Forum logs for 27 Jul 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mats does WoW count as a '3d mmorpg'? I've seen a few (unsanctioned) chat clients for it [00:06]
mats https://www.nccgroup.trust/us/about-us/newsroom-and-events/blog/2009/july/if-youre-typing-the-letters-a-e-s-into-your-code-youre-doing-it-wrong/ [00:15]
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asciilifeform https://www.nccgroup.trust/uk/about-us/newsroom-and-events/blogs/2014/october/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << oldie, from same [00:24]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvlI6u ) [00:24]
asciilifeform 'GPG for data at rest. TLS for data in motion. You can also use Guttman’s cryptlib, which has a sane API. Or Google Keyczar. They both have really simple interfaces, and they try to make it hard to do the wrong thing.' << l0l!! [00:26]
phf "wisdom" [00:26]
mircea_popescu mats chat client not really what this is tho. and besides, "unsanctioned" [00:26]
asciilifeform whizzdum [00:26]
mircea_popescu wtf is "Data at rest" [00:27]
mircea_popescu "clean rectum" ? [00:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nsa phrase [00:27]
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mats tapes? [00:27]
asciilifeform usg parlance for 'what you have to shove in the safe at the end of a shift' [00:27]
mircea_popescu curl: (35) error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure [00:28]
asciilifeform such as, yes, tapes. [00:28]
mircea_popescu can has off sane webhost kthx [00:28]
mircea_popescu wtf do ARTICLES need https for anyway [00:28]
asciilifeform ask cryptome [00:28]
asciilifeform i still fail to grasp. [00:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform doesn't that technically put them in motion ? [00:29]
mircea_popescu or is this the side of the bureaucracy that's not a stickler for detail. [00:29]
asciilifeform take it up with herr goebbels or whoever is in charge of this claptrap [00:29]
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asciilifeform in other nyooz, lightest blocks in ages [00:32]
mircea_popescu heh. [00:32]
mircea_popescu fucking children i swear. while there's hope to get the car, they absolutely need the car for continued existence and that school project. [00:33]
asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3eprag/this_little_kit_has_everything_i_need_to_run_a << speaking of [00:33]
mircea_popescu once the noncargetting is settle, the existence continues somehow, no longer dependant on the cargetting. [00:33]
assbot This little kit has everything I need to run a full node. Ordered it on purse.io yesterday, got it today. Total $89.34 (saved 22%!) : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1S5Qwkh ) [00:33]
mircea_popescu lmao mmmkay. [00:33]
mircea_popescu so the pogos are what, 95% saved, never will be on reddit ? [00:33]
asciilifeform 'Which way is your vote going?' 'I'm in favor of bigger blocks. I guess that 128GB drive won't last me very long :)' << quoted for [00:33]
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asciilifeform why would they be on reddit? after all, they aren't sold on pigfuck.io, and aren't particularly interested to mega-blox folk [00:34]
mircea_popescu and there's no saving of the "pay more for shit" sort. [00:35]
mircea_popescu "here's my rusted usb cable i'm so happy to have saved on" [00:35]
asciilifeform i saw that, [00:35]
asciilifeform and couldn't help but think of the soviet staples [00:35]
asciilifeform (supposedly, more than one nato agent outed by otherwise perfect forgeries of documents where stapes failed to rust) [00:36]
mircea_popescu aha [00:37]
mircea_popescu because they made them out of antimony like sane people, not out of low steel like crazy people. [00:38]
asciilifeform stainless (Fe, Cr) [00:40]
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mats I vaguely remember someone mentioning experimenting with pogo and hybrid hard drive [00:47]
mats was that you, jurov, and if so how did that go [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73146 @ 0.0005552 = 40.6107 BTC [+] [01:01]
BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/qxAAy3e.png [01:01]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [09:32]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [09:32]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 [09:32]
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mircea_popescu "You failed to recognise that your feelings for the boy were completely inappropriate," the judge said. [09:36]
mircea_popescu derp. [09:36]
mircea_popescu how does this work ? [09:36]
mircea_popescu what exactly are these "inappropriate" feelings ? this'll have to be explained, conceptually, so far it's not unlike "colored scent" or something. [09:37]
Naphex One of the first questions in the xotika AMA: Please detail your association with the scammer Mircea Popescu. [09:38]
Naphex :)) [09:38]
mircea_popescu link ? [09:40]
Naphex https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3er616/im_the_developer_of_bitcoin_adult_streaming/cthmlqs [09:40]
assbot goldcakes comments on I'm the developer of Bitcoin Adult Streaming service XOtika.TV AMA! ... ( http://bit.ly/1fzCbuL ) [09:40]
mircea_popescu oh i see, it's us politico hour over there. "the transvestite ronald reagan and the scammer mircea popescu. hurrr" [09:40]
mircea_popescu oh yeah, and "cult of shareholder value" http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1213682 [09:43]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 10:25:50; punkman: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/210758-qualcomm-will-lay-off-15-of-its-workforce-succumbs-to-cult-of-shareholder-value [09:43]
Naphex mircea_popescu: some dude on facebook was "I know the creator of this site Mircea Popescu" :)) [09:43]
mircea_popescu the world will be a very lulzy place once the self-aware 500 lbs women in tech finally take over [09:43]
mircea_popescu Naphex i'm seriously contemplating this thing where you must prove you're under 30 bmi to be allowed to type text on the internet. [09:43]
mircea_popescu i think all this may well be related. [09:43]
Naphex :)) [09:44]
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shinohai wait ... xotika.tv is *your* project mircea_popescu ? [09:44]
mircea_popescu nah, his. [09:44]
Naphex shinohai: nah but there is this thing going about that every person on #bitcoin-assets is just MP :) [09:45]
shinohai lol. "I AM SPARTACUS!!!!!" [09:46]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1213686 << does not load in opera, loads fine in gimp, BUT as a 15000 x 17044 px file, taking like 1gb of ram and half a minute toi render on a reasonably powerful box. that might explain it. [09:46]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 12:16:05; solrodar: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213429 << the SVG file you generated renders fine for me in both Inkscape 0.48 and Chrome 43 [09:46]
mircea_popescu !s from:asciilifeform bourbaki [09:46]
assbot 12 results for 'from:asciilifeform bourbaki' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aasciilifeform+bourbaki [09:46]
punkman tried random bmi calculator, says 29.35. that's cutting it close [09:46]
mircea_popescu time to hit the girls/gym/greens eh punkman ? [09:47]
mircea_popescu btw, the gimp render of that svg looks pretty nifty. [09:47]
mircea_popescu recommended for to try. [09:47]
punkman well I've always been a little heavyset, but yeah could definitely lose 10kg [09:47]
shinohai ;;later tell trinque Don't ruin my jester troll B [09:48]
gribble The operation succeeded. [09:48]
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mircea_popescu punkman anyway, the driver of that notion is this particular psychosis exhibited by fat-people-on-the-internet where they create an alt-reality in which they're not really fat. [09:49]
mircea_popescu i suspect it may well be the driver of all sorts of ultimately identical behaviours, such as redditards pretending they're not really pointless, etc. [09:50]
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mats http://reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0Q10KE20150727 [09:51]
assbot Chinese shares tumble 8.5 percent in biggest one-day drop since 2007 [09:51]
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mats o wait repost [09:52]
punkman "Talks over a third bail-out programme for Greece have been delayed because the country's international creditors have been unable to find secure premises in Athens. " [09:53]
mircea_popescu lol the bs these twerps come up with [09:54]
mircea_popescu are they simply sending the whole content of greece to work at cutting rock in africa ? nah. are they just sending dump trucks of money over ? nah. so what are they doing then ? why, the 14 yo thing : they're being really snide about the whole thing for a while. [09:55]
punkman well clearly they should build Troika a palace [09:55]
mircea_popescu it's always refreshing to know a bunch of refugees from lord of the flies are in charge. [09:55]
mircea_popescu "hey, if you don't like it - mp would have sent you to cut rock for a generation1!11" [09:56]
punkman "Euro zone countries no longer question whether to restructure Greece's debt, but rather what would be the best way to do it, ECB Executive Board member Benoit Coeure said" [09:57]
mircea_popescu i'm curious what contortion of the definition of "best" allows for that best to not be "kicking them out of the eurozone" [09:57]
shinohai The Ethereum scammers are out in full force on r/cryptocurrency today....4 [09:58]
mircea_popescu haha that thing still pretending ? how long has it been neobee'd, three months ? [09:58]
shinohai Also, these lulz: http://tpbit.blogspot.ca/2015/07/fighting-bitcoin-theft-law-enforcement.html [09:58]
assbot ThePiachu's Bitcoin Blog: Fighting Bitcoin theft - law enforcement block explorer ... ( http://bit.ly/1fzERse ) [09:58]
mircea_popescu lmaook. [09:59]
mircea_popescu is this the reddit derp or someone else ? [09:59]
shinohai Yup, same reddit Piachu [09:59]
mircea_popescu this is the one from dooglus' site that took her pic with a wooden something up her snatch right ? [10:00]
shinohai lol, wut? [10:00]
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mircea_popescu i think i might have published the log at the time. mebbe coupla years ago, just when the site was getting started an' i invested [10:01]
kakobrekla https://bitbet.us/media/images/ads/just-dice.jpg [10:03]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1D1SV95 ) [10:03]
shinohai ty kakobrekla you made my Monday [10:03]
kakobrekla yw [10:04]
punkman well shit, they lowered travel allowance to 2k eur, down from 10k [10:04]
mircea_popescu what is "travel allowance" [10:04]
shinohai Sharpies in butthole I have seen, but wooden spoon in snatch is new to me. [10:04]
mircea_popescu oh yeah that's it. [10:04]
punkman cash when traveling [10:04]
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mircea_popescu ... [10:04]
shinohai I'd like to get paid to troll here, but then I'd get a few scummy doge shavings that I have no idea what to do with: http://www.bitvoat.com/ [10:07]
assbot BitVoat - UpVoat with Crypto! BitVoat ... ( http://bit.ly/1D1TBv7 ) [10:07]
chetty well shit, they lowered travel allowance to 2k eur, down from 10k// soon you will not be allowed to have cash [10:07]
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mircea_popescu punkman go to florina or something and drive over the border 20-30 times a day eh. [10:17]
mircea_popescu or what's that city right next to edirne [10:17]
punkman Plovdiv is nice [10:17]
punkman but yeah couple girls and a car might work [10:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52041 @ 0.00057231 = 29.7836 BTC [+] [10:23]
mircea_popescu you got teh idea. [10:24]
solrodar http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1213712 << Also works for me in Firefox 39 and IE 9. but Gimp 2.8.4 scatters the text letter-by-letter across the page in an amusing fashion [10:26]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 12:43:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1213686 << does not load in opera, loads fine in gimp, BUT as a 15000 x 17044 px file, taking like 1gb of ram and half a minute toi render on a reasonably powerful box. that might explain it. [10:26]
mircea_popescu yet 2.6.8 is ok. [10:27]
mircea_popescu "upgrade moar" [10:27]
solrodar heh [10:27]
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mircea_popescu should i save a png of this or something ? [10:27]
solrodar at this point I'm not sure if anyone actually wants it [10:32]
solrodar consensus was that nobody knew any fully-automated tools that produced decent layouts for graphs of this complexity [10:32]
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solrodar I experimented with the other graphviz layout modes (force-directed etc.) [10:35]
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asciilifeform epic orlol: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/07/its-really-very-simple.html [10:36]
assbot ClubOrlov: It's really very simple ... ( http://bit.ly/1D1XOiv ) [10:36]
mircea_popescu [Note: I am pushing this article live two days early because ZeroHedge somehow managed to get a hold of it and post it before I did. Needless to say, I don't like this at all.] [10:36]
mircea_popescu lol ?! [10:36]
solrodar they weren't immediately better, and they took like 20 times as long to run, so I didn't feel like trying to explore their parameters [10:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the only reasonable hypothesis i can think of is that he accidentally posted and it got lifted [10:36]
mircea_popescu or that he doesn't actually write these. [10:37]
asciilifeform or ever did? [10:37]
asciilifeform (style is consistent since '07) [10:37]
mircea_popescu this is a common (if not the most common) issue/complaint in the "professional" publication field. [10:37]
mircea_popescu ie, send three newspaper an "Article" to write about your product. send them the same one. [10:37]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform usg style is also consistent over long periods, so much so that it makes gavin read like reddit etc. [10:38]
mircea_popescu this would imply zerohedge is a sort of dry run for rt, which i guess is as decent a tinpot theory as any other. [10:39]
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asciilifeform the thing is, his statement is not entirely unlike 'i woke up and my furniture was gone' [10:53]
assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0035 / 0.00383095 / 0.00390807 (1896 shares, 7.26 BTC), 30D: 0.00136203 / 0.00393969 / 0.00463902 (7822 shares, 30.82 BTC) [10:54]
asciilifeform somehow, the whole story - whether it was the lsd, or that the owner's 'furniture' was a cardboard box on the street - is not told in the statement. [10:54]
gribble 285.714285714 [10:54]
gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 261.0, Best ask: 269.49, Bid-ask spread: 8.49000, Last trade: 269.5, 24 hour volume: 33.62904287, 24 hour low: 260.0, 24 hour high: 269.98999999, 24 hour vwap: 263.47327425 [10:55]
davout dat spread [10:55]
jurov x.eur is so bullish :) [10:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite. [10:56]
mircea_popescu it's what makes me suspicious, really. it's not even that, it's more like 16 yo telling the pastor "i woke up and my virginity - gone." [10:57]
mircea_popescu orly ? [10:57]
mircea_popescu that trhis'd be all you have to say on the topic is louder than the newly stretched vagina, really. [10:57]
asciilifeform the real puzzler is that he mentioned it at all [10:57]
asciilifeform could simply walks around and hope pastor doesn't notice ? [10:58]
punkman where is this zerohedge article anyway [10:59]
asciilifeform punkman: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-26/its-really-very-simple [11:00]
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asciilifeform hah. ~now~ has a 'submitted by orlov' [11:00]
asciilifeform classy. [11:00]
* asciilifeform bbl [11:01]
mircea_popescu heh [11:02]
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shinohai asciilifeform: buildroot-2015.02/board/pogo/pogo/linux.config <<< no such file or directory T_T [11:04]
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mircea_popescu !up ubuntu__ [11:15]
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asciilifeform !up ascii_field [12:18]
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ascii_field http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q3/212 [12:18]
assbot oss-sec: Xen Security Advisory 138 (CVE-2015-5154) - QEMU heap overflow flaw while processing certain ATAPI commands. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRRdqI ) [12:18]
ascii_field ^ not to be confused with the fdd 'bug' from 2 mo ago [12:19]
ascii_field or the other one from last month [12:20]
mircea_popescu lol [12:20]
ascii_field 'An HVM guest which has access to an emulated IDE CDROM device (e.g. with a device with "devtype=cdrom", or the "cdrom" convenience alias, in the VBD configuration) can exploit this vulnerability to take over the qemu process elevating its privilege to that of the qemu process. All Xen systems running x86 HVM guests without stubdomains which have been configured with an emulated CD-ROM driver model are vulnerable.' [12:21]
ascii_field 'Deployment of patches or mitigations is NOT permitted (except on [12:22]
ascii_field systems used and administered only by organisations which are members [12:22]
ascii_field of the Xen Project Security Issues Predisclosure List). Specifically, [12:22]
ascii_field deployment on public cloud systems is NOT permitted.' << embargo lulz [12:22]
mircea_popescu lmao wqhat ?! [12:23]
mircea_popescu wtf does that even mean. [12:23]
ascii_field sop [12:23]
ascii_field it means 'seekrit cabal gets fix prior to plebes' [12:24]
mircea_popescu why would anyone ever use this shit ? [12:24]
ascii_field which? [12:24]
ascii_field xen per se? [12:24]
ascii_field or the cdrom emu [12:25]
mircea_popescu xen per se. [12:25]
ascii_field recall, the fdd bug ~did not rely on using anything~ [12:25]
ascii_field ask the cheapo hosting folks, not me [12:25]
ascii_field as for qemu (the base project), it is THE pc emulator [12:25]
ascii_field and ubiquitous in, e.g., malware analysis business [12:25]
ascii_field also widely used by os devs and the like [12:26]
ascii_field there is really no substitute for it ('bochs' is a similar, but even more decrepit, apparatus) [12:26]
mircea_popescu sure, in lab settings. [12:27]
mircea_popescu why'd you put it on a public facing box [12:27]
ascii_field can't fathom why [12:27]
ascii_field unless honeypot [12:27]
ascii_field xen, on the other hand, is ubiquitous among 'cloud' turdmeisterdom [12:28]
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decimation umm, I think qemu (and kvm) are the basis for nearly all 'cloud computers/ [12:51]
decimation thus, nearly all 'public facing boxes' are actually these kinds of 'machines' [12:52]
decimation hopefully without emulated cd-roms apparently [12:53]
decimation http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~fussell/courses/cs352h/papers/moore.pdf < link to the original moore paper where he supposedly asserts 'stuff doubles every 18 months' [12:53]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LNR9cZ ) [12:53]
decimation he really doesn't do that, but he does have a graph which implies it [12:53]
decimation if anything, his subject is 'number of components per integrated circuit' [12:54]
decimation http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10307323/whats-the-differences-between-xen-qemu-and-kvm < xen vs qemu vs kvm [12:58]
assbot virtualization - What's the differences between Xen, QEMU and KVM? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1LNREna ) [12:58]
mats http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jul/23/john-horton-conway-the-most-charismatic-mathematician-in-the-world lol [13:03]
assbot John Horton Conway: the world’s most charismatic mathematician | Siobhan Roberts | Science | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1JL3qdQ ) [13:03]
decimation http://csrc.nist.gov/nissc/1996/papers/NISSC96/joyal/industry.pdf < interesting: " In 1981 Hitachi acquired a nearly-complete set of the confidential and much coveted IBM Adirondack Workbooks from a former IBM employee. ... What is most interesting to note, is that Hitachi spymasters in Japan, who were supervising the espionage operations, transmitted their instructions to Hitachi case officers in San Francisco through Japanese ... [13:15]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JL6ab0 ) [13:15]
decimation ... diplomatic communications. The Japanese consulate had received telex instructions on how to proceed with the acquisition program after meetings between Hitachi and the American agents had occurred in Tokyo. Once communication was received in the consulate, the message was transmitted to the Hitachi man in Silicon Valley by the commercial representative of the Japanese consulate." [13:15]
shinohai https://i.imgur.com/4MoyAau.jpg [13:18]
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davout !rate Pierre_Rochard 2 met this monsieur IRL [13:37]
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mod6 !up ascii_field [13:45]
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* ascii_field debugging a device driver for ~2 days now; if there were to be a hell for programmerz, this oughta be one of the torments therein [13:46]
mod6 Has anyone else been able to build asciilifeform 's "stator" on ubuntu? What I have experienced is that it does not build: The libs are not copied/installed into ./ourlibs, they are installed to the following places; OpenSSL to o /usr/local/ssl/, BDB to /lib and Boost to /usr/local/lib [13:49]
mod6 this is on ubuntu 14.04 x86-64. [13:49]
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ascii_field mod6: you built as root ?!!! [13:50]
ascii_field how else could these have been copied to /usr/anything [13:50]
mod6 i am in this case... because if I didn't I'm getting a seperate error. [13:50]
ascii_field don't!! [13:50]
ascii_field and fuck ubuntu [13:50]
ascii_field it is brain-damaged [13:50]
mod6 lemme rebuild and see if i can replicate the error. and paste it to you. [13:50]
shinohai mod6 I built it on Ubuntu a few weeks ago, thought I mentioned. [13:53]
shinohai Just for kicks [13:53]
mod6 you probably did. [13:53]
shinohai I agree with ascii_field tho. Ubuntu is the retarded cousin of Debian [13:54]
ascii_field i will say again - don't run build script as root [13:54]
ascii_field nothing useful can come of it [13:54]
ascii_field if you find yourself doing this, your system is broken ! [13:54]
mod6 ok here we go. just a sec, will paste. [13:56]
mod6 http://dpaste.com/1VRTSN8.txt [13:57]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GUV2X3 ) [13:57]
ascii_field mod6: chown -R youself thedir [13:58]
shinohai mod6: I had to build boost by itself every time because of that name problem [13:58]
ascii_field mod6: you have crud owned by root in there [13:59]
shinohai after that I commented out the boost line and re-ran [13:59]
mod6 ok will try a few things [13:59]
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mod6 alright, chowned the entire thing -R mod6:mod6, building again. [14:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80800 @ 0.00056377 = 45.5526 BTC [-] {2} [14:05]
mod6 hmm: http://dpaste.com/1RYJ55S.txt [14:07]
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shinohai mod6: I almost certain boost needs to be renamed from boost-x to boost_x [14:08]
ascii_field holy fuck why are people using retarded os [14:08]
ascii_field i don't get it. [14:08]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://cryptome.org/2015/07/gawker-fires-arkin.htm (and cached article in question, https://cryptome.org/2015/07/gawker-geithner.pdf ) [14:09]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:09]
assbot Gawker Fires Bill Arkin ... ( http://bit.ly/1LOxKtQ ) [14:09]
mod6 shinohai: im fairly certain that the line "BOOST=boost_1_52_0" matches what's in ./distfiles : http://dpaste.com/02HECCC.txt [14:10]
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mod6 ascii_field: im doing this because ive put stator.sh into the test bundle, and I wanna ensure that it works on gentoo/deb6/unbuntu before i notify people on the ML. [14:11]
shinohai Hmm ... i got the same error, so I manually downloaded boost because I had a .tar.gz in that folder instead of boost.tar.bz2 [14:11]
mod6 but i have bz2! [14:11]
shinohai O.o [14:11]
ascii_field mod6: how broken does ubuntu need to prove itself before it is reasonable to declare it unsupported crock of shit - in the same toilet as winblowz ? [14:11]
mod6 this is a fair question, i don't like it any better than you do. im just trying to figure out if im retarded. [14:12]
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mod6 i could be doing something wildly retarded, i just don't know what it /is/ yet :] [14:13]
shinohai I dunno, I doubt you are "retarded" but building it separate solved all my issues every build I have done so far [14:13]
shinohai Besides pogo, which I can't get to work at all [14:13]
mod6 yeah, we need to be able to build the whole thing in one button push really. so doing it separate is fine for individuals who know what they're doing, but not good enough for release. [14:15]
mod6 this does build fine (my TEST1 bundle with 'stator.sh' as non-root) on gentoo [14:15]
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mod6 as the same with genuine 'stator' archive [14:16]
mod6 !up ascii_field [14:16]
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mod6 so this could just be ubuntu releated. [14:16]
mod6 *related [14:16]
shinohai Same thing happened to me on Debian tho :/ [14:16]
mod6 seems to me, that i hit this once right when I first tried this package -- but the problem was then (over a month ago), i was dl'ing the .tar.gz of boost, not .tar.bz2, and i've corrected that [14:17]
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mod6 i'll try deb6 again here this afternoon too. [14:17]
trinque shuttlecock's distro is dead to me as well [14:18]
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danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211627 << if you're talking about BitVegas, they took me for a whole coin back when it was trading around 70 USD per (not by scamming but by me stupidly thinking i could beat martingale) [14:26]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 04:20:03; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211313 << wow srsly ? never heard of this one. how much ? [14:26]
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shinohai Was BitVegas that minecraft like casino? [14:27]
danielpbarron ya [14:28]
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shinohai I think I played bacon races or something there but long time ago [14:31]
* shinohai prays danielpbarron will release a prebuilt stator binary for pogo [14:31]
danielpbarron haha [14:32]
danielpbarron unless that's an item in Eulora, don't hold your breath [14:33]
shinohai T_T [14:33]
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danielpbarron the only things i'm building lately are exploration markers [14:33]
shinohai I'm still trying. One of these days I will unlock the secrets. [14:34]
* shinohai knows dick about cross-compilation. [14:34]
danielpbarron same here [14:34]
ascii_field shinohai: what part of the recipe failed for you ? [14:34]
ascii_field http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html << the recipe, for reference [14:36]
assbot [BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca ) [14:36]
shinohai Using this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html [14:36]
assbot [BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca ) [14:36]
shinohai but the buildroot I got has no "pogo" folder [14:36]
ascii_field it is created [14:36]
ascii_field by the patch [14:36]
decimation http://www.extremetech.com/computing/210758-qualcomm-will-lay-off-15-of-its-workforce-succumbs-to-cult-of-shareholder-value < many layers of lulz [14:36]
assbot Qualcomm will lay off 15% of its workforce, succumbs to cult of ‘shareholder value’ | ExtremeTech ... ( http://bit.ly/1D5fTvL ) [14:36]
shinohai hmmm [14:36]
decimation "The rest of the drop-off can be explained by Qualcomm being caught off-guard by 64-bit SoCs. It had no custom architecture ready to deploy, and was forced to adopt ARM’s standard cores for its next-generation of chips. That" [14:37]
davout shinohai: i confirm that http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html werked for me [14:37]
assbot [BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca ) [14:37]
decimation "Samsung opted not to use Snapdragon 810 and the company has faced some price pressure from the low-end of the market, driven by companies like MediaTek and Rockchip." [14:37]
ascii_field what os was shinohai using ? [14:37]
shinohai Using Debian Jessie [14:37]
ascii_field and did the patch apply ? [14:38]
ascii_field (step #7) [14:38]
shinohai Asks me for file to patch, then says file not found, lemme try again [14:38]
trinque shinohai | ;;later tell trinque Don't ruin my jester troll B << whatchu talkin bout shinohai [14:40]
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shinohai trinque: For some reason I got DM'd Saturday night asking for a keybase invite [14:41]
shinohai I was hoping that "THE GREAT JESTER" would see keybase is a load of shit [14:41]
trinque oh, I was a dick on twitter? [14:41]
trinque I forgot about that [14:41]
ascii_field dm? [14:42]
shinohai Direct Message [14:42]
shinohai and holy shit I got the patch to apply [14:42]
trinque I only tweet dickery, as a matter of principle [14:42]
shinohai lol [14:43]
shinohai I thought it would be funny if he actually stored a copy of his key "encrypted" on their server [14:44]
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trinque https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrZR2tnJtGw [14:47]
assbot Don't whiz on, the electric fence! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAyo06 ) [14:47]
decimation http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/11/qualcomm-jana-partners-stock-grants-microsoft/ < lol "One key issue for Qualcomm’s critics is shareholder dilution. Over the past five fiscal years, the company has spent $13.6 billion repurchasing 239 million of its own shares. These buybacks should have reduced the number of shares in the market, boosting shareholder value. But despite the buybacks, Qualcomm’s total ... [14:50]
assbot Billions in buybacks have not reduced Qualcomm's share count | SanDiegoUnionTribune.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1IpMj4A ) [14:50]
decimation ... share count at the end of fiscal 2014 was flat compared with five years before." [14:50]
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decimation the surface reading re: qualcomm: the management knows they are in a hole and therefore are colluding with outside investors to pirate assets from the company before it dies [14:52]
decimation meanwhile, eventually all phone chips will be made by chinese & korean firms [14:52]
ascii_field sop [14:53]
trinque https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/SIMP << lol?!?! [14:58]
assbot NationalSecurityAgency/SIMP · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAAfC5 ) [14:58]
decimation "The entire idea of breaking Qualcomm up into two companies, for example, makes no sense from an ongoing business perspective — but it makes great sense if you’re an investor who believes the real money is in patent licensing (an extremely high-margin business) and not in chip manufacturing. " [14:59]
ascii_field actual release, yes! [14:59]
trinque they're diving in with the redditards/shithubians directly? [14:59]
trinque https://github.com/simp [14:59]
assbot SIMP · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAAn4O ) [14:59]
ascii_field not new [14:59]
ascii_field they had other publications, e.g., 'selinux' [14:59]
trinque wasn't "simp" what the semi-intelligent gorillas were called in Rama? [14:59]
trinque ascii_field: sure, but the fact that this is a huge wad of ruby code for puppet amuses me to no end [15:00]
ascii_field i can't bring myself to give half a fuck [15:00]
trinque which touches every possible knob on system config [15:00]
decimation trinque: what do you expect? usg was using lisp? [15:00]
trinque no no [15:00]
trinque I'm saying they have some puppet exploit [15:01]
trinque and they're distributing it thusly [15:01]
decimation heh [15:01]
ascii_field and i can't fathom why anyone outside of usg walls would even consider using this [15:01]
decimation or they are just trying to half ass the halfass tools they have [15:01]
ascii_field as far as i can see, it is an internal auditing tool [15:01]
decimation usg is nominally responsible for the 'security' of all of its computers and a good deal of its subsidary's [15:01]
decimation gotta do something [15:02]
decimation the fact that 'security' has been defined-down to 'managing /etc profiles' is the punchline [15:03]
trinque many layers at NSA, I'm sure [15:03]
trinque not all of which are utter morons, but these surely are [15:03]
decimation meanwhile the chiense are busy putting us hardware companies out of business [15:03]
trinque good for them; they have the good sense to... make... things... [15:04]
decimation see 'rockchip' et all [15:04]
trinque my buddy learning mandarin has it right [15:04]
decimation they eat from below; apparently once the bathwater is circling the tub - management & hedge funds come to eat 'from the top' [15:04]
ascii_field wake me up when cn is using something other than winblowz (and stolen american designs, e.g., 'arm' wholesale) in their fabs [15:05]
decimation ascii_field: I suppose at one point cadence will get similar treatment [15:05]
trinque ascii_field: they're busy inventing factories [15:06]
ascii_field decimation: there is not the slightest sign whatsoever of this ever happening [15:06]
trinque they'll get to the design too [15:06]
ascii_field NO ONE invests in design [15:06]
decimation ascii_field: for example do you suppose 'rockchip' is nothing more than a pile of 'stolen' cores? [15:06]
ascii_field because countereconomic [15:06]
ascii_field same phenomenon as in ussr [15:06]
ascii_field decimation: it is exactly that [15:06]
ascii_field when somebody like me says 'let's design computer from scratch', a 'roi/tco' type reads 'let's make a megatonne pyre of money and light it' [15:07]
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trinque why do they need to design new chips from scratch to unseat the USA as the leading economic and military power? [15:08]
trinque they can just eat the food we feed them [15:08]
trinque worry about being better than themselves after we're dead [15:08]
trinque or they'll die too [15:08]
trinque who knows [15:08]
ascii_field why wash hands before you eat. [15:08]
ascii_field no reason - manking got along without this, too, for quite a while. [15:08]
ascii_field *mankind [15:09]
ascii_field yes, it did. [15:09]
ascii_field why fight lice, fleas? our ancestors had them [15:09]
ascii_field (and grandchildren will, by all indications, have them again) [15:09]
trinque sure but on the one hand one could discuss tactics against the USA, and on the other, a sort of aspirational "best" [15:09]
trinque you can kill a guy with all sorts of blunt objects laying around [15:10]
shinohai Since it is too hot for tea, I chose a more refreshing drink this time around. [15:13]
decimation http://www.intc.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=850623&ReleasesType=Corporate%20News < heh since intel saw rockchip as an obvious enemy it decided to 'partner' first [15:13]
assbot Intel Corporation - Intel Enters into Strategic Agreement with Rockchip to Accelerate, Expand Portfolio of Intel-Based Solutions for Tablets ... ( http://bit.ly/1IpNtwQ ) [15:13]
trinque I see the chinese strategy as having been to bootstrap their own industrial economy by sucking the life out of ours. (obviously not an observation hard to come by) [15:14]
trinque they've done that masterfully [15:14]
trinque and if they pulled off something like that, I'd not think them so naive they think they can do that forever [15:15]
trinque *that they [15:15]
ascii_field trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-02-2015#1033283 << what powers cn [15:16]
assbot Logged on 25-02-2015 16:31:47; asciilifeform: this is, by some indications, a non-renewable resource that's getting burned up rather quickly [15:16]
ascii_field (start of thread - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2015#1033279 ) [15:16]
assbot Logged on 25-02-2015 16:31:18; asciilifeform: actually what cn has is precisely bipedal wealth [15:16]
trinque yes, cheap slaves, right? [15:17]
ascii_field ^ entirely incomplete summary [15:17]
trinque I shall read the thread [15:17]
ascii_field cheap ~meticulous, willing, aspiring~ labourers [15:17]
decimation ^ who presently survive on a few helpings of rice and some liquor [15:18]
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decimation !up ascii_field [15:18]
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ascii_field folks who are not resentful, as you and i would be if we were chained to factory tomorrow [15:18]
trinque I can certainly see how that level of devotion would wear out [15:18]
decimation because their parents were dirt farmers [15:18]
ascii_field folks for whom factory is a serious step ~up~ [15:18]
ascii_field this is a non-renewable resource, for entirely obvious reasons [15:19]
trinque maybe china will look elsewhere for people to step-up; iirc they are already doing this [15:19]
trinque just like we did [15:19]
decimation sure, which is why they are in africa [15:19]
trinque mhm [15:19]
ascii_field apparently they were desperate enough to try africa. [15:20]
decimation mainly for minerals today, but tomorrow the people [15:20]
trinque but I see how the cost increases for each round [15:20]
ascii_field result: chinese reservations, barbed wire, machine guns [15:20]
ascii_field locals verboten [15:20]
decimation ^ but also the occasional road project 'for the people' [15:20]
ascii_field easy to hold 'mandate of heaven' while subjects are convinced that they are being 'lifted' [15:23]
ascii_field after that - 'stagnation period' and brezhnev, and discontent, and 'dissent' [15:24]
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ascii_field and many toeholds for u.s. state dept., 'voice of america', hyoooman rightz [15:24]
shinohai ascii_field if I wasn't an atheist, I'd say "God bless you". It built. [15:27]
ascii_field what did [15:28]
shinohai the buildroot [15:28]
trinque ascii_field: do you recommend a starting-point book on USSR history, or is the material not in english? [15:29]
trinque seems referenced here often re: current events elsewhere [15:29]
ascii_field trinque: i know of no 'go-to' secondary source re: the whole shebang [15:29]
ascii_field esp. not in engl. [15:30]
ascii_field if you are only concerned with the collapse, orlov's 'post-soviet lessons' is notbad [15:30]
ascii_field (however, he is almost entirely unconcerned with the politics, only the consequences in daily life) [15:30]
ascii_field speaking of mr o, [15:31]
ascii_field commenter: 'The article showed up on your RSS feed yesterday. That is probably how Zero Hedge got it.' [15:31]
ascii_field orlov: 'There is a bug in blogger where it sometimes publishes a post even if the date is set in the future. I disabled feeds to work around it.' [15:31]
decimation trinque: I got the flavor of some of it from the writings of Solzhenitsyn [15:41]
decimation especially if you are curious about шара́жка [15:41]
decimation anyone who works for a soulless bureaucracy would immediate recognize the similarities [15:42]
trinque I'll do some reading on both; I am curious generally about the (seemingly) ever-repeating process of collapse [15:42]
trinque and I've gleaned some of the striking parallels between the USSR and the present USSA by listening to you gentlemen. [15:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 597 @ 0.002777 = 1.6579 BTC [+] {3} [16:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 91720 @ 0.00002997 = 2.7488 BTC [+] {7} [16:02]
shinohai Ok so now I have this, what should my next step be ascii_field [16:10]
mircea_popescu "Two Fridays ago, when I read a story posted on Gawker that seemed to senselessly out a nobody for soliciting a gay porn prostitute, I immediately thought someone should be fired." [16:10]
mircea_popescu oh i c. putting hogan's hulk ass is journalism [16:11]
mircea_popescu mocking some inept faggot is very very bad [16:11]
mircea_popescu because empire of retards over there. [16:11]
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ascii_field shinohai: what are you trying to achieve ? [16:12]
shinohai build bitcoind for pogo of course [16:13]
shinohai Never done this before :/ [16:13]
ascii_field shinohai: there is not, presently, a working bitcoind for the pogo buildroot that is made by the recipe linked earlier. [16:13]
ascii_field though you could probably build one [16:13]
ascii_field (will need a hybrid of the 'stator' script and the static cross-dev builder posted a while ago) [16:14]
shinohai I missed the cross-dev builder heh [16:14]
mircea_popescu "I hate to be hyperbolic, but want to understand ISIS or the Tea Party or Occupy or Charleston or Dylan? Look no further than Gawker and its ilk, which means look no further than twitter or your own so-called smartphone: We are making the world a miserable place. I’m glad I can withdraw and think about it." [16:14]
mircea_popescu there shall be a lot of "withdraw and think about it" in the retard camp methinks. [16:15]
mircea_popescu warkin@igc.org [16:18]
mircea_popescu host mx3.mindspring.com [207.69.189.219] [16:18]
mircea_popescu SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM: SIZE=1896: [16:18]
mircea_popescu 550 IP 188.68.240.159 is blocked by EarthLink. Go to earthlink.net/block for [16:18]
mircea_popescu details. [16:18]
mircea_popescu herp. [16:18]
ascii_field 'use gmail, slave' [16:19]
mircea_popescu arkin's loss, i couldn't care less. [16:19]
mod6 ok one problem for sure that I noticed when executing the boost steps manually is that I didn't have realpath installed. [16:20]
mod6 (ubuntu) [16:20]
ascii_field one of the beauties of going buildroot-only is that we will no longer have this crud to put up with. [16:20]
ascii_field if buildroot builds on your box - the rest will build [16:20]
ascii_field if it doesn't - walk your box out behind the shed & shoot it, get a real computer [16:21]
BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1213743 << Reddit derp and dice banner girl seem to be different ones [16:21]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 12:57:13; mircea_popescu: this is the one from dooglus' site that took her pic with a wooden something up her snatch right ? [16:21]
mod6 <+ascii_field> if it doesn't - walk your box out behind the shed & shoot it, get a real computer << :D [16:21]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo how do you figure this ? [16:21]
BingoBoingo Dice girl's nick was pikachujdc or something like that. [16:22]
mircea_popescu ascii_field this theoretical "so and so will happen" is nice and good, but also is useless in this discussion. following hanbot's mega-explosive "hey, this shit dun work on the most commonly seen linux out there" has been enlightening. [16:22]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "thepiachu" iirc. [16:22]
BingoBoingo Ah [16:22]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: not so theoretical. we just had another fella successfully 'buildroot' moments ago. [16:23]
ascii_field realize, thing is mostly cpu-agnostic [16:23]
mircea_popescu still moot. [16:23]
mircea_popescu ie, it's the assembly line for phds all over again. [16:23]
ascii_field mno [16:23]
ascii_field it is the only way to get deterministic gcc [16:24]
ascii_field and thus have all the builders end up with actual same binary [16:24]
ascii_field for given src [16:24]
shinohai now if I can only figure out what to do next [16:24]
ascii_field shinohai: play with it. change the arch to x86 and see if you can run the resulting elf [16:24]
ascii_field on your pc [16:24]
mircea_popescu we're talking at cross purposes. [16:25]
mircea_popescu step out of that context for a second and understand that if the thing doesn't build,. the thing doesn't build. [16:25]
mircea_popescu same reason gentoo can go shit in its own mouth as far as im concerned. [16:25]
shinohai xD [16:25]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: buildroot is precisely the antidote to 'gentooism' [16:26]
mircea_popescu but do we have a recipe to give hanbot ? [16:26]
ascii_field in that it builds a gcc, and full binutils toolchain, which ~then~ can build, e.g., bitcoind [16:26]
mircea_popescu yes yes. do we have the exact equivalent of http://www.eulorum.org/Ubuntu [16:26]
assbot Ubuntu - Eulorum ... ( http://bit.ly/1D6vTgQ ) [16:26]
mircea_popescu and i DO mean all the way to EXACTLY "Create a directory (mkdir dev). Navigate to it (cd dev)" [16:27]
mircea_popescu with the paranthesis, included, verbatim, everywhere, no exceptions. [16:27]
shinohai Ubuntu is just the linux version of Winblowze Vista [16:27]
ascii_field there is http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html << which gets you to buildroot [16:27]
mircea_popescu besides the point. [16:27]
assbot [BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca ) [16:27]
shinohai I am convinced [16:27]
mircea_popescu ascii_field we don't have that, we don't have anything in this perspective. [16:27]
ascii_field but overall mircea_popescu is right, there is not yet a cookbook [16:27]
mircea_popescu understand : in the strictest sense, it must be IDENTICAL. [16:28]
mircea_popescu as much as a single missing "navigate to foo (cd /foo)" means 100% failure. [16:28]
* ascii_field reads eulorum link, sees what mircea_popescu meant [16:28]
mircea_popescu aha. [16:28]
mircea_popescu now, obviously that it can be done at all is huge, and yes, all that is very important [16:28]
mircea_popescu but there's a prototype and there's a mass production in all things. [16:29]
decimation re: debian (and ubuntu): https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/07/msg00006.html < fuckwits removed sparc support from 'experimental' [16:38]
assbot Sparc removal ... ( http://bit.ly/1D6xEe9 ) [16:38]
decimation 'yeah we totally write stuff in portable code but we can't be bothered to support anything other than what Intel stamps out because reasons' [16:39]
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mod6 !up ascii_field [16:43]
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shinohai My first try at cross-compiling and I already need a drink ..... [16:45]
BingoBoingo So lawyer finally called to update on what happened at court. Shit is getting real. [17:07]
BingoBoingo Apparently the person immediately under the elected State's attourney showed up to the negotiations and demanded a guilty plea offering minimum fine and court supervision. If they want it that bad they simply are not getting it. [17:09]
BingoBoingo So I will be shuttling $200 to the drive through lawyer to argue the hearing on motions in Septembet (why he neglected to mention this before I have no idea). [17:11]
BingoBoingo By yes. One of the big wigs at the prosecution's office apparently stooped to negotiating over a misdemeanor. [17:11]
BingoBoingo In other news re:Debian SPARC http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7747553&cid=50191243 [17:12]
assbot Debian Drops SPARC Platform Support - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1InKvVa ) [17:12]
mod6 I was able to build on deb6/gentoo nomultilib glibc/and ubuntu 14.04 just fine. On ubuntu, my problem was missing realpath. DEERP. [17:13]
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mod6 !up ascii_field [17:14]
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shinohai O fuck mod6 I forgot all abt realpath [17:14]
mod6 yup, i thought it was already on there. I just never bothered to check until I tried to execute the script commands by hand and it turned up "not found". then the "ah ha!" moment. [17:15]
shinohai Glad you got it though. [17:15]
mod6 yeah, thanks. [17:15]
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mod6 my plan for tonight is to put out the bitcoin-v0_5_4-TEST1.tar.gz bundle to the ML tonight if possible. This is a pre-patched tarball of all of ascii's patches (and one of my fixes) up through verifyall. Should work only on x86-64 deb6/ubuntu 14.04/gentoo nomultilib glibc - if anyone wants to help test. [17:17]
mod6 Beyond that, I need to write upt the SoBA for this month. [17:17]
mod6 And then next month, if no one else volunteers to create the "cookbook". I'll spend all of August building that. I'll start with a guide for deb6 & ubuntu on x86-64 and i386. [17:19]
mod6 (for v0.5.3.1) [17:20]
mod6 then obviously it'll need further instructions in the cookbook for whenever we put out v0.5.4, etc. [17:20]
ascii_field mod6: i may or may not have a nice surprise for you this week [17:20]
mod6 yikes. [17:21]
shinohai I'll help test as always mod6, in between this pogo crash-course I am doing [17:22]
mod6 ascii_field: what's the problem now? [17:24]
ascii_field no problem [17:25]
mod6 lol. ok. had me worried there for a second. [17:26]
trinque remote code execution 0day in all released versions of bitcoind [17:26]
trinque surprise! [17:26]
mod6 yeah exactly ^ [17:27]
ascii_field i promise i'll say tonight [17:27]
ascii_field nothing unpleasant, i promise [17:27]
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shinohai remote code execution 0day in all released versions of bitcoinXT <<< FTFY [17:33]
gernika Anyone yet written any scripts to archive Trilema? I dipped my toe in the water, but only got as far as figuring out how to get curl to set the right cookie. [17:33]
shinohai I was going to speak with mp about archiving [17:33]
ben_vulpes !s wget -m [17:34]
shinohai BingoBoingo too, on qntra [17:34]
assbot 56 results for 'wget -m' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=wget+-m [17:34]
ben_vulpes shinohai: ^^ [17:34]
trinque !s from:mircea_popescu fair use [17:34]
assbot 2 results for 'from:mircea_popescu fair use' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+fair+use [17:34]
BingoBoingo shinohai: If you really want to archive qntra there are many options. wget, curl, that derpy browser based website copier... [17:35]
trinque it would be rude aside from theft to host the mirror, however, re: trilema [17:35]
shinohai I know *how* to archive websites, just permissions, etc. [17:35]
gernika Aha. Ok thanks. That should do it. Wget is a start. Ultimately I would like a distilled form with text + title + footnotes in some sort of structured format. [17:37]
shinohai In fact, if *anyone* would like for me to archive their site, they are welcome to message [17:38]
jurov ;;isup trilema.com [17:40]
gribble trilema.com is down [17:40]
davout mircea_popescu can't get it up anymore? [17:42]
trinque shinohai: I look forward to the day publishing is done over gossipd. [17:42]
shinohai gossipd is golang isn't it ? [17:43]
trinque not the one to which I refer [17:43]
trinque isn't built yet [17:43]
trinque !s gossipd [17:43]
assbot 151 results for 'gossipd' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gossipd [17:43]
shinohai I always want to add a "t" to the end of your name trinque [17:44]
* shinohai rhymes with "trinket" [17:44]
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trinque one can easily imagine a system with both assurances that the content being read is the author's and with fault tolerance [17:44]
Adlai ;;seen artifexd [17:45]
gribble artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 25 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is. [17:45]
trinque shinohai: I think the french pronunciation would be something like "trin-keh" [17:45]
trinque used to have an accent on it iirc [17:45]
* Adlai still pronounces it "undata" [17:45]
shinohai I do the Spanish pronunciation, "que" sounding like the letter K [17:45]
Adlai nobody expects the spanish pronounciation! [17:46]
trinque lol [17:46]
shinohai kek [17:46]
mats http://blog.zimperium.com/experts-found-a-unicorn-in-the-heart-of-android/ [17:52]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1InOelC ) [17:52]
mats MMS RCE [17:53]
trinque holy shit [17:53]
davout trinque: "with both assurances that the content being read is the author's" <<< iirc that was precisely not the point [17:53]
trinque davout: nah, talking bout an app atop the thing [17:54]
trinque author blasts his latest to however many connected nodes with signatures, and so on [17:54]
trinque is that just usenet with sigs? might be [17:55]
mod6 !up ascii_field [17:55]
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fluffypony mats: not just MMC [17:56]
fluffypony anything that uses the framework to generate thumbnails or whatever [17:56]
davout trinque: ic [17:59]
trinque davout: also how do I say my name? [18:00]
trinque (said the american to the european) [18:00]
davout tango romeo india november quebec uniform echo [18:00]
trinque lol, damn it [18:00]
mats fluffypony: ic, i haven't looked at it in depth yet [18:01]
davout trinque is the french for "cheers" when you have a drink [18:01]
davout from the "trinquer" verb [18:01]
trinque I've heard that; I wonder whether my ancestors were wine makers or winos [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6411 @ 0.00056117 = 3.5977 BTC [-] [18:01]
trinque this android thing might be enough to push me back towards a dumbphone [18:06]
Adlai trinque: porquenolosdos.gif [18:07]
kakobrekla ;;google johns phone [18:08]
gribble Amazon.com: John's Phone. Business - Black. The World's Simplest ...: ; John's Phone - The World's Simplest Cell Phone | Covering mobile ...: ; Store | John's Phone - The World's Simplest Cell Phone: [18:08]
kakobrekla perhaps? [18:08]
trinque not bad [18:09]
trinque nice looking too [18:09]
kakobrekla comes with notepad and pen [18:09]
kakobrekla http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/12/johns-phone-800-dsc6112pen--engadget.jpg [18:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S9gQdn ) [18:09]
trinque this might do nicely, thanks [18:14]
mats b-but no texting [18:15]
fluffypony https://i.imgur.com/52tk5XS.png [18:16]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S9itaP ) [18:16]
ascii_field JUROV!!!! [18:19]
ascii_field wtf is the matter with turdatron [18:19]
ascii_field nm, just abominably slow [18:20]
ascii_field and... [18:20]
ascii_field i wasn't going to post this quite yet, had been sitting on it for a bit, because no time lately to test much [18:20]
ascii_field (actual wurk!) [18:20]
ascii_field but, since it works, and mircea_popescu was lamenting the lack of it, [18:20]
ascii_field here it is: [18:20]
ascii_field http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000133.html [18:20]
assbot [BTC-dev] Rotor! ... ( http://bit.ly/1InQxW4 ) [18:20]
ascii_field ^^^^^^^^^ [18:20]
ascii_field achtung, panzerz [18:20]
ascii_field ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al ^^^ [18:21]
ascii_field this one is the full shebang. [18:21]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu here it is ^ [18:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:21]
* ascii_field goes back to uranium mines [18:22]
trinque ascii_field: bravo sir, your shiva hands never cease to amaze [18:22]
shinohai ascii_field: you are a fucking genius [18:22]
ascii_field first run it, then thank [18:23]
ascii_field could be, it only ever worked on my box [18:23]
trinque testing it now [18:23]
mod6 ah [18:24]
* mod6 looks [18:24]
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shinohai Every time I follow ascii_field's instructions I have to get out the samovar for tea. [18:26]
shinohai !up ascii_field [18:26]
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ascii_field what can i do, it dun work without tea [18:27]
mod6 thanks for posting that ascii_field! [18:27]
mod6 im gonna try to build this [18:29]
trinque note to derps such as myself, you must rename the files without the appended ml hash or w/e to verify sigs [18:30]
mod6 ^ [18:31]
shinohai Ok, tea is brewing, lets begin peeps [18:33]
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scoopbot_revived To the dishwasher. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/27/to-the-dishwasher/ [18:45]
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trinque http://www.just5.com/worldwide/en/brick/brick-black << I kinda like this one. [19:07]
assbot Brick Black ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsDyZb ) [19:07]
trinque color schemes remind me of the winamp for some reason [19:09]
trinque s/the// [19:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123200 @ 0.00055927 = 68.9021 BTC [-] [19:16]
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mod6 i hit a small environment snag in the buildroot build itself -- i didn't have `cpio` installed, now that it's installed continuing make.. [19:23]
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trinque in my case buildroot succeeded, and build proceeds up to the following barf trying to build db: [19:30]
trinque configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. [19:30]
trinque If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. [19:30]
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trinque there were also several failed boost targets, which may or may not matter [19:31]
mod6 what type of environment did you build on? im building mine on [gentoo/nomultilib/glibc] [19:32]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/27/the-valley-of-uncanny/ << because scoopbot_revived only picked up the first of today's poems. [19:32]
assbot The valley of uncanny. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsEfBT ) [19:32]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell williamdunne any idea why scoopy won't pick up two articles in quick succession ? [19:33]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:33]
pete_dushenski ;;seen williamdunne [19:33]
gribble williamdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 18 hours, 10 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: Is there a sign saying dead nigger storage? [19:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30775 @ 0.00055878 = 17.1965 BTC [-] {3} [19:48]
scoopbot_revived Holographic Performance Shut Off by Police http://qntra.net/2015/07/holographic-performance-shut-off-by-police/ [19:49]
trinque mod6: gentoo hardened glibc amd64 [19:49]
mod6 hmm [19:50]
mod6 ok [19:50]
williamdunne Hello all [19:50]
mod6 hi [19:50]
williamdunne any idea why scoopy won't pick up two articles in quick succession ? <<< lack of a functional messaging queue in the standard library of what I used, resulting in me using a hacky way of getting the bit that handles IRC to speak to the bit that handles RSS [19:52]
williamdunne Hence why Twitter doesn't have that issue, but IRC does [19:52]
williamdunne (RSS also handles twitter) [19:53]
pete_dushenski all good. i'll just spread 'em out next time. [19:53]
pete_dushenski the two today were written a few hours apart, i just wanted to publish them together since they were in the same vein. [19:54]
pete_dushenski apparently, this was to no advantage ! [19:54]
williamdunne Sorry about that, I'll look into a fix [19:54]
williamdunne Probably can just adapt the hack to use a list instead of plain text [19:54]
pete_dushenski if it's simple enough, go for it. [19:55]
mats https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/av/+/master/media/libstagefright/MPEG4Extractor.cpp exercise for a bored reader: spot the vuln in parse3GPPMetaData(). [19:55]
assbot media/libstagefright/MPEG4Extractor.cpp - platform/frameworks/av - Git at Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1SKcXqb ) [19:55]
mats can't find it? http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/103270/1/media/libstagefright/MPEG4Extractor.cpp has it. [19:59]
assbot Gerrit Code Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsFKzQ ) [19:59]
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williamdunne pete_dushenski feel free to test, but he should work with multiple posts in quick succession now [20:08]
pete_dushenski let's see... [20:09]
williamdunne nein [20:10]
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pete_dushenski williamdunne let me know when you're ready for another test. [20:16]
williamdunne pete_dushenski: mmk should be good to go [20:18]
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pete_dushenski let's see this time... [20:19]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/weak-4096-bit-rsa-key-in-strong-set-factored-more-factored-keys-follow/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/mining-difficulty-jumps-by-2-44/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/russian-block-on-bitcoin-websites-overturned/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/market-news-roundup/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/williams-pleas-guilty-to-debunking-polygraph-pseudoscience/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/us-poultry-and-egg-prices-headed-to-the-moon/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/four-australians-among-21-arrested-for-firearm-purchases/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/liberland-president-arrested/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/the-chicken-brothers-cook-up-some-ransomware/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/gavin-backs-off-blocksize-scapegoats-memory-utxo-set/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/uk-man-sentenced-to-six-years-prison/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/bitcoin-isp-unveiled/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/itbit-unveils-new-board-confirming-qntra-report/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/government-funded-exchange-bitspark-shifts-to-remittances/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/phuctor-begins-processing-sks-keyserver-dump/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/ripple-labs-fined-for-violating-bank-secrecy-act/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/silberts-bitcoin-investment-trust-begins-trading-on-otc-market/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/mining-difficulty-increases-albeit-by-a-small-amount/ [20:21]
scoopbot_revived http://qntra.net/2015/05/american-green-deploys-two-bitcoin-capable-vending-machines/ [20:21]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214302 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214114 [20:22]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 22:27:19; trinque: configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. [20:22]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 19:17:47; ascii_field: if it doesn't - walk your box out behind the shed & shoot it, get a real computer [20:22]
williamdunne Oh dear lawd [20:22]
pete_dushenski lulz [20:22]
asciilifeform trinque: at some point you have to realize that you don't actually have a unix box [20:22]
asciilifeform and go, get one [20:22]
Naphex :) [20:22]
asciilifeform buildroot ~does not need anything exotic~ to build. it is a good candidate for a basic test of sanity. [20:22]
asciilifeform if it doesn't build on your box - it is ~your box~ that is retarded [20:23]
asciilifeform sorry folks, just the way it is [20:23]
trinque given where it blew up, it is complaining of not being able to run binaries produced by the buildroot gcc [20:23]
asciilifeform trinque: what cpu arch ? [20:23]
asciilifeform the given config is for x86_64 [20:24]
trinque yep, this is that [20:24]
trinque it's a gentoo install I've rolled forward for *years* [20:24]
trinque nothing wrong with it. [20:24]
asciilifeform post log ? [20:24]
trinque sure will [20:24]
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williamdunne pete_dushenski: Silly derp there, fix should have worked and was simple [20:25]
pete_dushenski ready for another test ? [20:27]
williamdunne I believe so! [20:28]
williamdunne The problem has moved a few times [20:28]
asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://bitcoinist.net/university-of-maryland-cryptocurrency-research-grants << looks like the dean didn't give a fuck [20:28]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:28]
assbot University Of Maryland Gives Cryptocurrency Research Grants - Bitcoinist.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1SKetsn ) [20:28]
asciilifeform btw the link is broken [20:30]
asciilifeform but i found the real one: [20:30]
asciilifeform https://www.research.gov/research-portal/appmanager/base/desktop;jsessionid=GnvtVJ7XV27mBJHNNHmKHg3yDYLCdB35FJZm1lYpPQcqjwJj6yw1!1587853775!-1319372936?_nfpb=true&_windowLabel=rsrRecentAwards_2&wsrp-urlType=blockingAction&wsrp-url=&wsrp-requiresRewrite=&wsrp-navigationalState=eJyLL07OL0i1Tc-JT0rMUYNQtgBZ6Af8&wsrp-interactionState=wlprsrRecentAwards_2_action%3DviewRsrDetail%26wlprsrRecentAwards_2_fedAwrdId%3D1518765&wsrp-mode=w [20:30]
asciilifeform srp%3Aview&wsrp-windowState= [20:30]
assbot Research.gov - SEE Innovation - Locations - Awards Detail ... ( http://bit.ly/1SKevjY ) [20:30]
asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu ^ https://archive.is/2ZiCQ [20:30]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:30]
assbot Research.gov - SEE Innovation - Locations - Awards Detail ... ( http://bit.ly/1SKevAF ) [20:30]
asciilifeform Elaine Shi. [20:30]
pete_dushenski $2 mn bezzlars ! [20:31]
mats lol [20:31]
pete_dushenski williamdunne *crickets* [20:34]
williamdunne pete_dushenski: No error my side, did you post a test? [20:35]
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williamdunne Yeah scoop didn't see any test [20:35]
pete_dushenski mhm. 2x [20:35]
pete_dushenski will try... again. [20:36]
williamdunne He matches via URLs and remembers ones he's seen in the past, so if the URL was the same that'd be why it didn't work [20:36]
pete_dushenski aha. [20:37]
scoopbot_revived scoopbot_revived quicktest iv http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/27/scoopbot_revived-quicktest-iv/ [20:37]
scoopbot_revived scoopbot_revived quicktest iii http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/27/scoopbot_revived-quicktest-iii/ [20:37]
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trinque ^ worst articles to date [20:38]
trinque harumph! [20:38]
pete_dushenski i'll keep practising, i promise ! [20:39]
williamdunne Perfect :) [20:39]
trinque hehe [20:39]
trinque this just5 company does not appear to ship to the USA!11! [20:39]
pete_dushenski williamdunne wd :D [20:40]
shinohai well asciilifeform i am all jacked up on tea now and still have no clue what to change on this .config xD [20:40]
pete_dushenski trinque just5 doesn't deal with terrorists. [20:40]
trinque pete_dushenski: who can blame them? [20:40]
williamdunne pete_dushenski: cheers, we must be one of the most productive communities [20:41]
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trinque !up williamdunne [20:41]
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pete_dushenski trinque costs more than its worth [20:41]
pete_dushenski williamdunne s/communities/cults [20:41]
pete_dushenski re: http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/04/lets-cut-to-the-chase-is-la-serenissima-a-cult/ [20:42]
assbot Let’s Cut To The Chase, Is La Serenissima A Cult? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDCstP ) [20:42]
pete_dushenski ^i believe before your time, williamdunne [20:42]
williamdunne pete_dushenski: Nah, I've read most posts by most people here. Including that aha [20:43]
* shinohai likes cults [20:43]
pete_dushenski williamdunne no small task, that. [20:44]
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trinque asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/3QRD8Y4.txt [20:46]
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trinque in a bit I'll go back from the beginning to see if I glossed over a step, don't think I did [20:47]
williamdunne pete_dushenski: Yeah, Trilema was the biggest struggle. Still haven't read all of them but read enough that I cooked salmon teriyaki the other evening [20:47]
pete_dushenski nice. how'd it turn out ? [20:47]
williamdunne It was pretty good, but that had more to do with the salmon than the teriyaki. Didn't leave it to soak for nearly long enough because we were too hungry [20:48]
trinque shinohai | well asciilifeform i am all jacked up on tea now << OH YEAH BROTHER [20:49]
shinohai trinque you have any suggestions for me ? [20:49]
trinque nah, I'm also jacked on caffeine [20:50]
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trinque shinohai: where'd you get stuck? [20:50]
gernika trinque in a quest for a minimal dumb phone I ordered this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JN82EFO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage. They indeed shipped the phone to the US, but didn't work because wrong GSM frequency. Watch out for that. [20:50]
assbot Amazon.com: Tomorrow M5 Mini Card Cell Phones Ultra Thin Student Version (Black): Cell Phones & Accessories ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDDRRb ) [20:50]
trinque gernika: yeah, looking out for that [20:51]
trinque that phone's pretty as well. [20:51]
pete_dushenski williamdunne next time, plan ahead a day and enjoy the not insignificant benefits of your foresight and patience. [20:51]
shinohai cyanogenmod, ftw [20:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103157 @ 0.0005393 = 55.6326 BTC [-] [20:52]
pete_dushenski gernika neat. though a dumbphone too dumb to text "be there in 10" is too dumb for me. [20:52]
williamdunne pete_dushenski Yes, I planned enough ahead to have ingredients in, but not enough to sort the teriyaki beforehand. Probably try it again in a couple of weeks [20:53]
pete_dushenski thus, black razr is the sweet spot. [20:53]
mats yes am bringing back the RAZR [20:53]
pete_dushenski williamdunne well, you can always blog about it ! [20:53]
mats old school cool [20:53]
gernika pete_dushenski I ended up getting a samsung gusto - texts well enough. [20:53]
pete_dushenski mats it's seriously the coolest. looks a million times better than phabtards with their ipads to their heads [20:54]
gernika I do miss my old razr. [20:54]
mats am still waiting for my motorolaC155 to arrive [20:54]
pete_dushenski gernika predictive t9 makes all the difference [20:54]
mats le open baseband fw osmocomBB [20:55]
trinque I never text away from my computer [20:55]
trinque I'm also never away from my computer, haha [20:55]
trinque all I need is a device that can tell me "hey dude, open your computer" really. [20:55]
pete_dushenski http://www.amazon.com/BLU-Unlocked-Dual-SIM-Camera-Battery/dp/B00O5EU7TQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1438041125&sr=1-1&keywords=nokia+blu << i tried this for a month or two but no predictive t9 and the -worst- call reception [20:55]
assbot Amazon.com: BLU BLU Tank II T193 Unlocked GSM Dual-SIM Cell Phone w/ Camera and 1900 mAh Big Battery - Unlocked Cell Phones - Retail Packaging - Black Red: Cell Phones & Accessories ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDEN8d ) [20:56]
trinque I did rock a razr for years [20:56]
trinque treated me well. [20:57]
trinque startac as well [20:57]
trinque I am probably a unique case in that aside from calls from family, I really don't care to be responsive at second-latency to the world at large [20:58]
trinque next day is good enough for anybody. [20:58]
shinohai ok enough tea and fucking bitcoin for the day. Time for the hard stuff. [20:59]
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pete_dushenski trinque true 98% of the time, yes. [21:01]
phf re: feature phones, i used this one for a bit http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-GT-E1182L-Unlocked-Quad-Band-Organizer/dp/B007F9XJDY, main perk that it supports u.s. and international freq. downside that i discovered with phones like that is that sounds quality is shit, compared with iphone+apple-earbuds [21:03]
assbot 404 - Document Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oxm8sY ) [21:03]
pete_dushenski the iphone does have spectacular call quality. then again, it's $800 [21:06]
shinohai But then you'd own an Apple product. [21:07]
mod6 asciilifeform: got all the way through boost build with rotor, but not sure yet why this happened: http://dpaste.com/0DZW6G0.txt [21:09]
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trinque mod6: I hit that too, before I added -e to the top of the script [21:11]
trinque with -e I get stuck at the db step [21:11]
trinque that one looks like maybe there's a cd further up causing it [21:11]
phf well, that's the conversation about real computers. i wouldn't mind paying those same $800 for a phone that's not "diddle by usg", has excellent sound quality and can send sms with a full keyboard. such phone is not to be had though [21:11]
trinque yep [21:11]
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ben_vulpes i dun mind the phones. voice travels in plaintext of necessity. [21:12]
mod6 hmm, so after that, i commented out the configure/build parts for openssl/bdb/boost from rotor.sh and re-ran rotor.sh, and it started to compile... failed. couldn't find the BDB stuff. [21:12]
mod6 but what was strange is that none of the bdb libs were copied into ourlibs [21:12]
mod6 http://dpaste.com/33MSR35.txt [21:12]
ben_vulpes run it with -e and see why bdb fails to compile. [21:12]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDHSFm ) [21:12]
ben_vulpes yeah, because bdb is failing to compile. [21:12]
trinque ben_vulpes: what about minding snagging a reset-password email from your phone? [21:12]
mod6 ok will do [21:13]
trinque obviously I avoid the above by other means, but point remains, and no hand-computer for me anymore. [21:13]
ben_vulpes trinque: anything i actually give a shit about can't be reset that way. [21:13]
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trinque I use my phone like a grandpa anyway, will be losing nothing. [21:13]
trinque and gaining battery life, actually [21:13]
ben_vulpes my gmail is known to be compromised, for instance. mails not signed by me or not in response to mails encrypted to my key cannot be said to be "from me". [21:13]
ben_vulpes and the latter only weakly. [21:14]
ben_vulpes "text messages" the same. [21:14]
BingoBoingo https://blockchain.info/address/1HitLerDidNothingWrongggggghJewfv [21:18]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1HitLerDidNothingWrongggggghJewfv ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDIRVP ) [21:18]
trinque BingoBoingo: that's hate speech; arrest the blockchain. [21:20]
mod6 yeah, trinque. I got the same error [this is on, gentoo/nomultilib/glibc built on 20150713]: http://dpaste.com/27S67FQ.txt [21:20]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDJ5MX ) [21:20]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214498 << picture the sheer amount of cpu (gpu? fpga? asic?!!) cycles that went into creating that [21:21]
assbot Logged on 28-07-2015 00:15:17; BingoBoingo: https://blockchain.info/address/1HitLerDidNothingWrongggggghJewfv [21:21]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not many cycles necessary if no plans to ever spend from [21:21]
asciilifeform vanitygen -i 1HitLerDidNothing [21:21]
asciilifeform Difficulty: 6229598590911364789066338 [21:21]
asciilifeform [475.10 Kkey/s][total 1440256][Prob 0.0%][50% in 2.881999e+11y] [21:21]
asciilifeform ah hm [21:21]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo is right. [21:21]
BingoBoingo Probably could be done on paper [21:22]
mats https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/07/27/final-steps it lives [21:26]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214172 << the wonders of "by hand" [21:35]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 20:11:38; mod6: yup, i thought it was already on there. I just never bothered to check until I tried to execute the script commands by hand and it turned up "not found". then the "ah ha!" moment. [21:35]
pete_dushenski "You should expect network instability at the very beginning of the release, including forks, potential abnormal display of information on our http://stats.ethdev.com page, and various Peer to Peer connectivity issues." << hey, ethereum is just like normal bitcoin ! [21:36]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214207 << haetrs gonna haetr. [21:36]
assbot Ethereum Network Status ... ( http://bit.ly/1OxoCYg ) [21:36]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 20:38:55; davout: mircea_popescu can't get it up anymore? [21:36]
shinohai http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/a-security-firm-has-discovered-what-a-bug-that-puts-95-per-cent-of-android-users-at-risk-of-attack/story-fn6vihic-1227459712566 [21:37]
assbot Android text message hack: 95% of Android phones vulnerable ... ( http://bit.ly/1OxoJmC ) [21:37]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214219 no, tʁɛ̃k [21:38]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 20:41:45; trinque: shinohai: I think the french pronunciation would be something like "trin-keh" [21:38]
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pete_dushenski shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214226 [21:40]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 20:49:34; mats: http://blog.zimperium.com/experts-found-a-unicorn-in-the-heart-of-android/ [21:40]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214271 << aaaaight. [21:40]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 21:17:26; ascii_field: ^^^^^^^^^ [21:40]
shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214504 <<< My sister got very angry with me for saying I was going to make a "1gasthekikes" addy [21:41]
assbot Logged on 28-07-2015 00:17:38; assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 00:15:17; BingoBoingo: https://blockchain.info/address/1HitLerDidNothingWrongggggghJewfv [21:41]
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pete_dushenski shinohai hey, some ppl are touchy like that. [21:42]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214384 <<< oh, look at that, joel insani-katz and friends. will wonders never cease! [21:43]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 23:25:27; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://bitcoinist.net/university-of-maryland-cryptocurrency-research-grants << looks like the dean didn't give a fuck [21:43]
mircea_popescu but in any case, the university blowing 2 mn on idiots and raving lunatics seems different from the other one being defrauded by similarly malignant idiots and raving lunatics. [21:44]
mircea_popescu i see " The project, titled, “The Science and Applications of Crypto-Currency,” will feature David Van Horn, Jonathan Katz, Michael Hicks as Co-PD(s)/co-PI(s)." [21:45]
mircea_popescu anyway, so i guess this is what the response to the b-a shattering of the vessenes scamfoundation is, get the tardstalk retards together over in maryland to start over. [21:45]
mircea_popescu looking forward to the lulzfest. [21:45]
mircea_popescu "Since media processing is often time-sensitive, the library is implemented in native code (C++) that is more prone to memory corruption than memory-safe languages like Java." [21:46]
mircea_popescu dude who the fuck writes this pulp. [21:46]
mircea_popescu the not even wrong club. [21:47]
shinohai pete_dushenski: I have a rather dark sense of humour she sometimes fails to appreciate at first, then winds up laughing months later. [21:48]
trinque mircea_popescu: the fuck, fuck, someone get a bullshit press release out dept [21:49]
mircea_popescu trinque this is to my eyes the #1 problem atm. theo de raadt is doing decent work, but he's barnacled by idiot X Y Z ? check. the kids here, found a legit vulnerability i'm sure, but are they packaged by anon idiot ? [21:50]
mircea_popescu allowing this sort of parasitism is actually worse than not doing the work in the first place. [21:50]
mircea_popescu people need to learn to be A LOT MORE intolerant with these schmucks. yes, there's always going to be flies ready to land on the oxcart and talk about how "they"ve been plowing, and explain how plowing goes [21:51]
mircea_popescu tolerating this shit is exactly how western civilisation failed. [21:51]
trinque certainly, gotta know when to keep your mouth shut. [21:51]
trinque and listen. [21:51]
trinque which is for most people 100% of the time. [21:51]
mircea_popescu more importantly, gotta know how to open your mouth, and say "stop talking about me you contemptible clod, you don't know enough to shit out the right hole" [21:51]
trinque mhm. [21:52]
mircea_popescu in the end this is exactly equivalent to the end to end encryption thing we're doing. [21:52]
mircea_popescu none of this bs "i do 99% of the work and then thhis shithead comes around and wraps it in diarhea". [21:52]
mircea_popescu btw phf whar is that crapple binary! we need mushrooms! [21:54]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214482 << i don't have the time or patience to talk to people over the phone. worst fucking medium ever. if you like the girl why isn't she naked in your lap and if you don't why is there sound. [21:56]
assbot Logged on 28-07-2015 00:08:55; ben_vulpes: i dun mind the phones. voice travels in plaintext of necessity. [21:56]
shinohai Is it just me, or does this sound ridiculous: https://twitter.com/CCartelBCR/status/625812975086137344 [21:56]
phf i've got the makefile (that's how i was on last time) to do a clean build, i'm rebuilding right now with smg hosted files [21:56]
phf pulling those tars at 100kb down took most of the time ;) [21:56]
phf i'm pretty sure i can get it to a point of "unzip folder, double click" [21:57]
mircea_popescu pretty cool [21:58]
mircea_popescu shinohai it's not actually something. just words on a twitter account. [22:00]
mircea_popescu if it gets you to give him money good and if not maybe someone else. [22:00]
mircea_popescu "social media" [22:00]
shinohai It made my head hurt. [22:00]
shinohai No longer do i need to work and repay loans, blockchain does it for me. [22:01]
ben_vulpes http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/symbolics/genera/User_s_Guide_to_Symbolics_Concordia_Book_Design.pdf << trinque: let's go after indesign [22:01]
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danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214285 << wait are you a Eulorian or is that a real thing? [22:09]
assbot Logged on 27-07-2015 21:23:27; shinohai: Every time I follow ascii_field's instructions I have to get out the samovar for tea. [22:09]
shinohai Real thing danielpbarron I can't play games worth a damn [22:10]
phf danielpbarron: http://media-1.web.britannica.com/eb-media/31/144531-004-B9389269.jpg [22:12]
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shinohai mine isn't quite so fancy but yeah [22:19]
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BingoBoingo !up nick_thunderdome [22:32]
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nick_thunderdome why thanks bingoboingo [22:32]
scoopbot_revived Gawker Media Shutters National Security Blog Less Than 4 Months In http://qntra.net/2015/07/gawker-media-shutters-national-security-blog-less-than-4-months-in/ [22:42]
punkman http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/world/outlaw-ocean-thailand-fishing-sea-slaves-pets.html [22:57]
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danielpbarron shinohai, what is a samovar in the meat world? [23:12]
punkman boiler [23:13]
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decimation "t. The top editor in chief and the editor at Gawker resigned in protest, claiming that Nick Denton had done exactly what he had promised previously not to do in setting up an editorial staff to insulate him and “the business side.” " [23:23]
decimation I think it's fucktarded to expect the owner of a newspaper has no opinions on the news [23:24]
decimation why else would you buy a newspaper? [23:24]
phf danielpbarron: that was a picture of a samovar in meat world [23:26]
danielpbarron ah that's kinda what it looks like in Eulora [23:28]
danielpbarron right now most of our tasks revolve around that damn thing [23:28]
phf you can't have a proper, civilized gathering without one [23:29]
punkman I'm partial to the uncomplicated ibrik [23:31]
phf ibrik still requires a source of heat, and next thing you know you're trying to buy a hovoli machine from turkey [23:34]
phf http://www.freshcoffeeshop.com/en/hovoli-1000s-turkish-coffee-machine-en.html [23:34]
assbot Coffee machines :: Turkish Coffee Machines :: Hovoli 1000s - Turkish coffee machine - FreshCoffeeShop ... ( http://bit.ly/1D41vEn ) [23:34]
punkman do you have a magical samovar that doesn't require source of heat? [23:34]
phf punkman: samovar has a source of heat builtin. traditional models will have a tube in the center, that's used to burn wood like http://magazin-samovarov.ru/upload/medialibrary/3e9/%20golxwmp%207.JPG [23:36]
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phf modern ones are electric, essentially electric kettles with a spigot [23:37]
phf of course you can't cook coffee with a samovar, nor make tea with ibrik, so it's apples and oranges anyway [23:38]
punkman I can make tea with it. also eggs. [23:38]
phf i assume a teabag is somehow involved.. [23:40]
phf actually i'm hating for no good reason, i know that in africa they cook tea in ibrik, but i've not had much practice with it. know they also use a lot of sugar and mint [23:41]
punkman traditionally you just throw tea or herbs in while it's still boiling [23:41]
phf yeah [23:41]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214525 << let me know once you tried it. so far it works on two reasonable machines. [23:41]
assbot Logged on 28-07-2015 00:37:21; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214271 << aaaaight. [23:41]
punkman I prefer to use one of those strainers that fits in your cup, since I don't usually have tea that benefits from boiling [23:42]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214534 << they are simply imitating mit, the way small-time crooks slavishly imitate famous mega-sc4mz0rz [23:43]
assbot Logged on 28-07-2015 00:42:29; mircea_popescu: anyway, so i guess this is what the response to the b-a shattering of the vessenes scamfoundation is, get the tardstalk retards together over in maryland to start over. [23:43]
punkman http://heroswelcome.com/images/D/celestial-tea-strainer-2.jpg [23:44]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1D42wMu ) [23:44]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214541 << folks who actually do work are not ever, as a matter of deliberate policy, let anywhere near a mainstream microphone [23:44]
assbot Logged on 28-07-2015 00:46:43; mircea_popescu: trinque this is to my eyes the #1 problem atm. theo de raadt is doing decent work, but he's barnacled by idiot X Y Z ? check. the kids here, found a legit vulnerability i'm sure, but are they packaged by anon idiot ? [23:44]
asciilifeform elementarily. [23:44]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214543 << i agree. and this is how, e.g., phuctor, 'didn't happen' [23:44]
assbot Logged on 28-07-2015 00:47:49; mircea_popescu: people need to learn to be A LOT MORE intolerant with these schmucks. yes, there's always going to be flies ready to land on the oxcart and talk about how "they"ve been plowing, and explain how plowing goes [23:44]
trinque lost on most is the value of being yelled at by a learned person. [23:44]
asciilifeform (from the standpoint of everybody who isn't us here) [23:45]
phf punkman: i work with iranians, and they, like russians, cook a tea concentrate in a teapot and then you dilute it from a kettle before serving. i used to use tea strainer but i switched back to russian method. this way i can drink tea for hours on end :> samovar is best in that case because it provides a constant supply of warm water [23:45]
punkman phf, samovars are definitely spiffy [23:46]
trinque in other words, if theo holds back scraping barnacles at all, he's doing them a disservice as well as himself. [23:46]
trinque or wtf is education? [23:46]
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asciilifeform the barnacles are not, for any practical purposes of ours, people. [23:47]
asciilifeform they are quite like ordinary barnacles, the kind found on ships [23:48]
asciilifeform ;;later tell hanbot http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000133.html [23:49]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:49]
assbot [BTC-dev] Rotor! ... ( http://bit.ly/1InQxW4 ) [23:49]
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danielpbarron punkman> I can make tea with it. also eggs. << heh, in Eulora it's specifically called a "multifunctional samovar" [23:52]
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* asciilifeform unzips, pisses on the grave of glibc [23:54]
punkman asciilifeform: nice [23:54]
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mats musl master race [23:54]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: anybody who wants to use a specific version of gcc, will find a knob for this in .config [23:56]
asciilifeform the next step will be to turn 'rotor' into a buildroot package properly speaking (like all the various packages that come with buildroot) [23:56]
asciilifeform this way it will magically get onto any buildroot-linux that is built (e.g., pogo) [23:57]
asciilifeform conceivably the three deps ought to be a package each [23:57]
asciilifeform that way they will be built once and cached, for a given buildroot working dir [23:57]
decimation I would like a buildroot for osx [23:58]
asciilifeform wai wat [23:58]
decimation but I suspect it's too fucktarded to work right [23:58]
trinque even my gentoo is apparently too strange to make it through; god help os x [23:58]
asciilifeform trinque: what, exactly, happened there [23:58]
asciilifeform did i miss in the log ? [23:58]
mats http://www.evilsocket.net/2015/07/27/how-to-use-old-gsm-protocolsencodings-know-if-a-user-is-online-on-the-gsm-network-aka-pingsms-2-0 [23:58]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1D44xbJ ) [23:58]
trinque asciilifeform: yeah lemme dig up the link [23:59]
* decimation doesn't understand how gentoo could fail to build something [23:59]
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