Forum logs for 14 Sep 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.0007442 = 8.4839 BTC [+] | [00:34] |
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| ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-09-2015#1272924 << i have always wondered! why do mircea_popescu's contracts /always have names/ in addition to the fingerprints? | [01:46] |
| assbot | Logged on 13-09-2015 22:05:59; nubbins`: your name is irrelevant | [01:46] |
| mircea_popescu | and go to great lengths to manually bypass barriers << incidentally, this is why a b-a linux is such a low hanging fruit. | [01:52] |
| mircea_popescu | but for some reason either the histeresis is great or outright resistance to the notion is great. | [01:52] |
| ben_vulpes | what hysteresis | [01:52] |
| mircea_popescu | in between me pointing out gentoo does not actually work and alf getting off his "works for me" horse. | [01:54] |
| mircea_popescu | there's gotta be a complete bitcoin distro. kernel and all. | [01:55] |
| ben_vulpes | heh--pull a foundation and start with an ancient kernel? | [01:55] |
| mircea_popescu | maybe. but ancient crypto is useless. | [01:56] |
| mircea_popescu | modern crypto useless for the reason stated | [01:56] |
| mircea_popescu | there's going to have to be a bisection and it's hard work, of the "do not bother me for three days" sort. | [01:56] |
| ben_vulpes | well, "ancient". | [01:56] |
| mircea_popescu | 1990s. | [01:56] |
| ben_vulpes | if it boots emacs, i'm in. | [01:57] |
| ben_vulpes | "the programmer's portable os" | [01:57] |
| mircea_popescu | [01:57] | |
| mircea_popescu | quite a ways to go to what we actually want to have. | [01:58] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2015#1273642 << this is true. i would estimate a ~passible~ clump of v-math to be in between 20 and 50mn nodes, each of which requiring the reasonable student an hour to an evenings' study. | [01:59] |
| assbot | Logged on 14-09-2015 02:34:49; asciilifeform: problem is, most folks asking for this kind of thing, have vastly overoptimistic idea of what can be expected from a single book and a reasonable amount of study. | [01:59] |
| mircea_popescu | wich strictly means that a) mathematics is not open to human beings and b) even ultraspecialised approaches are pushing the proposition. | [02:00] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;calc 16 * 365 * 50 | [02:00] |
| gribble | 292000 | [02:00] |
| mircea_popescu | maybe 1% or so is the best you can hope for, as a human. | [02:00] |
| mircea_popescu | the problem is that until and unless someone takes a serious byte out of making the damned thing, it's kind of hard to guess if and how the graph is actually summarizable, or w/e the term is. | [02:01] |
| mircea_popescu | but 3k years' worth of bumbling efforts at "teaching" math by ear certainly never got very far with it. | [02:02] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2015#1273646 << algebra is easily the hardest part. not even just because the notion of number is easily the most complex abstraction we've invented to date. | [02:03] |
| assbot | Logged on 14-09-2015 02:41:49; *: gernika aims lower. would be satisfied to be able to reconstruct algebra on death bed. | [02:03] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes: << i have always wondered! why do mircea_popescu's contracts /always have names/ in addition to the fingerprints? << array of conveniences. your govt id includes your name aside from your number too. | [02:04] |
| thestringpuller | !gettrust kruzt | [02:04] |
| assbot | kruzt is not registered in WoT. | [02:04] |
| ben_vulpes | ;;later tell pete_dushenski !לשׁנה טובה | [02:05] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [02:05] |
| ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-09-2015#1273206 << actually, ask danielpbarron | [02:08] |
| assbot | Logged on 13-09-2015 22:51:17; mircea_popescu: thestringpuller ask her! | [02:08] |
| thestringpuller | ^^^ danielpbarron | [02:09] |
| BingoBoingo | [02:10] | |
| ben_vulpes | thestringpuller: "the whole point of the last month of pregnancy is to make the idea of childbearing very appealing" | [02:10] |
| mircea_popescu | yeah! | [02:10] |
| thestringpuller | ben_vulpes: childbearing seems unappealing to me | [02:11] |
| ben_vulpes | the things women generally enthuse about doing to cocks doesn't appeal to me either. | [02:11] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112414 @ 0.00074104 = 83.3033 BTC [-] {5} | [02:14] |
| thestringpuller | like hitting dudes in the balls? that isn't very fun either. | [02:14] |
| ben_vulpes | no man, like sucking cocks and bearing children. | [02:14] |
| thestringpuller | how are those two things related?!? | [02:15] |
| ben_vulpes | things women do that i don't! | [02:15] |
| thestringpuller | being on the male side of child bearing is the unappealing part i was referring to! lol | [02:15] |
| thestringpuller | i would need 9 months of xanex for that | [02:16] |
| thestringpuller | i actually don't think all the xanex in the world would help | [02:16] |
| mircea_popescu | what about xanax ? | [02:20] |
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| ben_vulpes | it's great - a whole new world of indignities and hilarities to enjoy the spectacle of | [02:30] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76300 @ 0.00074034 = 56.4879 BTC [-] {4} | [02:39] |
| cazalla | fluffypony, do you know "Francois Harris the founder of Bitcoinzar" | [02:46] |
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| cazalla | either way - http://memeburn.com/2015/09/education-is-the-big-hurdle-blocking-bitcoin-growth-in-africa/ | [02:47] |
| assbot | Education is the big hurdle blocking Bitcoin growth in Africa - Memeburn ... ( http://bit.ly/1O9Y2Yz ) | [02:47] |
| cazalla | and here i thought it was money, or lack of it | [02:47] |
| fluffypony | cazalla: he follows me on Twitter and we've pm'd a bit, don't know him outside of that | [02:52] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9209 @ 0.00074838 = 6.8918 BTC [+] {4} | [02:57] |
| punkman | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/14/upshot/gaps-in-alumni-earnings-stand-out-in-release-of-college-data.html | [02:59] |
| assbot | Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1O9YKF1 ) | [02:59] |
| punkman | "The Department of Education calculated the percentage of students at each college who earned more than $25,000 per year, which is about what high school graduates earn. At hundreds of colleges, less than half of students met this threshold 10 years after enrolling" | [02:59] |
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| thestringpuller | punkman: College loans maybe the greatest scam yet. | [03:40] |
| thestringpuller | Go to school work for school for cheap. Pay back loans for years to come. | [03:40] |
| thestringpuller | all whilst still poor | [03:40] |
| punkman | and still uneducated | [03:41] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13905 @ 0.00076577 = 10.648 BTC [+] | [04:17] |
| mircea_popescu | holy shit punkman | [04:21] |
| mircea_popescu | are those "hundreds of colleges" pretty much community "colleges" etc ? | [04:21] |
| mircea_popescu | and "college graduates" earning 2k per month is bs, incidentally. that's what the living wage is. | [04:22] |
| mircea_popescu | highschool grad in unionized job (police, plumbing, roadwork, you name it) does iirc 30-40k in his 30s. | [04:22] |
| punkman | it did mention barber/cosmetology "colleges" were included | [04:24] |
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| mircea_popescu | seems there's ~7k colleges in the us. "hundreds" is meaningless in this context. | [04:25] |
| mircea_popescu | https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84 | [04:25] |
| assbot | Fast Facts ... ( http://bit.ly/1M5TSO6 ) | [04:25] |
| mircea_popescu | (note the .asp for a lol.) | [04:25] |
| punkman | mircea_popescu: Title IV are just the ones the gov will loan you money to attend | [04:27] |
| mircea_popescu | right | [04:27] |
| BingoBoingo | ASP, Adobe cold fusion, nothing more toxic than an American college website | [04:34] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69300 @ 0.00074461 = 51.6015 BTC [-] {4} | [04:59] |
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| mircea_popescu | thestringpuller since you were asking, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHVCZagJtj8&t=16m14s | [05:11] |
| assbot | Julia Tourianski: State Control Perpetually Increasing Until Collapse - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lt7gZT ) | [05:11] |
| mircea_popescu | apparently she's reading the logs. | [05:11] |
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| BingoBoingo | And reddit runs out of node budget https://archive.is/AAWwW | [06:26] |
| assbot | Anyone running a full node for their apps/websites? Where do you store it? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1iplUuj ) | [06:26] |
| shinohai | LOL | [06:30] |
| shinohai | I have a paltry node budget, I run it anyway. | [06:30] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141483 @ 0.00074961 = 106.0571 BTC [-] {6} | [06:47] |
| punkman | http://mashable.com/2015/09/12/us-open-final-ticket-price-drop/ | [07:12] |
| assbot | Nobody wants to go to the US Open anymore now that Serena is out ... ( http://bit.ly/1KNkx53 ) | [07:12] |
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| punkman | herp http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/14/business/dealbook/pitfalls-for-the-unwary-borrower-out-on-the-frontiers-of-banking.html | [08:00] |
| assbot | Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHJibg ) | [08:00] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63800 @ 0.00073927 = 47.1654 BTC [-] | [08:35] |
| danielpbarron | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2015#1273688 << https://twitter.com/BraveTheWorld/status/643289336524345344 | [08:38] |
| assbot | Logged on 14-09-2015 05:06:53; thestringpuller: ^^^ danielpbarron | [08:38] |
| shinohai | Well can't say danielpbarron hasn't done his part for the cult. | [08:47] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119200 @ 0.00073708 = 87.8599 BTC [-] {3} | [09:09] |
| cazalla | well, Australia just got their 5th prime minister in 5 years - not that i expect anyone actually gives a fuck http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-defeats-tony-abbott-in-liberal-leadership-spill-to-become-prime-minister-20150914-gjmhiu.html | [09:24] |
| assbot | Malcolm Turnbull defeats Tony Abbott in Liberal leadership spill to become prime minister ... ( http://bit.ly/1M6nD1g ) | [09:25] |
| cazalla | this time it's gonna be different! this guy we can count on to lead the country unlike 28 people before him | [09:25] |
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| mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo it's fortunate that moore's law hosts nodes for free in moore's legal datacenter | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu | otherwise i dunno what they'd do. | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu | lead it to where ? | [09:37] |
| davout | ohai asseteristas | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu | hola. | [09:39] |
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| funkenstein_ | !up HeySteve | [10:00] |
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| HeySteve | hey, thanks funkenstein_ | [10:01] |
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| HeySteve | having connection difficulties lately so I haven't been doing the manual sign in | [10:02] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82300 @ 0.00075478 = 62.1184 BTC [+] {3} | [10:28] |
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| funkenstein_ | the case of anton_osika reminds me of the post-resleeving identification ceremony from the takeshi kovacs novels. | [10:37] |
| funkenstein_ | a signed statement from "enough" people in counterparty's WOT that the spirit of key A now resides in key B would be the only way | [10:39] |
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| funkenstein_ | but we all learn from these things so I say thanks to all involved | [10:41] |
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| funkenstein_ | "luke, I am your father". "No it's not true, sign a statement with his key bitch" | [10:48] |
| mod6 | heheh | [10:50] |
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| shinohai | https://i.imgur.com/KCcGbJ5.png <<< Insight on refugee crisis | [12:08] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1KO1rvM ) | [12:08] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47476 @ 0.00077195 = 36.6491 BTC [+] {3} | [12:23] |
| mircea_popescu | !up Martin777 | [12:23] |
| -assbot- | You voiced Martin777 for 30 minutes. | [12:23] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11824 @ 0.00077224 = 9.131 BTC [+] {2} | [12:24] |
| mircea_popescu | shinohai in other news, the isis throughput seems to be about 3%. | [12:25] |
| mircea_popescu | (isis has more "boots on the ground" in the immigrant wave than the us has in the entire middle east.) | [12:26] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72600 @ 0.00077225 = 56.0654 BTC [+] | [12:29] |
| shinohai | Doesn't surprise me a all. | [12:31] |
| shinohai | Also, if the anton_osika guy reads these logs, please note there is no such word in the English language as "unprobabilistically " | [12:37] |
| shinohai | !up anton_osika | [12:39] |
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| anton_osika | Thanks. | [12:39] |
| shinohai | nw | [12:40] |
| anton_osika | I do read. I also have a talent for getting into tip-of-the-tounge moments, in such cases I make up words... | [12:41] |
| kakobrekla | we dont have a problem with words here but with concepts. | [12:41] |
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| anton_osika | I tried to refer to the concept of 5 sigma, etc. | [12:43] |
| shinohai | When you PM'd me and said you had your "PGP keys unprobabilistically stolen" I was left scratching my head. | [12:44] |
| shinohai | New tyoe of theft to me. | [12:44] |
| anton_osika | Well the "unprobabilistic" part was my strong belief that my keys were fail-safe recoverable. | [12:46] |
| anton_osika | Hope it clarifies. | [12:46] |
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| shinohai | If you put money in your wallet and someone takes it out, do you think that is also fail-safe recoverable? | [12:51] |
| shinohai | Or say, the keys to your apartment? | [12:51] |
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| trinque | anton_osika: that is not what that word means | [12:57] |
| shinohai | http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2015/09/14/banks-decryption-keys-symphony.html?ana=twt | [12:57] |
| assbot | Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, and Bank of New York Mellon agree to hand over decrption keys to Symphony - New York Business Journal ... ( http://bit.ly/1KaGEPm ) | [12:57] |
| trinque | you are looking for "improbably" | [12:57] |
| shinohai | Bet this will be interesting. | [12:58] |
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| mircea_popescu | he was trying to say "improbably" o noes! | [13:03] |
| mircea_popescu | anyway, bbl! | [13:03] |
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