Forum logs for 13 Sep 2019

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers : testing a small cosmetic fix to reader.py . if anyone notices oddities on whatever browser, plox to write in. [01:49]
mircea_popescu: first! [06:14]
mircea_popescu: how come everyone's up so early, anyways! [06:14]
mircea_popescu: o wait, that was from earlier. oook :D [06:15]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: :p [06:16]
diana_coman: how come no log though, weird [06:16]
mircea_popescu: what log you mean ? [06:42]
mircea_popescu: holy shit i had to take out [] style links from my latest trilema draft. [06:45]
mircea_popescu: that format's infectious! [06:45]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: as in: had nothing to read before breakfast! at all, eleventy11! [06:54]
mircea_popescu: it's the end of the world [06:54]
mircea_popescu: as we know it... [06:54]
diana_coman: I keep getting the order wrong on those damned [] and so having to check it every time [06:55]
mircea_popescu: same as for href = url, anchor. [06:55]
diana_coman: that should help, ty. [06:55]
mircea_popescu: (this is deliberately, so a whole field of one can be converted to the other without needing lookahead parsing, just s///g will suffice) [06:55]
bvt: lobbes: please test the following vpatch: http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch.bvt.sig i'll have time for a writeup only on the weekend. this vpatch is only lightly tested so far. [07:55]
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-12#1935755 <-- neato! are these chan-boards open sores? prolly worth stealing the coad while at it. [08:12]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 05:42:11 mircea_popescu: spyked, you know what, re img pastebin ? i think im just going to revive ye ancient dtng service [08:12]
mircea_popescu: spyked, i have a phpball somewhere from the fain days [08:12]
spyked: ah, cool [08:14]
auctionbot: Buy order # 1057 has ENDED: item as described in http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934605 and following. SOLD by lobbes for 100mn ecu. Attn: mircea_popescu [08:16]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/ [08:16]
mircea_popescu: lobbes, you know, it's technically speaking sold ~to~ lobbes. [08:17]
mircea_popescu: though i agree, a minor point. [08:17]
mircea_popescu: anyways -- when are we looking at delivery ? [08:17]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934235 <-- iirc the irc spec states that server sends ping when client is idle. src: http://archive.is/2pGUp#selection-2315.60-2315.386 (should be under 4.6.2 Ping message) [08:18]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:37:44 trinque: probably the situation was that most times server doesn't ping if client has already. [08:18]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934834 <-- why ty! well, I'll have to remove the fonts from the theme when I genesize thetarpit, because binary. [08:22]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 12:54:41 billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1933994 << completely true, and i agree with asciilifeform, i'm a fan of The Tar Pit's theme (i'm also partial to trinque's theme) [08:22]
mircea_popescu: spyked, could also base64 i guess [08:46]
mircea_popescu: https://x001.imx.to/i/2017/06/21/594a9e018b233.jpg << in other news, dorcel's still pretty cool. [09:02]
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/successive-strata-of-castlebuilding-spoiler-they-decay-over-time-as-part-of-a-narrative-on-the-greatest-italian-circus-in-romania-and-teenage-sexuality/ << Trilema -- Successive strata of castlebuilding (spoiler : they decay over time) as part of a narrative on the greatest Italian circus in Romania and teenage sexuality [09:02]
spyked: hm, base64 [09:11]
spyked: that might work, actually, given that the fonts don't ever change [09:12]
mircea_popescu: aha. [10:24]
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935883 << ty bvt! I will test this weekend (unless alf beats me to it) [12:48]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-13 07:55:02 bvt: lobbes: please test the following vpatch: http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch.bvt.sig i'll have time for a writeup only on the weekend. this vpatch is only lightly tested so far. [12:48]
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935890 << Nein. I'm selling the ~work to you~ for 100mn ecu, hence sold ~by myself~ :D [12:48]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-13 08:17:25 mircea_popescu: lobbes, you know, it's technically speaking sold ~to~ lobbes. [12:48]
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935892 << now this I want to get right. I have a piss poor history of time estimation, so I don't trust myself atm to give a proper one. [12:48]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-13 08:17:35 mircea_popescu: anyways -- when are we looking at delivery ? [12:48]
lobbes: How's this: I'm going to begin by attacking Thing 2 in this comment (grr the new server-side selection does not work for comments it seems?), after which I should have more info on my ability and the time it should take. I can give you a better estimate then I hope [12:49]
mircea_popescu: oh ic [12:49]
lobbes: wait, which do you see? [12:49]
mircea_popescu: the by / to [12:49]
lobbes: aa [12:50]
mircea_popescu: as to the rest, alright, i wait [12:50]
lobbes: re: the by /to, I remember that being figured out from the pizarro auctions [12:51]
mircea_popescu: i have pie, and sluts, and a whole web of plans and complots & conspiracies to alleviate the expectation [12:51]
lobbes: re: the rest aite! sounds like a plan [12:51]
lobbes: haha now that is a life [12:51]
mircea_popescu: maybe i'll just have the girls try on all the stockings in the house [12:51]
mircea_popescu: that should give you a dozen or so hours :D [12:51]
lobbes: thems a lot of stockings [12:51]
lobbes: well, I'm off to mines to do nothing as interesting. bbl [12:52]
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/09/btmsr-comix/ << The Whet -- B,TMSR~ Comix [13:08]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935883 << bvt you will need to regrind, you left out yesterday's patch from yer sequence [14:38]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 04:38:29 bvt: lobbes: please test the following vpatch: http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch.bvt.sig i'll have time for a writeup only on the weekend. this vpatch is only lightly tested so far. [14:38]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 15:13:13 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! lobbes , diana_coman , et al : reader.py on dulap updated to lobbes's raw-export-fix. vtree page updated w/ lobbes patch and lobbes , asciilifeform , sigs. [14:38]
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a0-cl-www-summary.html << The Tar Pit -- Common Lisp WWWism summary [15:43]
mircea_popescu: lotta work spyked . [16:10]
mircea_popescu: you know, by the way, curl can make a heavy load for you any time you so feel like. [16:13]
mircea_popescu: "without much effort" isn't meaningful. "in one week of six hour days". something. [16:14]
mircea_popescu: anyway : i'm willing to bet migration ~will~ be trivial and i am very curious to find out why not if indeed not [16:18]
mircea_popescu: re echo '<a href="' . $url . '">' . $description . '</a>' << nothing keeps you from doing print_url(x y z) if you want to. you'd have to define that function, of course, but this is true in lisp and any other language as well. [16:21]
mircea_popescu: the greater point being that ad hoc php by iliterates is not different from ad hoc perl or c or bash or lisp for that matter, why's it the computer's fault ? [16:22]
mircea_popescu: php CAN handle cascading templating, the reason it's never seen is because anyone who can be bothered to do such things is not there to do it, but too busy fucking tghemselves in the ass with obscure dildos in romanian this is called "pe cind se potcovea purecele cu 99 oca de fier la un picior". [16:23]
mircea_popescu: why'd a flea need that much iron shoeing ? lest it jumps too high, of course. [16:23]
mircea_popescu: but if you want to do things in the style of print(url, list-of-params) whereby print_url(list-of-params) is called printing the list as an url, you definitely can. [16:24]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interesting slavicism there, that horseshoe, potcoava, is really подкова (literally, 'under-smithing') [17:17]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is there a native romanicism that goes with it ? ( as in the 'vrem/timp' pair ) [17:17]
asciilifeform: ( oblig . ) [17:20]
snsabot: Logged on 2018-12-05 10:04:37 asciilifeform: likes marshak's translation 9000x better than the orig. 'Не было гвоздя -Подкова Пропала. / Не было подковы - Лошадь Захромала./ Лошадь захромала - Командир Убит./ Конница разбита -- Армия Бежит. / Враг вступает в город,/ Пленных не щадя, / Оттого, что в кузнице [17:20]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935874 << when lobbes bakes a phpistic parser for these, could put in mp's-wp then ? [17:53]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 03:29:14 mircea_popescu: holy shit i had to take out [] style links from my latest trilema draft. [17:53]
asciilifeform: lobbes: added ericbot to colourizer list . [18:13]
asciilifeform: current list on dulap . [18:16]
diana_coman: ha, there should be a botbot :P ty asciilifeform for the list, I'll update mine too. [18:20]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: yw. when we crack the url puzzler and import era1 , will also need historic bots in there. [18:22]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:37:54 mircea_popescu: dun have to be solved today, we'll live for quite a while as it stands. [18:22]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nope, slavic only. [18:32]
mircea_popescu: Șăineanu (1920s) actually gives your exact etymology, [Slav. PODŬKOVŬ, din PODŬ, subt, și KOVATI, a făuri]. [18:36]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did ro ever have a 'lang purification' wankmovement a la greeks, czechs, norwegians ? [18:39]
asciilifeform: 'get the barbarisms out!11' [18:39]
mircea_popescu: notrly. they did however do an idiotic antisemitism thing the guy is actually Eliezer Schein and other than one of the precious few, subdozen romanian linguists ever worth the mention, aslo spent most of his life trying to be naturalized and not managing [18:40]
mircea_popescu: eventually moved to france. [18:40]
asciilifeform: funnily enuff the j00z in nyc did have one, they iirc tried to standardize a yiddish minus slavicisms post-war [18:42]
mircea_popescu: the reason rotards didn't do, incidentaly, is not wisdom but idiocy : so many completely iliterate attempts to "systematize" lang, there was no fucking need or rather, practical possibility of directed activity like you're describing [18:42]
asciilifeform: (made approx as much sense as to try an' standardize navajo, but nobody asked asciilifeform) [18:42]
mircea_popescu: much like the man on pcp running up and down the sidewalk punching out imaginary flying trees is way too busy to kill himself properly speaking. [18:43]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was asking re attempts, rather than success ( consider the greeks' 'success' ) [18:43]
mircea_popescu: yes, but need a certain conceptual stability to attempt. i suppose the most systematic was late 1800s, latinization a la i h radulescu. [18:44]
mircea_popescu: was broadly derrided as insane. [18:44]
asciilifeform: they pounded on it until the pins bent and it went in, eh [18:44]
mircea_popescu: "degitlegau" (lit, ofnecktierer) instead of the "alien" cravata (tie) [18:45]
mircea_popescu: nobody ever used it other than for humour tho [18:45]
asciilifeform: !q s uncleftish beholding [18:46]
snsabot: 1 results for "uncleftish beholding" in #trilema [18:46]
mircea_popescu: aa. [18:46]
mircea_popescu: aha* [18:46]
mircea_popescu: btw, happy friday the 13th [18:47]
asciilifeform: ftr, the subj. [18:48]
asciilifeform: and ty mircea_popescu ! [18:48]
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/09/easterly-travelogue/ << The Whet -- Easterly Travelogue [19:48]
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/taliban-asserts-their-readiness-to-continue-war-for-another-century-so-long-as-us-continues-forcing-war-on-afghanistan/ << Qntra -- Taliban Asserts Their Readiness To Continue War For Another Century So Long As US Continues Forcing War On Afghanistan [21:10]
BingoBoingo: En lul https://preview.redd.it/poj1udxrrfm31.png?width=964&auto=webp&s=31c8ed74b64055422bc8c5fe2268bb9d0c8814b5 [23:35]
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