Forum logs for 27 Apr 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
benkay not a typo, moiety :) [00:00]
BingoBoingo !up prestonbanks [00:00]
assbot Voicing prestonbanks for 30 minutes. [00:00]
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BingoBoingo ;;google drinkingrecord GPG guide [00:00]
gribble PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog: ; Signature Thursday: Geany a GUI text editor for GPG tasks | Bingo ...: ; Bingo Blog | - of Bitcoin and Boingo: [00:00]
BingoBoingo ^^ prestonbanks [00:00]
prestonbanks thx [00:01]
BingoBoingo prestonbanks: The GPG stuff does take a while but registering with nickserv and setting enforce to on is a quick exercise [00:01]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: in fact, I think I got quite vocal on this thread: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3862 - the proposal was to switch to micro-BTC, but the accounting software idea is the same...unfortunately it was NACK'd because everyone thought it had to do with the exchange rate rather than reading the opening post [00:02]
fluffypony well not think, I know I did [00:02]
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prestonbanks bingbiongo; i have some experience with registering and using IRC channels so i think that will be no problem as soon as i figured out a new nick [00:03]
danielpbarron 11:51:45 <+mircea_popescu> i will go as far as to say that no person that has spent one year diligently (4hrs/day) reading this logs can be stupid. << I have been doing exactly that ever since I found this place. [00:03]
prestonbanks the pgp stuff.. i'll have to read up on that [00:04]
prestonbanks bookmarked the links you guys gave me [00:04]
prestonbanks bingoboingo* sorry for butchering your name [00:05]
BingoBoingo prestonbanks: Cool, just remember some freenode shit is weird and non-standard? Oh, you don't just tab to autocomplete? [00:05]
BingoBoingo prestonbanks: The most important part of the GPG stuff is the key management practice. [00:06]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: he's on web chat [00:06]
BingoBoingo Delete restore and generate new keys prolly no less than 10 times [00:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0075 = 0.15 BTC [+] [00:07]
benkay thestringpuller: when is gasenwagen conf? [00:08]
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phf i.. wouldn't recommend going to a gasenwagen conf, not by your own choice anyway [00:14]
benkay well, the gasenwagen conf is for those scheduled for the gasenwagen but have not yet been picked up [00:17]
phf ok, glad we're on the same page [00:19]
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phf and there's a proper use of kashchenit terminology going on [00:20]
Duffer1 fluffypony nice banners [00:22]
fluffypony tks Duffer1 [00:22]
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fluffypony I have some ideas for other ones, just too busy to actually do them [00:23]
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benkay kashchenit, phf? [00:24]
ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/460164769475866624 [00:26]
ozbot Twitter / AdrianChen: Yes. There will be a live-doxxing ... [00:26]
fluffypony oh goody [00:27]
fluffypony another one [00:27]
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moiety benkay: yeah, i have to stop responding as i am reading. i saw the biting bit after. happy weekend btw! [00:33]
benkay happy weekend to yourself as well [00:34]
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fluffypony BingoBoingo: what game are you watching atm btw? [00:36]
fluffypony !up BingoBoingo [00:37]
assbot Voicing BingoBoingo for 30 minutes. [00:37]
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BingoBoingo Cardinals vs. Pirates. Was looking really good until is wasn't [00:37]
benkay ;;gettrust assbot BingoBoingo [00:37]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013 [00:37]
BingoBoingo On the deck taking a smoke break [00:37]
fluffypony ah ok [00:37]
BingoBoingo ~5 minutes laptop goes off again [00:38]
fluffypony on that note, I'm off to bed, night all [00:38]
BingoBoingo benkay: If this game gets much worse I might self up and hang here a while [00:39]
benkay come hang out with us, BingoBoingo [00:40]
benkay i was just throwing the notion of a gasenwagen conf around [00:40]
BingoBoingo benkay: IRL socially drinking today. Just stepped out for a fag. [00:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.06704916 = 6.7049 BTC [-] {19} [00:41]
BingoBoingo And headed in... [00:41]
phf benkay, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaschenism [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.06600066 = 1.98 BTC [-] {2} [00:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41600 @ 0.00094347 = 39.2484 BTC [-] {3} [00:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06933581 = 0.208 BTC [+] {2} [00:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03250016 = 0.195 BTC [-] {2} [00:43]
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benkay o wow, phf. that's...news to me. [00:48]
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Namworld Hmm, I'm looking at penalties for late tax filling. Looks like the interest charged is low. Up to a maximum of 50% flat penalty for multiple years of late filling plus 5-6% annual interest on balance. [00:49]
Namworld So far, over the last few years, anyone with BTC income would have been better off waiting and filling late to avoid having to convert BTC to pay taxes earlier it seems. [00:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06933556 = 0.2773 BTC [+] {3} [00:50]
bounce oh, it's wikipedia begging season again [00:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 33 @ 0.00648271 = 0.2139 BTC [-] {9} [00:55]
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phf benkay it's necessarily obscure. Russian intelligentsia embraced technology after the collapse and created a lot of lore. You wouldn't know unless you lived through that time. [01:02]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i'll be at the gasenconference, sure. but why waste money on a plane ticket, we'll get there courtesy of the crown. [01:17]
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asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1475 [02:03]
ozbot Loper OS » Trilema 2014 [02:03]
asciilifeform (posted mainly for my other readers, just about everyone here has already seen this) [02:03]
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phf benkay: it's necessarily obscure. soviet intelligentsia embraced technology after the collapse and created a lot of lore, which is almost unknown outside (i'm surprised there's a wp article). between political pressure and eternal september that culture has almost died out [02:38]
benkay sounds like a lovely thing [02:39]
phf sort of like usenet culture, back when it was mostly grownups running things [02:44]
benkay best part of -assets is the grownups. [02:45]
benkay (https://bitiodine.net/ , apropos of nothing) [02:45]
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artifexd I just got back from Jacksonville's first, best and biggest bitcoin meetup. [02:55]
benkay was it? [02:56]
artifexd It was 3 guys and me. [02:56]
artifexd It turned out to be neither the first, nor the biggest. It might have been the best. I don't have a frame of reference. [02:56]
artifexd I was severely disappointed in the "common man's" understanding of bitcoin. [02:57]
asciilifeform who invited 'common man' ? [02:58]
artifexd At one point someone asked me, and I shit you not, "How many mastercoin can you cram into a satoshi?" [02:58]
kakobrekla before or after jail? [02:58]
artifexd At the time, I was trying to explain how bitcoin actually worked, at the transaction level. [02:58]
asciilifeform artifexd: first try teaching 'common man' something easy. like how a three-phase ac motor works. [02:59]
artifexd It appears that there is just a fundamental misunderstanding of bitcoin. What it is. How it works. Etc. [02:59]
asciilifeform damn thing's been turning modern civilization for a hundred plus years, and not one in a hundred can give a correct explanation. [03:00]
artifexd It just made me sad. [03:01]
artifexd I expected the people that were the most interested in bitcoin, interested enough that they took time out of their day to go meet strangers who supposedly have a similar interest, haven't even done basic research. [03:02]
artifexd Err... What I mean is that I would have expected such people to have done basic research. [03:02]
artifexd But, no, it was all about "What altcoin ar you mining?" "How do we get this bar to accept bitcoin?" [03:03]
artifexd Ugh. [03:03]
artifexd *are [03:03]
benkay so preach the gospel, artifexd [03:10]
artifexd My last comment was about which adds more value? 100,000 1 dollar accounts or 5 10 million dollar accounts? [03:11]
artifexd I expect that I will continue to go to these to educate those that will accept education and to be educated by those that have education to provide. [03:12]
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benkay that's why i go. [03:15]
benkay http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/04/squatters-in-venezuelas-45-story-tower-of-david/100721/ [03:15]
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asciilifeform benkay: quite a few americans would happily trade their flats for these. [03:24]
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ThickAsThieves mircea_popescu yer gonna love these posters http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/23/duke-you-dont-say-campaign-photos_n_5199334.html [04:10]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo there ? [05:11]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lolwut. [05:16]
mircea_popescu too wordy. and "that's gay" doth not mean "that's stupid". it means "that's gay". [05:17]
mircea_popescu anyway. it'd work better if it used fuckable guys and girls. as it is... [05:18]
benkay asciilifeform: i would. [05:18]
benkay dunno bout lady v, tho [05:18]
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mircea_popescu whoa just how many people got named preston! [05:20]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony < the derpage on that github is strong. [05:23]
mircea_popescu lol irlclub [05:25]
mircea_popescu "Hyperglocal thinkfluencer, Journalism 3.0 advocate. Cofounder @ Mogadishu::REinvent unconference. Investor/CIO (chief imagineer) @ NEXTIFY Labs unworkspace" [05:26]
mircea_popescu all these fucking word wizards. [05:26]
mircea_popescu he's not a cocksucker, he's a probiscii liquidaotr. [05:26]
mircea_popescu o wow, phf. that's...news to me. << perhaps because you don't russian ? [05:27]
mircea_popescu So far, over the last few years, anyone with BTC income would have been better off waiting and filling late to avoid having to convert BTC to pay taxes earlier it seems. << bingo. [05:27]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/812/atc-to-reach-block-50000-on-time/ to whomever it may concern [05:28]
ozbot BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time [05:28]
mod6 ahh 50,000 by 2014.08.26 [05:30]
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mircea_popescu so are we bothering with making a bitbet about how adrianchen fails or nobody actually wants his side ? [05:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you mean the ordinary induction motor ? [05:35]
asciilifeform aye [05:35]
asciilifeform nick t.'s basic principle. [05:35]
mircea_popescu !up Haser-Rahamim [05:35]
mod6 haha probably the later on adrianchen, mp [05:35]
mod6 *latter [05:35]
mod6 don't these people ever give up? [05:36]
mircea_popescu artifexd "time out of their day to go meet strangers" i think to a large degree us people meet irl for things like this because it's a pretext to just... meet. [05:36]
asciilifeform toured a (1980s process) university chip fab today. [05:36]
asciilifeform recommended to everyone. [05:36]
mircea_popescu as in, they're too awkward to just meet, and a new field doesn;'t have an entire mental and cultural construct about whart "it means" and "it implies" [05:36]
mircea_popescu so... they take advantage of it. socially. [05:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but what the fuck is it to explain ? you have 3 pairs of coils and a magnet. [05:37]
asciilifeform no permanent magnet, in induction motor [05:38]
mircea_popescu mod6 introduce me to the fly that gave up on shit first. then i'll show you a cured muppet. [05:38]
mod6 haha [05:38]
asciilifeform always seems like 'what's there to explain,' no? [05:38]
mircea_popescu ah [05:39]
mircea_popescu so it's wired out of step. [05:39]
mircea_popescu derp. doesn't EVEN need a magnet [05:39]
mod6 haha, so after that, I watched a bunch of videos on the ac motor, with the induction part. [05:39]
mod6 this was one of 'em: http://youtu.be/LtJoJBUSe28 [05:40]
asciilifeform to the pediwik! [05:40]
asciilifeform https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/3phase-rmf-noadd-60f-airopt.gif [05:40]
asciilifeform point was, 'common man' probably cannot even be relied upon to trigonometry [05:40]
asciilifeform at least not in usa [05:41]
mod6 certainly not ^^ [05:41]
asciilifeform saw a bunch of engineering demos at (same) uni. they get 'derpier' every year, reliably. [05:42]
mod6 do you even sine, bro? [05:42]
asciilifeform e.g. why does a fan controller need to be an 'arduino' (microcontroller, that one could easily play 'tetris' on) [05:43]
asciilifeform muppet: 'we built this computerized gizmo with fans to stabilize balloon camera.' me: 'why not long stick, lead weight? or just counter-spin the fscking camera.' [05:44]
asciilifeform muppet: '...' [05:44]
mircea_popescu http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ventower042314/s_v06_RTR3JLN8.jpg dude... [05:44]
mircea_popescu it's like planet of the apes this shit [05:44]
asciilifeform and more m^2 than the room i'm sitting in. [05:44]
mircea_popescu nice bed, too. [05:45]
mircea_popescu the woman has good work ethic. [05:45]
asciilifeform nicer than mine, at any rate [05:45]
benkay hey they can run a bitcoin business should they care to [05:45]
mod6 ^^ [05:45]
mircea_popescu http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ventower042314/s_v13_RTR3JLLY.jpg [05:46]
mircea_popescu http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ventower042314/s_v14_RTR3JLMH.jpg << this is what i imagine when i read reddit. [05:46]
asciilifeform bigger kitchen than mine. but i repeat myself. [05:46]
mircea_popescu these people got phones and are nao experts on matters. [05:46]
mircea_popescu http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ventower042314/s_v21_RTR3JLMJ.jpg << check it out, birdy made itself a cage. [05:47]
mircea_popescu http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ventower042314/s_v22_RTR3JLM1.jpg << CEO. [05:47]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what i imagine when i read reddit << that's unfair to venezuelan slumbunnies. these can at least climb ladders without falling. [05:47]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform sure, but i wasn't considering the skillset in irrelevant fields. [05:48]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, there's a point there. [05:48]
mircea_popescu !up BingoBoingo [05:48]
mircea_popescu whoa no assbot. [05:48]
mircea_popescu omg kakobrekla emergenci [05:48]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, you're not on the AOP list ? [05:49]
mircea_popescu uh i dunno lessee [05:50]
chanserv op [05:50]
chanserv op #bitcoin-assets [05:50]
mircea_popescu mnop [05:50]
Apocalyptic just checked, indeed [05:50]
Apocalyptic well, no more voice then [05:50]
chanserv access #bitcoin-assets list [05:51]
mod6 lol, don't ping out! [05:51]
mircea_popescu lol [05:52]
mircea_popescu ;;seen assbot [05:53]
gribble assbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 57 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 33 @ 0.00648271 = 0.2139 BTC [-] {9} [05:53]
mircea_popescu onoes [05:53]
mircea_popescu ;;echo /msg chanserv voice #bitcoin-assets BingoBoingo [05:54]
gribble /msg chanserv voice #bitcoin-assets BingoBoingo [05:54]
mircea_popescu tsk [05:54]
Apocalyptic dat hax [05:56]
mircea_popescu http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ventower042314/s_v25_RTR3JLMN.jpg [05:56]
mircea_popescu ~ this is the future ~ [05:56]
mircea_popescu .jpg [05:56]
mircea_popescu now i can't recall if schizophasia is supposed to be words strung together with no regard to actual meaning, or with no regard to the language rules. [05:59]
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mircea_popescu !jd mpif [06:08]
mircea_popescu aw! [06:08]
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mircea_popescu "This extradition will permanently remove Mircea Popescu and his many troll accounts (Mpoe-PR anyone?) off these forums. That alone is fantastic news. That guy(?) is an annoying a-hole! Anyone who thinks different is either mentally ill or simply Mircea Popescu him/herself." [06:14]
mircea_popescu dude srsly ?! [06:14]
mircea_popescu self parody ftw. [06:14]
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mircea_popescu "To be an investor you simply need to invest money. There is no minimum or qualifications like you imagine." [06:18]
mircea_popescu epic. [06:18]
mircea_popescu http://m.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/ice-road-truckers-star-tim-zickuhr-kidnaps-and-beats-prostitute-accidentally-calls-cops-20140422-37172.html [06:22]
ozbot Ice Road Truckers star Tim Zickuhr 'kidnaps and beats prostitute, accidentally calls co [06:22]
mod6 incidentally, I think that girl on the show Lisa Kelly is pretty hawt. [06:28]
* mircea_popescu googles [06:29]
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mircea_popescu not bad. kinda chinny. [06:29]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmMRFF-IYAEbVFx.jpg:large [06:30]
mircea_popescu HAIR ALERT. University of Texas women's track team practices, March 1964. HAIR ALERT. [06:30]
mod6 lol woah [06:31]
mod6 imgaine what the hair looks like downstairs. probably like a jungle. [06:31]
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mircea_popescu this would actually make a great short. [06:33]
mircea_popescu do a complete late 1950s decor thing, incluyding the annoying voice overs, [06:33]
mircea_popescu young women, all excited, uber ridiculous hair [06:33]
mircea_popescu like a mockumentary [06:34]
mircea_popescu then when they go towards the line-up they take their clothes off and it's perfect brazil wax city [06:34]
mod6 haha, yes. [06:34]
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mircea_popescu Apocalyptic voice Haser-Rahamim while at it [06:41]
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chanserv voice joecool [06:41]
chanserv voice #bitcoin-assets joecool [06:41]
mircea_popescu joecool too [06:42]
chanserv op #bitcoin-assets [06:42]
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mircea_popescu a ok. [06:42]
joecool thanks [06:42]
chanserv access #bitcoin-assets list [06:43]
mod6 sweet [06:44]
mircea_popescu "At Yale & Dartmouth, the decline in US students (population adjusted) has been 24%. At Carleton: 22%. At Notre Dame & Princeton: 14%." [06:45]
mircea_popescu no wonder us academia doesn't give a shit about raping the us economy with idiotic ideology [06:45]
mircea_popescu wrong incentive structure, they make their money out of appealing to 5 bn outside the us, not out of appealing to 200mn inside. [06:45]
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BingoBoingo So... Kanye. Vs. Cranston... Who wins? [06:53]
mircea_popescu what's this, boxing ? [06:54]
BingoBoingo Solid Bitbet authored Bitet might be Navy to Beat Army taking an initial 9:1 position. [06:55]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: For the right prce anything can be boxing [06:55]
mircea_popescu lol [06:55]
mircea_popescu !b 5 [06:56]
mircea_popescu o for fucks sake. assbot darling honey come back i can not live without you [06:56]
BingoBoingo Baseball survives on being boxing light. [06:56]
BingoBoingo Does assbot need more ass or more bot. [06:57]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla tbh the bash captcha should take close values too. i keep typing 35 and 37 in there, and i always have to correct it. why all this discrimination ? [06:57]
mircea_popescu here's a livejournal explaining the problem much more eloquently than i ever could : [06:57]
mircea_popescu http://lindseykuper.livejournal.com/418854.html [06:57]
ozbot Lindsey Kuper - Humanity or gtfo [06:57]
mircea_popescu 35 IS A NUMBER TOO! [06:57]
BingoBoingo So. I have a problem. I'm trying to give a friend a pseudonym. [06:59]
BingoBoingo I suggest NegroNegro as a nym [06:59]
mircea_popescu what's with you and saying it twice. [07:00]
mircea_popescu and what's wrong with patricia or katricia or alexricia or w/e [07:01]
BingoBoingo Eh, tis friend is a fatasss [07:01]
BingoBoingo and allegedly robbed a bank [07:01]
mod6 In soviet amerika, bank robs you! [07:02]
mircea_popescu and can't make their own screen names ? [07:03]
BingoBoingo I'll hand this laptop to Jeffro and sign when I take it back [07:04]
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BingoBoingo I'm supposed to ask you why the fuck you trust Rogier so much [07:05]
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mircea_popescu how much do i trust rogier ? [07:07]
mircea_popescu and which rogier is this ? [07:07]
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BingoBoingo This is actual Bingo Nao. Fucking tried to give IRL peeps the chance to audition for L2 when assbot returns [07:10]
joecool what? [07:10]
mircea_popescu yes. what ? [07:10]
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joecool ;;events BingoBoingo [07:11]
gribble http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?BingoBoingo&&&&& [07:11]
ozbot OTC BingoBoingo [07:11]
asciilifeform 'Every few minutes the old man kept repeating: 'We didn't ought to 'ave trusted 'em. I said so, Ma, didn't I? That's what comes of trusting 'em. I said so all along. We didn't ought to 'ave trusted the buggers. But which buggers they didn't ought to have trusted Winston could not now remember.' [07:11]
BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/hold/1799535/ [07:12]
ozbot dpaste: #1799535 [07:12]
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asciilifeform L2 ? [07:12]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that is a stupid fucking idea. [07:13]
mircea_popescu exclusive control of your key means that you know... you don't do this sort of shit. [07:13]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: They never touched the key. the idea was. Would they know they way to even pretend to the key. [07:13]
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mircea_popescu yes dude but i don't want to depend on complex context to identify who the fuck is talking. [07:14]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: brings to mind, the film where they gave chimpanzee kalash. [07:14]
asciilifeform 'can he find the trigger? let's see' [07:15]
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BingoBoingo That changes things. Fuck that movie [07:15]
asciilifeform some experiments should stay gedankenexperiments. [07:16]
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asciilifeform or at least, carried out with someone else's arse in the cockpit. [07:17]
BingoBoingo Probably. Also some rifles should probably be more frequently loaded [07:17]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: don't bugger your mag spring. [07:17]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That is such an American directed slur [07:18]
asciilifeform srsly [07:18]
asciilifeform springs want to relax [07:18]
BingoBoingo Prolly true butt... [07:18]
asciilifeform purely practical advice. [07:18]
BingoBoingo Insurance on this experiment was 103 year old. [07:19]
asciilifeform ww1 piece? [07:20]
BingoBoingo Age not definitely catalogued on that piece [07:20]
BingoBoingo Missouri Publishing Company [07:21]
BingoBoingo Allegedly... [07:21]
asciilifeform bolt-action encyclopaedia? [07:22]
BingoBoingo Closer answer [07:22]
asciilifeform lol [07:22]
BingoBoingo Friend handed locked machinery and commanded answer or not. Giving IRL acquantance a chance. They failed by not supposing NCO. [07:23]
* asciilifeform wonders if channel manual should maybe link to 'shall be delivered' [07:24]
BingoBoingo Shouldn't all channels? [07:24]
mircea_popescu ;;ud Button stitcher [07:25]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=button%20stitcher | button stitcher. A lesbian who spends all her time giving other women clitoral orgasms. Sibling A: Why do her friends always moan and groan when they enter  ... [07:25]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: button stitcher [07:25]
BingoBoingo During late ill founded exercise I had machete [07:25]
asciilifeform 'publishing company.' i knew that 'remington' also made typewriter, but this... [07:26]
BingoBoingo I actually have a couple "brands" registered [07:26]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/and-now-for-part-2-of-our-smash-hit-hey-stupid-women-we-need-to-talk-smart-women-don’t-want-to-be-with-you-anymore/ [07:44]
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mod6 lol 'bash a fanny' [07:50]
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mircea_popescu i raided wikipedia sensitivity page [07:50]
mircea_popescu had no fucking idea these are even terms of art. [07:51]
mircea_popescu chunder ? srsly ? [07:51]
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mircea_popescu http://lindseykuper.livejournal.com/418854.html?thread=2967590#t2967590 [08:03]
ozbot Lindsey Kuper - Humanity or gtfo [08:03]
mircea_popescu ahahah check out these two going at each other. [08:04]
mircea_popescu livejournal still has the best drama, 20 fucking years later. it's where fuck you, i'm a dragon was born, too. [08:05]
mircea_popescu i wonder why this is. [08:06]
mircea_popescu http://debate.livejournal.com/2638665.html for the curious. [08:11]
ozbot debate: Beliefs. [08:11]
jborkl_ mircea - block explorer is finally done, i had to figure out server blocks in nginx . i will put it up monday [08:12]
mircea_popescu cool! [08:12]
jborkl_ yeah it was tough but it is integrated and works well and the server seemsbto be ok with everything [08:13]
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mircea_popescu o wow, turns out the starblade character was stabbed to death a few years ago. [08:16]
mircea_popescu them furries be dangerous. [08:17]
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jborkl_ i only like the hairless furries [08:19]
mircea_popescu lol [08:21]
mircea_popescu yeah, i wonder if they have bikini waxing in furry land. [08:21]
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Duffer1 thanks [08:31]
mircea_popescu yee [08:31]
Duffer1 i had a snappy line about that subject meriting research [08:31]
Duffer1 then i had to load up kleopatra [08:31]
Duffer1 and auth [08:32]
Duffer1 it was dumb anyways [08:32]
Duffer1 the process saved me from myself [08:32]
mircea_popescu supposedly this is how the process works [08:32]
Duffer1 indeed [08:32]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [14:04]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [14:04]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [14:04]
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mircea_popescu ty [14:06]
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mircea_popescu still no assbot huh! [14:06]
Apocalyptic kako is on vacation [14:06]
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fluffypony Apocalyptic is the new assbot [14:07]
mircea_popescu lol. i had him called, poor guy [14:07]
Apocalyptic sadly fluffypony [14:07]
mircea_popescu prolly took the girl on a trip, assbot got jealous went offline as they were leaving the house [14:07]
FabianB hmm.. maybe -m till he's back? [14:07]
fluffypony FabianB: if it's in the chan flags I don't think you can -m [14:07]
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Apocalyptic of course you can [14:08]
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fluffypony lemme clarify [14:08]
Apocalyptic anyway I offered that solution to mircea [14:08]
fluffypony if it's enforced by chanserv you can't [14:08]
fluffypony (mode lock) [14:08]
mircea_popescu i'll assbot a while too. [14:13]
Apocalyptic fluffypony, oh, missed the "if" in your sentence [14:14]
fluffypony has kako made assbot's source available? [14:15]
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Apocalyptic .d [14:27]
ozbot 6.979 billion | Next Diff in 408 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.5132% in 2d 10h 2m 0s [14:27]
mircea_popescu Adam Foltzer @Mircea_Popescu Wow dude congrats on exemplifying so much of what's wrong with men in tech [14:30]
mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu @acfoltzer I'm not in tech ; you're not a man. [14:30]
mircea_popescu this is going well... [14:30]
fluffypony lol [14:31]
mircea_popescu no but this idiot. harps about how people assume [14:31]
mircea_popescu then proceeds to assume im in tech. [14:31]
mircea_popescu some fucking internal consistency plox, dear libtards. [14:32]
mircea_popescu i happen to be more insulted by that proposition than any woman can be about being called a guy. [14:32]
ThickAsThieves I was debating researching all the descriptive words used in those "You don't say" posters to see how many had similar origins [14:47]
ThickAsThieves but meh [14:48]
mircea_popescu i would suspect there's better use of your time, because they all have the same origin : [14:48]
mircea_popescu people who wanted to be academics but weren't smart enough, trying to create an imaginary problem with no possible solutions that'll keep them in the grant biz. [14:48]
ThickAsThieves what's this @ + name stuff it hurts my eyes [14:48]
mircea_popescu there's exactly 0 overlap between those words as used on the street and those words as used on duke posters. they've never even seen each other, the latter are like synthetic milk with a cow farm fobia. [14:49]
ThickAsThieves well, i think all you have to do is look at the word nigger [14:50]
ThickAsThieves black people "took" it back [14:51]
ThickAsThieves and now it just has more meanings [14:51]
ThickAsThieves well why can't it be that "gay" was taken back [14:51]
ThickAsThieves now it just means dont be stupid [14:51]
ThickAsThieves and that youre gay [14:52]
mircea_popescu wait why am i gay again ?! [14:52]
ThickAsThieves choose a definition [14:52]
mircea_popescu no see, this is why it can't be taken back. [14:52]
ThickAsThieves if you are smart, youll choose the one the fits the context best [14:52]
mircea_popescu poor fucking word meant HAPPY ffs. [14:52]
ThickAsThieves if you are an ass, you'll choose the one that most offenfs you [14:53]
ThickAsThieves i mean shit, in MA "so gay" was used every 5 minutes by us kids [14:53]
ThickAsThieves we didnt even know what "gay" was otherwise [14:53]
Apocalyptic same with the french "gai" btw [14:54]
mircea_popescu what did so gay mean ? [14:54]
ThickAsThieves lame [14:54]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic yeah, if a decade delayed [14:54]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lame as in, without a limb ? [14:54]
ThickAsThieves lol [14:54]
ThickAsThieves no [14:54]
mircea_popescu :D [14:54]
fluffypony if you're offended by me calling you a retarded tranny, then you need to stop being a pussy, smoke a fag, man the fuck up, and quit being a whiny bitch. Because that's so gay, bro. No homo. [14:55]
ThickAsThieves like stupid, but not brain stupid [14:55]
fluffypony let's put that on a poster and send it to duke [14:55]
ThickAsThieves it also means unfair [14:55]
ThickAsThieves i got pulled over by the cops [14:56]
ThickAsThieves so gay [14:56]
fluffypony that's pretty lame of them [14:56]
ThickAsThieves i guess it distills to "bad" [14:56]
ThickAsThieves yet somehow, i dont hate the gays! [14:57]
ThickAsThieves well some i do, but yknow [14:57]
ThickAsThieves lol i like how the bitbet says "Altcoin, the only altcoin" [14:58]
fluffypony http://bigstory.ap.org/article/diggers-ready-unearth-ataris-et-games-0 [15:06]
ozbot Diggers find Atari's E.T. games in landfill [15:06]
ThickAsThieves I wonder should the decimal be removed from ATC? [15:06]
ThickAsThieves also there's a problem aith this Altcoin bet [15:08]
ThickAsThieves it doesnt accept ATC [15:08]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so theres your chance to make an atc : offer people bet translation services. [15:12]
mircea_popescu they send you atc, you make the bet. [15:12]
mircea_popescu if they send you the atc through sending you the privkey rather than through transferring, [15:13]
mircea_popescu you can use that same btc address so they know you've not cheated them [15:13]
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mircea_popescu (this, of course, only works if they're willing to take btc delivery) [15:13]
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* kakobrekla removes channel operator status from Apocalyptic kakobrekla mircea_popescu [15:16]
kakobrekla gtfo my ops [15:16]
Apocalyptic that's so nice of you [15:16]
kakobrekla oh sorry i meant good morning [15:16]
kakobrekla the keys are right next to eachother [15:17]
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mircea_popescu hello kakobrekla, raper of assbots, sleeper of long time. [15:21]
mircea_popescu !jd mpif [15:22]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 50.24715198 BTC [15:22]
ThickAsThieves and then i get another link removed from my chain for being a gambling bookie [15:24]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/ asciilifeform [15:34]
ozbot The complexity of life, a triad pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [15:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03543998 = 0.319 BTC [+] {2} [15:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03908 = 0.3126 BTC [-] [15:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-] [15:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+] {2} [15:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.039808 = 0.3981 BTC [+] {3} [15:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-] {2} [15:44]
Naphex morning [15:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+] [15:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999 = 0.3199 BTC [+] [15:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 13 @ 0.0742218 = 0.9649 BTC [-] {2} [15:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999 = 0.3199 BTC [+] {2} [15:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+] {2} [15:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-] {2} [15:46]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03543998 = 0.1063 BTC [+] [15:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03543998 = 0.1772 BTC [+] [15:49]
moiety mewning [15:52]
mircea_popescu hai [15:53]
moiety o its totally aftermewn here, how did that happen [15:53]
moiety how are we? [15:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.03792002 = 0.1138 BTC [-] {2} [15:53]
mircea_popescu we are happy! [15:54]
moiety did you eat? [15:54]
mircea_popescu i ate [15:54]
moiety :) [15:54]
mircea_popescu a manul [15:54]
* moiety gasps in horror! [15:54]
moiety a moment silence please - manul down! [15:55]
moiety is this the root of today's happy? (side note -- i think a manul would taste good, most hard to catch things do) [15:56]
mircea_popescu nah, carnivores usually taste awful [15:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3244 @ 0.00094338 = 3.0603 BTC [-] [15:59]
moiety i should taste quite nice then [16:02]
mircea_popescu fluffypony https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmOLwECCcAEgy2X.png:large [16:03]
mircea_popescu you come out ahead. [16:03]
mircea_popescu moiety do you get enough exercise ? [16:03]
mircea_popescu the less you get, the better you taste. [16:03]
moiety i am small, i feel like exercise might kill me [16:04]
kakobrekla lol [16:04]
moiety walking to the kitchen and lifting baking trays is enough [16:04]
Naphex http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/04/kkk-leader-caught-with-a-black-male-prostitute.html [16:05]
ozbot KKK Leader Caught With a Black Male Prostitute -- NYMag [16:05]
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moiety also, sometimes, i am marinated in rose. i think this flavours me [16:06]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlnQsPxCIAAyWUl.png:large [16:07]
mircea_popescu #bitcoin-assetsa, [16:08]
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mircea_popescu #bitcoin-assets, now welcoming for voraphiles [16:08]
Naphex :)) [16:09]
mircea_popescu Sterling once said he did not like to rent to Hispanics because they "smoke, drink and just hang around the building," and that "Black tenants smell and attract vermin." [16:10]
mircea_popescu In December 2010, it was revealed that Sterling had been heckling his own players from his courtside seats, specifically focusing on point guard Baron Davis [16:13]
mircea_popescu ahaha this guy should have his own show [16:13]
fluffypony lol [16:13]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/#comment-99355 [16:42]
mircea_popescu answer't [16:44]
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asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/#comment-99359 [16:57]
ozbot The complexity of life, a triad pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [16:57]
mircea_popescu answer't again :D [17:05]
mircea_popescu meanwhile in #blackhatworld on irc.blackhatworld.com : [17:05]
mircea_popescu ghengis_khan> im good at watching porn [17:05]
mircea_popescu how do you know this ? [17:05]
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mircea_popescu because ive been doing it for 15 years now [17:05]
mircea_popescu that's no criteria. obama has been trying to be a president for a while, he still sucks at it. [17:05]
fluffypony oh bhw [17:06]
fluffypony lawl [17:06]
fluffypony ok so now I've gone to look at a bunch of pictures of wasps killing spiders [17:07]
fluffypony cray cray [17:07]
mircea_popescu they're pretty cool imo [17:07]
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fluffypony yeah very [17:08]
mircea_popescu http://bugguide.net/node/view/6763 [17:16]
ozbot Spider Wasp - Entypus unifasciatus - BugGuide.Net [17:16]
mircea_popescu mine was an entypus too, im pretty sure, but not exactly this one. [17:16]
fluffypony it's huge [17:17]
fluffypony (that's what she said) [17:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i sent a chick your way, https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/460424480620552193 [17:25]
mircea_popescu she's hawt, have fun. [17:25]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: who is this minerpart dude on the phorumz? him and jimothy seem to have personal grudges [17:30]
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mircea_popescu i have no idea [17:31]
fluffypony this is apparently joke of the week to them: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cei/nicolae-popescu/view [17:31]
mircea_popescu people no longer have the common fucking decency to self-identify when they're butthurt [17:32]
mircea_popescu "i'm the boyfriend of that chick you picked up at a traffic stop in 2011 ASSHOLE!11" [17:32]
mircea_popescu lol fucking spammer mental process. "it's close, only 3 bits of difference!!1" [17:34]
fluffypony lol [17:34]
mircea_popescu i guess this sort of scum populating the underbelly of the internet that makes up the redditors and wikipedians and bitcoin forum "investors" and quora experts and seo experts and so on and so forth [17:34]
mircea_popescu they're the ultimate genetically evolved FPGA [17:34]
fluffypony don't forget Yahoo! Answers answer-ers [17:35]
mircea_popescu or yahoo business boards. [17:35]
mircea_popescu plus livejournal folk [17:35]
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ThickAsThieves another popescu and his friends have some new quantum theory on flow of time [17:46]
mircea_popescu "A lot more men than women choose to do seemingly irrational things such as become petty criminals, fly homebuilt helicopters, play video games, and keep tropical fish as pets (98 percent of the attendees at the American Cichlid Association convention that I last attended were male). Should we be surprised that it is mostly men who spend 10 years banging their heads against an equation-filled blackboard in hopes of lan [17:47]
mircea_popescu ding a $35,000/year post-doc job?" [17:47]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves all counted i would estimate there's between 100k and 500k popescus alive today. [17:47]
ThickAsThieves forum will be busy at least [17:47]
mircea_popescu Having been both a student and teacher at MIT, my personal explanation for men going into science is the following: young men strive to achieve high status among their peer group ; men tend to lack perspective and are unable to step back and ask the question "is this peer group worth impressing?" [17:47]
ThickAsThieves well, what makes an all-male peer group worth impressing? [17:48]
ThickAsThieves power? [17:48]
ThickAsThieves that theory seems flawed [17:49]
mircea_popescu power, if you seek power, money, if you seek money [17:50]
mircea_popescu knowledge, social preminence, whatever it is. [17:51]
ThickAsThieves purpose [17:51]
mircea_popescu that you can't seek. [17:51]
mircea_popescu but the entire roman republic, pre empire, can be correctly summarized as a set of benches somewhere, and people vying for position on the best bench. [17:51]
mircea_popescu all it was was a hs cafeteria, really. [17:52]
mircea_popescu all that followed followed from this simple principle, a hundred men wanted to sort out who sits where in the forum. [17:52]
mircea_popescu took seven or so centuries. [17:52]
ThickAsThieves meanwhile #b-a is hapening [17:53]
mircea_popescu so it is. [17:53]
ThickAsThieves so i could live like a king in cape town? [17:54]
mircea_popescu apparently 1mn buys you 2k sq feet of premium housing there. [17:54]
ThickAsThieves their winter is summer [17:56]
ThickAsThieves neat [17:56]
ThickAsThieves "Cape Town, has the highest concentration of threatened species of any continental area of equivalent size in the world." [17:58]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: see, all the signs are pointing towards one place [18:00]
fluffypony well, one general vicinity [18:00]
ThickAsThieves i dunno i think this luxiry property thing i sskewed [18:02]
fluffypony well certainly for parts of Cape Town like Camps Bay and Clifton [18:03]
fluffypony R10 mil ($1 mil-ish) won't even touch sides there [18:03]
fluffypony maybe a very small apartment with limited sea view [18:03]
fluffypony and Bishops Court is also crazy expensive [18:03]
fluffypony but for the most part R10 mil will get you a pretty huge and elaborate place [18:04]
fluffypony with a fantastic view [18:04]
fluffypony for eg. http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-houses-flats-for-sale/blouberg/uninterrupted-views/1001118561500910004851009 [18:05]
fluffypony http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-houses-flats-for-sale/parow/the-bishopscourt-of-the-northern-suburbs/1001121944610910002300409 [18:05]
ozbot The "Bishopscourt" of the Northern Suburbs | Parow | Gumtree South Africa | 112194461 [18:05]
fluffypony http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-houses-flats-for-sale/paarl/paarl-an-architectural-tour+de+force/1001121885530910222867109 [18:05]
ozbot PAARL: AN ARCHITECTURAL TOUR-DE-FORCE | Paarl | Gumtree South Africa | 112188553 [18:05]
fluffypony those are all $1 mil [18:06]
fluffypony and they're all 4-6 bedrooms with views [18:06]
fluffypony you can even get a 30 acre farm near Cape Point with cottages and farm house for that [18:07]
ThickAsThieves that last one is pretty neat [18:07]
ThickAsThieves kinda cramped lookin [18:08]
ThickAsThieves but interesting stuff [18:08]
fluffypony yeah it's not my sorta style [18:08]
fluffypony but still, $1 mil goes a lot further here than the small-ish town my in-laws are in in Germany [18:08]
ThickAsThieves it seems not too different than where i am [18:09]
ThickAsThieves you can get get a plain new house for like $180k 2000sqft [18:09]
ThickAsThieves and then if you have $1m you can look at the nice waterfront stuff [18:10]
fluffypony I wonder what criteria they used for that list [18:10]
fluffypony like maybe cities of a certain size? [18:10]
ThickAsThieves probably which places they sell real estate in ;) [18:10]
fluffypony lol [18:10]
fluffypony the wife watches this show called Mieten Kaufen Wohnen where Germans go house hunting [18:12]
fluffypony every time they have an old retired person who's moving out of Germany they look at houses in Spain or Ibiza or Cape Town [18:12]
ThickAsThieves my wife watches some of those US versions [18:12]
ThickAsThieves i cant stand them [18:13]
fluffypony neither [18:13]
fluffypony the first few times I watched it it was interesting [18:13]
fluffypony and then I was like "wtf, all they do is look at houses" [18:13]
ThickAsThieves and expose the egos of the agents [18:13]
ThickAsThieves and make fake situations [18:13]
fluffypony lol [18:13]
fluffypony if they can engineer some tears they do [18:14]
mircea_popescu women stuff. it's incomprehensible, but required for a functioning society. [18:15]
Naphex "You try and do your best for women, but they all just run us down. Bitches" ;] [18:19]
fluffypony the only exception are the Gazorpian women of Gazorpazorp [18:21]
mircea_popescu wait what ?! [18:22]
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fluffypony http://video.adultswim.com/rick-and-morty/raising-gazorpazorp.html [18:23]
ozbot Rick and Morty : Raising Gazorpazorp - Adult Swim Gold Episodes [18:23]
fluffypony magnet:?xt=urn:btih:34184ef12f89fa7ea9ea453dfae16553d51d82a2&dn=Rick+and+Morty+S01E07+Raising+Gazorpazorp+HDTV+x264&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337 [18:24]
fluffypony if you'd prefer the torrent [18:24]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves what problem is that ? [19:22]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i guess after my extradition i can STILL make more than the average forum guy. [19:23]
fluffypony lawl [19:23]
mircea_popescu so can pirate. [19:23]
fluffypony wow, Coinbase has 1.2 million customer wallets, that's a goxing waiting to happen [19:24]
mircea_popescu according to whom ? [19:24]
fluffypony saw it mentioned on the redditz, but presumably according to them [19:24]
mircea_popescu jd has 20mn accounts or something. [19:25]
mircea_popescu same process : every noncookied page load gets one. [19:25]
asciilifeform so, 'critical mass' of coin opens black hole? [19:25]
fluffypony I wouldn't be surprised - every time someone buys BTC through them doesn't it create a wallet? [19:25]
fluffypony so they've had 1.2 million people use them, not unsurprising [19:25]
mircea_popescu 1,2mn different sessions. [19:25]
asciilifeform reminds me of russian madman v. pelevin's story 'Пространство Фридмана' ('Friedman-space.') where somebody tests this hypothesis experimentally. [19:25]
mircea_popescu if you run awstats, that's "visits" [19:26]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: no you have to create an account to use them, not based on a cookie'd ID [19:26]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/awstats-and-stuff/ << trilema had 1.5mn readers q1. [19:26]
ozbot Awstats and stuff pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [19:26]
fluffypony I know a bunch of people in the US that think Coinbase is *the* only way to buy Bitcoin [19:26]
fluffypony they are going to get burnt [19:26]
mircea_popescu and they own 1.5 btc between themselves ? [19:26]
fluffypony prolly [19:27]
asciilifeform i can confirm. a number of people i know in person seem to use it. [19:27]
jurov Bitcoin Bourse welcomes 3100 International Investors and Traders [19:28]
asciilifeform tell them about autosnitch, etc. - 'ok, we're condemned, what can we do' [19:28]
jurov ^ got this in everyday's spam from lulzbourse [19:28]
fluffypony I know some of the OTC/localbitcoins sellers do the sell with GWallet/wire transfer/cash > deposit into bank -> instant buy on CoinBase, rinse/repeat [19:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how very russian. [19:29]
fluffypony till they get screwed by their buy order being cancelled [19:29]
asciilifeform these are usians [19:29]
asciilifeform folks i work with. [19:29]
mircea_popescu anyway, going back to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2014#645113 [19:29]
fluffypony jurov: "investors" and "traders" :-P [19:29]
mircea_popescu there's no argbument that the us-based vc-scammers are very good at what they do : faking numbers. [19:29]
asciilifeform but granted, the psychology is very reminiscent of '90s russia, when it had no formal tax code [19:30]
mircea_popescu the whatsapp had "users", airbnb is "a success", coindesk is being pumped by gigaom as "relevant" and coindesk has a lot of users and etc. [19:30]
asciilifeform everyone made his peace with being a candidate for the wagen [19:30]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, none of this matters in any actual sense. [19:30]
mircea_popescu i mean i get it, the average us peon thinks oprah is one of the richest people in the history of the world, [19:31]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: coinbase yo, coindesk is the news site [19:31]
mircea_popescu and obviously the us one of the richest countries. [19:31]
mircea_popescu this is fine, but also irrelevant. [19:31]
mircea_popescu fluffypony they're only different if you're into splitting hairs. otherwise, same people. [19:31]
fluffypony true [19:31]
asciilifeform us one of the richest countries << the automobilist term of art is, i believe, 'running on fumes' [19:31]
mircea_popescu buncha smartasses went wild coupla years ago, made coin*, base, desk, lab, what have you [19:31]
mircea_popescu figured they're me or some shit. [19:31]
fluffypony lol asciilifeform [19:32]
fluffypony "borrowed time" is also relevant [19:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform depending on what measure of wealth you use. but if you consider % of extant gold shipped to capitol, the us is way behind england, rome and pretty much every empire in between [19:32]
mircea_popescu sort-of on par with the bulgarian empire of 900ad [19:32]
asciilifeform didn't help... madrid. [19:33]
mircea_popescu exactly. [19:33]
mircea_popescu they did the same exact mistake, much higher scale : got all the gold, pestered the jews, [19:34]
mircea_popescu a century later... gone. [19:34]
mircea_popescu there are people you do not mess with, or else your head. [19:34]
benkay teh jooz? :P [19:35]
mircea_popescu well cca 1500, the jooz. [19:35]
mircea_popescu spanish/european jooz were the merchant class pretty much. [19:35]
mircea_popescu principally due to the important benefits one derives from... rootless cosmopolitanism, [19:36]
mircea_popescu also known as the view that locations have to make you offers, rather than vice-versa. [19:36]
mircea_popescu kinda why regressive tax is actually the only way for national/polis stability. it acts as a de facto offer. [19:37]
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asciilifeform the folks who flock to 'new! legal!' u.s. btc exchanges, remind me of the ones who buy and smoke the 'legal marijuana substitute' stuff [19:37]
asciilifeform aka 'bath salt' [19:38]
benkay asciilifeform: the synthetic thc stuff is not related to bath salts. [19:39]
benkay or 'bath salts'. [19:39]
asciilifeform benkay: no actual baths involved. it appears to be the spam brand under which a thousand things are sold. [19:39]
asciilifeform and, naturally, the 'legal' crap doesn't contain delta-9 or any other thc, said substance being on the ban list [19:40]
benkay the brand i've been made aware of by a friend who once smoked three pots (!) all at once (!) is 'spyce' [19:40]
benkay important to note that just because a thing claims to be legal in the states is no guarantee of its legality or quality or anything really. [19:41]
benkay some claim it does a half-assed job. [19:41]
asciilifeform i must now confess that this is not a subject that i've any serious direct expertise in [19:41]
asciilifeform but point being, people who imagine 'hacking the legal system' tend to end up pathetic cases [19:42]
asciilifeform like the 'sovereign citizen' crackpots mp had an essay about [19:42]
asciilifeform let's sue the kgb, sure. and don't forget to include a 1700s obscure tort case in argument. etc [19:43]
mircea_popescu lol [19:48]
mircea_popescu did anyone actually sue the kgb in soviet russia ? [19:48]
asciilifeform not as such. but the occasional misfit tried to make some sort of legalistic case, to the laughter of the judges. [19:54]
asciilifeform in usa, on the other hand! [19:55]
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benkay get me outtttt [19:56]
asciilifeform 'the salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the drowning.' (russian orthodox proverb) [19:56]
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asciilifeform ('спасение утопающих дело рук самих утопающих') [19:57]
benkay what's wrong with y'all today, logs are mad short. [20:04]
mircea_popescu i had a something to say [20:05]
mircea_popescu but i ated it. [20:05]
fluffypony benkay: assbot died [20:05]
fluffypony so logs are cut off [20:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0345001 = 0.345 BTC [-] [20:05]
mircea_popescu "all 12 men to have walked on the moon were either eldest or only children" [20:05]
benkay fluffypony: y'ain't seen me log out yet, eh? my logs ain't the publogs. [20:06]
fluffypony oh true [20:07]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: my paternal grandmother is a very traditional, superstitious, short Italian woman (who cooks accordingly). she says my dad was the most successful of her 3 children because "he steal alla of tha calcium from me, he leave none for Daniele and Sonia" [20:08]
mircea_popescu ha [20:08]
asciilifeform 'successful' -> never needs dental work ? [20:09]
fluffypony asciilifeform: successful == hasn't married a drunkard and/or hasn't gone to prison [20:10]
ThickAsThieves integrated Tor support in bitcoinj - merged! o/ [20:11]
asciilifeform lol [20:11]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: ┗(°0°)┛ [20:11]
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mircea_popescu !up Dimsler [20:12]
assbot Voicing Dimsler for 30 minutes. [20:12]
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mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot Dimsler [20:12]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Dimsler: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Dimsler | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Dimsler | Rated since: Tue Oct 22 13:51:07 2013 [20:12]
mircea_popescu Dimsler : anyone in assbot's l1 trust list. [20:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0345 = 0.1725 BTC [-] [20:13]
Dimsler ohhhh [20:14]
Dimsler i get it [20:14]
benkay fluffypony, ThickAsThieves: is there an emoticon for shooting oneself in the head? [20:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0340001 = 0.34 BTC [-] [20:15]
ThickAsThieves i think so [20:15]
fluffypony I guess this one: ︻デ┳═ー (◕_◕) [20:15]
mircea_popescu nice fn-fal [20:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.034 = 0.102 BTC [-] [20:16]
fluffypony Belgian ascii art is best ascii art [20:16]
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artifexd asciilifeform: What is autosnitch? google fails to find anything relevant. [20:22]
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asciilifeform artifex: the proverbial 'upload the goods to usg every night' perl script. [20:24]
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artifexd Is that a real thing or a joke on the nsa watching/logging everything? [20:25]
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asciilifeform artifex: ask fuhrer, not me [20:27]
artifexd Does a gag order require denying such a gag order exists? [20:28]
artifexd ^ IRT http://www.zdnet.com/coinbase-denies-hack-gag-order-says-email-address-leak-poses-little-risk-to-customers-7000027945/ [20:28]
mircea_popescu artifexd it's a real thing. coindesk dumps all its data daily. [20:30]
mircea_popescu they're also insecure, and have been hacked repeatedly, [20:30]
mircea_popescu meaning any info you upload to them, such as bank acct numbers, id scans, etc, is now held by the usg and by all the hacker groups. [20:30]
artifexd What data does coindesk have? Reader's ip addresses? They're a news aggregator. [20:30]
mircea_popescu artifexd not coindesk, coinfuck the other one. [20:31]
artifexd aok [20:31]
mircea_popescu coinbase [20:31]
mircea_popescu Does a gag order require denying such a gag order exists? << usually. [20:31]
artifexd I always assume that the usg has always-on access to my bank accounts. I guess I should start assuming the same with my coinbase activities. [20:32]
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jurov http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/technology/start-ups-aim-to-conquer-space-market.html?_r=1 someone wrote about launching rpi to space? [20:34]
ozbot Log In - The New York Times [20:34]
jurov ^try changing into ?r=0 [20:34]
artifexd http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/technology/start-ups-aim-to-conquer-space-market.html?_r=0 [20:35]
jurov continuously updated space junk ftw [20:36]
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jurov i had an idea (um..okay) of rocket launch that will use energy delivered from groubd via fiber instead of fuel [20:39]
asciilifeform jurov: classical idea, 'space elevator' [20:39]
asciilifeform problem is materials strength. [20:39]
jurov as even hair fiber can carry ridiculous power and shpuld be able to carry 100km of itself [20:39]
asciilifeform jurov: calculate what 100km of... anything. weighs [20:40]
jurov could not find if anyone tried that [20:40]
jurov i did, it was under a kiolgram [20:40]
kakobrekla isnt spyder silk closest to that [20:40]
asciilifeform other nuances. calculate electric potential difference between top and bottom. [20:40]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 10**6 * (10**(-3))**2) [20:41]
gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) [20:41]
mircea_popescu no ?! [20:41]
asciilifeform 'my wire is a dielectric', you say, but to what voltage. [20:41]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 10**6 *i**2) [20:41]
gribble 1 [20:41]
fluffypony pankkake kicking ass and taking names on the forum today [20:41]
fluffypony I wonder when he'll forgive us and come back [20:41]
mircea_popescu that's the volume of 100km of 1mm squared. [20:41]
jurov glass fiber short circuit??? [20:41]
mircea_popescu not THAT bad [20:41]
kakobrekla err spiders silk [20:41]
ThickAsThieves forgive us? [20:41]
asciilifeform then, wind on cross-section of 1km * 0.1mm (or whatever thickness) [20:42]
jurov monomode glass fiber has 10um diameter [20:42]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: he's angry that we spoke about altcoins [20:42]
mircea_popescu fluffypony maybe he makes his own counterempire. [20:42]
fluffypony there was a rage-quit [20:42]
mircea_popescu jurov im aware, just making teh point. [20:42]
fluffypony lol [20:42]
kakobrekla fluffypony what was spoken about alts? [20:42]
ThickAsThieves yeah i'm lost [20:42]
jurov ;;calc 100000*3.14*(0.00001)^2 [20:43]
gribble Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. [20:43]
fluffypony kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2014#644305 [20:43]
jurov ;;calc 100000*3.14*(0.00001)**2 [20:43]
gribble 3.14e-05 [20:43]
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jurov that's about the volume of 100km monomode fiber [20:43]
fluffypony kakobrekla: the "please…" line was when he rage-quit [20:43]
asciilifeform then, pesky problem of thrust. [20:43]
ThickAsThieves nah [20:43]
ThickAsThieves i doubt he cares THAT much [20:44]
asciilifeform (ignoring, for a moment, the purpose of suspending 100km of fiber, sans payload) [20:44]
fluffypony asciilifeform: just use the Web of Thrust [20:44]
ThickAsThieves plus he was wrong [20:44]
jurov i don't want to suspend it [20:44]
ThickAsThieves just the notion of wanting altcoins to die at all says more about the notioner [20:44]
jurov just use it to deliver large part of energy to blast stuff to orvit [20:44]
jurov if not all [20:44]
jurov *orbit [20:45]
benkay more attainable within our lifetimes, jurov, is the rocket engine that uses ambient oxidizer to mach 5. [20:47]
jurov i want someone to explain me what is unattainable here, so far did not find anything. [20:47]
mircea_popescu i doubt he cares THAT much << i can't imagine either. [20:47]
mircea_popescu jurov ever calculated the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ? [20:48]
mircea_popescu (if medium goes harmonic) [20:48]
benkay ;;google tacoma narrows video [20:49]
gribble Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse "Gallopin' Gertie" - YouTube: ; Tacoma Narrows Bridge (1940) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; HowStuffWorks "Understanding: Tacoma Narrows Bridge": [20:49]
jurov benkay: it still must carry half of the fuel [20:49]
benkay effective iSP is much greater than that of tradiitonal rockets, even exotics like RFNO which have been abandoned due to engineering concerns. [20:50]
benkay bonuses in preheating the h2 by cooling incoming air [20:50]
jurov mircea_popescu: since the fiber is very light, major factor will be air drag (should be minimal in case first 100km of takeoff is vertical takeoff) [20:50]
benkay these things stack. [20:51]
jurov and acceleration [20:51]
mircea_popescu nono. [20:51]
mircea_popescu shear. [20:51]
jurov caused by? [20:51]
mircea_popescu caused by the medium going harmonic. [20:52]
mircea_popescu let me tell you a story from my youth. [20:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48200001 BTC [-] [20:52]
mircea_popescu when i was younger i used to fuck this young opera singer chick. she did this trick whereby she'd sing into a glas [20:52]
mircea_popescu and the glass popped [20:53]
mircea_popescu great ice breaker at parties. [20:53]
mircea_popescu at any arbitrary point 100km worth of air can decide to sing traviata into your fiber and there's jack shit you can do about it. [20:54]
jurov neds to be simulated/computed. but i hope for such thin fiber, the air is viscouous enough so that it will dampen it [20:55]
mircea_popescu so do the math. calculate the the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ? [20:56]
jurov like, you can't play guitar with silk threads [20:56]
artifexd Reduce the quality control on the fiber productions in order to introduce random variations in the fiber thickness and thus harmonic frequencies. [20:56]
mircea_popescu artifexd this leads you to the problem of the rope. do you know the problem of the rope ? [20:56]
artifexd No [20:56]
jurov don't forget the length (and harmonic freq) will change dramamtically over time [20:56]
mircea_popescu do you know what was the first industrial product, and the one thing that started the industrial revolution ? [20:56]
artifexd Rope? [20:57]
mircea_popescu jurov that doesn't help you. air isn't my gf. [20:57]
mircea_popescu artifexd exactamundo. [20:57]
mircea_popescu it works like this : the quality of the rope (ie, its uniformity) establishes the longest length of rope that can be operated credibly [20:57]
mircea_popescu as a % chance it breaks. [20:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06638802 = 0.3319 BTC [-] {3} [20:57]
mircea_popescu that longest length of rope valueestablishes the largest ship you can build, i nthe age of sail [20:57]
mircea_popescu and since the ships use cannons, the larger ship always wins. [20:58]
mircea_popescu and so, for about a century, making better rope was more important for each country than making better ipads is today. [20:58]
mircea_popescu the first serious capitalist building was... a rope factory. [20:58]
mircea_popescu so no, making it resistent to harmonics by making it shittier just means it'll be shittier. [20:59]
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artifexd I would think that the minimum diameter (given similar materials) would determine the breaking point, not whether the diameter of this cross section is the same as the cross section 100 ft away. [21:00]
mircea_popescu but you need to have it random. [21:00]
artifexd Within limits [21:00]
mircea_popescu otherwise your harmonics problem simply reduces to the new limits [21:00]
asciilifeform the only elevator scheme described to date, afaik, that stands a chance of working, is... 'tower of babel.' [21:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform whic is a cone. [21:01]
artifexd Truly random would mean that at some point the diameter would be 0. [21:01]
jurov but i insist. make your hair taut [21:01]
jurov and try to play it [21:01]
artifexd And in others it would be 100km across. [21:01]
mircea_popescu jurov arbitrary length. [21:01]
mircea_popescu that means i pick the length, not you [21:01]
mircea_popescu artifexd that's excessive, but a cone works well to resolve this problem. [21:02]
mircea_popescu course, that cone has to have a basis [21:02]
jurov yes arbitrary length. i'm gertain you have chick to pull it off. [21:02]
asciilifeform (note what shape the world's talles buildings were prior to structural steel.) [21:02]
jurov it will *not* oscillate because the air is viscouous and the fiber too light [21:02]
mircea_popescu the weight of the fiber doesn't really have much to do with it [21:02]
jurov it does. lightweight fiber gets dampened more than heavier rope [21:03]
jurov as i computed above, whole fiber will weight only grams. [21:04]
jurov you are telling me something that has few grams and 100km will be shaking violently in air? [21:05]
asciilifeform let's imagine unbreakable fiber, spherical horse. what's on the other end? [21:06]
asciilifeform i.e. how are you to convert the light into usable thrust. [21:06]
jurov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam-powered_propulsion [21:07]
ozbot Beam-powered propulsion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:07]
jurov when you use fiber instead of laser, receiver should be much simpler [21:08]
jurov and again, i'm not sure the pull stress on fiber will end up so big. fiber is already in use for to communicate with mother ship [21:09]
jurov *for missiles [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.03849758 = 0.1925 BTC [-] {4} [21:09]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/7lioK2H.jpg [21:10]
fluffypony ^^ ITT [21:10]
punkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_lake [21:11]
ozbot Wine lake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:11]
mircea_popescu jurov the weight has very little to do with oscillation. [21:13]
mircea_popescu the only place where it'd matter would be if the part of wire with high mommentum was lighter than the parts surrounding it. this isn't going to happen. [21:13]
mircea_popescu missiles are only in air a few seconds. [21:14]
mircea_popescu and missiles fail at an impressive rate for "no reason". [21:14]
jurov this will be too [21:14]
jurov i'm *not* talking about suspended operation [21:14]
mircea_popescu well then i don't follow. [21:15]
jurov the fiber is just a means to supply energy to the thruster [21:15]
jurov after 100km or whatever it will be snapped off [21:16]
jurov to save fuel [21:16]
mircea_popescu uh [21:16]
mircea_popescu you have any idea how slow ion/beam engines move ? [21:16]
benkay mircea_popescu: it's for superheating a real ejection mass [21:16]
mircea_popescu ... [21:17]
jurov maybe it can be done in such way it will have enough velocity to switch to ion [21:17]
mircea_popescu is this some sort of insider joke im not privy to ? [21:17]
mircea_popescu what the fuck, how many lux are needed to boil a mol of water ? [21:17]
jurov but even if it can replace only 30% energy that is otherwise needed to get by burning fuel [21:17]
jurov the saving would be disproportionally big [21:18]
benkay oh but mp you can do fun things with rectifying the photons and making of the hotness [21:18]
mircea_popescu well ok, but still! [21:19]
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benkay or if you're doing something like a phased microwave array around the planet, coating the bottom of the vehicle with a microwave rectifier [21:19]
mircea_popescu eh just make a pokemon drag it. [21:19]
benkay madness i tell ya [21:19]
mircea_popescu "fairies did it" [21:19]
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jurov hmm I found 4.0 MW/cm-2 fiber power density [21:20]
mircea_popescu well your fiber is mircometer. [21:21]
jurov i see, trying to convert properly [21:21]
mircea_popescu and that 4mw figure must be some sort of maximal for shorter distances, i can't imagine putting 4mw through 100km of fiber. [21:22]
artifexd Last ATC trade was at 224 satoshis. BingoBoingo pushing up the price? [21:22]
jurov ;;calc (4e6*1e6*10000)*(0.00001*0.00001) [21:23]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [21:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0382786 = 0.5742 BTC [-] {2} [21:23]
mike_c artifexd: nethash is through the roof too. altcoin is just booming in general. [21:23]
jurov the result is 4e6 watts? maybe i have an error [21:24]
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jurov i an't making it in foreseeable time anyway. maybe someone does more thorough calc and writes it up for google to find [21:28]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [21:34]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 441.54, Best ask: 443.71, Bid-ask spread: 2.17000, Last trade: 443.71, 24 hour volume: 7045.95104117, 24 hour low: 439.05, 24 hour high: 469.58, 24 hour vwap: 452.107413733 [21:34]
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mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/#b45 [21:35]
ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June [21:35]
mircea_popescu check out the dice better [21:35]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 200 @ 0.0008357 = 0.1671 BTC [-] {2} [21:41]
ThickAsThieves btw someone here recommend i watch the Black Mirror, turns out I already saw it, and had been trying to remember it for a while cuz i liked episode 2 [21:41]
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benkay Naphex: what's your exchange again? [21:45]
benkay nm [21:46]
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mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmP2CYUCAAAgLHr.jpg:large [21:47]
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Naphex ;o [21:48]
Naphex back [21:48]
Naphex benkay: it's https://www.btcxchange.ro / why - sup? [21:55]
benkay locals are asking about where to trade these days [21:55]
Naphex ah [21:56]
benkay Naphex: any plans for a gpg auth? [21:56]
Naphex yep [21:57]
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Naphex already started work on implementing gpg otp in the validation server [21:57]
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benkay lurvely [21:57]
Naphex probably in a few weeks, is going to be up [21:57]
benkay am i going to have to give you an email as well? [21:57]
Naphex yeah - email is bound in. but atleast with gpg auth you get rid of verification emails [21:58]
benkay my ideal login flow is to just provide you a key [21:58]
Naphex with gpg auth the flow is going to be username/pass -> gpg otp -> logged in [21:58]
Naphex as well as gpg otp for withdrawals [21:59]
Naphex registration is just username /password /email [21:59]
Naphex gpg otp will be set up after in security [21:59]
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benkay i imagine the u/p requirement is baked in pretty hard by your framework? [22:01]
Naphex not really, just in the frontend [22:01]
Naphex backend is just uuid / secret + otp choice (default email otp without yubi and soon gpg) [22:02]
Naphex but its baked in into frontend so .. :p [22:02]
benkay hmmmmmmm. [22:02]
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decimation why can't you replace the username/password pair with a hash of the public key? [22:05]
Naphex you can do it yourself if you set up an api key [22:07]
Naphex but the website is meant too ease up stuff for regular folks [22:07]
Naphex and some presentation [22:07]
Naphex https://api.btcxchange.ro/ - api [22:07]
Naphex you set up an API key and you can just use that [22:07]
benkay rad [22:08]
Naphex withdrawals are blocked from the API atm, so withdrawals only from frontend [22:09]
Naphex OHCL-V Ticker Plant and Payments API+Widgets coming soon [22:15]
Naphex ohlc even;] [22:18]
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decimation asciilifeform: yeah the AN-225 is neat but only one built I think. The An-124 is more closely competitive with the C-5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-124 (call these guys if you need one http://www.poletairlines.com/) It would be ideal for porting your submarine from one ocean to another. [22:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72159 @ 0.00094597 = 68.2602 BTC [+] {4} [22:38]
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benkay Naphex: but can I do all my API calls encrypted to your pubkey? [22:39]
benkay only halfway joking. but srsly, I want an MPEx interface to my exchange. [22:40]
mircea_popescu mpex everything! [22:40]
jurov benkay if you really do, i'm having a few serious words with you then [22:41]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu: speaking of, when are we expecting mpif? [22:41]
mircea_popescu today ? :D [22:41]
fluffypony bitcoinpete: ¡ ola ! [22:41]
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bitcoinpete hey fluffypony [22:42]
bitcoinpete i saw that i brought in some new blood yesterday :) [22:43]
benkay jurov: all i mean is that i want to interact with anything btc-related with encrypted messages, and ssl does not count. [22:43]
fluffypony bitcoinpete: yeah, wd [22:44]
jurov oh okay. because i got goosebumps that you want it complete with quoted integers, eventually-consistent statements and whatnot [22:44]
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jurov oh and i forgot "you know what you did" balance changes [22:46]
jurov but since i am not providing api for coinbr, i shall prolly shut up [22:48]
mike_c not worth the hassle? [22:48]
mircea_popescu this is haet. [22:48]
jurov yours truly [22:51]
fluffypony jurov: you must fix the copyright at the bottom of the site btw [22:51]
fluffypony needs more 2014 [22:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06884761 = 1.377 BTC [+] [22:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06884761 = 0.6885 BTC [+] [22:53]
jurov okay [22:54]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/bFPBAfM.jpg [22:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.06884761 = 7.9175 BTC [+] [22:54]
bitcoinpete http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#.U11iG1za78s [23:01]
ozbot The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Lets Talk Bitcoin [23:01]
bitcoinpete adam levine offered to re-publish my article on ltb's blog [23:02]
fluffypony http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/244att/bitcoin_banned_for_alcohol_sales_in_state_of_ohio/ [23:03]
ozbot Bitcoin Banned for Alcohol Sales in State of Ohio : Bitcoin [23:03]
fluffypony On Friday, the Ohio Department of Public Safety ruled that "Bitcoin cannot be accepted as payment for alcohol in the State of Ohio." [23:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18608 @ 0.00094788 = 17.6382 BTC [+] [23:16]
bitcoinpete nice fluffypony: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#comment-1358111132 [23:17]
fluffypony bitcoinpete: yeah that dude's a moron [23:18]
bitcoinpete lol [23:18]
bitcoinpete it's all about the feelingz [23:19]
bitcoinpete just like it's all about the words [23:19]
fluffypony yeah [23:20]
fluffypony awwww yisss....new vanity address finished [23:20]
fluffypony 1spagniPwKD4Zd8rZvPNFenExLTNb7aai [23:20]
bitcoinpete sweet [23:20]
bitcoinpete i sent levine an address and he posted his own address anyways [23:21]
bitcoinpete like, why ask? [23:21]
fluffypony lol! [23:21]
fluffypony "please tip the author...who wasn't me..." [23:21]
bitcoinpete i swear…ish [23:22]
kakobrekla yeah jurov why no api [23:24]
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cazalla bitcoinpete: looks like you might get those ltbcoins afterall [23:24]
bitcoinpete cazalla: oh fuck me [23:25]
bitcoinpete i'd rather air miles [23:25]
bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/26/exodus-from-egypt/ < [23:25]
ozbot Exodus From Egypt | When Bitcoin Met Pete [23:25]
fluffypony asseters [23:31]
fluffypony lol [23:31]
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mircea_popescu shouldn't it be assetteers ? [23:34]
mircea_popescu maybe our country shall be called Assetteechutts. [23:35]
bitcoinpete but there's more than 3 of us [23:35]
bitcoinpete or assabynia [23:35]
bitcoinpete we're a bunch of molassetters [23:36]
bitcoinpete http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ < [23:36]
ozbot BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD [23:36]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmQG3cbCQAAWCJ8.png:large [23:49]
mircea_popescu not a bad visual, seeing how little reddit comprehends of numbers [23:49]
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benkay i've always used assettes [23:54]
fluffypony wow Yahoo's actually marginally profitable still [23:54]
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fluffypony when you look at that visual MS and Apple are the kings in terms of turning a profit, Google to a lesser degree [23:55]
benkay bitcoinpete u gon make me cry b [23:56]
bitcoinpete benkay: let them out, it's part of the healing process [23:57]
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dub benkay: you should fix you comments section [23:58]
mircea_popescu fluffypony incredible huh [23:59]
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