Forum logs for 30 Nov 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [08:08]
gribble Current Blocks: 332248 | Current Difficulty: 4.03000303278914E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 332639 | Next Difficulty In: 391 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 51 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 40003072562.1 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.73687 [08:08]
mircea_popescu 4! [08:10]
mircea_popescu so here's an idea i just had : if one were to take a gas with favourable properties (such as high phase lambda, low evaporation temperature, stuff like that) and put a bunch of it liquefied in a canister [08:11]
mircea_popescu then open up an outlet in a convenient atmosphere, such as where a mist machine is working, or maybe just very humid tropical climate, [08:12]
mircea_popescu as the gas expanding sucks heat out of the canister, ice forms, which insulates, so eventually the gas coming out the outlet is itself supercooled, sucking the heat out of the atmosphere and making ice in random patterns. baiscally, "self-building ice tree" [08:13]
mircea_popescu perhaps works even better at the bottom of a shallow lake. "self-reorganising lake". [08:13]
mircea_popescu in any case... the high fantasy power of the ice / frost mage, at your fingertips. all you need is a compressor. [08:13]
mircea_popescu should make for pretty decent shows for like, corporate parties and expensive weddings and whatnot. And now, Billy Bob, the Ice Mage! [08:14]
mircea_popescu does anyone currently do this ? [08:14]
* cazalla cast frost shock [08:18]
mircea_popescu lol [08:18]
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mircea_popescu jurov: this is the undoing of C.. due to its memory unsafety they must decide to either bloat the kernel or suffer the overhead <<< out of the 10`000 billion lines of commentary written on the "usg is making up money and giving it to redhat to implement its policies ; whereby control economy is now called "do-ocracy" topic the past year or so, yours is the first one to actually be fucking sensible. [08:22]
mircea_popescu because yes, there fucking IS more to it than just the politicals of uncle sam going "o hai linux guise, you has some cattle of mine, taking them back kthxbye" [08:22]
mircea_popescu !up awt [08:23]
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mircea_popescu undata: please take my course on the above for only 10 BTC << too cheap to work. [08:27]
undata mircea_popescu: damn, you're right. priced myself way below the life-coach/motivational market [08:28]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: yes because even more pretending will save the world << my fucking thoughts exactly. [08:28]
mircea_popescu undata see, this is why you should go work for me making 0.18 btc an hour. [08:28]
mircea_popescu while derping at conferences about how you're what was it, "transcending" [08:28]
undata haha, not bad money [08:29]
mircea_popescu ;;seen asciilifeform [08:29]
gribble asciilifeform was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 7 hours, 55 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: ben_vulpes: i never understood the 'happy hacking keyboard' and imitators. being as i live and die by function keys, the more the merrier. why voluntarily have fewer? [08:29]
mircea_popescu this is how i know i'm not a programmer. i have not actually pressed any F key in... uh. months ? [08:30]
mircea_popescu cuz wtf for. [08:30]
undata better to program programmers, or so I hear [08:32]
mircea_popescu decimation: [08:33]
mircea_popescu "If the Treasury were forced to convert the $1.4 trillion in short-term bills (on which it now pays an average interest rate of 0.056 percent) into 30-year bonds at the average rate it is now paying on such bonds (4.919 percent) the interest on that $1.4 trillion in debt would increase 88-fold." <<< this is wreaking untold havoc on the entire known world, incidentally .it's not just the disruption it WILL cause as it u [08:33]
mircea_popescu nwinds. [08:33]
mircea_popescu that's the small part. the big part is the disruption it has already caused, and it continues to cause each passing day. [08:33]
decimation In my opinion, usg's crimes are not 'active' in the sense that they scheme with redhat for evil - usg's crime is that if failed to use the resources and human talent at its disposal to advance the art of computing at all [08:33]
mircea_popescu like the stuff discussed above re usg agency redhat, fuycking up linux. EXACTLY the stiuation of the giant ruining a chair. [08:34]
mircea_popescu linux is a nice comfortable chair. after red hat is done sitting in it, it will perhaps be still usable. maybe. like the woman that delivered a baby hippo will still make a good wife. [08:34]
mircea_popescu add to that all the idiots living off "free money" that was GIVEN tro them, while selling themselves on and trying to sell everyone else on how they're "making a positive impact" [08:35]
mircea_popescu the sheer amount of plain idiocy being imported into the software of the world by this avenue far exceeds all the idiocy that could ever be imported into openssh or the kernel. [08:35]
mircea_popescu because people do this, there's idiots whose careers are entirelyt constructed out of "advising start-ups", like undata is keenly aware. [08:35]
undata painfully so [08:36]
mircea_popescu there's nothing more corrosive to a state, and a society, and ultimately a culture, than fake money. it's the curse of fucking doom, you don't even need enemies if you got that. [08:36]
undata mircea_popescu: it makes people unable to think! [08:36]
decimation a very small part of the us population has any idea what it really means to economically run a business (turn a profit), and that part isn't in power [08:37]
mircea_popescu it's like nobody bothers to wish ill on the cancer patient. that's why russia and china are not even remotely interested in a large scale war. [08:37]
mircea_popescu just wait the scaroma victim out. [08:37]
decimation heh china is happy to buy the paper actually [08:37]
undata I have literally screamed "We need to make money!" at multiple jobs before setting out on my own. [08:37]
mircea_popescu and, unlike the fucking pretense and idiocy now current in the white world, [08:37]
mircea_popescu neither russians nor chinese are all that ethnically blind. [08:37]
undata the US "tech economy" is filled with rabbits who think the food and water just fills itself. [08:38]
mircea_popescu the day will come when being white will actually be exactly what the white supremacists feed themselves out of fearing : a handicap. [08:38]
decimation undata: from the outside, I've see the 'startup' debt-funding culture creates all sorts of weird behaviors [08:38]
mircea_popescu undata pretty much, it's almost as if cazalla's farm decided to enact itself into a "tech scene" [08:38]
mircea_popescu who'd care, right ? cazalla wouldn't even know. [08:38]
undata when I was 19 I was drummed out of a ruby on rails startup for my aforementioned rant [08:38]
decimation like, why not re-engineer a product from scratch when we could buy it off the shelf, because we have slaves working for us and we don't need to show positive cash flow! [08:39]
undata the company collapsed a month or two later [08:39]
undata they were seeking being bought out as their only strategy [08:39]
mircea_popescu perhaps not understanding that "give me free money" only works for that kid, with the truck. [08:39]
mircea_popescu and even then, it's hit-and-miss [08:40]
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undata doesn't seem like you can correct "cannot think" [08:40]
decimation as Mr. Yarvin (and many others) have pointed out, the bottom line is that the us as a going concern (then entire economy) is a money losing proposition [08:41]
undata or to be more specific than that, it's "thinks his own imagination somehow directly affects reality" [08:41]
mircea_popescu decimation since carter at least. yes. and there's no way out of this. [08:41]
mircea_popescu nor, since there's no way out, is there any incentive to do anything but worsen it. [08:42]
mircea_popescu undata aka magic. [08:42]
mircea_popescu yes, you can't readily cure magic. which is why africa is and will remain africa. [08:42]
decimation nope. His analogy was something like: if you have a russian factory that's losing money - you take a haircut on operations and attempt to make it profitable [08:42]
decimation if that fails, the most rational option is to split up the assets and sell them off [08:43]
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decimation which is kinda happening to the us on a slow scale [08:43]
mircea_popescu incidentally, all the people trained to hate the supreme sacred congregation of the holy office and their historical activities : [08:43]
mircea_popescu the rteason the civilise west exists is specifically because fucking idiots got burned at the stake for being fucking idiots. [08:43]
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undata terrible gardening, letting anything grow anywhere it wants [08:44]
mircea_popescu undata yeah. good luck moving lovage, mint, rosemary, walnuts, etc. [08:44]
mircea_popescu not so easy :) [08:44]
mircea_popescu anyway, unrelated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ryo-cd-EU [08:45]
assbot German beer song - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/11EYJTQ ) [08:45]
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decimation natural law re-asserts itself, eventually [08:46]
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mircea_popescu decimation excellent find, the euclid case. [09:01]
mircea_popescu yes, it's a landmark failure of the us legal system to protect the us the us pretends to be. [09:01]
mircea_popescu obviously sin breeds sin, had the generation of justices called to protect their country in the 1920s done a good job of it, the following generation wouldn't have seen itself confronted with "the government has stolen people's gold, whatcha gonna do about it" [09:02]
mircea_popescu ( http://trilema.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/ etc) [09:02]
assbot The endless story of Korea. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pBtiVt ) [09:03]
mircea_popescu aka Perry v. United States, 294 U.S. 330 (1935) [09:03]
punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgXLEM8MhJo [09:04]
assbot Angelo Badalamenti explains how he wrote "Laura Palmer's Theme" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1pBtwft ) [09:04]
punkman mornin' [09:04]
mircea_popescu ello [09:05]
mircea_popescu "Why? I think there are several reasons. One is that being mean makes you stupid. That's why I hate fights. You never do your best work in a fight, because fights are not sufficiently general. Winning is always a function of the situation and the people involved. You don't win fights by thinking of big ideas but by thinking of tricks that work in one particular case. And yet fighting is just as much work as thinking ab [09:05]
mircea_popescu out real problems. Which is particularly painful to someone who cares how their brain is used: your brain goes fast but you get nowhere, like a car spinning its wheels." [09:05]
mircea_popescu apparently graham has not done his pascal reading. how about that lol. [09:05]
mircea_popescu "Another reason mean founders lose is that they can't get the best people to work for them. They can hire people who will put up with them because they need a job. But the best people have other options. A mean person can't convince the best people to work for him unless he is super convincing. And while having the best people helps any organization, it's critical for startups." [09:06]
mircea_popescu this is like saying "you can't get cool people to hang out in places where there's fire because fgire burns". [09:06]
mircea_popescu depends a fucking helluvalot WHAT, or as the case may be whom. the "best people" that are attracted to spineless idiots are never successful. [09:06]
mircea_popescu the people who manage to distinguish the effectually ruthless from the merely psychopathic always come out ahead, whether they're otherwise great or not, intelligent or not, whatever their situation may be. [09:07]
mircea_popescu there is of course also this (perhaps not entirely uninterested, perhaps even progressive-wetdream, perhaps actually correct) theory that ruthlessness rusts over time, and in the end you're always left with a psychopath. [09:10]
mircea_popescu of course, even should that be the merely unavoidable flow of things, proposing to stick with "nice people" as a palliative is not unlike proposing to stop eating because well, eating will in due course bring about your death. [09:11]
mircea_popescu studying diets seems a saner approach. [09:11]
mircea_popescu at least, this was the approach favoured by socrates and his school (platon, aristotel). which brings us back to the problem with paul graham : he is exactly the sort of scandalous ignoramus the us produces these days. [09:12]
mircea_popescu the problems he considers are in fact very rudimentary restatements of ancient considerations, and his complete unawareness of the space readily gives me ground to say "being a progressive makes you stupid". [09:13]
mircea_popescu which, empirically, it would seem to. [09:13]
punkman he has all kinds of stupid essays [09:13]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/anonymous-derpage/ [09:13]
assbot Anonymous derpage pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pBuh84 ) [09:14]
mircea_popescu that problem, you know ? "o noes, james smith has reinveted the wheel!" [09:14]
mircea_popescu "come see paul graham read aramaic at the bottom of his start-up hat, and then translate it with the herpimm and the derpimm, two magical entrepreneurial stones from ancient egypt." [09:14]
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decimation heh well maybe he found it on a random hill [09:18]
mircea_popescu anyway, looking at it from the other angle, "check out what incredible cultural gymnastics the socialists need to justify and defend their ludicrous dogmas" [09:18]
mircea_popescu indeed : in order for the "only nice people" mantra to be "supported" after a fashion, one needs to be not only completely ignorant of the classics, but not even realise that the fucking central subject both in their writings and in their own, stated estimation, was "how to rule people", and this is in no small part a consideration of what they call "mean". [09:19]
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mircea_popescu a total fucking misnomer, by the way, what they mean is "ruthless". mean denotes something else, it's a sort of spiritual cheapness. [09:20]
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mircea_popescu i get why it'd be nice for ruthlesness to carry the connotations meanness properly does. however, something being nice doesn't really do anything. if only it did, then the nice people'd be like mages, calling forth reality out of their fucking song. [09:20]
undata this "niceness" thing strikes me as a euphemism for obedient, if not to an explicit master then to the ubiquitous American religion of going with the flow [09:21]
decimation the us is ruled by the ruthless; they just never show their face to the public and never appear on camera [09:21]
undata portland tech startups are filled with such pussies; people are astoundingly offendable [09:21]
mircea_popescu well, it's difficult to circumscribe it, seeing how it's a word with no definition enacted by usage of a tribe that's not particularly thinking-inclined. but i would say "niceness" mostly denotes a sort of bovine passivity. [09:22]
mircea_popescu he is nice who does not ever act upon any other. [09:22]
mircea_popescu basically, it'll build a great 1700s india, this niceness. [09:22]
undata nobody will fight with you in a US tech company [09:22]
mircea_popescu decimation everything everywhere is ruled by the ruthless. that's why the simple were promised the kingdom of heaven [09:22]
undata I am too young to know whether this was always the case [09:22]
decimation well, Mr. Yarvin is quick to point out that it only took 1000 british civil servants to rule all of said india [09:22]
mircea_popescu not, like the jews, the kingdom of caldeea or w.e [09:22]
undata but I've always wanted to be in an environment where people would fight each other for the best idea [09:23]
mircea_popescu you are lol. [09:23]
decimation the whole idea of democracy is that the true power is obfuscated [09:23]
undata oh, right. [09:23]
mircea_popescu decimation monarchy too lol. [09:23]
mircea_popescu true power is always obfuscated. [09:23]
mircea_popescu in the simplest form : "don't call us, we'll call you" [09:23]
decimation heh yeah [09:23]
mircea_popescu power is necessarily unidirectional, by definition. [09:23]
mircea_popescu to be unidirectional it has to manifest some subset of properties of invisibility, somehow. [09:24]
decimation yeah, power without some kind of exclusivity isn't power [09:24]
decimation I just stumbled on this webpage: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/ << apparently there is an organization of us military who will keep their 'oath' to the constitution [09:24]
assbot Oath Keepers » Oath Keepers – Guardians of the Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1rIUPQJ ) [09:24]
mircea_popescu that got started right after 2001 [09:25]
mircea_popescu iirc. [09:25]
decimation yeah reading what some of them think it's obvious they spout nonsense [09:25]
mircea_popescu i never actually went that far. [09:25]
mircea_popescu who the fuck are the centurions to write lmao. [09:25]
decimation so, the head guy is a lawyer who assisted with the ron paul campaign [09:26]
undata also demonstrates the pervasive belief that talk = action [09:26]
undata "having your voice heard"!!! [09:26]
mircea_popescu lol [09:26]
undata reminds me of the idiots that marched in downtown portland in response to ferguson [09:26]
mircea_popescu no, see, magical thinking strikes again,. [09:27]
undata you know, in an orderly fashion, mostly obedient to cops, etc [09:27]
mircea_popescu "if only our prayers were HEARD" [09:27]
punkman http://oathkeepers.org/oath/pledge/ lol [09:27]
assbot Oath Keepers Pledge ... ( http://bit.ly/1rIUWf5 ) [09:27]
mircea_popescu yea, wat then ? god'll think you'r somewhere between offensively stupid and hysterically funny. [09:27]
decimation yeah, that's their exact problem, if they were to take any document-able action it would be counted as treason and usg would slam down [09:27]
undata mircea_popescu: wow... "god" the imaginary aggregate of democratic demands [09:27]
mircea_popescu of course ? [09:28]
undata certainly, it's just sickening [09:28]
mircea_popescu that figure is always the same figure, not like psychology is now going to fucking progress or something. [09:28]
decimation sorry for the moldbug link, but he sums it up well: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/actual-letter-to-liberal-friend.html << "Peasants see a patron-client relationship between the gentlemen and the varlets - a relationship not at all unlike the late Roman relationship of _clientela_, where a patrician measured his social status by the vast army of plebeians that battened on his trenches. Again, what to the [09:28]
mircea_popescu and besides, very deeply human thing, someone on his knees in a church or behind a tree or somehting, "please, i can't take this" [09:28]
decimation gentleman appears as a noble act of charity, compassion, etc, to the coarse and cynical peasant reveals itself as a purchase of political power, with his tax dollars if not his physical safety. Therefore a vision of the gallows arises in his hindbrain." [09:28]
assbot Unqualified Reservations: Actual letter to a liberal friend ... ( http://bit.ly/1rIV1Q2 ) [09:28]
undata mircea_popescu: seems like a person who has been broken merely by realizing the fact of his own existence [09:29]
mircea_popescu lol what the fuck else ? [09:29]
mircea_popescu there is nothing besides the fact of one's own existence. [09:29]
undata yes but broken by it? [09:30]
undata what kind of animal is that [09:30]
mircea_popescu well... you know that saying that, "given an artefact and a situation, the artefact will either work or it won't" ? [09:30]
mircea_popescu sometimes it gets broken by it, yes. [09:30]
mircea_popescu decimation maybe. how do you proceed from there ? [09:30]
decimation heh well he didn't have much in that direction [09:31]
decimation pretty much "the peasants realize they are being fucked and are pissed, but can do nothing" [09:31]
mircea_popescu see, it's a summary, for sure, and it has what to stand on, but it's not necessarily the case that its footing will support any ulterior conclusion. [09:31]
mircea_popescu so it's one of those, "maybe, depends where you aim to take it" [09:31]
mircea_popescu nah. [09:31]
mircea_popescu looky at a simile : two hot 17 yos : a redhead with perky tits, a brunette with butt to die for. [09:32]
mircea_popescu the guy they both like goes for one, or the other. [09:32]
mircea_popescu the one (or the other) sees true love. the other (or the one) sees just sheer stupidity on his part and the nefariousness of that one (or the other) witch. [09:32]
mircea_popescu what, someone's correct in this mess ? [09:33]
decimation Yeah that's a good point. It goes back to the position of the french nobility ca. 1789 [09:33]
mircea_popescu if obama comes to power and gives a bunch of tax money to a bunch of cronies, the democratic activists will see justice being done, and the republicans corruption. [09:34]
mircea_popescu had the other schmuck won, idem. [09:34]
mircea_popescu just, the other way around. [09:34]
decimation Possibly. I get the feeling that republicans tend to be more ideological though [09:34]
undata naaaw [09:34]
mircea_popescu how do you measure ideologicalness ? [09:34]
decimation well, one can ask humans what they think, but does that reveal anything? [09:35]
mircea_popescu "Tom Reagan: I am awake. Tad: Your eyes are shut. Tom Reagan: Who you gonna believe?" [09:36]
decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2014#848621 [09:36]
assbot Logged on 28-09-2014 04:06:55; decimation: and this one. http://www.vox.com/2014/9/15/6131919/democrats-and-republicans-really-are-different "And they note that while voters tend to agree with Republicans on the philosophical questions in American politics (should government be smaller?) they tend to agree with Democrats on the policy questions in American politics (like should Social Security be smaller?)." [09:36]
undata the ideology of both parties is selling the US out to whoever has paid them [09:37]
mircea_popescu this, incidentally, underpins all winner-loser scenarios on the broader timescale in all politcal systems to date. [09:37]
mircea_popescu the losers are "principled" and the winners are distributing largesse out of the public goods. [09:37]
mircea_popescu because an election still is an advance auction of stolen goods. [09:37]
mircea_popescu so you know, either the redheaded or the brunette is busy squealing, while the other's sitting in a corner thinking of jesus and sin. [09:38]
mircea_popescu and for that matter : in the 70s ? dude totally the voter agreed "philosophically" with the progressives. [09:38]
mircea_popescu just didn't vote with 'em. [09:38]
undata yep, things like "o no abortion" on the "right" are just marketing [09:39]
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undata http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/11/10/voter-turnout-in-2014-was-the-lowest-since-wwii/ [09:42]
assbot Voter turnout in 2014 was the lowest since WWII - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1rIW6r1 ) [09:42]
undata though the marketing is getting less effective, it seems [09:43]
undata whether that's an opportunity for something better to come along is questionable imo, and goes back to the "can't think" problem [09:43]
decimation there's a point to this (the idea that the losing party claims 'philosophic victory'). but there's a long tradition of 'old republicans' predicting doom which more-or-less came true [09:43]
decimation undata: abortion is a complex issue that ends up being used as a wedge on both sides [09:44]
undata the "paleo-conservative" thing seems to be on the way out with my grandfather's generation [09:45]
undata he was involved with the "american party" back in the day [09:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.10000785 = 4.0003 BTC [-] {4} [09:47]
decimation perhaps it is dying (or dead) - but to me that means the idea of 'america' as anything more than a pile of spoils to be divided is dead [09:48]
undata certainly [09:48]
undata even the "right" is way too socialist to advocate "american capitalism", if there ever was such a thing [09:49]
decimation agreed. There was a time when this wasn't the case, but those guys are nearly all dead now [09:50]
decimation or they are marginalized [09:51]
undata my grandfather (who I admire) was largely ignored in the 70s [09:52]
undata forget trying to get people excited about free markets today [09:52]
undata hell to most of the people alive, that's the rational position to take [09:53]
undata if they had to compete, they'd lose [09:54]
decimation 'american capitalism' did exist, in the sense that a little over 100 years ago, people used gold coins (or receipts for the same) and private bank notes [09:55]
decimation in retrospect the seeds of of ruin were already sown - but that time existed [09:56]
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undata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT0uaZ5Ymeo [10:03]
assbot SWAT Police Caught Setting Fires In Ferguson - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1rIXwBD ) [10:03]
undata hmmmm [10:03]
undata video isn't terribly convincing [10:05]
decimation apparently the 'oath keepers' showed up to provide security and were told to leave after 'media inquiries' http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_f90b6edd-acf8-52e3-a020-3a78db286194.html [10:06]
assbot Police shut down mysterious 'Oath Keepers' guarding rooftops in downtown Ferguson : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1v6acb6 ) [10:06]
undata interesting, I wonder what that group will evolve into [10:10]
ben_vulpes undata: did you hear about the part where the "protesters" briefly endeavored to get up on the highway and were chivvied similarly politely back onto the surface roads by the 5-0? [10:11]
ben_vulpes lulziest part of the whole action in this area [10:11]
ben_vulpes and yet plain wrappers stopping traffic on burnside for no discernible reason; idling in SWAT gear on grand [10:11]
undata these kids... a "demonstration" as a fucking social-signaling ritual [10:13]
undata now the cops, they sound like they actually demonstrated something [10:13]
decimation well, the aging hippies who run usg like to see a few protest-arrests on a resume [10:14]
mats_cd03 b-but think of the instagram and snapchat pics [10:14]
ben_vulpes i'm sure it was a good time for all involved. joints, flasks, conversation that all agreed on important topics... [10:14]
mircea_popescu there's a point to this (the idea that the losing party claims 'philosophic victory'). but there's a long tradition of 'old republicans' predicting doom which more-or-less came true << same for the left. [10:15]
mircea_popescu predicted doom can always be satisfactorily claimed to have come true, which is why it's been a favourite sport all along [10:15]
decimation yeah, for instance chomsky et.al. [10:16]
mircea_popescu undata: abortion is a complex issue that ends up being used as a wedge on both sides << abortion is only "complex" because it is undefined. the actualy issue is, who owns the woman. if the husband owns the wife "abortion" is no problem. if the wife owns the husband, idem. nonsensical "middle of the road" dualities that can't stand, where the wife is really a husband all by herself, except not really are ne [10:17]
mircea_popescu cessarily "complex" [10:17]
ben_vulpes https://blog.pinboard.in/2012/01/the_five_stages_of_hosting/ [10:17]
mircea_popescu could as well say nonsensical. [10:17]
assbot The Five Stages of Hosting (Pinboard Blog) ... ( http://bit.ly/1v6bt1I ) [10:17]
decimation well, that doesn't settle the issue of whether abortion is moral, but it certainly extinguishes "but it's a woman's right!" argument [10:18]
mircea_popescu it makes the "abortion is moral" debate what it belongs being : a moot question. [10:18]
mircea_popescu societies where husbands own the wife are always in a dire shortage of men [10:19]
mircea_popescu and so abortion is generally impractical. [10:19]
decimation wasn't this pretty much settled law everywhere in europe before 1800? [10:19]
decimation I mean the husband owning the wife [10:20]
mircea_popescu yes. [10:21]
mircea_popescu well, it's settled law to this day pretty much everywhere. [10:21]
mircea_popescu there's a few jurisdictions scattered around counting a few hundred million souls that are trying an experiment on the topic currently [10:21]
mircea_popescu doesn't seem to be going too well. [10:21]
mircea_popescu undata> hell to most of the people alive, that's the rational position to take >> quite. [10:22]
mircea_popescu the only thing here is that the opinions of the idjits don't actually count tho. [10:22]
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mircea_popescu i'm sure it was a good time for all involved. joints, flasks, conversation that all agreed on important topics... << notice what the cocktail party of the 70s has turned into. [10:24]
mircea_popescu a camping trip in the ghetto sprawl. [10:24]
mircea_popescu MUCH CHEAPER nao! [10:25]
ben_vulpes a nice cocktail party's expensive! [10:25]
ben_vulpes stott with me, if you'd be so kind. [10:25]
mircea_popescu because socialism always moves on to the cheaper alternative, this being the true definition of progress. "where your dad had crystal glasses and imported liqueurs, you now get asphalt under the elements and a half-dung joint" [10:25]
decimation where one carefully condemns the horrible behavior of white cops while studiously ignoring the horrible behavior of black 'civilians' [10:25]
ben_vulpes "CAN'T SORRY GHETTO'S ON FIRE GOTTA GO WALK AROUND ABOUT IT" [10:25]
mircea_popescu quite/ [10:25]
mircea_popescu where was that exceptional piece of bad writing, brb [10:26]
ben_vulpes subject of crystal, i was washing one out this evening and it struck me how fragile all of civilization is. take that glass - wash it in water too warm or too hot or switch the temperature too abruptly and the thing will whine and fall apart in your hands. [10:26]
mircea_popescu you ever had proper lead crystal ? [10:26]
mircea_popescu (aka bohemian glass, aka "swarowksy" these days) [10:27]
mircea_popescu that thing's so solid it's a fucking murder weapon. [10:27]
ben_vulpes the windows in the house i grew up [10:27]
ben_vulpes in the house in which i grew up were* [10:27]
punkman I got a set or two, they usually survive small falls [10:27]
mircea_popescu aha found it! [10:27]
mircea_popescu http://www.tuckermax.com/stories/tucker-goes-to-campout-owns-duke-nerds/ << this was a decade or so ago. [10:27]
assbot Tucker Goes to Campout, Owns Duke Nerds « TuckerMax.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1v6cln6 ) [10:27]
ben_vulpes doesn't lead crystal risk dosing the users with lead? [10:27]
punkman no [10:27]
mircea_popescu nah. [10:27]
* ben_vulpes is ignorant of all the finer things in life [10:27]
decimation 'mericans only have time to make money, not enjoy it [10:28]
ben_vulpes hey so punkman you need a vps or what? [10:28]
ben_vulpes ddos resistance iirc? [10:28]
punkman need to write new code, got time to work on it today [10:28]
punkman but if you wanna setup secure box for the IRC bot part, that'd be welcome [10:29]
punkman I'll split up the web part [10:29]
ben_vulpes i ain't setting anything up but i can spin you up an aws box of your own [10:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71700 @ 0.00035831 = 25.6908 BTC [+] {3} [10:30]
decimation ben_vulpes: did you try one of those 'vultr' vpses? [10:32]
punkman nah, I'll put it on my DO account so I don't have to bother anyone [10:32]
decimation well, it seems like the ddoser has taught us that aws is pretty solid [10:32]
ben_vulpes decimation: nope. bezzle hosting gets paid for with bezzlebux. [10:33]
ben_vulpes anyways, i'm off for the night. [10:33]
decimation 'night! [10:33]
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mircea_popescu "[3] Peter Thiel would point out that successful founders still get rich from controlling monopolies, just monopolies they create rather than ones they capture. And while this is largely true, it means a big change in the sort of person who wins." [10:46]
mircea_popescu ahahaha this is the lulziest bit of the entire senile-graham wankfest. [10:47]
mircea_popescu so wait, the "gilded age financiers" DIDNT create the railroad monopolies ? [10:47]
mircea_popescu jesus the sort of brainrot. see kids, i have another reason to crack down on socialism, and an additional argument to use when I do : socialism makes you stupid. [10:47]
mircea_popescu it takes a graham as he was in the 80s and produces the barely cognizant empty shell that will make junior-high level errors in his ill thought out essays. [10:48]
mircea_popescu it takes astute practical thinkers like the buffett of the 70s and turns them into "i believe in america and carbon tax credits!" sort of al gore marionette. [10:48]
mircea_popescu a sickening display. [10:48]
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mircea_popescu "I think you make an excellent point, but all these cases are examples of guys who got a seat on a rocket and were pretty ruthless about who else got to ride." [10:55]
mircea_popescu it's a rocket, don't you know. [10:55]
mircea_popescu and if you make a business, you didn't make that business. and really the political problems of the us are whether black dudes pee correctly and how someone drew a cartoon character's tits. [10:55]
mircea_popescu in no case anything like "an immense horde of absolutely nil idiots expect everyone to believe the world exists to serve them" [10:56]
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cazalla well, the moneybookers tweet fooled at least one news site http://newsbtc.com/2014/11/26/skrill-fuels-speculation-bitcoin-tweet/ [11:18]
assbot Skrill Fuels Speculation With Bitcoin Tweet | NEWSBTC ... ( http://bit.ly/1HOzShr ) [11:18]
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mircea_popescu lawl [11:19]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-november-2014-statement/ << pretty major, includes sneak peaks into flora/fauna and loads of other stuff. [14:36]
assbot MiniGame (S.MG), November 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1vC3g3Z ) [14:36]
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PinkPosixPXE ;;later tell mod6 slimmed down and updated :) see comments about modifications, or viewing with a 4char indent. Tested 5 times or so, worked great. Let me konw if you need anything fixed tomorrow! https://gist.github.com/thelinuxgirl/0b5666d0bc889cc04648 [16:17]
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mircea_popescu https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/4071027 :D [16:34]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1A3gJ6a ) [16:34]
mircea_popescu PinkPosixPXE you ever seen best in show ? [16:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.09119508 = 3.6478 BTC [-] {4} [16:39]
PinkPosixPXE huh, no.. any good? watching trailer now [16:43]
PinkPosixPXE oh the dog competition hehe [16:43]
PinkPosixPXE oh wait.. [16:43]
PinkPosixPXE these are awesome comedians [16:43]
PinkPosixPXE actually, haha, I think I have seen this, wow, I have to watch this again [16:44]
PinkPosixPXE perhaps with my friends come over tonight to have treats, cider, and hang out by the fire/watch something, I will throw this on :) [16:45]
PinkPosixPXE s/with/when [16:45]
PinkPosixPXE Harland Pepper.. naming nuts [16:48]
PinkPosixPXE hahaha [16:48]
PinkPosixPXE good stuff [16:48]
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mod6 ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE check PM [17:07]
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mircea_popescu PinkPosixPXE your avatar sorta made me think of it. [17:08]
mircea_popescu kinda campy dogshow movie. [17:08]
mircea_popescu also... priscilla queen of the desert ? :D [17:09]
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mircea_popescu http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ << can i get a TA opinion kthx. [17:17]
assbot #bitcoin-assets stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1rHwpfX ) [17:17]
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PinkPosixPXE haha mircea_popescu, yea, me and my little dog [17:25]
PinkPosixPXE he's tiny, if i tried to jog him around a track he'd be exhausted 1/4 of the way through [17:25]
mircea_popescu lol [17:26]
PinkPosixPXE The stats look great, for a nice straight forward numerical trending display [17:28]
kakobrekla can i get a TA opinion kthx. < new year is close. [17:32]
mircea_popescu no but with dojis and things [17:33]
kakobrekla ok [17:35]
kakobrekla dojis and things are close. [17:35]
mircea_popescu lol [17:40]
mircea_popescu "picle de jengibre" [17:41]
mircea_popescu holy fucking shit spanish speakers can't write. [17:41]
kakobrekla btw theres a shorhand domain for ba stuff now, http://l.b-a.link , http://s.b-a.link and so on [17:42]
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assbot Search the #bitcoin-assets log [17:42]
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mircea_popescu ha! [17:48]
mircea_popescu how much are .link domains ? [17:48]
kakobrekla sub 10bux [17:49]
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mircea_popescu myeah with all the new tlds i expect per domain registration to drop around $1 [17:49]
kakobrekla nah it wont [17:49]
kakobrekla even at 10-20 they pick up a lot of them to squat on [17:49]
kakobrekla endless chumpatron [17:50]
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mircea_popescu http://domainnamewire.com/2014/04/15/register-new-tld/ << "domainers" waking up to the idea. [17:50]
assbot I finally registered a new TLD. Here is the (long) story. | Domain Name Wire | Domain Name News & Views ... ( http://bit.ly/129sltw ) [17:50]
mircea_popescu nobody is ever going to give a shit about a domain name enough to pay for it. [17:50]
mircea_popescu "Still, with a small $10 registration fee, and the fact that I need fodder for this blog, I decided to venture out and try my luck with .link. Of the 11 I found available, I decided that only six were really worth the gamble." [17:51]
mircea_popescu imagine that, evaluating risks 10 bux at a time/ [17:51]
kakobrekla there wasnt much choice left for "b-a" [17:52]
mircea_popescu sure. [17:52]
PinkPosixPXE twitter handles are becoming the new domain names to 'camp' on and resell [17:52]
kakobrekla b-a.ba taken [17:53]
PinkPosixPXE makes me wonder if I should start registering a few [17:53]
kakobrekla interestingly, 'bitcoin-assets' non .com tlds got squated a week after i registered .com [17:54]
kakobrekla 'bitcoinassets' a bit later. [17:54]
mircea_popescu people were doing that on myspace, coupla years or so before it ended [17:54]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla what if we end up moving off freenode ? [17:55]
PinkPosixPXE could condense it to 3 chars each, bit-ass [17:55]
PinkPosixPXE ;P [17:55]
kakobrekla what about it? irc.ba also taken. [17:57]
kakobrekla bitcoin-otc shorthand domains is b-otc right? so we could go with b-ass which is pronounced 'bias' [17:58]
mircea_popescu how about Барак-Хуйсейнович.ba ? [17:58]
PinkPosixPXE irc.b-a.link would probably be acceptable, subdomain it. unless you don't want to for some reason. [17:58]
mircea_popescu anyway, fuck.link would be a decent dating site domain. [18:00]
mircea_popescu "We now accept TopCoin" what the shit is a topcoin [18:00]
mircea_popescu ;;google We now accept TopCoin [18:00]
PinkPosixPXE yea, could be worth camping even [18:00]
gribble Uniregistry Now Accepting Topcoin | DomainInvesting.com: ; PayPal, TopCoin & New Extensions at Uniregistry! | Domain Name ...: ; TopCoin - FAQ | Uniregistry: [18:00]
kakobrekla yes topcoin. some fake crypto currency pegged (?) to a dollar at some registrars. they give it away for free. [18:01]
kakobrekla to a dollar = to 1 dollar [18:02]
PinkPosixPXE another altcoin it seems.. 'top' as in 'top level domain/tld' is my guess ? hrm [18:02]
* kakobrekla got topcoin when he bought b-a.link lel. [18:02]
mircea_popescu lmao so what exactly is going on in the brain of the link people ? [18:02]
kakobrekla no it doesnt have to do with .link [18:02]
mircea_popescu o wait, it's like a coupon program. [18:02]
mircea_popescu i see. [18:02]
kakobrekla Why Offer Topcoin Instead Of A Rebate Or Coupon Code? [18:03]
kakobrekla As More New GTLDs Launch & The Marketplace Gets More Competitive, Registries Increasingly Will Turn To Promotional Discounts And Registrar Rebate Programs To Sell More Domain Names. The Problem With Discounts Is That They Devalue Your String, And The Problem With Rebates Is They Often Are Not Passed On To Registrants. [18:03]
kakobrekla why caps every letter, i dunno. [18:03]
kakobrekla every first letter [18:03]
PinkPosixPXE Serious Business [18:03]
kakobrekla anywho i got those from uniregistry registrar [18:04]
kakobrekla i like their no bs backend interface [18:04]
kakobrekla so i kinda gave them a pass on this topcoin bs [18:05]
mircea_popescu right. [18:05]
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mircea_popescu !up ahmed_ [18:12]
-assbot- You voiced ahmed_ for 30 minutes. [18:12]
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ahmed_ ty [18:12]
mircea_popescu so some french footballer was attacked with a knife by his ex. [18:12]
mircea_popescu http://critdick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/03/Nabilla-Benattia-nude.jpg << this chick. [18:13]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/129uXrp ) [18:13]
mircea_popescu she carved him a new set of gills, yet guy won't file a complaint. [18:13]
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adlai josh garza's previous scam: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/canaan-vt/THJFBNV4MIFIR075C [18:37]
assbot Great Auk Wireless is A RIP OFF - Topix ... ( http://bit.ly/129xZMf ) [18:37]
adlai and today we learned the origin of his current scam's name! [18:38]
mircea_popescu ha ?! [18:41]
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adlai what about spritz? http://www.spritzinc.com/ anything interesting come of this yet? [19:28]
assbot Spritz ... ( http://bit.ly/129H87l ) [19:28]
* adlai is too far from the UI world to do anything on this front, but it's a cool idea [19:29]
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adlai here we fucking go! http://www.readsy.co/ [19:32]
assbot Readsy ... ( http://bit.ly/129HwCY ) [19:32]
adlai http://www.readsy.co/spritzy/communicating-sequential-processes.pdf [19:36]
adlai last one done's a rotten egg! [19:36]
kakobrekla meh [19:39]
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kakobrekla cant skim with this ? [19:40]
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adlai nope [19:40]
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adlai it's far from ideal, but I can imagine much better ways of integrating the "spritz" window with a wider view of the text (or an outline) [19:41]
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kakobrekla few people produce texts worth more than that [19:41]
* kakobrekla is certainly not one of them [19:41]
kakobrekla hehe [19:42]
adlai putting it on a ridiculously high WPM is quite similar to skimming [19:42]
kakobrekla dont read this. [19:42]
adlai this = CSP? it's a little dense book, been needing an excuse to read it for a while... [19:42]
kakobrekla no, this: http://l.b-a.link/?date=30-11-2014#938713 [19:43]
assbot Logged on 30-11-2014 17:39:08; kakobrekla: dont read this. [19:43]
adlai http://l.b-a.link/?date=30-11-2014#938717 <- don't click this [19:43]
assbot Logged on 30-11-2014 17:41:01; adlai: http://l.b-a.link/?date=30-11-2014#938717 <- don't click this [19:44]
adlai damnit assbot [19:44]
adlai it's also a little nefarious that they want registration for any speed outside their narrow little free zone [19:47]
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kakobrekla wait what they want you to pay? [19:47]
* adlai wouldn't pay for any such technology that couldn't cope with figures in the text [19:48]
kakobrekla isnt that thing trivial? [19:48]
adlai they have free accounts but you need to register [19:48]
adlai "If you’re looking to implement our patented technology into your website, application, mobile app, ..." [19:49]
kakobrekla heh [19:51]
kakobrekla so patent squatters ? [19:51]
adlai "squatters" may not apply when the troll in question also collected the tinder and set the kindling himself, but they do seem quite set on artificially limiting the values for a single parameter in clientside code [19:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96450 @ 0.00035025 = 33.7816 BTC [-] {2} [20:23]
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ben_vulpes kakobrekla mircea_popescu: i had to rebuild my 0.5.3 chain from scratch, but your(pl.) DB_CONFIG tip freed my vanila 0.5.3 build to unwedge progress to 254471 as of this morning (ping: asciilifeform, mod6) [20:57]
kakobrekla :) [20:58]
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* kakobrekla suspects you do not have to go fron scratch - when i got stuck and added the settings it looked pretty bleak for some time, but after some hours and a restart the thing jumped. [21:01]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/l/W0/WiQ9l3g/bitcoindblocks-month.png [21:02]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yxy1cx ) [21:02]
kakobrekla see stuck + jump [21:02]
kakobrekla idk [21:02]
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ben_vulpes mebbe i'm just impatient or on shoddy hardware [21:07]
ben_vulpes but i restarted it a few times and waited a few days to no avail [21:07]
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kakobrekla im doing this on a vps instance with 512 mb ram, cpulimit @ 5% and killing & restarting the thing every 6 or so hours [21:08]
* ben_vulpes makes a face of unknowingness [21:08]
kakobrekla well i have a copy of the chan at 200k [21:09]
kakobrekla so we can redo experiments [21:09]
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kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/43/z7/41YnTAAQ/cpu-day.png [21:10]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yxz6B3 ) [21:10]
kakobrekla capped at 5 or so [21:10]
ben_vulpes i've got one at 251442 :p [21:10]
kakobrekla what is that gap you ask? [21:10]
ben_vulpes well that is interesting [21:11]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/3i/T9/4XeQxxx3/memory-day.png [21:11]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yxzek5 ) [21:11]
ben_vulpes off the cuff, cpu trying to get a lock at 252450 [21:11]
kakobrekla ran out of memory before autorestart [21:11]
kakobrekla weekly http://shrani.si/f/2K/87/3Qfge7El/memory-week.png [21:12]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yxzq2O ) [21:12]
kakobrekla wait one more [21:12]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/3U/Q9/ZX1NXBL/memory-month.png < the spike is the wedge [21:13]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yxzyzq ) [21:13]
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nubbins` hi [21:13]
ben_vulpes morning, nubbins` [21:14]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [21:16]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 375.25, Best ask: 376.25, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 376.25, 24 hour volume: 3606.92762642, 24 hour low: 373.37, 24 hour high: 381.99, 24 hour vwap: 376.136078914 [21:16]
ben_vulpes !t m s.mpoe [21:16]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00035014 / 0.00035569 / 0.00036273 (1240852 shares, 441.36 BTC), 7D: 0.00030027 / 0.00038196 / 0.00046844 (8786401 shares, 3,356.13 BTC), 30D: 0.00030027 / 0.00049581 / 0.00086038 (25973035 shares, 12,877.75 BTC) [21:16]
nubbins` had our art sale yest [21:17]
BingoBoingo http://0pointer.de/public/gnomeasia2014.pdf [21:19]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yxAqE0 ) [21:19]
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kakobrekla that pdf is very close to breaching 'readsy' patent no? [21:22]
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mike_c kakobrekla, any chance I got de-whitelisted from bitbet? I've been failing every hourly update since.. [21:23]
BingoBoingo Maybe? [21:23]
mike_c 14 hours ago? [21:24]
kakobrekla whut? [21:24]
kakobrekla no ban that is placed lasts more than 1h [21:24]
mike_c right, but if you ban me every hour. [21:25]
kakobrekla hm this cant be right lemme see [21:25]
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nubbins` http://patrick-canning-ppkq.squarespace.com/birdsofnewfoundland/birds-of-newfoundland [21:27]
assbot Birds Of Newfoundland — PATRICK THOMAS CANNING ... ( http://bit.ly/1yxBwjg ) [21:27]
nubbins` if anyone's looking for an xmas gift that probably won't get to you by the 25th [21:28]
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kakobrekla i decided ill equip the bitcoin newbs with trezors for new years gifts [21:49]
mike_c ;;seen asciilifeform [21:52]
gribble asciilifeform was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 21 hours, 18 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: ben_vulpes: i never understood the 'happy hacking keyboard' and imitators. being as i live and die by function keys, the more the merrier. why voluntarily have fewer? [21:52]
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adlai so there's also http://readsy.net/ "inspired by Spritz before developers could sign up" but it's a little rough around the edges [22:09]
assbot Readsy ... ( http://bit.ly/1y06TPE ) [22:09]
* adlai wonders whether readsy.co and readsy.net know of eachother [22:09]
adlai we're running out of these webby names [22:10]
nubbins` i know you guys generally aren't into ephemera [22:26]
nubbins` but FYI, i'm negotiating a price with a buyer now for my genesis block newspaper (the times jan 3 2009) [22:26]
nubbins` if anyone wanted to extend an offer, now'd be the time [22:27]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/shiptoship/ [22:30]
assbot Ship to ship ... ( http://bit.ly/1y09t8p ) [22:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75300 @ 0.00035436 = 26.6833 BTC [+] [22:30]
ben_vulpes nubbins`: i'm a bit surprised you're not holding onto it for another decade [22:32]
nubbins` i don't really want to have to care for it [22:32]
nubbins` it's been sitting on a piano bench in the box i received it in for a few months now because there's nowhere for it to go [22:33]
nubbins` anyway, if YOU wanna hold onto it for a decade... [22:33]
ben_vulpes nuh uh [22:34]
ben_vulpes i don't have any truck with atoms any more [22:34]
ben_vulpes http://dpaste.com/3NZH6SH << CI doing it's thing [22:34]
assbot dpaste: 3NZH6SH ... ( http://bit.ly/1y0a75M ) [22:34]
ben_vulpes its* [22:34]
punkman can you trezor without the web2.0? [22:38]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes wd! [22:39]
ben_vulpes let's be clear tho - that's a failing build, and i've not backported any of the tests yet. [22:40]
ben_vulpes i explained to the business partner last night why the full test loop could be as long as two weeks [22:41]
ben_vulpes he facepalmed hard [22:42]
mircea_popescu nice kakographs [22:42]
mircea_popescu we're running out of these webby names << yeah, too hard to keepy addy y to namseys [22:44]
kakobrekla punkman im quoting here > You can use the python tools to do anything with the Trezor, but there's no user interface for (most of) it currently. [22:48]
kakobrekla just ordered 6 of them, will see how this goes. [22:52]
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kakobrekla !s Ledger Wallet [22:56]
assbot 0 results for 'Ledger Wallet' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=Ledger+Wallet [22:56]
kakobrekla !s ledgerwallet [22:56]
assbot 0 results for 'ledgerwallet' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ledgerwallet [22:56]
kakobrekla well here it is https://www.ledgerwallet.com [22:56]
assbot Ledger Wallet - Smartcard based hardware Bitcoin wallet ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5hcFZ ) [22:56]
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kakobrekla The seed is generated at initialization time on the computer. Isn't that unsecure? [23:00]
kakobrekla It is actually the only security weakness of a Ledger Wallet. It is very important to initialize your wallet on a secure computer. [23:00]
kakobrekla aha [23:00]
mircea_popescu uh. [23:01]
mircea_popescu "this is actually the only cockroach in this soup". [23:01]
cazalla adlai: josh garza's previous scam: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/canaan-vt/THJFBNV4MIFIR075C <<< the guy tells lies faster than anyone on this planet can fact check, not worthwhile pursuing, it's easy to punch holes in his gawminer shit, i'm sure some other scammers will soon come to collect his scammed funds [23:03]
assbot Great Auk Wireless is A RIP OFF - Topix ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5hRal ) [23:03]
cazalla having said that, here is a list of domains tied to him http://dpaste.com/1NGR0AZ [23:05]
assbot dpaste: 1NGR0AZ ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5hZ9L ) [23:05]
cazalla given total lack of news this weekend, not much else to do but dig this morning [23:05]
kakobrekla fiat scammers coming to bitcoin ... is getting boring [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00035956 = 3.9192 BTC [+] [23:07]
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kakobrekla not to discourage you from publishing [23:07]
cazalla his wife is not so bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El-cl2d6yys and he was nice enough to shop around for a tummy tuck and titty job for her [23:18]
assbot Cornerstone Life Group 9 Summary - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1y0gdDj ) [23:19]
ben_vulpes tummy tuck? [23:20]
ben_vulpes "girl, go run around the block 5 times and skip the cake this christmas." [23:21]
cazalla ben_vulpes, ya check it http://www.yelp.com.au/user_details?userid=53xyObUd9EVv3EoTzORuvg he deleted the same review off google plus [23:21]
assbot Josh G.'s Reviews | East Longmeadow | Yelp ... ( http://bit.ly/1y0gqX0 ) [23:21]
kakobrekla i looked at that yt and i dont understand what did i just see [23:22]
cazalla kakobrekla, he is/was into the church scam [23:22]
kakobrekla eh? everyone knows church is scam no? [23:23]
ben_vulpes cazalla: what particular church scam? [23:23]
cazalla yes but typical scammer often attends church as to appear pious and incapable of being a scammer because.. jesus [23:24]
cazalla ben_vulpes, as in the above, not that he scammed the church itself [23:24]
kakobrekla cheaper and fake indulgences? [23:24]
ben_vulpes is life group 9 some new kind of jeezo scam? [23:25]
adlai everybody needs to get their thetans back in line sometimes [23:26]
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ben_vulpes "here, hold these electrodes." [23:33]
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ben_vulpes UGH [23:37]
ben_vulpes (compilation in different environments is hell. HELL I SAY. especially this warty cpp.) [23:38]
ben_vulpes oh ha ha [23:42]
ben_vulpes so funny [23:42]
ben_vulpes empty dirs not committed to vcs -> build failure [23:42]
ben_vulpes http://dpaste.com/14SES2R << trivial progress [23:52]
assbot dpaste: 14SES2R: initial successful jenkins build of bitcoin, by bvu ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5mwJp ) [23:52]
mod6 great work ben_vulpes [23:58]
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