Forum logs for 28 Apr 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mcorlett smickles: Oh, pretty much exactly what you predicted is going on over at "Civcraft" (http://www.reddit.com/r/civcraft), so I've remained dormant for now. I'd like to see how they handle it. [00:01]
mcorlett "Meta-gaming" is what they call it. [00:01]
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mircea_popescu smickles the predictifier. [00:02]
smickles :D [00:03]
mircea_popescu i wonder how long till some kids turn a dept store into a derp store [00:04]
smickles i hold a professorship of minecraft economics at mostofmany [00:04]
* Azelphur runs a pretty neat minecraft server o/ [00:04]
mircea_popescu is it tenured ? [00:04]
Azelphur tenured? [00:04]
mircea_popescu his professorship [00:04]
smickles mircea_popescu: heh, I'm working on it, the dean is an asshat [00:05]
mircea_popescu H. A. T. Assdean. [00:05]
mircea_popescu sounds like a pretty kickass name if you pardon the pun [00:05]
mcorlett There is something about prototype firearms... I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something. [00:08]
mcorlett http://photo.blogpressapp.com/big_photos/11/06/17/1737.jpg [00:08]
smickles totally OT: I'm considering writing a bukkit plugin which spaws a zombie at and on player death. I'll call it ZombieOrigin, Progenitor, or T-Virus. Input? [00:09]
smickles mcorlett: is that a prototype or homebrew? [00:10]
mcorlett smickles: That might be pretty enjoyable. Hack something together and playtest! [00:10]
smickles it's interesting to me how potato guns are often illegal, but if you make your own fully automatic 50 cal rifle, it's cool [00:10]
mcorlett http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/06/prototype-barrett-1.html [00:11]
mcorlett That must be the M82. [00:11]
smickles well, what I meant is that it's typically not illegal to manufacture any sort of gun for personal uses if you never intend to sell it [00:13]
mircea_popescu i like the comments on that blog. [00:14]
smickles and, M82, to me, is a sweet looking galaxy, so I had to look that one up [00:14]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Better than yours'? [00:14]
smickles his are on topic tho [00:14]
smickles ;) [00:14]
mircea_popescu mcorlett why are you such a hater! [00:15]
mcorlett I would say penis enlargement and high-powered rifles go hand-in-hand. [00:15]
mircea_popescu hand-in-ghand ?! [00:15]
rawrmage penis in hand? [00:15]
smickles rawrmage, find us some gun pr0n spliced clop [00:16]
rawrmage hmmmmmm [00:16]
rawrmage i can find you ponies and guns [00:16]
rawrmage and ponies and clop [00:16]
rawrmage but not both in the same work i think [00:17]
smickles lol, thanks for the consideration [00:17]
mcorlett smickles: Ha! http://chadperson.com/recess/2010/11/batfe-stealing-my-art-violating-speech-and-wasting-your-money.html [00:18]
mcorlett "Today, officers from the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives in Los Angeles walked into Mark Moore Gallery and confiscated one of my recent pieces; 'Improvised Shotgun: White.'" [00:18]
mcorlett smickles: Also, you were correct: "With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a non-licensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms." - http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/general.html#gca-manufacturing [00:20]
smickles it's the most beautiful manifestation of the second amendment [00:20]
smickles and that chadperson article is a sick violation of art [00:22]
smickles rather, the content and actions of the atf [00:23]
mcorlett Don't they need a warrant to be able to do that? [00:24]
pigeons not in the land of the free [00:25]
mircea_popescu lol [00:28]
mircea_popescu "This is the nature of my purpose." [00:30]
mircea_popescu guy is a fucking idiot. [00:30]
mcorlett mircea_popescu why are you such a hater! [00:30]
mircea_popescu i just don't understand art. [00:30]
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mircea_popescu mk, so the romanian socialists defeated the right wing govt (first one with an actually competent prime minister) [00:31]
mircea_popescu and the curency just took a dive. [00:31]
mircea_popescu wonderful. [00:31]
mircea_popescu these people need to be rounded up and shot. [00:31]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Have you taken your medication today? [00:33]
mircea_popescu what medication'd that be ? [00:33]
mcorlett Anger management pills (do they have those?) [00:34]
mircea_popescu i'm not angry lol. [00:34]
mircea_popescu who told you you have to be angry to shoot people ? [00:34]
mcorlett Um... [00:35]
guruvan you don't [00:35]
guruvan :d [00:35]
smickles 01:31 < mircea_popescu> and the curency just took a dive. << and you have a bunch a bitcoins and are (to use an old phrase) "laughing all the way to the bank" [00:35]
smickles ? [00:35]
mircea_popescu smickles i think overall the 5% drop cost me like 20 bucks or something. [00:36]
mircea_popescu so im not particularly concerned, it's the principle of the thing. [00:36]
mircea_popescu you get the first govt in ~a decade that's not run by a tammany hall style corrupt politician, it lasts two months [00:37]
mircea_popescu cause all the filth immediately forms a coalition. [00:37]
mircea_popescu god forbid it becomes apparent by contrast just how icky thei are. [00:37]
mcorlett Yay government? [00:37]
mircea_popescu but anyway, did i mention the mpoe monthly statement due in a coupla hours will be pretty damn big news ? [00:41]
mcorlett jesus christ the monthly reports for mpoe are getting so complex [00:41]
mircea_popescu aha ok :D [00:41]
guruvan mircea_popescu: you did mention there's big news for mpoe today a couple days ago [00:44]
mircea_popescu kay! [00:44]
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mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/Lldoq [00:50]
mcorlett He was asking for it by using a regular sheet of paper. [00:50]
mircea_popescu its so cute lmao [00:50]
guruvan :D [00:51]
mircea_popescu i can almost see dr hedgehog with a pointy hat being all indignant [00:51]
mcorlett http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Kungsgatan_1967.jpg [00:53]
mcorlett That was the day when Sweden switched from driving on the left to the right. [00:53]
mircea_popescu o, you know romanians have a joke about that ? [00:53]
mcorlett Well, you have a joke about everything, but go on... [00:54]
mircea_popescu supposedly the swedish government decides to hire some experts to draw a plan for the switch [00:54]
mircea_popescu and they pick ze romanians since they're the undisputed experts in transitional phases (inside joke there) [00:55]
mircea_popescu the romanian team of experts spends a week locked up and comes up wit hthe following plan : [00:55]
mircea_popescu it shall be done in phases! [00:55]
mircea_popescu in the first phases, trucks are to start driving on the right side of the road. [00:55]
mcorlett lol [00:56]
mcorlett I can see where this is going. [00:56]
mircea_popescu going ? it's not going anywhere. [00:56]
mcorlett You disappoint me. [00:58]
mcorlett http://i.imgur.com/jcCJ0.jpg [00:59]
mircea_popescu what's that supposed to do ? [01:00]
rg all the ladies they want [01:01]
rg a taste of my sugar lumps [01:01]
rg sweet sugar lumps [01:01]
mcorlett http://i.imgur.com/hbD3D.jpg - Apollo 1 crew practice water egress procedures, June 1966 [01:02]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: Here's one for you: http://i.imgur.com/Rxhrm.jpg [01:04]
mircea_popescu o ya ? [01:04]
mcorlett Do you recognize him? [01:05]
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mcorlett http://i.imgur.com/QRWLJ.jpg [01:15]
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mcorlett http://i.imgur.com/AyXsm.jpg [01:31]
BTC_Bear Don't know why, but that's kind of sexy [01:34]
mcorlett It is indeed! [01:36]
mircea_popescu http://andreitomescu.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/angela-gheorghiu-si-bogdan-mihai-suntory-hall-tokyo/ [01:37]
mircea_popescu how about them. [01:37]
mcorlett http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-11-05/uk/28062849_1_roberto-escobar-hideout-medellin [01:43]
mircea_popescu old story that no ? [01:44]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Shut your mouth! [01:44]
mircea_popescu out of pills ? [01:45]
mcorlett lol [01:45]
rawrmage lol [01:58]
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mircea_popescu the amateur programmer thinks a kb is 1000 bytes whereas the pro thinks 1 km is 1024 meters. [02:18]
kakobrekla :) [02:28]
vragnaroda .c 1 kibimeter in miles. [02:33]
markac Sorry, no result. [02:33]
vragnaroda Fuck you, Google. [02:34]
vragnaroda “According to his brother Roberto Escobar's book, 'The Accountant's Story', before entering the cocaine trade, Escobar ran a business selling and reusing old tombstones from long forgotten graves.” [02:35]
vragnaroda Enterprising motherfucker. [02:35]
vragnaroda :D [02:35]
guruvan heh. reselling tombstones. Lazy motherfucker. Coulda had some of the metal caskets too! [02:37]
vragnaroda http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-11-05/uk/28062849_1_roberto-escobar-hideout-medellin [02:40]
vragnaroda «According to his brother Roberto Escobar's book, 'The Accountant's Story', before entering the cocaine trade, Escobar ran a business selling and reusing old tombstones from long forgotten graves.» [02:40]
vragnaroda Enterprising motherfucker. [02:40]
guruvan heh. reselling tombstones. Lazy motherfucker. Coulda had some of the metal caskets too! [02:40]
mircea_popescu http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-11-05/uk/28062849_1_roberto-escobar-hideout-medellin [02:47]
mircea_popescu «According to his brother Roberto Escobar's book, 'The Accountant's Story', before entering the cocaine trade, Escobar ran a business selling and reusing old tombstones from long forgotten graves.» [02:47]
mircea_popescu Enterprising motherfucker. [02:47]
mircea_popescu heh. reselling tombstones. Lazy motherfucker. Coulda had some of the metal caskets too! [02:47]
vragnaroda Ugh. [02:48]
mircea_popescu doubleposters! [02:48]
guruvan he started it [02:48]
mircea_popescu doubleposters! [02:49]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: No, that's a double poster → http://www.traileraddict.com/content/image-entertainment/the_double.jpg [02:49]
guruvan lol [02:49]
mircea_popescu is the ramming the other pistol up his arse ? [02:49]
vragnaroda lol [02:50]
mircea_popescu people quoting dictionaries is going to become this practical equivalent of "i've lost this debate" [02:51]
vragnaroda lol [02:52]
mircea_popescu so i'm learning that romania is like, the worlds best at karate. [02:52]
mircea_popescu which is ridiculous on the face of it. [02:53]
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BTC_Bear vrag, this guy @adsl-074-167-061-084.sip.jan.bellsouth.net wants a ban lifted. He keeps changing his nick and client name but his hostmask is staying the same. lol [03:36]
rg ;;seen draco49 [03:37]
gribble draco49 was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 4 days, 4 hours, 12 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: they's a legendary music group [03:37]
rg ;;later tell draco49 bitvps needs your immediate attention [03:37]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:37]
mircea_popescu god i hate last fridays [04:16]
mircea_popescu i always end up paying the heavy k's [04:16]
rg hey [04:31]
rg mircea [04:31]
rg question [04:31]
rg so i have a customer, he has managed to get 4 months free service out of me [04:31]
rg but hes gonna pay it now [04:31]
rg how can i fairly charge him [04:31]
rg based on what he wouldve paid [04:31]
rg can the bot tell me what the price was on a certain day? [04:31]
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vragnaroda BTC_Bear: What's his current nick? [04:37]
vragnaroda Oh, nvm, I see it. [04:38]
vragnaroda Asshole PMed me. [04:38]
mcorlett Man, what an ass. [04:38]
vragnaroda BTC_Bear: I did tell him 24 hours but that was before I reviewed my logs for other offenses of his. [04:38]
mircea_popescu ugh i dont get it rg [04:44]
mircea_popescu which bot do you mean ? or what ? [04:45]
mircea_popescu S.MPOE paid a total dividend of 1`143.65921508 BTC to 1`000`000`000 outstanding shares. [04:46]
mircea_popescu lalala [04:46]
rg did i win [05:15]
rawrmage win what [05:15]
rg free bitcoins? [05:16]
rg i did [05:16]
mircea_popescu lol good for you [05:16]
rawrmage who's giving free bitcoins [05:16]
rg mircea [05:16]
rg interest [05:16]
rawrmage oh [05:16]
rawrmage lol [05:16]
rg beleive me [05:16]
rg its not much [05:16]
mircea_popescu heh, i just paid > 1k in dividends [05:16]
rg its like working with the jews [05:16]
rg mircea_popescu: i think i figured out what to do with the ipo [05:17]
rawrmage 1k btc? [05:17]
mircea_popescu for the record, all the companies on glbse together don't pay 1k a month i don't think [05:17]
mircea_popescu yes. [05:17]
rawrmage woah [05:17]
rg damn i shoulda bought some shares [05:17]
rawrmage what is mpoe valued at total now :o [05:17]
rg bitvps is having a rough month [05:17]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultate-aprilie-2012/#comment-82627 << there's the whole story. [05:17]
mircea_popescu well valuation hasn't changed, but i guess ppl might be buying shares nao [05:18]
rg mircea_popescu: say we dont make much [05:18]
rg can i still pay extra money for divs [05:18]
rg to inspire investor confidence [05:18]
rawrmage lol [05:18]
mircea_popescu you can, if you want. you have to pay minimum 1/3, but oyu can pay 100% if you want to. [05:18]
rg shutup rawrmage, i dont want to lose them and we had a bad month [05:18]
mircea_popescu up to you [05:18]
rawrmage rg: i know :) [05:18]
rg why must you PATRONIZE ME [05:18]
rawrmage sorry to hear that though :( [05:19]
rg its ok [05:19]
rg things will be fine [05:19]
mircea_popescu i fucking scratched my ankle [05:20]
mircea_popescu the horror [05:20]
rg we're going to start diversifiying out income sources [05:20]
rawrmage oh noes [05:20]
rg our* [05:20]
rg open up a few new paths to the market [05:20]
rg evne if theyre low volume [05:20]
rawrmage rg: oh what was this i heard like a rumour about usenet? [05:20]
rg rawrmage: im trying.. [05:21]
rg its hard [05:21]
rawrmage oh, and btw when do you move again :o [05:21]
rg not soon [05:23]
rg im going to england htis month [05:23]
rg definitely [05:23]
rg i will be gone for a week or so [05:23]
rawrmage to visit? [05:23]
rg then i will return [05:23]
rawrmage ah [05:23]
rg im just going to meet my new team [05:23]
rg look around london for a place to live [05:23]
rawrmage you'll be off irc for a week then? :o [05:23]
rg talk with a few heads of the company [05:23]
rg noo [05:23]
rg ill be here [05:23]
rawrmage lol ok :D [05:23]
rg ill just be in a different timezone [05:23]
rg +5 hrs EST [05:23]
rg so its 3:23AM there now [05:23]
rawrmage yep [05:23]
rg i am going to be jetlagged like fuck [05:24]
rawrmage lol [05:24]
rawrmage i hear melatonin helps [05:24]
rg i took some of that today [05:24]
rg i prefer narcotic solutions [05:24]
rawrmage hehe [05:24]
rg natural = another word for doesnt work [05:24]
rg you know whats good though [05:24]
rawrmage melatonin works surprisingly well tho [05:24]
rg blueberries [05:24]
rg no i know it does, i took it this morning [05:24]
rawrmage always gives me crazy dreams too [05:25]
rg ive been waking up at like 7am every day [05:25]
rawrmage heh [05:25]
rg no matter what time i go to bed [05:25]
rg so i woke up at 630 today and was like NOOOO ( i went to bed at 1 ) [05:25]
rawrmage why do you take it at morning? [05:25]
rg cause i cant fall back asleep [05:25]
rg once i wake up [05:25]
rg i get really uncomfortable in my bed [05:25]
rg even if its fine the night before [05:25]
rg i dunno, im weird [05:25]
rawrmage lol [05:28]
rawrmage i think you're supposed to take it before bed but whatever works i guess? lol [05:29]
rg well i didnt plan on waking up at 6am [05:29]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/profit-mpoe-sep-apr.png [05:32]
mircea_popescu how's that for a net profit graph :D [05:32]
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rg my ipo stock never does anything anymore [05:35]
rg are these people for serious? [05:35]
rg ;;calc 30000 * .02 [05:35]
gribble 600 [05:35]
rg people are selling the stock for .02 btc [05:35]
rawrmage so you did get new accounts with the fee mircea_popescu! [05:35]
rg they bought it for .002 [05:36]
rawrmage that's pretty cool [05:36]
bitfoo people are /trying/ to sell it for 10 times the value [05:36]
rg mircea_popescu: i have a question [05:36]
mircea_popescu shoot [05:36]
rg so since we started at the middle of the month [05:36]
rg should i pay divs at the 15th of next month [05:36]
rg cause that'd be a full month [05:36]
mircea_popescu nono, publish before the 5th, pay div then [05:36]
rg hrm [05:37]
rg ok [05:37]
mircea_popescu makes no difference when you listed [05:37]
rg im trying to get everyone to pay their invoice [05:37]
rg s [05:37]
mircea_popescu you existed before the ipo didnt you [05:37]
rg well yes [05:37]
mircea_popescu yeah rawrmage like 3 [05:37]
rg we had a REALLY bad month though [05:37]
mircea_popescu so you had a bad month, so what. [05:37]
rg its annoying [05:37]
mircea_popescu you're not gonna have all good months. i had a couple bad months when i actually was below 0 [05:38]
mircea_popescu business. [05:38]
rg i dont think we made anything this month [05:38]
rawrmage yea like ,,(calc 60/20) :P [05:38]
gribble 3 [05:38]
rg we signed up 18 new clients [05:38]
rg but we lost some too [05:38]
rg i lost netxshare, all his vps [05:38]
rg it looks like some people are going to slack on invoices [05:39]
rawrmage :( [05:39]
mircea_popescu and i don't see anyone selling your stock [05:39]
rg you dont? [05:39]
mircea_popescu no ? [05:39]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: wut is a 1 btc merger and aquisition? [05:39]
mircea_popescu o, yes i see what you mean rg [05:39]
mircea_popescu 10x lol. [05:39]
rg yeah whats up with that [05:39]
mircea_popescu rawrmage : mpoe bought mpex. [05:39]
rawrmage oh [05:39]
rawrmage rofl [05:39]
mircea_popescu rg they be scalpin :D [05:39]
rg it makes our stock look good [05:39]
rg hehe [05:39]
rg evne though its garbage right now [05:40]
mircea_popescu rawrmage best deal in the history of bitcoin [05:40]
rg thats why i havent spent any of it [05:40]
mircea_popescu aha [05:40]
rawrmage nice fee revenue [05:40]
rg but i decided im gonna use it to pay a java programmer [05:40]
rg and we're gonna launch BitVPS SecurWallet [05:40]
mircea_popescu java sux [05:40]
rawrmage rg you should hire me :P [05:40]
rg mircea_popescu: then dont use it [05:40]
mircea_popescu im not [05:40]
rg rawrmage: do you know Java? [05:41]
rawrmage not for java though :P [05:41]
rg and how to use Java webstart [05:41]
mircea_popescu lol [05:41]
rg its easy [05:41]
rg its just a site you go to [05:41]
rg anyone can go to it [05:41]
rg no sign up [05:41]
rg you go there, it asks you 3 things [05:41]
rg you fill in those 3 things and it ggives you your wallet [05:41]
rawrmage not really but i could probably learn [05:41]
rg nothing stored on my server, nothing on your workstation [05:41]
rg but its a ufll wallet [05:41]
rawrmage and webstart lolno [05:41]
rg no fucking about with the blockchain [05:41]
rg just a simple wallet in 10 seconds [05:41]
mircea_popescu what if they run off with it tho [05:41]
rawrmage nice [05:41]
rg simple wallet with a 1% fee :> [05:42]
rg what if they do? [05:42]
rg theyd have to download it, decompile it, remove the fee, recompile it [05:42]
rg WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT [05:42]
bitfoo isn't this basically what strongcoin does, using javascript? [05:43]
mircea_popescu o.o [05:43]
rg maybe [05:43]
rg i dont know what that is [05:43]
bitfoo and the blockchain.info wallet [05:43]
rg maybe [05:43]
bitfoo strongcoin.com [05:43]
rg that actually has a key though [05:43]
bitfoo js is more trustable because the user can theoretically audit the code and make sure that the app isn't sending private keys back to the server [05:44]
rg our wallet is a deterministic wallet [05:44]
rg strongcoin semes good [05:44]
bitfoo check out this one too: https://blockchain.info/wallet/ [05:44]
mircea_popescu what's with gigavps and raffles all of a sudden [05:45]
rg again all those actually require the private key to be stored [05:45]
rg somewhere [05:45]
rg ours doesnt [05:45]
bitfoo rg: yeah, they store the encrypted private keys [05:45]
bitfoo i agree, deterministic would be cool [05:46]
rg but i didnt realize the market was this crowded for wallets [05:46]
bitfoo but unless it's open source, people are unlikely to trust it [05:46]
rg it is [05:46]
rg its based on BCCAPI [05:46]
rg and my idea is .. [05:46]
rg a simple java app, you feed it the data, it then loads a bitcoin GUI that minics the official client [05:46]
rg so it'll be familiar, easy, and really secure [05:47]
rg anyone can have a wallet in 5 seconds [05:47]
mircea_popescu doesn't sound bad at all. [05:47]
rg just feed it a new bit of data [05:47]
rg and itll use it to generate a different wallte addy [05:47]
rg yeah [05:47]
rg i think theres something to my idea [05:48]
rg id really like to get around using Java though [05:48]
rg but it'd also help us stand out from the other places [05:48]
rg dont steal my ideas [05:52]
rawrmage lol [05:52]
* bitfoo dusts off his old Java book and starts hacking [05:53]
bitfoo ;) [05:53]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Why do you ask about the raffles gigavps is doing? [05:57]
vragnaroda People love gambling and the stupider it is, the more they're willing to pay. [05:58]
mircea_popescu i was curious. [06:04]
rg i wonder who won [06:06]
mircea_popescu anyways. im off to bed. [06:06]
rawrmage rg: you should hire me to fix forgotten passwords and stuff :> [06:06]
rawrmage sleep well mircea_popescu [06:07]
mircea_popescu take care all. [06:07]
rg rawrmage: ? [06:07]
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mircea_popescu ahh good morning otcppls [12:02]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/70A27D44D7C03503852579DF004EF65F/$file/11-5065-1368692.pdf [12:18]
mircea_popescu cadc ? lessee [12:19]
vragnaroda Judge Brown's concurring opinion is great. [12:19]
vragnaroda The Hettingas’ collision with the MREA—the [12:19]
vragnaroda latest iteration of the venerable AMAA—reveals an ugly [12:19]
vragnaroda truth: America’s cowboy capitalism was long ago disarmed [12:19]
vragnaroda by a democratic process increasingly dominated by powerful [12:19]
vragnaroda groups with economic interests antithetical to competitors and [12:19]
vragnaroda consumers. [12:19]
mircea_popescu constituted a bill of attainder [12:19]
mircea_popescu ok. this is juicy [12:19]
vragnaroda That judge hated that case because the precedents are all sorts of fucked up. [12:20]
mircea_popescu yes. [12:20]
mircea_popescu i know. this is exactly it, bad lawyers think it's great to bring in dubious claims with messy precedent. [12:21]
mircea_popescu it is not. it's very, very bad. [12:21]
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mircea_popescu dude [13:01]
mircea_popescu so some guy bought like 10k puts on high strikes, 8-9.5 [13:01]
mircea_popescu he ended up losing like 7-800 btc on the deal [13:01]
mircea_popescu six hours after expiry, price takes a crap. [13:01]
mircea_popescu i bet someone's pissed off right about now. [13:01]
kakobrekla mornin [13:09]
mircea_popescu heya. [13:09]
kakobrekla btc droppin again [13:10]
kakobrekla meh [13:10]
mircea_popescu i kinda enjoyed it temporarily. [13:10]
vragnaroda lol [13:25]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Well, Tweedle-Dee quoting Tweedle-Dum in -otc a little while ago: [13:25]
vragnaroda 09:21 <+ Joric> | 'Lastly, the third bitcoin chart below shows the completion of the pattern. And, it also shows the expected breakout of bitcoin prices in our forecasted direction: UP' -- S3052 [13:26]
mircea_popescu wheee [13:26]
mircea_popescu the circle is complete, we are summoning nakamoto ? [13:26]
mircea_popescu hold hands, bare tits ? [13:26]
vragnaroda (Timestamp's UTC.) [13:26]
vragnaroda lol [13:26]
vragnaroda ;;ticker [13:26]
gribble Best bid: 4.95001, Best ask: 4.96346, Bid-ask spread: 0.01345, Last trade: 4.96214, 24 hour volume: 76271, 24 hour low: 4.86111, 24 hour high: 5.1176 [13:26]
mircea_popescu had that drop hit 8 hours ago i'd have been a much poorer man. [13:27]
vragnaroda Sweet. [13:28]
mircea_popescu lol ? [13:28]
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vragnaroda Just saying good for you. [13:29]
mircea_popescu a, ty [13:31]
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mircea_popescu woot, apparently the market liked my monthly statement :D [13:31]
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mircea_popescu heya draco49 [13:32]
draco49 hey hey [13:32]
mircea_popescu we were wondering about you and that pair of blue eyed twin 19yo girls [13:33]
vragnaroda Whoa, what? [13:33]
mircea_popescu o you didn't know ? [13:34]
mircea_popescu drac lucked out. [13:34]
draco49 lo [13:35]
draco49 l [13:35]
mircea_popescu he can't even type he's so exhausted [13:36]
mircea_popescu get the man some oxygen suppositories [13:36]
draco49 na i'm doin a bunch of shit [13:37]
draco49 squeezing every drop of performance out of this netbook [13:37]
mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pessary for the curious among you. [13:38]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda yup, they fucked up the arguments. sad. [13:46]
vragnaroda ? [13:48]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: They who and what arguments? [13:49]
mircea_popescu the hettings, atainder argument. [13:49]
mircea_popescu really very naive thing to bring before the supreme court. [13:50]
vragnaroda Oh. [13:50]
vragnaroda That wasn't the Supreme Court. [13:50]
vragnaroda I don't think they really had a case, sadly, unless this makes it to the Supreme Court and they feel like overturning themselves. [13:51]
mircea_popescu o its the 4th circuit appeals, right. [13:52]
mircea_popescu it won't make it. [13:52]
vragnaroda Not likely. [13:52]
vragnaroda Brown's concurring opinion, though, was awesome in that it disagreed with every point she was concurring with. [13:52]
vragnaroda Most judges don't have the balls (or in this case, the ovaries) to do that. [13:53]
mircea_popescu :p [13:54]
vragnaroda I think she realizes that with as much of a fight as it was to confirm her for the Court of Appeals, this is as high as she'll go. :/ [13:54]
mircea_popescu i guess so. you fancy her ? [13:54]
vragnaroda I like her as a judge. [13:55]
mircea_popescu well yes i didn;'t mean as a sex slave. [13:55]
mircea_popescu tho i guess people often mix these [13:55]
vragnaroda Good, because she's hideous: http://www.s9.com/images/portraits/4005_Brown-Janice-Rogers.jpg [13:56]
mircea_popescu the sad fact here is that fucking bullshit new deal remnants and usda. [13:56]
mircea_popescu who the fuck can tell some guy making his own milk he can't mix it with pebbles if he feels like. [13:56]
vragnaroda Well, this whole “fundamental rights and non-fundamental rights” bullshit and the “rational basis test” need to just fucking go. [13:57]
vragnaroda That's not a test. [13:57]
mircea_popescu it's not. it's bias pretending. [13:57]
mircea_popescu no way you can turn it to make someone not selling milk have to sell milk because "other parties" [13:57]
mircea_popescu We grant statutes involving economic policy a “strong [13:58]
mircea_popescu presumption of validity.” [13:58]
mircea_popescu that also needs to go. [13:58]
mircea_popescu it should be a string presumption of invalidity. [13:58]
mircea_popescu "The challenger bears the burden of showing that the statute is not a rational means of advancing a legitimate government purpose." < what is that ? [14:00]
vragnaroda “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.” [14:00]
vragnaroda There's just no basis for such bullshit under Art. 1 § 8, either. [14:00]
vragnaroda Also, lol gold and silver coin. [14:01]
mircea_popescu well ya [14:01]
mircea_popescu it's a big bruhaha now, cause apparently states have the right to make their own gold and silver dollars. [14:01]
vragnaroda Not to make them, but to recognize them. :p [14:02]
mircea_popescu and if they had any sense they'd have argued law imparing obligation of contracts before they argued attainder on this chapter. [14:02]
mircea_popescu really shockingly bad legal team the plaintiff managed to retain. [14:03]
vragnaroda Yeah, except the precedents on that are even more ridiculous. [14:03]
vragnaroda Neither of those are real restrictions anymore. [14:03]
vragnaroda At least, not when they affect “non-fundamental” (i.e., economic) rights. [14:03]
mircea_popescu "Although the classification might indeed be unfair to the [14:03]
mircea_popescu Hettingas, mere disparity of treatment is not sufficient to state an equal protection violation." [14:03]
mircea_popescu and with that, lettuce go home. [14:03]
mircea_popescu as if there can be something more fundamental than economic rights. [14:04]
mircea_popescu i wish to quote that in a nigger trial sometime. [14:04]
mircea_popescu alto these here niggers have been treated unfairly, [14:04]
mircea_popescu mere disparity of treatment is not sufficient to state an equal protection violation. [14:04]
mircea_popescu choek on it. [14:04]
vragnaroda lol [14:05]
mircea_popescu but for srsly. [14:06]
mircea_popescu what sort of a court can sign crap like that i wish to know [14:06]
mircea_popescu at least stalin's were comissars not judges. [14:06]
mircea_popescu fucking purpose of the entire legal system from the very beginning is that no "might be indeed unfair" shall pass. [14:07]
mircea_popescu heck, the brits of 1400 had enough sense to create the courts of equity for this very reason. [14:07]
vragnaroda Sure, but they limited access to the courts. [14:08]
vragnaroda Not just access, but protection of the courts, too. [14:08]
mircea_popescu i'd rather have rthat. [14:09]
mircea_popescu i would seriously have a court system that is exclusive but works [14:09]
mircea_popescu than one that is inclusive but pointless. [14:09]
vragnaroda I would, too, but I don't think it's either/or. [14:09]
mircea_popescu incidentally this point of underlying phylosophy is cause of great alarm in the forums, [14:09]
vragnaroda What? [14:09]
vragnaroda The forums are cancer anyway. [14:09]
mircea_popescu apparently people are shocked that rather than having an open mpex which doesn't work i'd much rather exclude idiots [14:09]
vragnaroda lol [14:10]
mircea_popescu myea. [14:10]
mircea_popescu i don't think it's either or either [14:10]
mircea_popescu but in general it's how it works in practice : inclusive dysfunctional system breeds exclusive functional one, then everyone wants in [14:11]
mircea_popescu then the idiots rathert than deidiodify "change" and "improve" the system that used to work [14:11]
mircea_popescu and then soon enough a new exclusive one is needed. [14:11]
vragnaroda Yeah, I think that's probably true. [14:11]
vragnaroda Most people wouldn't have any clue what they would want from a system until they see someone else getting it. [14:11]
mircea_popescu so in short : it not being either-or fully depends on people prefering to work than to whine. [14:12]
mircea_popescu guess your odds. [14:12]
mcorlett ;;seen markedathome [14:13]
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mircea_popescu lol [14:13]
mircea_popescu that's sad huh [14:13]
kakobrekla why [14:14]
kakobrekla what happend [14:14]
kakobrekla ah [14:14]
mircea_popescu poor mcorlette wants sometyhing tested, guy offers to do it within 4 hours, goes away for 3 days [14:14]
vragnaroda lol [14:14]
kakobrekla i might have some time later if you still need it [14:14]
mircea_popescu in 4 hours ? [14:15]
* kakobrekla signs off for a few days [14:15]
mircea_popescu lol [14:15]
mcorlett Can't you see I'm crying over here?! [14:15]
mircea_popescu cry baby cry, you're a hater and you deserve it [14:15]
mcorlett fuck you [14:15]
vragnaroda NO U [14:16]
mircea_popescu you don't have the required cavitous organ. [14:16]
vragnaroda lol [14:16]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: He has other orifices. [14:16]
mircea_popescu nevertheless. [14:16]
mcorlett I'm sure we could make it work. [14:16]
mircea_popescu i have a sharp planter tool... [14:17]
* vragnaroda fucks mcorlett in the ear. [14:17]
* mcorlett blushes [14:17]
kakobrekla so american. [14:18]
mircea_popescu the ear ? [14:19]
mircea_popescu yea, small wewees over there. [14:19]
vragnaroda Will you make up your minds what the stereotype is already? [14:19]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda no. [14:19]
vragnaroda Is the stereotype all religious fucknuts or is it crude libertines? [14:19]
mircea_popescu crude libertines ?! wtf lol [14:19]
mircea_popescu that's a new one. [14:19]
mircea_popescu it's religious fucknuts with small peckers! [14:20]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Usually, that's not the view of Europeans toward the U.S., but much of the rest of the world sees the U.S. that way. [14:20]
mircea_popescu like... who ? thailand ? [14:20]
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vragnaroda I have no fucking clue what they think in Thailand. [14:20]
mircea_popescu well i imagine they'd think the us ppl are weirdo crude fucks who want to rape 12 yos [14:21]
mcorlett https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78368.msg872563#msg872563 [14:21]
vragnaroda Thailand is so fucked up but the range is pretty extreme there so I don't know what they think of us. [14:21]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [14:21]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Well, they've found their niche and they're serving that market. [14:21]
mircea_popescu dude she'll get tarred and feathered. [14:21]
mircea_popescu its just a matter of time. [14:22]
mircea_popescu i need to start looking for a new girl. [14:22]
kakobrekla pro troll [14:22]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: That was brilliant. ;) [14:22]
mircea_popescu lol [14:22]
mircea_popescu im still chuckling [14:22]
vragnaroda Also, I'd love to tar and feather someone. [14:23]
mircea_popescu so join the forum & bid your time. [14:23]
vragnaroda Preferably IRS workers, though. [14:23]
* mircea_popescu goes "i've never been audited" starts a meme like the "i've never been punched" douche. [14:23]
mcorlett /Especially/ IRS workers. [14:24]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I never heard of that one but I can imagine how it goes. [14:24]
mircea_popescu i went out with an irs girl once. [14:24]
mircea_popescu o, you didn;t see the snl sketch ? [14:24]
vragnaroda Did she come back? [14:24]
mircea_popescu she was a very mousy accountant type [14:25]
mircea_popescu kinda shy. [14:25]
mcorlett How much was the date tax? [14:26]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSjLiQxEZlM [14:26]
mircea_popescu mcorlett i didn't charge her. [14:26]
mircea_popescu the youtube was for you vrag [14:26]
vragnaroda Yeah, I'll watch it in a minute. [14:26]
vragnaroda I'm watching something else right now. [14:26]
mircea_popescu no rush [14:27]
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mircea_popescu how was the winter BTC_Bear ? [14:28]
mircea_popescu "No doubt they would have preferred a simpler one—that the operation and production of [14:35]
mircea_popescu their enterprises had been impermissibly collectivized—but a long line of constitutional adjudication precluded that claim." [14:35]
mircea_popescu myea. [14:35]
vragnaroda Like I said, she seemed to have a lot of contempt for the precedents she had to follow. [14:39]
mircea_popescu im blogging this. [14:40]
vragnaroda :) [14:40]
mircea_popescu you have a blog or something ? [14:40]
vragnaroda No, I keep meaning to start one. [14:40]
vragnaroda I heard about that on the Cato Institute's podcast. [14:41]
mircea_popescu so start one, you get your first link. [14:41]
vragnaroda But, if I actually start one, I'd want to make like three entries a day. [14:44]
mircea_popescu that's what i do [14:44]
vragnaroda How many people read your blog? [14:47]
mircea_popescu hard to tell. anything between 100k and 1mn over any significant length of time [14:48]
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mircea_popescu jesus power failures now ?! where is this country headed! [15:04]
vragnaroda India. [15:05]
mircea_popescu apparently. [15:05]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: http://tiny.catpa.ws/bitches-dont-know-about-my-e-young/ is someone's blog entry about how someone else and I pissed him off the other day. [15:07]
mircea_popescu dude srsly. go make a blog. [15:07]
mircea_popescu it's 15 minutes to get a server and slap a wp on it,. [15:08]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Also, I used India as the example because one of the regulars in ##english is from Hyderabad and he's always talking about how socialism works better in between his 0.5-6-hour power cuts. [15:08]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [15:08]
mircea_popescu typical. [15:08]
mircea_popescu take for instance california, the most socialist of the states [15:08]
mircea_popescu where are the rolling brownouts ? [15:08]
vragnaroda Well, I don' think California has them so much anymore but it could just be that it's not on the news. [15:09]
mircea_popescu from what i hear they do [15:10]
vragnaroda Figures. [15:10]
mircea_popescu hard to ascertain globally. [15:10]
mircea_popescu but from talking to peopel... i mean i never ehar "oh, the power's out again' coming out of ppl in connecticut [15:10]
vragnaroda The last time my power went out from something other than weather or not paying the bill was in 2003. [15:11]
vragnaroda .wik Northeast blackout of 2003 [15:11]
markac "The Northeast blackout of 2003 was a widespread power outage that occurred throughout parts of the Northeastern and Midwestern United States and Ontario, Canada on Thursday, August 14, 2003, just before 4:10 p.m. EDT (UTC−04)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003 [15:11]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Fucking socialist Canadians fucking with our power grid. [15:11]
mircea_popescu blaaame canada [15:12]
vragnaroda http://youtu.be/bOR38552MJA [15:12]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/in-re-hein-hettinga-et-al-v-usofa/ there, if you care. [15:13]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: "I was a paragraph spicuiesc notably:" [15:51]
mircea_popescu lol ? [16:02]
mircea_popescu http://www.flickr.com/photos/34447145@N07/7115189177 [16:02]
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mcorlett ;;seen draco49 [17:31]
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mircea_popescu ;;seen mcorlett [17:32]
gribble mcorlett was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 1 minute and 8 seconds ago: ;;seen draco49 [17:32]
mcorlett ;;seen mircea_popescu [17:32]
gribble mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 8 seconds ago: ;;seen mcorlett [17:32]
mircea_popescu ;;seen gribble [17:32]
gribble I have not seen gribble. [17:32]
mircea_popescu a, thats the root of the problem then. [17:32]
guruvan heh [17:34]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda http://www.law.gmu.edu/pubs/papers/03-47 [17:36]
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rg i emailed draco [18:25]
rg if he ever disappears [18:25]
* kakobrekla opens a can of Coke. [18:25]
rg we can just harass him viaemail [18:25]
kakobrekla how american, again. [18:25]
kakobrekla moar drama! [18:26]
kakobrekla also urlpls [18:26]
mircea_popescu why harass draco! [18:28]
kakobrekla some easy drama in -otc [18:29]
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phedny hey kakobrekla .. I expect to travel around your place May 7, late morning / early afternoon [18:29]
kakobrekla will you be online? [18:30]
kakobrekla and hey :) [18:30]
phedny not sure.. maybe in the morning before we start driving [18:31]
phedny maybe I should obtain a prepaid SIM for the country that can give me Internet access :) [18:32]
kakobrekla 7. is monday [18:32]
phedny that's correct [18:32]
kakobrekla maybe i wll go to ljubljana on monday [18:32]
kakobrekla i oftenly go [18:32]
phedny okay [18:32]
kakobrekla but cant say for sure.. i dont plan things much [18:32]
phedny haha [18:32]
kakobrekla i can give you my phone number [18:33]
kakobrekla you can send me msg or call .. [18:33]
phedny ah, that's also possible [18:33]
kakobrekla but early morning ... its gonna be hard for me [18:33]
kakobrekla :p [18:33]
phedny no, not early morning.. late morning / early afternoon [18:33]
kakobrekla kk [18:33]
phedny probably early afternoon :) [18:34]
phedny 4 hour drive from Munich, where we'll sleep that night [18:34]
kakobrekla to ljubljana? [18:34]
kakobrekla its another 50min to my place from there [18:34]
kakobrekla south [18:35]
phedny okay.. which isn't necessary if you're in Ljubljana that day ;) [18:35]
kakobrekla yep [18:35]
phedny anyway, we'll be heading south that day anyway [18:35]
kakobrekla aha, where are you sleeping next, in croatia? [18:36]
phedny yes [18:36]
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kakobrekla aha [18:36]
kakobrekla you wont have much time then [18:36]
phedny I think around 2 hours or something [18:37]
kakobrekla ill pm you my phone nb [18:38]
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phedny maybe a little longer by the way.. I guess we can leave any time up to 4pm or something [18:42]
phedny let's just see how it goes : [18:42]
phedny :) [18:42]
kakobrekla cool :) [18:44]
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mod6 hi all :) [18:54]
mircea_popescu heya [18:57]
rg lol [18:58]
rg today has been fun so far [18:58]
rg fighting with chaang over company policies [18:58]
kakobrekla pastebit it or smth [18:59]
kakobrekla i want drama [18:59]
kakobrekla there is no drama [18:59]
kakobrekla i am sad [18:59]
guruvan o plenty drama today [18:59]
guruvan see Chaang-Noi's issue w/ mtgox, multiple identities and the police being called? [19:00]
kakobrekla url? [19:00]
guruvan um....hang on - I getcha pastbin [19:00]
rg yeah [19:01]
rg im trying to talk to him about something [19:01]
rg and im getting that [19:01]
rg i dont give a fuck about that [19:01]
rg you dont like mtgox? dont use mtgox [19:01]
guruvan that's what I say [19:01]
guruvan but it's hard to know you don't like 'em until they pull something on your own account [19:02]
mircea_popescu the police ? [19:02]
guruvan ya [19:03]
mircea_popescu internet police or just bitcoin fire department ? [19:03]
guruvan no [19:03]
guruvan real police [19:03]
guruvan http://pastebin.com/iHwctBq3 [19:03]
mircea_popescu o i see. the cyberpolice [19:03]
mircea_popescu someone shoul;d point out to him that all this is only happening because [19:05]
mircea_popescu he wouldn't take a pic with his wife in front of a landmark building [19:05]
mircea_popescu as i told him to do last month. [19:05]
mcorlett lol [19:05]
guruvan :D [19:05]
mircea_popescu ofcourse it won't help him seeing how he doesn't have the werewithal to decode text mentally [19:05]
mircea_popescu but as an exercise in futility [19:05]
kakobrekla !bc,convert eur [19:06]
gribble 1 BTC = 4.88335 U.S. dollars = 3.68304548 Euros [19:06]
kakobrekla pft [19:06]
mircea_popescu cool. [19:07]
mircea_popescu maybe it goes to 2 i buy moar. [19:07]
guruvan hmm [19:07]
guruvan 2 is too low for me plz [19:07]
mircea_popescu 2.3 ? [19:08]
guruvan mid $3s would be ok I suppose.....but I'd rather stay above $4 unless you got some kinda rocket [19:09]
mircea_popescu Highway Patrol says a portable methamphetamine lab exploded in a man’s pants as he tried to run away from a state trooper during a traffic stop. [19:10]
mcorlett kakobrekla: Where does it get the exchange rate from? [19:10]
guruvan talk about a rocket in your pocket! [19:10]
kakobrekla mtg+google [19:10]
kakobrekla iirc [19:10]
Blitzboom >internet police or just bitcoin fire department ? [19:23]
Blitzboom i loled mircea_popescu [19:23]
Blitzboom i made the same joke [19:23]
mircea_popescu :p [19:24]
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mcorlett lol this situation with bulanula is priceless comedy. [19:54]
mircea_popescu what now ?! [19:55]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: I'm not permitted to tell you, since you're not a member of the forums. Sorry. [19:56]
mircea_popescu mk. tell the girl ? [19:56]
mcorlett She's busy flirting with psy. [19:56]
mircea_popescu revolution. [19:57]
guruvan lulz [20:00]
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mcorlett gigavps must be making a healthy buck on his recent raffles. [22:49]
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rg he got about $800 [22:54]
rg from the 50gh mining raffle [22:54]
rg well [22:54]
rg 800 / 2 [22:54]
rg heh as to split with rando [22:54]
bitfoo 400 BTC, not USD [22:55]
rg no.. [22:56]
bitfoo he sold 800 tickets right? [22:56]
bitfoo each at 0.5 BTC? [22:56]
rg was it 800? [22:56]
rg i thought it was around 700 [22:56]
bitfoo yeah, 880 something [22:56]
rg ok so that changes everything [22:56]
bitfoo bulk buyers of tickets had discounts [22:56]
bitfoo but I think they still made a profit overall [22:57]
rg true [22:57]
rg 880 * .50 [22:57]
rg 440.00 [22:57]
bitfoo and paid out 250 [22:57]
rg thats still 210 BTC [22:57]
rg 210 / 2 [22:57]
rg they made out with $500 a piece [22:57]
rg which is pretty damn good [22:57]
rg considering they didnt have ot do anything [22:57]
bitfoo haha, yeah [22:57]
bitfoo so start your own raffle ;) [22:57]
rg i have nothing useful to raffle [23:03]
rg unless you want a VPS [23:03]
rg or maybe you can buy a dedicated server and ill format it on you [23:03]
mircea_popescu rg : the raffle thing is limited. [23:04]
mircea_popescu you make 500 bucks the first try, 300 on the second, 50 on the 3rd and so on. [23:04]
kakobrekla even worse if you do it like cablepair [23:06]
rg nah [23:07]
rg gigavps knows how to do it [23:07]
rg hes a smart man [23:07]
rg i dont eally know the other guy [23:07]
rg In no event will BitVPS.COM be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential, or punitive damages arising out of the use of or inability to use BitVPS.COM’s services or any content thereon. This disclaimer applies, without limitation, to any damages or injury, whether for breach of contract, tort, or otherwise, caused by any failure of performance; error; omission; interruption; deletion; d [23:08]
rg thank you rg for putting that in [23:08]
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mcorlett kakobrekla: Please don't even mention cablepair's raffle. My body starts hurting. [23:21]
mircea_popescu is cablepair that guy running a vps service ? [23:25]
* mircea_popescu has a vague recollection [23:26]
mcorlett Not sure about VPS', but a webhost. [23:30]
mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136265/Dentist-Anna-Mackowiak-pulled-ALL-boyfriend-Marek-Olszewski-s-teeth-dumped-her.html?ICO=most_read_module [23:30]
rg yeah [23:36]
rg he owns a couple good domains too [23:36]
rg he's got bitcoinvps.com [23:36]
rg thats a decent domain [23:37]
jurov hello [23:39]
mircea_popescu hi [23:39]
jurov mircea, what is current interest rate at mpex? [23:39]
jurov for btc holdings [23:40]
mircea_popescu a, did you see the april statement jurov ? [23:40]
jurov yes, but it's not clear to me. it's 40% of 5% ? [23:41]
mircea_popescu yes, 0.000660305% per day atm. [23:42]
mircea_popescu ~27% apy. [23:42]
jurov ok. now i'm trying to deduce what happened to my btc balance since yesterday, but my computations ends up always 0.4 btc off or so [23:44]
mircea_popescu did you have mpoe stock ? [23:44]
jurov yes, there should be dividends [23:44]
mircea_popescu yes. [23:45]
jurov (yesterdaybalance*1.00000660305) + 1143.65921508/1000000000*mine_stocks [23:45]
mircea_popescu that's right. [23:46]
mircea_popescu are you getting .4 btc too little or too much ? [23:46]
mircea_popescu an d btw, you added a zero. [23:46]
mircea_popescu (yesterdaybalance*1.000660305) [23:47]
jurov now it's only 0.01 btc less than real balance [23:47]
mircea_popescu i misstated it, it's 0.0660305% [23:47]
mircea_popescu or * 1.000660305 [23:47]
jurov still off, the interest doesn't make big difference [23:49]
mircea_popescu hm [23:49]
jurov retried in python with Decimals, same result [23:52]
mircea_popescu want to maybe send me numbers in private ? or ? [23:53]
pigeons told you to use tonal [23:56]
rg mircea [23:57]
rg have you seen Azelphur's site lately [23:58]
rg i mightve spelled that wrong [23:58]
mircea_popescu nope ? [23:58]
rg no that was correct [23:58]
Azelphur tab complete saves the day [23:58]
rg ok read your msgs [23:58]
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