Forum logs for 16 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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jurov i doubt most people actually understood it. went to the theatre like it went to church (when everything was in latin) [00:01]
jurov *like they [00:01]
asciilifeform re: actual people: let's take maxwell. notice that, in addition to lacking reddit and dope, he also never had to --- work for a living. [00:02]
jurov which maxwell? [00:02]
asciilifeform (or train to take over a father's bezzlatron) [00:02]
asciilifeform james clerk. [00:02]
asciilifeform the one that matters. [00:02]
mike_c you've done worse. i swear you posted a couple articles of gobbedly gook that had secret messages. [00:02]
mircea_popescu jurov why would they ? [00:02]
mircea_popescu this wasn't a time when theatre was ancient and respected. [00:02]
mircea_popescu no, they went to the theatre like you come here. because it's new and cool and it speaks to you and you can afford to. [00:03]
jurov no other pastime? [00:03]
jurov and executions weren't every day, too [00:03]
mircea_popescu mike_c that wasn't worse, those you could identify as such [00:03]
mircea_popescu no other passtime ?! you kidding me ? [00:03]
mike_c i still haven't identified the secret message. [00:03]
mircea_popescu they had more then than you have now for crying out loud. for one thing, the street was fun [00:03]
mircea_popescu not a fucking parking lot, yet. [00:03]
mircea_popescu people. harlots and scamps and duchesses and everything. [00:04]
mircea_popescu you could entertain yourself indefinitely just following the yakking. [00:04]
jurov well, theatre was extension of the street. and maybe they explained it to each other [00:04]
asciilifeform go find the 'broadside ballads' of the time, for example. [00:04]
mircea_popescu maybe thgey did. [00:04]
mircea_popescu but the fact that they did already speaks, does it not. [00:05]
jurov yes. still very different from understanding the text as is [00:05]
mircea_popescu anyway, let's work it then. [00:05]
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BingoBoingo !up HelpPlease [00:06]
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HelpPlease thanks mate [00:06]
HelpPlease just popped in because one of my refunded bets didn't pay out [00:06]
mircea_popescu She should have died hereafter; << She should have died LATER. [00:07]
mircea_popescu there would have been a time for such a word. << It's not like this was the only opportunity for her to die and she had to take it. [00:07]
mircea_popescu To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow, creeps in this petty pace from day to day to the last syllable of recorded time, << roughly equivalent to "life is what happens while we were waiting for other things" [00:07]
mircea_popescu and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. << "there but for blind luck goes I", just because you're here today doesn't mean another just like you didn't die yesterday, or the day before. [00:07]
mircea_popescu HelpPlease how long ago did that happen ? [00:08]
HelpPlease Not sure, the bet was resolved sometime between now and yesterday. [00:08]
HelpPlease it's marked as refunded but it hasn't been [00:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: shakespeare ported great to ru. [00:09]
mircea_popescu HelpPlease prolly hasn't propagated yet, give it a little. [00:09]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nothing like the exercise in archaeology that reading in the original is for modern en speakers. [00:09]
xanthyos sorry the sentence fragment "*was* resolved between now and..." caused a temporal causality grammar glitch [00:09]
asciilifeform do we have a german here? [00:10]
asciilifeform afaik, they have it even better. [00:10]
xanthyos nein [00:10]
HelpPlease ok, i'll give it some more time [00:11]
jurov how better? they must learn to remember everything till the verb comes? [00:12]
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mircea_popescu lol [00:12]
thickasthieves hehe [00:12]
asciilifeform jurov: better in the sense that there was a contemporary translation that is still largely readable to modern germans without an archaeological bent. [00:12]
mircea_popescu modern english (ie, shakespeare's writ) is readable to [00:13]
cazalla mircea_popescu, ddos back? i see static page on qntra again [00:13]
mircea_popescu LITERATE english speakers today [00:13]
mircea_popescu cazalla myeah. [00:13]
thickasthieves mp is liability to qntra [00:13]
thickasthieves lol [00:13]
thickasthieves leaves a wake of dos [00:13]
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mircea_popescu just means it hurts. [00:14]
thickasthieves thats how you know its workin [00:14]
jurov were there any threats? [00:14]
mircea_popescu yeah, i think qntra is threatening. [00:15]
jurov i mean, some word from perps. or it's "just because". [00:15]
mircea_popescu how would you verify it anyway [00:15]
mircea_popescu but no, some guy claiming he;'s goat and hates bing [00:15]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo* [00:16]
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dossierddosser Hey i ddos u! [00:16]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo has steady haters ?! [00:16]
BingoBoingo Wait, to my knowledge goat doesn't hate me! [00:16]
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mircea_popescu dude i dunno. [00:16]
mircea_popescu !s fuck you [00:16]
assbot 1273 results for 'fuck you' : [00:16]
mircea_popescu ahem. [00:16]
mircea_popescu !s inclusive [00:17]
assbot 32 results for 'inclusive' : [00:17]
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mircea_popescu and i bet you 90% of those are actually correct uses of the term, as opposed to the common derpage. [00:17]
ThickAsThieves that search returns for 'inclusion' too [00:18]
ThickAsThieves what is it, smart or something? [00:18]
mircea_popescu trying to pad the numbers! [00:19]
mircea_popescu 1273:32 is pretty drastic anyway [00:19]
ThickAsThieves it's the inclusive search tool [00:20]
ThickAsThieves bitpay's bitcoin bowl is exclusively available to buy tix with btc first [00:20]
ThickAsThieves not bad [00:21]
jurov !s social cohesion [00:21]
assbot 0 results for 'social cohesion' : [00:21]
ThickAsThieves !s exclusive [00:21]
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ThickAsThieves yep, it's inclusive of exclusion [00:22]
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asciilifeform re: ddos: [00:23]
asciilifeform anyone remember 'hashcash' ? [00:23]
asciilifeform or generally, the era when 'proof of work' meant anti-ddos schemes? [00:23]
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asciilifeform one of my first experiences playing with btc was an attempt to make my ddosers... mine. [00:24]
asciilifeform (no, wasn't good for much) [00:24]
mircea_popescu it's really an idiot's game [00:25]
asciilifeform yes. [00:26]
asciilifeform but the fact of ddos still being a thing at all, reveals catastrophically broken design at large. [00:26]
mircea_popescu yea [00:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.11958355 = 2.9896 BTC [+] {8} [00:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: picture a future net where something akin to wot is baked into the basic routing mechanism. so, a billion derps can make a request and there will be no transmission back until all the actual people get what they came for. etc. [00:29]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ted nelson wanted to accomplish something like this, in his '60s-present concept [00:29]
asciilifeform except, i think, he wanted to use money as the filter. [00:30]
mircea_popescu !s whitelist [00:30]
assbot 47 results for 'whitelist' : [00:31]
mircea_popescu basically... it's a thing lol [00:31]
ThickAsThieves [00:31]
assbot HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable | The Verge [00:31]
ThickAsThieves cable is fukt now [00:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 85 @ 0.13693914 = 11.6398 BTC [+] {8} [00:31]
mats_cd03 on the subject of reproducing this bitfetch thing [00:31]
ThickAsThieves yesssss [00:31]
mats_cd03 where should i host the front- and back-end so i dont get vanned [00:31]
mats_cd03 currently residing in the US so thats a concern for me [00:32]
ThickAsThieves i cant help othe than to say, ask pankkake [00:32]
fluffypony if there are any -asseters that are in Los Angeleeez, Las Vegas, or near-ish Utah, the wife and I will be in LA from Oct 28th to Nov 2nd, and then Utah/Las Vegas from Nov 2nd to Nov 17th [00:32]
mats_cd03 ;;later tell pankkake [00:32]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:32]
asciilifeform whitelist << [00:32]
assbot Logged on 15-10-2014 21:29:19; mats_cd03: on the subject of reproducing this bitfetch thing [00:32]
jurov mats_cd03: i can ask around [00:32]
fluffypony would love to grab a beer or a food [00:32]
asciilifeform 'HardSecurity is like rock. It's strong until broken, when it shatters into unrepairable pieces.' [00:33]
mats_cd03 jurov: thx qt [00:33]
asciilifeform << thanks to diametric [00:35]
assbot Bob and Alice Discover a Mac OPSEC Issue - F-Secure Weblog : News from the Lab [00:35]
asciilifeform ^ everyone is probably familiar with the turds apple's os drops on fat32 file systems when writing [00:35]
asciilifeform but, interesting twists. [00:35]
mats_cd03 i am now counting down til 'poodle' gets leveraged into active remote exploitation [00:36]
mike_c ThickAsThieves: the answer. [00:36]
assbot How much is a share of S.QNTR worth? - Btc Alpha [00:36]
asciilifeform incidentally: [00:36]
mats_cd03 << dis [00:36]
assbot Logged on 15-10-2014 14:34:08; mats_cd03: they could be used for remote exploitation, e.g. non-browser, non-document things [00:36]
asciilifeform try this on for size [00:36]
asciilifeform various sec flaws being 'hangout' leaks is a hypothesis compatible with their continued active exploitation by their authors (usg) [00:37]
mats_cd03 'hangout' ? [00:37]
asciilifeform the script k1dd13z provide a diversionary smoke screen for the actual jobs. [00:37]
asciilifeform !s hangout [00:37]
assbot 34 results for 'hangout' : [00:37]
asciilifeform hangout is what an organized leak (of genuine info or otherwise) is called in the english world. [00:37]
mats_cd03 you making fun of me cause i'm from hk? [00:38]
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asciilifeform no idea what it's called there [00:38]
asciilifeform where i'm from, it's деза. (дезинформация). [00:38]
asciilifeform not, contrary to popular belief, the same as an ordinary lie. [00:39]
penguirker New blog post: [00:44]
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ThickAsThieves lol mike_c I appreciate the work, but i'm not sure it covers my concern [00:51]
ThickAsThieves being that you had to make up numbers AND timelines [00:51]
ThickAsThieves my concern is that they won't sync [00:51]
ThickAsThieves it's a wildly risky stock to buy [00:52]
ThickAsThieves i'm not even sure the risk reward is there at all [00:52]
ThickAsThieves 1 scenario doesnt illustrate much [00:53]
cazalla damn it, have a post ready to go : [00:53]
ThickAsThieves make a qntra ticker bot [00:54]
ThickAsThieves well not ticker [00:54]
ThickAsThieves but a bot that can pm articles [00:54]
ThickAsThieves like when mpex is down, we can still trade [00:55]
cazalla if i could do that, i probably wouldn't be doing qntra [00:55]
asciilifeform cazalla: what would you be doing instead? [00:56]
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BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Who's to say there won't at some point be a "numbers station" that broadcasts Qntra? [00:57]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why numbers? read it like normal radio station [00:57]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I was just imagining RSS done right over the radio. [00:58]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you were probably thinking of blockchain-over-shortwave ? [00:59]
BingoBoingo I've thought about that too. [00:59]
jurov like when mpex is down, we can still trade << this was actually my intention with the receipts. but it isn't worth it [00:59]
cazalla asciilifeform, who knows, i'm just saying if i could write a bot, i'd be doing other things, i cannot so i write news, nothing wrong with that [00:59]
ThickAsThieves bots that were meant to be have a way of appearing over time [01:00]
BingoBoingo Ah, qntra is throwing me 403's nao [01:01]
ThickAsThieves i hate fucking taxes [01:01]
ThickAsThieves but they sure like fucking me [01:01]
cazalla but hey, it was only june i was complaining i couldn't contribute anything here so things change [01:02]
assbot Logged on 23-06-2014 05:29:19; cazalla: little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here? [01:02]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Amazing how learning creates opportunities [01:02]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [01:02]
ThickAsThieves cazalla, hey i'm same still [01:02]
ThickAsThieves no one's kicked me out yet [01:02]
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jurov /fireban ThickAsThieves [01:08]
ThickAsThieves was waiting for it [01:08]
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asciilifeform << historical interest [01:10]
assbot Hollow Nickels & Roach Motels | Box VoxBox Vox [01:10]
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BingoBoingo DOSbait [01:12]
assbot The Egg | If you care about it, then Egg it! by Eggcyte — Kickstarter [01:12]
asciilifeform if you care about it, fertilize it [01:13]
asciilifeform snore. [01:13]
BingoBoingo lol [01:14]
BingoBoingo But seriously is there any justification for the current design of the US nickle other than as a thing to hollow? [01:14]
asciilifeform hollowed coins, as pointed out in the article, are old hat. [01:15]
ThickAsThieves i leave all coin change with cashier [01:16]
BingoBoingo Very, but few offer the depth a nickle does. [01:16]
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asciilifeform given the fate of usd, the small coins continue to circulate largely through inertia of neglect. [01:16]
BingoBoingo I mean sure you can hollow peace or eisenhower dollars, but those are going to get examined anyways [01:16]
asciilifeform i.e. it would cost usg more to actively remove penny, nickel, dime, from circulation, than anyone stands to gain thereby. [01:17]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: hollow coins in real life fool no one if examined individually - given the way they are made, the ruse is quite obvious when seen from the edge. [01:29]
asciilifeform (where the milling - invention of sir newton... is.) [01:29]
asciilifeform this, incidentally, is why nickel. [01:30]
asciilifeform (for non-usa folks, a nickel is a five cent coin, having a smooth edge.) [01:31]
punkman proper way is to place the cut on the inside of raised edge, can do with most coins [01:34]
asciilifeform at any rate, there isn't room for any locking mechanism, really [01:35]
asciilifeform if someone suspects a diddled coin, and one is there, it will be found. [01:35]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform what is this meatballs bs ? [01:37]
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asciilifeform ? [01:42]
mircea_popescu !up TheBroker [01:42]
-assbot- You voiced TheBroker for 30 minutes. [01:42]
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TheBroker ;;gpg eauth TheBroker [01:42]
gribble Request successful for user TheBroker, hostmask TheBroker!bec3cce4@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Get your encrypted OTP from [01:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it hits the uncanny valley for me [01:42]
asciilifeform wai which [01:42]
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asciilifeform the drilled coins? [01:43]
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mircea_popescu [01:43]
asciilifeform aha [01:43]
mircea_popescu seems to be some sort of wiki [01:43]
asciilifeform that [01:43]
asciilifeform it isn't a wiki in the usual sense [01:43]
asciilifeform more of a forum gizmo [01:44]
asciilifeform from long ago. [01:44]
asciilifeform wiki-shaped. [01:44]
mircea_popescu roughtly reads to me like a disertation on surgery written by waiters next to the hospital on the basis of what they overheard during their jobs would read if i were a surgeon [01:44]
mircea_popescu aka, uncanny valley [01:44]
asciilifeform there are a few interesting gibblets in there. [01:44]
asciilifeform mostly of zoological interest, yes. [01:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00074038 = 5.5529 BTC [+] [01:50]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: hollow coins in real life fool no one if examined individually - given the way they are made, the ruse is quite obvious when seen from the edge. << Takes visual inspection though. [01:51]
asciilifeform or a fall. [01:51]
BingoBoingo Maybe have a few "hollow" nickles, pack with proper density grease, soon you demand hours of inspector's time as they pour over pounds of nickles looking for an interestign one. [01:52]
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asciilifeform nah, they put them through a bank's coin sorter [01:52]
BingoBoingo Maybe there's 8 hollow nickles. 5 have just grease, 3 have porn [01:52]
asciilifeform see which ones come out under/overweight of jam machine. [01:52]
asciilifeform *or [01:52]
asciilifeform these things probably do electrical impedance / and/or acoustic profile. [01:53]
asciilifeform (these days) [01:53]
asciilifeform see also the tungsten-cored gold bars thread [01:53]
BingoBoingo Sure, but inspectors use MS Excel [01:53]
asciilifeform depends which inspectors. [01:53]
bounce wallet inspectors [01:54]
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BingoBoingo Well, not mint inspectors, but local county mounties sure [01:54]
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Freen0deAdmin whats up [01:54]
BingoBoingo Ebola [01:54]
asciilifeform the point of a gambit such as drilled coin is to avoid being noticed. [01:54]
Freen0deAdmin god caused ebola [01:54]
cazalla good luck ebola! [01:55]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform> the point of a gambit such as drilled coin is to avoid being noticed. << Nah, you drill some coins to force a search for more of the same [01:55]
Freen0deAdmin whats the purpose of this bitcoin room? [01:55]
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BingoBoingo Freen0deAdmin: Destroying contemporary Western ethos [01:55]
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Freen0deAdmin why do some names have a color next to them? [01:55]
ThickAsThieves because racism [01:56]
BingoBoingo Freen0deAdmin: I suspect you are no kind of admin... [01:56]
bounce look up "colour temperature" some time [01:56]
Freen0deAdmin its a joke [01:56]
Freen0deAdmin -_- [01:56]
bounce racist body radiation [01:56]
BingoBoingo Freen0deAdmin: Are you also reddit police? [01:56]
Freen0deAdmin i demand to be an op in this room? [01:57]
Freen0deAdmin no [01:57]
bounce !down Freen0deAdmin [01:57]
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ThickAsThieves +1 [01:57]
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danielpbarron << amen [02:00]
assbot Logged on 15-10-2014 22:52:26; Freen0deAdmin: god caused ebola [02:00]
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mpmcsweeney danke [02:00]
asciilifeform ;;google the cause and cure of earthquakes [02:00]
gribble Sermon 129 - The Cause And Cure Of Earthquakes - The Wesley ...: ; Charles Wesley on 'The cause and cure of earthquakes ...: ; John Wesley, Earthquakes and God's Providence - (1 more message) [02:00]
BingoBoingo TheClitCommander: Y U steal my side gig? [02:01]
mpmcsweeney qntra down? [02:01]
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asciilifeform ;;google poeme sur le desastre de lisbonne [02:03]
gribble Poème sur le désastre de Lisbonne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Toleration and other essays/Poem on the Lisbon Disaster - Wikisource: ; Le séisme de Lisbonne (Portugal) en 1756 Polémique ... - Euromedina: (1 more message) [02:03]
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asciilifeform << englisch [02:04]
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assbot Toleration and other essays/Poem on the Lisbon Disaster - Wikisource, the free online library [02:04]
BingoBoingo Kansascity: Scroll up? [02:04]
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Kansascity BingoBoingo, ? [02:05]
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BingoBoingo Oh * JerryFish ( has joined #bitcoin-assets << has interest in this channe [02:05]
mpmcsweeney gg [02:05]
assbot Did Obama Just Raise The Ebola Threat Level? | Zero Hedge [02:05]
asciilifeform wait is this 'amd celeron' , 'miowmix', etc ? [02:05]
asciilifeform (the former, a very special trololol) [02:05]
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bounce a dead russian? [02:06]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Whover it is... Persistent [02:06]
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BingoBoingo Kansascity: How about those royals? [02:08]
Kansascity we won! [02:08]
Kansascity KC is just the cinderella team though [02:08]
BingoBoingo I hope for another I-70 series [02:09]
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BingoBoingo Oh, the Royal did win the pennant [02:10]
Kansascity yeah just now [02:10]
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BingoBoingo Lorde must be happy. She named that song after George Brett [02:12]
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assbot Second Ebola-Infected Nurse Identified, Was Symptomatic With 99.5 Degree Fever While Flying | Zero Hedge [02:15]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: By this time next month Amtrack business will be booming. US air travel is on its way out. [02:16]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: as if trains will not fall under same bureaucracy if the fuhrer wishes it. [02:16]
BingoBoingo I mean we are nearly upon Flu season when everyone will have fevers [02:16]
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BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: as if trains will not fall under same bureaucracy if the fuhrer wishes it. << No, being under the same bureaucracy is why the trains will run. [02:17]
BingoBoingo Like Atlas Shrugged in reverse [02:17]
asciilifeform run until not. [02:17]
BingoBoingo [02:17]
mpmcsweeney theyve already begun panic-removing people from planes [02:18]
mpmcsweeney wait til the sick season hits public schools [02:18]
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xanthyos hi [02:19]
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ThickAsThieves lol NFLX down 26% afterhours [02:20]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: You see what happened in Bonds today? [02:20]
ThickAsThieves i dont normally watch em [02:20]
ThickAsThieves but lets of red all over [02:21]
BingoBoingo Maybe take a look at it [02:21]
BingoBoingo Bigger change than Lehman or Atta begat [02:21]
ThickAsThieves 10yr 1.865 yield [02:23]
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BingoBoingo From what yesterday? [02:23]
ThickAsThieves "Everyone's animal spirit is dead. This is a pretty dramatic move when everyone was expecting higher rates" [02:23]
ThickAsThieves i'm reading this [02:24]
assbot Bonds rally, stocks fall as global economy fears mount| Reuters [02:24]
ThickAsThieves i'm largely ignorant to bonds market [02:24]
asciilifeform 'although Wall Street managed to peddle back...' wtf?!?! [02:24]
asciilifeform english? [02:24]
ThickAsThieves like a bicycle [02:25]
asciilifeform peddle? [02:25]
ThickAsThieves i guess [02:25]
asciilifeform or pedal? [02:25]
ThickAsThieves oh yeah [02:25]
ThickAsThieves derp [02:25]
ThickAsThieves lol [02:25]
ThickAsThieves i'm surprised btc isnt rallying harder with all this [02:26]
ThickAsThieves guess we're still in early adoption phase [02:26]
devthedev Bitcointalk: "Due to a recently-discovered flaw in the TLS and SSL protocols, you may want to change your password, especially if you accessed the forum using Tor." [02:27]
asciilifeform << monkeys fly from my arse if this is true. [02:27]
assbot Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project| Reuters [02:27]
mpmcsweeney gg for moolah: [02:27]
assbot Moolah [02:27]
BingoBoingo or pedal? << Pedal, as in the pedal tones on a brass instrument [02:27]
asciilifeform what was printed: 'peddle' [02:27]
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asciilifeform as in peddler, itinerant merchant. [02:28]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Maybe printed, I'm thinking where the noise is though [02:28]
jurov yes, peddler [02:28]
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BingoBoingo devthedev: You are covering the beat, correct? [02:28]
devthedev Yeah [02:29]
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devthedev BingoBoingo: The guy on the bottom of that liveleak screenshot's Landon Merrill [02:30]
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devthedev COO for MooPay Int. [02:32]
mike_c ThickAsThieves:being that you had to make up numbers AND timelines << hm, how else do you make investment decisions? [02:32]
BingoBoingo mike_c: You know tat always consults the tes leaves [02:33]
ThickAsThieves i'm saying i'm not sure this is even tea [02:34]
mike_c well it does show you a methodology. if you don't like the assumptions, change 'em. [02:34]
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ThickAsThieves i do appreciate the effort, but i'ma just watch and see [02:35]
mike_c like all of my articles, they are mostly for me anyway. but i think that one stands up. i didn't cheat either, i was surprised how close my guesstimate came to that bid on mpex. [02:36]
ThickAsThieves total coincidence imo [02:36]
mike_c hehe. you think the bid was random? [02:37]
ThickAsThieves i think it can be nothing more [02:37]
BingoBoingo Well, the way I see it people bidding for s.qntra shares are going to be bidding for a percent of future revenue [02:37]
ThickAsThieves maaaybe you could estimate a value based on other mpex offerings [02:37]
ThickAsThieves an ever shrinking percent [02:38]
asciilifeform i'd still very much like even a speculative picture of where such revenue might come from. [02:38]
ThickAsThieves ^ [02:38]
mike_c asciilifeform: one example, as given, is advertising revenue. [02:38]
asciilifeform van ads? [02:38]
mike_c or selling direct ala bitbet [02:38]
asciilifeform who is to buy the ads? [02:38]
mike_c as mentioned, bitcointalk is now making 40 btc a week on ads. [02:38]
asciilifeform because they push scamz. [02:39]
cazalla mpmcsweeney, i saw coindesk pumping gawminer advertisements yesterday, what's up with that? [02:39]
asciilifeform sc4mz0rs - will buy ads, yes. [02:39]
asciilifeform but qntra is meant to be a chopping block for them, not a cafe [02:39]
BingoBoingo or selling direct ala bitbet << From an ethics standpoint a Van-ads sort of arrangement is probably cleaner [02:39]
asciilifeform if i understand. [02:39]
mike_c ethics schmethics. newspapers have been funded by ads from forever [02:39]
asciilifeform the only thing lacking, unless i'm mistaken, is people who actually want to pay for any of this. [02:39]
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mike_c mining equipment companies pay for it [02:40]
asciilifeform once q transforms into the kind of thing which is presently lucrative, it will cease to be distinguishable from the despised competition. [02:40]
mike_c nobody despises the NYT because they run ads. [02:40]
asciilifeform the whole thing is an ad. [02:41]
asciilifeform as in, mass media as a concept. [02:41]
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nubbins` ^ [02:42]
mike_c um, then investing in qntra is not a good fit for you anyway [02:42]
nubbins` who *is* it a good fit for? [02:42]
mike_c somebody who believes a better source of bitcoin news is a good idea? [02:42]
asciilifeform i wasn't intending to (with what, ha.) just ringing the bell to possibly wake up folks who think they can achieve a new result by doing the same thing as was done for 100 years. [02:42]
nubbins` mike_c: why, that describes me! [02:42]
mike_c then you don't believe that "mass media" is the problem, just the way it has been executed. [02:43]
mike_c like, owned by companies who must have ever increasing profits [02:43]
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asciilifeform no, the whole concept of a 'news' that is of interest to a gigantic mass of people without being pablum. [02:43]
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nubbins` as opposed to qntra, where investors will expect diminishing returns [02:43]
mike_c yes, they will expect diminishing returns. i don't understand why this is a problem. [02:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu objected to the examples i gave as 'scientific journal' [02:44]
asciilifeform [02:44]
assbot Logged on 15-10-2014 19:26:50; mircea_popescu: this is not news stan. this is science publications. [02:44]
asciilifeform but imho those are the only kind of actual news (when genuine!) [02:44]
ThickAsThieves qntra provides content of a certain portion of the spectrum [02:44]
ThickAsThieves people who want curation and updates on that portion [02:44]
ThickAsThieves would pay [02:44]
mike_c AOL dialup business has been producing diminishing returns for a decade and has been extremely valuable. [02:45]
asciilifeform which one of you is planning to fly to, e.g., donbass (ukraine) and ask the soldiers if they're using btc? [02:45]
ThickAsThieves and yes advertisers who exposure to the kind of person interested in that spectrum would advertise [02:45]
asciilifeform or will the 'news' be cut&paste just like everybody else's. [02:45]
ThickAsThieves want* [02:45]
ThickAsThieves i dont think they know exactly what it is [02:45]
ThickAsThieves which is ok [02:45]
mike_c asciilifeform: major newspapers send reporters to syria to get captured. but not on day 1. [02:45]
asciilifeform wasn't meant to be a specific hypothesis [02:46]
asciilifeform just example. [02:46]
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ThickAsThieves but being intentional about business never hurt [02:46]
asciilifeform which one of you will fly. [02:46]
mike_c why would we fly? we're readers, not reporters. [02:46]
* asciilifeform was under the impression that some of the people here intended to make this item happen [02:46]
ThickAsThieves hey i wouldnt endanger my life for it, but i'd fly [02:46]
asciilifeform qntra, that is [02:46]
jurov asciilifeform: is donbass part of your exit strategy? [02:46]
ThickAsThieves which reminds me, [02:46]
nubbins` ThickAsThieves: on spec, tho? [02:46]
ThickAsThieves there's a btc conference in Miami soon [02:47]
asciilifeform jurov: nah. obola's currently my exit 'strategy' if you wanna call it that. [02:47]
ThickAsThieves if qntra wants to task me [02:47]
ThickAsThieves i'm game [02:47]
mike_c yes. there are stages. stage 1: provide better news than others. stage 2: build enough audience and capital to send people to ukraine. stage 3: profit. [02:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00073893 = 9.4583 BTC [-] [02:47]
jurov FTFY: build enough audience and capital to buy ukraine [02:47]
asciilifeform jurov: see also 'Last Bullet Life and Health Insurance Corporation.' [02:48]
mike_c WSJ makes a billion or two a year. [02:48]
asciilifeform mike_c: wsj, like nyt et al is an organ of the crown. [02:48]
asciilifeform aka tbtf. [02:48]
mike_c the old crown. imagine how valuable an organ of the new crown will be. [02:48]
ThickAsThieves make people buy shares to read, then burn the shares when they do [02:49]
ThickAsThieves infinite share problem solved [02:49]
nubbins` heh [02:49]
asciilifeform not certain how an amoebic pseudopod wins by emulating the organs of, e.g, mouse. [02:49]
jurov ThickAsThieves: how to burn shares on mpex? push to nonextant address? [02:49]
mike_c "infinite" != 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... [02:49]
asciilifeform infinite shares with no plausible picture of how they are to be worth something [02:50]
nubbins` i know i'd certainly buy shares in a website in order to read one of its articles [02:50]
asciilifeform am i the only one bothered by this? [02:50]
ThickAsThieves mpex made an altcoin, must add full support for it [02:50]
asciilifeform even if i'm not the target-anything [02:50]
mike_c geezus. There are no infinite shares. [02:50]
jurov ThickAsThieves: only if you buy such push recipts ;) [02:50]
asciilifeform just can't help spotting symptoms of delusion [02:50]
nubbins` no infinite shares, just a share per word [02:50]
nubbins` with open season on words ;0 [02:50]
asciilifeform and in people i know to be clever! [02:51]
nubbins` wait, two shares per word. [02:51]
asciilifeform so, perhaps i'm thick [02:51]
nubbins` it's almost dickensian [02:51]
asciilifeform not almost. [02:51]
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asciilifeform literally. [02:51]
ThickAsThieves infinite on an indeterminable segment of time [02:51]
nubbins` and their delectable wares! [02:51]
asciilifeform what next? pay people by lines of code? [02:51]
ThickAsThieves :P [02:51]
asciilifeform which they will proceed to write in 'intercal' ? [02:51]
nubbins` i'm going to write an amazing article and pad the fuck out of it [02:52]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [02:52]
asciilifeform is the whole thing an elaborate joke that i'm not in on? [02:52]
ThickAsThieves should be a rule: footnote words dont count [02:52]
nubbins` like, quadruple the word count [02:52]
mike_c you all act like it's a free for all. like cazalla will accept any 5,000 word piece of shit [02:52]
ThickAsThieves the mp rule [02:52]
ThickAsThieves well i want more words [02:52]
ThickAsThieves as a reader [02:52]
asciilifeform seriously? [02:52]
mike_c 1) you need to be decently wot'd to contribute. 2) if you submit shit, you won't get in. [02:52]
ThickAsThieves i dont want too many words [02:53]
ThickAsThieves i want all the good words i can get tho [02:53]
mike_c just drink the fucking kool-aid already [02:53]
ThickAsThieves lol [02:53]
jurov soon it will be the ultimate turing test [02:53]
nubbins` will the articles be edited, or posted as submitted? [02:53]
ThickAsThieves [MPEX] [S.QNTR 9000 @ 1 = 9000 BTC [+] 1} [02:54]
jurov no, only profanity will be randomly sprinkled [02:54]
asciilifeform is everybody here but me on lsd? [02:54]
nubbins` i can't speak for the others... [02:54]
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jurov vex gave me some smoking [02:54]
ThickAsThieves we're just some paradigms saying whats up [02:54]
BingoBoingo !up teek [02:54]
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nubbins` the no revenue stream paradigm [02:55]
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BingoBoingo is everybody here but me on lsd? << Maybe? [02:55]
ThickAsThieves if i were on lsd all the time, how would i know i was on lsd? [02:55]
* nubbins` offers a sugar cube [02:55]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: see s. lem's 'futurological congress.' [02:55]
nubbins` ;;google gooble gobble [02:55]
gribble Gooble Gobble One of Us We Accept Her - YouTube: ; Gooble Gobble - YouTube: ; Freaks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [02:55]
jurov kakobrekla: what about S.BASH? one share per bashed word [02:56]
nubbins` oooo [02:56]
asciilifeform s.plat [02:56]
asciilifeform one share per sperm cell ejected. [02:56]
asciilifeform amazing profits. [02:56]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [02:56]
mircea_popescu cazalla BingoBoingo [02:56]
assbot ### For the numerically curious : hits count, ip. ### Today 100 - [02:56]
ThickAsThieves thus the bash wars of 2014 began [02:57]
cazalla mircea_popescu, lol [02:57]
mircea_popescu bout twice as many today. hopefully 3x tomorrow! [02:57]
mircea_popescu (this, of course, excludes the wordpress stuff, which is about 90% or so of the entire thing, but also easy to filter) [02:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: but the fact of ddos still being a thing at all, reveals catastrophically broken design at large. << not really, it just reflects a major problem of the world at large (the quare-linear problem, specifically) [02:58]
asciilifeform ddos is a basic attribute of any system where strangers can impose a cost on you at little to no cost to themselves. [02:59]
mircea_popescu nah, consider gravity. your potential energy increases with your height, but your speed of ultimate impact with the square of the height. [03:00]
mircea_popescu same thing with 3d geometric applications [03:00]
mircea_popescu same thing here : the more people you add, the exponentially more potential connections in the graph. [03:00]
mircea_popescu ddos is an intrinsic property of the world, like bitcoin, like falling to your death, like the nuclear bomb [03:01]
asciilifeform not necessarily. [03:01]
asciilifeform i described earlier a hypothetical network that silently refuses to rout ddos. [03:01]
asciilifeform *route [03:01]
mircea_popescu but it's not a network in this sense. [03:01]
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mircea_popescu what you described is hoiw to keep the network small [03:01]
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asciilifeform tcp-wot. [03:02]
mircea_popescu this is fine, but it doesn't solve, it avoids. [03:02]
asciilifeform finesses. [03:02]
mircea_popescu not at all. [03:02]
mircea_popescu granted, this is not a problem that can actually be solved [03:02]
mircea_popescu anymore than bitcoin can be "solved". [03:02]
mircea_popescu so yes, avoidance is the name of the game. nevertheless... [03:02]
asciilifeform if random-derp wants a document from you, he should really be reduced to grabbing it (and, naturally, you signed it) from someone closer in wot-space to you [03:03]
mircea_popescu you're never going to escape the fact that a 3 person sitcom crew can fuck three different ways whereas a 4 person crew can fuck in 6 ways [03:03]
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asciilifeform consider ancient scholars like the persian Razi. [03:04]
thestringpuller qntra down again? [03:04]
asciilifeform surrounded by concentric circles of students [03:04]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller myeah [03:04]
jurov for documents you can use CDN and whatnot. problem is if they want to call your code [03:04]
asciilifeform if a n00b wants to learn, he can't ask razi [03:04]
asciilifeform he has to ask the nth circle [03:04]
asciilifeform and if no one there knows, n-1st [03:04]
asciilifeform etc [03:04]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: guess more answers are in logs? (that's a dumb question sorry) [03:04]
asciilifeform finally master may condescend to answer if no apprentice knew. [03:04]
mircea_popescu this is fine, but if you actually calculate the computational load you'll get more than the current star model [03:04]
asciilifeform yes. but not concentrated. [03:04]
mircea_popescu true. [03:04]
asciilifeform hence not the same animal [03:05]
mircea_popescu this is exactly how the us legal system works [03:05]
mircea_popescu you happy with that ? [03:05]
mircea_popescu suppose you, unknown stranger of razi level, have a q. takes you three years and a dozen idiotic answers ? [03:05]
asciilifeform it does succeed at preventing drunken beggars from ddosing the king, if nothing else [03:05]
mircea_popescu sure, and at a bunch of unintentional other mishaps at that. [03:05]
mircea_popescu the solution, as practiced in history, was to teach the drunks restraint. [03:06]
asciilifeform not that i am in love with this paradigm, but not sure that you can construct a genuinely viable net where beggar can talk to king directly. [03:06]
mircea_popescu why not ? [03:06]
asciilifeform because the alchemists have learned to manufacture armies of beggars which carry on mischief as programmed. [03:07]
mircea_popescu so you kill them and then hang the alchemists by their guts. [03:07]
* asciilifeform is quite in favour of this [03:07]
mircea_popescu then beggar can talk to king dracula any time he wants. [03:07]
asciilifeform you'll need woodchippers for the beggars though. [03:07]
asciilifeform genuine beggar. automata? [03:07]
mircea_popescu FEMA ? [03:08]
asciilifeform lol [03:08]
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mircea_popescu $vwap s.qntr [03:09]
empyex mircea_popescu: Want a bash? Or use a valid MPSIC! [03:09]
mircea_popescu $vwap S.QNTR [03:10]
empyex mircea_popescu: Want a bash? Or use a valid MPSIC! [03:10]
mircea_popescu hm! [03:10]
mircea_popescu oic [03:10]
asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo << you might have to googletrans, but possibly of interest to you [03:13]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:13]
assbot Esquire Ukraine [03:13]
mircea_popescu Freen0deAdmin: why do some names have a color next to them? ThickAsThieves: because racism << ok i lolled. because colonialism. [03:14]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: By this time next month Amtrack business will be booming. US air travel is on its way out. <<< can only go where there's track. [03:15]
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mircea_popescu incidentally : if any reader feels like building a botnet / expanding his botnet, you can probably hit the earlier linked list of ips. if you're carefgul going in you can probably blame whatever mischief on the original derp, too. [03:17]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: So far the rennovated mosin is my favorite [03:19]
mircea_popescu devthedev: Bitcointalk: "Due to a recently-discovered flaw in the TLS and SSL protocols, you may want to change your password, especially if you accessed the forum using Tor." <<< what, tor isn't safe ? incredibru. [03:19]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The last one, new rifles are sold in us on essentially the same principle. "Inline" muzzle loaders that use shotgun primers. [03:22]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: i think it can be nothing more <<< yeah, but then i noticed there's actually two, and they're pretty close. [03:22]
BingoBoingo Instead of traditional percussion caps [03:22]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you can see those work on youtube. ersatz weapon, you don't want it (unless no choice.) [03:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00073995 = 17.9068 BTC [+] {2} [03:23]
asciilifeform 'обрез' ('cutdown') [03:23]
mircea_popescu mike_c: ethics schmethics. newspapers have been funded by ads from forever <<< yeah but i find the entire goldline glenn beck thing pretty objectionable. [03:23]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: once q transforms into the kind of thing which is presently lucrative, it will cease to be distinguishable from the despised competition. << the idea is to transform things around it. [03:24]
ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> yeah, but then i noticed there's actually two, and they're pretty close. /// of course, second bidder has something to work with [03:24]
ben_vulpes kick everyone's ass on quality without worrying about making money [03:24]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: ATM this inspires me to wonder about... the classic railgun. If the projectile is already a strong magnet... [03:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: i wasn't intending to (with what, ha.) just ringing the bell to possibly wake up folks who think they can achieve a new result by doing the same thing as was done for 100 years. <<< you know, the clerk maxwell guy, arguably a novel result, WAS in fact achieved by doing the exact same thing men have been doing to women for a hundred years. [03:25]
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mircea_popescu possibly longer [03:25]
BingoBoingo kick everyone's ass on quality without worrying about making money << gawker was never great, but this is how they killed huffpo [03:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you mean he wiggled a pen and dropped ink on paper, sure. [03:25]
mircea_popescu no, he wiggled a cock and dropped semen on uterus. [03:26]
mircea_popescu im talking of the guy's dad, see. [03:26]
mircea_popescu and now i got you in the corner. either you argue with the libtards that c. maxwell is not a novel result, tho his work is [03:27]
mircea_popescu or else this thing's dead. [03:27]
* ben_vulpes is now gagging for time to read the logs [03:28]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: re: your reply to 'instazap' - as a young man, i had the 'fortune' to work in one of those small scamatronics firms scattered around wash.dc. they made (well, collected money from usg to make, supposedly) small robots. [03:30]
asciilifeform one day we were called in for a meeting [03:30]
asciilifeform over a ludicrously expensive plasma tv, the owner of the firm gravely proclaimed that the robot (nominally a sapperbot) shall be fitted with a rifle. [03:30]
mircea_popescu jurov: FTFY: build enough audience and capital to buy ukraine <<< here's a simple calculation : someone somewhere judges it worth his time to try to attack qntra for like what, a day ? [03:30]
asciilifeform and that anyone who takes issue with this, should resign then. [03:30]
mircea_popescu how much would it cost you to replicate this ? [03:31]
asciilifeform (no one did. surprised?) [03:31]
mircea_popescu there, that's a value of qntra approach. [03:31]
BingoBoingo over a ludicrously expensive plasma tv, the owner of the firm gravely proclaimed that the robot (nominally a sapperbot) shall be fitted with a rifle. << Wait employees hadn't machines so armed already? [03:32]
asciilifeform worth his time << chumpnet is like a truck - most of the cost of ownership, assuming you own it, is a fixed cost [03:32]
asciilifeform i.e., the chumpers need to be busied somehow [03:32]
mircea_popescu how much are ~5k zombie ips worth ? what's the current market value of a wordpress list like whatever, 100k or i didn't bother counting the new one yet ? [03:32]
asciilifeform as i understand, their market values vary wildly based on geography [03:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform besides the point tho. negotiable instruments, like anything else. [03:33]
asciilifeform american chumps, as i understand, are worth most [03:33]
asciilifeform yes. [03:33]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: entirely unsurprised. [03:33]
asciilifeform but idea is, if you own them, better keep them busy. like slaves. [03:33]
mircea_popescu yeah, but also like slaves they're worth w/e they bring in. [03:33]
ben_vulpes but idea is, if you own them, better keep them busy. like slaves. << oh god i know this one [03:33]
ben_vulpes yeah, but also like slaves they're worth w/e they bring in. << also this one [03:33]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: employees hadn't machines so armed << employees owned the shirts on their backs [03:33]
asciilifeform if that. [03:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform speaking of which, you know how they announce job vacancies here ? [03:34]
mircea_popescu "se necesitan peones" [03:34]
asciilifeform lol!! [03:34]
mircea_popescu just like you died and went to fucking warcraft heaven [03:34]
BingoBoingo !b 4 [03:34]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [03:34]
asciilifeform that's what i was thinking [03:34]
asciilifeform zugzug! [03:34]
mircea_popescu "yes milord!" [03:34]
asciilifeform thing about botnets, this is a whole planet, largely undocumented in open literature [03:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: mike_c: wsj, like nyt et al is an organ of the crown. << so is qntra. [03:35]
mircea_popescu and like wsj, nyt etc, it's worth whatever the crown says it's worth. [03:35]
mike_c read the next line :) [03:35]
mircea_popescu a right :p [03:35]
BingoBoingo Oh Mosins are still under $150 per in the US. [03:36]
asciilifeform i don't have any nitpick at a 'group trilema' - but not sure why it needed to be nyooz-flavoured. [03:36]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the paperwork will run you more. [03:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform if nothing else, easy entry point. [03:36]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plus, afaik no one in usa makes the shells. [03:37]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: and the shells... [03:37]
mircea_popescu but speaking of crowns : romanian king (prince karl of hohenzollern-sigmaringen) had the interesting idea of making his crown out of iron [03:37]
assbot Century Arms M91/30 Mosin Nagant Bolt Action Rifle 7.62x54R 26" Barrel 5 Rounds Laminated Stock Black Finish RI660L-X in Good Condition [03:37]
mircea_popescu speciofically, a captured turkish cannon. [03:37]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'the man with the rifle - shoots. the one without - follows him. when the man with the rifle is killed, the one who is following him picks up the rifle and shoots.' -- american film about stalingrad [03:37]
asciilifeform (re mosin) [03:37]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Winchester makes them nao [03:38]
mircea_popescu cannons are indeed out of fashion, but for whoever ends up crowned : consider making your crown out of the extracted teeth of us congressmen, imf directors and so on and so forth. [03:38]
assbot Cheaper Than Dirt! - 7.62x54R [03:38]
ben_vulpes make a synthetic diamond crown of carbonized benjamins [03:38]
mircea_popescu the crown of teeth! [03:38]
asciilifeform we call them endearingly, мосинка. [03:38]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Saw that film [03:38]
asciilifeform there will be folks firing mosins at one another long after we're forgotten, i suspect. [03:38]
asciilifeform crown from congressmen << reminds me of fdr's souvenirs [03:39]
asciilifeform 'That same year, columnist Drew Pearson reported that Representative Francis E. Walter (D-Penn.) had presented President Franklin D. Roosevelt with a letter opener made from the forearm of a Japanese soldier. ‘This is the sort of gift I like to get’, Pearson quotes FDR saying.” ' [03:39]
mircea_popescu heh [03:39]
mircea_popescu such a humanitarian. [03:39]
asciilifeform legend has it that stalin had the fuhrer's skull (what remained of it) as ashtray. [03:40]
asciilifeform probably mythical, but there it is. [03:40]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the non-soviet ones are ~$1/round [03:41]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: which is precisely what one might expect for a foreign museum piece [03:41]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Still, for a full power rifle cartridge of new manufacter not bad at all [03:42]
BingoBoingo Olin brass has to butter their bezzel bread [03:42]
asciilifeform incidentally, the mosins (and other items of the period) prove that, if one really wishes it, it is possible to mass-produce 'non-synthetic tomato' to some extent. [03:42]
asciilifeform 100 percent machined parts, nothing stamped, nothing made of shitmetal (e.g. 'zamac') [03:43]
asciilifeform (the first person who told me that there are now small arms with zamac parts, i did not believe him!) [03:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: infinite shares with no plausible picture of how they are to be worth something <<< this is similar to the problem of marriage neh ? "woman can bring infinite children with no idea how they;d amount to anything" [03:43]
mircea_popescu 100 percent machined parts, nothing stamped, nothing made of shitmetal (e.g. 'zamac') << no, because metals can be purified, but organics not so well. [03:44]
BingoBoingo Qntra shares really aren't a problem so long as they remain countably infinite [03:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: degradation of metal goods proceeded by a similar, if not entirely identical way as organics - not impurities as such (modern alloys are chemically superior to those of the past) but through using tech that ought not be used [03:45]
mircea_popescu hm. [03:45]
asciilifeform the zamac is very pure. [03:45]
asciilifeform but it snaps like plastic. [03:45]
mircea_popescu also very fixable. [03:45]
mircea_popescu the dioxin infested field... not so much [03:45]
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asciilifeform i own two halves of a broken corkscrew (owned. used to show people.) [03:45]
asciilifeform metal - in name. [03:45]
asciilifeform misplaced somewhere [03:45]
mircea_popescu i broke tons of all sorts of cruddy kitchen implements [03:45]
mircea_popescu back when the chinese still sucked, 90s, [03:46]
asciilifeform thing is, the chinese in this respect do not suck. american turdmeisters supply the spec. [03:46]
mircea_popescu i broke a quarter inch thick garlic press into shards etc [03:46]
asciilifeform and items are made to spec. [03:46]
BingoBoingo i own two halves of a broken corkscrew (owned. used to show people.) << I imagine my current corkscrew will outlive me [03:46]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: and in people i know to be clever! << wait, do you mean me ? [03:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i confess that i don't have a clear picture of who was working on it [03:47]
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BingoBoingo Broke 3 Zamac turds, moved to a beauty in 440 stainless steel [03:47]
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mircea_popescu well, cazalla is the editor in charge, BingoBoingo is his lieutenant and im here to fuck things up. [03:47]
mircea_popescu !up Amazonfirehd [03:47]
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Amazonfirehd yay [03:47]
asciilifeform amazonfirehd << meow mix << amd celeron ? [03:47]
asciilifeform why???? [03:47]
Amazonfirehd ? [03:47]
mircea_popescu huh? [03:47]
* asciilifeform has a memory [03:47]
asciilifeform and other people do, presumably [03:48]
BingoBoingo Amazonfirehd: YOu have yet to acquire a cloak [03:48]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: what next? pay people by lines of code? << i've actually done that. "you get paid 1000 - code count" [03:48]
asciilifeform ah but see that's proper [03:48]
Amazonfirehd why do i need one? [03:48]
asciilifeform because correct side of ledger [03:48]
Amazonfirehd asciilifeform, who r ye? [03:48]
asciilifeform Amazonfirehd: unknown lamer [03:48]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but code has a verifiable existence outside of its words. copywriting does not. [03:49]
BingoBoingo Amazonfirehd: He is living breathing 7 bits of text [03:49]
Amazonfirehd oh [03:49]
mircea_popescu nubbins`: i'm going to write an amazing article and pad the fuck out of it <<< /me settles down for this [03:49]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [03:49]
mircea_popescu you know assy... that's what you said last time [03:49]
Amazonfirehd is it the hard disk that processes data and the cpu stores the data right? [03:50]
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BingoBoingo Amazonfirehd: Neither. [03:50]
mircea_popescu !down Amazonfirehd [03:50]
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mircea_popescu good enough. [03:50]
asciilifeform ;;google hipcrime [03:50]
gribble Hipcrime (Usenet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Hipcrime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; the Hipcrime Vocab: [03:50]
asciilifeform wonder if he's come out of retirement. [03:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28638 @ 0.00074038 = 21.203 BTC [+] {2} [03:51]
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ben_vulpes given the fate of usd, the small coins continue to circulate largely through inertia of neglect. << prices in my area recently went to integer dollars for things sold by the unit [03:53]
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mircea_popescu jurov: kakobrekla: what about S.BASH? one share per bashed word <<< or S.BISH. one share per something. [03:53]
BingoBoingo [03:54]
assbot Afroduck Leaks Video Of 'NYPD Officer' Doing 'Fastest Lap Of Manhattan' [03:54]
danielpbarron or S.HIT for each /me slaps so-and-so around [03:54]
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asciilifeform ^lol [03:56]
* asciilifeform often wonder, of the $maxint places they could go - they go here .why. [03:57]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: [03:58]
assbot "OBREZ MOSIN-NAGANT (SAWED-OFF) M91/30" - YouTube [03:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00073991 = 3.7735 BTC [-] [03:58]
asciilifeform ^atypically long example [03:58]
BingoBoingo "Weld the front sight back on so we know what the fuck we are shooting at" [04:01]
asciilifeform in ru world, a small-arms-themed derp is often told, 'file off yer sights' [04:01]
asciilifeform (for ease of inevitable anal insertion) [04:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform << this one is pretty lulzy. [04:02]
mircea_popescu "The number one problem with paranoid world views is the lack of proof on either side. Nobody can disprove once and for all any of these rumors. If you believe but one of them, step by step you will have to distrust your politicians, your government, the press." [04:02]
mircea_popescu i suppose the answer to "why would one bother to rewrite the much better flame warriors guide in shitty prose" suddenly comes into view. [04:02]
asciilifeform it's a bottomless pit of various things [04:03]
mircea_popescu deceased, apparently. [04:03]
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BingoBoingo Hello Corey [04:10]
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BingoBoingo It continues [04:16]
assbot dpaste: 2TEDFT0 [04:16]
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mpmcsweeney thank you [04:19]
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kakobrekla !up jordandotdev [04:20]
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kakobrekla !up MRFeeny welcome back jo. [04:20]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla wait you know the guy ? [04:20]
MRFeeny hi [04:20]
kakobrekla no [04:20]
kakobrekla i mean [04:20]
kakobrekla we all do [04:20]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: meowmix [04:20]
mircea_popescu i have nfi who that is ? [04:20]
mircea_popescu and i honestly read the logs ? [04:20]
mircea_popescu !s meowmix [04:20]
MRFeeny me? [04:21]
assbot 11 results for 'meowmix' : [04:21]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the fella with 100 names [04:21]
mircea_popescu oh oh [04:21]
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kakobrekla this guy [04:21]
BingoBoingo If this gambling site operator continues to court thedrinkingrecord for a sponsored post... At what point is accepting money for a labeled sponsored post worth it? 20 BTC? [04:21]
kakobrekla i suspekt thats why Corey joined here. [04:21]
MRFeeny !s freen0deadmin [04:21]
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BingoBoingo kakobrekla: I thought Cory joined because we are cool and happening [04:22]
MRFeeny who is corey? [04:22]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo maybe he should be in wot first ? [04:22]
MRFeeny !s corey [04:22]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Probably. This is probably going to turn into a lulzy kako screencap convo. I mean seriously though. Targeting the personal blog and not the mega news outlet for sponsored whatevers. [04:23]
mircea_popescu maybe just needs to be told. [04:24]
BingoBoingo Will do replying to them next. [04:24]
kakobrekla no idiot wrote to me in like a week :( [04:25]
* kakobrekla worried for bitbet. [04:25]
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asciilifeform back to botnet topic - we will increasingly see pointless acts of hooliganism [04:28]
mircea_popescu seems likely. [04:28]
asciilifeform because actually monetizing all but the most astonishingly large chumpnet for btc has become virtually impossible. [04:28]
asciilifeform and monetizing for any other currency - risk yer arse. [04:29]
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asciilifeform gedankenexperiment [04:29]
asciilifeform say you have 500,000 chumpers. what'll you do. [04:29]
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mircea_popescu well, if you're an idiot, try and fight with me [04:30]
FreeN0deAdmin whats up everyone [04:30]
mircea_popescu if you have any sense, come and grovel abjectly, who knows, maybe i'm feeling employer-y that day [04:30]
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mircea_popescu same thing as if you're a "senior counsel" for the sec, or anything else. [04:30]
FreeN0deAdmin java sucks [04:31]
asciilifeform let's say 100 megahash each (very generous.) [04:31]
asciilifeform this is approx. 0.7 btc/d. [04:31]
BingoBoingo !up Corey [04:31]
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FreeN0deAdmin i will be klined soon [04:31]
mircea_popescu how are cpus doing mh ? [04:31]
FreeN0deAdmin =) [04:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: using unicorn tears. [04:31]
asciilifeform this is a very loose upper bound. [04:31]
FreeN0deAdmin Corey, whats up my nigga [04:32]
mircea_popescu maybe if you're lucky and they're all gaming stations or something. [04:32]
mircea_popescu seems dubious. [04:32]
asciilifeform yes. [04:32]
asciilifeform let's picture that these are all chumps who own asic coffee pot warmers or the like. [04:32]
kakobrekla some laptops get 100mh [04:32]
kakobrekla + [04:32]
kakobrekla gayming machine 1gh [04:32]
asciilifeform and on some planet there are 500,000 of them you can pwn. [04:32]
asciilifeform on planet earth - much smaller figure. [04:33]
asciilifeform by several zeros. [04:33]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i find this very dubious. [04:33]
kakobrekla was? [04:33]
FreeN0deAdmin bitcoin sucks [04:33]
mircea_popescu you mean kh/mh ? [04:33]
FreeN0deAdmin KLINE ME [04:33]
FreeN0deAdmin Corey, KLINE ME [04:34]
kakobrekla !down FreeN0deAdmin [04:34]
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asciilifeform 'masochist: beat me, beat me! sadist: no.' [04:34]
mircea_popescu lol [04:34]
kakobrekla modern single gpus get 700mh+ [04:34]
kakobrekla mh/s [04:34]
asciilifeform gpu aha [04:34]
kakobrekla cpu doesnt measure in mh [04:34]
asciilifeform [04:35]
assbot Non-specialized hardware comparison - Bitcoin [04:35]
asciilifeform old but applicable [04:35]
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kakobrekla yeah my entry is in there. [04:36]
mircea_popescu 6870x4 1150 [04:36]
mircea_popescu thats like 250 [04:36]
mircea_popescu anyway, yeah, it could be 700! [04:36]
kakobrekla yes, my shit gpu does that much. [04:37]
asciilifeform heterogeneity of gpu (plus the need to install chip-specific driver) means that gpu is not a practical target. [04:38]
BingoBoingo My laptop can sustain 12 mh/s if I want to invite a fire hazard [04:38]
kakobrekla was done even if not practical [04:38]
asciilifeform at the very least, not a single one of the several dozen gpu-mining trojans i have collected from the wild actually works if installed as intended [04:38]
asciilifeform (how can this be? cargo cult. easy.) [04:38]
kakobrekla building the pyramids in egypt wasnt practical. [04:38]
kakobrekla still, was done. [04:38]
asciilifeform it was eminently practical. [04:38]
kakobrekla which? [04:39]
asciilifeform pyramids. [04:39]
kakobrekla depends for whom [04:39]
asciilifeform for owner. [04:39]
kakobrekla execution wasnt practical [04:39]
kakobrekla presumably the chumps did the work [04:40]
kakobrekla not the owner [04:40]
asciilifeform point is - even a wildly optimistic figure for yield gives you... the salary of a very skinny engineer. [04:40]
asciilifeform (re: botmines) [04:40]
asciilifeform divvy it up how you like. [04:41]
danielpbarron conspicuous spending of wealth / signals strenth to other cultures [04:41]
kakobrekla clear as day at such difficulty. [04:41]
asciilifeform remember also that botnet will shrink rapidly unless you work to grow it. [04:41]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Does Arc have release date yet? [04:41]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: arc was out ages ago. it was a turd. [04:41]
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BingoBoingo Ah [04:41]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: assuming you were thinking of paul graham's gizmo [04:42]
BingoBoingo Yeah, I'm just way behind [04:42]
asciilifeform what on earth were you reading? [04:42]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Koolaid point of the Google language [04:42]
assbot Why Everyone Hates Go · [04:42]
asciilifeform ah. [04:42]
BingoBoingo Made me forget Arc was already born and died [04:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00074102 = 10.893 BTC [+] {2} [04:43]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not dead as such. 'hacker news' runs on it... [04:45]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Undead is still dead [04:45]
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BingoBoingo Fact of the day: The original Ford LTD in adverisements boasted of having panty cloth seats. [04:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00073975 = 14.2032 BTC [-] {3} [04:49]
BingoBoingo Also if I impled I hit maximum hate yesterday... I was wrong. [04:49]
BingoBoingo Apparently I can hate harde [04:49]
BingoBoingo r [04:49]
asciilifeform 'what those people will say once go gets a concurrent garbage collector that no longer stops the world and has real time guarantees (currently scheduled for 1.5)' << wait, srsly? [04:50]
asciilifeform it has a mark'n'sweeper now?! [04:50]
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mircea_popescu point is - even a wildly optimistic figure for yield gives you... the salary of a very skinny engineer. << these are mostly kids trying to escape from the mines and not knowing how to ask [04:51]
mircea_popescu or for that matter, talk. [04:51]
mircea_popescu illiteracy. [04:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not one in ten thousand can leave the mines. [04:51]
* asciilifeform in the mines [04:51]
mircea_popescu you're in a peculiar situation, of a man married to his craft. kids don't have that problem. [04:52]
mircea_popescu they can come with the clothes on their back. or naked. [04:52]
* asciilifeform wonders what is his craft, that married, because it isn't programming - he actually loathes it with a passion difficult to describe [04:52]
mircea_popescu you know how archimedes of syracuse died ? [04:53]
BingoBoingo * asciilifeform in the mines << As far as I can tell I am not allowed near the mines anymore [04:53]
asciilifeform i know the legend [04:53]
asciilifeform that every kid knows [04:53]
asciilifeform but i didn't behead him personally, so hard to say [04:53]
mircea_popescu "Noli tangere circulos meos" [04:53]
mircea_popescu you know ? don't touch my shits. [04:53]
asciilifeform yeah i get it. [04:53]
asciilifeform 'ain't nobody touches my shit' [04:54]
mircea_popescu lol [04:54]
asciilifeform ^literal! [04:54]
BingoBoingo * asciilifeform wonders what is his craft, that married, because it isn't programming - he actually loathes it with a passion difficult to describe << You love creating. You're an artist. Of course you despise programming. You'll prolly shit on the first loper machine you create [04:54]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i rejected three entirely different designs (different as in the diff b/w dataflow and von neumann) that did not even bother describing. perhaps archaeologists (or the vultures) can get something from my notes. [04:55]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: i rejected three entirely different designs (different as in the diff b/w dataflow and von neumann) that did not even bother describing. perhaps archaeologists (or the vultures) can get something from my notes. << Now you are touching my view of qntra realized. Not as "news" but as cabinet of microfiche [04:56]
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BingoBoingo !up Duffer1 [04:56]
* assbot gives voice to Duffer1 [04:56]
Duffer1 oh hey [04:56]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i call it, in my head, 'ozymandias engineering' [04:56]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [04:57]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 395.03, Best ask: 395.81, Bid-ask spread: 0.78000, Last trade: 395.83, 24 hour volume: 18696.75236105, 24 hour low: 385.92, 24 hour high: 403.0, 24 hour vwap: 393.737990553 [04:57]
asciilifeform << for n00bz [04:57]
assbot Ozymandias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [04:57]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You ever watch 'Breaking Bad' particularly the episode titled Ozymandias? [04:57]
asciilifeform nein [04:57]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Homework. American seeing his end [04:57]
asciilifeform that's the film where they had a proper grignard reaction ? [04:57]
asciilifeform or was it leukhard-wallach [04:57]
asciilifeform birch reduction? [04:58]
* asciilifeform lost in organiker dreams [04:58]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Series where they had an invisible chiral ladder [04:58]
asciilifeform at any rate, 'ozymandias engineering' is the concept where 'the one with the rifle - shoots' [05:00]
asciilifeform that is, you're working on something that you know you will not live to see through. [05:00]
asciilifeform like the cathedrals of old europe. [05:00]
asciilifeform except, even more of a test of will [05:01]
asciilifeform because at least the cathedral folks had some certainty that there will be a cathedral. [05:01]
asciilifeform and when they put down the stones, they generally stayed put. [05:01]
mircea_popescu they had no such certainty. [05:01]
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asciilifeform s/certainty/faith [05:01]
mircea_popescu in fact, the "falling walls" story is exactly that [05:02]
mircea_popescu the narration of their concern that no, there will be nothing there in the end [05:02]
asciilifeform !s falling walls [05:03]
assbot 6 results for 'falling walls' : [05:03]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: how big is the dos that is hitting qntra? [05:03]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller but if you review the logs... [05:04]
mircea_popescu << ahaha check it out, libertard wet dreams. [05:04]
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mircea_popescu it's like reading a comic book written by the author about himself. [05:04]
thestringpuller !s qntra dos [05:04]
assbot 1 results for 'qntra dos' : [05:04]
thestringpuller yea trilema is down too. [05:05]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu will probably need to change gas mask canister soon [05:05]
asciilifeform whoa [05:05]
mircea_popescu myeah. [05:05]
thestringpuller 403 forbidden? [05:05]
mircea_popescu you are not allowed :D [05:06]
kakobrekla ;;isitdown [05:06]
gribble is down [05:06]
BingoBoingo !s dos [05:07]
assbot 99 results for 'dos' : [05:07]
kakobrekla !s !s [05:08]
assbot 5565 results for '!s' : [05:08]
kakobrekla hm not bad [05:08]
kakobrekla meh doesnt work [05:08]
asciilifeform ;;google banana problem [05:08]
gribble Banana Fungus, Insect Outbreak Threaten Global Supply: ; banana problem - ; How the global banana industry is killing the world's favorite fruit ...: [05:09]
BingoBoingo Anyone know a way to get a laptop fan replacement from China that does not take a month? [05:09]
asciilifeform phail [05:09]
kakobrekla search doesnt search '!' [05:09]
asciilifeform [05:09]
assbot banana problem [05:09]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why on earth from china [05:09]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That's where the replacement fans live [05:09]
asciilifeform they also live in usa where others bought same unit ? [05:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14703 @ 0.00074113 = 10.8968 BTC [+] {2} [05:10]
asciilifeform (and lost a different set of parts) [05:10]
BingoBoingo Sure if I want to buy a whole unit. [05:10]
asciilifeform what sort of fan anyway ? [05:10]
BingoBoingo This is the second fan in 3 years though. fan is a weak point [05:10]
BingoBoingo X120e, the only fan in the fucker [05:10]
kakobrekla pay for some express ship? [05:11]
asciilifeform aha, weird custom-molded turd? [05:11]
BingoBoingo Yeah, laptop fan [05:11]
* asciilifeform remembers when these had ordinary square fans [05:11]
BingoBoingo Only vendors want to ship only super cheap e-rate [05:11]
asciilifeform you can usually extend its life if you open and lovingly scrub it [05:12]
asciilifeform first, 'freon', then - EtOH swabs [05:12]
asciilifeform from one pauper to another, listen to advice... [05:13]
BingoBoingo It gets water displacement-40 tomorrow [05:13]
asciilifeform death for plastics [05:13]
asciilifeform bad idea. [05:13]
kakobrekla maybe oil for sewing machine [05:13]
asciilifeform same [05:14]
kakobrekla if you have it [05:14]
asciilifeform just get the crud out [05:14]
kakobrekla wors for a temporary fix [05:14]
kakobrekla until the new fan comes [05:14]
BingoBoingo Worst case I do like last summer and run naked laptop guts on a box fan [05:14]
asciilifeform these things generally aren't built in a way where you can get to the bearing [05:14]
asciilifeform so, can't lubricate [05:14]
BingoBoingo these things generally aren't built in a way where you can get to the bearing so, can't lubricate << This is why you flood the thing [05:15]
asciilifeform remove the fan, outside (e.g., on balcony) blow it with freon [05:15]
kakobrekla uh flood : [05:15]
asciilifeform (sold as 'can of air' where i live, mysteriously) [05:15]
kakobrekla i thought you can get to the bearing, on some of these small fans you can . [05:15]
asciilifeform not the molded laptop gizmos, usually [05:16]
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BingoBoingo not the molded laptop gizmos, usually << Pry and Pry again [05:16]
asciilifeform i still can't fathom how one can own laptop and shy away from cleaning fan [05:16]
BingoBoingo i thought you can get to the bearing, on some of these small fans you can . << Hard which is why I lean towards flooding it [05:16]
kakobrekla i clean it . just vacuum from the top [05:17]
BingoBoingo i still can't fathom how one can own laptop and shy away from cleaning fan << Fan is clean, bearings worn [05:17]
kakobrekla while holding it. [05:17]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: clean. then, 'silicone' or 'teflon' [05:18]
kakobrekla wont fix the fucked up bearing though [05:19]
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BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: clean. then, 'silicone' or 'teflon' << As the online machine sounds like a bee sanctuary now a Mosin solution sounds more tempting than tender love. [05:20]
BingoBoingo !up devthedev [05:20]
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mircea_popescu cazalla & BingoBoingo : i am having a dedicated server comissioned for this job. [05:22]
mircea_popescu it's expensive, but hey, was going to happen eventually anyway. [05:22]
mircea_popescu sorry for all the ups and downs. [05:22]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Better nao than later [05:23]
BingoBoingo This is only day 14 [05:23]
* assbot gives voice to TheNewDeal [05:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00073893 = 8.313 BTC [-] [05:24]
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mircea_popescu while that proceeds (and it's a hot new datacenter where everyone wants a spot so it will take a few days) we'll continue to see sporadic service interruptions and so on. [05:25]
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cazalla i'd love to know who is behind this and why [05:26]
cazalla BingoBoingo, and i sat here 14 days ago thinking this thing would take 6 months to get tracition [05:27]
BingoBoingo Prolly that Coindesk punjab [05:27]
cazalla traction even [05:27]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo, and i sat here 14 days ago thinking this thing would take 6 months to get tracition << Notice how I helped your sanity by not offering this time frame two weeks ago [05:28]
cazalla i guess trying to slip you up with "we need a name" didn't work [05:28]
BingoBoingo Welcome to Bitcoin [05:30]
kakobrekla no name, just logo. [05:30]
TheNewDeal no name, just go? [05:32]
BingoBoingo No Justice, No Peace? [05:33]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: So for a favicon/Twatter avatar... Orange Q over a deep purple background? [05:34]
BingoBoingo !up xiando [05:34]
* assbot gives voice to xiando [05:34]
BingoBoingo !up xinxi [05:34]
* assbot gives voice to xinxi [05:34]
xinxi thanks [05:34]
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ThickAsThieves you can up yourself yknow [05:35]
xinxi yes, I known. auth verify, and then up [05:35]
ThickAsThieves cool [05:35]
xinxi I am wondering is there any automatic way to do so [05:35]
xinxi or I need to do these every time I come here. [05:36]
ben_vulpes you're a programmer, script it [05:36]
ThickAsThieves you could use a bouncer to stay on [05:36]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Bouncers are of the devil [05:36]
BingoBoingo Bouncer can have problems too [05:36]
ThickAsThieves i barely know what i'm talking about saying so [05:37]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: eh? [05:37]
mats_cd03 i pay the devil to keep me online in this channel [05:37]
ben_vulpes have server [05:37]
ben_vulpes run emacs remotely [05:37]
cazalla BingoBoingo, keep it grayscale imo [05:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22772 @ 0.00073821 = 16.8105 BTC [-] {2} [05:37]
ben_vulpes problems? [05:37]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: How strong of authenticaton is a bouncer typically going to demand? [05:37]
ben_vulpes mine, ssh keys [05:38]
xinxi oh, I can also run my emacs in my server. [05:38]
ben_vulpes idiots', no idea. [05:38]
xinxi that’s actually a good idea [05:38]
ben_vulpes xinxi [05:38]
ben_vulpes xinxi: look into mosh as well [05:38]
BingoBoingo xinxi: Flash you BIOS so it is just emacs [05:38]
BingoBoingo cazalla: K [05:38]
ben_vulpes xinxi: extremely robust connection switchting, ideal for the laptop user. [05:38]
xinxi is there any emacs bios rom? [05:39]
xinxi that sounds cool tho. [05:39]
ben_vulpes << monkeys fly from my arse if this is true. << bezzletron [05:39]
assbot Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project| Reuters [05:39]
cazalla speaking of twitter BingoBoingo, sgornick is yet to return to hand it over : i had the opportunity to register it myself but didn't bother [05:40]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Well he'll return unless... bus accident [05:40]
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mats_cd03 ;;premium bitstamp btce [05:44]
gribble Premium of Bitstamp over BTC-E is currently 2.29648857163 %. [05:44]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [05:45]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 396.09, Best ask: 397.23, Bid-ask spread: 1.14000, Last trade: 397.25, 24 hour volume: 18118.30865539, 24 hour low: 385.92, 24 hour high: 403.0, 24 hour vwap: 393.367683069 [05:45]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [05:45]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 397.25, vol: 18118.30865539 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 388.332, vol: 6874.12898 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 396.2, vol: 30017.17618583 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 395.273664, vol: 63463.52380000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 400.30913, vol: 11.22832406 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 396.905861, vol: 125.83410209 | Volume-weighted last average: 395.409890807 [05:45]
kakobrekla b-c needs renaming i guess [05:46]
BingoBoingo prolly [05:47]
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BingoBoingo !up r3wt [05:52]
* assbot gives voice to r3wt [05:52]
BingoBoingo Hello r3wt [05:53]
r3wt thanks man [05:53]
r3wt hi, hows it going [05:53]
BingoBoingo What are you up to today? [05:53]
BingoBoingo Things are going great [05:53]
r3wt bout to do the 3 S's before bed [05:53]
TheNewDeal shit, smoke, sit? [05:53]
BingoBoingo Getting a DOS out the ass because Mullenwang of Wordpress can't stop sucking that dick [05:53]
r3wt i had saw that someone had pinged looking for me in june on the otc site [05:53]
BingoBoingo Ah [05:53]
r3wt shower, sh*t, shave [05:53]
r3wt lol [05:54]
BingoBoingo No real person shaves, third s is smoke [05:54]
r3wt artifexd, you around? [05:54]
BingoBoingo He may not be available [05:54]
r3wt i quit smoking in march [05:54]
BingoBoingo Tobacco? [05:54]
TheNewDeal ha [05:54]
r3wt i quit drugs in february of 2013 [05:54]
artifexd Yup [05:55]
r3wt so yes, tobacco [05:55]
BingoBoingo Sucks [05:55]
BingoBoingo Maybe if I didn't tobacco my laptop fan wouldn't need replaced annually [05:55]
r3wt i have an incredibly dull life. i wake up code all day, sleep repeat [05:55]
artifexd r3wt: What can I do ya fer? [05:55]
BingoBoingo r3wt: Have any dreams of being a newsman? [05:55]
mircea_popescu shit, two weeks eh! [05:56]
r3wt but anyone here who may have invested in openex or be owed some money, i got you. i got a real job now so i'm on the ascent again [05:56]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah, this is two weeks day [05:56]
r3wt BingoBoingo: what do you mean? [05:56]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust r3wt [05:57]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: never [05:57]
r3wt remind me how to auth again? [05:57]
r3wt i just paste my address right? [05:57]
BingoBoingo r3wt: is a thing. It pissed people off. Attracts massive DOS attacks in its second week of life. Just take a minute to imagine yourself as a newsman. [05:57]
BingoBoingo !s bcauth [05:58]
assbot 48 results for 'bcauth' : [05:58]
r3wt bcauth r3wt [05:58]
r3wt ;;bcauth r3w [05:58]
gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. [05:58]
r3wt ;;bcauth r3wt [05:58]
gribble Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!addaa87c@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2165f1dc184c18a321305fa5ee114f7bf3b9034ae14ca673225fc187 [05:58]
r3wt ;;gettrust r3wt [05:59]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user r3wt to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: never [05:59]
BingoBoingo r3wt: You have a GPG key? [06:00]
r3wt no i have to sign with bitcoin-core [06:00]
r3wt just waiting on it to load [06:01]
r3wt i still don't get it about [06:01]
danielpbarron if you're smart enough to not use a web-wallet, you should be smart enough to GPG [06:02]
BingoBoingo Wait you run bitcoin core, and not a saner 0.5-0.8? [06:02]
artifexd r3wt: You summoned me. Why? [06:02]
r3wt you summoned me on june 05 2014, do you remember why? [06:02]
BingoBoingo i still don't get it about << Cunt, raw is basically just a coindesk/Cryptocoinnews killer, No big deal [06:02]
artifexd Hmmm... Nope. [06:02]
r3wt alright, did you have coins on OpenEx maybe? [06:03]
artifexd I have slept since then. [06:03]
r3wt lol, true stuff [06:03]
BingoBoingo artifexd: He ran an atc exchange. It failed [06:03]
r3wt pm me your username, i can check if you did [06:03]
artifexd At one time, yeah. I pulled them all off though. [06:03]
r3wt oh ok. well i'm trying to hunt down all my loose ends and make sure they've been tied off [06:03]
BingoBoingo ;;rate r3wt 1 asshole. Fucker. Destructive. Not that bad in context. [06:03]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user r3wt has been recorded. [06:03]
artifexd I'm fairly certain that you don't owe me anything. [06:03]
artifexd I am certain enough to not negrate you about it. :) [06:04]
BingoBoingo r3wt: If you can figure out how to auth you can up yourself [06:04]
BingoBoingo !down r3wt [06:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19774 @ 0.00073756 = 14.5845 BTC [-] {2} [06:07]
BingoBoingo !up r3wt [06:08]
* assbot gives voice to r3wt [06:08]
r3wt ;;bcauth r3wt [06:08]
gribble Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!addaa87c@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8de1384f466bb5e40b3674399986491cf19a87fd964ee18c0fcc1324 [06:08]
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r3wt ;;bcverify GxlztlR855hC+cyycwgJ5jFhmOLa3Scm3AkaY5QYHizO8p737n256OS6467Uke2uDAL7zIG+J25ykq9XQ/pG9kI= [06:11]
gribble You are now authenticated for user 'r3wt' with address 1337xmR8JRzwKonFgd17dhVo9NHQiP7875 [06:11]
r3wt !up r3wt [06:12]
artifexd r3wt: you need to pm that to assbot [06:14]
artifexd Like: /msg assbot !up [06:14]
* assbot gives voice to r3wt [06:14]
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artifexd !down r3wt [06:14]
r3wt !down artifexd [06:14]
artifexd There ya go [06:14]
r3wt nice, thanks for the lesson [06:15]
TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats [06:16]
gribble Current Blocks: 325526 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 1065 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 4 hours, 42 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36244226609.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.54759 [06:16]
r3wt ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 asshole. Fucker. Destructive. not that bad in context. [06:17]
BingoBoingo %d [06:17]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded. [06:17]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 325076.50 in 132 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.69 [06:17]
BingoBoingo thx r3wt [06:17]
r3wt ;;rating BingoBoingo [06:17]
gribble Error: "rating" is not a valid command. [06:17]
BingoBoingo ;;gettrust assbot r3wt [06:18]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask r3wt!addaa87c@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Trust relationship from user assbot to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Wed Oct 15 23:01:22 2014 [06:18]
r3wt ;;gettrust BingoBoingo [06:18]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Trust relationship from user r3wt to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013 [06:18]
artifexd Like ;;rate <> <> <> [06:18]
artifexd ;;rate r3wt 1 Ran failed exchange but appears capable of learning [06:18]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user r3wt has been recorded. [06:18]
r3wt does this mean i am supposed to give you a rating now? [06:19]
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artifexd No [06:19]
nubbins` heh [06:19]
r3wt ` [06:19]
artifexd You give ratings according to what you want. It isn't a tit-for-tat thing. [06:20]
r3wt well you seem like a nice person, [06:20]
r3wt i'm just too nice in general [06:20]
artifexd Although, you will often find rating appear in pairs because many ratings are in response to specific events that involve both individuals. Hence it is appropriate for both to rate. [06:21]
BingoBoingo r3wt: Ratings are near the opposite of a tit for tat if done right [06:21]
r3wt wait til trade fortress finds out i have a otc profile [06:21]
r3wt i'll have like -quintillion trust [06:21]
nubbins` i have poor rating reciprocity [06:21]
r3wt ;;gettrust nubbins` [06:22]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`! Trust relationship from user r3wt to user nubbins`: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013 [06:22]
BingoBoingo r3wt: Is he still... around? [06:22]
BingoBoingo Been nearly a year since TradeFortress Broke Broke [06:23]
r3wt yeah, him and blazr logged in this week to give me negative trust [06:23]
r3wt now i have the pretty red paint on my forum profile again [06:23]
BingoBoingo Forum Trust means dick [06:23]
artifexd Remember that, sometimes, a negative rating can be a good thing. Depending on the rater. [06:23]
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BingoBoingo r3wt: Who has the most negative forum trust you see [06:23]
BingoBoingo For me it is Gar255 [06:24]
r3wt when bitmit was online, i used to stalk Gar255's auctions and bid them to 50k+ [06:24]
r3wt shilling auctions is low [06:25]
TheNewDeal !s tradefortress [06:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00073882 = 9.0875 BTC [+] {2} [06:28]
dub !s tradefartress [06:29]
assbot 47 results for 'tradefartress' : [06:29]
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TheNewDeal ;;asks 400 [06:33]
gribble Bitstamp | There are currently 177.53316 bitcoins offered at or under 400.0 USD, worth 70780.2051744 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0352 seconds [06:34]
ThickAsThieves price at a standoff today [06:35]
BingoBoingo !up devthedev [06:35]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [06:50]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 395.45, Best ask: 395.91, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 396.01, 24 hour volume: 17778.40642803, 24 hour low: 385.92, 24 hour high: 403.0, 24 hour vwap: 393.376165 [06:50]
BingoBoingo ;;niggers.txt [06:50]
gribble Error: "niggers.txt" is not a valid command. [06:50]
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RagnarsBitch [06:57]
cazalla good luck ebola! [06:57]
mircea_popescu i hear it's cured if you cough on a virgin [06:57]
BingoBoingo I am H8 [06:59]
BingoBoingo And neither Dallas nurse is white... [06:59]
devthedev New (First) blog post: [06:59]
BingoBoingo One is a charlie and the other black [06:59]
r3wt [07:01]
assbot Weed Protects You From Ebola - Sasquatch Glass [07:01]
r3wt how bout that [07:01]
r3wt devthedev: fag [07:02]
devthedev heh? [07:03]
RagnarsBitch When do we get s.obola? [07:04]
RagnarsBitch I'm buyin [07:04]
r3wt [07:04]
r3wt devthedev [07:04]
BingoBoingo r3wt devthedev play nice or niggers.txt [07:04]
r3wt i just wanted some forum trust, gah [07:05]
r3wt some pretty green numbers [07:06]
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BingoBoingo !up devthedev [07:08]
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BingoBoingo !up r3wt [07:08]
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BingoBoingo r3wt: Forum trust doesn't work [07:09]
BingoBoingo At all [07:09]
BingoBoingo Period [07:09]
BingoBoingo Full Stahp [07:09]
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r3wt i know, i was trying to "buy trust" according to Vod and the fag alliance [07:10]
BingoBoingo Eh, Vod is a sensitive tool. [07:11]
BingoBoingo Solving the worng problem [07:11]
r3wt Vod is a footstool for Blazr and Tradefortress. [07:11]
r3wt he does what he's told [07:11]
BingoBoingo I doubt that, VOd is his own monster, that's what makes him Peter. [07:12]
BingoBoingo So Imma blow in the meter. People got guesses on my BAC??? [07:12]
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r3wt .5 [07:13]
r3wt you salty af [07:13]
r3wt legally dead too [07:13]
TheNewDeal .165 [07:13]
BingoBoingo .38 and full of hate. [07:13]
TheNewDeal damn [07:14]
TheNewDeal how many drinks over how many hours is that? [07:14]
BingoBoingo r3 was closer over the range [07:14]
BingoBoingo A lot over not enough? [07:14]
TheNewDeal Price is Right rules though, I win [07:15]
r3wt $1 [07:15]
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BingoBoingo I dunno how many people follow baseball, but in the last hour tonight has become a bad time to make me unhappy. [07:18]
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BingoBoingo !up Guest98883 [07:21]
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BingoBoingo H8 is what I do [07:23]
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BingoBoingo !up moldysnizz [07:29]
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BingoBoingo Hello moldysnizz [07:29]
BingoBoingo ;;google bitcoin inelasticity [07:30]
gribble Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; About trading and value pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: [07:30]
TheNewDeal ;;isitdown [07:32]
gribble is down [07:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1595 @ 0.00073891 = 1.1786 BTC [+] [07:34]
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r3wt ;;isitdown [07:37]
gribble is up [07:37]
Apocalyptic openex is still a thing ? [07:38]
r3wt development server [07:38]
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BingoBoingo !up Trix You aren't owned??? [07:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00074062 = 11.3685 BTC [+] {3} [07:45]
BingoBoingo I H8 so much right nao [07:46]
r3wt eat a peach nigga, life is peachy [07:47]
TheNewDeal qntra and trilema down. fuck it i'm out [07:47]
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BingoBoingo No, Matheney is going to spoil the I-70 series by losing out [07:47]
BingoBoingo And then no I-70 series [07:47]
BingoBoingo Because just broke ass Kansas City [07:47]
BingoBoingo then [07:47]
BingoBoingo And on top of it all Matheney is anti-porn [07:48]
BingoBoingo !s Matheney [07:48]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [16:38]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 383.07, Best ask: 384.74, Bid-ask spread: 1.67000, Last trade: 383.04, 24 hour volume: 17282.36997204, 24 hour low: 376.0, 24 hour high: 400.62, 24 hour vwap: 389.528943129 [16:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00073497 = 3.8586 BTC [-] [16:39]
mats_cd03 ;;premium bitstamp btce [16:39]
gribble Premium of Bitstamp over BTC-E is currently 1.30003384954 %. [16:39]
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gabriel_laddel mats_cd03: RagnarDanneskjol: oh, the fuzzy border between fraud and incompetence. [16:42]
mircea_popescu now that promises a juicy log. brb :[ [16:43]
RagnarDanneskjol quite [16:43]
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mircea_popescu so qntra was back for a coupla hours there, but down again now lol. [16:58]
wywialm the only thing visible is the IIS screen. Does qntra run on MSFT soft?:) [16:59]
mircea_popescu wywialm it should just be a closed connection, page you see is whatever your browser feeds you [17:00]
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wywialm oh, fine [17:01]
mircea_popescu btw, cazalla bingoboingo and everyone else in the same situation : if the blob gpg spits out when you sign contains a SHA1 you are using the older, and perhaps not all that secure digest algo. you should move on to sha512 either with --digest-algo SHA512 or else edit gpg.conf to insert personal-digest-preferences SHA512 SHA384 SHA256 [17:03]
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wywialm and sadly, trilema is down as well [17:04]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [17:04]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 377.15, Best ask: 378.85, Bid-ask spread: 1.70000, Last trade: 378.85, 24 hour volume: 19177.01825759, 24 hour low: 376.0, 24 hour high: 400.62, 24 hour vwap: 388.182705885 [17:04]
mircea_popescu ;;isitdown [17:04]
gribble is down [17:04]
mircea_popescu o.O [17:04]
mircea_popescu ;;isitdown [17:05]
gribble is down [17:05]
bounce ``I would argue immediately that voting should be mandatory and it should be online. Of course, we can cover for all the fraud and I donu2019t think it makes the procedure any less robust, in fact quite the opposite.'' -- [17:05]
assbot Martha Lane Fox: YEUCH! The Internet is MADE by MEN?!? The Register [17:05]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, looks like your servers are having a tough time [17:07]
mircea_popescu well this is a tiny thing was supposed to hold you know, low traffic blogs [17:07]
mircea_popescu i guess not so low traffic in the end. [17:07]
kakobrekla meh [17:08]
kakobrekla so much of traffic these days is BS bots [17:08]
kakobrekla i have been getting shitload "?action=register" bots for some time now [17:08]
kakobrekla on sites that arent even wp [17:08]
Apocalyptic they search for /phpmyadmin on mines [17:10]
kakobrekla that too [17:10]
kakobrekla funny thing is that same ones are coming back again and again [17:11]
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kakobrekla "o no wp here? lets try again in a few hours." [17:12]
Apocalyptic heh, indeed [17:12]
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mircea_popescu lmao. pro tip : if you put Deny from in your droplist ;;isitdown will say it's down. [17:12]
mircea_popescu ;;isitdown [17:12]
gribble is up [17:12]
kakobrekla up, but verboten [17:13]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [17:13]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 374.09, Best ask: 374.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 374.5, 24 hour volume: 19991.90119018, 24 hour low: 374.0, 24 hour high: 400.62, 24 hour vwap: 387.533001503 [17:13]
kakobrekla no meat. [17:13]
mircea_popescu shit i just asked half hour ago it was 385 [17:13]
mircea_popescu what is this scandal! [17:13]
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kakobrekla what a scamderful world [17:14]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla srsly, you don't see the big T ? [17:15]
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kakobrekla huh? [17:17]
kakobrekla on trilema? 403 verboten [17:17]
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TomServo Trilema is working over here. [17:19]
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mircea_popescu cheers. [17:20]
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wywialm by the way, is there any doc regarding the working of the deedBot? [17:21]
kakobrekla someone should put that in the wiki [17:23]
mircea_popescu wywialm well the deedbot is atm dead, but being reimplemented [17:24]
mircea_popescu so check back in a week or two ? [17:24]
wywialm thanks for the info [17:25]
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RagnarDanneskjol think it might be sooner than that even [17:26]
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pete_dushenski howdy. [17:27]
pete_dushenski everyone ready for another full day of ddosing and watching the dow bleed? [17:28]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic kakobrekla speaking of dumbbots, [17:28]
assbot Host: /fckeditor/editor/filemanager/browser/default/connector - [17:28]
wywialm hello, pete [17:28]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski nothing like that can happen. aren't you aware the dow is the penis of the biggest greatest richest most important country IN THE COUNTRY !?>!?! [17:28]
mircea_popescu "national", dude! [17:29]
pete_dushenski "in the entire first world!" [17:29]
pete_dushenski ;;seen pankkake [17:31]
gribble pankkake was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 0 hours, 47 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: here is 0.000195. [17:31]
pete_dushenski ^weird. [17:31]
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pete_dushenski so pankkake is awol, no reply to my gpg-gram about vps nodes, then… this: [17:32]
assbot The Difference Between Weak Hands And Strong Hands | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski [17:32]
pete_dushenski "This is so stupid on so many levels." << lol and gpg signed [17:32]
kakobrekla does it exist a collection of ips of such fucktarded bots [17:32]
mircea_popescu not publicly afaik [17:33]
kakobrekla would be handy to have [17:33]
mircea_popescu you know this is perhaps a good point... and trilema has a shitton of them [17:33]
mircea_popescu brb awking. [17:33]
pete_dushenski << netflix just lost 1/4 of its value o_O [17:36]
assbot NFLX: Summary for Netflix, Inc.- Yahoo! Finance [17:36]
pete_dushenski well, "value" [17:36]
mircea_popescu just as long as fb is still inflated~! [17:37]
mircea_popescu what's 5 bn give or take. [17:37]
mircea_popescu anyway, if it was indeed over the growth SLOWdown they reported, [17:37]
mircea_popescu this is going to be a hell of a thursday/friday [17:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25498 @ 0.00073543 = 18.752 BTC [-] {3} [17:38]
pete_dushenski and quite the oct/nov. [17:39]
Apocalyptic pete_dushenski, I thought you were actually joking [17:40]
pete_dushenski Apocalyptic: about? [17:40]
Apocalyptic << netflix just lost 1/4 of its value o_O [17:40]
assbot NFLX: Summary for Netflix, Inc.- Yahoo! Finance [17:40]
pete_dushenski Apocalyptic: lol nope [17:40]
pete_dushenski easy come easy go on wall street [17:40]
pete_dushenski i shit you not! [17:41]
Apocalyptic when you will see -25% on GOOG or AAPL that would be the day [17:42]
mircea_popescu yesterday's log about what's news and what isn't will be so lulzy once ~that one~ qntra article ends up in the position of the stormcaller, greatest news piece ever published etc etc... [17:42]
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pete_dushenski [17:46]
assbot Dyson's 20 Best Inventions of the Year [17:46]
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pete_dushenski i think the next whatsapp is on that list [17:47]
wywialm pete_dushenski, re the Dow: you should rather see the euro stoxx index [17:50]
wywialm or italy's ftsemib [17:50]
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pete_dushenski wywialm: that bad eh? [17:53]
wywialm and greece bond yields climb again, we may see two digits very soon :) [17:56]
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wywialm in eu, only poland strong today [17:57]
mircea_popescu argentina is fine too lol [17:57]
thickasthieves dem greecy grecians [17:57]
mircea_popescu and stoxx is Daily change (absolute) -1.21% (-34.93) [17:58]
mircea_popescu course was under 2800 earlier. [17:58]
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bounce wasn't about what's news but what's newswriting. doesn't matter if it turns out to be prophetic later; prophecy isn't the function of the newsreporter. [17:58]
wywialm it was -4% today [17:58]
thickasthieves tbf, mp never claimed to be newsman [17:59]
mircea_popescu bounce orly ? [17:59]
mircea_popescu mayhap you confuse the newsman with the archeologist ? [18:00]
thickasthieves he just claimed to know details of gov conrpiracy [18:00]
mircea_popescu by its very definition news is confirmed later [18:00]
mircea_popescu if it weren't confirmed later it wouldn't be news. [18:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15540 @ 0.00073855 = 11.4771 BTC [+] {2} [18:00]
thickasthieves semantics [18:00]
mircea_popescu like you know, math isn't news, even considering most people don't know it. [18:00]
mircea_popescu no, this is substance. [18:00]
thickasthieves joking [18:00]
thickasthieves semantics is the new debate destroyer havent you heard [18:01]
mircea_popescu only for hitler. [18:01]
thickasthieves whenever someone is defining something differently than you, just say semantics and they lose [18:01]
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mircea_popescu in other news today, mp loves pulling people's chains. [18:02]
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mats_cd03 these hoes ain't loyal ♬ [18:05]
xinxi RagnarDanneskjol - the sig was added before I came here and knew MPOE. I’ll definitely revise it. [18:05]
xinxi thanks for letting me know. [18:06]
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gabriel_laddel ;; gettrust xinxi [18:08]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user xinxi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: never [18:08]
wywialm fyi: [18:10]
assbot It's the economy, stupid , Scott Sumner | EconLog | Library of Economics and Liberty [18:10]
gabriel_laddel ;; rate xinxi -2 doesn't understand that he doesn't understand English, or is fraudster/incompetent [18:13]
gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. [18:13]
mircea_popescu what's that all about ? [18:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00073791 = 16.8612 BTC [-] {3} [18:13]
mats_cd03 relax a bit, gabriel_laddel. guy's new. [18:14]
RagnarDanneskjol dude is rather deceitful imo [18:14]
RagnarDanneskjol nis nick is/was wangxinxi gabriel_laddel [18:16]
thickasthieves we got him on watch, dunno if he's done anything outright scam yet [18:16]
gabriel_laddel RagnarDanneskjol: thank you. [18:17]
thickasthieves but i share your concern, [18:17]
thickasthieves that he's here to convince us to try his exchange [18:17]
thickasthieves and to then "get hacked" [18:17]
mats_cd03 [18:19]
assbot College-Application Essay [18:19]
mircea_popescu how do we distinguish this from sheer paranoia ? [18:19]
RagnarDanneskjol if you read his logs-and his innane discussions on the forum -its pretty clear.. I very rarely accuse anyone of actually being deceitful [18:20]
RagnarDanneskjol a much greater crime than run otf the mill scamming [18:20]
mircea_popescu more interested in the general point tbh, i have no idea what this kid's story is, but in general derpy newcomers with a drive and deceitful scammers with a plan would look quite similar, at least during the first 1k lines or w/e, i think [18:21]
RagnarDanneskjol i could put together all the citations, would take a while [18:22]
mircea_popescu nah [18:22]
RagnarDanneskjol very subtle and calculated type [18:22]
thickasthieves well it's what wot is for [18:22]
mircea_popescu not worth the trouble. [18:22]
RagnarDanneskjol right [18:23]
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gabriel_laddel RagnarDanneskjol: you would classify him as "subtle"? [18:23]
RagnarDanneskjol heh - no, the deceit is [18:23]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol im not saying that persona jkudgement is invalid in any case. obviously all we have to go on is the judgement entered by individuals. but i think the general point is nevertheless interesting, how does one tell ? [18:23]
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RagnarDanneskjol life experience, inference, threat modeling,etc [18:24]
mircea_popescu just as long as it doesn't reduce to a "she's a woman/politician/newbie and her lips are moving so -> lying" [18:25]
RagnarDanneskjol of course [18:25]
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mircea_popescu incidentally, where have all the "are women more deceitful than men" studies gone ? [18:26]
mircea_popescu all the rage a while ago. [18:26]
bounce the low end scam is fairly obvious to spot with a little experience looking at the patters in -otc [18:27]
mircea_popescu certainly. [18:27]
mircea_popescu i mean, i didn't pick up anything whatsoever in the case of this xinxi guy. nor did i look into it in any depth. however, consider the case of the r3wt kid. now there, i did pick up roughly the same vibe i imagine you peeps are discussing. and yet, months later, [18:30]
mircea_popescu "r3wt: alright, did you have coins on OpenEx maybe? r3wt: but anyone here who may have invested in openex or be owed some money, i got you. i got a real job now so i'm on the ascent again" [18:30]
mircea_popescu turns out he was just a derpy noob after all. [18:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00073474 = 2.6451 BTC [-] [18:32]
mircea_popescu in any case, pattern matching is just by-hand bayesian filtering. it sort-of works, but it isn't a solution or anything [18:33]
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bounce didn't quite follow that, but one might surmise there's a fine line between stupidity and malice [18:34]
mircea_popescu either that, or just kids are born malicious [18:35]
gabriel_laddel the question is, is it useful to differentiate? [18:35]
gabriel_laddel (from an investment prespective) [18:35]
mircea_popescu from an investment perspective, no. from a community perspective, however, yes. [18:35]
gabriel_laddel *perspective [18:35]
mircea_popescu in fact, making that difference is the absolute best form of charity [18:35]
mircea_popescu no doubt in my mind on that score. [18:35]
mircea_popescu it beats giving old people soup by a blowout. [18:36]
mircea_popescu to make it plainer, how does a single woman distinguish a suitor from a serial killer ? they both approach her. [18:37]
mircea_popescu this is, incidentally, the true driving force behind the "impropriety" trend, that took skirts from the ankle to the hip and women from no partners to a dozen a decade. [18:37]
mircea_popescu this simple fact : the only solution is a wot, and when most men have fucked most women the serial killers stand out like sore thumbs. [18:38]
mircea_popescu this is why we can't be both rich and pure, and this is why islam in its present state has no future. [18:38]
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bounce so we have less serial kills, less serial rapes, and so on now? [18:40]
wywialm mircea_popescu, can you elaborate futher on the islam part? [18:40]
mircea_popescu bounce nope. of course not. however, the incidence per sex act is lower, for one, and the woman that cares to think can pretty well avoid them. [18:40]
mircea_popescu (in the narrow definition that she doesn't go with one, abducions aren't in our universe here) [18:41]
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mircea_popescu wywialm the only notable innovation islam a sa christian sect brings is the hard (and somewhat antiquated) requirement for a certain split of the gender roles. [18:41]
mircea_popescu if it gives that up it simply becomes yet another protestantism. [18:42]
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bounce not going to happen, that with its vendor lock-in [18:43]
mircea_popescu quite. [18:43]
mircea_popescu but it's not going to prosper, either. [18:43]
wywialm by the way, how one can obtain historical data of MPEx stocks, as well as the most recent prices? [18:47]
mircea_popescu recent prices you can query the bots or the jsons. historical gotta talk to someone who has been doing the querying. [18:47]
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wywialm you do not store historical quotes, do you? [18:50]
bounce [18:50]
mircea_popescu nope. [18:50]
mircea_popescu bounce does it totally blow me away ? [18:51]
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bounce dunno. peak of incidence seems to've bean the 80s [18:52]
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mircea_popescu still, you have sex inflation that's unaccountable. [18:54]
mircea_popescu if the pop was 100mn in 1944, and the average woman fucked 0.1 men a decade, that's 5mn fucks that decade. if you had 500 rapes that's 100 rpm [18:54]
mircea_popescu if today the average woman fucks 12 men this decade, that's 1.8bn fucks. if you have 15k rapes that [18:55]
mircea_popescu 's actually less rpm [18:55]
mircea_popescu even without accounting for the inflation of rape brought through redefinition. [18:56]
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mircea_popescu if you read sexus, half the stuff in there would be prosecuted today, it was all good fun and in the spirit of sportsmanship at the time. [18:57]
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bounce right enough about the population growth. and the mores. at the same time we're also opener about having the sex; they still fucked around in victorian england, just everyone pretended it didn't happen in public [18:58]
mircea_popescu they marginally fucked. [18:58]
mircea_popescu i don't think what they did would meet my definition of fucking, dunno about yours [18:58]
* bounce hasn't made a study about it [18:58]
mircea_popescu but they had no half'n'half, which from what i hear from other people's wives is the standard fare these days [18:58]
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bounce sheesh, that's some tortured english. that's what you get for discussing killing and raping, eh [19:00]
mircea_popescu wait, what did i do ?! [19:00]
bounce not you [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.16759665 BTC to 16`255 shares, 7183 satoshi per share [19:02]
mircea_popescu at any rate, my argument here is that the very reason "we" are more open about it is because WOMEN are more open about it, and they are more open about it because their safety requires it and they finally figured it out [19:02]
bounce eh, can't be arsed to try and make a nice graph out of serial kills / total pop over time [19:03]
mircea_popescu well you have the excuse you're not an anthropologist, so not really your job to do that anyway. [19:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HASH] [PAID] 3.75949896 BTC to 144`374 shares, 2604 satoshi per share [19:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.15194624 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 448 satoshi per share [19:03]
bounce well, assuming so, that'd mean they're becoming more independent. less excuse to hide behind a strong man and so on. [19:05]
mircea_popescu right. and speaking of the victorians, they most definitely didn't have the current highschool/college situation, where pretty much every girl has fucked pretty much every guy, [19:06]
mircea_popescu unless it wasn't worth the hassle because her friends did and meh [19:06]
bounce the serial killer statistics are too marginal to really drive this though, so it'd have to be perception or something else. can't be the sole driver. [19:06]
mircea_popescu nah, marginal gains can be enough [19:07]
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mircea_popescu humans are meta machines, the PERCEPTION of the danger is the driver, not the actual danger. [19:07]
mircea_popescu and for the single woman with no contacts, the situation is fucking terrifing. so this guy asked you out. well ? [19:07]
mircea_popescu !up moriarty [19:07]
-assbot- You voiced moriarty for 30 minutes. [19:07]
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moriarty think of perception as inputs to the machine [19:07]
moriarty and you don't need to consider meta anything [19:07]
mircea_popescu !down moriarty [19:08]
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bounce well, yeah, "terrism" is keeping our rulers busy but realistically the risk is less than getting raped then murdered by $improbable_ethnic [19:08]
mircea_popescu that was fast eh. [19:08]
mircea_popescu bounce but $improbable_ethnic is hawt@! [19:08]
bounce let's assemble a pop band out of $improbable_ethic roughnecks and float them on the stock market [19:09]
mircea_popescu and "terrorism" is a fantastic driver of behaviour. i have all these reports about adults, ADULTS!!11 mind you, freezing in their tracks because the kindergarten caregiver has said so. [19:09]
mircea_popescu it boggles the mind. [19:09]
ben_vulpes morning, fanatics. [19:09]
mircea_popescu it's beyond the inconceivable, for me. [19:09]
mircea_popescu but i'm rooting for twister being introduced by the tsa [19:10]
ben_vulpes humans can't handle statistics. big disaster with 0% likelihood freezes the brain in its place. [19:10]
* bounce is still groping for the reasons why the ruli^Wpoliticking elite likes it so much [19:10]
mircea_popescu or w/e that thing is called where teenagers try to touch colored spots in order to have an excuse to rub together [19:10]
ben_vulpes oh, acid. [19:10]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes no dude, it's for lame churchkids [19:11]
ben_vulpes no i know [19:11]
mircea_popescu << there, retardopedia knows all about it. [19:11]
assbot Twister (game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [19:11]
ben_vulpes but touching colored spots (to the tongue) for an excuse to rub together [19:11]
ben_vulpes just crying out for a bad drug joke [19:11]
mircea_popescu lolk [19:11]
bounce moriarty: do you have a script messaging everybody in the channel about ##econometrics or something? [19:12]
bounce !up moriarty [19:12]
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kakobrekla hm, i just emailed instructions for my host in de to my host in fr. [19:12]
moriarty bounce, ##econometrics is awesome [19:13]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla .de, .fr, early version of gpg keys. hope they can't decode ? :D [19:13]
bounce that isn't an answer to the question [19:13]
kakobrekla hehe [19:13]
moriarty bounce, so i just got laid with a hot russian babe [19:13]
ben_vulpes ##econometrics has its moments, but it's mostly people arguing about noise in the signal [19:13]
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moriarty ben_vulpes, noise is to those who are unable to understand the signal [19:14]
* moriarty shrugs [19:14]
mircea_popescu !down moriarty [19:14]
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ben_vulpes #btc-pricetalk, but for everything. [19:14]
mircea_popescu dude you're curdling my capuccino. [19:14]
ben_vulpes the notion that anyone's getting signal out of the market ticking up or down is absurd. [19:14]
mircea_popescu i think i was there once, but it was tumbleweed city. [19:15]
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mircea_popescu anyway, if it's anything like this dude, it'd basically lesswrong/meatballswiki/somethingawful hivemind. unemployable graduates with fixed if erroneous ideas "about the world" [19:15]
bounce depends. was there quite a while but left. apparently the spammer doesn't remember. [19:15]
mircea_popescu considering how much they spent implanting the nonsense in the skull, it ain't never coming out. [19:16]
bounce should run for senate then, eh. [19:16]
mircea_popescu the notion that anyone's getting signal out of the market ticking up or down is absurd. << you know the interestin thing about humans is, the talented musician/painter/we can transform the brownian motion of the atmosphere into signal. [19:17]
mircea_popescu more about the minds than the subject matter, i say. [19:17]
ben_vulpes no wai [19:17]
mircea_popescu bounce yeah, it worked fine back when there was one of these idiots per university. at 1k unis and 400 seats it was still feasible. [19:17]
ben_vulpes f(chaos) -> melody? [19:17]
mircea_popescu but by now, with half a million of them choking reddit and "social media"... [19:17]
mircea_popescu (and that "back then" time is probably captured in road trip. tom green is the stereotypical libertard, 1990s version) [19:18]
mircea_popescu meanwhile they multiplied to the degree they're the premier failure mode of the young adult. [19:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00073986 = 3.6253 BTC [+] [19:18]
bounce sounds like a serious luxury problem [19:19]
mircea_popescu "“Citizens capable of contributing to the development of a sustainable society must first develop empathy. This empathy will be developed through an advanced awareness of oppression and inequity that exists at a local and national level. Students will become aware of inequities, examine why these inequities exist, understand the concept of institutionalized privilege, and recognize systematized oppression (e.g. indiv [19:19]
mircea_popescu idual, institutional, and societal). " << ironically, they got there by actually FOLLOWING the education system [19:19]
mircea_popescu as opposed to all the failure modes in history prior to that, which resulted from failing to follow the educational paradigm [19:20]
mircea_popescu i guess this is what you get when you adapt the schooling to "the needs and capacities" of the students. [19:20]
bounce thus we conclude that successful socialism is a good way to bring down society [19:20]
ben_vulpes in other news, i rigidified my bed [19:21]
ben_vulpes put it on felt pads for ease of moving and cleaning [19:21]
ben_vulpes and now the damn thing squeaks abominably during any vigorous motion [19:21]
mircea_popescu bounce what a novel thought that is :p [19:21]
ben_vulpes *mid-bed leg bends slightly, overcomes static friction, jitters across floor* [19:21]
ben_vulpes *everyone loses focus* [19:21]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes dude srsly, bed SHOULD make sounds. [19:22]
mircea_popescu maybe only now have you finaly matured sexually, are fucking correctly ? [19:22]
ben_vulpes why should the bed make sounds? [19:22]
mircea_popescu cause it's getting broken ? [19:23]
ben_vulpes i dunno man i expect my tools to stand up to abuse [19:23]
ben_vulpes girl should squeal, yes [19:23]
ben_vulpes mill chatter? bed complain? hammer crack? [19:23]
bounce artificial creaking device for unbreakable beds. kickstarter, take it away! [19:23]
mircea_popescu totally. [19:24]
bounce actually, wasn't there already an app for that? [19:24]
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jurov mircea_popescu:i see you sent punkman's 10000 s.bbet shares to coinbr? [19:26]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol: dayum. so has redundant domains like mpx been considered? .co .us .biz, etc << the domains aren't the problem. [19:26]
mircea_popescu jurov and sent you a pm about it yes. [19:26]
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mircea_popescu i got "* [jurov] is away (Auto away at Thu Oct 16 00:16:03 2014)" [19:26]
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bounce then again, it's not as bad as that. the socialists build their own old boys club and pass cushy jobs back and forth. well-paid jobs "helping" various types of the needy with plenty of taxpayer money. all the elitism, now with extra pretense. [19:27]
jurov oh now i see ... an complaint from otr plugin that you sent unencrypted msg :) [19:27]
mircea_popescu "I would like to start by saying that in context of the below, my identity is irrelevant. My identity becomes relevant if I break the law, which is something that neither myself nor my employees have done. " herp. "i am resigning. who is 'i' ? don't ask! and take my anon claim at face value as to everything else" [19:28]
mircea_popescu who is this moolah fucktard anyway ? [19:28]
mircea_popescu jurov oddly it said nothing back to me. otr's a fucking mess ;/ [19:28]
mircea_popescu !up frb [19:29]
-assbot- You voiced frb for 30 minutes. [19:29]
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mircea_popescu bounce idiots love pretense above all else. [19:29]
mircea_popescu and they have this tendency to imagine that pretending about pretending is going to solve all their problems. [19:29]
frb uh, thanks for the voice, is it because you know i'm admin. of or is it just random mircea_popescu ? [19:29]
frb because if you have questions i can answer them [19:29]
mircea_popescu frb i generally up new names, see if they're going to say something stupid or not [19:30]
frb oh, hehe. i'm not new, i idle in here for a long time. [19:30]
mircea_popescu i think most people do about the same. [19:30]
mircea_popescu so what's 8chan ? [19:30]
frb a dangerous terrorist organization, apparently [19:30]
frb we've been featured in MSNBC, CNN and CBS in the last week [19:30]
mircea_popescu heh mkay. do you have porn ? [19:30]
frb someone sent em 13BTC yesterday [19:30]
frb of course! [19:30]
frb it's like 4chan but you make your own board. [19:30]
frb [19:30]
mircea_popescu would you mind making a bot for this chan ? [19:31]
mircea_popescu to replace the old .bait function [19:31]
frb what would that entail? [19:31]
RagnarDanneskjol i saw an article on this guy just yesterday - huh [19:31]
mircea_popescu that when i say .bait your bot spits out a link to an image [19:31]
mircea_popescu that includes cunt and no panties. [19:31]
mircea_popescu !s bait [19:31]
assbot 807 results for 'bait' : [19:31]
mircea_popescu << like that. [19:32]
assbot Logged on 04-05-2014 09:08:41; Hasbro: .bait [19:32]
mircea_popescu except pr0nz that don't suck. [19:32]
mircea_popescu frb anyway, what's this news thing i'm missing ? all that google returns are two hits on x-box something or the other. [19:33]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol where ? [19:34]
frb [19:34]
assbot 4chan, wizardchan, 8chan : le guide des forums anonymes les plus populaires du Web [19:34]
assbot Another Woman In Gaming Flees Home Following Death Threats [19:34]
assbot Brianna Wu forced to flee her home after Twitter threats | Daily Mail Online [19:34]
mircea_popescu lmao mkay. [19:34]
RagnarDanneskjol i have no idea - just remember i saw it somewhere [19:34]
mircea_popescu this is serendipitious, ppl kept derping at me to revive dtng [19:34]
frb "Female game developer forced to flee her home after horrific 8chan rape and murder threats in latest sexism scandal plaguing industry [19:34]
frb Read more: [19:34]
assbot Brianna Wu forced to flee her home after Twitter threats | Daily Mail Online [19:34]
frb oops [19:35]
frb "horrific 8chan rape and murder threats" lmao [19:35]
frb they fundamentally misunderstand my site, basically. [19:35]
frb i'm moving to the philippines in 10 days. [19:35]
RagnarDanneskjol so thats why yur trending. cool [19:35]
mircea_popescu it being a chan [19:35]
frb i have a partnership with 2channel, [19:35]
frb biggest japanese BBS. [19:35]
mircea_popescu "chans don't understand how the world works!" [19:35]
mircea_popescu ok, so what questions would i be asking you ? [19:35]
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mircea_popescu said the lazy qntra nonreporter [19:36]
frb i'm not sure mircea_popescu. i have idled in this channel for a long time and never said anything, so i thought it was significant :) [19:36]
frb also we talked before, i am "kopipe" on bitcointalk forums. [19:36]
frb but i don't use them much now. [19:36]
mircea_popescu o you mean with mpoe-pr ? [19:36]
frb oh, yes. [19:36]
mircea_popescu kay. [19:37]
mircea_popescu so what's in the philipines ? [19:37]
frb in fact, since an anonymous donor sent me 13 BTC - i thought it could even be you and you were letting me know. [19:37]
frb sorry for jumping to conclusions. [19:37]
mircea_popescu well if it's anon it's anon eh. [19:37]
thickasthieves imagine of newsmedia found this chan [19:38]
mircea_popescu but they have. [19:38]
thickasthieves and your rape articles [19:38]
thickasthieves i mean in this context [19:38]
frb if you don't want me in here, that's fine. lol [19:38]
mircea_popescu hey, some of my biggest readers are indignant mainstream "jouralist" chicks [19:39]
thickasthieves 8chan retreats to IRC where rape-supportes dwell! [19:39]
thickasthieves frb, i aint saying to leave [19:39]
mircea_popescu ;;isitdown [19:39]
gribble is up [19:39]
thickasthieves idgas about media dramagates [19:39]
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mircea_popescu people gotta get used with the idea that their lives are in danger anyway. [19:40]
frb so, is in the philippines. that is our parent company. [19:40]
thickasthieves this whole gamergate thing has been so disinteresting i have yet to read anything about whatever the hell is going on [19:40]
frb we are the international division of 2ch [19:40]
mircea_popescu their government failed, and this is what happens when your government fails. [19:40]
frb gamergate is not interesting at all thickasthieves, i am just benefiting frmo it by providing a free speech imageboard for them. [19:40]
thickasthieves word [19:40]
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bounce too bad you can't just buy up a country and add some new management [19:41]
frb 2ch is the largest BBS in japan, it receives 5,000 posts per minute at peak period. [19:41]
mircea_popescu bounce o you can't ?! [19:41]
bounce you may prove me wrong [19:41]
mircea_popescu shit i've been wasting my lyf! [19:41]
mircea_popescu frb if you can prove you haveadmin access to i'll rate you [19:42]
mircea_popescu then you can self-voice. [19:42]
frb would an email from suffice? [19:42]
mircea_popescu sure. [19:42]
bounce how much in the way of staff do you have running the thing? [19:43]
mircea_popescu shit this is such a relief, i was seriously considering i'll have to open a chan [19:43]
frb sent to office at polimedia dot us. [19:44]
mircea_popescu ;;rate frb 1 runs [19:46]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user frb has been recorded. [19:46]
mircea_popescu frb now about that bot ? [19:46]
frb lol [19:46]
frb ask me in a month. [19:47]
mircea_popescu aite. [19:47]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile [19:47]
kakobrekla good call, having a dedi bot makes it easy to ignore. [19:48]
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thickasthieves lol @ gif [19:48]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla yup [19:48]
* kakobrekla wonders if he is the only one to see that as noise [19:50]
mircea_popescu do you ? [19:51]
jurov what? .baits? [19:51]
* bounce doesn't think of that as signal, no [19:51]
kakobrekla actually yea i do. [19:52]
mircea_popescu i had no idea. [19:52]
mircea_popescu i see it as an invaluable tool to keep the overton window wide enough so actual stuff of value can occur. [19:52]
mircea_popescu otherwise people get narrow. [19:52]
bounce overton? [19:53]
kakobrekla pussy makes one broader? [19:53]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla yes. which is why men are more pleasant company than boys. [19:53]
bounce there's got to be a "broad" pun in there... somewhere [19:53]
mircea_popescu ;;google overton window [19:53]
gribble Overton window - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Overton Window [Mackinac Center]: ; Articles: Barack Obama Climbs through the Overton Window: [19:53]
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mircea_popescu look fluffypony they got ponyS!!1 [19:54]
assbot /pone/ - My Little Pony [19:54]
mircea_popescu !up devthedev [19:54]
-assbot- You voiced devthedev for 30 minutes. [19:54]
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kakobrekla mircea_popescu what about them gays? [19:54]
fluffypony *clicks* [19:54]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla hm ? [19:54]
devthedev New blog post: [19:54]
mircea_popescu lmao [19:54]
mircea_popescu "/younglove/ Pedophile Support and Discussion" [19:55]
kakobrekla so only pussy makes one broader, not the dick? [19:55]
kakobrekla this cant be true. [19:55]
mircea_popescu ;;google seinfeld kramer "what if it's so true your head is spinning like a top!" [19:56]
gribble Favourite Seinfeld quotes: ; Cosmo Kramer (Character) - Quotes - IMDb: ; Seinfeld (TV Series 1989–1998) - Quotes - IMDb: [19:56]
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jurov yes it does :) [19:56]
thickasthieves Gavin defends [19:57]
assbot Blocksize Economics | The Bitcoin Foundation [19:57]
mircea_popescu "Hi guys Decided to post this here to see if I could find more people interested in this project. I am Cruel-Cherry one of the guys making the game named "Project Cherry" (working title) A game thats about raping little lolis in cruel ways." [19:57]
mircea_popescu o.o i think we have actually found the bottom of the internets. [19:57]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu> kakobrekla yes. which is why men are more pleasant company than boys. < next time you wannat a real fuck, flit through 3 .baits. its all the same, isnt it? [19:58]
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nubbins` <+thickasthieves> this whole gamergate thing has been so disinteresting i have yet to read anything about whatever the hell is going on << i've avoided the whole thing until i stumbled across an article the other day about that sarkeesian woman [19:58]
nubbins` bomb threat asshole says he's going to recreate the montreal massacre [19:58]
nubbins` i hope they find him and cut his dick off with a cheese grater [19:59]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla wait wut [19:59]
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thickasthieves !up frb [20:00]
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kakobrekla as far as i understood .jpg will keep you as wide as the real thing. well maybe not .jpg, but a .gif. [20:00]
kakobrekla thats why we post em, no? [20:00]
mircea_popescu that was a discussion about the discussion. [20:00]
mircea_popescu let's put it this way : if it's okay to post pronz, it's okay to be stupid. [20:00]
nubbins` webm is the new gif [20:00]
mircea_popescu people need to be able to be stupid because noobs are stupid. [20:00]
mircea_popescu more importantly, everyone has an endless capacity for stupidity, and if we're too cool we'll self-censor ourselves into extinction. [20:01]
kakobrekla posting a pic here and there is not same as dedi bot for vex and tsp fap to [20:01]
mircea_popescu but no autopositng is contemplated [20:02]
mircea_popescu you hated the old .bait ? [20:02]
thickasthieves ok i have a question about this block size thing, supposing it stays is, couldnt miners just specialize if size became an issue? As in, big mining ops would filter big fees, small mining ops small fees. Then further extend this to nodes, where a node provider could make a custom wallet that automatically broadcasted the tx to itseld and the blockchain at large, and you pay a fee to them [20:02]
thickasthieves direct;ly to get relayed ... ? [20:02]
thickasthieves long short, is it a problem at all? [20:02]
kakobrekla cant say i liked it. [20:02]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves the hard fork is a problem, mostly because they're trying to introduce a whole slew of 0days into the protocol itself. [20:03]
thickasthieves i'm not even talking about the fork aspect [20:03]
thickasthieves which i'm totallt against in and of itself [20:03]
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mircea_popescu to make it perfectly clear : no team that in any way includes any of the currently proscribed usg agents (gavin, maxwell, hearn etc) can ever make a fork. never. [20:03]
thickasthieves forking to add features is stupid [20:04]
mircea_popescu they could just as well retire, because they can no longer actually contribute. but if they don't want to retire they can hang around as lolcow fodder. [20:04]
mircea_popescu the matter of them actually adding something however is closed. [20:04]
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thickasthieves but i was more asking whether my specific examples work [20:04]
thickasthieves whether miners and nodes could do such things [20:04]
thickasthieves cuz if they can, i just dont get why to change [20:05]
mircea_popescu well no, a block larger than 1mb can not be mined. [20:05]
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thickasthieves not what i meant [20:06]
nubbins` yeah .bait sucked [20:06]
thickasthieves i mean keeping blocks same size [20:06]
nubbins` put it in another chan if you want it [20:06]
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nubbins` regarding forks, why not just make S.BTCD and hire someone who's not a puppet to maintain the codebase? [20:09]
n6 Namworld nanotube Naphex nezZario nick1234abcd Nomos7 NormDePloome nubbins` [20:09]
mircea_popescu nubbins` did you have ozbot on ignore ? [20:09]
bounce isn't that thing being maintained already? [20:09]
thickasthieves [20:09]
thickasthieves [20:10]
nubbins` bounce "maintained" [20:10]
nubbins` mircea_popescu nah [20:10]
bounce o_O haven't paid attention tho [20:10]
nubbins` seems the simplest solution to suspicions of codebase being diddled, no? [20:11]
bounce if it wasn't full of diddles to start with [20:11]
nubbins` hire someone to sit down with 0.5/0.6, merge sensible changes from newer revisions, toss the cruft and backdoors [20:11]
thickasthieves add new ones [20:11]
thickasthieves etc [20:11]
mircea_popescu nubbins` so then what exactly sucked ? [20:11]
nubbins` mircea_popescu my attitude, i guess [20:12]
mircea_popescu yeah, well, the problem being that the "more of the same" filter google uses is actually conterproductive to intelligence [20:12]
mircea_popescu gotta expose people to things they wouldn't seek on their own. it's the very point of rape in the first place. [20:12]
mircea_popescu they might not like it, of course. kinda the point. [20:13]
nubbins` ah get out [20:13]
nubbins` thickasthieves: at leas then you get to choose which backdoors you adopt 8) [20:13]
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bounce backdoors by democratic vote? there's an idea. [20:14]
bounce what happened to that ground-up rewrite though? [20:14]
nubbins` well, i mean, who's to say chetty isn't putting backdoors into eulora and 5 years from now everybody's account gets drained? [20:14]
* bounce hasn't paid attention there [20:14]
nubbins` bounce ground-up rewrite will never happen [20:14]
mircea_popescu << this is probably the most nsfa thing i've seen this month. [20:14]
assbot animated.webm [20:14]
mircea_popescu nubbins` nobody, but then again eulora doesn't claim to be "decentralised yo" [20:15]
nubbins` indeed it doesn't [20:16]
kakobrekla !up GNULinuxGuy [20:16]
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nubbins` anyway, i'm sure all these people running patched 0.5-0.6 would love a package maintainer [20:16]
nubbins` we'll see, i guess [20:16]
bounce "bitstamp announces unverified customer fund giveaway to government" [20:17]
mircea_popescu nubbins` problem is they couldn't trust an outsider. [20:17]
TomServo heh - I wonder what kind of numbers they're talking about in those accounts. [20:18]
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nubbins` mircea_popescu this is the true detriment of not being able to code [20:18]
nubbins` you're utterly dependent on others [20:18]
bounce you'd be that even if you could code, for larger projects. it's just easier to see when you're being led down the garden path. [20:19]
nubbins` granted, sure [20:19]
Adlai coding is the new literacy [20:19]
nubbins` ^ [20:19]
nubbins` "how do i know isn't stealing my keys?" [20:20]
* Adlai had to help a shopper in the supermarket find the right kind of rice a few weeks ago, realized it was the first time in his life he'd met a truly illiterate person [20:20]
nubbins` well, you don't, but if you can read a bit of code, at least you'll feel like less of a rube when you get robbed [20:20]
nubbins` Adlai my old man used to supervise seafarer/mariner exams [20:20]
Adlai it took around half a minute to realize that no, she hadn't forgotten glasses at home, it wasn't a language issue. she just couldn't read. [20:21]
kakobrekla !up Phraust [20:21]
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nubbins` more than once, he allowed men to bring their wives into the exam room so they could read out the questions [20:21]
Phraust :D [20:21]
Phraust danke [20:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6454 @ 0.00073688 = 4.7558 BTC [-] [20:21]
Adlai "very large value transactions are typically secured by real-world contracts, long-established trust relationships, lawyers, and court systems." - chief scientist of the trustless money foundation [20:24]
mircea_popescu derp. [20:24]
mircea_popescu how is this guy related to bitcoin again ? [20:24]
Adlai i think they went to summer camp together [20:24]
mircea_popescu o right. [20:24]
mircea_popescu somebody send him the gpg contracts article, and perhaps read it to him too. [20:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00073436 = 8.2248 BTC [-] {2} [20:27]
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thickasthieves from the presentation apple is giving now [20:31]
BingoBoingo [20:32]
assbot dpaste: 21F7VGP [20:32]
mircea_popescu yee [20:33]
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nubbins` real-world contracts!! [20:33]
nubbins` what the fuck does that mean? [20:33]
thestringpuller qntra still DDOS? [20:33]
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nubbins` guy in the middle has best hat [20:34]
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BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Appears so [20:34]
kakobrekla !up davidlatapie [20:34]
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thestringpuller can we proxy the problem away like with mpex? [20:35]
thestringpuller or is this because of pingback? [20:35]
pete_dushenski << apple descends further into parody [20:35]
assbot Apple's new "chief of secrecy" is Stephen Colbert, who Federighi is calling on the phone right now... [20:35]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` it means the idiocy derps who refuse to submit but like to pretend they're part of bitcoin hide behind. [20:38]
thestringpuller ;;google [20:38]
gribble - digital currency, made easy: ; Moolah | All things digital currency. - ; About - - digital currency, made easy: [20:38]
mircea_popescu tom derpy is like "o, this is *just* irc" [20:38]
mircea_popescu sorta like i'm going "oh, you're just the sec lawyer ? get a gpg we'll talk" [20:39]
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Adlai lolbert [20:41]
assbot Robert Plant Interview - Imgur [20:41]
xinxi i read the log [20:41]
thestringpuller what if the SEC lawyer did get GPG? would you actually talk to them? [20:42]
thestringpuller or just negrate SEC -10 "this isn't their world go home" [20:42]
xinxi i am quite surprised and felt quite sorry that I offended so many people. [20:43]
Adlai possibly stupid question about WoT... doesn't it rely on everybody trusting gribble? what does it offer over the regular PGP trust model? [20:43]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller certainlky. [20:43]
thestringpuller Adlai: you don't have to use gribble i don't think... [20:44]
mircea_popescu Adlai well other than the regular pgp being incredibly broken in so many ways, [20:44]
mircea_popescu it offers comments and rate values. [20:44]
bounce yes, and its operator, but it's a lot more convenient than gepoking the keyservers every time [20:44]
thestringpuller hmmm i never thought of that. can you submit a rating without gribble... [20:45]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller no. [20:45]
thestringpuller in theory there could be another point of entry without sacrificing security because gribble auths via gpg [20:45]
Adlai right, but we're still trusting an IRC bot. what if somebody derps freenode after you've authenticated with gribble? [20:46]
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mircea_popescu !up harry_ [20:48]
-assbot- You voiced harry_ for 30 minutes. [20:48]
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xinxi anyway, I won’t talk about my site here anymore. [20:48]
mircea_popescu Adlai this is in the logs. search! [20:48]
harry_ hi [20:49]
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RagnarDanneskjol xinxi - no offense taken - but NICE JOB workin in one more plug for the site.. you''re a pro [20:50]
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Adlai it'd be nice if had equivalents to grep's -[ABC] [20:51]
thestringpuller Adlai: tell mthreat [20:51]
mircea_popescu you mean negative match ? [20:52]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol he didn't actually plug it did he ? [20:52]
Adlai -A = after context, -B = before context, -C = both [20:53]
mircea_popescu o o [20:53]
mircea_popescu yeah, that's be a nice feature. [20:53]
rithm i usually do -N to get the lines around it myself [20:53]
RagnarDanneskjol no he didnt - I'm just fuckin with him [20:53]
RagnarDanneskjol kind of tho [20:53]
mod6 %ob [20:54]
atcbot 7k@266 99k@255 29k@225 | 28k@190 70k@180 100k@175 [20:54]
mod6 %v [20:54]
atcbot [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 190 Ask: 225 Last Price: 225 30d-Vol: 193k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 197 [20:54]
BingoBoingo %d [20:54]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 326133.84 in 109 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.64 [20:54]
nubbins` then you're fucked [20:55]
mod6 heheh [20:55]
nubbins` oops, i was scrolled up :0 [20:55]
rithm what the fuck is ATC [20:55]
xinxi RagnarDanneskjol - I’ve already applogized for my offense. [20:55]
nubbins` rithm nothing [20:55]
nubbins` <+Adlai> right, but we're still trusting an IRC bot. what if somebody derps freenode after you've authenticated with gribble? << then you're fucked [20:56]
rithm none of those number make any sense to me [20:56]
Adlai rithm: they're Altcoin prices, in whole numbers of satoshi [20:56]
rithm make them die a horrible death and go away [20:56]
thickasthieves rithm [20:56]
rithm NO NO NO NO NO [20:57]
thickasthieves hehe [20:57]
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mircea_popescu okay, kakobrekla and anyone else interested : approx 200k lines grepped from trilema logs for 4xx and 5xx errors, and cleanned up a little. [20:57]
RagnarDanneskjol ooh nice [20:57]
mircea_popescu there may still be some straggler legitimate users caught in a 404 through no fault of their own, but mostly it's bots trying to be all haxxor [20:57]
kakobrekla curious if they match up with mine. [20:58]
mircea_popescu yeah me too [20:58]
mircea_popescu or anyone else's for that matter. [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7730 @ 0.00073881 = 5.711 BTC [+] {3} [20:59]
mircea_popescu (the wp-comment lines are in there legitimately, btw. the way trilema works is that if an ip has a previous comment spamlisted, further connections are rejected outright. so these are all spammers, and can be used as such) [20:59]
mircea_popescu "POST /wp-comments-post.php << stuff like this [20:59]
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pete_dushenski lol new apple a8x chip from ipadair2 has a barometer [21:02]
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jurov resolves to localhost now? [21:03]
jurov i forgot what i have on my machin and got scared for a second [21:04]
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mircea_popescu yeah currently [21:05]
BingoBoingo I'm still all 403 trying to Trilema ream [21:05]
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mircea_popescu pm yer ip ? [21:05]
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mircea_popescu << lol [21:11]
assbot /cuteboys/ - Boypussy [21:11]
Adlai thickasthieves: did you ever get your FOIA request answered? (re: ) [21:11]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2014 15:58:12; ThickAsThieves: "Just a USMS auction price discovery update: I contacted the USDOJ Office of General Counsel regarding my FOIA request submitted back on the 6th of July... and they stated I should see information in early August. They also stated they had a flood of requests for information on that auction." [21:11]
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Adlai nvm, found [21:13]
assbot Logged on 25-09-2014 12:13:49; ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell TheNewDeal any response on that foia yet? /// since youve been singling me out, I wanna clear up that, while I did email them an inquiry long ago, I did not personally submit a FOIA request. I simply know of a couple netizens that did. You can expect news to spread fast once(if) it happens. [21:13]
pete_dushenski [21:15]
assbot CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta suits up in Ebola protective ... - YouTube [21:15]
Adlai five years from now, Dr Sanjay Gupta releases a documentary about how Ebola is actually healthy [21:16]
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thestringpuller << I give up? [21:22]
thestringpuller :( [21:23]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller on ? [21:23]
mircea_popescu "Our staffing costs alone run $45,000 a month" [21:26]
mircea_popescu heh. srsly ? [21:26]
mircea_popescu assbot: Dogecoin Leaders Present Evidence <<< lol doge leaders sounds so funny. [21:28]
pete_dushenski "I give up. Do it yourself: config.tar" << from blogs.b-a [21:28]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: that's what the site says [21:28]
thickasthieves pankkake disowning us [21:28]
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nubbins` ;/ [21:29]
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mircea_popescu a no more blogs ? [21:29]
thestringpuller unless someone else wants to do it i suppose [21:29]
thickasthieves throw em all into qntra, fuckit [21:29]
mircea_popescu s'okay. [21:29]
thestringpuller XD [21:29]
pete_dushenski thickasthieves: hmm it would seem so [21:29]
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pete_dushenski pankkake got turned! [21:30]
ben_vulpes baww that's a shame [21:30]
mike_c ;;seen pankkake [21:30]
gribble pankkake was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 4 hours, 47 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: here is 0.000195. [21:30]
thickasthieves i'm speaking for him, with no good reason, but my guess is he sees the extremism turning to cultism, turning to delusion [21:30]
mircea_popescu isn't that kinda of an extremist approach ? [21:31]
pete_dushenski thickasthieves: then bloggers could earn shares! [21:31]
thickasthieves well sometimes i feel that way [21:31]
thickasthieves but its why i like it here [21:31]
thickasthieves i can be that guy poking around [21:31]
kakobrekla turned? [21:31]
thickasthieves seeing what holds up [21:31]
mircea_popescu well so could he or anyone lol. [21:31]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i dunno, guy got butthurt over some linux discussion [21:31]
mircea_popescu oh, it was systemv specifically. [21:32]
mircea_popescu hasn't been around much since, so who knows. [21:32]
thickasthieves he was mad about altcoin topics too if i recall [21:32]
pete_dushenski kakobrekla: into a pumpkin. past midnight? [21:32]
thickasthieves and pete's blog kinda illustrates my example perfectly [21:32]
thickasthieves particularly the post pankkake commented on [21:32]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves whassat ? [21:32]
thickasthieves so that;s my theory for his leaving! [21:33]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: [21:33]
assbot The Difference Between Weak Hands And Strong Hands | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski [21:33]
thickasthieves well pete does ham it up [21:33]
pete_dushenski thickasthieves: to great effect ;/ [21:33]
thickasthieves hey i read it [21:33]
thickasthieves :) [21:33]
mircea_popescu so a guy agrees, a guy doesn't agree, big deal either way. [21:33]
thickasthieves he's french [21:34]
thickasthieves waddaya want [21:34]
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mircea_popescu !up poulos [21:34]
-assbot- You voiced poulos for 30 minutes. [21:34]
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mircea_popescu i dun recall the last time someone was required to believe something they didn't lol. [21:34]
mircea_popescu what nonsense is that anyway. [21:34]
pete_dushenski [21:34]
assbot Hey /gavinandresen, nice article today. Very convenient that you neglected to mention this smackdown, eh? [21:34]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: you didn't go to public school? [21:35]
mircea_popescu yea, i did. [21:35]
mircea_popescu but in communist romania things worked better, apparently. [21:35]
thickasthieves i just walked into a corner of sheet metal ... blud [21:35]
thickasthieves just my shin though [21:35]
thickasthieves should be ok [21:35]
mircea_popescu anyway, re cultishness thickasthieves : the one datapoint i have so far is that b-a broke the cultish misinterpretation of how to use wot/ratings prevalent prior to its existence. [21:35]
mircea_popescu this has resulted in some bruised wot accounts, danielpbarron being perhaps the best example [21:36]
thickasthieves i dont think it;s something to be defensive about so much as internally sensitive to [21:36]
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mircea_popescu but as far as any sane measure can be had, this is the only open bitcoin space [21:36]
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mircea_popescu i dun really see the value to the entire sensitivity.h include. [21:36]
mircea_popescu it's buggy code and i won't have it in my software. [21:36]
thickasthieves i dont mean it in an emotional sense [21:36]
thickasthieves i mean it's easy to get lost in ideals [21:37]
thickasthieves and hard to ever achieve them [21:37]
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mircea_popescu except there are no ideals [21:37]
mircea_popescu which is what the entire cause vs purpose discussion is all about. [21:37]
thickasthieves in practice, i agree, there arent [21:37]
thickasthieves ideals are just focal points [21:38]
thickasthieves if you move they do too [21:38]
pete_dushenski ideally... [21:39]
thickasthieves its also why i pressed you about the article you wrote [21:39]
thickasthieves would be nice to get a nugget of proof here and there [21:39]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03: so, web developers of #b-a: for what reasons would you use HTTPS? << it's not actually useful. [21:40]
kakobrekla for the purpose of keeping chumps happy. [21:40]
mircea_popescu bounce: it's better than to not use it, <<< this is perhaps the longest endless discussion i don't feel like having. is it better to have loved a whore or to not have gotten the pox at all ?! etc. [21:41]
mircea_popescu ;;seen smickles [21:41]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs [21:41]
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thickasthieves ;;later tell asciilifeform New imac - 27-inch display. 5210 x 2880 pixels. - no word on bits yet [21:42]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:42]
mats_cd03 thats a lot of pixels [21:42]
mircea_popescu didnt stan want the pixels the other way ? [21:42]
mircea_popescu i guess that ain't happening any time soon tho. [21:42]
thickasthieves well he want pixels and bits [21:42]
thickasthieves apple's stuff so far is 6bit with 8bit sim [21:43]
thickasthieves he wants real 8bit [21:43]
thickasthieves which no one makes anymore [21:43]
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* kakobrekla is on 7680*2280 [21:43]
mircea_popescu also 2880x5210 rather than as is [21:43]
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jurov iirc he wants RGB pixels [21:44]
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jurov whereas pentile is RGBY where RG and BY are mapped to two pixels [21:44]
jurov i have pentile display (lenovo yoga 2) so did some research why some patterns suck [21:45]
jurov *er RGBW (white) [21:45]
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jurov obv there are color rendition problems (esp. saturated yellow) but text is crisp, i'm satisfied [21:46]
jurov also, i use it only away from home, i do most work on on desktop [21:48]
* mircea_popescu uses 1280 px displays and doesn't give a shit [21:48]
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thickasthieves mp is also color blind and reads in 72pt type [21:50]
thickasthieves <3 [21:50]
mircea_popescu more like 36 but yeah [21:50]
thickasthieves with the imac you could see all the warts on your porn [21:51]
mircea_popescu i suppose that goes a long way to explain it huh, as long as your fonts are a cm tall 1k or 5k px are all about the same [21:51]
xinxi OK, the issue between RagnarDanneskjol and me was just resolved. [21:51]
mircea_popescu but i don't care about the warts. [21:51]
mircea_popescu xinxi lol what did you do [21:51]
thickasthieves xinxi, wouldnt ragnar be the one to exclaim so? [21:51]
mircea_popescu maybe he's now asleep ? [21:52]
ben_vulpes lol what was going on there? [21:52]
xinxi he has something to do at this moment. [21:52]
xinxi I just talked to him. [21:52]
xinxi we just tried to understand each other. [21:52]
ben_vulpes was he on your case for plugging your site? [21:52]
xinxi he talked about it. [21:53]
ben_vulpes p. sure everyone in here does that pretty regularly for their own projects. [21:53]
* jurov has "startx -- --dpi 166" on the yoga and the text is still 3mm or so. exactly as it should. [21:53]
mats_cd03 yoga ideapad? [21:53]
jurov yes [21:53]
mats_cd03 that thing is so troublesome with linux. [21:53]
TomServo because of optimus? or? [21:54]
jurov i have linux in emulator, use that windows 8 crap only as loader and hw interface [21:54]
mats_cd03 the touchpad regularly dies, so i have to run a script with the sleep daemon to wake it up whenever [21:54]
xinxi now I am relieved and going to sleep. talk to you guys tomorrow. [21:54]
mats_cd03 but the touchscreen works with suse drivers outta the box. funny how that works. [21:54]
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ben_vulpes ;;ident xinxi [21:55]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'xinxi', with hostmask 'xinxi!', is identified as user 'wangxinxi', with GPG key id 331894345B459329, key fingerprint EE5C4780D0955B8E25CF2667331894345B459329, and bitcoin address None [21:55]
ben_vulpes ;;gettrust wangxinxi [21:55]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask xinxi! CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user wangxinxi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Mon Oct 13 16:19:46 2014 [21:55]
mats_cd03 people in here take themselves too seriously [21:56]
ben_vulpes i'm just curious yo [21:56]
mats_cd03 not you. just in general. [21:56]
ben_vulpes b-a: srs bzns [21:56]
jurov and they use to relieve themselves before sleeping. news at 11 [21:56]
ben_vulpes that's why bring .bait back [21:56]
Adlai Among the maxims on Lord Naoshige's wall, there was this one: "Matters of great concern should be treated lightly." Master Ittei commented, "Matters of small concern should be treated seriously." [21:57]
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ben_vulpes pet the sweaty things and don't sweat the petty things? [21:58]
mats_cd03 thats disgusting mate [21:58]
jurov and then matters one should not concern with at all.. you know [21:58]
ben_vulpes like warrant transfer :P [21:59]
mircea_popescu fuck them ? [21:59]
ben_vulpes petting generally leads to fucking [21:59]
thickasthieves i hope you dont have pets [21:59]
ben_vulpes sweaty petting [21:59]
ben_vulpes i pet who i want thickasthieves [22:00]
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ben_vulpes who/what [22:00]
mats_cd03 ;;later tell asciilifeform did this thing ever go anywhere? [22:00]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:00]
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Adlai gribble: you keep using that tense, but i'm not sure it means what you think it does [22:03]
mircea_popescu lol [22:03]
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BingoBoingo !b 3 [22:04]
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diametric vs [22:07]
assbot anonabox : a Tor hardware router by August Germar — Kickstarter [22:07]
assbot New 2014 300Mbps WT3020A Multiprotocol Portable Mini WIFI Router with USB data line Wireless Router wi fi Free Shipping-in Wireless Routers from Electronics on | Alibaba Group [22:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10695 @ 0.00073993 = 7.9136 BTC [+] {2} [22:07]
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kakobrekla ah [22:08]
kakobrekla i see its now 600k out of 7.5k goal [22:09]
diametric theres a shill in the ks comments [22:09]
diametric thats hilarious [22:09]
mircea_popescu no bad idea ever went unrewqarded. [22:09]
kakobrekla mine mostly did. [22:09]
mircea_popescu weren't really all that bad maybe ? [22:10]
kakobrekla color me suprised. [22:10]
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kakobrekla that was brief. [22:11]
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bounce why do I get the feeling that gaming kickstarter is its own business model? [22:12]
kakobrekla imagine doing that and then actually doing something smart with the money. [22:12]
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bounce like what, running? [22:12]
diametric !up ascii_on_tour [22:13]
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kakobrekla running is smart if you need some exercise. [22:13]
ascii_on_tour yoga 2 << that was the box with the evil lcd [22:14]
mircea_popescu bounce cause it is ? [22:14]
ascii_on_tour that i mentioned a few days ago [22:14]
ascii_on_tour 5210 x 2880 << that's one of the mac-with-lcd combo boxes, so extra $1k for comp that i haven't any use for. but i'm told that one can plug in an external cable. [22:15]
thickasthieves thunderbolt only tho [22:16]
ascii_on_tour kickstarter scam << actual scam. quite like if i were to ship a repainted 'raspberry' as cardano [22:16]
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ascii_on_tour and 600k! i could build six planets. [22:16]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker [22:20]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 374.75, Best ask: 375.96, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 374.74, 24 hour volume: 19526.71241981, 24 hour low: 371.84, 24 hour high: 399.0, 24 hour vwap: 384.202633642 [22:20]
kakobrekla hm, would those plants be near earth? [22:23]
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ascii_on_tour and the tor gizmo scam being exposed, will 'wired' et al. make the sc4mz0r give the free publicity back? [22:23]
BingoBoingo !b 1 [22:23]
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kakobrekla i mean, 100k a planet, somewhere between earth and mars... id move. [22:26]
ascii_on_tour 600k even almost suffices for escape velocity. [22:28]
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mats_cd03 i cackled when i saw the 600k figure [22:32]
mats_cd03 ascii_on_tour: have you seen this thing/did it ever go anywhere? [22:33]
ascii_on_tour mats_cd03: afaik no [22:33]
ascii_on_tour mats_cd03: and for reasons discussed earlier [22:34]
ascii_on_tour !s xilinx [22:34]
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ascii_on_tour !s fpga evolve [22:34]
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ascii_on_tour !s xc6216 [22:35]
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ascii_on_tour ^ there. [22:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23240 @ 0.00073976 = 17.192 BTC [-] {2} [22:36]
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TomServo !up ascii_on_tour [22:43]
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ascii_on_tour TomServo: ty [22:43]
xanthyos [22:44]
assbot Whorehouse / Going Down | Ep. 912 | Beavis and Butt-Head | Full Episode Video | MTV [22:44]
mats_cd03 hm. thanks. [22:45]
mats_cd03 you will see a tell later when you identify as alf. [22:46]
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ascii_on_tour ks << [22:46]
kakobrekla [22:46]
assbot Logged on 11-07-2014 19:49:38; asciilifeform: the people who did that kickstart, for instance, are separated from their true motherland - the uranium mines - for so long as the money lasts them. [22:46]
assbot Turbo Encabulator - YouTube [22:46]
kakobrekla kickstart the above ^^ [22:47]
ascii_on_tour ^ ??? [22:47]
ascii_on_tour ?? [22:47]
ascii_on_tour aha [22:47]
BingoBoingo [22:47]
assbot CDC Releases Revised Ebola Management Policy for Healthcare Workers: Just Burn Everything - GomerBlog [22:47]
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kakobrekla its a good vid. [22:48]
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BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Where can I get encabulator? [22:51]
thestringpuller +mircea_popescu ;;seen smickles << He's on Steam sometimes and we have been meaning to play some games. Must feel good to be retired. [22:51]
kakobrekla maybe this guy will tell you [22:51]
assbot Rockwell Turbo Encabulator Version 2 - YouTube [22:51]
BingoBoingo Oh shit! [22:52]
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cazalla frb, are you the dude in the wheelchair? [23:02]
cazalla or maybe that is the 7chan guy [23:03]
BingoBoingo !up r3wt [23:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00073726 = 3.2439 BTC [-] [23:03]
r3wt Bingo Boingo: still authenticating [23:04]
BingoBoingo K [23:04]
BingoBoingo !down r3wt [23:04]
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BingoBoingo SHould be able to self !up then [23:04]
bounce "new computer insensitive catalog no." -- we need more of those [23:04]
BingoBoingo %d [23:05]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 325881.43 in 107 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.65 [23:05]
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ben_vulpes no more penguirker either, eh [23:10]
ThickAsThieves [23:10]
assbot Bitcoin Group Seeks to Launch World's First Bitcoin IPO [23:10]
cazalla mircea_popescu: << this is probably the most nsfa thing i've seen this month. <<< time to zero hdd [23:10]
assbot animated.webm [23:10]
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thestringpuller misleading title [23:11]
thestringpuller "First Bitcoin IPO" [23:11]
ascii_on_tour no more penguirker either << wait what ? [23:11]
thestringpuller /msg ben_vulpes congrats on WinkDex [23:12]
thestringpuller NO [23:12]
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ascii_on_tour BingoBoingo: ty [23:14]
BingoBoingo ascii_on_tour: How goes the tour? [23:14]
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assbot Today i lost my only bitcoin :( : Bitcoin [23:16]
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ascii_on_tour what's the deal with pankkake ? [23:16]
thestringpuller ascii_on_tour he gave up [23:17]
ascii_on_tour gave up what ? [23:17]
ascii_on_tour smoking ? [23:17]
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thestringpuller good question [23:17]
bounce they've started closing accounts? their "final notice" promises 28 days, presumably from the 16th onward [23:18]
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r3wt shibby [23:19]
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ascii_on_tour gave up << reminds me of a convo i once had with brother. me: 'worked all day trying to fix [car], and so bitten by mosquitoes that eventually surrendered.' — he: 'surrendered to mosquitoes?' [23:22]
thestringpuller ascii_on_tour: what would he have said if you said 'surrendered to the car' [23:23]
BingoBoingo Surrendered to mosquitoes and car it seems [23:23]
ascii_on_tour picture unconditional capitulation to - mosquitoes. [23:23]
thestringpuller they are your new overlords [23:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.0007353 = 6.2868 BTC [-] {2} [23:24]
bounce guess we'll have to learn to like mosquito soup then [23:25]
r3wt can i get mine with a side of malaria? [23:25]
bounce that's seasoning [23:25]
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cazalla mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo ty for help [23:27]
assbot dpaste: 259T414: I love you Ebola-chan! [23:27]
mats_cd03 pankkake will be bewildered upon return and receiving 300 messages about various things [23:30]
cazalla oh look, qntra is up [23:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00073505 = 11.0993 BTC [-] {2} [23:31]
mats_cd03 i imagine a fair bit of you have numerous portable screens of all sizes [23:31]
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thestringpuller cazalla: giving me false hope :( [23:31]
mats_cd03 i'm in the market for something to read technical ebooks. sometimes with color. recommendations? [23:31]
thestringpuller "Google Chrome's connection attempt to was rejected. The website may be down, or your network may not be properly configured." [23:31]
thestringpuller ;;isdown [23:32]
gribble Error: "isdown" is not a valid command. [23:32]
thestringpuller ;;isup [23:32]
gribble is up [23:32]
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thestringpuller weird [23:33]
mats_cd03 there r too many options. kobo, kindle, kindle voyage, windows and android assorted tablets... [23:33]
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thestringpuller mats_cd03: kindle doesn't hurt your eyes with the e-paper [23:38]
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cazalla a little clip on light is useful for kindle too [23:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26974 @ 0.00073499 = 19.8256 BTC [-] [23:41]
cazalla just so you can avoid that "can you turn your lamp off, i'm trying to sleep", "i'm fucking reading, roll over" bullshit that goes on [23:41]
kakobrekla [23:43]
kakobrekla hehe [23:43]
BingoBoingo I had one of those devices [23:45]
kakobrekla me too. [23:45]
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assbot BitStamps: Unverified Accounts to be Closed, Balances to Regulators | [23:56]
kakobrekla i told you they were assholes when we klined them from freenode in 2012 or whatever [23:57]
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Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, typo "and inists they" [23:59]
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