Forum logs for 23 Jan 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
adlai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/19B0HZY.txt [00:21]
* adlai places faith in log-based delivery and nudges shinohai on his way to class [00:23]
phf: apropos, http://btcbase.org/log/?nick=phf will highlight all the messages from and to nick (it's half baked, like it doesn't get preserved when you switch pages, but i have the logs bookmarked that way, so that i can see if i got mentioned at a glance) [00:25]
BingoBoingo: ty adlai [00:26]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-up-amazing-16-64-as-usual-another-all-time-high/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Mining Difficulty Up Amazing 16.64% (As Usual Another All Time High) [00:27]
phf: thestringpuller: i have just the bag for you http://draughtdrygoods.tumblr.com/post/51029383094/draught-dry-goods-getaway-duffel-in-unwashed [01:00]
davout: "I designed it to hold one million dollars in cash, and that’s why it’s named The Getaway Duffel." [01:18]
jurov: http://thenewstack.io/happens-use-java-1960-ibm-mainframe/ [04:56]
jurov: kek "But the data from the mainframes was actually arriving in less than six milliseconds. The bottleneck was — of course — the Java application." [04:56]
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/01/23/ordinary-trouble-of-an-euloran-explorer/ << Ossasepia - Ordinary trouble of an Euloran explorer [04:58]
mircea_popescu: in idle consideratons today : what are the odds random fat chick calls herself "unalocamas" and how do they stack against the odds random crazy chick calls herself "unagordamas" [09:53]
BingoBoingo: 3? [09:55]
mircea_popescu: lol [09:55]
mircea_popescu: (the lulz here, for noobs, is that in classical medicine mental derangement was deemed a major driver of being fat) [09:56]
BingoBoingo: There's a reason why it's the classic explanation [10:25]
mircea_popescu: aha. [10:53]
asciilifeform: in other lulz: https://archive.is/THGQG >> 'Asked whether a missile had mis-fired, she said she was not going to get into "operational details" and would not say whether Mrs May had been told this. Questioned by the BBC's Andrew Marr on Sunday, Prime Minister Theresa May refused four times to say whether she had known about the test firing ahead of the vote. ... "There is a convention that we don't talk about the deterrent... because [10:58]
asciilifeform: that is the nature of the deterrent - it is about the security of this nation and I would fully support the prime minister in avoiding those questions," he said. A statement issued by Downing Street and the MoD said the capability and effectiveness of Trident was "unquestionable".' [10:58]
mircea_popescu: lol security of this nation. [11:00]
mircea_popescu: security from what ? the only enemy is already there and the only thing he'd ever do he's already doing, trading the 13yo not-yet-bloomed english roses like goats. [11:01]
mircea_popescu: exactly what does theresa may imagine she's protecting and from whom ? [11:01]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: protecting own neck from the noose, as per http://qntra.net/2017/01/the-fourth-reich-grips-berlin [11:03]
asciilifeform: trident is mandatory per britain's post-1945 role as 'airstrip one' [11:03]
mircea_popescu: myeah. what the fuck is with stupid people, keep picking deeply inadequate weapons ? [11:03]
asciilifeform: it isn't intended to ~work~, srsly [11:03]
asciilifeform: it is part of fellating usg. [11:03]
mircea_popescu: a nigger called theresa may misusing ancient and dysfunctional "nuclear weapons" is not substantially different from a nigger called antron singleton going from diner table to diner urinal with an antitank rocket launcher in each hand [11:04]
mircea_popescu: what the fuck are they gonna do with the hardware ? [11:04]
asciilifeform: strut, parade, for massah, what. [11:17]
mircea_popescu: i guess. [11:17]
mircea_popescu: you'd expect middle class middled aged white women are slightly above the nonsense, but i guess it's not the case for theresa may. [11:18]
asciilifeform: which nonsense. (traditionally) the handlers don't even let near the wheel, anybody who showed symptoms of having so much as latent ability to tell usg to pack it [11:20]
asciilifeform: and when an orc does -- out he goes. like kaddafi, yanukovych, et al. [11:21]
mircea_popescu: she really got nothing better to do with her time than dancing for nickels ? [11:21]
BingoBoingo: Obviously not [11:25]
mircea_popescu: i guess so huh. [11:33]
mircea_popescu: place aspires to be an empire, best it can produce is a tacticool newb. [11:34]
asciilifeform: empire eaten and digested long ago. [11:34]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/19B0HZY.txt [11:34]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [11:34]
shinohai: !~later tell adlai we square now? [11:36]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [11:36]
BingoBoingo: shinohai: ty [11:36]
shinohai: o7 [11:36]
shinohai: qntra incoming [11:36]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/1YaPo/?raw=true [11:38]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [11:38]
BingoBoingo: shinohai: The peter jokes are good, but the mentioned peter's just aren't people enough. [11:41]
BingoBoingo: Unless maybe rewritted. [11:42]
shinohai: hmmm kk [11:42]
BingoBoingo: Prolly a better way to rewrite it. [11:43]
BingoBoingo: Also when linking wot'd persons feel free to link to wot.deedbot.org [11:44]
shinohai: mb [11:45]
BingoBoingo: Also if nobodies are to be talked about, "Who they think they are" is helpful. [11:53]
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=6338 [12:12]
thestringpuller: !~ticker [12:23]
jhvh1: thestringpuller: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 919.98, Best ask: 919.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 919.99, 24 hour volume: 10491.57906088, 24 hour low: 910.01, 24 hour high: 928.87, 24 hour vwap: None [12:23]
BingoBoingo: In the tabloids http://www.returnofkings.com/113272/man-who-sucker-punched-alt-right-leader-richard-spencer-may-literally-be-a-shit-eating-cuckhold [12:47]
trinque: chick needs to eat better [12:50]
trinque: those look dry [12:50]
BingoBoingo: lol [12:50]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/W0FIQ << in other lulz. 'Western Union admits to aiding wire fraud, to pay $586 mln' [13:27]
asciilifeform: 'Western Union Co, the world's biggest money-transfer company, agreed to pay $586 million and admitted to turning a blind eye as criminals used its service for money laundering and fraud, U.S. authorities said on Thursday. Western Union, which has over half a million locations in more than 200 countries, admitted "to aiding and abetting wire fraud" by allowing scammers to process transactions, even when the company realized its agent [13:27]
asciilifeform: s were helping scammers avoid detection, the U.S. Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission said in statements.' [13:27]
mircea_popescu: gotta pay for them f69s somehow [13:28]
phf: or in the words of monkey dust "Hello, I'm Ivan Dobsky. I'm the Meatsafe Murderer, only I never done it. I only said I'd done so they'd take the jump cables off me testicles." [13:52]
phf: namecheap just lost my domain records. i would not have known about it, if fastmail didn't send me a notification, that mx records have changed.. [14:23]
phf: "sincerely most honestly sorries, due to technical glitch, but all fixed noa!!1" [14:24]
trinque: the same happened to me they then reverted me to a quite old version of them. [14:26]
phf: wtf "Welcome to Namecheap.com. Dear Customer, Thank you very much for signing up with us..." [14:30]
mircea_popescu: namecheap.com, the world's biggest functiona ux ajax website, agreed to pay $randomnumber and admitted to being unable to safely store data even as idiots fucked around on the lone dnssec-mysql server. [14:35]
mircea_popescu: or wait, that's from an alt-universe. [14:35]
deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/if-it-was-my-daughter/ << Daniel P. Barron - If it was my daughter [14:44]
thestringpuller: namecheap has fallen to the bottom of the barrel. i only stay with them because the cost of migrating the domain is about the same as 3 years of having the domain... [15:01]
thestringpuller: everyone wants to use the comcast business model of annoying you out of your money [15:02]
asciilifeform: there is afaik no useful reason to migrate, dnsism is a straight 'strip mine' business model (lure in chumps, then turn scammer and fleece'em) afaik. [15:13]
asciilifeform: every registrar i know of, has followed this pattern. [15:13]
asciilifeform: and given as the good being sold is fundamentally chumpatronic, not mega-surprise. [15:14]
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf do you know of any public cl implementation where all os-specific liquishit is reasonably compartmentalized ? (it isn't in sbcl, cmucl, or ccl, and did i miss anything..??) [16:47]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [16:47]
danielpbarron: !!v 78F16E772CDFAA9AD99D087F4E5E4E2CD7F4458CE54CA469D8742979D15EE13A [16:55]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of juliatourianski_ from 5 to 4 << Absence does not always make the heart grow fonder [16:55]
danielpbarron: !!v 5C2BBA883543231B1C242C5A8D859B2899C54D534416192AAD2E22CFBDDC6B78 [16:58]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of BingoBoingo from 3 to 2 << Obnoxiously dedicated to republican memes and a promoter of false religions [16:58]
danielpbarron: !!v 5293AE0C7F3EC843419131EEE4D4829A5B0D2AB307E777368E7559F68BACFA12 [17:00]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of diana_coman from 3 to 4 << Anyway a shrewd negotiator anyway [17:00]
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i'm a bit surprised a segwit stoolie ranks as positive in your book [17:00]
ben_vulpes: and in other news, trumpreich out of the tpp eh? [17:00]
mircea_popescu: what is a tpp ? [17:01]
ben_vulpes: "trans pacific partnership" [17:01]
mircea_popescu: a. yeah he been making noises about it for 6 mo [17:02]
ben_vulpes: an american politician following through on campaign noises is astonishing i tell you [17:02]
danielpbarron: !!v 97CDE502F95CBAC273D486434FB5400BE611BCE2C3F9BD74DF7328C37A7E7952 [17:02]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of pete_dushenski from 3 to 2 << Any pride is too much pride [17:02]
mircea_popescu: now this is tru [17:02]
danielpbarron: ben_vulpes, giving benefit of doubt she's being loyal to her son's father, should just be making the case in here rather than elsewhere [17:03]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you're not seriously talking about bb's aa are you ? [17:04]
danielpbarron: yes. [17:04]
mircea_popescu: well ? chicks loyal to her son's father which didn't do much for her yet nevertheless bb shouldn't be allowed to like the club that fixed a problem for him ? [17:05]
danielpbarron: !!v E9A94DDE6A3B14ED1852BCC7AB86F43BB5AF4AD207C78C7E8ECF08C2B0353A40 [17:05]
deedbot: danielpbarron unrated Gaxaro. [17:05]
ben_vulpes: segwit is an assault on bitcoin, no two ways about it. [17:05]
ben_vulpes: by extension, the republic. [17:06]
danielpbarron: it fixed nothing. while drinking he hated the true God and while sober he hates the true God [17:06]
danielpbarron: maybe even worse off now that he ~thinks~ he is well [17:06]
mircea_popescu: this ironically mirrors my impression of segwit. [17:07]
danielpbarron: she'll end up negative eventually, or maybe try to remedy the situation [17:08]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i thought aa people were very gingerly careful to not say they're a religion. [17:09]
danielpbarron: !v D08C935276B078DB9FCD6FCFFC1725FCDFE77A87164F568A73E7F128C59A09AC [17:09]
danielpbarron: !!v D08C935276B078DB9FCD6FCFFC1725FCDFE77A87164F568A73E7F128C59A09AC [17:09]
deedbot: danielpbarron unrated bagels7. [17:09]
danielpbarron: bb and I discussed this in the log already http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-20#1378244 [17:11]
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 04:34 danielpbarron: http://www.atruechurch.info/aa.html >> A.A. admits they have no cure, but that's because they are under the delusion that there isn't one. [17:11]
danielpbarron: !!v E783F13C77B0F80A23DA7357716484EF04FCF8FADD87F6ACBD5FF5DE21FE9F4A [17:13]
deedbot: danielpbarron unrated bcb. [17:13]
danielpbarron: !!v F9407466EACD2DF0AB7613A0BB85C42BAB11CC56985173679FEAAF664ED5246F [17:15]
deedbot: danielpbarron unrated cazalla. [17:15]
danielpbarron: !!v E6194BF73BDCE6273CCAEED1BB91D315550E87DB7C986B418342770D88FD7224 [17:17]
deedbot: danielpbarron unrated fghj. [17:17]
danielpbarron: !!v 5170ABCB99A79A5275A0C25C0B5F4CA3D2F2EAAAAEB2A8D79A25A21EA35D1E6C [17:18]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of ben_vulpes from 1 to 3 << Very friendly helpful and patient [17:18]
danielpbarron: !!v FF2C824B7253D2A3AE982D34A2C04D1F78A01CF756F67495EA13AEE70F640411 [17:20]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of shinohai from 1 to 2 << Puts in the work [17:20]
shinohai: why ty danielpbarron [17:21]
danielpbarron: !!v 51D2B9F25AAC0CC96F61FC023665A31D343DFC408C206172E2F946ABBB6FAD0B [17:22]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of phf from -1 to 1 << Pays attention [17:22]
ben_vulpes: patient heh [17:22]
danielpbarron: !!v B1AE766C409CE01704FBDD068D262C79885D5B22D8C8C020E1BC842A221C75A4 [17:24]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of trinque from 2 to 1 << Quick to anger [17:24]
danielpbarron: got a lot more unrates but maybe i'll keep those out of the chan as it's mostly just cleaning out names that i haven't seen in years [17:25]
trinque: !!v 35BE6FD444EDADCA0D04E3D681106E8E31D791197B44DB40CF2D763EEE61E732 [17:28]
deedbot: trinque rated BingoBoingo 1 << Ye shall know them by their memes. [17:28]
asciilifeform: in other nooze, https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1096 [17:30]
asciilifeform: ^ arbitrary code execution. [17:31]
asciilifeform: 'Cisco's WebEx extension (jlhmfgmfgeifomenelglieieghnjghma) has ~20M active users, and is part of Cisco's popular web conferencing software. The extension works on any URL that contains the magic pattern "cwcsf-nativemsg-iframe-43c85c0d-d633-af5e-c056-32dc7efc570b.html", which can be extracted from the extensions manifest. Note that the pattern can occur in an iframe, so there is not necessarily any user-visible indication of what is [17:31]
asciilifeform: happening, visiting any website would be enough.' [17:31]
asciilifeform: 'The extension uses nativeMessaging, so this magic string is enough for any website to execute arbitrary code (!!).' [17:32]
mircea_popescu: ciscos's popular web conferincing software ? sorry ? [17:34]
mircea_popescu: no fucking way. IF it has 20k users it's a wonder. and those 20k users are indians doing vaguely anal sexthings to each other. [17:34]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'webex' is pestilentially common in usa. [17:36]
asciilifeform: ~ubiquitous, among the Professionally Sad. [17:36]
mircea_popescu: these are unrelated items. [17:36]
asciilifeform: waiwat [17:36]
mircea_popescu: there aren'ty 20mn professionally sad, you understand. [17:37]
mircea_popescu: moreover, they're inactive by definition. [17:37]
asciilifeform: whatever they are -- they're pwnable, silently and cleanly, for probably quite a while. [17:44]
mircea_popescu: i'm sure. [17:47]
mats: https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training << luls, guy that went to BCT with Manning says he was a little bitch even then [19:24]
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606203 << There is only a daily repreive contingent on improving one's spiritual condition [19:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-23 22:11 danielpbarron: bb and I discussed this in the log already http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-20#1378244 [19:25]
mats: my time in OSUT was a breeze and mostly an exercise in schadenfreude, its a cake walk unless you're mentally unstable or a fatbody [19:26]
mats: worst part was not having anything mentally stimulating to do, i had to ask people to send me books in the mail so i could read something besides labels on shampoo bottles and the fucking bible [19:29]
mats: i went to all of the religious services - even the one for wiccans - to collect reading materials and sleep in the pews [19:31]
asciilifeform: mats: they give'em time to read bibles?!! [19:31]
ben_vulpes: mats: how many times have you read the old testament? [19:32]
mats: asciilifeform: a coupla hours per day were dedicated just to standing around waiting for shit to happen, ie, waiting for the cattle trucks to appear so they could shuttle recruits to the training sites [19:32]
danielpbarron: oh boy Bible talk :D [19:32]
mats: ben_vulpes: i grew up in the church, so... i lost count [19:33]
asciilifeform: mats: sounds like heaven [19:33]
asciilifeform: mats: you could play chess in your head! etc [19:33]
mats: its mind numbing, i did actually play chess on paper as a mental exercise for some weeks [19:33]
mats: e4 e5 ... f3 c6 ... etc. looking back it does feel like i kinda slept through most of it, standing up [19:34]
ben_vulpes: mats: ah well i can see how it'd be less than riveting then [19:35]
mats: the best part was watching fatties get yelled at and smoked for being unable to complete exercises [19:36]
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606168 << this will be VERBOTEN HATE SPEECH but amazon's registration and dns record handling is entirely adequate [19:39]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-23 20:13 asciilifeform: every registrar i know of, has followed this pattern. [19:39]
* danielpbarron uses zoneedit [19:39]
danielpbarron: used to be a very nice qntra-esque interface but "upgraded" to web2.0 a few years ago. [19:40]
shinohai: ah interesting danielpbarron [19:41]
ben_vulpes: aws console is very heavy on the javascript, but light on the ux [19:41]
danielpbarron: i only have the one domain and it doesn't need changing so I rarely have to actually use the thing [19:42]
shinohai: !~bible 1 Corinthians 13 4-8 [19:42]
jhvh1: shinohai: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax. [19:42]
shinohai: !~bible 1 Cor 13 4-8 [19:43]
jhvh1: shinohai: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax. [19:43]
shinohai: ? [19:43]
shinohai: f [19:43]
danielpbarron: you sure you want to print 5 lines? [19:43]
ben_vulpes: "this is my domain. there are many like it, but this one is mine." [19:44]
danielpbarron: if you could find a NKJV to put in there, it would keep most things on a single line, but KJV is always 1 verse 1 line [19:44]
danielpbarron: but anyway it's 1 Cor 13:4-8 [19:44]
ben_vulpes: one man, one verse, one vote, one line [19:44]
shinohai: !~bible 1 Corinthians 13:8 [19:44]
jhvh1: shinohai: [KJV] 1 Corinthians 13:8 :: Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail whether there be tongues, they shall cease whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. [19:44]
shinohai: thats it i was checking if it banned > 3 lines! :D [19:45]
ben_vulpes: heh [19:45]
danielpbarron: shinohai, it didn't. you need a colon between chapter and verse(s) [19:45]
ben_vulpes: i made people read corinthians at standup for a while [19:45]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606183 << watch peanut gallery take 360 on tpp, since trump did it [19:46]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-23 22:02 ben_vulpes: an american politician following through on campaign noises is astonishing i tell you [19:46]
shinohai: ty [19:47]
shinohai: but no, more than 5 lines is reserved for private channels [19:48]
ben_vulpes: phf: tpp would have saved clitorises and improved livelihoods of innumerable foreign brown people [19:49]
ben_vulpes: you racist [19:49]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: does it work with non-aws servers? [19:51]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you can point whatever record at whichever ip [19:56]
asciilifeform: sooo wat's the catch [19:56]
ben_vulpes: you have to give jeff bezos money? [19:56]
ben_vulpes: by my read it's a small side thing they provide to get as much ops cognition to happen through their tooling as possible [19:57]
trinque: it's not like AWS is *more* usgtronic than namecheap et al [19:57]
trinque: gonna DNS at all, might as well do it at the most-fed ministry [19:58]
mod6: evenin' [20:08]
ben_vulpes: heya mod6 [20:16]
phf: asciilifeform: i somehow missed that later tell, i thought it was in pm [20:16]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606170 << no, and i think it's a combination of "scaring" and complexity. takes a lot of effort to build one from scratch. clim's beach actually tried building one, SICL https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL which is closest to "compartmenalized", but i'm not sure where it is. probably heavy WIP stage. (and reading the ilc slides it seems like it's beach/mcclim style overengineered) [20:16]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-23 21:47 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf do you know of any public cl implementation where all os-specific liquishit is reasonably compartmentalized ? (it isn't in sbcl, cmucl, or ccl, and did i miss anything..??) [20:16]
asciilifeform: i can't really think of any excuse why the 'machine anchor' of common lisp HAS to be any bigger than, e.g., tinyscheme's [20:29]
asciilifeform: (i.e. the portion not written in 'itself') [20:29]
ben_vulpes: strandh got his working in llvm in relatively short order [20:30]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what means 'on llvm' [20:30]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: rather, what does the build chain look like in this example ? [20:30]
ben_vulpes: step1: buy an apple box [20:31]
phf: ben_vulpes: you mean clang? [20:32]
phf: err [20:32]
ben_vulpes: i [20:32]
phf: clasp [20:32]
ben_vulpes: don't know? [20:32]
ben_vulpes: yse [20:32]
ben_vulpes: yes* [20:32]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: llvm is mighty heavy, so i'm not sure how this statement disproves mine [20:32]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't really know what you're asking. his uses llvm-ir to tie into cpp, it's the ~whole point of it. [20:32]
asciilifeform: what i am asking is to dispense with the motherfucking cpp. [20:33]
ben_vulpes: and yes wtf llvm is an iridium brick of apple compiler phd time [20:33]
asciilifeform: and the horse it rode in on. [20:33]
asciilifeform: 64kB of asm or fuckoff. [20:33]
ben_vulpes: you don't want this nice abstraction layer? [20:33]
asciilifeform: (e.g., Mulisp, is 47kB!) [20:34]
ben_vulpes: you won't even taste the poop anymore. it's really nice... [20:34]
phf: well, you can probably write an evaluator for lisp core (and host something like sicl on top), but the result is going to be dog slow, at which point you'll have to work out an optimization strategy that's not going to leave scaring. that's a long and careful project, an anathema in open source [20:50]
asciilifeform: i'll point out that mulisp (47kB) included bignum (again, in asm) [20:51]
phf: (fwiw last time i checked in with clasp, it was also dog slow, probably a combination of insane technology tower and lack of optimization strategy, that all goes back to original point "writing lisp is hard") [20:51]
asciilifeform: optimization has to begin with sane evaluator design (e.g. appropriate use of the type bits, integrated numeric tower, cdr-coding) [20:53]
phf: it's also possible that the development cycle that involves basically no way to twitch (i.e. you're either hacking for 5 hours or gaming for 2 or you're on "trilema bbs" for 30 minutes) has something to do with it ) [20:55]
asciilifeform: eh the ancients had distractions of their own. [21:03]
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606296 << SICL's status makes a lot more sense in-context: "It is intentionally divided into many implementation-independent modules that are written in a totally or near-totally portable way, so as to allow other implementations to incorporate these modules from SICL, rather than having to maintain their own, perhaps implementation-specific versions" [22:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 01:16 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606170 << no, and i think it's a combination of "scaring" and complexity. takes a lot of effort to build one from scratch. clim's beach actually tried building one, SICL https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL which is closest to "compartmenalized", but i'm not sure where it is. probably heavy WIP stage. (and reading the ilc slides it seems like it's beach/mcclim style overengineered) [22:25]
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