Forum logs for 21 Jun 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
| mircea_popescu | of course it talks to whatever it's told to talk to. | [00:00] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: study any other classical protocol (e.g., ftp) | [00:00] |
| asciilifeform | nothing like this appears therein | [00:00] |
| mircea_popescu | so ? | [00:00] |
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| asciilifeform | i don't see any 'win' from it | [00:00] |
| asciilifeform | given how it lives in protocol, cannot really be removed. but still retarded. | [00:01] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13387 @ 0.00042007 = 5.6235 BTC [-] | [00:01] |
| asciilifeform | once a tcp socket is opened, there is two-way communication. | [00:02] |
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| asciilifeform | without any intrinsic need for either side to say 'and here is my ip' | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu | so ? | [00:03] |
| asciilifeform | (for socket to happen, at least one of the ends had to know the other's, yes) | [00:03] |
| mircea_popescu | this sounds like an argument against assfucking. "because there's a cunt there" | [00:03] |
| asciilifeform | more like earfucking | [00:04] |
| mircea_popescu | i mean, what is it, just because it's different ? | [00:04] |
| asciilifeform | nosefucking. | [00:04] |
| mircea_popescu | so bitcoin does earfucking. | [00:04] |
| asciilifeform | of own sisters. | [00:04] |
| mircea_popescu | i am inclined to believe this is more likely the result of original author having nfi how tcp works rathger than having an idea about some obscure weakness he's deliberately mitigating | [00:04] |
| asciilifeform | well sure. | [00:05] |
| mircea_popescu | nevertheless, "it's strange" is not much of an arghument is it ? | [00:05] |
| asciilifeform | hence 'retarded' | [00:05] |
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| mircea_popescu | no, retarded is a different degree. has to be actively dysfunctional somehow | [00:05] |
| mircea_popescu | rather than just ignarous. | [00:05] |
| asciilifeform | dysfunctional in that it was the glass that glued the 'showmyip' thing in there | [00:05] |
| mircea_popescu | hoiw the fuck do you even say this in english | [00:06] |
| mircea_popescu | apparently ignare is actually an english word | [00:06] |
| cazalla | hanbot, published (good read) | [00:07] |
| asciilifeform | the 'speak own ip' thing did indeed drag in a whole mess of crap that had no business being in bitcoin | [00:07] |
| mircea_popescu | can you see any reason he'd suspect the ip provided by the socket ? | [00:07] |
| asciilifeform | if you're at the stage of suspecting a diddled socket, time to use actual asymmetric crypto | [00:08] |
| mircea_popescu | myeah | [00:08] |
| asciilifeform | weird kludge adds nothing | [00:08] |
| mircea_popescu | i dunno. i don't understand internets - which is common, admitting it is rare | [00:08] |
| mircea_popescu | who the fuck knows what ddos. | [00:08] |
| asciilifeform | '"We tried to get him mental help numerous times, but the system failed him, because he was declared 'sane'," his family has said.' << mega-l0l! | [00:09] |
| mircea_popescu | innit. | [00:09] |
| mircea_popescu | double ratios for tyhe hero's family | [00:10] |
| mircea_popescu | they can have jam today. | [00:10] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.0004186 = 4.0186 BTC [-] {2} | [00:10] |
| * | asciilifeform just now realized that mr. death-van ~bought~ rather than built the thing | [00:12] |
| ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: it's a subtle kind of malevolence wherein needless complexity is all of a sudden necessary because of a subtle misunderstanding of the bedrock | [00:13] |
| ben_vulpes | subtle subtle subtle subtle | [00:13] |
| ben_vulpes | i can't words good today. | [00:13] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes yeah. | [00:14] |
| mircea_popescu | still, the conservative approach in unknown terrain has yet to be beaten in the field. | [00:14] |
| asciilifeform | ^ i'll sign under this with proviso that terrain is indeed ~unknown~ | [00:15] |
| mircea_popescu | daring acts of bravado belong to they in possession of a map. | [00:15] |
| ben_vulpes | or the bravely foolish. | [00:18] |
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| mod6 | who knows why satoshi put that in there. i kinda find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have understood IP headers. perhaps he was trying to ensure that every connecting node was indeed a real host, not some spoofed packet magic. | [00:31] |
| mircea_popescu | that could not spoof the ip address ? | [00:33] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15543 @ 0.00042164 = 6.5536 BTC [+] {2} | [00:34] |
| mircea_popescu | not like messages are signed or anythinmg | [00:34] |
| mod6 | yeah, no clue. | [00:34] |
| mod6 | just grasping at straws. maybe the simplest answer is the correct one: he just didn't know. | [00:35] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.0004173 = 5.1328 BTC [-] | [00:38] |
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| ben_vulpes | do we even know that that part of the wire protocol is his handiwork? | [00:55] |
| ben_vulpes | unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy? | [00:56] |
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| mod6 | good point, i shouldn't speculate about weather satoshi wrote that or not without looking at MP's submission of the original bitcoin. (http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000047.html) | [01:01] |
| mod6 | anyway, im /exausted/. have a good night! | [01:03] |
| mod6 | eh, maybe i was wrong about what that email contains, i guess it's from may of 2012. ugh, too tired. my apologies. | [01:04] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00040663 = 5.7945 BTC [+] {2} | [01:12] |
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| ben_vulpes | !up Vexual | [02:31] |
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| ben_vulpes | heh, mebbe in that i've worn her in a bit now. | [02:40] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6394 @ 0.00042177 = 2.6968 BTC [+] | [02:43] |
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| ben_vulpes | does anyone recall where the (brief) thread on replacing rpc with signals went? | [02:49] |
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| ben_vulpes | http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#2122 << does this set the bindAddress to any if the -rpcallowip flag is set? | [03:14] |
| assbot | Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1BDVaPk ) | [03:14] |
| * | ben_vulpes not actually testing this tonight, just reading code | [03:14] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10945 @ 0.00042177 = 4.6163 BTC [+] | [03:22] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00042177 = 2.5939 BTC [+] {2} | [03:35] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes so it goes faster ? :D | [03:41] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes it sets it to the specified ip | [03:42] |
| mircea_popescu | otherwise it only allows 127.0.0.1 | [03:42] |
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| ben_vulpes | well i'm reading that as a ternary operator | [04:03] |
| ben_vulpes | = (test) ? (val if test returns true) : (val if test returns false) | [04:04] |
| ben_vulpes | am i off my rocker? | [04:04] |
| mircea_popescu | but the true is a function call | [04:05] |
| ben_vulpes | asio::ip::address_v4::any() << looks wide ope to me | [04:05] |
| mircea_popescu | http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_50_0/boost/asio/ip/address_v4.hpp << see there | [04:06] |
| assbot | boost/asio/ip/address_v4.hpp - 1.50.0 ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmAIVU ) | [04:06] |
| mircea_popescu | it just transforms a numeric value into a boost "object" | [04:06] |
| ben_vulpes | which numeric value? i read " if flag is passed, accept requests from any ipv4 addr. else, only accept connections on the loopback interface" | [04:07] |
| mircea_popescu | nah. it's -rpcallowip=x | [04:08] |
| mircea_popescu | and it turns the x into something it can use as an ip | [04:09] |
| mircea_popescu | "if flag is passed, transform its value into an ip and use that" | [04:09] |
| mircea_popescu | in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzug50hc4W1r2k92so1_1280.jpg | [04:12] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gee9we ) | [04:12] |
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| ben_vulpes | that's som implicit ass semantics if that's how shit's actually workgin | [04:14] |
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| ben_vulpes | i only have this to go on http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/articles/14631/ | [04:14] |
| assbot | How to use the Conditional (ternary) ope - C++ Forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1Geej6J ) | [04:14] |
| ben_vulpes | dun see how the test value gets passed to the function invocations | [04:15] |
| ben_vulpes | and that method call any() looks like..."any" | [04:15] |
| mircea_popescu | i didn't come up with boost. | [04:16] |
| ben_vulpes | hey look! pits! | [04:16] |
| ben_vulpes | if that works the way you say it works that's more implicit than rails | [04:17] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00043979 = 3.2325 BTC [+] | [11:45] |
| punkman | http://i.imgur.com/M9gviD3.jpg | [11:46] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1BvnnHu ) | [11:46] |
| mircea_popescu | i see your raisinettes and raise you the maid : http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8sfllwJJS1qeqtbxo1_1280.jpg | [11:48] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0004397 = 2.5942 BTC [+] | [12:47] |
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| mod6 | So yeah, in the version (v0.2.1) from MPs email, that code to find the external ip is included. Also if I do a checkout of tag v0.1.5 from git, same thing. Still don't know who added it for sure though. | [13:16] |
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| mod6 | anyway, it's neither really here nor there. | [13:19] |
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| mod6 | ;;bc,stats | [13:27] |
| gribble | Current Blocks: 361912 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 967 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, 18 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [13:27] |
| mod6 | !t m s.mpoe | [13:27] |
| assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00040352 / 0.00042091 / 0.00045217 (1775681 shares, 747.42 BTC), 7D: 0.00036741 / 0.0004229 / 0.00047031 (20583079 shares, 8,704.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00026467 / 0.00035047 / 0.00047031 (106048949 shares, 37,167.48 BTC) | [13:27] |
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| mircea_popescu | mod6 it was in the first implementation too. pretty sure it's OA. | [13:32] |
| mod6 | Objection Argumentitive? yeah, guess it is. | [13:35] |
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| mircea_popescu | original author lol | [13:35] |
| mod6 | ahh, haha. ok | [13:35] |
| mod6 | Unrelated, I downgraded my GPG version from v1.4.13 to v1.4.10 -- incase anyone notices the change in my sigs. | [13:38] |
| mod6 | v1.4.10 is from Sept. 2nd 2009 https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2009q3/000291.html where v1.4.13 is from Dec. 20th 2012 https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2012q4/000319.html which was still pre-snowden, but only by ~4-5 months. | [13:44] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LcLld2 ) | [13:44] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LcLkpo ) | [13:44] |
| williamdunne | mircea_popescu: how did you get 3% RO tax rate? | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu | small businesses pay 3% of income. the other option is to pay 16% of net income. | [13:45] |
| williamdunne | Oh okay | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu | you can also opt to be a vat payer (in which case you also get to deduct vat you paid) | [13:46] |
| williamdunne | So works out a lot better if you have high profit margins to do 3% income | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu | but best used in the hands of a competent local accountant, because it's complex. | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu | williamdunne moreover, there are better jurisdictions to deduct expenses in than romania. | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu | deduct in london, get out of 60% rather than in romania, which has 16% pretty much throughout. | [13:47] |
| Naphex | williamdunne: not yet, no RO exchanges alive atm | [13:48] |
| williamdunne | Naphex: I was terrified this was the finished product | [13:48] |
| williamdunne | https://bitcoinxromania.com/en/home/ | [13:48] |
| assbot | Bitcoin Exchange Romania - your cryptocurrency source ... ( http://bit.ly/1LcM267 ) | [13:48] |
| williamdunne | mircea_popescu: Hmm okay, makes sense. But in UK you have dividend tax which sucks | [13:49] |
| mircea_popescu | what's that to do with anything ? | [13:49] |
| williamdunne | Which if I'm reading correctly, doesn't apply to EU citizens for Romanian companies | [13:49] |
| mircea_popescu | why would you be paying yourself dividends in london ? | [13:49] |
| williamdunne | Not the only shareholder | [13:49] |
| mircea_popescu | if it's a large company you don't gas about dividends. if it's small hire them as consultants or w/e | [13:50] |
| Naphex | williamdunne: nah, that looks like ssome scam | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu | srsly, get a tax lawyer, this is a thing. | [13:50] |
| williamdunne | True, will be worth doing | [13:50] |
| williamdunne | Naphex: Definitely, I'm guessing its the scammer you worked for trying to revive his shit without your source | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu | contrary to popular belief tax lawyers are not expensive, ~especially~ if you're young and you look like you know what you're doing. most of their revenue comes from their list, which they can only add at the early stages, nobody's switching late in the game. | [13:51] |
| mircea_popescu | it's very much like the hiring market for businesses. | [13:51] |
| williamdunne | That actually makes a lot of sense, want to keep hold of you for when you are big | [13:52] |
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| williamdunne | mircea_popescu: I know your policy on MPEX is only to support bitcoin denominated businesses, but whats your opinion on exchanges? IMO while fiat is involved, revenue is almost entirely pegged to bitcoin | [14:02] |
| williamdunne | Oh and what is the name of the 8ch guy again? | [14:07] |
| asciilifeform | williamdunne: plz add phuctor rss ? | [14:07] |
| williamdunne | asciilifeform: Remind me tomorrow, and yeah I need to revive scoop anyway | [14:08] |
| williamdunne | Still not at home | [14:08] |
| williamdunne | Just the UK | [14:08] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170756 << yes | [14:09] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 06:10:10; ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#2122 << does this set the bindAddress to any if the -rpcallowip flag is set? | [14:09] |
| asciilifeform | predicate ? action : else-action | [14:09] |
| asciilifeform | as per k&r | [14:09] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170794 << run moar winblows ! (tm) | [14:10] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 10:00:19; jurov: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9750797 kek | [14:10] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170818 << the folks who like to brag about how they work for physical benjies will enjoy this link | [14:13] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 13:32:42; punkman: http://dailysignal.com/2015/06/17/law-enforcement-seizes-11000-from-24-year-old-at-airport-without-charging-him-with-a-crime/ | [14:13] |
| williamdunne | asciilifeform: mai muny nao | [14:15] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8907 @ 0.00043813 = 3.9024 BTC [-] | [14:17] |
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| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170738 << iirc it was 0.6.2 | [14:24] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 03:57:27; mod6: good point, i shouldn't speculate about weather satoshi wrote that or not without looking at MP's submission of the original bitcoin. (http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000047.html) | [14:24] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.0004289 = 8.3207 BTC [-] {3} | [14:29] |
| mod6 | 0.6.2? | [14:30] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170737 << does ben_vulpes write single-threaded net proggies often ? | [14:31] |
| mod6 | no, MPs email contained v0.2.1 | [14:31] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 03:52:09; ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy? | [14:31] |
| asciilifeform | mod6: not the linked one | [14:31] |
| asciilifeform | mod6: perhaps earlier ? | [14:31] |
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| mod6 | oooh. i was super confused. ok the name of the file is "bitcoin-src-21may2012.tar.gz" | [14:33] |
| mod6 | not v0.2.1 may 21st. smh | [14:33] |
| asciilifeform | aha | [14:33] |
| mod6 | *sigh* | [14:33] |
| mod6 | anyway, i did checkout git tag v0.1.5 and the code there has the external ip stuff too. | [14:34] |
| asciilifeform | pretty sure this crud was in the original 'wire protocol.' | [14:34] |
| mod6 | whats the wire protocol? | [14:35] |
| asciilifeform | mod6: lowest level of the bitcoin spec - order in which fields go in message, their contents, etc | [14:36] |
| asciilifeform | traditional (apparently) name. | [14:36] |
| mod6 | ah, didn't know it had a name. | [14:36] |
| * | asciilifeform still recovering from yesterday's dive into the pile of shit, and wonders who and where hates said pile nearly as much as he does | [14:37] |
| mod6 | anyway, yeah, i think this crud goes all the way back to the start. | [14:37] |
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| asciilifeform | ;;later tell mircea_popescu historical q. has anyone ever publicly attempted an honest implementation of 'provably destroy coin on bitcoin blockchain, re-materialize on $altcoin chain' mechanism? or was all known work on the subject perpetrated by idiot sc4mz0rz ? | [14:42] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [14:42] |
| trinque | mod6: I awaken | [14:45] |
| trinque | coffee in hand | [14:45] |
| trinque | lettuce slay the gcc dragon | [14:45] |
| trinque | or like... poke it in the eye and run | [14:45] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00042537 = 1.6802 BTC [-] | [14:48] |
| mod6 | trinque: werd. sounds good. | [15:00] |
| punkman | asciilifeform: I think the state of the art is: you send X BTC to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE then new genesis block assigns X newcoin to originating address, or something along these lines | [15:00] |
| mod6 | nooooo | [15:00] |
| punkman | counterparty burn address http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr | [15:01] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1fqYeUw ) | [15:02] |
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| ben_vulpes | is today the day we vendor gcc? | [15:08] |
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| punkman | http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/special-reports/598388/wild-cats-cocaine-and-claims-of-a-police-set-up | [15:13] |
| assbot | Wild cats, cocaine and claims of a police set-up | Bangkok Post: news ... ( http://bit.ly/1fqZyXE ) | [15:13] |
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| funkenstein_ | more sugar on an average benjamin | [15:20] |
| mod6 | soon to be bennifer | [15:26] |
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| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 03:52:09; ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy? | [15:50] |
| punkman | http://analytx.io/ | [15:52] |
| assbot | The Bitcoin Network | Joola ... ( http://bit.ly/1K4P0dD ) | [15:52] |
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| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 06:10:10; ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#2122 << does this set the bindAddress to any if the -rpcallowip flag is set? | [16:16] |
| ben_vulpes | is this ThreadSocketHandler -> ThreadSocketHandler2 pattern common in c++ multithreaded proggies? | [16:17] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00043312 = 3.1834 BTC [+] | [16:19] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00042208 = 9.4546 BTC [-] {3} | [16:31] |
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| oglafbot | http://oglaf.com/acrophobia/ | [16:35] |
| assbot | Acrophobia ... ( http://bit.ly/1MXSXhO ) | [16:35] |
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| mircea_popescu | ;;later tell funkenstein_ nice | [17:10] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:10] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform idiot scammzorz/naive webdevelopers. | [17:11] |
| mircea_popescu | the problem reduces to "find a salt that will turn this trivial hash into a known hash", which is equivalent to "break this key", which makes the premise unworkable. | [17:11] |
| mircea_popescu | williamdunne depends a lot on the exchange. | [17:16] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16055 @ 0.00043312 = 6.9537 BTC [+] | [17:21] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00043368 = 4.5103 BTC [+] {2} | [17:25] |
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| mod6 | so trinque & I have discovered that the patch provided by the email mentioned ( https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-02/msg00410.html ) doesn't patch cleanly at all. Even with some McGuyvering of the patch to ensure the paths are correct etc, there are still a number of files not found. It might be plausible to write our own custom patch for 4.8.4 to resolve the issue. | [17:31] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1dY0NN1 ) | [17:31] |
| mod6 | I think I might try to manually implement the changes required if the files in question do exist. | [17:32] |
| mod6 | If this doesn't go well, perhaps we'll try a period gcc if we can get it to work with uclibc/hardened AND another caviat here is going to be weather this defect shows up in there as well (since way down level). | [17:33] |
| ben_vulpes | lurvely. | [17:33] |
| mod6 | yeah, she's ugly. | [17:34] |
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| ben_vulpes | does http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/irc.cpp#270 call http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/protocol.cpp#0083 with an empty third argument? | [17:49] |
| assbot | Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/irc.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1dY3fTG ) | [17:49] |
| assbot | Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/protocol.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1dY3hed ) | [17:49] |
| cazalla | ;;later tell peter_dushenski i think your blog might've eaten my comment | [17:49] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:49] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform, mod6, decimation, trinque and any other c-grammers | [17:50] |
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| mod6 | lol, this is uglier than I had thought. I patched the gcc-4.8.4 source with all of the patches from /their/ bundle v1.5 (http://dpaste.com/1NRJTT7.txt), and now i'm in there apply patches by hand, and only 2 out of ~10 files to patch actually exist here (the rest are for pr# files (Problem Report?)). And when I can apply a patch, the surrounding code is slightly different. | [18:03] |
| mod6 | there's about a 0.001% chance this will work. | [18:03] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8180 @ 0.00041703 = 3.4113 BTC [-] {2} | [18:07] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19870 @ 0.0004149 = 8.2441 BTC [-] {3} | [18:08] |
| mircea_popescu | nuts. | [18:08] |
| mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-2nd-event-crafting-as-a-business-and-other-considerations/ << someone put it on reddit twitter or wherever. | [18:09] |
| assbot | Eulora 2nd event, Crafting As A Business and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcLHky ) | [18:09] |
| mod6 | ok, well done patching the stuff that can be patched... | [18:09] |
| ben_vulpes | i don't even have any items in eulora yet | [18:11] |
| ben_vulpes | much less time for games... | [18:11] |
| mod6 | << someone put it on reddit twitter or wherever. << done | [18:12] |
| mircea_popescu | danke | [18:14] |
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| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes well, we'll keep it warm for you for when you grow younger ? | [18:16] |
| ben_vulpes | although i did get a claim yesterday... | [18:21] |
| mircea_popescu | hey wd. | [18:21] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/0RT585M.txt << still getting calls to getaddrinfo it looks like | [18:22] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcMTnO ) | [18:22] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00041263 = 11.3886 BTC [-] {4} | [18:23] |
| trinque | that's a hilarious warning | [18:24] |
| jurov | ouch | [18:25] |
| mircea_popescu | o brother | [18:25] |
| mircea_popescu | ITS IN BOOST | [18:25] |
| ben_vulpes | i know | [18:28] |
| ben_vulpes | da woist | [18:29] |
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| mod6 | ben_vulpes: you did get Eulora built tho 'eh?! | [18:39] |
| mircea_popescu | was it ubuntu in the end ? | [18:39] |
| ben_vulpes | also code review please: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html#ak47.sh | [18:42] |
| assbot | a tour of bitcoind booting to its first thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcOQRm ) | [18:43] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00041078 = 14.4595 BTC [-] {2} | [18:45] |
| thestringpuller | http://i.imgur.com/QoTEOO2.gif << such derp | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu | the happy "done!" printout | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu | awww. the words of a man in old dull pain./ | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu | thestringpuller i wonder briefly why these tards don't do something useful with their time, instead of making pointless "infographs" that make no sense, represent no data and interest no one. | [18:47] |
| mircea_popescu | but then again... | [18:47] |
| ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: 'twas | [18:49] |
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| jurov | that's incredible picture... why it does not go on at least to 2100, i wonder | [18:59] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00042242 = 9.7368 BTC [+] {2} | [19:05] |
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| mod6 | ok, i've got a patch i created myself (post application of patches: gentoo/uclibc/PIE) for gcc... just trying to get it to work with emerge. | [19:08] |
| mod6 | patch applies manually just fine, seems to choak when used by emerge becuase of directory levels or something. hopefully can overcome this... | [19:09] |
| ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-06-2015#1170473 << http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_excising-dns-lookups-from-bitcoind-asciilifeforms-patches.html i did my homework boss | [19:11] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 01:43:37; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: you now have homework. it being, to read & actually grok the sequence of 4 'dns thermonuke' patches. | [19:11] |
| assbot | excising DNS lookups from bitcoind: asciilifeform's patches ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcR82X ) | [19:11] |
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| williamdunne | I think I found Kim's child | [19:32] |
| williamdunne | http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3an9iz/iama_23_year_old_from_the_uk_who_can_end_the/ | [19:32] |
| assbot | IamA 23 year old from the UK who can end the austerity and inequality that we are facing, but I am ignored by the media and even my own political party AMA! : IAmA ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcT6Ae ) | [19:32] |
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| cazalla | wru scoopy | [19:34] |
| cazalla | http://qntra.net/2015/06/fatf-concerns-regarding-use-of-bitcoin-by-terrorists/ | [19:34] |
| assbot | FATF: Concerns Regarding Use Of Bitcoin By Terrorists | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcTi2z ) | [19:34] |
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| williamdunne | wru? | [19:36] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170978 << yes, it is. i suspected. | [19:36] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 21:21:49; mircea_popescu: ITS IN BOOST | [19:36] |
| asciilifeform | but there could be no talk of removing it without first removing from bitcoind | [19:36] |
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| asciilifeform | it may be possible to amputate it with linker shenanigans | [19:37] |
| asciilifeform | but it ~will~ have to come out | [19:37] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170915 << precisely ~not~ what i was asking for. this is how idiot sc4mz0r did it - as a one-time thing | [19:38] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 17:56:12; punkman: asciilifeform: I think the state of the art is: you send X BTC to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE then new genesis block assigns X newcoin to originating address, or something along these lines | [19:38] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00042282 = 6.4269 BTC [+] | [19:48] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53106 @ 0.00041654 = 22.1208 BTC [-] | [20:27] |
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| funkenstein_ | i'm doubt it's what you are referring to, but the "atomic transaction.. btc from x to y and Ztc from y to x all in one all-or-nothing TX, has supposedly been implemented by mercury exchange | [20:31] |
| funkenstein_ | which unfortunately uses java 8, and when I was trying to test I didn't even get as far as building OpenJDK 8 | [20:32] |
| BingoBoingo | http://qntra.net/2015/06/xotika-tv-bitcoin-live-adult-entertainment-reaches-beta/ | [20:41] |
| assbot | XOtika.tv Bitcoin Live Adult Entertainment Reaches Beta | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1H7uUyT ) | [20:41] |
| BingoBoingo | ^ Naphex | [20:42] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00042231 = 12.3315 BTC [+] | [20:59] |
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| mircea_popescu | !up SuchWow | [21:14] |
| -assbot- | You voiced SuchWow for 30 minutes. | [21:14] |
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| SuchWow | why hello there | [21:14] |
| SuchWow | i've been gone for 2-3 months, tl;dr me the best parts | [21:14] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/10/30/the-cost-of-shitogramming/ << check her out | [21:14] |
| assbot | The cost of shitogramming in Ossasepia ... ( http://bit.ly/1GBpHvE ) | [21:14] |
| SuchWow | and what happened to fluffypony | [21:14] |
| SuchWow | oh, is still here | [21:15] |
| SuchWow | mainly i'm just curious | [21:15] |
| SuchWow | as to the current sentiment | [21:15] |
| mircea_popescu | who were you again ? | [21:15] |
| SuchWow | overall | [21:15] |
| mircea_popescu | !gettrust SuchWow | [21:15] |
| assbot | SuchWow is not registered in WoT. | [21:15] |
| SuchWow | I was a founding op of #dogecoin lol | [21:15] |
| SuchWow | and i've never been interested | [21:15] |
| SuchWow | in bot trust games lol | [21:15] |
| mircea_popescu | mkay. | [21:16] |
| SuchWow | u can search ur logs for more, i've had a few mildly amusing exchanges here (not really tho | [21:16] |
| cazalla | SuchWow, is this the day where you check if #b-a is still around long after dogecoin was put to sleep? | [21:17] |
| SuchWow | cazalla: clearly you haven't been watching dogecoin charts, and even more clearly, you have no idea who i am. | [21:19] |
| SuchWow | or what i do, etc. | [21:19] |
| SuchWow | but have fun with your attempted cajoles lol | [21:19] |
| cazalla | SuchWow, you mean i don't know chinese exchanges pump it up with fake volume to fool westerners? | [21:20] |
| SuchWow | now i get why you only voice ppl under certain conditions | [21:20] |
| SuchWow | cazalla: if you say so, i really and honestly wouldn't know anything about that | [21:20] |
| cazalla | what conditions are they? | [21:20] |
| SuchWow | i dunno, you're here in this chan, i haven't been here for months | [21:20] |
| SuchWow | you tell me | [21:20] |
| SuchWow | you're the one making subtly degrading comments towards me based on total ignorance | [21:21] |
| SuchWow | so perhaps the rules have changed | [21:21] |
| * | SuchWow yawns | [21:21] |
| cazalla | people often up others that /join the channel.. sorta like answering a knock at the door? just being polite ya know, there is no judgement one way or the other until you open your mouth | [21:21] |
| ben_vulpes | altcoins are retarded, you're going to get prodded when you show up here pumping them. | [21:22] |
| ben_vulpes | big whoop. | [21:22] |
| SuchWow | cazalla: i've been upped over a dozen times here, thanks | [21:22] |
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| SuchWow | it was not my idea to bring up altcoins in the discussion | [21:22] |
| SuchWow | someone asked who i was, i reminded them, and then you started in with ur bullshit | [21:23] |
| SuchWow | doesn't bother me at all tho tbh | [21:23] |
| ben_vulpes | heh. but you're here! who could resist taking a shot! | [21:23] |
| SuchWow | :D | [21:23] |
| ben_vulpes | > ur bullshit | [21:23] |
| ben_vulpes | > doesn't bother me | [21:23] |
| ben_vulpes | mhhhhhhhm | [21:23] |
| SuchWow | well i'll be more clear | [21:23] |
| SuchWow | implying that i have knowledge of what he was saying | [21:23] |
| SuchWow | is the bullshit part | [21:23] |
| SuchWow | what he actually said cold be true,, i woudln't know lol | [21:23] |
| ben_vulpes | we all do is the funny part | [21:23] |
| SuchWow | i just saw one of your 'members' spamming in another chan | [21:24] |
| ben_vulpes | we're all complicit in the altcoin pump and dump nao! | [21:24] |
| SuchWow | and said 'hey, why not see what they'er up to' | [21:24] |
| ben_vulpes | winding up altcoiners, today | [21:24] |
| cazalla | SuchWow, you're the one that said check out the charts.. i did and btc38 is supposedly 85% of the dogecoin trade | [21:24] |
| SuchWow | since btc has returned to volatility again | [21:24] |
| SuchWow | and i l ike to trade 796 at 50:1 instead of playing poker these days | [21:24] |
| mircea_popescu | lol what, the proposition is that dogecoin still exists ?! | [21:24] |
| SuchWow | cazalla: pretty sure cryptsy is still #1, but haven't checked honestly | [21:24] |
| SuchWow | cazalla: my comment was more about you saying doge had been 'put to sleep' | [21:25] |
| SuchWow | when in reality it has returned close to 400% recently | [21:25] |
| cazalla | pretty sure but haven't checked.. ok sorta makes sense why you'd be involved in dogecoin to begin with | [21:25] |
| ben_vulpes | [21:25] | |
| SuchWow | cazalla: there you go again. Why do you think i am involved with dogecoin? | [21:25] |
| SuchWow | you keep using that as an insult | [21:25] |
| SuchWow | but i'm not involved with dogecoin | [21:25] |
| SuchWow | and haven't been for a long time | [21:26] |
| cazalla | SuchWow, you brought it up by bragging about being a founder of #dogecoin (wow, such bragworthy, not) | [21:26] |
| ben_vulpes | you're not anyone, how could you be involved with anything... | [21:26] |
| SuchWow | so keep on with that delusiohn. it would seem YOU know more than ME about it lol | [21:26] |
| SuchWow | cazalla: i was asked 'who are you again' | [21:26] |
| SuchWow | i answered | [21:26] |
| SuchWow | that's it | [21:26] |
| SuchWow | the rest wqas you | [21:26] |
| ben_vulpes | SuchWow: yeah who are you actually | [21:26] |
| SuchWow | dealwithit.jpg | [21:26] |
| williamdunne | SuchWow: You mentioned the dogecoin thing, I also assumed you're still involved | [21:26] |
| cazalla | umad.gif | [21:26] |
| SuchWow | well | [21:26] |
| SuchWow | 6 months ago when i was last here | [21:27] |
| mircea_popescu | http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8p818rhXu1qm11cfo1_500.gif << actual gif. | [21:27] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GBqsVv ) | [21:27] |
| SuchWow | that was what/who everyone knew me as | [21:27] |
| SuchWow | that is generally my reputation | [21:27] |
| cazalla | SuchWow, being involved in dogecoin at some point is not something you go around bragging | [21:27] |
| SuchWow | clearly it rings a bell to none of you | [21:27] |
| SuchWow | and you just keep asking me over and over lol | [21:27] |
| ben_vulpes | i tried to short it once | [21:27] |
| ben_vulpes | but i'm retarded so | [21:27] |
| SuchWow | i'm not bragging? i was answering a question asked of me | [21:27] |
| SuchWow | y'all dense as fuck | [21:27] |
| SuchWow | THAT is what (if anything) you would remember me from | [21:27] |
| SuchWow | and if you didn't want to know | [21:28] |
| SuchWow | you shouldn't have asked | [21:28] |
| SuchWow | hostile crowd here | [21:28] |
| mircea_popescu | well yeah. | [21:28] |
| cazalla | there is no hostility, you're just a little touchy | [21:28] |
| SuchWow | I'm the touchy one? LOL!! | [21:28] |
| ben_vulpes | lighten up | [21:28] |
| mircea_popescu | ^ | [21:28] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00042231 = 3.7797 BTC [+] | [21:28] |
| SuchWow | ok club | [21:28] |
| SuchWow | i've answered all of your questions | [21:28] |
| ben_vulpes | not really - who are you? | [21:28] |
| SuchWow | despite being accused of shit for doing so | [21:28] |
| SuchWow | nobody has answered my questions tho | [21:29] |
| SuchWow | lol | [21:29] |
| mircea_popescu | !rate SuchWow 1 answered all questions, still no idea who he is. | [21:29] |
| assbot | SuchWow is not registered in WoT. | [21:29] |
| mircea_popescu | oh. | [21:29] |
| ben_vulpes | aw what a shame. | [21:29] |
| mircea_popescu | !s suchwow | [21:29] |
| assbot | 263 results for 'suchwow' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=suchwow | [21:29] |
| ben_vulpes | try again in six months? | [21:29] |
| SuchWow | wut? | [21:29] |
| SuchWow | you don't read do you lol | [21:29] |
| SuchWow | [20:11:46] <+SuchWow> and i've never been interested | [21:29] |
| SuchWow | [20:11:49] <+SuchWow> in bot trust games lol | [21:30] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2014#806031 | [21:30] |
| assbot | Logged on 23-08-2014 07:41:30; SuchWow: i've NEVER ONCE talked here lol | [21:30] |
| mircea_popescu | ok. | [21:30] |
| SuchWow | not here, not -otc | [21:30] |
| SuchWow | yet i trade successfully for 2 years | [21:30] |
| SuchWow | without these things lol | [21:30] |
| ben_vulpes | so? | [21:30] |
| mircea_popescu | so ? people cook successfully without running water and things | [21:30] |
| mircea_popescu | in nigeria. | [21:30] |
| cazalla | i can hold my breath under water for 30 seconds.. | [21:30] |
| SuchWow | anyhow i will restate why i joined this chan again | [21:30] |
| ben_vulpes | why? | [21:30] |
| SuchWow | one of your 'members' spammed an ad in another chan to join here | [21:30] |
| mircea_popescu | who where ? | [21:30] |
| SuchWow | i remembered being active here long ago | [21:30] |
| SuchWow | and decided to rejoin | [21:30] |
| SuchWow | upon joining, i asked what the current sentiment of btc was here | [21:31] |
| SuchWow | and then all this doge shit started up | [21:31] |
| ben_vulpes | oh that | [21:31] |
| ben_vulpes | "grumpy" i'd say | [21:31] |
| ben_vulpes | boost is all fucked up | [21:31] |
| mircea_popescu | SuchWow http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/#selection-101.0-103.32 read that. | [21:31] |
| assbot | #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LdZQx4 ) | [21:31] |
| cazalla | SuchWow, so you gonna paint the #b-a fence, wax the #b-a floor or wut? | [21:31] |
| SuchWow | from #bitcoin-pricetalk today: [17:47:39] |
[21:31] |
| ben_vulpes | bitbet just lost a few months of profit | [21:31] |
| ben_vulpes | uh | [21:31] |
| mircea_popescu | !s sevenx | [21:32] |
| assbot | 0 results for 'sevenx' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sevenx | [21:32] |
| mircea_popescu | o.O | [21:32] |
| ben_vulpes | oh but we have a new rss bot that's new | [21:32] |
| SuchWow | ben_vulpes: i feel ya, grumpy seems about right | [21:32] |
| mircea_popescu | the things that happen in the internets truck make me feel old and out of touch | [21:32] |
| SuchWow | and yes, i get this chan is professional, and above my head, that's why i left lol | [21:32] |
| mircea_popescu | so go play eulora | [21:32] |
| ben_vulpes | and i guess is deedbot new since you last were here? | [21:32] |
| SuchWow | again, it was just the spam that made me come back and say hi :) | [21:32] |
| mircea_popescu | no wait nm, need a rating for that. | [21:32] |
| ben_vulpes | aha zing | [21:32] |
| SuchWow | i really never was a super active participant | [21:33] |
| SuchWow | just a newb tryna learn :) | [21:33] |
| ben_vulpes | no man i have this remembory | [21:33] |
| ben_vulpes | of like | [21:33] |
| ben_vulpes | doge | [21:33] |
| mircea_popescu | lmao. | [21:33] |
| SuchWow | bitcoin is enough tho, adding securities on top of that, out of my league haha :) | [21:33] |
| SuchWow | doge recent performance has been pretty amazing tho | [21:33] |
| assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [21:33] |
| SuchWow | and i say that from an outside perspective | [21:33] |
| mod6 | check out the /topic & read at least 6 months of logs. | [21:33] |
| SuchWow | got a real jobj 9 months ago | [21:34] |
| mircea_popescu | nbews in past 6 months : s.mpoe almost went to shit but recovered, i lost the berkshire bet, s.mg launched eulora, s.nsa's phuctor delivered 60 or so broken rsa moduli | [21:34] |
| SuchWow | work WAY too much to trade anymore | [21:34] |
| mircea_popescu | there's actually a LOT | [21:34] |
| SuchWow | nice lol | [21:34] |
| ben_vulpes | oh yeah mp lost the berkshire bet | [21:34] |
| mircea_popescu | deedbot came online, | [21:34] |
| SuchWow | anyhow i'll poof after the up goes down | [21:34] |
| SuchWow | is good to know y'all are still here and srs about shit | [21:34] |
| mircea_popescu | we got that lawsky schmuck fired, | [21:34] |
| ben_vulpes | don't go! | [21:34] |
| SuchWow | that in and of itself kinda answers my original question | [21:34] |
| mircea_popescu | gavin got shot in the head, cusipzzz got exposed | [21:34] |
| ben_vulpes | we're still regaling you with our victories | [21:35] |
| mircea_popescu | jesus god it's pages of shit. | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | right but | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | when will the bitcoin regs | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | be published in the weekly journal or whatev | [21:35] |
| ben_vulpes | !s cusipzzz | [21:35] |
| assbot | 14 results for 'cusipzzz' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cusipzzz | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | that's what i can't figure out | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | lol cuspizzz | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | i do like that guy | [21:35] |
| mircea_popescu | qntra is older than 6 months no ? | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | mr 'weekend tank' | [21:35] |
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| ben_vulpes | SuchWow: you volunteering to summarize the court's proceedings? | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | srsly tho, only thing i can find | [21:35] |
| mircea_popescu | barelky older. | [21:35] |
| ben_vulpes | aha | [21:35] |
| ben_vulpes | deedbot lol | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | is that nydfs is final once published | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | in that weekly register | [21:35] |
| SuchWow | when will that happen? | [21:35] |
| mircea_popescu | SuchWow nobody asked them anything. | [21:36] |
| ben_vulpes | who cares | [21:36] |
| SuchWow | everyone in btcland should? | [21:36] |
| * | assbot gives voice to deedbot- | [21:36] |
| SuchWow | because if rumors about china banning are relevant | [21:36] |
| SuchWow | than ACTUAL FACTS about regulation should be pertinent? | [21:36] |
| ben_vulpes | by the time the usg realizes that there's a btc-shaped train headed its way it will be too late for it to do anything. | [21:36] |
| mircea_popescu | i dun think you understand how teh btcworld works. | [21:36] |
| ben_vulpes | naw it'll be great SuchWow | [21:36] |
| ben_vulpes | we'll get to see btc users go to town on china | [21:36] |
| SuchWow | i think nobody knows the answer to my question lol | [21:36] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15576 @ 0.00041577 = 6.476 BTC [-] {2} | [21:36] |
| * | ben_vulpes chants "hash by hand. hash by hand." | [21:37] |
| SuchWow | and if nobody here knows that answer, than that tells me what i need to know lol | [21:37] |
| ben_vulpes | bitcoin-assets aka bitcoin doomsday cult | [21:37] |
| SuchWow | (i just trade btc/usd on 796 at 50:1 for gambling purposes) | [21:37] |
| SuchWow | way more fun than poker | [21:37] |
| ben_vulpes | repeat! | [21:37] |
| mircea_popescu | "main calls AppInit, which itself calls AppInit2 catching all exceptions in two seperate logic branches, shuting itself down if the second layer of AppInit doesn't fire correctly:" | [21:37] |
| SuchWow | i'm currently bullish, after a LONG time of being bearish | [21:37] |
| mircea_popescu | for crying out loud. | [21:37] |
| SuchWow | hence why i was curious as to the general sentiment here | [21:37] |
| ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: what!? | [21:38] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes i just keep forgetting the horrest parts of bitcoin | [21:38] |
| ben_vulpes | it almost looks normal now | [21:38] |
| ben_vulpes | weep for me | [21:38] |
| mircea_popescu | then go through these phases of he's kidding no wait, wait, i recall this. but it couldn't be. o yes it is. | [21:38] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43996 @ 0.00041263 = 18.1541 BTC [-] {3} | [21:38] |
| mircea_popescu | mysterious BDB shenanigans on application shutdown << it doesn't have atomic index operations. which means, that it can has updated index but unupdated data. | [21:39] |
| SuchWow | i ofc assume that sentimentality on btc prices affects the securities tradded with it lol | [21:39] |
| mircea_popescu | at least that's what i understand of it. | [21:39] |
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| * | assbot gives voice to hanbot | [21:42] |
| ben_vulpes | ah CAddrDB("cr+").LoadAddresses(); i missed you | [21:42] |
| SuchWow | Anyhow, it's been a pleasure speaking with you all, and should I ever quit my job and start daytrading BTC/USD fulltime again, I will return. I will give back the last 2 minutes I have of being 'upped' to the floor. :) | [21:42] |
| mircea_popescu | cheers. | [21:42] |
| ben_vulpes | you were keeping track? | [21:42] |
| * | SuchWow pours shots for everyone before he goes | [21:42] |
| ben_vulpes | this was a deliberately orchestrated event! | [21:42] |
| mircea_popescu | "Even though the application's default behavior is to create the ~/.bitcoind directory itself unprompted (and yet not the bitcoin.conf file that the damn thing expects in there), if you pass it a data directory that doesn't exist, it refuses to create it." | [21:42] |
| mircea_popescu | ahahaha | [21:42] |
| ben_vulpes | i feel hoodwinked. | [21:42] |
| mircea_popescu | o god. | [21:42] |
| ben_vulpes | i'm getting lazy with pronouns. | [21:43] |
| ben_vulpes | but it's hard to write well wearing asbestos gloves. | [21:43] |
| mircea_popescu | Bitcoind as written would be the best possible example of condescending software design if it were worthy of being called "designed" instead of "crufted together by a monotonically increasingly febrile group of contributors". << i can sign that. | [21:43] |
| SuchWow | BOTTOMS UP! CHEERS! KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT MEN! AND WOMEN! AND OTHERS! SEE YOU IN 2016 WHEN THIS SHIT GETS SUPER REAL :D | [21:44] |
| ben_vulpes | oh fuck off | [21:44] |
| ben_vulpes | !down SuchWow | [21:44] |
| * | assbot removes voice from SuchWow | [21:44] |
| mircea_popescu | ./proggy -? << iirc this is the old ms-dos standard. | [21:44] |
| mircea_popescu | because it had to be different from the -h convention | [21:44] |
| ben_vulpes | the cover | [21:44] |
| ben_vulpes | it is so complete | [21:44] |
| mircea_popescu | hm ? | [21:45] |
| ben_vulpes | visual basic | [21:45] |
| ben_vulpes | old ms-dos cli flags | [21:45] |
| ben_vulpes | targeting windows | [21:45] |
| mircea_popescu | lol | [21:45] |
| ben_vulpes | it's almost convincing | [21:45] |
| mircea_popescu | yeah | [21:45] |
| mircea_popescu | certainly nobody still young enough to pick up chicks would know wtf -? | [21:46] |
| mircea_popescu | (and no, i'm not an exception - i have to have the chicks pick up chicks for me!) | [21:46] |
| ben_vulpes | poor old man | [21:47] |
| ben_vulpes | poor, poor you | [21:47] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes btw, as a matter of course articles like that should contain a "this is how you get your system to reproduce my screenshots" thing, with emacs settings etc. | [21:48] |
| mircea_popescu | help people learn the shit you use makes more people use the shit you use makes you less likely to have to learn shit other people use. | [21:48] |
| ben_vulpes | e for student | [21:49] |
| ben_vulpes | exercise* | [21:49] |
| mircea_popescu | it doth not have the great degree of generality that a good exercise makes. | [21:49] |
| ben_vulpes | M-x gdb | [21:49] |
| ben_vulpes | okay okay | [21:49] |
| * | assbot gives voice to mats | [21:51] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes and yet, author knows enough to use strprintf rather than any other of the countless vulnerable c string things | [21:52] |
| mircea_popescu | in which aspect c is very much like php | [21:52] |
| mircea_popescu | ( http://locklessinc.com/articles/dynamic_cstrings/ for the curious ) | [21:52] |
| assbot | Dynamic Strings in C ... ( http://bit.ly/1GBrSiV ) | [21:52] |
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| ben_vulpes | does argue for a rather sophisticated greybeard | [21:58] |
| ben_vulpes | the most elaborate programming exercise - write something world-changing in a style nobody would ever attribute to you | [21:58] |
| mircea_popescu | myeah. it just doesn't wash, half the "expert" population of c-ers doesn't actually comprehend c string safety | [21:59] |
| mircea_popescu | (admitting such exists) | [21:59] |
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| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes incidentally is http://cascadianhacker.com/headers/headlights.jpg a muntz rocket ? | [22:03] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GBsyF5 ) | [22:03] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/05/26_just-another-day-in-sunny-cascadia.html << nice job. | [22:05] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [22:05] |
| assbot | just another day in sunny cascadia ... ( http://bit.ly/1GBsFQN ) | [22:05] |
| ben_vulpes | muntz the car brand or muntz the guy who made TVs? | [22:05] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00040941 = 12.3232 BTC [-] {5} | [22:05] |
| ben_vulpes | either way, no | [22:05] |
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| ben_vulpes | unless you're making a sophisticated joke about horsepower and snipping arbitrary cables... | [22:06] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes he also made a car. | [22:08] |
| mircea_popescu | like 1000 or so ever made. valuable antique now | [22:08] |
| mircea_popescu | http://onlytruecars.com/data_images/models/muntz-jet/muntz-jet-01.jpg | [22:08] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GBsMMr ) | [22:08] |
| mircea_popescu | but yeah, doesn't actually look like it | [22:09] |
| * | ahmed__ is now known as ahmed_ | [22:10] |
| mircea_popescu | !up ahmed_ | [22:11] |
| -assbot- | You voiced ahmed_ for 30 minutes. | [22:11] |
| * | assbot gives voice to ahmed_ | [22:11] |
| ben_vulpes | yeah, i was looking at that. | [22:11] |
| ahmed_ | ty | [22:11] |
| ben_vulpes | pretty | [22:12] |
| mircea_popescu | ahmed_ sure. who're you ? | [22:13] |
| mircea_popescu | not the dead terrorist i hope ? | [22:13] |
| ben_vulpes | heh - onlytruecars.com does redirect shenanigans | [22:13] |
| ahmed_ | hahahahahah | [22:13] |
| ahmed_ | nopeee | [22:13] |
| ben_vulpes | hm | [22:13] |
| ahmed_ | just a fellow bitcoin user | [22:13] |
| ben_vulpes | who /is/ running a public node? | [22:13] |
| ahmed_ | i am | [22:13] |
| mircea_popescu | "i'm the live terrorist, mutha! PEW PEW PEW!!!" | [22:13] |
| ben_vulpes | wcgw | [22:13] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;ud what vulps said | [22:14] |
| gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Palintology&page=2 | It is believed they held a peculiarly close relationship with the species vulpes ... A mindset which doesn't allow someone to stop saying the same things over and ... | [22:14] |
| mircea_popescu | palintology. clearly. | [22:14] |
| ben_vulpes | "what could go wrong" | [22:14] |
| ben_vulpes | anyways these newly muntzed nodes dun wanna connect to anything off of irc | [22:15] |
| mircea_popescu | what's in the log ? | [22:15] |
| mircea_popescu | (it is possibru nothing much still runs on irc) | [22:15] |
| ben_vulpes | not much useful. standard boot up and then silence. | [22:16] |
| ben_vulpes | hm. | [22:16] |
| mircea_popescu | does it attempt to connect to anything ? | [22:16] |
| mircea_popescu | nmap it | [22:17] |
| mircea_popescu | wireshark it | [22:18] |
| mircea_popescu | SPY ON IT!!1 | [22:18] |
| cazalla | chark is hongry | [22:20] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19945 @ 0.00040649 = 8.1074 BTC [-] {2} | [22:21] |
| cazalla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxUxe9hFU_M | [22:28] |
| assbot | [VICE] presents-- *Nug Up or Shut Up* --...(real Joe Rogan selfsuck Humiliation Video) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K5AGjk ) | [22:28] |
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| ben_vulpes | i'm trying to reason about it first. | [22:33] |
| ben_vulpes | reasoning about software? | [22:33] |
| ben_vulpes | BIG MISTAKE | [22:33] |
| ben_vulpes | on the topic of the cost of complexity tossed in because someone doesn't understand things | [22:34] |
| mircea_popescu | beat it first. | [22:34] |
| mod6 | ben_vulpes: what version & patches & os? | [22:34] |
| mircea_popescu | reason comes after tears. | [22:34] |
| ben_vulpes | now i have to load the IRC protocol up into my head to figure out precisely how it's derivsupposed to turn IRC connections into peers | [22:34] |
| mircea_popescu | http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7wczaIQqx1ryqodxo1_1280.jpg << here's the famous hyperborean stone whale. speshul for cazalla | [22:34] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1K5AS2j ) | [22:35] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes just looks at hostnames from /who list and spams them | [22:35] |
| ben_vulpes | mod6: everything up through thermonyuuke | [22:35] |
| mod6 | ah | [22:35] |
| mircea_popescu | also scarfs up join messages. | [22:35] |
| mod6 | ben_vulpes: & ubuntu? | [22:35] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, i like em thick but maybe not that big (i'd still hit it) | [22:36] |
| mircea_popescu | me2 | [22:36] |
| cazalla | if i can see ribs when she reaches for the sky, she needs a good meal before we bang | [22:37] |
| cazalla | mind you, this is all theory, i've been banging the same tired old hole for years | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu | ribs are notbad either. | [22:39] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10055 @ 0.0004042 = 4.0642 BTC [-] | [22:39] |
| mircea_popescu | http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8gcpfNwkx1rb2yujo1_1280.png example. | [22:39] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ita4Vk ) | [22:39] |
| mod6 | re: slutennis "Wouldn't you watch a sport like that ?" << f yes. | [22:40] |
| mircea_popescu | haha! | [22:40] |
| mircea_popescu | ikr ? | [22:41] |
| mod6 | for sure. | [22:41] |
| mircea_popescu | pay per view! | [22:41] |
| mod6 | *nod* | [22:41] |
| * | assbot removes voice from ahmed_ | [22:41] |
| mircea_popescu | people^H preachin' retards keep getting in the way of women doing the soirt of shit that'd make them awesome. | [22:42] |
| mircea_popescu | i guarantee you nobody's saying anything to the slutennis champ but "ma'am" | [22:42] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, i mean something like this where you see the rib cage under the titties http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/29/2451CDB900000578-2890613-image-m-146_1419893680953.jpg | [22:42] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1K5Btkj ) | [22:42] |
| mod6 | foxtail would command respect for sure. | [22:43] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla the problem with her is that no tits. if she had d+ knockers the ribcage'd be a + | [22:43] |
| mircea_popescu | mod6 and the thing is, that arrangement'd pretty much kill anyone but a young woman. | [22:43] |
| mircea_popescu | sweat to death in that casing. plus fucking heels. | [22:43] |
| mod6 | yeah, that shoes might be the problem. but... war is hell. | [22:44] |
| mod6 | :D | [22:44] |
| mod6 | girls would have to do cart-wheels to get to a ball on the otherside of the court as opposed to running. | [22:45] |
| mircea_popescu | holy shit prolly. | [22:45] |
| mircea_popescu | they'd need special "always ready" cartwheel gloves | [22:46] |
| mircea_popescu | to protect fingers while doing it with a raquet | [22:46] |
| mod6 | ah, yeah. hmm. didn't consider that. | [22:46] |
| mircea_popescu | nuts tho. i hadn't realised cartwheels'd necessarily be a big part. | [22:46] |
| mircea_popescu | in other news, i still dunno what event to do next for eulora. | [22:47] |
| mod6 | the skirts could have a quick "clasp" or some sort of attachment mechinism to keep hands free while cart-wheeling. | [22:47] |
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| cazalla | mircea_popescu, but how many skinny girls have D+ cups? (natural not implants with a gap larger than my front fucking teeth) | [22:48] |
| mod6 | oh I vote for the trip to magial places on the island. | [22:48] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla few. but man... | [22:48] |
| cazalla | creating a bitbet.. micon cops a plea deal.. does anyone think prior to 2016 is a fair time scale? | [22:50] |
| mircea_popescu | he definitely will tho. who's gonna bet against you | [22:50] |
| cazalla | who knows.. and he might plea but not agree to do so this year | [22:52] |
| ben_vulpes | mod6: ya, tis ubuntu | [22:53] |
| mircea_popescu | mebbe i guess | [22:54] |
| ben_vulpes | http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000043.html << i have a hunch we're going to see approximately the same ratio in irc | [23:03] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1K5CFUO ) | [23:03] |
| mircea_popescu | just about. | [23:03] |
| ben_vulpes | are there some scripts kicking around for connecting to arbitrary nodes? | [23:04] |
| mircea_popescu | replace the file where bitcoin saves its nodes with your own preference. | [23:04] |
| ben_vulpes | https://github.com/ayeowch/bitnodes << perhaps... | [23:05] |
| assbot | ayeowch/bitnodes · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1K5CKYN ) | [23:05] |
| ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: sorry, unclear. scripts for crawling/pinging nodes. | [23:06] |
| mircea_popescu | what's wrong with alf's ? | [23:07] |
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| ben_vulpes | that one on the list? | [23:07] |
| mircea_popescu | well yeah | [23:08] |
| ben_vulpes | i dunno man i just like reading a bunch of different approaches | [23:08] |
| mircea_popescu | esp if you wish to compare stuff to its results or w/e | [23:08] |
| mircea_popescu | chrome is seriously taking over the internets. | [23:08] |
| mircea_popescu | we're getting another microsoft over here. | [23:09] |
| trinque | big time | [23:09] |
| mircea_popescu | yeah. | [23:09] |
| trinque | can be amusing to think of chrome as a google rootkit | [23:09] |
| mircea_popescu | i see it ~40%. with the next two TOGETHER at 40%. | [23:10] |
| trinque | rather than competing with microsoft or apple in the OS space, they just snuck their way in with their own OS | [23:10] |
| mircea_popescu | yep | [23:10] |
| mircea_popescu | definitely got it. and im sure some idiot "woman in tech" a la carly fiorina is going to bring a shittier apple itunes store on it | [23:10] |
| trinque | read some article where they said this is *precisely* what WebAssembly is | [23:11] |
| trinque | an answer to the app store thing from google | [23:11] |
| trinque | even though yeah, they've got the android one | [23:11] |
| mircea_popescu | android thing was just a decoy. | [23:12] |
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| mats | plus side, crimeware never escapes the sandbox. | [23:12] |
| mircea_popescu | minus side, nothing other than crimeware's worth doing anymore. | [23:12] |
| ben_vulpes | ALL SOFTWARE IS CRIMEWARE | [23:13] |
| mats | rude | [23:13] |
| ben_vulpes | COWER CITIZENS | [23:13] |
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| trinque | to think, people will be able to play oculus angry birds right from facebook | [23:15] |
| trinque | and they say progress is dead | [23:15] |
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| mats | anybody have any idea wtf this reactive programming stuff is | [23:16] |
| trinque | https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/457390734_640.jpg | [23:16] |
| mats | and plz no buzz words | [23:16] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1K5Dihm ) | [23:16] |
| mircea_popescu | mats mostly "oo v2.0" | [23:17] |
| mats | oo as in... object oriented? | [23:18] |
| mircea_popescu | yeah. the previous buzzword wankatron | [23:19] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10145 @ 0.00040319 = 4.0904 BTC [-] | [23:22] |
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| BingoBoingo | Have yet another new-old machine | [23:27] |
| BingoBoingo | 2009 vintage acer laptop, single core amd 64 proccessor 3GB ram.... Disadvantages: Huge | [23:28] |
| mircea_popescu | "advantages : vibrates pleasantly" | [23:30] |
| BingoBoingo | advantage: was free | [23:30] |
| mircea_popescu | can't argue with that. | [23:31] |
| BingoBoingo | ascquaintance was moving and did not want to move this HUGE thing | [23:31] |
| asciilifeform | ;;late tell ben_vulpes what happened to posting debug.log | [23:32] |
| gribble | Error: "late" is not a valid command. | [23:32] |
| asciilifeform | ;;later tell ben_vulpes what happened to posting debug.log | [23:32] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [23:32] |
| mircea_popescu | a too big to move laptop. | [23:32] |
| BingoBoingo | Well, he's moving into his girlfriend's place and long ago she bought him a bunch of Apple shit to replace it so indeed too big to move laptop | [23:33] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: pardon? | [23:34] |
| cazalla | come with a hdd? burn it with fire BingoBoingo lol | [23:34] |
| ben_vulpes | oh, you want to see debug.log | [23:34] |
| asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: i see in the logs where you had a node fail to snarf seed from the old irc | [23:35] |
| BingoBoingo | cazalla: Looks like the original 160 GB hard drive. I'll probably end up applicancing it into a node | [23:35] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1171410 << 'chrome' (or, more practically, the open-source trimmable version 'chromium') is the only remaining graphical browser for unixlikes that isn't screamingly retarded | [23:36] |
| assbot | Logged on 22-06-2015 02:05:08; mircea_popescu: chrome is seriously taking over the internets. | [23:36] |
| trinque | asciilifeform: still comes with tasty binary treats, apparently | [23:37] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/3GFCEPM | [23:37] |
| assbot | dpaste: 3GFCEPM ... ( http://bit.ly/1IYn5sO ) | [23:37] |
| trinque | or at least they're leaking through | [23:37] |
| asciilifeform | trinque: that's what the shears are for | [23:37] |
| asciilifeform | trinque: also help to run on weird archs | [23:37] |
| ben_vulpes | the irc "logic" is mind-numbingly dumb | [23:38] |
| asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: be so kind as to try an experiment. ping the box whose hostname i snipped out. notice - not same ip. replace ip in irc.cpp with this. then run. | [23:38] |
| ben_vulpes | i actually did not notice this. | [23:38] |
| asciilifeform | i noticed. | [23:38] |
| ben_vulpes | ahaha i am so dumb. | [23:38] |
| ben_vulpes | no, i noticed the snip. i figured smarts were involves. | [23:39] |
| ben_vulpes | involved*. | [23:39] |
| asciilifeform | l0l smarts | [23:41] |
| asciilifeform | farts. | [23:41] |
| * | asciilifeform reads the latest two articles from ben_vulpes | [23:42] |
| ben_vulpes | you'll not find much in there. | [23:42] |
| BingoBoingo | At least will find nice headlights in the header | [23:44] |
| asciilifeform | mega-vroom | [23:44] |
| asciilifeform | incidentally, anyone who owns old cars and frequents mechanics would have to be blind to suggest that usd is not palpably inflating | [23:45] |
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| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170972 << btw, anybody got a handy link to what precisely generates the message seen here ? | [23:48] |
| assbot | Logged on 21-06-2015 21:18:37; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/0RT585M.txt << still getting calls to getaddrinfo it looks like | [23:48] |
| asciilifeform | as in, is this a hardcoded idiocy in gcc proper ? its linker ? where ? | [23:49] |
| asciilifeform | a #pragma in glibc ? | [23:49] |
| asciilifeform | btw, i found our shitgnome: http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/no_static_linking.html | [23:50] |
| assbot | Static Linking Considered Harmful ... ( http://bit.ly/1IYonUC ) | [23:50] |
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| asciilifeform | !s drepper | [23:50] |
| assbot | 4 results for 'drepper' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=drepper | [23:50] |
| trinque | !up fartacus | [23:50] |
| * | assbot gives voice to fartacus | [23:50] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu awake ? | [23:51] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00041125 = 14.5583 BTC [+] | [23:51] |
| fartacus | ben_vulpes: this beirc seems like another one of those "hey cool, made something that works in clim. I think I'll go get a job now" projects | [23:51] |
| ben_vulpes | lol hi fartacus | [23:51] |
| trinque | I'm fartacus! | [23:51] |
| fartacus | thing wasn't even showing chan text without switching out of and back into the buffer | [23:52] |
| fartacus | but I bet it's sexy under the hood | [23:52] |
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| ben_vulpes | ahaha | [23:53] |
| ben_vulpes | or if anyone gave a shit and implemented it on allegro it might work | [23:53] |
| ben_vulpes | but who's going to implement a clim irc client on allegro | [23:53] |
| ben_vulpes | p sure we all have vastly better things to be doing | [23:54] |
| asciilifeform | closed-source toolchains can go die in a fire | [23:54] |
| * | asciilifeform and has used allegro, and knows that it is, overall, superior in every way (but this) to the available alternatives | [23:54] |
| thestringpuller | too many softwares named allegra | [23:55] |
| thestringpuller | allegro* | [23:55] |
| asciilifeform | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/134400 << as i understand, drepper 'did it' | [23:55] |
| assbot | Bug #134400 “glibc do not really static compile my project.” : Bugs : glibc package : Ubuntu ... ( http://bit.ly/1H4hmSN ) | [23:55] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: better in every way but source-open-ness? | [23:55] |
| asciilifeform | aha | [23:55] |
| thestringpuller | http://alleg.sourceforge.net/ << asciilifeform is the 2nd result from google, assuming you guise are talking about lisp | [23:55] |
| thestringpuller | but i am assuming* | [23:56] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00040389 = 17.9327 BTC [-] {4} | [23:56] |
| asciilifeform | thestringpuller: ~nothing whatsoever~ to do with allegro common lisp (franz inc.) | [23:56] |
| asciilifeform | which was the subject here | [23:56] |
| asciilifeform | (very confusingly, there was also a 'franz lisp') | [23:56] |
| asciilifeform | http://franz.com/products/allegrocl << vendor page | [23:57] |
| assbot | Allegro Common Lisp ... ( http://bit.ly/1H4hDoQ ) | [23:57] |
| asciilifeform | http://franz.com/success << claimed endorsements. notably absent from list is usg, who i have strong reasons to believe is the main buyer. | [23:58] |
| assbot | Franz Inc: Allegro Common Lisp and Common Lisp Products ... ( http://bit.ly/1H4hO3B ) | [23:58] |
| ben_vulpes | same is true for the major haskell shops. | [23:58] |
| * | asciilifeform personally requisitioned an allegro license & support contract while under usg banners | [23:58] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: and how was it? | [23:58] |
| asciilifeform | spiffy. | [23:59] |
| BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: USG is on that list plenty of times. | [23:59] |
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