Forum logs for 03 Jul 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/terribilibad/ << Trilema - Terribilibad [00:31]
lobbes: !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q2/hanbot_payment_receipt_bundled.txt [02:08]
deedbot: accepted: 1 [02:08]
lobbes: !!v 4A21B9688BBB467C121F434897F806D31E34A3611071A63EE4BC99D5010B3D46 [02:09]
deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.00003889 << http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q1/diana_coman.txt http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q2/diana_coman.txt [02:09]
mircea_popescu: wtf i thought i v'd it [02:27]
mircea_popescu: lobbes "<deedbot> mircea_popescu paid lobbes invoice 1" [02:27]
mircea_popescu: a damn, i bet this wasn't first invoice. aite ima look into this tomorro. [02:28]
diana_coman: lobbes, I don't follow I paid the Q1 invoice http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802318 so what bundled? [03:00]
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 22:21 diana_coman: !!pay-invoice lobbes 1 [03:00]
diana_coman: ftr I checked and it shows in ledger too so it clearly went through [03:01]
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-530288.txt [03:15]
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831316 <-- I'd contemplated adding a small gc, but I gotta do some reading on the subj before making a decision. so it's still open to discussion, and I'll study the log threads while I'm at it. [05:37]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 16:52 mircea_popescu: spyked re http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/074-adalisp-prototype.html what if anything do you plan to do re memory management ? gc in particular, but not just. [05:37]
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831324 <-- oh I see! I'ma keep this in mind. [05:39]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 17:24 mircea_popescu: i'm looking for roads into the os. could be from phf's emacs, could be from spyked 's lisp, could be from your arms, could be from whatever the fuck ends up working. [05:39]
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831425 <-- to add to the list of weird behaviours: ada "get char" function doesn't eat newlines, so when typing a number alone, say: echo "42" | ./test_repl , nothing'll happen. user must add an explicit space after the number. [05:44]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 22:34 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831410 << his work in progress parser doesn't handle end of file, so as of right now the error is normal [05:44]
spyked: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812182 , I am happy to report that the may-june shithub harvest is over. sadly, I was about a month off in my estimations ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814257 ), a lesson for me to not trust initial figures: in the first days, my harvester was doing 3-4 keys/s, while a couple of weeks later teh githubs started rate-limiting, or worse, cutting off connections arbitrarily. [05:50]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 14:53 spyked: can confirm it worx: e.g. https://api.github.com/users?since=46 returns users starting from id 47. [05:50]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 10:15 spyked: ftr, I've gathered about 700k keys in the last 3-4 days if the total number hasn't changed too much from the previous 6.9M, I estimate I should have all of them in 20-30 days from now. [05:50]
spyked: anyways, I am working on putting the ssh keys in the proper format and preparing the full report, there's some extra lulz to be extracted from this experience. [05:51]
lobbes: diana_coman: ah yup. right you are. Error on my record-keeping end. I'll cancel that one and issue a new one later tonight [10:30]
diana_coman: lobbes, cool, thanks [10:30]
* lobbes was staring directly at his !!sent-invoices too. must've been lack-of-sleep brain [10:31]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.li/mt8rj << google, just as i expected, working on using cr50 to abolish the 'at least can boot own linux' 'hole' entirely [11:31]
asciilifeform: ( there's '9000+' possible ways to do this, and without changing pcb layout at all already the thing can inspect fw, ram, etc. and reset the box if it doesn't like what it finds ) [11:32]
asciilifeform: in the fritz business, they call it 'attestation' [11:32]
mircea_popescu: spyked evidently, if adalisp isn't tabletop systems engineering, then what is it. [11:47]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, at least it does no evil, amirite. [11:49]
asciilifeform: lolly [11:56]
mircea_popescu: trinque lobbes in other weird : <deedbot> Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.00010742 which i paid, and which shows in ledger as me having paid him 00100800. [12:00]
mircea_popescu: at first i looked for a weird bug that turns 010742 into 100800 buyt then it turned out he had already sent me an invoice, for that amt, back in oct 2017, which i re-paid [12:01]
mircea_popescu: so trinque could it be possible to not be possible to pay the same invoice twice cuz that's the point of invoices in the first place, they should die once paid [12:01]
mircea_popescu: and lobbes don't invoice for 9 digit figures because bitcoin has 8 digits! [12:01]
mircea_popescu: and also, you wanna pay me the extra back in ecu in eurloa or keep it on books as prepayment for future auctions ? [12:02]
trinque: yeah that's certainly a bug, will fix. [12:02]
trinque: fixed! [12:04]
mircea_popescu: ty! [12:05]
asciilifeform: that was fast [12:05]
mircea_popescu: AAA+++ service would bug again [12:05]
mircea_popescu: trinque aaand if that can be relied upon, can i also rely on the semantics of !!pay-invoice lobbes 1 to pay the !~first curtrently outstanding~ invoice [12:07]
mircea_popescu: thereby freeing me from a) the need to dns-check and b) the need to communicate my kyc history every time i pay ? [12:07]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in barnum's 'suckers born erry minute', https://archive.li/3CVPx >> '...posing as admins, mods, or other key figures in the cryptocurrency world, posting messages that urged users to type a long command inside their Mac terminal, claiming to help with various problems..' etc [12:08]
asciilifeform: 'key figures' didjaknow. [12:08]
mircea_popescu: there's been a definite uptick in schmucks trying to pretend they're me on fetlife. and i suppose similarly on obscure webshits i don't know about. [12:09]
trinque: mircea_popescu: the invoice number thing is baked a little more deeply than what I just changed. what do you think of "!!pay-invoice lobbes" with no integer to mean "first received and outstanding" ? [12:11]
mircea_popescu: im all for it. [12:12]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kinda hard to picture what the pretense wins for'em [12:12]
trinque: cool, will do [12:13]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ill publish later a sad story, should make it obvious to you. [12:13]
asciilifeform: 'hi, i'm mircea_popescu , send me 1btc and i will bless you with magical mircea_popescuinity powerz' ? [12:13]
mircea_popescu: trinque this also gives teeth to the reject-invoice semantics, because you'd better fucking reject the ones you don't intend to pay [12:13]
mircea_popescu: est you end up paying them later [12:13]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you wanna write out a prediction, you got about an hour or so ? [12:13]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am at a loss for prediction, aside from above [12:14]
mircea_popescu: aite, ima prep it. [12:14]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-catfishing-story/ << Trilema - The catfishing story [13:19]
trinque: wahahaha, ok, who trolled this girl? fess up. [13:30]
asciilifeform: twist : what if was a hand-cranked mitm. [13:30]
asciilifeform: pose as gurl, to mircea_popescu , pipeline to/from gurl2 [13:30]
asciilifeform: a la douchebag [13:31]
mircea_popescu: ikr ? [13:31]
* asciilifeform pictures a N-height pile of these [13:31]
asciilifeform: picture the exhaust end of this pipe. [13:32]
mircea_popescu: to quote from item in http://trilema.com/2018/so-whats-out-there/ : "Its only good in major city's .. Here's some tips ,copy and paste Dom profiles not in your area . You wouldn't believe how many cute girls msg me because of my profile ... " [13:32]
mircea_popescu: indian can't be arsed to figure out english plural but knows from his mula & stramula how "anonimity" works for cock roaches. [13:33]
mircea_popescu: but this aside, the "i will bless" africana is also present, and has been, for a long time. eg http://trilema.com/2013/a-deal-can-be-anything/#selection-27.0-27.105 [13:43]
mircea_popescu: back when doge counted as an exemplar. [13:43]
mircea_popescu: the ethereum of 2013. [13:43]
mircea_popescu: neways, bbl. [13:45]
mod6: this catfish story! [14:54]
mod6: <+trinque> wahahaha, ok, who trolled this girl? fess up. << LOL right?! [14:54]
mod6: i about spit out my mineral water when I saw the wired/openbsd link [14:54]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831431 << looks like it indeed was a loose screw. reassembling the thing fixed the issue [15:22]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-03 01:07 mircea_popescu: loose screw ? [15:22]
asciilifeform: ha [15:23]
BingoBoingo: And the fiber is here [15:44]
mod6: nice! [15:51]
asciilifeform: congrats BingoBoingo [16:00]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/ugandans-evading-social-media-tax/ << Qntra - Ugandans Evading Social Media Tax [16:24]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re ^ -- imho vpnism is even lulzier than torism. at least the tor suckers dun have to pay for it. [16:51]
asciilifeform: the popularity of vpnism was always a puzzler to asciilifeform . [16:52]
deedbot: http://trinque.org/2018/07/03/brief-hiatus-on-withdraw/ << trinque - Brief hiatus on Deedbot Wallet !!withdraw [16:53]
trinque: inb4 omg gox!!11 [16:53]
asciilifeform: lol [16:53]
asciilifeform: trinque going to sea or wat [16:53]
trinque: for all anyone knows I'll be sitting behind the front door with a shotgun for 7 days [16:54]
trinque: will say upon return [16:54]
asciilifeform: hey thats as good vacation as any [16:54]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That it is. [17:18]
BingoBoingo: In other news, lines at the gas station like I haven't seen since 9-11 [17:18]
BingoBoingo: And in still other local news: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/la-whiskeria-luna-roja-pidio-disculpas-sortear-una-chica-gratis-n1250956 [17:25]
BingoBoingo: "La whiskería Luna Roja, denunciada por organizar una promoción con motivo del Mundial en el que sorteaba "una chica gratis" pidió disculpas por la iniciativa. A través de su cuenta de Facebook señalaron que lamentan el episodio y que no fue la intención "herir la sensibilidad de nadie"" [17:26]
asciilifeform: whiskeria lol [17:28]
BingoBoingo: Ah, and found out why the cars are lined up. Gasoline is going up 9% but "Supergas" (propane) is not [17:32]
asciilifeform: in other interesting rtfm's, 'The GNAT compiler supports dimensionality checking. The user can specify physical units for objects, and the compiler will verify that uses of these objects are compatible with their dimensions, in a fashion that is familiar to engineering practice. The dimensions of algebraic expressions (including powers with static exponents) are computed from their constituents.' (ch. 6.5) [19:35]
asciilifeform: ( https://docs.adacore.com/gnat_ugn-docs/html/gnat_ugn/gnat_ugn/gnat_and_program_execution.html#performing-dimensionality-analysis-in-gnat for the interested gnatologist ) [19:36]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831567 << militant technological illiteracy ftw!!1 [19:45]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-03 19:22 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831431 << looks like it indeed was a loose screw. reassembling the thing fixed the issue [19:45]
asciilifeform: lol [19:45]
asciilifeform: sad part is, thing really does have a gyro. but asciilifeform does not currently know what, if anything, the enemy fw does with the output. [19:46]
asciilifeform: magnetometer, too [19:46]
asciilifeform: ( current-day chipset makers are very much of the same 'why not' mentality as the bloaty software folx ) [19:47]
mircea_popescu: i believe. yet... [19:47]
asciilifeform: for instance, the days of desolderable microphone are coming to a close, on-die 'mems' mikes are coming. [19:48]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831586 << i don't recall, is prostitution legal there too ? [19:49]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-03 21:26 BingoBoingo: "La whiskería Luna Roja, denunciada por organizar una promoción con motivo del Mundial en el que sorteaba "una chica gratis" pidió disculpas por la iniciativa. A través de su cuenta de Facebook señalaron que lamentan el episodio y que no fue la intención "herir la sensibilidad de nadie"" [19:49]
asciilifeform: ( gyro, btw, demonstrably doubles as a mike, usg has a well-developed and afaik somewhat successful 'audio bug via pnoje gyro' thing ) [19:49]
asciilifeform: good for picking up, e.g., nearby kbd presses [19:50]
asciilifeform: in other interesting rtfm's, https://docs.adacore.com/gnat_ugn-docs/html/gnat_ugn/gnat_ugn/building_executable_programs_with_gnat.html#style-checking << it is possible to trigger enforcement of, e.g., max line width, absence of winblowz linefeeds, tabs, etc [19:53]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo Total : 2276 << ftr, wrong. [21:38]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/qntra-sqntr-june-2018-statement/ << Trilema - Qntra (S.QNTR) June 2018 Statement [21:58]
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