Forum logs for 15 Nov 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62220002 = 1.8666 BTC [-] [00:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1070 @ 0.00014 = 0.1498 BTC [+] [00:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.0057881 = 0.1216 BTC [+] [00:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1242 @ 0.00578843 = 7.1892 BTC [+] {2} [00:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.62220001 = 7.4664 BTC [-] {2} [00:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17832 @ 0.00083004 = 14.8013 BTC [+] {2} [00:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2597 @ 0.0008286 = 2.1519 BTC [-] [00:39]
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dub https://onlycoin.com/ [00:42]
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ThickAsThieves does it take bitcoins? [00:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18759 @ 0.0001396 = 2.6188 BTC [+] {3} [00:45]
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dub no [00:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 65105 @ 0.00014 = 9.1147 BTC [+] [00:46]
mike_c "starts shipping summer 2014". riight. [00:46]
dub well [00:46]
pankkake you just need to swipe your debit cards and it can act like it? [00:46]
pankkake I knew those cards weren't secure, but really? [00:46]
dub well, all of my bank cards are chipped/NFC now [00:47]
Namworld Some people can clone your cards just by passing a device over your pocket [00:47]
dub just I think all the requesite data is still in teh mag stripe [00:47]
dub s/just/but [00:47]
mike_c No, you add your cards through their mobile app [00:47]
dub and attached card skimmer [00:48]
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Namworld yes, all data is still on the mag stripe even with the darn chip as far as I know. [00:48]
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Namworld So buy that coin thing, receive 1 card skimmer? [00:48]
Namworld That's totally not going to cause any issues at all. [00:48]
dub but yes, your pin is an has always been the only 'security' applied [00:48]
dub hence card skimming folks need a camera or fake keypad inline with teh skimmer [00:49]
dub krebs did a peice on this recently quite clever some of the shit these guys come up with [00:50]
Namworld I've seen that. Skimmers that can be inserted in ATM slot, with small cam looking at keypad [00:50]
dub http://krebsonsecurity.com/all-about-skimmers/ [00:50]
ozbot All About Skimmers — Krebs on Security [00:50]
Namworld Well not the krebs thing but similar I guess. [00:50]
dub somw of them are a skin that fits over teh entire atm [00:50]
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Namworld lol [00:50]
Namworld wow [00:50]
dub interfacing with it to actually draw your cash out too [00:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.26099997 = 1.305 BTC [+] {2} [00:51]
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pankkake I always try very hard to remove the card slot to check for skimmers. never encountered one yet :( [00:52]
dub my approach is to earn too much to notice incedental theft [00:53]
pankkake :D [00:54]
dub the banks insurance takes care of major shit [00:54]
dub was looking at a statement yesterday and found some shithole corner store and charged $105 for a $5 item [00:55]
dub cannot find a given fuck to pursue it [00:56]
mike_c 0.25 btc! [00:57]
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towski is anyone investing in CBTC [01:02]
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towski or is the bitcoin casino market too saturated [01:02]
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Namworld Apparently there is people investing [01:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00083012 = 7.139 BTC [+] {2} [01:24]
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pankkake http://i.imgur.com/gV33x8U.png [01:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.185 BTC [+] [01:40]
towski that is reassuring [01:43]
asciilifeform the magstripe widget will be hacked (in the positive sense) and someone will build the illicit but intensely necessary gadget i described a year ago. [01:46]
firedrops describe moar [01:47]
asciilifeform (where people load up cards and sell the complete stripe data on a 'silk road' of sorts) [01:47]
firedrops ah, tks [01:47]
asciilifeform then write it to a card [01:47]
firedrops it would make carders lives much easier [01:47]
firedrops wipe it if the cops come [01:47]
asciilifeform solves the btc to fiat issue, at least until the cops drag you away [01:47]
asciilifeform (when you end up using a stolen card #) [01:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00014 = 0.21 BTC [+] [01:48]
asciilifeform the lives of 'carders' are already quite easy. they buy blank cards (sold by the kilo on ebay, quite openly) and magstripe writer ($50 or so.) [01:48]
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asciilifeform the likely outcome is, this will be the nudge that pushes the americans (and any other holdovers) into some sort of 'smart card' affair [01:49]
asciilifeform (of course passive rfid is even easier to clone. no need to take a suspicious-looking widget out of your wallet, either.) [01:50]
firedrops thieves errywhere [01:51]
pankkake I already have a rfid debit card. no choice given [01:51]
firedrops you could change banks [01:51]
firedrops or smash it? [01:53]
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pankkake I'd like to smash my bank, yes [01:54]
firedrops lol, ditto [01:54]
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nubbins` lel, acquaintance posts house-for-sale ad on facebook [02:19]
nubbins` me: "hey, i know that house, they found a golf bag full of dirty needles when they raided it" [02:19]
nubbins` "it's in the hood" [02:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.1151055 BTC [-] [02:19]
nubbins` acquaintance deletes post, re-posts ad with "my friend is selling her house" [02:19]
TomServo haha [02:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00014 = 1.4 BTC [+] [02:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.1151051 BTC [-] [02:24]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00014 = 0.126 BTC [+] [02:32]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 189 @ 0.00563422 = 1.0649 BTC [-] {4} [02:36]
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thestringpuller ;;market buy 50000 [02:39]
gribble This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 16457.932 bitcoins, for a total of 705343476.0952 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds [02:39]
thestringpuller ;;market sell 50000 [02:39]
gribble A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 14052175.5822 USD and would take the last price down to 196.3171 USD, resulting in an average price of 281.0435 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 19.2971 seconds [02:39]
thestringpuller ;;calc .03 * 500 [02:41]
gribble 15 [02:41]
pankkake .d [02:42]
ozbot 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 481 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.6820% in 2d 19h 30m 29s [02:42]
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davout ;;market sell 1000 [03:04]
gribble A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 419251.4911 USD and would take the last price down to 413.2111 USD, resulting in an average price of 419.2515 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0002 seconds [03:04]
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Kleeck_ Hey guys, I'm coming up with a new tool called KleeckCoin that will color your coin all shades of Kleeck when they pass through one of my wallets. Some people will value Kleeck coins more because I'm awesome. Some people will think they're worth less. [03:12]
Kleeck_ Am I a genius yet?! [03:12]
thestringpuller does it suck my cock? [03:17]
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thestringpuller MJ [03:29]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.00014 = 0.112 BTC [+] [03:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.0010313 = 2.0626 BTC [-] {17} [04:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform poor germany. all its gold stolen yet again. [04:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.001026 = 0.513 BTC [-] {2} [04:07]
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mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76frHHpoNFs [04:15]
ozbot Milton Friedman - Socialism vs. Capitalism - YouTube [04:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00102513 = 0.5126 BTC [-] {6} [04:20]
mike_c not much of an achievement to pwn donahue, but still fun to watch :) [04:22]
mircea_popescu the thing is, much in the style of marauding retards, they will gleefully ignore it and continue. [04:23]
mircea_popescu "mommy, can i have cake ?" "no" "mommy, can i have cake ?" "no." "mommy, can i have cake ?" "no you obese slob with the spine of an amoeba, stfu" "mommy, can i have cake ?" [04:23]
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mircea_popescu in other news, http://24.media.tumblr.com/10ee5a2c41e64680300e30d0aaaa7ef2/tumblr_mfk8d8hPhI1r5q1hbo1_500.gif [04:26]
mike_c ah, but eventually you can elect a mommy that does give you cake. [04:26]
mike_c and then you end up with.. [04:27]
mike_c http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2013/05/21/french-tax-soars-over-100/ [04:27]
ozbot French Tax Soars Over 100% - Forbes [04:27]
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mircea_popescu lol pankkake how;s that working out for you [04:28]
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mircea_popescu so basically france is folding up as a going concern. [04:36]
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benkay far right looks like fun [04:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.199999 BTC [+] [04:40]
mircea_popescu and cookies. [04:40]
benkay i'll raisin d'etre her cookie [04:45]
mircea_popescu by the way : [04:47]
mircea_popescu "The Central Intelligence Agency is secretly collecting bulk records of international money transfers handled by companies like Western Union " [04:47]
benkay i figured they just recorded everything on WU systems. [04:48]
mircea_popescu http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/15/us/cia-collecting-data-on-international-money-transfers-officials-say.html [04:48]
benkay hey so how are the plans for cardano-style wallet hardware coming along? [04:51]
benkay tArGetBiTcoInAdDrEsSs123454|1.99999999 into specific dir [04:52]
benkay mount, unmount [04:52]
benkay [04:52]
benkay derp: unmount, remount [04:53]
benkay :( [04:53]
nubbins` derp [04:53]
mircea_popescu wallets need the blockchain [04:55]
benkay not an insurmountable thing [04:55]
mircea_popescu indeed. [04:56]
nubbins` neither is putting something into orbit [04:56]
mircea_popescu whoa look at cisco figures [04:56]
mircea_popescu they got creamed. [04:56]
mircea_popescu since the backdoor was reported it's been what, a month ? current quarter dropped 10%, that means 30% since the news. [04:57]
mircea_popescu in russia it was 30% so they lost 90% of marketshare there. [04:57]
mircea_popescu 3/4 in brazil [04:57]
mircea_popescu cisco is pretty much fucking bankrupt now. [04:57]
nubbins` good riddance [04:58]
KRS1 damn..they used to be a good company [04:58]
nubbins` a dollar used to be an ounce of silver ;) [04:58]
mircea_popescu they did use to be a good company. [04:59]
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KRS1 wtf happened? Poorly managed to death or wtf? [05:04]
KRS1 I haven't been watching. [05:04]
KRS1 maybe they rested on their laurels? [05:04]
mircea_popescu KRS1 it came to light they put a nsa backdoor in one product line [05:05]
KRS1 and that killed a company like cisco..damn..thats some drama. [05:05]
benkay your business is making hardware in networks [05:07]
benkay it comes to light that using your hardware generally compromises networks on which it's deployed [05:08]
benkay "o hai we build nuke rods" [05:08]
benkay "they go supercritical 2 years after purchase" [05:09]
benkay "u wants?" [05:09]
KRS1 Nay..but damn..they were bigger than the beatles. [05:09]
KRS1 harsh competition..a number of other forces catch up..ya i guess i can see it. [05:10]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/two-business-ideas-for-missing-arms/ [05:10]
ozbot Two business ideas for missing arms pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:10]
mircea_popescu possibly one of my better articles. [05:10]
KRS1 Hmm. [05:11]
Namworld cisco > Beatles, Beatles > Jesus, Jesus > cisco [05:11]
Namworld We have a new rock paper scissor variant. Thanks KRS1. [05:11]
KRS1 HAH [05:11]
KRS1 Its been a number of years since I was a network engineer..who's got the juice now? [05:12]
nubbins` that's a lot of lead-up for a punch line, but i lel'd [05:13]
mircea_popescu i tend to work the girls up for a long time before they may cum. [05:13]
nubbins` well, i keep reading, don't i? [05:14]
mircea_popescu so you do. [05:14]
Namworld OP : Coming up with business ideas for the handicapped. [05:16]
Namworld MP : That IS what I do. I’m involved in Bitcoin you know? [05:16]
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nubbins` don't spoil it [05:16]
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TomServo KRS1: Let's not get carried away. They lost a little over 10%. They still make good (great?) hardware. [05:17]
nubbins` tsa-approved luggage locks are "great" too [05:18]
KRS1 I'm gonna read up about it thanks TomServo [05:18]
KRS1 I think their hardware was tops, rivaled motorola even. [05:18]
KRS1 Sorry not was-is..its just been a while since I've worked with their products. [05:22]
mircea_popescu TomServo 10% on the quarter. [05:30]
mircea_popescu if you sell 10 dollar's worth of hamburgers a day, and then one day it comes out that your hamburgers have e coli in them, and then the next day your week ends and you only made 60 dollars [05:30]
mircea_popescu it means your sales just went -100% [05:30]
mircea_popescu ok so this happens to be the fucking tits. obama just gave the 1 year obamacare delay that the house wanted a month ago. except by now it's too fucking late, and as a result of his inept dickery 5mn unfortunate fucks are left without coverage as they were already cancelled. [05:33]
mircea_popescu this article, 3 days ago : http://trilema.com/2013/obama-getting-crushed-in-the-marketplace/ [05:33]
mircea_popescu except 100% moreso now. [05:33]
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benkay http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/technicalillusions/castar-the-most-versatile-ar-and-vr-system [12:57]
ozbot castAR: the most versatile AR & VR system by Technical Illusions — Kickstarter [12:57]
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gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 447.01001, Best ask: 448.96394, Bid-ask spread: 1.95393, Last trade: 446.30004, 24 hour volume: 20936.08171263, 24 hour low: 415.0, 24 hour high: 449.79997, 24 hour vwap: 434.81827 [13:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.19789999 = 0.7916 BTC [+] {4} [13:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.00104963 = 0.1574 BTC [-] [13:41]
smidge ;;ticker [13:43]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 448.01, Best ask: 448.01001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 450.0, 24 hour volume: 20630.12631041, 24 hour low: 415.0, 24 hour high: 450.0, 24 hour vwap: 435.01918 [13:43]
benkay let me know when we hit gold parity [13:45]
benkay ;;ticker --currency xau [13:45]
gribble MtGox BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.359032, Best ask: 0.359989592, Bid-ask spread: 0.00096, Last trade: 0.358408, 24 hour volume: 20649.44224450, 24 hour low: 0.332, 24 hour high: 0.36, 24 hour vwap: 0.348030792 [13:45]
benkay eh. a few months left i warrant. [13:46]
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smidge i think the questions is, what is going to reach 1k usd first, btc or gold? [14:00]
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benkay is coinbr the state of the art in mpex charting? [14:13]
pankkake http://coinflow.co/ has MPEx [14:16]
pankkake I only look at assbot, charts are in my head [14:16]
benkay do note last recorded trade on that site [14:16]
pankkake indeed [14:17]
pankkake wasn't the guy behind it on this channel? [14:17]
benkay last tweet was in august [14:18]
benkay ;;seen coinflow [14:18]
gribble coinflow was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 20 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: NameError: global name 'json' is not defined (file "/app/Coinflow/exchanges/models.py", line 66, in send_to_redis) [14:18]
pankkake hmm… the best I can find for trades sources is http://mpex.co/mpex-rss.php [14:21]
pankkake no historical data [14:21]
benkay socket has historical data [14:21]
pankkake http://live.coinbr.com/trades1m.json?mpsic=S.MPOE that's better [14:23]
pankkake socket isn't free, right? [14:23]
benkay correct [14:26]
mircea_popescu i can;t remember who did coinfglow [14:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00589998 = 0.3422 BTC [+] {5} [14:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62220003 = 1.8666 BTC [-] [14:45]
pigeons heh i saw that coinflow referenced here so i took a look, milk came out my nose when i saw reddit and bitcointalk listed under "research" [14:47]
mircea_popescu coulda been worse [14:48]
mircea_popescu coulda been in pdf. [14:48]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.56061000 BTC to 1`121`220 shares, 50 satoshi per share [15:00]
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firedrops https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334391.0 [15:10]
ozbot Free BTC Faucet - selling adspace [15:10]
firedrops lulz [15:10]
firedrops TF taking down faucets... [15:11]
pigeons you'd think he'd be busy with other things [15:12]
pankkake or remove the "security" in his sig [15:12]
pigeons or the site itself [15:13]
pigeons or the other site [15:13]
pankkake is coinlenders defaulting? [15:13]
pigeons oh i dont follow too closely [15:14]
mircea_popescu not unless you're calling debt. [15:14]
pigeons heh [15:15]
firedrops guy is in over his head... [15:17]
pigeons he says he's a kid too [15:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0059 = 0.2124 BTC [+] {2} [15:29]
firedrops he's not more than 19 [15:33]
BingoBoingo Funny how a few months ago he advertised himself as a decade older... [15:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 199 @ 0.00104963 = 0.2089 BTC [-] [15:43]
mircea_popescu firedrops how do you know that ? [15:44]
pankkake http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3886606.htm [15:45]
pankkake "you don't sound very old" "I'm over 18 but not much over" [15:46]
firedrops ^ [15:47]
firedrops he said that in here or on a post? I can't recall, but that is my 'source'. [15:48]
firedrops nobody says they're 'not much over 18' if their 21, do they? [15:49]
firedrops they're* [15:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9040 @ 0.000828 = 7.4851 BTC [-] [15:55]
ThickAsThieves that sure is an odd interview [15:55]
pigeons no, when you're 18 you somehow thin 21 is way older[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D [15:55]
mircea_popescu it probably all revolves around the twin and contrary requirements, on one hand of being taken seriously, on the other on avoiding legal responsibility. [15:58]
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gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 450.5, Best ask: 453.9, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 450.5, 24 hour volume: 20487.45403144, 24 hour low: 415.0, 24 hour high: 458.0, 24 hour vwap: 436.52028 [16:00]
Perlboy mircea_popescu, actually, in australia. [16:05]
Perlboy 18 is it. [16:05]
Perlboy you are legally responsible for everything. [16:05]
pigeons but when i took your money i wasnt 18 yet ;) [16:06]
mircea_popescu i imagine most jurisdictions more or less copy the romanian 14/16/18 system [16:06]
Perlboy huh? [16:07]
mircea_popescu (under 14 irresponsible, under 16 presumed irresponsible unless proven contrary, over 16 presumed responsible unless proven contrary, over 18 responsible period) [16:07]
Perlboy mircea_popescu, nope. [16:08]
mircea_popescu aha ? [16:08]
Perlboy in aus, the only thing you'll get away with @ 16 [16:08]
Perlboy is underage sex. [16:08]
Perlboy oops [16:09]
Perlboy only thing you WON'T get away with [16:09]
Perlboy 14 doesn't mean anything [16:09]
Perlboy 16 is the same as 14 [16:09]
mircea_popescu um [16:09]
Perlboy except if you're female and you have sex with someone [16:09]
Perlboy then that someone is put for statutory rape. [16:09]
Perlboy everything else, 18 is adult [16:09]
Perlboy anything under, you're a minor. [16:09]
Perlboy final. [16:09]
mircea_popescu so 16 yos can steal an infinite supply of games from game stores ? [16:10]
Perlboy Yeah pretty much. [16:10]
Perlboy might eventually end up in juve [16:10]
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Perlboy as would a 14 [16:10]
Perlboy or a 13 or a 12 y/o [16:10]
pigeons they don't even have "juvenile detention" in australia? [16:11]
Perlboy yes.. they do.. [16:11]
Perlboy anyone over 12 can apply. :) [16:11]
mircea_popescu so basically you're just going by what you understood of what they say on tv ? [16:11]
pigeons oh i see you said that [16:11]
Perlboy mircea_popescu, huh? [16:11]
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Perlboy the only thing that savings a 12 y/o vs. a 14 y/o vs. a 16 y/o is the higher probability of it being a first offense. [16:12]
Perlboy even >18, australian judicial system is pretty heavily weighted for most crimes to be really nice on first offense. [16:13]
mircea_popescu well... but you're not a lawyer, paralegal, judge, anything of the sort, are you ? [16:13]
Perlboy mircea_popescu, no but as a kid i went through a variety of legal related things. [16:13]
mircea_popescu aha [16:14]
Perlboy and i can tell you, right up to 17.99999 [16:14]
Perlboy you can get away with a shitload. [16:14]
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mircea_popescu musta been the unhappiest birthday in your life. [16:14]
Perlboy and @ 18, expunged, no record anywhere, nothing on employment history. [16:14]
pigeons how old was noagendamarket when he killed that guy? [16:14]
nubbins` hi [16:14]
Perlboy mircea_popescu, yeah, but i could drown my sorrows with rum.. legally... :) [16:14]
nubbins` canada has a similar 14/16/18 thing [16:16]
nubbins` not sure of the exact years [16:16]
nubbins` but those under 18 are occasionally tried as adults [16:16]
Perlboy mircea_popescu, most recent example, a 19 y/o king hit a minor [16:16]
Perlboy minor fell on the pavement and died. [16:16]
Perlboy 19 y/o got 4 yrs and parole in like 18 months. [16:17]
Perlboy 'cause it was an accident' [16:17]
pigeons you have kings there? [16:18]
Perlboy 'king hit' :) [16:18]
pigeons oh [16:18]
nubbins` the son of a former premier here was driving drunk doing stunts in a parking garage some years ago, killed his friend, and was granted full parole after 1 year [16:18]
Perlboy see it's funny [16:18]
pigeons well he was sorry i'm sure [16:18]
Perlboy in aus, you get caught drink or drug driving [16:18]
Perlboy you're in a world of hurt. [16:18]
Perlboy first time, you lose your license for 3 months [16:19]
Perlboy second time you lose it for 12 and have to do community service [16:19]
Perlboy third time you're almost guaranteed jail time. [16:19]
nubbins` you don't need a license to drive, though [16:19]
Perlboy nubbins`, get caught unlicensed regardless of your intoxication [16:20]
Perlboy you're in lock up and facing a magistrate. [16:20]
nubbins` well, nod [16:20]
nubbins` but the car will still start without one [16:20]
nubbins` "get caught" is the key [16:20]
Perlboy lols, true dat [16:20]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/unlicensed-uninsured-driver-racks-up-45k-in-fines-1.2350214 [16:21]
ozbot Unlicensed, uninsured driver racks up $45K in fines - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News [16:21]
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nubbins` ^ that's a 22yo [16:21]
Perlboy kill someone while unlicensed or drunk. [16:21]
Perlboy manslaughter [16:21]
Perlboy minimum 3 - 5 yrs [16:21]
Perlboy australian legal system is a bit warped. [16:21]
Perlboy get caught with <6 ounces of weed. [16:21]
Perlboy goto 'drug diversion' for 1 hour, no permanent entry on your record is taken. [16:22]
nubbins` my impression of australia is that the politics and government are completely fucked [16:22]
Perlboy nubbins`, most australians hate our politicians. [16:22]
Perlboy kind of always have [16:22]
Perlboy but more so now. [16:22]
Perlboy 'government' wise [16:23]
Perlboy i'd say has the whole social welfare thing covered pretty well [16:23]
Perlboy almost too well if you're a high income earner <-- me. [16:24]
Perlboy but, free health care, free ambo's etc. [16:24]
Perlboy there's pluses. [16:24]
Perlboy just costs 40%+ in tax. [16:24]
nubbins` free ambulances! [16:24]
nubbins` great [16:24]
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Perlboy compulsary superannuation (what americans would call pensions/401K) [16:25]
Perlboy of 9% of income [16:25]
Perlboy mircea_popescu, here's another one, in australia, anyone over 13 y/o can register for an ABN and start a business. [16:26]
nubbins` well, government gives out enough and they start feeling like they can tell people what to do [16:26]
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Perlboy but if they rack up debts it's their parents who have to pay the bill not them. :) [16:26]
nubbins` imagine extending credit to a 13yo [16:27]
Perlboy actually, i'm more thinking if they go into business [16:27]
Perlboy take payment up front [16:28]
mircea_popescu online noone knows you're a dog. [16:28]
Perlboy then spend it on money. [16:28]
Perlboy oops spend it on lollies. [16:28]
Perlboy their parents are responsible to the creditors [16:28]
Perlboy and ironically, the tax man too.. [16:28]
nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qnqn1/a_pledge_i_invite_you_to_help_us_stop_the_threats/ [16:29]
nubbins` lelelelelelelelel, "The cabal of taint-lickers" [16:30]
nubbins` oh m [16:30]
nubbins` *my [16:30]
mircea_popescu lol [16:30]
pankkake I suspect this throwaway-o is quite young [16:31]
nubbins` nod [16:31]
pankkake not a bad person but… [16:31]
nubbins` lots of "I will" [16:32]
mircea_popescu kinda trying to inject himself into relevancy. [16:32]
nubbins` ^ [16:32]
nubbins` I will save you all! [16:32]
mircea_popescu who cares what exactly he does or doesn't do ? [16:32]
mircea_popescu there's other forces keeping the mike hearn idiocy at bay. [16:32]
nubbins` "i will teach myself to code and save us" [16:32]
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pankkake I think he's genuinly concerned but clueless :) [16:32]
pankkake I've seen it mostly on other subreddits [16:32]
nubbins` well, this is i guess one step further than sharing a link about it on facebook [16:33]
nubbins` i'll give him that [16:33]
pankkake s/seen it/seen him/ [16:33]
nubbins` ah, he is a wizard? [16:34]
pankkake wizard? [16:34]
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