Forum logs for 13 Jul 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mod6 | i went camping there once. | [00:00] |
ag3nt_zer0 | yosemite? | [00:01] |
mod6 | organ pipe | [00:01] |
decimation | mod6: apparently you were lucky not to be murdered by wondering drug gangs | [00:01] |
ag3nt_zer0 | oh nice... arizona really is beautiful... lived all over that place at one tiem or another | [00:02] |
mod6 | it wasn't quite as bad back then. there was still a lot of people crossing the border in the area -- especially across the tohono o'odham resvervation boarder. there the tribe refuses to enforce the boarder because they claim that for thousands of years, there was no boarder. | [00:04] |
mod6 | the reservation is adjacent (due east) of organ pipe | [00:04] |
ag3nt_zer0 | there wasn't any fire water either but they got no prob with that | [00:05] |
mod6 | true enough. | [00:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73210 @ 0.00051222 = 37.4996 BTC [-] | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | lol nucular devices! | [00:13] |
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trinque | ben_vulpes: so parenscript isn't so bad | [00:29] |
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trinque | spent some time with it over the weekend; though I'm not actually writing CL on the client side it's close enough that I don't feel like I'm context switching between server and client | [00:31] |
trinque | the JS produced is entirely readable | [00:31] |
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PeterL | re American Manufacturing thread earlier, as one who works in a US manufacturing plant, I feel like I have to point out that not all US manufacturing is shit, and my job is to make sure of that | [00:33] |
PeterL | oh, by the way, I don't think I have mentioned it here yet, I have loinfruit number 4 on the way, due about January | [00:34] |
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BingoBoingo | Congrats PeterL | [00:43] |
PeterL | thanks | [00:43] |
PeterL | You guys have an opinion about Meghan Trainor "all about the base"? Disgusting meat planet or fresh breath of honesty? | [00:44] |
BingoBoingo | HamPlanet enabler | [00:45] |
PeterL | She is shaped kinda like my wife, but not as cute. What can I say, I like em curvy? | [00:47] |
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BingoBoingo | Her body isn't the problem. It's her message | [00:49] |
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BingoBoingo | Trainor doesn't look bad, but her message gives the real FUPAtroopers unwarranted positive encouragement | [00:51] |
PeterL | maybe we should just let them feel good about themself and they will stop bothering us about making them feel bad? | [00:52] |
BingoBoingo | No | [00:55] |
BingoBoingo | That just encourages more of them to exist | [00:56] |
gernika | Never quite understood the publicity push encouraging people to eat healthy. Who are these magical people that live healthy lives and then die conveniently, without requiring expensive medical treatment? Is it that they must live long lives and pay enough taxes to afford their death, and that those that die earlier are shirking? | [00:59] |
PeterL | Perhaps the hope is that instead of a long decline, people will have a strong life until they suddenly drop dead at the end? | [01:00] |
PeterL | Must be strong until pushed into gasenwagen? | [01:00] |
asciilifeform | Last Bullet Health and Life Insurance Corp. | [01:00] |
PeterL | Should the government health-care supervisors be pushing for doctor-assisted suicide at the onset of terminal diseases? | [01:01] |
gernika | Well, they shouldn't outlaw it, at least. | [01:03] |
BingoBoingo | It's about aesthetics | [01:05] |
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PeterL | aesthetics or anesthetics? | [01:10] |
mats | http://breakingdefense.com/2015/07/army-details-cuts-alaska-georgia-texas-hit-hardest/ | [01:12] |
assbot | Army Cuts Hit Alaska, Georgia, Texas Hardest « Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary ... ( http://bit.ly/1fBnsjr ) | [01:12] |
PeterL | " “At that point,” Allyn continued, “we will no longer be capable of fulfilling our responsibilities in accordance with the national security strategy.” " << Maybe they should bring some troops home from around the world? | [01:17] |
mats | meh, hire Triple Canopy. | [01:17] |
BingoBoingo | PeterL: Totally about aesthetics | [01:18] |
mats | this reduction in force has been planned for a decade | [01:18] |
mats | by... politicians | [01:19] |
PeterL | well, the army is the biggest item in the budget, so if you want to make a dent it is the obvious place to start | [01:19] |
mats | my understanding is that the long term plan has been to reduce the size of conventional troops to pay for more stuff in the socom budget | [01:24] |
mats | since rumsfeld/bush | [01:24] |
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oglafbot | http://oglaf.com/synod/ | [01:27] |
assbot | Cadaver Synod ... ( http://bit.ly/1O54gpA ) | [01:27] |
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asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: http://cryptome.org/2015/07/force-052-050.pdf << carl force confiscations | [01:27] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1O54fCg ) | [01:28] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: ty | [01:28] |
cazalla | PeterL, hey congrats! missus and i banged it out a few times last month trying for another.. find out if it took this week | [01:28] |
asciilifeform | ^ long live the waterfall, aha | [01:28] |
PeterL | it's funner if it takes longer | [01:29] |
asciilifeform | or will it pay for tx fees once gavinspam runs short of oldcoinz ? | [01:29] |
asciilifeform | (letting blocks fall under 950kB is out of the question, dontchaknow) | [01:29] |
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cazalla | what medication is that guy on? anti-depressants? | [01:31] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: My guess is txfeespam | [01:32] |
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asciilifeform | http://cryptome.org/2015-info/poor-door-nyc/poor-door-nyc.htm << also lulzy | [01:34] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1O54YDn ) | [01:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00054017 = 7.4814 BTC [+] {2} | [01:54] |
BingoBoingo | poor door is SOP in larger US cities | [01:55] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;later tell peterl congrats. boy or girl ? | [02:31] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | gernika certainly a good objection. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | seems beyond fucking stupid to frame that discussion in terms of banning tobacco. or for that matter, banning tobacco. | [02:32] |
mircea_popescu | nevertheless, obese people are an offense to humanity. | [02:32] |
mircea_popescu | and speaking of motivation to act healthy - http://31.media.tumblr.com/970b9af35bd767902b45116e3b5ab04a/tumblr_n7k8g6t70m1rl2fgko1_500.gif | [02:33] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1SipssW ) | [02:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34268 @ 0.00053256 = 18.2498 BTC [-] | [02:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15826 @ 0.00053256 = 8.4283 BTC [-] | [02:51] |
BingoBoingo | SO finally got 0.7.2 ish built on OpenBSD 5.6 again. Turns out the problem this whole week was pointing at the wrong BDB version | [03:00] |
mthreat | I just found out the search.b-a server is down until my friend pays the bill. sorry, search won't work until then. | [03:33] |
mthreat | I'm going to move it to a different server soon to avoid this problem. | [03:34] |
cazalla | ;;isup qntra.net | [03:38] |
gribble | qntra.net is down | [03:39] |
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mircea_popescu | mthreat send you a btc to help bills along ? | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla lookin into it | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | 206.144.86.90 - - [13/Jul/2015:02:19:37 -0400] "GET /2015/02/ceo-of-bitcoin-exchange-killed-in-thailand/ HTTP/1.1" 200 6182 "http://qntra.net/" "PHP/5.{3|2}.{1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|0}{1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|0}" | [04:30] |
mircea_popescu | lol somebody doesn't grok this entire regex thing | [04:30] |
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punkman | "Greece 'strikes deal with creditors' after all-night talks finally end in agreement following 17 hours of tense negotiations " | [04:36] |
mircea_popescu | what's the highlights ? | [04:37] |
punkman | you know, same deal as the one people voted off as "NO" | [04:37] |
mircea_popescu | lol. | [04:37] |
mircea_popescu | oxicodone. | [04:37] |
punkman | but now we've killed all trust in banks | [04:37] |
punkman | which is a good thing of course | [04:37] |
mircea_popescu | eh, trust. | [04:38] |
punkman | maybe they wanna buy up Greece before the "long winter" ? | [04:38] |
mircea_popescu | aren't these the same banks that stole 90% of cypriot funds a coupla years ago ? what trust. | [04:38] |
mircea_popescu | nobody has "any trust" of the theoretical verbal kind in banks, then they go use them 100% | [04:38] |
mircea_popescu | much like idiot couples that "can't stand each other" to hear them talk, but then go have bad sex twice a week. | [04:39] |
punkman | I don't see how they can remove capital controls anytime soon without... going more bankrupt? | [04:39] |
mircea_popescu | it's probably coming out of land values. | [04:43] |
mircea_popescu | what's a thousand sq ft in downtown athens go for these days ? | [04:43] |
punkman | no idea, but the europeans have been eyeing all that land owned by greek church | [04:44] |
mircea_popescu | o | [04:45] |
mircea_popescu | that gotta go. | [04:45] |
punkman | they'll definitely sell off the telecom company to ze germans, which owns most cables and rents them out to the private telecoms | [04:49] |
mircea_popescu | the eternal dilemma of the margins : self owned by the local idiots ? or by a distant, thus disinterested if actually competent empire. | [04:50] |
punkman | Deutsche Telekom owns 40% already | [04:51] |
mircea_popescu | "Since I am no longer at the helm of UO, let’s look at where it has gone in my absence. Elves and ninjas have been added into the game, things I specifically had banned. This is only a small example of why and how Ultima has drifted away from Richard Garriott, but I have not drifted away from Ultima. Overused, irrelevant & reused RPG elements are not the essence of my Ultimate RPG. | [04:51] |
mircea_popescu | [04:51] | |
mircea_popescu | It is clear to me that I, Richard Garriott, am an essential ingredient of at least the Ultimate Ultima, if not more broadly the Ultimate RPG. Perhaps one day, now that the people who pushed me out of EA more than a decade ago are long since gone, EA will recognize that together, we could rebuild that franchise in a way that they have failed to do in the intervening years. Richard Garriott is an essential ingredient in | [04:51] |
mircea_popescu | the Ultimate Ultima!" | [04:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22756 @ 0.00053256 = 12.1189 BTC [-] | [04:51] |
mircea_popescu | for every actual steve jobs... | [04:51] |
punkman | is that the portalarium guy? | [04:53] |
mircea_popescu | well, legendary ultima creator, lord british etc. yes. | [04:53] |
punkman | all the old game devs are trying to crowdfund games these days | [04:54] |
punkman | idiots even bought back rights to Carmageddon | [04:54] |
mircea_popescu | when it rains money, who's not gonna spare a pail ? | [04:55] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, guy sold origin for 30mn. fucking nuts. | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | imagine, origin worth 30mn in 1992, watsap worth 20 bn in 2014. | [04:57] |
punkman | I don't remember playing any of his games, were they good? | [05:04] |
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mircea_popescu | supposedly ultima online was major. i never really got into the series. | [05:14] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell whaack ever got it to run ? | [05:15] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [05:15] |
punkman | http://www.gamesradar.com/why-do-we-keep-forgiving-double-fine/ | [05:27] |
assbot | Why do we keep forgiving Double Fine? | [05:27] |
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BingoBoingo | punkman: So now that there's a deal do you want to write up Greece again? | [05:45] |
mircea_popescu | dat piece o shit site. 3k lines page, content starts at line 798 | [05:46] |
mircea_popescu | aaaaand by line 862 the schmuck's rehashed the same intro three times while proposing his spin on it also three times. substantiation is still implicitly promised but i lost hope of delivery and who the fuck is the author anyway ? | [05:51] |
mircea_popescu | unemployed lousy public school teachers on the rampage. | [05:51] |
punkman | heh | [05:52] |
punkman | BingoBoingo: maybe end of this week, no reason to cover the derps move-by-move | [05:53] |
BingoBoingo | Alright | [05:53] |
mircea_popescu | when did this become a discursive style anyway, "general statement, unsubstantiated claim, restatement of general statement, restatement of unsubstantiated claim, second restatement of general statement, second restatement of unsubstantiated claim, and then move into "we" territory. | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | what fucking we. | [05:54] |
punkman | the psychology of crowdfunders ^ | [05:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00051355 = 7.3951 BTC [-] | [06:29] |
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pete_dushenski | heya mp | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | heya! | [20:13] |
pete_dushenski | someone's excited to be here :) | [20:14] |
mircea_popescu | what's new ? | [20:14] |
pete_dushenski | it's hot as shit here. 30C+ | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | very pleasant 12ish here | [20:15] |
pete_dushenski | a bit cool, but really quite livable for the south's 'january' | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | yeh i have no comp;laints | [20:17] |
pete_dushenski | also, i just brought back the old skool razr phone into service | [20:18] |
pete_dushenski | black | [20:18] |
pete_dushenski | it's insanely cool. | [20:18] |
punkman | 12c, are they all wearing heavy coats and furs now? | [20:18] |
pete_dushenski | the razr really makes me wonder why people with laptops or desktops would have 'smartphones' | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | punkman like you wouldn't believe | [20:19] |
pete_dushenski | is there an argentinian equivalent to the canadian 'toque' ? | [20:20] |
mircea_popescu | everyone's office in microcentro is like, you know, 1/4 mile away at most, i usually go around in a suit. you'd think i'm in swimming trunks for the looks teh women give out. | [20:20] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski iirc that's a roman thing. but they wear coats and gloves and shit, it's ridiculous. | [20:21] |
pete_dushenski | i seem to recall that women covering their heads the way we think 'muslims' do is in fact a byzantine tradition, but not sure about the men. | [20:22] |
punkman | ;;ud toque | [20:22] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=toque | toque. the ultimate in high Canadian fashion. worn year round whether it's cold or warm outside. and yes it does get warm in Canada! "I never leave the house ... | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | eastern, i think it predates the byzantines | [20:23] |
pete_dushenski | punkman http://globedia.com/imagenes/noticias/2014/1/15/moda-invierno-2014-chicos-dsquared2_4_1956833.jpg << the highest of high fashions | [20:24] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1M75UZM ) | [20:24] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu makes sense | [20:24] |
punkman | http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/heinz-forced-to-apologise-after-qr-code-on-ketchup-bottle-linked-to-hardcore-porn-site-10327313.html | [20:25] |
assbot | Heinz forced to apologise after QR code on ketchup bottle linked to hardcore porn site - News - Food and Drink - The Independent | [20:25] |
pete_dushenski | baahhahah | [20:26] |
pete_dushenski | too cheap to register the domain name for as long as the product isn't expired. | [20:27] |
punkman | does Heinz even expire? | [20:27] |
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trinque | "Taking advantage of the free advertising, Fundorado also comment on the photo, and offered Korell a free year's subscription." << epic lols | [20:28] |
pete_dushenski | punkman even if it doesn't, they still have to list one by law | [20:29] |
pete_dushenski | not like kraft singles ever go bad either, still have label requirements | [20:29] |
pete_dushenski | "Newly released records show the federal [canadian] revenue agency has written off at least $4 billion in debts in the last two years" | [20:30] |
pete_dushenski | "The outstanding balance in undisputed, unpaid taxes was $29 billion as of March 31, 2012" | [20:30] |
punkman | was it loans to Greece? | [20:30] |
pete_dushenski | probably just canadian greeks using their deferred tax payments to buy real estate on mykonos 'while it's cheap' and getting roasted | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | http://i.imgur.com/UXCBWlW.gifv | [20:31] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1TyBb9h ) | [20:31] |
punkman | there is no real eastate on mykonos | [20:31] |
pete_dushenski | thus the scam! | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | ;;buy mykonos real estate invest business serious professional scholar | [20:33] |
gribble | Error: 'mykonos' is not a valid positive floating point number. | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google buy mykonos real estate invest business serious professional scholar | [20:33] |
gribble | Why You Should Be Investing Your Money In Real Estate: |
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mircea_popescu | right. | [20:33] |
punkman | heh | [20:33] |
cazalla | http://blogs.wsj.com/bankruptcy/2015/07/13/rapper-50-cent-files-for-bankruptcy/ | [20:37] |
assbot | Rapper 50 Cent Files for Bankruptcy - Bankruptcy Beat - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1M76NBx ) | [20:37] |
punkman | worth what it says on tin ^ | [20:38] |
punkman | not bad | [20:38] |
pete_dushenski | i guess his little cameo in 'spy' didn't cut the escalade-flavoured mustard | [20:38] |
punkman | "he was supposed to appear in a New York state court to determine whether he owes punitive damages in a 2010 lawsuit filed by Lastonia Leviston, rapper Rick Ross’s ex-girlfriend" | [20:39] |
punkman | more sextape | [20:39] |
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asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-07-2015#1199706 << Run Moar Winblowz!! | [20:40] |
assbot | Logged on 13-07-2015 22:45:12; punkman: http://www.joshwieder.net/2015/03/wikileaks-global-intelligence-file-dump.html | [20:40] |
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asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-07-2015#1199704 << he used ordinary sks, as far as i can tell. | [20:45] |
assbot | Logged on 13-07-2015 22:39:20; punkman: "Peter Palfrader supplied us with the key" << maybe ask this guy for some more keydumps | [20:45] |
asciilifeform | quite enough keys 'to eat with one's arse' | [20:45] |
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punkman | asciilifeform: historical copies might also be interesting | [20:46] |
asciilifeform | punkman: theoretically, keys are never removed | [20:46] |
asciilifeform | finding this, alone, would be newsworthy | [20:46] |
asciilifeform | (that is, evidence that any historical copies are anything other than subsets of the current snapshot) | [20:47] |
punkman | would be interesting to diff 2004 sks dump with 2015 | [20:47] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [20:47] |
asciilifeform | keys that are altered or missing would be insta-newz. | [20:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55399 @ 0.00052554 = 29.1144 BTC [+] | [20:47] |
asciilifeform | if anybody in my wot has such a snapshot - please write in. | [20:47] |
punkman | "Going forward, Greece will have to stash its assets in a specially created fund and prepare them for sale “under the supervision of the relevant European Institutions,” “That may include buildings, possible areas of land, and even islands,” he says." | [20:49] |
punkman | "To protect the natural, historical and archaeological value of such real estate, Greece would need to pass laws and empower oversight bodies to make sure that “the new owner does not abuse or damage the property,” " | [20:49] |
asciilifeform | rapetime, aha | [20:50] |
mircea_popescu | lawl. | [20:52] |
punkman | "The idea of selling the Acropolis came up early in Greece’s debt crisis. In 2010, two conservative German lawmakers caused a furor in Greece by suggesting that ancient ruins should not be off limits to privatization. " | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | so the euros do not wish the russians to buy this ? | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | neways, after all the "dignity" talk, are these supposed people of greece actually beheading the politicos in front of the temple ? or ? | [20:53] |
punkman | oh no, they already said Tsipras should stop talking to Putin, the Enemy of All Things European | [20:53] |
mircea_popescu | "we had a referendum, said no. you agreed with the euros. here's your death sentence. it covers your parents and offspring" | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | beheading five year olds similarly should not be off limits, what's zee german conservatives say ? | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | rich cultural heritage and all that. | [20:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64456 @ 0.0005038 = 32.4729 BTC [-] {2} | [20:55] |
mircea_popescu | i suppose dignity's a lot like property, erryone's more than happy to claim it for as long as it's free. | [20:56] |
asciilifeform | they behead, the trucks full of freebies stop coming. | [20:57] |
punkman | no time for dignity now, have to work on penance | [20:57] |
asciilifeform | and other trucks come instead | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | dude, but the dignitit. | [20:57] |
asciilifeform | it isn't even a forebrain syllogism, they know this with their arse | [20:57] |
asciilifeform | just like the rest of the 'civilized' world | [20:57] |
asciilifeform | and, esp., its outskirts | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | i'd do it, honestly. | [20:58] |
asciilifeform | easy, when you don't need the 'normality' for anything. | [20:58] |
mircea_popescu | not nearly enough beheaded politicos in a whole decade to pay for one single week. | [20:58] |
punkman | we kinda run out of terrorist in the last few years | [20:58] |
punkman | *terrorists | [20:59] |
trinque | shortages everywhere... *sigh* | [20:59] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha | [20:59] |
mircea_popescu | zing. | [20:59] |
pete_dushenski | except in syria | [20:59] |
mircea_popescu | aite, so then time to move the greeks off to the zoo. | [21:00] |
punkman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Organization_17_November#Victims | [21:00] |
assbot | Revolutionary Organization 17 November - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1M77WsV ) | [21:00] |
asciilifeform | they were ever out of the zoo ? | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | yes | [21:00] |
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mircea_popescu | last time i was in athens, these objectionable things were all over the acropolis, filling the cafes, pretending they're like human beings an' everything. | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | apparently i wasn't the only foreigner disgusted by the display. | [21:00] |
asciilifeform | which ? | [21:01] |
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mircea_popescu | teh locals | [21:01] |
pete_dushenski | http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/48967.html << 'Shoeshine boy trading club, China chapter' is a kid on... bitcoinwisdom | [21:02] |
assbot | Chicago Boyz » Blog Archive » Sic Transit Gloria China ... ( http://bit.ly/1M782Rm ) | [21:02] |
pete_dushenski | bananacoin trader | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [21:03] |
pete_dushenski | http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/04-overflow/20150424_china.jpg << direct link | [21:03] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1M7877s ) | [21:03] |
punkman | looks shopped | [21:03] |
trinque | screen is kinda bright for outside eh? | [21:04] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-07-2015#1199825 << not all greeks wanted to live in a natoreich zoo, aha. | [21:04] |
assbot | Logged on 13-07-2015 23:56:35; punkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Organization_17_November#Victims | [21:04] |
trinque | otoh china is smoghell | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | punkman anyway, terrorism's useless for this purpose. | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | gotta convict them to be beheaded, along with the entire fambly, through plain legal proceedings. | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | then carry it out. | [21:06] |
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punkman | gonna be a long wait for that | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | i guess so. | [21:13] |
punkman | the terrorists never did much anyway, firebomb here and there every few weeks for a while | [21:13] |
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punkman | very few casualties | [21:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37701 @ 0.00053428 = 20.1429 BTC [+] {3} | [21:16] |
asciilifeform | http://cryptome.info/fm30-31b/FM30-31B.htm << relevant historical mega-l0l | [21:16] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1HErFsD ) | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | iirc they killed some cia dude then tapered off after that | [21:16] |
asciilifeform | (Official Truth holds that 'field manual 30-31b' is a ru forgery) | [21:17] |
punkman | CIA station chief was their first one, then they killed some people in the 80s | [21:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46399 @ 0.00054175 = 25.1367 BTC [+] {4} | [21:17] |
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asciilifeform | http://cryptome.org/cia-FM30-31B.htm << moar re: same. | [21:19] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEs5z8 ) | [21:19] |
pete_dushenski | ;;ticker | [21:20] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 291.05, Best ask: 291.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 291.28, 24 hour volume: 74167.38437043, 24 hour low: 281.5, 24 hour high: 312.0, 24 hour vwap: None | [21:20] |
punkman | "the Baris journalist who had come into the possession of FM 30-31B disappeared and was never heard of again" | [21:21] |
punkman | but it's totally a soviet forgery | [21:22] |
asciilifeform | 'The Pentagon document first surfaced in Turkey in 1973 where the newspaper Baris in the midst of a whole range of mysterious acts of violence and brutality which shocked the Turkish society announced the publication of a secretive US document. Thereafter the Baris journalist who had come into the possession of FM 30-31B disappeared and was never heard of again. Despite the apparent danger Turkish Colonel Talat Turhan two year | [21:22] |
asciilifeform | s later published a Turkish translation of the top-secret FM 30-31 and revealed that in Turkey NATO’s secret stay-behind army was codenamed “Counter-Guerrilla” directed by the Special Warfare Department. From Turkey the document found its way to Spain where in 1976 the newspaper Triunfo, despite heavy pressures to prevent the publication, published excerpts of FM 30-31B upon the fall of the Franco dictatorship. In Italy | [21:22] |
asciilifeform | on 27 October 1978 excerpts of FM 30-31B were published by the political magazine L'Europeo, whereupon the printed issues of the magazine were confiscated. The breakthrough for the document came arguably not in the 1970s, but in the 1980s, when in Italy the secret anticommunist P2 Freemason lodge of Licio Gelli was discovered. Among the documents seized by the Italian police ranged also FM 30-31B. The Italian parliamentary inv | [21:22] |
asciilifeform | estigation into P2 decided to publish FM 30-31B in the appendix of the final public parliamentary report on P2 in 1987.' | [21:22] |
* | asciilifeform read the whole thing and observes that if it is a scam, it is a very high quality scam | [21:22] |
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trinque | someday... it's going to be either the longest or shortest trial there ever was | [21:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112852 @ 0.00054015 = 60.957 BTC [-] | [21:24] |
asciilifeform | who will try these folks? martians ? | [21:24] |
asciilifeform | or 'the beoble' ? | [21:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94600 @ 0.00054542 = 51.5967 BTC [+] {4} | [21:26] |
trinque | who knows what the future will bring | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | nothing is ever more common than the delusional notion that "these people" will escape. | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | it hasn't yet occured to date anyone did escape. | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | yet it hasn't yet occured to date anyone skipped on the "impossibru" sauce, either. | [21:28] |
asciilifeform | [21:29] | |
asciilifeform | am i thick or what. i dun get it | [21:29] |
* | mircea_popescu shrugs. | [21:29] |
trinque | uk ruled the whole world; look at them now | [21:29] |
trinque | from where I sit they got theirs | [21:30] |
asciilifeform | anglos still rule their reich | [21:30] |
asciilifeform | just a different branch of family tree | [21:30] |
asciilifeform | smooth change of management, w/out skipping a beat | [21:30] |
trinque | maybe so, and maybe someone will say that's still true of the next thing | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | someone will definitely say that. | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | easiest thing in the world to say, after all. | [21:30] |
asciilifeform | ^ incidentally, this touches on what imho was the major reason for the appeal of the soviet offering in the 'turd world.' | [21:31] |
asciilifeform | namely, that, whatever else could be said about it, | [21:31] |
asciilifeform | no one could confuse it with the anglo offerings. | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | no shortage of the confused. | [21:33] |
asciilifeform | who and where ? | [21:34] |
BingoBoingo | Kicks, further documented http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2643 | [21:34] |
assbot | JL: Entitlement Based Aggression ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEvcr1 ) | [21:34] |
mircea_popescu | "This has become the case with many white employees in retain food establishments who spend their shifts being harangued, threatened and demeaned by hate-spewing black customers who typically spend more on groceries in a visit than many retail food employees make in two weeks. Being a white employee in a city supermarket is like being a peasant on a medieval lord’s land." | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | how the fuck is this a race issue ? | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | servants getting uppity ffs. | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | guy's got money and you're the clerk. go suck his fucking cock omfg. | [21:36] |
asciilifeform | because when the colours are reversed, 'omg111!!111!!1' r4c1sm!! | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | of course being an employee in a supermarket is being a peasant on a lord's land. that is EXACTLY what it is. | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | also exactly what it should be. | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform heh mkay, let's fix stupid by being stupid the other way!!1 | [21:37] |
trinque | #killallmen | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | wtf's next, we're all equal to the supermarket bozo and #holdhands ? | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, petty supermarket hostility bs. guy has better posts imo. | [21:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86500 @ 0.00053767 = 46.5085 BTC [-] | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | i suppose he doesn't know this, but hey, his loss. | [21:39] |
trinque | god damn that cat in the sandal is hilarious | [21:40] |
trinque | 4th time opening it | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/2015cd0f31424b30b7022c8ac229cefa/tumblr_n82k4dCqBH1t0jb24o1_1280.jpg | [21:40] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEwemN ) | [21:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00051702 = 15.614 BTC [-] | [21:42] |
BingoBoingo | [21:43] | |
mircea_popescu | i dunno dude, seems nuts to me. some derp wishes to justify his being an asshole to some woman on the grounds of wide reaching sociodynamics ? | [21:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12015 @ 0.00052569 = 6.3162 BTC [+] | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | what, he's a faitful soldier in the war of whitehood against the evil blacks through not holding the door to some woman ? | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | some people are born to die on plastic carpeting under fluorescent lights srsly. | [21:45] |
BingoBoingo | Dude seems rather obviously nuts, but it seems a symptom of the larger American decay. | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | there was some random retard of equivalent potency i loled at the expense of on trilema. this one was on a trip about how he "is trying to live to the server's expectations" or some shit in a restaurant. | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | the issues people have in their own heads, when those heads are squarely devoid of anything worthwhile... | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | hanbot do you recall which article that was ? | [21:46] |
asciilifeform | from my reading, this is one of those 'nouveau poor', if you will. the absolute most abjectly miserable thing to be in usistan. | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | FOR HIS SINS | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | he's supposed to go "i'm a fuckwad of a lifeform, and not only i deserve every bit of the shit i get, but if i keep course there's going to be more" | [21:47] |
asciilifeform | folks with no experience of 'orcraft', of navigating that world, and having all the 'wrong' 'branded on the tongue' class markers, habits, etc. which set the buggers off | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | not this retarded "blacks made me be stupid and lousy" nonsense | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | asshole comes from a three generations line of jwz "i only wanted to...", and now he doesn't like the just dessers ? | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | fuck him. | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | should have beheaded tsipras when he had the chance. | [21:48] |
asciilifeform | beheaded hamilton. | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | whosoever. | [21:48] |
asciilifeform | (the actual plot of a famous 'alt-history' in usa) | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | lincoln, really, but anyway. | [21:48] |
asciilifeform | 'the probability broach' | [21:48] |
asciilifeform | was even turned into a comic book.. | [21:49] |
asciilifeform | http://www.bigheadpress.com/tpbtgn << now phree on publisher's www. | [21:50] |
assbot | Big Head Press - Thoughtful Stories, Graphic Novels Online And In Print - The Probability Broach: The Graphic Novel, by L. Neil Smith and Scott Bieser ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZrrkg ) | [21:50] |
asciilifeform | pretty lulzy | [21:50] |
BingoBoingo | Millions of noveau poor USians emerge from school every year disadvantaged because they went to "good" schools in the suburbs that insulated them from orcraft | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | i thought us supermarkets all have those sliding autodoors anyway, specifically to deal with the ever growing social awkwardness of usians. | [21:50] |
trinque | sucks to be them; I went to those shitty suburban schools too | [21:50] |
asciilifeform | doors - sop | [21:50] |
asciilifeform | but the people still meet. | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | the fucking problems to have, seriously. | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | they're in kindergarten, there's no other way to look at it. | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | they're in kindergarten and they're whacking each other over the head with the cubes. | [21:51] |
BingoBoingo | [21:51] | |
mircea_popescu | anyway, alf's point re the recent poor is well taken | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | what i don't understand is why do they take it out on the blacks ffs. | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | THEY are to blame, for having believed bush or whoever the fuck they believed. | [21:53] |
trinque | because they're there, and different | [21:53] |
trinque | nothing more | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | in any case, the blacks WERE THERE | [21:53] |
asciilifeform | they will take it out on themselves once a hitler shows up to help with this process. | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | like, before. and for that matter, know the terrain a lot better. | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | i suppose these are the same typically retarded usians that go to india and blame the indians for their inability to dowhatever X they wish to do. | [21:54] |
BingoBoingo | [21:54] | |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo has it | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | not like black dude cold-called you and persuaded you to be poor, motherfuckar! | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | it was your state senator, go talk to him. | [21:54] |
asciilifeform | usa was a very different-flavoured place under the old white gov. | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | yaya | [21:54] |
trinque | cowards, simple as that. | [21:55] |
BingoBoingo | Mostly noveau poor lacks the refinement of the old poor which prevents them from going full orc and riding the welfare train | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | if white bitches spent more time learning how to twerk at age 6, perhaps anyone'd give a lot more of a shit about the problems of white trash. | [21:55] |
trinque | americans are subconsciously terrified of their own govt | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | what, he's special or something ? can't fit a shoeshine box in his hands ? | [21:56] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: not just. all sorts of bureaucratic gears won't turn for you if you have wrong face | [21:56] |
trinque | they simultaneously derive some kind of self-esteem from this fact | [21:56] |
trinque | so no, they're not going to lash out at the monster, just some weird looking guy if they run across one | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform so don't hold open the door to THAT OFFICE then! | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | trinque or an incapacitated woman with children, why not | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | what's she gonna do, bleed on you ? | [21:56] |
trinque | yeah | [21:56] |
trinque | the louder my "countrymen" shout about nonsense the more I smell pissed pants | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | dude's such a public danger, why doesn't he go around at night through the ghetto bumping into derps and immitating anything they say! | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | (yes, i used to do that, at that age. it was fun, fwiww.) | [21:57] |
trinque | why's every american an anxiety-ridden, pill-popping nutcase? | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | that's what i wanna know! | [21:58] |
trinque | couldn't possibly be the unpredictable insanity of the economic system, or the brutal, violent govt | [21:58] |
trinque | probably the black bitch | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | trinque, abbot, costello &mp | [21:58] |
trinque | heh | [21:58] |
hanbot | mircea_popescu scratch that, comments section of fried chicken: http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/ | [21:58] |
assbot | Fried chicken on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZsbWH ) | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | hanbot oh right! i knew we had a lol at that thing | [21:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116100 @ 0.00052869 = 61.3809 BTC [+] {3} | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform ironically enough, with a beheaded hamilton the us would still to this day be a sort of congo. | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | the brief excursion into world relevancy of the shithole in question is wholly owed to hamilton & co. | [22:02] |
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mircea_popescu | the "evil bankers & capitalists" | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | true enough that it doesn't seem to last, congo is congo. but... it was a decent trip, for as long as it lasted. | [22:02] |
punkman | I got a couple scamcalls from the Congo few months ago | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | bride ? | [22:06] |
punkman | no idea, didn't pick up in time, just saw them in logs | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | twist : punkman's half brother has been in prison in congo since feb | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo i wonder if this is going to lead to a new musical genre off the old superhero comics tree. just like destitute niggers had their stupid gangsta shit. | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | christian glam rock bands singin' about how they don't hold doors open at supermarket | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | "whatever... i slam doors and i kill people! it's my hot country and i do what i want!" | [22:08] |
trinque | there's some kind of shitty white supremacist "punk" I think | [22:08] |
trinque | I've long wondered where all the supposed neonazis are; met one a while back and I think all he did was shoot guns and get tattoes | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | should make for some pretty easy enthusiastic teenage poon, if it ever takes off. | [22:09] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: I don't see how it doesn't happen as I only anticipate the rape of white trash to increase. | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno... there really aren't that many blacks. | [22:12] |
trinque | it's strange; there's something similar between the guy's door-holding and the utter lack of any dangerous subculture | [22:13] |
trinque | as if all we can do is "act as if X" | [22:13] |
trinque | somebody more well-read could identify what's malfunctioning in american identity-synthesis there | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | !s not a country | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | who was i having this discussion with ? | [22:14] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Sure, but there's going to be a lot more Chinese. It also really doesn't help the newer generations of white trash that they are ill equipped mentally, physically, and morally to cope. | [22:14] |
trinque | mircea_popescu: yeah, what you said about a country being a place where young men know who they are, it's right on the mark | [22:14] |
trinque | I considered that particular line for a long while after | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo on the positive side, all good things ever come out of an ill equipped kid stuck in a blender. | [22:14] |
assbot | : http://s.b-a.link/?q=not+a+country | [22:15] |
BingoBoingo | Of course. | [22:15] |
kakobrekla | the timeout on the search is outrageous. | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla mthreat said it's being moved to another server. | [22:16] |
kakobrekla | aha, i had that particular http request in mind, but good to know | [22:17] |
kakobrekla | 60 seconds, exactly. | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | trinque and that's what multiculturalism actually is, ftr. given that it is SO COMPLICATED to have a cultural superstructure that allows any semblance of passible solution to that, and given that any sort of formal proof of superiority and inferiority ~AMONG THAT SET~, strictly, strictly among that set is so hopeless, | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | you're way the fuck better off just letting everybody use their own answers than trying to force some sort of homogenity. | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | obviously you can't have "multiculturalism" among things that aren't even subcultures, let alone cultures in their own right. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | but go explain to taleb why he should stop wearing the facial hair style he does. because why ? reasons ? he got reasons too. | [22:19] |
BingoBoingo | ;;google knockout game | [22:22] |
gribble | Knockout game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [22:22] |
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trinque | hm, it's like in the place where culture might develop, they've placed a culture-shredder | [22:22] |
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trinque | I wonder whether anyone actually intended it. It seems too well designed, that you create this concept "multiculturalism" which by definition subsumes whatever particular ideas you might have as an individual. | [22:25] |
trinque | but you see.. in order for us to hold hands multiculturally, there are going to have to be some rules... | [22:25] |
trinque | where have I seen this kind of short circuiting before | [22:26] |
trinque | like in portland you can come to work at a software company as a male with a skirt on and your nails done, no shoes on, so long as you shut the fuck up and work | [22:26] |
trinque | not that I mind that at all, but it illustrates the "make any choice, so long as your domain of choosing is entirely irrelevant" | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | the original concept is merely commentary, on lengthy extant tradition, and it stands on its own as a perfectly sensible term of art in its field. | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | except, all that stuff's in french. | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | that the usians can not read and regularly hang themselves in the fancy underwear they bought in paris is not the underwear's fault. | [22:28] |
trinque | lol | [22:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133650 @ 0.00053734 = 71.8155 BTC [+] {2} | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | how exactly is arbitrary activity "culture" now... | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | srsly, painting your nails ? what culture is this ? | [22:29] |
trinque | just a matter of words meaning whatever ya like | [22:29] |
trinque | if there's a facebook group for it, it's a culture | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | no wonder the code doesn't work. | [22:30] |
trinque | if there's a github, there's a community | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | the term for this is subculture | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | tho even that may be a stretch | [22:30] |
trinque | gotta have that other thing of which to be "sub" | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | The United MultiSubCultural States of America | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | nb. | [22:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58500 @ 0.00051339 = 30.0333 BTC [-] {3} | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | reminds me of "romania multilateral dezvoltata" | [22:31] |
cazalla | mircea_popescu, would you give any weight to studies that show multiculti undermines social trust? (i try to keep in mind these are studies done by gov dept) | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | how do you measure "social trust" ? | [22:32] |
cazalla | muh feels of course | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | yeah well, here's the thing : the variable you are likely calling this is a direct inverse of graph connectivity. | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | which means it is being undermined by improved communication. | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | it stands to intuitive reason if you look at it : the more people can talk to more people, the less any individual talk can be trusted, yes ? | [22:34] |
cazalla | my experience is that no-one talks to anyone | [22:34] |
mircea_popescu | once software acquired the ability to be "updated online", atomic software versions became less trustworthy. | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | because instead of doing anything right, people just slap it together and "we'll do an update later" | [22:35] |
trinque | cazalla: I greet neighbors or people on the street here and they look down | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | technology's your enemy there, not anything to do with society. | [22:35] |
trinque | I still do it, because fuck them. | [22:35] |
trinque | but that was a nice thing about Texan (sub)culture | [22:35] |
trinque | you goddamn greet people when you walk by | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | trinque all of them !? | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | i walked by at least 1k people today. | [22:36] |
trinque | well there are unspoken rules of it | [22:36] |
cazalla | trinque, i talk to my neighbour over the back but i couldn't tell you who else lives in this street.. growing up it was rare not to know | [22:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63014 @ 0.00055212 = 34.7913 BTC [+] {2} | [22:36] |
trinque | I knew and drank with everybody I lived in an apt building with in tx | [22:36] |
trinque | dunno any of these nervous fucks | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | you were twenty then! | [22:36] |
trinque | sure that might be a factor | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | older people eventually figure out everyone's an idiot anyway | [22:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23518 @ 0.00054815 = 12.8914 BTC [-] | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | unrelatedly, http://36.media.tumblr.com/717f39f2ffb3104818c25cf446c0798e/tumblr_n942laTGgk1qc2yxpo1_1280.jpg | [22:49] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY1dDx ) | [22:49] |
asciilifeform | ^ first-class lathe work ! | [22:51] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1200053 << iirc the item in question used something like 'people leaving doors unlocked at night' | [22:52] |
assbot | Logged on 14-07-2015 01:29:17; mircea_popescu: how do you measure "social trust" ? | [22:52] |
mircea_popescu | so max social trust = up on the mountain ? | [22:52] |
* | asciilifeform when first heard that anyone, anywhere since ancient egypt where locks were supposedly invented, ever left their house unlocked other than by mistake, was floored | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | i scarcely bothered. | [22:53] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: iirc the talk was exclusively of reasonably populated places | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | for one thing, because dumbass russian locks, kept no one out. | [22:54] |
trinque | meh, I leave windows open all night on the ground floor | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | fgor the other, because orly, you're gonna ROB ME ?!!? | [22:54] |
asciilifeform | even very cheap lock gives extra second or two to aim ? | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | you ever read the story of the whores and the thieves ? | [22:54] |
trinque | only crime around here is someone comes and steals your grill off the porch | [22:54] |
asciilifeform | ali baba ? | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | no , no, on trilema. | [22:55] |
asciilifeform | can't recall one | [22:55] |
asciilifeform | http://klmist.com/keysreport.html << unrelated lol | [22:57] |
assbot | KLMist - Bitcoin blockchain keys report ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY24En ) | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2011/spargatorii-si-curva/ | [22:58] |
assbot | Spargatorii si curva on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY2bQ1 ) | [22:59] |
mircea_popescu | !rated phf | [22:59] |
assbot | You rated user phf on 24-Jun-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood. | [22:59] |
asciilifeform | in other 'news', microshit has bitcoin nodes on its campus | [22:59] |
mircea_popescu | !rate phf 2 Actually managed to compile Eulora on OS/X, which is a first. | [22:59] |
assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/0341b9533b890be1 | [22:59] |
mircea_popescu | !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.phf.2:6b5c1f07e27f7b7ae974773e4c050cfce50f47f405a2e9fdf2666a78059e721a | [22:59] |
assbot | Successfully updated the rating for phf from 1 to 2 with note: Actually managed to compile Eulora on OS/X, which is a first. | [22:59] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes ^ | [22:59] |
asciilifeform | speaking of whom, | [23:04] |
asciilifeform | i advise all folk in usa with a spare twenty to get that box spoken of earlier | [23:04] |
asciilifeform | so it doesn't end up like pogo, with my desk having the only such for months | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | ;;bc,stats | [23:05] |
scoopbot_revived | New Java Zero Day Discovered Targeting NATO http://qntra.net/2015/07/new-java-zero-day-discovered-targeting-nato/ | [23:05] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 365212 | Current Difficulty: 5.1076366303481926E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 366911 | Next Difficulty In: 1699 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47150109359.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.68703 | [23:05] |
asciilifeform | 'The attack leverages a three-year-old vulnerability in Microsoft Windows Common Controls CVE-2012-015 which is addressed in MS12-027.' | [23:06] |
asciilifeform | Run Moar Winblowz, NATO !! | [23:06] |
asciilifeform | http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/hacking-team-uses-uefi-bios-rootkit-to-keep-rcs-9-agent-in-target-systems << moar lulziez | [23:07] |
assbot | Hacking Team Uses UEFI BIOS Rootkit to Keep RCS 9 Agent in Target Systems ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY2SsH ) | [23:07] |
asciilifeform | ends with the obligatory [install nsa's ] 'Update the BIOS whenever there is a security patch' | [23:08] |
punkman | ok turdatron must hate me, seems it even ate last email which I sent with "swaks" | [23:11] |
* | punkman flaps hands | [23:12] |
BingoBoingo | punkman: Have you tried sending with 'mail' | [23:13] |
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punkman | BingoBoingo: does it do attachments? | [23:14] |
BingoBoingo | I don't know? Only one way to find out | [23:14] |
BingoBoingo | Ah, on my system it doesn't seem to | [23:15] |
punkman | swaks is a crazy perl script for smtp testing, it works. | [23:16] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: http://www.bigheadpress.com/tpbtgn?page=45 | [23:17] |
assbot | Big Head Press - Thoughtful Stories, Graphic Novels Online And In Print - The Probability Broach: The Graphic Novel, by L. Neil Smith and Scott Bieser ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY3I8R ) | [23:17] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: lol | [23:18] |
decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1200024 < the us had multiple cultures, they were not tolerated by the elites | [23:19] |
assbot | Logged on 14-07-2015 01:15:43; mircea_popescu: obviously you can't have "multiculturalism" among things that aren't even subcultures, let alone cultures in their own right. | [23:19] |
mircea_popescu | it did ? | [23:19] |
decimation | absolutely. I've mentioned the german community that used to exist, for instance | [23:20] |
asciilifeform | there were also urban irish | [23:20] |
asciilifeform | and a number of others | [23:20] |
decimation | us cities around 1900 were full of ethnic ghettos | [23:21] |
decimation | the black were imported to bust these up in order to prevent 'independent vote blocs' | [23:21] |
trinque | doesn't seem like those transplants took | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | eh for chrissakes. you and your wife going on a cruise does not now constitute an "english culture" in oceania. | [23:21] |
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trinque | my family goes back to a big italian clan that moved over in I think the 30s or so | [23:21] |
trinque | do you think I have any connections? | [23:21] |
trinque | hell no I don't | [23:22] |
asciilifeform | everybody who wouldn't bow to massachusetts got bugsprayed. | [23:22] |
decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1199899 < the majority of these blacks are actually 'spending' usg's money | [23:22] |
assbot | Logged on 14-07-2015 00:33:04; mircea_popescu: servants getting uppity ffs. | [23:22] |
asciilifeform | ^ | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | pecunia non olet. | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | they have it, you want it, fuck you. | [23:22] |
decimation | maryland, for instance, has a 'poor people health insurance' where they are required to pay $1, if they can afford it | [23:22] |
decimation | most can't afford it | [23:22] |
trinque | lol how do they means-test that? | [23:23] |
decimation | they don't, it's purely optional | [23:23] |
trinque | ask for a dollar, and then write down the "no" response? | [23:23] |
decimation | (medicaid) | [23:23] |
decimation | yeah I think that's how it works | [23:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61593 @ 0.0005364 = 33.0385 BTC [-] | [23:24] |
mircea_popescu | and ftr i am naught impressed with this "got bugsprayed" bs. | [23:25] |
mircea_popescu | ei ce pazeau ? | [23:25] |
cazalla | decimation, i read the other day this Fair Housing update will result in blacks being bussed in to the rich white liberal areas.. btw Obama looking old as fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lSLIhXrs1Y | [23:25] |
assbot | Weekly Address: Making Our Communities Stronger Through Fair Housing - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3XVwf ) | [23:25] |
trinque | cazalla: heh I got bussed as a white kid to the shittier public school back in the day for the same reason | [23:25] |
asciilifeform | recall mr mold: 'my daughter's preschool is literally in a ruin - that is, a (nicely renovated) space which used to be part of a Catholic church. (The preschool is the former convent. The rest of the church remains a ruin proper.) Where are the people who used to pray in this church? They fled. Why? Because they were afraid for their physical safety.' | [23:27] |
decimation | cazalla: Obama's a lame duck, the most he can do is hand out goodies so that democrats show up to vote next time | [23:27] |
cazalla | taking the bus to school such a strange concept.. i use to ride my bmx doing bunny hops and all sorts along the way | [23:27] |
asciilifeform | 'I know, I know. It's gauche to even bring this kind of stuff up. It's not part of our consensus reality. It's not part of our consensus history. When it comes to actual history, however,...' | [23:27] |
decimation | cazalla: most us towns - even little cities - have a massive bus infrastructure just to take kids to and from school - and nobody else | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | eh, nothing was ever built by the afraid. | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | what, is this the universal excuse now ? "why is he fucking dumb ?" "he is ~~~affraid for his own physical safety~~~ magic wordsd!!!" "oh ok then, all is well, carry on" | [23:28] |
decimation | mircea_popescu: which is why they left, and it is crumbling | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | good riddance. | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | by any practical measure they were an offense to the land they shaded. | [23:29] |
mod6 | So over the weekend and today, was working on building a new gentoo-amd64-nomultilib (glibc) instance to test out application of patches with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE as the base. Was able to build static binaries with gentoo & glibc just fine with both a modified auto-static (auto.sh) and with a slightly modified stator.sh script. | [23:29] |
asciilifeform | good work mod6 | [23:29] |
asciilifeform | modified how ? | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 they be actually static ? | [23:29] |
mod6 | Upon successful compilation, both static builds were able to pull at least 150`000 blocks from mp's node. | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | pretty cool | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform btw is your node stuck ? | [23:30] |
* | asciilifeform had actual static, in 'stator', compare with the elf attached there | [23:30] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: not at all | [23:30] |
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asciilifeform | hasn't been stuck once since i moved the clock, afaik | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | tried to track it with a node, it resulted in a stuck node 0.O | [23:30] |
mod6 | mircea_popescu: it appears to me that they are. I have two build logs (one for with auto.sh and one with stator.sh). They can be found: | [23:30] |
mod6 | http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/gentoo-amd64-nomultilib-glibc-20150713-AutoStaticv006-buildlog.txt | [23:30] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: interesting! please say if you are able to replicate this | [23:30] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY5bMi ) | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | workin' on it. | [23:30] |
asciilifeform | (on clean box) | [23:30] |
mod6 | http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/gentoo-amd64-nomultilib-glibc-20150713-statorBuildScript-buildlog.txt | [23:30] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY5dDW ) | [23:31] |
cazalla | decimation, they had a bus for the high school i attended and when i got sent to naughty boy school i was given a train ticket which provide free travel (which was self defeating in that i no longer had to jump the train but could now ride legit for free lol) | [23:31] |
asciilifeform | anybody else wedged ? | [23:31] |
asciilifeform | (other than mircea_popescu) | [23:31] |
mod6 | (at the bottom of these sizeable files, you can see me run `ldd` and `readelf` against the output binaries) | [23:31] |
asciilifeform | me==365216 | [23:31] |
mod6 | I have created a simple build script that will pull all of the patches, verify them, apply the patches at the top of the file. Along with anything else that was required. | [23:32] |
asciilifeform | nice | [23:32] |
decimation | cazalla: at least you rode transport that others in the city could use | [23:33] |
asciilifeform | ^ just to be clear re: above, my node is not, as far as i can tell, wedged! | [23:33] |
mod6 | This is all leading up to a new "patching guide" that I'm working on. Which is basically finished, save the fact I've yet to decide which direction to go on the build script. On one hand, I really love how simple and clean stator.sh is, but with auto.sh, I like how it automatically pulls the archives for you and creates the directories. etc. | [23:33] |
decimation | my node has taken almost 2 weeks to get to 264k | [23:33] |
mod6 | Anyway, working on it. :] | [23:33] |
* | assbot gives voice to ag3nt_zer0 | [23:33] |
trinque | mod6: pretty cool! | [23:33] |
mod6 | decimation: plugged into mp's node? | [23:33] |
trinque | hi ag3nt_zer0 | [23:33] |
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ag3nt_zer0 | hey trinque | [23:34] |
decimation | is on' ascii's node I think | [23:34] |
mod6 | ah | [23:34] |
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mod6 | <@asciilifeform> modified how ? << with stator, I needed to add back in 'no-shared', according to http://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/Compilation_and_Installation this is required for us (probably). And I also needed to modify your line `cd bitcoin/bitcoin/src;` to `cd bitcoin/src;`. All of the things are in the build log, I tried not to leave anything out. | [23:37] |
assbot | Compilation and Installation - OpenSSLWiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY67An ) | [23:37] |
ag3nt_zer0 | several months back I was at the plug and play bitcoin meetup... Nathaniel Popper was there talking about his book... anyway, after the talk I was standing in line to ask him to clarify something when this familiar-looking chap gets in line behind me. asks me who what etc... | [23:37] |
mod6 | Those were the only changes to stator that were required to make it fit with the release artifact. | [23:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74689 @ 0.00053922 = 40.2738 BTC [+] {2} | [23:38] |
mod6 | thx trinque, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, et al. :] | [23:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 198721 @ 0.00055277 = 109.847 BTC [+] {5} | [23:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 182100 @ 0.000534 = 97.2414 BTC [-] {4} | [23:40] |
ag3nt_zer0 | at the time I was all zigzagged about Trilema and so I asked him if he had heard of it... he scanned the files that the eye accesses when it looks down/right and there was a spark... he said "what's that?"... I said "dunno, run by this guy Mircea something or other"... he said "oh, that guy doesnt like me"... later he asked for my number and when he pulled out his phone I saw his name was Tim Swanson | [23:40] |
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BingoBoingo | !b 1 | [23:41] |
assbot | Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2TF5RBP.txt ) | [23:41] |
ag3nt_zer0 | trivial perhaps, and not to make fun of him, but I thought it was pretty funny... | [23:42] |
ag3nt_zer0 | http://www.businessinsider.com/proxyham-anonymising-router-project-mysteriously-closed-down-government-rhino-caudill-2015-7 | [23:44] |
assbot | ProxyHam anonymising router project mysteriously closed down - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY72kr ) | [23:44] |
decimation | ag3nt_zer0: was already done, look in the logs | [23:44] |
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ag3nt_zer0 | decimation: thanks. guess I should make that a habit before posting here... | [23:48] |
trinque | 'tis the custom | [23:49] |
cazalla | i think the tim swanson story more than makes up for it ag3nt_zer0 | [23:49] |
ag3nt_zer0 | hehe | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51444 @ 0.00055465 = 28.5334 BTC [+] {2} | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117256 @ 0.00055519 = 65.0994 BTC [+] | [23:51] |
asciilifeform | mod6: rather peculiar that you had to add in 'no-shared' - witness that there are no shared deps in my executable (attached to 'stator' post on ml) | [23:55] |
mod6 | well, actually, I didn't /have/ to at all. | [23:59] |
mod6 | every time i've built the 'stator' before, the output binary was fine. | [23:59] |
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