Forum logs for 23 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mod6 ok running with 128mb ram [00:15]
mod6 [00:18]
assbot dpaste: 1EPVKEK ... ( ) [00:18]
pete_dushenski so it's working alright or... ? [00:29]
mod6 [00:31]
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mod6 up to 68,xxx blocks.... [00:31]
mod6 still going [00:31]
mod6 90xxx [00:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00048049 = 4.0121 BTC [-] [00:45]
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mod6 here's some vm info: [01:03]
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mod6 102xxx [01:03]
ben_vulpes [01:05]
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asciilifeform mod6, ben_vulpes: as i understand, if the hypothetical node has a working oomkill mechanism, it will - mostly - run without intervention [01:06]
ben_vulpes i'm not entirely up to date on the thread, asciilifeform [01:07]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu posed a question re: what might be the cheapest reasonably-compact machine that will run 0.5.3. [01:08]
mod6 it would be neat-o to see this run on some sort of commercial router with a large flash-rom in there. [01:09]
asciilifeform mod6: i picked up the sata-enabled 'pogo', will devote an hour or two to giving it a shot this weekend. [01:09]
asciilifeform mod6: ~20 usd [01:10]
ben_vulpes now there's an interesting notion [01:11]
mod6 cool. in this case, im running v0.5.3[base]+patches{1,rm_rf_upnp,2,3,4,6(db_config),unreleased-version-update-patch} [01:11]
mod6 in my most recent regression tests ( this past week, i've been leaving out the rm_checkpoints patch ) [01:12]
mod6 and so should you. I'll be tabling that, updating the "Patch guide" and pulling the tarball with that patch down from the website as soon as my other vm hits current block. [01:12]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6: one patch that probably needs to happen in time for the 'fork war' is manual seed config. [01:13]
asciilifeform right now there are, iirc, hardcoded - and possibly phoundation-subvertable - seeds. [01:13]
asciilifeform ditto for the irc mechanism (is that still in 0.5.3 ?) [01:13]
mod6 here's a script that will build everything without the rm_checkpoints patch, with exception to the version number update: [01:13]
mod6 [01:13]
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mod6 asciilifeform: irc stuff is still in there. [01:14]
mod6 basically; patches include so far, your patches, ben's rm UPNP & the bdb config update patches. [01:15]
mod6 -s [01:15]
mircea_popescu 'pogoplug' eh ? [01:17]
asciilifeform cheapasdirtoplug [01:18]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: jurov, ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu - if one of you presently has a 0.5.3.x in a vm, try running under hard constraint of 128 or 256m. see when croaks. << it doesn't croak if it has the blockchain prebuilt, that part's for sure. [01:19]
asciilifeform << unit in photo is the ~$12 version sans sata [01:20]
assbot PogoPlug Mobile - ... ( ) [01:20]
mircea_popescu << yeah yeah, they've been aiming at the toilet for three years now. [01:21]
mircea_popescu still have to unpucker the cock enough for as much as a dribble to come out [01:21]
mats hmm...added to my toy wish list [01:21]
mircea_popescu damned prostatis [01:21]
mod6 110k [01:24]
mircea_popescu did it crash yet ? [01:24]
mod6 nope. grindin' on. [01:24]
mod6 typically i see my first crash around 180k [01:25]
mircea_popescu i think it's more in the 230k ish range that there's some large reorgs [01:25]
mircea_popescu or that. [01:25]
mod6 but, this is 10% of the memory i'm used to runing with [01:25]
mod6 *running [01:25]
asciilifeform mod6: crash or oomkill ? [01:25]
mod6 so, color me suprised [01:25]
mod6 oom SIGKILL [01:26]
asciilifeform aha. [01:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it doesn't actually crash-crash, not really. [01:26]
mod6 mp: yeah, it definatly hits a slowdown from like 180k->270k [01:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mine certainly did not. leaks? yes. [01:26]
mircea_popescu right. [01:26]
mircea_popescu anyway, mod6 ben_vulpes : asciilifeform has a point, it'd be ideal if this can be wrapped up with a foundation blessed bitcoin core, and one that has the bad seed model snipped out ideally. [01:27]
mircea_popescu this is the ender of worlds, as it were. [01:28]
mod6 so noted. [01:28]
mircea_popescu once there's a million dollar worth of them in the wild, "upgrading" bitcoin is this good joke. [01:28]
asciilifeform i have a 0.8 node that does crash quarterly or so. bitcoin-msghand[15569]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000blahblah sp 0000blahblahblah error 4 in bitcoind[400000+303000] [01:28]
asciilifeform for a few years now. [01:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i really never looked at anything they pushed out after the hearn fork. [01:28]
asciilifeform (how long has 8 been around? forgot) [01:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: trick is to get them out and plugged in, it would appear [01:29]
mircea_popescu that won't be mnuch of a problem, once we have a coherent story wrapped up. [01:30]
mircea_popescu and mind you that i do NOT mean linux level of coherence. [01:30]
mircea_popescu i mean osx level of coherence. [01:30]
asciilifeform if seriously contemplating this, it is absolutely essential that 'the sapper not err' [01:30]
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mircea_popescu error being defined as, "doesn't work" [01:30]
asciilifeform or phoundationfuckable [01:30]
mircea_popescu im not really worried about that. [01:30]
asciilifeform see earlier observation re: irc seeding [01:30]
mircea_popescu they're too dumb to count. [01:30]
asciilifeform they - sure. what of their master ? [01:31]
mircea_popescu just get it to where mrmike can run one. [01:31]
mircea_popescu their master is fresh out of stupid school. [01:31]
asciilifeform incidentally, if these are also to function as 'wallets'... i haven't any notion of whether, e.g., 'pogo', even has an rng. [01:31]
mircea_popescu nah. [01:32]
mircea_popescu no wallet at all. [01:32]
asciilifeform that's sane. but what luser will plug it in? 'wats in it fer me' [01:32]
mircea_popescu this is going to be a mempool "miner". [01:32]
mircea_popescu everyone will. [01:32]
* asciilifeform assumes mircea_popescu has a plan [01:32]
mircea_popescu i have a great plan. and if it doesn't work, that's ok. [01:33]
mircea_popescu i have another. [01:33]
mircea_popescu to quote marx. [01:33]
asciilifeform !b 3 [01:33]
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mircea_popescu i bought myself all sorts of excellent cheeses today, from this very competent deli [01:34]
mod6 nice [01:35]
mircea_popescu now my house smells like No Personal Higiene High athletic team had been camping out all week [01:35]
* asciilifeform spends more on cheese than on bandwidth, electronics, fuel put together [01:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know the cheese shop sketch ? [01:36]
asciilifeform nein [01:36]
mircea_popescu [01:37]
assbot Monty Python - Cheese Shop - YouTube ... ( ) [01:37]
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decimation asciilifeform: there was a cheese shop in downtown dc called 'cowgirl creamery' that closed down [01:44]
decimation did you ever go there? [01:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8386 @ 0.00048049 = 4.0294 BTC [-] [01:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2101 @ 0.00087762 = 1.8439 BTC [-] {4} [01:50]
mircea_popescu decimation i thought that was a san francisco outfit. [01:51]
decimation I think it is, they tried to open a shop in wash dc [01:54]
decimation didn't work out well [01:54]
mircea_popescu ah [01:55]
mircea_popescu the thing is, us folk, and especially midwesterners (which is what washington is, in spite of all pretense) have very VERY bland tastes and a taste for blandness. [01:56]
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mircea_popescu cheese's not really their thing. what passes for "sharp" cheddar in washington dc is in fact barely more than cream fraiche. [01:56]
asciilifeform decimation: yes, it existed. did go once. [01:57]
asciilifeform us folk... have very VERY bland tastes and a taste for blandness << yes! [01:57]
asciilifeform it is astonishing. [01:58]
mircea_popescu "take this food away, it... it... it almost TASTES of something!!1" [01:58]
mircea_popescu yet another aspect of neoteny. [01:59]
scoopbot Yeah, I don't like pete_dushenski much. [02:04]
pete_dushenski haha! [02:04]
mircea_popescu lol [02:04]
mircea_popescu he's a poopyhead eh scoopbot ? [02:04]
pete_dushenski he's a bit of a fucker for sure [02:05]
pete_dushenski [02:05]
assbot How the adage “time is money” and the existence of Google+ prove that Facebook is worth less than dust. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [02:05]
mircea_popescu [02:05]
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asciilifeform lol, seems like 'pogo' was behind that ridiculous tor thing - [02:05]
assbot Pogoplug Safeplug review – anonymous browsing instantly | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generation ... ( ) [02:05]
pete_dushenski alrighty then, off the go be fit and whatnot. later assets! [02:05]
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asciilifeform not enough uptake on their 'cloud storage' sc4m, so they tried another angle. [02:06]
mod6 117k [02:06]
asciilifeform (the way the device is priced, it is almost certainly a loss-leader) [02:06]
mircea_popescu not for long. [02:08]
asciilifeform l0l [02:08]
mircea_popescu no srsly, the way computiong works, no loss leader stays a loss leader for long. [02:09]
mircea_popescu how do you think moore's law even came to be ? [02:09]
asciilifeform well yes. eventually - splat. [02:09]
scoopbot Yeah, I don't like pete_dushenski much. [02:09]
asciilifeform (cost of production drops, sure, but eventually hits barriers that have nothing much to do with semiconductors) [02:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the xbox was a loss leader. heck, the 94 playstation was a loss leader [02:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: probably among the most famous examples thereof [02:10]
mircea_popescu well... [02:10]
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scoopbot Yeah, I don't like pete_dushenski much. [02:15]
mircea_popescu ... [02:15]
scoopbot Yeah, I don't like pete_dushenski much. [02:20]
mod6 haha wat [02:20]
mircea_popescu pete revenge-hacked scoopbot [02:21]
asciilifeform mod6: a few days ago, I had been looking mapOrphanBlocks as a possible reason that it runs itself out << see my earlier 'valgrind' experiments. [02:24]
asciilifeform !s valgrind [02:24]
assbot 26 results for 'valgrind' : [02:24]
mod6 i'll have to look back. i spent a bunch of time running gdb & valgrind earlier in the month. [02:25]
scoopbot Yeah, I don't like pete_dushenski much. [02:25]
mod6 i'll hvae to take a look at your results. [02:25]
asciilifeform mod6: linked somewhere in there. [02:26]
mod6 thx ascii [02:26]
mircea_popescu mod6 do you know right off what's the logic that deems an orphan chain no longer worth tracking ? [02:30]
mircea_popescu "another chain at least 120 blocks longer" or something sane like that ? [02:30]
scoopbot Yeah, I don't like pete_dushenski much. [02:30]
mircea_popescu !down scoopbot [02:31]
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mod6 I don't have a good answer for that atm. [02:33]
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decimation re: midwestern blandness < yes, it's a weird phenomenon. try going to an indian restaurant in say, chicago, and have them give you an average level of spice [02:33]
decimation and washington dc is definitely a midwestern city - where else are people going to get jobs? ohio? [02:34]
mircea_popescu ah, spice is a different story tho. they can eat pretty hot, especially in the se. [02:34]
mircea_popescu but! flavour and hotness are different. flavour's a billion different sulphides, alcohols, aromatics etc [02:35]
mircea_popescu hotness is half a dozen capseins. [02:35]
decimation yeah that's true [02:35]
mod6 in v0.5.3, afaik, it looks for dups, then (with checkpoints) it checks to see if the block has a timestamp previous to the last checkpoint, then if it can't find a prev block it puts it in a holding area until one is found. [02:36]
mircea_popescu checkpoint only ? [02:37]
mircea_popescu that's pretty dumb. [02:37]
mod6 Lastly, it recursively processes any orphan blocks that are depended on it, and deletes them from the map. [02:37]
mod6 In later versions, they have a cap of 750 blocks max for the orphan map iirc. [02:38]
asciilifeform SetBestChain(....) [02:38]
asciilifeform main.cpp [02:38]
asciilifeform and its call graph. [02:38]
* asciilifeform lazy [02:38]
* mod6 looks [02:39]
decimation re: winklevoss exchange << << well, I guess that explains what they are going to do [02:40]
assbot Logged on 07-08-2014 19:08:21; decimation: the question is: if this isn't a scam, where are they going to trade bitcoin? [02:40]
asciilifeform bool CBlock::SetBestChain(CTxDB& txdb, CBlockIndex* pindexNew) [02:40]
mod6 for those following along: [02:42]
assbot bitcoin/main.cpp at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( ) [02:42]
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mod6 122k [02:57]
asciilifeform << 'pogo' [03:00]
assbot ... ( ) [03:00]
mod6 so if the new block is not the genesis block, and the new blocks prev hash != best chain hash, run Reorganize [03:06]
mod6 which is worth a look [03:06]
mod6 [03:06]
assbot bitcoin/main.cpp at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( ) [03:07]
asciilifeform 88f6180 << see esp. pp. 290. unit can be force-fed firmware through uart during boot, whether board manufacturer wants it or not. [03:08]
asciilifeform trivial 'jailbreak'. [03:09]
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asciilifeform not necessary as they are currently offered, but if they're a loss-leader and mircea_popescu buys 10,000 of them... [03:09]
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asciilifeform pp. 297 has the actual magic string. [03:11]
asciilifeform 'If the bootROM detects the 64-bit UART boot pattern (0xBB 0x11 0x22 0x33 0x44 0x55 0x66 0x77) injected by the user, as an indication to start the Xmodem protocol and the UART boot process); it configures the appropriate MPPs to operate as UA0_RXD and UA0_TXD, as in the previous sub-section and starts the Xmodem protocol to load the image from UART to the DDR.' [03:11]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. [03:16]
mod6 @ block 1236XX i'll have to check back in on it in the am. [03:17]
mod6 ill give another update on it then. [03:18]
mod6 g'night Gentlemen. [03:20]
mircea_popescu In later versions, they have a cap of 750 blocks max for the orphan map iirc. << yes, and it's idiotic. [04:00]
mircea_popescu a 900 block long orphan that's 5 blocks shorter than the main chai nshould not be discarded. [04:00]
mircea_popescu a 2 block orphan that's 122 blocks shorter than the main chain is never going to be main. [04:00]
mircea_popescu (never = not anymore, since gavin is no longer in a position to merge hearnidiocy in any significant manner) [04:01]
mircea_popescu which is worth a look << that, it is. [04:02]
mircea_popescu << btw this is one hell of a film. [04:02]
assbot Oscar pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [04:02]
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mircea_popescu "In the year of '61, we left our native land, 'cause we could not bend our spirits to the tyrant's stern command. So we rallied 'round our Buckner, while our hearts were sad and sore, to offer our blood for freedom as our fathers did before...." [05:06]
mircea_popescu check it out... [05:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00048563 = 14.3261 BTC [+] [05:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00048563 = 7.3816 BTC [+] [05:20]
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davout [05:38]
davout "Once we picked our name, a fun fact emerged." [05:38]
davout "We realized we were also twins" [05:38]
mircea_popescu ... [05:41]
mircea_popescu "retards embarassing themselves" hour ? [05:41]
mircea_popescu What exactly do we mean by “next generation”? We mean a fully regulated, fully compliant, New York-based bitcoin exchange for both individuals and institutions alike. [05:42]
mircea_popescu mkay. shove your aml. [05:42]
mircea_popescu davout in other news, rewatching oscar i had the pleasure to expose anglophone ear to the delices of "ta maman / ton amant / demander ta main". no differences could be perceived. [05:47]
davout hh [05:48]
mircea_popescu "it's the same damned thing!" [05:49]
davout all the americans i know trying to learn french had a problem with "mon cul", "ma queue", "mon cou" [05:49]
mircea_popescu mon cul / mon cou is certainly in the same position :D [05:50]
davout my butt, my dick, my neck [05:50]
davout they just can't say the sounds, sounds all the same to them [05:50]
mircea_popescu i think queue has a sharper k which is actually perceptible [05:50]
mircea_popescu maybe you're saying it wrong :D [05:51]
davout no i think there's something to this [05:51]
mircea_popescu lol [05:51]
mircea_popescu meanwhile at the other end of the spectrum, argentine spanish spekers can not actually distinguish b, p v and f [05:52]
mircea_popescu on a conceptual basis, this. [05:52]
mircea_popescu fanfare could just as well be panvare [05:53]
mircea_popescu i think they work on the basis of about five consonants and that's it [05:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00048563 = 8.6199 BTC [+] [05:54]
davout the b == v is pretty interesting [05:57]
davout makes spanish sound like the php of languages [05:57]
mircea_popescu lol i guess it may well be [06:05]
punkman b==v confuses me a lot [06:13]
punkman s==es is kinda fun, do the argentines do that? [06:14]
mircea_popescu uh which one is that ? [06:15]
punkman like they can't say spain, stella, etc [06:15]
mircea_popescu nah, the dropped e is a french specialty. [06:16]
punkman I mean they add a vowel in front of words starting with s [06:19]
mircea_popescu salud is salud. [06:19]
punkman hmm indeed [06:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00048034 = 13.6897 BTC [-] [06:27]
mircea_popescu heh, there's actually a us felony charge of "maintaining a dwelling." [06:30]
punkman as in stash house? [06:31]
mircea_popescu apparently. [06:31]
mircea_popescu dude the argentina drama... [06:41]
davout what's a 'stash house' ? [06:42]
mircea_popescu so now the president is claiming that the evil guys (unspecified) that made the da guy falsely claim she's involved in destrtoying the trial of the iranian terrorists that blew up the jews, also killed him, to make her look even worse! [06:42]
mircea_popescu this could be in a book. [06:42]
mircea_popescu davout the usians are insane. it is apparently a crime to have a house where there are drugs. [06:42]
mircea_popescu except it's a meaningless ofence nobody prosecutes seriously, because it can get the jury to waste time / negotiate a conviction down, and the punishments are minor anyway. [06:43]
mircea_popescu ie, you won't get a conviction on it straight ; if you're also prosecuting other indictments it can either blow up, ruin your other counts or at most succeed for no benefit, as it'll get rolled into the other counts. [06:44]
mircea_popescu meanwhile in the other pole of insanity, [06:44]
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assbot French court convicts three over homophobic tweets, in case hailed as a 'significant victory' by LGBT rights campaigners - Europe - World - The Independent [06:44]
davout #twiterristasmustdie yo [06:48]
davout i'm so fucking cold [06:48]
mircea_popescu actually, no. just, the french civil service must die. [06:49]
mircea_popescu preferably, through slow anal bleeding. [06:49]
davout dudes changing windows in your living room means your windows remain open for a couple hours while it's freezing outside [06:49]
davout french civil service... [06:49]
mircea_popescu hm ? [06:50]
mircea_popescu holy shit abdullah died. [06:50]
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davout french civil service is this kind office where the late-comers greet the early-leavers in the stairwell [06:52]
mircea_popescu davout hang the lot. [06:53]
mircea_popescu anyway, enough excitement for one night. [06:54]
davout that's too sweet a punishment [06:54]
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ben_vulpes buenos dias mis pirómanos [13:28]
ben_vulpes me, i'm more of a city type. << glasses off, eyes down. [13:34]
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mircea_popescu and well shaved. [13:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67000 @ 0.000473 = 31.691 BTC [-] {3} [13:37]
ben_vulpes whoa nijotz dropped by? [13:39]
ben_vulpes nijotz: you know this place is full of women hate and racism right? [13:40]
ben_vulpes exploitation, objectification, the whole lot [13:40]
ben_vulpes you'll tar your good name in here [13:40]
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ben_vulpes no wallet at all. << precisely this. [13:45]
mircea_popescu who's he ? [13:45]
mircea_popescu !up nijotz [13:46]
-assbot- You voiced nijotz for 30 minutes. [13:46]
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nijotz ah ty [13:46]
nijotz was trying to preach about niggercunts [13:46]
ben_vulpes oh no voice yet? [13:46]
mircea_popescu the who ? [13:46]
ben_vulpes !rate nijotz 1 dis guy i know [13:47]
assbot nijotz is not registered in WoT. [13:47]
mircea_popescu ;;seen petterl [13:47]
nijotz >you'll tar your good name [13:47]
gribble I have not seen petterl. [13:47]
ben_vulpes paha [13:47]
mircea_popescu ;;seen peterl [13:47]
gribble peterl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 hours, 54 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: oh, that was me restarting it again, be back up in a sec [13:47]
nijotz It's a good thing I don't have one [13:47]
ben_vulpes make a new one [13:47]
ben_vulpes keys are cheap [13:47]
davout punkman: re bitcoinmagazine, this galippi quote is slightly confusing then: "We’re extremely proud of Bitcoin Magazine’s accomplishments, but know that we’ve only scratched the surface. The opportunity to join forces with BTC Media’s extremely capable and visionary team was the strategic move we needed to fully realize our potential." [13:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.10000815 = 3.0002 BTC [+] {7} [13:54]
mircea_popescu lmao srsly ? re-re-re starting that dead fish ? [13:56]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bingoboingo now that pair is actually trying to resurect bitcoin magazine again, a blow by blow history of exactly how bitpay & the scam foundation stole that magazine from its owners a coupla years ago would be quite topical. the forum's got a pile of posts, see vladimir's stuff, maybe even interview him. [13:57]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:57]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: valdimir? [14:14]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: pair was never in charage of btcmagazine iirc it was all tony [14:14]
mircea_popescu pair is the bitpay ceo. vladimir is, as far as i know, the owner of btc magazine [14:14]
mircea_popescu notwithstanding pretenses to the contrary. [14:15]
davout wasn't he the guy that actually started it ? [14:15]
mircea_popescu (mihai alisie being teh turning stone on that bi of theft) [14:15]
assbot Ciuciu Bond pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [14:15]
mircea_popescu davout yeah. [14:16]
ben_vulpes << totally never doable in the states [14:16]
assbot Oz father and son team plan suborbital spaceplane • The Register ... ( ) [14:16]
mircea_popescu he started it, then the office gofer ran off with the keys,. [14:16]
thestringpuller it was always a scam tho [14:16]
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mircea_popescu !up saifedean [14:16]
-assbot- You voiced saifedean for 30 minutes. [14:16]
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ben_vulpes << probably just pornography, a la the logs for this place [14:18]
assbot Major breakthrough in reading ancient scrolls -- ScienceDaily ... ( ) [14:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00048532 = 8.3475 BTC [+] {2} [14:19]
ben_vulpes also not really a breakthrough until the text's been parsed, but whaddaya want from "science" these days. [14:19]
mircea_popescu bring in the hate. [14:19]
assbot The godfather pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [14:19]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell pete_dushenski << i still don't see why you need that boat when you could have something pretty looking and leggy [14:19]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:20]
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mircea_popescu boat better for fucking in. [14:20]
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ben_vulpes !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.nijotz.1:2d059de0adbebaa481f0efb6ce77cf7ff0034a39cd7cc5f8051ee8d4f8654833 [14:21]
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ben_vulpes you and your car fetish [14:21]
ben_vulpes gearshift can be a fun toy [14:21]
TomServo [14:21]
assbot Tailgating - Lost Highway (Lynch) - YouTube ... ( ) [14:21]
mircea_popescu it's not a car fetish if you're not fucking the car@ [14:21]
TomServo (front passenger is named Pete, coincidentally) [14:22]
ben_vulpes excuses excuses [14:22]
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mircea_popescu great TomServo :D [14:24]
punkman mircea_popescu: bring in the hate. << lol "Deux Ex Fucking Puzzina" [14:24]
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punkman I watched it recently, didn't care for it [14:24]
mircea_popescu it's incredible what people end up having their careers built on. [14:25]
mircea_popescu without that, neither al nor francis'd hjave been heard of, perhaps. and yet... [14:25]
punkman made me realize how retarded IMDB ratings are actually [14:25]
mircea_popescu what's this, 10 ? [14:25]
mircea_popescu 11 ? [14:25]
punkman I think it was #1 [14:25]
mircea_popescu i meant 11/10 [14:26]
punkman it's #2 apparently [14:26]
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mircea_popescu punkman: fake boyfriends that is << the trouble with an actual boyfriend is that he just might make you a woman [14:41]
mircea_popescu and girls generally dun wanna be women anymore than boys actually wanna be men. [14:41]
mircea_popescu assbot: Bitcoin (and Blockchain) | Andreessen Horowitz ... << lmao horowitz ALSO wishes to be first best biggest ? [14:42]
mircea_popescu these idiots just won't read, will they. [14:42]
mircea_popescu "why should i figure out how actual history flowed when i can just make up an imaginary history for myself! not like the same exact processes are going to repeat themselves or anything.... I CAN DO WHAT I WANT! The world outside my head doesn't really exist! " [14:43]
mircea_popescu "so what if mp said in 2012 that we have a littlew time left and in 2013 that our time ran out. WE ARE STARTING THE COUNT IN 2014! So there!" [14:44]
mircea_popescu davout: so TIL that coindesk belongs to shakil kan, investor in bitpay and kraken, and that bitcoinmagazine now belongs to bitpay (through some entity of which galippi has a stake in) << lawl. [14:47]
mircea_popescu yes, they been working butt off to buy relevancy in the space. modest results. [14:47]
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ben_vulpes punkman: fake boyfriends that is << the trouble with an actual boyfriend is that he just might make you a woman << just what distinguishes women from girls? [14:49]
punkman "He also started to charge BitTalk Media at a rate of 80 GBP per hour for the time required to respond to messages and emails that asked for clarifications and actions regarding these company assets.  Even more, he was paying himself for the time that was required to pay himself. All these actions lead towards considering him as a rogue/hostile shareholder." [14:50]
mircea_popescu punkman actual term of law, "rogue/hostile shareholder" dontchaknow. [14:50]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes do you know what's the difference between a useful employee and a dweeb with no understanding of anything that's going to "totally revolutionize the way you do business" ? [14:51]
ben_vulpes myeah i can smell that. [14:51]
ben_vulpes hm. [14:51]
mircea_popescu okay. it's a similar thing for women. a girl "thinks she migh have been raped". a woman is slightly bemused at your apparent expectation that taking her clothes off puts HER at a disadvantage. [14:52]
punkman mircea_popescu: punkman actual term of law, "rogue/hostile shareholder" dontchaknow. < it is? [14:52]
mircea_popescu punkman no, i'm mocking the dweebs [14:52]
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mircea_popescu the entire nonsense shows a ridoinculous unfamiliarity with what isbeingdiscussed and what the forms involved are. [14:56]
mircea_popescu like fifteen year old "businessmen" in the ghetto. [14:56]
ben_vulpes okay. it's a similar thing for women. a girl "thinks she migh have been raped". a woman is slightly bemused at your apparent expectation that taking her clothes off puts HER at a disadvantage. << huh. [14:56]
mircea_popescu punkman: wtf was this thing "Coin Publishing LLC is collectively owned by individuals owning or working at BitPay, Butterfly Labs, Google, Casascius, 20 Mission, and Virtual Processing Solutions." << this thing was the cartel. [14:57]
mircea_popescu back when we arrayed forces, in 2012, there were a lot more of them. [14:57]
mircea_popescu not so many left, and i'm not done. [14:57]
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mircea_popescu heh [15:16]
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ben_vulpes quick poll: stehpinklers or sitzpinklers? [15:28]
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ben_vulpes Kushed: you're flapping. [15:33]
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assbot /cryptsy DRK/XRP market shows the top bid higher than the top ask. How/why is that happening? [15:34]
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fluffypony lol [15:35]
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mats [15:52]
assbot EUR/USD Technical Analysis: Passing on Short for Now | DailyFX [15:52]
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mats idk why i keep reading HN comments about BTC related things [16:04]
mats i am massively disappointed every time [16:05]
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asciilifeform pete_dushenski: your cloak doesn't work. [16:07]
mats too late, drone is en route [16:08]
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assbot Warren Buffett said Bitcoins are a mirage and I agree. They are worthless hashe... | Hacker News ... ( ) [16:08]
asciilifeform trololol [16:09]
mats "cash is a mirage and i agree. they are worthless cotton" [16:09]
mats b-brilliant. [16:10]
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mod6 it died finally. [16:24]
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mats block? [16:33]
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mats *block number? [16:33]
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mod6 it easily lasted 12-14 hours. made it up to height=136572 [16:38]
mod6 im not going to continue this sync, unless requested. i think that's a decent demonstration [16:38]
mod6 with 128mb ram [16:38]
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assbot Thousands of U.S. gas stations exposed to Internet attacks | CSO Online ... ( ) [16:54]
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TomServo Not sure why an ATG would have it's own internet facing connection, rather than ride on the gas stations' network. [17:02]
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assbot gsuberland comments on The Internet of Gas Station Tank Gauges - thousands of tank gauges on open Internet ... ( ) [17:04]
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mats >found a couple of air purifiers on Shodan ... Turns out they were biochem air purifiers that provided negative pressure in a BSL3 lab ... Turning them off or reversing their direction ... was possible, according to a manual I found [17:06]
mats >> "BSL-3 is suitable for work with infectious agents which may cause serious or potentially lethal diseases as a result of exposure by the inhalation route... Examples of agents that should be manipulated at BSL-3 are M. tuberculosis St. Louis [17:08]
mats encephalitis virus, and Coxiella burnetii" [17:08]
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mats brilliant. [17:08]
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danielpbarron I picked up some funny negative ratings in the tardstalk WoT over the woodcollector scam [17:37]
danielpbarron So obvious he is a sock puppet. i would highly advise against not only doing business with this account, but engaging in any kind of conversation with this weirdo. [17:37]
danielpbarron Another sock puppet possible purchased account of Nubbins / Paul Revere. Also a ranting and raving Jesus humping Bible thumping verifiable crazy person it appears. Stay clear of this one for sure. [17:37]
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asciilifeform sc4mz0rz in 'tilt mode' are so very entertaining. [17:38]
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TomServo [18:00]
assbot This, no joke, is the coffee shop where a bunch of reporters have been hanging out during Ross Ulbricht's trial [18:00]
TomServo It's called "Silkroad Place", HA! [18:00]
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asciilifeform mats: net-connected air filters, etc. << the 'hammurabic' punishment for having built such a thing ought to be, perhaps, to be placed in a net-connected electric chair for a few days. can be turned on by, e.g., an snmp packet. [18:09]
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davout ping [18:12]
asciilifeform kbzzzzz. [18:12]
kakobrekla now it doesnt resolve anymore [18:13]
davout m [18:14]
davout you used too painful command line options [18:14]
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davout til the meninist movement is a thing [18:17]
davout !up cazalla [18:19]
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cazalla ty, no scoopbot around so [18:20]
assbot Amid Domain Name Hijacking, CoinFire's Alleged SEC Source Is Revealed | ... ( ) [18:20]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform net-connected electric chair for << haha! [18:21]
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pete_dushenski davout meninist = menonite feminists ? [18:22]
davout what's menonite? [18:22]
pete_dushenski it's a anti-tech christian [18:23]
pete_dushenski small rural clans, farmers mostly [18:23]
davout today i keep learning [18:23]
mats the claim re: SEC source seems dubious on its face [18:23]
pete_dushenski a new group splits off as soon as population >150 [18:23]
kakobrekla i thought menonite is amish [18:24]
kakobrekla or relative to. [18:24]
pete_dushenski pretty much [18:24]
pete_dushenski oh, it's two n's --> mennonite [18:24]
pete_dushenski well, 3 total [18:24]
TomServo So what's a meninist then? [18:25]
cazalla mats, well, i included alleged but if the attacker managed to take their domain and twitter account from them, it wouldn't surprise me if sec source name is true, i'm not claiming that anyway, just reporting on what was said [18:25]
davout i understand as the same thing as a feminist but for men [18:25]
davout *understand it [18:25]
TomServo oh [18:26]
mats cazalla: ic [18:26]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell ben_vulpes i'm not really a convertible guy. if i was going to one-up myself, i'd go for the bulletproof 560 sel [18:29]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:29]
assbot MERCEDES-BENZ 560 Saloon for sale in Marylebone | Auto Trader ... ( ) [18:29]
asciilifeform 'Currently, an individual's cyber behavior is not checked during the security clearance investigative and adjudicative process because legal and privacy limits have not been clearly defined... ... Because the Army's demographic includes many young Soldiers, security clearance investigations often cover a shorter period of time... ... While this poses some risks, the overwhelming majority of these Soldiers have proven that they [18:29]
asciilifeform are not a security risk.' << mega-lol << (pp. 31) [18:29]
pete_dushenski i mean, who doesn't want 3" thick windows on their car? [18:29]
mats shipping container on wheels [18:30]
pete_dushenski precious cargo [18:30]
davout lol [18:30]
asciilifeform the fastest, thickest, most luxurious car is --- not having to go places. [18:30]
davout asciilifeform: you meant the bestestest [18:31]
ben_vulpes man you are *lazy* [18:31]
ben_vulpes allergic to the outdoors or something? [18:31]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform that lack of cloak ealier would explain why my internet went down 3! times this morning, oh so conveniently every time i tried to log on. [18:31]
asciilifeform love the outdoors. [18:31]
asciilifeform how much outdoors does one get inside car. [18:31]
ben_vulpes one must get to the place one wants to be, though. [18:32]
asciilifeform not if you live there? [18:32]
TomServo pete_dushenski: is your client auto-joining #b-a? [18:32]
pete_dushenski you can't live everywhere you want to be... [18:32]
pete_dushenski TomServo yes. [18:32]
davout i love the outdoors, as long as it stays outdoors [18:32]
asciilifeform some folks do live where they want to be. [18:33]
asciilifeform iirc, mircea_popescu doesn't drive. [18:33]
davout he cheats, he gets driven around [18:33]
pete_dushenski mp still takes taxis [18:33]
pete_dushenski right [18:33]
TomServo pete_dushenski: Likely the cause of the failed cloak.. it doesn't activate until you've authed with services. [18:33]
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pete_dushenski TomServo aha well that'd do it. [18:33]
asciilifeform and now we know that ddosbot is still here. [18:34]
pete_dushenski i was trying a client called scam or something... ah snak, that was it [18:34]
pete_dushenski great layout and big fonts but it doesn't store the nickserv info [18:35]
davout asciilifeform: my connection pretty much *always* gets beaten to a pulp when i touch #b-a uncloaked [18:35]
pete_dushenski ddosbot is as fiery as ever. [18:35]
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davout it's actually pretty lame that people *must* be cloaked to come here, even for the first time [18:36]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform and living where you want to live =! not needed to drive de temps a temps [18:36]
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pete_dushenski needing* [18:36]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i admit that i'd still keep a car even if did not need to drive to work sites [18:36]
pete_dushenski davout yet another barrier to entry [18:36]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: but can't say i'd use it particularly often then [18:37]
pete_dushenski this is north america after all. not having a car is like not having a temperature controlled home [18:38]
davout pete_dushenski: some interesting people we'd like to have around could very well not be so technically proficient [18:38]
pete_dushenski i completely agree [18:38]
pete_dushenski herr taleb, for one. [18:39]
davout exactly him i was talking about [18:39]
pete_dushenski but what we'd like and what is do not meet here [18:39]
davout if it keeps taleb out and lets taaki in it's probably the wrong kind of barrier to entry :D [18:39]
pete_dushenski this brings up the old idea of hiring someone to hand the man a logged in laptop [18:39]
asciilifeform if he wanted in, he'd be here. [18:40]
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pete_dushenski maybe the next time taleb and saifedean cross paths ? [18:41]
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thestringpuller asciilifeform wants this: [18:43]
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TomServo I'd probably take steps to avoid this place if my first taste was the sexyginger video. [18:43]
* TomServo shudders. [18:43]
thestringpuller TomServo: sexyginger video? [18:44]
mats humorless, you are [18:44]
asciilifeform TomServo: my working hypothesis is that, for a figure like taleb, the whole net smells a little too much of taaki and sexyginger et al [18:44]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller did you see the "same damn time" video in my last article ? i thought you might get a kick out of it [18:44]
TomServo thestringpuller: joking, sexysaffron [18:44]
pete_dushenski TomServo lol you're assuming he even saw it [18:44]
TomServo pete_dushenski: no, simply stating what my reaction would be [18:45]
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pete_dushenski well it's not like this place is hard to avoid [18:45]
pete_dushenski even those "in bitcoin" seem pretty adept at this task [18:46]
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TomServo asciilifeform: I'd say you're likely to be correct on that. [18:46]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform taleb also seems to genuinely enjoy facebook and twitter [18:46]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: does he actually do two-way traffic in those, or does he simply have a perl script to broadcast his utterances every which way. [18:47]
TomServo I seem to recall him in at least 1 twitter argument. [18:48]
pete_dushenski he's constantly in twitter arguments [18:49]
pete_dushenski mostly gmo these days [18:49]
pete_dushenski skewering journalists and pseudoscientists who don't understand what a fat tail is [18:49]
ben_vulpes ;;tslb [18:50]
gribble Time since last block: 37 minutes and 4 seconds [18:51]
mats ;;bc,stats [18:53]
gribble Current Blocks: 340222 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 481 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 20 hours, 21 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 42039814636.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.39339 [18:53]
pete_dushenski Nassim Nicholas Taleb: December 29, 2014 at 7:45pm: "With the information age the world looks uglier, dirtier, more corrupt, scheming, mostly because the malicious was hidden from us before." [18:53]
pete_dushenski ^this explains why he sticks to the "cleanliness" of sm [18:54]
pete_dushenski who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men! [18:54]
mats that last part doesn't look well written [18:55]
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xanthyos sunlight is the best disinfectant [19:10]
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jurov it occurs to me it would be really nice to have a way to easily dice-generate an rsa keypair << needs just some 1585 dice throws to get two 2048bit seeds (from them prime search is sequential) [19:13]
fluffypony I found old Karpeles wisdom [19:13]
fluffypony [19:13]
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davout jurov: à coeur vaillant, rien d'impossible [19:14]
jurov why? once per second, in half hour you're done [19:14]
davout ;;dice 20d20 [19:14]
gribble 8, 7, 14, 7, 11, 9, 1, 11, 11, 1, 1, 14, 5, 2, 13, 5, 19, 9, 13, and 18 [19:14]
jurov not much of a bravery [19:15]
davout wai, you didn't hear of the actual dice-launching leprechauns powering gribble? [19:16]
jurov mircea has actual trained woman not some pesky creatures. throw, mash key 1-6, repeat all day [19:17]
jurov *women [19:17]
jurov no wonder gribble isn't working every now and then [19:18]
jurov kakobrekla: and what does assbot use? [19:19]
jurov pulls the numbers out of its ass, i suppose [19:20]
pete_dushenski it's not called trainedwomenthrowingdicebot [19:21]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov: anybody ever try bitcoind (any ver.) on 'minix' ? [19:22]
pete_dushenski "The stock—which trades under the symbol BOX—opened at $20.20 on the New York Stock Exchange, rose as high as $24.73 and closed at $23.23, up 66% from its initial public offering price of $14." [19:22]
jurov i had a thought about djgpp but minix? never [19:23]
thestringpuller roll d20 to see if you don't get molested at catholic school. hit 15 to evade [19:24]
thestringpuller ;;dice 1d20 [19:24]
gribble 7 [19:24]
thestringpuller OH NO [19:24]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu: incidentally, the 'pogo' i bought just showed up. will test 0.5.3 there. [19:25]
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kakobrekla jurov for otp? sha256 of a paragraph i made up from non-dict words plus some pseudo random bs that changes each run [19:29]
kakobrekla i dont have a better idea atm [19:29]
kakobrekla it does contain a lot of irony though if that helps [19:33]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu: << basics work. [19:36]
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jurov exchanged === exchange? [19:55]
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jurov and isn't winklevii? [19:56]
ben_vulpes minix, eh? [19:57]
ben_vulpes not i. [19:59]
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ben_vulpes nOgAnOo: you're cloaking tardily. [20:05]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform o hey nice [20:10]
mircea_popescu !up rdymac [20:10]
-assbot- You voiced rdymac for 30 minutes. [20:10]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there's a 128mB eeprom. about to write freebsd there. [20:11]
mircea_popescu how hard would it be to replace ? [20:11]
rdymac Yep? [20:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: why replace it? the thing has three usb3, one sd, and one sata jack. [20:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: can likewise boot from these. [20:11]
mircea_popescu oh! [20:11]
mircea_popescu 25 bux ? srsly ? [20:12]
asciilifeform 18. [20:12]
mircea_popescu rdymac nothin in particular. [20:12]
asciilifeform not incl. mail. [20:12]
asciilifeform (i had it overnighted, because i could.) [20:12]
mircea_popescu nubbins` say, would you wish to act as distribution agent for the serenissima full node box ? [20:12]
rdymac :) I though you were talking about Venezuela again :) [20:13]
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asciilifeform there is, for the record, an identical (but for lack of sata and one of the usb jacks) device which retails for 12 usd. [20:13]
mircea_popescu sata is worth the 6 bux tho [20:13]
* asciilifeform also thought this. [20:13]
mircea_popescu rdymac haha nope. but i did note the evo morales cartoon character proposes a seafaring bolivia of the future. [20:14]
rdymac All oficialismo crooks smoke the same shit [20:16]
mircea_popescu quite. [20:16]
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mircea_popescu << part one of the bitcoin-assets guide to perfect waitressing. today, the smile. [20:16]
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Bagels7 WOAH [20:17]
mircea_popescu < tomorrow we do the leg action. [20:18]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the logical way to set these up, i think, is to boot from attached disk if one is found; otherwise from internal eeprom, which ought to contain an automatic 'everything-installer' (of our distribution.) [20:21]
rdymac mircea_popescu: dude! I'm in a fucking public place xD [20:21]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that way, user can swap the disk at his pleasure [20:21]
mircea_popescu rdekley so are they. [20:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i was thinking, supply unit + sada preimaged. [20:22]
mircea_popescu sata* [20:22]
davout mircea_popescu: a publick fucking place [20:22]
asciilifeform everyone already owns a bag of sata disks. [20:22]
mircea_popescu public place fucking! [20:22]
asciilifeform or large sd, or usb stick [20:22]
asciilifeform (all options) [20:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah you're right. [20:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform did you get it off amazon or actual supplier ? [20:23]
* asciilifeform is still waiting to hear the story of why anyone, other than us, would wish to buy one of these and plug it in [20:23]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: amazon [20:23]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there are a few sources for these. my understanding is that they are still in production. [20:23]
mircea_popescu yeah in point of fact, we don't need to clunk up distribution [20:24]
mircea_popescu rdymac there just for you. [20:24]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron: Another sock puppet possible purchased account of Nubbins / Paul Revere. << i lolled [20:26]
mircea_popescu im so totally going to call nubsy peter minuit from now on. [20:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: mats: net-connected air filters, etc. << the 'hammurabic' punishment << [20:28]
assbot Sex Machines, Squirting and Extreme Orgasms - Updates ... ( ) [20:28]
mircea_popescu im kind-of amazed there's not this thing already, girl tied to chair, insert coin to make the rabbit hop. [20:28]
mircea_popescu "Yes, the rumors are true. Our domain was stolen. Our registrar says we likely can't get it back." lmao [20:29]
mircea_popescu so how is it OUR registrar then [20:29]
jurov is now public [20:30]
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jurov just a preview with 0.5.3 upstream, will be adding more versions [20:31]
mircea_popescu Update 2 – Mike from CoinFire has posted a response in which he denies that his source has been identified << that derp is so un-credible by now... [20:31]
mircea_popescu jurov cool! [20:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00047132 = 4.0298 BTC [+] [20:32]
mircea_popescu mats: shipping container on wheels << he has a point you know. armored cars are meh. better off just go shoot whoever is going to be shooting you and be done wit hit. [20:33]
jurov with a drone [20:33]
mats a ya. anyway whats bulletproof glass gonna do when i set a charge under a manhole cover? [20:34]
mircea_popescu keep the brains inside the car. [20:34]
mats kek. [20:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: the fastest, thickest, most luxurious car is --- not having to go places. << i still go places, even tho i dun have to. [20:35]
kakobrekla but you are weird. [20:36]
mircea_popescu davout: it's actually pretty lame that people *must* be cloaked to come here, even for the first time << why ? [20:36]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla im not weird, i'm just differently normal. [20:36]
mircea_popescu don't opress me. [20:36]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski: this is north america after all. not having a car is like not having a temperature controlled home << i didn;t know fish liked to drive up north. [20:37]
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assbot A New Form of ID Allows You to Be a Citizen of the World | VICE | United Kingdom ... ( ) [20:38]
mircea_popescu derp. [20:38]
mircea_popescu dude vice is almost as idiotic as twitter. [20:38]
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mircea_popescu davout: pete_dushenski: some interesting people we'd like to have around could very well not be so technically proficient << sluts belong in the bedroom not in the public forum. [20:38]
mircea_popescu that's the only sort of technically inept interesting people that can be. [20:39]
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ben_vulpes blech [20:39]
ben_vulpes that's pretty bad [20:39]
mircea_popescu i'm sure that upon invention of speech there were some pretty hott neanderthals that nevertheless couldn't make the cut. [20:40]
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mircea_popescu and upon invention of writing there were tons of cool people that never caught the boat. [20:40]
mircea_popescu and so it goes. gotta keep with the times. [20:40]
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mircea_popescu davout: if it keeps taleb out and lets taaki << doesn't seem to be doing that tho. [20:41]
mircea_popescu TomServo: I'd probably take steps to avoid this place if my first taste was the sexyginger video. << would you ? what wouldhave the contrary effect ? [20:42]
kakobrekla wait, there is a video? [20:43]
davout there is a video? [20:43]
danielpbarron Bitnation "white paper" hosted here: and de-derpified here: [20:43]
assbot BITNATION Whitepaper - Google Documenten ... ( ) [20:43]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla davout yes ? where've you been ? [20:43]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron seems a completely spurious attempt by people who have failed to read [20:44]
assbot Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [20:45]
mircea_popescu one does not become bitcoin-assets by defecating in google docs. [20:45]
mircea_popescu but adding Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof to the list of blacklisted idiots is a useful result of the effort, i guess. [20:45]
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mircea_popescu jurov: why? once per second, in half hour you're done << you can throw six at a time, be done in five minutes [20:48]
mod6 asciilifeform: regarding 'pogo': Cool! [20:48]
jurov if you can key them in at once [20:48]
jurov um...theoretically possible to key in ten dice at once, one per finger [20:49]
mircea_popescu jurov two girl job but yes. [20:50]
TomServo mircea_popescu: what would have the contrary effect? << samples of many of the insightful conversation I've witnessed here over the years. Would do it for me at least. [20:50]
jurov one can throw dice using a foot mechanism, hands stay on keyboard [20:50]
jurov :D [20:51]
mircea_popescu TomServo conversation is meaningless outside context. how do you supply context ? [20:51]
mircea_popescu jurov or shoot dicelasers out of cunt ? [20:51]
TomServo mircea_popescu: link to logs? :) [20:51]
kakobrekla context is text made to con you. [20:52]
mircea_popescu jurov but realy, the correct way to do it is, make a 40x40 grid in a wooden box that's the size of the dice, buy 1600 dice, shake until they settle then photograph and read the thing. [20:52]
mircea_popescu takes 5 seconds. [20:52]
mircea_popescu lol kako [20:52]
mircea_popescu TomServo afaik that was tried multiple times. [20:52]
jurov nubbins`: suggest the woodscammer to make above dice contraptions? [20:53]
mircea_popescu it's really not hard to do. works best with good quality glass or ebonite dice best. [20:53]
nubbins` my cat is a carpet when she is on the way to the vet [20:54]
jurov she is? or you're on the way with her? [20:54]
nubbins` pet in car = carpet [20:55]
nubbins` ;/ [20:55]
nubbins` [20:56]
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nubbins` ^ shag carpet [20:56]
mircea_popescu jurov: and isn't winklevii? << yeah it is, bingoboingo [20:56]
jurov yea. but you wrote as if the vet is the cat's initiative [20:56]
nubbins` o o o [20:57]
nubbins` i see [20:57]
jurov or is my engrish failing me? [20:57]
nubbins` and this is my first language ;/ [20:57]
jurov :D [20:57]
nubbins` "my drink is on its way to me" [20:57]
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mircea_popescu canadians have a first language ?! [20:57]
jurov yes, whatever the First Nations speak [20:58]
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mircea_popescu i win. [20:59]
mircea_popescu wait, CROWD SALE ? it's not only stupid, it's also a scam ? [21:00]
mircea_popescu shocked, i am. [21:00]
ben_vulpes << okay now this is some cool science [21:02]
assbot Ageing research: Blood to blood : Nature News & Comment [21:02]
ben_vulpes “If two rats are not adjusted to each other, one will chew the head of the other until it is destroyed,” << yesssss [21:02]
ben_vulpes aw man now i gotta get my braindamaged clone to happen [21:05]
ben_vulpes so i can pump his blood through me [21:05]
ben_vulpes repeatedly too [21:05]
mircea_popescu so basically, teh lich/vampire mythology is all correct. [21:06]
ben_vulpes this would be a good story. [21:06]
kakobrekla we are onto mp [21:06]
ben_vulpes it works better with close genetic matches [21:06]
mircea_popescu better buy up all the cheap venezuelean consuelas before you geriatrics figure it out [21:07]
mircea_popescu brb [21:07]
danielpbarron "Well, personally I would only marry on the blockchain. Traditional marriage is a big risk – it can destroy people's lives." --Janina Lowisz, AKA "Blockchain Girl" [21:07]
ben_vulpes mright [21:08]
ben_vulpes tell her to stick it deedbot [21:08]
* ben_vulpes elbows undata [21:08]
mircea_popescu << people that have no actual experience with the matter of women kneeling, and live on the fumes of the fantasy thereof are kinda funny. [21:08]
assbot The Intelligent Misogynist: This one kind of reminds me of a magazine cover. ... ... ( ) [21:08]
mircea_popescu an enchanted land where bursitis isn't a thing and so on. [21:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22917 @ 0.00047132 = 10.8012 BTC [+] [21:11]
ben_vulpes ain't nobody cooking on their knees, either. [21:12]
ben_vulpes that's a demerit. [21:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2080 @ 0.00094671 = 1.9692 BTC [+] {10} [21:12]
mircea_popescu maybe, if they were 11 foot tall [21:12]
mircea_popescu then other problems [21:12]
mircea_popescu and besides... heels! [21:13]
ben_vulpes yeah fr srs [21:13]
ben_vulpes although wood floors and heels man [21:13]
ben_vulpes maybe i should caveat with american "wood" floors [21:13]
mircea_popescu what about em ? [21:13]
davout they're handlaser carver [21:14]
jurov no cuntlaser [21:15]
mircea_popescu pee pee pee [21:15]
davout ;;buttlasers [21:16]
gribble Error: "buttlasers" is not a valid command. [21:16]
mircea_popescu actually, thats an idea : have rails insalled in the flooring, as if for the doors of a walk-in closet, and make the girls wear high heels that are hooked in there [21:16]
davout you suck gribleh [21:16]
mircea_popescu so they got like a train range. [21:16]
mircea_popescu i suppose would work even better with neck chain. [21:16]
* undata is underwhelmed by the notion that a "wallet" should involve a websocket, is likely just going to encrypt a sqlite and do his thing that way [21:16]
mircea_popescu adjust length for crawl, knee crawl, walk... [21:16]
undata that's the last thing deedbot needs; I've got a free-ish weekend coming up too [21:17]
* undata really wants to just hand raw txns to a finished 0.5.3 fork [21:18]
ben_vulpes undata: all you need to do is cook up raw transactions and sign them [21:18]
ben_vulpes watch blocks coming in for transactions of relevance to your address, and then request them from btcd [21:18]
undata yeah, the thing's going to need to be funded time to time though; I could just hand it a private key and keep track of its balance myself [21:19]
davout undata: "is underwhelmed by the notion that a "wallet" should involve a websocket" <<< how do you mean? [21:19]
undata this though grows into wallet-y thing which would be nicely decoupled from the client [21:19]
davout wallets ought to be decoupled from the client [21:19]
mircea_popescu undata that's the idea, all payments leave from the same address. [21:19]
mircea_popescu [21:20]
assbot ... ( ) [21:20]
davout .bait [21:20]
davout does that thing not work anymore? [21:21]
davout ;;bait [21:21]
gribble Error: "bait" is not a valid command. [21:21]
ben_vulpes for like... [21:21]
undata davout: yeah, that is a jab at btcwallet [21:21]
ben_vulpes months [21:21]
undata mircea_popescu: open slot insert privkey should be simple enough [21:21]
davout ben_vulpes: a sad is me [21:21]
ben_vulpes a sad were we all [21:22]
ben_vulpes but now mircea_popescu does it by hand and with more variety [21:22]
ben_vulpes i'm looking forward to anal stretching tomorrow [21:22]
ben_vulpes and messy post-hummer faces on monday [21:22]
ben_vulpes there's a schedule and everything [21:22]
mircea_popescu lmao [21:23]
ben_vulpes the tail-buttplugs scheduled for saturday...meh [21:23]
mircea_popescu [21:23]
assbot ... ( ) [21:23]
ben_vulpes NO FUCKING AT THE NUDE BEACH [21:23]
ben_vulpes gosh [21:23]
ben_vulpes actually hilariously [21:23]
ben_vulpes i was at the nude beach this summer. scads of folks of all ages and sizes parading around, lady v and i stretched out with wine and sammiches on a blanket somewhat away from the hubub. hundred feet or so down the beach i hear this little kid: [21:24]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes no bitching at the nude fuck! [21:24]
ben_vulpes "EWWW!" [21:24]
ben_vulpes "THEY'RE KISSING!" [21:24]
mircea_popescu lolwut [21:24]
ben_vulpes a real, as mircea_popescu sez, lolwut moment [21:25]
mircea_popescu [21:25]
assbot ... ( ) [21:25]
ben_vulpes (mind you, the girl in question was herself running around nekkid) [21:25]
kakobrekla < no, fuck you. [21:25]
assbot ... ( ) [21:25]
undata she's right, rubbing food holes? ewwww! [21:25]
nubbins` word holes too [21:26]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes wait, this was a little girl ? [21:26]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol. no, fuck her. [21:26]
undata nubbins`: I've always thought it ample evidence of there being no god that food and air share one, refuse recreation and procreation another [21:28]
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mircea_popescu !up psgs [21:29]
-assbot- You voiced psgs for 30 minutes. [21:29]
* assbot gives voice to psgs [21:29]
mircea_popescu undata how's that logic go ? [21:29]
psgs Thanks mircea_popescu :) [21:30]
undata mircea_popescu: separate hole for air; no choking on food [21:30]
undata etc [21:30]
mircea_popescu sure. who're you ? [21:30]
undata although he could just have a sense of humor [21:30]
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nubbins` [21:31]
assbot circular laser engraver engineering [ Bounty ] ... ( ) [21:31]
nubbins` ^ for lulz [21:32]
mircea_popescu undata if the air and food weren't meeting you couldn't likely speak [21:32]
mircea_popescu "I would be willing to offer a negotiable fee or bounty to anyone who could solve this engineering problem." [21:32]
mircea_popescu shit, let's do a cold fusion and circle cvadrature bounty on tardstalk! [21:33]
nubbins` heh [21:33]
nubbins` funny thing is, he was trying to solve this problem specifically for Blazedout419's $14,000 piece [21:34]
* nubbins` chuckles [21:34]
mircea_popescu tsk [21:34]
undata needing to make noise and generally not wanting to duplicate effort makes a fair amount of sense [21:36]
mircea_popescu win. [21:36]
undata also helps to be able to blow blockage out [21:36]
* undata accepts there is a loving lord [21:36]
mircea_popescu just evolutionarily discovered good design [21:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26555 @ 0.00047552 = 12.6274 BTC [+] {2} [21:38]
nubbins` HEH yep [21:39]
danielpbarron i bet he did the engraving on a disc and cut the B out after [21:46]
punkman you need a laser that doesn't just move in cartesian plane, solved problem but expensive [21:47]
punkman what is? [21:51]
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asciilifeform jurov: << e.g., this, is probably not supposed to happen. (click on identified, finds nothing.) [21:55]
assbot HEAD identifier search: CMerkleBlock ... ( ) [21:55]
punkman hanbot, oic what you mean. I don't know much about lasers, but I think focus adjustment wouldn't help for the vase example. [21:56]
punkman [21:57]
assbot DigiRob Laser - The Ultimate 7Axis Robotic Laser Cutting Machine - YouTube ... ( ) [21:57]
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asciilifeform laser << can get as many axes as you want to pay for. diametric, iirc, has a 3-axis. [22:00]
ben_vulpes ben_vulpes wait, this was a little girl ? << yeah [22:00]
ben_vulpes man i gotta get better at telling stories. [22:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18149 @ 0.00047436 = 8.6092 BTC [-] [22:03]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you know in retrospect, i don't actually blame the woodcarver idiot. he's just some monkey doing what he should be doing : monkeying. [22:06]
mircea_popescu i blame undressen horowitz and paul graham and fucking bill gates. that's who i blame. [22:07]
mircea_popescu and a whole shitload of "charity" in africa isn't going towash this off of them. poor monkey is doing what they claiemd he should be doing. fucking frauds. [22:07]
mircea_popescu he's exactly their fucking poster child : politically aware, rhetorically prepared, ready to lie and fake it all the way. [22:08]
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mircea_popescu lol totally ben_vulpes hanbot has it : the little nubbin was angling for your ass. [22:12]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, jurov, mircea_popescu: << that thing. [22:14]
assbot test - Imgur ... ( ) [22:14]
mircea_popescu all worx? [22:15]
asciilifeform object on right hand side of photograph is plastic lid (why??? ask them, not me. with it on, the device looks precisely like the non-sata version.) [22:15]
asciilifeform presently backing up the original contents, to restore later (why? so can test auto-diddler that pumps in everything in one go.) [22:16]
asciilifeform it still remains to be answered, what these are for. [22:16]
asciilifeform i.e. is user expecting an interface of some kind? or just running a node for the warm emotions [22:17]
mircea_popescu running node for the purpose of having nodes on the network. [22:17]
asciilifeform and how is he to know that the machine is working ? [22:17]
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mircea_popescu he's not really to care. [22:17]
mircea_popescu also, [22:17]
assbot ... ( ) [22:17]
asciilifeform well, what if trivial malfunction (frayed cable, or he forgot to forward port 8333 or whatnot) [22:17]
asciilifeform recall that we snipped upnp. [22:17]
asciilifeform i'd suggest sticking a simple status display (blocks synched, connection count) on port 80. [22:18]
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asciilifeform (on lan, naturally) [22:18]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah, because guy knows the ip and can just check if a node answers there [22:19]
mircea_popescu if not, throw out unit get new one. [22:19]
asciilifeform he may want to know if the disk has filled. [22:19]
mircea_popescu can pull it out. [22:19]
asciilifeform sure. [22:20]
asciilifeform so we just want a simple brutal beast of 0.5.3-on-a-unix-box ? [22:20]
mircea_popescu pretty much. [22:21]
jurov asciilifeform: fixed, CMerkleBlock isn't supposed to be in 0.5.3 but i have put there newer cpp files by mistake [22:22]
mircea_popescu dude don't mix the shitstrands [22:23]
asciilifeform jurov: seems entirely dead now [22:23]
jurov O.o [22:24]
asciilifeform jurov: click on any of the sources. [22:25]
jurov irc.cpp does not exist but others work [22:26]
asciilifeform half what i'm seeing is a link to nowhere [22:27]
asciilifeform but yeah, main.cpp works [22:27]
mircea_popescu nighty! [22:28]
Python interface unloaded [22:28]
Tcl interface unloaded [22:28]
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