Forum logs for 12 Dec 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: lol [00:00]
trinque: queues queues everywhere [00:01]
trinque: << nope, though I dunno where you saw happen [00:05]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 03:27 asciilifeform: trinque: i've wondered for some time , is the thing where your walletron throws pgpciphered matter into the greater void, as in e.g. , without the addressee's name in the line -- deliberate design choice ? [00:05]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 03:27 asciilifeform: often the link pops up hour or moar after the invocation, and i end up clicking, expecting traditional (i.e. plaintext) deedbot material [00:05]
trinque: there's no wallet op that takes an hour [00:05]
trinque: << possible you're thinking of this. [00:06]
trinque: pops up when a deed bundle's tx is confirmed [00:06]
trinque: << but I don't oppose this, would be more convenient at no apparent cost. [00:07]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 03:59 mircea_popescu: yeah. possibly though rule to always put addressee name in line when sending encrypted matter may be useful nevertheless. [00:07]
mircea_popescu: yee [00:09]
mircea_popescu: aaand in other basics for the learners of romanian, [00:59]
BingoBoingo: <mats> i keep seeing 'traumatic brain injury' in your statements, BingoBoingo << Well, got anybetter short forms for "The Boingo ISP"? [06:49]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [07:17]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16515.08, vol: 14391.09884846 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16616.0, vol: 64100.4744167 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16730.1, vol: 3598.77950646 | Volume-weighted last average: 16603.309971 [07:17]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [07:43]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [07:43]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 498897 | Current Difficulty: 1.590896927258E12 | Next Difficulty At Block: 499967 | Next Difficulty In: 1070 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 15 hours, 18 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [07:43]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16634.0, vol: 14446.13842017 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16760.0, vol: 64436.5160404 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16664.1, vol: 3618.62275037 | Volume-weighted last average: 16733.7308386 [07:43]
asciilifeform: meanwhile in pinoy spamola, << image-embeds asciilifeform's lispm keyboard schematic as 'asic miner' . bonus : if loaded via, gives entirely ~different~ spamola, prolly based on ip block [10:42]
mircea_popescu: ahaha [10:43]
mircea_popescu: ok this is fucking epic [10:43]
mircea_popescu: it redirected me to some kind of "option trading" scamsite. [10:44]
asciilifeform: << for posterity. [10:44]
asciilifeform: ^ screenshit [10:44]
asciilifeform: bottom ~half~ of the white box is the item. [10:44]
asciilifeform: why htmlembedded, not copied -- is anyone's guess. [10:45]
mircea_popescu: << mine [10:45]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bw $$$. they're very sensitive to it, best way to hurt them. [10:45]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your snapshot is ~= what gets . [10:46]
asciilifeform: they prolly have 2 buckets, 'ameritards' and 'other' [10:46]
mircea_popescu: o wow check it out, this was pretty advanced (class names randomgenerated strings to fool google etc) [10:46]
asciilifeform: aha, as far as these go. [10:46]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform contains eg <img src="" /> [10:47]
asciilifeform: yea subj [10:47]
asciilifeform: i suspect these get sucked out of google's image finder thing automagically [10:47]
mircea_popescu: so basically your blog is a subdomain on is why no ip addressing ? [10:47]
asciilifeform: if only that [10:48]
asciilifeform: ( the actual domain loads the thing. the nfs domain also loads. but each gets different ip ~every hour , they have in-house 1990s-era homebrew crapflare item ) [10:48]
asciilifeform: could've sworn i described it here [10:49]
mircea_popescu: wtf nonsense dns do these people use ? dig doesn't produce an ip ?! [10:49]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nuts. [10:49]
asciilifeform: , , , possibly elsewhere. [10:49]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 03:05 asciilifeform: << gotta appreciate this peculiar fact : asciilifeform used nfs co. service since 2007. not misprint : a decade sharp as of a few mo. ago. with ZERO MAINTENANCE and ZERO hassle and ~zero downtime and laughed at GB/s ddoses and do i have to go on ? [10:49]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 14:20 asciilifeform: and neither of these is a bug, or will ever be fixed, nfs co’s. ddosproofing relies on the dynamic ip shenanigans [10:49]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 14:58 asciilifeform: ( the sad thing re nfs co, is that it is in fact a kolhoz, quite like amazon's and the rest, but more ancient and built by actual men, vs 'millenial' scum, and so it actually ~works~, and delivers on the promise -- you don't own your hdd, BUT you never have to go down from a dead hdd you own no ip BUT no ddos etc. it however IS STILL A KOLHOZ , with the complacency and inevitable day of doom that comes with this. ) [10:49]
mod6: mornin' [10:49]
mircea_popescu: heya [10:50]
asciilifeform: ohai mod6 [10:50]
* mod6 waves [10:50]
asciilifeform: iirc somebody here recently also subscribed to nfsco [10:50]
asciilifeform: ( hanbot ? ) [10:50]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems very likely google images automated banditry. [10:50]
mircea_popescu: yeah, thewhet's there now [10:50]
asciilifeform: turns out, it knows how to eat btc, for a few yrs nao [10:51]
mircea_popescu: yeh that was part of it. [10:51]
deedbot: << Trilema - The ECu [10:55]
ben_vulpes: and in today's pretentions to relevance: [10:58]
* mircea_popescu is not clicking [10:58]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not missing anyffing [10:58]
mircea_popescu: which, amusingly, is less than rando spammer above managed. [10:58]
asciilifeform: it's a snore [10:58]
asciilifeform: the pinoy earlier muchly moarinteresting [10:58]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu forgoing the opportunity to cane the sec? will wonders never cease! [10:59]
ben_vulpes: they even talk about never having vetted 'crypto-' related securities! [10:59]
ben_vulpes: no exchange traded anything! [10:59]
mircea_popescu: eh... [10:59]
* asciilifeform found the pinoy on a few other domains, there's a whole system [11:03]
mircea_popescu: im sure. [11:03]
mircea_popescu: gotta replace teh viagra spam with something. [11:03]
asciilifeform: meanwhile in 'The Internet of the Future' ( as pictured in ) noose : << and also it lies to , so screenshit : [11:07]
mircea_popescu: ahaha [11:08]
mircea_popescu: four euro/month ?! srsly ?! [11:08]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, << usg burns yet another of $infinity ssl decrypt methods, to push 'Disable RSA encryption!' [11:11]
asciilifeform: ( not, naturally, because it matters worth a shit what pseudocipher plebe uses in sslolade. but to fudspray on rsa per se. ) [11:11]
asciilifeform: ^ uses the 20y.o. nonconstanttimersa privkeyraper. which worx great still. [11:13]
asciilifeform: ^ and oblig hanno boeck. [11:14]
asciilifeform: << this is a pretty interesting item, and i suspect a very similar problem in what'll remain of usa. [11:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 04:22 mircea_popescu: aaand in other ancient trilemas, [11:32]
asciilifeform: but meanwhile-er, in not-at-all-noose, asciilifeform briefly looked into the question of what-would-it-take to make a pci-e FG . found ( e.g. and elsewhere, for the curious ) that it is quite impossible to do with lattice 'ice' or any other small fpga the complexity is bookcase-length ( supposing one could even ~get~ the req'd docs, many are not only payware but protected via disinfo-flooding ) [12:11]
asciilifeform: i specifically exclude devices like xilinx and altera series with ~built-in~ pcie -- these are not, properly speaking, fpga [12:13]
asciilifeform: ( you wouldn't call an 'implementation' of e.g. ppc cpu that simply uses xilinx 'virtex' series' built-in ppc core, an implementation. apply same rule to pci.) [12:13]
asciilifeform: ftr supposed 'fpga' with built-in periphs are simply proprietary gluetraps. [12:14]
asciilifeform: any and all built-in periphs. [12:14]
asciilifeform: ( see also and possibly elsewhere. ) [12:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 12:00 asciilifeform: 1 level below, x86/arm/pci,sata,usb, etc play same role as unix and microshit -- accumulated layer of sewage [12:25]
BingoBoingo: En otra cosas: A meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning y entonces the venezualas have referred another firm, meeting to be scheduled [12:26]
asciilifeform: ohai BingoBoingo [12:29]
BingoBoingo: Hola asciilifeform [12:30]
asciilifeform: how go the adventures of BingoBoingo under the southern cross ? [12:51]
BingoBoingo: So far so fun. Gradually shifting from cold contacting to contacting the referred. The weather is still unbeatable, and the Brazilian stoners have departed. [12:52]
BingoBoingo: The hostel is far emptier, may start filling up again later in the week. [12:52]
BingoBoingo: Also, the local accent is beginning to break into discrete works as opposed to noise. The epic 2.5-3 hour AA meetings here have been an invaluable opportunity to listen to a variety of local speakers one at a time. [12:54]
BingoBoingo: La Tienda Inglesia, wonderful source of food. Local fereterias... dismal affairs. [12:57]
asciilifeform: what's an orc aa meeting typically like ? [12:58]
BingoBoingo: Well, they keep the opening ceremonies short, there are no time limits on speaking, and the meeting ends when everyone who wanted to speaks. Other than the lack of time pressure much more the same than different. [13:00]
asciilifeform: this dun tell me anything [13:00]
asciilifeform: i was asking re subj [13:01]
asciilifeform: what do they speak about [13:01]
BingoBoingo: Also like back home they celebrate sober birthdays with various treats. So far there have been delicious brownies and giant chocolates [13:01]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mostly the same things. Family, work, trudging the walk that is life, the programs, etc [13:02]
BingoBoingo: The meeting I have been frequenting occurs in giant catholic church, Dracaena trees outside [13:03]
deedbot: [14:15]
ben_vulpes: "don't keep your files /with/ you, keep your files /in/ you!" [14:49]
asciilifeform: !#s arse safe [14:50]
a111: 4 results for "arse safe", [14:50]
mod6: lol "plug and play" [14:57]
shinohai: Custom orders also available. [15:02]
asciilifeform: !!up nocko [15:39]
deedbot: nocko voiced for 30 minutes. [15:39]
danielpbarron: !~later tell trinque what's the eta on deedbot withdraw? [15:53]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded. [15:53]
trinque: danielpbarron: hm, didn't get a printout. possibly that didn't come back up on the new drive. [16:19]
* trinque will run it within the hour [16:20]
trinque: heh, cups was not set to start at boot, and the box's uptime was so long I never noticed [16:21]
trinque: << meanwhile check out the worm-hydra chatting up one of my nodes [16:48]
danielpbarron: i've been getting that too for the last day or so [16:49]
deedbot: danielpbarron: [17:17]
asciilifeform: << aha typical. ( looks like trinque uses malleus ? ) [17:37]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 21:48 trinque: << meanwhile check out the worm-hydra chatting up one of my nodes [17:37]
trinque: yep, trb node with the mighty banhammer vpatch [17:39]
mod6: boom [17:40]
mircea_popescu: << i imagined you'll enjoy. possibly also teh original to some reference in latest, [18:13]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 16:32 asciilifeform: << this is a pretty interesting item, and i suspect a very similar problem in what'll remain of usa. [18:13]
asciilifeform: loox like post-sov-style privatizationvoucher neh [18:15]
asciilifeform: i suppose this story went the same way ? [18:15]
mircea_popescu: a, not at all. those existed, in the 90s. [18:15]
mircea_popescu: this is straight "living wage"-ism deployed by old marginal ro orc politruk trying to get back on horse. [18:16]
asciilifeform: aaaa i recall this was mentioned [18:16]
mircea_popescu: just in case victoria nuland needs something to pick. [18:16]
mircea_popescu: HOW exactly they do this is incomprehensible. but consider : guy who was 3rd echelon politruk under shoemaker guy who was too dumb / poorly connected to make anything of the 90s, resurfaces in 2010! with a "proposal" which consists of "here's this adaptation of usg-isms as i understand them". [18:17]
asciilifeform: << see also q [18:17]
a111: Logged on 2016-01-28 12:46 asciilifeform: i do wonder, do the 'basic income' folks simply not understand the hierarchical role of money? or think that it can be magicked away? or do not, but lie about it ? [18:17]
mircea_popescu: very ethnologically interesting, but WHAT the fuck makes the orcs produce these ? [18:17]
mircea_popescu: it's a very similar disbelief to the "what the fuck makes epitelial cells admit ringworm?!?!?!" [18:17]
mircea_popescu: ie, we imagine "ringworm is a thing", independent and of itself, rather than correctly understanding "ringworm is the PRODUCT of epitelium cells, it is the long whisp remaining out of specific denials", VERY much a item. [18:19]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down. [18:19]
asciilifeform: recall phage thread [18:19]
mircea_popescu: similarily, we imagine the usg is a thing, independent and of itself, rather than correctly understanding "usg is the PRODUCT of what the orcs will believe, very much in the sense usg is what's left after all the items impossible as far as orcs are concerned were removed much like byzantium was "what's left after we eliminated everything the bulgarians wouldn't buy". [18:20]
asciilifeform: ( renewed interest in phages, since '90s, because -- quite unlike synthetic antibacterial -- no meaningful resistance, the cat and mouse have been fighting for million+ yr ) [18:20]
mircea_popescu: aha. [18:20]
mircea_popescu: more meaningful than mn+ years : bn+ generations. [18:20]
mircea_popescu: there will never be a bn generations of humans. [18:21]
asciilifeform: aha [18:21]
asciilifeform: tho one could posit that single generation of whatever organism 'counts' moar post-1945. prior, most mutation was afaik accounted for by k40 [18:22]
asciilifeform: which is not so abundant [18:22]
asciilifeform: ( and not, contrary to schoolboy notion, 'cosmic ray', very little cosmic ray reaches surface ) [18:22]
asciilifeform: but iirc we had this thread. [18:22]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i had no fucking idea, back in 2010, what a big deal a random photograph of mailboix spam will become in not even a decade. but it IS a huge deal. consider -- that guy, who IS NOT the proponent, WROTE!!! by hand!!! ie just like !! so as to stuff my mailbox with xerocopies. [18:22]
mircea_popescu: why ? why would a dude too dumb to distinguish facebook from the internet do this ? [18:23]
asciilifeform: gotta wonder why by hand. 'luxor centre' charged a funbux too much ? [18:23]
mircea_popescu: i doubt it's that. i suspect orc simply did not know what this wordprocessor thing is. [18:23]
mircea_popescu: he had a xerox in his mental space because readily available and cheap (lotta students live nearby) but not a wp. [18:23]
asciilifeform: but compared with current wordprocessor folx, betcha d00d knew some elementary grammar, say. [18:24]
mircea_popescu: he evidently didn't need a spellchecker. [18:24]
* mircea_popescu looks over it again lesseew [18:24]
asciilifeform: reminds me, when su was a going concern, 'классическое образование' usually referred to pre-1917 gymnasium, latin, greek, etc. but apparently ~today~ folx on ru net refer to su-era school as classical. [18:25]
asciilifeform: because ~same level of sinkage towards africa. [18:26]
asciilifeform: next stop -- africa proper. [18:26]
mircea_popescu: Dragi concetateni, Dupa cum stiti OTV-ul are campanie de culegere de semnaturi in sprijinul legii Cojocaru in cadrul emisiunii lui Tudor Barbu : "Se intimpla acum". Am pornit din proprie initiativa o mica campanie pe Bd. Gh. Lazar pentru ca sunt blocuri turn cu multe familii pe scara desi [...] [18:26]
mircea_popescu: it's clean romanian and well composed. also shockingly honest. [18:26]
asciilifeform: because actual person. [18:26]
mircea_popescu: likely, yes. [18:26]
asciilifeform: and so i won't laugh at him simply because he eschewed buying a comp. [18:27]
mircea_popescu: well, certainly in a way no redditard/hackernewstard/etc could ever be suspected. [18:27]
asciilifeform: real person. and they dun make'em nomoar. [18:27]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am laughing at him because of many other things included among them that he DIDNT eschew buying comp, simply did not understand what it was. [18:27]
mircea_popescu: i eschew buying fucking apple laptop. he eschews nothing. [18:28]
asciilifeform: i imagine 1 simple litmus would be to learn whether d00d in the end did buy a crapple. [18:28]
mircea_popescu: well, litmi as the researcher decides. but to my eyes, the simple fact that he imagines this is how democracy works as a statal matter ("dragi concetateni" is "beloved fellow citizens", ie smacking very much of "les trois glorieuses", not that he'd know) is enough. [18:29]
mircea_popescu: this EXACT fellow, living in 2010, was in fact satirized in... 1880! by caragiale. [18:30]
* asciilifeform recalls the trilema re subj [18:30]
mircea_popescu: you might greatly enjoy conu leonida fata cu reactiunea btw, ever read that one ? [18:30]
asciilifeform: dun think so [18:30]
mircea_popescu: the winner part for this discussion being "EFIMIȚA: Dacă n-o mai plăti niminea bir, soro, de unde or să aibă cetățenii leafă? [18:32]
mircea_popescu: LEONIDA (în luptă cu somnul): Treaba statului, domnule, el ce grije are? pentru ce-l avem pe el? e datoria lui să-ngrijească să aibă oamenii lefurile la vreme..." [18:32]
mircea_popescu: < whole thing [18:32]
* asciilifeform puts in pipe. [18:32]
mircea_popescu: (dude's idea of the progressive republic that the reactionary evil men don't let good folk build is a state where it's illegal to pay your debts. his wife inquires whence will people be paid [because evidently everyone's employed by the state, it is after all 1880s romania], and he says that's the state's fucking problem, what's it for!) [18:33]
asciilifeform: iirc hanbot alluded to this item in 'shall be delivered' [18:34]
mircea_popescu: this understanding is judicious : unless "the state" manages to get dosh out of india or whatever the fuck to pay living wages for people at home to be "british citizens" there ain't gonna be no fucken empire! [18:34]
mircea_popescu: so to get back to mr crisan quoted above : the reason he isn't sitting atop a computer/car/hairblower/starbucks coffee cup is that he doesn't yet understand HOW such item would forward / is requisite for his notion of "a republic" == usgstan. because that is ABSOLUTELY ALL he is interested in, and will give no half a spare cycle to any other consideration, period and fuck you. [18:35]
mircea_popescu: the dedication of the imperial peons is remarkable, worthy of a greater goal as it may find itself. [18:36]
asciilifeform: 'just want' [18:36]
mircea_popescu: but i am convinced that strictly, very and absolutely strictly the only reason why mr adrian crisan is spending his afternoon writing up that and then xeroxing it in preference of say "editing wikipedia" or "working for google" as a "moderator" is that he does not perceive how the later would deliver him more usg empire per unit effort than the former. [18:37]
mircea_popescu: so he's not eschewing anything, he's just as pantsuit as the pantsuited hilarity herself. [18:37]
mircea_popescu: just, he was born orc and she was born east coast hottie. [18:37]
asciilifeform: ( possibly interesting that the ancients knew about the sin of 'just wanting', and hence fables about wish-granting sessions Gone Horridly Wrong etc ) [18:37]
mircea_popescu: it's not altogether clear to me that he wants anything for himself, [18:39]
mircea_popescu: above and besides the "worker's paradise" as described in badly penned fiction of the recently literate cca 1910s. [18:39]
asciilifeform: orc wants whichever paradise he conceives his orcistan as having been derailed from [18:40]
asciilifeform: i dun see the 'life was so inconceivably sweet before the fr rev' d00d as so different. [18:40]
mircea_popescu: i dunno. [18:40]
mircea_popescu: i suspect actual item orc wants is a land where there's no smart people. [18:41]
mircea_popescu: in the very strict sense of "anyone whose name you'd see in schoolbooks" [18:41]
asciilifeform: no 'carnivorous' smartpeople, at any rate [18:41]
mircea_popescu: he doesn't specifically care if it's 1500s german peasant life, ie, outright medieval peonage. just as long. [18:41]
mircea_popescu: yeah, no offensive jews, as discussed in the [18:42]
mircea_popescu: none of those "better than you" folk. [18:42]
mircea_popescu: right, that's it. he just dun want to there be any jews. clearly unites nazi antisemitism with soviet antisemitism with etcetera. socialism, ie, dear lord protect us dumbasses from our betters. [18:42]
mircea_popescu: "that's the state's job, man, to make sure!" ie, exact empire. [18:43]
asciilifeform: this is mircea_popescu's passive-and-active article all over again, neh. [18:43]
mircea_popescu: indeed. [18:43]
mircea_popescu: well this was a productive discussion! [18:43]
asciilifeform: speaking of passive actives, asciilifeform found that FG runs ok ( it wants just 8mA @ 5v, recall ) from a contrievance . a la 1990s serial mice. this seems useless until you look inside server and notice the convenient two rs232 headers in there. [18:45]
asciilifeform: and incidentally i oughta ask the folx tuned in, whether there is demand for mass-produced mounting kit for FG-in-1U , that'd include this item + mechanical dildo for hanging from a pci slot bracket. [18:46]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, in other productive discussions that never were, i expect NOT A SINGLE ONE of the various "experts" in their own mind, economists, political theorists, whatnot will actually engage much like buffett "couldn't find shorts" back in the days of and just as never happe [18:46]
mircea_popescu: ned for that yudkowsky character and just as so following. [18:46]
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which -- bitcoin DID overperform Berkshire over the interval. by... somewhat of a margin.) [18:47]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: their strategy is solidly today as in 2014. [18:47]
a111: Logged on 2014-06-04 00:08 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened. [18:47]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun know yet, gotta see what BingoBoingo comes up with. [18:47]
mircea_popescu: conceivably might sacrifice an u per rack to fgs ? [18:47]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bad idea, you ~really~ dun want external cabling to these. [18:48]
mircea_popescu: ah right. [18:48]
mircea_popescu: antennaing [18:48]
mircea_popescu: anywya, this matter to remain open. [18:48]
asciilifeform: not only radiates. but makes life far too easy for the 'control vertical and horizontal' busybodies. [18:48]
mircea_popescu: as to the above : these are marginal schmucks! their only chance to matter is to go be meaningful in faraway lands. [18:48]
asciilifeform: mine are going into the boxes proper. q is whether it is worth turning into a catalogue item. [18:49]
mircea_popescu: in other sads, fetlife profile now getting >100 pieces of mail a day. da fuck am i gonna do, assign slave to manage it ? [18:50]
asciilifeform: lol they unkickbanned it ?! [18:50]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [18:50]
mircea_popescu: ah, different one. doh. [18:51]
asciilifeform: aaa [18:51]
mircea_popescu: "banning". you know. [18:51]
asciilifeform: for a sec i thought they did a formal surrender. [18:51]
mircea_popescu: pretty sure i'd have said something. [18:51]
mircea_popescu: anyway, turns out the under-30 female crowd is nuts about baby turtles [18:53]
mircea_popescu: who could have predicted, totally nao. [18:53]
asciilifeform: ye olde lolcatz obsolete or wut [18:54]
mircea_popescu: apparently. [18:54]
asciilifeform: nuts. [18:54]
mircea_popescu: anyway, "AI" consisting of hello-and-1-response is seeing > 50% success rate. can you imagine this ? [18:55]
mircea_popescu: even fucking eliza had a) less success and b) more preloads. [18:55]
asciilifeform: on which end this ai ? [18:55]
mircea_popescu: talk about [18:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 23:26 asciilifeform: because ~same level of sinkage towards africa. [18:55]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's ? or the females-with-turtles-emulator-service [18:55]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just a simple "hello how goes it ?" ??? | grep for a "how about you" if found feed a "great, here's turtles". works shockingly well. [18:56]
mircea_popescu: in fact, it works so well i expect even idiocy a la delivers. the quality of the chumps is so fucken low... [18:57]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 15:42 asciilifeform: meanwhile in pinoy spamola, << image-embeds asciilifeform's lispm keyboard schematic as 'asic miner' . bonus : if loaded via, gives entirely ~different~ spamola, prolly based on ip block [18:57]
asciilifeform: i'm still not convinced that spamism is anything but 'fat-powered' item . likely, the chumpers dun have a hundy between them, collectively [18:58]
mircea_popescu: <30yo females don't need a hundy. [18:58]
asciilifeform: also not convinced that any flesh-and-blood females ever go near 'dating site' [18:58]
mircea_popescu: fetlife apparently exception. [18:58]
asciilifeform: interesting. [18:59]
* asciilifeform wholly unequipped to even guess as to why. [18:59]
mircea_popescu: it's what they do 10-20 years before beaching over on okcupid, as best as my xenomorph psychology studies dept can explain [18:59]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because youth is fundamentally transgressive as part of what it even fucking means. [18:59]
asciilifeform: thing's about as transgressive as joining komsomol. [18:59]
mircea_popescu: 1980s teens gotta be "that chick from that mtv video "crazy"". [18:59]
mircea_popescu: and 2010s chicks gotta be on fetlife, apparently. [18:59]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how the cuntbrain works. [19:00]
asciilifeform: apparentlynot [19:00]
mircea_popescu: it'd better not fucking BE transgressive. it has to just be transgressive, geddit ? [19:00]
asciilifeform: transgressive(tm)(r) eh. [19:00]
asciilifeform: 'learn 21 daring sex positions in 21 days'-sort [19:01]
mircea_popescu: suppose you're 16yo girl. are you going to a) tell your mom you hate her, which is transgressive except for how she read you were gonna do that in a book when you were 6 or b) join isis so as to shoot your classmate in the face by the time you're both 24 ? [19:01]
mircea_popescu: "she was ai)ii) in irak, the dumb fucking bitch. man that wet thud of her brain on concrete was fucking satisfying, i went back into the foxhole and rubbed myself raw" [19:02]
asciilifeform: my understanding is that even the isis candidates do it to get fucked well [19:02]
mircea_popescu: mebbe [19:02]
mircea_popescu: but it sure is ~actually~ transgressive, as opposed to expectedly. [19:03]
asciilifeform: can count ~these~ on fingers of 1 hand. [19:03]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [19:03]
asciilifeform: ( as in, chix went to break heads on own power, with 0 prompting ) [19:04]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, speaking of orc techs, could oyu believe that schmuck in new york ? so... in preference of walking into gun shop, buying gun, killing half the town, this dude "made" bomb, which sure as fuck cost more than a walk-in in terms of effort and more than a grand in terms of dough, to... burn himself with it. [19:04]
mircea_popescu: "i can scarcely apprehend the confusion of ideas" etc. [19:05]
asciilifeform: approx as lame as most of the small arms people , who (with a few notable exceptions ) manage to put entire crate of ammo to waste and maybe injure 4 or 5 [19:05]
mircea_popescu: i can't conceive how this'd happen in times square [19:05]
mircea_popescu: (pro tip : buy AP ammo, kill 4-5 per shot. op is a thing.) [19:05]
asciilifeform: phunphakt, it's the cheaper type in usa [19:06]
mircea_popescu: aha! [19:06]
asciilifeform: fmj 7,62 is what folx practice with [19:06]
mircea_popescu: but seriously, metro! think about it, people line up to get in! and line up de facto once in! for like a quarter mile, like this! fire six bullets in enfilade, produce 50 dead and 500 wounded. [19:06]
asciilifeform: 1 type of idjit copies hollywood shootout, wastes crate of ammo, kill 0-dozen . other type of idjit copies camelfuckollywood, builds pipe bomb etc , kills ~0 [19:08]
mircea_popescu: ikr ? [19:08]
asciilifeform: both fundamentally same thing, however. mindless copy. [19:08]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the fucking fun that could be had. "buy gun, carry on person, use metro all day long, wait for a power outage where train goes dark" [19:08]
mircea_popescu: or... wait for train to almost pull in, shoot, keep mental bets between your multiple personalities as to whether falling into pit from pressure of squirming mob will do more damage than gunfire./ [19:09]
asciilifeform: one could easily fill a thick book with these. ( in 1970s someone ~did~, but usg unhappened it and composed 'anarchist cookbook' full of items optimized to kill user ) [19:09]
mircea_popescu: anarchist jargon file of the elders of sinai hospital! [19:10]
asciilifeform: lol [19:10]
asciilifeform: incidentally afaik in every major arson fire, stampede killed moar than smoke/flame [19:10]
mircea_popescu: yup. [19:10]
mircea_popescu: unavoidable. [19:10]
asciilifeform: the derps can't wait to do ~themselves~ in. [19:11]
mircea_popescu: which is why yelling fire more dangerous than setting fire. [19:11]
asciilifeform: the rub is that typical 'postalist' is not a thinking agent, on a mission, but a d00d watching a sort of movie inside his head [19:14]
asciilifeform: even the 'slow and patient' vegas fella recently. [19:14]
mircea_popescu: indeed. [19:14]
mircea_popescu: oh, that one especially. [19:14]
asciilifeform: arguably 'had fun' but from a 'mission' perspective -- atrocious [19:14]
mircea_popescu: it is a sad comment on the general utility and efficacity of "the state" that had the officious intermeddler "security guard" not intervened, dood probably would have watched the whole concert off his fence. [19:14]
mircea_popescu: makes one wonder how many of these weren't disturbed by "security", never shot anyone. [19:15]
asciilifeform: quite a few barrels in usa. most never speak. [19:15]
asciilifeform: sit , instead, in a cellar, rust. [19:15]
mircea_popescu: (also amusingly, nobody, not even a latter day tsp, dared make the obvious point -- moral assassin, the hotel guard.) [19:15]
mircea_popescu: !~google 1986 miami shootout [19:28]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1986 FBI Miami shootout - Wikipedia: <> The 1986 Miami Shootout : The gunfight that changed law ...: <> 1986 Miami FBI Shoot Out - YouTube: <> [19:28]
mircea_popescu: there's a list of cases where "attacked party produced more damage to attacker than sustained self". it's remarkably short, and it's remarkably tapering -- much more cases in the 80s than in the 2010s. [19:28]
asciilifeform: if folx were going for actual efficacy, they'd be arming themselves with petrol-in-pressurewasher, or at the most high tech -- gasses. [19:31]
asciilifeform: but nope. they are watching mental movie. [19:31]
mircea_popescu: not really. problem with those is no range. [19:31]
mircea_popescu: !#s die tired [19:31]
a111: 6 results for "die tired", [19:31]
asciilifeform: not as if most of the shooters made use of max rifle distance. [19:31]
mircea_popescu: sure. [19:32]
asciilifeform: they've worked, typically, at musketry range. [19:32]
asciilifeform: fire truck with petrol could cremate, theoretically, whole streets. [19:34]
mircea_popescu: yes well. flamethrower effectual when enemy pinned down, such as in bunker, pillbox or clearing trenches. [19:34]
asciilifeform: what's urban man if not pinned. [19:35]
ben_vulpes: paging sergeant shaftoe! [19:35]
asciilifeform: and what's a e.g. block of flats, if not awkward kind of pillbox. [19:35]
mircea_popescu: the WTC made that point quite well. [19:35]
asciilifeform: aaha [19:36]
pete_dushenski: hola! [19:42]
mircea_popescu: how goes [19:43]
pete_dushenski: pretty swell, yourself ? [19:43]
mircea_popescu: lol. [19:44]
mircea_popescu: as per teh logs... [19:44]
* pete_dushenski catches up [19:45]
pete_dushenski: << BingoBoingo not sure i properly congratulated you on pulling the chute! digging the reportage thus far. [19:47]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 13:20 deedbot: << Bingo Blog - El Primero Domingo En Montevideo For The Midwestern Rube [19:47]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mine are going into the boxes proper. q is whether it is worth turning into a catalogue item. << I see it hard to imagine how people could want to vacation here without such a contrivance in the box they leave behind to colocate [19:47]
mircea_popescu: << https as entirely worthless as ever though evidently i don't expect smartypants a la eg to perceive THEIR DUTY to now mourn / worship in compensation. [19:50]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 16:11 asciilifeform: meanwhile, << usg burns yet another of $infinity ssl decrypt methods, to push 'Disable RSA encryption!' [19:50]
mircea_popescu: they only perceive their duty to ie push the empire their percived duty never is to personally change so as to fit the republic [19:51]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 23:35 mircea_popescu: so to get back to mr crisan quoted above : the reason he isn't sitting atop a computer/car/hairblower/starbucks coffee cup is that he doesn't yet understand HOW such item would forward / is requisite for his notion of "a republic" == usgstan. because that is ABSOLUTELY ALL he is interested in, and will give no half a spare cycle to any other consideration, period and fuck you. [19:51]
asciilifeform: linked largely for the 'so you think constanttime is optional' lulz. [19:51]
mircea_popescu: i suppose this reduces the discussion to "there's two kinds of bipedals, the monkey and the human. the monkey dedicates itself to building wail groups, and the human to not needing to." [19:51]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, lol@terrorist tree in jail. [19:53]
mircea_popescu: << this is actually so clever i think ima add it to the standard mp ops manual. [19:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 17:54 BingoBoingo: Also, the local accent is beginning to break into discrete works as opposed to noise. The epic 2.5-3 hour AA meetings here have been an invaluable opportunity to listen to a variety of local speakers one at a time. [19:55]
mircea_popescu: << considering i made ~the item artisanally... o hey check that out, anally! [19:57]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 19:49 ben_vulpes: "don't keep your files /with/ you, keep your files /in/ you!" [19:57]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i expect there's a market. [19:57]
asciilifeform: 'Kraft knew a lot more than I did about wines, and he often brought home cobwebby treasures to go with a meal. But, even though Kraft always had a filled glass before him when we sat down to eat, the wine was all for me. Kraft was an alcoholic. He could not take so much as a sip of wine without starting on a bender that could last a month. That much of what he told me about himself was true. He was a member of Alcoholics Anonymous, h [19:57]
asciilifeform: ad been for sixteen years. While he used AA. meetings as spy drops, his appetite for what the meetings offered spiritually was real. He once told me, in all sincerity, that the greatest contribution America had made to the world, a contribution that would be remembered for thousands of years, was the invention of A.A.' [19:57]
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: ty [19:58]
asciilifeform: re BingoBoingo's item. ( from, naturally, ) [19:58]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-30 16:01 asciilifeform: << whole thing, ftr. 31333337 w4r3z !111 [19:58]
mircea_popescu: i was always suspicious of this "could not" business. really, you can't ? [19:58]
mircea_popescu: ran into this lots of times, most chicks are smokers, and most "can't" have a smoke like normal people without turning into their old x packs a day habit over time. [19:59]
mircea_popescu: then comes the first cold turkey + beating & berating for it, then the second... [19:59]
mircea_popescu: eventually once there's no hidey hole for "i just can't help myself" and no fucking benefit to binging whatsoever... they can./ [19:59]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> << this is actually so clever i think ima add it to the standard mp ops manual. << Funny how incidental self care part of the plan becomes lynch pin. [20:00]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 17:54 BingoBoingo: Also, the local accent is beginning to break into discrete works as opposed to noise. The epic 2.5-3 hour AA meetings here have been an invaluable opportunity to listen to a variety of local speakers one at a time. [20:00]
asciilifeform: loldunlookatme, i dun like developing dope tolerances at all [20:00]
asciilifeform: defeats the whole point , neh [20:00]
mircea_popescu: well... kinda the whole point of smoking, neh ? "it just... relaxes me, man" "and how do yo uthink it does that ?" "i don't know, there's some like brain receptors or something" [20:01]
mircea_popescu: mmmmmyeeah... [20:01]
asciilifeform: how to smoke -- is possibly the 1 item where the red man had right idea. [20:01]
mircea_popescu: what was that ? [20:01]
asciilifeform: ~monthly [20:01]
mircea_popescu: liek religious ritual thing ? [20:01]
mircea_popescu: aha. yeah. [20:01]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i was always suspicious of this "could not" business. really, you can't ? << Well advised not to. Once started who knows when stopping happens [20:01]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i wouldn't avise "free agents" to try, that's for damn sure. [20:02]
mircea_popescu: but slavegirl is safe in that "tell you what, how about i crack your skull open ?" is very... relaxing. [20:02]
BingoBoingo: Anyways comparing/contrasting results of past two years vs previous ten makes the case [20:03]
* mircea_popescu believes. [20:03]
BingoBoingo: But in a world full of stoned brazilians, one has to have a vice to be trusted, so tobacco returns for now. [20:04]
mircea_popescu: << ahahaha and the one liner of the day award goes to... [20:04]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 19:57 mod6: lol "plug and play" [20:04]
asciilifeform: re subj of link, seems like uniquely poor idea from opsec pov , for some reason usg likes to search arse ~first~ , sometimes even they leave the rest of the 'patient' alone. as with the famous fella pictured in old thread, who ate a pistol inside a police station, while already booked, on camera [20:05]
mircea_popescu: << o ya, timing is extremely useful tool in teh arsenal. [20:05]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 21:48 trinque: << meanwhile check out the worm-hydra chatting up one of my nodes [20:05]
mircea_popescu: then again i guess a good third of all trilema convos are about that. [20:06]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's for play pretend. [20:06]
asciilifeform: gotta wonder then , pretend-what. [20:06]
asciilifeform: pretend-i-am-a-disk-drive ? [20:06]
mircea_popescu: consider : take chick to restaurant, do things to her, on cam, then put the files on her buttdrive and have her carry it next time you eat at that restaurant. [20:07]
mircea_popescu: "hey... remember..." etc. [20:07]
asciilifeform: lolk. [20:07]
mircea_popescu: perversity longa. [20:07]
BingoBoingo: Anyways, after meeting with accountant tomorrow will likely publish first piece on developing annoyances with subsets of the locals. [20:07]
mircea_popescu: gotta bitch or else it's not a real blog! [20:08]
BingoBoingo: The fucking sniffling spasm, What the everloving fuck. Go home and leave polite society until you discover the handkercheif. [20:08]
shinohai: Hey BingoBoingo that little Pink Elephant guy was kinda cute. [20:09]
BingoBoingo: tyvm shinohai [20:10]
mircea_popescu: !#s brain fag syndrome [20:10]
a111: 0 results for "brain fag syndrome", [20:10]
BingoBoingo: When I saw it and the zoo I wondered if maybe they'd been trilema'd [20:10]
BingoBoingo: forget to look [20:10]
mircea_popescu: !~google brain fag syndrome [20:10]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Brain fag syndrome - Wikipedia: <> Brain fag syndrome : a culture-bound syndrome that may be ...: <> Brain Fag Syndrome in Africa | ANP204 – Introduction to Medical ...: <> [20:10]
mircea_popescu: ^ in other orc lulz. [20:10]
asciilifeform: is this another korean fan death [20:11]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo a painted elephant ? i have not really been literally everywhere already, cmon. [20:11]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha! except it's a "school's too hard" somatization. [20:11]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's near the closed zoo in Montevideo [20:12]
BingoBoingo: Or as the locals call it "The planetaria" [20:14]
shinohai: I hadn't heard the term "Pink Elephant" in years ... last time was when I got a bunch of bennies to make sobering up from 3 day binge easier. [20:15]
BingoBoingo: Looks like you did the lilly shot better vs [20:15]
mircea_popescu: well you know, works best if you get them in the shadow [20:16]
BingoBoingo: At the time, that stretch of street lacked shadow. This part of Montevideo has comfortable shaded walks full of sycamores and scorching sun galleries. [20:17]
mircea_popescu: oh, in other great eggogs : 走火入魔 ie "life energy cultivation error" aka "something has gone wrong in your chigong" [20:18]
shinohai: Sounds like a weaboo sex robot error. [20:20]
mircea_popescu: could be! [20:20]
mircea_popescu: "Holy shit Freud is spelled with an e not an a ? I had been spelling it wrong all these years and had no idea!" [20:21]
BingoBoingo: lol [20:21]
BingoBoingo: brb, voy a la cama [20:21]
pete_dushenski: << kinda humorous. mostly for costco > standford for learning about best of amerikan kapitalism. [20:26]
pete_dushenski: "The Western Elite from a Chinese Perspective by Puzhong Yao" [20:27]
asciilifeform: 'We talked about microaggressions and feelings and empathy and listening. Sometimes in class the professor would say things to me like “Puzhong, when Mary said that, I could see you were really feeling something,” or “Puzhong, I could see in your eyes that Peter’s story affected you.” And I would tell them I didn’t feel anything. I was quite confused.' << lol [20:33]
asciilifeform: 'Eventually I was able to meet the chief financial officer of my favorite company, Costco. He told me that they don’t hire any MBAs. Everyone starts by pushing trolleys. (I have seriously thought about doing just that. But my wife is strongly against it.) Maybe, I thought, that is why the company is so successful—no MBAs!' [20:34]
asciilifeform: 'Warren Buffett has said that the moment one was born in the United States or another Western country, that person has essentially won a lottery. If someone is born a U.S. citizen, he or she enjoys a huge advantage in almost every aspect of life, including expected wealth, education, health care, environment, safety, etc., when compared to someone born in developing countries. For someone foreign to “purchase” these privileges, t [20:35]
asciilifeform: he price tag at the moment is $1 million dollars (the rough value of the EB-5 investment visa). Even at this price level, the demand from certain countries routinely exceeds the annual allocated quota, resulting in long waiting times. In that sense, American citizens were born millionaires!' [20:35]
asciilifeform: ahahahahahahahaha [20:35]
asciilifeform: born millionaires, didjaknow [20:35]
asciilifeform: which must be why it costs usa inmate 750k usd to trade his shitpassport for one in sad old europistan, for instance. [20:36]
* asciilifeform looked at date of linked item. 2017. nope, not 1987, somehow. [20:38]
asciilifeform: not even '97. [20:38]
asciilifeform: nuts. [20:38]
asciilifeform: << see also ! [20:42]
a111: Logged on 2014-02-14 17:26 mircea_popescu: ok, so school in soviet russia [20:42]
mircea_popescu: "really feeling" as opposed to, importantly, "not really" feeling. it's a matter of degree not of reality that's being spoken to [20:57]
mircea_popescu: the "lottery" theory is very much in the vein of "when one is born male, one gets advantages", ie, statistical retrofitting. the past 30 years have well proven that there's no causality there -- yes people who were born male i nthe past also coincidentally later developped into enviable positions. but the maleness was not germane, as proven by the sad scum that is just as biologically male born these days, and holds all the p [20:59]
mircea_popescu: ower and prestige of used dishwashing sponges. [20:59]
mircea_popescu: but as the old saying goes, "if anyobne's selling it, you don't want to buy it". [21:00]
asciilifeform: 'spiffy jet you got there. now let's see how well it flies WITHOUT ENGINES muhahahhaa' [21:00]
mircea_popescu: in other "lottery winning", for the past half hour while taking shower i've been mulling over the dilemma of whether i can be arsed to go over to fine restaurant have their absolutely fabulous porterhouse or not really. [21:01]
mircea_popescu: obviously puţong yao doesn't know what he doesn't know, and consequently his lowly herbivore status remains enviable in his mind only. [21:02]
asciilifeform: inevitable q, aha, is what exactly the dazed confucian d00d finds 'enviable' [21:03]
mircea_popescu: well, a lot of other women sitting around gossiping about how enviable she is, evidently. [21:03]
mircea_popescu: since i'm supposed to believe that "quotas are exceeded" is some kind of argument. [21:03]
mircea_popescu: tell you what, the pancreatic cancer quotas are routinely exceeded each year since 1972 also! [21:04]
mircea_popescu: that's why they're quotas in the first fucking place : undesirable activities, harmful for everyone. if they weren't, they... wouldn't be quotas, holy hell. [21:04]
asciilifeform: fwiw ( and supposing the item is true as written ) i dun get why usg would say no to an idjit willing to pay $mil to move to usgistan [21:06]
mircea_popescu: throws the curve. same reason kids dun want mp to move into their class. [21:06]
asciilifeform: hm. [21:06]
mircea_popescu: azn with 1mn to throw around is like salt for the ivy mills. [21:06]
mircea_popescu: at least if he's poor -- then some sort of kowtowing could perhaps be instilled. and even so... [21:07]
asciilifeform: that'd explain why the quota appears to be filled by camelfuckers [21:07]
mircea_popescu: yes. [21:07]
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would anyone with two neurons to rub together ~actually want~ to work for costco is impossible to divine. it's a dead, commoditized item, that's like research physicist desiring to work at cnc mill. wtf to do there ? [21:08]
mircea_popescu: makes me suspect entirely engineered item, it dun stand up to plain reading. [21:08]
mircea_popescu: ~every chinese mba i ever met however remotely wants to work for three-white-names-you-never-heard-of financfial firm. [21:08]
asciilifeform: aha, but in the linked item conveniently replaced with goldmansachs [21:09]
mircea_popescu: which doesn't either hire them or is sought by them [21:09]
mircea_popescu: gs hires ivy spew, and quite plainly and deliberately. [21:09]
asciilifeform: nomenklatura. [21:10]
mircea_popescu: if they had a kickbacks scheme with eg stanford bs i would be utterly unsuirprised. [21:10]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite. whereas where the smart azn kids wanna go is into the firms "retired" ex gs doods start. [21:10]
mircea_popescu: the sort with 10 employees and 10bn in "cash". [21:10]
mircea_popescu: i guess actually this'd be the best approximation for tmsr currently, at that. [21:10]
mircea_popescu: in fiat terms [21:11]
asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj [21:12]
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel [21:12]
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. [21:12]
mircea_popescu: i think this takes the cake. yo why TRIPLE on/off login wtf is this [21:13]
asciilifeform: ikr? [21:13]
asciilifeform: d00d must be on a propane-powered modem [21:13]
gabriel_laddel: Just got out of jail, in SF, scored & M install [21:13]
gabriel_laddel: not caught up on logs [21:13]
asciilifeform: lol!! [21:13]
asciilifeform: jail for what [21:13]
gabriel_laddel: on roof wasn't supposed to be on [21:14]
gabriel_laddel: (working) [21:14]
mircea_popescu: "farting and landing" patch on "breaking and entering" ? [21:14]
gabriel_laddel: I was computing so they stuck me into mental.. no charge [21:15]
gabriel_laddel: police were impressed with me [21:15]
mircea_popescu: well that's something. [21:15]
asciilifeform: lucky job, gabriel_laddel , iirc last d00d with laptop-on-roof was hanged ( aron schwarz ) [21:16]
mircea_popescu: east coast neh ? [21:17]
asciilifeform: aha, mit [21:17]
mircea_popescu: shittier place, the east coast. [21:17]
gabriel_laddel: PG was right about CA fwiw. temp matters [21:19]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile somewhere else, [21:20]
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: waiwat [21:21]
asciilifeform: matters for what [21:21]
gabriel_laddel: [21:21]
mircea_popescu: if that nonsense were true costa rica would consist of 50% of the world's tech minds. [21:23]
mircea_popescu: it isn't. [21:23]
asciilifeform: << obligthread [21:24]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 15:01 asciilifeform: for some reason the beautiful equatorial mild valley bananistans, never grew anything in the way of interesting ~people~ [21:24]
mircea_popescu: california exists principally out of having (accidentally, but nevertheless) well managed the gold rush. [21:24]
mircea_popescu: sparked off accidentally with actual gold, then supported pre and post ww2 by the choice of film industry to move away from the mob rackets (and they succeeded, when the mob caught on and tried to invade the movie folk got the usg to tear it a new hole) and finally post 1960 by the ic folk. [21:25]
mircea_popescu: the "web 2.0" "mobile" etc "revolutions" however failed to catch, so its port is getting sanded as we speak. [21:26]
asciilifeform: 100% printolade-powered, today. [21:28]
mircea_popescu: yes but so is zimbabwe [21:30]
mircea_popescu: anyuay, the quoted piece from a 1990s bit from a local landlord. as such it reflects the predominantly hopeful mood of the landed gentry at the time "yes, it's a downturn portion of a cycle but that's what cycles are". [21:31]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile however the 90s turned into the 00s and in turn into the 10s and well... [21:31]
mircea_popescu: no cycle. [21:31]
asciilifeform: printer prints, prints, nonstop tho. hence 'space station' square metrage price. [21:32]
mircea_popescu: sure. [21:32]
* asciilifeform many times offered work in ca, equally many times refused. 'tell me why i should take the double pay , so as to pay 3x for flat, and it will have roaches , why ? ' [21:33]
asciilifeform: what do folx need to have inside their crankcase, to swallow it. [21:34]
asciilifeform: as it is, i haven't even mustered the givingashit to go there as pure tourist [21:35]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you aware the colorful ( of lolz) manson fellow ended up with like two dozen under-20 chicks in tow ? [21:35]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 20:34 mircea_popescu: incidentally, can anyone recount teh helter-skelter charlie mason scenario of risk, the game of world-diplomacy and international intrigue ? [21:35]
mircea_popescu: "what did they have in crankcase ?" you ask ? drugs, man. [21:35]
asciilifeform: aha, iirc d00d died recently [21:35]
mircea_popescu: yea [21:35]
asciilifeform: iirc also was never shown to have nailed anyone with own hands, or even contracted. [21:36]
mircea_popescu: indeed not. [21:36]
mircea_popescu: but i mean, REMARKABLY fucking idiotic. dude's idea was that rando movie star is important, on the basis of i dunno, all he ever read was vanity fair i guess [21:38]
mircea_popescu: or not even. fucking vogue, something. who even thought rando what's-her-husbands-name is important in the 60s ? [21:38]
asciilifeform: the heads of people-without-theorems, unless properly embedded into some variant of peasantry/army/slavery, will grow fungal bloom [21:39]
asciilifeform: and it will look like this, or like camelfuck variant, or like any other. [21:39]
asciilifeform: hell, bernstein et al ~with~ theorems still went to ~same place. [21:40]
mircea_popescu: so is your question answered then ? [21:40]
asciilifeform: possibly. [21:40]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in forgotten lulz, [22:11]
mircea_popescu: apparently "goodbye" doesn't mean goodbye in EXACTLY the same way no doesn't mean no. [22:11]
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