Forum logs for 22 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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felipelalli I just wrote an article about my short experience in Qntra.net / #bitcoin-assets https://yeppudaproductions.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/qntra-net-a-toca-do-coelho/ [00:24]
assbot Qntra.net: a toca do coelho | Yeppuda Productions ... ( http://bit.ly/1zxLfIz ) [00:24]
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mircea_popescu !up benjamindees [00:38]
-assbot- You voiced benjamindees for 30 minutes. [00:38]
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BingoBoingo http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/21/yes-i-was-a-racist-and-im-mentally-ill-shanley-kane-in-shocking-social-media-meltdown/ [00:38]
assbot 'Yes, I was a racist' admits Shanley Kane - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiN3Fi ) [00:38]
kakobrekla translated as "gang of noise" lol [00:39]
mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/2Y9D905 << is this like... woodcollector, the "ceo" version ? ? [00:39]
assbot dpaste: 2Y9D905 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiNmjp ) [00:39]
mircea_popescu ceocollector [00:39]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol. [00:40]
asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2015/01/isc-biowar-kr-cn.pdf (scan) << usg use of bioweapons in kr war. detailed study. [00:41]
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BingoBoingo kakobrekla: But means signal to noise. I assume Mike Hearn forked Google Translate too. [00:41]
mircea_popescu lol [00:42]
kakobrekla i like the gang of noise. [00:42]
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decimation lulzy gavin conversation [00:43]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i don't get it. why are we thinking some ex-gf of some failed gofundme capitalist is famous or something ? [00:43]
felipelalli "gang of noise" makes any sense in English? [00:43]
mircea_popescu let her grow an ass like kim, make pics and come back. [00:44]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: She's the one who said something to the effect of Linux community needing to grow the balls to expel Linus or some shit. [00:44]
mircea_popescu and nobody cared. [00:45]
kakobrekla felipelalli well its a decent description of things. the name and the article. most people even fail to assemble that. [00:45]
nubbins` BingoBoingo was out all night [00:45]
nubbins` didja see where he called a guy a fag? [00:45]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Like a cigarette? [00:45]
nubbins` like a homosexual male [00:45]
felipelalli kakobrekla: Not sure if it is a compliment, but thank you! [00:46]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, like ChangeTip she too recieved venture capital for a blog. [00:46]
kakobrekla if it does not contain "fuck you" its a compliment. [00:46]
mircea_popescu lmao [00:47]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Don't higher compliments on this channel normally contain "fuck you"? [00:47]
mircea_popescu wenture capital for a BLOG ?!?! [00:47]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Indeed. [00:47]
mircea_popescu what exactly, to pay the blogspot hosting bill ? [00:47]
kakobrekla yes but those are different fucks. [00:47]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: To pay the, worked for a cloud bullshit company, violated the non-compete, and needed merit washed. [00:48]
mircea_popescu these fucking imbecile children of their imbecile mothers already. oh, college is too hard for you ? let's change the admission criteria! you wanna start a business but you're as dumb as fuckinmg rocks ? that's ok, start a blog instead. you wanna be a hacker too ? fine, fine, just edit some pronouns in other people's githubs. [00:48]
felipelalli kakobrekla: lol. [00:48]
mircea_popescu i have no fucking idea why anyone'd put up with it for five minutes. [00:48]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: And this is why I never got the appeal of 4chan except as distilled in retrospectives though Encyclopedia Dramatica [00:49]
mircea_popescu i thought ed mostly did lj [00:49]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Only at the start. Deviating so far from LJ is why it had a hardfork crisis the coredevs lost. [00:50]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The founding of the funded blawg http://blog.ameliagreenhall.com/post/what-it-was-like-to-co-found-model-view-culture-with-shanley-kane [00:50]
assbot   Amelia Greenhall — What it was like to co-found Model View Culture with Shanley Kane ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiQCeA ) [00:50]
mats a lol. [00:50]
mircea_popescu ah [00:50]
mircea_popescu i thought the "coredevs" left because the guy grew up and the girl grew fat [00:51]
mircea_popescu well, she was always fat, but, whatever. [00:51]
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BingoBoingo The girl was always fat, and weev was in jail. Girl fatlogiced a family and worksafe site then shuttered ED. The id didn't like that. [00:51]
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nubbins` "everyone else is a goat the same age and gender as me" [00:52]
nubbins` mp i think that is actually burned into my brain now [00:52]
mircea_popescu anyway, so this entire "abuse", "racism" whatever libertard bullshit / paralegal paralogistic construction is finally reaching that necessary point in its evolution where it mostly consumes itself. [00:53]
mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah well... [00:53]
decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986212 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986214 << did 'distinction' strike anyone else as rather arbitrary? [00:53]
assbot Logged on 21-01-2015 18:11:24; gavinandresen: a soft fork means miners must upgrade, or their blocks will be rejected. [00:53]
assbot Logged on 21-01-2015 18:11:39; gavinandresen: a hard fork means everybody running a full node must upgrade, or they will be on a different chain [00:53]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: This is why it is better to be a Ram than a goat. Sure, techinally you are sheep, but who can oppose you when you are angry? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1fUzkqwbQ [00:53]
assbot Angry Ram takes on a 6 ton digger - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiRqQP ) [00:53]
mircea_popescu decimation how you mean ? [00:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: for something consuming itself, it's astonishingly alive and kicking. [00:54]
decimation To my way of thinking, either the protocol is broken or it isn't [00:55]
decimation whether they want to create it or not, there is a spec [00:55]
mircea_popescu decimation contrary to what superficially is being claimed, bitcoin really consists of two consensuses. [00:55]
mircea_popescu one is the consensus that allows for new blocks to be mined. [00:55]
mircea_popescu the other is the consensus that allows for transactions to be accepted as valid. [00:55]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's more of a forest fire, and will burn until there is nothing to burn. [00:55]
mircea_popescu these two have a lot of overlap, of course. [00:55]
asciilifeform or until someone puts it out. [00:55]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Ourobourus eating itself as of this year. New in the public discussions of that crowd [00:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i disagree, myself. [00:56]
decimation Labeling one consensus as 'hard' and another as 'soft' doesn't seem to be a good use of language [00:56]
mircea_popescu a fire affects everything, related or not. this is more like cancer : it affects the victim, but not the chasir he sits on or the op fucking them in the ass. [00:56]
mircea_popescu decimation that is happenstance, arriving from the very haphazard manner in which abstraction works out of the group of power rangers [00:57]
mircea_popescu they don't proceed from an in depth understanding of the thing, but merely by and by, as experience allows. [00:57]
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mircea_popescu this worm's progress made them use those words because apparently one is more of a bitch than the other. [00:57]
asciilifeform !s the camel has two humps [00:57]
assbot 5 results for 'the camel has two humps' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+camel+has+two+humps [00:57]
decimation yes, that much is obvious: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-01-2015#985357 [00:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so basically, im saying "this certain part of the us is now so infested, the cancer is mostly eating other cancer" [00:58]
assbot Logged on 21-01-2015 02:59:39; Luke-Jr: I think the db_config patch may explain why it works, but could be potentially inadequate for the current consensus rules [00:58]
mircea_popescu decimation Luke-Jr generally pretends that things he doesn't like don't actually exist. this is the case in pretty much every line he utters, crafted to support his particular mental issues. [00:59]
mircea_popescu in this case, he conveniently neglects the point that there is no such thing as CURRENT consensus, in any way distinct from trhe actual consensus [00:59]
mircea_popescu as verified by a 5.x node [00:59]
BingoBoingo decimation Luke-Jr generally pretends that things he doesn't like don't actually exist. this is the case in pretty much every line he utters, crafted to support his particular mental issues. << Things like Popes [01:00]
mircea_popescu now, he'd like for it to be the case, obviously, because that'd imply that the "Work" the power rangers have been doing for the past year is worth more than zero, which is a proposition he holds dear for obvious reasons. [01:00]
BingoBoingo In much the same way he'd like a miner on a bench at BFL to have been a miner on his testing bench [01:01]
mircea_popescu right. [01:01]
decimation to be fair, he did express some level of interest in the foundation project. perhaps he knows what is really true in his hindbrain [01:02]
mircea_popescu anyway, i suppose it comes as one of those "nobody could have predicted" things to these people that the entire pile of crap they've been amassing over the years can and for that matter likely will simply be thrown out and forgotten. [01:02]
mircea_popescu a naive stance, but then again neckbeards aren't exactly known for worldliness. [01:03]
BingoBoingo decimation: Probably to an extent. Luke-Jr has a rather sort of logical structure organizing his schtick which seems self consistent while entirely problematic. [01:03]
mircea_popescu "So his mom cut him off from wiping his ass for him when he turned 18 and now he thinks the ladies owe him blowjobs. I hope bitcoin collapses just to fuck this guy." [01:04]
mircea_popescu apparently reddit really likes me, in unrelated news. [01:04]
* BingoBoingo has been considering using one of those "Edgerouter Lites" as a desktop system. [01:04]
BingoBoingo lol [01:05]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Where was this? [01:05]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughLibertarianSpam/comments/2rzhvq/bitcoin_thought_leader_takes_a_moment_to/cnmwalf << something that apparently exists. [01:05]
BingoBoingo Ah [01:07]
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decimation asciilifeform: did you use libusb-0.1 or -1.0 to develop cardano? or are you just using the kernel mass storage driver? [01:17]
mircea_popescu http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=6783079&cid=48872369 [01:18]
assbot Silk Road 2.0 Deputy Arrested - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0xzUa ) [01:18]
mircea_popescu apparently some people get it. [01:18]
BingoBoingo The tragedy is I have an assload of modpoints atm, but can't spend them on this thread because I had to highlight the link sniping. [01:19]
mircea_popescu lol [01:21]
mircea_popescu i have nfi what all that is, but it sounds funny. [01:21]
BingoBoingo http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=6783079&cid=48872465 [01:22]
assbot Silk Road 2.0 Deputy Arrested - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0y3tF ) [01:22]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Basically slashdot has "votes" but they get allotted at unpredicatable time intervals and expire. [01:23]
mircea_popescu uh [01:23]
mircea_popescu so the only way spamming it works is statistically ? gee. [01:23]
BingoBoingo Pretty much. [01:23]
BingoBoingo Pretty sure that contributed to our good /. run with pankkake [01:23]
mircea_popescu what was that again ? [01:24]
BingoBoingo but for story selection everything goes through the annoited editors anyway which is why some altcoin got two stories on consecutive days. [01:24]
BingoBoingo what was that again ? << That time my personal blog was featured on /. thrice with no resistance. [01:25]
mircea_popescu aha [01:25]
BingoBoingo And featured thrice in 4 months [01:26]
BingoBoingo The first time was exactly one year ago +/- 5 days [01:26]
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BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2t7nsb/i_grew_a_neckbeard_reading_this_bitcoin/cnwoeat [01:42]
assbot ButterNubber comments on I grew a neckbeard reading this "Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignity" (note: Link doesn't go to the actual Bitcoin Foundation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0ArAA ) [01:42]
ben_vulpes oh, reddit discovered the fundation? [01:43]
mircea_popescu you're famous nao. [01:43]
mircea_popescu dun fuck it up. [01:43]
ben_vulpes i'm still waiting for robert viragh to call my mother and tell her i hang out with nasty people on the internets [01:44]
mircea_popescu why your mother specifically? [01:44]
ben_vulpes because that's what he threatened to do! [01:44]
mircea_popescu lolwut [01:44]
ben_vulpes not even kidding [01:44]
mircea_popescu i guess hungarians have jew-close relationships with their mothers / [01:44]
mircea_popescu no wonder highest suicide rate in teh werld. [01:45]
ben_vulpes want to hear something else lispily amusing? [01:45]
mircea_popescu ok ? [01:45]
ben_vulpes stumpwm (a cl window manager) handles multiple monitors better than OS X. [01:45]
mircea_popescu i wasn't thinking os x is particularly good at any task. [01:46]
ben_vulpes "just works" is dead. has been for like 3 revisions now, but the rest of the world is finally waking up to it. [01:46]
mircea_popescu humor comes from contradictiyon [01:46]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Ever play with plan9 or its forks/distros? [01:46]
mircea_popescu "Table 'bitcoin.smf_boards' doesn't exist" [01:46]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: nah, it was great for the adobe suite [01:46]
decimation usg's failure to properly implement fire department radio encryption (not that it is needed) could have killed people http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/New-Radio-Encryption-May-Have-Stymied-Communication-in-Metro-Incident-289075111.html [01:46]
assbot New Radio Encryption May Have Stymied Communication in Metro Incident, Sources Say | NBC4 Washington ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0B3pO ) [01:46]
ben_vulpes basically purpose built for them [01:46]
mircea_popescu did tardstalk just move over the new design ? [01:46]
mircea_popescu the one a guy in sf made for $500k [01:46]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: not i, no. [01:46]
ben_vulpes my next operating system dabblings are going to be in bsds and gentoo [01:47]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ^ scoop for you [01:47]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: If they did, they haven't done it well [01:47]
mircea_popescu bitcointalk died ? [01:47]
decimation ben_vulpes: re: osx << it's been going downhill ever since 10.6 [01:47]
mircea_popescu thanks god that italian dude did the cached version eh. [01:47]
mats all this gloom about forest fires makes me nervous, i am a mere vassal of USG with insufficient rocket fuel [01:47]
ben_vulpes decimation, yeah, that's the one. [01:48]
ben_vulpes i've yet to eat 10.10. [01:48]
ben_vulpes my time will come, i'm sure [01:48]
decimation I've been cursed with supporting osx at the office to some degree [01:48]
decimation ever try to make it actually work with nfs reliably? [01:48]
ben_vulpes their proprietary spreadsheet program will only save documents compatible with the version of itself that runs on 10.10 [01:48]
mircea_popescu anyone remember who was the bitcointa.lk sysadmin ? i recall he was here. [01:48]
BingoBoingo c something or other [01:49]
* punkman wonders if bitcointalk will break all the old links after upgrade [01:49]
decimation mats: in the case of the link above, people died waiting for 'rescue' after a metro train became 'stuck' near some kind of fire [01:49]
mircea_popescu cedivad ty. [01:49]
mircea_popescu ;;seen cedivad [01:49]
gribble cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 50 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that. [01:49]
cardigm CheckDavid chetty chiral coderwill copumpkin CoraCrisT Cory CryptoGoon Crypton CryptOprah [01:49]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell cedivad hey, now that bitcointalk.org is gone, could a full dump of bitcointa.lk be had for archival purposes ? [01:50]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:50]
ben_vulpes ;;rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin innumerable times and would like to continue. [01:51]
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ben_vulpes ;;rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue. [01:51]
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ben_vulpes !rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue. [01:52]
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mircea_popescu anywya, ima be off now, all teh people wanting to pretend like you are talking in b-a but not really, you got at least six hours. [01:53]
ben_vulpes zing [01:53]
BingoBoingo scoopbot: fetch [01:53]
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kakobrekla now you can selfvoiceyourself [14:09]
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mircea_popescu !rated sturles [14:09]
assbot You rated user sturles on 29-Oct-2011, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: coupla deals over pp. [14:09]
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mircea_popescu !rate sturles 4 I was hesitant to replace a 2011 rating before, however : Sturles is and has since the beginning been a pillar of the community. [14:11]
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assbot Successfully updated the rating for sturles from 2 to 4 with note: I was hesitant to replace a 2011 rating before, however : Sturles is and has since the beginning been a pillar of the community. [14:11]
kakobrekla actually, here is the thing. if you just !rate over existing rating, the old date should stay. if you !unrate and !rate, it will put up a new one. [14:11]
kakobrekla idk if gribble works that way but iirc i made that call here [14:12]
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kakobrekla !gettrust mircea_popescu sturles [14:12]
assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user sturles: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 39 via 22 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/sturles | http://w.b-a.link/user/sturles [14:12]
Apocalyptic gribble just overwrites the rating date everytime [14:13]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla you mean the date ? yes i know. [14:13]
mircea_popescu but wasn't the case pre january. [14:13]
kakobrekla [note] => I was hesitant to replace a 2011 rating before, however : Sturles is and has since the beginning been a pillar of the community. [14:13]
kakobrekla [since] => 29-Oct-2011 [14:13]
kakobrekla date remains. [14:13]
mircea_popescu yup. [14:13]
kakobrekla just thought date is worth something and shouldnt be destroyed [14:14]
mircea_popescu yup. good call. [14:14]
mircea_popescu the fact that !unrate !rate cycle wipes it, but simple !rate update doesn't is actually the best of both worlds. [14:15]
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mircea_popescu decimation: punkman: that's 2-3 billion signups <<< and yet, in spite of that claim (probably unsubstantiated, as all of these, but certainly more defensible in VC terms than anyone else's), g+ isn't worht anything. [14:20]
mircea_popescu if there's a better example as to why the "grow big fast" so-called strategy doiesn't work, here it is. google's own g+ is not worth naything in spite of 3bn users. [14:21]
mircea_popescu that watsapp no users claimed as however many seemed to be worth something when fb paid for them is no support of the theory. that g+ isn't worth anything IS counterproof. [14:21]
mircea_popescu because that's how proof works : that you didn't break into any houses all through the day of the 29th doesn't help you in court. that you did on the 25th, sinks you. [14:22]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: well santa clause is allowed to BNE on the 25th me thoughts [14:24]
thestringpuller claus* [14:24]
thestringpuller maybe the entire point of G+ is to prove Facebook isn't worth anything? [14:25]
mircea_popescu nah, he only enters. [14:25]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller yes, actually, in a backwards sort of way it's exactly that. google can't afford to have zuck pretend like oh, "we're better than google". so if he tries they can go "heh, we're fb plus other things". [14:25]
mircea_popescu strategy. [14:25]
thestringpuller if that strategy succeeds, the bubble that is facebook maybe unprecedented upon collapse. [14:26]
mircea_popescu all bubbles are really the same size. [14:27]
mircea_popescu their nominal monetary value is not important. [14:27]
thestringpuller this is good point, the idiots will be left holding the bag. [14:27]
thestringpuller as is always the case [14:27]
thestringpuller look at cnet d00d [14:28]
mircea_popescu moreover, there's a maximal value of a bubble, when it pops. this is driven by the headcount and so forth, nothing else. [14:28]
mircea_popescu albania's bubble was like, 9x% of maximum. russia's a few years earlier, more like 60%ish. romania's a good 80% [14:28]
punkman http://venturebeat.com/2015/01/21/man-sold-facebook-ipo-shares-gets-46-months-in-the-federal-slammer/ [14:28]
mircea_popescu and on and on. [14:28]
assbot Man 'sold' Facebook IPO shares, gets 46 months in the federal slammer | VentureBeat | Business | by Daniel Terdiman ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cj3xge ) [14:28]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: in a sense bubles have asymptotes? [14:29]
mircea_popescu quite. [14:29]
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mircea_popescu not "in a sense". in all senses. [14:29]
thestringpuller just making sure I understand the concept. [14:30]
mircea_popescu bubbles are built not out of money but out of dreams, hopes and assorted verbiage. which is why money is such an approximative approach to attack them. [14:30]
mircea_popescu queue newton's despair. [14:30]
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mircea_popescu in principle, some pacific islanders with their six acres of unarable land and fifty coconuts can make a bubble just as well as new york can. [14:31]
mircea_popescu and when it pops, it will be JUST AS destructive to economy & society, according to how close to the absolute maximum it got. [14:31]
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thestringpuller yea. not many people are going to "front" the pacific islanders dreams with drugs, sex and rock & roll in the same way US-ians do with Sillycon Valley [14:32]
mircea_popescu so you think. [14:32]
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mircea_popescu but in fact, sex, drugs and rock and roll are a permanence in human history. [14:32]
thestringpuller or at least I look at a bubble as someone fronting someone something [14:32]
thestringpuller be it ferarri's, hookers, blow, etc. [14:33]
mircea_popescu yeah. but the something in question chiefly is "social and economic preeminence" [14:33]
mircea_popescu it's not anything concrete. [14:33]
thestringpuller it can be "something" concrete like say a house. [14:33]
thestringpuller bought with vc money that will never be repaid [14:33]
mircea_popescu only if the something concrete like say a house is also something abstract like the meaning of a house. [14:33]
thestringpuller given to a business that burns it all in the form of salaries [14:33]
mircea_popescu bubbles are built out of signifiers not out of significates. [14:34]
thestringpuller Could you elaborate a bit? [14:34]
mircea_popescu these are terms of art, you go read up on language theoree :) [14:34]
thestringpuller i iz bad @ wordz [14:34]
thestringpuller thiz is why I liten to hip hop [14:35]
thestringpuller i understand "Get money", but "build wealth" not so much. [14:35]
mircea_popescu http://www.revue-texto.net/Saussure/Saussure.html << can start with old man s. [14:36]
assbot Saussure ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cj4O77 ) [14:36]
thestringpuller oooh. it's in french. [14:36]
thestringpuller <3 [14:36]
mircea_popescu ironically, in spite of pierce's much more factually sensible theory, somehow saussure's seems more useful in practice. [14:37]
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scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/drones-revolutionize-cross-border-drug-shipment/ [14:44]
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mircea_popescu http://antilop.cc/sr/img/mrmike_tips_tricks.png << this is a pretty decent indication of what "drivinbg adoption" means. [14:48]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0ESLD ) [14:48]
mircea_popescu having people who aren't really intellectually capable to handle email involved in bitcoin ? why ? "because they're people too" ? no, they're not people too. they're cattle too. [14:49]
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mircea_popescu and this only speaks to whitey, people who have somehow fallen through the cracks of a lentghy history of literacy. [14:49]
mircea_popescu driving adoption in africa and central asia, god help you. [14:49]
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pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/22/central-banks-have-no-more-control-over-their-economies-than-gnats-have-over-elephants/ [14:53]
assbot Central banks have no more control over their economies than gnats have over elephants. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cj6Q72 ) [14:53]
mircea_popescu well... if not yet then soon enough. [14:54]
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chetty so on this mornings glenn beck show he went on at some length about how people would be turning to bitcoin as a way to protect idenity from all the hacking, he has big audience ..and he didnt say anything that was actually stuipd, for a change [14:55]
mircea_popescu does he have recordings online ? [14:56]
punkman mircea_popescu: driving adoption in africa and central asia, god help you. < imagining asian version of tips from husband now, scary [14:56]
mircea_popescu punkman right ? it's just... dude we did so very much to fuck up africa already [14:56]
mircea_popescu now this, too ? [14:56]
mircea_popescu can't they just get a break ? [14:56]
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BingoBoingo chetty: Lizard Hitler doesn't need him to say anything stupid on Bitcoin. Other people will tell his audience stupid things and reasonable things abot Bitcoin might seem sstupid to other uninitiated people via naive association with him. [14:56]
chetty yes the blaze radio posts podcasts of all their shows [14:56]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo wasn't this the guy that did a lot of gold and guns advertising, and pretty much sounds like a b-a alumni ? [14:57]
chetty yeah if he could get off the god wagon he would make a lot of sense actually [14:57]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: To an extent. His relationship with particular gold vendors though apes Keiser's relationship with Aurora coin though. The "pay premium for particular coins" sort of scam [14:58]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah it smelled funny that bit but i never really looked into it. [14:58]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: "collectible" gold coins instead of... "Fuck you this is gold" scam. [14:59]
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mircea_popescu chetty ironically ppl like danielpbarron are doing fine. i dunno that one's religious belief is an impediment. course this may really be a religion vs theology thing. [14:59]
chetty well in fairness collectible gold is what FDR didnt get [15:00]
mircea_popescu chetty yeah but in fdr's time the situation was, weak govenrment and strong population. today it's exactly the opposite. [15:01]
mircea_popescu kinda like trying to guess what parts will stay dry after a flood. hard job. [15:01]
chetty indeed, but the floods a comin for sure [15:01]
davout https://twitter.com/OtaK_/status/558321238230462464 <<< this replace-pronouns twitter butthurt flow seems to be attracting a whole new level of stupid [15:01]
assbot It’s really smart as a business owner to go around publicly harassing people /davoutplantaire http://t.co/3MvaixKHb5 [15:02]
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mircea_popescu davout you know, here's the thing with twitter : back when i had an account, i kept thinking all sorts of in retrospect bizarre nonsensical, fatlogic-y rationalisations for why i'm spending time there. [15:04]
mircea_popescu once they decided i killed poor anton (god rest his stupid, scammy soul), i discovered... whoa. [15:04]
mircea_popescu this is really stupid central and wtf am i doing there! [15:05]
pete_dushenski lmao [15:05]
davout yeah, i hear you [15:05]
kakobrekla looks like bitcointalk to me [15:05]
mircea_popescu habit is this insane thing. [15:05]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla pretty much. [15:05]
Pierre_Rochard ^ I sense I’m on that path too [15:05]
mircea_popescu now, in honesty, there WAS a time, in 2010, when pretty much all the good tail in romania was there. [15:05]
kakobrekla well, davout is the mod there.. [15:05]
Pierre_Rochard like any bad habit, you hit rock bottom at some point and rethink tings [15:05]
mircea_popescu and so it worked as a good heuristic. [15:05]
pete_dushenski maybe we should have "#b-a divorces twitter day" [15:05]
mircea_popescu but a) it doesn't work in english and b) it doesn't work this decade. [15:06]
undata I mostly follow people from here, not so bad [15:06]
davout kakobrekla: i got some other french dude mod, so i can just pop in there from time to time and nuke the occasional noobie [15:06]
kakobrekla so a no-show job basically [15:06]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: I'm prolly going to be stuck there because of this media startup and a need to follow RSS for dummies [15:06]
davout kakobrekla: yeah, i should b [15:07]
davout i should make a bot that moderates randomly so i get paid from the forum chest until they notice XD [15:07]
mircea_popescu lmao [15:07]
kakobrekla wait you get paid per action ? [15:07]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla see ? SEE what you missed out on ? [15:08]
kakobrekla :( [15:08]
kakobrekla meanwhile eurusd 1.137 [15:09]
kakobrekla that 2015 parity bet (which i did not make) in bitbet queue is gonna get stale [15:10]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo if you want advice, the best advice is, use curl to pull up a shiotton of feeds, create a script that greps it by keywords with weight, create another that searches for rare words, and sort the whole thing in that order. [15:10]
mircea_popescu then just go through the list. [15:10]
mircea_popescu no "social media" needed. [15:10]
undata quick update before I dive into bezzeland biz, I bought deedbot.org for deed bundles, and the thing's two cron jobs and some code cleanup from being ready [15:10]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sure, but that way there's less yelling at people. [15:10]
mircea_popescu undata cool! [15:10]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo fine, no divorce day then! [15:11]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: No, the rest of you can divorce if you want. [15:11]
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pete_dushenski sniff, it wouldn't be the same... [15:11]
mircea_popescu you folks ever did teh divorce emo-scam ? [15:12]
chetty http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150122/lt--argentina-prosecutor_killed-af1cdb5d41.html [15:13]
assbot My Way News - Argentina president says prosecutor death was not suicide ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cj9ABA ) [15:13]
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mircea_popescu o.O [15:13]
mircea_popescu wait. Cristina ?! [15:13]
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mircea_popescu !gettrust jankoxp [15:15]
assbot jankoxp is not registered in WoT. [15:15]
pete_dushenski and here i was thinking that cristina ordered the thing [15:16]
mircea_popescu i was thinking the same think, an' even said some pretty hard words about teh woman [15:16]
pete_dushenski her's is a convenient reaction, perhaps [15:17]
pete_dushenski take the words out of everyone's mouth [15:17]
mircea_popescu or deprs who have a lot more to lose than her moving on their own accord. [15:17]
pete_dushenski i wouldn't think that the argentinian powers that be would move entirely independently from cristina [15:19]
mircea_popescu depends. she's old. [15:20]
pete_dushenski but she's in the top office [15:20]
pete_dushenski she didn't trip, fall, and land there quite by accident [15:20]
pete_dushenski she must have support from somewhere. she must. [15:20]
mircea_popescu yea, actually, she did. [15:21]
mircea_popescu her husband put her in so he can come back, then died. [15:21]
mircea_popescu the exact definition of "by accident" [15:21]
pete_dushenski a i c [15:21]
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davout lol [15:21]
pete_dushenski but she's remained there for 8 years... [15:22]
pete_dushenski so she must still be pumping the right tires [15:22]
pete_dushenski or she'd have been out on her ass within the first year [15:22]
mircea_popescu you don't understand how oficialismo works. [15:23]
mircea_popescu as long as they didn't find her in bed with a live girl or a dead boy... [15:23]
pete_dushenski ha [15:23]
pete_dushenski oficialismo is a south american thing or just argentina ? [15:24]
mircea_popescu complicated, but in this particular nuance argentina. [15:24]
mircea_popescu venezuela has it's own thing. [15:24]
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Naphex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0o3TwZ6iE8 [15:27]
assbot Platteland (1995) -- Roger Ballen - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cjcs1n ) [15:27]
mircea_popescu fluffypony ^ ? [15:28]
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fluffypony lol [15:28]
mircea_popescu sorry, you're my expert on the ground in sa, which interests me. [15:29]
mircea_popescu you're stuck with random pings [15:29]
fluffypony reporting live from the heart ^z^z^z^z leafy coastal suburbs of South Africa! [15:29]
ben_vulpes http://bubblear.com/224-accusation-unrest-last-nights-nisman-protest/ << mircea_popescu, for contrast to your claims re nisman silence [15:30]
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ben_vulpes (bubblear known derps, but nevertheless) [15:30]
mircea_popescu lol [15:30]
davout fluffypony: afrikaans sounds so weird to a dutch speaker [15:31]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes well they're cloudfired so i can'tsee it. what's the claim in summary ? [15:31]
davout zo raar joh [15:31]
fluffypony davout: I can imagine - Dutch sounds bizarre to my ears [15:31]
mircea_popescu davout the mugs look so weird to a mug-ologist! [15:31]
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davout to a dutch person, an afrikaner sounds somewhat like a drunk belgian [15:32]
fluffypony hah hah [15:32]
mircea_popescu lmao [15:32]
mircea_popescu valoon ? [15:33]
rdymac Thx [15:33]
davout nee, een vlaams [15:33]
fluffypony to a South African, Dutch people sound pretentious...but after beer #3 nobody cares and we're all the best of friends [15:33]
mircea_popescu een vlaams lol [15:33]
davout lol [15:33]
mircea_popescu pleesee loongeer vowweels [15:34]
mircea_popescu because we live in hillcoutntry, and it's one to the hill and in the fog. [15:34]
davout you know what they say about men with big feet? [15:34]
mircea_popescu can't hear each ootheer [15:34]
Naphex http://www.rogerballen.com/platteland/ - those snaps [15:34]
assbot Platteland | Roger Ballen Photography ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjdJ8q ) [15:34]
mircea_popescu no, but i know what they do to girls with big butts. [15:34]
davout :D [15:35]
fluffypony actually the one thing that irritates me about Afrikaans is the double-negative, as in "ek het dit nie gesien nie" (literally: I have it not seen not) [15:35]
fluffypony like isn't one negative enough? [15:35]
rdymac The case of Nisman is obviously a really bad way to shut that guy [15:35]
mircea_popescu no, it's not./ [15:36]
ben_vulpes cloudfuxxed [15:36]
chetty yeah but it spreads fear and shuts up more people [15:36]
davout fluffypony: but it sounds like the second negative doesn't actually count, amirite? [15:36]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: more or less that "there were peepul!" [15:36]
mircea_popescu chetty i somewhat doubt that was the plan. [15:36]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i didn't see it. obviously i don't keep the entire city under surveillance. [15:36]
fluffypony davout: yeah, and if you forget it then suddenly the sentence no longer "makes sense" [15:36]
ben_vulpes http://www.bubblear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/03plaza.jpg << the wide shot isn't even terrifically convincing. [15:36]
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rdymac It was not a suicide. The truth will be known way after, when it doesn't affect anymore the president [15:36]
mircea_popescu but you'd expect i'd see it. or at any rate i do. [15:36]
davout fluffypony: LOL [15:36]
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mircea_popescu davout the negative doesn't actually cunt, you're right. yes means anal. [15:37]
davout mircea_popescu: you're such a mean harassing and hateful individual, also privilege [15:37]
mircea_popescu no means yes. no but no means no. [15:38]
mircea_popescu understand rape culture. [15:38]
fluffypony I thought davout was the mean harassing person for all the gavinharassing in that IRC log? [15:38]
davout i have a lot to learn [15:38]
mircea_popescu gavinherring is not a woman. [15:38]
fluffypony the reddits were all "OMG GAVIN HAS THE PATIENCE OF A GOD. HE IS TRULY A SAINT." [15:38]
mircea_popescu tho he possibly crosdressed in the past [15:38]
mircea_popescu seeing how satoshi may well have been [15:38]
davout fluffypony: no today i was the leave-the-pronoun-switcher-alone bullying individual [15:38]
fluffypony oh yes [15:39]
fluffypony ont he twitterz [15:39]
ben_vulpes davout: leave britney alone [15:39]
fluffypony you know the redditards are going to get you murdered off twitter [15:39]
mircea_popescu no that's not murder. [15:39]
mircea_popescu only when he does it. [15:39]
fluffypony especially on a day like today when Bitcointalk is down [15:39]
fluffypony they have nothing better to do [15:39]
mircea_popescu davout who are you going to twitterkill btw ? [15:39]
fluffypony I vote for Roger Ver [15:39]
mircea_popescu dude can't he pick his own ? [15:39]
mircea_popescu davout : TRIGGER WARNING!!! [15:40]
davout then comes along this random neckbeard, pretend-cto, that would totally penetrate my security, if only he had some time [15:40]
fluffypony no! he must be decentralised and let us vote! [15:40]
davout i dunno, i already did aanontop once or twice [15:40]
davout now i'm blocked, gotta find another one [15:40]
mircea_popescu wait, tardstalk is STILL down ? [15:41]
davout mircea_popescu: not enough donations it appears [15:42]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i will bet you that this is in no way upgrade related. has that smell of panic resulting from legal process. [15:42]
kakobrekla how long has it been? not much? [15:42]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla qntra reported it yest. [15:42]
kakobrekla a [15:42]
davout they said it was hdd failure [15:42]
mircea_popescu lol ?! [15:42]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Post is updated this morning to include their claim of hdd failure [15:42]
jurov you know, some hdds escaped... will take at least days till they catch all of them [15:42]
mircea_popescu and here i thought hotswappable arrays are common practice. [15:43]
Naphex jurov: well i'll telly ou, that if you don't have spare hdd's [15:43]
davout their HDDs were victim of their own success [15:43]
Naphex good luck finding compatible spares in less then 5 days [15:43]
mircea_popescu Naphex you know the marquardt idiot is sitting on like 5mn worth of donations / revenues ? [15:43]
davout or maybe it's their bank that's placing arbitrary access limits on their HDDs [15:43]
Naphex mircea_popescu: yeah, i've heard. which makes it way worsse [15:44]
mircea_popescu the plague of bitcoin : it empowered all sorts of people who, well... aren't really up to the task. [15:44]
Naphex not having spare hdd's available for your server, will make you rage so hard, while you call all the available suppliers [15:44]
Naphex ofcourse they won't have any available, especially for your raid [15:44]
fluffypony oh wow [15:45]
fluffypony I've just read the Twitter "thread" [15:45]
mircea_popescu Naphex the dcs that work with noobs generally (if well managed) do two things : only use a few specific types, and keep a supply on hand. [15:45]
fluffypony HE FORESAW THE VALUE COLLAPSE [15:45]
fluffypony he truly is the prophet of this generation [15:45]
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mircea_popescu yeah, except "price collapse" != "value collapse". [15:45]
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Naphex mircea_popescu: doubt anyone was monitoring those servers. HDD's give quite a few warnings before blowing up. Especially in raid setups [15:46]
mircea_popescu they may. [15:46]
Naphex red/yellow lights would be blinking [15:46]
mircea_popescu i have seen cases where they do not./ [15:46]
Naphex prolly, but i'd rate that very rare events [15:46]
adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2015#988045 << the trick is to kick it before you hit rock bottom, otherwise you keep saying, "oh, i haven't found the bottom yet, better seek onwards" [15:46]
assbot Logged on 22-01-2015 18:01:40; Pierre_Rochard: like any bad habit, you hit rock bottom at some point and rethink tings [15:46]
fluffypony it still boggles my mind that with all the donation money he can't afford to pay a part-time sysadmin to get them setup properly [15:46]
mircea_popescu Naphex very rare indeed. [15:47]
fluffypony it would take maybe a day to move that backend over to a Galera cluster [15:47]
Naphex i've had full hardware hosted and running for 6+ years. dozens of hdd's switched and replaced. maybe 1 complete raid failure on HP Proliants [15:47]
fluffypony how does he not understand points-of-failure? [15:47]
mircea_popescu Naphex i recently passed the 1k physical hdds lifetime award. and seen it exactly once. [15:47]
mircea_popescu fluffypony because he is a 24 yo derp exactly like any 24 yo derp you could get by sending a naked 23 yo hottie parading down the street. [15:48]
Naphex sounds right [15:48]
Naphex mircea_popescu: was using HP Proliants for a while, had one that the whole 8x raid array just barked, as soon as i replaced 1 hdd, the other would fail [15:48]
Naphex had to replace the whole array [15:48]
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adlai re bct downtime... "is your hdd running? BETTER GO CATCH IT!" [15:49]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: theymos is 24? Fuck I'm getting old. [15:49]
adlai hey that makes me feel young again! o/ [15:49]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller something like that, 23, 24 [15:49]
fluffypony maybe he's related to usagi. [15:50]
thestringpuller ^- lol [15:50]
mircea_popescu nah, usagi is mentally ill. [15:50]
Naphex maybe he used SSD's without the controller having TRIM support :)) [15:50]
Naphex thats a new hipster way to blow up your stuff [15:51]
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fluffypony lol [15:51]
mircea_popescu "Scientists have found that the 'cowgirl' position is responsible for half of all penile fractures during sexual intercourse" [15:52]
mircea_popescu this needed discovering. [15:52]
mircea_popescu wtf was it covered in ? [15:53]
fluffypony vigorous research [15:54]
thestringpuller huehue [15:54]
mircea_popescu lmao [15:54]
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mircea_popescu https://safeorscam.com/karma << so is that pgp key block on the bottom of the page broken universally, or just MacGPG2 v2.0.17 decided to fork gnupg and not tell anyone ? [16:00]
mircea_popescu !up STRML [16:01]
-assbot- You voiced STRML for 30 minutes. [16:01]
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STRML Thanks Mircea [16:01]
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STRML Wanted to chime in, that key is working in gpgtools 1.5b2 [16:02]
STRML there were some pretty serious bugs in some of the earlier 2.0.x versions, perhaps that is the issue [16:02]
STRML i'm on macgpg2 2.0.26 [16:03]
mircea_popescu gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. ius the very helpful error i get. [16:03]
mircea_popescu anyone with an actual (nix) gnupg care to check ? [16:03]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/02d08070c291858320a1a4bc2719f279/tumblr_ng3vf2SjqH1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg << payment for your effort! [16:04]
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fluffypony gpg: key 29D9246A: public key "Operation Atlas " imported [16:06]
fluffypony gpg: Total number processed: 1 [16:06]
fluffypony gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1) [16:06]
fluffypony works fine here [16:06]
STRML mircea_popescu: working in linux mint as well, although I get a message about an invalid armor header [16:06]
mircea_popescu hm [16:07]
STRML gpg: invalid armor header: [16:07]
STRML gpg: key 29D9246A: public key "Operation Atlas " imported [16:07]
STRML gpg: Total number processed: 1 [16:07]
STRML gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1) [16:07]
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fluffypony STRML: that's because it's interpreting the
as a line break
[16:07]
fluffypony I think anyway [16:07]
fluffypony gpg: invalid armor header: mQINBE8wSNoBEAC3Bg08G6qZVa62svL60QktAWqWByK6MYaMc6MQOAQYXC3WxFtM [16:07]
STRML ah could be. [16:07]
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mircea_popescu ah yeah, it works on stock ggp [16:08]
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mircea_popescu an since there's two of you, http://36.media.tumblr.com/508f2365dc83e5147af096c30e0bd912/tumblr_ng3tnb7XDz1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg [16:15]
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kakobrekla hmm [16:17]
kakobrekla i been there i think. [16:17]
kakobrekla just the timing was off apparently. [16:17]
mircea_popescu lol tis barcelona [16:18]
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STRML I guess I live in the wrong city [16:19]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/cfdfa563eb6ea4cbda85e0ce24b74776/tumblr_ng3sl8lacM1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg << this is what asciilifeform missed out on :D [16:19]
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mod6 dang [16:21]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/c88fee11721145ae9fdb55d14a3e4d16/tumblr_ng3qxdgkxe1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg there you go mod6, moar outsdoor like, for you. [16:21]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjkRSc ) [16:21]
mod6 :D tyvm [16:22]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/973de9a76c1d60f52173199e053d9e25/tumblr_ng3qs8sdhy1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg me, i'm more of a city type. [16:22]
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mod6 now, there's a stress-free job. go around taking photos of those girls. [16:30]
mod6 every day is a great day! lol [16:31]
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mircea_popescu you know, it actually is pretty shitty a job ? [16:34]
mircea_popescu it doesn't pay that much, you have to travel a lot, and what you don't see is that most hourlong shots take like 4 or 5, because constant interruptions. [16:34]
mircea_popescu the one guy i knew that was best at it used to be a war photoreporter before. [16:34]
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mod6 huh. [16:35]
mircea_popescu myeah. [16:36]
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mod6 well, i guess i can imagine. [16:39]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Sounds like enough for almost everything but respectable BTC node << actually, if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on "how to turn commercially available router into btc full node" i'd love him long time. [16:40]
mircea_popescu stuff like "desolder the 512mb card, replace with 128gb card" and "get kernel so and so in there" would be all fine. [16:41]
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mircea_popescu if bitcoin nodes would cost something like 50 bucks and 6 hours' time off a computer-aware kid, that'd help immensely [16:41]
mircea_popescu because practically everyone has 4 hole router at home of which 2-3 holes are used. so get that plugged into the 4th and there we go, node problem fixed. [16:41]
kakobrekla i use all the holes [16:42]
mod6 same [16:42]
mircea_popescu jesus [16:42]
mod6 :D [16:43]
mircea_popescu you know if you use all the holes it means you got poor management [16:44]
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mircea_popescu because there should be more holes being provisioned. [16:44]
kakobrekla very efficient [16:44]
fluffypony who even uses the holes, I use teh wifiez [16:44]
fluffypony wireless ALL of the things! [16:44]
* mod6 was on another tangent [16:44]
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mircea_popescu I USE ALL THE TANGENTS [16:45]
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kakobrekla ascii has a tanget router [16:45]
kakobrekla prolly two. [16:45]
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kakobrekla missed this somehow http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2015/01/andreessen-horowitz-invests-in-stack-exchange/?cb=1 [17:30]
assbot Andreessen Horowitz Invests in Stack Exchange « Blog – Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3JiHD ) [17:30]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/gQSDSOS.jpg [17:30]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3JoyT ) [17:30]
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danielpbarron "People emailed me saying she is not a dog so i googled llama and she is a llama, and I am keeping her because she already likes me and my house." [17:33]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ... if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on 'how to turn commercially available router into btc full node' << the gadget i mentioned earlier, plus process, only need a larger - 64G+ - usb drive, to make this go. but i did not publish instructions, because did not think anyone wanted this. [17:50]
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davout mircea_popescu: lol tis barcelona <<< the one with the mcdonalds flag is totally amsterdam [17:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3399 @ 0.00049223 = 1.6731 BTC [-] [18:16]
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nubbins` asciilifeform total cost? [18:19]
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BingoBoingo nubbins`: What did woodcoddler do to Bitcointalk? [18:21]
nubbins` i think u.s. customs ordered them to take it offline [18:21]
nubbins` because of the illegal wood importation [18:21]
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nubbins` wts silkscreened butterfly labs dildos [18:26]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: You know what would be an interesting twist of the laser carved scam? [18:29]
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thestringpuller !up felipelalli [18:30]
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BingoBoingo nubbins`: I'm thinking you set up the normal carved while you wait booth at the mall or carnival or whatever with your laser, but you plug in a joystick and a trackball to make it seem like you are piloting the laser manually. [18:31]
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nubbins` heheh [18:31]
nubbins` semi-automatic [18:31]
BingoBoingo Seriously [18:32]
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BingoBoingo Dude could call himself a master laserworker to get his margins back up [18:32]
jurov ;;lasers [18:32]
gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [18:32]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/kari_paul/status/558351397503393793 [18:33]
assbot Ulbricht's college buddy just testified that Ulbricht told him in November 2011 he had already sold Silk Road to someone else. [18:33]
BingoBoingo ;;kittenlaser [18:33]
gribble Error: "kittenlaser" is not a valid command. [18:33]
BingoBoingo ;;kittenlasers [18:33]
gribble Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command. [18:33]
BingoBoingo ;;kittens [18:34]
gribble ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ .・( meow! ) [18:34]
BingoBoingo ;;laserkittens [18:34]
gribble ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew* [18:34]
midnightmagic ehh.. the testimoney of a friend. what's that worth [18:35]
BingoBoingo probably some quanta of doubt [18:36]
BingoBoingo Convicting should be hard [18:36]
danielpbarron doesn't that testimony hurt him further? "he told me he stopped murdering in 2011" [18:37]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: His lawyer's hand was already force into admitting he started it and was the bag holder. Right now the fight is to shave off charges and years in jail while setting up traps to get it overturned on appeal. [18:38]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ideal candidate for an instant pocket-sized ~100 usd (largely cost of eeprom) node - miniature 'nas' devices. there are at least half a dozen manufacturers. not hard to do. [18:41]
kakobrekla or like hp microserver [18:42]
jurov dunno all these are only meagerly equipped with memory [18:43]
jurov was main reason why i went with miniitx [18:43]
kakobrekla 16gig for the microserver [18:43]
jurov with full 8G ram [18:43]
kakobrekla prolly 100$ second hand, 200 or so new. [18:44]
jurov hp microserver with 16gigs for $100-200? where? [18:44]
kakobrekla was just stating max [18:44]
kakobrekla by default they come with 4 or 8 i think [18:45]
kakobrekla anyway i have one in my kitchen. [18:45]
jurov oh btw don't they have remote management like iLO? i'm not so superstitious like asciilifeform, but do avoid that, too [18:48]
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kakobrekla that backdoor is sold separately [18:49]
asciilifeform imho, no to x86, no to fans, and ought to keep cost minimal. [18:49]
kakobrekla but yes for reliability. even if rpi wold be strong enough (hey he didnt say no to arm, though he prolly ment it) it wouldnt cut as the thing is fragile. [18:52]
jurov i was under impression all have ilo nowadays [18:52]
kakobrekla idk mebbe the new models [18:52]
asciilifeform 'raspberry?' terrible, terrible i/o. ethernet on same usb as the storage. no thanks. [18:56]
kakobrekla yes i know its terrible [18:56]
kakobrekla prolly most chicom nas is same [18:57]
kakobrekla btw those ARM servers that got in france, more than qualified to run this [18:58]
danielpbarron https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19133/bitcoin-truly-decentralized-yes-important/#comment-1811838579 [19:01]
assbot Is Bitcoin Truly Decentralized? Yes – and Here Is Why It's Important – Bitcoin Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4uQVl ) [19:01]
thestringpuller can qntra just kill bitcoin magazine already? [19:03]
jurov another murderous rage victim? [19:04]
jurov let's decentralize our mind itself! i heard THC or LSD can be used [19:05]
danielpbarron voorhees pretending MPEx doesn't exist [19:06]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/kidnappers-demand-ransom-be-paid-with-bitcoin/ [19:10]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: To be fair his settlement bars him from Bitcoin securities for a while [19:10]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: those ARM servers that got in france, more than qualified to run this << what do they cost? iirc mircea was asking for a dirt-cheap gadget [19:13]
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kakobrekla cant be bought afaik hehe [19:13]
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davout danielpbarron: "voorhees pretending MPEx doesn't exist" <<< how is he doing that? [19:16]
danielpbarron his opening argument is about how coinbase is the premire bitcoin service [19:17]
davout ah [19:20]
danielpbarron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbR6iQ62v9k << live troll box! [19:20]
assbot The YouTube Interview with President Obama - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4zJOi ) [19:20]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: i was sorta assuming that mircea was posing the problem of whether a node could be optimized for 1) minimal cost 2) physical compactness in that order, perhaps to be airdropped behind enemy lines [19:28]
kakobrekla aha prolly yea [19:28]
danielpbarron wow, the topic of "cyber security" is being covered by someone named "GloZell," a youtuber famous for filling her bathtub with milk and cereal and swiming in it [19:29]
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mircea_popescu not bad. [19:32]
asciilifeform jurov: to pose the question of 'hardware diddlery' for a machine in one's kitchen, can be called superstition; to pose the same question re: xxx thousand physically identical bitcoin nodes airdropped over enemy country, is stark rationality. [19:34]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/6dacbc6201bea84c969f0ea3b0b86d2f/tumblr_ng3pe9d8Sy1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg (also not bad) [19:34]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Dfs2 ) [19:34]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol who the fuck is badbitcoin.org [19:39]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Some derp "scam spotting" service. [19:40]
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mircea_popescu yeah but i mean, who as in what person. [19:40]
mircea_popescu "Declaration of Interest. We have investments in Paycoin (XPY) and in GAW. We invest in order to generate funds to continue running this site. We would not invest in anything we considered to be a Ponzi or Scam. We have exercised due diligence and believe this to be a trustworthy company and project. We also provide links to trusted 3rd party sites. [19:40]
mircea_popescu January 2015" [19:40]
mircea_popescu ok nevermind. [19:40]
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mircea_popescu looked a lot like astroturf, turns out it is exactly astroturf. [19:41]
davout so many chumps, so little time [19:41]
BingoBoingo And astroturf is a phenomenon, not a who [19:42]
mircea_popescu http://36.media.tumblr.com/830bd8bbae0d70d3020f2db089f7be92/tumblr_ng3p4sXH621s9e2ofo1_500.jpg [19:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Fqf5 ) [19:43]
mircea_popescu davout so will you be able to take over if/when bitpay croaks ? [19:44]
mircea_popescu davout: thestringpuller: you're australian amirite? << no, he [19:45]
mircea_popescu 's our token black guy. cazalla is the token ozian. [19:45]
davout yeah, he's a cowboy [19:45]
davout re bitpay i have no idea [19:46]
kakobrekla most 'merchants' be in merrica [19:46]
davout the way i see it the payment bzns is just as an extra pipe to bring volume to the exchange [19:46]
mircea_popescu well... payments. [19:46]
davout yep [19:46]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i ask specifically because i have a coupla derps im paying via bitpay currently. [19:47]
BingoBoingo !up cazalla [19:47]
davout kakobrekla: i can't america, because fatca [19:47]
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kakobrekla i kno [19:47]
mircea_popescu backup plans never hurt. once they go "well wtf we do nao, we don't want to lose your $xxxx" i just go "use this" and end of story. [19:47]
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mircea_popescu this shit's fascinating. davout's article ? 2 comments. reddit pseudo-discussion of the topic ? >100 comments. [19:49]
mircea_popescu echo chamber be echotastic. [19:49]
jurov can't get karma from comments on davouts blog [19:50]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: i think i just blown my retard-o-meter << who's "kristo atlas" again ? not the actual atlas ?! [19:50]
jurov not bittips :) [19:50]
jurov *nor [19:50]
kakobrekla nfi [19:50]
mircea_popescu such weird. [19:50]
mircea_popescu jurov: don't copy that stuff here then. can cause murderous rage for mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and others << j knows. [19:51]
kakobrekla https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presscontact/kristov-atlas [19:51]
assbot Kristov Atlas | Bitcoin Press Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4HB28 ) [19:51]
mircea_popescu but seriously : so the people too dumb to participate in the actual bitcoin discussion, here, eitehr because they can't get an irc client going or because they can't gpg or whatever, because their windows doesn't come with a "b-a button", sit somewhere and derp. [19:51]
mircea_popescu good for em lol [19:51]
mircea_popescu BitcoinRole: "Entrepreneur, Writer" ? srsly ? [19:52]
mircea_popescu never heard of him. [19:52]
kakobrekla Kristov is the author of "Anonymous Bitcoin: How to Keep Your ฿ All to Yourself," available for sale at http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com. [19:52]
assbot Anonymous Bitcoin: How to Keep Your B All to Yourself – Anonymous Bitcoin Book [19:52]
mircea_popescu also never heard of it. [19:53]
kakobrekla just [19:53]
mircea_popescu somehow, we all manage, inexplicably. [19:53]
mircea_popescu assbot: Bitcoin Forum Bitcointalk is Down due to Disk Failure - Data Lost << bs. he got served, panicked and deleted the data. [19:54]
mircea_popescu methinks we see a jailed & pardoned marquardt show up here to "talk business" within the year. [19:54]
kakobrekla last few hrs only ? [19:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ... i have a coupla derps im paying via bitpay << lol!! srsly ? in usa, no less? [19:54]
kakobrekla https://twitter.com/bitcointalk/status/558273534393217024 [19:55]
assbot Data since Jan 21 21:44 UTC will not be automatically recovered, though if anything important was lost, I might be able to find it manually. [19:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform at least some. [19:55]
cazalla bitcoinpresscenter.org was andreas derps response after he was denied a listing on some other bitcoin site from memory [19:55]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mind-blowing [19:55]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla hm. well... mebbe. [19:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform why ? [19:55]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i guess no good reason. [19:56]
mircea_popescu cazalla so basically this is the o'reilly flavour of astroturfed "bitcoin experts" ? [19:56]
jurov let's call them honey badgers [19:57]
mircea_popescu *: danielpbarron seriously doubts it will be on freenode in 20 years, or if there will even be a freenode << as far as freenode is concenred, i am agreed. however, b-a is 4ever! [19:57]
mircea_popescu jurov i dun recall, what's that reference ? [19:57]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/group-proposes-bitcoin-wallet-privacy-ratings-criteria/ [19:57]
jurov mircea_popescu: animals on book covers [19:58]
mircea_popescu oh oh [19:58]
jurov http://www.wired.com/2013/12/bitcoin_honey/ and this ofs [19:58]
assbot How Bitcoin Became the Honey Badger of Money | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Jqfu ) [19:58]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/3e42f03b97fba1bd5302e2aea3abff40/tumblr_ng3ntwviXL1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg [19:59]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4JwnF ) [19:59]
jurov i'm havin'it [19:59]
jurov or what was the mcd's slogan? [19:59]
mircea_popescu wow, conversion ? [19:59]
jurov jk [20:00]
davout LOL [20:00]
mircea_popescu maybe you're straight-curious :D [20:00]
davout lmao [20:00]
jurov yes, i'm curious :) [20:00]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron: if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody important was there to write about it, did it make a sound? << yes. after the beep, hear the sound it made. [20:00]
mircea_popescu *beep* [20:01]
* jurov farts [20:01]
ben_vulpes heyo terrists [20:01]
ben_vulpes no i'm not waking up late [20:01]
mircea_popescu lobbes: I'm glad I discovered this place, man. Otherwise I would have been led off the cliff a long time ago << yer welcome. [20:02]
cazalla jurov, lovin' it although they changed it to lovin' beats hatin' apparently http://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2014/10/27/mcdonalds-preps-new-ad-push-trip-to-super-bowl-sources/ [20:02]
assbot McDonald’s Preps New Ad Push & Trip To Super Bowl -Sources - CMO Today - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4KekG ) [20:02]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes tell the sluts if they do this to you again i will hunt them down. [20:02]
ben_vulpes i can just imagine them frolicking squealing naked through the woods [20:03]
mircea_popescu jurov pls to look in bash mod queue ? [20:03]
ben_vulpes "popescu is coming! popescu is coming!" [20:03]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/a87c218093b4f352dce407fb63ff5f8b/tumblr_ng3nof8hHo1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg close enough [20:03]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4KwIq ) [20:03]
ben_vulpes "IN YOUR ENDO, HOOOOORES" [20:03]
jurov there are only 3 items in the bash q [20:03]
jurov kako taketh away [20:03]
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mircea_popescu hoary whores! [20:04]
jurov approved [20:05]
ben_vulpes don't copy that stuff here then. can cause murderous rage for mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and others << my murderous rage reservoir is depleted [20:05]
kakobrekla yeah [20:05]
ben_vulpes i'm cut all the way over to gleeful wanton murder today [20:05]
kakobrekla i would just take the last line of the last bash [20:05]
kakobrekla errything else trash [20:05]
ben_vulpes "HTML? SUUURE! IMMA BILL YOU LIKE AN HOUR FOR THAT! ON CALL? SURE! THAT'S LIKE 3 HOURS EASY PEASY! [20:05]
jurov you said you're depleted? [20:06]
ben_vulpes that's not rage [20:06]
ben_vulpes that's glee [20:06]
ben_vulpes but all caps glee [20:06]
jurov kk [20:06]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes had an overflow in his rage buffer [20:07]
ben_vulpes it's like one of those "so bad its good" things but it's more like "so pissed at computers i've now got ptsd and 'shall we over the trenches for fun tonight fellas?'" [20:07]
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ben_vulpes got tablets? [20:08]
mircea_popescu mthreat http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2921642/Group-Jewish-backpackers-tortured-hours-Argentinian-hostel-locals-chanted-trying-Patagonia.html << you ever heard of this !? [20:11]
assbot Jewish backpackers tortured for hours in Argentinian hostel by locals | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4MsAC ) [20:11]
mircea_popescu one week it's the imaginary tampon shortage, the next week it's the roasted jews... [20:12]
ben_vulpes [] https://twitter.com/OtaK_/status/558321238230462464 <<< this replace-pronouns twitter butthurt flow seems to be attracting a whole new level of stupid << i don't get the 140 character [20:16]
assbot It’s really smart as a business owner to go around publicly harassing people /davoutplantaire http://t.co/3MvaixKHb5 [20:16]
ben_vulpes thing [20:16]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: It's stuck that way because SMS messages. [20:17]
danielpbarron ben_vulpes, twitter started as an SMS service, and tweets were limited to what could be sent via text [20:17]
ben_vulpes ... [20:18]
ben_vulpes no i get the history and the technology, asshats. [20:18]
BingoBoingo Ah. [20:18]
kakobrekla sms is 160 chars [20:18]
danielpbarron 20 chars for username [20:18]
ben_vulpes fucking sms. [20:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00049027 = 18.3361 BTC [-] {2} [20:20]
BingoBoingo SMS is a scam anyway [20:20]
mircea_popescu http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1762050-violento-ataque-antisemita-en-un-hostel-de-lago-puelo-en-chubut << this one apparently actually happened [20:22]
assbot Violento ataque antisemita en un hostel de Lago Puelo, en Chubut - 22.01.2015 - lanacion.com   ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4OKje ) [20:22]
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mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/23b089cf4e2a31310c74322cfc25a1ed/tumblr_ng3lecDThG1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg [20:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4QoBi ) [20:29]
undata http://blogs.blackberry.com/2015/01/blackberry-net-neutrality/ << bb having been beaten to a pulp, demands the state level the playing field [20:30]
assbot Net Neutrality: No on Reclassification, Yes on Adding Content & App Providers | Inside BlackBerry ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4QF7i ) [20:30]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/anjiecast/status/558403460056772608 [20:31]
assbot Sophistication of SOTU addresses has steadily dropped over time http://t.co/FUvzoUJLSf /hashtag/democracy?src=hash HT /Outsideness http://t.co/2dQgGpo4dB [20:31]
BingoBoingo undata: Wait until they demand the new reference bitcoin client and gossipd build on windows [20:32]
mircea_popescu demands are cheap. [20:32]
undata BingoBoingo: alarms going off... "hurry undata... achieve escape velocity!" [20:32]
* undata types furiously [20:33]
ben_vulpes http://www.mercenarytrader.com/2015/01/baby-got-black-swan/ [20:33]
assbot Baby Got Black (Swan) | Mercenary Trader ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Rmxq ) [20:33]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2015#988309 << asciilifeform pls to put very detailed, complete instructions on your blog, plus pictures! this is really very nice and good. [20:55]
assbot Logged on 22-01-2015 20:46:00; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on 'how to turn commercially available router into btc full node' << the gadget i mentioned earlier, plus process, only need a larger - 64G+ - usb drive, to make this go. but i did not publish instructions, because did not think anyone wanted this. [20:55]
mircea_popescu davout: the one with the mcdonalds flag is totally amsterdam << shit you're right [20:55]
mircea_popescu diff shot in barcelona. [20:56]
mthreat mircea_popescu: hadn't seen that article... but lots of ex-germans in them there parts of patagonia [20:57]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic: ehh.. the testimoney of a friend. what's that worth << sworn testimony is sworn testimony. unless the witness gets impeached, it's worth as much as an employee's testimony [20:57]
mircea_popescu (which is every single agent guy) [20:57]
mircea_popescu mthreat apparently it actually happened. [20:57]
BingoBoingo O.o http://thebulletin.org/multimedia/it-3-minutes-midnight [20:59]
assbot It is 3 minutes to midnight | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4XaqB ) [20:59]
BingoBoingo http://thebulletin.org/press-release/press-release-it-now-3-minutes-midnight7950 [20:59]
assbot Press release: It is now 3 minutes to midnight | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Xg1v ) [20:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: imho, no to x86, no to fans, and ought to keep cost minimal. << yes. [21:00]
mircea_popescu maybe i'm not all together, but... what the fuck does stackexchange need 40mn for ? [21:03]
mircea_popescu i mean, i like spolsky and errything. but... [21:04]
nubbins` https://twitter.com/bitcointalk [21:09]
nubbins` someone with a twatter account ask thermos to manually restore the woodcollector scamzor thread [21:09]
assbot BitcoinTalk (@bitcointalk) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Ziig ) [21:09]
davout nubbins`: i'll just post that in #bitcointalk-staff [21:09]
nubbins` o [21:09]
nubbins` tell him no sweat if all the nubbins rep threads don't get restored ;D [21:09]
davout hah, w/e not much ppl there, and no gribble, so no ;;later tell [21:10]
mircea_popescu gribble works globally! [21:10]
nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxefyn [21:10]
assbot TheWoodCollector comments on Anybody know why bitcointalk is down? ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4ZJJo ) [21:11]
davout mircea_popescu: how will it know theymos is around if doesn't hang out in a chan where gribble also idles? [21:11]
nubbins` "I dont have a youtube account. Well, didnt have a youtube account. With new accounts you can only upload 10 minute videos i just found out. My DSLR camcorder records 20 minutes of video at a time." [21:11]
mircea_popescu davout ah there is that. [21:11]
davout and afaik thermos isn't that big of an irc guy [21:12]
davout nubbins`: just make a fake expert woodcarver competitor account, you'll probably get a whole extra load of lulz out of it [21:12]
davout when it comes back [21:12]
mircea_popescu lmao [21:13]
Apocalyptic davout, I've seen him idling in #bitcoin recently [21:13]
mircea_popescu why! [21:13]
nubbins` my dslr will take a minimum of 20 minutes of video at a time [21:13]
nubbins` lelelel [21:13]
mircea_popescu "I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS FROM MY OWN MIND, I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT I USED STOCK IMAGES ON SOME OF THE PIECES. that is not a crime, i own the rights to them. 70% of your metal coins on the forum have stock image elements on them. Better start a dozen more witch hunts." [21:13]
mircea_popescu handcarved stock image! [21:13]
davout a screencap of a stock picture is OC!1 genius! [21:14]
* mircea_popescu goes to starred restaurant, orders happy meal. they put one together by hand. me is gratified. [21:14]
davout lol [21:14]
mircea_popescu "you know you could have had duck a la reine for the same money ?" [21:15]
mircea_popescu "what's money." [21:15]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/9cebc0d25b6527f339ca7a05bc59a012/tumblr_ng3je7D9CM1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg [21:16]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y50Eto ) [21:16]
mircea_popescu "agricultrice francaise" [21:16]
davout et ce n'est pas le champ que ca me donne envie de labourer... [21:19]
mircea_popescu <:D [21:19]
mircea_popescu (it's not labour, it's to plow. false friend :D) [21:20]
mircea_popescu while in english women go into labour, in french men labour to send them there. [21:20]
davout semantically the french "labourer" is a subset of "to labour" [21:21]
davout as in "one particular kind of work" [21:21]
mircea_popescu :p [21:21]
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mircea_popescu davout actually the best continuation of the laser handcarving drama would be if the guy turns out to be a midget chinese woman that does it with her nails. [21:23]
davout that stock photographers stole from? [21:24]
mircea_popescu lol no, actually copies stock photos for no discernible reason. [21:25]
mircea_popescu just you know, pure absurdism. [21:25]
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davout i can taste the absurd [21:26]
BingoBoingo I'm telling you the better version of this scam would be an artisan laser etching booth with a placebo joystick. [21:26]
mircea_popescu that would be pretty cool too [21:26]
BingoBoingo "hand guided laser etching" [21:27]
mircea_popescu no magnifying glass or anything right ? [21:27]
BingoBoingo Of course not. It's a carnival barker's scam. [21:28]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/f0052b5e9c40283fe9a86fa64ea0b7b8/tumblr_ng3fjklqmB1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg << that obnoxious moment when not only your younger sister has better boobage... but she outruns you, too. [21:28]
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mircea_popescu #girlhate [21:28]
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mircea_popescu !up nijotz [21:32]
-assbot- You voiced nijotz for 30 minutes. [21:32]
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nijotz mircea_popescu: danke [21:34]
mircea_popescu sure. [21:34]
nijotz I'll have to look into this web of trust rating [21:34]
mircea_popescu defo. [21:34]
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davout that pronoun-gate keeps delivering [21:51]
mircea_popescu lol [21:53]
davout http://i.imgur.com/eAGlewn.png [21:54]
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BingoBoingo My two favorite parts of speech to use "Fuck" as are pronoun and adverb. "Stupid fuck, stop fuckly jumping around like a fuck." [21:56]
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davout BingoBoingo: which makes me think of -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR9KUaOlxpk [21:58]
assbot François Pérusse - Apprendre l'anglais - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BiUuKZ ) [21:58]
davout "Learn english" [21:58]
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mircea_popescu sooo... camembert pizza. who knew. [22:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00049015 = 3.284 BTC [-] [22:06]
davout mircea_popescu: 60 million french people [22:08]
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mircea_popescu what can i tell ye. [22:08]
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mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcoin-finance-in-2014/ << i thought this was pretty great writing from mike_c [22:09]
assbot Bitcoin Finance in 2014 | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7Ru7J ) [22:09]
mircea_popescu !up Foptork [22:09]
-assbot- You voiced Foptork for 30 minutes. [22:09]
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mike_c thank you! [22:09]
asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=8&cpage=1#comment-17069 << comments from folks who won't learn to read are annoying [22:11]
assbot Loper OS » Intro, Part II. ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7ROmM ) [22:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: router... instructions << see this site: http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL >> the only modification is, take a larger usb flash drive, follow his gpart resize instructions. [22:13]
assbot FreeBSD 10.x on Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite [22:13]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: near the end of that page there is a script for cross-compile to mips on a larger machine (e.g. x86) [22:13]
pete_dushenski stan can it be true that you haven't written an article in 7 months ?? [22:14]
pete_dushenski seems like you had a solid streak going [22:14]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: it's true. largely on account of being very busy with actual work. [22:14]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i generally don't write the kind of article that doesn't require at least a full day's concentration. [22:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'm not certain, however, that 'edgerouter' would be the optimal candidate for the mega-cheap node. the device itself is around 100 usd, and a decently large flash drive is yet again a quarter of that. [22:15]
asciilifeform what did we need these for again...? [22:15]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform that effort definitely comes through! [22:15]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: glad you enjoyed the articles. i actually have a new one in the works, but - no time presently to finish it. [22:16]
asciilifeform (it was to concern the usg dept. of firmware-diddlers) [22:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so that anyone can make one, and perhaps some of the redditards actually will. [22:17]
pete_dushenski ah well looking forward to it [22:17]
nubbins` "The battery just died in my camera, so i am taking a quick break" [22:17]
nubbins` -woodcollector [22:17]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it would be quite simple to distribute a binary image that a monkey could pipe to usb flash and insert. for man, rather than monkey, one would prefer a 'thebitcoin.foundation'-style cookbook with signed configs/patches... [22:19]
mircea_popescu or a blogpost. [22:19]
mircea_popescu anything. [22:19]
mircea_popescu i just want a single item containing absolutely 100% everything that is needed, with no references. [22:19]
mircea_popescu none of "go here and it's 95% good" [22:20]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: do you have a favourite piece of hardware in mind? preferably one which you know to be readily available around the world. [22:20]
mircea_popescu nope. i was trying to shoehorn into your recent research. [22:20]
asciilifeform aha [22:20]
* asciilifeform thinks [22:20]
mircea_popescu since you did all that anyway [22:20]
kakobrekla hook it up to anonibox! [22:21]
nubbins` two raspberry pis for the cost of a $100 router :P [22:21]
mircea_popescu yeh a $100 router is a bit rich. [22:21]
asciilifeform nubbins`: go try set up a node (any version of bitcoind you like) on 'raspberry'. [22:21]
mircea_popescu nubbins` is the raspberry still on a queue ? or they worked itthrough yet ? [22:21]
nubbins` 8) [22:21]
undata it will never sync [22:21]
undata the pi is teeerrible [22:21]
asciilifeform nubbins`: they used a defective i/o chip, which is abominably slow [22:21]
nubbins` mp they're freely available these days [22:22]
mircea_popescu aok [22:22]
nubbins` asciilifeform even the "B+" version? [22:22]
nubbins` http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/model-b-plus/ [22:22]
undata if the tutorial included bootstrap.dat maybe, and even then would take a lifetime to catch up from there [22:22]
assbot Model B+ | Raspberry Pi ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7TGw5 ) [22:22]
asciilifeform even it. [22:22]
pete_dushenski mike_c your year-in-review just reminded me about just-dice... [22:22]
pete_dushenski i was thinking that someone in the wot needs to get a dice site going and i was going to see if j-d was in need of a new owner but it looks like it's still running? [22:23]
mike_c yeah. what a money spout that thing was. i miss it. [22:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55700 @ 0.00048217 = 26.8569 BTC [-] {2} [22:23]
mike_c j-d now runs on fake-coin [22:23]
pete_dushenski now i wonder who's behind it [22:23]
mike_c b-a has a dice site, coinroll [22:23]
mike_c jurov runs it [22:23]
pete_dushenski a yes! [22:23]
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pete_dushenski jurov needs to promo better [22:24]
nubbins` how about a beaglebox [22:24]
nubbins` or w/e they're called [22:24]
pete_dushenski the man has services to provide! [22:24]
nubbins` beagle...bone? [22:24]
undata nubbins`: that's it [22:24]
nubbins` http://blog.timmattison.com/archives/2014/01/02/compiling-bitcoind-on-the-beaglebone-black/ [22:25]
assbot Compiling Bitcoind on the BeagleBone Black - Tim Mattison ... ( http://bit.ly/1BiXBCz ) [22:25]
nubbins` hm, i may try this [22:25]
undata wouldn't be bad to know the least amount of computer that could reasonably be expected to keep up with the blockchain for a worthwhile amount of time [22:25]
nubbins` straight-up, there's an opportunity to make money selling plug-n-play nodes [22:25]
asciilifeform nubbins`: i have 'openbsd' on one of these. also a little sluggish, though not as dreadful as 'raspberry' [22:25]
undata asciilifeform: what tinyputer do you use? [22:25]
nubbins` sluggish is okay, as long as it works [22:26]
asciilifeform undata: i have a number of them, for various experiments [22:26]
undata asciilifeform: any you consider that merit mention? [22:26]
asciilifeform nubbins`: imho, the best machine would be one which is readily available off the shelf with chassis, power supply, etc. and not require carpentry [22:26]
asciilifeform undata: they are all, as you would expect, rather threadbare. [22:27]
mircea_popescu !up infobel [22:27]
-assbot- You voiced infobel for 30 minutes. [22:27]
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mircea_popescu yeah how's coinroll doing since j-d died ? jurov [22:27]
nubbins` asciilifeform: beaglebone black w/ custom-made btc-branded case, preloaded w/ software and ready to go. Slap it in a plastic clamshell, "babby's first bitcoin node" [22:27]
Apocalyptic asciilifeform, what high end alternative to beagleboard would you recommend, if there is one ? [22:27]
nubbins` walmart will be sellin em this time next year [22:28]
mircea_popescu straight-up, there's an opportunity to make money selling plug-n-play nodes << there is. i'd advertise it. [22:28]
pete_dushenski i wonder if jurov would sell coinroll ? [22:28]
asciilifeform Apocalyptic: depends, for what purpose [22:28]
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nubbins` i'd front some $$ to get it going as well [22:28]
asciilifeform Apocalyptic: if you like 'arm', there are a thousand boards to choose from. [22:28]
nubbins` package and market it right, you could make a tidy sum [22:28]
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nubbins` brb [22:28]
mike_c pete_dushenski: he's a partner, not sole proprietor. [22:29]
mircea_popescu not require carpentry << replacing the soldered-in flash i can see, with the user's choice : 64, 128, we. but other than that, ideally nothing [22:29]
pete_dushenski a well til [22:29]
pete_dushenski mike_c you aren't the other partner are you? [22:29]
mike_c nope [22:29]
Apocalyptic asciilifeform, arm would do, for various experimenting purposes, just something similar in size and with quality components [22:29]
mike_c i want to say namworld, but not sure [22:29]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski iirc, namjies and i dun recall who else had it before [22:30]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: cheapest means of getting a unit with arbitrarily expandable storage is to pick one with usb lines [22:30]
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mircea_popescu or that. [22:30]
pete_dushenski !gettrust namjies [22:30]
assbot namjies is not registered in WoT. [22:30]
kakobrekla namjies == namworld [22:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MG] 100000 @ 0.00009 = 9 BTC [-] [22:31]
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pete_dushenski that's a funny nickname then [22:33]
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undata http://beagleboard.org/black << cool that it has internal storage; it could ship with OS [22:33]
assbot BeagleBoard.org - black ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7VCVl ) [22:33]
undata that plus some external storage [22:33]
mircea_popescu lawl #bitcoin-bra [22:33]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: what would you say is minimal ram for a 0.5.3 node bringup ? [22:34]
kakobrekla youd want 1gig [22:34]
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kakobrekla maybe 500 if system has small footprint [22:34]
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kakobrekla o shit gotta /nick ben_vulpes first [22:35]
asciilifeform 1g is probably not happening on 100 usd. [22:35]
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mircea_popescu i dun think so. 256mb will prolly do it, if slowly. [22:36]
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kakobrekla not in present chicken state but dont mind me what do i know [22:37]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/la-republica-argelina-democratica-y-popular/ [22:37]
mod6 i've got a buddy running it on an aws micro with like 600Mb and it's working, but it runs itself out of ram like 1x per hour. [22:37]
kakobrekla ^^ [22:37]
mod6 s/working/running [22:37]
mod6 ive got a separate vm that has 1Gb of ram and it runs for about a 18-20 hours before it runs out of ram. [22:37]
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nubbins` heheh [22:38]
nubbins` well i mean [22:38]
kakobrekla recall the munin charts i posted [22:38]
nubbins` the amount of ram isn't really the issue [22:38]
mod6 my aws vm has like 2gb of ram and it runs out between 24 - 48 hours [22:38]
nubbins` the inexorable consumption thereof is the issue [22:38]
mod6 yes. [22:38]
undata hah, I had munin on a micro and it'd help take down the instance [22:39]
nubbins` so maybe not design the device around the memory leak [22:39]
undata pile up on itself when the previous cron hadn't finished munging graphs [22:39]
nubbins` so it runs out once an hour? unplug it [22:39]
kakobrekla lol undata [22:39]
nubbins` fuck, kill and restart bitcoind on a timer [22:40]
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nubbins` :P [22:40]
kakobrekla nubbins` thats what i did. [22:40]
asciilifeform ugh [22:40]
mircea_popescu when i said "it'll run" i meant smething like that. [22:40]
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nubbins` then eventually when the real bitcoin core fixes the current memory leaks [22:40]
nubbins` your handy pocket node is already there [22:40]
mircea_popescu yeah, like, once mod6 does it. [22:40]
nubbins` HEH [22:41]
mircea_popescu not before. power fuckers had ~5 years to do it. [22:41]
mircea_popescu did jack. [22:41]
nubbins` that's what i meant [22:41]
mircea_popescu !up infobel [22:41]
-assbot- You voiced infobel for 30 minutes. [22:41]
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nubbins` real = .foundation [22:41]
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infobel tnx Popescu [22:41]
mircea_popescu sure. who're you ? [22:41]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu> did jack. < no leak in newer version, so they actually fixed it [22:41]
nubbins` !up mats [22:42]
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mats ur da best [22:42]
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nubbins` kakobrekla let's see the diffs :D [22:42]
mats re: router discussion, seems to me the obv solution is an OpenWrt 'package' [22:42]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla which one ? [22:42]
mircea_popescu mats prolly something like that. [22:42]
kakobrekla afaik 0.7 has bug 0.8 does not have bug [22:42]
kakobrekla this is from memory [22:42]
mircea_popescu no wai, .8 still leaks. [22:42]
mod6 a few days ago, I had been looking mapOrphanBlocks as a possible reason that it runs itself out of ram as this structure goes unchecked in size in v0.5.3 -- when I was at ~180,000 blocks, these are the stats that I had built up so far: [22:42]
mod6 http://dpaste.com/365FMDC [22:43]
assbot dpaste: 365FMDC ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7X1ex ) [22:43]
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mod6 yeah, i've read on place that they have this leakyness -- crashing problem all the way up to .9 [22:43]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu i cant run .7 for more than a day on system x, runs .8 endlessly [22:43]
mod6 *places [22:43]
kakobrekla .8x where x i dont recall atm [22:43]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu your article's title had me hoping for a deeper explanation into 'oficialismo' ... [22:43]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski lol. im no local expert, i onlybeen here like a year. [22:44]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla a the x may be it. [22:44]
infobel any thoughts on Trezor anybody? [22:44]
mircea_popescu !s trezor [22:44]
assbot 127 results for 'trezor' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trezor [22:44]
PeterL pete_dushenski I tried to put in a fix to scoopbot, he should respond to your blog now, let me know the next time you post something [22:44]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu ok mister, you've got one more year! [22:44]
mircea_popescu 3 years. [22:45]
mod6 well, i could be wrong. i just saw a thing where they were telling some guy running a way forward version that he should add more swap or some such nonsense. but yeah... so it's been in there for a while. [22:45]
pete_dushenski PeterL wunderbar! danke! [22:45]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu 3 more or 3 total ? [22:45]
PeterL well, thank me once it works ;) [22:45]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski tba [22:45]
asciilifeform http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm << x86. but passively cooled, supports fast storage, ~100 usd. [22:45]
assbot PC Engines alix2d2 product file ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7XvRV ) [22:45]
pete_dushenski PeterL lol ok [22:45]
asciilifeform http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm << smaller version of same. [22:46]
assbot PC Engines alix3d2 product file ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7XE7W ) [22:46]
mircea_popescu http://36.media.tumblr.com/61a537228bbfbd79aed85abac6cb524d/tumblr_ng39r5zhn41s9e2ofo1_500.jpg [22:46]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7XD3I ) [22:46]
mod6 awesome pics today :) [22:46]
mats jurov:it's more about acquiring useful muscle memory bits << kung fu is not a system of fighting, its a system of thought. you must outthink your opponent, whatever form he takes... because some of them will be more than just men. [22:46]
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mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/98205cc2e0379b675c31617e77233033/tumblr_ng38y4I2Li1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg there you go mod6 [22:48]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7Y3Hx ) [22:48]
mod6 =) [22:49]
infobel almost legal? :) [22:50]
undata infobel confirmed for cop [22:50]
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mircea_popescu cop a feel ? [22:50]
asciilifeform http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/easyacc/wizard8800?s[]=mips << almost the idea, imho, physical embodiment for a node; but the hero who can stuff node into 32m is not yet born [22:50]
infobel :)) [22:50]
assbot EasyAcc Wi-Stor Wizard 4in1 wireless storage 8800 [OpenWrt Wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7YnG9 ) [22:50]
asciilifeform *ideal [22:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how hard is to field-upgrade these rams ? [22:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: depends whether the address lines are all brought out on the pcb [22:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: often, they are not. [22:51]
mircea_popescu can we look at easyacc schematix ? [22:51]
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mircea_popescu lol that was long lasted [22:52]
mircea_popescu PeterL what's killing it ? dja know ? [22:52]
PeterL oh, that was me restarting it again, be back up in a sec [22:53]
mircea_popescu ah [22:53]
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asciilifeform 'wistor' schematics << chinese have not posted them, it seems, in the usual places. yet. [22:53]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/a0908a7376263961cd2a22f33c2544c1/tumblr_ng35mjck061s9e2ofo1_500.jpg [22:54]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bj0PpJ ) [22:54]
asciilifeform it also appears to be out of production. but i distinctly recall seeing similar gadgets advertised. [22:54]
mircea_popescu meh, oop is no good for us [22:55]
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asciilifeform http://www.openstora.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [22:55]
decimation asciilifeform: there's a guide for booting 'edgerouter lite' with gentoo https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MIPS/ERLite-3 [22:55]
asciilifeform ^ ~35 usd [22:55]
assbot OpenStora ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bj0ZgN ) [22:56]
assbot MIPS/ERLite-3 - Gentoo Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bj104m ) [22:56]
mircea_popescu sounds much better [22:56]
asciilifeform decimation: yes, saw. flaky in may ways. [22:56]
decimation yeah, 'only works' with certain usb drives, and only certain kernels [22:56]
asciilifeform the 'verbatim' appears to be available in massive qty. 802.11+gb eth. [22:56]
asciilifeform 128M ram. [22:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2500 @ 0.00087646 = 2.1912 BTC [-] {18} [22:57]
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ben_vulpes how'd i get almost 800 lines behind in one day!? [22:59]
mircea_popescu chewing tits is my bet. [23:00]
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thestringpuller lol [23:04]
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asciilifeform http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/kingston/mlw221 << interesting [23:04]
assbot Kingston Mobilelite Wireless MLW221 [OpenWrt Wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1E80yt9 ) [23:04]
asciilifeform http://wiki.openwrt.org/_detail/media/mlw221-02.jpg?id=toh%3Akingston%3Amlw221 << instead of shielding the wireless card, as traditional... [23:04]
assbot media:mlw221-02.jpg [OpenWrt Wiki] [23:04]
asciilifeform ~50 usd. [23:05]
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Apocalyptic mircea, re http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/ , great piece [23:17]
assbot Why "representative democracy" doesn't work and doesn't make sense pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bj38sL ) [23:17]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu, anyone else still awake: 'pogoplug' - 256MB ram; ~25 usd. [23:27]
asciilifeform gigabit ethernet. [23:28]
asciilifeform 128mb version, 15 usd. [23:28]
asciilifeform quite certainly parachutable behind enemy lines. [23:28]
asciilifeform !s liberator pistol [23:28]
assbot 0 results for 'liberator pistol' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=liberator+pistol [23:28]
asciilifeform was certain we spoke of it at one point [23:29]
Apocalyptic asciilifeform, out of these thousands boards to chose from, know any that features a Cortex-A57 CPU ? [23:29]
asciilifeform Apocalyptic: can't say from memory alone, i'm not an arm aficionado [23:29]
Apocalyptic alright, from what I got so far the ODROID-U2 looks decent, with a Cortex-A9 though [23:30]
asciilifeform Apocalyptic: what are you building ? [23:30]
jurov lolwut coinroll [23:31]
jurov pete_dushenski: it does kinda have pimp..er..affiliate program now [23:31]
jurov negotiate with namworld [23:31]
Apocalyptic asciilifeform, nothing in particular, just want to play with a board having a powerful CPU [23:32]
pete_dushenski jurov intriguing... [23:32]
jurov btw what about odroid? or it's turd? [23:32]
pete_dushenski ;;seen namworld [23:32]
gribble namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 5 days, 5 hours, 42 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: That's 888poker [23:32]
asciilifeform 'pogoplug' may actually be the cheapest linux box presently sold. [23:33]
asciilifeform turns out. [23:33]
kakobrekla sez 50$ a year [23:33]
asciilifeform a year if you buy their idiot chumpcloud thing [23:33]
asciilifeform so far, as i understand, the hardware is a loss-leader. [23:33]
kakobrekla you have other source? [23:33]
asciilifeform hence it is exactly what we want. [23:33]
asciilifeform let the morons pay. [23:33]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: one can buy the gadget without subscribing to the idiocy [23:34]
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kakobrekla weird [23:34]
jurov it's faster than rpi? [23:34]
asciilifeform jurov: not certain, as i've not tested it. but rpi had an uncommonly slow usb controller. [23:35]
jurov rumor has it that it has even slower i/o [23:35]
asciilifeform http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=2110 [23:36]
assbot Arch Linux ARM • View topic - Pogoplug Series 4 - Hardware CPU / Memory RAM ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bj50BT ) [23:36]
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asciilifeform they have sata jacks as well. [23:36]
jurov but..128 ram? [23:36]
asciilifeform anyone who can scavenge a laptop drive, can use. [23:36]
asciilifeform 128m promises to be tight, to say the least, with current 0.5.3.x [23:37]
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asciilifeform the older 'pogoplug' actually shipped with 256m. [23:38]
asciilifeform for, iirc, the same cost. [23:38]
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jurov amazon sells them between $20-$60 depending on version [23:40]
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asciilifeform jurov: their 'p22' appears to ship with 256m. ~25 usd. [23:42]
asciilifeform again, i have not tried these machines. [23:42]
asciilifeform jurov, ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu - if one of you presently has a 0.5.3.x in a vm, try running under hard constraint of 128 or 256m. see when croaks. [23:44]
mod6 i'll put it on the list here... [23:54]
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