Forum logs for 24 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
BingoBoingo benkay> well, he has the private key, but I have it too. not smart :p << omg BingoBoingo WHAT HAVE YOU DUN NAO // yeah, i'm also curious as to what's going on here << OMG Opsec fail [00:01]
mircea_popescu course no institutionals would have bought any anyway, but as a point of principle. [00:01]
rithm what is ether scam [00:02]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: i think the best part about the offer is it's potential to disrupt the live offering << no, the best part is pulling the rug from under the scammer's feet quite unexplectedly. [00:03]
mircea_popescu now it's quite clear they';re recycling some borrowed btc as "investments". [00:03]
ThickAsThieves you say the same thing as me [00:03]
ThickAsThieves just meaner [00:03]
mircea_popescu now that may be :D [00:03]
ThickAsThieves ;) [00:03]
mircea_popescu ironically enough, doge i've been selling. eth, none. [00:04]
rithm [00:04]
assbot Balances All your digital currency balances in one place. [00:04]
rithm looks neat if wasn't a three letter honeypot [00:04]
mircea_popescu ;;refresh [00:04]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: [00:05]
mircea_popescu and it's an audience that hates mp, soooo, fat chance << you know how many of these there've been, over the years ? and how painfully and mean-ly they've been humiliated ? [00:05]
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mircea_popescu startin' all the way to the good ol' boys of glbse and so on. [00:06]
mircea_popescu zee bitcoin bankerz cartel, [00:06]
mircea_popescu good times. [00:06]
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pankkake rithm: you can do watch-only with most clients now [00:06]
rithm i know so i'm not sure what it accomplishes other than intel gathering and noob convenience [00:07]
mircea_popescu [00:07]
assbot BitBet - Republicans win majority of the U.S. Senate :: 1.07 B (71%) on Yes, 0.43 B (29%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 98`238 (100`000 to 1) [00:07]
mircea_popescu srsly ? rep majority ? i tell you i dun see it. [00:07]
pankkake I think you can do it already with too [00:08]
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ThickAsThieves [00:08]
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mircea_popescu a) how the fuck are conservatives going to make electoral gains in populist times and b) who the fuck do the republicans even represent anymore, they've lost the teaparty. [00:08]
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pankkake by not being conservatives, but some random nutjob thing [00:09]
ThickAsThieves they represent sameness [00:09]
ThickAsThieves democrat is change [00:09]
ThickAsThieves change is bad [00:09]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i liked better. [00:09]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the way the us is going, anything's better than sameness. [00:10]
ThickAsThieves i'm speaking for the masses of course [00:10]
ThickAsThieves not myself [00:10]
ThickAsThieves change is dope [00:10]
mircea_popescu after 8 years of "we can do it" and "change nao" i doubt you can find any broad group that's of the oppinion things can continue as they are. [00:10]
mircea_popescu this is the major advantage for the fucktarded socialists : once la revolucion starts it fucks up things so badly people want a revolution. [00:10]
mircea_popescu and so... permanence! [00:10]
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mircea_popescu lol [00:12]
assbot Bitcoin_Error_Log comments on Mircea Popescu offers a short of Etherium coins up to 1 KiloBTC's worth at 5000 per BTC deliverable in 2015 [00:12]
mircea_popescu "i can't imagine xyz" is now an argument. [00:12]
rithm mp have you sullied yourself in this ether scamcoin [00:13]
mircea_popescu how ? [00:13]
rithm obv i'm skimming [00:14]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: Sexy Saffron better not tell reddit she's an mp employee << that's okay, the only thing that's keeping derppit from a collective headexploy is all the shit their collective dumbass doesn't know. [00:14]
mircea_popescu o sorry. "can't imagine". [00:14]
ThickAsThieves lol [00:15]
mircea_popescu pigeons: hey mircea_popescu I havent followed, but i saw you are selling eth foward contract or similar. I wanted to suggest putting something similar on mpex, i think that would do well << i asked, people lol'd. which is why it's in otc. [00:15]
ThickAsThieves true philosophers [00:15]
rithm so you are selling 5000 ether, deliverable in 2015, for 1 BTC now? [00:15]
rithm it's genius [00:15]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i was chuckling at the buttcoin treatment earlier, "let's look at things from the position that popularity matters and then get all aggitated when nothing makes sense". [00:16]
mircea_popescu rithm ty. [00:16]
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pigeons is there a built-in mechanism for these suckers, i mean people to trade their ether before/if the production network ever comes out? [00:16]
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mircea_popescu pigeons afaik, no. [00:17]
mircea_popescu a scam doesn't work very well in the open. [00:17]
ThickAsThieves from what i read, the ETH is in total lockdown til it's released [00:17]
pigeons that's why i was thinking an mpex listing would be nice, people could trade it [00:17]
rithm but it doesn't exist yet to be traded [00:17]
pigeons its aptly named i guess [00:17]
rithm there's not a working implementation is there? [00:17]
rithm like an ethereumd [00:17]
BingoBoingo [00:17]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: if any of them took the trouble to write something interesting (e.g. system analogous to the original btc but of proper, rather than 'power ranger' quality) and resisted the temptation of premine shenanigans, etc. - but no. <<< quite. [00:17]
pigeons i had some esther or something the other day, it wasnt ether but it worked in the same manner [00:17]
ThickAsThieves no, "winter 2014/15" [00:17]
rithm pigeons, yeah perfect name [00:18]
rithm calling it ether almost seems like expert troll [00:18]
pigeons rithm: there is a testnet that executes contracts, but themining alogirthm will change when they decide to make one up [00:18]
mircea_popescu pigeons i grew up with a one lb bottle of liquid ether in my chemistry lab. tru story. [00:18]
pigeons lost of other stuff will change when they get around to making it up as well [00:18]
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ThickAsThieves ethereum ‏@ethereumproject 2m [00:18]
ThickAsThieves The only location to purchase ether is - Any other website, emails, skype, twitter, etc are scams. [00:18]
assbot ethereum [00:18]
ThickAsThieves heh [00:18]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lulz [00:19]
rithm nice pretty site, dancing logo, buy now [00:19]
ThickAsThieves you are scams [00:19]
mircea_popescu scammors calling things scamz nao. [00:19]
mircea_popescu this is like so 2012 all over again. [00:19]
mircea_popescu hey SEC ? where the fuck is your dumb ass baby ? [00:19]
rithm but ethereum has no plans to "integrate" or use the bitcoin blockchain for any type of verification, right? [00:20]
rithm it's a totally new alt-chain implementation [00:20]
mircea_popescu we will definitely have a showdown over all this crap one of these days. and as to why james gibson & his merry scammer friends are stil on the street. [00:20]
rithm do i understand that correctly? [00:20]
benkay Pierre_Rochard:mircea_popescu: permission to republish? << well, no. an article is one thing, but wholesale copying of trilema serves little purpose. put up an adnotated article list if you want, that seems to serve your purpose better, or if not do commentary on the individual articles // think talmud [00:20]
mircea_popescu and to the rest of em. lube up. [00:20]
mircea_popescu here i am, by my lonesome, trying to keep some semblance of discipline, [00:20]
pigeons rithm: correct [00:20]
mircea_popescu while the usg is busy drinking chateau lafitte out of the taxpayer's moneyz. [00:20]
mircea_popescu for shame. [00:21]
benkay benkay: or is that not actually a text file? << hasn't been a texrfile for all of two years. // cult of complexity [00:21]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: mpex.wallstreet << bingo. [00:21]
rithm ...and the reason being the turingincompletedness of bitcoin [00:21]
rithm i don't seeing having the value bitcoin has [00:22]
rithm chisel that in stone in your logs [00:22]
rithm * idon't see it [00:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: no shortage of possible experiments to choose from (e.g. Lamportian 67% theoretical maximum threshold << that's not the good part. the good part is a better chaining methodology. [00:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00079777 = 6.4619 BTC [-] [00:24]
benkay what are the flaws of the current chaining methodology, mircea_popescu ? [00:24]
ThickAsThieves ohnoes coindesk commenter has burned me: "I wish i could see your stupid face in about 10 years when almost every interaction you have with an electronic device relies on a decentralized blockchain.. "we don't need smart contracts" haha are you for real!? " [00:24]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu pigeons i grew up with a one lb bottle of liquid ether in my chemistry lab. tru story. << do I dare ask what you did with said ether? [00:24]
ThickAsThieves mah stupid face! [00:24]
mircea_popescu benkay you read the ? [00:25]
assbot Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [00:25]
ThickAsThieves "I think smart contracts are pretty revolutionary, and once they're commonplace we'll all wonder how we got along without them." this is people responding to me asking wtf will actually use it [00:25]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves does the guy have a name ? [00:25]
ThickAsThieves [00:26]
assbot Ethereum Launches Own 'Ether' Coin, With Millions Already Sold [00:26]
ThickAsThieves the commenter? [00:26]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller it's a major feedstock for a number of organic chemistry reactions. [00:26]
mircea_popescu i also burned some [00:26]
mircea_popescu i didn't actually huff it [00:26]
ThickAsThieves no, he posted as Some R Dumb [00:26]
mircea_popescu but i did put out a cat a number of times. [00:26]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well clearly if "he thinks" and "he can't see" your dumb face he wins the internets. [00:26]
ThickAsThieves "Instead of making a "You guys just don't understand how big this is going to be" comment, why don't you tell us what your plans involve so we get a better idea of what ethereum is? " ~smarter commenter [00:27]
ThickAsThieves response: [00:27]
ThickAsThieves I sincerely apologize. My comment was directed at the user who said that no one would want or need this. I cant get into specifics on what we are working on but here are a few questions that spring into mind. [00:27]
ThickAsThieves Who is going to be the facebook of ethereum? [00:27]
ThickAsThieves Who is going to be the google of ethereum? (well... lets not kid ourselves... probably google on that one) [00:27]
mircea_popescu lmao [00:27]
mircea_popescu so wait, is ths ninjashoguncoin ? [00:27]
ThickAsThieves there's more... [00:27]
ThickAsThieves lol [00:27]
mike_c ;;seen the20year [00:27]
gribble the20year was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 3 hours, 14 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: nubbins`: i sent you my address [00:27]
ThickAsThieves fukn hilarious people [00:28]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves if that's how you call terminal retards. [00:28]
ThickAsThieves this is the first timei'm upvoting things i disagree with [00:28]
ThickAsThieves just too awesome [00:28]
mircea_popescu o which reminds me : funny notice in local quikmart : "esta terminantemente prohibido la venta a menores de 18 anos" [00:29]
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mircea_popescu bitcoinpete: "SEC To Complete Rules Aimed at Reducing Money-Fund Risks: Plan Would Allow Money Funds to Temporarily Block Investors from Withdrawing Money in Times of Stress" << epic. [00:30]
mircea_popescu sec to announce partnership with bitcoin scammers next, to fight terrorism and other stresses. [00:30]
ThickAsThieves Draper will be on Colbert tonight, prepare for derpy bitcoin jokez [00:31]
mircea_popescu mike_c: is going to get fixed ever? or is it just dead. << nah will come bax [00:32]
ThickAsThieves we got yo bitcoinz bitchez! [00:32]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves which one is draper again ? [00:32]
mike_c too late, i changed all my links. it's dead to me :) [00:32]
ThickAsThieves the SR auction weiner [00:32]
mircea_popescu the guy that didn't manage to buy some bitcoins and also had a sextape ? [00:32]
mircea_popescu is he going with nicole richie ? [00:33]
ThickAsThieves only time will tell! [00:33]
mircea_popescu mike_c worx. [00:33]
benkay benkay you read the ? // read it yes, but the context? [00:33]
mircea_popescu lobbes: the problem I have with weird al nowadays is that I don't even know the songs he is parodying anymore << this is because you've stopped fucking teenagers. [00:33]
assbot Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [00:33]
mircea_popescu benkay you were asking how to improve the blockchain. [00:34]
pigeons don't forget the child porn and drug trafficicking to go with the terrorism. oh and file-sharing [00:34]
benkay ah. [00:34]
ThickAsThieves “I give bitcoin 12 to 18 months before its fate will be decided by lawmakers. We don’t have a lot of time to tackle these issues, and if we don’t, bitcoin will be narrowed down to a hobbyist niche and not a true industry.” ~ Perianne Boring [00:34]
mircea_popescu benkay: can't say yet need moar read << pls let the group know. [00:34]
benkay keep reading, boss [00:35]
mircea_popescu ;;rated bitcoingirl [00:35]
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ThickAsThieves “There’s nobody else in DC that cares about bitcoin, bitcoin has a terrible reputation, people are scared to touch it, nobody wants to be involved with it, and a lot of it is a lack of understanding.” [00:35]
mircea_popescu ;;rate bitcoingirl -1 Absolutely unbearably clueless, self promoting dumb broad. [00:35]
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mircea_popescu they are going to be A LOT more scared, i'm getting a "get in touch" program out for politicians. [00:36]
mircea_popescu this scared is nothing. [00:36]
BingoBoingo ;;gettrust assbot bitcoingirl [00:36]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bitcoingirl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Wed Jul 23 17:35:32 2014 [00:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: chaining methodology << sure. and ten other things. [00:37]
mircea_popescu yeah. [00:37]
ThickAsThieves Amagi Metals, Inc ‏@AmagiMetals 5h [00:37]
ThickAsThieves Amagi no longer accepting Dogecoin: … #dogecoin #muchsad #crypto [00:37]
mircea_popescu anyway, i was originally thinking bitcoin-the-prototype needs to run about five years before actual iteration is worth contemplating [00:37]
mircea_popescu that'd be up in about six months. so by all means. [00:37]
benkay hm. [00:38]
benkay cross-chain wallet for alphacoinz was on my personal roadmap [00:38]
thestringpuller #shibelyfe [00:39]
* asciilifeform whispers 'btc in silico' [00:39]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete: $99 and it's yours. delivery estimated in november 2014 << expensive, but it's not actually a bad idea. [00:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, bitcoinpete: just an old idea. as in, hardware you can actually buy. [00:41]
mircea_popescu most good ideas are old [00:41]
mircea_popescu they get older as fucktards chase the mba train of spam. [00:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: before divorcing, i do not know. << why divorce the woman just because she's getting exercise ? [00:43]
mircea_popescu benkay: I WAS JUST SAYING THIS << basically doge opened the way for "mainstream" media shilling. [00:43]
mircea_popescu now all these unemployable fuckwits with business insider blogs and whatnot expect a coupla hundred to tout the next scam. [00:44]
mircea_popescu i guess in a sense this is just the unavoidable effect of their irrelevant impotence. "if you can't do something useful anyway, might as well make a buck doing something pointless" [00:44]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete: pretty sure the irish have below average everything <<< irish chicks have above average to epic freckles. [00:45]
mircea_popescu benkay: keybase wanted your 'encrypted' private keys. << oh such lulz. [00:46]
mircea_popescu Secure connection: fatal error (552) << i guess it's been proven. [00:47]
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assbot white slave bcn [00:49]
mircea_popescu etc. [00:49]
assbot white slave for Black [00:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 801 @ 0.00297861 = 2.3859 BTC [+] {8} [00:54]
mircea_popescu benkay: i don't. it's a phenomenal waste of human capital. << there is no such thing as "waste" of human capital any more han there's waste of carbon. it's an element, whatever it gets used for is just fine. [00:55]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: mircea_popescu could be the largest æthereum holder <<< could is such a majik word. [00:56]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic a bit more marketing in that than i'd be looking for. [00:56]
fluffypony coulda-would-shoulda [00:57]
fluffypony it's sorta like first-biggest-best [00:57]
mircea_popescu anyway, the part where there's 500 ether aethereum ethereum etc is certainly helpful. [00:58]
mircea_popescu one of the reason girls trying to break into porn have to work so hard is that there's so damned many of them [00:59]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: except that Taaki is not a "bitcoin legend" >:( <<< i beg to differ. taaki is a bitcoin legend : [01:00]
assbot Amir Taaki has done, and continues to do, huge disservice to anyone serious involved in Bitcoin. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:00]
mircea_popescu he's legendary stupid. [01:00]
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mircea_popescu << o look what i found [01:05]
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pigeons yeah like i shouldnt already know better than to click one of mircea_popescu's links [01:10]
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assbot Check if your bitcoin private key was leaked [01:13]
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fluffypony lol [01:17]
kakobrekla if balance is greater than 0, it was not. [01:17]
kakobrekla now mp sez but smart hacker will wait for mo monies. [01:18]
kakobrekla and kako sez [01:18]
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mircea_popescu i r not say anything. [01:31]
dub mike_c: no. 1) pick a girl. 2) she picks the date mike_c: 3) she starts planning for 6 months [01:31]
dub truth [01:31]
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mircea_popescu you're all a buncha pussies. [01:32]
mike_c yeah, a REAL man picks his own wedding date :p [01:33]
mircea_popescu a real man weds chuck morris. [01:33]
mike_c chuck norris will now destroy b-a because you got his name wrong. [01:34]
dub she just finalised our venue, twas all I could do to drag it back to 300km away from 10000km [01:36]
mike_c your friends and family thank you for your efforts. [01:37]
mircea_popescu lol r/SA has now established that i am not smart, all my good points are repackaged from someone else. [01:37]
mircea_popescu my sides. i imagine libertards are smart in entirely novel, innovative ways, right ? because such a thing can ever be :D [01:37]
dub wait, something awful has a reddit? [01:37]
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mircea_popescu i am thankful for the internet for this, by the way. before every idiot had a voice, the world was less amusing, and the reasons why the poor must be whipped daily less obvious. [01:38]
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mircea_popescu dub [01:38]
assbot Im crying with joy over here, my toes are curling in untold glee, I have little doubt that I shall live to see this, all of it. : Buttcoin [01:38]
mircea_popescu after they sold to bfl they moved to reddit. [01:38]
mircea_popescu anyway, the person i'm repackaging is christos ballas, which kind-of informs as to the depth of intelligence the core of us libertards has at its disposal : they can dig as deep as about the past coupla months, and that's that. [01:40]
mike_c lol, sometimes they get one right: "Christ almighty. Can you summarize that in like a few thousand words?" [01:40]
mircea_popescu i guess it works fine for most blogs, which really aren't much deeper than that, and definitely for most perianne borings, which... yeah. [01:40]
mircea_popescu mike_c i suspek that's unintentional. [01:40]
mike_c blind squirrel etc. [01:40]
mircea_popescu anyway, i guess my knowing who they are and who they fucked and all the dirt makes this an unequal contest and therefore me racist or somesuch. [01:41]
mircea_popescu "Yeah, certainly not every Bitcoiner is a redpiller. [01:42]
mircea_popescu As far as my observations go, I think there are many idealists, but they are a bit complicit in that these fuckers aren't shouted down or ejected because they are "of the community"." [01:42]
mircea_popescu i mean check out that beauty. "what, mp can eject each and every reddit communitard if he so chooses ?!?! not possibru!!! [01:42]
mircea_popescu because reality is by consensus and power is by headcount!!! LIBERTARDIA!!!!" [01:42]
mircea_popescu i thot they still teach in those social pseudosciences just how informative one's apparent assumptions are. i guess nobody does psychology seriously since the pills huh. [01:43]
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BingoBoingo OMG we better not tell /r/Buttcoin who started linking TLP up in here... [01:50]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i got a lulz out of their scummy apology/explanation as to how they sold the domain to bfl. [01:53]
mircea_popescu typical "whoddunit/not me" infantilism. it was a mistake but we're not really stupid, we did it for the cash but we're not really desperate, [01:53]
mircea_popescu it's like the talking points of the lost generations. they did it "ironically". [01:54]
BingoBoingo It really is some magic, thinking they can talk something to death, but then actually damaging everything by selling out to the worst actor in the space they derped against for so long. [01:55]
mircea_popescu #freenode is terminally fucking braindamaged. a year ago they stopped taking donations because "it was too much effort". since then i've been trying to get them a server up. pretty much zero interest. [01:56]
mircea_popescu there's just no way this shit can survive on the mid term. [01:56]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i suspect the reasoning here is that "bfl is bad for bitcoin" and so therefore selling to them is "bad for bitcoin" and so it's a smart move. [01:56]
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mircea_popescu too stupid to evaluate the compound errors in there. [01:56]
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BingoBoingo All the while they forget that in the past year BFL has went from being bad for Bitcoin to merely being bad for a certain kind of people who want into Bitcoin and probably ought to begin buying pre-order lube [01:58]
mircea_popescu basically, bfl is essentially bad for... them. [02:00]
mircea_popescu it makes all its money out of exploiting the erroneous mindset that derps matter and groups work. [02:00]
mircea_popescu as the old saying goes, a man deserves the life he choses. [02:01]
BingoBoingo I guess if there is one thing to learn from a year and a half of Havelol's history it is that Bitcoin also seems to be killing the veil of corporate protection as a formal construct [02:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund [02:02]
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benkay she just finalised our venue, twas all I could do to drag it back to 300km away from 10000km // sucker - i had mine in the backyard of the house in which i grew up. [02:08]
benkay which just so happens to be six blocks from my current residence. [02:08]
benkay lolk so what did bitcoingirl do to piss you off, mircea_popescu ? [02:10]
dub we're in a backyard too, for the portion that isn't on the beach [02:14]
BingoBoingo benkay: Have you seen what Ms Boring has been writing lately? [02:15]
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benkay no i tuned out a long time ago [02:17]
benkay link me to great lulz plox [02:17]
dub albeit a $1000/night backyard [02:17]
benkay yeah, but it's not the backyard of your childhood and also you're paying for it. [02:18]
mike_c you also pay for it if you don't give her the wedding she wants. [02:19]
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benkay boring and company llc doesn't even register on google, wtf [02:19]
dub there are far too many backyards of my childhood and few of them meet the >10000km away requisite [02:19]
benkay sheeeeeit you give them the wedding? [02:19]
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dub <* [02:19]
benkay what happened to the dowry? [02:19]
BingoBoingo benkay: Basically Ms. Boring forked the foundation taking a stronger stand in favor of "Let's all just surrender to the State more and faster now, k thx" [02:21]
benkay yes but links please, BingoBoingo [02:22]
BingoBoingo [02:22]
assbot Perianne Boring: Regulators Will Decide Bitcoin's Fate Within 18 Months [02:22]
BingoBoingo ^ I dunno what could mistate things worse [02:23]
mircea_popescu benkay just being her usual dumb self. [02:23]
mircea_popescu hanbot wait, what did they say ? [02:23]
benkay gotta love how her face is the lede [02:23]
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mircea_popescu [02:23]
mircea_popescu gif related. [02:23]
benkay intern for the white house? [02:24]
benkay hue hue hue hue hue [02:24]
benkay man [02:24]
benkay the joke there is that nobody saw how dumb of an idea claiming to be a pretty young intern at the white house is [02:24]
mircea_popescu forgeddaboutit. [02:24]
dub whats the op called where they send in fuckable chicks to get ammunition on targets ala assange? [02:24]
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benkay wow you guys actually read coindesk [02:25]
mircea_popescu so my... conventional munitions alarm went off. [02:25]
mircea_popescu turns out... these people are digging an extension to the metro. WITH DYNAMITE. [02:26]
mircea_popescu so argentina. much surprising. all the fucking time. [02:26]
benkay gotta love los portenos [02:26]
mircea_popescu nuts. [02:26]
* benkay is amazed at the amount of dick going into that butt [02:27]
mircea_popescu who the fuck blasts metro tunnels ?! is it like what, 1860 ? [02:27]
benkay can't import boring machines [02:27]
benkay wait there's a topic pun in there [02:27]
benkay topical* [02:27]
benkay boring [02:27]
benkay drilling [02:27]
benkay perianne [02:27]
dub welcome to teh 3rd world [02:27]
benkay nah [02:27]
dub benkay: stopit [02:27]
mircea_popescu dub girl clearly has no stop tit. [02:28]
benkay tit stop [02:29]
benkay [02:29]
assbot Tit Stop Factory - YouTube [02:29]
mircea_popescu people can't fucking enunciate [02:30]
mircea_popescu "listentomesluralltheconsonantsintoaporrigeofmushty" [02:30]
mike_c <+mircea_popescu> who the fuck blasts metro tunnels ?! << broke countries? [02:32]
mircea_popescu i guess. [02:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 264 @ 0.00283392 = 0.7482 BTC [-] [02:33]
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mircea_popescu !up CheapBoy [02:33]
-assbot- You voiced CheapBoy for 30 minutes. [02:33]
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CheapBoy How is Mircea Popescu shorting going? [02:33]
mircea_popescu [02:34]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [02:34]
CheapBoy I don't understand your link. [02:36]
CheapBoy I am interested in betting against you. [02:37]
mircea_popescu so how many you wanna buy ? [02:37]
CheapBoy 15000? [02:37]
mircea_popescu for delivery march 15th ? [02:38]
benkay ;;gettrust CheapBoy [02:38]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user CheapBoy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: never [02:38]
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mircea_popescu benkay ironically, for this deal he doesn't actually need one. he's the long party. [02:39]
mircea_popescu !up nycbtcpros [02:39]
-assbot- You voiced nycbtcpros for 30 minutes. [02:39]
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CheapBoy Delivery march 15th [02:39]
CheapBoy Yes [02:39]
benkay just out of curiousity, how do you plan to verify his identity for delivery come next march? [02:39]
mircea_popescu benkay same address. [02:39]
BigBitz delivery of what ? [02:39]
benkay sign a thing with the addr from which he pays you? [02:40]
CheapBoy My worry is, how is delivery guaranteed? [02:40]
mircea_popescu CheapBoy ok, that'll be 3 btc, with the caveat that if eth is not released or not trading come march 15th you get 1 satoshi back. [02:40]
dub lol [02:40]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust mircea_popescu [02:40]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 154 via 88 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 [02:40]
mircea_popescu thusly. [02:40]
CheapBoy 1 satoshi ouch. [02:40]
CheapBoy What guarantee do the people buying presale ehereum get as of now? [02:41]
benkay !b 1 [02:41]
assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [02:41]
mircea_popescu nothing afaik. [02:41]
CheapBoy That guarantee should be tradable before it is released I hope... [02:41]
mircea_popescu << here's a model contract, from back in 2012. [02:41]
assbot Deci piata financiara, bine ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:41]
mircea_popescu happens to be the first future deal in btc, too. [02:41]
mircea_popescu CheapBoy i have no problem with your assigning your delivery, but to do that you will need to register a gpg signature in the wot. [02:42]
BigBitz delivery of what ? <-- [02:43]
benkay BigBitz: ether. [02:43]
mircea_popescu BigBitz the eth scamcoin. you gotta read teh logs more. [02:43]
CheapBoy Sounds good and serious, what is gpg signature? [02:43]
benkay ;;google gpg [02:43]
gribble The GNU Privacy Guard: ; GNU Privacy Guard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; GPGTools - It's worth protecting what you love: [02:43]
BigBitz Ohhh. Ethereum. lol. [02:43]
BigBitz the pre-premine coin. [02:43]
mircea_popescu BigBitz bingo. [02:44]
benkay ;;google gpg ultimate guide [02:44]
gribble Creating the perfect GPG keypair - Alex Cabal: ; Creating a new GPG key | Ana's blog - ekaia dot org: ; Generating More Secure GPG Keys: A Step-by-Step Guide: [02:44]
dub PGP: Sounds good and serious. [02:44]
mircea_popescu jesus i was looking to say bigtitsbingo for a long time. [02:44]
BigBitz So wait you're giving him, like, what 9 months ? [02:44]
benkay CheapBoy: the alexcabal link is the one. [02:44]
mircea_popescu BigBitz yeah. [02:44]
BigBitz mircea_popescu one day... just one day... I hope to be 5% as rich as you. [02:44]
CheapBoy And how can you guarantee delivery? [02:44]
mircea_popescu dub dun hate on teh noobs. [02:44]
mircea_popescu CheapBoy by saying so. [02:44]
dub I'm not, its a great quote [02:44]
CheapBoy Sounds foolproof. [02:45]
mircea_popescu it is. [02:45]
BigBitz delivery is provable by a wallet? a trading 'site' ? [02:45]
CheapBoy Who here "vouches" for mircea? [02:45]
mircea_popescu jesus i was waiting to answer "it is" to two diff people in one line forever. [02:45]
mike_c CheapBoy: that is what the web of trust is for: [02:45]
assbot Rating Details for User 'mircea_popescu' [02:45]
BigBitz ;;gettrust mircea_popescu [02:45]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user BigBitz to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 14 via 11 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 [02:45]
mircea_popescu CheapBoy if you lok in the gribble response above you see the list of all the 88 people. [02:45]
mircea_popescu pick some you know from there, ask 'em. [02:45]
BigBitz in fairness some of those 88 people are not the most trusted :P [02:45]
mircea_popescu BigBitz obv. [02:45]
BigBitz rg :( [02:46]
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mircea_popescu BigBitz << mandatory reading i say. [02:46]
assbot What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:46]
BigBitz mircea_popescu you should look at my WoT. [02:46]
dub in counter-fairness check out tux' ratings [02:46]
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mircea_popescu lol cunterfairness [02:46]
mircea_popescu BigBitz i know. but it's been upgraded. [02:46]
BigBitz aside from my scammer ratings. my WoT is in good shape. [02:47]
CheapBoy Mircea Thanks for explaining. [02:47]
CheapBoy I am hesitating, it says "scheduled for release winter 2014/2015" on the site. Pretty big risk it's delayed imo. [02:48]
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mike_c indeed. mircea_popescu: what would you charge for 1 year? [02:48]
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mircea_popescu mike_c im not gonna bother with > 9 months. [02:49]
mike_c forget it. my momentary insanity passed. [02:49]
mircea_popescu CheapBoy delayed past march ? [02:49]
CheapBoy Yes delayed past march. [02:49]
mircea_popescu well fine, have it your way. july 25th. [02:49]
mircea_popescu same price. [02:49]
CheapBoy Delaying crowdfunding things is pretty standard at kickstarter [02:49]
benkay kinda the whole point [02:50]
benkay ;;gettrust bitb [02:50]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user bitb: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: never [02:50]
mircea_popescu i have nfi why anyone'd do business with people who announce xmas and then fail to deliver in march, but then again... [02:50]
benkay ;;gettrust BigBitz [02:50]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask BigBitz!~BigBitz@unaffiliated/bigbitz. Trust relationship from user benkay to user BigBitz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Fri Apr 26 11:13:53 2013 [02:50]
benkay i have nfi why anyone'd do business with people who announce xmas and then fail to deliver in march, but then again... // what, you calling asciilifeform a scammer? [02:51]
mircea_popescu benkay you will note nsa didn't sell cardanos. [02:51]
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mircea_popescu mkay, im off to get mthreat drunk. back in a while. [02:53]
benkay mhm. a solid distinction for sure. [02:53]
benkay dammit argentina [02:53]
mircea_popescu CheapBoy best do some reading, lot of ground to cover before jumping into things. [02:53]
CheapBoy Mircea, thanks. [02:53]
CheapBoy Would you buy ethereum for me even though it's not officially released, but tradable? [02:54]
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mike_c what would be trading if it wasn't released? [02:55]
BingoBoingo CheapBoy: You are a brave soul going long on Ether. [02:55]
CheapBoy hehe, coming here I'm getting more scared. [02:56]
BingoBoingo CheapBoy: Nah, we don't bite much. [02:57]
benkay you should never be scared to make a trade. [02:57]
benkay if its a good trade, you'll know. [02:57]
benkay if you're scared, listen to that. [02:57]
pigeons who are these people buying it? i see everyone ssaying the obvious about who knows what a good price is and if the platform will ever materialize, but someone is paying [02:57]
benkay same as it ever was [02:58]
BingoBoingo pigeons: Prolly Vitalik, Aspergzors is an adequate substitute for intelligence, Buterin paying himself [02:58]
benkay the hype cycle was just reeeeeally long. [02:58]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: so far the authentic chinese food I've tasted pretty much lives up to its visual appeal; Yunnan province (where a lot of that episode was filmed) is delicious and very un-weird. [02:58]
midnightmagic but ehh.. propaganda piece for tourism. i'm okay with that [02:59]
BingoBoingo CheapBoy: If you actually want the Ether, mircea_popescu's short if the cheapest offer going [03:00]
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BingoBoingo I just dunno why anyone would want ether that can't soak a rag [03:00]
pigeons yeah it should be able to soak a rag, but dont do it that way you hobo [03:01]
pigeons pressurize for nice clear gas [03:02]
BingoBoingo pigeons: Wait, you're inhaling it? I was just going to use it as a solvent to clean some stuff... [03:03]
pigeons oops [03:03]
mike_c harder to apply to others as gas [03:04]
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benkay who is this nycbtcpros? [03:05]
pigeons ;;seen nycbtcpros [03:05]
gribble I have not seen nycbtcpros. [03:05]
pigeons ;;gpg info nyvbtcpros [03:06]
gribble No such user registered. [03:06]
pigeons ;;gpg info nycbtcpros [03:06]
gribble User 'nycbtcpros', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1HoUw9FVHXxB1Wm9mbetDE1UhgiQfdgFkk, registered on Sat Jun 14 08:04:58 2014, last authed on Sat Jun 14 08:12:00 2014. . Currently not authenticated. [03:06]
pigeons hope he has a bitlicense [03:06]
benkay ;;later tell nycbtcpros where's your bitlicense? [03:07]
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gribble The operation succeeded. [03:07]
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CheapBoy Thanks for not biting guys. [03:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23978 @ 0.00079579 = 19.0815 BTC [-] {2} [03:09]
CheapBoy I'm trying to understand if people will be able to "sell" their ethereum pledge before it is released atm. [03:09]
BingoBoingo CheapBoy: Well I doubt the ethereum people are going to make or allow a market for that since, etherium is supposed to be a market [03:10]
pigeons CheapBoy: i asked that too, was told "no". but try #etherum. actually, i heard they were emailing (!) encrypted wallets (perhaps generated with not-so-random keys via mouse movements!) [03:11]
pigeons so i suppose you could sell the wallet [03:11]
pigeons probably they won't email you the wallet for another few bfl-months, but i hae no actual clue about that [03:12]
mike_c um, selling private keys is not so practical. ask bingo and pankkake :) [03:18]
pigeons well sell it before it's cracked from its not-so-randomness [03:20]
mike_c and pinky-swear to delete your copy [03:20]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Situation has been remedied. Key in question was not sold so much as held by each of us in trust of a higher powah. [03:20]
pigeons or maybe you have a really random mouse movement [03:20]
CheapBoy Thanks pidgeons and bingoboingo. [03:22]
BingoBoingo CheapBoy: Well, have you started looking at setting up GPG yet, since that would be necessary to do the trade? [03:22]
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BingoBoingo CheapBoy: If you set up GPG and register in the WoT I'll lend you a rating so you can self voice. [03:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12896 @ 0.0007949 = 10.251 BTC [-] [03:33]
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copumpkin damn! mpoe below .8 [03:41]
copumpkin all is lost [03:41]
pigeons CheapBoy: ether not usable or transferrable unless ethereum actually comes out one day [03:42]
mike_c it was under 76 before the break. [03:42]
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dub [03:46]
assbot Hi, we are the Ethereum Project Team. Ask us anything! : IAmA [03:46]
CheapBoy +BingoBoingo Thanks, but the links seem to be down [03:46]
CheapBoy [03:46]
assbot Alex Cabal [03:46]
mike_c CheapBoy: you got something odd stuck on the end or that URL. [03:47]
assbot Creating the perfect GPG keypair - Alex Cabal [03:47]
BingoBoingo CheapBoy: Here's a basic link for setting up a workspace for drafting GPG text [03:47]
assbot PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog [03:47]
BingoBoingo The BFL auto shop [03:49]
assbot This Shop Trashed My E30 BMW M3 [03:49]
CheapBoy Cool. The gribble bot wrote that link actually. [03:49]
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BingoBoingo Gribble sometimes fucks links [03:54]
pigeons [03:57]
assbot OpenPGP Best Practices - [03:57]
pigeons [03:58]
assbot Creating a new GPG key | Ana's blog [03:58]
CheapBoy Alrighty I'm getting the GPG running. [03:59]
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CheapBoy But I have to get some sleep, 3am in sweden. [03:59]
CheapBoy Hope someone can voice me next time [03:59]
BingoBoingo CheapBoy: I'll look for you and keep throwing voice at you [04:01]
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BingoBoingo What really fuels Reddit, Professional Wrestling as Trailer Park Shakespeare [04:29]
assbot The Mouth of the WWE « [04:29]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: conventional munitions alarm << you mean, ears ringing? or smelled the unmistakeable smell of trotyl? or actual electric alarm? [04:42]
BingoBoingo I was going to ask, but figured if I had to... [04:45]
* asciilifeform is actually quite familiar with the construction of such alarms, and their shortcomings. [04:46]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo and other us-ians probably know that one shouldn't take an old set of shooting earmuffs to the airport, and why... [04:48]
BingoBoingo lol [04:48]
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* BingoBoingo has never actually been to an aitport [04:50]
BingoBoingo *airport [04:50]
asciilifeform seriously? [04:50]
asciilifeform not once? [04:51]
BingoBoingo Havent'd had occasion to yet. Imagine my first airport experience will prolly happen in Mexico [04:51]
pigeons as a kid you didnt go run around them back when it was possible? [04:52]
pigeons or a teenager bring a girl to sit on the car and "watch the planes" [04:52]
* asciilifeform not exactly a pith-helmeted hero of world travel; went to an airport for the first time in ~22 yrs. to visit mircea_popescu and other phriends back in april. [04:52]
BingoBoingo Well, I've been to field's where ultralights operated [04:53]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you mean small airplanes in general? or specifically 'ultralights' ? [04:53]
pigeons anyway, you're not missing anything now, everyone's in a hurry and scared [04:53]
BingoBoingo pigeons: As a teen there were closer places to take girls to "watch the nothing" [04:53]
asciilifeform because, if i recall, 'ultralights' (IANAL - but if i recall, defined as ~100kg and below) are actually unregulated, and can be flown anywhere in usa, by anyone [04:54]
pigeons yes that's still the case [04:54]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Specifically ultralight. Driven past airports for slightly bigger planes. [04:54]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: A thing that has it's big national get together locally is "powered parachutes" [04:55]
asciilifeform paraglider? [04:55]
pigeons i want a jetpack [04:55]
danielpbarron does anyone know who the owner of the #bitcoin- group is? [04:55]
asciilifeform jetpack << as in, the one flying machine that is guaranteed to kill you if the engine cuts out? [04:56]
pigeons oh dont ruin my fun with reality [04:56]
pigeons itll be powered by ETH so it wont cut off [04:57]
asciilifeform lol [04:57]
* asciilifeform old enough to remember when technical magazines had ads in the back for 'build your own helicopter from tractor!' [04:57]
pigeons ETH is not a security and this is not an attempt to solicit investments from unqualified investors. its a fuel. [04:57]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: We get those too, but like seriously a powered parachute [04:57]
BingoBoingo pigeons: Only a fuel if you like engine knock [04:58]
* BingoBoingo remembers at boyscout camp one of the older scouts spaying ether into the campfire to discourage us young'uns from spraying pug spray into the fire [04:59]
BingoBoingo *bug spray [04:59]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ether << standard equipment in boyscout kit? [04:59]
pigeons yeah i remember the scout leaders telling us emphatically not to smoke the local funky weed [04:59]
asciilifeform can one even buy ether in usa outside of a terrorist catalogue? [05:00]
pigeons so of course it had the opposite effect [05:00]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well I was ~6th grade at the time and age ranged up to High School degenerates in the group [05:00]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Available in "engine starting fluid" [05:00]
pigeons or if you have a buddy who works in a chemistry lab [05:01]
pigeons they make real good friends [05:02]
BingoBoingo The sprayer's family had ~8 or 9 muscle cars in various states on non-function in their yard at the time. [05:02]
BingoBoingo pigeons: If you have a friend in the chemistry lab there are more interesting things to consider than ether [05:03]
BingoBoingo Though some amount of ether may be useful as a solvent... TO acieve other things... [05:03]
pigeons yes of course. by might as well get the ether there too [05:05]
BingoBoingo And of course the net result of the spritz of ether into the campfire was panic for ~1.5 miles in any direction [05:06]
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decimation idiots in the midwest smoke jimson weed [05:10]
asciilifeform decimation: the 'zombie cucumber' ? [05:10]
decimation [05:10]
assbot Datura stramonium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [05:10]
decimation indeed, I always called it jimson weed. nasty stuff, grows up 6 ft tall in a few months [05:11]
BingoBoingo decimation: In large parts of the forested midwest cannabis, albeit of poor quality has nativized itself [05:12]
decimation I thought it was always native [05:13]
BingoBoingo [05:14]
assbot Boozy Bear Breaks Into Florida Porch in Search of Beer and Pia Colada [05:14]
BingoBoingo decimation: Well, these are hard problems to pin down in the way that some people advance certain species of carp as invasive, when here they are all invasive. [05:15]
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decimation it's racis to call carp invasive [05:16]
BingoBoingo Carp are like retarded midget whales, fucking filter feeders who readily inbreed (see goldfish) [05:17]
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decimation [05:19]
assbot Liberals passed a bill to change this fish’s name because it is “hurtful” and “offensive” | Young Conservatives [05:19]
BingoBoingo People keep forgetting Potassium Chloride was the lethal component of lethal injection cocktails [05:20]
assbot Joseph Rudolph Wood execution in Arizona delayed for appeal - CBS News [05:20]
BingoBoingo decimation: In the Americas European carp are invasive too [05:20]
BingoBoingo Fucking water pigeons is what they all are really [05:21]
decimation lol in the the stereotypical black person likes carp, apparently in the uk the stereotypical eastern european likes carp: [05:21]
assbot 'No Eastern Europeans' sign placed at carp fishing lake by angry landowner who claims they have stolen his fish | Mail Online [05:21]
BingoBoingo Wait, carp are black people food now? I thought it was Wasps that first plagued this continent with them. [05:23]
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decimation [05:24]
assbot Do blacks really like fried chicken and carp or is that just a stereotype? [05:24]
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decimation everyone knows that eastern europeans are going to cheat and steal the carp from your lake because they were raised as communists: [05:28]
assbot Economics and ethics: Lying commies | The Economist [05:28]
BingoBoingo Chicken is old hand but carp is a new one for me. I might have suspected catfish as a stereotype, because like fried chicken everyone loves fried catfish. Carp though have so many pin bones in their filets. Honestly I find Gar a better use of my fishing time than carp. [05:29]
* asciilifeform eastern europeans are going to cheat and steal the carp from your lake << actually did this. conformed to stereotype. [05:30]
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decimation yeah actually that's a neat experiment [05:31]
decimation it would be fun to try on your friends [05:32]
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BingoBoingo Perks of living near a Hillbilly gathering point [05:48]
decimation do folks here have a method of scraping complex webpages like banks for .pdf statements? [05:52]
decimation web 2.0 is so poorly designed that this barely exists, instead of being a first class featue [05:52]
penguirker New blog post: [05:56]
decimation I've tried beautiful soup, it sucked ass. I tried splinter, it sucked ass. refuse to touch phantomjs. [05:56]
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Rassah Hah! Bitcoin Pete's article: "Vitalik Buterin, he of "autism is the same as intelligence" fame" [06:22]
Rassah I wonder if Bitcoin Pete has met an inteligent person in his life [06:24]
Rassah iRL [06:24]
BingoBoingo Well, pete's a jew and there are a lot of smart members of the tribe [06:25]
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Rassah My tribe consists of Tsiolkovsky and Tozoni, so I've been surrounded by extremely intimidating levels of inteligence... [06:27]
Rassah There aren't a lot of smart people in bitcoinland... I have a feeling Bitcoin Pete isn't one either, but is regurgitating things other smart people are saying in his blogs. A beneficial service I guess [06:28]
TheNewDeal lol [06:29]
TheNewDeal he bought a nice bitcoin bet from me [06:29]
BingoBoingo Well, if pete isn't smart then he's been incredibly lucky. [06:29]
Rassah That statement of his tells me he either has never met Vitalik in person, or doesn't know what an inteligent person is like [06:30]
Rassah TheNewDeal: Bitcoin bet? [06:30]
TheNewDeal he sent me .1 btc, I sold him a position in the bastille day bet [06:31]
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Rassah p.s. I'm not saying their etherium deal is a good one. I don't think investing in ether can in any way give a better return than investing in bitcoin... I don't think vitalik is much of a finance guy, either, so I'm not sure if this "ipo" ca be blamed on him [06:33]
BingoBoingo Well, if he isn't much of a finance guy... Shouldn't he be outsourcing the expertise? [06:34]
Rassah I thought he was? Etherium is run by a large group of people, including finance guys [06:34]
Rassah I think... [06:35]
BingoBoingo I dunno much other than the picked the worst name for their tokens... [06:35]
BingoBoingo Ether is just going to feed the flames about Rapey cryptocoiners [06:36]
Rassah rapey? [06:36]
BingoBoingo Prolly worse than Doge'y style did... [06:36]
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Rassah Eh, Etherium at least has an application. Doge was just a self-aware joke [06:37]
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Rassah Also, as is most important in any crptocurrency (even moreso than its "features") Etherium has a team of good developers with a specific goals, who want to work to develop it no matter the price. Doge (and arguably most others, possibly incluing Litecoin) does not. [06:39]
BingoBoingo Pascal had an application... Busses have an application... Pretty sure Doge had an application even if it wasn't a pretty one. [06:39]
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decimation hammers & tulips have an application - neither are good canidates for money [06:39]
BingoBoingo decimation: I <3 tack hammers [06:40]
Rassah My rule #1 for investing is invest in the team, not the idea. Awesome idea with morons behind it will go nowhere. For Altcoins, an awesome idea with a single developer behind it will crash and busn as soon as that developer gets bored and goes to do something else [06:40]
Rassah *busn = burn [06:40]
Rassah decimation: why do you think Etherium is a candidate for money??? [06:41]
BingoBoingo Nah, you just need to pick altcoins with better jokes like Altcoin... [06:41]
decimation umm, people are trading money for it, with the expectation of spending on stuff in the future? [06:41]
BingoBoingo My current beef with Etherium is that despite all of their protests they are selling equity in a something. [06:41]
Rassah decimation: Airline companies are spending money on jet fluel futures, with expectation of using it in the future. Doesn't mean jet fuel is money [06:42]
BingoBoingo Jet fuel actually makes great money. [06:42]
Rassah BingoBoingo: Protests? When I alked to them, they wanted to sell equity in it, but couldn't due to regulatory crap [06:43]
BingoBoingo Rassah: But what do the do? They de facto sell equity. [06:43]
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Rassah I'm starting to suspect the things they talk about in private do not match the spin they put out in public... [06:43]
BingoBoingo Much like BFL sold equity in the company. [06:43]
Rassah BingoBoingo: but they wanted to sell equity... (Etherium) [06:44]
Rassah and now they are... so.... [06:44]
BingoBoingo This "pre-order" "pre-sale" crap constitutes a sale of equity. Period. [06:44]
Rassah yes. Like they hoped and planned to do [06:44]
Rassah at least in private... [06:44]
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BingoBoingo If you don't have anything to deliver and you sell "whatevers" the "whatevers" you bought constitute equity in the concern [06:45]
BingoBoingo Among the other things Sonny V could go back to jail for equities fraud is a leading candidate. [06:45]
Rassah In summary, they had an idea they thought was awesome, they wanted to spend a year working on this awesome idea of theirs, without having to worry about jobs or income, so they marketed their idea to bitcoiners who like dumping money into altcoins... Sounds like they weren't dumb at all about this :) [06:46]
Rassah Though not sure about the ethics of this... [06:47]
decimation the label "money" isn't relevant - jet fuel is eminently salable, whereas the salability of ethereum is extremely dubious - and that's the property I was interested in specifying with the word "money" [06:47]
BingoBoingo Well, their biggest concern should be locating themselves in friendly jurisdictions that don't extradite. [06:47]
TheNewDeal so true [06:47]
Rassah decimation: What do you think about Namecoin? [06:47]
decimation it's not bitcoin [06:48]
BingoBoingo Namecoin is jet fuel sort of great, splendid utility, but externalities neuter it as a value. [06:48]
BingoBoingo The merged mining that saved namecoin now cripples it. [06:48]
TheNewDeal why so? [06:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 533 @ 0.00293008 = 1.5617 BTC [+] {6} [06:49]
Rassah decimation: K... Point is, regardless of what ether is ultimately worth, if they do come up with a system that's as usable as they hope it will be, you could think of ether is jet fuel needed to run it. It won't be money, and, privately, the ether guys don't seem to want etherium to be money either. Just coins you plunk into the system to keep it rnning [06:49]
Rassah BingoBoingo: I'm interested too. How so? [06:50]
BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Because what do the Big BTC pools that merge namecoin do? Almost uniformly they dump it. Now... there's enough NMC out there that a sufficiently well monetized party could stabilize the market, but doing so would be expensive and bloody [06:50]
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TheNewDeal seems relatively stable as of late? [06:50]
BingoBoingo Rassah: Being a plus that can be mined on top of BTC with little opportunity cost is a handicap. [06:51]
Rassah Why do you need to stabilize Namecoin? It's not money :/ [06:51]
TheNewDeal seems like a good distribution model [06:51]
Rassah If the demand for .bit domain names, addresses, and identities goes up, demand for namecoin will go up. Right now, it just says that no one realy uses .bit [06:52]
BingoBoingo ^ Rassah Without stability .bit just lacks appeal. [06:52]
Rassah BingoBoingo: My .bit domains are perfectly stable and functional [06:53]
BingoBoingo Then there's the tendency of NMC miners to reject tx's because it's just their free bonus coin with purchase of BTC mining [06:53]
Rassah I don't keep NMC as mone, stre of value, or a transaction mechanism. I keep it as "a cost to register and renew a domain name" [06:53]
TheNewDeal don't btc miners do that too? [06:53]
Rassah *stre = store [06:53]
BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Few BTC miners find mining empty blocks an economically optimal choice. [06:54]
BingoBoingo Anymore [06:54]
Rassah Look at NMC as a fluctuating cost at a domain registry, not as an alt coin. [06:54]
TheNewDeal well I didn't say empty. You said reject tx's [06:54]
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BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Rejected tx's happen on a scale. [06:54]
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Rassah Any of you guys ever go to conferences? [06:57]
TheNewDeal timiosara!?! [06:57]
TheNewDeal somebody just went to that bitcoin hippy festival called porcine or something [06:58]
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BingoBoingo So, last friday I'm at the bar and my friends point out a dude with a Bitcoin T-shirt. Suggest I start a conversation. I point out that in the best case they are a stranger, and in the worst case they are some petty scammer I blogged about. [06:59]
BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: That was danielpbarron [07:00]
TheNewDeal ahh [07:00]
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danielpbarron TheNewDeal, ya, I did [07:00]
TheNewDeal hahaha [07:01]
BingoBoingo I tend to treat people in Bitcoin T-shirts the same way drug dealers treat people wearing I <3 crack T-shirts [07:01]
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Rassah Potential customers? [07:02]
Rassah Or undercover cops [07:02]
BingoBoingo Well, dude and his friends obviously smelled of drugs [07:04]
TheNewDeal i would hope so [07:04]
TheNewDeal the skunky kind? [07:05]
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BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Smelled like the more solid, you're going to get addicted kind [07:09]
BingoBoingo !up Duffer1 [07:09]
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BingoBoingo I wonder if the 5-0 has an eu de meth the can spray on to be more convincing undercover [07:10]
TheNewDeal lol [07:10]
Duffer1 i'm so proud of my cable management [07:12]
Duffer1 i'll post pics later [07:12]
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dub BingoBoingo: not afaik, they go for the real deal [07:19]
dub got a buddy who was basically high 24/7 on the job [07:22]
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Rassah dub: Lots of suiters working at Disney World are like that [07:36]
BingoBoingo !up HANDSofSTEEL [07:36]
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BingoBoingo Welcome HANDSofSTEEL and sqsqsqsqsq [07:36]
HANDSofSTEEL thanks for the warm welcome [07:37]
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dub suiters? [07:38]
Rassah I used to work at Disney World. People who wore suits often smoked weed, dropped acid, etc, because they could always blame the consequences on head exhaustion [07:38]
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Rassah sorry, term is "fur suit," but I guess technicaly costumes [07:38]
dub Lawyers are teh biggest pottheads in my experience [07:39]
Rassah old habits die hard XD [07:39]
dub but we were talking about cops [07:39]
Rassah I thought lawyers did coke, no pot? [07:39]
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BingoBoingo HANDSofSTEEL: Welcome here [07:40]
dub I've had pleny of jobs where weed was standard issue equipment [07:40]
HANDSofSTEEL ;) [07:41]
BingoBoingo HANDSofSTEEL: What brings you to these parts? [07:44]
HANDSofSTEEL was reading up on ethereum actually is what brought me here [07:45]
HANDSofSTEEL wanted to see what the overall vibe was like but i see there are logs online to look at [07:45]
kakobrekla !s ethereum [07:45]
assbot 117 results for 'ethereum' : [07:45]
kakobrekla enjoy. [07:45]
BingoBoingo HANDSofSTEEL: Yeah, the log are here and as kakobrekla Has blessed you with, search [07:46]
HANDSofSTEEL =) [07:46]
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kakobrekla i guess it would be fair to note that todays mentions are not parsed in search yet. [07:48]
BingoBoingo HANDSofSTEEL: If you really want to go long on ethereum, mircea_popescu wants to go short. I'd advise reading up on ethereum criticism before doing anything rash though. [07:48]
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Duffer1 HANDSofSTEEL [07:48]
assbot A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum’s Genesis Sale Offers | When Bitcoin Met Pete [07:48]
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HANDSofSTEEL thats what brought me here [07:48]
HANDSofSTEEL nice find [07:48]
dub Rassah: sorry, yes, lawyers == anything goes [07:48]
Duffer1 etherum isn't going to end well [07:49]
HANDSofSTEEL what i wonder is if it will start well [07:50]
dub I expect that it will, at least, not start well [07:50]
HANDSofSTEEL lol [07:50]
Duffer1 start well for who is the question [07:50]
HANDSofSTEEL good point [07:50]
HANDSofSTEEL might be good to get on both sides [07:50]
Duffer1 haven't they already received several thousand perfectly healthy btc? [07:50]
HANDSofSTEEL the less the better [07:50]
sqsqsqsqsq allegedly [07:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [-] [07:51]
HANDSofSTEEL well its catch 22, the more on initial, the worse the entry price is, but there is increased interest [07:51]
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HANDSofSTEEL if for some reason they stop selling them now [07:52]
HANDSofSTEEL then popularity explodes after offering but before genesis [07:52]
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HANDSofSTEEL then that will be a good start for early investors [07:52]
sqsqsqsqsq you like it, the pump and dump? [07:53]
HANDSofSTEEL i actually think the technology is awesome is what piques my interest [07:53]
HANDSofSTEEL but yes there are alterior motives [07:54]
mircea_popescu ohai [07:55]
mircea_popescu it's usually spelled "ulterior" [07:55]
Duffer1 front [07:55]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [07:55]
Duffer1 back [07:55]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [07:55]
mircea_popescu Duffer1 this s not nearly nsfw enough for here [07:56]
asciilifeform Duffer1: what is remarkable in these photos ? [07:56]
Duffer1 the cable management! [07:56]
Duffer1 pff haters :( [07:56]
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HANDSofSTEEL thanks for the correction [07:59]
cazalla Duffer1, i know that feel, ocd cable management [07:59]
Duffer1 ya feels good having it all sorted [08:00]
BingoBoingo HANDSofSTEEL: If you want to take both sides, BitBet is probably the best tool for that [08:01]
cazalla he'll be taking it in the ass, that's about it [08:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.133 = 0.665 BTC [+] [08:04]
HANDSofSTEEL bitbet is a cool site [08:05]
mircea_popescu copumpkin: damn! mpoe below .8 << im pretty sure it was her eb4 [08:06]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: [08:07]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu: conventional munitions alarm << you mean, ears ringing? or smelled the unmistakeable smell of trotyl? or actual electric alarm? << no there;s an actual alarm. [08:07]
mircea_popescu tnt/trotyl/dynamite/etc have a very specific signatur [08:08]
Rassah By the way, does anyone have a better (lolsier) reason for why bitcoin will never work than "Bitcoin is deflationary, and will keep going up in price as people hoard it, until it becomes wortless?" [08:08]
mircea_popescu Rassah bitcoin will work. [08:08]
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Rassah mircea_popescu: ??? I mean stupider than the claim I said [08:10]
nubbins` bitcoin is deflationary? [08:10]
Rassah That's the most entertainingly dumb thing I have heard. I wonder if anyone else has any others [08:10]
mircea_popescu derpflartionary amirite [08:10]
Rassah mircea_popescu: Wait, why are you telling me that bitcoin will work?.......... [08:10]
mircea_popescu cuz you asked :D [08:11]
dub that aint cable management [08:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if your alarm picks up TATP, sell it to the americans, they'll cream their pants [08:11]
mircea_popescu btw, let the permanent rtecord reflect that i am less drunken than mthreat [08:11]
mircea_popescu i can type [08:11]
mthreat false [08:11]
mthreat ok gnite [08:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's shockwave based [08:12]
mthreat rtecord << [08:12]
mircea_popescu mthreat you gettting blown too ? [08:12]
BingoBoingo Huh, I'm only running a .21 according to this machine [08:12]
asciilifeform lol! [08:12]
Duffer1 dub it's as far as i was willing to go, not about to rebraid each wire lol [08:12]
Rassah mircea_popescu: It sounded like you doubted my faith in bitcoin. Frankly I am offended. The statement I made was lolzy and derpy beause it is essentially saying that bitcoin will become so valuable that it will be valueless, which is a logical contradiction, and yet I have heard that statement countless times over the years [08:12]
Adohgg aegis agamemnon23 AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij artifexd asciilifeform assbot atcbot Azelphur [08:13]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform lulz all you want! [08:13]
mircea_popescu Rassah lol simmer. [08:13]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: shockwave << what's the use if the charge is already set off and the crater smoking ? [08:13]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know they missed. [08:13]
asciilifeform 'q: what to do if a shell lands in your trench? a: jump twenty meters and scatter yourself around!' - ww1, british. [08:14]
* dub fails to quickly find pics of loomed 7*48 port fibre blades and gives up [08:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know making a hit is not as trivial as it sounds. [08:15]
mircea_popescu decimation: I thought it was always native << you were right, it was. [08:16]
* asciilifeform is familiar with history, where the briefcase is always behind one cement column too far, the mine is always three cars away, etc. [08:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform sad fact of life. [08:17]
* asciilifeform still didn't think this required electronics. if you're in range, ear/nose ought to work [08:17]
asciilifeform although i can think of one case [08:18]
mircea_popescu decimation: everyone knows that eastern europeans are going to cheat and steal the carp << i can attest, carp is huge in eeu [08:18]
mircea_popescu and in romanian, it's called crap [08:18]
asciilifeform (dr. evil plants mine on street xxx, you left xxx ahead of schedule, mine blows. locals admit nothing, say 'gas leak.' wave velocity sensor on your desk tells truth.) [08:19]
dub i've a perverse need to test newphones waterproofyness [08:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform generally such detectors are valuable to embarass. [08:20]
asciilifeform incidentally, for a few years now one can buy similar apparatus for triangulating small arms fire. you can actually see these permanently installed in certain u.s. cities. [08:20]
mircea_popescu decimation: web 2.0 is so poorly designed that this barely exists, instead of being a first class featue << muff said. [08:21]
mircea_popescu Rassah: I thought he was? Etherium is run by a large group of people, including finance guys << none of which in the wot ? catperson, puhlease. [08:23]
Rassah mircea_popescu: Most people I know are not in the wot. Sorry, but there is a whole separate "wot" out there that's not quite as... digital... [08:24]
mircea_popescu of people that will either fail or be raped or both., [08:24]
mircea_popescu not in the wot = no good. period. [08:24]
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mircea_popescu think of it as "not being in the communist party" in moscow cca 1952. [08:26]
mircea_popescu you ARE goign to siberia. on foot. [08:26]
mircea_popescu to dig ditches. [08:27]
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Rassah like my great grandmother and many other relatives? [08:27]
mircea_popescu sure. [08:28]
Rassah The other "wot" is people who actually know each other in person, and can vouch for each other. It's WOT, witout a digital record [08:28]
mircea_popescu you're on the thin ice of presumption. what makes you think people on the wot don';t kn ow each other in person ? [08:29]
Rassah and it's just as reliable (see pirate@40) whereby some people can be nice and known and trusted, and turn out to be total douchebags [08:29]
Rassah There are a lot of people in wot that have never met in person [08:29]
mircea_popescu perhaps you'd be well served by reading the discussion on the topic. the wot dun work as you may imagine it does. [08:29]
mircea_popescu but anyway, time for me to get my toes suckled. tomorro. [08:30]
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punkman asciilifeform: finally read anathem, wasn't such a backbreaker. maybe the big scrolling html made it go down easier than having to turn 900 pages by hand [20:19]
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mircea_popescu punkman this is a fact. [20:19]
asciilifeform punkman: that's more or less the only fictional world i'd not mind moving to. [20:19]
punkman now this is a backbreaker [20:20]
assbot Cartesiam Meditations : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive [20:20]
fats_cd03 anyone know where i can find a pdf of the 67-77 BRK letters? [20:20]
fats_cd03 a cursory search didn't reveal anything [20:21]
punkman Stephenson says Husserl's writings are the hardest stuff he's read [20:21]
mike_c you could spring for the $3 [20:21]
assbot Berkshire Hathaway Letters to Shareholders, 2012: Warren Buffett, Max Olson: 9781595910776: Books [20:22]
mircea_popescu fats_cd03 [20:22]
mircea_popescu it's html [20:22]
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ThickAsThieves Dell offering 10% off with bitcoin [20:24]
fats_cd03 ofn [20:24]
mircea_popescu ;;ud ofn [20:25]
gribble | 2. ofn. OFN means, "Old Fucking News" meaning, GET WITH THE FUCKING TIMES! "Hhahaha, did you see t his totally l33t flash?" "OFN Loser by like a year.". [20:25]
ThickAsThieves alienware only [20:25]
ThickAsThieves sry! [20:25]
fats_cd03 alienware sells painted pigs if i've ever seen one [20:25]
ThickAsThieves never owned one but they sure are ugly [20:26]
mircea_popescu << also 10% off for btc. [20:26]
ThickAsThieves down [20:27]
fluffypony [20:27]
fluffypony "It's just you. is up." [20:27]
assbot Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up? [20:27]
ThickAsThieves just hangs for me [20:28]
ThickAsThieves loads title tho [20:28]
ThickAsThieves needs more power! [20:28]
ThickAsThieves It's not just you! looks down from here. [20:28]
mircea_popescu canada ran out of webhosting gerbils ? [20:28]
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ThickAsThieves fluffyscammer [20:29]
fats_cd03 robbed [20:29]
fats_cd03 [20:29]
assbot Pharrell Williams - Come Get It Bae - YouTube [20:29]
ThickAsThieves !s coinsetter [20:32]
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assbot NYC Bitcoin Exchange Coinsetter Launches Out of Beta WithInstitutional and Consumer Trading - MarketWatch [20:32]
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ThickAsThieves "President Barack Obama plans to go on the offensive later Thursday against companies that use cross-border mergers to avoid U.S. taxes, accusing them of essentially renouncing their American citizenship to shield profits. " [20:33]
ThickAsThieves funny how that works [20:34]
mike_c ;;isitdown [20:34]
gribble is down [20:34]
fluffypony lol [20:35]
fats_cd03 huhuhu [20:35]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: it reported as up when I visited it, hate the game not the player [20:36]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves "we made the country suck how dare you leave now" is how it works [20:56]
fluffypony don't worry guys [20:57]
fluffypony Amir has this [20:57]
fluffypony [20:57]
assbot Circle has still not responded to Peter Todd about whether they are implementing censorship or surveillance technology : Bitcoin [20:57]
mircea_popescu what's circle again ? [20:57]
mircea_popescu o wait, one of the shits im selling short and nobody's buying [20:58]
mircea_popescu much like eth. [20:58]
pankkake why would anyone reply to peter todd? [20:58]
fluffypony "It's a shame because you make great points, but you express them in a manner that is all over the place bordering on incoherent. Not to mention, you unintentionally come off as a bully calling people fascists, etc, and criticizing people in such vitriolic ways just because their views don't match your own perfectly. To be honest, I agree with you, but I can't imagine you're doing anything but preaching to your own choir by expressing your [20:59]
fluffypony ideas in this manner. Try to just present the facts without all of the colorful nonsense." [20:59]
fluffypony great reply [20:59]
mircea_popescu pankkake i kinda like todd. or used to anyway [20:59]
mircea_popescu fluffypony sounds to me like someone just got told "you can't be mp, stop trying" [21:00]
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mircea_popescu !up Mantrid [21:15]
-assbot- You voiced Mantrid for 30 minutes. [21:15]
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mircea_popescu yes. [21:15]
ThickAsThieves “I promise you even before this speech is over I’ll be attacked as a hater or a bigot or someone who is anti-gay,” Rubio said. “This intolerance in the name of tolerance is hypocrisy. Support for the definition of marriage as one man and one woman is not anti-gay, it is pro-traditional marriage.” [21:15]
ThickAsThieves so meta [21:16]
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chetty ThickAsThieves, being 'pro' anything is so last century [21:17]
mircea_popescu why;s the guy promise me shit other people'd do. [21:17]
ThickAsThieves because he paid to have people attack him beforehand [21:17]
ThickAsThieves do you even marketeer? [21:18]
mircea_popescu lmao that meta ?! [21:18]
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ThickAsThieves lol [21:18]
mircea_popescu << is this a hs ? [21:19]
ThickAsThieves lol no [21:19]
ThickAsThieves it's stripper locker room [21:19]
mircea_popescu aok. [21:19]
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chetty [21:33]
assbot Woman in Labor Unable to Cross Street to Hospital Because of Obama Motorcade | NBC Southern California [21:33]
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mike_c tmq often rants about gov't officials at even much lower levels with their ridiculous tax-payer funded security details fouling up things for everyone else with their special traffic treatment. [21:35]
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chetty well you just can't let kids see the emperors new clothes [21:36]
mircea_popescu i don't get this whole "security detail" bullshit for politicians and bureaucrats. [21:37]
mircea_popescu if anyone can be bothered to shoot them, they should be able to [21:37]
mircea_popescu not like there's any sort of talent pool involved, or like they'd ever run out. [21:37]
mircea_popescu "omg ew this is totally different than all the things going into other things i've seen today!" << lol [21:38]
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mike_c i lol'd at this yesterday. not that they are over-reacting:!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/front2-0723.jpg?enlarged [21:38]
mircea_popescu i dun get it. [21:41]
mod6 is the domain finished? I've updated the key in my script, just wondering if I should s/| [21:41]
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mike_c mod6: [21:42]
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mircea_popescu mod6 ideally you should seed from proxybot. if not you can hardwire whichever active domain you like. [21:42]
mircea_popescu .co will be coming online later too [21:42]
mod6 oh, ok. in that case, I'll probably just leave it as is. unless its like, weeks or something. [21:42]
mod6 thakns mircea_popescu [21:42]
mod6 & mike_c [21:42]
gribble Error: "mike_c" is not a valid command. [21:42]
mike_c what is proxybot? [21:42]
mircea_popescu $proxies [21:43]
empyex mircea_popescu: Proxies: MPEx-Status: 1158 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 [21:43]
mod6 ok :] [21:43]
jurov mircea_popescu when will be the the other DERPs offered? [21:44]
jurov or you wait for someone to bid? [21:45]
mircea_popescu jurov soon (tm). but meanwhile anyone can bid, sure. [21:45]
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mircea_popescu ;;seen moiety [21:54]
gribble moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 10 hours, 15 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: hi naphex, wb, hope you had a great holiday :] [21:54]
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mircea_popescu ;;isitdown [21:58]
gribble is down [21:58]
mircea_popescu fuck. [21:59]
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adrrr_ mircea_popescu: why do you talk in the third person? [22:05]
mircea_popescu adrrr_ specifically ? [22:06]
adrrr_ in general [22:06]
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mircea_popescu but like where [22:06]
adrrr_ like here [22:06]
mircea_popescu how do i talk in the 3rd person ? [22:06]
adrrr_ How do you do? lol I don't know [22:07]
adrrr_ just why [22:07]
mircea_popescu this is going well. can you point to such an instance ? [22:07]
mike_c mike_c thinks you aren't making any sense. [22:08]
mircea_popescu !s i [22:08]
adrrr_ no. you have examples [22:08]
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mircea_popescu i bet you a third are mIne. [22:08]
mike_c ;;ident adrrr_ [22:09]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'adrrr_', with hostmask 'adrrr_!', is identified as user 'adrrr', with GPG key id DDE46066D54B5198, key fingerprint 0F56A8FD02C59E657AB3C3DDDDE46066D54B5198, and bitcoin address None [22:09]
adrrr_ you divert the issue [22:09]
mike_c another confused frenchman. [22:09]
* chetty like this adrrr_ [22:09]
adrrr_ lol just askin [22:09]
mircea_popescu I divert the issue ? what issue! [22:09]
adrrr_ the query sorry [22:10]
adrrr_ you don't answer to [22:10]
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mircea_popescu well cause it ain't making any sense. why do you chew the scenery ? [22:10]
* jurov doesn't always talk in 3rd person. but when he does, he uses /me [22:10]
* chetty yeah jurov [22:11]
* mircea_popescu 's not been doing that recently. [22:11]
mike_c adrrr_: you are bringing up a sore subject. we try not to discuss his tendency to talk in 3rd person. [22:11]
adrrr_ just wanted to know [22:11]
adrrr_ ok [22:11]
mircea_popescu x.x [22:11]
mircea_popescu ;;google seinfeld "but i don't wanna be a pirate" [22:12]
gribble "Seinfeld" The Puffy Shirt (TV Episode 1993) - IMDb: ; Seinfeld Scripts - The Puffy Shirt: ; I don't wanna be a pirate - YouTube: [22:12]
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benkay decimation: http-kit and enlive are what i use [22:39]
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benkay HANDSofSTEEL: If you really want to go long on ethereum, mircea_popescu wants to go short. I'd advise reading up on ethereum criticism before doing anything rash though. // it's magically also a bet that nothing'll be around in 9/12 mos. [22:42]
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mircea_popescu !up mutate_ [22:55]
-assbot- You voiced mutate_ for 30 minutes. [22:55]
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mutate_ Thank you. [22:56]
mircea_popescu yw [22:56]
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mutate_ I'm fairly keen on being in the queue for one of the first alien blowjobs, before the novelty wears off and they start marrying humans and making them unhappy. Unfortunately I can't by any magic Ether cards because maths and computers got you fairly badly bullied at school and so I simply use a computer to have my bank details stolen from and know nothing whatsoever about Linux. What can I do? [23:04]
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fluffypony mutate_: easy, just get yourself taken up for some probing [23:05]
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mircea_popescu mutate_ well, you could start working on crumbling that pile of impactions resulting from being bulied ? learn to linux ? [23:06]
mircea_popescu it's not nearly as hard as it seems. [23:06]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell midnightmagic i dun see a problem in principle either, but i was trying to examine this "salt is hard to mine" theory. anyway. [23:07]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:07]
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jurov what makes you think aliens will be good at bjs? [23:12]
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mircea_popescu jurov all those teeth man. [23:14]
jurov i guess someone preannounced they will sell for btc [23:14]
penguirker New blog post: [23:14]
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mircea_popescu “UNDER capitalism”, ran the old Soviet-era joke, “man exploits man. Under communism it is just the opposite.” In fact new research suggests that the Soviet system inspired not just sarcasm but cheating too: in East Germany, at least, communism appears to have inculcated moral laxity. << for the record, this is older than electricity. [23:16]
mircea_popescu "bolshevism is that jew-sponsored form of satanism that alters the moral fiber of good law abiding men making them beasts" [23:16]
mircea_popescu there's a whole discussion of the statement of these views as put forward by franco's republic a week or two ago in the logs. [23:16]
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mircea_popescu Rassah: My tribe consists of Tsiolkovsky and Tozoni, so I've been surrounded by extremely intimidating levels of inteligence... < if that means konstantin, wasn't the guy dead before the war ? [23:23]
mircea_popescu Rassah: p.s. I'm not saying their etherium deal is a good one. I don't think investing in ether can in any way give a better return than investing in bitcoin... I don't think vitalik is much of a finance guy, either, so I'm not sure if this "ipo" ca be blamed on him << what the fuck sense does this make ? some guy that's not a finance guy involving himself in finance things is stupid by any conceivable definition of th [23:25]
mircea_popescu e term. [23:25]
mircea_popescu is also to blame, by any conceivable definition of blame. [23:25]
fluffypony ok HeySteve says his connection is fixed [23:25]
fluffypony and we can unban him [23:25]
mircea_popescu moreover, buterin in particular is very very guilty, because he knew what he should have done, and he's known it for a long fucking time. [23:25]
mircea_popescu a kk [23:25]
chanserv op #bitcoin-assets [23:26]
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mircea_popescu as a rule of thumb, i would say it's a great idea that if one's using a bouncer, that one sets the bouncer up so if it fails three times in five minutes it stops trying and shoots the owner an email or something. join/part spam is definitely annoying in all channels, even if most won't do anything about it. [23:28]
dub !up mutate_ [23:28]
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mutate_ Thanks dub. [23:30]
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rithm by bouncer has some long retry delays and a list of every freenode server [23:31]
mircea_popescu !up HeySteve [23:31]
-assbot- You voiced HeySteve for 30 minutes. [23:31]
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rithm raise the roof hobana [23:32]
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mircea_popescu rithm that also works. [23:32]
rithm if my bouncer didn't work i'd quit bitcoin [23:32]
HeySteve hello [23:32]
mircea_popescu people can want to minimize delays if they're trying to log a chan, but here the logs are published anyway. [23:32]
rithm screw you guys, I'm out [23:32]
mircea_popescu and related, [23:32]
HeySteve not using a bouncer, ADSL just gets dicey occasionally [23:32]
rithm use a bouncer [23:33]
rithm znc is fun [23:33]
fluffypony znc is the bomb diggety [23:33]
rithm i was like a decade-long psyBNC user [23:33]
rithm idk y in retrospect [23:33]
HeySteve if I forget to disconnect before I go to sleep it can get spammy [23:33]
mircea_popescu HeySteve you can prolly set your client not to auto-reconnect [23:33]
dub you are nearly always spammy [23:33]
dub invest in a shell [23:34]
rithm yeah my shell is prepaid up to like 2017 [23:34]
rithm get with the times [23:34]
HeySteve ok disabled the auto-reconnect [23:34]
mircea_popescu should be fine then. [23:35]
rithm this is like 101 stuff like using BCC [23:35]
rithm or black boxes instead of blur filters to redact [23:35]
mircea_popescu < this is how you redact, noob :D [23:36]
rithm plain white boxes would also redact just as well [23:37]
rithm nice pattern though [23:37]
dub lol [23:37]
rithm who signed up for porn? [23:37]
jurov no porn. just alien blowjobs are IPOing somewhere [23:38]
kakobrekla dun forget; [23:39]
rithm is definitely a porn cancellation [23:39]
mircea_popescu !s sexgangsters [23:39]
assbot 0 results for 'sexgangsters' : [23:39]
mircea_popescu hm [23:39]
mircea_popescu da fuck it was called [23:39]
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mircea_popescu !s gangsters [23:39]
assbot 24 results for 'gangsters' : [23:39]
rithm it says [23:40]
rithm looks like a reocurring 34.99 if I've ever seen anything like that [23:40]
mircea_popescu << there. some web game i played for five minutes [23:40]
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mircea_popescu and thus got like five bux. [23:40]
HeySteve heh I tried that sexgangsters thing, didn't seem very interactive tho [23:40]
mircea_popescu i suspect this is deliberate. if people wanted interactive they wouldn't do online porn, they'd get a gf. [23:41]
mircea_popescu << interactive. [23:41]
HeySteve I learnt today of some guy in Romania making a Heroes of Might & Magic style browser game [23:42]
HeySteve the idea is you'll be able to play against people for Bitcoin [23:42]
HeySteve is the link but it's quite far from finished [23:43]
assbot AncientBeast - Turn Based Strategy Game [23:43]
mircea_popescu well there have been like 500 remakes, i recall playing a pretty good one back in 2007ish. [23:43]
mircea_popescu but still, great idea. who's he ? why's he not here ? [23:43]
HeySteve I will ask him to join [23:43]
mircea_popescu please do. homm2/3 were like... the best games ever made. [23:43]
mircea_popescu i still play em ffs. [23:43]
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mircea_popescu !up DreadKnight [23:44]
-assbot- You voiced DreadKnight for 30 minutes. [23:44]
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DreadKnight bacon, ty fellow romanian [23:44]
mircea_popescu o hi there. so what's this game thing ? [23:44]
HeySteve hey DreadKnight [23:44]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, open source game I'm doing, will eventually allow people to battle for bitcoin, a mix of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and trading card games, lots of units, each with unique abilities [23:45]
mircea_popescu this is splendid. do you want to release under ? [23:45]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, sorry, what's not familiar with bitcoin-assets atm [23:46]
mircea_popescu this thing. [23:46]
assbot S.MG last 2@0.00009100 [23:46]
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mircea_popescu basically, bitcoin electronic arts, let's say. [23:46]
mircea_popescu !up nagzter [23:46]
-assbot- You voiced nagzter for 30 minutes. [23:46]
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nagzter hey [23:46]
mircea_popescu ello [23:46]
nagzter HeySteve: mentioned this channel over in #ancientbeast and I wanted to check it out ;) [23:47]
dub dude, aspiring to be EA? [23:47]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, is that a license type? trying to make sense of it :D [23:47]
mircea_popescu dub yes. [23:47]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight it could be, yes. [23:48]
mircea_popescu ;;topic [23:48]
gribble || || || [23:48]
mircea_popescu nagzter ^ best way to check it out is the log. [23:48]
dub mircea_popescu: you'll want to aim higher than those fucktards [23:48]
nagzter I'm over on the site now ;) [23:48]
mircea_popescu dub in what sense higher ? [23:48]
nagzter I read the topics ;) [23:49]
dub less crack more utility [23:49]
mircea_popescu cool. [23:49]
HeySteve EA are quite hated, what they did to Dungeon Keeper was terrible [23:49]
mircea_popescu dub they're supposed to be games not utilities man. [23:49]
mircea_popescu HeySteve i did say BITCOIN ea didn't i. [23:49]
mircea_popescu like you know, bitcoin is the bitcoin dollar. doesn't mean anyone's printing it. [23:49]
mircea_popescu just the good parts. [23:49]
mircea_popescu HeySteve you don't mean dk2 do you ? [23:50]
HeySteve nope mircea_popescu, they released a DK mobile game [23:50]
mircea_popescu oh. that i never saw. [23:50]
HeySteve where to mine a block, you basically had to pay or wait a few hours / days [23:50]
mircea_popescu ew [23:50]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight anyway, get your gpg registered in the wot as a first step. we'll work something out. [23:51]
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DreadKnight mircea_popescu, website doesn't provide any info about what this is exactly; I did one or more transactions on bitcoin-otc thingy a while ago if that helps [23:53]
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HeySteve [23:54]
assbot BBC News - EA faces criticism over mobile Dungeon Keeper game [23:54]
pankkake ;;gpg info DreadKnight [23:54]
gribble User 'DreadKnight', with keyid F6A23D326FDF1035, fingerprint 2011A2ADC029482B2C2A1E9EF6A23D326FDF1035, and bitcoin address None, registered on Sun Apr 7 14:39:11 2013, last authed on Sun Apr 7 12:39:11 2013. . Currently not authenticated. [23:54]
DreadKnight I'm pretty sure I have gpg key [23:54]
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DreadKnight !gpg info [23:55]
mircea_popescu ;;ident DreadKnight [23:55]
gribble Nick 'DreadKnight', with hostmask 'DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight', is not identified. [23:55]
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mircea_popescu well, do you still have key 2011A2ADC029482B2C2A1E9EF6A23D326FDF1035 ? [23:55]
DreadKnight checking folder [23:56]
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mircea_popescu gpg --list-keys --fingreprint [23:58]
DreadKnight was looking for that [23:58]
DreadKnight gpg: Invalid option "--fingreprint" [23:59]
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mike_c fingerprint, not fingreprint [23:59]
mircea_popescu ;/ [23:59]
DreadKnight seems I have that key, yey, mircea_popescu [23:59]
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