Forum logs for 21 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu of course it talks to whatever it's told to talk to. [00:00]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: study any other classical protocol (e.g., ftp) [00:00]
asciilifeform nothing like this appears therein [00:00]
mircea_popescu so ? [00:00]
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asciilifeform i don't see any 'win' from it [00:00]
asciilifeform given how it lives in protocol, cannot really be removed. but still retarded. [00:01]
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asciilifeform once a tcp socket is opened, there is two-way communication. [00:02]
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asciilifeform without any intrinsic need for either side to say 'and here is my ip' [00:02]
mircea_popescu so ? [00:03]
asciilifeform (for socket to happen, at least one of the ends had to know the other's, yes) [00:03]
mircea_popescu this sounds like an argument against assfucking. "because there's a cunt there" [00:03]
asciilifeform more like earfucking [00:04]
mircea_popescu i mean, what is it, just because it's different ? [00:04]
asciilifeform nosefucking. [00:04]
mircea_popescu so bitcoin does earfucking. [00:04]
asciilifeform of own sisters. [00:04]
mircea_popescu i am inclined to believe this is more likely the result of original author having nfi how tcp works rathger than having an idea about some obscure weakness he's deliberately mitigating [00:04]
asciilifeform well sure. [00:05]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, "it's strange" is not much of an arghument is it ? [00:05]
asciilifeform hence 'retarded' [00:05]
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mircea_popescu no, retarded is a different degree. has to be actively dysfunctional somehow [00:05]
mircea_popescu rather than just ignarous. [00:05]
asciilifeform dysfunctional in that it was the glass that glued the 'showmyip' thing in there [00:05]
mircea_popescu hoiw the fuck do you even say this in english [00:06]
mircea_popescu apparently ignare is actually an english word [00:06]
cazalla hanbot, published (good read) [00:07]
asciilifeform the 'speak own ip' thing did indeed drag in a whole mess of crap that had no business being in bitcoin [00:07]
mircea_popescu can you see any reason he'd suspect the ip provided by the socket ? [00:07]
asciilifeform if you're at the stage of suspecting a diddled socket, time to use actual asymmetric crypto [00:08]
mircea_popescu myeah [00:08]
asciilifeform weird kludge adds nothing [00:08]
mircea_popescu i dunno. i don't understand internets - which is common, admitting it is rare [00:08]
mircea_popescu who the fuck knows what ddos. [00:08]
asciilifeform '"We tried to get him mental help numerous times, but the system failed him, because he was declared 'sane'," his family has said.' << mega-l0l! [00:09]
mircea_popescu innit. [00:09]
mircea_popescu double ratios for tyhe hero's family [00:10]
mircea_popescu they can have jam today. [00:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.0004186 = 4.0186 BTC [-] {2} [00:10]
* asciilifeform just now realized that mr. death-van ~bought~ rather than built the thing [00:12]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: it's a subtle kind of malevolence wherein needless complexity is all of a sudden necessary because of a subtle misunderstanding of the bedrock [00:13]
ben_vulpes subtle subtle subtle subtle [00:13]
ben_vulpes i can't words good today. [00:13]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yeah. [00:14]
mircea_popescu still, the conservative approach in unknown terrain has yet to be beaten in the field. [00:14]
asciilifeform ^ i'll sign under this with proviso that terrain is indeed ~unknown~ [00:15]
mircea_popescu daring acts of bravado belong to they in possession of a map. [00:15]
ben_vulpes or the bravely foolish. [00:18]
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mod6 who knows why satoshi put that in there. i kinda find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have understood IP headers. perhaps he was trying to ensure that every connecting node was indeed a real host, not some spoofed packet magic. [00:31]
mircea_popescu that could not spoof the ip address ? [00:33]
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mircea_popescu not like messages are signed or anythinmg [00:34]
mod6 yeah, no clue. [00:34]
mod6 just grasping at straws. maybe the simplest answer is the correct one: he just didn't know. [00:35]
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ben_vulpes do we even know that that part of the wire protocol is his handiwork? [00:55]
ben_vulpes unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy? [00:56]
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mod6 good point, i shouldn't speculate about weather satoshi wrote that or not without looking at MP's submission of the original bitcoin. ( [01:01]
mod6 anyway, im /exausted/. have a good night! [01:03]
mod6 eh, maybe i was wrong about what that email contains, i guess it's from may of 2012. ugh, too tired. my apologies. [01:04]
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ben_vulpes !up Vexual [02:31]
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ben_vulpes heh, mebbe in that i've worn her in a bit now. [02:40]
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ben_vulpes does anyone recall where the (brief) thread on replacing rpc with signals went? [02:49]
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ben_vulpes << does this set the bindAddress to any if the -rpcallowip flag is set? [03:14]
assbot Satoshi ... ( ) [03:14]
* ben_vulpes not actually testing this tonight, just reading code [03:14]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes so it goes faster ? :D [03:41]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes it sets it to the specified ip [03:42]
mircea_popescu otherwise it only allows [03:42]
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ben_vulpes well i'm reading that as a ternary operator [04:03]
ben_vulpes = (test) ? (val if test returns true) : (val if test returns false) [04:04]
ben_vulpes am i off my rocker? [04:04]
mircea_popescu but the true is a function call [04:05]
ben_vulpes asio::ip::address_v4::any() << looks wide ope to me [04:05]
mircea_popescu << see there [04:06]
assbot boost/asio/ip/address_v4.hpp - 1.50.0 ... ( ) [04:06]
mircea_popescu it just transforms a numeric value into a boost "object" [04:06]
ben_vulpes which numeric value? i read " if flag is passed, accept requests from any ipv4 addr. else, only accept connections on the loopback interface" [04:07]
mircea_popescu nah. it's -rpcallowip=x [04:08]
mircea_popescu and it turns the x into something it can use as an ip [04:09]
mircea_popescu "if flag is passed, transform its value into an ip and use that" [04:09]
mircea_popescu in other news, [04:12]
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ben_vulpes that's som implicit ass semantics if that's how shit's actually workgin [04:14]
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ben_vulpes i only have this to go on [04:14]
assbot How to use the Conditional (ternary) ope - C++ Forum ... ( ) [04:14]
ben_vulpes dun see how the test value gets passed to the function invocations [04:15]
ben_vulpes and that method call any() looks like..."any" [04:15]
mircea_popescu i didn't come up with boost. [04:16]
ben_vulpes hey look! pits! [04:16]
ben_vulpes if that works the way you say it works that's more implicit than rails [04:17]
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mircea_popescu i see your raisinettes and raise you the maid : [11:48]
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mod6 So yeah, in the version (v0.2.1) from MPs email, that code to find the external ip is included. Also if I do a checkout of tag v0.1.5 from git, same thing. Still don't know who added it for sure though. [13:16]
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mod6 anyway, it's neither really here nor there. [13:19]
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mod6 ;;bc,stats [13:27]
gribble Current Blocks: 361912 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 967 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, 18 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [13:27]
mod6 !t m s.mpoe [13:27]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00040352 / 0.00042091 / 0.00045217 (1775681 shares, 747.42 BTC), 7D: 0.00036741 / 0.0004229 / 0.00047031 (20583079 shares, 8,704.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00026467 / 0.00035047 / 0.00047031 (106048949 shares, 37,167.48 BTC) [13:27]
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mircea_popescu mod6 it was in the first implementation too. pretty sure it's OA. [13:32]
mod6 Objection Argumentitive? yeah, guess it is. [13:35]
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mircea_popescu original author lol [13:35]
mod6 ahh, haha. ok [13:35]
mod6 Unrelated, I downgraded my GPG version from v1.4.13 to v1.4.10 -- incase anyone notices the change in my sigs. [13:38]
mod6 v1.4.10 is from Sept. 2nd 2009 where v1.4.13 is from Dec. 20th 2012 which was still pre-snowden, but only by ~4-5 months. [13:44]
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williamdunne mircea_popescu: how did you get 3% RO tax rate? [13:45]
mircea_popescu small businesses pay 3% of income. the other option is to pay 16% of net income. [13:45]
williamdunne Oh okay [13:46]
mircea_popescu you can also opt to be a vat payer (in which case you also get to deduct vat you paid) [13:46]
williamdunne So works out a lot better if you have high profit margins to do 3% income [13:46]
mircea_popescu but best used in the hands of a competent local accountant, because it's complex. [13:46]
mircea_popescu williamdunne moreover, there are better jurisdictions to deduct expenses in than romania. [13:47]
mircea_popescu deduct in london, get out of 60% rather than in romania, which has 16% pretty much throughout. [13:47]
Naphex williamdunne: not yet, no RO exchanges alive atm [13:48]
williamdunne Naphex: I was terrified this was the finished product [13:48]
williamdunne [13:48]
assbot Bitcoin Exchange Romania - your cryptocurrency source ... ( ) [13:48]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Hmm okay, makes sense. But in UK you have dividend tax which sucks [13:49]
mircea_popescu what's that to do with anything ? [13:49]
williamdunne Which if I'm reading correctly, doesn't apply to EU citizens for Romanian companies [13:49]
mircea_popescu why would you be paying yourself dividends in london ? [13:49]
williamdunne Not the only shareholder [13:49]
mircea_popescu if it's a large company you don't gas about dividends. if it's small hire them as consultants or w/e [13:50]
Naphex williamdunne: nah, that looks like ssome scam [13:50]
mircea_popescu srsly, get a tax lawyer, this is a thing. [13:50]
williamdunne True, will be worth doing [13:50]
williamdunne Naphex: Definitely, I'm guessing its the scammer you worked for trying to revive his shit without your source [13:50]
mircea_popescu contrary to popular belief tax lawyers are not expensive, ~especially~ if you're young and you look like you know what you're doing. most of their revenue comes from their list, which they can only add at the early stages, nobody's switching late in the game. [13:51]
mircea_popescu it's very much like the hiring market for businesses. [13:51]
williamdunne That actually makes a lot of sense, want to keep hold of you for when you are big [13:52]
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williamdunne mircea_popescu: I know your policy on MPEX is only to support bitcoin denominated businesses, but whats your opinion on exchanges? IMO while fiat is involved, revenue is almost entirely pegged to bitcoin [14:02]
williamdunne Oh and what is the name of the 8ch guy again? [14:07]
asciilifeform williamdunne: plz add phuctor rss ? [14:07]
williamdunne asciilifeform: Remind me tomorrow, and yeah I need to revive scoop anyway [14:08]
williamdunne Still not at home [14:08]
williamdunne Just the UK [14:08]
asciilifeform << yes [14:09]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 06:10:10; ben_vulpes: << does this set the bindAddress to any if the -rpcallowip flag is set? [14:09]
asciilifeform predicate ? action : else-action [14:09]
asciilifeform as per k&r [14:09]
asciilifeform << run moar winblows ! (tm) [14:10]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 10:00:19; jurov: kek [14:10]
asciilifeform << the folks who like to brag about how they work for physical benjies will enjoy this link [14:13]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 13:32:42; punkman: [14:13]
williamdunne asciilifeform: mai muny nao [14:15]
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asciilifeform << iirc it was 0.6.2 [14:24]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 03:57:27; mod6: good point, i shouldn't speculate about weather satoshi wrote that or not without looking at MP's submission of the original bitcoin. ( [14:24]
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mod6 0.6.2? [14:30]
asciilifeform << does ben_vulpes write single-threaded net proggies often ? [14:31]
mod6 no, MPs email contained v0.2.1 [14:31]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 03:52:09; ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy? [14:31]
asciilifeform mod6: not the linked one [14:31]
asciilifeform mod6: perhaps earlier ? [14:31]
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mod6 oooh. i was super confused. ok the name of the file is "bitcoin-src-21may2012.tar.gz" [14:33]
mod6 not v0.2.1 may 21st. smh [14:33]
asciilifeform aha [14:33]
mod6 *sigh* [14:33]
mod6 anyway, i did checkout git tag v0.1.5 and the code there has the external ip stuff too. [14:34]
asciilifeform pretty sure this crud was in the original 'wire protocol.' [14:34]
mod6 whats the wire protocol? [14:35]
asciilifeform mod6: lowest level of the bitcoin spec - order in which fields go in message, their contents, etc [14:36]
asciilifeform traditional (apparently) name. [14:36]
mod6 ah, didn't know it had a name. [14:36]
* asciilifeform still recovering from yesterday's dive into the pile of shit, and wonders who and where hates said pile nearly as much as he does [14:37]
mod6 anyway, yeah, i think this crud goes all the way back to the start. [14:37]
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asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu historical q. has anyone ever publicly attempted an honest implementation of 'provably destroy coin on bitcoin blockchain, re-materialize on $altcoin chain' mechanism? or was all known work on the subject perpetrated by idiot sc4mz0rz ? [14:42]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:42]
trinque mod6: I awaken [14:45]
trinque coffee in hand [14:45]
trinque lettuce slay the gcc dragon [14:45]
trinque or like... poke it in the eye and run [14:45]
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mod6 trinque: werd. sounds good. [15:00]
punkman asciilifeform: I think the state of the art is: you send X BTC to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE then new genesis block assigns X newcoin to originating address, or something along these lines [15:00]
mod6 nooooo [15:00]
punkman counterparty burn address [15:01]
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ben_vulpes is today the day we vendor gcc? [15:08]
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punkman [15:13]
assbot Wild cats, cocaine and claims of a police set-up | Bangkok Post: news ... ( ) [15:13]
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funkenstein_ more sugar on an average benjamin [15:20]
mod6 soon to be bennifer [15:26]
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ben_vulpes << does ben_vulpes write single-threaded net proggies often ? << ima sheep, but i was just thinking that spinning off a whole new thread to flush the db and sleep for half a second was a bit heavy handed. [15:50]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 03:52:09; ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy? [15:50]
punkman [15:52]
assbot The Bitcoin Network | Joola ... ( ) [15:52]
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ben_vulpes << yes << mircea_popescu asciilifeform plz foar to fight [16:16]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 06:10:10; ben_vulpes: << does this set the bindAddress to any if the -rpcallowip flag is set? [16:16]
ben_vulpes is this ThreadSocketHandler -> ThreadSocketHandler2 pattern common in c++ multithreaded proggies? [16:17]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell funkenstein_ nice [17:10]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform idiot scammzorz/naive webdevelopers. [17:11]
mircea_popescu the problem reduces to "find a salt that will turn this trivial hash into a known hash", which is equivalent to "break this key", which makes the premise unworkable. [17:11]
mircea_popescu williamdunne depends a lot on the exchange. [17:16]
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mod6 so trinque & I have discovered that the patch provided by the email mentioned ( ) doesn't patch cleanly at all. Even with some McGuyvering of the patch to ensure the paths are correct etc, there are still a number of files not found. It might be plausible to write our own custom patch for 4.8.4 to resolve the issue. [17:31]
assbot ... ( ) [17:31]
mod6 I think I might try to manually implement the changes required if the files in question do exist. [17:32]
mod6 If this doesn't go well, perhaps we'll try a period gcc if we can get it to work with uclibc/hardened AND another caviat here is going to be weather this defect shows up in there as well (since way down level). [17:33]
ben_vulpes lurvely. [17:33]
mod6 yeah, she's ugly. [17:34]
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ben_vulpes does call with an empty third argument? [17:49]
assbot Satoshi ... ( ) [17:49]
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cazalla ;;later tell peter_dushenski i think your blog might've eaten my comment [17:49]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:49]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform, mod6, decimation, trinque and any other c-grammers [17:50]
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mod6 lol, this is uglier than I had thought. I patched the gcc-4.8.4 source with all of the patches from /their/ bundle v1.5 (, and now i'm in there apply patches by hand, and only 2 out of ~10 files to patch actually exist here (the rest are for pr# files (Problem Report?)). And when I can apply a patch, the surrounding code is slightly different. [18:03]
mod6 there's about a 0.001% chance this will work. [18:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8180 @ 0.00041703 = 3.4113 BTC [-] {2} [18:07]
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mircea_popescu nuts. [18:08]
mircea_popescu << someone put it on reddit twitter or wherever. [18:09]
assbot Eulora 2nd event, Crafting As A Business and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [18:09]
mod6 ok, well done patching the stuff that can be patched... [18:09]
ben_vulpes i don't even have any items in eulora yet [18:11]
ben_vulpes much less time for games... [18:11]
mod6 << someone put it on reddit twitter or wherever. << done [18:12]
mircea_popescu danke [18:14]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes well, we'll keep it warm for you for when you grow younger ? [18:16]
ben_vulpes although i did get a claim yesterday... [18:21]
mircea_popescu hey wd. [18:21]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: << still getting calls to getaddrinfo it looks like [18:22]
assbot ... ( ) [18:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00041263 = 11.3886 BTC [-] {4} [18:23]
trinque that's a hilarious warning [18:24]
jurov ouch [18:25]
mircea_popescu o brother [18:25]
mircea_popescu ITS IN BOOST [18:25]
ben_vulpes i know [18:28]
ben_vulpes da woist [18:29]
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mod6 ben_vulpes: you did get Eulora built tho 'eh?! [18:39]
mircea_popescu was it ubuntu in the end ? [18:39]
ben_vulpes also code review please: [18:42]
assbot a tour of bitcoind booting to its first thread ... ( ) [18:43]
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thestringpuller << such derp [18:46]
mircea_popescu the happy "done!" printout [18:46]
mircea_popescu awww. the words of a man in old dull pain./ [18:46]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller i wonder briefly why these tards don't do something useful with their time, instead of making pointless "infographs" that make no sense, represent no data and interest no one. [18:47]
mircea_popescu but then again... [18:47]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: 'twas [18:49]
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jurov that's incredible picture... why it does not go on at least to 2100, i wonder [18:59]
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mod6 ok, i've got a patch i created myself (post application of patches: gentoo/uclibc/PIE) for gcc... just trying to get it to work with emerge. [19:08]
mod6 patch applies manually just fine, seems to choak when used by emerge becuase of directory levels or something. hopefully can overcome this... [19:09]
ben_vulpes << i did my homework boss [19:11]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 01:43:37; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: you now have homework. it being, to read & actually grok the sequence of 4 'dns thermonuke' patches. [19:11]
assbot excising DNS lookups from bitcoind: asciilifeform's patches ... ( ) [19:11]
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williamdunne I think I found Kim's child [19:32]
williamdunne [19:32]
assbot IamA 23 year old from the UK who can end the austerity and inequality that we are facing, but I am ignored by the media and even my own political party AMA! : IAmA ... ( ) [19:32]
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cazalla wru scoopy [19:34]
cazalla [19:34]
assbot FATF: Concerns Regarding Use Of Bitcoin By Terrorists | Qntra ... ( ) [19:34]
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williamdunne wru? [19:36]
asciilifeform << yes, it is. i suspected. [19:36]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 21:21:49; mircea_popescu: ITS IN BOOST [19:36]
asciilifeform but there could be no talk of removing it without first removing from bitcoind [19:36]
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asciilifeform it may be possible to amputate it with linker shenanigans [19:37]
asciilifeform but it ~will~ have to come out [19:37]
asciilifeform << precisely ~not~ what i was asking for. this is how idiot sc4mz0r did it - as a one-time thing [19:38]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 17:56:12; punkman: asciilifeform: I think the state of the art is: you send X BTC to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE then new genesis block assigns X newcoin to originating address, or something along these lines [19:38]
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funkenstein_ i'm doubt it's what you are referring to, but the "atomic transaction.. btc from x to y and Ztc from y to x all in one all-or-nothing TX, has supposedly been implemented by mercury exchange [20:31]
funkenstein_ which unfortunately uses java 8, and when I was trying to test I didn't even get as far as building OpenJDK 8 [20:32]
BingoBoingo [20:41]
assbot Bitcoin Live Adult Entertainment Reaches Beta | Qntra ... ( ) [20:41]
BingoBoingo ^ Naphex [20:42]
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mircea_popescu !up SuchWow [21:14]
-assbot- You voiced SuchWow for 30 minutes. [21:14]
* assbot gives voice to SuchWow [21:14]
SuchWow why hello there [21:14]
SuchWow i've been gone for 2-3 months, tl;dr me the best parts [21:14]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes << check her out [21:14]
assbot The cost of shitogramming in Ossasepia ... ( ) [21:14]
SuchWow and what happened to fluffypony [21:14]
SuchWow oh, is still here [21:15]
SuchWow mainly i'm just curious [21:15]
SuchWow as to the current sentiment [21:15]
mircea_popescu who were you again ? [21:15]
SuchWow overall [21:15]
mircea_popescu !gettrust SuchWow [21:15]
assbot SuchWow is not registered in WoT. [21:15]
SuchWow I was a founding op of #dogecoin lol [21:15]
SuchWow and i've never been interested [21:15]
SuchWow in bot trust games lol [21:15]
mircea_popescu mkay. [21:16]
SuchWow u can search ur logs for more, i've had a few mildly amusing exchanges here (not really tho [21:16]
cazalla SuchWow, is this the day where you check if #b-a is still around long after dogecoin was put to sleep? [21:17]
SuchWow cazalla: clearly you haven't been watching dogecoin charts, and even more clearly, you have no idea who i am. [21:19]
SuchWow or what i do, etc. [21:19]
SuchWow but have fun with your attempted cajoles lol [21:19]
cazalla SuchWow, you mean i don't know chinese exchanges pump it up with fake volume to fool westerners? [21:20]
SuchWow now i get why you only voice ppl under certain conditions [21:20]
SuchWow cazalla: if you say so, i really and honestly wouldn't know anything about that [21:20]
cazalla what conditions are they? [21:20]
SuchWow i dunno, you're here in this chan, i haven't been here for months [21:20]
SuchWow you tell me [21:20]
SuchWow you're the one making subtly degrading comments towards me based on total ignorance [21:21]
SuchWow so perhaps the rules have changed [21:21]
* SuchWow yawns [21:21]
cazalla people often up others that /join the channel.. sorta like answering a knock at the door? just being polite ya know, there is no judgement one way or the other until you open your mouth [21:21]
ben_vulpes altcoins are retarded, you're going to get prodded when you show up here pumping them. [21:22]
ben_vulpes big whoop. [21:22]
SuchWow cazalla: i've been upped over a dozen times here, thanks [21:22]
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SuchWow it was not my idea to bring up altcoins in the discussion [21:22]
SuchWow someone asked who i was, i reminded them, and then you started in with ur bullshit [21:23]
SuchWow doesn't bother me at all tho tbh [21:23]
ben_vulpes heh. but you're here! who could resist taking a shot! [21:23]
SuchWow :D [21:23]
ben_vulpes > ur bullshit [21:23]
ben_vulpes > doesn't bother me [21:23]
ben_vulpes mhhhhhhhm [21:23]
SuchWow well i'll be more clear [21:23]
SuchWow implying that i have knowledge of what he was saying [21:23]
SuchWow is the bullshit part [21:23]
SuchWow what he actually said cold be true,, i woudln't know lol [21:23]
ben_vulpes we all do is the funny part [21:23]
SuchWow i just saw one of your 'members' spamming in another chan [21:24]
ben_vulpes we're all complicit in the altcoin pump and dump nao! [21:24]
SuchWow and said 'hey, why not see what they'er up to' [21:24]
ben_vulpes winding up altcoiners, today [21:24]
cazalla SuchWow, you're the one that said check out the charts.. i did and btc38 is supposedly 85% of the dogecoin trade [21:24]
SuchWow since btc has returned to volatility again [21:24]
SuchWow and i l ike to trade 796 at 50:1 instead of playing poker these days [21:24]
mircea_popescu lol what, the proposition is that dogecoin still exists ?! [21:24]
SuchWow cazalla: pretty sure cryptsy is still #1, but haven't checked honestly [21:24]
SuchWow cazalla: my comment was more about you saying doge had been 'put to sleep' [21:25]
SuchWow when in reality it has returned close to 400% recently [21:25]
cazalla pretty sure but haven't checked.. ok sorta makes sense why you'd be involved in dogecoin to begin with [21:25]
ben_vulpes "i thought i killed it a year ago!" [21:25]
SuchWow cazalla: there you go again. Why do you think i am involved with dogecoin? [21:25]
SuchWow you keep using that as an insult [21:25]
SuchWow but i'm not involved with dogecoin [21:25]
SuchWow and haven't been for a long time [21:26]
cazalla SuchWow, you brought it up by bragging about being a founder of #dogecoin (wow, such bragworthy, not) [21:26]
ben_vulpes you're not anyone, how could you be involved with anything... [21:26]
SuchWow so keep on with that delusiohn. it would seem YOU know more than ME about it lol [21:26]
SuchWow cazalla: i was asked 'who are you again' [21:26]
SuchWow i answered [21:26]
SuchWow that's it [21:26]
SuchWow the rest wqas you [21:26]
ben_vulpes SuchWow: yeah who are you actually [21:26]
SuchWow dealwithit.jpg [21:26]
williamdunne SuchWow: You mentioned the dogecoin thing, I also assumed you're still involved [21:26]
cazalla umad.gif [21:26]
SuchWow well [21:26]
SuchWow 6 months ago when i was last here [21:27]
mircea_popescu << actual gif. [21:27]
assbot ... ( ) [21:27]
SuchWow that was what/who everyone knew me as [21:27]
SuchWow that is generally my reputation [21:27]
cazalla SuchWow, being involved in dogecoin at some point is not something you go around bragging [21:27]
SuchWow clearly it rings a bell to none of you [21:27]
SuchWow and you just keep asking me over and over lol [21:27]
ben_vulpes i tried to short it once [21:27]
ben_vulpes but i'm retarded so [21:27]
SuchWow i'm not bragging? i was answering a question asked of me [21:27]
SuchWow y'all dense as fuck [21:27]
SuchWow THAT is what (if anything) you would remember me from [21:27]
SuchWow and if you didn't want to know [21:28]
SuchWow you shouldn't have asked [21:28]
SuchWow hostile crowd here [21:28]
mircea_popescu well yeah. [21:28]
cazalla there is no hostility, you're just a little touchy [21:28]
SuchWow I'm the touchy one? LOL!! [21:28]
ben_vulpes lighten up [21:28]
mircea_popescu ^ [21:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00042231 = 3.7797 BTC [+] [21:28]
SuchWow ok club [21:28]
SuchWow i've answered all of your questions [21:28]
ben_vulpes not really - who are you? [21:28]
SuchWow despite being accused of shit for doing so [21:28]
SuchWow nobody has answered my questions tho [21:29]
SuchWow lol [21:29]
mircea_popescu !rate SuchWow 1 answered all questions, still no idea who he is. [21:29]
assbot SuchWow is not registered in WoT. [21:29]
mircea_popescu oh. [21:29]
ben_vulpes aw what a shame. [21:29]
mircea_popescu !s suchwow [21:29]
assbot 263 results for 'suchwow' : [21:29]
ben_vulpes try again in six months? [21:29]
SuchWow wut? [21:29]
SuchWow you don't read do you lol [21:29]
SuchWow [20:11:46] <+SuchWow> and i've never been interested [21:29]
SuchWow [20:11:49] <+SuchWow> in bot trust games lol [21:30]
mircea_popescu [21:30]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2014 07:41:30; SuchWow: i've NEVER ONCE talked here lol [21:30]
mircea_popescu ok. [21:30]
SuchWow not here, not -otc [21:30]
SuchWow yet i trade successfully for 2 years [21:30]
SuchWow without these things lol [21:30]
ben_vulpes so? [21:30]
mircea_popescu so ? people cook successfully without running water and things [21:30]
mircea_popescu in nigeria. [21:30]
cazalla i can hold my breath under water for 30 seconds.. [21:30]
SuchWow anyhow i will restate why i joined this chan again [21:30]
ben_vulpes why? [21:30]
SuchWow one of your 'members' spammed an ad in another chan to join here [21:30]
mircea_popescu who where ? [21:30]
SuchWow i remembered being active here long ago [21:30]
SuchWow and decided to rejoin [21:30]
SuchWow upon joining, i asked what the current sentiment of btc was here [21:31]
SuchWow and then all this doge shit started up [21:31]
ben_vulpes oh that [21:31]
ben_vulpes "grumpy" i'd say [21:31]
ben_vulpes boost is all fucked up [21:31]
mircea_popescu SuchWow read that. [21:31]
assbot #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [21:31]
cazalla SuchWow, so you gonna paint the #b-a fence, wax the #b-a floor or wut? [21:31]
SuchWow from #bitcoin-pricetalk today: [17:47:39] join #bitcoin-assets [21:31]
ben_vulpes bitbet just lost a few months of profit [21:31]
ben_vulpes uh [21:31]
mircea_popescu !s sevenx [21:32]
assbot 0 results for 'sevenx' : [21:32]
mircea_popescu o.O [21:32]
ben_vulpes oh but we have a new rss bot that's new [21:32]
SuchWow ben_vulpes: i feel ya, grumpy seems about right [21:32]
mircea_popescu the things that happen in the internets truck make me feel old and out of touch [21:32]
SuchWow and yes, i get this chan is professional, and above my head, that's why i left lol [21:32]
mircea_popescu so go play eulora [21:32]
ben_vulpes and i guess is deedbot new since you last were here? [21:32]
SuchWow again, it was just the spam that made me come back and say hi :) [21:32]
mircea_popescu no wait nm, need a rating for that. [21:32]
ben_vulpes aha zing [21:32]
SuchWow i really never was a super active participant [21:33]
SuchWow just a newb tryna learn :) [21:33]
ben_vulpes no man i have this remembory [21:33]
ben_vulpes of like [21:33]
ben_vulpes doge [21:33]
mircea_popescu lmao. [21:33]
SuchWow bitcoin is enough tho, adding securities on top of that, out of my league haha :) [21:33]
SuchWow doge recent performance has been pretty amazing tho [21:33]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [21:33]
SuchWow and i say that from an outside perspective [21:33]
mod6 check out the /topic & read at least 6 months of logs. [21:33]
SuchWow got a real jobj 9 months ago [21:34]
mircea_popescu nbews in past 6 months : s.mpoe almost went to shit but recovered, i lost the berkshire bet, launched eulora, s.nsa's phuctor delivered 60 or so broken rsa moduli [21:34]
SuchWow work WAY too much to trade anymore [21:34]
mircea_popescu there's actually a LOT [21:34]
SuchWow nice lol [21:34]
ben_vulpes oh yeah mp lost the berkshire bet [21:34]
mircea_popescu deedbot came online, [21:34]
SuchWow anyhow i'll poof after the up goes down [21:34]
SuchWow is good to know y'all are still here and srs about shit [21:34]
mircea_popescu we got that lawsky schmuck fired, [21:34]
ben_vulpes don't go! [21:34]
SuchWow that in and of itself kinda answers my original question [21:34]
mircea_popescu gavin got shot in the head, cusipzzz got exposed [21:34]
ben_vulpes we're still regaling you with our victories [21:35]
mircea_popescu jesus god it's pages of shit. [21:35]
SuchWow right but [21:35]
SuchWow when will the bitcoin regs [21:35]
SuchWow be published in the weekly journal or whatev [21:35]
ben_vulpes !s cusipzzz [21:35]
assbot 14 results for 'cusipzzz' : [21:35]
SuchWow that's what i can't figure out [21:35]
SuchWow lol cuspizzz [21:35]
SuchWow i do like that guy [21:35]
mircea_popescu qntra is older than 6 months no ? [21:35]
SuchWow mr 'weekend tank' [21:35]
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ben_vulpes SuchWow: you volunteering to summarize the court's proceedings? [21:35]
SuchWow srsly tho, only thing i can find [21:35]
mircea_popescu barelky older. [21:35]
ben_vulpes aha [21:35]
ben_vulpes deedbot lol [21:35]
SuchWow is that nydfs is final once published [21:35]
SuchWow in that weekly register [21:35]
SuchWow when will that happen? [21:35]
mircea_popescu SuchWow nobody asked them anything. [21:36]
ben_vulpes who cares [21:36]
SuchWow everyone in btcland should? [21:36]
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SuchWow because if rumors about china banning are relevant [21:36]
SuchWow than ACTUAL FACTS about regulation should be pertinent? [21:36]
ben_vulpes by the time the usg realizes that there's a btc-shaped train headed its way it will be too late for it to do anything. [21:36]
mircea_popescu i dun think you understand how teh btcworld works. [21:36]
ben_vulpes naw it'll be great SuchWow [21:36]
ben_vulpes we'll get to see btc users go to town on china [21:36]
SuchWow i think nobody knows the answer to my question lol [21:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15576 @ 0.00041577 = 6.476 BTC [-] {2} [21:36]
* ben_vulpes chants "hash by hand. hash by hand." [21:37]
SuchWow and if nobody here knows that answer, than that tells me what i need to know lol [21:37]
ben_vulpes bitcoin-assets aka bitcoin doomsday cult [21:37]
SuchWow (i just trade btc/usd on 796 at 50:1 for gambling purposes) [21:37]
SuchWow way more fun than poker [21:37]
ben_vulpes repeat! [21:37]
mircea_popescu "main calls AppInit, which itself calls AppInit2 catching all exceptions in two seperate logic branches, shuting itself down if the second layer of AppInit doesn't fire correctly:" [21:37]
SuchWow i'm currently bullish, after a LONG time of being bearish [21:37]
mircea_popescu for crying out loud. [21:37]
SuchWow hence why i was curious as to the general sentiment here [21:37]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: what!? [21:38]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i just keep forgetting the horrest parts of bitcoin [21:38]
ben_vulpes it almost looks normal now [21:38]
ben_vulpes weep for me [21:38]
mircea_popescu then go through these phases of he's kidding no wait, wait, i recall this. but it couldn't be. o yes it is. [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43996 @ 0.00041263 = 18.1541 BTC [-] {3} [21:38]
mircea_popescu mysterious BDB shenanigans on application shutdown << it doesn't have atomic index operations. which means, that it can has updated index but unupdated data. [21:39]
SuchWow i ofc assume that sentimentality on btc prices affects the securities tradded with it lol [21:39]
mircea_popescu at least that's what i understand of it. [21:39]
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ben_vulpes ah CAddrDB("cr+").LoadAddresses(); i missed you [21:42]
SuchWow Anyhow, it's been a pleasure speaking with you all, and should I ever quit my job and start daytrading BTC/USD fulltime again, I will return. I will give back the last 2 minutes I have of being 'upped' to the floor. :) [21:42]
mircea_popescu cheers. [21:42]
ben_vulpes you were keeping track? [21:42]
* SuchWow pours shots for everyone before he goes [21:42]
ben_vulpes this was a deliberately orchestrated event! [21:42]
mircea_popescu "Even though the application's default behavior is to create the ~/.bitcoind directory itself unprompted (and yet not the bitcoin.conf file that the damn thing expects in there), if you pass it a data directory that doesn't exist, it refuses to create it." [21:42]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [21:42]
ben_vulpes i feel hoodwinked. [21:42]
mircea_popescu o god. [21:42]
ben_vulpes i'm getting lazy with pronouns. [21:43]
ben_vulpes but it's hard to write well wearing asbestos gloves. [21:43]
mircea_popescu Bitcoind as written would be the best possible example of condescending software design if it were worthy of being called "designed" instead of "crufted together by a monotonically increasingly febrile group of contributors". << i can sign that. [21:43]
ben_vulpes oh fuck off [21:44]
ben_vulpes !down SuchWow [21:44]
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mircea_popescu ./proggy -? << iirc this is the old ms-dos standard. [21:44]
mircea_popescu because it had to be different from the -h convention [21:44]
ben_vulpes the cover [21:44]
ben_vulpes it is so complete [21:44]
mircea_popescu hm ? [21:45]
ben_vulpes visual basic [21:45]
ben_vulpes old ms-dos cli flags [21:45]
ben_vulpes targeting windows [21:45]
mircea_popescu lol [21:45]
ben_vulpes it's almost convincing [21:45]
mircea_popescu yeah [21:45]
mircea_popescu certainly nobody still young enough to pick up chicks would know wtf -? [21:46]
mircea_popescu (and no, i'm not an exception - i have to have the chicks pick up chicks for me!) [21:46]
ben_vulpes poor old man [21:47]
ben_vulpes poor, poor you [21:47]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes btw, as a matter of course articles like that should contain a "this is how you get your system to reproduce my screenshots" thing, with emacs settings etc. [21:48]
mircea_popescu help people learn the shit you use makes more people use the shit you use makes you less likely to have to learn shit other people use. [21:48]
ben_vulpes e for student [21:49]
ben_vulpes exercise* [21:49]
mircea_popescu it doth not have the great degree of generality that a good exercise makes. [21:49]
ben_vulpes M-x gdb [21:49]
ben_vulpes okay okay [21:49]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes and yet, author knows enough to use strprintf rather than any other of the countless vulnerable c string things [21:52]
mircea_popescu in which aspect c is very much like php [21:52]
mircea_popescu ( for the curious ) [21:52]
assbot Dynamic Strings in C ... ( ) [21:52]
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ben_vulpes does argue for a rather sophisticated greybeard [21:58]
ben_vulpes the most elaborate programming exercise - write something world-changing in a style nobody would ever attribute to you [21:58]
mircea_popescu myeah. it just doesn't wash, half the "expert" population of c-ers doesn't actually comprehend c string safety [21:59]
mircea_popescu (admitting such exists) [21:59]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes incidentally is a muntz rocket ? [22:03]
assbot ... ( ) [22:03]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell pete_dushenski << nice job. [22:05]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:05]
assbot just another day in sunny cascadia ... ( ) [22:05]
ben_vulpes muntz the car brand or muntz the guy who made TVs? [22:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00040941 = 12.3232 BTC [-] {5} [22:05]
ben_vulpes either way, no [22:05]
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ben_vulpes unless you're making a sophisticated joke about horsepower and snipping arbitrary cables... [22:06]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes he also made a car. [22:08]
mircea_popescu like 1000 or so ever made. valuable antique now [22:08]
mircea_popescu [22:08]
assbot ... ( ) [22:08]
mircea_popescu but yeah, doesn't actually look like it [22:09]
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mircea_popescu !up ahmed_ [22:11]
-assbot- You voiced ahmed_ for 30 minutes. [22:11]
* assbot gives voice to ahmed_ [22:11]
ben_vulpes yeah, i was looking at that. [22:11]
ahmed_ ty [22:11]
ben_vulpes pretty [22:12]
mircea_popescu ahmed_ sure. who're you ? [22:13]
mircea_popescu not the dead terrorist i hope ? [22:13]
ben_vulpes heh - does redirect shenanigans [22:13]
ahmed_ hahahahahah [22:13]
ahmed_ nopeee [22:13]
ben_vulpes hm [22:13]
ahmed_ just a fellow bitcoin user [22:13]
ben_vulpes who /is/ running a public node? [22:13]
ahmed_ i am [22:13]
mircea_popescu "i'm the live terrorist, mutha! PEW PEW PEW!!!" [22:13]
ben_vulpes wcgw [22:13]
mircea_popescu ;;ud what vulps said [22:14]
gribble | It is believed they held a peculiarly close relationship with the species vulpes ... A mindset which doesn't allow someone to stop saying the same things over and ... [22:14]
mircea_popescu palintology. clearly. [22:14]
ben_vulpes "what could go wrong" [22:14]
ben_vulpes anyways these newly muntzed nodes dun wanna connect to anything off of irc [22:15]
mircea_popescu what's in the log ? [22:15]
mircea_popescu (it is possibru nothing much still runs on irc) [22:15]
ben_vulpes not much useful. standard boot up and then silence. [22:16]
ben_vulpes hm. [22:16]
mircea_popescu does it attempt to connect to anything ? [22:16]
mircea_popescu nmap it [22:17]
mircea_popescu wireshark it [22:18]
mircea_popescu SPY ON IT!!1 [22:18]
cazalla chark is hongry [22:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19945 @ 0.00040649 = 8.1074 BTC [-] {2} [22:21]
cazalla [22:28]
assbot [VICE] presents-- *Nug Up or Shut Up* --...(real Joe Rogan selfsuck Humiliation Video) - YouTube ... ( ) [22:28]
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ben_vulpes i'm trying to reason about it first. [22:33]
ben_vulpes reasoning about software? [22:33]
ben_vulpes BIG MISTAKE [22:33]
ben_vulpes on the topic of the cost of complexity tossed in because someone doesn't understand things [22:34]
mircea_popescu beat it first. [22:34]
mod6 ben_vulpes: what version & patches & os? [22:34]
mircea_popescu reason comes after tears. [22:34]
ben_vulpes now i have to load the IRC protocol up into my head to figure out precisely how it's derivsupposed to turn IRC connections into peers [22:34]
mircea_popescu << here's the famous hyperborean stone whale. speshul for cazalla [22:34]
assbot ... ( ) [22:35]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes just looks at hostnames from /who list and spams them [22:35]
ben_vulpes mod6: everything up through thermonyuuke [22:35]
mod6 ah [22:35]
mircea_popescu also scarfs up join messages. [22:35]
mod6 ben_vulpes: & ubuntu? [22:35]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i like em thick but maybe not that big (i'd still hit it) [22:36]
mircea_popescu me2 [22:36]
cazalla if i can see ribs when she reaches for the sky, she needs a good meal before we bang [22:37]
cazalla mind you, this is all theory, i've been banging the same tired old hole for years [22:38]
mircea_popescu ribs are notbad either. [22:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10055 @ 0.0004042 = 4.0642 BTC [-] [22:39]
mircea_popescu example. [22:39]
assbot ... ( ) [22:39]
mod6 re: slutennis "Wouldn't you watch a sport like that ?" << f yes. [22:40]
mircea_popescu haha! [22:40]
mircea_popescu ikr ? [22:41]
mod6 for sure. [22:41]
mircea_popescu pay per view! [22:41]
mod6 *nod* [22:41]
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mircea_popescu people^H preachin' retards keep getting in the way of women doing the soirt of shit that'd make them awesome. [22:42]
mircea_popescu i guarantee you nobody's saying anything to the slutennis champ but "ma'am" [22:42]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i mean something like this where you see the rib cage under the titties [22:42]
assbot ... ( ) [22:42]
mod6 foxtail would command respect for sure. [22:43]
mircea_popescu cazalla the problem with her is that no tits. if she had d+ knockers the ribcage'd be a + [22:43]
mircea_popescu mod6 and the thing is, that arrangement'd pretty much kill anyone but a young woman. [22:43]
mircea_popescu sweat to death in that casing. plus fucking heels. [22:43]
mod6 yeah, that shoes might be the problem. but... war is hell. [22:44]
mod6 :D [22:44]
mod6 girls would have to do cart-wheels to get to a ball on the otherside of the court as opposed to running. [22:45]
mircea_popescu holy shit prolly. [22:45]
mircea_popescu they'd need special "always ready" cartwheel gloves [22:46]
mircea_popescu to protect fingers while doing it with a raquet [22:46]
mod6 ah, yeah. hmm. didn't consider that. [22:46]
mircea_popescu nuts tho. i hadn't realised cartwheels'd necessarily be a big part. [22:46]
mircea_popescu in other news, i still dunno what event to do next for eulora. [22:47]
mod6 the skirts could have a quick "clasp" or some sort of attachment mechinism to keep hands free while cart-wheeling. [22:47]
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cazalla mircea_popescu, but how many skinny girls have D+ cups? (natural not implants with a gap larger than my front fucking teeth) [22:48]
mod6 oh I vote for the trip to magial places on the island. [22:48]
mircea_popescu cazalla few. but man... [22:48]
cazalla creating a bitbet.. micon cops a plea deal.. does anyone think prior to 2016 is a fair time scale? [22:50]
mircea_popescu he definitely will tho. who's gonna bet against you [22:50]
cazalla who knows.. and he might plea but not agree to do so this year [22:52]
ben_vulpes mod6: ya, tis ubuntu [22:53]
mircea_popescu mebbe i guess [22:54]
ben_vulpes << i have a hunch we're going to see approximately the same ratio in irc [23:03]
assbot ... ( ) [23:03]
mircea_popescu just about. [23:03]
ben_vulpes are there some scripts kicking around for connecting to arbitrary nodes? [23:04]
mircea_popescu replace the file where bitcoin saves its nodes with your own preference. [23:04]
ben_vulpes << perhaps... [23:05]
assbot ayeowch/bitnodes · GitHub ... ( ) [23:05]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: sorry, unclear. scripts for crawling/pinging nodes. [23:06]
mircea_popescu what's wrong with alf's ? [23:07]
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ben_vulpes that one on the list? [23:07]
mircea_popescu well yeah [23:08]
ben_vulpes i dunno man i just like reading a bunch of different approaches [23:08]
mircea_popescu esp if you wish to compare stuff to its results or w/e [23:08]
mircea_popescu chrome is seriously taking over the internets. [23:08]
mircea_popescu we're getting another microsoft over here. [23:09]
trinque big time [23:09]
mircea_popescu yeah. [23:09]
trinque can be amusing to think of chrome as a google rootkit [23:09]
mircea_popescu i see it ~40%. with the next two TOGETHER at 40%. [23:10]
trinque rather than competing with microsoft or apple in the OS space, they just snuck their way in with their own OS [23:10]
mircea_popescu yep [23:10]
mircea_popescu definitely got it. and im sure some idiot "woman in tech" a la carly fiorina is going to bring a shittier apple itunes store on it [23:10]
trinque read some article where they said this is *precisely* what WebAssembly is [23:11]
trinque an answer to the app store thing from google [23:11]
trinque even though yeah, they've got the android one [23:11]
mircea_popescu android thing was just a decoy. [23:12]
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mats plus side, crimeware never escapes the sandbox. [23:12]
mircea_popescu minus side, nothing other than crimeware's worth doing anymore. [23:12]
ben_vulpes ALL SOFTWARE IS CRIMEWARE [23:13]
mats rude [23:13]
ben_vulpes COWER CITIZENS [23:13]
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trinque to think, people will be able to play oculus angry birds right from facebook [23:15]
trinque and they say progress is dead [23:15]
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mats anybody have any idea wtf this reactive programming stuff is [23:16]
trinque [23:16]
mats and plz no buzz words [23:16]
assbot ... ( ) [23:16]
mircea_popescu mats mostly "oo v2.0" [23:17]
mats oo as in... object oriented? [23:18]
mircea_popescu yeah. the previous buzzword wankatron [23:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10145 @ 0.00040319 = 4.0904 BTC [-] [23:22]
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BingoBoingo Have yet another new-old machine [23:27]
BingoBoingo 2009 vintage acer laptop, single core amd 64 proccessor 3GB ram.... Disadvantages: Huge [23:28]
mircea_popescu "advantages : vibrates pleasantly" [23:30]
BingoBoingo advantage: was free [23:30]
mircea_popescu can't argue with that. [23:31]
BingoBoingo ascquaintance was moving and did not want to move this HUGE thing [23:31]
asciilifeform ;;late tell ben_vulpes what happened to posting debug.log [23:32]
gribble Error: "late" is not a valid command. [23:32]
asciilifeform ;;later tell ben_vulpes what happened to posting debug.log [23:32]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:32]
mircea_popescu a too big to move laptop. [23:32]
BingoBoingo Well, he's moving into his girlfriend's place and long ago she bought him a bunch of Apple shit to replace it so indeed too big to move laptop [23:33]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: pardon? [23:34]
cazalla come with a hdd? burn it with fire BingoBoingo lol [23:34]
ben_vulpes oh, you want to see debug.log [23:34]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i see in the logs where you had a node fail to snarf seed from the old irc [23:35]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Looks like the original 160 GB hard drive. I'll probably end up applicancing it into a node [23:35]
asciilifeform << 'chrome' (or, more practically, the open-source trimmable version 'chromium') is the only remaining graphical browser for unixlikes that isn't screamingly retarded [23:36]
assbot Logged on 22-06-2015 02:05:08; mircea_popescu: chrome is seriously taking over the internets. [23:36]
trinque asciilifeform: still comes with tasty binary treats, apparently [23:37]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: [23:37]
assbot dpaste: 3GFCEPM ... ( ) [23:37]
trinque or at least they're leaking through [23:37]
asciilifeform trinque: that's what the shears are for [23:37]
asciilifeform trinque: also help to run on weird archs [23:37]
ben_vulpes the irc "logic" is mind-numbingly dumb [23:38]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: be so kind as to try an experiment. ping the box whose hostname i snipped out. notice - not same ip. replace ip in irc.cpp with this. then run. [23:38]
ben_vulpes i actually did not notice this. [23:38]
asciilifeform i noticed. [23:38]
ben_vulpes ahaha i am so dumb. [23:38]
ben_vulpes no, i noticed the snip. i figured smarts were involves. [23:39]
ben_vulpes involved*. [23:39]
asciilifeform l0l smarts [23:41]
asciilifeform farts. [23:41]
* asciilifeform reads the latest two articles from ben_vulpes [23:42]
ben_vulpes you'll not find much in there. [23:42]
BingoBoingo At least will find nice headlights in the header [23:44]
asciilifeform mega-vroom [23:44]
asciilifeform incidentally, anyone who owns old cars and frequents mechanics would have to be blind to suggest that usd is not palpably inflating [23:45]
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asciilifeform << btw, anybody got a handy link to what precisely generates the message seen here ? [23:48]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2015 21:18:37; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: << still getting calls to getaddrinfo it looks like [23:48]
asciilifeform as in, is this a hardcoded idiocy in gcc proper ? its linker ? where ? [23:49]
asciilifeform a #pragma in glibc ? [23:49]
asciilifeform btw, i found our shitgnome: [23:50]
assbot Static Linking Considered Harmful ... ( ) [23:50]
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asciilifeform !s drepper [23:50]
assbot 4 results for 'drepper' : [23:50]
trinque !up fartacus [23:50]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu awake ? [23:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00041125 = 14.5583 BTC [+] [23:51]
fartacus ben_vulpes: this beirc seems like another one of those "hey cool, made something that works in clim. I think I'll go get a job now" projects [23:51]
ben_vulpes lol hi fartacus [23:51]
trinque I'm fartacus! [23:51]
fartacus thing wasn't even showing chan text without switching out of and back into the buffer [23:52]
fartacus but I bet it's sexy under the hood [23:52]
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ben_vulpes ahaha [23:53]
ben_vulpes or if anyone gave a shit and implemented it on allegro it might work [23:53]
ben_vulpes but who's going to implement a clim irc client on allegro [23:53]
ben_vulpes p sure we all have vastly better things to be doing [23:54]
asciilifeform closed-source toolchains can go die in a fire [23:54]
* asciilifeform and has used allegro, and knows that it is, overall, superior in every way (but this) to the available alternatives [23:54]
thestringpuller too many softwares named allegra [23:55]
thestringpuller allegro* [23:55]
asciilifeform << as i understand, drepper 'did it' [23:55]
assbot Bug #134400 “glibc do not really static compile my project.” : Bugs : glibc package : Ubuntu ... ( ) [23:55]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: better in every way but source-open-ness? [23:55]
asciilifeform aha [23:55]
thestringpuller << asciilifeform is the 2nd result from google, assuming you guise are talking about lisp [23:55]
thestringpuller but i am assuming* [23:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00040389 = 17.9327 BTC [-] {4} [23:56]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: ~nothing whatsoever~ to do with allegro common lisp (franz inc.) [23:56]
asciilifeform which was the subject here [23:56]
asciilifeform (very confusingly, there was also a 'franz lisp') [23:56]
asciilifeform << vendor page [23:57]
assbot Allegro Common Lisp ... ( ) [23:57]
asciilifeform << claimed endorsements. notably absent from list is usg, who i have strong reasons to believe is the main buyer. [23:58]
assbot Franz Inc: Allegro Common Lisp and Common Lisp Products ... ( ) [23:58]
ben_vulpes same is true for the major haskell shops. [23:58]
* asciilifeform personally requisitioned an allegro license & support contract while under usg banners [23:58]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: and how was it? [23:58]
asciilifeform spiffy. [23:59]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: USG is on that list plenty of times. [23:59]
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