Forum logs for 29 Apr 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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copumpkin mircea_popescu: did you already pay out dividends? I didn't see any [00:15]
mircea_popescu yes copumpkin [00:16]
copumpkin (congrats on the high revenue, by the way) [00:16]
mircea_popescu was pretty cool. [00:16]
mircea_popescu now how do you mean you didn't see any ? [00:16]
copumpkin I didn't receive any payments to my MPOE dividend address :/ [00:16]
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mircea_popescu you wouldn't copumpkin, you're on mpex. [00:17]
mircea_popescu its on your balance there i bet. [00:17]
copumpkin oh [00:17]
copumpkin cool, then :) [00:17]
mircea_popescu well go check. [00:17]
mircea_popescu so far i got one complaint about approximately ~.1 overpaid [00:17]
mircea_popescu so go check if you got more than you should have, im curious. [00:17]
copumpkin will do [00:18]
* jurov pokes holes in mpex :) [00:21]
copumpkin hmm, what keyserver is your key on? [00:21]
mircea_popescu all of them, hopefully ? [00:22]
mircea_popescu otherwise it's also in the faq [00:22]
copumpkin it claims it can't find you on keys.gnupg.net [00:22]
mircea_popescu are you firewalled, like aegis ? :D [00:22]
copumpkin nope, but I'll try the raw key [00:22]
copumpkin yeah, you overpaid me by 0.0116347538 [00:25]
copumpkin zomg [00:25]
copumpkin who do I complain to? [00:25]
mircea_popescu humph. [00:26]
copumpkin :) [00:26]
mircea_popescu best i can tell the unmoved shares caused a little overpayment [00:26]
mircea_popescu by now souylg be fixed. [00:26]
copumpkin :) [00:26]
jurov copumpkin, can you try (yesterdaybalance*1.00000660305) + 1143.65921508/(1000000000-89157)*mine_stocks [00:26]
kakobrekla official returns address 1Mu1zidxBRt6BUG4i8a4aQQfYTXivY7wHr [00:26]
mircea_popescu 1÷0.0116347538 = 85.94939069 so that's about it [00:26]
copumpkin I think I'll survive [00:27]
* copumpkin tries to think of how to spend his newfound wealth [00:27]
jurov hehe [00:28]
mircea_popescu hookers and blow. [00:28]
guruvan I'm in [00:28]
jurov well, now hope we'll see all btc movements in STAT output soon [00:30]
jurov or maybe not. whatever makes the brokerage development harder for my competitors >;) [00:31]
mircea_popescu lol jurov, how's that coming alojng ? [00:32]
jurov hard to say, i have very chaotic approach... then some day pieces come together and i'll ship [00:33]
mircea_popescu haha okay [00:33]
mircea_popescu there's agile and then there's chaotic [00:33]
jurov heh, hard to define.. suffice to say traditional dev tools don't suit me much, i seem to prefer literate (in knuth's sense) programming [00:36]
mircea_popescu whatever works, eh ? [00:36]
mcorlett jurov: Do you work on MPEx? [00:36]
jurov mcorlett: no, i want to create brokerage(a.k.a resell mpex access) [00:37]
jurov at least i want to have some less confusing user interface for myself [00:38]
mcorlett Oh, that's easy. [00:39]
jurov what do you use? excel? [00:39]
mcorlett It's when you get to multiple accounts that the complexity increases. [00:39]
mircea_popescu ;;smack mcorlett [00:40]
* gribble smacks mcorlett [00:40]
mcorlett ;;echo mircea_popescu is my slave [00:40]
gribble mircea_popescu is my slave [00:40]
mircea_popescu ;;echo herp derp [00:41]
gribble herp derp [00:41]
jurov mcorlett, can you currently easily say how much did you earn from mpex, how much it was from trades, how much form dividends and from interest? [00:42]
jurov if yes, i'd like very much to learn your acct methods :) [00:43]
jurov or anyone else's, for that matter [00:44]
mcorlett Trade secret... [00:44]
mircea_popescu humph. [00:44]
mircea_popescu maybe the stat needs an overhaul huh. [00:45]
* guruvan lols [00:45]
guruvan it's probably the apostrophes [00:45]
rg im so confused [00:45]
rg i just created a bunch of new windows for new channels [00:45]
rg theres too many [00:45]
rg im not certified for this level of advanced IRCing [00:45]
mircea_popescu there, add moar. [00:46]
guruvan why not use one each - I'd be confused w/ multiple chans in a window [00:46]
rg well thats how it was [00:46]
mcorlett guruvan: "tabs" [00:46]
rg i had 3 or 4 channels in window 2 [00:46]
rg cause they were low traffic [00:46]
rg now all of a sudden theyre popular [00:46]
rg so i gave them new windows [00:46]
rg now theres like 11 windows! [00:46]
guruvan omg....tabs 1996 [00:46]
rg [10:46pm][rg(+iw)] [#bitcoin-o(+cnt)] [Act: 8,2,4] [00:46]
rg EIGHT [00:46]
rg this client has never had an EIGHT [00:47]
rg before [00:47]
rg and NOW [00:47]
rg theres ACTIVITY INI IT [00:47]
mircea_popescu acrtually i think this channel had 90% of its lifetime activity past coupla weeks or something [00:49]
mcorlett I blame it on gmaxwell. [00:50]
mircea_popescu prolly his indirect fault. [00:51]
rg hes why im here [00:51]
guruvan he ran you off -otc? [00:51]
rawrmage i have 262 windows [00:51]
mircea_popescu all with ponyporn [00:52]
rg guruvan: he accused me of using 'terrorist' methods to undermine the rules of -otc [00:52]
mcorlett He'll kick/ban you if what you say don't say doesn't fit his imaginary vision of what the channel should look like. [00:52]
guruvan LOL "terrorist" [00:52]
rg its technically nanotube's vision [00:52]
rg hes enforcing nanotube's rules [00:52]
guruvan u send a bomb? [00:52]
rg no, someone posted a nsfw link [00:52]
rg and appologized [00:52]
rg then i posted a fake URL [00:52]
guruvan oh ffs [00:52]
rg www.bitvps.com/tubgirl.jpg [00:52]
guruvan Oh I remember [00:52]
rg and he banned me for saying NSFW stuff in -otc [00:52]
rg evne though the link wasnt active and never was [00:53]
mcorlett rg: The rules are extremely vague. [00:53]
rg so that means he's seen tubgirl [00:53]
rg but my problem was [00:53]
guruvan and selectively enforced like most rules [00:53]
rg he didnt even look at it [00:53]
rg before he enforced it [00:53]
rg thats like guilty before proven innocent [00:53]
guruvan yeah [00:53]
rg i guess thats why its terrorist method [00:53]
rg cause we could all do it [00:53]
guruvan there should be a links bot in that channel [00:53]
rg post tons of fake links [00:53]
rg all obviously nsfw [00:53]
rg they would have to look at every single one [00:53]
mcorlett http://example.com/tubgirl.jpg [00:54]
rg if we got EVERYONE to do it [00:54]
mcorlett He got banned for that. [00:54]
rg and put a few real ones in there [00:54]
rg oh man [00:54]
rg yeah [00:54]
rg granted [00:54]
rg usually i deserve a ban [00:54]
rg but this time i did not [00:54]
guruvan (a bot to inspect links, I mean) [00:54]
copumpkin mcorlett: don't trivialize it [00:54]
rg copumpkin is mad at me [00:54]
mcorlett copumpkin: Explain yourself! [00:54]
rg he wont take me off ignore though so i cant talk to him [00:55]
rg he's mad at me but he has the facts wrong [00:55]
rg or hes just being a dick [00:55]
copumpkin you're writing of gmaxwell's behavior as irrational, which is kind of disingenuous [00:55]
copumpkin first of all, it wasn't example.com [00:55]
copumpkin it was rg's own domain [00:55]
rg rg's company domain [00:55]
copumpkin second of all, a pic like that isn't something ops particularly want to click on to verify it's disgusting [00:55]
mircea_popescu you cant be seriously defending that idiot. [00:56]
rg he is [00:56]
copumpkin yeah, I can [00:56]
rg but dont hold it against him [00:56]
rg hes mad at me [00:56]
copumpkin :) [00:56]
copumpkin but I have better things to do, too [00:56]
mircea_popescu well, everyone's entitled to his own eccentricities. [00:56]
* mircea_popescu shrugs [00:56]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: yep [00:56]
rg mircea [00:56]
rg tell copumpkin to take me off ignore [00:56]
mcorlett copumpkin: It is/was irrational. [00:56]
copumpkin alright, keep telling yourself that [00:56]
rg he couldve atleast verified it was there [00:57]
rg without looking at it [00:57]
copumpkin enjoy demonizing him [00:57]
mircea_popescu ;;echo tell copumpkin to take me off ignore [00:57]
guruvan I thought it was pretty knee jerk in the moment - it wasn't really justified (though irrational isn't the word I'd use to describe gmaxwell's behaviour) [00:57]
gribble tell copumpkin to take me off ignore [00:57]
mircea_popescu guruvan : after the entire "social evaporation" neonazi crap he was spouting [00:58]
copumpkin rg frustrates me to no end, and I'm stressed out these days, so I don't want to deal with him right now. It'll probably wear off in the near future [00:58]
guruvan I thought that maxwell made the message clear, so I don't know that banning is useful. [00:58]
mircea_popescu he's permanently on my idiot list, i don't see how/what could take him off. [00:58]
guruvan missed "social evaporation" [00:58]
rg ;;echo but you're upset at me for no reason. you just dont know the full story [00:58]
gribble but you're upset at me for no reason. you just dont know the full story [00:58]
* copumpkin sighs [00:59]
guruvan I do recall rg sending the link out, and thinking "man a bot shuold tell us wtf that link is" [00:59]
rg evne if it replied (404) [00:59]
copumpkin this isn't about the Chaang-Noi story [00:59]
rg (200) (jpg) [00:59]
guruvan no [00:59]
rg well i dont think they make any software that tells if an image is pr0nz or not [01:00]
copumpkin anyway, I'm gonna go do something useful :P I've spent too much time bitching at bulanula and wasting time in here now :) [01:00]
mircea_popescu what's the bulanula story btw ? [01:00]
mircea_popescu i think the girl failed to include that in the daily clippings [01:00]
copumpkin oh, loads of fun! you should read the thread [01:00]
mircea_popescu which are fucken voluminous by now dear god. [01:00]
mircea_popescu can't i get highlights ? [01:00]
guruvan there shouldn't be a room full of people trading money back and forth with even the possibility of people spewing evil links [01:00]
copumpkin accidentally received coins, the sender was a dick to him, so he decided to keep the coins [01:00]
copumpkin gets scammer tag, acts like victim [01:01]
mircea_popescu ughm. [01:01]
copumpkin pisses everyone off [01:01]
mircea_popescu how much coins ? [01:01]
copumpkin just 25 [01:01]
guruvan has attacked btc-e (and think -otc) [01:01]
mircea_popescu sounds like perfect drama [01:01]
copumpkin but his reaction doesn't make me want to do any business with it [01:01]
copumpkin him, I guess [01:01]
mircea_popescu sometimes i wonder if this is engineered. [01:01]
guruvan hell no, what a dick [01:01]
rg wait [01:01]
copumpkin yeah, it's amazing how much drama there is in this community :) [01:01]
copumpkin anyway, I'll bbl [01:01]
mircea_popescu later. [01:01]
rg bulanula is the btc-e admin [01:01]
rg ? [01:01]
guruvan copumpkin: there's money involved - of course there is [01:02]
rg or has something to do with it? [01:02]
mcorlett rg: Yeah, he banned himself. [01:02]
guruvan rg: no he had ops on the chat IIRC, but is banned now [01:02]
guruvan he's /pissed/ about it too [01:02]
rg how does one receive coins accidentally? [01:02]
guruvan script kiddie attacks on that chat [01:02]
rg can i sign up for this service? [01:02]
mircea_popescu yea, srsly. coins accidentally ? hiw's that work ? [01:02]
guruvan dude overpaid for ad service [01:02]
rg oh wow [01:02]
rg thats a dick move [01:02]
mircea_popescu o, that. [01:02]
guruvan missed a decimal point [01:02]
mircea_popescu thart's yea [01:03]
mircea_popescu what rg said. [01:03]
guruvan 2.5 instead sent 25 [01:03]
mcorlett 2.5 -> 25 [01:03]
rg wow [01:03]
rg thats such horse shit [01:03]
rg i would be SO pissed [01:03]
mircea_popescu see cause if i suddenly get 25 btc i might return it, but not if the sender is an ahole. [01:03]
rg but [01:03]
guruvan bula is all "bitcoin is irreversible I don't have to return it" [01:03]
rg the bitcoin gui client warns you before you send [01:03]
mcorlett Granted, bulanula did give him the equivalent ad(space/time). [01:03]
rg lol yeah woo [01:04]
guruvan yes - but not without a serious tooth pulling in the first place, and then he was a dick any how [01:04]
mircea_popescu so then therefore we have proof from the horse's mouth that his ads aren't worth what he charges for them? [01:04]
guruvan plus [01:04]
rg Volume: 15.7632 USD / 3.2223 BTC [01:04]
guruvan smart was able to sign tmessages with the sending key to prove [01:04]
rg thats one place ID like to advertise at [01:04]
rg its clearly swimming with activity [01:04]
guruvan and bula's excuse was " how do I know you really sent it" [01:04]
mircea_popescu lol [01:04]
rg is this guy retarded [01:05]
rg does he need the 25 btc that badly/ [01:05]
guruvan mircea_popescu: exactly...ads not worth shit [01:05]
guruvan unredeemed [01:05]
guruvan addy is in the thread [01:05]
mcorlett rg: It's probably a matter of principle, like terrytibbs. [01:05]
* guruvan is sick of this story [01:05]
guruvan it's been going on for like 3 weeks [01:05]
mircea_popescu btc will so shoot up once all these overgrown kids are pushed aside [01:05]
mircea_popescu or wait, is it the other way around ? [01:06]
terry what up bitchess [01:06]
rg if someone sent me 25 btc by accident [01:06]
rg i would send it back [01:06]
rg and i never refund anything [01:06]
rg ever [01:06]
guruvan this is "separate the men from the boys year" in bitcoin land [01:06]
mircea_popescu i do believe so guruvan [01:06]
rg terry: loan me 3 BTC [01:06]
mircea_popescu and the results are oft surprising, like the diablo's fit about how he doesn't get 1mn btc lol [01:07]
rg diablo will get teh 3mil btc [01:07]
rg i have full confidence [01:07]
terry rg: insulin pump á la shakaru? [01:07]
terry or just food as usual [01:07]
rg i need food [01:07]
rg and my bitcoins wont confirm for a while [01:07]
rg cause i use fucking eligius [01:07]
mircea_popescu gtfo, if he gets 30k it'll be a lot. [01:07]
terry rg: you are under the wings of the holy luke [01:08]
terry there is nothing i can do for you [01:08]
rg i like luke [01:08]
guruvan mircea_popescu: lol 1M BTC wtf?! [01:08]
rg i think hes an ok guy [01:08]
mircea_popescu i think he;s ok too [01:08]
rg just dont mention ANYTHING about jesus [01:08]
mircea_popescu guruvan yes, right ? and then acts all infantile and omg the community should do what he says!!1 [01:08]
rg its like that guy you know, hes cool but if you give him money he'll rip you off [01:08]
rg so if you dont involve any money [01:08]
rg hes an ok person [01:08]
guruvan yeah - 30k would be a lot. I like him, but man I'd have issues investing in that kinda hothead [01:08]
mircea_popescu exactly. [01:08]
rg who wants to lend me 3 BTC for 24 hrs? [01:09]
guruvan yup [01:09]
rg ill give you 3.1 back [01:09]
terry he's like that rapist child murderer [01:09]
terry just don't get near children and he's perfectly cool [01:09]
mircea_popescu rg : your addy ? [01:09]
rg shit hangon [01:09]
rg 1FNjQz9Q3oisg4Voe2xQauSeEC3LbdDPLv [01:09]
rg please [01:10]
rg pa the fee [01:10]
mircea_popescu um ? i got old coins ? [01:10]
rg if you say so [01:11]
terry mircea_popescu: still, you gotta seduce the miners [01:11]
mircea_popescu it didn't ask for any fee anyway. [01:11]
rg you should still payu it [01:11]
terry and you aren't exactly the hottest guy in the channel [01:11]
rg it goes to our under class slaves [01:11]
mircea_popescu are you kidding terry ? [01:11]
rg (the miners) [01:11]
rg uh [01:11]
rg yeah i am [01:11]
guruvan teh client should put it there (but i know thats an issue too) [01:11]
terry mircea_popescu: i'm not sure, but i'd pay solid money for that chrome dome of yours [01:12]
guruvan gribble's pretty cute, you gotta admit [01:12]
mircea_popescu what chrome dome is that ? [01:12]
mcorlett Blockchain.info's down. [01:13]
* mcorlett celebrates [01:13]
guruvan lol [01:13]
guruvan loads slow on my browser [01:13]
mircea_popescu dude mcorlett is the worst hater i ever saw. [01:13]
terry error reporting on prod like a pro [01:14]
mircea_popescu i think if a meteorite misses earth he's gonna be all despising [01:14]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: u jelly [01:16]
mcorlett I know you want some of dis. [01:16]
mircea_popescu lol srsly im taking notes [01:18]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Riddle me this, master of pornography: what the fuck does this mean: "I oblige her and bring my boy to beat her pussy like it stole something." [01:21]
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mircea_popescu um... [01:21]
mcorlett Is that supposed to turn you on? [01:21]
mircea_popescu it means someone's making 2$ a thousand words ? [01:21]
mcorlett lol [01:21]
mcorlett "This girl walked into the office today. She was very cute her name was Alana." [01:23]
mcorlett WHO WRITES THIS STUFF [01:24]
mircea_popescu actually... mostly middleaged men. [01:24]
mircea_popescu who pretend to be online entrepreneurs in general. [01:24]
mcorlett Oh, they're entrepreneurs alright. [01:26]
mcorlett They're all nice and shit in the descriptions for clips with black ladies. I wonder why. [01:27]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't know. [01:27]
mcorlett I think you would. [01:33]
guruvan this channel is pure comedy :D [01:33]
mircea_popescu yea [01:34]
mcorlett Mircea and I try to keep the spirits high. [01:34]
mircea_popescu i note you got the order right there [01:35]
mircea_popescu maybe there's hope for you yet. [01:35]
mircea_popescu btw mcorlett, i recently reviewed one on my blgo [01:36]
mircea_popescu leme find link [01:36]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: "Ladies first." [01:36]
mircea_popescu http://www.giffer.com/stories/cgcheer/index.htm there [01:36]
mcorlett GeoCities much? [01:37]
mircea_popescu its from the old days of alt.sex.stories, before your time [01:38]
mcorlett I did not spend a lot of time on Usenet, admittedly. [01:38]
mcorlett Still, I have too much self-respect to read all of that shit. [01:39]
mircea_popescu fuck pride [01:40]
mircea_popescu pride only hurts [01:40]
mircea_popescu cliffnotes : guy meets a cheerleader chick that keeps bringing her friends for him to fuck [01:41]
mircea_popescu they develop a relationship based on this [01:41]
* mcorlett starts reading [01:41]
mcorlett Jesus, it's just dialogue. [01:42]
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pigeons no pictures? :( [01:43]
mircea_popescu lol [01:43]
mcorlett pigeons: Surely Mircea can draw some for you. [01:44]
mircea_popescu i can't draw [01:46]
mircea_popescu i can't dance [01:46]
mircea_popescu only way about me is the way that i waaalk [01:46]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOyF4hR5GoE [01:47]
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vragnaroda 23:02 < mircea_pope> | deci aia pizduta urbana ne comunica ca s-o apucat de anal cum ar veni ? <-- Now, I don't speak Romanian but that looks dirty. :p [02:08]
mircea_popescu it is. [02:09]
mircea_popescu girl calls herself urban princess [02:09]
mircea_popescu pizduta = cunny. [02:09]
mircea_popescu she wrote some advertorial about a colon cleanser thing [02:09]
mircea_popescu she's twennysomething. [02:09]
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rg why do people talk about their firstbits [02:26]
rg why does that matter [02:26]
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pigeons the devs really think firstbits is a bad idea, because it encourages people to re-use addresses [03:06]
copumpkin it's a bad idea for several different reasons :/ [03:09]
mcorlett pigeons: How is that bad? [03:10]
mircea_popescu i don't see why reusing addresses is a bad ideea ? [03:11]
mircea_popescu i've been pretty much using a handful of addresses since i got started. [03:11]
pigeons mcorlett: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74917.msg830230#msg830230 [03:11]
pigeons mircea_popescu: yeah i wondered why mpex uses one address, i htought maybe it was for transparency, so everyone can see how much has been deposited [03:12]
mircea_popescu that's exactly why it is. [03:12]
pigeons i'm gonna make big deposits to fake people out [03:12]
mircea_popescu Furthermore, it enforces the notion that a single static address should be tied to an identity, instead of using a new address for each transaction. << [03:13]
mircea_popescu i don't see the problem with that notion. [03:13]
mircea_popescu what is it ? [03:13]
pigeons i don't like publishing my checkbook [03:14]
mcorlett pigeons: Right, but that does not tell me why you shouldn't reuse addresses. [03:14]
mircea_popescu pigeons : you can do whatever you please [03:15]
mircea_popescu i thought you were telling me i shouldn't do x. [03:15]
mcorlett I also find this hard to believe: "consuming the outputs of the first transaction that used a particular address, may change the firstbits mapping" [03:15]
pigeons if you re-use an address with me, and i know you re-use it cause i see it, i can trace coins you send to it [03:15]
mircea_popescu yes... [03:15]
mircea_popescu why is this unilaterally and universally bad ? [03:15]
mircea_popescu maybe i want you to be able to do that. [03:15]
pigeons in those cases, such as your exchange, just do it [03:16]
pigeons but i don't think its good common practice default [03:16]
mircea_popescu well... why ? [03:16]
mircea_popescu i mean, seems to me a case of, people have decided that bananas should be opened from one end. [03:16]
pigeons because financial speech is a major way people are being oppressed right now [03:16]
mircea_popescu i think if anyone's opressed then by definition they know about it and so take measures. but anyway, maybe its a bikeshed issue. [03:17]
pigeons its like sharing on facebook is fine if you want everybody to know something, but if you share on facebook you are also informing on others linked to you [03:17]
mcorlett pigeons: So sending the change to another address magically makes you anonymous? You need coin-control patches to properly anonymize your transactions. [03:17]
pigeons it doesn't magically make you anonymous, and i admit i don't have a great explanation of the position, certainly not one that will convince you [03:18]
pigeons i prefer to use a new address for each transaction [03:18]
mcorlett It's pretty neat if you're expecting payments from multiple people, yeah. [03:18]
mcorlett I'm going to go pester sipa over in -dev. [03:18]
pigeons ok, i'll listen [03:19]
mircea_popescu i like pigeons, he's a good counterparty to a discussion. [03:19]
vragnaroda https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78424.msg873477#msg873477 [03:21]
vragnaroda Just for Brits. ;) [03:22]
pigeons well in this case i don't have a lot of knowledge about it myself, but i did notice that all of the devs who i agree with on other things i have researched have said they don't like encouraging default reuse of addresses. [03:22]
pigeons i know its kind of a logical mistake to trust someone on one thing and carry that over to something else, but its related [03:22]
pigeons its not like i'm asking them who to vote for [03:22]
pigeons and thank you mircea_popescu [03:23]
mircea_popescu well im kind of clueless about the inner workings of the thing myself, [03:24]
mircea_popescu so these are good opportunities to educate myself. [03:24]
mircea_popescu god i hate it when code gets scheduled for fixing and its not broken. [03:26]
pigeons i like to say the word "deprecate" [03:28]
mircea_popescu hm? [03:29]
pigeons your statement about not borken code fixing made me think of something, nevermind [03:29]
mircea_popescu :p [03:31]
mircea_popescu http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Test-Machine.aspx pretty lulzy [03:35]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Ugh, he actually replied. [03:49]
mircea_popescu lol [03:49]
vragnaroda “but the English language deviates from old and middle German like Frisian. Frisian is the closest foreign language to English. Everywhere in the world where English is spoken was spread by agents of the king or Queen of England. So England's English is the oldest and most correct form of the Germanic language of English” [03:50]
vragnaroda What the fuck is that? [03:50]
mircea_popescu http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/loopy.htm [03:51]
mircea_popescu the girl ran into him during his bizzaro offering of some glbse company. [03:51]
mircea_popescu she was squarely defeated. [03:51]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: For the record, the last British ancestor of mine that I know about was *not* an agent of the king when he emigrated. (He deserted the British Army and stowed away on a ship.) [03:51]
vragnaroda lol [03:52]
rg i thinks [03:53]
rg i thinks bitvps is gonna hire dr rawrmage [03:53]
mircea_popescu pay him in unponies ? [03:54]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: lol [03:54]
vragnaroda “i thinks” [03:54]
rg i have no idea how to pay him [03:54]
vragnaroda wtf [03:54]
rg i mean [03:54]
rg we dont have many support requests [03:54]
rg there hasnt even been 10 tickets this week [03:54]
mircea_popescu give him a share a ticket :D [03:55]
rg i have to drop a deuce [03:55]
rg you guys can help me decide how to run my company after [03:55]
rg like usual [03:55]
vragnaroda copumpkin: What's your comment even mean? ;p [03:56]
mircea_popescu so past 24 hours like 2k btc worth of mpoe shares changed hands. [03:57]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: wow [03:57]
mircea_popescu I AM MOGUL NAO [03:57]
* vragnaroda starts calling mircea_popescu Mowgli. [03:58]
mircea_popescu shuddup Friday you naxi. [03:58]
copumpkin vragnaroda: I was being an asshole, but I think I'll delete it [04:04]
copumpkin I feel like an asshole now [04:04]
copumpkin that forum has corrupted me [04:04]
copumpkin there we go; asshole removed [04:05]
rawrmage anusless? [04:06]
copumpkin vragnaroda: but anyway, the goal was to mock him for pulling out scary-sounding math terms [04:06]
copumpkin but then I asked myself why I was doing it and didn't have a good answer [04:06]
rg okay that was enjoyable [04:10]
mircea_popescu rawrmage you mean ? [04:13]
rg im reading a new book [04:26]
rg it was a little slow but now i like it [04:26]
rg i found a weird strain of malware [04:31]
rg it infects systems [04:31]
rg and then starts scanning port 80 [04:31]
rg and tries to download a file [04:31]
mcorlett rg: So you jumped back to the computer to let us know about this awesomeness? [04:33]
mircea_popescu you should hire mcorlett [04:34]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Who said I was available? [04:37]
mircea_popescu this is sparta. [04:37]
rg well [04:39]
rg i was already on the computer [04:39]
rg i generally dont find much malware in meat space [04:40]
rg i have 400 litecoins [04:41]
rg who wants to buy em! [04:41]
mircea_popescu they sell now !? [04:43]
mcorlett rg: I'll give you 0.078 BTC. [04:44]
rg theyre worth more than that [04:56]
rg ! [04:57]
rg like .24 btc [04:58]
rg well [05:06]
rg how nice [05:06]
rg one of the new Bitcoin ISP's has a MASSIVE sql injection [05:06]
rg in thier site [05:06]
rg what is it about Bitcoin and people running insecure shit? [05:07]
mircea_popescu aw. [05:09]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78424.msg873592#msg873592 [05:13]
vragnaroda lol [05:13]
mircea_popescu i am a sad panda. [05:14]
vragnaroda james@deadchildren.org parting makes people sad. [05:14]
mircea_popescu tis not that [05:14]
vragnaroda That's an awesome hostmask. [05:14]
vragnaroda Oh. [05:14]
mircea_popescu i had an argument with the girls in which i foolishly took the side [05:14]
mircea_popescu that average sex can't be THAT bad. [05:14]
mircea_popescu and... well... http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/248493.mp4 this happened [05:15]
vragnaroda lol [05:16]
mircea_popescu ;/ [05:16]
mircea_popescu i have seen turtles fuck training shoes more competently. [05:17]
copumpkin hey, how'd you find my home sextape? [05:21]
rawrmage lol [05:21]
mircea_popescu lmao [05:21]
mircea_popescu you speak romanian fluently ? [05:21]
mircea_popescu (and ftr, the bitch is all "no" and "eh, i've sucked it enough" and "meh, why" and so forth) [05:22]
copumpkin lol [05:22]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: yeah, it's just another latin language after all [05:22]
copumpkin speaking of fluent [05:23]
mircea_popescu and that guy should have to take sex ed again [05:23]
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rg stupid v6 [05:23]
copumpkin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMcBhztTNgI&feature=player_detailpage#t=142s speaks really good italian [05:24]
copumpkin she emigrated from vietnam in 1990 [05:24]
mircea_popescu wow [05:25]
mircea_popescu she's shocking [05:25]
copumpkin well, she spoke [05:25]
mircea_popescu she's excellent. [05:26]
copumpkin because the video is a news item about her dying [05:26]
copumpkin she became an italian lawyer and got citizenship [05:26]
mircea_popescu o ? [05:26]
copumpkin yeah, scooter accident :/ [05:26]
mircea_popescu you just don't expect her to be THAT good [05:26]
copumpkin yeah, there are a couple of moments when her accent sounds a tiny bit funny [05:26]
mircea_popescu she's actually better than him [05:26]
copumpkin but most of it I wouldn't even be able to tell she isn't italian [05:26]
nanotube copumpkin: you speak italian then? :) [05:27]
copumpkin but I'm not used to people learning a language that late in life, then getting a perfect accent and reaching a postgraduate level at it [05:27]
copumpkin and beyond that, being a good public speaker [05:27]
rg current user is DBA: 'True' [05:27]
rg OMG [05:27]
rg FAIL [05:27]
rg NO [05:27]
rg FAIL [05:27]
copumpkin she was 53 this year, so that means whe was 31 when she moved there [05:28]
copumpkin nanotube: yeah [05:28]
copumpkin I blend in pretty well [05:28]
mircea_popescu o, you live there ? [05:28]
copumpkin but I don't have that "college-educated sound to me" although I speak better than most of my italian friends [05:28]
copumpkin I don't anymore [05:28]
mircea_popescu i actually know a (greek) guy who learned romanian in his 50s [05:28]
mircea_popescu he's pretty good. [05:28]
vragnaroda That's pretty cool. [05:29]
copumpkin she became a local politician and immigrant right activist in italy [05:30]
copumpkin damn shame she died [05:31]
vragnaroda What? Immigrants have rights? But dey tuk r jobs! [05:31]
copumpkin lol [05:31]
mircea_popescu that's their right! [05:31]
mircea_popescu you must make them a citizen [05:31]
vragnaroda lol [05:31]
copumpkin it took my chinese friend about 5 years of annoying bureaucracy to become a citizen :/ [05:31]
copumpkin not a pleasant process [05:31]
copumpkin it took me about a year of that crap to become a US citizen, for comparison [05:32]
vragnaroda Haha, it took me no time at all. [05:32]
mircea_popescu I'm still damn shame-ing over Oriana Fallaci. [05:32]
* mircea_popescu wonders why anyone would want to become a uk or us citizen [05:33]
mircea_popescu i know plenty of people trying to get rid of their us citizenship. [05:33]
rg Hi, [05:34]
rg Was just sending you a message to let you know your ordering system is massively flawed and filled with SQL Injections. Your website is also running as DBA (admin). [05:34]
copumpkin convenient as hell :P [05:34]
copumpkin also meant a way easier time for me to get financial aid at a US university [05:34]
rg this is pretty nice [05:34]
copumpkin which was the main motivator [05:34]
rg i wouldnt want to get this message [05:34]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: In the event of some disaster, it's a special body count on the news. [05:34]
rg Thanks, [05:34]
rg Bitcoin Community Security Ninjas [05:35]
guruvan rg: omfg [05:35]
rg help me think of a better name [05:35]
rg Underground Bitcoin Security Lazer Wizards [05:35]
guruvan "The guy who just refrained from fucking you over" ;) [05:35]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda o i c. [05:35]
mircea_popescu rg : Dead Children Killed by DBA [05:35]
rg this is the same company who denied running pirated WHMCS [05:35]
rg even when i showed them proof [05:35]
guruvan they gonna fix it? [05:36]
mircea_popescu rg : put the message in a special table ? :D [05:36]
rg that would be illegal [05:37]
mircea_popescu hm [05:37]
guruvan only if you get caught :D [05:37]
rg Thanks, [05:37]
rg The Please Stop Making Bitcoin Look Bad By Having Lax Security Group [05:37]
rg TPSMBLBBHLSG [05:37]
vragnaroda rg: Are you saying registering Bobby Tables for school would be illegal, too? [05:37]
mircea_popescu The Bitcoin Security Delaxative Initiative [05:37]
vragnaroda It's not your fault they suck. [05:37]
vragnaroda .g xkcd bobby tables [05:38]
markac vragnaroda: http://xkcd.com/327/ [05:38]
rg yeah but it makes us all look bad [05:38]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda no he might have a point there, what with the new "accesing a protected computer" bs [05:38]
nanotube copumpkin: heh cool. i know a few words in italian, and can understand written italian pretty well, it having a lot of overlaps with spanish and french, but that's about it. :) guess now i know who to ask if i need some italian. :) [05:38]
copumpkin hah [05:38]
copumpkin or mircea_popescu :P [05:38]
copumpkin I learned spanish pretty quickly by knowing italian and french already [05:38]
mircea_popescu i only have tall italians, so if you just need some italian best go with a classified ? :D [05:39]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Yeah, I know it is if that's the only purpose. I'm saying if you were to legitimately sign up and want a username with ");DROP TABLE accounts; or something, that would actually be a really cool username. [05:39]
mircea_popescu lmao [05:39]
mircea_popescu recursive username [05:39]
copumpkin you guys talking about the guy whose last name was Null? [05:39]
mircea_popescu your username could be INSERT into ACCOUNTS (username blabla) VALUES ("INSERT into ACCOUNTS [05:40]
copumpkin http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4456438/how-can-i-pass-the-string-null-through-wsdl-soap-from-as3-to-coldfusion-web [05:40]
guruvan lol - that's awesome copumpkin [05:41]
mircea_popescu which made me realise [05:42]
nanotube copumpkin: haha nice. [05:42]
mircea_popescu we're prolly only years away from the first bloke named bitcoin [05:42]
mircea_popescu Bitcoin Smith [05:42]
nanotube well, gigavps just recently had a child. maybe he could give her a middle name of bitcoin, since i presume the first name is already spoken for. :) [05:42]
mircea_popescu she could be Moon Unit Rig Gigavps ? [05:43]
mircea_popescu Dweezil Hash Goat. [05:43]
nanotube hehe well, he's actually been referring to her as 'megavps' :) but i don't think that's the official name. hehe [05:43]
guruvan but mircea_popescu how long till we have a kid named 1bpRWFWYeMZNSgN6Gkz4Xd9pWPwqtuxwDR [05:44]
guruvan Hash Goat [05:44]
guruvan lol [05:45]
mircea_popescu lmao omg, have your kid named his bitcoin address [05:45]
mircea_popescu that'd be pretty cool. [05:45]
mircea_popescu John 1bpRWFWYeMZNSgN6Gkz4Xd9pWPwqtuxwDR Atkinson [05:45]
guruvan loool [05:45]
mircea_popescu be like... all you need to pay me is my name. [05:45]
mircea_popescu (isn't it fascinating how ontopic this chan has become since nanotube joined ?) [05:46]
vragnaroda Hmm… I like the idea of naming a kid with a bitcoin address, but it'd just be one of many middle names. [05:47]
guruvan John Jacob Jingle Heimer 1bpRWFWYeMZNSgN6Gkz4Xd9pWPwqtuxwDR Schmidt [05:47]
nanotube mircea_popescu: i've been idling here since the chan was founded. :P [05:48]
copumpkin spend months generating an alpha-only bitcoin address, then give the kid a fuckton of middle names such that their first letters spell out the address [05:48]
vragnaroda I've always thought it would be cool to have identical twins named Hans Franz and Franz Hans. [05:48]
nanotube copumpkin: or give him some names starting with numbers? :) [05:48]
vragnaroda copumpkin: That's an even better idea. [05:48]
guruvan mitght have to use a Litecoin or Namecoince address to do it copumpkin, but that's the ticket :) [05:49]
nanotube i bet doing an all-alpha addr should be 'relatively fast' since the constraint is not that bad. [05:49]
copumpkin true [05:49]
copumpkin or you could just make the leading 1 implicit [05:49]
mircea_popescu t Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingel-dangel-dongel-dungel-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-grumbelmeyer-spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbeleisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein-nürnburger-bratwurstl-gerspurten-mitz-weimache-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-schönendanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher von Hautkopf of Ulm. [05:49]
nanotube or just give the kid the first name of '1' [05:50]
BTC_Bear 1Dead2pac [05:50]
guruvan LOL! [05:50]
copumpkin Primus/Primo [05:50]
copumpkin that could be the kid's first name [05:50]
mircea_popescu primus lol [05:50]
copumpkin it was common back in latin days [05:50]
copumpkin and there's Primo Levi [05:51]
copumpkin relatively recent [05:51]
copumpkin I think those ordinal names have gone out of fashion though [05:51]
mircea_popescu Sir Firstley Quncy Tabernacle Lillybottom Frostythe Untlemeyer of Twinklefairy. [05:51]
vragnaroda copumpkin: Not in Japan, though! [05:51]
vragnaroda They're still common there. [05:51]
copumpkin Taro! [05:52]
vragnaroda s/still// as I think the custom rose independently. [05:52]
mircea_popescu actually... [05:53]
mircea_popescu someone should write code that uses namebits to make a vanity address [05:53]
mircea_popescu it could be 1SarJaMaryLucVal so you have Sarah Jane Mary Lucy Valery. [05:54]
mircea_popescu knock her mother up, start the software att he same time... nine months later you have a girl and a name [05:54]
vragnaroda Huh, apparently units that are 2ⁿ are too complicated for computer science students; only 10ⁿ makes sense. [05:56]
vragnaroda Whodathunkit? [05:56]
copumpkin ? [05:57]
vragnaroda copumpkin: 128 oz to the gallon “is impossible to deal with” [05:58]
copumpkin oh [05:58]
mircea_popescu stop being such an imperialistic chauvinist vragnaroda [05:58]
mircea_popescu the metric system is metrissiah. [05:58]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I'm not. I would *never* use Imperial units. [05:58]
vragnaroda 160 ounces to the gallon is insane! [05:58]
vragnaroda ;) [05:59]
mircea_popescu lolk [05:59]
mircea_popescu someone needs to come up with a system based on primes [05:59]
mircea_popescu 17 grains to the ounce, 19 ounces to the quart, 23 quarts to the gallon, [05:59]
mircea_popescu 29 gallons to the ton etc [05:59]
mircea_popescu cryptosystem. [06:00]
vragnaroda Oh, there was some talk about it in #conlang forever ago. [06:00]
mircea_popescu musta been before my tme. [06:00]
rg Hi, [06:03]
rg Please fix your website. It is loaded with SQL injections. Your DB account is also running as DBA. [06:03]
rg Please understand this is not an attack on you or your company. Bitcoin has been plagued by lax security/coins getting stolen/info being stolen. This is simply a means to clean up the community image by keeping everyone secure. [06:03]
rg there [06:03]
rg thats slightly less asshole [06:03]
mircea_popescu http://xkcd.com/916/ [06:03]
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guruvan rg: as a general rule, I would send that, let them know when I would make the info public, give them that time to contact me so they'd do it themselves (after repair) and release the info if nothing else happens [06:05]
rg nah [06:05]
rg all i did was say [06:05]
rg please fix it [06:05]
rg this is what was vuln [06:05]
rg this is the data i collected [06:06]
rg if you need assitance please contact me, it does not cost money [06:06]
rg etc [06:06]
rg Viagrow is the only pill that can guarantee fast enlargemnt... gain 10 inches in few weeks! [06:06]
rg Best and cheaperst GROW PRODUCT in a super offer for you today! [06:06]
rg It's so very easy - like 123! [06:06]
rg sweet, i always wanted a 17 inch penis [06:07]
mircea_popescu 17 inch ? [06:07]
mircea_popescu i don't think i know any girl that could take that. [06:07]
rg i can gain 10 inches in a few weeks [06:07]
guruvan dude, I've been getting those for years. I have to carry mine wrapped around my arm [06:07]
mircea_popescu wtf will you do ? [06:07]
rg mircea_popescu: just the tip [06:07]
rg thats the only part that matters anyway [06:07]
mircea_popescu where's that oglaf lol [06:08]
mircea_popescu http://oglaf.com/goodbehavior/1/ [06:09]
rg BTC Paid: ฿740.94 Unpaid: ฿2.55 Overdue: ฿13.59 [06:09]
rg bah [06:09]
rg pay your bills! [06:09]
mircea_popescu 2% uncollected aint that bad. [06:10]
guruvan that's not too bad a slow pay ratio [06:10]
rg its just annoying [06:12]
* vragnaroda farts in the general direction of Yurp. [06:13]
rg vragnaroda [06:15]
rg whats a nice way to say: "warning: your vps is about to get deleted if you dont pay me [06:15]
rg " [06:15]
vragnaroda lol, ask me if you want about grammar, but not about tact. [06:15]
vragnaroda I can't help you there. ;) [06:15]
rg you can [06:15]
rg you just dont want to [06:15]
rg This email is to inform you that your invoice no. {$invoice_num} which was generated on {$invoice_date_created} is due on {$invoice_date_due}. [06:17]
rg Failure to reply to this correspondance or pay your invoice will result in your VPS being suspended and eventually deleted. [06:17]
rg too many 'yours' [06:18]
guruvan and give a date for suspension/deletion [06:18]
rg it does [06:18]
guruvan lol [06:18]
* guruvan reads [06:18]
rg im no longer going to be all buddy buddy with everyone [06:18]
rg your shutoff day is +1 after your invoice date [06:18]
guruvan it's bidness - you can't [06:18]
rg well i tried [06:18]
rg and people keep taking the piss [06:18]
rg so funk em [06:19]
guruvan pay up, or GTFO [06:19]
rg correspondence* [06:20]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda : http://oglaf.com/morag/1/ [06:20]
mircea_popescu day + 1 is kinda insane. [06:20]
mircea_popescu day +5 [06:20]
rg why [06:21]
rg the invoices are sent out two days before [06:21]
mircea_popescu suppose someone gets laid. [06:21]
rg so you have 2 days + billing day + another [06:21]
mircea_popescu i mean its rare but it could happen. [06:21]
rg 4 days for not paying your bill [06:21]
rg and i only shut it off/delete if you dont respond to my emails [06:21]
rg no contact = fast track to getting shutoff/deleted [06:21]
mircea_popescu wghat's the cost to you for the extra days ? [06:22]
guruvan I really don't expect most /bills/ to be paid for 10days or so [06:22]
rg mircea_popescu: umm [06:22]
rg depends on the plan [06:22]
vragnaroda Where's that Objectivist troll from -otc. Get her in here and ask how long you should give. ;) [06:22]
mircea_popescu rg : i think you have a very good collection % and i wuldn't change the policy. [06:22]
rg pff [06:22]
vragnaroda (And then smack her around a bit and do something sensible instead.) [06:23]
mircea_popescu keep on beign buddy-buddy [06:23]
rg you dont know anything [06:23]
mircea_popescu it works. [06:23]
rg when people dont reply/pay [06:23]
rg that is resources/space that is taken up on our clusters [06:23]
vragnaroda Yeah, but based on those figures, they are. [06:23]
rg that costs money [06:23]
mircea_popescu you're too emotionally involved. [06:23]
rg no... its money [06:23]
mircea_popescu learn to listen to the people who don't give a shit. [06:23]
rg in America [06:23]
rg if you get something [06:23]
rg you pay for it [06:23]
rg i dont know how they do it in romania [06:23]
rg you guys are communists [06:23]
vragnaroda lol [06:23]
mircea_popescu i get everything for free [06:24]
rg im not giving everyone the same VPS for the same amount of money [06:24]
rg like youd have me do [06:24]
mircea_popescu but that's because im in the mob not because im in romania [06:24]
vragnaroda rofl [06:24]
mircea_popescu :D [06:24]
rg here we go [06:25]
rg first invoice overdue message: [06:25]
rg Warning: Server facing shutdown within 24 hours [06:25]
rg HAPPY? [06:25]
mircea_popescu "Your mother is a whore and she's two days late. Signed - RG the Evil." [06:25]
rg i think you mean [06:25]
rg Cordially yours, [06:25]
rg James @ BitVPS.COM [06:25]
mircea_popescu k [06:26]
rg thats my bitvps signature [06:26]
mircea_popescu "Your mother is a whore and she's two days late. Cordially your father, James @ BitVPS.COM." [06:26]
mircea_popescu i wonder why not more companies use extremely inflamatory language, narrow terms and bizzare implicit cvasi-contractual obligations. [06:27]
mircea_popescu it seems to be all the rage of late. [06:27]
rg non-retrievable [06:27]
rg vragnaroda [06:27]
rg how do i do that word [06:27]
rg properly [06:27]
rg nonretrievable? [06:27]
vragnaroda unretrievable or unsalvageable [06:28]
guruvan "along with all backups" might be most clear in this case [06:29]
rg Failure to respond to this email will result in secure deletion of your image. Your data will then become unsalvageable. [06:29]
rg damn it i did it again [06:29]
rg i like to say correspondence [06:29]
rg its a better word [06:29]
vragnaroda Failure to respond to this email by will result in secure irreversible deletion of your image. [06:31]
vragnaroda Get rid of that second sentence. [06:31]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/mplST.jpg [06:32]
rg secure irreversible deletion of your image. [06:33]
rg thats not right [06:33]
rg Failure to respond to this email within 24 hours will result in secure irreversible deletion of your image. [06:33]
rg no i guess that loosk ok [06:33]
rg secure, irreversible, [06:33]
vragnaroda Well, it's redundant but some people need redundancy. [06:33]
guruvan and need things repeated too [06:34]
rg haha [06:34]
rg guruvan is funny [06:34]
guruvan lol :D [06:34]
vragnaroda and need to be told again [06:34]
mircea_popescu lol [06:34]
guruvan you should see a big "fuck you we're gonna take your money" letter from the IRS [06:34]
rg what i really need to figure out is how to make WHMCS stop sending out all these emaisl [06:35]
rg for a new client sign up, it sends 5 emails [06:35]
rg GIVE [06:35]
rg FIVE [06:35]
guruvan it repeats the same information 4 times on the page, and that's the only information on the page. :D [06:35]
rg i wonder [06:35]
mircea_popescu aite, it's bed for me. [06:35]
rg is there a company who will give you a phone number [06:35]
rg for SMS only [06:35]
pigeons google [06:35]
rg any less evil suggestions? [06:36]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-otc-eu [14:02]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-otc-eu set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Apr 20 21:40:27 2012 [14:02]
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kakobrekla morning mircea_popescu [14:37]
mircea_popescu heya kakobrekla [14:37]
kakobrekla are you buying 20k bonds from AG? [14:37]
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gigavps good morning [14:45]
mircea_popescu heya [14:46]
mircea_popescu ok, this is inasanity [14:46]
mircea_popescu i just got hit with a huge wall of facebook spam [14:46]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu, are you refusing to answer my question? :) [14:47]
mircea_popescu this is the best i have ever seen, it reuses comments from such a wide swath of the internet that it's either made by google or by someonewith comparable access [14:47]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla o you were asking me ? what's ag ? [14:47]
kakobrekla bitbond [14:47]
kakobrekla oh i guess its not you [14:48]
kakobrekla then [14:48]
kakobrekla :) [14:48]
mircea_popescu um [14:48]
mircea_popescu what ? lol [14:48]
mircea_popescu anyway. when's that facebook ipo ? [14:48]
kakobrekla theres some guy buying 20k shares of bitbond, speculation on #bitcoin-assets was it was you [14:48]
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kakobrekla so i thought i will just ask. [14:48]
mircea_popescu ah. [14:51]
mircea_popescu no, i'm being spammed by facebook -.- [14:51]
mircea_popescu and i don't see such an order on glbse ? or ? [14:52]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75126.msg873926#msg873926 [14:53]
mircea_popescu o, it's not me. [14:54]
kakobrekla :) [14:54]
mircea_popescu maybe its the same guy who bought 5k gigavps [14:54]
mircea_popescu seeing how it's about the same sum, bought 5k for 5k btc sold iirc for 1.51 ? so that'd be 7.5k or so [14:55]
mircea_popescu which would mean what, 20k bonds at .3x each? [14:55]
gigavps mircea_popescu: the person who bought 5k of my bonds is very smart :) [14:55]
mircea_popescu apparently. [14:56]
mircea_popescu except they;'re running out and there's smarter people there to pick the pieces. [14:56]
gigavps what's running out? [14:57]
mircea_popescu im sure a smart person liek them doesn't need me to tell. that's the advantage of smart people in the end : they needn't talk as much as the rest. [15:00]
gigavps mircea_popescu: speaking of smart people [15:01]
gigavps seems MPOE-PR has decided to focus on marketing instead of ruffling the forum feathers [15:02]
gigavps good for her [15:02]
mircea_popescu hehe i think the girl is more entusiatic than smart. [15:03]
gigavps LOL [15:03]
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mircea_popescu From the sidelining of the banks through the registration process to the dithering of Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook's co-founder and chief executive, over whether or not he will turn up for the investor roadshow, the message has been clear: whatever the normal rules governing Wall Street initial public offerings, Facebook is the one calling the shots. [15:43]
mircea_popescu obviously they don't give a shit seeing how there's oodles of money floating around from quantitative easing. [15:43]
mircea_popescu zuckerberg's idiocy is bernanke's creation. [15:43]
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rg ;;ticker [18:40]
gribble Best bid: 4.91202, Best ask: 4.94338, Bid-ask spread: 0.03136, Last trade: 4.912, 24 hour volume: 25893, 24 hour low: 4.84634, 24 hour high: 5.0184 [18:40]
rg how low can we goooooo [18:40]
guruvan a little below the median zhoutonging price [18:42]
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mircea_popescu maybe 2 [18:59]
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mircea_popescu http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/7086333527_cd9d855519_z.jpg [19:12]
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rg ;;asks 5 [19:39]
gribble There are currently 7347.8304 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 36652.944167 USD in total. [19:39]
mircea_popescu not so bad. [19:42]
rg yeah [19:45]
rg thats one trade [19:45]
rg ;;asks 5.20 [19:45]
gribble There are currently 42169.919 bitcoins offered at or under 5.2 USD, worth 214273.613658 USD in total. [19:45]
rg ;;asks 5.10 [19:45]
gribble There are currently 29214.382 bitcoins offered at or under 5.1 USD, worth 147381.266176 USD in total. [19:45]
rg rough [19:45]
rg ;;asks 5.02 [19:46]
gribble There are currently 8573.5656 bitcoins offered at or under 5.02 USD, worth 42805.538964 USD in total. [19:46]
rg ok [19:55]
rg dealer is showing an ace [19:55]
rg i have double 8's [19:56]
* guruvan would probably split some 8s [20:04]
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rg i did split [20:15]
rg i got boned [20:15]
mircea_popescu http://www.mrc.org/biasalerts/nbcs-curry-rants-its-fundamentally-unfair-some-have-more-money-others lolz. [20:15]
mircea_popescu It just feels, there's a sense of, I'm kind of better than you are. And I don't – I don't think that is right. [20:17]
mircea_popescu lmao what a failed human being. [20:17]
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AshleyWaffle rg: Do you own bitvps? [21:59]
mircea_popescu yes he does. [22:03]
Azelphur ...for now [22:04]
Azelphur *sneaky eyes* [22:04]
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mcorlett Azelphur: You wouldn't! [22:04]
AshleyWaffle rg: I think I sent 1.01BTC to the wrong address... or did I? [22:04]
Azelphur mcorlett: :P [22:04]
mcorlett Hey, this Satoshi Dice thing is pretty neat. [22:31]
guruvan link? [22:33]
mcorlett http://satoshidice.com/ [22:36]
guruvan totally like the use of vanity addys [22:37]
mircea_popescu im trying it :D [22:39]
mircea_popescu aww i lost. [22:39]
guruvan Imma hafta [22:40]
mcorlett Here's mine: http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=2d30bb78cb5c37f3d9175565473818d0e7ab009f223f13da4b33716fc6fcba98 [22:40]
mcorlett rg will be all over this. [22:40]
pigeons i also like http://bitcoinrps.com/ [22:40]
* kakobrekla won [22:41]
kakobrekla http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=5029a315dfe90815e3139b66deb2bfec6d9ca522ea4b6cb7b65e0a5661c22535 [22:41]
guruvan :D [22:41]
mcorlett pigeons: You game? [22:42]
mcorlett I'll play. [22:42]
pigeons i'm gonna act like a chicken cause im on my way out for now, later though [22:44]
mircea_popescu im the one doing the 64s on tyhe list [22:44]
mircea_popescu lost all [22:44]
mircea_popescu Y NO 100 BTC!!! [22:44]
guruvan it's fer me [22:44]
mcorlett pigeons: That's fine; I'm used to people fearing my skills. [22:45]
mcorlett ;;seen markedathome [22:48]
gribble markedathome was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 4 days, 7 hours, and 46 seconds ago: mcorlett: i'll help test if it is needed within the next 4 hours [22:48]
mircea_popescu mcorlett has skills ? [23:01]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: You are such a hater. [23:11]
mircea_popescu did anyone say anything ? [23:12]
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mcorlett I wouldn't know. [23:18]
mircea_popescu not one of your skills ? :D [23:18]
mcorlett Oh shut up. [23:19]
mircea_popescu i will do anything for love [23:19]
mircea_popescu but i won't do that! [23:19]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GNhdQRbXhc [23:19]
mcorlett You shouldn't speak in song lyrics, you know. [23:23]
mircea_popescu it's a skill i have. [23:24]
mcorlett I think it makes up for your inadequacies. [23:25]
mcorlett i can't draw [23:25]
mcorlett i can't dance [23:25]
mircea_popescu that is taken all out of cuntext. [23:25]
mcorlett That's your opinion. [23:26]
mircea_popescu lol [23:27]
mcorlett :p [23:27]
mircea_popescu no, it's the opinion of Horatio Bunce. [23:27]
mcorlett .wik Horatio Bunce [23:28]
markac "This page has been deleted." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Bunce [23:28]
mcorlett Alright then. [23:28]
mircea_popescu lol [23:28]
mircea_popescu wikipedia is so much fail. [23:28]
rawrmage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Tnqisce7E [23:29]
mcorlett rawrmage a.k.a. Buzz Killington [23:30]
rawrmage lol [23:30]
rawrmage it makes more sense with the context of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7HrijDkfHc [23:36]
rawrmage .title [23:36]
markac rawrmage: Rainbow Dash Presents: Captain Hook the Biker Gorilla - YouTube [23:37]
mcorlett .py print 'hello' [23:45]
markac hello [23:45]
Azelphur I wonder if I can break it [23:46]
rg vragnaroda [23:46]
Azelphur sort of tempting :p [23:46]
rg paging vragnaropda [23:46]
rg vragnaroda [23:46]
rg staatsfiend [23:46]
rg vragnaroda [23:46]
mcorlett Don't bother, it's sandboxed. [23:46]
rg hey vragnaroda [23:46]
rg hey mark [23:46]
rg hey staatsfiend [23:46]
rg vrag [23:46]
Azelphur .py while True: print 'hello' [23:46]
rg vragnaroda [23:46]
Azelphur :< [23:46]
rg hey [23:46]
Azelphur hey rg [23:46]
Azelphur hey [23:46]
Azelphur hello [23:46]
Azelphur hey rg [23:46]
mcorlett rg [23:46]
Azelphur hey [23:46]
mcorlett hey [23:46]
Azelphur whats up rg [23:46]
Azelphur hey [23:46]
mcorlett rapeghost [23:46]
mcorlett hey rg [23:46]
mcorlett rg [23:47]
rg you.. cant do that [23:47]
rg thats my thing [23:47]
markac

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Azelphur lol [23:47]
Azelphur hahahaha, I broke it? [23:47]
mircea_popescu .py print 'hello' [23:48]
markac hello [23:48]
mircea_popescu seems fine [23:48]
Azelphur I wonder if I can do cool things with it [23:48]
mcorlett Sorry, it's limited to "print". [23:48]
Azelphur :( [23:48]
rg .py import os;os.system('id); [23:49]
markac SyntaxError: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (, line 1) [23:49]
rg .py os.system('id); [23:49]
markac SyntaxError: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (, line 1) [23:49]
rg .py os.system('id'); [23:49]
rg duh [23:49]
markac AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'system' [23:49]
rg .py import os;os.system('id'); [23:49]
markac AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'system' [23:49]
Azelphur rg: you fail [23:49]
rg clearly [23:49]
rg i dont know python! [23:49]
Azelphur .py import os;os.shell('id') [23:49]
markac AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'shell' [23:49]
mircea_popescu rg why do you do the same thing multiple times ? [23:49]
Azelphur probably restricted :P [23:49]
Azelphur yea, os is busted haha [23:49]
rg cause it wasnt the same [23:50]
rg learn to read [23:50]
Azelphur .py import urllib, json; print json.loads(urllib.urlopen('https://intersango.com/api/ticker.php').read()) [23:50]
markac ImportError: No module named json [23:50]
Azelphur :< [23:50]
rg .py ? [23:50]
markac SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) [23:50]
rg .py * [23:50]
markac SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) [23:50]
Azelphur .py import urllib, simplejson; print simplejson.loads(urllib.urlopen('https://intersango.com/api/ticker.php').read()) [23:50]
rg try to write a file [23:50]
markac {u'1': {u'vol': u'3286.87689', u'sell': u'3.08000', u'buy': u'3.07200', u'last': u'3.08000'}, u'3': {u'vol': u'963.48843', u'sell': u'4.95007', u'buy': u'4.89129', u'last': u'4.89002'}, u'2': {u'vol': u'188.26118', u'sell': u'3.74974', u'buy': u'3.71238', u'last': u'3.71237'}, u'4': {u'vol': u'0.00040', u'sell': u'15.56000', u'buy': u'15.55000', u'last': u'15.56000'}} [23:50]
rg ohh there you go [23:50]
Azelphur fuck yea, I'm batman [23:50]
mircea_popescu ouch [23:51]
rg why ouch? [23:51]
mircea_popescu wasn't there a hole in simplejson [23:51]
mircea_popescu buffer overflow ? [23:51]
Azelphur .py import urllib, simplejson; print "Current intersango exchange rate is £%.2f" % (simplejson.loads(urllib.urlopen('https://intersango.com/api/ticker.php').read())['1']['last']) [23:51]
rg maybe [23:51]
markac TypeError: float argument required [23:51]
rg FAIL [23:51]
Azelphur NO :< [23:51]
rg LOOK WHOS NOT TO GOOD NOW [23:51]
rg SO* [23:51]
Azelphur .py import urllib, simplejson; print "Current intersango exchange rate is £%.2f" % (float(simplejson.loads(urllib.urlopen('https://intersango.com/api/ticker.php').read())['1']['last'])) [23:52]
markac Current intersango exchange rate is £3.08 [23:52]
Azelphur batman. [23:52]
mcorlett .py print sorted(set(range(2,500+1)).difference(set((p * f) for p in range(2,int(500**0.5) + 2) for f in range(2,(500/p)+1)))) [23:52]
markac [2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97, 101, 103, 107, 109, 113, 127, 131, 137, 139, 149, 151, 157, 163, 167, 173, 179, 181, 191, 193, 197, 199, 211, 223, 227, 229, 233, 239, 241, 251, 257, 263, 269, 271, 277, 281, 283, 293, 307, 311, 313, 317, 331, 337, 347, 349, 353, 359, 367, 373, 379, 383, 389, 397, 401, 409, 419, 421, 431, 433, 439, 443, 449, 457, 461, 463, 467, 479, 487, 491, 499 [23:52]
mcorlett Superman! [23:52]
Azelphur o.O [23:52]
rawrmage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5eIZcu4YS4 [23:53]
rawrmage hahahaah [23:53]
rawrmage that's based on a fic that's supposed to be sad [23:53]
Azelphur .py import socket [23:55]
Azelphur oO [23:55]
mcorlett .py print (lambda Ru,Ro,Iu,Io,IM,Sx,Sy:reduce(lambda x,y:x+y,map(lambda y, [23:55]
mcorlett Iu=Iu,Io=Io,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro,Sy=Sy,L=lambda yc,Iu=Iu,Io=Io,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro,i=IM, [23:55]
mcorlett Sx=Sx,Sy=Sy:reduce(lambda x,y:x+y,map(lambda x,xc=Ru,yc=yc,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro, [23:55]
mcorlett i=i,Sx=Sx,F=lambda xc,yc,x,y,k,f=lambda xc,yc,x,y,k,f:(k<=0)or (x*x+y*y [23:55]
mcorlett >=4.0) or 1+f(xc,yc,x*x-y*y+xc,2.0*x*y+yc,k-1,f):f(xc,yc,x,y,k,f):chr( [23:55]
mcorlett 64+F(Ru+x*(Ro-Ru)/Sx,yc,0,0,i)),range(Sx))):L(Iu+y*(Io-Iu)/Sy),range(Sy [23:55]
mcorlett ))))(-2.1, 0.7, -1.2, 1.2, 30, 80, 24) [23:55]
markac SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) [23:55]
Azelphur too long lol [23:55]
mcorlett .py print (lambda Ru,Ro,Iu,Io,IM,Sx,Sy:reduce(lambda x,y:x+y,map(lambda y, Iu=Iu,Io=Io,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro,Sy=Sy,L=lambda yc,Iu=Iu,Io=Io,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro,i=IM, Sx=Sx,Sy=Sy:reduce(lambda x,y:x+y,map(lambda x,xc=Ru,yc=yc,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro, i=i,Sx=Sx,F=lambda xc,yc,x,y,k,f=lambda xc,yc,x,y,k,f:(k<=0)or (x*x+y*y >=4.0) or 1+f(xc,yc,x*x-y*y+xc,2.0*x*y+yc,k-1,f):f(xc,yc,x,y,k,f):chr( 64+F(Ru+x*(Ro-Ru)/Sx,yc,0,0,i)),range( [23:56]
mcorlett Sx))):L(Iu+y*(Io-Iu)/Sy),range(Sy ))))(-2.1, 0.7, -1.2, 1.2, 30, 80, 24) [23:56]
markac SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) [23:56]
mcorlett .py import os; print os.uname() [23:58]
markac ('Linux', '', '', '', '') [23:58]
Azelphur .py import socket; s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM); s.connect('irc.freenode.net', 6667); s.send('NICK AzelphurWins
USER a a a :a

JOIN #bitcoin-otc-eu
PRIVMSG #bitcoin-otc-eu :Hello!
QUIT :Azelphur wins'); s.close()

[23:58]
markac TypeError: connect() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given) [23:58]
Azelphur :< [23:58]
Azelphur .py import socket; s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM); s.connect(('irc.freenode.net', 6667)); s.send('NICK AzelphurWins
USER a a a :a

JOIN #bitcoin-otc-eu
PRIVMSG #bitcoin-otc-eu :Hello!
QUIT :Azelphur wins'); s.close()

[23:58]
markac CallNotFoundError: The API package 'remote_socket' or call 'Resolve()' was not found. [23:58]
Azelphur aww, guess that's blocked [23:58]
mcorlett .py import platform; print platform.uname() [23:58]
markac ('Linux', '', '', '', '', '') [23:59]
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