doing bunny hops and all sorts along the way [23:27]
asciilifeform 'I know, I know. It's gauche to even bring this kind of stuff up. It's not part of our consensus reality. It's not part of our consensus history. When it comes to actual history, however,...' [23:27]
decimation cazalla: most us towns - even little cities - have a massive bus infrastructure just to take kids to and from school - and nobody else [23:27]
mircea_popescu eh, nothing was ever built by the afraid. [23:27]
mircea_popescu what, is this the universal excuse now ? "why is he fucking dumb ?" "he is ~~~affraid for his own physical safety~~~ magic wordsd!!!" "oh ok then, all is well, carry on" [23:28]
decimation mircea_popescu: which is why they left, and it is crumbling [23:28]
mircea_popescu good riddance. [23:29]
mircea_popescu by any practical measure they were an offense to the land they shaded. [23:29]
mod6 So over the weekend and today, was working on building a new gentoo-amd64-nomultilib (glibc) instance to test out application of patches with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE as the base. Was able to build static binaries with gentoo & glibc just fine with both a modified auto-static ( and with a slightly modified script. [23:29]
asciilifeform good work mod6 [23:29]
asciilifeform modified how ? [23:29]
mircea_popescu mod6 they be actually static ? [23:29]
mod6 Upon successful compilation, both static builds were able to pull at least 150`000 blocks from mp's node. [23:29]
mircea_popescu pretty cool [23:30]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw is your node stuck ? [23:30]
* asciilifeform had actual static, in 'stator', compare with the elf attached there [23:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not at all [23:30]
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asciilifeform hasn't been stuck once since i moved the clock, afaik [23:30]
mircea_popescu tried to track it with a node, it resulted in a stuck node 0.O [23:30]
mod6 mircea_popescu: it appears to me that they are. I have two build logs (one for with and one with They can be found: [23:30]
mod6 [23:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: interesting! please say if you are able to replicate this [23:30]
assbot ... ( ) [23:30]
mircea_popescu workin' on it. [23:30]
asciilifeform (on clean box) [23:30]
mod6 [23:30]
assbot ... ( ) [23:31]
cazalla decimation, they had a bus for the high school i attended and when i got sent to naughty boy school i was given a train ticket which provide free travel (which was self defeating in that i no longer had to jump the train but could now ride legit for free lol) [23:31]
asciilifeform anybody else wedged ? [23:31]
asciilifeform (other than mircea_popescu) [23:31]
mod6 (at the bottom of these sizeable files, you can see me run `ldd` and `readelf` against the output binaries) [23:31]
asciilifeform me==365216 [23:31]
mod6 I have created a simple build script that will pull all of the patches, verify them, apply the patches at the top of the file. Along with anything else that was required. [23:32]
asciilifeform nice [23:32]
decimation cazalla: at least you rode transport that others in the city could use [23:33]
asciilifeform ^ just to be clear re: above, my node is not, as far as i can tell, wedged! [23:33]
mod6 This is all leading up to a new "patching guide" that I'm working on. Which is basically finished, save the fact I've yet to decide which direction to go on the build script. On one hand, I really love how simple and clean is, but with, I like how it automatically pulls the archives for you and creates the directories. etc. [23:33]
decimation my node has taken almost 2 weeks to get to 264k [23:33]
mod6 Anyway, working on it. :] [23:33]
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trinque mod6: pretty cool! [23:33]
mod6 decimation: plugged into mp's node? [23:33]
trinque hi ag3nt_zer0 [23:33]
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ag3nt_zer0 hey trinque [23:34]
decimation is on' ascii's node I think [23:34]
mod6 ah [23:34]
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mod6 <@asciilifeform> modified how ? << with stator, I needed to add back in 'no-shared', according to this is required for us (probably). And I also needed to modify your line `cd bitcoin/bitcoin/src;` to `cd bitcoin/src;`. All of the things are in the build log, I tried not to leave anything out. [23:37]
assbot Compilation and Installation - OpenSSLWiki ... ( ) [23:37]
ag3nt_zer0 several months back I was at the plug and play bitcoin meetup... Nathaniel Popper was there talking about his book... anyway, after the talk I was standing in line to ask him to clarify something when this familiar-looking chap gets in line behind me. asks me who what etc... [23:37]
mod6 Those were the only changes to stator that were required to make it fit with the release artifact. [23:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74689 @ 0.00053922 = 40.2738 BTC [+] {2} [23:38]
mod6 thx trinque, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, et al. :] [23:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 198721 @ 0.00055277 = 109.847 BTC [+] {5} [23:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 182100 @ 0.000534 = 97.2414 BTC [-] {4} [23:40]
ag3nt_zer0 at the time I was all zigzagged about Trilema and so I asked him if he had heard of it... he scanned the files that the eye accesses when it looks down/right and there was a spark... he said "what's that?"... I said "dunno, run by this guy Mircea something or other"... he said "oh, that guy doesnt like me"... later he asked for my number and when he pulled out his phone I saw his name was Tim Swanson [23:40]
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assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [23:41]
ag3nt_zer0 trivial perhaps, and not to make fun of him, but I thought it was pretty funny... [23:42]
ag3nt_zer0 [23:44]
assbot ProxyHam anonymising router project mysteriously closed down - Business Insider ... ( ) [23:44]
decimation ag3nt_zer0: was already done, look in the logs [23:44]
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ag3nt_zer0 decimation: thanks. guess I should make that a habit before posting here... [23:48]
trinque 'tis the custom [23:49]
cazalla i think the tim swanson story more than makes up for it ag3nt_zer0 [23:49]
ag3nt_zer0 hehe [23:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51444 @ 0.00055465 = 28.5334 BTC [+] {2} [23:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117256 @ 0.00055519 = 65.0994 BTC [+] [23:51]
asciilifeform mod6: rather peculiar that you had to add in 'no-shared' - witness that there are no shared deps in my executable (attached to 'stator' post on ml) [23:55]
mod6 well, actually, I didn't /have/ to at all. [23:59]
mod6 every time i've built the 'stator' before, the output binary was fine. [23:59]
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