Forum logs for 15 Jan 2016
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370564 << holy fuck what a snorefest | [00:00] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 01:08:41; BingoBoingo: Looks like I missed https://archive.is/9Kmlb | [00:00] |
asciilifeform | now if only the other vermin heard hearn's 'surrender' and followed him into the sea | [00:01] |
asciilifeform | (do we need a magical flute to make this work ?) | [00:01] |
BingoBoingo | Need magical skin flute | [00:01] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370572 << ~to the merchant.~ (and yes, priced in.) but h is speaking to konsooomers, who 'if i don't see it, it doesn't exist and doesn't possibly affect me' | [00:02] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 01:14:18; mircea_popescu: for one thing, i have yet to see a tx that cost 0.1 btc fixed fee, which is what wires cost. for the other, credit cards are UNIVERSALY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WIRES. | [00:02] |
* | joshbuddy has quit (Quit: joshbuddy) | [00:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00049809 = 3.4119 BTC [-] {2} | [00:16] |
adlai | magic flutes playing funeral marches rival buggywhips as chicken repellent | [00:17] |
asciilifeform | http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sexism_videogames << mega-l0l from BingoBoingo's link | [00:18] |
assbot | Sexism in video games: the solution nobody is talking about. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd4Sxz ) | [00:18] |
adlai | asciilifeform: since when are you reimplementing keyring-aware pgp? | [00:19] |
asciilifeform | since never | [00:19] |
adlai | aiui cardano only needs to know of a single key | [00:19] |
asciilifeform | aha | [00:20] |
asciilifeform | adlai: i think phf was asking about 'p' | [00:20] |
adlai | aha | [00:20] |
asciilifeform | and keyrings are retarded, and will not appear in any form | [00:20] |
* | adlai is reminded of a snide remark made behind the back of an aging warrant officer: "your measure of success in life is inversely proportional to the weight and noise of your keyring" | [00:21] |
asciilifeform | i suppose height of my career was as a penniless student: 1 key | [00:22] |
asciilifeform | (rather than today, 12) | [00:22] |
asciilifeform | http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=apple_store_ban << lulzy re: crapple | [00:23] |
assbot | Confirmed: I'm banned from Apple Stores. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd5vXQ ) | [00:23] |
* | adlai somehow doesn't imagine asciilifeform walking around with 12 cardanos looped into his belt | [00:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00049809 = 2.7395 BTC [-] {2} | [00:27] |
adlai | actual quote from meatwot-pope: "if somebody executes a death warrant against somebody trying to improve bitcoin, i'll fund and execute one against them myself" (don't judge him, he's prone to angry outbursts) | [00:37] |
BingoBoingo | adlai: You might need to luke-jr against that pope | [00:38] |
* | adlai always kept spare earplugs hidden in his 'buggywhip' | [00:40] |
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BingoBoingo | Anyways adlai, my impression that that belt is not where one wears cardano | [00:45] |
adlai | this is why people who wish for success in life don't go into warrant officer carreers, or even avoid .mil altogether | [00:47] |
adlai | !up AdrianG | [00:47] |
* | assbot gives voice to AdrianG | [00:47] |
AdrianG | thx | [00:48] |
* | pete_dushenski (~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685) has joined #bitcoin-assets | [00:49] |
AdrianG | how do i obtain voice on join? | [00:50] |
danielpbarron | !gettrust assbot AdrianG | [00:50] |
assbot | AdrianG is not registered in WoT. | [00:50] |
AdrianG | ? | [00:51] |
BingoBoingo | !help | [00:53] |
assbot | http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot | [00:53] |
BingoBoingo | ^ AdrianG | [00:53] |
danielpbarron | http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets | [00:53] |
assbot | first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o ) | [00:53] |
adlai | in other news, https://i.imgur.com/AYOxr2h.jpg | [00:54] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmCEo9 ) | [00:54] |
adlai | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=13-01-2016#1369311 << incf! | [00:57] |
assbot | Logged on 13-01-2016 17:22:06; ascii_butugychag: http://tryacl2.org << unrelated, but very nifty. | [00:57] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370704 << win | [00:57] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 03:53:09; adlai: in other news, https://i.imgur.com/AYOxr2h.jpg | [00:57] |
adlai | more as a 'lisp for its target audience' than anything else, tbh | [00:57] |
asciilifeform | adlai: it is not a general-purpose lisp at all | [00:58] |
asciilifeform | (implemented on a cl, yes, but is really a specialist tool) | [00:58] |
adlai | this is an excellent infection vector, like how my floss-hating friend now uses gimp | [00:58] |
adlai | (and blender, and linux... he's not yet sold on bitcoin, suffering from a terminal case of fiat-startuptardation) | [01:00] |
* | assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski | [01:01] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: The black hole treatment may have moved on to... me. Several times today restarted home node after finding myself stuck 3 to 14 blocks behind. Just recovered from a 4 hour lag. | [01:02] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: proper blackhole, with the characteristic logz, or plain old lag ? | [01:02] |
AdrianG | !gettrust assbot AdrianG | [01:03] |
assbot | Trust relationship from user assbot to user AdrianG: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=AdrianG | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/AdrianG/ | [01:03] |
BingoBoingo | plain lag it seems so far. Wasn't anticipating so hadn't set up anything looking for it yet. What should I be looking for? | [01:03] |
BingoBoingo | AdrianG: Mebbe introduce yourself? | [01:03] |
AdrianG | ive been reading about this place. | [01:04] |
BingoBoingo | Cool | [01:05] |
BingoBoingo | Just helps if you let people know who your are. For example: I'm BingoBoingo and I'm an alcoholic. | [01:05] |
AdrianG | do you irc drunk too? | [01:06] |
BingoBoingo | Not anymore. Sober a bit less than 3 months nao. | [01:06] |
AdrianG | im mainly interested in crypto tech, all these bitcoins/etc. | [01:07] |
BingoBoingo | I could not do it alone. I had to turn my will and life over to my higher power, Brodin the Allspotter. | [01:08] |
AdrianG | just wanted to idle mainly and see what ppl are talking about, i dont chat that much these days | [01:08] |
AdrianG | lol | [01:08] |
BingoBoingo | Ah | [01:08] |
* | adlai answers AdrianG from pm: self-voicing is for people two steps removed from assbot so no, I can not help you in this regard | [01:08] |
AdrianG | things got more interesting recently with all these blocksizes | [01:08] |
BingoBoingo | AdrianG: It's just hard to get that first rating unless you give people something to judge you by whether it's throwing out ideas in channel here or linking some previous stuff to read. | [01:09] |
adlai | or writing articles for qntra, which is always in need of biased yet accurate coverage of technical news | [01:10] |
pete_dushenski | BingoBoingo: http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/14/they-dont-print-paper-catalogues-anymore-everythings-on-their-website/#comment-38941 | [01:11] |
assbot | “They don’t print paper catalogues anymore, everything’s on their website.” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmFkSW ) | [01:11] |
AdrianG | adlai: you write for qntra? | [01:11] |
adlai | http://qntra.net/author/adlai/ | [01:11] |
assbot | Adlai | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmFoCa ) | [01:11] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Of course you are | [01:12] |
pete_dushenski | of course ? | [01:13] |
pete_dushenski | i play white collar sports goddamit | [01:14] |
pete_dushenski | i wasn't raised in a country barn yknow | [01:14] |
pete_dushenski | mod6: you around ? | [01:15] |
BingoBoingo | I wasn't raised in a barn either, but I can still smell barn when the wind comes from the wrong direction | [01:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00049566 = 3.4696 BTC [-] {2} | [01:15] |
BingoBoingo | Or for most of the month after county fair week. | [01:16] |
* | assbot removes voice from AdrianG | [01:18] |
BingoBoingo | !up AdrianG | [01:18] |
* | assbot gives voice to AdrianG | [01:18] |
AdrianG | http://blog.cryptsy.com/ | [01:19] |
assbot | Cryptsy Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmGjCv ) | [01:19] |
AdrianG | irc trojan in the wallet code, heh. | [01:20] |
mod6 | pete_dushenski: yup, how goes it? | [01:20] |
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pete_dushenski | blame irc for all the world's problems !! | [01:21] |
danielpbarron | !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.AdrianG.1:50fcf710cef58ed3dbf0da8ef386bbe1897c392c11e2731920a14d8803173bc4 | [01:23] |
assbot | Successfully added a rating of 1 for AdrianG with note: Seen him in other channels. | [01:23] |
AdrianG | thx | [01:28] |
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* | julmae (~kamak@s247.ip5.netikka.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets | [01:34] |
adlai | beautiful watching children reinvent the WoT... tearfully reminds one of the early days of forum.bitcoin.com | [01:35] |
adlai | https://archive.is/eqaXs | [01:35] |
assbot | BitcoinX Membership | BitcoinX ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmHUbx ) | [01:35] |
AdrianG | adlai: have you seen keybase? | [01:36] |
adlai | have you seen /r/btc_superclassico? | [01:37] |
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adlai | if you're serving clients javascript pgp implementations, you may have a better career happiness brokering fiat options by telephone | [01:38] |
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adlai | legal in israel, pays in "economic numbers" relative to the salesmen's previous jobs (hocking 'dead sea salt' in your local consumeristemple), rapidly replacing manufacture of arms both small and precise as the nation's primary income stream | [01:39] |
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pete_dushenski | https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=8pmw5CAc3rk | [01:43] |
assbot | Two Visions | Bernie Sanders - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmIV3j ) | [01:43] |
adlai | seeing as AdrianG did not !register in-channel, we now notice that post-gribble asswot has no way of publicly conjuring public-keyring contents | [01:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00049793 = 2.5892 BTC [-] {3} | [01:45] |
ben_vulpes | since sks is on the chopping block next, i imagine !register will eventually eat plaintext pubkeys. | [01:46] |
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* | adlai is looking for !pubkey |
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ben_vulpes | mhm | [01:47] |
adlai | if nothing else, just for verification that what you sent in !register didn't get diddled (assuming assbot itself doesn't use mpex security standard) | [01:48] |
* | adlai wonders where on the chopping block lie replay attack prevention | [01:49] |
* | assbot removes voice from AdrianG | [01:49] |
ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1370091 << fixed, ty | [01:54] |
assbot | Logged on 14-01-2016 14:05:57; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes hey you gotta fix http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html | [01:54] |
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* | adlai can't find the trollbox input field? | [02:02] |
ben_vulpes | keep looking | [02:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3044 @ 0.00049566 = 1.5088 BTC [-] {2} | [02:03] |
* | DreadKnight (~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight) has joined #bitcoin-assets | [02:05] |
adlai | ;;later tell dub re: comment in https://archive.is/aLk6f, you omit the reason why this is an excellent s-pass filter: technical barriers to entry leave low-content photons behind. cf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369512 | [02:06] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [02:06] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTmldc ) | [02:06] |
assbot | Logged on 14-01-2016 00:10:03; mircea_popescu: http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/photons.htm << this thing's a fucking riot. "photon of color" totally makes the whole piece. | [02:06] |
adlai | ben_vulpes re: "not operating a public urinal", tel aviv municipality has begun charging shnekels | [02:08] |
* | adlai notes that mircea_popescu has voluntarily stuffed a gold bar into one of these, which is quite generous of him; once it runs low, it should really be somebody else's turn to jam the meter | [02:10] |
ben_vulpes | danielpbarron: do you still have a copy of trinque's gentooizer? | [02:10] |
adlai | http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/12/25_ann-wotpaste-alpha-oh-and-i-found-another-fucked-up-corner-of-gpg.html#fnr.1 << this is a not-bug-feature in deed^I (ping trinque ), gives the operator lead time in the nickel snatching race | [02:13] |
assbot | [ANN] WOTPASTE Alpha (oh and I found another fucked up corner of GPG...) ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmLvpX ) | [02:13] |
trinque | ben_vulpes: I have it | [02:19] |
ben_vulpes | neato, trinque. i'd love a copy. | [02:20] |
danielpbarron | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1239184 | [02:20] |
assbot | Logged on 15-08-2015 22:32:03; trinque: shinohai: http://deedbot.org/genbootstrap.sh.sig | [02:20] |
trinque | having logs is so great. | [02:21] |
trinque | I mean that as broadly as possible. | [02:21] |
trinque | moreover logs with cryptographically preserved time capsules | [02:22] |
adlai | deed-by-month is the enemy of merkle mountaineering greatness | [02:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4434 @ 0.00049653 = 2.2016 BTC [+] | [02:25] |
adlai | http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/12/21_development-costs-of-user-interface-development-and-mitigating-them-with-clojurescript.html#fn.1 << shit, my business model leaked | [02:25] |
assbot | Development Costs of User Interface Development (and mitigating them with Clojure/Script) ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmMFBY ) | [02:25] |
adlai | ben_vulpes: seen yet? https://www.iit.bme.hu/~salvi/archive/snippets/subdivision-source.html | [02:28] |
pete_dushenski | https://map.what3words.com/ << " what3words has identified every one of the 57 trillion 3mx3m squares on the entire planet with just three, easy to remember, words. Every location on the earth now has a fixed, easily-accessible and memorable address. Unpopulated places have addresses for the first time ever, of course, but now so do heavily populated places like favelas in Brazil where there are no roads or numb | [02:29] |
pete_dushenski | ered houses. Moreover the three word addresses are available not just in English but in French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish and Swedish with more languages on the way. The addresses in other languages are not translations but unique 3 word addresses in those languages." | [02:29] |
adlai | next up, utxo-bloating "global triverb billboard" | [02:32] |
ben_vulpes | one of my favorite parts of addresses is how they indicate relative proximity to someone who knows the map | [02:33] |
ben_vulpes | i don't really see that in 3w | [02:33] |
adlai | you're looking at implementation bugs, the idea is priceless | [02:33] |
adlai | or worthless. or both | [02:33] |
punkman | http://blog.babelmonkeys.de/2014/04/29/data-flow-party.html more gcc fun | [02:34] |
assbot | A little data-flow analysis party trick ... ( http://bit.ly/1UToYvm ) | [02:34] |
trinque | adlai: on my list is having the... urinal as you call it... announce its hunger | [02:39] |
trinque | by god, sometime this month it might even have a fully synced trb to poke too | [02:42] |
trinque | I'm still waiting on your generous donation btw, Anduck | [02:42] |
punkman | notbad alt-deedbot I saw https://bitsig.io/ | [02:44] |
assbot | bitsig - Blockchain Timestamps ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTq4aw ) | [02:44] |
ben_vulpes | re sks thread signed bundles of keys on everyone's websites is probably the best way to go | [02:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4310 @ 0.00049896 = 2.1505 BTC [+] {2} | [02:49] |
adlai | bestgood alt-deedbot is http://cryptograffiti.info/ | [02:53] |
assbot | CryptoGraffiti - Bitcoin blockchain messages as text ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTqWft ) | [02:53] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: re: 3x, that's an excellent point. they really don't take that into account. | [02:54] |
adlai | because it actually does what idiots think it does, and thus minimizes gnashing of teeth | [02:54] |
* | adlai has been studying https://github.com/HugPuddle/Apertus lately, will probably push blockchainfs onto the endless moebius TODO stack, along with utxosetfs | [02:55] |
assbot | GitHub - HugPuddle/Apertus: Apertus - Store data, browse and communicate on your favorite Blockchains. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTr5j4 ) | [02:55] |
adlai | the latter purely to annoy those who don't understand why bloom filters belong in Bitcoin | [02:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2390 @ 0.00050317 = 1.2026 BTC [+] | [03:03] |
adlai | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-12-2015#1341098 << books must be written one prop at a time | [03:06] |
assbot | Logged on 11-12-2015 15:09:13; asciilifeform: adlai: have you considered starting a proper blog ? | [03:06] |
punkman | adlai: how does apertus encode the data? | [03:10] |
adlai | call it an experiment in a new funding model for open source software / pheature poker | [03:10] |
adlai | punkman: unimpressively | [03:10] |
adlai | https://webbtc.com/tx/78f0e6de0ce007f4dd4a09085e649d7e354f70bc7da06d697b167f353f115b8e << spam, spam, fees, spam, utxo bloat, spam | [03:11] |
assbot | Bitcoin BlockBrowser - Transaction Details ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTsHcu ) | [03:11] |
punkman | ben_vulpes: the one with "locality-sensitive-hashing" is http://geohash.org/ | [03:13] |
* | adlai wouldn't blink at a USG imprisonment warrant (and seizure of License to Mine) against such txen | [03:13] |
BingoBoingo | Bundy builds roads https://twitter.com/amandapeacher/status/687837389092331521 | [03:16] |
ben_vulpes | !up punindented | [03:16] |
* | assbot gives voice to punindented | [03:16] |
punindented | tx | [03:17] |
punindented | I'll let this here http://www.spatial-effects.com/urisa/ | [03:17] |
ben_vulpes | dont mention it | [03:17] |
ben_vulpes | dunno that im into geocoding at all nearly so much as legibility | [03:18] |
punindented | well, you can build a hash using that algo and then represent it as you like | [03:19] |
punindented | a mnemonic if you're into that | [03:19] |
punindented | good thing about that algo is larger areas produce shorter hashes | [03:19] |
ben_vulpes | did you catch my point about proximity info embedded in the way things are done traditionally? | [03:20] |
punindented | no, let me check the log | [03:20] |
punindented | relative proximity in terms of radius or direction and distance? | [03:21] |
ben_vulpes | addresses increment from known points, streets are in locations known to natives. addresses encode 'where', legibly. | [03:22] |
* | adlai has rekindled interest in publicurinalfs due to meatpope wanting to immortalize [some arbitrary edition of] {the,his} Bible | [03:22] |
punindented | well, you have a recursive algo as well then, but the epicenter varies right? | [03:22] |
adlai | meatpope, like the other kinds, has rubies to donate, provided it's done in a kosher manner according to satoshivision etc | [03:23] |
ben_vulpes | yes, one must know how to read them. the universality, plus the randomness of hashing completely buries the location signal. | [03:23] |
punindented | what are you building :) | [03:23] |
punkman | https://github.com/google/open-location-code/blob/master/docs/comparison.adoc nice list of geohashes | [03:24] |
assbot | open-location-code/comparison.adoc at master · google/open-location-code · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTtQRf ) | [03:24] |
ben_vulpes | me? nothing, just pointing out features of the way addresses already work. | [03:24] |
punindented | mkay, I have a 'dirty' mind | [03:25] |
ben_vulpes | lol dirty how? | [03:25] |
BingoBoingo | People who really ought to be reading Qntra instead of medium and livejournal https://archive.is/EbFmp | [03:26] |
assbot | Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn want to sabotage Bitcoin on behalf of the US government. - Andrew Auernheimer ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTtY3m ) | [03:26] |
adlai | BingoBoingo: /= read eval print | [03:26] |
BingoBoingo | ? | [03:26] |
* | adlai ... loops | [03:27] |
punindented | geocoding is interesting for allowing interactions in real life, interactions in real life are interesting to build markets, ... | [03:27] |
adlai | it's a lisp joke | [03:27] |
BingoBoingo | eggog <2lsd | [03:27] |
adlai | !s meth-lsd | [03:27] |
assbot | 3 results for 'meth-lsd' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meth-lsd | [03:27] |
* | adlai is a lotus eater and humbles himself before higher powers such as the legends of bias, zeno, jmc, and satoshi | [03:28] |
ben_vulpes | punindented: real life interactions have just about epsilon need of geocoding to proceed | [03:30] |
pete_dushenski | http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/protections-urged-recent-sex-assaults-nyc-cabs-36218847 << lulz. "please, be more like progressive saudi arabia, where wimminz aren't allowed to leave their houses without their chaperones. kthxbye." | [03:31] |
ben_vulpes | but hey, posit a specific case and let's proceed from there | [03:31] |
assbot | NYC Police Boss Urges 'Buddy System' for Women in Cabs - ABC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTuvlT ) | [03:31] |
punindented | what about secure real life transactions | [03:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3565 @ 0.00050366 = 1.7955 BTC [+] {3} | [03:32] |
punindented | between previously unknown people | [03:32] |
ben_vulpes | i bought a car for 6kusd from a man i found on craigslist who...sent me his address. | [03:32] |
ben_vulpes | and yes i took a goon, but who doesn't? | [03:32] |
punindented | haha, well, I wasn't thinking of the second hand vehicle market | [03:33] |
adlai | punindented: the good-enough solution (drops) gets rediscovered on p2p lists quite often these days... yet customers seem to keep using 'evolution' | [03:33] |
ben_vulpes | and yes, the likes of asciilifeform and i gather punindented boggle at the notion of doing h2h's with marginally-known parties with kilobuxx on the barrel | [03:33] |
ben_vulpes | although asciilifeform probably does the sme thing with esoteric computer hardware. how would i know... | [03:34] |
ben_vulpes | o this is the sr thread again? | [03:34] |
adlai | drops are best described not as a coordinate, but using natural language... helps make the system more expensive to game | [03:34] |
adlai | pretty much, unless punindented has something else in mind? | [03:34] |
punindented | nah, let it go | [03:34] |
ben_vulpes | hey, nobody's going to know what you're talking about unless you go so far as to talk about it | [03:35] |
BingoBoingo | What happens when Vox.com makes the guy who was interested in Bitcoin sell https://archive.is/u2Uok | [03:35] |
assbot | Timothy B. Lee on Twitter: "Is Mike Hearn's post here overstating the magnitude of Bitcoin's crisis? https://t.co/qxLqfk9VRR" ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTuRc9 ) | [03:35] |
pete_dushenski | http://www.caranddriver.com/flipbook/12-things-to-know-about-chevrolets-30000-bolt-ev << one for BingoBoingo, the boltmeister. | [03:36] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTuVbS ) | [03:36] |
BingoBoingo | [03:36] | |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: I'm fine watching the bolt ans tesla both suck together | [03:36] |
ben_vulpes | btw BingoBoingo i did not miss the brodin line, chuckled | [03:36] |
ben_vulpes | but are you really that swole yet? | [03:36] |
BingoBoingo | ty ben_vulpes | [03:36] |
pete_dushenski | looks like the vw golf-sized bolt weighs damn near two tons. gooooo environment ! | [03:36] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: Not that swole yet | [03:36] |
pete_dushenski | and lg chem is making the battery for the bolt (but really, who else ?) | [03:37] |
ben_vulpes | pete_dushenski: so is there something wrong with the volt drivetrain that it's not showing up in pickups etc? | [03:37] |
ben_vulpes | it looks like the least stupid thing to come out of the ecomovement from over here | [03:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6001 @ 0.00049817 = 2.9895 BTC [-] {3} | [03:38] |
pete_dushenski | it's more the market demographics | [03:38] |
pete_dushenski | there's pretty well zero overlap between greenies and truck drivers | [03:38] |
ben_vulpes | but that low end torque! | [03:38] |
pete_dushenski | gm tried 'hybrid' pick-ups, sold like 10 of em | [03:38] |
ben_vulpes | nono not the hybrid part, i dgaf abt that. the electric motors with onboard generation. | [03:39] |
pete_dushenski | the thing is, electric cars have to optimise aero. in the gm 'hybrid' pick-ups, the heinous 'aero' front lip spoilers completely negated the ground clearance, and therefore much of the appeal of trucks in the first place | [03:40] |
ben_vulpes | ... | [03:41] |
ben_vulpes | ecoshits aside | [03:41] |
ben_vulpes | oh hm | [03:41] |
ben_vulpes | they cant conceive of unbundling the good idea from the rhetoric. | [03:42] |
pete_dushenski | you want torque, buy a diesel. | [03:42] |
pete_dushenski | diesel makes moar smoak too, moar prestige | [03:43] |
ben_vulpes | too loud. | [03:43] |
pete_dushenski | you're obviously not a pick-up truck buyer | [03:43] |
pete_dushenski | they're 80% for show | [03:43] |
ben_vulpes | electric drivetrain with onboard generation is entirely the way to go. the train people figured this out a looong ime ago; "diesel electric". | [03:44] |
ben_vulpes | pete_dushenski: yes there's clearly something at work other than sanity | [03:44] |
pete_dushenski | yup, "people who shouldn't have money with middling amounts of it" | [03:44] |
ben_vulpes | one of your favorite threads :P | [03:45] |
pete_dushenski | trains also don't accelerate and decelerate as quickly or as frequently | [03:45] |
pete_dushenski | as road vehicles | [03:45] |
ben_vulpes | goodness no, they're designed by smart people to...work efficiently as capital equipment. | [03:45] |
ben_vulpes | fucking interstate highway project. greatest goddamn misstep. | [03:47] |
pete_dushenski | http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2011-chevrolet-tahoe-hybrid-side.jpg << tahoe hybrid, same '2-mode' powertrain as silverado pick-up, same retarded-on-a-stick aero kit | [03:47] |
ben_vulpes | BURN YOUR CAR. | [03:47] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6f88R ) | [03:47] |
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adlai | buy a bike, you'll learn more about trading and addiction from not getting run over than you will from losing money on plebian status symbols | [03:48] |
adlai | better yet, rent one, if you live in a halfway modern metropolis | [03:49] |
pete_dushenski | and skip the helmet | [03:49] |
* | adlai is still waiting for his bus | [03:49] |
* | ben_vulpes has bikes at three houses around town | [03:49] |
ben_vulpes | helmet still recommended if yr gonna play the alleycat | [03:50] |
BingoBoingo | The GM hybrid trucks were far more popular for being portable generators than for their hybrid drive, which almost never actually... drove the trucks | [03:50] |
ben_vulpes | but yeah notrly necessary for the casual pannier derp | [03:50] |
pete_dushenski | what's an alleycat ? | [03:50] |
ben_vulpes | oh ho ho | [03:51] |
pete_dushenski | in cyclist lingo | [03:51] |
ben_vulpes | bike scum shit | [03:51] |
ben_vulpes | "here are ten checkpoints in the metro area. GO!" | [03:51] |
* | adlai would kill [his reputation] for a livable career as a bike messenger | [03:52] |
adlai | excellent way to literally die honoring a contract (or serving a subpoena) | [03:53] |
ben_vulpes | pete_dushenski: are there no bike scum where you live? | [03:53] |
ben_vulpes | tallbikes, gorilla bars, swing-arms? | [03:54] |
pete_dushenski | not really. the potholes and the snow are pretty potent deterrents i guess | [03:54] |
pete_dushenski | if there are, they're few and far between | [03:54] |
ben_vulpes | shame | [03:55] |
pete_dushenski | lol | [03:55] |
ben_vulpes | you should see pedalpalooza | [03:56] |
ben_vulpes | adlai: might enjoy it | [03:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00049566 = 2.4287 BTC [-] {2} | [03:57] |
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punkman | https://www.flexport.com/blog/amazon-ocean-freight-forwarder/ | [04:05] |
assbot | Amazon Has Just Registered to Sell Ocean Freight ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6g5hz ) | [04:05] |
ben_vulpes | lol | [04:10] |
ben_vulpes | i can see them snapping up a mess of freighters at rock bottom prices as the bdi keeps collapsing | [04:11] |
ben_vulpes | "But the idea of buying ocean freight is far less appealing for U.S. companies selling on the Amazon Marketplace. " << you don't fucking say i'm pretty sure i learned during the alcoa saga that nobody exports from the states any more | [04:12] |
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ben_vulpes | wow 40-footers going for 1.3k from shenzen to la | [04:14] |
ben_vulpes | betcha you can keep the box too | [04:14] |
ben_vulpes | ;;8377.5 * 0.24 | [04:16] |
gribble | Error: "8377.5" is not a valid command. | [04:16] |
ben_vulpes | ;;calc 8377.5 * 0.24 | [04:16] |
gribble | 2010.6 | [04:16] |
ben_vulpes | ahaha man if they're letting you keep the container you might even be able to make a profit just selling the empty boxes for scrap | [04:16] |
ben_vulpes | wait that's stainless | [04:17] |
ben_vulpes | :( | [04:17] |
ben_vulpes | anyways, it's not amazon, it's amazon cn, and they're not buying boats, they're operating as a freight forwarder. | [04:18] |
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Atomicat | ;;up Transisto2 | [04:22] |
gribble | Error: "up" is not a valid command. | [04:22] |
Atomicat | !up Transisto2 | [04:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00050603 = 1.3916 BTC [+] {2} | [04:23] |
Atomicat | Transisto2: Hi | [04:23] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2847 @ 0.00050144 = 1.4276 BTC [-] {2} | [04:37] |
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ben_vulpes | ;;sell 1000 | [04:54] |
gribble | (sell |
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ben_vulpes | ;;market sell 1000 | [04:54] |
gribble | Bitfinex | A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 405869.8939 USD and would take the last price down to 404.7000 USD, resulting in an average price of 405.8699 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0048 seconds | [04:54] |
ben_vulpes | ;;market sell 2000 | [04:54] |
gribble | Bitfinex | A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 809373.3715 USD and would take the last price down to 403.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 404.6867 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 10.3600 seconds | [04:54] |
ben_vulpes | ;;market sell 5000 | [04:54] |
gribble | Bitfinex | A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 2012068.3060 USD and would take the last price down to 399.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 402.4137 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 18.6682 seconds | [04:54] |
ben_vulpes | ;;market sell 10000 | [04:54] |
gribble | Bitfinex | A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 3922378.5897 USD and would take the last price down to 362.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 392.2379 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 28.1804 seconds | [04:54] |
ben_vulpes | ;;market sell 100000 | [04:55] |
gribble | Bitfinex | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7221905.5597 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0010 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.2191 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 43.9365 seconds | [04:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6907 @ 0.00050849 = 3.5121 BTC [+] {3} | [04:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00050999 = 1.224 BTC [+] | [05:03] |
jurov | ben_vulpes yay. it does not account for encoding, as seen in view-source:http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/f3e6ddef-9c00-43d9-ab4f-3d02d64409f4/?raw=true | [05:10] |
jurov | also, if there will ever be need for clearsigned-only service, ask me to make new mailing list next to btc-dev (and unlike deedbot, it allows attachments, too) | [05:11] |
jurov | with great sadness i have to announce that now it does not even mutilate filenames | [05:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00050999 = 1.8105 BTC [+] | [05:18] |
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ben_vulpes | to the extent it was designed, it was designed to eat ascii. | [05:39] |
ben_vulpes | what would you expect to see there? | [05:40] |
jurov | when submitting form, browser sends along the encoding. | [05:46] |
jurov | not a biggie to send it back, even slap the http header to raw text (text/plain;charset="$charset") | [05:47] |
ben_vulpes | browser also submits | [05:49] |
ben_vulpes | r | [05:49] |
ben_vulpes | for every newline | [05:49] |
ben_vulpes | but sure | [05:49] |
ben_vulpes | i can almost guarantee that i am not catching encodings right now | [05:50] |
adlai | ;;nethash | [05:57] |
gribble | 770518178.742 | [05:57] |
adlai | where'd it all go? did mickey sell his miners too? | [05:57] |
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assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 06:04:24; adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-12-2015#1341098 << books must be written one prop at a time | [05:59] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6p5Du ) | [05:59] |
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adlai | in other tweets, https://twitter.com/ProBirdRights/status/687837368204668929 | [06:32] |
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punkman | http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/01/14/nhtsa-detroit-auto-show-autonomous-vehicles/78792868/ | [07:02] |
assbot | Obama administration ready to put $4B toward self-driving cars ... ( http://bit.ly/1Om1OMD ) | [07:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00050999 = 1.1291 BTC [+] | [07:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5621 @ 0.00050999 = 2.8667 BTC [+] | [07:20] |
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mircea_popescu | fresh from the... cupines. "I'm obese, but you are hilarious!" | [07:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7314 @ 0.00050608 = 3.7015 BTC [-] {3} | [07:36] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370649 << you are very much correct, upon meditation. mike hearn is pretty much the amir taaki of 2014-2015. | [07:39] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 01:52:40; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yes, but I can only ever name one at a time and never specify and ordering lest I jinx the list. This is still feeling now like an alt universe version of 2012-2013 | [07:39] |
mircea_popescu | as a sign of bitcoin's progress in the intervening coupla years, the amir taaki v2.0 can marginally spell, and in a very flat, vulgar manner express himself in writing. | [07:40] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370666 << more like a magical dildo. | [07:45] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 02:59:31; asciilifeform: (do we need a magical flute to make this work ?) | [07:45] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370672 << omfg bb got credited with maddox111! | [07:47] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 03:16:57; asciilifeform: http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sexism_videogames << mega-l0l from BingoBoingo's link | [07:49] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370682 << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carrying around a fucking pile of tiny l | [07:52] |
mircea_popescu | ittle almost-identical keys. | [07:52] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 03:20:29; asciilifeform: i suppose height of my career was as a penniless student: 1 key | [07:52] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370688 << herpitty derp, maybe at some point idjit in question learns what the key feature of CRYPTOworld is. | [07:53] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 03:35:18; adlai: actual quote from meatwot-pope: "if somebody executes a death warrant against somebody trying to improve bitcoin, i'll fund and execute one against them myself" (don't judge him, he's prone to angry outbursts) | [07:53] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370692 << i would much prefer a good warrant officer in a career of warrant officer than fucking around the internets trying to "find [the true] himself" because his delusions of success make it look like anything other than BEING GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO. | [07:55] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 03:45:33; adlai: this is why people who wish for success in life don't go into warrant officer carreers, or even avoid .mil altogether | [07:55] |
mircea_popescu | i've known tramps more successful in life than the sort of pointless idiots that come out of "ivy league". | [07:56] |
mircea_popescu | this because the tramps were tramps, whereas pressed shit doth not intellectual makes. | [07:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00050999 = 3.5189 BTC [+] | [08:01] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370727 << is this Carolyn Burnham's archnemesis ? | [08:03] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 04:06:12; BingoBoingo: I could not do it alone. I had to turn my will and life over to my higher power, Brodin the Allspotter. | [08:03] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370732 << "overnight success usually takes 20 years" or how did that go. | [08:04] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 04:07:00; AdrianG: things got more interesting recently with all these blocksizes | [08:04] |
mircea_popescu | "The decision was made to pull from our profits to fill these wallets back up over time, thus attempting to avert complete closure of the website at that time. " | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | oh i see. | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370766 << btcalpha will have it tomorrow. | [08:13] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 04:42:22; adlai: seeing as AdrianG did not !register in-channel, we now notice that post-gribble asswot has no way of publicly conjuring public-keyring contents | [08:13] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370778 << do not put comas after urls. | [08:14] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 05:04:19; adlai: ;;later tell dub re: comment in https://archive.is/aLk6f, you omit the reason why this is an excellent s-pass filter: technical barriers to entry leave low-content photons behind. cf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369512 | [08:14] |
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mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes Do so (this is not a GPG guide), << Do so (GPG guide), ? | [08:29] |
mircea_popescu | hehe check that out, dub got repelled by the antiuniversalist nature of the new democracy. turns out he was right : the citostatic has prevented tumours (doublespoken as "the channel") from growing. it has however not prevented the list of our accomplishments from growing, which was exactly the fucking point. we don't want more people, and we sure as fuck don't want "all the people". we just want a larger share of ever | [08:33] |
mircea_popescu | ything good to flow to ~these~ people, and for it to constantly enlarge. that is all. | [08:33] |
mircea_popescu | universalism is for nematodes. | [08:33] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes "Updated: 1/14/2014" << are you from the past ? | [08:34] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370800 << this is actually not a bad application of the dicelist. course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets. | [08:42] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 05:27:50; pete_dushenski: ered houses. Moreover the three word addresses are available not just in English but in French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish and Swedish with more languages on the way. The addresses in other languages are not translations but unique 3 word addresses in those languages." | [08:42] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370802 << yes but they don't want that, because much like everything else spawned by usg, they want you to need them. | [08:42] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 05:31:25; ben_vulpes: one of my favorite parts of addresses is how they indicate relative proximity to someone who knows the map | [08:42] |
mircea_popescu | think dns, if getting other websites i like would be as easy as adding 1 to "trilema.com"... | [08:43] |
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mircea_popescu | but of course you can't SIMPLY ADD STRINGS NUMERICALLY right ? :D | [08:43] |
punkman | course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets. << their android sdk has all the data/code needed to run your own actually | [08:51] |
mircea_popescu | there is exactly 0 possibility that one tries to heysteve and is not rentseeking. | [08:52] |
mircea_popescu | strictly the only reason you might try to name things you don't own is your hope to steal a little. | [08:53] |
mircea_popescu | which is why your parents calling you joe is a fundamentally different activity from the girl at the bar saying "hey stud" or the dudes threatened thereby going "hey loser". | [08:53] |
punkman | myeah disregard my comment "Our goal is for what3words to become a global standard for communicating location. At the moment, the core what3words algorithms and data are not in the public domain. In the future, we may release some or all of our source code – we will continually evaluate the business case for doing this." | [08:57] |
mircea_popescu | heh | [08:58] |
mircea_popescu | the "business case", right ? | [08:58] |
mircea_popescu | like google's been evaluating the "business case" for not being evil. | [08:59] |
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mircea_popescu | timothy b lee > wants to write about bitcoin > is not in #bitcoin-assets >wonders why he can't make sense of anything. | [09:07] |
mircea_popescu | gg jurnos! | [09:07] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370901 << yeah srsly. there's a fucking reason there's diesel-electric train engines. | [09:09] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 06:37:05; ben_vulpes: but that low end torque! | [09:09] |
shinohai | ;;blocks | [09:10] |
gribble | 393413 | [09:10] |
mircea_popescu | for applications where the low end of the torque curve is what pays the bills, it is actually worth to generate electricity and run an electric engine rather than run a straight combustion engine arrangement | [09:10] |
shinohai | I am at 391667 finally | [09:10] |
mircea_popescu | but try and explain it to the ustardian weabos that they are solving an imagined problem with the exactly anti-adequate tools. | [09:10] |
mircea_popescu | heh almost there shinohai wd. | [09:10] |
shinohai | patience | [09:11] |
shinohai | Mine hath been tested. | [09:12] |
mircea_popescu | how long did this take ? | [09:12] |
shinohai | 3 months? Running for first time with -verifyall | [09:12] |
mircea_popescu | my 3 week old node is at 332425 | [09:14] |
shinohai | I dunno mod6 told me it was normal | [09:14] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, it is. this is a slightly beefier machine | [09:15] |
shinohai | So i just let it chug along. It's running on a shitty board tbh | [09:15] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370904 << in truth, engine miniaturization has proceeded to the point where this product would be marketable : a 4x4 "true" SUV with a pick-up truck option that has a 2-3 liter gasoline engine with a gpl add-on (so you can run it either on full gasoline, or do gasoline starting and run on gas) that autoswitches from powering the drive train to powering an electric engine | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | to power the drive train function of torque draw. and just for the marketing, put optional TRACK kit on the list. | [09:18] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 06:38:58; pete_dushenski: the thing is, electric cars have to optimise aero. in the gm 'hybrid' pick-ups, the heinous 'aero' front lip spoilers completely negated the ground clearance, and therefore much of the appeal of trucks in the first place | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | make it 3-4 tons, damned thing could pretty much climb straight up a wall. | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | definitely could pull a us-style house. | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | there clearly exists a market for $100k cars, and this wouldn't take that to make. | [09:18] |
shinohai | !s http://gk2.sk/lets-build-a-freedom-node/ | [09:19] |
assbot | Let's build a Freedom Node · Pavol Rusnak ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMYVFO ) | [09:19] |
assbot | 2 results for 'http://gk2.sk/lets-build-a-freedom-node/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fgk2.sk%2Flets-build-a-freedom-node%2F | [09:19] |
mircea_popescu | bring back hardened steel bodies, etc. | [09:19] |
shinohai | oh yeah searched that already | [09:19] |
shinohai | ^ advocates running XT, Tor | [09:20] |
mircea_popescu | have all the good ads for it : take it to a skating rink, pour water up to the axles, watch it freeze, then climb, ignition and just go. | [09:20] |
mircea_popescu | shinohai just tell the guy to come hiar. | [09:21] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370921 << they "had to get the economy out of the slump". and so they... TARP'd the whole country. | [09:23] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 06:45:30; ben_vulpes: fucking interstate highway project. greatest goddamn misstep. | [09:23] |
mircea_popescu | to bureaucrat's credit, it must be pointed out that this time around they learned from those mistakes of the past and DIDNT spend on infrastructure. just gave the money off to the banks free and clear. | [09:23] |
mircea_popescu | of course, to their discredit they still didn't figure out what the COMPLETE correction to their existence is. just went from "doing something stupid" to "not doing anything". the "how about you stop existing at all" thing is too hard. | [09:24] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370931 << word. i never gave a shit about the entire http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/ "boats are the place" bullshit. | [09:25] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 06:48:31; BingoBoingo: The GM hybrid trucks were far more popular for being portable generators than for their hybrid drive, which almost never actually... drove the trucks | [09:25] |
assbot | NSFW Gradina Edenului on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UUbpvI ) | [09:25] |
mircea_popescu | then one day power was out and suddenly... "wait, isn't that 240 HP engine backed by a full electric generator ? that could do up to 240 HP aka 180 kW ? | [09:26] |
mircea_popescu | (in the end it could only do about 110, but that's... still enough) | [09:27] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370954 << they export plenty, all through twitter &c | [09:30] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 07:10:57; ben_vulpes: "But the idea of buying ocean freight is far less appealing for U.S. companies selling on the Amazon Marketplace. " << you don't fucking say i'm pretty sure i learned during the alcoa saga that nobody exports from the states any more | [09:30] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370965 << and it's not a news site, it's radio erevan. | [09:31] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 07:17:12; ben_vulpes: anyways, it's not amazon, it's amazon cn, and they're not buying boats, they're operating as a freight forwarder. | [09:31] |
mircea_popescu | ;;nethash | [09:32] |
gribble | 765883451.143 | [09:32] |
mircea_popescu | lol aww | [09:32] |
mircea_popescu | we're going to see a negative correction here for fucking once. | [09:33] |
mircea_popescu | ;;bc,stats | [09:33] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 393414 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1721 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 15 hours, 48 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [09:33] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00050415 = 2.1174 BTC [-] {2} | [10:51] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00050943 = 1.6302 BTC [+] {2} | [11:01] |
thestringpuller | interesting rumor I heard. Gavin when teaming up with the Toomim's told them "who the opposition really was" and they want a #b-a blessing now..."convince the opposition" | [11:04] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050942 = 1.5283 BTC [-] {2} | [11:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050299 = 3.0682 BTC [-] {4} | [11:32] |
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shinohai | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371111 <<< a truce? | [11:39] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 14:02:23; thestringpuller: interesting rumor I heard. Gavin when teaming up with the Toomim's told them "who the opposition really was" and they want a #b-a blessing now..."convince the opposition" | [11:39] |
davout | mircea_popescu: plz to x.eur | [11:40] |
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pete_dushenski | ;;ticker | [11:42] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 390.92, Best ask: 390.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 390.83, 24 hour volume: 73577.19043617, 24 hour low: 385.03, 24 hour high: 432.57, 24 hour vwap: None | [11:42] |
pete_dushenski | -10% overnight eh | [11:42] |
pete_dushenski | must be all the block size controversy | [11:43] |
pete_dushenski | "mass adoption will never happen without consensus u guise !!!1" | [11:43] |
d9b4bef9 | danielpbarron davout dbclk diametric diana_coman dignork donpillou dooglus dub | [11:43] |
mircea_popescu | on it davout | [11:43] |
pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1370438 << never forget ryan selkis >> http://www.contravex.com/2014/05/16/who-sucks-more-circle-or-twobitidiot/ | [11:44] |
assbot | Logged on 14-01-2016 21:56:37; mircea_popescu: anyone remember "twobitidiot" ? no, because today it's "toomim brothers". bla bla, whatevs. | [11:44] |
assbot | Who Sucks More, Circle or TwoBitIdiot? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2PktT ) | [11:44] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski eh, teh usg herps will try and as per usual fail to enact their mattering in the history of the world as recorded by its current sovereign, bitcoin. | [11:44] |
pete_dushenski | quite so. | [11:45] |
pete_dushenski | in other nyooz, 5 trb v99999 nodez !, https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 | [11:45] |
assbot | Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeJp6j ) | [11:45] |
pete_dushenski | ^includes, yes, tevye | [11:46] |
pete_dushenski | cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches ! | [11:47] |
pete_dushenski | tevye's currently cruising at 18 connex while using ~350 mb memory. this is down from 50+ connex and 2 gb memory | [11:48] |
shinohai | O.o | [11:49] |
mircea_popescu | nice. | [11:51] |
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pete_dushenski | "Dow briefly plunges 400 points after data, oil rout" << looks like it's 'sell the farm' day. wti under $30 too. | [11:59] |
mircea_popescu | sell the farm to buy what ? | [12:00] |
pete_dushenski | magic beans, just like jack. | [12:00] |
mircea_popescu | aok | [12:01] |
pete_dushenski | or mebbe pay off loans before yellen cranks the pain plan ratchet again ? | [12:02] |
pete_dushenski | obligatory pain plan piece : http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/10/inb4-the-pain-plan/ | [12:03] |
assbot | Inb4 the pain plan. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2Shuk ) | [12:03] |
pete_dushenski | "General Electric Co said it would sell its appliance business to China's Haier Group for $5.4 billion in cash, another step in its push to sell its non-core assets and project itself as a technology company." << here's where the chinese money is going. | [12:04] |
mircea_popescu | non core, right. | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | GM Classic. | [12:05] |
pete_dushenski | "The deal comes weeks after GE walked away from a deal to sell the business to Sweden's Electrolux for $3.3 billion, following months of opposition from U.S. antitrust regulators." << "we chineese, we no kaya hao much amewikan beezneez cost. we want buy nao !" | [12:05] |
pete_dushenski | "For Haier, the deal means ownership of a century-old appliance business that makes refrigerators, freezers, clothes washers and dryers across brands such as Monogram, Café, Profile and Artistry. The business trails only Whirlpool Corp in the U.S. white goods market and reported revenue of $5.9 billion last year." << mega-non-core. | [12:06] |
mircea_popescu | davout http://dpaste.com/1C0H70B | [12:09] |
assbot | dpaste: 1C0H70B ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2TgL8 ) | [12:09] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski the truth is that "butterism" or however you say in english the chinese concept equivalent to the mexican "malinchismo" ensures that a chinese corp is in the best position to make money from otherwise defunct us brands. | [12:11] |
mod6 | <+pete_dushenski> cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches ! << glad you got it working, Sir. =] | [12:13] |
mircea_popescu | ain't mod6 a total pleasure to work with ? | [12:13] |
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mod6 | awe, thx! | [12:14] |
mod6 | PeterL: Hey, glad you got it resolved! | [12:14] |
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mircea_popescu | !up ascii_butugychag | [12:15] |
-assbot- | You voiced ascii_butugychag for 30 minutes. | [12:15] |
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pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: that he is indeed | [12:16] |
pete_dushenski | !s butterism | [12:16] |
assbot | 0 results for 'butterism' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=butterism | [12:16] |
pete_dushenski | !s malinchismo | [12:16] |
assbot | 0 results for 'malinchismo' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=malinchismo | [12:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 0.42679334 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 8 satoshi per share | [12:16] |
mircea_popescu | dee | [12:17] |
pete_dushenski | those are new terms for me too | [12:17] |
mircea_popescu | hmm no deedbot ? trinque ? :) | [12:17] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371145 << Nothing Sucks Like Electrolux! (tm) (r) (actual) | [12:17] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 15:04:10; pete_dushenski: "The deal comes weeks after GE walked away from a deal to sell the business to Sweden's Electrolux for $3.3 billion, following months of opposition from U.S. antitrust regulators." << "we chineese, we no kaya hao much amewikan beezneez cost. we want buy nao !" | [12:17] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski they reference the smell of butter of people who eat in the western fashion | [12:17] |
mircea_popescu | as milk products are virtually unknown in the mud eating empire. | [12:17] |
pete_dushenski | funny | [12:20] |
pete_dushenski | bbias | [12:20] |
ascii_butugychag | l0ltr0nic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10902008 (subthread) | [12:21] |
assbot | theo must be mad. | [12:21] |
mircea_popescu | anyway. every slut eventually reaches that sad zenith point so aptly described by the celebrated Elvira Bulumac : http://trilema.com/2012/literatura-la-prima-ora-sau-capitolul-i/#selection-59.1-59.20 | [12:22] |
assbot | Literatura la prima ora, sau Capitolul I on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2Vom7 ) | [12:22] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag why am i reading "sfjulie" ? | [12:24] |
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thestringpuller | !up pete_dushenski | [12:24] |
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trinque | mircea_popescu: thanks! | [12:24] |
thestringpuller | !up PeterL | [12:24] |
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mircea_popescu | the woman has no idea what she's talking about nor any appreciation of what having an idea even is or why'd it be desirable. | [12:24] |
ascii_butugychag | linked for entomological reasons | [12:24] |
mircea_popescu | deedbot- http://dpaste.com/07ZM70V | [12:25] |
deedbot- | Bad URL or network outage. | [12:25] |
ascii_butugychag | something like mircea_popescu's specimens from okc | [12:25] |
assbot | dpaste: 07ZM70V ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2VPwS ) | [12:25] |
mircea_popescu | deedbot- http://dpaste.com/07ZM70V.txt | [12:25] |
deedbot- | accepted: 1 | [12:25] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2VOc0 ) | [12:25] |
mircea_popescu | ic. | [12:25] |
mod6 | <+mod6> PeterL: Hey, glad you got it resolved! << should have put this in a later tell, sorry. | [12:27] |
d9b4bef9 | danielpbarron davout deedbot- diametric diana_coman dignork donpillou dooglus dub | [12:29] |
mircea_popescu | deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1JCZHZY.txt | [12:29] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2WvCd ) | [12:29] |
deedbot- | accepted: 1 | [12:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 146.34965138 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 29 satoshi per share | [12:30] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371101 << l0lz!! am i the only one who gets this ref | [12:30] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 12:29:30; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370965 << and it's not a news site, it's radio erevan. | [12:30] |
ascii_butugychag | maybe phf too. | [12:30] |
ascii_butugychag | and hey what happened to the other orks ? dignork ? | [12:30] |
mircea_popescu | they were sold to the chinese conglomerate lusski for 5.5 bn. | [12:31] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371097 << hitler's yacht was a diesel-electric thing and was taken as a spoil; after the war, it powered a good chunk of odessa, for a while, iirc | [12:32] |
mircea_popescu | can fit a lotta 20w lightbulbs in 100kw | [12:33] |
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ascii_butugychag | aha | [12:33] |
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ascii_butugychag | re: other nazi yachts, lulzy oldie, http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/hitlers-toilet-found-car-repair-3019052 | [12:37] |
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punkman | Radio Yerevan was asked: "Is it true that the poet Vladimir Mayakovsky committed suicide?" Radio Yerevan answered: "Yes, it is true, and even the record of his very last words is preserved: "Don't shoot, comrades."" | [12:42] |
ascii_butugychag | https://threatpost.com/questions-linger-as-juniper-removes-backdoored-dual_ec-rng/115849 << moar comedy | [12:42] |
mircea_popescu | in lighter news, if anyone is looking to gangbang a seattle burlesque dancer, now open to public requests : https://www.okcupid.com/profile/TabbyTwins | [12:43] |
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ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371081 << the market for $100K ~turkey-dollar~ cars is very small. | [12:46] |
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mircea_popescu | this may well be. | [12:46] |
ascii_butugychag | hence no steel body. | [12:46] |
mircea_popescu | you can't really put a real engine in the composite shits. | [12:47] |
mircea_popescu | especially not one with good torque. | [12:47] |
ascii_butugychag | eh sure you can, frame is steel even in a trabant | [12:47] |
mircea_popescu | reasons should be obvious, but if not let us just say that... thermodynamics proposes, kinetics disposes. | [12:47] |
deedbot- | [fr.anco.is] X.EUR January 15th 2016 statement - http://fr.anco.is/2016/x-eur-january-15th-2016-statement/ | [12:48] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag from what i understand, the trend towards smaller cylinders & less power (aka "fuel efficiency") as well as much more expensively machined parts (less noise, aka less w&t) is simply because otherwise the steel frame simply grinds the rest into paste too soon for what the market may still tolerate | [12:48] |
mircea_popescu | people still expect their new car to work for a few years as opposed to 25k miles. | [12:49] |
ascii_butugychag | actually there are some very surprising new kinds of rot - engine computer that fails, with mysteriously corrupted firmware, after 2-3 yrs, and is replaced - while supplies last - with identical crud; etc | [12:50] |
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mircea_popescu | neways. | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | i haven't seen a new car model i liked in 20 years. | [12:50] |
ascii_butugychag | !s the best car | [12:51] |
assbot | 8 results for 'the best car' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+best+car | [12:51] |
ascii_butugychag | (is... staying home) | [12:51] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371082 << the lulzy bit is that i have a node going on EXACTLY THAT machine | [12:51] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 12:17:16; shinohai: !s http://gk2.sk/lets-build-a-freedom-node/ | [12:51] |
ascii_butugychag | it is starvation-cheap, for a fanless pentium thing, and mostly runs | [12:52] |
shinohai | so it wouldn't be a waste of money to buy one for node purposes | [12:53] |
ascii_butugychag | i don't recommend it | [12:53] |
ascii_butugychag | 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower | [12:53] |
ascii_butugychag | and you can put linuxbios on it | [12:53] |
ascii_butugychag | unlike the intel turd | [12:53] |
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ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371072 << this is probably not surprising to anyone who's been paying attention, but a trb node that isn't up to current height won't relay any tx that involves blocks not yet seen | [12:55] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 12:12:28; mircea_popescu: my 3 week old node is at 332425 | [12:55] |
ascii_butugychag | this is not a bug. | [12:55] |
ascii_butugychag | but it does mean that a trb node is largely useless until fully synced. | [12:56] |
thestringpuller | LOL. Coinbase exhcange pulls a Gox due to volatility! | [12:57] |
ascii_butugychag | wai wut | [12:57] |
mircea_popescu | ie "we were trading while insolvent, which is a crime, except for usg agencies" | [12:57] |
thestringpuller | "oinbase Exchange is currently experiencing an outage, we are investigating and hope to have it back online soon." << They say it's "technical diffculties" either way, the exchange went down due to high volume trading. | [12:58] |
thestringpuller | straight up Gox. | [12:58] |
ascii_butugychag | ;;goxlag | [12:58] |
gribble | Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command. | [12:58] |
ascii_butugychag | l0l | [12:58] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371044 << reminds me, more than anything, of... urbit | [12:59] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 11:40:24; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370800 << this is actually not a bad application of the dicelist. course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets. | [12:59] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371052 << largely yes. though i can thing of, e.g., astronomers naming comets, etc | [13:01] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 11:51:17; mircea_popescu: strictly the only reason you might try to name things you don't own is your hope to steal a little. | [13:01] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, right. to quote : "E, se Vostra Magnificenzia dallo apice della sua altezza qualche volta volgerà li occhi in questi luoghi bassi, conoscerà quanto io indegnamente sopporti una grande e continua malignità di fortuna." | [13:02] |
mircea_popescu | from http://trilema.com/2010/cartile-au-murit/#selection-59.0-59.197 which did you ever read btw ? | [13:03] |
assbot | Cartile au murit, on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1n0JBL8 ) | [13:03] |
ascii_butugychag | lulzily, unrelatedly, i warmed up engine at the crack of dawn, to head to the trains, and turned on radio, '...france demands regulation of terrorist finances, such as the use of virtual currencies, such as bitcoins...' | [13:03] |
mircea_popescu | herp derp. | [13:04] |
mircea_popescu | fat child rapist put his hand in an old pillow and is now talking to himself ? fu bahamas. | [13:04] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370988 << congrats jurov ! | [13:07] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 08:10:56; jurov: with great sadness i have to announce that now it does not even mutilate filenames | [13:07] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370878 << from the total and utter lack of anything like a wot marketplace for any thing i use whatsoever, i am stuck in heathendom (e.g., 'ebay') entirely | [13:10] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 06:32:19; ben_vulpes: although asciilifeform probably does the sme thing with esoteric computer hardware. how would i know... | [13:10] |
ascii_butugychag | this was discussed on multiple occasions. | [13:10] |
ascii_butugychag | many times i tried to buy something via otc, it was a sad joke every time | [13:10] |
mircea_popescu | sadly. | [13:12] |
ascii_butugychag | which is interesting, because - before there even was 'ebay' - as a kid, i would buy/sell exotic hardware via usenet | [13:13] |
ascii_butugychag | and there were takers | [13:13] |
ascii_butugychag | whereas today, what little remains is corralled | [13:13] |
thestringpuller | OTC devolved into madness pretty quickly. Paranoid everyone is a scammer. | [13:13] |
thestringpuller | albeit the birthplace of the WoT | [13:14] |
mircea_popescu | heh. to quote, "This is stupid way to adjust SNR for a few reasons not least that it is already solved in the IRC protocol. Chanops are a group of people the founder trusts sufficiently to regulate the conversation, deal with bad actors and operate the channel in the manner he intends. Kind of like a web of trust without the numerous failures this bullshit introduces. Default deny will prevent the channel from growing, | [13:14] |
mircea_popescu | will not deflect a motivated attack, while adding a handful of SPOFs, risks and annoyance." | [13:14] |
mircea_popescu | clearly the stupid model worked. | [13:14] |
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ascii_butugychag | where was this | [13:15] |
mircea_popescu | not only it created powerful with a view to almighty enemies for the "well intentioned" idiots engaging in that nonsense, but also it... fell over, burned and then sunk into the swamp. | [13:15] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html | [13:15] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ok73wh ) | [13:15] |
ascii_butugychag | wtf is a 'SPOF' | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | single point of failure. | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | as if. | [13:16] |
pete_dushenski | huh. logs are missing everything from "re: other nazi yachts, lulzy oldie" to "while supplies last - with identical crud; etc" | [13:16] |
ascii_butugychag | assbot was out | [13:16] |
pete_dushenski | so he was | [13:16] |
ascii_butugychag | who was dub anyway | [13:18] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: you can't really put a real engine in the composite shits. << what "composite shits" are these ? most high-end cars have carbon-fibre tubs and 600hp+ turbocharged engines with 500lb ft+ of torque | [13:18] |
pete_dushenski | seem to hold us quite nicely in fact | [13:18] |
pete_dushenski | pagani even has proprietary titanium-reinforced carbon fibre. very nifty. | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | how much does a 600hp turbocharged engine wiht 500lb ft of torque cost ? | [13:20] |
pete_dushenski | probably 50-70k | [13:20] |
pete_dushenski | as part of a 300k car | [13:20] |
ascii_butugychag | why not also include the cost of the law school tuition and the whores | [13:21] |
pete_dushenski | you can buy such power from "domestics" for 20-30k | [13:21] |
ascii_butugychag | engine per se is prolly south of 10k | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | so 300k car. what happens if i attach that 300k car to a street pole and go ful lthrothle in the ist ? | [13:21] |
pete_dushenski | probably wheel spin | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | right. so the idea was that you could market a 100k real suv/pick up with 4k lbft torque, which if so attached would pull the light out and drag it with two yards' worth of sidewalk and the parked cars. | [13:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00050189 = 1.9513 BTC [-] | [13:22] |
mircea_popescu | and in spite of being able to pull train cars / tanks / your house, iut would still do ok on the freeway. | [13:22] |
ascii_butugychag | mircea_popescu: these exist, are called bulldozer ? | [13:23] |
mircea_popescu | bulldozer is straight. this would be electric. | [13:23] |
ascii_butugychag | large mining trucks and bulldozers are presently diesel-electric | [13:23] |
ascii_butugychag | we even had'em in su | [13:23] |
mircea_popescu | exacflty my fucking point omfg! | [13:23] |
ascii_butugychag | aha, ancient tech | [13:23] |
ascii_butugychag | but the CORRECT way to do these is to throw out the transmission box and have 1 electric motor per wheel. | [13:26] |
ascii_butugychag | (you win on efficiency, cost, and also get the regenerative brake thing) | [13:26] |
ascii_butugychag | but, to borrow an uncleal-ism, 'But It Would Be Wrong' | [13:27] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370918 << ever since dc metro put in human drivers again into most of the trains, the thing brakes 10 times, lurches, nauseating | [13:28] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 06:43:30; pete_dushenski: trains also don't accelerate and decelerate as quickly or as frequently | [13:28] |
mircea_popescu | i have no idea what the correct way would be, but i envisaged an auto-transfer arrangement, where the engine powers the drive train except if torque pull gets too strong in which case it kicks off and electric engine takes over | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | they'd have to basically be pooled and work together | [13:30] |
ascii_butugychag | nah that's what they do ~now~ | [13:30] |
ascii_butugychag | and it sucks | [13:30] |
pete_dushenski | ascii_butugychag: ford and vw (with usg/'protean') are working on just that : in-wheel electric motors | [13:30] |
ascii_butugychag | because you're paying for that transmission being there at all | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | you want exactly what the market wants : a truck with good highway behaviour. | [13:31] |
mircea_popescu | so yes, you'e paying. what of it. | [13:31] |
pete_dushenski | http://www.proteanelectric.com/ | [13:31] |
assbot | Protean Electric | Protean Electric ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKUa2u ) | [13:31] |
mircea_popescu | meh it looks like a pos. | [13:31] |
pete_dushenski | !up peterl | [13:31] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.paxtonauto.com/images/CCTP-070500-NOLIMIT-1.jpg < this is closer to what you want. | [13:32] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: usg. waddyawant. | [13:32] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKUnCN ) | [13:32] |
pete_dushenski | ha!! | [13:32] |
PeterL | hi, trying to build trb, anybody want to help me figure out what is wrong? http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d0592532-07b7-468e-a913-988919c58f5b/ | [13:32] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKUoXr ) | [13:32] |
mircea_popescu | See `config.log' for more details. << what's that say PeterL ? | [13:32] |
ascii_butugychag | fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory | [13:33] |
ascii_butugychag | whatcha building on? nintendo ? | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | so far it looks like you don't have a working compiler basically | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag xubuntu iirc. | [13:33] |
pete_dushenski | bbl | [13:33] |
ascii_butugychag | checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no | [13:34] |
ascii_butugychag | xubuntu went clang ?!! | [13:34] |
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mircea_popescu | yes. | [13:34] |
PeterL | aha, do I need to switch to a different compiler? | [13:34] |
ascii_butugychag | yes. | [13:34] |
ascii_butugychag | gcc. | [13:34] |
ascii_butugychag | (has anybody built the thing with clang? i wouldn't use such a trb in the field, but it would be handy for scientific - code coverage, flow graph, etc. purposes) | [13:35] |
ascii_butugychag | clang/llvm is well-suited for vivisection, and gcc is, unfortunately (see old threads re: why) is not | [13:36] |
mircea_popescu | i recall maybe ben_vulpes toying with this at some point ? | [13:36] |
ascii_butugychag | possibly | [13:36] |
ben_vulpes | http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/15_defend-the-world-trashers-at-the-expense-of-those-doing-their-tiny-damndest-and-lets-see-where-that-gets-you.html << i think deedbot- mised this one | [13:36] |
assbot | Defend the world-trashers at the expense of those doing their tiny damndest, and lets see where that gets you ... ( http://bit.ly/1n0N6kX ) | [13:36] |
ascii_butugychag | !s from:ben_vulpes clang | [13:37] |
assbot | 4 results for 'from:ben_vulpes clang' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aben_vulpes+clang | [13:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3985 @ 0.00050183 = 1.9998 BTC [-] | [13:38] |
ben_vulpes | oh i'm sure i did at some point, i have a bad windmill mabit | [13:38] |
ben_vulpes | *habit | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | so basically to go through portland in relative safety one needs a half dozen fascia bearers to bullwhip a whole horde of plebs away enough to form a path. | [13:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050183 = 1.1542 BTC [-] | [13:42] |
ascii_butugychag | l0l ben_vulpes with lictors | [13:42] |
ascii_butugychag | then what do i need, tank column ?? | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | why do you think it's by the you ? it's by the them. | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | you need the same. | [13:43] |
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ascii_butugychag | http://bikeportland.org/2014/02/21/parks-works-to-clear-large-encampment-on-springwater-corridor-101898 << we don't have this here | [13:44] |
assbot | Parks bureau works to clear large encampment on Springwater Corridor - BikePortland.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKWZAz ) | [13:44] |
ascii_butugychag | (did, for a while. it was called 'occupy') | [13:44] |
ben_vulpes | related lolz that didn't make it in | [13:45] |
ben_vulpes | there are twenty feet of tarpaulined hoarder-pile stacked along 20th avenue, just outside the aforementioned col. summers park | [13:46] |
ben_vulpes | the parks department won't touch it because it's not in the park proper | [13:46] |
ben_vulpes | and the cops won't touch it because "be nice to the homeless!" | [13:46] |
ascii_butugychag | 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent | [13:47] |
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ascii_butugychag | ence describes rent-seekers as well as hobos | [13:47] |
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mircea_popescu | how are hobos not rent seekers ? | [13:47] |
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mircea_popescu | they're the paradigmatic rent seeker. | [13:47] |
ascii_butugychag | hobo is small change | [13:47] |
ag3nt_zer0 | good morning b-a | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | what exactly is the difference between "politician"? and hobo ? student ? etc. | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | ello | [13:47] |
ascii_butugychag | scale. | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | scale is not a difference. | [13:48] |
thestringpuller | there is no difference? | [13:48] |
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ben_vulpes | small pineapple, large pineapple, should not matter when sitting. idem broomsticks prolly. | [13:49] |
mircea_popescu | cunt fits all sizes. | [13:50] |
ascii_butugychag | idk, even tepes was said to have used multiple calibers of stake, on a case by case basis | [13:50] |
mircea_popescu | but i look forward to you learned men and your treatises of medicine discussing tuberculosis remedies by scale. | [13:50] |
mircea_popescu | "if it's a big tuberculosis, drink coffee. if it is still small, drink tea!" | [13:50] |
ben_vulpes | cancer has scalar treatments, non? | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [13:51] |
ben_vulpes | "maybe this" and "nop" | [13:51] |
ascii_butugychag | scale exists for all. small boil? knife. gangrenous leg? saw. | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | that incidentally is a very informative field of study for he who aims to be a better systems expert : cancer cures. | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | the criteria for operability are very strictly given. for instance pancreatic cancer : has it touched the fat planes protecting the mesenteric vessels ? | [13:52] |
mircea_popescu | it's not a matter of scale except to the layman. it is a matter of very alphabetical lists of things, for the professional. | [13:52] |
* | ben_vulpes nods | [13:52] |
ben_vulpes | unrelatedly, i got an entire night of sleep last night | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | heretic. | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | !excomunicate ben_vulpes | [13:53] |
ascii_butugychag | mega-respekt | [13:53] |
ben_vulpes | *and* the girl is sick. | [13:53] |
ben_vulpes | *and* the child may be getting it as well. | [13:53] |
ben_vulpes | ifni rolled me a good one. | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ud ifni | [13:54] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Ifni | Despite the urgency of escalating health care costs, there seems to be a slackidemic among those in power preventing any meaningful action from being taken. | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | what ?! | [13:54] |
ben_vulpes | hipster goddes of luck, aka lady infity, lady limit | [13:55] |
ben_vulpes | has domain over chance, mean reversion | [13:56] |
thestringpuller | ;;nethash | [13:56] |
gribble | 768156022.097 | [13:56] |
ben_vulpes | statistically unlikely events and i guess vanity addresses | [13:56] |
thestringpuller | ;;calc 768156022.097 * 0.005 | [13:56] |
gribble | 3840780.11049 | [13:56] |
mircea_popescu | !s nethash | [13:58] |
assbot | 519 results for 'nethash' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nethash | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | 27/12 : gribble: 837554982.002 ; 13/1 gribble: 886485320.427 ; 15/1 : 12:30:43 gribble: 765883451.143 | [13:59] |
thestringpuller | i think gribble is miscalculating | [14:02] |
thestringpuller | ;;gentime 768156022.097 | [14:02] |
gribble | The average time to generate a block at 768156022.097 Mhps, given difficulty of 1.13354299801e+11, is 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 3 minutes, and 24 seconds | [14:02] |
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mircea_popescu | uh | [14:02] |
mircea_popescu | you missed a 0 | [14:03] |
thestringpuller | aha! | [14:03] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes so what's the rest of that shaking ny black dude hands story ? | [14:04] |
thestringpuller | ;;nethash help | [14:04] |
gribble | (nethash takes no arguments) -- Shows the current estimate for total network hash rate, in Ghps. | [14:04] |
ascii_butugychag | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371131 << what was so hard about these | [14:04] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 14:45:17; pete_dushenski: cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches ! | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | not all intercourse is fucking to require something hard to get it started, alfie! | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | sometimes people just like to cuddle. | [14:04] |
ascii_butugychag | l0l | [14:05] |
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ascii_butugychag | lulzily i am using a keyboard at this minute that is only slightly bigger than a vhs tape | [14:06] |
ascii_butugychag | but has full-sized keys | [14:06] |
trinque | "happy hacker" ? | [14:06] |
ascii_butugychag | trinque: variant thereof, but with arrows | [14:07] |
ascii_butugychag | 'not from a good life' | [14:07] |
ascii_butugychag | a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk. | [14:07] |
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ascii_butugychag | trinque: 'fc660c' | [14:11] |
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trinque | not a bad looking clacky | [14:12] |
ascii_butugychag | actually it is extremely painful on account of missing f keys and home/end/pgup/pgdown | [14:13] |
ascii_butugychag | but not as painful as the idiot crapple kbd | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag> a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk. <[14:13] |
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mircea_popescu | what the fuck are you doing, assembling ipads ? | [14:13] |
ascii_butugychag | mircea_popescu: nah, that'd be more merciful, doesn't need a keyboard... | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | am i a truly miserable character if the sufferances of the young wethers in my own party actually amuse me ? | [14:14] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: sometimes people just like to cuddle << you ever try telling this to a shawty who just wanna fuck? doesn't go over well. | [14:15] |
ascii_butugychag | the desk isn't even small. but the laptop and two hanging lcd occupy almost all of the width | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/#comment-40223 this shit's fucking epic | [14:16] |
assbot | The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SmzVIg ) | [14:16] |
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thestringpuller | what's so lulzy? that Gavin and Hearn tried to build a nuke and failed miserably like best korea. (where their solution to rockets is having 1000 north koreans fling the bomb over the ocean) | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | Mircea is free to attack the coming upgrade. He will fail, because "Bitcoin is not a reflection of Mircea's hopes and aspirations, but a check on them." | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | derps on a first name basis with me. perhaps on account of my having fucked their mothers or something, no idea. | [14:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00050219 = 1.7326 BTC [+] | [14:19] |
ascii_butugychag | so ben_vulpes why does xcode take multiple minutes to load a 37 byte 'xml' turd | [14:20] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: It seems we are living in your Pointless and Witless hypothetical. That story didn't have a happy ending tho. | [14:20] |
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mircea_popescu | !up GoonClooney | [14:22] |
-assbot- | You voiced GoonClooney for 30 minutes. | [14:22] |
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mircea_popescu | didn't have an ending at all, mind. | [14:23] |
thestringpuller | well pointless wasn't left with much optimism just, "Eventually I will lose to the witless." | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | that's not act6ually what it says. | [14:25] |
thestringpuller | "Pointless : I guess sooner or later I'll lose, because idiocy has infinite hitpoints." | [14:26] |
thestringpuller | I'm misinterpreting it then. | [14:27] |
jurov | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371019 ha! and i wondered what model these pesky keys in eulora follow | [14:27] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 10:50:59; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370682 << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carry | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller it could just as well be dude watching an insect burner thing going "i guess eventuallt it'll fill up" | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | jurov zing lol | [14:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00050387 = 2.0155 BTC [+] {4} | [14:30] |
thestringpuller | aha! | [14:31] |
BingoBoingo | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371212 << Apparently pcengines is coming out with an APU2 board soon | [14:33] |
assbot | Logged on 15-01-2016 15:51:50; ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower | [14:33] |
ascii_butugychag | BingoBoingo: out for years ? | [14:34] |
thestringpuller | oh look KNC miner drops XT for Bitcoin Classic >> https://forum.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-discussion/an-open-letter-from-sam-cole-ceo-of-knc-miner-t4868.html | [14:34] |
BingoBoingo | ascii_butugychag: No, just next iteration | [14:34] |
ascii_butugychag | ah | [14:34] |
ascii_butugychag | the pce apu is actually my favourite amd64 box of all time | [14:35] |
ascii_butugychag | only marred by the soldered-down non-ecc ram | [14:36] |
ascii_butugychag | but they actually publish schematics. you could even have your own made, somewhere. | [14:36] |
ascii_butugychag | i don't know of any other mobo vendor which does this. | [14:36] |
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ascii_butugychag | !s http://sphincs.cr.yp.to | [14:52] |
assbot | SPHINCS: | [14:52] |
assbot | 1 results for 'http://sphincs.cr.yp.to' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fsphincs.cr.yp.to | [14:52] |
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trinque | "By saying "eliminate the state" we are advocating a security improvement, namely adopting signature schemes that do not need to record information after every signature. We are not talking about eliminating other types of states. We love most states, especially yours!" << oh god | [15:07] |
* | trinque tries to find that picture of guy with american flag planted in his ass, can't | [15:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050198 = 1.5059 BTC [-] {4} | [15:11] |
BingoBoingo | How the social engineering sausage is made | [15:16] |
BingoBoingo | https://archive.is/tSzC0 | [15:17] |
assbot | The ugly truth: Bitcoin is doomed and needs to be replaced : ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTISGB ) | [15:17] |
jurov | https://goldstockbull.com/articles/gold-price-discovery-moving-to-china-in-april/ let's replace it by g0ld | [15:18] |
assbot | China to Start Yuan-Based Gold Price Fix in April: Game Changer? - Gold Stock Bull ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTIVCf ) | [15:18] |
BingoBoingo | ascii_butugychag: I only found out about the APU2 because openbsd-misc has people occasionally derping about the unfinished firmware on the new one | [15:18] |
ascii_butugychag | BingoBoingo: amd publishes the chip docs, you're welcome to finish it personally... | [15:18] |
BingoBoingo | Seems the finishing is largegly being 'crowdsourced' but moves to quad core AMD kaveri chip if I recal correctly | [15:19] |
mircea_popescu | trinque eliminating the wrong kind of state. | [15:20] |
BingoBoingo | ;;google apu2 beta | [15:20] |
gribble | PC-Engines APU2 | ServeTheHome and ServeThe.Biz Forums: |
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BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: Have you considered working on your crazy eyes and walking with a hand in your pocket? | [15:23] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i have nfi why they imagine this is "discovery" | [15:24] |
* | BingoBoingo amazed even the saner people from Portland seem have shortcomings in their orccraft | [15:24] |
mircea_popescu | gold is afaik still illegal to hold for chinese private parties. | [15:24] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ticker --market all | [15:32] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 389.8, vol: 29585.42972196 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 391.891, vol: 16993.74283 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 393.67, vol: 85603.52985172 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 400.0, vol: 15.49699301 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 401.85145, vol: 66234.54240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 394.6899, vol: 389.28134557 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 392.2606, vol: 298.59608725 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) | [15:33] |
BingoBoingo | ;;more | [15:33] |
gribble | 395.66497872 | [15:33] |
mircea_popescu | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15854930/how-do-you-use-stdsystem-error-with-getlasterror#comment49111206_15855015 << speaking of weirdo spam, check out this stuff lol. | [15:33] |
assbot | c++ - How do you use std::system_error with GetLastError? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1PgiUcd ) | [15:33] |
BingoBoingo | Ah, this looks like great January correction. Fucking bizzaro history continues. | [15:33] |
ascii_butugychag | mircea_popescu: what spam | [15:35] |
mircea_popescu | that exsees link | [15:35] |
ascii_butugychag | l0l! | [15:35] |
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mircea_popescu | !up bjezuz | [15:35] |
-assbot- | You voiced bjezuz for 30 minutes. | [15:35] |
* | assbot gives voice to bjezuz | [15:35] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag then i read it carefully. notice how the whole thing makes no sense and there's actually visible lines where syntactic units were thrown together ? | [15:36] |
ascii_butugychag | aha shannonizer | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | "ai", in the sense not of intelligence, but in the sense of "not distinguishable from average human". | [15:37] |
ascii_butugychag | ancient tech, at this point | [15:37] |
ascii_butugychag | even in spamland | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | this is better than most. | [15:37] |
ascii_butugychag | how so ? | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | notice how high ranked the acct is in the site's own terms. | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | http://stackoverflow.com/users/845092/mooing-duck | [15:37] |
assbot | User Mooing Duck - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1PgjsPj ) | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | that's more than wikipedia spammers such as yourself accomplish! | [15:38] |
ascii_butugychag | quite likely it is an 'imperium in imperio' upvote clique, elementarily | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | Compliments: | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | ThePhD: "To this day, MooingDuck has probably been the most helpful lounge person I've come across." | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | Dzek Trek: "@MooingDuck is the best teacher here. He explains everything in the way that just listeners want to hear." | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | Dan: You explain things fully and in a way that just makes sense to me. | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | notice that the [no doubt actual] google software engineer behind the crapolade is deeply aware of what the holes in the levies are. | [15:39] |
ben_vulpes | ascii_butugychag: how would i know, i'm just a human compiler | [15:39] |
ascii_butugychag | and i'm not seeing any obvious spamola in duck's other posts | [15:40] |
ascii_butugychag | possibly 'paste fail' ? | [15:40] |
mircea_popescu | because people go around with links to that in their pastes ? | [15:40] |
ascii_butugychag | e.g., http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15235526/the-static-keyword-and-its-various-uses-in-c/15235626#15235626 | [15:41] |
assbot | The static keyword and its various uses in C++ - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTLAMi ) | [15:41] |
ascii_butugychag | looks like a perfectly legit summary | [15:41] |
ascii_butugychag | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8054273/how-to-implement-an-stl-style-iterator-and-avoid-common-pitfalls/8054856#8054856 << ditto | [15:41] |
assbot | c++ - How to implement an STL-style iterator and avoid common pitfalls? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTLHY5 ) | [15:41] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.virtualians.net/group/cs201-introduction-to-programming-lecture-wise-dis/forum/topics/cs201-introduction-to-programming-lecture-no-38-problems | [15:41] |
mircea_popescu | http://html5.press/can+class+members+defined+outside+namespace+they+are+declared/ | [15:41] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTLKDq ) | [15:42] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.scriptscoop.net/t/7fdf7581e8e8/the-static-keyword-and-its-various-uses-in-c.html | [15:42] |
mircea_popescu | all come up for a strict search for "static variables exist for the "lifetime" of the translation unit that it's defined in, and:" | [15:42] |
ascii_butugychag | l0l! | [15:42] |
mircea_popescu | aha ? | [15:42] |
ascii_butugychag | if thing is a bot which cribs from www, it is a pretty good one | [15:42] |
mircea_popescu | kinda what the original point was yes, | [15:43] |
mircea_popescu | rather good "ai" | [15:43] |
* | mircea_popescu enjoys an immense inflow of pesos now that btc has dropped a little, because hey, local idjits price by medieval methods. | [15:44] |
ascii_butugychag | still seems like it could easily be a prolific and plagiaristic (e.g., east asian) human | [15:45] |
mircea_popescu | ie, spread = volatility *2 + 15% or some shit. | [15:45] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag kinda the point innit. | [15:45] |
ascii_butugychag | mechanized coolie aha. | [15:45] |
mircea_popescu | the "reddit experiment" is in full swing, even WE can't distinguish anymore. | [15:46] |
ascii_butugychag | !s dead souls | [15:46] |
assbot | 19 results for 'dead souls' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dead+souls | [15:46] |
mircea_popescu | what change's a webified ustardian "computer science major" got. | [15:46] |
ascii_butugychag | orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece | [15:46] |
ascii_butugychag | but the tardatron is genuinely obsessed with making convincing faux ~lusers~ | [15:46] |
ascii_butugychag | because the real thing has various undesirable properties | [15:47] |
ascii_butugychag | (fickleness, occupying physical space, needing food, etc) | [15:47] |
ascii_butugychag | and for a great many purposes, spambots are at least as good as 'people' | [15:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00050524 = 1.154 BTC [+] | [15:49] |
mircea_popescu | actually, for all purposes. there is no sense in which a spambot is not a better "people" than a us citizen today. | [15:50] |
ascii_butugychag | well, certain ceremonies still require warm bodies, but this is being worked on | [15:50] |
* | mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human. | [15:50] |
ascii_butugychag | and they are largely anachronisms anyway (e.g., vote) | [15:50] |
mircea_popescu | vote is electronic now neh ? | [15:51] |
ascii_butugychag | mircea_popescu: semi-electronic | [15:51] |
mircea_popescu | * mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human. << this, incidentally, why the write on tits is so important. | [15:51] |
ascii_butugychag | but as of the 2004 election, there is NOT A PERMA-RECORD of particular votes | [15:51] |
ascii_butugychag | that was more or less the end of the pretense | [15:51] |
mircea_popescu | well, the pretense nigh on embarassed teh bushdom. | [15:52] |
ascii_butugychag | i was, in those days, a foolish student, and actually went and picketed 'your vote doesn't count! literally!' | [15:52] |
ascii_butugychag | 'diebold voted' | [15:53] |
mircea_popescu | but you forget, ustardian doesn't want his "vote to count". he wants the ebt to keep showing up. | [15:53] |
ascii_butugychag | etc | [15:53] |
ascii_butugychag | mircea_popescu: or his lockheed salary, aha | [15:54] |
mircea_popescu | also ebt. | [15:54] |
ascii_butugychag | but in point of fact there is no 'honest work' going on anywhere in usa, with possible exception of mafia hits etc | [15:54] |
ascii_butugychag | ~everybody~ is in some way plugged in. | [15:54] |
mircea_popescu | from what i hear mafia's pretty much a joke for years now | [15:54] |
ascii_butugychag | well mexican narco or whatever is current | [15:55] |
mircea_popescu | those, yes. | [15:55] |
ascii_butugychag | i've never even personally sat more than 2 or so hops away from usg, payola-wise | [15:55] |
ascii_butugychag | usa had 'palace economy' for my entire adult life | [15:57] |
ascii_butugychag | like the inca empire. | [15:57] |
mircea_popescu | and to think your parents moved specifically to avoid this fate for you. | [15:58] |
ascii_butugychag | not precisely | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | ah | [15:58] |
ascii_butugychag | moved because richer inca here than there | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | ah i see. with romanians it was a big deal "i want my kids to grow up free" | [15:58] |
ascii_butugychag | by '92 it was pretty clear what 'phreeee' meant for most folks | [15:59] |
mircea_popescu | lord almighty, is there no end of waitresses whose real passion is photography/music/blabla ?! | [15:59] |
ascii_butugychag | mircea_popescu: what kind of answer do you expect them to give ? 'my real passion is mixing cement' | [16:00] |
mircea_popescu | sometimes the only winning move is not to play. | [16:00] |
ascii_butugychag | then why did mircea_popescu go to the playing room | [16:00] |
ascii_butugychag | of course it is full of folks playing. | [16:01] |
mircea_popescu | lol. i prolly should share this one, a sec. | [16:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00050664 = 2.0772 BTC [+] {2} | [16:01] |
mircea_popescu | incidentally : it seems my account on okcupid was briefly banned this monring, judging by how the script croaked | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | and by the apology letter in my inbox. | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | anyone ever heard of something like this befoar ?! | [16:03] |
* | ascii_butugychag last saw okc more than a decade ago | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | also student ? | [16:04] |
ascii_butugychag | aha | [16:04] |
ascii_butugychag | it was a lulzy timewaster | [16:04] |
ascii_butugychag | the character quiz thing, etc | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | quite. mechanized lulzextraction. | [16:04] |
ascii_butugychag | (does it still have the 'what type of creature are you' thing?) | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | i see it through lynx eyes | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | and some cat. | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/shorty-thinks-herself-cool.png << speaking of folks playing. | [16:05] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pgnszc ) | [16:05] |
ascii_butugychag | lynx happens to be my favourite felid | [16:06] |
* | assbot removes voice from bjezuz | [16:06] |
mircea_popescu | not moiety whatever that was ? | [16:06] |
ascii_butugychag | manul is pretty but not man-eating | [16:07] |
BingoBoingo | [16:07] | |
ascii_butugychag | and 168 of what? | [16:07] |
mircea_popescu | of heights. | [16:08] |
ascii_butugychag | ah cm | [16:08] |
BingoBoingo | [16:08] | |
mircea_popescu | ah ok then. | [16:08] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, ascii_butugychag point being : mechanized sorting of the playing innocents is, after all, an economic activity. | [16:09] |
BingoBoingo | Prolly pissed some users off and they flagged you and got autobanned with a manual overturn of ban | [16:09] |
mircea_popescu | i guess ima pay em a few dollah then. | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | pour encourager les autres. | [16:10] |
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thestringpuller | ben_vulpes: i got an entire night of sleep last night << as chetty told me: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=401 | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [16:17] |
deedbot- | [Qntra] First Mass Walmart Closure - http://qntra.net/2016/01/first-mass-walmart-closure/ | [16:20] |
BingoBoingo | ^ Bigger news than the Dow sucking ass today | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | this makes so little sense... what'll distribute the iron rats to the trashy plebs ?! | [16:21] |
ascii_butugychag | i often wonder, how long would it take me to notice if every single wallmart vanished overnight | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | amazon ? | [16:21] |
ascii_butugychag | amazon, sure | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag less than an hour. | [16:22] |
thestringpuller | I was literally just told "Buy Wal-Mart stock. Always holds against a recession" | [16:22] |
BingoBoingo | Surviving walmart will mircea_popescu just gotta take more bus nao to get to walmart | [16:22] |
ascii_butugychag | mircea_popescu: how's that | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | because of the absence of drones everywhere and some smoke in the air. | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | what exactly did you imagine keeps the semblance of a "palace" standing up ? | [16:22] |
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mircea_popescu | they stress-tested this once, delayed ebt almost a whole weekend. | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | thing nearly fell apart. | [16:23] |
ascii_butugychag | mega-s33kr1t for mircea_popescu: ebt etc. work at places other than l0lmart | [16:24] |
mircea_popescu | you understand how stress propagates right ? | [16:25] |
ascii_butugychag | aha | [16:25] |
ascii_butugychag | this, yes | [16:25] |
mircea_popescu | if this didn't exist, the whole "i didn't spend 50 bux to fix my car two weeks ago so i gotta pay 1100 today" thing wouldn't exist. | [16:25] |
ascii_butugychag | cascaded failure is the rule, rather than exception | [16:26] |
ascii_butugychag | if this were not so, it would be quite difficult to die | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | so without free shelf-stable cheese dispensaries... someone's gonna have problems. | [16:26] |
ascii_butugychag | could fight on like the knight in monty python | [16:26] |
* | ascii_butugychag feels physically ill recalling the mere existence of the 'shelf-stable cheese' thing | [16:27] |
mircea_popescu | ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ? | [16:27] |
mircea_popescu | they ever-so-carefully avoid showing how fat they are. on one hand. and on the other... | [16:27] |
ascii_butugychag | same thing as with job candidates having much better looking biographies in their cv ? | [16:27] |
BingoBoingo | [16:27] | |
mircea_popescu | nono, i mean with them. | [16:28] |
ascii_butugychag | ah! | [16:28] |
mircea_popescu | and they never say "i'm the ugly one" either. or you know, "the short boring looking one". it's always "i'm the one in the right | [16:28] |
mircea_popescu | i mean, taking pic with mom i can see, serious psychological disturbances. | [16:28] |
mircea_popescu | but... what fucking female doesn't understand you find some UGLIER friends to wing for you ?! | [16:28] |
ascii_butugychag | possibly they actually think 'the light of the beauty' illuminates them ? | [16:29] |
ascii_butugychag | when standing next to | [16:29] |
mircea_popescu | this is on par with imagining periods will make them feel good. | [16:29] |
ascii_butugychag | wai wut?! | [16:29] |
mircea_popescu | "i feel like my ovaries are floating in rainbow" | [16:30] |
ascii_butugychag | who imagines this | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu | exactly. | [16:30] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3509 @ 0.00050156 = 1.76 BTC [-] {2} | [16:34] |
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mircea_popescu | ahahaah there;'s such a thinkg as hicksville, ny. | [16:40] |
BingoBoingo | !up PeterL | [16:44] |
* | assbot gives voice to PeterL | [16:44] |
PeterL | maybe somebody could help, I'm trying to build trb, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6d055000-a895-4b6a-b4bf-af7f360db3b7/?raw=true | [16:45] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvKS4h ) | [16:45] |
mircea_popescu | holy shit the stuff poor PeterL is running into | [16:45] |
mircea_popescu | PeterL looks like you don't have openssh ? | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu | openssl* | [16:46] |
PeterL | I thought it built that earlier in the script? | [16:46] |
ascii_butugychag | PeterL: have you considered something like a human os ? | [16:46] |
PeterL | in my folder i am building in there is a directory "openssl-1.0.1g" | [16:47] |
PeterL | human os? | [16:47] |
ascii_butugychag | well you are clearly on some heathen abomination | [16:47] |
PeterL | xubuntu | [16:47] |
PeterL | just trying to follow directions on trb website | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_butugychag srsly nao. this thing is supposed to build. | [16:48] |
ascii_butugychag | mircea_popescu: not for nintendo. unless and until i port it to nintendo. | [16:49] |
ascii_butugychag | (or mircea_popescu or somebody) | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | PeterL is the openssl dir in the paths correctly ? | [16:49] |
PeterL | which paths? | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu | mmm im not too fresh on this but somewhere in the script it's told where to find the things it needs, | [16:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2591 @ 0.00050073 = 1.2974 BTC [+] | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | and since it's looking for openssl/buffer.h as opposed to openssl-1.0.1g/buffer.h i'd guess it's lost | [16:51] |
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PeterL | I see a line "OPENSSL=openssl-1.0.1g" in the script, is that it? | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu | that should do it. | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu | ok that's not it, does the file it wants actually exist on your system ? can you find it ? | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | (is it a ridiculous mishap such as results sometimes from manual archive manipulation where you have openssl-1.0.1g/openssl-1.0.1g/blabla ?) | [16:56] |
BingoBoingo | ;;bc,stats | [16:57] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 393453 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1682 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [16:57] |
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mod6 | PeterL: hi, are you using the v99997 build script? | [17:04] |
PeterL | yes | [17:04] |
PeterL | oh, wait, is that the same one linked on trb website? | [17:05] |
mod6 | did you try to run this script more than one time? | [17:05] |
PeterL | umm, yes | [17:05] |
mod6 | no, i don't think it's linked. it's not 'official' at this point -- just a thing I put together to build the full orchastra and pull & press src with V. | [17:06] |
mod6 | ok, so trying to run that script more than once might cause some pain. | [17:06] |
PeterL | I am using the script from http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html | [17:06] |
assbot | [BTC-dev] UPDATED v0.0.5: Patching The Reference Implementation: A Guide ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjMQbV ) | [17:06] |
mod6 | i'd try creating a new dir somewhere, putting the build script in the new dir, and then running it again. | [17:07] |
ascii_butugychag | aaaancient history | [17:07] |
ascii_butugychag | imho everybody oughta be using v build at this point | [17:07] |
mod6 | oh yeah. that's very old. lemme dig up the latest one. | [17:07] |
PeterL | I guess I am just not sure how to get v to build it once I have v? | [17:07] |
mod6 | so, V doesn't actually do any building at all. | [17:09] |
PeterL | ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it? | [17:09] |
mod6 | it just pulls down the vpatches, and inflates the source tree from zero. | [17:09] |
mod6 | <+PeterL> ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it? << the latest build script will do all of this for you ~except~ creating your ~/.wot directory with the appropriatly named keys placed in the directory. | [17:10] |
mod6 | you need buildroot+everything to build the static binary. | [17:10] |
PeterL | which one is the latest build script? | [17:10] |
* | mod6 is still digging in the logs. | [17:10] |
mod6 | one sec. | [17:10] |
mod6 | is there a way to search the deeds in deedbot? | [17:12] |
PeterL | google site:deedbot.org searchstring ? | [17:13] |
mod6 | thanks, couldn't find it on deedbot though | [17:14] |
mod6 | but this is the one | [17:14] |
mod6 | http://dpaste.com/3J5SA2V.txt | [17:14] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmteVM ) | [17:14] |
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mod6 | and... like i said, create a new dir, drop this script in there and run it -- but be aware that if left unchanged from the original, it'll not build alf's latest two patches in when pressing the source out. | [17:15] |
mod6 | !up PeterL | [17:15] |
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mod6 | if you want it to do so, you'll need to edit this line: | [17:16] |
mod6 | ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch | [17:16] |
mod6 | and change it to this: | [17:16] |
mircea_popescu | oh he's uysing a 9month old script. doh. | [17:16] |
mod6 | ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch | [17:17] |
PeterL | maybe the website could include a note to not use that script? or just take it off the front page? | [17:17] |
mod6 | my apologies. what exists on the website is meant to help someone build v0.5.3.1 -- the rest of this stuff is basically as-of-yet-unreleased. | [17:18] |
mod6 | trying to get there... just a zillion things to work on :( | [17:18] |
mircea_popescu | poor mod6 | [17:19] |
PeterL | no problem, i understand | [17:19] |
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BingoBoingo | Prolly ought to get out a 0.5.4 relase tagged, since... that database fix is necessary | [17:26] |
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ascii_butugychag | yeah the old tree is close to useless | [17:27] |
BingoBoingo | I mean... unless we plan a future reorg back to August 2015... | [17:27] |
BingoBoingo | !up copumpkin | [17:27] |
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BingoBoingo | Thanks to V there's no serious need to tag anything beyond the BDB fix in a release, but... Gotta tag something useful as the recommended | [17:28] |
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PeterL | does v have to be in the same directory as the buildscript? | [17:29] |
PeterL | I tried to run the script, it just says ": invalid option" | [17:32] |
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BingoBoingo | !up PeterL | [17:47] |
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mod6 | getting it resolved... he's on a i686 env. | [17:48] |
mod6 | ben_vulpes: so yah, having the keys on blogs/homepages isn't a bad idea. | [17:55] |
mod6 | but... maybe it'd be useful to put the links to our exported, ascii armored keys in the assets wiki? | [17:56] |
mod6 | that way when someone wants to get going with V, they can find the keys without having to dig through 6 blogs. | [17:56] |
mod6 | and additionally, this cuts out SKS. | [17:56] |
mod6 | my key can be found here; http://mod6.net/mod6.asc | [17:57] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Zq5X5d ) | [17:57] |
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ascii_butugychag | !s pressed cd | [17:57] |
assbot | 6 results for 'pressed cd' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=pressed+cd | [17:57] |
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mod6 | ah | [17:58] |
mod6 | ;;later tell PeterL Sorry, just missed you there. Thanks for your patience and efforts to build! We'll get through it. | [17:58] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:58] |
BingoBoingo | Looks like axe time approaches https://archive.is/dFk4F | [18:01] |
assbot | BitFuryGroup is ready to move forward and support 2MB increase with Bitcoin Classic : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU0Rg3 ) | [18:02] |
punkman | that's not good | [18:04] |
thestringpuller | BingoBoingo: KNC miner also committed as well. | [18:10] |
BingoBoingo | You got to understand the fiat orchestra is coming together | [18:11] |
thestringpuller | the shitgnome symphony orchestra | [18:11] |
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mircea_popescu | [18:16] | |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Zq5X5d ) | [18:16] |
mircea_popescu | what exactly do miner producers have to do with this discussion ? | [18:16] |
mircea_popescu | "That puts over 50% of the hash rate behind Bitcoin Classic, consensus has been achieved." | [18:19] |
mircea_popescu | lol reddit. | [18:19] |
mircea_popescu | "A few hardcore small-blockians might actually delay their switch, because the level of anger from that nasty group will be unimaginable, when their beloved developers betray them like this. Popescu alone will probably have a heart attack :)" | [18:21] |
mircea_popescu | lol ok. | [18:21] |
mircea_popescu | mno, i will simply be staying with bitcoin. as aformentioned, good riddance. | [18:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050864 = 1.5259 BTC [+] {3} | [18:22] |
mircea_popescu | lol coinbase doesn't let people buy anymore? :D | [18:31] |
BingoBoingo | But it's easy to see how this plays out. Hearn agenda fails and he loudly quits. Derps knee jerk sold on Hearn agenda which is still a pile of fail | [18:31] |
BingoBoingo | [18:31] | |
mircea_popescu | yeaya, im sure that's how things go. | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/413pwp/mike_hearns_latest_blog_post_was_a_strategic_move/ << uncharacteristically, r/bitcoin is pretty aware of what's going on. | [18:33] |
BingoBoingo | But yes, fiat media was all ready to run on hearn's "Bitcoin dead" and loyal USG exchanges ready to prevent buying to fire the broomstick one last time | [18:33] |
assbot | Mike Hearn's latest blog post was a strategic move by R3 to influence the industry : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU3YVg ) | [18:33] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: it's ashame they underestimate the enemy. when reality sets in the classic, "No one saw this coming!!!111" will echo throughout the chambers. | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | eh that's ok, im sure it'll never have happened. | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | just like xt etc. | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | all that hard work trying to select a marginally defensible epithet and coming up with "classic"... | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | sad. | [18:35] |
BingoBoingo | The only material difference between XT and "classic" is "classic" has a vague chance of triggering the crisis. XT never had a chance. Not in this or any other hell. | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | amusingly... they don't even have 1/3 of the "public support"/astroturf of xt ? | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck is this limp dick shit lmao. | [18:36] |
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mircea_popescu | oh oh | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | so the derps are going to control 5bn worth of usg poison with some idle promises for maybe 30-50mn theoretical and in fact a few thouysand here and there ? | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | what is this, usg's wet dream ? go sink a chinese aircraft carrier, yo. | [18:46] |
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BingoBoingo | !up irdial | [18:55] |
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BingoBoingo | irdial: See the line here titled register. You are in gribble wot, but not assbot wot yet http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot | [18:57] |
assbot | irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q3G8FJ ) | [18:57] |
deedbot- | [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $700 before Apr 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1236/bitcoin-to-top-700-before-apr-2016/#b32 | [18:57] |
irdial | !register 5E16D36EDB3240F9 | [19:02] |
assbot | That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint. | [19:02] |
BingoBoingo | irdial: Full fingerprint | [19:03] |
BingoBoingo | !up gernika | [19:12] |
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gernika | thx BingoBoingo. Curious what's the deal with coinbase? I just bought some btc there like 1 hr ago... | [19:12] |
BingoBoingo | gernika: Well, they are having a lot of "service interruptions" today | [19:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00050695 = 3.3459 BTC [-] {3} | [19:13] |
BingoBoingo | Has the Bitcoin hit your own wallet yet or is it still in Coinbase? | [19:14] |
gernika | saw something on reddit where some guy said he couldn't buy | [19:14] |
gernika | No - never hits my wallet until a week after I buy, which is normal. | [19:14] |
gernika | for coinbase | [19:14] |
gernika | er couldn't sell | [19:14] |
gernika | And no I don't keep more than a pittance in the wallet at any time. | [19:15] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3298 @ 0.00050615 = 1.6693 BTC [-] {2} | [19:19] |
BingoBoingo | ah | [19:20] |
irdial | !register E930 6C6E 1CCE 5697 A88B 5482 5E16 D36E DB32 40F9 | [19:20] |
assbot | That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint. | [19:20] |
deedbot- | [Qntra] Robocoin/Romit Follows Hearn Out - http://qntra.net/2016/01/robocoinromit-follows-hearn-out/ | [19:21] |
irdial | !register E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9 | [19:22] |
assbot | Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9. This may take a few moments. | [19:22] |
assbot | Key DB3240F9 / "Irdial-Discs |
[19:22] |
assbot | Registration successful. | [19:22] |
gernika | Would prefer not to use coinbase any longer, but no "exchange" is any better, and bitcoin-otc is dead. | [19:23] |
ascii_butugychag | i even used it once ! | [19:23] |
ascii_butugychag | in fact, the only time i bought coin since... gox | [19:24] |
jurov | !gettrust jurov gernika | [19:24] |
assbot | Trust relationship from user jurov to user gernika: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=jurov&to=gernika | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/gernika/ | [19:24] |
ascii_butugychag | it worked about as well as 'golden age' gox | [19:24] |
ascii_butugychag | grudgingly spat forth some coin | [19:24] |
gernika | ascii_butugychag: otc? | [19:24] |
ascii_butugychag | coinbase | [19:24] |
jurov | gernika i am selling btc via transferwise, so far works well | [19:24] |
BingoBoingo | irdial: ty, now you can !up yourself in channel and if you wish you may drop an dpaste encrypted to my public key here for consideration for qntra publication | [19:25] |
ascii_butugychag | i was never able to get anything useful whatsoever from otc | [19:25] |
jurov | (not big volume tho) | [19:25] |
gernika | jurov: will check it out | [19:25] |
BingoBoingo | irdial: If something you submit does get published you talk to jurov about collecting your shares. Thank you for your patience. | [19:25] |
gernika | ascii_butugychag: I've done a few small transactions on otc. All went smoothly. | [19:26] |
gernika | But since the bot went down, haven't used it. | [19:26] |
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BingoBoingo | !up irdial | [19:27] |
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irdial | BingoBongo Thatnk you for helping me. | [19:27] |
BingoBoingo | irdial: No problem. Just please !up yourself to make sure you have the process for doing so down. | [19:28] |
irdial | !up | [19:28] |
irdial | !up irdial | [19:28] |
jurov | irdial you're up already, i'll devoice you first, then retry | [19:29] |
jurov | !down irdial | [19:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00050942 = 1.6556 BTC [+] {2} | [19:29] |
jurov | irdial oh and talk to assbot in pm, not here | [19:30] |
ascii_butugychag | 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking, https://youtu.be/R0iArSIU0Z8?t=47m16s , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will | [19:30] |
assbot | Beyond Bitcoin: Morning Webcast Session - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbZ7Qk ) | [19:30] |
ascii_butugychag | be a New York Times article saying Mike Hearn broke up with Bitcoin and called it a failed experiment."' << l0l | [19:30] |
gernika | "When one of the most important people in Bitcoin states something like that you have to listen." http://avc.com/2016/01/bitcoin-is-dead-long-live-bitcoin/ | [19:33] |
assbot | Bitcoin Is Dead, Long Live Bitcoin – AVC ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbZn1N ) | [19:33] |
danielpbarron | BingoBoingo, would help if someone gave him a rating first :p | [19:33] |
BingoBoingo | !rate irdial 1 loud | [19:33] |
assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/e90b93be43ae09f0 | [19:33] |
jurov | lol you did not? | [19:34] |
BingoBoingo | !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.irdial.1:fea0f97f18bed88a3642c4a450d4595eca0ea2591c2f4557fae869882916da7c | [19:34] |
assbot | Successfully added a rating of 1 for irdial with note: loud | [19:34] |
BingoBoingo | jurov: forgot too | [19:34] |
danielpbarron | i think i tried to give him a -1 a while back but couldn't because he was in the wrong WoT | [19:34] |
BingoBoingo | irdial: Pls try to up self again | [19:34] |
danielpbarron | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2015#1006051 << irdial remember this? | [19:38] |
assbot | Logged on 04-02-2015 09:56:00; danielpbarron: wanted to do this -> !rate irdial -2 UnSavory Garnish http://twitter.com/beautyon_/status/562908880511201280 | [19:38] |
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BingoBoingo | !up irdial | [19:43] |
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BingoBoingo | http://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/2016/01/14/decentralization/ | [19:51] |
assbot | Why Bitcoin's Decentralization Matters · BlueMatt's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1UVLB2r ) | [19:51] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2831 @ 0.0005033 = 1.4248 BTC [-] {2} | [20:06] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00050943 = 9.6792 BTC [+] | [20:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050943 = 1.1717 BTC [+] | [20:57] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050943 = 7.6924 BTC [+] | [21:04] |
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mircea_popescu | !rate irdial 1 new blood | [21:10] |
assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8522aded55a732a2 | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.irdial.1:857be4f2206704b1b9b80f466b11a034fafdce66794f1e3a414e7b592b941e57 | [21:10] |
assbot | Successfully added a rating of 1 for irdial with note: new blood | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | " While the introduction of the FDIC and similar programs decentralized trust in financial institutions from one party to two, transactions in much of the world do not offer such protections. Even with such programs, individuals are not universally protected from loss across borders and over certain value." | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck. | [21:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9138 @ 0.00050943 = 4.6552 BTC [+] {3} | [21:21] |
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thestringpuller | how does the FDIC decentralize trust | [21:26] |
thestringpuller | it's like "daddy i got robbed can I have more money plz" "sure honey lemme just start up my printer" | [21:26] |
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thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [21:27] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 367.62, Best ask: 367.78, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 367.57, 24 hour volume: 128368.49364011, 24 hour low: 357.02, 24 hour high: 428.92, 24 hour vwap: None | [21:27] |
shinohai | MaidSafe: http://i.imgur.com/zzTxIsF.jpg?1 | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | in fact the fdic centralized banking to an unsanitary degree. | [21:28] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sngr6a ) | [21:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2535 @ 0.00050943 = 1.2914 BTC [+] | [21:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00050869 = 8.1645 BTC [-] {3} | [21:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33326 @ 0.00050943 = 16.9773 BTC [+] | [21:44] |
BingoBoingo | Anyone want this week's wall street lolz? | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | lol 35k sold and we're not even at november levels ? this is pitiful. | [21:45] |
shinohai | O.o Bundy supporter arrested! | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | instacorrections and errything. | [21:46] |
BingoBoingo | shinohai: I gotta go to my Friday meeting soon. Somebody look into and mebbe write it up? | [21:46] |
shinohai | http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/protester_arrested_in_burns_dr.html | [21:46] |
assbot | Protester arrested in Burns, accused of driving stolen refuge vehicle | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q3Vqdo ) | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | shinohai wasn't that yesterday ? | [21:47] |
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mircea_popescu | !up locksley | [21:52] |
-assbot- | You voiced locksley for 30 minutes. | [21:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00050943 = 9.0679 BTC [+] | [21:55] |
shinohai | first i had seen o f it weird | [21:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3597 @ 0.00050531 = 1.8176 BTC [-] {2} | [22:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3003 @ 0.00050478 = 1.5159 BTC [-] | [22:01] |
BingoBoingo | https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << 6! | [22:02] |
assbot | Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeJp6j ) | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | this is good for bitcoin. | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | /therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/ << how come this wasn't 0.99.99.99 anyway ? | [22:09] |
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danielpbarron | shinohai> MaidSafe: http.. << I met her at porcfest | [22:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00050943 = 5.4509 BTC [+] | [22:13] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: i left the original format string intact | [22:14] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: but you can trivially set it to whatever | [22:14] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: i only see 5 ? | [22:14] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: One got rebooted | [22:14] |
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shinohai | lol danielpbarron | [22:17] |
shinohai | sorry I couldn't resist | [22:18] |
danielpbarron | sorry for what? | [22:18] |
shinohai | porkfest? | [22:18] |
shinohai | !s maidsafe | [22:19] |
assbot | 91 results for 'maidsafe' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=maidsafe | [22:19] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: To be fair #6 is a ways from sync'ing | [22:20] |
asciilifeform | am i the only one who thinks of... chastity belt, when reads 'maidsafe' | [22:20] |
BingoBoingo | not anymore | [22:21] |
BingoBoingo | brb, meeting | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | i can't recall wtf that shartup was supposed to be doing anyway | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | other than getting random derps to self-importantly all over themselves at "conferences" and other pleb gatherings. | [22:22] |
danielpbarron | cloud storage on a blockchain or something | [22:22] |
asciilifeform | the thing-these-supposedly-are is usually an afterthought | [22:24] |
asciilifeform | apparently the mere promise of 'this is the next thing' is sufficient scambait for avaricious idiots | [22:24] |
asciilifeform | (for instance, i still don't really know what neobee supposedly was to have done) | [22:25] |
asciilifeform | but apparently this aspect is not essential.. | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | brick and mortar!!11 | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | apparently overhead is now a selling point. somehow. | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | im sitting here chuckling privately over that roamning mode ssh thing. | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | fucking lulzy software. | [22:31] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: do we have a name yet ? | [22:38] |
asciilifeform | (though in this case, it is likely to be names - plural) | [22:39] |
asciilifeform | and, the mega-question | [22:40] |
asciilifeform | ... was it one of the numerous scurrying vermin theo allows himself to be surrounded by? | [22:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00050454 = 5.449 BTC [-] {3} | [22:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14337 @ 0.00050382 = 7.2233 BTC [-] {4} | [22:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00050283 = 4.1232 BTC [-] {2} | [23:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14732 @ 0.00050682 = 7.4665 BTC [+] {2} | [23:12] |
mod6 | ;;ticker | [23:13] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 369.03, Best ask: 369.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 369.1, 24 hour volume: 136230.01105651, 24 hour low: 357.02, 24 hour high: 423.29, 24 hour vwap: None | [23:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00050943 = 2.3434 BTC [+] | [23:20] |
deedbot- | [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.50000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1233/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jul-2016/#b30 | [23:23] |
deedbot- | [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b73 | [23:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050942 = 3.1075 BTC [-] | [23:35] |
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