Forum logs for 23 Jul 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
thickasthieves | "The federal judge that presided over my case is not an African-American. She is a nigger." | [00:00] |
thickasthieves | "Dude, they called you elfin, when you are very clearly a satyr." lol | [00:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00081327 = 5.7742 BTC [-] | [00:04] |
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thickasthieves | http://coinbrief.net/debunking-kipochi-mpesa-bitcoin-kenya/ | [00:14] |
assbot | Debunking Kipochi, Mpesa & Bitcoin in East Africa - CoinBrief | [00:14] |
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BingoBoingo | !up princessnell | [00:15] |
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fluffypony | hah hah | [00:17] |
fluffypony | fucking idiots | [00:17] |
thickasthieves | <+mike_c> and seattle just drizzles at you every day of the year. /// so i will fly there and settle this once and for all! | [00:17] |
mike_c | now is actually the time to go. it actually only rains nine months a year. summers are beautiful. | [00:18] |
thickasthieves | well shit itll be a month before i go, but i want teh rainz | [00:20] |
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thickasthieves | my wife wants to look at trees n stuff though, so i guess good weather is for the best | [00:21] |
mike_c | well, the only rainforest in america is right there, so you could both have your wish | [00:22] |
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thickasthieves | good log? | [00:36] |
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BingoBoingo | http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431 | [00:38] |
assbot | The Joel on Software Discussion Group (CLOSED) - Why I Hate Frameworks | [00:38] |
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danielpbarron | thickasthieves, meh sorta; I linked to the log in my rating for him | [00:46] |
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jurov | last sentence before kick | [00:52] |
mike_c | hm. "suprising" to whom? | [00:53] |
BingoBoingo | Mircea generally writes on the interwebs so you can always zoom his text to any size you like | [00:55] |
danielpbarron | good thing the devs have their chat rooms to lord over; they don't really control much of anything else | [00:55] |
BingoBoingo | ;;rate danielpbarron Religious thinker, Meat dealer | [00:55] |
gribble | Error: 'Religious' is not a valid integer. | [00:55] |
BingoBoingo | ;;rate danielpbarron 3 Religious thinker, Meat dealer | [00:56] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating for user danielpbarron has changed from 2 to 3. | [00:56] |
danielpbarron | wow a 3; i feel special now | [00:56] |
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BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: Well, you rate people well and did indeed deliver ~20 million meat | [00:58] |
danielpbarron | the -otc crowd says I don't know how to rate | [00:58] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: Well, that's why the most important part of reading a WoT is asking a rater about their ratings | [01:00] |
BingoBoingo | Bitcore, BitPay’s open-source javascript bitcoin library, now uses Fedor Indutny‘s highly optimized cryptography in the browser, which leads to significant speed improvements and an improved user experience for applications built with Bitcore. << Shit's prolly being optimized out | [01:01] |
BingoBoingo | http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/07/22/bitcore-3000-is-three-times-faster-for-bitcoin-on-the-web.html | [01:01] |
assbot | Bitcore 3000 is Three Times Faster for Bitcoin on the Web | The BitPay Blog | [01:01] |
jurov | lose yer coins 3x faster!!! | [01:01] |
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mircea_popescu |
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mircea_popescu | ^ my fav exercise is, "calculate the pound weight of a cubic mile of water" | [01:08] |
mircea_popescu | (a cubic km of water weighs 1trn kgs, of course) | [01:08] |
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assbot | Well find a new earth within 20 years | Around the World with Ken Ham | [01:12] |
danielpbarron | ken ham is a false teacher that leads many to hell | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | A Black Hat spokeswoman told Reuters that the talk had been canceled at the request of lawyers for Carnegie-Mellon University, where the speakers work as researchers. <<< this is why scientists of today are in no sense the scientists of 1914, and even less the scientists of 1814. | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | the notion that the current crop has any sort of moral or ethical weight is quite perilous. | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu |
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thickasthieves | must be some kinda camera mount | [01:20] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rated gmaxwell | [01:22] |
gribble | You rated user gmaxwell on Sun Apr 8 12:54:19 2012, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: hypocritical idiot.. | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | wow, i was right two years ago. | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, what specific gloating is this in reference to ? | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | tell wikipedia boi i said citation needed. | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | i gloat over fat fucks being predictably stupid, not over the deck being stacked against them. | [01:23] |
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thickasthieves | "Another benefit to Tacocoin is its active community. Tacocoin was started on reddit, with the sole intent of having fun. The coin has no premine, and steady growth, because our community values trust and fun, not getting rich quick." | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | >< | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | if it were about eating cunt i could see the angle. | [01:27] |
fluffypony | http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/22/britain-just-decriminalised-online-game-piracy/ | [01:27] |
assbot | Britain just decriminalised online game piracy | VG247 | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | but this entire "doge got killed for beign stupid so we're going to do it once again because we really are that dumb" thing... | [01:27] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Well in that article space isn't important, because aliens go to hell | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | "Starting in 2015, persistent file-sharers will be sent four warning letters explaining their actions are illegal, but if the notes are ignored no further action will be taken." doh. | [01:28] |
thickasthieves | alrighty | [01:29] |
thickasthieves | do they even go after people in US anymore? | [01:29] |
thickasthieves | there was that 5 strikes thing or whatever but i never heard of anyone losing their web access | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | bout the same yeah. | [01:30] |
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thickasthieves | "I am a fan of making volume obsolete as an indicator" ~bitcoin trader | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431 << as usual, joel gets it exactly right. this is why i hate - not frameworks - but java. and all the other hipster languages ran by children with delusions of skills and importance they don't actually have. | [01:31] |
assbot | The Joel on Software Discussion Group (CLOSED) - Why I Hate Frameworks | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | wikipedia being a fine example. | [01:31] |
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asciilifeform | camera mount with beer glass << if you stayed awake in 'intro to differential equations,' -- you can build this. | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | the visual effect tho. | [01:39] |
asciilifeform | carnegie mellon << 'Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office. But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Just scientific Bondo, sanded to perfecti | [01:40] |
asciilifeform | on and painted with meticulous care.' (mr mold) | [01:40] |
BingoBoingo | Lol ethereum is selling their own altcoin nao, https://www.ethereum.org/ | [01:40] |
assbot | ethereum | [01:40] |
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BingoBoingo | "People interested in acquiring ether to build and distribute decentralized applications, or to pay for their usage, are able to do so in the Genesis Sale using bitcoin, thereby locking-in their supply at a known price. This sale will help us fund the continued development of the software platform, scheduled for release in the winter of 2014/2015." << Preorder on a BFL window. Thing could waterialize winter 2014 or winter 2015 | [01:44] |
thickasthieves | like anyone will give a shit by then | [01:45] |
Pierre_Rochard | BingoBoingo: my favorite part “This document is not a solicitation for investment and does not pertain in any way to an offering of securities in any jurisdiction.” | [01:45] |
thickasthieves | because we say so! | [01:45] |
Pierre_Rochard | wonder if they’ll respond like mircea_popescu did when the SEC comes knocking… | [01:45] |
BingoBoingo | Pierre_Rochard: Even though by simply the way things are they seems to like BFL be actually selling equity rather than product. | [01:45] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform hardly an argument pro carnegie melon, that. | [01:46] |
mircea_popescu | Pierre_Rochard too many people want to appear mp without putting in the work to actually be mp, nor fronting the risk etc. | [01:46] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: not an argument 'pro', merely statement of fact. accept funding from bureaucrats - then eat shit when they command. elementary. | [01:47] |
thickasthieves | who actually wants these smart contracts anyway? i dont get who ethereum is providing for | [01:47] |
mircea_popescu | how about not accept funding for bureaucrats because there's no funds in bureaucrat hands ? | [01:47] |
mircea_popescu | then we can do science. and actual art. | [01:48] |
mircea_popescu | and all the social media feminists can spend their time writing things on tits. | [01:48] |
BingoBoingo | If ethereum manages to ship this winter I doubt it's market cap will survive at a size greater than ATC's through April next year | [01:48] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone wants to enter an etereum short lemme know. | [01:48] |
thickasthieves | you're betting on ethereum?! | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | you can buy ethereum coins for half what they charge, deliverable jan 15th 2015. | [01:49] |
thickasthieves | heh | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | i guess i can make a 3 month future too, if enough demand. | [01:50] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Well atm during their pre-sale they price their coins off of a timer, with 1 BTC buying less coins as the timer increments. Haven't seen the details. | [01:50] |
thickasthieves | itd at least be a fun way to piss them off and fuck up their ipo a bit | [01:50] |
mircea_popescu | thickasthieves sure. | [01:50] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo fuck them, whatever they ask for is too much. | [01:51] |
thickasthieves | lol why does their home page give away desktop backgrounds? wtf | [01:51] |
thickasthieves | "Turing complete contracts on a blockchain." | [01:52] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Of course. K sale ends in roughly 41-42 days, in just under two weeks their offering goes from 2000 per BTC to 1970 per BTC (fucking hippies) | [01:52] |
mircea_popescu | you don't understand traffix, thickasthieves | [01:52] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo where is this advertised ? | [01:52] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Their home page. | [01:53] |
mircea_popescu | how did this work again lessee | [01:53] |
thickasthieves | "Ethereum Genesis Sale" they call it | [01:53] |
thickasthieves | awesome | [01:53] |
mircea_popescu | ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" for 1 BTC. | [01:53] |
gribble | Error: 'for' is not a valid price input. | [01:53] |
mircea_popescu | ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" 1 BTC. | [01:53] |
gribble | Order id 21133 created. | [01:53] |
thickasthieves | "WARNING: DO NOT PURCHASE ETH IF YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERT IN DEALING WITH | [01:53] |
thickasthieves | CRYPTOGRAPHIC TOKENS AND BLOCKCHAIN-BASED SOFTWARE SYSTEMS" | [01:53] |
BingoBoingo | Whole site is a js turd | [01:53] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;view 21133 | [01:53] |
thickasthieves | wow | [01:53] |
gribble | #21133 Tue Jul 22 18:53:45 2014 mircea_popescu SELL 5000.0 ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014 @ 1 BTC. (None) | [01:54] |
thickasthieves | my soul hurts now | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" 1 BTC "Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch." | [01:54] |
gribble | Order id 21134 created. | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | ;;view 21134 | [01:54] |
gribble | #21134 Tue Jul 22 18:54:18 2014 mircea_popescu SELL 5000.0 ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014 @ 1 BTC (Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch.) | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo or whoever has a reddit acct : put that loglink in ? | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | aw shit bad date. | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2015" 1 BTC "Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch." | [01:54] |
gribble | Order id 21135 created. | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | that one. | [01:55] |
BingoBoingo | K, In the better purchases department http://t.co/rFyjQ2GNsu | [01:55] |
assbot | Sexy Saffron's Clips | [01:55] |
mircea_popescu | ;;remove 21134 | [01:55] |
gribble | Order 21134 removed. | [01:55] |
mircea_popescu | ;;remove 21133 | [01:55] |
gribble | Order 21133 removed. | [01:55] |
mircea_popescu | !up DoctorBTC | [01:57] |
-assbot- | You voiced DoctorBTC for 30 minutes. | [01:57] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;view 21131 | [01:57] |
gribble | #21131 Tue Jul 22 18:01:45 2014 DoctorBTC SELL 1.0 OTC Handholding @ 0.1 BTC (I'll gently guide you through registering and authing with gribble) | [01:57] |
mircea_popescu | ^ nice idea that. | [01:57] |
DoctorBTC | lol | [01:57] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust assbot DoctorBTC | [01:57] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask DoctorBTC!~DoctorBTC@unaffiliated/doctorbtc. Trust relationship from user assbot to user DoctorBTC: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=DoctorBTC | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=DoctorBTC | Rated since: Tue Apr 30 19:24:50 2013 | [01:57] |
DoctorBTC | logs get all filled up watching people explain... | [01:57] |
mircea_popescu | it's needed here like weekly or so. | [01:57] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2bfwaw/mircea_popescu_offers_a_short_of_etherium_coins/ | [01:57] |
assbot | Mircea Popescu offers a short of Etherium coins up to 1 KiloBTC's worth at 5000 per BTC deliverable in 2015 : CryptoCurrency | [01:57] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo so now, elementary economic theory : if one actually WANTS ethereum coins, they'll buy from me. | [01:59] |
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mircea_popescu | watch how nobody does, and then watch the ethereum people lie about how they sold however many. | [01:59] |
mircea_popescu | because yes, totally, this happens. | [01:59] |
thickasthieves | reddit deleted my link to your ethereum thing | [01:59] |
thickasthieves | mine said "Eccentric European Eviscerates Ethereum's Ether " | [01:59] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: You forget the mp eats babies crowd and "momentum traders" who want to flip the thing right away | [01:59] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo yes, i am forgetting the idiots. | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | supposedly there's "investors" involved in these crummy shits. | [02:00] |
thickasthieves | i guess mods got me on speed dial or sumth | [02:00] |
thickasthieves | :( | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | thickasthieves maybe too many e's. | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | stop dropping the Es man | [02:00] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: I like to think of them as Patrons of the Derps | [02:00] |
thickasthieves | art is ded | [02:02] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2behuy/doge_just_got_dumped/ << "Cryptsy data from http://doge.yottabyte.nu/ shows that we are down to 138MIL TOTAL Buy order. | [02:02] |
BingoBoingo | If you simply look at the chart of buy vs sell orders, it can be intuitive to say that some whale decided to cash out. | [02:02] |
BingoBoingo | Now, what do we do about this? | [02:02] |
BingoBoingo | Once more, as a reminder, we need to create a reason for people to want to buy in into Dogecoin, and for whales to hold their stash. | [02:02] |
assbot | Doge just got dumped. : dogecoin | [02:02] |
BingoBoingo | Posting memes and jokes won't do. We have the community, and we have the social media reach. What we don't have is a service or good which is unique to Doge which offers such an incentive to use the currency that Fiat will not dare pee on our post." | [02:02] |
assbot | doge.yottabyte.nu - dogecoin value charts btc/doge | [02:02] |
BingoBoingo | ^ Last victim | [02:02] |
thickasthieves | lol | [02:03] |
thickasthieves | "What we don't have is a service or good which is unique to Doge which offers such an incentive to use the currency that Fiat will not dare pee on our post." full circle | [02:03] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [02:05] |
BingoBoingo | http://altcoinherald.com/altcoins-currently-community-takeovers/ << Tales from the Bagholder's social club | [02:05] |
assbot | Altcoins That Are Currently In Community Takeover | [02:05] |
mircea_popescu | "we have the community, it just so happens to be a community of worthless retards. o noes!" | [02:06] |
mircea_popescu | must suck, you know, to be one of these fucktards, earnestly believing that everyone's equal and groups are great, | [02:06] |
mircea_popescu | finding yourself confronted with the sad reality that people aren't equal and groups suck. | [02:07] |
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thickasthieves | they wont notice | [02:07] |
thickasthieves | just need a better group | [02:07] |
mircea_popescu | course they won't notice. anything to avoid that ego wound. but still... | [02:08] |
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mircea_popescu | !up Adohgg | [02:11] |
-assbot- | You voiced Adohgg for 30 minutes. | [02:11] |
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mircea_popescu | how much you gettin' paid ? | [02:11] |
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BingoBoingo | %d | [02:16] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 665597.03 in 1508 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -3.14 | [02:16] |
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BingoBoingo | OMG ATC network is running nearly even!!! | [02:17] |
mircea_popescu | well mike_c wanted stabilisation so i guess mike_c gets stabilisation. | [02:17] |
BingoBoingo | ;;8ball how much does a petahash of mining hardware sell for anyways | [02:17] |
gribble | The outlook is good. | [02:17] |
mike_c | ;;calc 687*7 | [02:18] |
gribble | 4809 | [02:18] |
mike_c | 5 th/s, not bad | [02:18] |
mike_c | and yes, when mike_c wants something.. it happens :D | [02:18] |
* | mike_c wants all the coinz | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | ;;sell 1000000 "Doge coins deliverable 3 or 6 months" 3 BTC "Or less, negotiable by volume and interval. Looking to carry a few billion." | [02:19] |
gribble | Order id 21136 created. | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | meh not enough zeros. | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | jesus the dog coin is worthless. | [02:22] |
BingoBoingo | ;;buy 1000000 "Altcoins "Altcoin the sha-256 coin mentioned http://therealaltcoin.org/" 175 "satoshis per Altcoin, other quantities and price points may be entertained" | [02:23] |
gribble | Error: 'Altcoin' is not a valid price input. | [02:23] |
assbot | Page not found | The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again | [02:23] |
BingoBoingo | ;;buy 1000000 "Altcoins, the sha-256 coin mentioned http://therealaltcoin.org/" 175 satoshis "per Altcoin, other quantities and price points may be entertained" | [02:23] |
gribble | Order id 21137 created. | [02:23] |
assbot | Page not found | The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again | [02:23] |
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mircea_popescu | thickasthieves BingoBoingo's reddit seems to stick, maybe you're shadowbanned ? | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | one too many trilema links i nthere. | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | !up FoOdies | [02:25] |
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cazalla | ;;getrust BingoBoingo | [02:25] |
gribble | Error: "getrust" is not a valid command. | [02:25] |
cazalla | ;;gettrust BingoBoingo | [02:25] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Trust relationship from user cazalla to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=cazalla&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013 | [02:25] |
FoOdies | multumesc | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | yw | [02:25] |
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BingoBoingo | !up DoctorBTC | [02:28] |
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thickasthieves | selling 1000000 ATC for 100btc | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | https://medium.com/matter/the-martyrdom-of-weev-9e72da8a133d << this is kinda weird bullshit. as far as mah sources tell me, weev is fundamentally a guy of strange habits and little computing capcity who just had the guts to publish material some other guy actually produced. he is in any sense a front, not a hacker. | [02:30] |
assbot | How We All Got Trolled Matter Medium | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | thickasthieves sellout! we're building this great community with memes and whatnot and all you wanna do is sell out for btc ?!?!?! | [02:31] |
cazalla | ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 small ATC trade for BTC | [02:31] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded. | [02:31] |
BingoBoingo | ;;rate cazalla 1 Bunny slayer | [02:32] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: I think the applicable term to describe weev is "fall guy" or "meat shield" | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | "shield of thorns" | [02:33] |
BingoBoingo | Crown of Thrones | [02:34] |
thickasthieves | i'm selling out for the community | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | !b 1 | [02:35] |
assbot | Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/32EM6CF.txt ) | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | ahah epic retort. | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eT8Ip5mpZ0 << check out the awkwardness lmao. | [02:36] |
assbot | Frank Zappa Interview (MTV, 1984) - YouTube | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | worst interviewer ever. | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | bitstein re your hoarders article, you familiar with the power/fetish of power exchange and all that jazz ? | [02:37] |
bitstein | I don't think so. | [02:39] |
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mircea_popescu | ah well then. | [02:41] |
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Pierre_Rochard | mircea_popescu: any reading suggestions on that subject? | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/ | [02:42] |
assbot | The battlefield of the future pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [02:42] |
FoOdies | I can't believe I took 10 minutes of my precious life to read about some mentally retarded homophobic racist conspiracy nutjob hacker | [02:42] |
BigBitz | Cancelled until 2015. | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | a fine excerpt is in there. ballas does a great job of doing the psychiatric basics of it | [02:42] |
FoOdies | thanks obama ( mircea_popescu ) | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | but otherwise you want saussure and levi strauss | [02:42] |
Pierre_Rochard | mircea_popescu: thanks | [02:43] |
mircea_popescu | FoOdies arguably the life of one who's never heard of weev isn't that precious. | [02:43] |
mircea_popescu | BigBitz what is ? | [02:43] |
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FoOdies | arguably | [02:44] |
BigBitz | mircea_popescu: BattleField Hardline. I was just making a funny. | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway. culture is much like ash in the ashtray : the leftovers of all your nights wasted reading stupid shit. | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | o lol. | [02:44] |
FoOdies | why would I need to read about other retards' mishaps when I have a first have experience with fbi+mi5+sri | [02:44] |
FoOdies | hand* | [02:45] |
FoOdies | first hand* | [02:45] |
mircea_popescu | people who have sex read porn, why not. | [02:45] |
BigBitz | wait. what. | [02:46] |
BigBitz | 'read' porn. | [02:46] |
FoOdies | true but I doubt people who've been to an interrecial intersex interspecies orgy are interested in reading any porn | [02:46] |
FoOdies | watch | [02:46] |
FoOdies | read | [02:46] |
FoOdies | you know what he meant | [02:46] |
bitstein | mircea_popescu: Oh yes! I need to re-read it, but that was a great TLP article. | [02:46] |
BigBitz | with mircea_popescu you never /really/ know what he meant. | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | BigBitz im in touch with my feminine side, you chauvinist pigglet. | [02:46] |
belcher | benkay bettyclamp bgupta BigBitz BingoBoingo bitcoinhtx bitstein Blazedout419 blg bounce | [02:46] |
BigBitz | mircea_popescu please. | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | bitstein basically the idea is that a whole generation of mutton has been raised to abhor actual power, and to readily insist it must be traded in for power tokens. | [02:47] |
FoOdies | the cells of the central arrest near casa poporului are very enlightening you know | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | this is why they keep insisting on the bitcoin merchant dead meme, | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | and this is why a lot of other things. | [02:47] |
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BingoBoingo | shit | [02:48] |
FoOdies | god damn it don't I know it | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google literotica.com interrecial intersex interspecies orgy | [02:48] |
gribble | Smashwords – About Nick Foxx, author of 'Tush (The Whole Tale ...: |
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FoOdies | and the mess you have to clean up afterwards | [02:48] |
bitstein | <+mircea_popescu> this is why they keep insisting on the bitcoin merchant dead meme, << you mean the idea that merchants matter? | [02:49] |
BingoBoingo | FoOdies: Mess is why you go to the Goat's house | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | bitstein well the idea that in order for bitcoin to have value, it must be traded out of your hand. | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | ie, they're firm in the notion that nothing in their hand can be of value. a sort of reverse-midas mentality. | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | shitheads convinced everything in their hands turns to shit | [02:49] |
FoOdies | not when you're the host | [02:49] |
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CoalPowerGorilla | coingenuity copumpkin Corey Cory cowloon | [02:49] |
CoalPowerGorilla | coingenuity copumpkin Corey Cory cowloon | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | !up cowloon | [02:49] |
-assbot- | You voiced cowloon for 30 minutes. | [02:50] |
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mircea_popescu | bitstein it's not just money, either. consider my earlier quoted piece about how "you can't police other people's oppression". | [02:50] |
bitstein | Pierre_Rochard has referred to Bitcoin as an example of Coase theorem. Bitcoin can be allocated however... it will fall out of the hands of the stupid. | [02:50] |
mircea_popescu | and it's really universal. i was out one night here, and a bum (there's tons of bums in buenos aires, they have matresses in the street and whatnot) started howling. like 3 am. | [02:50] |
FoOdies | mircea_popescu the day bitcoin is no longer paired against fiat is the day bitcoin has reached it's purpose | [02:51] |
mircea_popescu | a passerby was like "shut up!" all aggro. | [02:51] |
mircea_popescu | find the us guy that wil tell a bum what to do, how to speak and so on. | [02:51] |
FoOdies | until then it's just an unregulated trading asset | [02:51] |
FoOdies | imho | [02:51] |
mircea_popescu | "o, could never do that". well ? why not ? whoi's to tell the bums how to behave ? who's to tell children what to do, when and how ? | [02:51] |
BingoBoingo | Marketing opportunity >> http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/170-foot-ketchup-bottle-sale-illinois-24665481 | [02:51] |
assbot | 170-Foot Ketchup Bottle for Sale in Illinois - ABC News | [02:51] |
FoOdies | I like this place, it's all kinds of weird | [02:52] |
FoOdies | can I have perma voice ? | [02:52] |
mircea_popescu | nah, you should too shilly. | [02:52] |
FoOdies | I'll consider a shpaga when I meet you | [02:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 429 @ 0.00273 = 1.1712 BTC [-] {2} | [02:52] |
FoOdies | notice the usage of when | [02:52] |
FoOdies | the firm usage | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | permanence is illusory anyway. | [02:53] |
BingoBoingo | Pretty sure that catsup bottle can be dressed up as an MPEx dildo | [02:53] |
bitstein | Somewhat related, I'm working on an article about how merchants are just scammers trying to swindle you out of your bitcoins. | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo it being ill, they'll prolly shoot someone with it. | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | bitstein perhaps going a little too far. | [02:53] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Other side of the state. A few hundred miles from Chiraq | [02:54] |
bitstein | Yes, that's the hyperbolic summary. | [02:54] |
bitstein | I'll pass on a draft later on. I have school in the way right now. | [02:55] |
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BingoBoingo | !up FoOdies | [02:57] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;view 21114 | [02:57] |
gribble | #21114 Sun Jul 20 00:20:35 2014 BTCminers SELL 1.0 Spin Wheel – wheel Script for any crypto coin + Installing @ 0.1 BTC (Escrow Accepted) | [02:57] |
mircea_popescu | thickasthieves feel like running whatever that is ? | [02:57] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2014/07/17/brenda_ann_kenneally_documents_life_below_the_poverty_line_in_troy_york.html | [02:58] |
assbot | Brenda Ann Kenneally documents life below the poverty line in Troy, York in her documentary project, Upstate Girls. | [02:58] |
BingoBoingo | ^ lulzy photos | [02:58] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2014/06/Troy/lawrence_2007.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg <<< i bet this filename was created on a windows.win.windows.xp.windows system | [03:03] |
BingoBoingo | OMG spot the DOgecoiner | [03:04] |
BingoBoingo | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsJWVHlCAAIRvsj.jpg:large | [03:05] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2014/06/Troy/Robert%20Stocklas_2013.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg << check out the punctured oil heater with a jimmy rigged power connection. | [03:06] |
mircea_popescu | this guy could be a 2012 bitcoin miner. | [03:06] |
BingoBoingo | "I would encourage you to finish before the majority of your committee members retire. (seriously.)" << Roflmao, I know a between one and two hand full of countable fingers of these people. | [03:08] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.horseradishfestival.net/ << Event that happens in the shadow of the Catsup Bottle/Dildo water tower | [03:10] |
assbot | International Horseradish Festival, Collinsville, IL. First weekend in June | [03:10] |
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BingoBoingo | Actual contest that happened http://www.collinsvillerec.com/pdffiles/14_IHF_BloodyMaryContestApp.pdf | [03:12] |
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mircea_popescu | wait. that boy actually is... a girl http://www.upstategirls.org/images/Jodie/jodie_2500px-003.jpg ?! | [03:21] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, very merkley??? looking shit, except minus either the talent or the interest | [03:22] |
mircea_popescu | ( the real deal http://www.threequestionmarks.com/blog/blog.html ) | [03:22] |
assbot | merkley???: I May Not Be God, But at Least I'm Real. | [03:22] |
BingoBoingo | roflcopter | [03:26] |
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bitstein | Ethereum has raised nearly $800k in about 2 hours: https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 | [03:39] |
assbot | Bitcoin Address 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 | [03:39] |
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mircea_popescu | lol so people bought >1k btc worth of ethereum at 2k each btc , instead of buying 1k btc worth of ethereum at 5k each btc ? | [03:40] |
mircea_popescu | does this sound credible to you in any sense ? | [03:40] |
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bitstein | Well I'm amazed by any purchase of Ethereum, so... | [03:41] |
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mircea_popescu | why do all the supposed payments end in .9997 ? | [03:43] |
mircea_popescu | o wait, they're all sent off the same software which simply substracts the same mining fee from the txn ? | [03:43] |
mircea_popescu | funny how that'd be the case. | [03:44] |
BingoBoingo | Wait, there's a wallet thing that does that? | [03:44] |
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mike_c | isn't ethereum a wallet or something? | [03:44] |
BingoBoingo | mike_c: Well, so far it is a nothing | [03:45] |
mike_c | also, it's possible they didn't know about the better offer yet. | [03:45] |
BingoBoingo | Then it will pretend to be a something before becoming a nothing again | [03:45] |
mike_c | da fuck am i thinking of? mycelium, etherwhoizt. what the fuck is that node-less wallet thingy? | [03:46] |
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mike_c | jurov is a big fan. unless i dreamt all this. | [03:47] |
BingoBoingo | mike_c: Electrum? | [03:47] |
mike_c | yes | [03:47] |
mike_c | these names. | [03:47] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c right, because nobody with any btc reads the logs, or reddit, or twitter. | [03:47] |
BingoBoingo | Ah. Electrum wallet (split into online and offline components like armory) plus one's own electrum server actually doesn't seem like a bad wallet solution atm | [03:48] |
mike_c | well, are you proposing that there is no longer significant # of btc in the hands of idiots? | [03:48] |
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mike_c | i didn't think we were there yet. | [03:49] |
mike_c | BingoBoingo: yeah, it didn't seem completely retarded. i had attached some of that feeling to this ethereum thingy. didn't realize it was just a complete nothing. | [03:50] |
BingoBoingo | mike_c: Yeah, a big problem in this space is still sound/look a like names. | [03:50] |
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BingoBoingo | http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--kn6VXOVa--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/zo17x0u9io1fppluzmmk.jpg | [03:59] |
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mircea_popescu | mike_c in this case, the only significant amount of btc is in the hands of the idiots trying to fraudulently prop an ipo scam visible from the moon, in some sort of misplaced delusion of legal immunity. | [04:10] |
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benkay | mircea_popescu: d'you recall what gmaxwell's all butthurt about? | [04:15] |
BingoBoingo | Well, it was just last week the link dropped here of an aspiring HYIP scammer who lost a whole BTC to malware he though would let him cheat a pasted together gambling site. | [04:16] |
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BingoBoingo | benkay: Porn. gmaxwell hates pr0ns | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | getting publicly humiliated ? the usaul thing. | [04:16] |
benkay | just wondering what fine print he failed to read. | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo a whole btc. not a succession of 5.997 2.997 etc etc. | [04:16] |
benkay | having failed to read my fair share of fine print in the past. | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | benkay o, i don't imagine his recent derpage has any substance to it, merely him trying his best at crafting effectual calumny. | [04:17] |
mircea_popescu | otherwise, the dispute is preserved here : http://trilema.com/2013/the-froth-of-our-days/ | [04:17] |
assbot | The froth of our days pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [04:17] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Well, this whole ether huffing thing smells just like the mastercoin "sell coin now" and then "release anything eventually" | [04:17] |
mircea_popescu | obviously the fact that time has meanwhile proven my points doesn't in any sense help. | [04:18] |
BingoBoingo | ;;rate gmaxwell -1 Likely UnSavoryGarnish, Plant | [04:19] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user gmaxwell has been recorded. | [04:19] |
BingoBoingo | What was Hearn's nick? | [04:19] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway, this isn't in any sense a dispute pitting flaming social justice warriors and other braindamaged kids trying to make the world "liberal" a la copumpkin against cold hard reality. | [04:19] |
copumpkin | lol | [04:20] |
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mircea_popescu | this is a dispute where a consumate gofer (ie, gmaxwell) is trying to veer their naivity into some sort of political relevance for himself, gets called out and then stomped out. | [04:20] |
benkay | BingoBoingo: is this ether coin a btc fork or... | [04:20] |
mircea_popescu | much like the life of andreas derpopowhatever, except two years earlier | [04:20] |
BingoBoingo | benkay: Pre-sold instead of pre-mined | [04:20] |
benkay | BingoBoingo: still no software then i gather | [04:20] |
mircea_popescu | which shouldn't be surprising : anyone can be a very ambitious failed painter or w/e mediocrity. | [04:20] |
BingoBoingo | benkay: Not that they've released. Apparently the presale ether goes in their genesis block | [04:21] |
bitstein | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6llaZefJDc | [04:22] |
assbot | The Producers -- Hitler...there was a painter - YouTube | [04:22] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Ah, I though I'd give him the "UnsavoryGarnish, Vegetable" ninjashogun and gmaxwell earned | [04:23] |
BingoBoingo | But if he didn't submit himself to civilization | [04:23] |
BingoBoingo | ... | [04:23] |
BingoBoingo | I guess that people will have to read other places that he is suspected of being the lead USG plant | [04:24] |
mircea_popescu | not the sort of thing that really needs to be read by too many people anyway. | [04:24] |
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mircea_popescu | benkay well so far it's really an urbit fork. | [04:25] |
mircea_popescu | it's going to do great things in novel ways just as soon as someone does it. | [04:25] |
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mircea_popescu | copumpkin lol, lol, but how about you go count female heads in otc and here ? just for lulz. | [04:26] |
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copumpkin | busy eating some hand grasp bread I just made | [04:26] |
mircea_popescu | i never had that thing. what the hell is it | [04:27] |
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nubbins` | what's hand grasp bread | [04:28] |
benkay | at least urbit had code in the wild, has ether achieved that yet? | [04:28] |
copumpkin | fluffy chinese bread: http://www.beifangmeishi.com/file/upload/201306/25/16-43-04-45-36.jpg | [04:28] |
copumpkin | dlicious | [04:28] |
copumpkin | om nom nom | [04:28] |
nubbins` | oh yum | [04:28] |
nubbins` | is that wheat-based? | [04:28] |
benkay | nubbins`: hit the lawyer turn off the gym, facebook up? | [04:28] |
mircea_popescu | look slike an exploded strudel. | [04:29] |
copumpkin | mine isnt as beautiful as that one | [04:29] |
mircea_popescu | benkay well it's a spoonlet then , not quite a fork | [04:29] |
copumpkin | yeah wheat | [04:29] |
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nubbins` | benkay i know all the verbs you just used | [04:29] |
nubbins` | i'm trying to see if i can make a business case for buying one of these cd duplication machines | [04:31] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` lawyer is a noun. get it ? A NOUN. you don't want it to sue you., | [04:31] |
benkay | the spoon is a lie | [04:31] |
nubbins` | with the little robot arms | [04:31] |
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BingoBoingo | Fuck it, Imma walk over to the county fair and grab some chikin livers to go with this vodka | [04:31] |
mircea_popescu | how much do they cost ? | [04:31] |
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BingoBoingo | (reconstituted vodka) | [04:31] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo grab a chick'n while at it. | [04:31] |
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copumpkin | nubbins`: wtf is a cd | [04:32] |
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nubbins` | i know right | [04:32] |
nubbins` | that's in the "cons" list | [04:32] |
mircea_popescu | !up Ginux | [04:32] |
mircea_popescu | !up gilgameshugga | [04:32] |
nubbins` | but they're fuckin cheap. like under 3btc | [04:32] |
mircea_popescu | ok, how many cds did you burn last year ? | [04:32] |
copumpkin | hell, I can't even remember the last time I handled physical media | [04:33] |
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dub | http://www.chinesefoodsblog.com/node/125 | [04:33] |
copumpkin | that's cause nobody else wants them either | [04:33] |
assbot | Chopped green onion hand grasp bread | Chinesefood | [04:33] |
nubbins` | reason i'm wondering is we got a job producing cd jackets etc for a band, and we're printing on the discs | [04:33] |
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copumpkin | dub: yup | [04:33] |
dub | complete wiht engrish++ | [04:33] |
nubbins` | started humming about actually duplicating them too | [04:33] |
dub | this is my new favorite blog | [04:33] |
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copumpkin | delicious | [04:33] |
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copumpkin | so much good chinese food never leaves china | [04:33] |
copumpkin | it's a pity people only eat general tsao and such | [04:33] |
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dub | duck you | [04:34] |
dub | um | [04:34] |
dub | fuck you | [04:34] |
copumpkin | :( | [04:34] |
-assbot- | You voiced Ginux for 30 minutes. | [04:34] |
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-assbot- | You voiced gilgameshugga for 30 minutes. | [04:34] |
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midnightmagic | you just have to know a chinese person. I got some great stuff smuggled out. :-D | [04:34] |
dub | i want chinee food now | [04:34] |
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copumpkin | chinese lamb sticks are the best | [04:35] |
copumpkin | ma po doufu | [04:35] |
copumpkin | mm | [04:35] |
copumpkin | in fact, anything with szechuan peppercorns | [04:35] |
dub | theres a place up the road that does that bread and og dumplings | [04:35] |
mircea_popescu | i never got into chinese. sushi i like, indian lamb i like, but chinese... hm. what's it even for. | [04:35] |
copumpkin | amazing ingredient | [04:35] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [04:35] |
midnightmagic | tingly numby-ness. | [04:35] |
copumpkin | >_> | [04:35] |
dub | but im too hungover to drive | [04:36] |
copumpkin | mmm | [04:36] |
midnightmagic | nom nom nom | [04:36] |
copumpkin | yup | [04:36] |
dub | yeah numbing heat | [04:36] |
dub | good shit | [04:36] |
mircea_popescu | ironically, the sechuan pepper i actually like | [04:36] |
mircea_popescu | usually put it on... pfeffersteak | [04:36] |
copumpkin | that's cause it's an amazing ingredient | [04:37] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [04:37] |
copumpkin | <_< | [04:37] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, proly the best pepper. | [04:37] |
mircea_popescu | either that or green | [04:37] |
midnightmagic | there are some weird salts that are hand-mined and prepared in china too. They highlight one in a show called "Taste of China". | [04:37] |
dub | goddamit | [04:37] |
copumpkin | yup | [04:37] |
midnightmagic | *amazing* weird flavours. | [04:37] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [04:37] |
midnightmagic | lol | [04:37] |
copumpkin | lol | [04:37] |
dub | im gonna have to man up and put some pants on | [04:38] |
copumpkin | AMAZING COMPANY! | [04:38] |
copumpkin | hmm | [04:38] |
mircea_popescu | midnightmagic it's not "salt scraped off forced labouring prisoners sweat" or something is it | [04:38] |
copumpkin | aMazing pepper | [04:38] |
dub | mircea_popescu: just the balls | [04:38] |
mircea_popescu | chinese men have balls ?! | [04:38] |
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midnightmagic | mircea_popescu: lol no, but its extraction is hugely labour-intensive.. same as lots of things in our world that have disappeared because nobody's willing or able to go to the effort anymore | [04:38] |
dub | hey now, no need for racis | [04:39] |
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mircea_popescu | dub is racis the enemy of ratrans ? | [04:39] |
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mircea_popescu | midnightmagic but i mean... salt is salt, right ? it forms deposits, acertain way. why labour intensive ? | [04:39] |
midnightmagic | mircea_popescu: pure salt is. The impurities give it the weird extra flavours. I mean some I'm not cool with. There's this weird black salt that has a lot of sulphur in it. | [04:40] |
mircea_popescu | sulphur is supposedly good for you, somehow. | [04:41] |
mircea_popescu | they even market all these miracle-curing sulphurous mineral waters. | [04:41] |
BingoBoingo | I'm back, mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo grab a chick'n while at it. << How does that saying go... "Don't shit where you eat" | [04:41] |
dub | Put to wok,add a spoon oil,cook until two side become yellow.OK! | [04:42] |
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mircea_popescu | dub is that wok or work ? | [04:42] |
dub | if yan can cook then so can you | [04:42] |
midnightmagic | my mistake the show is called "A Bite Of China" but damned if I can find the episode now :) | [04:43] |
mircea_popescu | honestly, i'd be kinda loath to take bites out of china. | [04:43] |
kakobrekla | [04:43] | |
mircea_popescu | kinda big. | [04:43] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla there's one in romania and i think somewhere in serbia ? or maybe it was albania | [04:43] |
midnightmagic | There's a spot near me where the hotsprngs have naturally-occurring lithium in them. | [04:44] |
midnightmagic | it's horrible literally being unable to move faster than a walk after sitting in those waters too long | [04:44] |
mircea_popescu | wow | [04:44] |
dub | is that good for you? | [04:45] |
midnightmagic | i didn't know until afterwards that the water was contaminated. they sell it as a health spa. | [04:45] |
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mircea_popescu | "experience being old for a day!" | [04:45] |
midnightmagic | "what the fuck is wrong with me" *sluggish zombie-movement* | [04:45] |
kakobrekla | Mataruška Banja? Havent been but need to check it out sometime. | [04:45] |
midnightmagic | yah | [04:45] |
dub | they give lithium in cases of extreme psychosis | [04:45] |
BingoBoingo | dub: Not just then, low dose lithium can work well for a person when their brain is just running a little hot. | [04:46] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla ya sound about right | [04:46] |
BingoBoingo | dub> they give lithium in cases of extreme psychosis << Also they don't really give lithium much for psychosis anymore which is a shame considering how well it works... | [04:48] |
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mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo stop opposing research and job creating funding in research and SCIENCE and global warming. | [04:50] |
mircea_popescu | we're trying to build a great future here and you gotta throw simple element wrenches into the windows | [04:50] |
BingoBoingo | [04:52] | |
mircea_popescu | psychoactive lithium is not complex enough. progress is complexity, to oppose complexification is to be antisocial and terrorist. | [04:52] |
* | BingoBoingo finds it interesting that in a few years on patent Atypical Antipsychotics will dry up, and the next pivot isn't apparent on the horizon yet. | [04:53] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo seeing how well the current stuff works, they can just patent borax glass and give that to people. | [04:53] |
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BingoBoingo | Come on, there's nothing more complex than the cascade of mystery meat that happens when lithium displaces sodium in the gap and raises action potential | [04:54] |
mircea_popescu | but that's complexity in the wrong place. | [04:54] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Well, The Last Psychiatrist had all of those wonderfully illustrative Seroquel articles about complexity in the right places, but... Tis off pattent nao | [04:55] |
BingoBoingo | TLP's rum fountain analogy in those articles is probably the best popular science writing this century so far. | [04:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00081519 = 18.4233 BTC [+] {3} | [04:58] |
nubbins` | nice middle-of-the-line cd duplicator is maybe $1500 | [04:58] |
nubbins` | realistically could charge about 50 cents for the duplication of one cd | [04:58] |
nubbins` | which means 3k cds duplicated before i can stop worrying about breaking the thing | [04:58] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` you never answered as to how many you made | [04:59] |
nubbins` | for customers? zero | [04:59] |
BingoBoingo | nubbins`: Look used on Ebay already. | [04:59] |
nubbins` | just happened to be making some cd cases for a band and they wanted discs printed, idly wondering if we'd want to duplicate em too | [05:00] |
nubbins` | probably not | [05:00] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` ok, how many do you figure you'll make and on what basis do you so figure ? | [05:00] |
kakobrekla | tell em if he orders 3k. | [05:00] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla's idea goes a long way towards that. "3k, cause they're prepaid" | [05:00] |
nubbins` | it's hard to say because a lot of bands are doing vinyl or download cards these days instead of cds. ballpark guess, might get 1000 cds duped over the next year | [05:01] |
mike_c | and exponential decrease every year after | [05:01] |
mike_c | it's like a miner! | [05:01] |
nubbins` | well, there's that too | [05:01] |
kakobrekla | at this point - might be more $ to be in the floppy biz. | [05:02] |
nubbins` | you can also get dupe towers, with one master drive and say 5 burners | [05:02] |
nubbins` | they're only around $700 | [05:02] |
mircea_popescu | horrible business purchase, moving on. | [05:02] |
nubbins` | not quite as hands-off tho | [05:02] |
nubbins` | lel, agreed | [05:02] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` , hey, it's what you originally asked. | [05:02] |
nubbins` | this is a silkscreen printing studio, not a cd dupe centre | [05:02] |
nubbins` | just looking for a fresh perspective, glad to see we're all in agreement 8) | [05:03] |
BingoBoingo | nubbins`: How many Cd's do they need duped? | [05:03] |
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nubbins` | this particular job, only 200 | [05:03] |
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nubbins` | i'd say at this point, more stuff is being released on cassette here than cd | [05:04] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` this is like, groupthink. no fresh perspectives allowed here. | [05:04] |
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nubbins` | heh | [05:04] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` but srsly, if you can get a vynil press you can sell to all the hippies | [05:04] |
nubbins` | mp, that's its own craft | [05:05] |
kakobrekla | that shit costs serial monies. | [05:05] |
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nubbins` | almost every vinyl pressing house in canada outsources to this one factory in czech | [05:05] |
mike_c | really? shipping is worth it? | [05:05] |
* | nubbins` nods | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c easy to fuck up | [05:05] |
nubbins` | they do direct-to-metal digital masters with this crazy machine | [05:05] |
nubbins` | supposed to be a one-of-a-kind setup | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | it probably is. | [05:06] |
nubbins` | name an a-list band, their vinyl is pressed there | [05:06] |
mike_c | interesting. | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | the last existing top hat factory was destroyed in a family dispute coupla decades ago | [05:06] |
nubbins` | jeez | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | most of the good old shit is one of a kind setups | [05:06] |
BingoBoingo | Nubbins 2k cd minimum order I could set up cd production with artisinal hand labeling ~ 8.7 BTC and handle the remaining on a print on demand basis. 6 week turn around for the first batch. | [05:06] |
nubbins` | BingoBoingo i don't think many bands here would be into a 2k minimum ;( | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo there exist no indie bands which can afford a 10 btc expenditure on life saving surgery | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | let alone cds | [05:07] |
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nubbins` | mircea_popescu you forget, this is canada | [05:07] |
nubbins` | sweet sweet grant money | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` anyway, the only way to do this is, make the whole studio, force-sign the bands, work them like slaves. | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | not VERY profitable, but a lot of fun. | [05:08] |
nubbins` | heh | [05:08] |
nubbins` | maybe i'll just stick to printing | [05:08] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Well I figured I'd throw a quote out there just in case some "band" has parents with more coin than sense | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo those kids go for mbas, new cars and bumps off teenage asscracks. | [05:08] |
nubbins` | one of our regular customers was awarded a $10k grant last year to record an album | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | not shitty "music" | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` wow socialist utopia. was the album actually made ? | [05:09] |
nubbins` | mircea_popescu: yeah, i've got a copy somewhere | [05:09] |
mircea_popescu | or did it work pretty much like kickstarter | [05:09] |
nubbins` | it was their third album, first one paid for by someone else | [05:09] |
BingoBoingo | nubbins`: The 2k minimum is to avoid the situation where they buy exactly the number of cd's they have friends to pester and need pod cd's twice a month for a decade. | [05:09] |
nubbins` | that's the thing about grants, you get blacklisted if you don't produce (a) your work and (b) your receipts | [05:10] |
nubbins` | and nobody wants to get blacklisted, 'cause ain't nobody but the government giving out free money | [05:10] |
mike_c | "free" | [05:10] |
nubbins` | hey, free enough | [05:11] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: I've had classmates with "farm money" talk their parents into covering their Film School, Mary Jane prescription, and subsequent X-mas DUI's. Weirder things happen in fiat land. | [05:11] |
mike_c | not so free for the people they took it from | [05:11] |
nubbins` | mike_c, our benevolent overlords see it fit that we should be entertained with fresh music | [05:11] |
nubbins` | and so we gladly oblige, purse in hand | [05:11] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c stop opposing progress and an end to oppression. | [05:11] |
mike_c | hey, it's better than how our gov't spends its money.. | [05:12] |
nubbins` | i mean, really, it's not the band that gets the $10k | [05:12] |
mircea_popescu | im not sure if shitty contemporary bands should be given 10k in grants to derp quietly in a corner at their craft or just be medicated worth 10k for possesion. | [05:12] |
mircea_popescu | so far neither strat seems to work any | [05:12] |
mircea_popescu | canada hasn't had a good musician since cohen visited and the us... | [05:13] |
nubbins` | it's everyone they hire to do shit for them that they used to have to do themselves | [05:13] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 419 @ 0.0014122 = 0.5917 BTC [-] {6} | [05:13] |
nubbins` | wat | [05:13] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` too lazy to list the us problemz. | [05:13] |
mike_c | wait, was that a meta-insult? | [05:14] |
justusranvier | mircea_popescu: What happens if by next March 15th, the Ethereum network isn't sufficiently functional for you to be able to deliver Ethers to the people who take you up on your offer? | [05:14] |
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mike_c | "i'm too drunk to list irish problems" | [05:14] |
mircea_popescu | justusranvier amusingly, in that case the contract'd be void. | [05:15] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway, it'd be an explicit clause limiting such cases, obv. | [05:15] |
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mircea_popescu | in any case, one generally buys a future if they expect the thing to work well, not to fail. | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | if you buy a future and the thing fails there's many ways to put it, but they all boil down to "you're screwed". | [05:20] |
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justusranvier | They might have value as collector's items 30 years from now. | [05:21] |
* | dub haz chinese food | [05:21] |
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mircea_popescu | all sorts of mights, obviously. | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | the aliens might land five minutes later and declare that anyone can have super hot alien blowjobs for a eth each | [05:23] |
BingoBoingo | !b 7 | [05:23] |
assbot | Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1D585YD.txt ) | [05:23] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: But then the aliens burn in hell for coming from the wrong earth | [05:24] |
justusranvier | "Vintage Ether units. Mint condition - never used." | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | i happen to be party to the first and oldest actually executed short, incidentally. you ever saw it ? | [05:25] |
BingoBoingo | I wonder if ethereum ethers will suffer from the problem classical ether does where explosive peroxide crystals form. | [05:25] |
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BingoBoingo | Also, fuck tractor pulls | [05:39] |
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mircea_popescu | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/3471532818_a05495e39d_o.jpg decent tits on those legs. | [05:39] |
mthreat | anti-gravity | [05:40] |
mircea_popescu | they do wonderful things with plastics now | [05:41] |
mthreat | did someone already post this here? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bg93d/heres_why_i_love_bitcoin_very_nsfw_version/ | [05:42] |
assbot | Here's Why I Love Bitcoin! [Very NSFW Version] ;) : Bitcoin | [05:42] |
mthreat | appears to be from sexy saffron | [05:42] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00274866 = 1.9241 BTC [+] | [05:42] |
mircea_popescu | five holes, asciilifeform | [05:43] |
mircea_popescu | or was it six. | [05:43] |
asciilifeform | damn what'd i miss. | [05:43] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 150 @ 0.00697642 = 1.0465 BTC [+] {5} | [05:47] |
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decimation | asciilifeform were you tired of breathing laser-combustion byproducts? | [05:50] |
asciilifeform | decimation: aye | [05:50] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: lithium pharma << as i recall, the therapeutic envelope is so narrow as to be practically absent - e.g. slow poison | [05:52] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Therapeutic envelope is indeed very narrow. 0.4 to 1.2, toxic depending on the patient starts at 0.8 to 1.4 | [05:53] |
decimation | asciilifeform if you aren't making stencils with laser cutter, what are you making? custom circuit-board etchings? | [05:54] |
BingoBoingo | But, on the plus side interactions with other drugs are minimal | [05:54] |
asciilifeform | decimation: mechanicals for paste laydown apparatus. | [05:54] |
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decimation | neato, robots building robots | [05:54] |
decimation | I wouldn't mind building something like this one day: http://www.vtwilson.net/telescope.html (complete with russian military satellite observatory) | [05:56] |
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BingoBoingo | Seriously though, calling these things competing in the tractor pull "tractors" is an insult to the idea of useful machinery. | [05:58] |
asciilifeform | ;;buy 1 "Auger valve for high-viscosity fluid dispenser, any manufacturer." at 1 BTC | [05:59] |
gribble | Order id 21143 created. | [05:59] |
decimation | lithium & warfarin are famous for narrow theraputic index | [05:59] |
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BingoBoingo | decimation: Warfarin is a bit different. Warfarin has an antidote. | [06:00] |
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mircea_popescu | btw, since i've been reading my old romanian bitcoin articles, landed on some gems. anyone remembers vladimir's asic ? | [06:03] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-a-public-company-will-build-a-huge-bitcoin-mining-operation-asic.49333/page-15 | [06:03] |
assbot | [ANN] A public company will build a huge Bitcoin Mining Operation (ASIC). | Page 15 | Bitcointa.lk | [06:03] |
decimation | asciilifeform don't you need to refigerate solder paste? | [06:04] |
decimation | refridgerate | [06:04] |
asciilifeform | decimation: yes. or, alternatively, use it up quickly. | [06:04] |
asciilifeform | it doesn't keep. | [06:04] |
decimation | I guess if you do a batch at a time you use it up | [06:04] |
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asciilifeform | even refrigerated, the balls settle. | [06:05] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: OMG comments http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2bfwaw/mircea_popescu_offers_a_short_of_etherium_coins/ | [06:05] |
assbot | Mircea Popescu offers a short of Etherium coins up to 1 KiloBTC's worth at 5000 per BTC deliverable in 2015 : CryptoCurrency | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | "If this ASIC mambo jumbo goes forward then I think BTC is as "good" as PayPal or the Bank of England." (forum communitard, 2012). | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo i saw some on tat's link too | [06:06] |
decimation | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-sale-Auto-Glue-Dispenser-Solder-Paste-Liquid-Controller-Dropper-YDL-983A-Dispensing-system/757892187.html | [06:06] |
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assbot | 220V Auto Glue Dispenser Solder Paste Liquid Controller Dropper YDL 983A Dispensing system-in Other Machinery from Industry & Business on Aliexpress.com | [06:06] |
decimation | why not air dispenser? | [06:07] |
asciilifeform | decimation: i own almost exactly that one | [06:07] |
asciilifeform | they're crap, fundamentally | [06:07] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Yeah | [06:07] |
decimation | too much variance in the dispensed amount? | [06:08] |
asciilifeform | decimation: two reasons: air is a terrible working fluid (compressible!) making for very poor repeatability; | [06:08] |
asciilifeform | decimation: likewise, major problem with 'drool' (actual term of art!) | [06:08] |
decimation | yeah, plus when it runs out it will spatter I suspect | [06:08] |
asciilifeform | decimation: that is, apparatus continues to shit after pressure is relieved | [06:08] |
decimation | yeah you almost want to push it out with water or something, except that would dilute the flux | [06:09] |
asciilifeform | air-fart syringe apparatus works for what it was built for - chinese slave gurlz dispensing glue. | [06:09] |
decimation | generally in that application you don't care about drool or spillage | [06:10] |
asciilifeform | state of the art, it turns out, is 'auger valve' - think: small archimedes screw. | [06:10] |
decimation | x turns of screw gives repeatable amount? | [06:10] |
asciilifeform | turned with a stepper motor. | [06:10] |
asciilifeform | correct. | [06:10] |
decimation | plus no drool because it acts as a valve | [06:11] |
decimation | interesting. | [06:11] |
asciilifeform | aye. | [06:11] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.theonion.com/articles/mans-anxiety-not-about-to-let-depression-muscle-in,36504/ | [06:12] |
assbot | Mans Anxiety Not About To Let Depression Muscle In On Turf | The Onion - America's Finest News Source | [06:12] |
decimation | you would need a tiny auger screw though? | [06:12] |
asciilifeform | yes. and the cavity it turns in can have no more than a very small gap between the auger and walls. | [06:13] |
decimation | http://www.evilmadscientist.com/2013/solder-paste/ | [06:13] |
assbot | Basics: Up Close and Personal with Solder Paste | Evil Mad Scientist Laboratories | [06:13] |
asciilifeform | these normally cost their weight in diamonds new. | [06:13] |
decimation | "This is ?type 3? solder, which allows solder balls of up to 45 ?m in size, where 99% of those particles are below 38 ?m. " | [06:13] |
decimation | that's a pretty small gap to close off | [06:13] |
decimation | 45 micrometer ball size | [06:14] |
BingoBoingo | County fair week has to be the worst week, why does a sled need 8 gallons of engine displacement to pull another sled full of weights? | [06:15] |
asciilifeform | decimation: i use only Sn/Bi alloy, 138C. as described on mircea_popescu's site. | [06:16] |
asciilifeform | 25-45 micron ball variance. | [06:16] |
asciilifeform | it is reasonably inexpensive and reflows beautifully on an electric hob. | [06:18] |
kakobrekla | its basically a tiny meat grinder. | [06:19] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla has it. | [06:19] |
* | asciilifeform now wonders if said paste conducts well enough to be propelled in 'MHD' pump. | [06:20] |
dub | my wood pellet burner ingests its food with an auger | [06:21] |
asciilifeform | dub: cutting edge ancient greek tech. | [06:22] |
asciilifeform | http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Fluids/Archimedes_Screw/Archimedes_Screw.html | [06:23] |
assbot | Archimede's Screw | [06:23] |
asciilifeform | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes'_screw#mediaviewer/File:Archimedes-screw_one-screw-threads_with-ball_3D-view_animated_small.gif | [06:23] |
assbot | Archimedes' screw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | [06:23] |
dub | its a bit buggy with the pellets, thinks its jammed and refuses to start around half the time | [06:23] |
asciilifeform | (for victims of american school) | [06:23] |
dub | smart way to isolate fuel store from the hot bit | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | dub how large are the pellets ? | [06:25] |
dub | 5 by 10mm cylinders | [06:26] |
mircea_popescu | prolly needs a tune-upo, the screw | [06:28] |
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dub | yeah, dust caked around the sensor oslt | [06:29] |
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dub | theres an appendage on the front of it that runs through middle of the screw which you pull out and wiggle to get it going again | [06:30] |
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dub | it would be a problem if I used the automation bits but its not annoying enough to start pulling it apart | [06:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22327 @ 0.00081115 = 18.1105 BTC [-] {4} | [06:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00080893 = 1.0516 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
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BingoBoingo | !up shesek | [06:42] |
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shesek | hey BingoBoingo | [06:42] |
BingoBoingo | hello shesek | [06:42] |
shesek | I actually have no idea what this channel is for - I saw it mentioned on Reddit and joined in | [06:42] |
shesek | the website doesn't really say much, either | [06:43] |
BingoBoingo | shesek: Well, this channel is kind of like the pipefitter's lounge, but for serious bitcoiners instead of pipefitters. | [06:44] |
BingoBoingo | Not necessarily serious in general mind you. Just serious in Bitcoin. | [06:45] |
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Pierre_Rochard | shesek: a good introduction is here http://theumlaut.com/2014/06/10/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains/ | [06:47] |
assbot | Bitcoin Is Great, But It Won’t Fix Our Monkey Brains | The mlaut | [06:47] |
BingoBoingo | Azelphur: It looks like you've worked quite a bit on Electrum. Familiar at all with documentation for the server component? | [06:47] |
* | asciilifeform discovered an interesting, (though probably not new) scam. | [06:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00080277 = 26.0097 BTC [-] {4} | [06:57] |
Rassah | I think "our monkey brains" are largely influenced by societal norms, and bitcoin will "hack" some of those norms just as other technologies and science discoveries have... | [06:58] |
asciilifeform | one can buy 'sim cards' intended for industrial applications - alarms, sensors, etc. where you feed it once a quarter, and the balance is spent when making/receiving calls or sms | [06:58] |
asciilifeform | i have one such. and now i know how the vendor scams | [06:59] |
asciilifeform | the device receives sms spam. | [06:59] |
asciilifeform | despite the number never seeing the light of day anywhere | [06:59] |
asciilifeform | could be 'wardialer,' of course. | [06:59] |
asciilifeform | or - their actual business model. | [06:59] |
BingoBoingo | Rassah: Actual brain hacking is much harder than it first sppears | [07:00] |
asciilifeform | interesting how business model where strangers can reach in and take money from your pocket can carry on. | [07:04] |
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asciilifeform | (how? captive audience. who wants to pay a fat monthly fee for a remote sensor? so you're stuck with these.) | [07:05] |
BingoBoingo | At least with the prepaid model if the carrier pisses you of, the shredder is a viable solution to device difficulties | [07:06] |
nubbins` | so in the wedding planning world, a "save the date" card is a thing | [07:06] |
dub | was wondering wtf you are on about until I noticed you said you pay to recieve traffic (wtf?) | [07:06] |
kakobrekla | you pay for incoming sms ? | [07:06] |
nubbins` | it's like an invitation, but subtly different | [07:06] |
dub | never seen that one | [07:06] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: but where do you flee? they're all identical. | [07:06] |
nubbins` | it's sort of like a pre-announcement | [07:06] |
nubbins` | to use a btc analogy | [07:06] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Not for the privacy part, for the billing tyranny | [07:06] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: in usa, afaik all prepaid 'sim' vendors charge for both directions | [07:07] |
dub | thats fucked | [07:07] |
kakobrekla | retarded is what it is. | [07:07] |
BingoBoingo | They do indeed charge both ways, but it is still at least half the price of actual service. | [07:07] |
BingoBoingo | Often cheaper than [Insert President] Phone plans | [07:08] |
dub | it'd be cheaper for me to buy a burner with sim included than just sim | [07:08] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: less than 1/10 the price of the cheapest 'actual' service. but, given that spammers exist, the cost is non-deterministic | [07:08] |
asciilifeform | which is annoying in the extreme. | [07:08] |
dub | still only $20-30 with some credit included | [07:08] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I'm starting to get curious. Do you really get that many SMS spammers? | [07:10] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: enough to be annoyed | [07:10] |
kakobrekla | ascii your service provder is selling out to spammers ? tried switching to another ? | [07:10] |
asciilifeform | my new hypothesis is that all cellular carriers that market to 'almost never uses account' folks make their dough on spam. | [07:10] |
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asciilifeform | kakobrekla: tried a number of carriers for this application. noticed this pattern. | [07:11] |
dub | now that I think about it, I once bought an LTE modem with sim and $50 credit for $50 | [07:11] |
BingoBoingo | Last SMS spam I got was 3 phone numbers ago | [07:11] |
asciilifeform | dub: what's it cost per year? | [07:11] |
dub | nothing, no contract | [07:11] |
asciilifeform | dub: no, per year of actually being reachable | [07:12] |
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dub | uh its 3Gb for $50 | [07:13] |
asciilifeform | dub: we're talking about an unattended telemetry gizmo | [07:13] |
dub | right, it wouldnt cost | [07:14] |
asciilifeform | dub: vendor? | [07:14] |
dub | dubistani specific one | [07:14] |
asciilifeform | dub: every carrier i know of save the ones described above deduct $positive_integer per $time_period | [07:15] |
dub | theres a sim in mrs dubs ipad that hasnt had credit on it since.. whenever ipad2 dropped 3+ years? still registers on the network fine | [07:16] |
asciilifeform | dub: is this a formal arrangement, or a fortuitous accident? (e.g. 'comcast' once gave me ~2 years of service gratis. by virtue of sheer ineptness.) | [07:17] |
dub | its standard product | [07:17] |
asciilifeform | device-locked? | [07:18] |
dub | no, its a burner sim | [07:18] |
kakobrekla | from the ghetto streets. | [07:18] |
asciilifeform | if anyone knows of equivalent in usa, speak up. | [07:18] |
kakobrekla | isnt dub in usa? | [07:18] |
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dub | lolno | [07:19] |
kakobrekla | a ok | [07:19] |
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dub | im banned from usa in fact :) | [07:19] |
dub | not that I would want to go back | [07:19] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: If you want pure cell phone and SMS service Carlos Slim's Tracphone is the cheapest option | [07:19] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: they sell non-devicelocked sim ? | [07:20] |
BingoBoingo | Next cheapest and my current option is AT&T go phone | [07:20] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Their sims are very device locked | [07:20] |
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kuzetsa | huh | [07:20] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: and both carriers you mentioned charge $posint / mo. | [07:20] |
kakobrekla | dub yurop? | [07:20] |
kuzetsa | I guess assbot shares the same database as gribble, neat | [07:20] |
asciilifeform | we're talking about a gadget that powers up and sends a single 'sms' every blue moon. | [07:21] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: But device cost is low and every similar device must be treated as a turd anyways | [07:21] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: For asciilifeform> we're talking about a gadget that powers up and sends a single 'sms' every blue moon. << You can pay $ int every year. | [07:21] |
BingoBoingo | Less than ideal, but... | [07:21] |
dub | kakobrekla: neg | [07:22] |
BingoBoingo | For the cost of keeping a phone alive on the network I dunno of anything cheaper than Tracfone in the US | [07:22] |
dub | satphones have prepay options iirc | [07:24] |
dub | cost probably negates benefit, and you'd need sky | [07:26] |
cazalla | re: salt, what is it with chinks and magic salt, had missus bff coming around with himalayan salt trying to scam me under the guise of it being great for baby | [07:26] |
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dub | idk, I recall a theory that abnormally high iodine levels in the japanese contributes to their well above average longevity | [07:28] |
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dub | (most western table salt has iodine removed) | [07:29] |
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cazalla | they add it to salt, bread etc etc here | [07:30] |
cazalla | actually, bread is folic acid, yet these women don't have babies | [07:30] |
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dub | along with all manner of soy poisons and cow extracts | [07:31] |
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dub | ;;google cows in the bread | [07:32] |
gribble | Grain Overload/ Acidosis - LEA-White Farms Registered Highland ...: |
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BingoBoingo | cazalla: Every living thing of note uses folate | [07:35] |
BingoBoingo | About as close as Bio gets to having a level 0 standard | [07:35] |
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cazalla | i won't pretend to know much about it other than what i said, law states they must add it to bread here, marketed to help the fetus yet women aren't falling pregnant, sounds more like a marketing pitch - here's a donut with folate, any excuse to buy it | [07:37] |
dub | like fluoride, its all about reptillian seeding | [07:38] |
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nubbins` | <+dub> (most western table salt has iodine removed) | [07:39] |
nubbins` | wat | [07:39] |
nubbins` | you can buy non-iodized salt? | [07:39] |
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dub | funnily some time in teh 90's as I recall they started not taking it out and advertising as iodized | [07:40] |
trasyhhh151 | command for change nick is /msg NickServ nick name? | [07:40] |
trasyhhh151 | struggling here | [07:41] |
dub | no /nick newnick | [07:41] |
nubbins` | incidentally, if anyone's interested, this is what a "save the date" looks like: http://imgur.com/KxD5W0m | [07:42] |
assbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [07:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.000802 = 5.282 BTC [-] | [07:42] |
dub | I have a similarly gatsby themed one on my fridge | [07:44] |
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nubbins` | deco is the new deco | [07:45] |
nubbins` | is yours a real invite or a pre-invite? | [07:46] |
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dub | this is an invite but i've had pre-invites before | [07:47] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.kingdomofloathing.com/desc_item.php?whichitem=888987269 | [07:47] |
nubbins` | strange thing, hey | [07:47] |
dub | not uncommon here but I don't really get it | [07:49] |
dub | if you know when, why not skip straight to the invite proper | [07:49] |
nubbins` | I KNOW RIGHT | [07:50] |
nubbins` | these people | [07:50] |
nubbins` | i struggle to understand living a life so bereft of meaning that blowing your wad on a $50k one-off party is the culmination of your aspirations | [07:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5089 @ 0.00080051 = 4.0738 BTC [-] | [07:51] |
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nubbins` | i mean, y'know, wedding invitations for sale | [07:52] |
nubbins` | but | [07:52] |
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nubbins` | srsly | [07:52] |
dub | been to a couple of weddings involving several thousand dollars worth of international travel and accom for the guests, one of those had a save-the-date (STD?) | [07:52] |
nubbins` | heh | [07:52] |
dub | since such things are frequently cheapest booked earliest | [07:52] |
asciilifeform | life so bereft of meaning that blowing your wad on a $50k one-off party is the culmination << next: seppuku parties. save the date! | [07:53] |
nubbins` | oddly enough, this job came to us via a trendy downtown ad agency | [07:53] |
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nubbins` | asciilifeform please join steve and kristy as they ritually disembowel themselves! transportation to and from event provided | [07:53] |
asciilifeform | nubbins`: does kristy get an 'apple corer' ? | [07:54] |
dub | asciilifeform: expense of travel may be offset by reduced attendees, one couple claimed to have saved considerably | [07:54] |
nubbins` | it was the only thing on the gift registry that i felt comfortable buying | [07:54] |
dub | he is one of 14 kids | [07:54] |
dub | sorry, his mother is | [07:55] |
dub | upshot, 90% of his family couldnt make it | [07:55] |
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asciilifeform | only thing on the gift registry that i felt comfortable buying << lol, i suggested it as the actual instrument of sepukku | [08:00] |
benkay | [08:04] | |
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benkay | nubbins`: is there an auto insurance monopoly in your corner of the great untamed communist north? | [08:04] |
TheNewDeal | tell us more benkay | [08:04] |
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benkay | icbc | [08:05] |
benkay | it's a monopoly | [08:05] |
benkay | service sucks | [08:05] |
benkay | what else do you want? | [08:05] |
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TheNewDeal | how did they become a monopoly | [08:05] |
nubbins` | benkay, nope | [08:05] |
TheNewDeal | it's just like the game - no one cares about the ending, it's how you get there | [08:05] |
benkay | pediwiki: "By law, any vehicle registered and driven or parked on public streets in British Columbia must purchase ICBC's basic insurance package from an independent broker. " | [08:06] |
BingoBoingo | ;;later tell danielpbarron Checking out my KoL inventory... What sorts of uncommon things might you be interested in pricing... | [08:06] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [08:06] |
danielpbarron | BingoBoingo, there are so many items.. if you could get a screenshot or something.. | [08:07] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: Well, time trappings, the whole outfit. | [08:08] |
danielpbarron | BingoBoingo, you might be better off selling it in the mall; I'm not really interested in buying stuff for BTC, if that's what you meant | [08:09] |
danielpbarron | with the time trappings, the key is to use a wand to transform them into whatever item is selling for the most | [08:10] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: Well, meat or BTC. I'd rather keep the trio together. TIme limited content and all that. | [08:10] |
dub | KoL? | [08:11] |
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danielpbarron | 20:43:11 <+mircea_popescu> why do all the supposed payments end in .9997 ? << if it's anything like the counterparty burn for xcp, the software puts a limit on 1 BTC per burn, and their reason was to make it harder for whales to burn a huge amount too easily (to make it "more fair" for the little guys) | [08:13] |
danielpbarron | BingoBoingo, if you're getting back into playing, the time set is a nice thing to have; it's one of the most efficient ways to get extra adventures per day | [08:14] |
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danielpbarron | you can get more efficient by ditching the hat and pants for other stuff, but the sword is the best hand held item for that purpose (i think) | [08:14] |
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BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: It was indeed a nice pull from storage, but... Everything in this world is negotiable... And the set together has an added bonus | [08:15] |
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danielpbarron | right, what i mean is, you can exceed that bonus with other gear, but we're talking about a difference of a few adventures per day | [08:16] |
benkay | asciilifeform: regarding pumps, would a peristaltic work? | [08:16] |
benkay | ;;gettrust assbot Rassah | [08:16] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask Rassah!~quassel@2601:a:f80:551:beae:c5ff:fe45:db9e. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Rassah: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Rassah | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Rassah | Rated since: Fri Jun 3 23:49:22 2011 | [08:16] |
asciilifeform | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7KIcwAn0FU | [08:17] |
assbot | Tetris music on Stepper Motors! - YouTube | [08:17] |
benkay | ;;gettrust kuzetsa | [08:19] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa. Trust relationship from user benkay to user kuzetsa: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=kuzetsa | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kuzetsa | Rated since: Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012 | [08:19] |
benkay | ;;gettrust assbot kuzetsa | [08:19] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa. Trust relationship from user assbot to user kuzetsa: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=kuzetsa | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kuzetsa | Rated since: Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012 | [08:19] |
benkay | kuzetsa: uses gribbles db, actually. if you've got a +1 from someone in assbot's wot, you can self-up as you've discovered. | [08:20] |
benkay | light coupling, wot wot | [08:20] |
benkay | [08:23] | |
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asciilifeform | benkay: i considered peristaltic. turns out, others have tried - they end up 'burping' | [08:23] |
asciilifeform | benkay: which is a shame, because old medical pumps are a dime a dozen on 'ebay.' | [08:24] |
benkay | 'burping'? | [08:24] |
benkay | asciilifeform: 'burping'? | [08:24] |
asciilifeform | benkay: smallest 'quantum' of pumpage ends up being rather large. | [08:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 39 @ 0.0131 = 0.5109 BTC [+] | [08:25] |
benkay | ah, makes sense. | [08:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20591 @ 0.00080065 = 16.4862 BTC [+] | [08:27] |
asciilifeform | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3aNpJTwwmc << more for aficionados | [08:30] |
assbot | Canon in D major - in stepper motor - YouTube | [08:30] |
dub | prefer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aArSn4IhHI | [08:35] |
assbot | We are the champions - YouTube | [08:35] |
asciilifeform | lol | [08:36] |
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nubbins` | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9idfQVkqKyw | [08:56] |
assbot | Rachmaninov Prelude in g minor - Op. 23 No. 5 - Gilels - YouTube | [08:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 35 @ 0.16 = 5.6 BTC [-] | [08:57] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: Ah, I see the time set declined in value as well due to competitive alternatives existing nao | [08:58] |
danielpbarron | BingoBoingo, yeah; the petrified time item is worth a lot more now since it's impossible to reverse the conversion | [08:59] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: Well, it was always worth more than any part, but... Back in the say the set used to be a 100+ million meat sort of deal | [09:00] |
BingoBoingo | Fuck, BTC would have been a better investment | [09:00] |
danielpbarron | my hemp backpack lost a lot of value when they implemented the back inventory slot and released an official mr. store style backback :< | [09:00] |
danielpbarron | went from nearly 100 million meat down to 30 something million now | [09:01] |
nubbins` | i uh | [09:01] |
nubbins` | oh, you're talking about a game | [09:01] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: On the plus side ignoring the thing for 6+ years means there's new content nao at least | [09:01] |
BingoBoingo | nubbins`: Didn't you get the memo that BTC is money for games? | [09:02] |
nubbins` | i thought btc was the game | [09:03] |
BingoBoingo | nubbins`: BTC is the game that binds all other games | [09:03] |
nubbins` | you're saying these things are MONEY?! | [09:03] |
BingoBoingo | nubbins`: Nah, I'm saying games are connected by games nao. | [09:04] |
BingoBoingo | Games all the way down. | [09:04] |
nubbins` | right, right | [09:04] |
danielpbarron | i sent Jick a message for him to answer on his podcast, telling him he should accept BTC for Mr. A's; he shot it down and mostly focused on the "tone" i used | [09:04] |
danielpbarron | then I started trying to buy/sell meat for BTC in the game's official chat; got a message from Multi Czar telling me i'd get my account disabled if i continued.. | [09:05] |
danielpbarron | even though their terms of use don't explicitly forbid buying/selling meat | [09:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.16 = 2.4 BTC [-] | [09:06] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: Well, think more like mircea_popescu and what he did with Eve. You can trade shares of 1BTC corp for S.MPOE shares. Maybe start a 1BTMeat clan? | [09:07] |
danielpbarron | i've got the counterparty thing; i think that is far enough removed from the act of buying/selling meat | [09:08] |
danielpbarron | and I don't promote it in-game | [09:08] |
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danielpbarron | most users of KoL are pretty hostile to BTC anyway; there is a very strong socialist bent in there | [09:09] |
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mircea_popescu | hey moiety! | [16:30] |
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mircea_popescu | dub: this is an invite but i've had pre-invites before << wtf is this invite to invite, ask to ask, meta bullshit anyway ? | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | do they send out "mr schmukersson will impulsively fuck mrs schmukersson thursday, august 15th around 7:12 pm, your presence is kindly solicited" spam too ? | [16:57] |
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mircea_popescu | bah im fucking late to the party | [16:58] |
mircea_popescu | yo peoples! YOU SHOULD HAVE SAVED MY DATE! | [16:58] |
pankkake | uh, I got some altcoins to 1MPGRCrbib3aFGtTCLF5nADZcLEAgdTu7E | [16:59] |
pankkake | someone made a mistake? | [16:59] |
Pierre_Rochard | ;;rate princessnell 1 Rays fan | [16:59] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user princessnell has been recorded. | [16:59] |
mircea_popescu | benkay: hey have you guys heard about this ICBC auto insurance monopoly in BC? << kinda why i was so lulzed out at the entire "icbc is in pink sheets" nyse debacle. | [16:59] |
mircea_popescu | that thing's probably worth more than the whole us atm. | [16:59] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rated princessnell | [16:59] |
gribble | You rated user princessnell on Thu Jun 12 00:45:23 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: She's smart.. | [16:59] |
mircea_popescu | aok | [17:00] |
mircea_popescu | danielpbarron: << if it's anything like the counterparty burn for xcp << supposedly this is not a burn, they intend to spend it. | [17:01] |
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mircea_popescu | benkay: this is what happens when you let the wimmins manage projects without oversight << word, seriously. and you should see what happens when you let them manage kids w/o oversight. | [17:02] |
chetty | http://nakamotoinstitute.org/gpg-contracts/ | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | danielpbarron: i sent Jick a message for him to answer on his podcast, telling him he should accept BTC for Mr. A's; he shot it down and mostly focused on the "tone" i used << incredible the gall of these fuckwits. | [17:04] |
assbot | GPG Contracts | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | here's nobody doing nothing, and he has like... opinions on bitcoin and issues with tone and whatnot ? | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | we need a bigger jail. | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | chetty yeah, the guys asked for permission to republish | [17:05] |
chetty | [17:06] | |
mircea_popescu | Naphex so how was vacation ? new gf ? | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | chetty not you. women. | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony: "- We reserve the right to use up to 5000 BTC from the pre-sale while the pre-sale is running in order to speed up development." << funny they didn't reserve it before the fucking thing started. | [17:07] |
mircea_popescu | translation : "that asshole mp is putting pressure on our liquidity providers (what, you didn't think we OWNED the btc we're presenting as having been invested by third parties ?!) and so we won't be able to keep the charade up without recirculating some capital. sorry!" | [17:08] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bhknd/btc_is_like_a_drug/ | [17:08] |
pankkake | hence http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bge40/im_crying_with_joy_over_here_my_toes_are_curling/ | [17:08] |
assbot | BTC is like a drug : Bitcoin | [17:08] |
assbot | Im crying with joy over here, my toes are curling in untold glee, I have little doubt that I shall live to see this, all of it. : Buttcoin | [17:08] |
pankkake | http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bhf59/bitcoin_taps_into_efficiencies_in_the_camwhore/ eh | [17:09] |
assbot | Bitcoin taps into efficiencies in the camwhore market : Buttcoin | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake hehehe "btc did it | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | "Dear lord this is absolutely fucking grade-A insane. I had to read that first paragraph 4 times just because I just couldn't believe somebody would ever intentionally write something so convoluted. And it doesn't improve as the paper continues. In all seriousness, this reads almost exactly like the deranged manifestos that are left behind by school shooters, that is the vibe I get from whatever the fuck you want to ca | [17:11] |
mircea_popescu | ll this" | [17:11] |
mircea_popescu | i suppose the word he's looking for is "terrorism" | [17:11] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform there you go. it was not stalin's fault. the people wanted, nay, the people needed it. all of it. | [17:12] |
mike_c | sometimes this channel is a sausage fest. save the date's are very reasonable. you don't have all the details figured out, but you know the day and don't want people to book something else. | [17:13] |
mircea_popescu | "A verbose and condescending essay written by a child who has never encountered true malice or been hungry in his whole life." << o, "you've never been hungry thus what you have to say is unimportant". because yeah, that's true value : to find out from the frequently hungry how they dun it! | [17:13] |
pankkake | > I work in the adult comic industry and we sometimes publish furry comics (anthropomorphic people) and we frequently get taking down by banks and payment processors for distributing "bestiality." | [17:13] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c how do you know the date if you don';t have other things (presumably, the girl ?) figured out ? | [17:13] |
pankkake | oh god, furries coming to bitcoin | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | afaik it goes like this : pick a girl, pick a date, party. | [17:14] |
mike_c | hahaha. | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake no that's quite old. | [17:14] |
Pierre_Rochard | chetty: please let us know if you have any other candidates for republication | [17:14] |
mike_c | no. 1) pick a girl. 2) she picks the date | [17:14] |
mike_c | 3) she starts planning for 6 months | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c you're not picking a girl then. | [17:14] |
mike_c | 4) party | [17:14] |
mike_c | hm, that is a point | [17:15] |
mike_c | who would want to marry a girl? | [17:15] |
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mircea_popescu | ask around :D | [17:15] |
mike_c | full-grown woman is enough to manage. | [17:15] |
mircea_popescu | why'd you marry a full grown woman ? | [17:16] |
ThickAsThieves | my brother got surprise-eloped last week | [17:16] |
mircea_popescu | they ran out of friendship cards in your town ? | [17:16] |
mike_c | mircea_popescu: tax benefits. | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | trying to fix a problem with the town through marriage is not unlike trying to fix poor reception by holding the antenna in certain ways or a malfunctioning computer by running the tap nearby. | [17:18] |
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mircea_popescu | davout: was the new mpex key advertised anywhere ? << in faq and linked here. | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu | Pierre_Rochard the SA reddit subsection thinks you suck nao. | [17:19] |
davout | mircea_popescu: yea, saw the link here but i was missing the signature bit | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu | it's signed itself (there's a link to the pgp sks infrastructure with my signature on it) | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu | a nm jurov said so. sorry, im parsing the logs rather than compiling them. | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform how about this btw ? when confronted with the logs, i naturally settled on parsing rather than compiling. is this because im stupid or is this beause parsing is better ? | [17:20] |
benkay | low investment upfront for middling-to-poor performance. | [17:21] |
benkay | ;) | [17:21] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: you might have been thinking of 'interpret' | [17:22] |
Pierre_Rochard | chetty: it is, I’ve been reading through as much as I can to see which articles are especially crypto/econ/bitcoin centered like GPG Contracts (and obvs to learn & think) | [17:22] |
mircea_popescu | i go through it one ;line at a time and comment. sometimes this results in redundancy | [17:22] |
asciilifeform | i suspect that most of us do this. | [17:22] |
ThickAsThieves | cuz we wish we were there | [17:23] |
ThickAsThieves | so we pretend | [17:24] |
ThickAsThieves | and no one minds | [17:24] |
benkay | wait ethsuisse? waht is this? | [17:24] |
ThickAsThieves | its the dev team | [17:24] |
asciilifeform | ;;later tell moiety shame that modern pc includes no addressable stepper motor. but if you own, e.g. a scanner, you can still play this beautiful music... | [17:24] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:24] |
kakobrekla | or a floppy | [17:25] |
asciilifeform | ;;later tell moiety a true maestro will play, say, j.s. bach, correctly! that is, gigantic lift motors for the low octaves, little floppy drive head drivers for the highest. | [17:26] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:26] |
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asciilifeform | ;;later tell moiety further example, if you liked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2UmkfixRH8 | [17:27] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:27] |
assbot | CNC machine playing tetris and still alive - YouTube | [17:27] |
mthreat | asciilifeform: the first IBM PC had some kind of relay, you could access it with the BASIC instruction "MOTOR ON" or "MOTOR OFF". If you turned it on and off in a loop, it was a buzzer. | [17:27] |
asciilifeform | mthreat: the floppy. | [17:27] |
kakobrekla | is this thing on? | [17:27] |
cazalla | pankkake, that address is what BingoBoingo gave me to send ATC | [17:28] |
mthreat | asciilifeform: I don't remember, maybe, but it sounded like a relay... | [17:28] |
benkay | hi kakobrekla | [17:28] |
pankkake | well, he has the private key, but I have it too. not smart :p | [17:28] |
kakobrekla | a ok works . hi benkay . | [17:28] |
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mircea_popescu | pankkake: mainstream media prepping the general public for inflation << precisely. | [17:29] |
mthreat | asciilifeform: cassette drive motor possibly | [17:29] |
mircea_popescu | nothing lulzier than watching teh propaganda machine trying to spin utter failure into being chic, hip, and what these blasted youngsters want. | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu |
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pankkake | unfortunately there's no easy way to remove an address from bitcoin-qt | [17:31] |
pankkake | and armory has a "swipe" feature, too | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: Sexy Saffron appears to be parlaying it up << the sign of a smart girl. you only need give a little push. | [17:31] |
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nubbins` | where i come from, you're not cool unless your money is worth less today than it was yesterday | [17:32] |
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mthreat | nubbins`: that's a lot of places | [17:33] |
mthreat | starbucks raised their prices in Buenos Aires again yesterday. Since December 2013, the coffee I get has gone from 30 to 44 pesos | [17:34] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat why do you drink starbucks tho ? | [17:34] |
fluffypony | Pheeva put a TV ad out, it's actually kinda decent: | [17:35] |
* | fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW3fM95L7RU&feature=youtu.be | [17:35] |
assbot | Pheeva - Plus - Gyft - Troll TV Ad - YouTube | [17:35] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu: because i don't know good vs. bad coffee probably, and it's the 2nd closest after Cafe Martinez (probably worse) | [17:35] |
princessnell | Pierre_Rochard maybe http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ and http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ for posterity http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institution-a-guide/ | [17:35] |
assbot | A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:35] |
assbot | The politics of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:35] |
assbot | Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:35] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat i've never paid more than about 25 or so for coffee myself, and never had a bad cup yet. | [17:36] |
princessnell | Pierre_Rochard rota case study (i <3 law and econ) http://trilema.com/2012/the-mpex-rota/ and http://trilema.com/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/ and http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/ | [17:36] |
assbot | The MPEx Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | had some pretty good, not much of a coffee drinker myself, but i mean... they prolly import their shit. | [17:36] |
assbot | Case I - Wences vs MPEx, Breach of fiduciary duty pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:36] |
assbot | ROTA, post mortem. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:36] |
cazalla | i wouldn't use pheeva on account the dev is fat albert | [17:36] |
pankkake | http://trilema.com/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/ | [17:37] |
assbot | The future of Bitcoin regulation pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:37] |
pankkake | http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ | [17:37] |
assbot | The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:37] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu: I get the "venti" (20oz) size | [17:37] |
princessnell | Pierre_Rochard also probably WoT lit http://trilema.com/2014/advanced-wot-course-how-the-wot-is-attacked-and-how-it-defends-itself/ | [17:37] |
assbot | Advanced WoT course : how the WoT is attacked, and how it defends itself. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:37] |
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Pierre_Rochard | princessnell: thanks! mircea_popescu: permission to republish? In general longer/older/timeless articles go to the literature section, shorter/newer/“current events” go to the Memory Pool. | [17:38] |
nubbins` | mthreat: do yourself a favor and stop drinking charbucks | [17:38] |
nubbins` | you may be surprised to learn that coffee has a taste | [17:38] |
cazalla | hipster baristas up in here | [17:39] |
nubbins` | crikey mate, you have hipsters down under? | [17:39] |
cazalla | i live in the capital of hipsters, feminists, greenies in australia : | [17:40] |
nubbins` | knowing what i know about you, this must drive you to the brink of suicide each day | [17:40] |
mircea_popescu | aite, gotta do some meetings nao. bbl all. | [17:41] |
cazalla | nubbins`, i'll out and see them do it first | [17:42] |
cazalla | hold out* | [17:42] |
nubbins` | that's my boy | [17:43] |
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kakobrekla | !up equex | [17:43] |
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kakobrekla | GOOD MORNING EQUEX | [17:43] |
nubbins` | "i live in a place with stylish young people, independent women, and those who care about our natural environment. it's a real drag." | [17:44] |
cazalla | they are none of those things though | [17:44] |
nubbins` | to you, sure | [17:44] |
cazalla | if they cared about their environment, they'd at least grow veg and raise their own meat at bare minimum | [17:45] |
nubbins` | just like you're not a reasonable adult worthy of dignity and respect... to them | [17:45] |
nubbins` | :D | [17:45] |
nubbins` | is that the bare minimum tho? | [17:45] |
cazalla | if they were independent, they wouldn't need handouts while undertaking women's studies | [17:45] |
nubbins` | raising your own meat? | [17:45] |
cazalla | i think so | [17:45] |
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cazalla | although if you asked any of them, they'd tell you i'm running rabbit auschwitz here | [17:46] |
nubbins` | you know raising meat animals in the first place isn't particularly great for the environment | [17:46] |
nubbins` | hm, china received $34m in foreign aid from canada in 2012 | [17:47] |
nubbins` | http://cidpnsi.ca/blog/portfolio/canadas-foreign-aid/ | [17:48] |
assbot | Canada's Foreign Aid spending around the world | CIDP | Canadian International Development Platform | [17:48] |
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rithm | SFW noob video: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=95714897 | [17:49] |
assbot | 401 Authorization Required | [17:49] |
pankkake | $56M to Russia | [17:50] |
ThickAsThieves | NSFW you meant | [17:50] |
cazalla | depends where you work eh | [17:50] |
ThickAsThieves | well they didnt invent NSFW for sex workers | [17:50] |
mthreat | !b 3 | [17:51] |
assbot | Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2XHYV25.txt ) | [17:51] |
nubbins` | $65m to gaza & west bank | [17:52] |
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cazalla | china and russia given aid, shows how little i know | [17:54] |
mike_c | "So more economic growth (spurred on by more borrowing and spending) would help alleviate low wage growth" .. and i'm done. | [17:55] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://fr.anco.is/2014/07/23/x-eur-july-23rd-2014-statement/ | [17:56] |
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rithm | seemed safe to me | [18:04] |
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chetty | http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118747/ivy-league-schools-are-overrated-send-your-kids-elsewhere | [18:07] |
assbot | Ivy League Schools Are Overrated. Send Your Kids Elsewhere. | New Republic | [18:08] |
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ThickAsThieves | "Before he started college, he spent most of his time reading and writing short stories. Three years later, he’s painfully insecure, worrying about things my public-educated friends don’t give a second thought to, like the stigma of eating lunch alone and whether he’s “networking” enough. " | [18:09] |
pankkake | “Return on investment”: that’s the phrase you often hear today when people talk about college. | [18:11] |
pankkake | college graduates are bagholders | [18:11] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/ | [18:14] |
nubbins` | the stigma of eating lunch alone | [18:14] |
nubbins` | i tell ya, worlds you didn't know existed | [18:14] |
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benkay | morning, bitcoinpete | [18:15] |
bitcoinpete | howdy benkay | [18:15] |
benkay | how was pottery? | [18:15] |
pankkake | I gave the private key to MP at a time I wasn't sure I could even transfer the coins in a timely manner | [18:15] |
pankkake | so the private key is now known to multiple people | [18:16] |
pankkake | and in multiple bitcoin clients | [18:16] |
bitcoinpete | benkay: my hands are still stained from the autumn leaves glaze | [18:16] |
pankkake | (well, altcoin) | [18:16] |
benkay | gotcha. | [18:17] |
benkay | this rescanning the blockchain thing is a total bitch, isn't it? | [18:17] |
bitcoinpete | benkay: but for it being my first time on the wheel in a close to 15 years, quite well :D | [18:17] |
benkay | what, after all, is the point of a "database" if one's not going to actually organize data in a useful fashion within? | [18:18] |
benkay |
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ThickAsThieves | bitcoinpete, unless i need more coffee, mp isnt allowing people to short ETH, he's allowing them to long it | [18:19] |
pankkake | it's a Berkeley DB file | [18:19] |
pankkake | there are tools to edit it, though | [18:19] |
ThickAsThieves | they get more ETH for their money now | [18:19] |
benkay | what an unmitigated goddamned disaster. | [18:20] |
ThickAsThieves | but MP doesnt buy it til later | [18:20] |
bitcoinpete | ThickAsThieves: they get more later | [18:20] |
ThickAsThieves | some would have to lend ETH to short it | [18:20] |
bitcoinpete | mp is selling eth | [18:20] |
ThickAsThieves | who's lending? | [18:20] |
ThickAsThieves | ETH | [18:20] |
bitcoinpete | not me ;) | [18:20] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [18:20] |
benkay |
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ThickAsThieves | so no way to short it | [18:21] |
benkay | 'cept the classic popescuian naked short | [18:21] |
bitcoinpete | ThickAsThieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2014#764462 | [18:21] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [18:21] |
bitcoinpete | benkay: lol | [18:22] |
bitcoinpete | pretty sure he has his ways | [18:22] |
ThickAsThieves | ^o^ | [18:22] |
benkay | 70% odds it's a naked short. | [18:22] |
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ThickAsThieves | i still dont see how I get to short ETH by entering MP's future offer | [18:23] |
benkay | mp's going short, and offering to sell the thing to anyone at a future date below what it's selling for now. | [18:23] |
ThickAsThieves | right | [18:23] |
benkay | if mp's going short, how can you go short by taking the other side of his trade? | [18:23] |
ThickAsThieves | this is my point | [18:24] |
benkay | who's claiming that he's offering a vehicle for others to short? | [18:24] |
pankkake | I think that's incorrect too. it allows you to get a better price if you're long, or MAYBE short it as long as you think it's won't go as low as 2.5x less | [18:24] |
ThickAsThieves | bitcoinpete says "Effectively, MP is allowing you to “short” ETH." | [18:24] |
bitcoinpete | lol to the correction car! | [18:25] |
benkay | oh, bitcoinpete does derivatives now? | [18:25] |
ThickAsThieves | just making sure we stay on-message! | [18:25] |
pankkake | wait, why the fuck are they callimg themselves ETH Suisse? I just remembered: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_polytechnique_f%C3%A9d%C3%A9rale_de_Zurich | [18:25] |
assbot | cole polytechnique fdrale de Zurich Wikipdia | [18:25] |
ThickAsThieves | solidarity! | [18:25] |
ThickAsThieves | for the motherland! | [18:25] |
benkay | pankkake: "credit suisse" perhaps? | [18:25] |
ThickAsThieves | or, i think bitcoinpete is cool so i dont want to see him have errors in his shit | [18:26] |
benkay | -assets proofreading is best proofreading. | [18:26] |
benkay | i am deploy from car | [18:27] |
bitcoinpete | s/short/long | [18:27] |
benkay | devops borat would approve | [18:27] |
bitcoinpete | if that vernacular works... | [18:27] |
benkay | it's almost like you use a real text editor too, bitcoinpete! | [18:27] |
bitcoinpete | "to short" sounds so much better than "to long" | [18:27] |
benkay | ;) | [18:28] |
bitcoinpete | ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 drinks coffee, knows derivativespeak | [18:28] |
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benkay | to go long | [18:29] |
benkay | to take a long position | [18:29] |
benkay | (in) | [18:29] |
ThickAsThieves | i'd say you could almost short it if you bought real ETH, sold off-market for slight discount, then repurchased from MP, but you'd still be betting only on the availble spread, if price dropped below MP's offer, your short would be fukt ... even then they tell you cant do anyhting with the ETH til genblock is made... soooo | [18:29] |
bitcoinpete | to golong | [18:29] |
ThickAsThieves | he's basiclaly selling ETH at a discount | [18:29] |
ThickAsThieves | cheapcoinz! | [18:29] |
bitcoinpete | right! | [18:29] |
benkay | ;;ticker | [18:29] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.01, Best ask: 622.87, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 622.87, 24 hour volume: 2729.87411553, 24 hour low: 618.0, 24 hour high: 624.99, 24 hour vwap: 621.168150006 | [18:29] |
benkay | ThickAsThieves: scammor | [18:30] |
bitcoinpete | the smart kids will be all over mp's offer | [18:30] |
ThickAsThieves | haha | [18:30] |
ThickAsThieves | soon | [18:30] |
benkay | what's smart about buying ether? | [18:30] |
ThickAsThieves | nothing | [18:30] |
benkay | wine with shit in it is still just shitty wine | [18:30] |
pankkake | price is tempting regardless | [18:30] |
bitcoinpete | benkay: beats me, ask the *kids* buying the shit | [18:31] |
ThickAsThieves | you could argue that the noob hypewagen is strong enough to carry ETH value above MP's offer | [18:31] |
mike_c | but shitty wine at half price! | [18:31] |
bitcoinpete | ThickAsThieves: entirely possible | [18:31] |
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benkay | i guess a hedge against ether going somewhere isn't such a bad idea, but it totally fails the good investments criteria. | [18:32] |
benkay | starting with not actually existing. | [18:32] |
benkay | it's just the whole "i missed btc, maybe this will make me rich" self delusion alllllllll over again. | [18:32] |
ThickAsThieves | i think the best part about the offer is it's potential to disrupt the live offering | [18:32] |
pankkake | if you look at similar coins, like nxt and ripple, they're still valued quite high | [18:33] |
benkay | vb & co. imagine they're actually doing something, but they're just draining the wallets of latecomers | [18:33] |
ThickAsThieves | i'd love for people to be buying from MP instead of the actual people | [18:33] |
princessnell | i love that it reveals the exhuberance | [18:33] |
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pankkake | !up stormlight | [18:34] |
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benkay | "quite high" sure, but are they going to go from .01 US per to 10k per? | [18:34] |
bitcoinpete | ThickAsThieves: they still need the patience tho | [18:34] |
bitcoinpete | 8 months is 8 years for "i wanna rich nao" ppl | [18:34] |
pankkake | benkay: not my point, my point is about taking MP's offer | [18:34] |
ThickAsThieves | and it's an audience that hates mp, soooo, fat chance | [18:34] |
asciilifeform | is everyone familiar with the proverbial 'money trap' ? | [18:34] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe he can buy their love | [18:34] |
bitcoinpete | asciilifeform: do tell | [18:34] |
asciilifeform | container with, say, banana, and a hole big enough for the beast's hand, but not if it holds the bait | [18:35] |
ThickAsThieves | isnt that a Tom hanks movie? | [18:35] |
bitcoinpete | ThickAsThieves: maybe if they were camgirls | [18:35] |
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Pierre_Rochard | ;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Amoraim of b-a | [18:35] |
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bitcoinpete | hand in a cookie jar thing | [18:35] |
benkay | pankkake: yeah, i know what you're saying. this discussion hearkens back to a thing a wise old man harps on about how if you can have the patience to see past the next 6 months to two years you can make trades the rest of the market won't consider because they want 17%/annum *now* | [18:35] |
ThickAsThieves | Sexy Saffron better not tell reddit she's an mp employee | [18:35] |
asciilifeform | monkey reaches in, grasps banana, refuses to let go, sits there. until hunter shows up. | [18:35] |
bitcoinpete | Pierre_Rochard: why ty | [18:35] |
asciilifeform | this is quite analogous to the altchain folks | [18:35] |
bitcoinpete | asciilifeform: also how herschel tricked one of the channukah goblins. eggs in the jar iirc | [18:36] |
benkay | bitcoinpete: yup. | [18:36] |
pigeons | hey mircea_popescu I havent followed, but i saw you are selling eth foward contract or similar. I wanted to suggest putting something similar on mpex, i think that would do well | [18:36] |
asciilifeform | if any of them took the trouble to write something interesting (e.g. system analogous to the original btc but of proper, rather than 'power ranger' quality) and resisted the temptation of premine shenanigans, etc. - but no. | [18:37] |
asciilifeform | can't let go of banana. | [18:37] |
benkay | asciilifeform: even if they could reimplement the thing from scratch, it still wouldn't touch btc proper. | [18:37] |
benkay | and they can't "let go of banana" and write a real wallet, adding value to the ecosystem. | [18:38] |
pigeons | oh dont tell me mpex is still down from weeks ago? | [18:38] |
kakobrekla | power ranger has infinite hitpoints. | [18:38] |
benkay | mpex.ws, pigeons | [18:38] |
pigeons | thanks | [18:38] |
benkay | .co works as well for me iirc | [18:38] |
pigeons | go isnt working at the moment from my location at least | [18:39] |
pigeons | co | [18:39] |
ThickAsThieves | mpex.wallstreet | [18:41] |
bitcoinpete | Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb · 38m Up to 19thC, people in the Levant changed religion to stay in the land. Today they change land to keep religion. (Druzes⇒Maronites⇔Shiites) << sounds downright civilized | [18:41] |
asciilifeform | benkay: point is not that a hypothetical altchain created by thinking people would displace traditional btc, but that it is theoretically possible to build something that's at least worth thinking about. | [18:43] |
bitcoinpete | asciilifeform: but that'll never get teh community on board. teh views! | [18:44] |
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asciilifeform | no shortage of possible experiments to choose from (e.g. Lamportian 67% theoretical maximum threshold (see 'byzantine generals') instead of 51; programmable work functions; a hundred other things) | [18:45] |
asciilifeform | !s turingcoin | [18:46] |
assbot | 2 results for 'turingcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=turingcoin | [18:46] |
asciilifeform | !s slavecoin | [18:46] |
assbot | 22 results for 'slavecoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=slavecoin | [18:46] |
pankkake | !s coincoin | [18:46] |
assbot | 1 results for 'coincoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coincoin | [18:46] |
asciilifeform | but no. somehow altchain folks can only think of duplicating spam stock business model. | [18:47] |
benkay | actual programmers being few and far between. | [18:47] |
chetty | http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/22/Islamic-State-Says-Mannequins-in-Maul-Must-Wear-Veils | [18:47] |
assbot | Islamic State Says Mannequins Must Wear Veils | [18:47] |
benkay | maul? | [18:50] |
bitcoinpete | http://bps-research-digest.blogspot.ca/2014/07/what-textbooks-dont-tell-you-one-of.html | [18:51] |
assbot | BPS Research Digest: What the textbooks don't tell you - one of psychology's most famous experiments was seriously flawed | [18:51] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.0142 = 0.8094 BTC [+] | [18:56] |
chetty | http://bps-research-digest.blogspot.ca/2014/04/a-self-fulfilling-fallacy.html#at_pco=smlwn-1.0&at_si=53cfda39a97adc45&at_ab=per-3&at_pos=0&at_tot=1 | [18:57] |
assbot | BPS Research Digest: A self-fulfilling fallacy? | [18:57] |
bitcoinpete | ;;nethash | [18:59] |
gribble | 129685563.491 | [18:59] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.81503056 BTC to 12`514 shares, 14504 satoshi per share | [18:59] |
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bitcoinpete | "SEC To Complete Rules Aimed at Reducing Money-Fund Risks: Plan Would Allow Money Funds to Temporarily Block Investors from Withdrawing Money in Times of Stress" | [19:01] |
assbot | trixisowned +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 | [19:01] |
benkay | hohoho yes link please, bitcoinpete | [19:01] |
bitcoinpete | http://online.wsj.com/articles/sec-to-vote-on-final-money-market-mutual-fund-rules-1406124323 | [19:01] |
assbot | SEC To Complete Rules Aimed at Reducing Money-Fund Risks - WSJ | [19:01] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 23.66675304 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2058 satoshi per share | [19:01] |
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kakobrekla | !up trixisowned | [19:02] |
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trixisowned | neh | [19:02] |
trixisowned | just wanted to lol @ https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 together | [19:03] |
assbot | Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 | [19:03] |
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bitcoinpete | trixisowned: myeah. almost passed mastercoin exodus thing of 4740.6200979 BTC | [19:05] |
benkay | so. sad. | [19:05] |
danielpbarron | https://blockchain.info/address/1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr | [19:06] |
assbot | Bitcoin Address 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr | [19:06] |
danielpbarron | 2`130.83749757 BTC burned | [19:06] |
benkay | "The vote ends more than five years of struggle over how to address structural vulnerabilities in the funds that encourage investors to bolt at the first sign of trouble." LTCM anyone? | [19:08] |
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ThickAsThieves | SEC Seeks To Install Ponzi Throttle | [19:12] |
ThickAsThieves | "Financial Stability Oversight Council, have said such redemption restrictions could spur, rather than curb, investor stampedes." indeed | [19:14] |
benkay | ThickAsThieves: http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/alc0nzy/media/IPD_VOLVO_C30_NOS_TANKS.jpg.html | [19:15] |
assbot | IPD_VOLVO_C30_NOS_TANKS.jpg Photo by alc0nzy | Photobucket | [19:15] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.1411 = 1.2699 BTC [-] | [19:16] |
ThickAsThieves | "Under the plan, fund boards would have the discretion to impose redemption fees of up to 2%, or to temporarily halt redemptions altogether, if their weekly pool of cash or cash like assets drops below the agency's required ratio of 30%" | [19:16] |
ThickAsThieves | your investments, now 70% off! | [19:17] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;bcstats | [19:19] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 312136 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 343 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18789848431.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.38432 | [19:19] |
mike_c | is mpex.co going to get fixed ever? or is it just dead. | [19:21] |
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ThickAsThieves | it's mpex.ws now | [19:22] |
ThickAsThieves | and some other one | [19:22] |
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mike_c | ok. so .co isn't coming back | [19:22] |
ThickAsThieves | that i dont know | [19:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 49 @ 0.01425 = 0.6983 BTC [-] | [19:25] |
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bitcoinpete | benkay: |
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bitcoinpete | bc wants to be like california and shit | [19:32] |
bitcoinpete | with their own little movie industry and everything | [19:33] |
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bitcoinpete | time to catch up on weird al... | [19:34] |
lobbes | the problem I have with weird al nowadays is that I don't even know the songs he is parodying anymore | [19:36] |
bitcoinpete | lobbes: sounds more like your problem than his ;) | [19:38] |
bitcoinpete | http://vevo.ly/yRwiKB << nice little stab at dogederps | [19:38] |
nubbins` | how's it compare to rates in the rest of canada? | [19:39] |
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bitcoinpete | nubbins`: not too sure | [19:41] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 407 @ 0.00277422 = 1.1291 BTC [+] {7} | [19:46] |
danielpbarron | bitcoinpete, hahah same here | [19:47] |
danielpbarron | weird al was the first artist I ever bought a cd for; I heard his parodies before the originals | [19:47] |
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danielpbarron | so i guess.. not same here.... heh | [19:48] |
danielpbarron | oh, lobbes said that; whoops | [19:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 341 @ 0.00284852 = 0.9713 BTC [+] {6} | [19:54] |
pankkake | $proxies | [19:54] |
empyex | pankkake: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 1060 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 | [19:54] |
benkay | $mpexlag | [19:55] |
empyex | benkay: 561 milliseconds | [19:55] |
pankkake | !search goxlag | [19:56] |
assbot | 138 results for 'goxlag' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=goxlag | [19:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 527 @ 0.00285959 = 1.507 BTC [-] {4} | [20:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 250 @ 0.0028841 = 0.721 BTC [+] {6} | [20:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.140384 = 7.0192 BTC [-] {2} | [20:12] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.1403 = 0.8418 BTC [-] | [20:19] |
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benkay | http://opennamesystem.org/ | [20:21] |
assbot | Open Name System | [20:21] |
danielpbarron | neato; is this a Namecoin killer? | [20:22] |
benkay | can't say yet need moar read | [20:23] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.13374999 = 0.535 BTC [-] {2} | [20:24] |
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bitcoinpete | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hello/sense-know-more-sleep-better | [20:26] |
assbot | Sense: Know More. Sleep Better. by Hello — Kickstarter | [20:26] |
bitcoinpete | "The app tells you how well you slept, or didn't, by giving you a unique Sleep Score each night. You can begin to correlate interruptions in your sleep to external conditions and disturbances. You can play back key sound disturbances via the app to say “Ah, the garbage truck broke my sleep cycle at 3am. I didn’t even realize that.” | [20:27] |
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bitcoinpete | $99 and it's yours. delivery estimated in november 2014 | [20:28] |
asciilifeform | bitcoinpete: already done, ages ago, by various vendors ('zeo' - now defunct - had a fairly good machine.) | [20:28] |
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bitcoinpete | nao with apps! | [20:29] |
bitcoinpete | http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicetruong/2012/02/24/battle-of-the-zzzs-how-zeos-sleep-monitors-stack-up/ | [20:30] |
assbot | Battle of the Zzzs: How Zeo's Sleep Monitors Stack Up - Forbes | [20:30] |
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asciilifeform | the funny part is that wearing the electrodes utterly destroyed my sleep quality. and, on the other hand, the variants without electrodes ('actigraph' gadgets) are junk - they can only distinguish 'REM' from other phases of sleep, but nothing more. | [20:33] |
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danielpbarron | bitcoinpete, i already have a free app that does that sort of thing.. ended up deleting it because too many apps | [20:37] |
bitcoinpete | ya i once used one too | [20:38] |
danielpbarron | it figures it out based on your movements as you sleep | [20:38] |
bitcoinpete | but it only worked on my old spring mattress | [20:38] |
bitcoinpete | foam soaks up all the vibrations | [20:38] |
danielpbarron | i used it with success on a sofa | [20:38] |
bitcoinpete | and by vibrations i mean tossing and turning | [20:39] |
bitcoinpete | danielpbarron: ya i could see that | [20:39] |
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asciilifeform | reminds me of a legend (forgot where i heard it, perhaps even here.) | [20:43] |
asciilifeform | one fellow, (said to have lived in romania) built piezos into his bed legs | [20:43] |
asciilifeform | and logged pressure | [20:43] |
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asciilifeform | one day he went on a long journey, and when came back, discovered that max(weight) > him + wife. | [20:44] |
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asciilifeform | whether he stayed awake in school math and had the sense to look at the actual waveform (perhaps wife was fond of jumping on the bed?) before divorcing, i do not know. | [20:46] |
bitcoinpete | lol | [20:47] |
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bitcoinpete | sorta like othello with the handkerchief | [20:48] |
bitcoinpete | she had to be cheatin! | [20:48] |
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bitcoinpete | "But for those who missed out on getting in on Bitcoin early, Ethereum's launch represents something of another chance." | [20:54] |
bitcoinpete | http://www.businessinsider.com/ethereum-launches-ether-2014-7 << says it all | [20:54] |
assbot | Ethereum Launches Ether - Business Insider | [20:54] |
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benkay | I WAS JUST SAYING THIS | [20:54] |
pankkake | and I said it before you all, about all altcoins :) | [20:55] |
benkay | cept i guess "there will never be another {silicon,internet,bitcoin}" doesn't push views | [20:57] |
bitcoinpete | and it's only fair if everyone gets rich! | [20:57] |
mike_c | we are all above average drivers. | [20:58] |
bitcoinpete | with above average cocks | [20:58] |
mike_c | except the irish | [20:58] |
bitcoinpete | pretty sure the irish have below average everything | [20:58] |
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bitcoinpete | but what do i know | [20:59] |
bitcoinpete | well i know that this is hirarious: "Big Trend Capital Investment (HASH): We are engaged as a distributor of mining products and a novel mining service. We primarily service retail customers through storefronts such as Amazon, EBay, and our own eStore at BuyAHash.com." | [20:59] |
bitcoinpete | https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=HASH | [20:59] |
pankkake | never another silicon? | [20:59] |
assbot | Havelock Investments | [20:59] |
bitcoinpete | dat ipo | [21:00] |
bitcoinpete | and i'm off. later! | [21:00] |
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pankkake | but indeed, there will never be another internet. especially with ipv6 | [21:01] |
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benkay | i mean the kind of sociocultural upheaval that accompanied silicon and then the internet, and will eventually fall out of bitcoin, pankkake | [21:04] |
benkay | centralization of markets resulting in companies like ebay | [21:04] |
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benkay | danielpbarron: the little reading i've done suggests that it's not a namecoin killer, as that'd require...studying existing solutions and then doing it better. i've yet to find much support fot eh notion that the folks involved have done any research at all yet. | [21:07] |
benkay | "As of yet, no work has been done on adding support for blockchain domains to ONS and the ONS command line tools." | [21:07] |
pankkake | ugh, it's onename.io | [21:11] |
pankkake | they just do the same, but less, and worse | [21:11] |
thestringpuller | naemcoin is kinda cool tho | [21:11] |
pankkake | and they're really misleading users | [21:11] |
thestringpuller | OneName.io = facebook with gpg | [21:12] |
thestringpuller | didn't this already go down with keybase.io ? | [21:12] |
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benkay | keybase wanted your 'encrypted' private keys. | [21:20] |
asciilifeform | self-service gasenwagen. wave of the future. amazing! technology. | [21:20] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [21:20] |
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benkay | man the derp brigade is out in force today | [21:38] |
benkay | https://www.provetrust.com/ | [21:38] |
assbot | ProveTrust | [21:38] |
benkay | "play good with others" lost art of grammar | [21:39] |
pankkake | because no one can fake a facebook account | [21:40] |
benkay | quite the deep learners | [21:40] |
pankkake | and confusing trust (what businesses want) and identity verification (what the tax man wants) | [21:41] |
pankkake | http://www.reddit.com/r/greatapes omg, sometimes reddit delivers | [21:42] |
assbot | reddit.com: over 18? | [21:42] |
benkay | countdown to sub termination: 10... | [21:43] |
pankkake | https://i.imgur.com/bVojk6K.jpg | [21:44] |
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asciilifeform | benkay: sham-wots are as inevitable as shamchains. | [21:45] |
asciilifeform | they taste great together. like der fuhrer's walther and cyanide capsule. | [21:45] |
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thestringpuller | benkay: i like how many companies are appearing that can just be subverted with the WoT. | [22:29] |
benkay | i don't. it's a phenomenal waste of human capital. | [22:30] |
thestringpuller | just cattle. let them die off; we can scavenge the refuse for useful stuff afterwards. | [22:32] |
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midnightmagic | mircea_popescu: I found that labour-intensive salt cooking reference I mentioned the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRHNa9qdtlw#t=1096 | [22:37] |
assbot | A bite of China English subtitles EP1 The Gift of the Nature - YouTube | [22:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9407 @ 0.00005999 = 0.5643 BTC [+] {2} | [22:42] |
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fluffypony | mircea_popescu could be the largest æthereum holder with ease, yo - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563925.msg7991275#msg7991275 | [22:58] |
assbot | [RFC] thereum: a turing-complete coin distributed as per bitcoin's blockchain | [22:58] |
thestringpuller | so Ethereum tx script's are turing complete? | [23:00] |
thestringpuller | that sounds slightly dangerous on some levels... | [23:00] |
fluffypony | yes - this is æthereum tho | [23:01] |
thestringpuller | ~_~ @_@ <.<;; I don't know and have no opinion. | [23:01] |
fluffypony | which, from what I understand, is a fork that lets you just pick up the æthereum equivalent of your BTC balance | [23:01] |
thestringpuller | except that Taaki is not a "bitcoin legend" >:( | [23:01] |
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fluffypony | needs moar hero worships | [23:01] |
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mircea_popescu | Pierre_Rochard:mircea_popescu: permission to republish? << well, no. an article is one thing, but wholesale copying of trilema serves little purpose. put up an adnotated article list if you want, that seems to serve your purpose better, or if not do commentary on the individual articles | [23:39] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins`: mthreat: do yourself a favor and stop drinking charbucks << talking to ex-us-mil guy, "i'll tell you what starbucks is. back in the force, they'd make these largish tanks of coffee at the crack of down, keep them on reheat, throw them out at night. starbucks is pretty much like a drink out of that tank right before it getting thrown out. which is why they put all the cream and crap into it : gotta try and mas | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | k the badly burnt coffee" | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins`:"i live in a place with stylish young people, independent women, and those who care about our natural environment. it's a real drag." << i can see it. | [23:42] |
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chetty | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-23/argentina-debt-mediation-goes-surreal-neither-side-turns-meeting-black-market-peso-t | [23:45] |
Pierre_Rochard | mircea_popescu: understood, we’ll go the annotated article list route | [23:45] |
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mircea_popescu | chetty for the record, the peso was trading 12.2 - 12.7 yesterday | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | so their graphs are the usual crap. | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | also it never touched 12.x in march, talking out of ass these ppls. | [23:48] |
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chetty | yeah well people talk street price kinda need a street :P | [23:48] |
mthreat | chetty, mircea_popescu I got 12.2 pesos per USD 2 hours ago | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat exactly. | [23:50] |
mthreat | to pay for bad coffee | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat actually i see it's 12.3x atm. | [23:51] |
chetty | mthreat, seriously stay out of chatbucks, will rot your gut | [23:51] |
mthreat | ya, i usually get under the top "blue rate", but my cueva hasn't given me fake money | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake: and in multiple bitcoin clients << i never bothered to get a client myself so there's that. | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat i've not yet had a fake bill either. | [23:52] |
mircea_popescu | in about... i dunno, a bagful or so. | [23:52] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu maybe the cost of production is > than the value heh | [23:52] |
mircea_popescu | money here's a real joke, largest bill ~$8 | [23:52] |
chetty | I am thinking fake bills are a myth | [23:52] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat they're printing like crazy for sure, tho. usually i get ~40% new bills, but the last few buys i got 80-100% new bills. | [23:52] |
mthreat | sounds like the US :) | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | chetty just, cheaper for the govt to print em than for the independent crooks | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | so they drive them out of biz. | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | benkay: or is that not actually a text file? << hasn't been a texrfile for all of two years. | [23:54] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | so no way to short it << im shorting it. | [23:55] |
BingoBoingo | https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/492027099499462657 | [23:55] |
BingoBoingo | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=618163698&oldid=617800185 | [23:55] |
assbot | Reptilians: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | it does allow you to go into a technical short, by buying the future and selling your spot, if you hold any. | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | but this is a point of finesse | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | (basically it ensures that no institutionals will be holding eth today for the purpose of satysfying a mid or long term goal, is all) | [23:57] |
BingoBoingo | %t | [23:57] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 239 Last Price: 239 24h-Vol: 114k High: 239 Low: 210 VWAP: 222 | [23:57] |
chetty | http://uncoverobamacare.com/undercover-federal-agents-find-it-incredibly-easy-to-defraud-obamacare/ | [23:57] |
assbot | Uncover Obamacare | 11 of 12 Undercover Federal Agents Find It Incredibly Easy to Defraud ObamaCare | [23:57] |
BingoBoingo | %ob | [23:57] |
atcbot | 18k@242 47k@240 2k@239 | 140k@210 200k@202 45k@201 | [23:57] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/blog/morning-edition/2014/07/5-reasons-the-bitcoin-bowl-is-good-for-tampa-bays.html | [23:58] |
assbot | 5 reasons the Bitcoin Bowl is good for Tampa Bay's tech scene - Tampa Bay Business Journal | [23:58] |
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BingoBoingo | ^ Note BitPay isn't in Tampa Bay | [23:59] |
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