Forum logs for 14 Dec 2013
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3957 @ 0.00089665 = 3.548 BTC [+] | [05:59] |
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mircea_popescu | egypt apparently just ipo'd snow. | [06:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4846 @ 0.00090249 = 4.3735 BTC [+] | [06:11] |
Apocalyptic | heh | [06:11] |
Apocalyptic | by the way mircea, i just read one of the worst article about "why is bitcoin gonna fail" from french dudes who are otherwise sensible | [06:12] |
Apocalyptic | their main point is "when central banks decide playground is over, they'll shutdown exchanges, so value will plumet, so lulz" | [06:12] |
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Apocalyptic | i guess you have 1 more name to add to your infamous list | [06:14] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 220 @ 0.00197381 = 0.4342 BTC [-] {5} | [06:14] |
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Apocalyptic | what's even more interesting is that the guy claims to have 9 years of financial experience | [06:22] |
Apocalyptic | so he obviously knows his shit | [06:22] |
mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic you can tell them that when i decide playground is over, i'll just shut down these4 alleged "central banks" | [06:23] |
mircea_popescu | and he can use his 9 years of financial experience to get a job flipping burgers. | [06:23] |
Apocalyptic | http://reflets.info/le-saviez-vous-le-bitcoin-va-disparaitre/ | [06:24] |
Apocalyptic | if you feel like translating | [06:24] |
Apocalyptic | it's really short and dissapointing | [06:24] |
Apocalyptic | pankkake, ^^ | [06:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00090291 = 18.1485 BTC [+] {2} | [06:25] |
Namworld | I don't need to, I can just read that... | [06:29] |
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mircea_popescu | i can read french just fine | [06:32] |
Namworld | Ignorance, topped with ignorance sauce | [06:34] |
Apocalyptic | nice, it's kinda similar to romanian in some way | [06:34] |
Apocalyptic | Namworld, pretty much, have you read the comments also ? | [06:34] |
Namworld | Nope | [06:34] |
Apocalyptic | guy's acting like he has it all figured out | [06:34] |
Apocalyptic | and wtf do these noobs want | [06:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00282 = 0.2256 BTC [+] | [06:36] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00280309 = 0.1177 BTC [-] {2} | [06:45] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00090292 = 50.8344 BTC [+] {2} | [07:05] |
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mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic one bitcoin buys me at least 100 clueless noobs who have it all figured out. | [07:10] |
mircea_popescu | the other way however... not so much. clueless noobs with delusions of self importance are pretty much a buyer's market. | [07:11] |
Apocalyptic | I just don't understand where that arrogance come from given they're utterly clueless | [07:11] |
Apocalyptic | and they don't even realize it | [07:11] |
mircea_popescu | that's where. | [07:11] |
mircea_popescu | there's two types of arrogant people in the world, those who know they're much better than you and those that don't know you're any better than them. | [07:12] |
mircea_popescu | the latter are the very vast majority. | [07:12] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, if you're bored you can send them to http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ | [07:13] |
mircea_popescu | not like it's a new argument or anything. | [07:13] |
Apocalyptic | meh, they don't deserve that priv reading trilema is | [07:14] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.024 = 0.168 BTC [-] | [07:17] |
mircea_popescu | Oct 28 17:17:15
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mircea_popescu | this, of course, was oct 28 2012 :D | [07:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1499 @ 0.000519 = 0.778 BTC [-] | [07:18] |
Namworld | I don't use my MPEx account much, if at all, recently. No options at a premium I like. | [07:22] |
Apocalyptic | Namworld, you're still running btc-bond right ? | [07:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42790 @ 0.00089936 = 38.4836 BTC [-] {2} | [07:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 49 @ 0.00275 = 0.1348 BTC [-] | [07:26] |
Namworld | Yes | [07:31] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld you could write your own and list them of course | [07:33] |
mircea_popescu | (ironically, people paying for options last month made ~3k btc in aggregate) | [07:34] |
mike_c | late night thought: the market maker writes almost all the options. it would be good for mpex if more people wrote options. so, the fee (not collateral) for writing options should be low low low (maybe even free??) | [07:36] |
Namworld | I suppose I could eventually. | [07:37] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c what fee is that ? | [07:41] |
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mike_c | All MKOPT and MKFUT orders are assesed a 2% fee (SPLIT orders are free). | [07:42] |
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mircea_popescu | mike_c you can make split for free. | [07:59] |
mike_c | yeah, for double the collateral. idk.. probably a dumb late night thought. ignore me. | [08:00] |
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mircea_popescu | well the idea is that if you're marketmaking then you're marketmaking. selling puts and calls. | [08:09] |
mircea_popescu | if you are going directional then you are speculating not marketmaking. | [08:09] |
mircea_popescu | this obviously is a distinction btc people would gladly blur, but i think it'd be pretty dangerous/irresponsible to allow it just yet. | [08:10] |
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mike_c | yeah, i agree that is the correct long-term thinking. which is the way you operate. I just wish for moar liquidity at times. | [08:17] |
mircea_popescu | there's a ton of liquidity, you kidding? | [08:18] |
mircea_popescu | i guess we all wish for more liquidity at better prices, but this is probably true universally. | [08:19] |
mircea_popescu | i wish there were more airplanes for 10k a pop on the market, for instance | [08:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00296938 = 0.2969 BTC [+] {4} | [08:19] |
mike_c | not universally. there are tight spreads on some things, like s.mpoe. tight spreads on options would require hedgin though | [08:26] |
mircea_popescu | you realise the notion of tight is relative. | [08:27] |
mircea_popescu | mpoe moves relatively very little, i was just looking through early feb/march logs and it was trading 65-70 | [08:27] |
mircea_popescu | btc in march was also trading 6.5 | [08:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00089753 = 14.181 BTC [-] | [08:29] |
mike_c | spread on mpoe is 0.00000036 right now. spread over last 30 days was 1000x that. | [08:30] |
mike_c | spread of the s.mpoe share price | [08:30] |
mike_c | that seems relatively bigger than the option spreads | [08:30] |
mike_c | er, smaller. | [08:30] |
mike_c | that is obviously for less volume, but you can still move a decent amount of mpoe shares for smaller price differences. | [08:31] |
mircea_popescu | but let alone spread girth for a moment and think in avg prices. | [08:32] |
mircea_popescu | s.mpoe moved 20%ish over 9 months. btc moved 10000% over the same interval. | [08:32] |
mike_c | ok. you are saying mpoe spread over last 30 is 20% and btc is 50% (or more) | [08:32] |
mircea_popescu | obviously the spot spreads on the first will be way narrower than even the spot spreads on the 2nd | [08:32] |
mircea_popescu | let alone the OPTION spreads on the 2nd, which by their nature have to be wider than spot | [08:33] |
mike_c | yes. and obviously the option spreads are not insane since the bot gets beat up sometimes. | [08:34] |
mircea_popescu | such as last month ;/ | [08:34] |
mircea_popescu | on the other hand i can understand the disbelief, people with any experience looking at options are aghast to see mpex spreads. | [08:35] |
mircea_popescu | nevertheless, bitcoin is bitcoin. what can one do. | [08:35] |
mike_c | plus, everytime i undercut the bot's margin I get beat up :) | [08:36] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [08:36] |
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mircea_popescu | i think you may be not the first to make that experience | [08:37] |
mircea_popescu | which is why there's not so much stuff in the midmarket, in spite of mpex being unbitcoinly friendlty to free entreprise. | [08:37] |
kanzure | so it turns out that the cryptocyprus neobee-dumper should be flipped around the other way | [08:37] |
kanzure | dump when he posts on bitcointalk, buy when he posts on reddit | [08:37] |
mircea_popescu | any good drama ? | [08:38] |
kanzure | just boring drama | [08:39] |
kanzure | not worth reporting | [08:39] |
mircea_popescu | aok | [08:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.0005555 = 0.5555 BTC [-] | [08:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0008971 = 6.818 BTC [-] | [08:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00089583 = 25.128 BTC [-] {2} | [09:06] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.0008973 = 12.0687 BTC [+] {4} | [09:36] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+] | [09:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17371 @ 0.00089902 = 15.6169 BTC [+] {2} | [10:15] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.05 = 15 BTC | [10:16] |
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KRS|Gotyawallet | dat blockchain | [10:29] |
KRS|Gotyawallet | to handle the number of transactions that visa handles in 3 months the bitcoin system will require 14 Terabytes of storage space. That's 14 terabytes of hard drive space you would have to add every 85 days! https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Talk:Scalability#Disk_space | [10:29] |
mircea_popescu | notrly a new point by any means. that's why the more sensible people have been saying all along that bitcoin isn't nor does it aim to be a visa competitor. | [10:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26667 BTC [+] | [10:47] |
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mikaeldice | b0n1, there's a torrent out there somewhere with all of the Gox history up to a certain date. After that it's a matter of querying the API, which will lie sometimes, to get to the current date, and then monitoring the API for future updates | [16:39] |
mikaeldice | Also, there might be a BigTable database somewhere, if you search on that | [16:40] |
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b0n1 | mikaeldice, thanks for the advice! Do you also know of such a torrent file for stamp and btcchina? | [16:43] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5785 @ 0.00047609 = 2.7542 BTC [-] {15} | [16:44] |
mikaeldice | On that I have no idea | [16:45] |
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mircea_popescu | b0n1 but since you're talking about this, let me point out to you that this is a business model. | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | thompson financial is doing decent money simply by having collected and assembled all this data. | [16:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0025 = 0.115 BTC [-] | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | "bhagenbeekdd@metaltrade.ru 7:00 am The first-rate method to gratify your girlfriend" << dude, metal trade ? poor girlfriends. | [16:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 450 @ 0.00045203 = 0.2034 BTC [-] {2} | [16:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00090395 = 11.1186 BTC [+] {2} | [16:49] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: For the past several decades now, Thompson/Reuters have made a lot of money on this model of information that is at least in principle readily available, but intimidating to encounter in its free form. | [16:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2511 BTC [-] | [16:52] |
mircea_popescu | indeed. | [16:53] |
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BingoBoingo | In my perhaps ill advised venture into library science as a vocation, most of my classmates and professors embraced taking the offered APIs and broken datastreams as a gift to embrace. | [16:54] |
BingoBoingo | Fuck that though. | [16:55] |
KRS|Gotyawallet | word | [16:56] |
KRS|Gotyawallet | ;;seen thestringpuller | [16:57] |
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BingoBoingo | Mind you these are the same people who view backwards compatibility with the MARC standards as dogma while wanting to recreate in modern data retrieval the same limitations imposed by magnetic tape. | [16:57] |
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BingoBoingo | Available for the taking by any rando university that wants to incorporate a Stanford, Harvard, or Berkley-ness to their name by embeding themselves in an area inextricably will be the task of killing Z39.50 | [17:00] |
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mircea_popescu | i doubt anything useful, interesting or valuable is coming out of universities anymore. | [17:03] |
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mircea_popescu | kinda dead in the water, at least the anglo-saxon model. | [17:03] |
BingoBoingo | At the time Z39.50 was standardized SQL implementations were a thing. | [17:03] |
BingoBoingo | I imagine universities still come up with unique and useful things, though anyone who cares would be loath to find their release instead of simply reinventing them. | [17:04] |
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mircea_popescu | i doubt they do. they may inadvertently acquire "rights" to unrelated people's great ideas through the latter's negligence/cluelessness | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | but that's as far as it goes. | [17:06] |
BingoBoingo | At least as far as organizing information goes it is Dublin Core https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_core versus google search all over again | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | universities' capacity to create went out with the admittance of the special interest groups. | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | you can either have teachers fucking students and people being called fucktards left and right a la mit 1950s | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | or else you can have sensitivity training and one huge diaper party for mentally stunted "adults" in name only. | [17:07] |
BingoBoingo | Well, they don't do paradigmatic change as well as they used to. Many campuses in the Middle West are making great strides in turning corn into ethanol in ways that would make Jack Daniels himself turn white in shock. Try to suppose through these institutions though that there might be a better fuel than ethanol and you are stuck. | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | matybe, i'ven ot really been following the entire "green technologies" stuff. | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu | seems bunky to me, but w/e. | [17:10] |
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BingoBoingo | Well, turning corn into ethanol isn't really green in any other sense than letting Coca Cola know there might be more money in turning corn into fuel instead of soft drinks and letting the poor get Poorabetes | [17:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19738 @ 0.00090404 = 17.8439 BTC [+] | [17:17] |
BingoBoingo | Granted much of my information on this subject may be an accident of geography living in a place where news consists of advances turning corn into flamable glorious, often undrinkable booze or corrupt tax auctions http://www.bnd.com/2013/12/13/2958897/prosecutor-moves-to-cut-off-ex.html | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | a | [17:26] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC | [17:28] |
BingoBoingo | It is like your chemistry versus food rant. Some places the emphasis is so engrained that minute advances in the chemistry become deafening and people forget that maize is a weed. | [17:29] |
mircea_popescu | it's a relatively successful one, but not very. nothing like cannabis. | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | i have had the occasion to see this in nature, as romania had for over a decade a lot of ignored agricultural land. | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | both linen and corn had been long used here, and so they exist as wild species. | [17:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.27023687 = 5.4047 BTC [+] {7} | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | the corn did manage to ocasionally pick up a spot, but usualyl driven out within a couple of years | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu | the weed is NEVER driven out. | [17:32] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26989977 BTC [-] | [17:32] |
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KRS|Gotyawallet | did somebody say weed, man | [17:35] |
BingoBoingo | Soil and latitude and probably other things make a difference. It would not have been a long walk this fall to fields where corn tainted soybean fields. I'll grant it though that the soil in the fields and around them may not be soild for any natural definition of the term, but may merely be a nitrogen soaked fascimile | [17:36] |
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mircea_popescu | soybean is arguably even weaker than corn, sure. | [17:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00090219 = 20.3444 BTC [-] | [17:54] |
mircea_popescu | have you seen many wild oat fields invaded by corn ? | [17:54] |
mircea_popescu | or for that matter, Cirsium arvense ? | [17:54] |
BingoBoingo | I've seen corn in oat and wheat fields, but not invading land covered by thistles. | [17:59] |
BingoBoingo | Around here though thistles are more of a lawn pest than an agricultural pest. | [18:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00090195 = 13.7096 BTC [-] | [18:08] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.0025 = 0.24 BTC [-] {3} | [18:10] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2109 @ 0.001 = 2.109 BTC {2} | [18:11] |
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mircea_popescu | then it definuitely is a matter of soil/clime | [18:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00090219 = 26.6146 BTC [+] | [18:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33250 @ 0.00090356 = 30.0434 BTC [+] {4} | [18:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00090769 = 17.11 BTC [+] {2} | [18:43] |
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pankkake | ;;estimate | [18:59] |
gribble | Next difficulty estimate | 1083525546.32 based on data since last change | 1112665357.34 based on data for last three days | [18:59] |
pankkake | no one really talking about the sc2 match on bitcointalk. not sure where I could promote the bet… | [18:59] |
pankkake | (and not act like a vile spammer) | [18:59] |
Apocalyptic | which bet pankkake ? | [19:00] |
pankkake | http://bitbet.us/bet/660/scarlett-to-win-starcraft-2-showmatch-against-naniwa/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK | [19:01] |
ozbot | BitBet - "Scarlett" to win StarCraft 2 showmatch against Naniwa | [19:01] |
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mircea_popescu | maybe on some venue where sf2 is big | [19:05] |
pankkake | oh, there are many, but I don't have an account on those places | [19:05] |
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pankkake | teamliquid is THE place | [19:05] |
pankkake | or the starcraft subreddit | [19:05] |
pankkake | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=437238 hehe! | [19:07] |
ozbot | TL Store: Now accepting Bitcoin | [19:07] |
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pankkake | and I realize I probably bet on the wrong horse :( | [19:13] |
pankkake | plus scarlett has many fans so it would be probably more lucrative to bet on the other one | [19:14] |
Namworld | whut? | [19:21] |
Namworld | What the heck are you talking about, pankkake? | [19:22] |
pankkake | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2013#421644 | [19:22] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [19:22] |
pankkake | just spammed teamliquid | [19:23] |
Namworld | I see | [19:26] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00278629 = 0.5043 BTC [+] {2} | [19:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.0009078 = 10.1674 BTC [+] {2} | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu | im surprised sc2 tournaments are still a big thing | [19:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00265893 = 0.452 BTC [-] {5} | [19:28] |
pankkake | league of legends (aka LoL. lol) is a bigger thing apparently | [19:29] |
pankkake | still I enjoy watching sc2, even if I don't really play it | [19:29] |
pankkake | mostly this guy: https://www.youtube.com/user/PsyStarcraft/videos because of the live play and all the rage and bad manner | [19:30] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25500123 = 0.51 BTC [-] | [19:34] |
pankkake | http://blog.oleganza.com/post/69887761276/bitcoin-value-proposition | [19:35] |
ozbot | Oleg Andreev - Bitcoin Value Proposition | [19:35] |
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thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: has never been to korea | [19:41] |
asciilifeform | hell, wc2 (!) is still played in russia. | [19:41] |
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pankkake | http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/14/obamacoin-promises-change/ | [19:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC | [19:52] |
thestringpuller | asciilifeform: lol wc2 | [19:55] |
thestringpuller | how old are you? | [19:55] |
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asciilifeform | thestringpuller: ~30 | [19:57] |
asciilifeform | but i was young once | [19:57] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading | [20:14] |
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mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/youre-gonna-have-to-learn-that-variety-speak/ | [20:14] |
ozbot | You’re gonna have to learn that variety speak pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [20:14] |
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Namworld | lol, that coinion article. | [20:29] |
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ThickAsThieves | nice article mp, would be interesting if you turn out proven correct | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | get your hollywood friends to read it anyway. | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | spiel says hollyowood's dogfood, and he has a point. they gotta do something. | [21:07] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 94 @ 0.024 = 2.256 BTC [-] {2} | [21:18] |
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dexX7 | https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo "Trade 93 Altcoins to join rich elite !!!" lol | [21:24] |
ozbot | Ad info | [21:24] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.05 = 1.35 BTC | [21:28] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC | [21:29] |
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mircea_popescu | anyone remember Elite ? the game publiosher | [21:31] |
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pankkake | "join the rich elite" was the mcxnow motto or something | [21:37] |
pankkake | that one is a cryptsy reflink, lel | [21:37] |
FabianB | ;;bc,stats | [21:38] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 274910 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1281 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 11 hours, 16 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1098769491.01 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.96311 | [21:38] |
dexX7 | and also "Goat says ch00o0o00 ch0000o000o00o0!!!1!!" linking to an article about bitcoin and what greenspan said. funny rotation | [21:40] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.261 BTC [+] | [21:46] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;later tell oleganza what's the point of a blog w/o a comment section ? | [21:52] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [21:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5851 @ 0.00090332 = 5.2853 BTC [-] | [22:05] |
mikaeldice | damn, yet another dice site launched.. mine is going to be just a coin in the wishing well by the time it's done | [22:06] |
pankkake | try to find something unique | [22:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 122 @ 0.0024761 = 0.3021 BTC [-] {2} | [22:07] |
mikaeldice | I'm not too worried about this one.. "How Does Dicelead Proof Us Each Roll Is Legitimate? dicelead is provably fair which mean you can verfiy each roll is absolutely fair ,so we are only run dicelead.com for fair purpose and no way to change any result of it" ah, well, okay then | [22:09] |
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BingoBoingo | Well, I mean the problem with new dice sites is that the barrier of entry is high. Just-Dice got to eat Satoshi-Dice's lunch because it offered something very different and in many ways better. SatoshiDice's new tribute game is going no where because... In spite of their establish name the new game just sucks. | [22:11] |
asciilifeform | i still think the phootoore of btc games is battles of wits, not luck | [22:12] |
asciilifeform | if one wishes to gamble, there's always daytrade | [22:12] |
mikaeldice | I have addressed a couple of small problems that other games haven't, but I'm not at all convinced that it'll stand up to the signal:noise ratio with so many sites out there now. Time will tell eventually | [22:13] |
kanzure | strike a deal with a physical casino | [22:14] |
mikaeldice | This new site, for example, has some clear flaws. 1% house edge with no commission, but they give away bitcoins every hour and promise 50% commission to all referrals. The math doesn't add up. | [22:15] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC | [22:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9301 @ 0.00090195 = 8.389 BTC [-] | [22:41] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25500221 BTC [-] | [22:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00090226 = 9.4737 BTC [+] | [22:58] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.24960049 = 9.7344 BTC [-] {13} | [23:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16104 @ 0.00090102 = 14.51 BTC [-] {2} | [23:18] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25891833 = 0.5178 BTC [+] | [23:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.02310034 = 0.5313 BTC [-] {5} | [23:32] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24510221 BTC [-] | [23:33] |
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mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355169.msg3836323#msg3836323 | [23:44] |
ozbot | Two years of forum ads: get cheap forum ads for a limited time | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | check that out, forum ads are dead. | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | apparently you can't mismanage a property into the shit for 2+ years and then have it survive. who knew! | [23:45] |
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mircea_popescu | mikaeldice it's a coin in the well already, and has been since summer 2012. | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | as the othersd say, gotta be great, and more importantly gotta be someone first. | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo it first and foremost got a chance because dooglus. it'd have died an ignominable death if almost anyone else'd have tried an exact copy. | [23:46] |
pankkake | why does the forum need ads, they have so many btc already | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake had, perhaps. | [23:47] |
pankkake | right, this is bitcoin | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, he's got https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355169.msg3916044#msg3916044 | [23:48] |
mircea_popescu | aka spare change. | [23:48] |
mircea_popescu | worst insult of all, nobody in the actual biz paid him even the equivalent of a bit into cheeseburger. | [23:48] |
mircea_popescu | it's a case study in how to fuck up, this. | [23:48] |
pankkake | lol, I could have bought one | [23:49] |
pankkake | I'd pay 0.05 BTC just to say "butts" | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | you could have, but apparently you don't gas. | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | anyone know Bitgo btw ? | [23:49] |
Duffer1 | looks like a way too complicated localbitcoins | [23:51] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0009007 = 23.8686 BTC [-] | [23:54] |
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mircea_popescu | yeah i don;'t quite grok what it's supposed to be. thought maybe the owner is here. | [23:58] |
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FabianB | looks like a webwallet to me | [23:59] |
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