Forum logs for 22 Dec 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
phf: witness the domain registrar game sci-hub has been playing for months now [00:00]
weevlos: fuck jews [00:06]
weevlos: 1488 [00:06]
weevlos: wpww [00:06]
danielpbarron: !!v DA3A767B703CF9C1BB5CFBF05C27B1E79611010BB91EB376792989C74F85CC63 [00:10]
deedbot: danielpbarron rated weevlos 1 << the weev, friend of Emily Youcis [00:10]
danielpbarron: !!pay MTW 0.054 [00:11]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Q05Gw/?raw=true [00:11]
danielpbarron: !!v CB3094811C6BBD862407F9CD6DFD04EB80A8398265CC1992BC13971B23B2DF55 [00:13]
deedbot: danielpbarron paid MTW 0.054 [00:13]
danielpbarron: that's for l0de [00:14]
danielpbarron: who said MTW is his rep [00:14]
trinque: !!up weevlos [00:17]
deedbot: weevlos voiced for 30 minutes. [00:17]
trinque: what prevents you from simply declaring an IP ? [00:17]
weevlos: lack of memorability [00:18]
trinque: or hell, designate a bitcoin address, and issue transactions with four outputs, one per octet [00:18]
trinque: !!up NoMo [00:21]
deedbot: NoMo voiced for 30 minutes. [00:21]
trinque: hello, who are you? [00:21]
NoMo: me? [00:21]
trinque: you were upped. [00:22]
trinque: weevlos: tell you this, if the kids can't even introduce themselves properly memorizing an IP for the revolution is right out. [00:23]
weevlos: we may get there [00:24]
weevlos: but we want to be a normal website [00:24]
weevlos: with a persistent brand [00:25]
weevlos: people arent going to read off octets [00:25]
weevlos: to a stranger at a bar [00:25]
weevlos: this isnt about our consistent readers [00:25]
weevlos: this is about the rest of the internet easily being able to find us [00:25]
weevlos: if we are pulling crazy shit [00:26]
weevlos: that's what a domain name is for [00:26]
trinque: it's a problem, because on the other side, this "branding" shit is going in the gas chambers. [00:26]
weevlos: "daily stormer" is a very successful brand [00:26]
trinque: and doubly "I can't be bothered to know a few integers" [00:26]
weevlos: well, reality is [00:27]
weevlos: most people can't be expected to [00:27]
weevlos: they simply won't show up [00:27]
danielpbarron: !!up rainrawr [00:31]
deedbot: rainrawr voiced for 30 minutes. [00:31]
rainrawr: sweet [00:31]
rainrawr: thanks [00:31]
danielpbarron: http://p.bvulpes.com/ [00:31]
danielpbarron: !!up StarmanDeluxe [00:34]
deedbot: StarmanDeluxe voiced for 30 minutes. [00:34]
rainrawr: !!reg http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OHjBd/?raw=true [00:36]
rainrawr: !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OHjBd/?raw=true [00:37]
deedbot: 5048EC06FA366D1350F5DBDD55A423FD89074FC4 registered as rainrawr. [00:37]
danielpbarron: !!rate rainrawr 1 l0de fan [00:37]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kZlmp/?raw=true [00:37]
rainrawr: sup Techman [00:38]
trinque: !!up Techman [00:39]
deedbot: Techman voiced for 30 minutes. [00:39]
danielpbarron: !!v 7CE81FDF0E9BC0468B1338809F62480FD9D69D02EB8D96E981C95CE3EFD111FE [00:41]
deedbot: danielpbarron rated rainrawr 1 << l0de fan [00:41]
rainrawr: !!up [00:41]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hOGwx/?raw=true [00:41]
NoMo: let's all do acid and try to contact aliens [00:42]
trinque: !!down NoMo [00:42]
trinque: weevlos: what do you gain by making things easy for the stupid? [00:42]
danielpbarron: !!up toohigh [00:45]
deedbot: toohigh voiced for 30 minutes. [00:45]
toohigh: WHO'S TIRED OF WINNING?!!? [00:45]
danielpbarron: not me [00:45]
danielpbarron: !!up douchebag_ [00:46]
deedbot: douchebag_ voiced for 30 minutes. [00:46]
douchebag_: yes hello douchebag here [00:46]
toohigh: Yes hello caller, your on the AIR! [00:46]
mircea_popescu: heh what happened here then [00:47]
douchebag_: yes hello [00:47]
mircea_popescu: oh that radio show thing ? [00:48]
Techman: Hello sir [00:48]
trinque: mircea_popescu: appears dpb crossed some streams! [00:48]
mircea_popescu: anything good so far ? [00:48]
trinque: eh nazis that can't and now I guess the kids are pulling out their dicks [00:49]
mircea_popescu: oh, 2 bitcent dick pix ? shall we do a today-only special ? [00:49]
trinque: loller [00:50]
mircea_popescu: douchebag_ toohigh NoMo rainrawr and whoever else, you seen http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ i expect ? [00:51]
douchebag_: yes [00:53]
mircea_popescu: aite, so write 4b1e6528 on your dick, take a pic, make 2 bitcents. [00:53]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-21-dec-2017#2381392 << evident enough, admission or no admission. [00:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 18:08 asciilifeform: i'll admit ftr that this item was one of the underlying seekrit crackpotteries behind asciilifeform's interest in shortwave [00:55]
toohigh: mircea_popescu [00:56]
mircea_popescu: yes. [00:56]
toohigh: The name of my first boat was: "Titties Forever" [00:56]
mircea_popescu: what boat was it ? [00:57]
douchebag_: kk writing it right now [00:57]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756156 << exactly as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752680 : being rich doesn't necessarioly promise much, mensa is fulla high iq losers and marinas/golf courses/boardrooms fulla high networth losers. HOWEVER! at the OTHER END... if you're poor you're dumb, no question. [00:58]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 18:29 asciilifeform: i gotta wonder how mircea_popescu squares pictures like this with 'net worth is proxy for intelligence', 'executives are skilled professionals', and similar [00:58]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 09:22 mircea_popescu: at the dumb end of the spectrum, however.. o ya. iq 88 is very much ahead of iq 83, and painfully evidently so. under 100, maybe even 120 or so, it DOES put a very strict upper limit on what people can do. [00:58]
Techman: !!register https://pastebin.com/raw/HWQNnsqt [00:58]
deedbot: B346C2114AC08E757348AFC6FE75457D86B20A0D registered as Techman. [00:58]
toohigh: It was Custom Pontoon Boat with a system and stripper pole that was sold the second time it was ever taken out, dude was running down the dock and flagged it down and bought it on the spot [00:58]
mircea_popescu: toohigh turned a decent proffit on the deal then ? [00:59]
danielpbarron: !!rate Techman 1 l0de radio fan [00:59]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3emSY/?raw=true [00:59]
mircea_popescu: !!rate Techman 1 noob. [00:59]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rO2ku/?raw=true [00:59]
douchebag_: kk i got dick pick [01:00]
douchebag_: what do [01:00]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756167 << interestingly enough extant V can handle this diversion -- make each cut carry a single sig of the common trunk. then it'll split that way. [01:01]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 18:39 trinque: I will post an experimental patch soon, when fit for other hands [01:01]
mircea_popescu: douchebag_ post it. [01:01]
douchebag_: kk 1 moment [01:01]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756170 << quite. phf has it. [01:01]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 18:41 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755738 [01:01]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756173 << lol exactly. [01:02]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 18:44 trinque: asciilifeform: beauty of v is that these paths can diverge cleanly, operator can choose which lineage to press. patches appropriate for multiple lines, ground onto multiple lines. [01:02]
toohigh: mircea_popescu Used it as a down payment on a new cruiser ) [01:03]
mircea_popescu: soon you'll outfleet the british royal navy. [01:03]
douchebag_: https://i.imgur.com/eSBAlSd.jpg [01:04]
douchebag_: 14ozpqsUeBc4AnmfxLmySGzNDbirzxZUVY [01:04]
danielpbarron: !!v B3EB2526A253B081C626D5FCE4B5C37658441839A565B5D6CB8322292957E1B8 [01:04]
deedbot: danielpbarron rated Techman 1 << l0de radio fan [01:04]
trinque: chortle [01:04]
pete_dushenski: douchebag_: wd! [01:04]
mircea_popescu: douchebag_ your face's not in the shot. [01:04]
Techman: !!up [01:04]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qA911/?raw=true [01:04]
douchebag_: oh shiet sec [01:05]
trinque: Techman: if not already voiced, you'll have to pm that. [01:05]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756189 << this is in my mind cca 1990s what lisp was FOR. a sort of php for fotran. [01:06]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 19:38 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-20#1755450 << i've picked up a book in new orleans, “Symbolic computation : applications to scientific computing”, it's all macsyma and various sussman style scheme hacks for exploring dynamic systems, but an interesting trick that almost all the code uses, which i guess was sop in lisp world at some point, is to do visualization and control on a lisp machine, but do the heavy numeric simulations in fortran 77. the in [01:06]
pete_dushenski: Techman: is your name a reference to the techmen from asimov's foundation series, the ones who maintained old empire tech on a hereditary basis and had nfi how the "nucleics" shit actually worked ? [01:06]
Techman: neither [01:06]
mircea_popescu: Techman so what do you do ? [01:07]
pete_dushenski: !!balance [01:08]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wfwwC/?raw=true [01:08]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756230 << aww, why take it so. [01:10]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 21:45 mod6: i simply curse the day that i ever wrote the thing [01:10]
danielpbarron: !!up Techman [01:11]
deedbot: Techman voiced for 30 minutes. [01:11]
danielpbarron: !!up rainrawr [01:11]
deedbot: rainrawr voiced for 30 minutes. [01:11]
rainrawr: !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fIO5t/?raw=true [01:12]
deedbot: 5048EC06FA366D1350F5DBDD55A423FD89074FC4 is already registered as rainrawr. [01:12]
rainrawr: !!up [01:12]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bgCO5/?raw=true [01:12]
mircea_popescu: rainrawr now you decrypt that, and then !!v blabla [01:12]
danielpbarron: heh, i'm talking to her right now via voice [01:13]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756258 << that's the idea. you can attempt to press any of the extant items seen on phf's viewer, see if you get correct presses. http://btcbase.org/patches [01:14]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 01:59 esthlos: by selecting which keys are acceptable, we get a subsequence of acceptable diffs, which are then used to patch the source [01:14]
toohigh: mircea_popescu You on discord? We are talking to her now here: https://discord.gg/nVvgCfY [01:14]
mircea_popescu: i'm not on discord and who's her. [01:14]
rainrawr: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/j3dbr/?raw=true [01:14]
rainrawr: mircea_popescu: hi im her [01:15]
mircea_popescu: lol hi her! [01:15]
trinque: put the thing after !!v her [01:15]
rainrawr: hi :D [01:15]
mircea_popescu: gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available << ahem [01:15]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756267 <<< quite, this. [01:16]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 02:03 asciilifeform: ( the linear flow display was also a mistake, it misleads people, does not actually help anybody. really ought to have exclusively tree-flow display, as mod6 had ) [01:16]
Techman: !!up CD6F4FA2F97A2B9D4070FFAD151231E9B4572DC560DE64FF94EB9BC54CD35CCB [01:17]
deedbot: CD6F4FA2F97A2B9D4070FFAD151231E9B4572DC560DE64FF94EB9BC54CD35CCB voiced for 30 minutes. [01:17]
mircea_popescu: contrary to what mod6 thinks, his v was actually very much useful. [01:17]
mircea_popescu: Techman !!v not !!up [01:17]
Techman: oh [01:17]
Techman: !!v CD6F4FA2F97A2B9D4070FFAD151231E9B4572DC560DE64FF94EB9BC54CD35CCB [01:17]
deedbot: You are now voiced in #trilema [01:17]
mircea_popescu: !!v is a general "verify my pending command" [01:17]
rainrawr: mircea_popescu: yeah i fucked something up apparently [01:17]
trinque: d'aw, this perky name is toast [01:18]
mircea_popescu: does that still work btw ? [01:18]
mircea_popescu: !!down Techman [01:18]
mircea_popescu: aww! [01:18]
mircea_popescu: !!up Techman [01:18]
deedbot: Techman voiced for 30 minutes. [01:18]
Techman: lol [01:18]
mircea_popescu: sorry about that, i fucked it up for you do once more. [01:18]
Techman: My bad mp [01:18]
mircea_popescu: nono, i was just livetesting. [01:18]
mircea_popescu: !#s from:deedbot "you can't do that to" [01:19]
a111: 0 results for "from:deedbot \"you can't do that to\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Adeedbot%20%22you%20can%27t%20do%20that%20to%22 [01:19]
mircea_popescu: old assbot behaviour. [01:19]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756273 << aha. correctly. [01:21]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 02:06 phf: that's what btcbase does™ [01:21]
trinque: pretty sure the way it is now is lord can do anything to non-lord, or lord in bad standing. [01:21]
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah, it's ok as it stands. [01:21]
mircea_popescu: !!down trinque [01:21]
deedbot: mircea_popescu may not $down trinque. [01:21]
mircea_popescu: $down eh :D [01:21]
trinque: lol, stale response string [01:22]
danielpbarron: !!up douchebag_ [01:22]
deedbot: douchebag_ voiced for 30 minutes. [01:22]
mircea_popescu: ahga. ancient. [01:22]
mircea_popescu: Techman anyway, i ended up testing bot behaviour, turns out it's correct. in the process devoiced you, but re-voice yourself in the same way and this time it'll stick until it disconnects. sorry for teh inconvenience [01:23]
mircea_popescu: but if one doesn't livetest on children who will one livetest on then! [01:23]
Techman: I don't even know that I did it wrong lol [01:23]
mircea_popescu: you did nothing wrong. [01:23]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756297 << lol did you call in ? [01:24]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 02:40 danielpbarron: yeah that was me [01:24]
danielpbarron: yes [01:24]
mircea_popescu: was it any good ? [01:25]
danielpbarron: apparently [01:25]
mircea_popescu: kek [01:25]
douchebag_: !! register https://pastebin.com/raw/eMLMBYv0 [01:25]
douchebag_: !!register https://pastebin.com/raw/eMLMBYv0 [01:25]
deedbot: EB901B424CBEE2900C2B09B5390F1C6A460DD6E7 registered as douchebag_. [01:25]
mircea_popescu: there you go. [01:25]
danielpbarron: !!rate douchebag_ 1 l0de fan [01:25]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YAyOL/?raw=true [01:25]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756300 << o you're paying 'em ? how much ? [01:26]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 02:40 danielpbarron: tell your boy l0de to get his key regged if he wants that free money [01:26]
trinque: looks like I got the auto-wallet-ulator working again. [01:26]
mircea_popescu: the what now ? [01:26]
trinque: the thing that makes these hordes new wallets when they register [01:27]
mircea_popescu: a. well that's good then. [01:27]
mircea_popescu: !!up l0de [01:27]
deedbot: l0de voiced for 30 minutes. [01:27]
mircea_popescu: o hey, are you the guy with the show then ? [01:28]
danielpbarron: !!up toohigh [01:28]
deedbot: toohigh voiced for 30 minutes. [01:28]
toohigh: !! register https://pastebin.com/CcxV5x1w [01:28]
mircea_popescu: nospace [01:29]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756317 << bwhahaha. this guy's sense of humour... it's like old spice. [01:29]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 03:20 phf: if only there was some way to capture a conversation so that it gets preserved for future readers [01:29]
Techman: pa pa pa pa pa power [01:31]
toohigh: !!register https://pastebin.com/raw/uicn6MtZ [01:31]
deedbot: EE47A2D680D980E66E44D25FAA1FE77FE82B0F99 registered as toohigh. [01:31]
toohigh: Real Talk [01:31]
danielpbarron: !!rate toohigh 1 l0de fan [01:31]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6sZ4H/?raw=true [01:31]
toohigh: prechiate! [01:31]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756370 << lol [01:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 04:47 weevlos: !!pay weevlos 0.1 [01:32]
mircea_popescu: !!pay mircea_popescu over nine thousands plox. [01:32]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dusH6/?raw=true [01:32]
mircea_popescu: o ya, weevlos whatever happened to that alfred chick. [01:33]
danielpbarron: !!v B22E3853EB6F7ED28C208F3C73DB308016E5867A74625E3F38F99A2196C9BE21 [01:34]
deedbot: danielpbarron rated douchebag_ 1 << l0de fan [01:34]
toohigh: #1 LODE FAN [01:35]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756403 << that's silly people have bookmarks, and otherwise little bits of paper. and phones. and so on. the problem of "memorability" is nil, stop advertising the enemy's tools. use nude ips, explain it's because domain names are made by jews to keep white people down, which isn't even all that false, and there you go. [01:35]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 05:18 weevlos: lack of memorability [01:35]
mircea_popescu: as memorable as the holocaust. [01:35]
toohigh: A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR ALL THOSE LOST IN THE GREAT MEME WAR 2015-2016. [01:37]
mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about (ha-ha), i put a girl on an anal hook for the first time in HER LIFE!!! which made her way too fucking tight we were going to hang out and watch a movie, but then i was like, "take half hour, lemme see what's going on in chan". and now... here we are, she's reading the log in the livingroom. [01:37]
mircea_popescu: the internet ruins lives. [01:38]
toohigh: Hats off to her for takin one for the team [01:38]
mircea_popescu: there's no team, it's just me. [01:38]
mircea_popescu: THERE IS NO YOU IN TEAM. [01:39]
toohigh: team as an oxymoron xD [01:39]
toohigh: Kratom saves [01:40]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756413 << not playing the game is the only way to win. be memorable through rejecting not through picking and choosing what parts of the idiocy to push. [01:40]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 05:25 weevlos: with a persistent brand [01:40]
trinque: !!up weevlos [01:40]
deedbot: weevlos voiced for 30 minutes. [01:40]
mircea_popescu: not "i'm so fucking radical i wear vintage tshirts" but "i'm so fucking radical I don't even wear anything". fuck tshirts and i don't care what ditty is on them. [01:41]
toohigh: T I T T I E S F O R E V E R [01:42]
toohigh: Try your hand at owning Strip Clubs and Adult Bookstore Chains ) [01:42]
toohigh: 110 [01:42]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756414 << the original slashdot.com was composed deliberately so that people COULD NOT read it to a dork. "oh man it's aiche te te pe colon slash slash slash dot dot com" "it doesn't work". [01:42]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 05:25 weevlos: people arent going to read off octets [01:42]
mircea_popescu: worked ok for them. [01:42]
mircea_popescu: toohigh strip clubs are a fucking terrible business. it's ~office management for people who get a lot of dermatitis. [01:43]
toohigh: It can be run as a Gentleman's Club with 100's of beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones. (tm) [01:44]
mircea_popescu: i don't think you appreciate just how lazy even marginal girls are. [01:44]
toohigh: Should invest in Lysol lol [01:44]
danielpbarron: !!v FEFDFF454ACF461BCDAFFAD5EF64E6E3FF73AA12D485BCCA4406CC8628FD7609 [01:45]
deedbot: danielpbarron rated toohigh 1 << l0de fan [01:45]
toohigh: There are two types of women who work at places like that: Ones who show up, do their best, and gtfo. The others show up just to see what they can get into. [01:45]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, went with (same girl that ended up on the hook) to a coupla strip clubs here. holy shit you can't imafgine the horror. half dozen fat ugly mommy bloggers the poles were there, the stripper heels were on their feet, everyone SITTING. nobody dancing. no problem! [01:46]
toohigh: That's the worst [01:47]
mircea_popescu: for three to five dollars in cover you get to watch short people fumble about 1970s interiors. [01:47]
trinque: I assume what's meant by the "brand" is that they put ads on the thing. [01:47]
toohigh: All the old owners are retired or passed on, it's just not the same as the old days [01:47]
trinque: not gonna look that consumer spending horse in the mouth while it's giving the free time to shitpost on IRC [01:47]
mircea_popescu: trinque no. do you recall that discussion of "eulora" but really everything else, http://trilema.com/2016/what-lasts-forever/ ? [01:48]
mircea_popescu: the function of "it's a brand" here is to expand notional valuations into imaginary nonsense. "i am wasting time/resources and i'm not getting anything in return BUT THAT IS OK, because the imagined-castle-in-the-sky is growing!" [01:49]
danielpbarron: !!up r41n [01:50]
deedbot: r41n voiced for 30 minutes. [01:50]
r41n: hi [01:50]
r41n: im back [01:50]
mircea_popescu: toohigh this being costa rica might have something to do with it. last i heard say az was still doing it right. [01:50]
mircea_popescu: r41n make sure you control the key this time. [01:50]
trinque: hm. even worse I could excuse the getting paid. [01:51]
mircea_popescu: that's the problem -- once the fountain of conceptual usg drunk from, weaning is VERY hard. [01:51]
mircea_popescu: we need a socialists anonymous thing. [01:51]
mircea_popescu: otherwise you keep ending up right back there on some "entirely new" path. [01:52]
trinque: really is insanity requiring a hard reset. [01:52]
mircea_popescu: first ground to stand on then reset. otherwise -- right back to "i only just" [01:53]
mircea_popescu: Techman say /query deedbot to open a pm session say !!up in there to it then return !!v the string. [01:54]
mircea_popescu: !!up StarmanDeluxe [01:54]
deedbot: StarmanDeluxe voiced for 30 minutes. [01:54]
mircea_popescu: !!up NoMo [01:54]
deedbot: NoMo voiced for 30 minutes. [01:54]
mircea_popescu: !!up KutmasteR [01:54]
deedbot: KutmasteR voiced for 30 minutes. [01:54]
StarmanDeluxe: Ahoy [01:55]
mircea_popescu: i wrote that kunt like 3x before i figured out why it dun complete.... [01:55]
mircea_popescu: !!up cblgh [01:55]
deedbot: cblgh voiced for 30 minutes. [01:55]
Techman: Thanks [01:56]
trinque: I actually recall cblgh from another den. [01:56]
mircea_popescu: Techman wd. [01:56]
mircea_popescu: trinque oh ? who/s he ? [01:56]
mircea_popescu: !!up douchebag__ [01:57]
deedbot: douchebag__ voiced for 30 minutes. [01:57]
mircea_popescu: got that pic ? [01:57]
trinque: iirc eurosomewhere dude that codes, ended up among a bunch of militantly meaningless portland dudes on irc. [01:57]
douchebag__: ive been trying to verify this account, accidently provided wrong pgp to the last username [01:57]
mircea_popescu: heh [01:58]
douchebag__: with deedbot [01:58]
trinque: you must re-register. [01:58]
douchebag__: i did [01:58]
mircea_popescu: trinque talk about "octet quad too hard". check THIS shit out i expect qualification here actually exceeds cisco qual. [01:58]
Techman: mircea_popescu: l0de is more than likely asleep right now his show ended a while ago [01:58]
Techman: mircea_popescu: wouldn't want you to think that he was ignoring you, etc. [01:59]
mircea_popescu: Techman there's a lot of interest in shortwave here, as per say http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22shortwave%22 i suspect we have a lot to talk about. but can be tomorrow or whatever, there's no rush. [01:59]
trinque: mircea_popescu: the shitposting tics imo leak from inner loop of proving they can do whatever they want. hard then to fall simple instructions the static overwhelms. [02:01]
trinque: *follow [02:02]
mircea_popescu: trinque as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/#selection-39.50-45.12 [02:02]
trinque: yessir [02:03]
r41n: !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/W9tPH/?raw=true [02:03]
deedbot: 10E9967FDE69114DA2DDBAAE6194513F6DF00F69 registered as r41n. [02:03]
mircea_popescu: then alf is gonna wake up and be all "da fuck she cow pig indian candy had kittens!" [02:04]
danielpbarron: !!rate r41n 1 l0de fan [02:05]
trinque: wahaha [02:05]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zHDRL/?raw=true [02:05]
r41n: !!up [02:05]
deedbot: You may not $up yourself. [02:05]
trinque: this is great. deedbot's getting fuzzed [02:06]
danielpbarron: !!v 548F750A56F8883BC90057AD2C4A087007C38127BFC6CEAED5E759CA1BBD8C73 [02:07]
deedbot: danielpbarron rated r41n 1 << l0de fan [02:07]
r41n: !!up [02:07]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lzF8D/?raw=true [02:07]
douchebag__: h [02:07]
r41n: !!v 616BA24A0A5E87321CE0E48D7FA9D6E53E5DC3C816940585710EA28672904E77 [02:08]
deedbot: You are now voiced in #trilema [02:08]
danielpbarron: !!rate douchebag__ 1 l0de fan [02:08]
r41n: I DID IT [02:08]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wkyc7/?raw=true [02:08]
r41n: mircea_popescu: i had to make a different nick but i got it! [02:08]
trinque: wd r41n [02:08]
trinque: are you the rawrchick? [02:09]
danielpbarron: !!v AC9575BA908EC36ACE1EC31EB2EAA3FED176A91DB31BBE30BD2BD6A539738E4C [02:11]
deedbot: danielpbarron rated douchebag__ 1 << l0de fan [02:11]
r41n: weevlos: why you fucking this up brah [02:11]
r41n: FUCKING WEEV [02:11]
trinque: danielpbarron: how far in was your call [02:12]
trinque: ah right at 9:50 [02:15]
danielpbarron: right at the start [02:16]
cazalla: weevlos, nignogs with ghostgunners was some funny shit [02:20]
pete_dushenski: caz! [02:21]
cazalla: hey pete [02:21]
pete_dushenski: how goes ? [02:21]
cazalla: same old, kids doing my head in like usual [02:21]
cazalla: hows yours? [02:21]
pete_dushenski: a (giant) little chatterbox. he's doing well. [02:22]
danielpbarron: !!up toohigh [02:25]
deedbot: toohigh voiced for 30 minutes. [02:25]
cazalla: pete_dushenski, were you having another, or was that someone else? [02:25]
toohigh: President Dr. Donald J Trump is ushering in a new era of economic prosperity for the American Tax Paying Citizens. [02:26]
pete_dushenski: cazalla: i haven't publicly said one way or another, musta been someone else you're thinking of. wasn't ben_vulpes trying ? [02:26]
cazalla: seems like a bunch of rugrats abound [02:27]
pete_dushenski: must be all the optimism in the air [02:28]
trinque: lotta tight vocal chords on this youtube vid. [02:32]
trinque: the nazi faggot claims to have buds in hezbollah, because really, the most transgressive thing you can do is friend controversially on facebook. [02:38]
trinque: hadn't bothered to consider it, but this neonazis with citronella torches thing clicks right into place after suburban white niggers on the escalation game ratchet. [02:41]
* trinque to bed, on that note [02:41]
toohigh: REAL NIGGAS ONLY [02:45]
mircea_popescu: r41n wd. [03:24]
mircea_popescu: trinque citronella torches ? [03:25]
r41n: hi [03:28]
r41n: was just reading 4chan biz [03:28]
r41n: lul [03:28]
mircea_popescu: anything good ? [03:29]
r41n: some memes [03:36]
r41n: nothing too great [03:36]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in hairy arms on the tit shelf, http://78.media.tumblr.com/b7ee036a69b3fe70e635fc1daeb48b68/tumblr_naodugI1CF1tvbvqfo1_400.gif [03:38]
mircea_popescu: an' with that ima see y'all tomorrow. [03:38]
diana_coman: for fun: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/21/eucrypt-correcting-mpi-implementation/#comment-1011 [06:20]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i like that the url has blame in it [08:51]
shinohai: Buena dias, mircea_popescu. Here's hoping there are no forgtten tailor visits this Friday! o/ [08:52]
mircea_popescu: lol have you been neural-networked ? [08:52]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, yeah, the url has blame in it the text there has avoidance in it I'd say, lol [08:53]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the girlz be back, errything's back to normal where by normal we mean i pay no fucking attention and shit just keeps happening by itself around the house. [08:53]
mircea_popescu: i've been trying to get breadcrumbs on the floor to STAY THERE for years now. [08:53]
diana_coman: try them on the ceiling then? might stay THERE [08:54]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman hey, one step at a time! http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1753228 etc [08:54]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 02:55 asciilifeform: hey bureaucrat sees ~everythign~ as usg org chart, climbable, naturally has steps! itmust!! [08:54]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman lol [08:55]
mircea_popescu: in other thank you obamas, i can now buy 1kAmpere (crank) batteries for muh car. this means the damned thing can push out at the very least 14.5 * 1000 * 30 = 435kJoules over half a minute! [09:00]
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for usg spending billions of imaginary dollars for "electric cars"... [09:00]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lipo cell + cap iirc [09:01]
mircea_popescu: nope, this is straight battery. no cap. [09:01]
asciilifeform: nifty [09:01]
mircea_popescu: item itself actually holds 3-5x that, if you're voltage-agnostic. [09:01]
asciilifeform: pretty great for starting yer dirigible's 4 3kHp maybachs... [09:03]
mircea_popescu: AAAAND with a 4.4 kW powerplant... you really can run all the electronics you possibly could conceivably wish to have. [09:03]
* asciilifeform slowly eats log, omfg the aol [09:04]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it's a lipo tho, it's good for mebbe hundred cycles [09:04]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform coupla of the people might well have a clue. [09:04]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah. lead-acid. [09:04]
asciilifeform: uhhh [09:05]
mircea_popescu: I KNOW! [09:05]
asciilifeform: ~dozen then [09:05]
mircea_popescu: naaa. [09:05]
* asciilifeform uses these here [09:05]
mircea_popescu: free replacement 3 year warranty, baby. [09:05]
mircea_popescu: AND it cost like a hundy, which means... where's that trilema with the bug ? [09:05]
asciilifeform: you mentioned cranking tho, as advertised application [09:06]
asciilifeform: that's a hint [09:06]
asciilifeform: they aren't, dollars to doughnuts, warrantied for deepcycling [09:06]
mircea_popescu: well, sparkgap, cranking, what the hell's the difference. [09:06]
asciilifeform: massive diff [09:06]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it doesn't deep cycle over that. [09:06]
asciilifeform: cranking is a few seconds, a few % discharge [09:06]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/entomologykos-4.jpg << here we go. bug buys you a battery! [09:07]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 30 seconds by spec. [09:07]
asciilifeform: use in ups, is deepcycle, potentially 100% discharge [09:07]
asciilifeform: aaaaaa see. [09:07]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the application here was, "gee, how cheap is mobility!" but again : for a zek coin (as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752109 ) you can have 100 of these. serialize them, the half minute becomes eight hours. [09:08]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 02:45 mircea_popescu: technically .5 btc is "more money than zek is pewrmitted to have" as it is. [09:08]
mircea_popescu: A SHIFT! [09:08]
asciilifeform: alltheelectronicsyouwish for 30sec... [09:08]
mircea_popescu: per cockroachcoin [09:08]
asciilifeform: i think 100 of these would fall through my floor [09:09]
mircea_popescu: nah, what, 5kgs each ? ~same as hosting a card trading party. [09:09]
asciilifeform: truck cells ( which is what these are ) also vent H2 when charging [09:09]
shinohai: boom [09:09]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : nerdy ho took me to the nerd's mothership here it dun look much from rthe road, but inside : manga store, comicbook store, toy and figurine store, sushi plant, coffee house, BAR, and highschoolers. [09:10]
mircea_popescu: shares parking with a fucking office depot of all things. [09:10]
mircea_popescu: AAA+++ would be surprised again most unexpected development. [09:10]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is no disadvantage, we were making hydrogen bombs anyway rite ? [09:10]
asciilifeform: not in own submarine's battery deck, ideally [09:11]
mircea_popescu: steampunk is all about pipes. [09:11]
asciilifeform: ( usn lost a bunch to h2 pops, in ww2 ) [09:11]
shinohai: OMG BCRASH!!!! Shit is down -36.53% this morning despite Roger's latest pump. [09:12]
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should put zek in the dictionary huh. [09:12]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gimme the ru notation if oyu have a kbd ready ? [09:13]
asciilifeform: зек [09:14]
mircea_popescu: ty [09:14]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756403 << that's silly people have bookmarks, and otherwise little bits of paper. and phones. and so on. the problem of "memorability" is nil, stop advertising the enemy's tools. use nude ips, explain it's because domain names are made by jews to keep white people down, which isn't even all that false, and there you go. << Aha, seriously. How do you keep chanels open con las chicas [09:14]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 05:18 weevlos: lack of memorability [09:14]
BingoBoingo: sans numeros de telefonos y weird alt-irc's like Whatsapp? [09:14]
asciilifeform: originally abbrev , з/к [09:14]
asciilifeform: заключённый [09:14]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other thank you obamas, i can now buy 1kAmpere (crank) batteries for muh car. this means the damned thing can push out at the very least 14.5 * 1000 * 30 = 435kJoules over half a minute! << AHA, y las baterias por las motocicletas ahora muy pequena [09:16]
mircea_popescu: aha [09:16]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> use in ups, is deepcycle, potentially 100% discharge << No tiene un turbine por su UPS? [09:17]
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756463 <<< How'd I miss this gem last night, coulda had this room fulla traps [09:18]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 05:49 mircea_popescu: oh, 2 bitcent dick pix ? shall we do a today-only special ? [09:18]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Algunas baterias de motocicleta aca son LiPo! [09:18]
mircea_popescu: yeah, lighter. [09:19]
BingoBoingo: Si [09:19]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary/#selection-233.0-247.2 << done. [09:19]
asciilifeform: mucho dinero, BingoBoingo , y muere en 2-3 años [09:19]
mircea_popescu: comments/suggestions welcome. [09:19]
BingoBoingo: But first I still gotta learn to bicicleta, then quizas tengo una Honda Wave o Honda PCX en 2-3 anos [09:20]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform la mayoria de los motos mueren en 2-3 anos y con el motociclista + un amigo! [09:20]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo bmw! [09:20]
mircea_popescu: they invented teh fucken thing, and still own it. [09:20]
mircea_popescu: ducati can stuffit. [09:20]
BingoBoingo: BMW motocicleta demasiado alta para mi. No ergonomico [09:21]
* shinohai thought of BingoBoingo when he saw this: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/tarnacion.jpg [09:21]
shinohai: dunno why [09:21]
mircea_popescu: according to cornmarketcap, bitcoin crash still work like more than a public servant monthly salary. [09:22]
asciilifeform: howsthat [09:22]
mircea_popescu: GS-1 makes 17 to 22k pa. 2140 is > that. [09:23]
asciilifeform: afaik those dun physically exist ( they start at iirc 5-7 in most ministries ) [09:25]
mircea_popescu: hey, dead civ is reconstructed by the books. [09:25]
shinohai: I can't get enough of this Roger Ver ragequit video over "Bcash" xD [09:25]
shinohai: (For those that haven't seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI ) [09:26]
mircea_popescu: can't be arsed to video. summary ? [09:26]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it'll take you A YEAR to make gs2, you know this ? [09:27]
shinohai: tldr he gets his buttons pushed because interviewer calls it "Bcash" instead of "Bitcoin Cash" [09:27]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [09:28]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11191.59, vol: 47229.49783609 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11657.0, vol: 150423.08301224 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11355.0, vol: 9530.65342584 | Volume-weighted last average: 11537.0127915 [09:28]
mircea_popescu: o noes, are we poor now ? [09:28]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only promoted to gs2 if the mops kept in top working order, all halls swept, i suppose [09:29]
BingoBoingo: Quizas? [09:29]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at that level... if not beaten senior mgmt head against wall for a year straight, i expect. [09:29]
asciilifeform: oheyheyheylbj, 'cheap' coinz! [09:29]
asciilifeform: iirc the coinola stolen by usg from btce et al, was scheduled for waterfall , so possibly it, nao. [09:31]
mircea_popescu: if the price wouldn't move how would teh excitable stay excited [09:31]
BingoBoingo: Aha, the context and the laughing! [09:32]
BingoBoingo: In other unconscious association... Montevideo department (department being akin to a province) is abreviated MO, which is Missouri's postal code. At least once a day mi cerebro thinks Uruguay is in Missouri. [09:35]
mircea_popescu: weather just about wet/balmy enough too eh [09:35]
BingoBoingo: Aha, the median summer temperatures and humidity are very similar, but the extremes encountered in the Middle west don't happen as routinely here [09:38]
mircea_popescu: ya [09:38]
BingoBoingo: Come winter the lack of extremes should be still more noticable? Only below 0C en la madrugada! [09:39]
mircea_popescu: no fucking way it gets to freezing there [09:39]
BingoBoingo: The locals insist it happens at least 4 or 5 days a year in the mornings [09:41]
mircea_popescu: i dunno... [09:41]
shinohai: I loved watching teh latino immigrants here a few weekends ago when it snowed. Most have never seen it, so they were all dressed up in layers of NorthFace coats and gloves. [09:41]
BingoBoingo: shinohai: You should have seen the Brasileros y Brasileras at the Hostel for the expocannabis when the cool night wind blew in. Coats, blankets, etc... [09:42]
mircea_popescu: it got windy here a week or two ago. maaaybe dropped as low as 15C briefly. o my teh shivers, teh sads. [09:43]
mircea_popescu: i'd be like "hey, this car got no AC ?" and people would just park on the side of the road, to stare. blinkers on, everything [09:43]
BingoBoingo: Hay mucho veinto aca esta semana. Y entonces hoy, mucho sol fuerte. [09:43]
mircea_popescu: supposedly that's the best way to sundry the gringo : cool wind and strong sun. he'll fry before he knows what boiled frogs are [09:44]
shinohai: I had some weird shit happen to me after my surgery, cold doesn't affect me like that anymore. I generally never wear more than tshort outside around the house. [09:44]
shinohai: *tshirt [09:44]
* BingoBoingo still can't believe how delicious the tap water is here [09:45]
mircea_popescu: ya montevideo had great water. [09:45]
BingoBoingo: And the salus half water half jugo de manzana isn't bad either [09:46]
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the wind/sun combination necessitates mucha agua y mas sunscreen [09:50]
BingoBoingo: If I could have packed again I would have packed less clothing and more electronics. [09:52]
* BingoBoingo probably ought to bake a blog post on the past week's learnings por otro gingos de la republica [09:55]
shinohai: But chinches LOVE electronics BingoBoingo .... would have been a pita to get them out. [09:55]
mircea_popescu: what could it possibru hurt [09:55]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "A bit of walking suggests this is because the locals tend to know very well where they get on and off the bus very well, but" [09:56]
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Only when they are powered up and on. No heat signature, no chinches. [09:56]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty fxd [09:57]
mircea_popescu: and the observation is indeed fine. VERY bus-bound culture in south and central america. between the strange "strong families" where you'll see batshit insanity like 20yo woiman OUT WITH HER MOTHER and, importantly, HIDING IN MOM SKIRTS, and the terrible eg signalling for cars everywhere etc, AND a very land-possessive mentality, most people will simply not go to any new place. [09:58]
mircea_popescu: if they know you there they'll come tro you, but self-power exploration is ~nil. [09:58]
BingoBoingo: AHA [09:58]
mircea_popescu: and the whole "danger" social discourse very much is an artefact of this. [09:58]
mircea_popescu: not to mention the PORTON!! everywhere. looks like they're preparing for imminent alien invasion, these fellows. [09:59]
BingoBoingo: I have heard much "don't go to ciudad vieja en la noche" [09:59]
mircea_popescu: imagine, i have girls going about half naked in stripper heels at like, 3am. scares the shit out of the locals for entirely imaginary reasons [09:59]
BingoBoingo: And what did I see? Idle young males! "OMG idle young males, maybe if I molestar them they just might be roused from idleness!" [10:00]
mircea_popescu: "oh, this is the bad part of town" "Why ?" "i just don't come here very often" "why not ?" "it's the bad part of town" [10:00]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo exactly. [10:00]
mircea_popescu: "dude... flock of seagulls wrecked into the sidewalk over there couldn't get it up if i paid him to." [10:01]
shinohai: Lessee, I've been here almost every day for the past ~3+ years and don't ever recall an extended server outage on irc, yet this alt-irc telegram I'm forced to use with the girls goes down at least twice monthly. [10:02]
mircea_popescu: there's this formative moment in every pornographer's life (or at least, every pornographer worth his salt's life) where he's driving around a partybus fulla naked sluts and tries to pick up jocks from the street to fuck 'em. except... can't. even if they get in, which is a 1:10 shot at best, they can't really get it up and if they do it lasts half a minute and happens in the camera-unfriendliest manner possible. [10:02]
BingoBoingo: In James Lafond presents St Louis, Missouri all the idle young males would have been darker and tried provoking me to action with their racial slurs. Here, idle means idle [10:02]
mircea_popescu: (which is another massive giveaway of "leaked" sex tapes. bitch, that's not how accidental filmed fucking looks like.) [10:02]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i suspect portion of james lafond presents james lafond might be dramatization for the screen. [10:03]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, sure. But I've met quite a few young abogados estadounidense who went drinking in St Louis and got quite the beating after responding to racial slurs in kind [10:04]
mircea_popescu: so did they respond to beating in kind ? [10:04]
mircea_popescu: this is how lower class makes friends, neh ? eternal and unmoved, first you cuss each other out, then you duke it out, then you're friends for life. [10:05]
BingoBoingo: Outnumbered and had the problem on having had the money for liquor, [10:05]
mircea_popescu: yeah, that numbers bs... it's sad, really. [10:05]
BingoBoingo: They went to law school, barriers of their minds, etc [10:05]
* mircea_popescu personally spent half hour at age 15 trying to find the most effectual insults for this dude a mutual friend had just introduced we were best friends after that! [10:06]
BingoBoingo: Perhaps it was their first time getting punched? [10:06]
mircea_popescu: but in the usg sadlands... well... http://trilema.com/2011/are-you-a-muslim/#selection-115.0-115.526 [10:07]
mircea_popescu: which is a damned shame. [10:07]
* BingoBoingo will bake blog post after tarea [10:07]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i have nfi why ANYTHING ELSE is deemed virginity in males. this. this right here. bitch, take a punch now and again, it's good for you. [10:07]
BingoBoingo: It's the primary value of having brothers [10:08]
mircea_popescu: or friends. [10:08]
mircea_popescu: or you know, a town, a country. [10:08]
BingoBoingo: That too, but brothers prepares one for friends, prepares one for town, prepares one for country [10:09]
mircea_popescu: i guess so huh [10:10]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo o hey, so you got a local gf basically ? [10:12]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: So it appears [10:13]
mircea_popescu: cool deal. [10:13]
BingoBoingo: My spanish isn't quite good enough to be entirely sure [10:13]
mircea_popescu: nor most people's english, or w/e their mom spoke. [10:13]
BingoBoingo: AHa [10:13]
BingoBoingo: Anywas, it is good she is in Las Piedras and tiene trabajar, so I have time to get shit done [10:14]
mircea_popescu: very vaguely in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756072 : holy shit nobody thought that getinfo should include A TIMESTAMP ? whatr sort of broken minds come up with this crap! [10:15]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 17:38 mircea_popescu: anyway, continuing the trinque discussion, it seems entirely unavoidable that trb will become 3 things : a wallet node, optimized for pumping out local signed tx a block node, optimized for keeping the blockchain, getting blocks, no mempool nonsense and a spy node, optimized to keeping track of the lies and nonsense flowing through the relay network (mempool, timing nodes, what have you). [10:15]
mircea_popescu: and it's entirely symptomatic and representative. whole fucking steaming pile of shit was designed, or rather, "designed" by a bright idiot who was capable to compose an info screen without a timestamp on it. [10:15]
mircea_popescu: hole fucking thing EXISTS, in the first place, AS A HUMONGOUS AND HUMONGOUSLY EXPENSIVE CLOCK! but why bother. [10:17]
shinohai: What do yo say to the girl with 2 black eyes? Nothing, she already been told twice. [10:26]
mircea_popescu: reading http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756758 i was instantly reminded of http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#comment-117906 [10:39]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 11:20 diana_coman: for fun: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/21/eucrypt-correcting-mpi-implementation/#comment-1011 [10:39]
mircea_popescu: that's a spakin' model, innit! [10:39]
* mircea_popescu is glad he put the time into it back then, because today couldn't be arsed. [10:39]
diana_coman: ahaha, I admit I wouldn't put the time into modelling it to that degree [10:48]
mircea_popescu: ikr? [10:49]
mircea_popescu: i'm a total waster. [10:49]
mircea_popescu: nevertheless it's a good model, and so there we go. [10:49]
asciilifeform: 'This bug has been with us since the version 0.0.0 of GnuPG' << lol!! [10:59]
mircea_popescu: i think PART of the problem is poor code-doodle separation. [11:00]
mircea_popescu: the fact that it was not used in mpi anything might be an indication orig author just included some notes for later and forgot to mark them for anyone else. [11:01]
asciilifeform: was used tho [11:01]
asciilifeform: and, as diana_coman describes, its brokenness artfully painted over [11:01]
mircea_popescu: where ? [11:02]
asciilifeform: grep for q = mpi_copy( nminus1 ) [11:03]
asciilifeform: i.e. discussion of the 'paint'. [11:03]
asciilifeform: mpi_tdiv_q_2exp is in fact used in primegen.c , but in such a way that its brokenness doesn't affect the output , 'accidentally' [11:05]
mircea_popescu: it's used in key primality testing but not otherwise. [11:05]
asciilifeform: right [11:05]
mircea_popescu: right. [11:05]
mircea_popescu: i suppose my point is muchly weakened by the evident effort at a cover-up [11:06]
mircea_popescu: but still, in principle. somewhere else, in a galaxy far away... [11:06]
asciilifeform: that was asciilifeform's point. the 'mens rea' is screamingly there [11:06]
asciilifeform: not 'doodles', nope. [11:06]
asciilifeform: the doodles thing might apply to some of shitoshi's warcrimes. but not here. [11:07]
mircea_popescu: so fucking epic, "this was fixed four years ago so SIXTEEN YEARS of it being not fixed thereby went away" [11:08]
mircea_popescu: femthink, "i finally got a husband, so it dun matter i'm 48 anymore" [11:08]
mircea_popescu: JUST AS MARRIED AS ALL THE OTHERS [11:08]
asciilifeform: astonishing liquishit, and it takes quite a bit to astonish asciilifeform [11:17]
asciilifeform: complete with pile of c macros [11:17]
asciilifeform: ( i cut out 10 pounds for each 1 remaining, but naturally could not cut into the living meat , principle was 'what is actually called in gpg' ) [11:18]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756749 << you know, the 'ctrl-alt-right' version of the 'occupy wall street' hipsters. They go down to the $walmart and buy bakers dozen of those anti-mosquito 'tiki torches' people use at bbqs, then go $downtown and 'protest' something or other while calling themselves 'neo-nazis' or somesuch [11:37]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 08:25 mircea_popescu: trinque citronella torches ? [11:37]
mircea_popescu: but why the anti mosquito item ? [11:38]
mircea_popescu: oh wait, only accessible (at walmart, won't go to jail fgor using) yet still vaguely recognizable torch ersatz ? [11:38]
lobbes: Exactly [11:39]
mircea_popescu: christ on a fucking cracker! [11:39]
mircea_popescu: how about overturn police car, empty govt employee innards, replace skin with gasoline from tank, burn that ? [11:40]
mircea_popescu: skull torches! [11:40]
lobbes: That'd require crossing the threshold of doing something other than declaring "I am x" [11:41]
mircea_popescu: o right, little girls would have to cross into manhood ? ONOES [11:41]
lobbes: Oya, much safer to keep "controversial" facebook phriends from comfort of mom's basement (which, amusingly, not safe at all as Facebook is honeypot, but whatevs) [11:43]
mircea_popescu: in other notes to the self, I was recently looking desperately for that discussion of the static/dynamic infantile error, but gave up in frustration. neverhteless, here it is : http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#selection-221.55-225.273 [11:45]
mircea_popescu: "The infantile mind doesn't go away. It just withdraws." [11:46]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in goxologies, https://archive.is/fFman [12:09]
asciilifeform: from same rag, meanwhile, 'Warren Buffett's top lieutenant, Charlie Munger, is a bitcoin skeptic. Munger was asked for his views on cryptocurrencies during a University of Michigan's Ross School of Business event. "I think it is perfectly asinine to even pause to think about them," Munger said. "It's bad people, crazy bubble, bad idea, luring people into the concept of easy wealth without much insight or work. That's the last thing o [12:11]
asciilifeform: n Earth you should think about … There's just a whole lot of things that aren't going to work for you. Figure out what they are and avoid them like the plague. And one of them is bitcoin. … It is total insanity."' [12:11]
asciilifeform: didjaknow!! [12:11]
asciilifeform: and , on top of this , [12:12]
asciilifeform: 'You know it is one thing to think gold has some marvelous store of value because man has no way of inventing more gold or getting it very easily, so it has the advantage of rarity. Believe me, man is capable of somehow creating more bitcoin. … They tell you there are rules and they can't do it. Don't believe them. When there is enough incentive, bad things will happen.' [12:12]
asciilifeform: ( sores, for the dedicated entomologist : https://archive.is/TMSQ3 ) [12:13]
mircea_popescu: he'd better be. [12:17]
asciilifeform: hm? [12:17]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol why is cnn listing coinbase prices in 4 digits ? [12:17]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform charlie munger'd better be scared of bitcoin. [12:18]
* mircea_popescu waves at weevlos [12:18]
weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal [12:18]
weevlos: mircea_popescu: emily youcis is working with sam hyde on an animated project [12:18]
mircea_popescu: weevlos that's fucking stupid, the media game. sooner or later you either become cnn or get bought by cnn. but humour me, how much does this "media publication" thing pay ? [12:19]
asciilifeform: !#s rezistenta prin cultura [12:19]
a111: 3 results for "rezistenta prin cultura", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=rezistenta%20prin%20cultura [12:19]
BingoBoingo: weevlos: La gente normal esta aca. No esta aca, no gente normal. [12:19]
weevlos: it pays more than any job i've had since the feds showed up in my life [12:19]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "no es normal". [12:19]
mircea_popescu: weevlos will not be specific ? [12:19]
weevlos: it pays me a couple thousand dollars worth of monero per month [12:19]
weevlos: generally [12:19]
BingoBoingo: gracias [12:19]
weevlos: plus extra tips from readers and viewers [12:20]
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all [12:20]
weevlos: which is variable, the best month i think i did 6 BTC [12:20]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13251.09, vol: 52151.12940279 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 12640.0, vol: 163425.22659539 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 12950.0, vol: 10389.209106 | Volume-weighted last average: 12795.2877691 [12:20]
weevlos: generally it will be at least another thousand dollars ish [12:21]
weevlos: and i live in an area where the average salary is $170 a month, it is real money here [12:21]
mircea_popescu: weevlos suppose i pay you 12`795 in cash to a) ditch the "domain name" and use IP permanently replace whatever ads you have with trilema links and never EVER link anything from the usg empire again. [12:21]
mircea_popescu: and we can revisit this discussion in three months. [12:21]
mircea_popescu: how about that ? [12:21]
weevlos: 1) that's not my call to make, i am only one employee [12:21]
asciilifeform: oh here it begins... [12:22]
weevlos: 2) thats only close to a month of operations budget [12:22]
mircea_popescu: that's unfortunate. who owns the item then ? [12:22]
BingoBoingo: lol coffee meets battleship [12:22]
weevlos: andrew anglin [12:22]
mircea_popescu: so send him over, maybe we can work something out. [12:22]
mircea_popescu: the current "i'm trying to make a non-cnn cnn" thing is doomed to fail and in the process waste your lives. [12:22]
weevlos: maybe, we are having a lot of fun with it [12:22]
weevlos: and it pays bills in meantime [12:23]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform worst comes to worst, suddenly conde nast or w/e usg.microsoft in the space suddenly decides it always wanted to spend some paper millions. [12:23]
asciilifeform: for what do we need an n-th koch [12:24]
mircea_popescu: i have nfi. [12:24]
asciilifeform: imho plenty of kochs to go around. [12:24]
shinohai: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1513961913273.png <<< This hilariousness [12:24]
asciilifeform: dafuq is that , shinohai [12:25]
mircea_popescu: dun load. [12:25]
shinohai: It's some sort of segwit spam floating around chans .... says "Stop using non-segwit wallets" [12:26]
mircea_popescu: heh mkay. [12:26]
shinohai: Uploaded here: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/segwit.png [12:26]
mircea_popescu: let me guess, your not following usg.bitcoin "official" trunk makes charlie munger's wishful thinking that harder to "come true" ? [12:26]
mircea_popescu: lel. good thind 3addresses aren't accepted most places with actual money to spend. [12:27]
shinohai: Someone did a giveaway thread last night, another anon posted an addy - got bits sent - then rekt when he realized "I posted mah Bcash wallet" [12:28]
mircea_popescu: why ? can use same keys neh ? [12:29]
shinohai: Yeah, but derp was using blokechain webwallet, so not a real BTC client. [12:31]
mircea_popescu: ahaha [12:31]
BingoBoingo: lol [12:31]
shinohai: afaik you can sweep keys and even export from blockchain, but is pita. No easy way to export any keys from there. [12:32]
mircea_popescu: ya [12:33]
shinohai: I imagine the whole point of "difficult to export keyz" and "adding Bcrash and mETH support" is to help liberate derps from their real coin. [12:40]
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/22/essential-survival-spanish-for-the-disoriented-gringo/ << Bingo Blog - Essential Survival Spanish For The Disoriented Gringo [12:51]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incistently lol [13:16]
mircea_popescu: anywya, como anda, que me dices, variation is available. [13:18]
mircea_popescu: occulude lmao [13:18]
mircea_popescu: !!up BigTexasBingo [13:21]
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes. [13:21]
BigTexasBingo: Gracias, will correct after getting some sun on my pasty self [13:21]
mircea_popescu: no rush [13:21]
BigTexasBingo: Por la chica. [13:22]
BigTexasBingo: Says she was robbed today getting off the bus. Will see how she plays this, if scammy direction there's ~1 million other datable girls within 40 km [13:24]
BigTexasBingo: Apparently a mundane bag snatching [13:25]
BigTexasBingo: Which nearly happened to me on day 2, so could be credible [13:26]
shinohai: BigTexasBingo: does Uruguay allow for concealed carry? [13:32]
BigTexasBingo: "allow" is a very flexible word here [13:35]
BigTexasBingo: Brb [13:35]
asciilifeform: !!up indiancandy1 [13:47]
deedbot: indiancandy1 voiced for 30 minutes. [13:47]
indiancandy1: where is shino [13:48]
indiancandy1: thaks ascii [13:48]
trinque: yknow if you type the whole name, it highlights them even. [13:52]
trinque: better yet, type some, hit tab! [13:52]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, did anyone know GS-* folk captive at work are stuck interneting via https://data.maryland.gov/browse ? [13:58]
asciilifeform: wassat [13:59]
mircea_popescu: (leaving aside how maryland.gov uses a cert that doesn't cover maryland.gov lol) [13:59]
asciilifeform: loox like a md item, naught to do with fed 'gs' [13:59]
mircea_popescu: i thought everyone around the dc cancer was a federal employee. [13:59]
asciilifeform: nope. for instance university plankton are stateemployees [14:00]
mircea_popescu: that must suck. [14:00]
asciilifeform: it sucketh mightily [14:00]
asciilifeform: ( though i suppose depends whom, tenured prof's feudal throne sucks , i suppose, least ) [14:01]
mircea_popescu: do they even give out tenures anymore ? [14:01]
mircea_popescu: or is it by now entirely fossilized carrot of vhs-usa [14:01]
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: Que tal? [14:03]
indiancandy1: i think u should become a senator [14:03]
indiancandy1: mp [14:03]
indiancandy1: i think you would be a great leader [14:03]
BingoBoingo: Senator would be a demotion for mircea_popescu [14:03]
trinque: d'aww [14:03]
indiancandy1: he cant run for president [14:03]
indiancandy1: his not american [14:03]
BingoBoingo: President, also a demotion [14:03]
indiancandy1: but i think he has the right personaloty [14:04]
indiancandy1: personality [14:04]
indiancandy1: or maybe he should turn romania to the new germany [14:04]
indiancandy1: challenge yes [14:04]
indiancandy1: but i belive you can do it [14:04]
BingoBoingo: Eh, president doesn't have much power. More effective to be anti-president. It's a resistance of the medium sort of thing [14:04]
indiancandy1: build the economy of romania [14:05]
indiancandy1: create a strong defense [14:05]
indiancandy1: put us balkans on the map [14:05]
indiancandy1: lol [14:05]
indiancandy1: just a thought [14:05]
indiancandy1: bingoboingo hello [14:05]
indiancandy1: @bingoboingo sorry gia sou [14:06]
BingoBoingo: lol, todo bien [14:06]
shinohai: Oh hai indiancandy1 [14:06]
indiancandy1: are you american bingo [14:07]
indiancandy1: shino u got time now? [14:08]
shinohai: Sure, sign back in as Sofia and we'll get you squared away. [14:08]
indiancandy1: okay [14:08]
mircea_popescu: aaand in other hot chicks hardware, http://ucanr.edu/blogs/anrnews/index.cfm?tagname=google.org [14:09]
BingoBoingo: !~later tell indiancandy1 I am a poor refugee child [14:09]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. [14:09]
shinohai: !!up sofiababy [14:10]
deedbot: sofiababy voiced for 30 minutes. [14:10]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hilariously, asciilifeform's been to the national '4h' hq [14:10]
mircea_popescu: anything good ? [14:10]
asciilifeform: ( there was a wholly unrelated event there , many many yrs ago ) [14:10]
BingoBoingo: Ah, alt boyscouts [14:10]
asciilifeform: lotta pictures of 'prize' farm animals etc [14:11]
asciilifeform: on the walls. [14:11]
asciilifeform: very 'agronomist'-flavoured . [14:11]
BingoBoingo: They have a strong presence at every rural county fair [14:11]
asciilifeform: some of the oldest halls at uni of md had similar flavour, even smell, decour, etc. until recently torn down [14:11]
sofiababy: are you american bingo [14:13]
BingoBoingo: sofiababy: I am a refugee [14:13]
sofiababy: from? [14:13]
BingoBoingo: Estados Unidos [14:13]
sofiababy: where did you take refuge [14:13]
BingoBoingo: A paradise that Brazilians and other residents of vacation destinations vacation to [14:14]
BingoBoingo: Es muy tranquilo aca. [14:15]
sofiababy: my spanish is very bad im greek [14:15]
BingoBoingo: No mucho gringos aca. [14:15]
BingoBoingo: sofiababy: The only way to learn it is to use it. [14:15]
sofiababy: i agree well il learn spanish if you learn swahilli [14:15]
BingoBoingo: Who could I talk to in Swahili, and who said I knew spanish? [14:16]
sofiababy: i speak swahili [14:16]
BingoBoingo: With whom? [14:16]
sofiababy: i grew up in africa [14:16]
BingoBoingo: When's the last time you spoke swahili? [14:17]
sofiababy: living in london i dont speak it anymore no one to speak wit it [14:17]
mircea_popescu: man this is getting tedious. [14:17]
mircea_popescu: !!down sofiababy [14:17]
asciilifeform: aaah [14:17]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757073 << in living memory it's been a rarity. approx as many tenures issued , per yr, as senatorships [14:17]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 19:01 mircea_popescu: do they even give out tenures anymore ? [14:17]
mircea_popescu: good thing nobody told the subretard kids, they still chase it as a life choice. [14:18]
asciilifeform: ~same odds as in pro sport [14:18]
mircea_popescu: "what's worse than being really really dumb ? being a really really smart american." [14:18]
asciilifeform: and there's no shortage of would-be footballists [14:18]
BingoBoingo: Eh, failed footballist usually at least good for work in the trades [14:21]
BingoBoingo: failed academist good for ??? [14:21]
asciilifeform: and failed tenurist... well, depending on what kind. [14:21]
mircea_popescu: generally they end up cloggiong the start-up "market" [14:21]
asciilifeform: naaah [14:21]
asciilifeform: those want youngsters. [14:21]
* mircea_popescu has observed this, 3 idiots around a table, "hey, we were educated at $ivy-league, we should be able to come up with something". [14:22]
asciilifeform: ( sometimes yes, end up in sv, but as active perpetrators of scamola, rather than foot-soldiers ) [14:22]
mircea_popescu: you think of sv in terms of what the andressen-graham-etc scammers ADVERTISE [14:22]
mircea_popescu: not in the sense of what is. [14:22]
mircea_popescu: what is, very much deadbeat 30yo+ couldn't make tenure, by bulk. a case of "your friennd wioth blood sweart and tears" nonsense. [14:26]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/#selection-99.0-99.63 sorta deal. it's very fundamental this, "they told us this is the premiere science and engineering place IN THE WORLD!!! how come we can't compete with an average teenager ?" [14:28]
mircea_popescu: similarily and in the same vein, most waitresses in LA planning their acting career are neither hot nor young. [14:28]
BingoBoingo: Very much this [14:29]
BingoBoingo: Startup and acting career planning tend to happen after the possibility of fun has burnt up [14:29]
mircea_popescu: by mass, people "with an idea" and "a team" looking "for venture capital" are neither smart nor young nor actually part of a team or sitting on an idea nor anything else. it's a popular activity, so they're by and large ~= man on the street. [14:30]
r41n: is it time to sell bch? [14:33]
r41n: i think im going to wait until 2018 [14:33]
r41n: since its only a few days away [14:33]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [14:33]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13200.19, vol: 52635.54178735 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 12906.0, vol: 165145.17139515 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 13437.9, vol: 10493.4662906 | Volume-weighted last average: 12998.2851845 [14:33]
BingoBoingo: r41n: There are two kinds of surprises. What and When. [14:34]
r41n: morning mircea_popescu [14:34]
r41n: BingoBoingo: i was thinking turning it into usd but if i turn it into btc i guess it doesnt matter [14:34]
BingoBoingo: r41n: Aha, that's how you leverage what to hedge against when. [14:35]
r41n: i have a few different coins, but i just got into cryto this year [14:35]
r41n: i was mad that i didnt get into btc when it was 25 cents or mine it, but once it started getting up to like $400 i decided it was time to get over that stupid shit [14:35]
BingoBoingo: The only thing that could be too conveient is hitting 100,000 too soon [14:36]
asciilifeform: lol apparently asciilifeform's neighbour od'd [14:36]
BingoBoingo: *too inconvenient [14:36]
trinque: congrats asciilifeform ! [14:36]
asciilifeform: cops , ceremonies, whole orchestra [14:36]
trinque: maybe better neighbor next time. [14:36]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AHA. Another thing not missed [14:36]
asciilifeform: hey it ain't my problem... [14:37]
BingoBoingo: It could be your problem if the next one isn't found before they smell [14:37]
asciilifeform: oh hm loox like it was ~guest~ of neighbour [14:40]
r41n: this chan is p much 100% btc right? [14:41]
BingoBoingo: r41n: Depends on what you are taking percent of [14:41]
asciilifeform: r41n: nope, it's about noncommutative algebras, btc is 3 doors down [14:41]
BingoBoingo: r41n: Quien es su padre y Que lo hacer El? [14:43]
r41n: BingoBoingo: idk never met him [14:45]
r41n: i was rasied by an engineer though [14:45]
r41n: i only ask bc i have a few shitcoins [14:45]
BingoBoingo: Ah, smart man su padre [14:45]
r41n: me or who raised me? [14:45]
mircea_popescu: trinque it is rare that od'ing neighbour is replaced with improved version. [14:46]
BingoBoingo: r41n: It rarely hurts in a meaningful way to unload shitcoins for whatever bitcoin can be had [14:46]
mircea_popescu: r41n http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736549 [14:46]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 16:48 mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future. [14:46]
r41n: mircea_popescu: right on [14:48]
r41n: BingoBoingo: actually someone was pushing eth on me, so far its been a solid investment, i tired a few others, wish i had kept it all in btc now [14:49]
r41n: however what i have in shitcoins isnt enough to bother to exchange for me rn honestly [14:49]
r41n: now does seem like the time to invest more into btc though [14:50]
mircea_popescu: do you work ? [14:51]
r41n: yes [14:52]
mircea_popescu: doing what ? [14:52]
r41n: it technician [14:52]
mircea_popescu: like laying utp cable and shit ? [14:53]
r41n: no, i work for a small company, i make sure everyone's shit is running [14:53]
mircea_popescu: a [14:53]
r41n: i write policies [14:53]
r41n: dabble into our infrastructure a bit [14:53]
r41n: i do a lot of random things [14:53]
r41n: small company = get a lot of random shit put on your plate [14:54]
r41n: i like it though, everyone i work with is cool [14:56]
BingoBoingo: In other death throes: "In its latest attempt to rejoin the rest of us in the Tinder era, dating site OkCupid is getting rid of usernames. That’s not shocking at a time when online anonymity isn’t just an occasional annoyance but a legitimate threat to democracy, but it is curious in one way: In its blog post announcing the change, OkCupid seemed to go out of its way to mock its own users." [15:04]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: sores? [15:09]
mircea_popescu: r41n so how did you avoid pantsuit trap ? [15:14]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/datamarylandgov/ << Trilema - data.maryland.gov [15:34]
mod6: weird [15:44]
asciilifeform: holyfuq there's several MB (!!) of js in'ere [15:50]
asciilifeform: betcha there's a miner, dropped in by conniving chair-warmer [15:51]
asciilifeform: ( why use ~this~ type of delivery, i cannot say ) [15:51]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756696 sort of reminds me of this guy at burning man, he was a chubby dude, running around completely naked, probably rolling hard, telling everyone how "oh my god, i can do anything i want!!1". the average reaction was, that's good, honey, but be a dear and keep your ballsack away from my face, there you go [15:51]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 07:01 trinque: mircea_popescu: the shitposting tics imo leak from inner loop of proving they can do whatever they want. hard then to fall simple instructions the static overwhelms. [15:51]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756759 << the terminology comes from the name of the git command, which annotates each line with it's source commit. naturally there's also a vocal minority arguing for the command to be renamed [15:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 13:51 mircea_popescu: diana_coman i like that the url has blame in it [15:59]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756823 << abbrev has a funny history: "заключенный красноармеец" because of early soviet labour army experiments, later renamed to "заключенный каналоармеец", i.e. builder of беломорканал, to make it more politically correct. initially the abbrev had implications of forced labour specifically, but only later was generally applied to all prisoners. (probably bec [16:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 14:14 asciilifeform: originally abbrev , з/к [16:09]
phf: ause forced labour became pervasive during stalin) [16:09]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757027 << why does it have a picture of varg vikernes? [16:35]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:24 shinohai: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1513961913273.png <<< This hilariousness [16:35]
shinohai: I suppose "stop using non-segwit wallets or I'll burn your church down" [16:37]
phf: aah, i get it [16:40]
Techman: Phew Bitcoin going back up [16:41]
* shinohai waves at mod6 [16:49]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: sores? << WaPo [16:50]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [16:50]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 14422.39, vol: 54932.64668411 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13690.0, vol: 170341.62621276 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14385.2, vol: 10663.6731266 | Volume-weighted last average: 13891.9408385 [16:50]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757221 << dunforget... забайкальский комсомолец ! [17:10]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 21:09 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756823 << abbrev has a funny history: "заключенный красноармеец" because of early soviet labour army experiments, later renamed to "заключенный каналоармеец", i.e. builder of беломорканал, to make it more politically correct. initially the abbrev had implications of forced labour specifically, but only later was generally applied to all prisoners. (probably bec [17:10]
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757215 Then there is when the whole premise of you coin is this type of spamola >>> http://archive.is/lOy8f [17:31]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 20:51 asciilifeform: betcha there's a miner, dropped in by conniving chair-warmer [17:31]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron your memorabilitiem was sent earlier. [17:40]
mod6: how goes shinohai ? [17:45]
shinohai: Good here, rainy evening + hot tea and reading. You? [17:46]
mod6: not much. lookin at v stuffs [17:49]
* asciilifeform working on unexpectedly massive ffa-series piece [17:49]
shinohai: Cool, feel free to otr me if you need another pair of eyes to test stuff this eve/weekend. [17:49]
mod6: thanks shinohai [17:50]
shinohai: np anytime! [17:52]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757216 << it's the question though, i don't see any sort of self-delusion path that'd incentivize the behaviour. quo fucking prodest ? [18:22]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 20:51 asciilifeform: ( why use ~this~ type of delivery, i cannot say ) [18:22]
* asciilifeform still can't think of anything like a hypothesis for this [18:23]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757217 << amusingly, there was an always-naked, almost-spherical, older dude at bsas bdsm club. harmless, really, just wanted to spectate from a corner and jack off now and again [18:23]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 20:51 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756696 sort of reminds me of this guy at burning man, he was a chubby dude, running around completely naked, probably rolling hard, telling everyone how "oh my god, i can do anything i want!!1". the average reaction was, that's good, honey, but be a dear and keep your ballsack away from my face, there you go [18:23]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the null hypothesis being, i guess, that by now it's 100% falsified. [18:23]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757219 << no, i know. it's just... funny they thought it was a joke. [18:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 20:59 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756759 << the terminology comes from the name of the git command, which annotates each line with it's source commit. naturally there's also a vocal minority arguing for the command to be renamed [18:25]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757228 << long term it's inevitable. [18:27]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 21:41 Techman: Phew Bitcoin going back up [18:27]
mircea_popescu: !#s "micon" [18:51]
a111: 339 results for "\"micon\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22micon%22 [18:51]
mircea_popescu: dude what ever happened to this other roger ver ? [18:51]
mircea_popescu: iirc was the bigger one back when [18:52]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/ho-tel/ << Trilema - Ho-tel [18:52]
shinohai: !!up joecool [18:52]
deedbot: joecool voiced for 30 minutes. [18:52]
joecool: hey [18:54]
joecool: any way i can have my decrypt subkey changed on the bot? [18:54]
joecool: that or sign a message instead like i do for gribble [18:54]
shinohai: Will have to ask trinque when he is available joecool [18:55]
mircea_popescu: you can change it if you still control it yes. [18:55]
joecool: mircea_popescu: I do, it's in another physical location [18:56]
mircea_popescu: i dun recall what the procedure is, does it let you !!register the new one ? (as in, spits out a v string ?) [18:57]
joecool: i'll have to check it in a couple days when i can get the other key out of storage [18:57]
joecool: unless being able to sign with my primary key is enough [18:58]
mircea_popescu: what is primary key here ? [18:59]
joecool: F495E1D1 [19:01]
mircea_popescu: !!key joecool [19:01]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/D7570DDF7F8527E085A6CBA44A169504F495E1D1.asc [19:01]
mircea_popescu: so you can sign with it but not decrypt ?! [19:01]
joecool: correct, for whatever reason this smartcard would not allow me to import my other subkeys [19:02]
joecool: so i have two encryption subkeys on my uid [19:02]
mircea_popescu: i c. will want to hear what trinque says on this. [19:03]
joecool: in gribble's case i have the choice between eauth/everify (requires that I decrypt) and auth/verify (requires signing) [19:04]
mircea_popescu: aha [19:05]
shinohai: Ah ty mircea_popescu ... slowly making these linguistical connections. [19:13]
mircea_popescu: :p [19:13]
shinohai: It warms my heart then to know you are who you are, and likely are shocking their puritan sensibilities. [19:13]
shinohai: iffn they had any xD [19:14]
mircea_popescu: whose ? [19:14]
shinohai: "some antecessor was a priest" [19:15]
shinohai: !!up douchebag__ [19:22]
deedbot: douchebag__ voiced for 30 minutes. [19:22]
douchebag__: h [19:22]
mircea_popescu: eh, i'm sure he'll be fine. eastern church a lot less hysterical, and besides, what's the big deal ? female slavery was the tradition anyway. [19:23]
mircea_popescu: as per thomas, i'll repent later when it costs me nothing anyway. [19:23]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [19:49]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13750.0, vol: 57572.58293619 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 12950.0, vol: 178993.591425 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 13810.8, vol: 11013.9840011 | Volume-weighted last average: 13174.326958 [19:49]
BingoBoingo: the thrashing [19:49]
shinohai: aha it always seemed to me the Eastern tradition had a more acute grasp of the human condition. [20:00]
mircea_popescu: in other news, woody allen is like the WORST diletante moviemaker ever. [20:09]
mircea_popescu: who the fuck thought this schmuck may be permitted to waste the celluloid ? [20:09]
BingoBoingo: Pedophiles thought? [20:14]
mircea_popescu: what, cuz he fucked that ugly azn kid his dumb wife imported for the purpose ? [20:19]
mircea_popescu: pedophilia should not imply bad taste. [20:19]
BingoBoingo: Not him, his funders. [20:19]
mircea_popescu: i thought the state of new york/federal budget were mostly funding his flailing. [20:20]
mircea_popescu: oh. [20:20]
BingoBoingo: Well yeah, funding him makes them respectable [20:20]
mircea_popescu: i see. [20:20]
BingoBoingo: Hay Clintons en Nuevo York! [20:20]
shinohai: What happened to indiancandy, in here offering nigger language lessons. [20:41]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-167.163-167.231 basically. [20:48]
trinque: !!up joecool [20:53]
deedbot: joecool voiced for 30 minutes. [20:53]
joecool: Hey, I’ll be back in a little bit but you probably saw the log [20:54]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757276 << kinda iffy on how to handle this. if I understand, you've got one subkey with you the default deedbot's gpg wants to use is not with you. [20:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 00:02 joecool: correct, for whatever reason this smartcard would not allow me to import my other subkeys [20:55]
trinque: in the past I have only ever made *any* changes to the deedbot keychain if the person can prove control of both keys, old and new. [20:55]
trinque: my preference is to not end up with some sort of complex "policy" around how deedbot should interact with gpg. [20:56]
shinohai: Is lamport parachute accepted method to you trinque ? [21:07]
shinohai: ( otherwise shinohai does not know for what purpose this exercise was done! ) [21:10]
trinque: !!up BigTexasBingo [21:16]
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes. [21:16]
BigTexasBingo: In other updates. Chica not requesting an assistance related to the bag snatching, but wants to cook dinner. Uruguay, fuck yeah! [21:16]
trinque: shinohai: whatever ends up being ok, the ok list needs to get defined and permanently bound. [21:18]
shinohai: true [21:18]
trinque: I've helped people work around the gpg idiocy in the past (expiration dates) because.. gpg idiocy. [21:18]
BigTexasBingo: It also matters what key signed the parachute [21:19]
shinohai: no need for bickering VIII: The Kochaclypse [21:19]
shinohai: *bickening [21:19]
trinque: just pointing out that I might be corrupting the youfs by not taking a firmer line on "put a sane single key into deedbot and always have it, or proceed by the *only* mechanism to change key, or die" [21:20]
trinque: it's a rot that flows from relying on gpg, and I've thus far considered that tightening around asciilifeform's P is the appropriate time for it. [21:21]
BigTexasBingo: From gpg from gribble auth, from a whole lot of accumulated trash [21:22]
BigTexasBingo: Brb, done hacer pupu [21:22]
trinque: anyhow, there's no signing auth mechanism, and I don't want to feature creep the thing. I will however change a key for anybody that demonstrates control of both. [21:32]
shinohai: feature creep kill gribble so yeah [21:33]
trinque: the relationship to the wallet is also important to consider. wallet and deedbot do not share state, beyond deedbot initially communicating a (key, nick) pair to wallet. at that time, of course, the wallet is empty. [21:38]
trinque: "update" is always way more dangerous than "insert" eh? [21:39]
shinohai: to me beauty of your lispbot framework, its easier to keep things contained. i admit has been a bit daunting so far attempting to port all this crap from python. [22:05]
shinohai: ihavenoideawhatimdoing.exe [22:05]
shinohai: http://archive.is/36sPq << Shall we send conbase http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institutions-a-guide/ ? [22:37]
asciilifeform: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757328 , today's ffa-series item will appear tomorrow, apparently was too big a bite for asciilifeform's mere 1wk [22:53]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 02:21 trinque: it's a rot that flows from relying on gpg, and I've thus far considered that tightening around asciilifeform's P is the appropriate time for it. [22:53]
asciilifeform: ( it will be obvious to the reader, why. but i'll keep it a fun surprise ) [22:54]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757327 << the important bit ( and iirc i emphasized this in the lamport piece ) is to agree IN ADVANCE [22:57]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 02:20 trinque: just pointing out that I might be corrupting the youfs by not taking a firmer line on "put a sane single key into deedbot and always have it, or proceed by the *only* mechanism to change key, or die" [22:57]
asciilifeform: otherwise you will have no end of folx begging for 'just one' exception , and in the end devolve to socially-engineerable usgism [22:57]
trinque: indeed. [22:57]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757275 << iirc gpg actually defaults to generating 2 moduli, sign-only an' decrypt-only [22:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 00:01 mircea_popescu: so you can sign with it but not decrypt ?! [22:59]
asciilifeform: which is monstrously retarded, but koch did not ask me, lol [22:59]
trinque: asciilifeform: you didn't do anything other than remove the gcc-5.x step in my recipe, and worked? [23:39]
trinque: I just ran over here, build craps out of gcc-4 with "cannot create executables" [23:39]
asciilifeform: trinque: i must note, my gentoo is ordinary, rather than musltronic [23:59]
asciilifeform: ( recipe closer to danielpbarron's ) [23:59]
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