Forum logs for 15 Jan 2016

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform << holy fuck what a snorefest [00:00]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 01:08:41; BingoBoingo: Looks like I missed [00:00]
asciilifeform now if only the other vermin heard hearn's 'surrender' and followed him into the sea [00:01]
asciilifeform (do we need a magical flute to make this work ?) [00:01]
BingoBoingo Need magical skin flute [00:01]
asciilifeform << ~to the merchant.~ (and yes, priced in.) but h is speaking to konsooomers, who 'if i don't see it, it doesn't exist and doesn't possibly affect me' [00:02]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 01:14:18; mircea_popescu: for one thing, i have yet to see a tx that cost 0.1 btc fixed fee, which is what wires cost. for the other, credit cards are UNIVERSALY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WIRES. [00:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00049809 = 3.4119 BTC [-] {2} [00:16]
adlai magic flutes playing funeral marches rival buggywhips as chicken repellent [00:17]
asciilifeform << mega-l0l from BingoBoingo's link [00:18]
assbot Sexism in video games: the solution nobody is talking about. ... ( ) [00:18]
adlai asciilifeform: since when are you reimplementing keyring-aware pgp? [00:19]
asciilifeform since never [00:19]
adlai aiui cardano only needs to know of a single key [00:19]
asciilifeform aha [00:20]
asciilifeform adlai: i think phf was asking about 'p' [00:20]
adlai aha [00:20]
asciilifeform and keyrings are retarded, and will not appear in any form [00:20]
* adlai is reminded of a snide remark made behind the back of an aging warrant officer: "your measure of success in life is inversely proportional to the weight and noise of your keyring" [00:21]
asciilifeform i suppose height of my career was as a penniless student: 1 key [00:22]
asciilifeform (rather than today, 12) [00:22]
asciilifeform << lulzy re: crapple [00:23]
assbot Confirmed: I'm banned from Apple Stores. ... ( ) [00:23]
* adlai somehow doesn't imagine asciilifeform walking around with 12 cardanos looped into his belt [00:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00049809 = 2.7395 BTC [-] {2} [00:27]
adlai actual quote from meatwot-pope: "if somebody executes a death warrant against somebody trying to improve bitcoin, i'll fund and execute one against them myself" (don't judge him, he's prone to angry outbursts) [00:37]
BingoBoingo adlai: You might need to luke-jr against that pope [00:38]
* adlai always kept spare earplugs hidden in his 'buggywhip' [00:40]
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BingoBoingo Anyways adlai, my impression that that belt is not where one wears cardano [00:45]
adlai this is why people who wish for success in life don't go into warrant officer carreers, or even avoid .mil altogether [00:47]
adlai !up AdrianG [00:47]
* assbot gives voice to AdrianG [00:47]
AdrianG thx [00:48]
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AdrianG how do i obtain voice on join? [00:50]
danielpbarron !gettrust assbot AdrianG [00:50]
assbot AdrianG is not registered in WoT. [00:50]
AdrianG ? [00:51]
BingoBoingo !help [00:53]
assbot [00:53]
BingoBoingo ^ AdrianG [00:53]
danielpbarron [00:53]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( ) [00:53]
adlai in other news, [00:54]
assbot ... ( ) [00:54]
adlai << incf! [00:57]
assbot Logged on 13-01-2016 17:22:06; ascii_butugychag: << unrelated, but very nifty. [00:57]
asciilifeform << win [00:57]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 03:53:09; adlai: in other news, [00:57]
adlai more as a 'lisp for its target audience' than anything else, tbh [00:57]
asciilifeform adlai: it is not a general-purpose lisp at all [00:58]
asciilifeform (implemented on a cl, yes, but is really a specialist tool) [00:58]
adlai this is an excellent infection vector, like how my floss-hating friend now uses gimp [00:58]
adlai (and blender, and linux... he's not yet sold on bitcoin, suffering from a terminal case of fiat-startuptardation) [01:00]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [01:01]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The black hole treatment may have moved on to... me. Several times today restarted home node after finding myself stuck 3 to 14 blocks behind. Just recovered from a 4 hour lag. [01:02]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: proper blackhole, with the characteristic logz, or plain old lag ? [01:02]
AdrianG !gettrust assbot AdrianG [01:03]
assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user AdrianG: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | | [01:03]
BingoBoingo plain lag it seems so far. Wasn't anticipating so hadn't set up anything looking for it yet. What should I be looking for? [01:03]
BingoBoingo AdrianG: Mebbe introduce yourself? [01:03]
AdrianG ive been reading about this place. [01:04]
BingoBoingo Cool [01:05]
BingoBoingo Just helps if you let people know who your are. For example: I'm BingoBoingo and I'm an alcoholic. [01:05]
AdrianG do you irc drunk too? [01:06]
BingoBoingo Not anymore. Sober a bit less than 3 months nao. [01:06]
AdrianG im mainly interested in crypto tech, all these bitcoins/etc. [01:07]
BingoBoingo I could not do it alone. I had to turn my will and life over to my higher power, Brodin the Allspotter. [01:08]
AdrianG just wanted to idle mainly and see what ppl are talking about, i dont chat that much these days [01:08]
AdrianG lol [01:08]
BingoBoingo Ah [01:08]
* adlai answers AdrianG from pm: self-voicing is for people two steps removed from assbot so no, I can not help you in this regard [01:08]
AdrianG things got more interesting recently with all these blocksizes [01:08]
BingoBoingo AdrianG: It's just hard to get that first rating unless you give people something to judge you by whether it's throwing out ideas in channel here or linking some previous stuff to read. [01:09]
adlai or writing articles for qntra, which is always in need of biased yet accurate coverage of technical news [01:10]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: [01:11]
assbot “They don’t print paper catalogues anymore, everything’s on their website.” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [01:11]
AdrianG adlai: you write for qntra? [01:11]
adlai [01:11]
assbot Adlai | Qntra ... ( ) [01:11]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Of course you are [01:12]
pete_dushenski of course ? [01:13]
pete_dushenski i play white collar sports goddamit [01:14]
pete_dushenski i wasn't raised in a country barn yknow [01:14]
pete_dushenski mod6: you around ? [01:15]
BingoBoingo I wasn't raised in a barn either, but I can still smell barn when the wind comes from the wrong direction [01:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00049566 = 3.4696 BTC [-] {2} [01:15]
BingoBoingo Or for most of the month after county fair week. [01:16]
* assbot removes voice from AdrianG [01:18]
BingoBoingo !up AdrianG [01:18]
* assbot gives voice to AdrianG [01:18]
AdrianG [01:19]
assbot Cryptsy Blog ... ( ) [01:19]
AdrianG irc trojan in the wallet code, heh. [01:20]
mod6 pete_dushenski: yup, how goes it? [01:20]
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pete_dushenski blame irc for all the world's problems !! [01:21]
danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.AdrianG.1:50fcf710cef58ed3dbf0da8ef386bbe1897c392c11e2731920a14d8803173bc4 [01:23]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for AdrianG with note: Seen him in other channels. [01:23]
AdrianG thx [01:28]
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adlai beautiful watching children reinvent the WoT... tearfully reminds one of the early days of [01:35]
adlai [01:35]
assbot BitcoinX Membership | BitcoinX ... ( ) [01:35]
AdrianG adlai: have you seen keybase? [01:36]
adlai have you seen /r/btc_superclassico? [01:37]
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adlai if you're serving clients javascript pgp implementations, you may have a better career happiness brokering fiat options by telephone [01:38]
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adlai legal in israel, pays in "economic numbers" relative to the salesmen's previous jobs (hocking 'dead sea salt' in your local consumeristemple), rapidly replacing manufacture of arms both small and precise as the nation's primary income stream [01:39]
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pete_dushenski [01:43]
assbot Two Visions | Bernie Sanders - YouTube ... ( ) [01:43]
adlai seeing as AdrianG did not !register in-channel, we now notice that post-gribble asswot has no way of publicly conjuring public-keyring contents [01:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00049793 = 2.5892 BTC [-] {3} [01:45]
ben_vulpes since sks is on the chopping block next, i imagine !register will eventually eat plaintext pubkeys. [01:46]
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* adlai is looking for !pubkey that poops them back out [01:47]
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ben_vulpes mhm [01:47]
adlai if nothing else, just for verification that what you sent in !register didn't get diddled (assuming assbot itself doesn't use mpex security standard) [01:48]
* adlai wonders where on the chopping block lie replay attack prevention [01:49]
* assbot removes voice from AdrianG [01:49]
ben_vulpes << fixed, ty [01:54]
assbot Logged on 14-01-2016 14:05:57; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes hey you gotta fix [01:54]
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* adlai can't find the trollbox input field? [02:02]
ben_vulpes keep looking [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3044 @ 0.00049566 = 1.5088 BTC [-] {2} [02:03]
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adlai ;;later tell dub re: comment in, you omit the reason why this is an excellent s-pass filter: technical barriers to entry leave low-content photons behind. cf [02:06]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:06]
assbot ... ( ) [02:06]
assbot Logged on 14-01-2016 00:10:03; mircea_popescu: << this thing's a fucking riot. "photon of color" totally makes the whole piece. [02:06]
adlai ben_vulpes re: "not operating a public urinal", tel aviv municipality has begun charging shnekels [02:08]
* adlai notes that mircea_popescu has voluntarily stuffed a gold bar into one of these, which is quite generous of him; once it runs low, it should really be somebody else's turn to jam the meter [02:10]
ben_vulpes danielpbarron: do you still have a copy of trinque's gentooizer? [02:10]
adlai << this is a not-bug-feature in deed^I (ping trinque ), gives the operator lead time in the nickel snatching race [02:13]
assbot [ANN] WOTPASTE Alpha (oh and I found another fucked up corner of GPG...) ... ( ) [02:13]
trinque ben_vulpes: I have it [02:19]
ben_vulpes neato, trinque. i'd love a copy. [02:20]
danielpbarron [02:20]
assbot Logged on 15-08-2015 22:32:03; trinque: shinohai: [02:20]
trinque having logs is so great. [02:21]
trinque I mean that as broadly as possible. [02:21]
trinque moreover logs with cryptographically preserved time capsules [02:22]
adlai deed-by-month is the enemy of merkle mountaineering greatness [02:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4434 @ 0.00049653 = 2.2016 BTC [+] [02:25]
adlai << shit, my business model leaked [02:25]
assbot Development Costs of User Interface Development (and mitigating them with Clojure/Script) ... ( ) [02:25]
adlai ben_vulpes: seen yet? [02:28]
pete_dushenski << " what3words has identified every one of the 57 trillion 3mx3m squares on the entire planet with just three, easy to remember, words. Every location on the earth now has a fixed, easily-accessible and memorable address. Unpopulated places have addresses for the first time ever, of course, but now so do heavily populated places like favelas in Brazil where there are no roads or numb [02:29]
pete_dushenski ered houses. Moreover the three word addresses are available not just in English but in French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish and Swedish with more languages on the way. The addresses in other languages are not translations but unique 3 word addresses in those languages." [02:29]
adlai next up, utxo-bloating "global triverb billboard" [02:32]
ben_vulpes one of my favorite parts of addresses is how they indicate relative proximity to someone who knows the map [02:33]
ben_vulpes i don't really see that in 3w [02:33]
adlai you're looking at implementation bugs, the idea is priceless [02:33]
adlai or worthless. or both [02:33]
punkman more gcc fun [02:34]
assbot A little data-flow analysis party trick ... ( ) [02:34]
trinque adlai: on my list is having the... urinal as you call it... announce its hunger [02:39]
trinque by god, sometime this month it might even have a fully synced trb to poke too [02:42]
trinque I'm still waiting on your generous donation btw, Anduck [02:42]
punkman notbad alt-deedbot I saw [02:44]
assbot bitsig - Blockchain Timestamps ... ( ) [02:44]
ben_vulpes re sks thread signed bundles of keys on everyone's websites is probably the best way to go [02:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4310 @ 0.00049896 = 2.1505 BTC [+] {2} [02:49]
adlai bestgood alt-deedbot is [02:53]
assbot CryptoGraffiti - Bitcoin blockchain messages as text ... ( ) [02:53]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: re: 3x, that's an excellent point. they really don't take that into account. [02:54]
adlai because it actually does what idiots think it does, and thus minimizes gnashing of teeth [02:54]
* adlai has been studying lately, will probably push blockchainfs onto the endless moebius TODO stack, along with utxosetfs [02:55]
assbot GitHub - HugPuddle/Apertus: Apertus - Store data, browse and communicate on your favorite Blockchains. ... ( ) [02:55]
adlai the latter purely to annoy those who don't understand why bloom filters belong in Bitcoin [02:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2390 @ 0.00050317 = 1.2026 BTC [+] [03:03]
adlai << books must be written one prop at a time [03:06]
assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 15:09:13; asciilifeform: adlai: have you considered starting a proper blog ? [03:06]
punkman adlai: how does apertus encode the data? [03:10]
adlai call it an experiment in a new funding model for open source software / pheature poker [03:10]
adlai punkman: unimpressively [03:10]
adlai << spam, spam, fees, spam, utxo bloat, spam [03:11]
assbot Bitcoin BlockBrowser - Transaction Details ... ( ) [03:11]
punkman ben_vulpes: the one with "locality-sensitive-hashing" is [03:13]
* adlai wouldn't blink at a USG imprisonment warrant (and seizure of License to Mine) against such txen [03:13]
BingoBoingo Bundy builds roads [03:16]
ben_vulpes !up punindented [03:16]
* assbot gives voice to punindented [03:16]
punindented tx [03:17]
punindented I'll let this here [03:17]
ben_vulpes dont mention it [03:17]
ben_vulpes dunno that im into geocoding at all nearly so much as legibility [03:18]
punindented well, you can build a hash using that algo and then represent it as you like [03:19]
punindented a mnemonic if you're into that [03:19]
punindented good thing about that algo is larger areas produce shorter hashes [03:19]
ben_vulpes did you catch my point about proximity info embedded in the way things are done traditionally? [03:20]
punindented no, let me check the log [03:20]
punindented relative proximity in terms of radius or direction and distance? [03:21]
ben_vulpes addresses increment from known points, streets are in locations known to natives. addresses encode 'where', legibly. [03:22]
* adlai has rekindled interest in publicurinalfs due to meatpope wanting to immortalize [some arbitrary edition of] {the,his} Bible [03:22]
punindented well, you have a recursive algo as well then, but the epicenter varies right? [03:22]
adlai meatpope, like the other kinds, has rubies to donate, provided it's done in a kosher manner according to satoshivision etc [03:23]
ben_vulpes yes, one must know how to read them. the universality, plus the randomness of hashing completely buries the location signal. [03:23]
punindented what are you building :) [03:23]
punkman nice list of geohashes [03:24]
assbot open-location-code/comparison.adoc at master · google/open-location-code · GitHub ... ( ) [03:24]
ben_vulpes me? nothing, just pointing out features of the way addresses already work. [03:24]
punindented mkay, I have a 'dirty' mind [03:25]
ben_vulpes lol dirty how? [03:25]
BingoBoingo People who really ought to be reading Qntra instead of medium and livejournal [03:26]
assbot Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn want to sabotage Bitcoin on behalf of the US government. - Andrew Auernheimer ... ( ) [03:26]
adlai BingoBoingo: /= read eval print [03:26]
BingoBoingo ? [03:26]
* adlai ... loops [03:27]
punindented geocoding is interesting for allowing interactions in real life, interactions in real life are interesting to build markets, ... [03:27]
adlai it's a lisp joke [03:27]
BingoBoingo eggog <2lsd [03:27]
adlai !s meth-lsd [03:27]
assbot 3 results for 'meth-lsd' : [03:27]
* adlai is a lotus eater and humbles himself before higher powers such as the legends of bias, zeno, jmc, and satoshi [03:28]
ben_vulpes punindented: real life interactions have just about epsilon need of geocoding to proceed [03:30]
pete_dushenski << lulz. "please, be more like progressive saudi arabia, where wimminz aren't allowed to leave their houses without their chaperones. kthxbye." [03:31]
ben_vulpes but hey, posit a specific case and let's proceed from there [03:31]
assbot NYC Police Boss Urges 'Buddy System' for Women in Cabs - ABC News ... ( ) [03:31]
punindented what about secure real life transactions [03:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3565 @ 0.00050366 = 1.7955 BTC [+] {3} [03:32]
punindented between previously unknown people [03:32]
ben_vulpes i bought a car for 6kusd from a man i found on craigslist who...sent me his address. [03:32]
ben_vulpes and yes i took a goon, but who doesn't? [03:32]
punindented haha, well, I wasn't thinking of the second hand vehicle market [03:33]
adlai punindented: the good-enough solution (drops) gets rediscovered on p2p lists quite often these days... yet customers seem to keep using 'evolution' [03:33]
ben_vulpes and yes, the likes of asciilifeform and i gather punindented boggle at the notion of doing h2h's with marginally-known parties with kilobuxx on the barrel [03:33]
ben_vulpes although asciilifeform probably does the sme thing with esoteric computer hardware. how would i know... [03:34]
ben_vulpes o this is the sr thread again? [03:34]
adlai drops are best described not as a coordinate, but using natural language... helps make the system more expensive to game [03:34]
adlai pretty much, unless punindented has something else in mind? [03:34]
punindented nah, let it go [03:34]
ben_vulpes hey, nobody's going to know what you're talking about unless you go so far as to talk about it [03:35]
BingoBoingo What happens when makes the guy who was interested in Bitcoin sell [03:35]
assbot Timothy B. Lee on Twitter: "Is Mike Hearn's post here overstating the magnitude of Bitcoin's crisis?" ... ( ) [03:35]
pete_dushenski << one for BingoBoingo, the boltmeister. [03:36]
assbot ... ( ) [03:36]
BingoBoingo and yes i took a goon, but who doesn't? << Persons who are their own goon [03:36]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: I'm fine watching the bolt ans tesla both suck together [03:36]
ben_vulpes btw BingoBoingo i did not miss the brodin line, chuckled [03:36]
ben_vulpes but are you really that swole yet? [03:36]
BingoBoingo ty ben_vulpes [03:36]
pete_dushenski looks like the vw golf-sized bolt weighs damn near two tons. gooooo environment ! [03:36]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Not that swole yet [03:36]
pete_dushenski and lg chem is making the battery for the bolt (but really, who else ?) [03:37]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: so is there something wrong with the volt drivetrain that it's not showing up in pickups etc? [03:37]
ben_vulpes it looks like the least stupid thing to come out of the ecomovement from over here [03:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6001 @ 0.00049817 = 2.9895 BTC [-] {3} [03:38]
pete_dushenski it's more the market demographics [03:38]
pete_dushenski there's pretty well zero overlap between greenies and truck drivers [03:38]
ben_vulpes but that low end torque! [03:38]
pete_dushenski gm tried 'hybrid' pick-ups, sold like 10 of em [03:38]
ben_vulpes nono not the hybrid part, i dgaf abt that. the electric motors with onboard generation. [03:39]
pete_dushenski the thing is, electric cars have to optimise aero. in the gm 'hybrid' pick-ups, the heinous 'aero' front lip spoilers completely negated the ground clearance, and therefore much of the appeal of trucks in the first place [03:40]
ben_vulpes ... [03:41]
ben_vulpes ecoshits aside [03:41]
ben_vulpes oh hm [03:41]
ben_vulpes they cant conceive of unbundling the good idea from the rhetoric. [03:42]
pete_dushenski you want torque, buy a diesel. [03:42]
pete_dushenski diesel makes moar smoak too, moar prestige [03:43]
ben_vulpes too loud. [03:43]
pete_dushenski you're obviously not a pick-up truck buyer [03:43]
pete_dushenski they're 80% for show [03:43]
ben_vulpes electric drivetrain with onboard generation is entirely the way to go. the train people figured this out a looong ime ago; "diesel electric". [03:44]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: yes there's clearly something at work other than sanity [03:44]
pete_dushenski yup, "people who shouldn't have money with middling amounts of it" [03:44]
ben_vulpes one of your favorite threads :P [03:45]
pete_dushenski trains also don't accelerate and decelerate as quickly or as frequently [03:45]
pete_dushenski as road vehicles [03:45]
ben_vulpes goodness no, they're designed by smart people efficiently as capital equipment. [03:45]
ben_vulpes fucking interstate highway project. greatest goddamn misstep. [03:47]
pete_dushenski << tahoe hybrid, same '2-mode' powertrain as silverado pick-up, same retarded-on-a-stick aero kit [03:47]
ben_vulpes BURN YOUR CAR. [03:47]
assbot ... ( ) [03:47]
* assbot removes voice from punindented [03:47]
adlai buy a bike, you'll learn more about trading and addiction from not getting run over than you will from losing money on plebian status symbols [03:48]
adlai better yet, rent one, if you live in a halfway modern metropolis [03:49]
pete_dushenski and skip the helmet [03:49]
* adlai is still waiting for his bus [03:49]
* ben_vulpes has bikes at three houses around town [03:49]
ben_vulpes helmet still recommended if yr gonna play the alleycat [03:50]
BingoBoingo The GM hybrid trucks were far more popular for being portable generators than for their hybrid drive, which almost never actually... drove the trucks [03:50]
ben_vulpes but yeah notrly necessary for the casual pannier derp [03:50]
pete_dushenski what's an alleycat ? [03:50]
ben_vulpes oh ho ho [03:51]
pete_dushenski in cyclist lingo [03:51]
ben_vulpes bike scum shit [03:51]
ben_vulpes "here are ten checkpoints in the metro area. GO!" [03:51]
* adlai would kill [his reputation] for a livable career as a bike messenger [03:52]
adlai excellent way to literally die honoring a contract (or serving a subpoena) [03:53]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: are there no bike scum where you live? [03:53]
ben_vulpes tallbikes, gorilla bars, swing-arms? [03:54]
pete_dushenski not really. the potholes and the snow are pretty potent deterrents i guess [03:54]
pete_dushenski if there are, they're few and far between [03:54]
ben_vulpes shame [03:55]
pete_dushenski lol [03:55]
ben_vulpes you should see pedalpalooza [03:56]
ben_vulpes adlai: might enjoy it [03:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00049566 = 2.4287 BTC [-] {2} [03:57]
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punkman [04:05]
assbot Amazon Has Just Registered to Sell Ocean Freight ... ( ) [04:05]
ben_vulpes lol [04:10]
ben_vulpes i can see them snapping up a mess of freighters at rock bottom prices as the bdi keeps collapsing [04:11]
ben_vulpes "But the idea of buying ocean freight is far less appealing for U.S. companies selling on the Amazon Marketplace. " << you don't fucking say i'm pretty sure i learned during the alcoa saga that nobody exports from the states any more [04:12]
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ben_vulpes wow 40-footers going for 1.3k from shenzen to la [04:14]
ben_vulpes betcha you can keep the box too [04:14]
ben_vulpes ;;8377.5 * 0.24 [04:16]
gribble Error: "8377.5" is not a valid command. [04:16]
ben_vulpes ;;calc 8377.5 * 0.24 [04:16]
gribble 2010.6 [04:16]
ben_vulpes ahaha man if they're letting you keep the container you might even be able to make a profit just selling the empty boxes for scrap [04:16]
ben_vulpes wait that's stainless [04:17]
ben_vulpes :( [04:17]
ben_vulpes anyways, it's not amazon, it's amazon cn, and they're not buying boats, they're operating as a freight forwarder. [04:18]
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Atomicat ;;up Transisto2 [04:22]
gribble Error: "up" is not a valid command. [04:22]
Atomicat !up Transisto2 [04:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00050603 = 1.3916 BTC [+] {2} [04:23]
Atomicat Transisto2: Hi [04:23]
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ben_vulpes ;;sell 1000 [04:54]
gribble (sell [at|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, (1 more message) [04:54]
ben_vulpes ;;market sell 1000 [04:54]
gribble Bitfinex | A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 405869.8939 USD and would take the last price down to 404.7000 USD, resulting in an average price of 405.8699 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0048 seconds [04:54]
ben_vulpes ;;market sell 2000 [04:54]
gribble Bitfinex | A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 809373.3715 USD and would take the last price down to 403.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 404.6867 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 10.3600 seconds [04:54]
ben_vulpes ;;market sell 5000 [04:54]
gribble Bitfinex | A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 2012068.3060 USD and would take the last price down to 399.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 402.4137 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 18.6682 seconds [04:54]
ben_vulpes ;;market sell 10000 [04:54]
gribble Bitfinex | A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 3922378.5897 USD and would take the last price down to 362.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 392.2379 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 28.1804 seconds [04:54]
ben_vulpes ;;market sell 100000 [04:55]
gribble Bitfinex | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7221905.5597 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0010 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.2191 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 43.9365 seconds [04:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6907 @ 0.00050849 = 3.5121 BTC [+] {3} [04:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00050999 = 1.224 BTC [+] [05:03]
jurov ben_vulpes yay. it does not account for encoding, as seen in view-source: [05:10]
jurov also, if there will ever be need for clearsigned-only service, ask me to make new mailing list next to btc-dev (and unlike deedbot, it allows attachments, too) [05:11]
jurov with great sadness i have to announce that now it does not even mutilate filenames [05:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00050999 = 1.8105 BTC [+] [05:18]
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ben_vulpes to the extent it was designed, it was designed to eat ascii. [05:39]
ben_vulpes what would you expect to see there? [05:40]
jurov when submitting form, browser sends along the encoding. [05:46]
jurov not a biggie to send it back, even slap the http header to raw text (text/plain;charset="$charset") [05:47]
ben_vulpes browser also submits [05:49]
ben_vulpes r [05:49]
ben_vulpes for every newline [05:49]
ben_vulpes but sure [05:49]
ben_vulpes i can almost guarantee that i am not catching encodings right now [05:50]
adlai ;;nethash [05:57]
gribble 770518178.742 [05:57]
adlai where'd it all go? did mickey sell his miners too? [05:57]
* adlai clarifies : aka "experiments in positive-sum crowdfunding" [05:59]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 06:04:24; adlai: << books must be written one prop at a time [05:59]
assbot ... ( ) [05:59]
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adlai in other tweets, [06:32]
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punkman [07:02]
assbot Obama administration ready to put $4B toward self-driving cars ... ( ) [07:02]
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mircea_popescu fresh from the... cupines. "I'm obese, but you are hilarious!" [07:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7314 @ 0.00050608 = 3.7015 BTC [-] {3} [07:36]
mircea_popescu << you are very much correct, upon meditation. mike hearn is pretty much the amir taaki of 2014-2015. [07:39]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 01:52:40; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yes, but I can only ever name one at a time and never specify and ordering lest I jinx the list. This is still feeling now like an alt universe version of 2012-2013 [07:39]
mircea_popescu as a sign of bitcoin's progress in the intervening coupla years, the amir taaki v2.0 can marginally spell, and in a very flat, vulgar manner express himself in writing. [07:40]
mircea_popescu << more like a magical dildo. [07:45]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 02:59:31; asciilifeform: (do we need a magical flute to make this work ?) [07:45]
mircea_popescu << omfg bb got credited with maddox111! [07:47]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 03:16:57; asciilifeform: << mega-l0l from BingoBoingo's link [07:49]
mircea_popescu << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carrying around a fucking pile of tiny l [07:52]
mircea_popescu ittle almost-identical keys. [07:52]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 03:20:29; asciilifeform: i suppose height of my career was as a penniless student: 1 key [07:52]
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mircea_popescu << herpitty derp, maybe at some point idjit in question learns what the key feature of CRYPTOworld is. [07:53]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 03:35:18; adlai: actual quote from meatwot-pope: "if somebody executes a death warrant against somebody trying to improve bitcoin, i'll fund and execute one against them myself" (don't judge him, he's prone to angry outbursts) [07:53]
mircea_popescu << i would much prefer a good warrant officer in a career of warrant officer than fucking around the internets trying to "find [the true] himself" because his delusions of success make it look like anything other than BEING GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO. [07:55]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 03:45:33; adlai: this is why people who wish for success in life don't go into warrant officer carreers, or even avoid .mil altogether [07:55]
mircea_popescu i've known tramps more successful in life than the sort of pointless idiots that come out of "ivy league". [07:56]
mircea_popescu this because the tramps were tramps, whereas pressed shit doth not intellectual makes. [07:56]
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mircea_popescu << is this Carolyn Burnham's archnemesis ? [08:03]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 04:06:12; BingoBoingo: I could not do it alone. I had to turn my will and life over to my higher power, Brodin the Allspotter. [08:03]
mircea_popescu << "overnight success usually takes 20 years" or how did that go. [08:04]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 04:07:00; AdrianG: things got more interesting recently with all these blocksizes [08:04]
mircea_popescu "The decision was made to pull from our profits to fill these wallets back up over time, thus attempting to avert complete closure of the website at that time. " [08:10]
mircea_popescu oh i see. [08:10]
mircea_popescu << btcalpha will have it tomorrow. [08:13]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 04:42:22; adlai: seeing as AdrianG did not !register in-channel, we now notice that post-gribble asswot has no way of publicly conjuring public-keyring contents [08:13]
mircea_popescu << do not put comas after urls. [08:14]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 05:04:19; adlai: ;;later tell dub re: comment in, you omit the reason why this is an excellent s-pass filter: technical barriers to entry leave low-content photons behind. cf [08:14]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes Do so (this is not a GPG guide), << Do so (GPG guide), ? [08:29]
mircea_popescu hehe check that out, dub got repelled by the antiuniversalist nature of the new democracy. turns out he was right : the citostatic has prevented tumours (doublespoken as "the channel") from growing. it has however not prevented the list of our accomplishments from growing, which was exactly the fucking point. we don't want more people, and we sure as fuck don't want "all the people". we just want a larger share of ever [08:33]
mircea_popescu ything good to flow to ~these~ people, and for it to constantly enlarge. that is all. [08:33]
mircea_popescu universalism is for nematodes. [08:33]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes "Updated: 1/14/2014" << are you from the past ? [08:34]
mircea_popescu << this is actually not a bad application of the dicelist. course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets. [08:42]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 05:27:50; pete_dushenski: ered houses. Moreover the three word addresses are available not just in English but in French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish and Swedish with more languages on the way. The addresses in other languages are not translations but unique 3 word addresses in those languages." [08:42]
mircea_popescu << yes but they don't want that, because much like everything else spawned by usg, they want you to need them. [08:42]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 05:31:25; ben_vulpes: one of my favorite parts of addresses is how they indicate relative proximity to someone who knows the map [08:42]
mircea_popescu think dns, if getting other websites i like would be as easy as adding 1 to ""... [08:43]
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mircea_popescu but of course you can't SIMPLY ADD STRINGS NUMERICALLY right ? :D [08:43]
punkman course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets. << their android sdk has all the data/code needed to run your own actually [08:51]
mircea_popescu there is exactly 0 possibility that one tries to heysteve and is not rentseeking. [08:52]
mircea_popescu strictly the only reason you might try to name things you don't own is your hope to steal a little. [08:53]
mircea_popescu which is why your parents calling you joe is a fundamentally different activity from the girl at the bar saying "hey stud" or the dudes threatened thereby going "hey loser". [08:53]
punkman myeah disregard my comment "Our goal is for what3words to become a global standard for communicating location. At the moment, the core what3words algorithms and data are not in the public domain. In the future, we may release some or all of our source code – we will continually evaluate the business case for doing this." [08:57]
mircea_popescu heh [08:58]
mircea_popescu the "business case", right ? [08:58]
mircea_popescu like google's been evaluating the "business case" for not being evil. [08:59]
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mircea_popescu timothy b lee > wants to write about bitcoin > is not in #bitcoin-assets >wonders why he can't make sense of anything. [09:07]
mircea_popescu gg jurnos! [09:07]
mircea_popescu << yeah srsly. there's a fucking reason there's diesel-electric train engines. [09:09]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 06:37:05; ben_vulpes: but that low end torque! [09:09]
shinohai ;;blocks [09:10]
gribble 393413 [09:10]
mircea_popescu for applications where the low end of the torque curve is what pays the bills, it is actually worth to generate electricity and run an electric engine rather than run a straight combustion engine arrangement [09:10]
shinohai I am at 391667 finally [09:10]
mircea_popescu but try and explain it to the ustardian weabos that they are solving an imagined problem with the exactly anti-adequate tools. [09:10]
mircea_popescu heh almost there shinohai wd. [09:10]
shinohai patience [09:11]
shinohai Mine hath been tested. [09:12]
mircea_popescu how long did this take ? [09:12]
shinohai 3 months? Running for first time with -verifyall [09:12]
mircea_popescu my 3 week old node is at 332425 [09:14]
shinohai I dunno mod6 told me it was normal [09:14]
mircea_popescu yeah, it is. this is a slightly beefier machine [09:15]
shinohai So i just let it chug along. It's running on a shitty board tbh [09:15]
mircea_popescu << in truth, engine miniaturization has proceeded to the point where this product would be marketable : a 4x4 "true" SUV with a pick-up truck option that has a 2-3 liter gasoline engine with a gpl add-on (so you can run it either on full gasoline, or do gasoline starting and run on gas) that autoswitches from powering the drive train to powering an electric engine [09:18]
mircea_popescu to power the drive train function of torque draw. and just for the marketing, put optional TRACK kit on the list. [09:18]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 06:38:58; pete_dushenski: the thing is, electric cars have to optimise aero. in the gm 'hybrid' pick-ups, the heinous 'aero' front lip spoilers completely negated the ground clearance, and therefore much of the appeal of trucks in the first place [09:18]
mircea_popescu make it 3-4 tons, damned thing could pretty much climb straight up a wall. [09:18]
mircea_popescu definitely could pull a us-style house. [09:18]
mircea_popescu there clearly exists a market for $100k cars, and this wouldn't take that to make. [09:18]
shinohai !s [09:19]
assbot Let's build a Freedom Node · Pavol Rusnak ... ( ) [09:19]
assbot 2 results for '' : [09:19]
mircea_popescu bring back hardened steel bodies, etc. [09:19]
shinohai oh yeah searched that already [09:19]
shinohai ^ advocates running XT, Tor [09:20]
mircea_popescu have all the good ads for it : take it to a skating rink, pour water up to the axles, watch it freeze, then climb, ignition and just go. [09:20]
mircea_popescu shinohai just tell the guy to come hiar. [09:21]
mircea_popescu << they "had to get the economy out of the slump". and so they... TARP'd the whole country. [09:23]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 06:45:30; ben_vulpes: fucking interstate highway project. greatest goddamn misstep. [09:23]
mircea_popescu to bureaucrat's credit, it must be pointed out that this time around they learned from those mistakes of the past and DIDNT spend on infrastructure. just gave the money off to the banks free and clear. [09:23]
mircea_popescu of course, to their discredit they still didn't figure out what the COMPLETE correction to their existence is. just went from "doing something stupid" to "not doing anything". the "how about you stop existing at all" thing is too hard. [09:24]
mircea_popescu << word. i never gave a shit about the entire "boats are the place" bullshit. [09:25]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 06:48:31; BingoBoingo: The GM hybrid trucks were far more popular for being portable generators than for their hybrid drive, which almost never actually... drove the trucks [09:25]
assbot NSFW Gradina Edenului on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [09:25]
mircea_popescu then one day power was out and suddenly... "wait, isn't that 240 HP engine backed by a full electric generator ? that could do up to 240 HP aka 180 kW ? [09:26]
mircea_popescu (in the end it could only do about 110, but that's... still enough) [09:27]
mircea_popescu << they export plenty, all through twitter &c [09:30]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 07:10:57; ben_vulpes: "But the idea of buying ocean freight is far less appealing for U.S. companies selling on the Amazon Marketplace. " << you don't fucking say i'm pretty sure i learned during the alcoa saga that nobody exports from the states any more [09:30]
mircea_popescu << and it's not a news site, it's radio erevan. [09:31]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 07:17:12; ben_vulpes: anyways, it's not amazon, it's amazon cn, and they're not buying boats, they're operating as a freight forwarder. [09:31]
mircea_popescu ;;nethash [09:32]
gribble 765883451.143 [09:32]
mircea_popescu lol aww [09:32]
mircea_popescu we're going to see a negative correction here for fucking once. [09:33]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [09:33]
gribble Current Blocks: 393414 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1721 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 15 hours, 48 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [09:33]
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thestringpuller interesting rumor I heard. Gavin when teaming up with the Toomim's told them "who the opposition really was" and they want a #b-a blessing now..."convince the opposition" [11:04]
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shinohai <<< a truce? [11:39]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 14:02:23; thestringpuller: interesting rumor I heard. Gavin when teaming up with the Toomim's told them "who the opposition really was" and they want a #b-a blessing now..."convince the opposition" [11:39]
davout mircea_popescu: plz to x.eur [11:40]
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pete_dushenski ;;ticker [11:42]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 390.92, Best ask: 390.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 390.83, 24 hour volume: 73577.19043617, 24 hour low: 385.03, 24 hour high: 432.57, 24 hour vwap: None [11:42]
pete_dushenski -10% overnight eh [11:42]
pete_dushenski must be all the block size controversy [11:43]
pete_dushenski "mass adoption will never happen without consensus u guise !!!1" [11:43]
d9b4bef9 danielpbarron davout dbclk diametric diana_coman dignork donpillou dooglus dub [11:43]
mircea_popescu on it davout [11:43]
pete_dushenski << never forget ryan selkis >> [11:44]
assbot Logged on 14-01-2016 21:56:37; mircea_popescu: anyone remember "twobitidiot" ? no, because today it's "toomim brothers". bla bla, whatevs. [11:44]
assbot Who Sucks More, Circle or TwoBitIdiot? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [11:44]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski eh, teh usg herps will try and as per usual fail to enact their mattering in the history of the world as recorded by its current sovereign, bitcoin. [11:44]
pete_dushenski quite so. [11:45]
pete_dushenski in other nyooz, 5 trb v99999 nodez !, [11:45]
assbot Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( ) [11:45]
pete_dushenski ^includes, yes, tevye [11:46]
pete_dushenski cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches ! [11:47]
pete_dushenski tevye's currently cruising at 18 connex while using ~350 mb memory. this is down from 50+ connex and 2 gb memory [11:48]
shinohai O.o [11:49]
mircea_popescu nice. [11:51]
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pete_dushenski "Dow briefly plunges 400 points after data, oil rout" << looks like it's 'sell the farm' day. wti under $30 too. [11:59]
mircea_popescu sell the farm to buy what ? [12:00]
pete_dushenski magic beans, just like jack. [12:00]
mircea_popescu aok [12:01]
pete_dushenski or mebbe pay off loans before yellen cranks the pain plan ratchet again ? [12:02]
pete_dushenski obligatory pain plan piece : [12:03]
assbot Inb4 the pain plan. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [12:03]
pete_dushenski "General Electric Co said it would sell its appliance business to China's Haier Group for $5.4 billion in cash, another step in its push to sell its non-core assets and project itself as a technology company." << here's where the chinese money is going. [12:04]
mircea_popescu non core, right. [12:05]
mircea_popescu GM Classic. [12:05]
pete_dushenski "The deal comes weeks after GE walked away from a deal to sell the business to Sweden's Electrolux for $3.3 billion, following months of opposition from U.S. antitrust regulators." << "we chineese, we no kaya hao much amewikan beezneez cost. we want buy nao !" [12:05]
pete_dushenski "For Haier, the deal means ownership of a century-old appliance business that makes refrigerators, freezers, clothes washers and dryers across brands such as Monogram, Café, Profile and Artistry. The business trails only Whirlpool Corp in the U.S. white goods market and reported revenue of $5.9 billion last year." << mega-non-core. [12:06]
mircea_popescu davout [12:09]
assbot dpaste: 1C0H70B ... ( ) [12:09]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski the truth is that "butterism" or however you say in english the chinese concept equivalent to the mexican "malinchismo" ensures that a chinese corp is in the best position to make money from otherwise defunct us brands. [12:11]
mod6 <+pete_dushenski> cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches ! << glad you got it working, Sir. =] [12:13]
mircea_popescu ain't mod6 a total pleasure to work with ? [12:13]
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mod6 awe, thx! [12:14]
mod6 PeterL: Hey, glad you got it resolved! [12:14]
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mircea_popescu !up ascii_butugychag [12:15]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_butugychag for 30 minutes. [12:15]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: that he is indeed [12:16]
pete_dushenski !s butterism [12:16]
assbot 0 results for 'butterism' : [12:16]
pete_dushenski !s malinchismo [12:16]
assbot 0 results for 'malinchismo' : [12:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 0.42679334 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 8 satoshi per share [12:16]
mircea_popescu dee [12:17]
pete_dushenski those are new terms for me too [12:17]
mircea_popescu hmm no deedbot ? trinque ? :) [12:17]
ascii_butugychag << Nothing Sucks Like Electrolux! (tm) (r) (actual) [12:17]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 15:04:10; pete_dushenski: "The deal comes weeks after GE walked away from a deal to sell the business to Sweden's Electrolux for $3.3 billion, following months of opposition from U.S. antitrust regulators." << "we chineese, we no kaya hao much amewikan beezneez cost. we want buy nao !" [12:17]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski they reference the smell of butter of people who eat in the western fashion [12:17]
mircea_popescu as milk products are virtually unknown in the mud eating empire. [12:17]
pete_dushenski funny [12:20]
pete_dushenski bbias [12:20]
ascii_butugychag l0ltr0nic: (subthread) [12:21]
assbot theo must be mad. [12:21]
mircea_popescu anyway. every slut eventually reaches that sad zenith point so aptly described by the celebrated Elvira Bulumac : [12:22]
assbot Literatura la prima ora, sau Capitolul I on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [12:22]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag why am i reading "sfjulie" ? [12:24]
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thestringpuller !up pete_dushenski [12:24]
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trinque mircea_popescu: thanks! [12:24]
thestringpuller !up PeterL [12:24]
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mircea_popescu the woman has no idea what she's talking about nor any appreciation of what having an idea even is or why'd it be desirable. [12:24]
ascii_butugychag linked for entomological reasons [12:24]
mircea_popescu deedbot- [12:25]
deedbot- Bad URL or network outage. [12:25]
ascii_butugychag something like mircea_popescu's specimens from okc [12:25]
assbot dpaste: 07ZM70V ... ( ) [12:25]
mircea_popescu deedbot- [12:25]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [12:25]
assbot ... ( ) [12:25]
mircea_popescu ic. [12:25]
mod6 <+mod6> PeterL: Hey, glad you got it resolved! << should have put this in a later tell, sorry. [12:27]
d9b4bef9 danielpbarron davout deedbot- diametric diana_coman dignork donpillou dooglus dub [12:29]
mircea_popescu deedbot- [12:29]
assbot ... ( ) [12:29]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [12:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 146.34965138 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 29 satoshi per share [12:30]
ascii_butugychag << l0lz!! am i the only one who gets this ref [12:30]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 12:29:30; mircea_popescu: << and it's not a news site, it's radio erevan. [12:30]
ascii_butugychag maybe phf too. [12:30]
ascii_butugychag and hey what happened to the other orks ? dignork ? [12:30]
mircea_popescu they were sold to the chinese conglomerate lusski for 5.5 bn. [12:31]
ascii_butugychag << hitler's yacht was a diesel-electric thing and was taken as a spoil; after the war, it powered a good chunk of odessa, for a while, iirc [12:32]
mircea_popescu can fit a lotta 20w lightbulbs in 100kw [12:33]
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ascii_butugychag aha [12:33]
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ascii_butugychag re: other nazi yachts, lulzy oldie, [12:37]
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punkman Radio Yerevan was asked: "Is it true that the poet Vladimir Mayakovsky committed suicide?" Radio Yerevan answered: "Yes, it is true, and even the record of his very last words is preserved: "Don't shoot, comrades."" [12:42]
ascii_butugychag << moar comedy [12:42]
mircea_popescu in lighter news, if anyone is looking to gangbang a seattle burlesque dancer, now open to public requests : [12:43]
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ascii_butugychag << the market for $100K ~turkey-dollar~ cars is very small. [12:46]
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mircea_popescu this may well be. [12:46]
ascii_butugychag hence no steel body. [12:46]
mircea_popescu you can't really put a real engine in the composite shits. [12:47]
mircea_popescu especially not one with good torque. [12:47]
ascii_butugychag eh sure you can, frame is steel even in a trabant [12:47]
mircea_popescu reasons should be obvious, but if not let us just say that... thermodynamics proposes, kinetics disposes. [12:47]
deedbot- [] X.EUR January 15th 2016 statement - [12:48]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag from what i understand, the trend towards smaller cylinders & less power (aka "fuel efficiency") as well as much more expensively machined parts (less noise, aka less w&t) is simply because otherwise the steel frame simply grinds the rest into paste too soon for what the market may still tolerate [12:48]
mircea_popescu people still expect their new car to work for a few years as opposed to 25k miles. [12:49]
ascii_butugychag actually there are some very surprising new kinds of rot - engine computer that fails, with mysteriously corrupted firmware, after 2-3 yrs, and is replaced - while supplies last - with identical crud; etc [12:50]
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mircea_popescu neways. [12:50]
mircea_popescu i haven't seen a new car model i liked in 20 years. [12:50]
ascii_butugychag !s the best car [12:51]
assbot 8 results for 'the best car' : [12:51]
ascii_butugychag (is... staying home) [12:51]
ascii_butugychag << the lulzy bit is that i have a node going on EXACTLY THAT machine [12:51]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 12:17:16; shinohai: !s [12:51]
ascii_butugychag it is starvation-cheap, for a fanless pentium thing, and mostly runs [12:52]
shinohai so it wouldn't be a waste of money to buy one for node purposes [12:53]
ascii_butugychag i don't recommend it [12:53]
ascii_butugychag 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower [12:53]
ascii_butugychag and you can put linuxbios on it [12:53]
ascii_butugychag unlike the intel turd [12:53]
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ascii_butugychag << this is probably not surprising to anyone who's been paying attention, but a trb node that isn't up to current height won't relay any tx that involves blocks not yet seen [12:55]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 12:12:28; mircea_popescu: my 3 week old node is at 332425 [12:55]
ascii_butugychag this is not a bug. [12:55]
ascii_butugychag but it does mean that a trb node is largely useless until fully synced. [12:56]
thestringpuller LOL. Coinbase exhcange pulls a Gox due to volatility! [12:57]
ascii_butugychag wai wut [12:57]
mircea_popescu ie "we were trading while insolvent, which is a crime, except for usg agencies" [12:57]
thestringpuller "oinbase Exchange is currently experiencing an outage, we are investigating and hope to have it back online soon." << They say it's "technical diffculties" either way, the exchange went down due to high volume trading. [12:58]
thestringpuller straight up Gox. [12:58]
ascii_butugychag ;;goxlag [12:58]
gribble Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command. [12:58]
ascii_butugychag l0l [12:58]
ascii_butugychag << reminds me, more than anything, of... urbit [12:59]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 11:40:24; mircea_popescu: << this is actually not a bad application of the dicelist. course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets. [12:59]
ascii_butugychag << largely yes. though i can thing of, e.g., astronomers naming comets, etc [13:01]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 11:51:17; mircea_popescu: strictly the only reason you might try to name things you don't own is your hope to steal a little. [13:01]
mircea_popescu yeah, right. to quote : "E, se Vostra Magnificenzia dallo apice della sua altezza qualche volta volgerà li occhi in questi luoghi bassi, conoscerà quanto io indegnamente sopporti una grande e continua malignità di fortuna." [13:02]
mircea_popescu from which did you ever read btw ? [13:03]
assbot Cartile au murit, on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [13:03]
ascii_butugychag lulzily, unrelatedly, i warmed up engine at the crack of dawn, to head to the trains, and turned on radio, '...france demands regulation of terrorist finances, such as the use of virtual currencies, such as bitcoins...' [13:03]
mircea_popescu herp derp. [13:04]
mircea_popescu fat child rapist put his hand in an old pillow and is now talking to himself ? fu bahamas. [13:04]
ascii_butugychag << congrats jurov ! [13:07]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 08:10:56; jurov: with great sadness i have to announce that now it does not even mutilate filenames [13:07]
ascii_butugychag << from the total and utter lack of anything like a wot marketplace for any thing i use whatsoever, i am stuck in heathendom (e.g., 'ebay') entirely [13:10]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 06:32:19; ben_vulpes: although asciilifeform probably does the sme thing with esoteric computer hardware. how would i know... [13:10]
ascii_butugychag this was discussed on multiple occasions. [13:10]
ascii_butugychag many times i tried to buy something via otc, it was a sad joke every time [13:10]
mircea_popescu sadly. [13:12]
ascii_butugychag which is interesting, because - before there even was 'ebay' - as a kid, i would buy/sell exotic hardware via usenet [13:13]
ascii_butugychag and there were takers [13:13]
ascii_butugychag whereas today, what little remains is corralled [13:13]
thestringpuller OTC devolved into madness pretty quickly. Paranoid everyone is a scammer. [13:13]
thestringpuller albeit the birthplace of the WoT [13:14]
mircea_popescu heh. to quote, "This is stupid way to adjust SNR for a few reasons not least that it is already solved in the IRC protocol. Chanops are a group of people the founder trusts sufficiently to regulate the conversation, deal with bad actors and operate the channel in the manner he intends. Kind of like a web of trust without the numerous failures this bullshit introduces. Default deny will prevent the channel from growing, [13:14]
mircea_popescu will not deflect a motivated attack, while adding a handful of SPOFs, risks and annoyance." [13:14]
mircea_popescu clearly the stupid model worked. [13:14]
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ascii_butugychag where was this [13:15]
mircea_popescu not only it created powerful with a view to almighty enemies for the "well intentioned" idiots engaging in that nonsense, but also it... fell over, burned and then sunk into the swamp. [13:15]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag [13:15]
assbot #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model ... ( ) [13:15]
ascii_butugychag wtf is a 'SPOF' [13:16]
mircea_popescu single point of failure. [13:16]
mircea_popescu as if. [13:16]
pete_dushenski huh. logs are missing everything from "re: other nazi yachts, lulzy oldie" to "while supplies last - with identical crud; etc" [13:16]
ascii_butugychag assbot was out [13:16]
pete_dushenski so he was [13:16]
ascii_butugychag who was dub anyway [13:18]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: you can't really put a real engine in the composite shits. << what "composite shits" are these ? most high-end cars have carbon-fibre tubs and 600hp+ turbocharged engines with 500lb ft+ of torque [13:18]
pete_dushenski seem to hold us quite nicely in fact [13:18]
pete_dushenski pagani even has proprietary titanium-reinforced carbon fibre. very nifty. [13:19]
mircea_popescu how much does a 600hp turbocharged engine wiht 500lb ft of torque cost ? [13:20]
pete_dushenski probably 50-70k [13:20]
pete_dushenski as part of a 300k car [13:20]
ascii_butugychag why not also include the cost of the law school tuition and the whores [13:21]
pete_dushenski you can buy such power from "domestics" for 20-30k [13:21]
ascii_butugychag engine per se is prolly south of 10k [13:21]
mircea_popescu so 300k car. what happens if i attach that 300k car to a street pole and go ful lthrothle in the ist ? [13:21]
pete_dushenski probably wheel spin [13:21]
mircea_popescu right. so the idea was that you could market a 100k real suv/pick up with 4k lbft torque, which if so attached would pull the light out and drag it with two yards' worth of sidewalk and the parked cars. [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00050189 = 1.9513 BTC [-] [13:22]
mircea_popescu and in spite of being able to pull train cars / tanks / your house, iut would still do ok on the freeway. [13:22]
ascii_butugychag mircea_popescu: these exist, are called bulldozer ? [13:23]
mircea_popescu bulldozer is straight. this would be electric. [13:23]
ascii_butugychag large mining trucks and bulldozers are presently diesel-electric [13:23]
ascii_butugychag we even had'em in su [13:23]
mircea_popescu exacflty my fucking point omfg! [13:23]
ascii_butugychag aha, ancient tech [13:23]
ascii_butugychag but the CORRECT way to do these is to throw out the transmission box and have 1 electric motor per wheel. [13:26]
ascii_butugychag (you win on efficiency, cost, and also get the regenerative brake thing) [13:26]
ascii_butugychag but, to borrow an uncleal-ism, 'But It Would Be Wrong' [13:27]
ascii_butugychag << ever since dc metro put in human drivers again into most of the trains, the thing brakes 10 times, lurches, nauseating [13:28]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 06:43:30; pete_dushenski: trains also don't accelerate and decelerate as quickly or as frequently [13:28]
mircea_popescu i have no idea what the correct way would be, but i envisaged an auto-transfer arrangement, where the engine powers the drive train except if torque pull gets too strong in which case it kicks off and electric engine takes over [13:30]
mircea_popescu they'd have to basically be pooled and work together [13:30]
ascii_butugychag nah that's what they do ~now~ [13:30]
ascii_butugychag and it sucks [13:30]
pete_dushenski ascii_butugychag: ford and vw (with usg/'protean') are working on just that : in-wheel electric motors [13:30]
ascii_butugychag because you're paying for that transmission being there at all [13:30]
mircea_popescu you want exactly what the market wants : a truck with good highway behaviour. [13:31]
mircea_popescu so yes, you'e paying. what of it. [13:31]
pete_dushenski [13:31]
assbot Protean Electric | Protean Electric ... ( ) [13:31]
mircea_popescu meh it looks like a pos. [13:31]
pete_dushenski !up peterl [13:31]
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mircea_popescu < this is closer to what you want. [13:32]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: usg. waddyawant. [13:32]
assbot ... ( ) [13:32]
pete_dushenski ha!! [13:32]
PeterL hi, trying to build trb, anybody want to help me figure out what is wrong? [13:32]
assbot ... ( ) [13:32]
mircea_popescu See `config.log' for more details. << what's that say PeterL ? [13:32]
ascii_butugychag fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory [13:33]
ascii_butugychag whatcha building on? nintendo ? [13:33]
mircea_popescu so far it looks like you don't have a working compiler basically [13:33]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag xubuntu iirc. [13:33]
pete_dushenski bbl [13:33]
ascii_butugychag checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no [13:34]
ascii_butugychag xubuntu went clang ?!! [13:34]
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mircea_popescu yes. [13:34]
PeterL aha, do I need to switch to a different compiler? [13:34]
ascii_butugychag yes. [13:34]
ascii_butugychag gcc. [13:34]
ascii_butugychag (has anybody built the thing with clang? i wouldn't use such a trb in the field, but it would be handy for scientific - code coverage, flow graph, etc. purposes) [13:35]
ascii_butugychag clang/llvm is well-suited for vivisection, and gcc is, unfortunately (see old threads re: why) is not [13:36]
mircea_popescu i recall maybe ben_vulpes toying with this at some point ? [13:36]
ascii_butugychag possibly [13:36]
ben_vulpes << i think deedbot- mised this one [13:36]
assbot Defend the world-trashers at the expense of those doing their tiny damndest, and lets see where that gets you ... ( ) [13:36]
ascii_butugychag !s from:ben_vulpes clang [13:37]
assbot 4 results for 'from:ben_vulpes clang' : [13:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3985 @ 0.00050183 = 1.9998 BTC [-] [13:38]
ben_vulpes oh i'm sure i did at some point, i have a bad windmill mabit [13:38]
ben_vulpes *habit [13:39]
mircea_popescu so basically to go through portland in relative safety one needs a half dozen fascia bearers to bullwhip a whole horde of plebs away enough to form a path. [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050183 = 1.1542 BTC [-] [13:42]
ascii_butugychag l0l ben_vulpes with lictors [13:42]
ascii_butugychag then what do i need, tank column ?? [13:42]
mircea_popescu why do you think it's by the you ? it's by the them. [13:43]
mircea_popescu you need the same. [13:43]
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ascii_butugychag << we don't have this here [13:44]
assbot Parks bureau works to clear large encampment on Springwater Corridor - ... ( ) [13:44]
ascii_butugychag (did, for a while. it was called 'occupy') [13:44]
ben_vulpes related lolz that didn't make it in [13:45]
ben_vulpes there are twenty feet of tarpaulined hoarder-pile stacked along 20th avenue, just outside the aforementioned col. summers park [13:46]
ben_vulpes the parks department won't touch it because it's not in the park proper [13:46]
ben_vulpes and the cops won't touch it because "be nice to the homeless!" [13:46]
ascii_butugychag 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent [13:47]
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ascii_butugychag ence describes rent-seekers as well as hobos [13:47]
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mircea_popescu how are hobos not rent seekers ? [13:47]
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mircea_popescu they're the paradigmatic rent seeker. [13:47]
ascii_butugychag hobo is small change [13:47]
ag3nt_zer0 good morning b-a [13:47]
mircea_popescu what exactly is the difference between "politician"? and hobo ? student ? etc. [13:47]
mircea_popescu ello [13:47]
ascii_butugychag scale. [13:47]
mircea_popescu scale is not a difference. [13:48]
thestringpuller there is no difference? [13:48]
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ben_vulpes small pineapple, large pineapple, should not matter when sitting. idem broomsticks prolly. [13:49]
mircea_popescu cunt fits all sizes. [13:50]
ascii_butugychag idk, even tepes was said to have used multiple calibers of stake, on a case by case basis [13:50]
mircea_popescu but i look forward to you learned men and your treatises of medicine discussing tuberculosis remedies by scale. [13:50]
mircea_popescu "if it's a big tuberculosis, drink coffee. if it is still small, drink tea!" [13:50]
ben_vulpes cancer has scalar treatments, non? [13:51]
mircea_popescu nope. [13:51]
ben_vulpes "maybe this" and "nop" [13:51]
ascii_butugychag scale exists for all. small boil? knife. gangrenous leg? saw. [13:51]
mircea_popescu that incidentally is a very informative field of study for he who aims to be a better systems expert : cancer cures. [13:51]
mircea_popescu the criteria for operability are very strictly given. for instance pancreatic cancer : has it touched the fat planes protecting the mesenteric vessels ? [13:52]
mircea_popescu it's not a matter of scale except to the layman. it is a matter of very alphabetical lists of things, for the professional. [13:52]
* ben_vulpes nods [13:52]
ben_vulpes unrelatedly, i got an entire night of sleep last night [13:53]
mircea_popescu heretic. [13:53]
mircea_popescu !excomunicate ben_vulpes [13:53]
ascii_butugychag mega-respekt [13:53]
ben_vulpes *and* the girl is sick. [13:53]
ben_vulpes *and* the child may be getting it as well. [13:53]
ben_vulpes ifni rolled me a good one. [13:53]
mircea_popescu ;;ud ifni [13:54]
gribble | Despite the urgency of escalating health care costs, there seems to be a slackidemic among those in power preventing any meaningful action from being taken. [13:54]
mircea_popescu what ?! [13:54]
ben_vulpes hipster goddes of luck, aka lady infity, lady limit [13:55]
ben_vulpes has domain over chance, mean reversion [13:56]
thestringpuller ;;nethash [13:56]
gribble 768156022.097 [13:56]
ben_vulpes statistically unlikely events and i guess vanity addresses [13:56]
thestringpuller ;;calc 768156022.097 * 0.005 [13:56]
gribble 3840780.11049 [13:56]
mircea_popescu !s nethash [13:58]
assbot 519 results for 'nethash' : [13:58]
mircea_popescu 27/12 : gribble: 837554982.002 ; 13/1 gribble: 886485320.427 ; 15/1 : 12:30:43 gribble: 765883451.143 [13:59]
thestringpuller i think gribble is miscalculating [14:02]
thestringpuller ;;gentime 768156022.097 [14:02]
gribble The average time to generate a block at 768156022.097 Mhps, given difficulty of 1.13354299801e+11, is 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 3 minutes, and 24 seconds [14:02]
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mircea_popescu uh [14:02]
mircea_popescu you missed a 0 [14:03]
thestringpuller aha! [14:03]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes so what's the rest of that shaking ny black dude hands story ? [14:04]
thestringpuller ;;nethash help [14:04]
gribble (nethash takes no arguments) -- Shows the current estimate for total network hash rate, in Ghps. [14:04]
ascii_butugychag << what was so hard about these [14:04]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 14:45:17; pete_dushenski: cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches ! [14:04]
mircea_popescu not all intercourse is fucking to require something hard to get it started, alfie! [14:04]
mircea_popescu sometimes people just like to cuddle. [14:04]
ascii_butugychag l0l [14:05]
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ascii_butugychag lulzily i am using a keyboard at this minute that is only slightly bigger than a vhs tape [14:06]
ascii_butugychag but has full-sized keys [14:06]
trinque "happy hacker" ? [14:06]
ascii_butugychag trinque: variant thereof, but with arrows [14:07]
ascii_butugychag 'not from a good life' [14:07]
ascii_butugychag a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk. [14:07]
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ascii_butugychag trinque: 'fc660c' [14:11]
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trinque not a bad looking clacky [14:12]
ascii_butugychag actually it is extremely painful on account of missing f keys and home/end/pgup/pgdown [14:13]
ascii_butugychag but not as painful as the idiot crapple kbd [14:13]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag> a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk. < [14:13]
mircea_popescu what the fuck are you doing, assembling ipads ? [14:13]
ascii_butugychag mircea_popescu: nah, that'd be more merciful, doesn't need a keyboard... [14:14]
mircea_popescu am i a truly miserable character if the sufferances of the young wethers in my own party actually amuse me ? [14:14]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: sometimes people just like to cuddle << you ever try telling this to a shawty who just wanna fuck? doesn't go over well. [14:15]
ascii_butugychag the desk isn't even small. but the laptop and two hanging lcd occupy almost all of the width [14:15]
mircea_popescu in other news, this shit's fucking epic [14:16]
assbot The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra ... ( ) [14:16]
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thestringpuller what's so lulzy? that Gavin and Hearn tried to build a nuke and failed miserably like best korea. (where their solution to rockets is having 1000 north koreans fling the bomb over the ocean) [14:17]
mircea_popescu Mircea is free to attack the coming upgrade. He will fail, because "Bitcoin is not a reflection of Mircea's hopes and aspirations, but a check on them." [14:18]
mircea_popescu derps on a first name basis with me. perhaps on account of my having fucked their mothers or something, no idea. [14:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00050219 = 1.7326 BTC [+] [14:19]
ascii_butugychag so ben_vulpes why does xcode take multiple minutes to load a 37 byte 'xml' turd [14:20]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: It seems we are living in your Pointless and Witless hypothetical. That story didn't have a happy ending tho. [14:20]
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mircea_popescu !up GoonClooney [14:22]
-assbot- You voiced GoonClooney for 30 minutes. [14:22]
* assbot gives voice to GoonClooney [14:22]
mircea_popescu didn't have an ending at all, mind. [14:23]
thestringpuller well pointless wasn't left with much optimism just, "Eventually I will lose to the witless." [14:24]
mircea_popescu that's not act6ually what it says. [14:25]
thestringpuller "Pointless : I guess sooner or later I'll lose, because idiocy has infinite hitpoints." [14:26]
thestringpuller I'm misinterpreting it then. [14:27]
jurov ha! and i wondered what model these pesky keys in eulora follow [14:27]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 10:50:59; mircea_popescu: << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carry [14:28]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller it could just as well be dude watching an insect burner thing going "i guess eventuallt it'll fill up" [14:29]
mircea_popescu jurov zing lol [14:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00050387 = 2.0155 BTC [+] {4} [14:30]
thestringpuller aha! [14:31]
BingoBoingo << Apparently pcengines is coming out with an APU2 board soon [14:33]
assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 15:51:50; ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower [14:33]
ascii_butugychag BingoBoingo: out for years ? [14:34]
thestringpuller oh look KNC miner drops XT for Bitcoin Classic >> [14:34]
BingoBoingo ascii_butugychag: No, just next iteration [14:34]
ascii_butugychag ah [14:34]
ascii_butugychag the pce apu is actually my favourite amd64 box of all time [14:35]
ascii_butugychag only marred by the soldered-down non-ecc ram [14:36]
ascii_butugychag but they actually publish schematics. you could even have your own made, somewhere. [14:36]
ascii_butugychag i don't know of any other mobo vendor which does this. [14:36]
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ascii_butugychag !s [14:52]
assbot SPHINCS: [14:52]
assbot 1 results for '' : [14:52]
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trinque "By saying "eliminate the state" we are advocating a security improvement, namely adopting signature schemes that do not need to record information after every signature. We are not talking about eliminating other types of states. We love most states, especially yours!" << oh god [15:07]
* trinque tries to find that picture of guy with american flag planted in his ass, can't [15:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050198 = 1.5059 BTC [-] {4} [15:11]
BingoBoingo How the social engineering sausage is made [15:16]
BingoBoingo [15:17]
assbot The ugly truth: Bitcoin is doomed and needs to be replaced : ethereum ... ( ) [15:17]
jurov let's replace it by g0ld [15:18]
assbot China to Start Yuan-Based Gold Price Fix in April: Game Changer? - Gold Stock Bull ... ( ) [15:18]
BingoBoingo ascii_butugychag: I only found out about the APU2 because openbsd-misc has people occasionally derping about the unfinished firmware on the new one [15:18]
ascii_butugychag BingoBoingo: amd publishes the chip docs, you're welcome to finish it personally... [15:18]
BingoBoingo Seems the finishing is largegly being 'crowdsourced' but moves to quad core AMD kaveri chip if I recal correctly [15:19]
mircea_popescu trinque eliminating the wrong kind of state. [15:20]
BingoBoingo ;;google apu2 beta [15:20]
gribble PC-Engines APU2 | ServeTheHome and ServeThe.Biz Forums: ; APU2 LED1-3 & Button Switch: Does anyone success on this?? - PC ...: ; PC Engines support forum Home Page: (1 more message) [15:20]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Have you considered working on your crazy eyes and walking with a hand in your pocket? [15:23]
mircea_popescu jurov i have nfi why they imagine this is "discovery" [15:24]
* BingoBoingo amazed even the saner people from Portland seem have shortcomings in their orccraft [15:24]
mircea_popescu gold is afaik still illegal to hold for chinese private parties. [15:24]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [15:32]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 389.8, vol: 29585.42972196 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 391.891, vol: 16993.74283 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 393.67, vol: 85603.52985172 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 400.0, vol: 15.49699301 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 401.85145, vol: 66234.54240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 394.6899, vol: 389.28134557 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 392.2606, vol: 298.59608725 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [15:33]
BingoBoingo ;;more [15:33]
gribble 395.66497872 [15:33]
mircea_popescu << speaking of weirdo spam, check out this stuff lol. [15:33]
assbot c++ - How do you use std::system_error with GetLastError? - Stack Overflow ... ( ) [15:33]
BingoBoingo Ah, this looks like great January correction. Fucking bizzaro history continues. [15:33]
ascii_butugychag mircea_popescu: what spam [15:35]
mircea_popescu that exsees link [15:35]
ascii_butugychag l0l! [15:35]
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mircea_popescu !up bjezuz [15:35]
-assbot- You voiced bjezuz for 30 minutes. [15:35]
* assbot gives voice to bjezuz [15:35]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag then i read it carefully. notice how the whole thing makes no sense and there's actually visible lines where syntactic units were thrown together ? [15:36]
ascii_butugychag aha shannonizer [15:37]
mircea_popescu "ai", in the sense not of intelligence, but in the sense of "not distinguishable from average human". [15:37]
ascii_butugychag ancient tech, at this point [15:37]
ascii_butugychag even in spamland [15:37]
mircea_popescu this is better than most. [15:37]
ascii_butugychag how so ? [15:37]
mircea_popescu notice how high ranked the acct is in the site's own terms. [15:37]
mircea_popescu [15:37]
assbot User Mooing Duck - Stack Overflow ... ( ) [15:37]
mircea_popescu that's more than wikipedia spammers such as yourself accomplish! [15:38]
ascii_butugychag quite likely it is an 'imperium in imperio' upvote clique, elementarily [15:38]
mircea_popescu Compliments: [15:38]
mircea_popescu ThePhD: "To this day, MooingDuck has probably been the most helpful lounge person I've come across." [15:38]
mircea_popescu Dzek Trek: "@MooingDuck is the best teacher here. He explains everything in the way that just listeners want to hear." [15:38]
mircea_popescu Dan: You explain things fully and in a way that just makes sense to me. [15:38]
mircea_popescu notice that the [no doubt actual] google software engineer behind the crapolade is deeply aware of what the holes in the levies are. [15:39]
ben_vulpes ascii_butugychag: how would i know, i'm just a human compiler [15:39]
ascii_butugychag and i'm not seeing any obvious spamola in duck's other posts [15:40]
ascii_butugychag possibly 'paste fail' ? [15:40]
mircea_popescu because people go around with links to that in their pastes ? [15:40]
ascii_butugychag e.g., [15:41]
assbot The static keyword and its various uses in C++ - Stack Overflow ... ( ) [15:41]
ascii_butugychag looks like a perfectly legit summary [15:41]
ascii_butugychag << ditto [15:41]
assbot c++ - How to implement an STL-style iterator and avoid common pitfalls? - Stack Overflow ... ( ) [15:41]
mircea_popescu [15:41]
mircea_popescu [15:41]
assbot ... ( ) [15:42]
mircea_popescu [15:42]
mircea_popescu all come up for a strict search for "static variables exist for the "lifetime" of the translation unit that it's defined in, and:" [15:42]
ascii_butugychag l0l! [15:42]
mircea_popescu aha ? [15:42]
ascii_butugychag if thing is a bot which cribs from www, it is a pretty good one [15:42]
mircea_popescu kinda what the original point was yes, [15:43]
mircea_popescu rather good "ai" [15:43]
* mircea_popescu enjoys an immense inflow of pesos now that btc has dropped a little, because hey, local idjits price by medieval methods. [15:44]
ascii_butugychag still seems like it could easily be a prolific and plagiaristic (e.g., east asian) human [15:45]
mircea_popescu ie, spread = volatility *2 + 15% or some shit. [15:45]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag kinda the point innit. [15:45]
ascii_butugychag mechanized coolie aha. [15:45]
mircea_popescu the "reddit experiment" is in full swing, even WE can't distinguish anymore. [15:46]
ascii_butugychag !s dead souls [15:46]
assbot 19 results for 'dead souls' : [15:46]
mircea_popescu what change's a webified ustardian "computer science major" got. [15:46]
ascii_butugychag orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece [15:46]
ascii_butugychag but the tardatron is genuinely obsessed with making convincing faux ~lusers~ [15:46]
ascii_butugychag because the real thing has various undesirable properties [15:47]
ascii_butugychag (fickleness, occupying physical space, needing food, etc) [15:47]
ascii_butugychag and for a great many purposes, spambots are at least as good as 'people' [15:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00050524 = 1.154 BTC [+] [15:49]
mircea_popescu actually, for all purposes. there is no sense in which a spambot is not a better "people" than a us citizen today. [15:50]
ascii_butugychag well, certain ceremonies still require warm bodies, but this is being worked on [15:50]
* mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human. [15:50]
ascii_butugychag and they are largely anachronisms anyway (e.g., vote) [15:50]
mircea_popescu vote is electronic now neh ? [15:51]
ascii_butugychag mircea_popescu: semi-electronic [15:51]
mircea_popescu * mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human. << this, incidentally, why the write on tits is so important. [15:51]
ascii_butugychag but as of the 2004 election, there is NOT A PERMA-RECORD of particular votes [15:51]
ascii_butugychag that was more or less the end of the pretense [15:51]
mircea_popescu well, the pretense nigh on embarassed teh bushdom. [15:52]
ascii_butugychag i was, in those days, a foolish student, and actually went and picketed 'your vote doesn't count! literally!' [15:52]
ascii_butugychag 'diebold voted' [15:53]
mircea_popescu but you forget, ustardian doesn't want his "vote to count". he wants the ebt to keep showing up. [15:53]
ascii_butugychag etc [15:53]
ascii_butugychag mircea_popescu: or his lockheed salary, aha [15:54]
mircea_popescu also ebt. [15:54]
ascii_butugychag but in point of fact there is no 'honest work' going on anywhere in usa, with possible exception of mafia hits etc [15:54]
ascii_butugychag ~everybody~ is in some way plugged in. [15:54]
mircea_popescu from what i hear mafia's pretty much a joke for years now [15:54]
ascii_butugychag well mexican narco or whatever is current [15:55]
mircea_popescu those, yes. [15:55]
ascii_butugychag i've never even personally sat more than 2 or so hops away from usg, payola-wise [15:55]
ascii_butugychag usa had 'palace economy' for my entire adult life [15:57]
ascii_butugychag like the inca empire. [15:57]
mircea_popescu and to think your parents moved specifically to avoid this fate for you. [15:58]
ascii_butugychag not precisely [15:58]
mircea_popescu ah [15:58]
ascii_butugychag moved because richer inca here than there [15:58]
mircea_popescu ah i see. with romanians it was a big deal "i want my kids to grow up free" [15:58]
ascii_butugychag by '92 it was pretty clear what 'phreeee' meant for most folks [15:59]
mircea_popescu lord almighty, is there no end of waitresses whose real passion is photography/music/blabla ?! [15:59]
ascii_butugychag mircea_popescu: what kind of answer do you expect them to give ? 'my real passion is mixing cement' [16:00]
mircea_popescu sometimes the only winning move is not to play. [16:00]
ascii_butugychag then why did mircea_popescu go to the playing room [16:00]
ascii_butugychag of course it is full of folks playing. [16:01]
mircea_popescu lol. i prolly should share this one, a sec. [16:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00050664 = 2.0772 BTC [+] {2} [16:01]
mircea_popescu incidentally : it seems my account on okcupid was briefly banned this monring, judging by how the script croaked [16:03]
mircea_popescu and by the apology letter in my inbox. [16:03]
mircea_popescu anyone ever heard of something like this befoar ?! [16:03]
* ascii_butugychag last saw okc more than a decade ago [16:04]
mircea_popescu also student ? [16:04]
ascii_butugychag aha [16:04]
ascii_butugychag it was a lulzy timewaster [16:04]
ascii_butugychag the character quiz thing, etc [16:04]
mircea_popescu quite. mechanized lulzextraction. [16:04]
ascii_butugychag (does it still have the 'what type of creature are you' thing?) [16:04]
mircea_popescu i dunno [16:05]
mircea_popescu i see it through lynx eyes [16:05]
mircea_popescu and some cat. [16:05]
mircea_popescu << speaking of folks playing. [16:05]
assbot ... ( ) [16:05]
ascii_butugychag lynx happens to be my favourite felid [16:06]
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mircea_popescu not moiety whatever that was ? [16:06]
ascii_butugychag manul is pretty but not man-eating [16:07]
BingoBoingo manul is pretty but not man-eating << yet [16:07]
ascii_butugychag and 168 of what? [16:07]
mircea_popescu of heights. [16:08]
ascii_butugychag ah cm [16:08]
BingoBoingo anyone ever heard of something like this befoar ?! << Not unheard of [16:08]
mircea_popescu ah ok then. [16:08]
mircea_popescu anyway, ascii_butugychag point being : mechanized sorting of the playing innocents is, after all, an economic activity. [16:09]
BingoBoingo Prolly pissed some users off and they flagged you and got autobanned with a manual overturn of ban [16:09]
mircea_popescu i guess ima pay em a few dollah then. [16:10]
mircea_popescu pour encourager les autres. [16:10]
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thestringpuller ben_vulpes: i got an entire night of sleep last night << as chetty told me: [16:17]
mircea_popescu o.O [16:17]
deedbot- [Qntra] First Mass Walmart Closure - [16:20]
BingoBoingo ^ Bigger news than the Dow sucking ass today [16:21]
mircea_popescu this makes so little sense... what'll distribute the iron rats to the trashy plebs ?! [16:21]
ascii_butugychag i often wonder, how long would it take me to notice if every single wallmart vanished overnight [16:21]
mircea_popescu amazon ? [16:21]
ascii_butugychag amazon, sure [16:22]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag less than an hour. [16:22]
thestringpuller I was literally just told "Buy Wal-Mart stock. Always holds against a recession" [16:22]
BingoBoingo Surviving walmart will mircea_popescu just gotta take more bus nao to get to walmart [16:22]
ascii_butugychag mircea_popescu: how's that [16:22]
mircea_popescu because of the absence of drones everywhere and some smoke in the air. [16:22]
mircea_popescu what exactly did you imagine keeps the semblance of a "palace" standing up ? [16:22]
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mircea_popescu they stress-tested this once, delayed ebt almost a whole weekend. [16:23]
mircea_popescu thing nearly fell apart. [16:23]
ascii_butugychag mega-s33kr1t for mircea_popescu: ebt etc. work at places other than l0lmart [16:24]
mircea_popescu you understand how stress propagates right ? [16:25]
ascii_butugychag aha [16:25]
ascii_butugychag this, yes [16:25]
mircea_popescu if this didn't exist, the whole "i didn't spend 50 bux to fix my car two weeks ago so i gotta pay 1100 today" thing wouldn't exist. [16:25]
ascii_butugychag cascaded failure is the rule, rather than exception [16:26]
ascii_butugychag if this were not so, it would be quite difficult to die [16:26]
mircea_popescu so without free shelf-stable cheese dispensaries... someone's gonna have problems. [16:26]
ascii_butugychag could fight on like the knight in monty python [16:26]
* ascii_butugychag feels physically ill recalling the mere existence of the 'shelf-stable cheese' thing [16:27]
mircea_popescu ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ? [16:27]
mircea_popescu they ever-so-carefully avoid showing how fat they are. on one hand. and on the other... [16:27]
ascii_butugychag same thing as with job candidates having much better looking biographies in their cv ? [16:27]
BingoBoingo ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ? << 'Catfishing" or more accurately 'fatfishing' [16:27]
mircea_popescu nono, i mean with them. [16:28]
ascii_butugychag ah! [16:28]
mircea_popescu and they never say "i'm the ugly one" either. or you know, "the short boring looking one". it's always "i'm the one in the right [16:28]
mircea_popescu i mean, taking pic with mom i can see, serious psychological disturbances. [16:28]
mircea_popescu but... what fucking female doesn't understand you find some UGLIER friends to wing for you ?! [16:28]
ascii_butugychag possibly they actually think 'the light of the beauty' illuminates them ? [16:29]
ascii_butugychag when standing next to [16:29]
mircea_popescu this is on par with imagining periods will make them feel good. [16:29]
ascii_butugychag wai wut?! [16:29]
mircea_popescu "i feel like my ovaries are floating in rainbow" [16:30]
ascii_butugychag who imagines this [16:30]
mircea_popescu exactly. [16:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3509 @ 0.00050156 = 1.76 BTC [-] {2} [16:34]
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mircea_popescu ahahaah there;'s such a thinkg as hicksville, ny. [16:40]
BingoBoingo !up PeterL [16:44]
* assbot gives voice to PeterL [16:44]
PeterL maybe somebody could help, I'm trying to build trb, [16:45]
assbot ... ( ) [16:45]
mircea_popescu holy shit the stuff poor PeterL is running into [16:45]
mircea_popescu PeterL looks like you don't have openssh ? [16:46]
mircea_popescu openssl* [16:46]
PeterL I thought it built that earlier in the script? [16:46]
ascii_butugychag PeterL: have you considered something like a human os ? [16:46]
PeterL in my folder i am building in there is a directory "openssl-1.0.1g" [16:47]
PeterL human os? [16:47]
ascii_butugychag well you are clearly on some heathen abomination [16:47]
PeterL xubuntu [16:47]
PeterL just trying to follow directions on trb website [16:48]
mircea_popescu ascii_butugychag srsly nao. this thing is supposed to build. [16:48]
ascii_butugychag mircea_popescu: not for nintendo. unless and until i port it to nintendo. [16:49]
ascii_butugychag (or mircea_popescu or somebody) [16:49]
mircea_popescu PeterL is the openssl dir in the paths correctly ? [16:49]
PeterL which paths? [16:50]
mircea_popescu mmm im not too fresh on this but somewhere in the script it's told where to find the things it needs, [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2591 @ 0.00050073 = 1.2974 BTC [+] [16:51]
mircea_popescu and since it's looking for openssl/buffer.h as opposed to openssl-1.0.1g/buffer.h i'd guess it's lost [16:51]
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PeterL I see a line "OPENSSL=openssl-1.0.1g" in the script, is that it? [16:55]
mircea_popescu that should do it. [16:55]
mircea_popescu ok that's not it, does the file it wants actually exist on your system ? can you find it ? [16:56]
mircea_popescu (is it a ridiculous mishap such as results sometimes from manual archive manipulation where you have openssl-1.0.1g/openssl-1.0.1g/blabla ?) [16:56]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [16:57]
gribble Current Blocks: 393453 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1682 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [16:57]
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mod6 PeterL: hi, are you using the v99997 build script? [17:04]
PeterL yes [17:04]
PeterL oh, wait, is that the same one linked on trb website? [17:05]
mod6 did you try to run this script more than one time? [17:05]
PeterL umm, yes [17:05]
mod6 no, i don't think it's linked. it's not 'official' at this point -- just a thing I put together to build the full orchastra and pull & press src with V. [17:06]
mod6 ok, so trying to run that script more than once might cause some pain. [17:06]
PeterL I am using the script from [17:06]
assbot [BTC-dev] UPDATED v0.0.5: Patching The Reference Implementation: A Guide ... ( ) [17:06]
mod6 i'd try creating a new dir somewhere, putting the build script in the new dir, and then running it again. [17:07]
ascii_butugychag aaaancient history [17:07]
ascii_butugychag imho everybody oughta be using v build at this point [17:07]
mod6 oh yeah. that's very old. lemme dig up the latest one. [17:07]
PeterL I guess I am just not sure how to get v to build it once I have v? [17:07]
mod6 so, V doesn't actually do any building at all. [17:09]
PeterL ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it? [17:09]
mod6 it just pulls down the vpatches, and inflates the source tree from zero. [17:09]
mod6 <+PeterL> ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it? << the latest build script will do all of this for you ~except~ creating your ~/.wot directory with the appropriatly named keys placed in the directory. [17:10]
mod6 you need buildroot+everything to build the static binary. [17:10]
PeterL which one is the latest build script? [17:10]
* mod6 is still digging in the logs. [17:10]
mod6 one sec. [17:10]
mod6 is there a way to search the deeds in deedbot? [17:12]
PeterL google searchstring ? [17:13]
mod6 thanks, couldn't find it on deedbot though [17:14]
mod6 but this is the one [17:14]
mod6 [17:14]
assbot ... ( ) [17:14]
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mod6 and... like i said, create a new dir, drop this script in there and run it -- but be aware that if left unchanged from the original, it'll not build alf's latest two patches in when pressing the source out. [17:15]
mod6 !up PeterL [17:15]
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mod6 if you want it to do so, you'll need to edit this line: [17:16]
mod6 ./ p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch [17:16]
mod6 and change it to this: [17:16]
mircea_popescu oh he's uysing a 9month old script. doh. [17:16]
mod6 ./ p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch [17:17]
PeterL maybe the website could include a note to not use that script? or just take it off the front page? [17:17]
mod6 my apologies. what exists on the website is meant to help someone build v0.5.3.1 -- the rest of this stuff is basically as-of-yet-unreleased. [17:18]
mod6 trying to get there... just a zillion things to work on :( [17:18]
mircea_popescu poor mod6 [17:19]
PeterL no problem, i understand [17:19]
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BingoBoingo Prolly ought to get out a 0.5.4 relase tagged, since... that database fix is necessary [17:26]
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ascii_butugychag yeah the old tree is close to useless [17:27]
BingoBoingo I mean... unless we plan a future reorg back to August 2015... [17:27]
BingoBoingo !up copumpkin [17:27]
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BingoBoingo Thanks to V there's no serious need to tag anything beyond the BDB fix in a release, but... Gotta tag something useful as the recommended [17:28]
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PeterL does v have to be in the same directory as the buildscript? [17:29]
PeterL I tried to run the script, it just says ": invalid option" [17:32]
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BingoBoingo !up PeterL [17:47]
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mod6 getting it resolved... he's on a i686 env. [17:48]
mod6 ben_vulpes: so yah, having the keys on blogs/homepages isn't a bad idea. [17:55]
mod6 but... maybe it'd be useful to put the links to our exported, ascii armored keys in the assets wiki? [17:56]
mod6 that way when someone wants to get going with V, they can find the keys without having to dig through 6 blogs. [17:56]
mod6 and additionally, this cuts out SKS. [17:56]
mod6 my key can be found here; [17:57]
assbot ... ( ) [17:57]
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ascii_butugychag !s pressed cd [17:57]
assbot 6 results for 'pressed cd' : [17:57]
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mod6 ah [17:58]
mod6 ;;later tell PeterL Sorry, just missed you there. Thanks for your patience and efforts to build! We'll get through it. [17:58]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:58]
BingoBoingo Looks like axe time approaches [18:01]
assbot BitFuryGroup is ready to move forward and support 2MB increase with Bitcoin Classic : btc ... ( ) [18:02]
punkman that's not good [18:04]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: KNC miner also committed as well. [18:10]
BingoBoingo You got to understand the fiat orchestra is coming together [18:11]
thestringpuller the shitgnome symphony orchestra [18:11]
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mircea_popescu my key can be found here; << my key's also been on my blog forever now. [18:16]
assbot ... ( ) [18:16]
mircea_popescu what exactly do miner producers have to do with this discussion ? [18:16]
mircea_popescu "That puts over 50% of the hash rate behind Bitcoin Classic, consensus has been achieved." [18:19]
mircea_popescu lol reddit. [18:19]
mircea_popescu "A few hardcore small-blockians might actually delay their switch, because the level of anger from that nasty group will be unimaginable, when their beloved developers betray them like this. Popescu alone will probably have a heart attack :)" [18:21]
mircea_popescu lol ok. [18:21]
mircea_popescu mno, i will simply be staying with bitcoin. as aformentioned, good riddance. [18:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050864 = 1.5259 BTC [+] {3} [18:22]
mircea_popescu lol coinbase doesn't let people buy anymore? :D [18:31]
BingoBoingo But it's easy to see how this plays out. Hearn agenda fails and he loudly quits. Derps knee jerk sold on Hearn agenda which is still a pile of fail [18:31]
BingoBoingo lol coinbase doesn't let people buy anymore? :D << not today [18:31]
mircea_popescu yeaya, im sure that's how things go. [18:32]
mircea_popescu << uncharacteristically, r/bitcoin is pretty aware of what's going on. [18:33]
BingoBoingo But yes, fiat media was all ready to run on hearn's "Bitcoin dead" and loyal USG exchanges ready to prevent buying to fire the broomstick one last time [18:33]
assbot Mike Hearn's latest blog post was a strategic move by R3 to influence the industry : Bitcoin ... ( ) [18:33]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: it's ashame they underestimate the enemy. when reality sets in the classic, "No one saw this coming!!!111" will echo throughout the chambers. [18:34]
mircea_popescu eh that's ok, im sure it'll never have happened. [18:34]
mircea_popescu just like xt etc. [18:35]
mircea_popescu all that hard work trying to select a marginally defensible epithet and coming up with "classic"... [18:35]
mircea_popescu sad. [18:35]
BingoBoingo The only material difference between XT and "classic" is "classic" has a vague chance of triggering the crisis. XT never had a chance. Not in this or any other hell. [18:36]
mircea_popescu amusingly... they don't even have 1/3 of the "public support"/astroturf of xt ? [18:36]
mircea_popescu da fuck is this limp dick shit lmao. [18:36]
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BingoBoingo da fuck is this limp dick shit lmao. << This time they skipped the astroturf to just do the VC dollar squeeze [18:40]
mircea_popescu oh oh [18:43]
mircea_popescu so the derps are going to control 5bn worth of usg poison with some idle promises for maybe 30-50mn theoretical and in fact a few thouysand here and there ? [18:45]
mircea_popescu what is this, usg's wet dream ? go sink a chinese aircraft carrier, yo. [18:46]
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BingoBoingo !up irdial [18:55]
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BingoBoingo irdial: See the line here titled register. You are in gribble wot, but not assbot wot yet [18:57]
assbot irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( ) [18:57]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $700 before Apr 2016 - [18:57]
irdial !register 5E16D36EDB3240F9 [19:02]
assbot That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint. [19:02]
BingoBoingo irdial: Full fingerprint [19:03]
BingoBoingo !up gernika [19:12]
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gernika thx BingoBoingo. Curious what's the deal with coinbase? I just bought some btc there like 1 hr ago... [19:12]
BingoBoingo gernika: Well, they are having a lot of "service interruptions" today [19:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00050695 = 3.3459 BTC [-] {3} [19:13]
BingoBoingo Has the Bitcoin hit your own wallet yet or is it still in Coinbase? [19:14]
gernika saw something on reddit where some guy said he couldn't buy [19:14]
gernika No - never hits my wallet until a week after I buy, which is normal. [19:14]
gernika for coinbase [19:14]
gernika er couldn't sell [19:14]
gernika And no I don't keep more than a pittance in the wallet at any time. [19:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3298 @ 0.00050615 = 1.6693 BTC [-] {2} [19:19]
BingoBoingo ah [19:20]
irdial !register E930 6C6E 1CCE 5697 A88B 5482 5E16 D36E DB32 40F9 [19:20]
assbot That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint. [19:20]
deedbot- [Qntra] Robocoin/Romit Follows Hearn Out - [19:21]
irdial !register E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9 [19:22]
assbot Searching for key with fingerprint: E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9. This may take a few moments. [19:22]
assbot Key DB3240F9 / "Irdial-Discs " successfully imported. [19:22]
assbot Registration successful. [19:22]
gernika Would prefer not to use coinbase any longer, but no "exchange" is any better, and bitcoin-otc is dead. [19:23]
ascii_butugychag i even used it once ! [19:23]
ascii_butugychag in fact, the only time i bought coin since... gox [19:24]
jurov !gettrust jurov gernika [19:24]
assbot Trust relationship from user jurov to user gernika: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | | [19:24]
ascii_butugychag it worked about as well as 'golden age' gox [19:24]
ascii_butugychag grudgingly spat forth some coin [19:24]
gernika ascii_butugychag: otc? [19:24]
ascii_butugychag coinbase [19:24]
jurov gernika i am selling btc via transferwise, so far works well [19:24]
BingoBoingo irdial: ty, now you can !up yourself in channel and if you wish you may drop an dpaste encrypted to my public key here for consideration for qntra publication [19:25]
ascii_butugychag i was never able to get anything useful whatsoever from otc [19:25]
jurov (not big volume tho) [19:25]
gernika jurov: will check it out [19:25]
BingoBoingo irdial: If something you submit does get published you talk to jurov about collecting your shares. Thank you for your patience. [19:25]
gernika ascii_butugychag: I've done a few small transactions on otc. All went smoothly. [19:26]
gernika But since the bot went down, haven't used it. [19:26]
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BingoBoingo !up irdial [19:27]
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irdial BingoBongo Thatnk you for helping me. [19:27]
BingoBoingo irdial: No problem. Just please !up yourself to make sure you have the process for doing so down. [19:28]
irdial !up [19:28]
irdial !up irdial [19:28]
jurov irdial you're up already, i'll devoice you first, then retry [19:29]
jurov !down irdial [19:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00050942 = 1.6556 BTC [+] {2} [19:29]
jurov irdial oh and talk to assbot in pm, not here [19:30]
ascii_butugychag 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking, , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will [19:30]
assbot Beyond Bitcoin: Morning Webcast Session - YouTube ... ( ) [19:30]
ascii_butugychag be a New York Times article saying Mike Hearn broke up with Bitcoin and called it a failed experiment."' << l0l [19:30]
gernika "When one of the most important people in Bitcoin states something like that you have to listen." [19:33]
assbot Bitcoin Is Dead, Long Live Bitcoin – AVC ... ( ) [19:33]
danielpbarron BingoBoingo, would help if someone gave him a rating first :p [19:33]
BingoBoingo !rate irdial 1 loud [19:33]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: [19:33]
jurov lol you did not? [19:34]
BingoBoingo !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.irdial.1:fea0f97f18bed88a3642c4a450d4595eca0ea2591c2f4557fae869882916da7c [19:34]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for irdial with note: loud [19:34]
BingoBoingo jurov: forgot too [19:34]
danielpbarron i think i tried to give him a -1 a while back but couldn't because he was in the wrong WoT [19:34]
BingoBoingo irdial: Pls try to up self again [19:34]
danielpbarron << irdial remember this? [19:38]
assbot Logged on 04-02-2015 09:56:00; danielpbarron: wanted to do this -> !rate irdial -2 UnSavory Garnish [19:38]
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BingoBoingo !up irdial [19:43]
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BingoBoingo [19:51]
assbot Why Bitcoin's Decentralization Matters · BlueMatt's Blog ... ( ) [19:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2831 @ 0.0005033 = 1.4248 BTC [-] {2} [20:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00050943 = 9.6792 BTC [+] [20:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050943 = 1.1717 BTC [+] [20:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050943 = 7.6924 BTC [+] [21:04]
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mircea_popescu !rate irdial 1 new blood [21:10]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: [21:10]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.irdial.1:857be4f2206704b1b9b80f466b11a034fafdce66794f1e3a414e7b592b941e57 [21:10]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for irdial with note: new blood [21:10]
mircea_popescu " While the introduction of the FDIC and similar programs decentralized trust in financial institutions from one party to two, transactions in much of the world do not offer such protections. Even with such programs, individuals are not universally protected from loss across borders and over certain value." [21:15]
mircea_popescu da fuck. [21:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9138 @ 0.00050943 = 4.6552 BTC [+] {3} [21:21]
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thestringpuller how does the FDIC decentralize trust [21:26]
thestringpuller it's like "daddy i got robbed can I have more money plz" "sure honey lemme just start up my printer" [21:26]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [21:27]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 367.62, Best ask: 367.78, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 367.57, 24 hour volume: 128368.49364011, 24 hour low: 357.02, 24 hour high: 428.92, 24 hour vwap: None [21:27]
shinohai MaidSafe: [21:28]
mircea_popescu in fact the fdic centralized banking to an unsanitary degree. [21:28]
assbot ... ( ) [21:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2535 @ 0.00050943 = 1.2914 BTC [+] [21:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00050869 = 8.1645 BTC [-] {3} [21:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33326 @ 0.00050943 = 16.9773 BTC [+] [21:44]
BingoBoingo Anyone want this week's wall street lolz? [21:44]
mircea_popescu lol 35k sold and we're not even at november levels ? this is pitiful. [21:45]
shinohai O.o Bundy supporter arrested! [21:45]
mircea_popescu instacorrections and errything. [21:46]
BingoBoingo shinohai: I gotta go to my Friday meeting soon. Somebody look into and mebbe write it up? [21:46]
shinohai [21:46]
assbot Protester arrested in Burns, accused of driving stolen refuge vehicle | ... ( ) [21:46]
mircea_popescu shinohai wasn't that yesterday ? [21:47]
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mircea_popescu !up locksley [21:52]
-assbot- You voiced locksley for 30 minutes. [21:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00050943 = 9.0679 BTC [+] [21:55]
shinohai first i had seen o f it weird [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3597 @ 0.00050531 = 1.8176 BTC [-] {2} [22:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3003 @ 0.00050478 = 1.5159 BTC [-] [22:01]
BingoBoingo << 6! [22:02]
assbot Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( ) [22:02]
mircea_popescu this is good for bitcoin. [22:07]
mircea_popescu / << how come this wasn't anyway ? [22:09]
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danielpbarron shinohai> MaidSafe: http.. << I met her at porcfest [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00050943 = 5.4509 BTC [+] [22:13]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i left the original format string intact [22:14]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but you can trivially set it to whatever [22:14]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i only see 5 ? [22:14]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: One got rebooted [22:14]
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shinohai lol danielpbarron [22:17]
shinohai sorry I couldn't resist [22:18]
danielpbarron sorry for what? [22:18]
shinohai porkfest? [22:18]
shinohai !s maidsafe [22:19]
assbot 91 results for 'maidsafe' : [22:19]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: To be fair #6 is a ways from sync'ing [22:20]
asciilifeform am i the only one who thinks of... chastity belt, when reads 'maidsafe' [22:20]
BingoBoingo not anymore [22:21]
BingoBoingo brb, meeting [22:21]
mircea_popescu i can't recall wtf that shartup was supposed to be doing anyway [22:21]
mircea_popescu other than getting random derps to self-importantly all over themselves at "conferences" and other pleb gatherings. [22:22]
danielpbarron cloud storage on a blockchain or something [22:22]
asciilifeform the thing-these-supposedly-are is usually an afterthought [22:24]
asciilifeform apparently the mere promise of 'this is the next thing' is sufficient scambait for avaricious idiots [22:24]
asciilifeform (for instance, i still don't really know what neobee supposedly was to have done) [22:25]
asciilifeform but apparently this aspect is not essential.. [22:25]
mircea_popescu brick and mortar!!11 [22:29]
mircea_popescu apparently overhead is now a selling point. somehow. [22:30]
mircea_popescu im sitting here chuckling privately over that roamning mode ssh thing. [22:31]
mircea_popescu fucking lulzy software. [22:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: do we have a name yet ? [22:38]
asciilifeform (though in this case, it is likely to be names - plural) [22:39]
asciilifeform and, the mega-question [22:40]
asciilifeform ... was it one of the numerous scurrying vermin theo allows himself to be surrounded by? [22:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00050454 = 5.449 BTC [-] {3} [22:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14337 @ 0.00050382 = 7.2233 BTC [-] {4} [22:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00050283 = 4.1232 BTC [-] {2} [23:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14732 @ 0.00050682 = 7.4665 BTC [+] {2} [23:12]
mod6 ;;ticker [23:13]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 369.03, Best ask: 369.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 369.1, 24 hour volume: 136230.01105651, 24 hour low: 357.02, 24 hour high: 423.29, 24 hour vwap: None [23:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00050943 = 2.3434 BTC [+] [23:20]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.50000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jul 2016 - [23:23]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - [23:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050942 = 3.1075 BTC [-] [23:35]
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