Forum logs for 13 Feb 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48500 @#64; 0.00040275 = 19.5334 BTC [-] {2} | [13:39] |
thestringpuller | mod6: if I upgrade openssl will I be able get past the wedge? | [13:46] |
thestringpuller | kinda annoyed @#64; the power rangers rite meow | [13:46] |
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mod6 | thestringpuller: ben & I were able to pass it once we upgraded to v1.0.1g | [13:47] |
mod6 | thestringpuller: dont forget to give us a paste of the info though! plzkthx | [13:48] |
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mircea_popescu | mike_c: oddly hypnotic: http://i.imgur.com/JHBwH3f.jpg << o great | [13:51] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1A4iEIF ) | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c: jurov: you're three right of mircea. thestringpuller is crowding you with his long name. << write names inclined 30 degrees ? | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | jurov: lol why us? << chick's been reading trilema, http://trilema.com/2013/paid-content/#comment-112142 i guess this is her trying to be funnay. | [13:56] |
assbot | Paid content pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1A4jIMG ) | [13:56] |
mircea_popescu | moral being, don't try to be funnay with people you don't know, it never works. | [13:56] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell brendafdez: ^facebook^bitcoin << the posix format for this is /facebook/bitcoin/ in reference to the sed command. | [13:57] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [13:57] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation: I remember using the boost/bdb that was available on the ports << if you could document what you did exactly it'd prolly save people time. | [14:00] |
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mike_c | write names inclined 30 degrees << it's a circle, so that only helps depending on where you get placed on the circle. i'm still poking at it though. | [14:01] |
chetty | http://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/tweeting-for-treatment-in-venezuela/38656.article | [14:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11638 @#64; 0.00040227 = 4.6816 BTC [-] | [14:08] |
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thestringpuller | ;;seen mike_c | [14:09] |
gribble | mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 minutes and 9 seconds ago: |
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thestringpuller | mike_c: you around? | [14:09] |
thestringpuller | oh 1157 EST, i'm blind ~_~ | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | !up rucoi_ | [14:10] |
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mike_c | what's up | [14:10] |
thestringpuller | I've been using force layout via d3 to graph the lord's nodes | [14:10] |
thestringpuller | the centric dependency graph may get crazy | [14:11] |
mike_c | yeah, you need a serious package to handle a lot of nodes/edges. igraph is the only i've found that does a good job so far. | [14:12] |
thestringpuller | I'm able to get 500 nodes with interactivity. | [14:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @#64; 0.00040548 = 9.4071 BTC [+] | [14:13] |
thestringpuller | i was thinking of rendering as force layout without interactivity and then dumping the resulting SVG | [14:14] |
thestringpuller | then at least all nodes would be spaced | [14:14] |
mike_c | yeah, but you don't get a sense of tiers unless you use a tree layout | [14:14] |
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mike_c | the one i posted is.. reingold/tilford with the radial layout instead of top-down | [14:16] |
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thestringpuller | mike_c you can with nodes: cookiechief.com/wotviz | [14:17] |
mike_c | yeah, for l1 :) | [14:18] |
thestringpuller | each node spawns from a central point kinda like orbits | [14:18] |
thestringpuller | yea l2 will spawn from the orbits around l1 | [14:18] |
thestringpuller | it's just an adjustment in force | [14:18] |
mike_c | when you add l2 it wants to do things like put nanotube way off by himself because he has a bajillion out nodes | [14:18] |
thestringpuller | ah d3 respond that way, it uses a different force algrotihm | [14:19] |
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mircea_popescu | mike_c not necessarily bad is it ? | [14:21] |
mike_c | depends what you mean. you lose all sense of l1, l2 | [14:21] |
thestringpuller | mike_c: I can apply the data to tilford style tree: http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/4063550 | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | ah that. ok ok nm, im not going to speak on things i don't have before eyes. | [14:21] |
thestringpuller | kinda like "tree of life" | [14:21] |
mike_c | thestringpuller: remember though, it's not just a tree, it's a forest | [14:22] |
mike_c | lot's of ratings between l1 members for example | [14:22] |
thestringpuller | http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/1153292 << yea hence why that particular part is easier with a node graph | [14:25] |
thestringpuller | i'm terrible with d3 tho, it's just easy to represent data interactively with it. | [14:25] |
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thestringpuller | I'll ;;later you what I come up with for L2 arrangement. These are interesting points to consider. | [14:28] |
mike_c | cool | [14:29] |
thestringpuller | lol playing with graphs. :P And you say you and academia don't get along. | [14:30] |
mike_c | hm. maybe it was just the wrong academia. shit gets published in here, peer reviewed, etc. i guess that's a lot like academia. | [14:32] |
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thestringpuller | :D | [14:38] |
ben_vulpes | peer review, testing in production, what's the difference anyways | [14:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @#64; 0.00040227 = 5.0686 BTC [-] | [14:48] |
thestringpuller | ben_vulpes: you are the only advocate of cowboy coding I know of | [14:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @#64; 0.00040193 = 15.0523 BTC [-] {2} | [14:55] |
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ben_vulpes | thestringpuller: when have i ever done such?! | [14:59] |
thestringpuller | "Something something client asked me to change something on live server something something something in the logs." :) | [15:00] |
ben_vulpes | come back with actual citations, troll | [15:00] |
thestringpuller | !s from:ben_vulpes production | [15:00] |
assbot | 15 results for 'from:ben_vulpes production' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aben_vulpes+production | [15:00] |
ben_vulpes | glhf | [15:01] |
thestringpuller | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#977678 << :D | [15:01] |
ben_vulpes | ... | [15:02] |
ben_vulpes | i thought the automation was implicit. | [15:02] |
kakobrekla | what is this monologue, is noise hole polluting ? | [15:02] |
ben_vulpes | i can't tell if it's me or thestringpuller on your ignore list kakobrekla | [15:02] |
thestringpuller | everyone is on kakobrekla's ignore list | [15:03] |
kakobrekla | i can see you | [15:03] |
ben_vulpes | i guess that answers that | [15:03] |
kakobrekla | !rated thestringpuller | [15:03] |
assbot | You rated user thestringpuller on 17-Oct-2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: noise hole.. | [15:03] |
kakobrekla | yeah see | [15:04] |
ben_vulpes | ok ok i'll do my own research next time | [15:04] |
thestringpuller | jus' like high school :D | [15:06] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @#64; 0.00040592 = 7.2254 BTC [+] {2} | [16:01] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 760 @#64; 0.00972077 = 7.3878 BTC [-] {9} | [16:09] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 500 @#64; 0.01199429 = 5.9971 BTC [+] {3} | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | !up rucoi | [16:23] |
-assbot- | You voiced rucoi for 30 minutes. | [16:23] |
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mircea_popescu | Subject: Unusual activity in your American Express account From: "American Express" |
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mircea_popescu | these would have to be quite unusual, i never owned an amex card. | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | To secure your account , please click http://mail.amex.com/http://tarik4.awardspace.com/americanexpress/amex.html | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | imagine this. amex is retarded enough to actually allow this. | [16:26] |
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mircea_popescu | Received: from 64-178-159-35.eastlink.ca ([64.178.159.35]:63005 helo=amex.com) | [16:27] |
mircea_popescu | *: asciilifeform presently thinks that bitcoind should only ever be build statically << this is correct. consensus systems may NOT pull dynamic links. ever. | [16:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30210 @#64; 0.00040302 = 12.1752 BTC [-] {2} | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu | punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << you mean in the blockchain ? the thing's actually coherent. | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu | " Look at how many responses you have received! And only because you are so blindingly stubborn and /wrong/. Be right about something, and nobody says a word, write something insightful that required much thought on your end, and you are guaranteed silence (but occasionally some uplifting mail)." | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | awww poor naggum. | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | "But say something utterly boneheaded that pisses people off simply because it is so stupid that people who make such rabid mistakes must be corrected, and you get to control the whole goddamn agenda in the newsgroup for a while." | [16:35] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZD4ezDbbu4 | [16:35] |
assbot | Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vIN1pB ) | [16:35] |
mircea_popescu | punkman: I wonder what the liberally sprinkled "CRITICAL_BLOCK" does << it acquires a blocking lock | [16:37] |
mircea_popescu | can't update OR READ the locked matter until released | [16:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28841 @#64; 0.00040853 = 11.7824 BTC [+] | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | assbot: France calls for strong regulation of Bitcoin in EU counter-terrorist financing laws following Charlie Hebdo incident and an end to anonymous financial transactions << yes very logical. | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | france keeps at this there will be a permanent bounty on dead french statesmen, in Bitcoin. and eventually, a dead France. | [16:52] |
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mircea_popescu | !up JimJamReid | [16:55] |
-assbot- | You voiced JimJamReid for 30 minutes. | [16:55] |
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JimJamReid | Hi All, I am currently conducting interviews for my university research paper on using Bitcoin as an alternative to traditional currencies, would anyone be interested in participating? | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | ask, don't ask to ask. | [16:57] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @#64; 0.00041048 = 9.2768 BTC [+] | [17:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14491 @#64; 0.00041048 = 5.9483 BTC [+] | [17:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4059 @#64; 0.0004149 = 1.6841 BTC [+] | [17:24] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37391 @#64; 0.0004184 = 15.6444 BTC [+] {2} | [17:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4209 @#64; 0.00042115 = 1.7726 BTC [+] | [17:32] |
mod6 | A static build on debian 6 + v0.5.3 + patches { 1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 7 } + openssl v1.0.1g failed: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=P0Yt9c2U | [17:32] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/19fGpoo ) | [17:32] |
mod6 | This might be a show-stopper, will for sure need to fix before release. | [17:33] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [17:33] |
mod6 | Might need some help on these ones for sure. | [17:35] |
trinque | just looks like you need something in your library path | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | "How you can hire me: You can't. I don't work for money. Money is a technology that destroys trust. Its entire purpose is to short-circuit human relationships in order to insert itself as a middleman. It makes everybody spend more money, at more emotional cost, for things that make us angry at each other. Don't offer to pay me. Seriously. If you offer me money, I will decline on principle." | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | check out guy with a half notion of the problem, and a thoroughly broken nonsolution | [17:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @#64; 0.00042585 = 11.3915 BTC [+] {4} | [17:38] |
trinque | mod6: lots of chatter about "can't find -lgcc_s" on teh googles | [17:38] |
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mod6 | thanks trinque | [17:40] |
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thestringpuller | mike_c: http://cookiechief.com/wotviz/ << This is what sheer number of L2 users creates. Trying to modify users force but with default settings as you said it loses sight of L2, but that's cause sheer number of users in L2. | [17:47] |
thestringpuller | loses sight of differentiation from L1 -> L2 | [17:47] |
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thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: http://cookiechief.com/wotviz/index_mp.html << version just for you :P | [17:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49773 @#64; 0.00042736 = 21.271 BTC [+] {2} | [17:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @#64; 0.00041963 = 19.5128 BTC [-] | [17:59] |
thestringpuller | !gettrust assbot topace | [18:00] |
assbot | Trust relationship from user assbot to user topace: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/topace | http://w.b-a.link/user/topace | [18:00] |
thestringpuller | !gettrust assbot jgarzik | [18:00] |
assbot | Trust relationship from user assbot to user jgarzik: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/jgarzik | http://w.b-a.link/user/jgarzik | [18:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @#64; 0.00042795 = 4.3223 BTC [+] | [18:03] |
thestringpuller | yea assbot/wind 3 | [18:05] |
thestringpuller | >:( | [18:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16594 @#64; 0.00042795 = 7.1014 BTC [+] | [18:10] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @#64; 0.00040051 = 6.9288 BTC [-] {2} | [18:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12352 @#64; 0.00042795 = 5.286 BTC [+] | [18:39] |
asciilifeform | 'How you can hire me: You can't. I don't work for money....' << wai wat ??! | [18:39] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: amex is retarded enough to actually allow this << allow what? | [18:41] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform redirect to outside website. | [18:42] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: it doesn't... | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | uh... | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | how is this scam supposed to work then ?! | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | (i confess didn't bother to click) | [18:42] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: buggy spamatron | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | roflmao | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | mabe they had the hole and fixed it ? | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | re the "you can't" derp : he spends about half the page trying to beg for donations. because hey, money is only dirty if you actually EARN it. otherwise's fine. http://maymay.net/#how-you-can-support-me | [18:43] |
assbot | Meitar "maymay" Moscovitz: The Information Age equivalent of Johnny Appleseed ... ( http://bit.ly/1vJ5yC9 ) | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | in any case, i guess he never heard of whats-her-face, the supposed cali "poet" that did essentially the same but in the 70s, and died recently in abject poverty. | [18:44] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: not impossible. amex spends a pretty penny on (what passes for) spam and crapware control. | [18:44] |
mircea_popescu | was discussed here, forgot her name. untalented as all shit, too; | [18:44] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: where do you even find these... i could have lived and died without ever knowing about this fella | [18:45] |
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danielpbarron | i know a guy who lives just like that; out of his car, refusing to work for money but not against taking handouts | [18:49] |
asciilifeform | there are beggar-kings who earn more than any, e.g., programmer | [18:50] |
mike_c | thestringpuller: quite a hairball :) | [18:50] |
mike_c | asciilifeform: did you see the other day that stemming got turned off? | [18:50] |
mike_c | you were in the field. | [18:50] |
asciilifeform | aha, neato | [18:52] |
mike_c | it does seem to work now | [18:52] |
asciilifeform | speaking of which, someone asked which robotic vacuum cleaner it was that had decent software. it was the one made by 'neato robotics co.' | [18:52] |
danielpbarron | wtf the dude has bigger tits than the hentai chick at the top of his page.. or is that also supposed to be a dude?? | [18:54] |
asciilifeform | cthonian horror | [18:54] |
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thestringpuller | mike_c: I don't know how one would do Reingold-Tilford that has multiple dependencies | [19:04] |
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asciilifeform | re: the question of ripping out 'boost': not happening short of a total rewrite. it's used for virtually all iteration constructs, heterogeneous data structures, and 100 other things in the turd. | [19:08] |
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asciilifeform | srsly, whoever asked that, read the damn thing. there's conceptually by far more 'boost' than straight cpp in there. | [19:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @#64; 0.00042727 = 4.6786 BTC [-] | [19:10] |
thestringpuller | asciilifeform: i was wondering what was up with all the for loops trying to be python-like | [19:11] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @#64; 0.00042727 = 4.9777 BTC [-] | [19:13] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i reach far! | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu | danielpbarron stop oppressing dragons with your self-unaware patriarchical gender stereotypes. | [19:26] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform there's conceptually by far more 'boost' than straight cpp in there. << i for one am thankful it's not mostly javascript. | [19:38] |
mircea_popescu | if you think about it, riding on qt "for the gui" is not so different from riding on the browser. | [19:38] |
mircea_popescu | we should count outselves lucky satoshi didn't implement bitcoin prototype as a fucking greasemonkey script. | [19:38] |
danielpbarron | i don't think i've ever actually used the qt client | [19:39] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37794 @#64; 0.00042374 = 16.0148 BTC [-] {4} | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | mod6: it'd be awesome because then derps would give up and go and play with hula-hoops << technically speaking this is what's happening already. | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | Adlai: good dad, just keep walking down this road! << a winner is you, srsly. | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | danielpbarron: is there any evidence to suggest that << nope. | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | danielpbarron: it's a possibility though, right? << yeah, but from all i've seen it's a very remote one. | [19:42] |
Adlai | ? | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | it's won, what. your dad will eventually get it. | [19:46] |
Adlai | well i imagine that when it happens, nobody will be able to not get it, because it'll happen rather happeningly | [19:47] |
Adlai | so "eventually" isn't good enough | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | not your place to make ~that~ call. | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | the part that actually is your place, is done. welcome to parenting! | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | (it sucks) | [19:49] |
Adlai | it's funny/sad how parenting reverses over time | [19:49] |
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mircea_popescu | i guess so huh. | [19:50] |
asciilifeform | for what 'qt' does, there is no real alternative (other than 'wx', which is arguably even more of a cthonian horror in some ways) | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | browser is an alternative. | [19:51] |
asciilifeform | now, did the thing -need- a cross-platfom gui? don't ask me, i've never used it... | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | c code is cross-plantrofm. | [19:51] |
asciilifeform | gui, remember | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | this is not the correct approach. make bitcoin, then let everyone make their own guis. | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | people DID make their own miners. | [19:53] |
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asciilifeform | lol, i still don't know why it needed the gui at all | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | kinda same reason women need tits. | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | not like they wouldn't work without em. | [20:01] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;later tell rucoi fix your bouncer | [20:02] |
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asciilifeform | if i could fork myself, i'd be severely tempted to: attempt an ada bitcoind. | [20:03] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: re: could you imaginge if Gavin was magically replaced by ryanxcharles? | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | i'd have thoughjt a cl bitcoind | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | or for that matter a c bitcoind (as opposed to cpp) | [20:05] |
thestringpuller | the original qt uses MFC stuff | [20:06] |
thestringpuller | Satoshi sure did like windows. | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | i suspect ti's a case very close to the ida situation asciilifeform was deploring last week | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | we're so fucking lucky satoshi wasn't any good with code. | [20:07] |
asciilifeform | i suspect that mircea_popescu would actually like ada. not writing it, mind you, but seeing it written | [20:08] |
BingoBoingo | !b 2 | [20:08] |
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mircea_popescu | i'm not entirely unfamiliar. | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | !s ada from:mircea | [20:08] |
assbot | 1 results for 'ada from:mircea' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ada+from%3Amircea | [20:08] |
asciilifeform | naggum's -other- lang. the only one other than cl that had not only a standard but a -rationale document- for every page | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | hm. | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | i thought i musta mentioned it | [20:08] |
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asciilifeform | still used for genuinely safety-critical systems worldwide (virtually all jet engine controllers, etc.) - language from hell, required you to specify ranges for integers, and the like | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | uh. what typed language doesn't ?! | [20:09] |
asciilifeform | i confess that i rather like it... | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | going int blabla; says : blabla between 0 and 65535 or w/e | [20:09] |
asciilifeform | nononono - explicitly. | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | listen, everything in a program is explicit. whethr the user is aware or not of this... | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | no means yes. yes means anal. it's how computiong works. | [20:11] |
asciilifeform | as in 'this one is odd and between 3 and 15 and if it ever isn't, pump in the halon | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | not that i disagree with the principle of making people verbalize the stuff they're abotu to do. | [20:11] |
asciilifeform | http://cs.fit.edu/~ryan/ada/programs << examples | [20:12] |
assbot | Ada Programs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cpq1LF ) | [20:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @#64; 0.00042927 = 14.6381 BTC [+] | [20:12] |
asciilifeform | ugly, pascal-like, but extraordinarily well-specified and strict to the point of bdsm | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | lol so yest someone hit trilema in what originally looked like a ddos, except... single ip ? ~1mn pageloads ? | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | turns out it's http://anti-hacker-alliance.com/index.php?details=74.121.38.141 | [20:13] |
assbot | The Anti Hacker Alliance fights against 74.121.38.141 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cpqb5O ) | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | now wtf is "shutterfly" | [20:14] |
mircea_popescu | and wtf is "the anti hacker alliance" | [20:14] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: apparently, a defunct (?) print house? - hacked box | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | derps. world is full of derps. | [20:15] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: while the latter appears to be an erzats 'spamhaus' ? | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | oh, xrumer harvester. | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | lmao idiots. | [20:16] |
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mircea_popescu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaGvcAOcA_s << cuties. | [20:23] |
assbot | Ансамбль "Белое злато" - Казаченька молода - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1D60h9X ) | [20:23] |
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mircea_popescu | they'd be a lot better if drunk imo. | [20:24] |
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TheNewDeal | ;;Nethash | [20:28] |
gribble | 309409813.454 | [20:28] |
TheNewDeal | Ewww | [20:29] |
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mircea_popescu | http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ro/2011/10/adventures-in-depression.html << holy shit, this actually happens ? | [20:41] |
assbot | Hyperbole and a Half: Adventures in Depression ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpvMce ) | [20:41] |
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thestringpuller | can't wait to read on qntra one day: "Gavin Admits to Being USG Agent, Leaves Bitcoin Forever" | [20:48] |
mircea_popescu | qntra is about news, you're thinking more in terms of daytime tv drama. | [20:50] |
mircea_popescu | at this point i'm not even sure gavin jumping off the coq d'argent would qualify as bitcoin news. | [20:50] |
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mircea_popescu | !up Stunna | [20:55] |
-assbot- | You voiced Stunna for 30 minutes. | [20:55] |
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mircea_popescu | https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << look at that, for once qntra traffic graph is not thrown by some social media spike so you8 can actually see some pattern | [21:00] |
assbot | Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast | [21:00] |
cazalla | feb is on track to be another record month | [21:04] |
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mircea_popescu | o srsly ? | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | coolness | [21:08] |
* | mircea_popescu makes a note that should anyone wish to "see studies" supporting the proposition of http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ (ie, that *EVERYTHING* published in English is junk, and to be discarded out of hand), I intend to use http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/10/jama_deludes.html | [21:09] |
assbot | How to deal with pseudoscience ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpB87s ) | [21:09] |
assbot | The Last Psychiatrist: What Political Propaganda Looks Like ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpB9s2 ) | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | absolutely perfect example of the pseudoscientific nature of American "science". | [21:09] |
asciilifeform | http://www.ada95.ch/index.php?page=morris << unrelated lulz | [21:10] |
assbot | Ada95.ch - morris ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpBeMc ) | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform minor nitpick : all these people that never ever head foreman'd a construction yard shjould stfu about "tools". the tools used to build a skyscraper are, by and large, cheaper, more worn versions of the expensive DIY crap. | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | exactly like how the rifles used to fight actual wars are nothing like the crazy-shit-stick-on-all-sides "amateur" rifles. | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | and unrelatedly, http://pretendyoure.xyz | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | shit it's dead. | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | "4. if you have the intellectual and physical capacity to single-handedly deal with your program, it's a toy " <<< sheeit alf, what nao ? | [21:14] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 145 @#64; 0.01199999 = 1.74 BTC [+] | [21:17] |
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BingoBoingo | punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << For the time being... empirically. There a set with six year's worth a data to test against by syncing. | [21:24] |
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mike_c | those qntra spikes are important though. 1% of the flash traffic sticks around and becomes regular reader | [21:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @#64; 0.00042605 = 7.6476 BTC [-] | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | but the spikes are never 100x the averae traffic. usually 10-15x | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | so using your numbers... they're actually unimportant. | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, firefox spontaneously combusts unattended on a 4 day old system. and they call this software. | [21:35] |
BingoBoingo | !up whaack | [21:36] |
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mike_c | RENT just passed one year | [21:36] |
BingoBoingo | whaack> can i have an up! por favor << He said please | [21:36] |
whaack | i did indeed | [21:37] |
mike_c | ben_vulpes: RENT is on big bull run | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | !t h rent | [21:40] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00935000 / 0.01054944 / 0.01200000 (2246 shares, 23.69404349 BTC), 7D: 0.00851001 / 0.01030218 / 0.01200000 (2730 shares, 28.12494993 BTC), 30D: 0.00505000 / 0.00827112 / 0.01200000 (7238 shares, 59.86634509 BTC) | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | what was it back around 700 usd/ btc ? like 3 ish ? | [21:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2985 @#64; 0.00075004 = 2.2389 BTC [-] {7} | [21:41] |
mike_c | floated around 0045 for a long time | [21:41] |
whaack | how / where can I find more bitcoin stock markets like MPex? | [21:41] |
mike_c | nowhere | [21:41] |
whaack | no smaller ones? | [21:41] |
BingoBoingo | not if you are comparing like things | [21:43] |
mike_c | try this one: https://btct.co/ | [21:44] |
assbot | BTC-TC: BTC Trading Corp ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpWm6H ) | [21:44] |
kakobrekla | > They were called Virtual Currencies, now many prefer to call them Digital Currency or Crypto Currency. | [21:45] |
kakobrekla | lol | [21:45] |
kakobrekla | helluva argument | [21:46] |
mike_c | "The site broke new ground for security in the space, integrating Yubikey and Google Authenticator" | [21:47] |
whaack | lmfao | [21:47] |
mike_c | !gettrust assbot burnside | [21:48] |
assbot | Trust relationship from user assbot to user burnside: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/burnside | http://w.b-a.link/user/burnside | [21:48] |
kakobrekla | whaack https://bitfunder.com < also still up | [21:49] |
assbot | BitFunder.Com - Join the crowd, every BIT helps! ... ( http://bit.ly/1yz3Fm9 ) | [21:49] |
mircea_popescu | and of course once that crashes it brings down the networking stack, which on ubuntu can NOT actually be restarted, mostly because it fucks up dbus and everything else. | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | in other words : i have nfi why we care so much about systemd, in fact linux has been fucked over for years now, by completely unrelated crapolade like ubunbtu. | [21:50] |
whaack | how many people in here have read the bitcoin core code? would anyone here consider to know it well? | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | !isup glbse.com | [21:51] |
BingoBoingo | whaack: I had to chop mine up these past few days. It's C++ you search the text and nuke shit that you dun like. | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | whaack do yourselv a favour and read the logs for an actual result, rather than !imperative all over the place and a) not get anything except for b) marking yourself for termination. | [21:54] |
BingoBoingo | [21:54] | |
mircea_popescu | there still is no substitute for homework. "socializing" not only fails to substitute, but actually has serious counterindications. | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo heh i guess itis. | [21:55] |
whaack | fair enough | [21:56] |
BingoBoingo | Dis-Able was first born. Disable spend many years in the shadows ruining sound and making daemon no one wanted. Pain came into the world with a bang out of Africa, promised ease at the cost of nothing working as expectabru. Two years ago they each decided to play the other's part and now systemd is loud while ubuntu silent becomes the quiet daemon that breaks apps in the background. | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | you should go into impressionism, this is chilling. | [21:59] |
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mircea_popescu | http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/10/how_to_get_rich_in_psychiatry.html << there's little quite as endearing as the misty excitement of a noob stockpicker. | [22:01] |
assbot | The Last Psychiatrist: How To Get Rich In Psychiatry (update on stocks) ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpY4oC ) | [22:01] |
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BingoBoingo | n00b stockpicker me from freshman year of college really should have held those Sun shares through to the buyout instead of playing the hi-lo game | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | nene | [22:15] |
BingoBoingo | I bought at $3.80-ish Oracle bought at $16 ish | [22:16] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: ...sheeit alf, what nao << not my fault if the poor sod contracted 'brainwater' and can't hold systems in his head | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:17] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: brings down the networking stack... fucks up dbus and everything else... nfi why we care so much about systemd, in fact linux has been fucked over for years now << you will find that the ubuntu 'stack' that can 'go down' consists almost wholly of poetteringisms | [22:18] |
asciilifeform | 'dbus' is unofficially but quite thoroughly a poetteringism, for instance | [22:18] |
asciilifeform | other observation is that 'ubuntu' (with the above atrocities and many others) is no more 'linux' than wintel 'is what a computer is' | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | which is why i said. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | it's like syphilis patient getting really excited about a phase 3 lesion on his nose. | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | dude... srsly missed the boat on that whole health thing. | [22:20] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: what possessed you to set up the experiment described earlier? | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | not my machine. | [22:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7523 @#64; 0.00042605 = 3.2052 BTC [-] | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | "hey mp, wtf happened to my laptop ?" | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | what am i going to do now, corner time on knees ? | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | not about to do that. girl's 19, and more importantly ITS REALLY NOT HER GOD DAMNED FAULT. | [22:22] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: gurl enlisted with ubuntu machine? or forcibly deloused of winblows upon induction ? | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | latter. | [22:41] |
asciilifeform | aha, guessed as much. | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | not precisely inducted either. it's a process. | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | 27.153.187.242 - - [13/Feb/2015:17:04:50 -0500] "GET /2013/what-is-art/%22%7C%22--%22%7C%22--%22%7C%22--%22%7C%22--%22%7C%22--%22 HTTP/1.1" 404 28932 "http://trilema.com/2013/what-is-art/"|"--"|"--"|"--"|"--"|"--"" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)" | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | for my curiosity, what is this supposed to even be ? like a sql injection ? | [22:43] |
BingoBoingo | That would be my guess | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | and what, "enough" similar magic units to "do the job" ? looks like people try to hack like psychs try to medicate. | [22:51] |
mircea_popescu | "hey, --" didn't do anything on it's own, but what if you add another ?!?! | [22:51] |
BingoBoingo | Could also be they might have been trying to trigger a resource intensive search? | [22:54] |
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mircea_popescu | mebbe i guess. | [22:56] |
mircea_popescu | http://31.media.tumblr.com/7be0f7b7783c8a86fc50a08c5cf2ca70/tumblr_ne2ak2Mm1u1tatbbfo1_400.gif | [22:56] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1yzgzRi ) | [22:57] |
BingoBoingo | I'm just watching the blocks sync and thinking to the history I and verifying as it passed. Solidly in the S.Dice era nao | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | it's fascinating innit! | [22:57] |
BingoBoingo | It's soothing. | [22:58] |
BingoBoingo | After smashing my head these past few days through the painful part of the learing process... The software is now working for me instead of I for it. | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | "A similar example is the often cited myth that diagnosis of bipolar disorder is frequently missed. A survey found that 69% of patients were actually misdiagnosed, most often as having regular depression. An average of 4 physicians were consulted “prior to receiving the correct diagnosis.” But who is to say what is the correct diagnosis, when the diagnosis is based on vague and overlapping descriptions (and not | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | on objective pathology?) You can look at this the other way, and say only 1 out of 5 psychiatrists felt it was bipolar disorder, while the other 80% thought it was depression. So it pays to have the last word. Bipolar disorder is “frequently missed” not because it exists and doctors miss it, but because it is defined in a way which allows it, by 80% of doctors, to be legitimately called something else. The onl | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | y way to say the diagnosis was correct or incorrect, in the absence of objective pathology, is to say that the treatment they received for “bipolar disorder” from the fifth doctor was better (read: safer or more efficacious) than the treatment they received from the first four. This is not evident. " | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | fucking gold, this. | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | this, incidentally, is EXACTLY the mechanism through which "80% of rapes are unreported". | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | out of five women that weren't raped, only one runs into idiots spouting insane troll logic that convinces her she retroactively was. | [23:01] |
BingoBoingo | Re: bipolar - no one complains about feeling manic until the police get involved. Plenty of people spend lots of money of coffee and bolivian marching poweder trying to come close. | [23:02] |
asciilifeform | ^ | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | which, by proxy, is in point of fact a measure of the social influence / discoursive relevance of the insane trolls in question, and so yes it is a legitimate measure for them to target. | [23:03] |
asciilifeform | just like it's not priapism till the fun is over and gangrene starts | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | but this from a machiavellian "how do we become more powerful" troll logic perspective, and spcifically not from a "helping raped women" or "helpiong women" perspective. | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo actually in functional family arrangements manic episodes are usually the modern parlance equivalent of what used to be "senile aggitation", ie, granpa keeps grabbing jane's ass. | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | -> thorazine. | [23:04] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: i think BingoBoingo was referring to the american usage - artist (or compulsive bathroom cleaner, see the old 'meth' thread) who stays awake for two weeks straight on 'manic episode' etc | [23:05] |
BingoBoingo | ^ That definition | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | oh | [23:06] |
asciilifeform | except he is didn't need to take the dope | [23:06] |
BingoBoingo | American clinical definition | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | that's not what mania is, clinically, is it ?! | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | jesus that place is nuts. | [23:06] |
asciilifeform | iirc dsm4,5 - yes | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone told engel that they can have manic episodes lasting over 24 hours now he'd have caned them. | [23:07] |
BingoBoingo | dsm 3,4,5 | [23:07] |
BingoBoingo | probably earlier | [23:07] |
mircea_popescu | (the psych, not the anarchist) | [23:08] |
BingoBoingo | What can I say, the brokeness of English systemically effect domains people purport to be actual | [23:09] |
BingoBoingo | 208378, took much of the off because I wasn't there to restart it while sleeping. | [23:10] |
asciilifeform | what is BingoBoingo running, again ? | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | i think if i close my eyes and push on them really really hard i can almost sorta see the logic of this transformation. | [23:10] |
* | asciilifeform was off in meatspace with people, missed quite a bit | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | it's brainwater. | [23:11] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: 0.7.2 -qt on OpenBSD with some 0.5.3.1 patches applied as they can be (i.e. scrolling reading and fingers rather than patch utility) | [23:11] |
asciilifeform | neato | [23:12] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Executable was finally birthed this morning | [23:12] |
asciilifeform | but why 0.7.2 ? | [23:12] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: To see if it can be done. And what is the latest that still takes more of the sane patches. (entire leveldb series is out because making that build would be too much hell) | [23:13] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: that probably is the latest, yes. | [23:13] |
BingoBoingo | -qt just so there's more flags and libs to play with to plumb te differences between the platforms | [23:13] |
asciilifeform | unrelated, | [23:13] |
asciilifeform | https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13233 << picture the sex applications of this suddenly inexpensive trabambourghini | [23:14] |
assbot | FLiR Dev Kit - KIT-13233 - SparkFun Electronics ... ( http://bit.ly/1yzjSI2 ) | [23:14] |
asciilifeform | ^ microbolometer. http://www.pureengineering.com/projects/lepton << original vendor | [23:15] |
assbot | Lepton - PureEngineering ... ( http://bit.ly/1yzk8GV ) | [23:15] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Build did not require the OSsuX ifdefs, but had to kill one linux ifdef and switch a boost lib called for another. | [23:15] |
BingoBoingo | Beast utilizes both CPU cores | [23:16] |
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BingoBoingo | So far all crashes have come from malloc enforcing limits on its memory usage (512 MB by default) now giving it a go with moar ram. | [23:21] |
asciilifeform | ^ wai wat, BingoBoingo has a custom malloc() replacement ? | [23:21] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: No OpenBSD has this stuff built in. Changing process Ram limits happens in login.conf | [23:22] |
BingoBoingo | I just changed a line | [23:22] |
asciilifeform | ah ordinary quota. | [23:22] |
BingoBoingo | I dunno why I've been keeping the BSD stuff to toy and appliance uses for so long. | [23:23] |
* | asciilifeform had a freebsd desktop for many years | [23:23] |
BingoBoingo | Next to social engineering inertia has to be the second biggest threat out there. | [23:23] |
BingoBoingo | I'm loving everything off by default and useful manpages. | [23:24] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: everything off by default << not quite true. try building 'xorg' followed by 'emacs' and see end up with dbus, other horrors | [23:25] |
asciilifeform | ^ assuming this was a recent openbsd | [23:25] |
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BingoBoingo | 5.6 | [23:26] |
asciilifeform | ^ was the one where i observed this | [23:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @#64; 0.00042639 = 4.6477 BTC [+] | [23:26] |
BingoBoingo | I'm leting DBUS live for now, doesn't seem to do much other than die a lot | [23:27] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: it lets in various 'fun' like letting everything running on machine send arbitrary commands to virtually any gtk app (e.g., 'xchat') | [23:29] |
BingoBoingo | From what I understand commercial shop Mtier which does a lot of their ports does "OpenBSD with Gnome and support contracts" as golden toilet product. | [23:29] |
BingoBoingo | Ah | [23:29] |
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BingoBoingo | !up rucoi | [23:30] |
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BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I am liking though that the xserver is not running as root | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform the sex applications of this suddenly inexpensive >> uh what, predict ovulation ? | [23:39] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: target selector ? | [23:39] |
mircea_popescu | hm ? | [23:39] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2014#634660 << related | [23:39] |
assbot | Logged on 22-04-2014 12:51:23; asciilifeform: phun phact: as a student, i once seriously planned to build a pocket gas chromatographer, to pick up gurlz. how!? to do this - exercise for alert reader. | [23:39] |
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mircea_popescu | ... | [23:40] |
* | asciilifeform is out of his depth, does not know if wunderwaffen based on arousal monitoring via far ir thermovisor is a plausible thing | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | well... in the sense bitcoind debugging via cpu ekg is a viable strategy. | [23:41] |
asciilifeform | presumably would be used for selection narrowing in target-rich environment | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | if you think you can beat the primate brain with your electonic contraptions i have a rule based expert system to sell you. | [23:42] |
mircea_popescu | you'll probably do pretty ok picking up the ecstasy-peaking chicks in a rave, i'll grant you that. | [23:43] |
mircea_popescu | whether they hear anything you're saying or not tho is up for debate. | [23:43] |
asciilifeform | this'd be more of a prosthetic version of some folks' ability to 'read body signs' of arousal/lack thereof | [23:43] |
asciilifeform | at short (sword) range | [23:43] |
mircea_popescu | temperature is a very poor variable tho. you'll just end up with a lot of flu. | [23:44] |
asciilifeform | not of whole body! | [23:44] |
asciilifeform | nobody needs that | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | candida infections. | [23:44] |
asciilifeform | (except ebola scanner) | [23:44] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: actually - precedent | [23:44] |
asciilifeform | for a short time in 1980s, liquid crystal thermo-indicator shirts were fashionable in usa | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | even pants | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | but were phased out, guess why | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | (and it had nothing to do with infections) | [23:45] |
mircea_popescu | they didn't work ? | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | nope, precisely the fact that -did- work.. | [23:45] |
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mircea_popescu | i dunno, leuco jewelry was more or less popular in ro, ever since the 80s | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | it remains in use by basically the same demo : slightly insecure 16 yo chicks that'll go into psychology. | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | maybe you're right and the deep reason is that it gives away more than peoplewant to. | [23:47] |
asciilifeform | http://www.blogadilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hypercolor-products.jpg | [23:48] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/173Xwbq ) | [23:48] |
mircea_popescu | lol. the sign of a healthy nubile female. | [23:48] |
asciilifeform | ^ took surprisingly long to dredge up | [23:48] |
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mircea_popescu | her cunt's always warm | [23:48] |
asciilifeform | always warm << one would presumably be looking for the deltas. | [23:48] |
asciilifeform | rather than absolute value | [23:48] |
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asciilifeform | now, mircea_popescu does not need this instrument, eagle does not need a glider | [23:49] |
asciilifeform | but some folks might find a use. | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | well, so who does ? the snail ? | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | snail with glider just set itserlf up for trauimatic failure. | [23:50] |
asciilifeform | 'if man was meant to fly... given wings' - ? | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | not exactly, more like, "if god had meant me to gamble 10k dollars in this casino, he'd have given me 10k dollars" | [23:50] |
asciilifeform | lol | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | let's indulge this fiction for the sake of potential literature. so you pick a target this way, and somehow it works out and now it's morning and she's in bed. | [23:51] |
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mircea_popescu | do you skip to where the machine got abandoned and read her again ? | [23:51] |
BingoBoingo | [23:52] | |
mircea_popescu | if you end up in a divorce ten years later, do you take the machine to court ? | [23:52] |
asciilifeform | actually i suspect that the fun would stop very soon after strapping on (presumably it would have to be worn at waist level! disguised as a fly button?!) | [23:52] |
mircea_popescu | see, this is setting yourself up for failure. | [23:52] |
asciilifeform | walk into $targetrichenvironment and discover soon - no targets | [23:52] |
mircea_popescu | if i had this machinery, you know how i'd use it ? | [23:52] |
mircea_popescu | ID SHOW IT TO THE WOMAN | [23:52] |
asciilifeform | not for $user at least | [23:52] |
mircea_popescu | why the fuck disguise it. the mentality that cunt's the enemy is principally what keeps geeks in an onansitic state. | [23:53] |
asciilifeform | SHOW IT TO THE WOMAN << lol, mircea_popescu must have spoken with asciilifeform's $pet re: how they met | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | you go like, "Hey, guess why I'm talking to you ?" | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | lol ? | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | [23:54] | |
mircea_popescu | now let's hear it. | [23:54] |
* | asciilifeform did not actually carry out this experiment! but was setting up for a variation on the theme, and this got out in his social circle | [23:54] |
* | asciilifeform suffers from a peculiarly obscene perversion: has a hard time taking an interest in gurlz detectably stupider than him | [23:56] |
* | asciilifeform thus had many strange plans, as a young man, for how to narrow the set | [23:56] |
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mircea_popescu | this is insanity. you want a girl that can be smart, not a girl that can't be stupid, for some arbitrary levels of either. just like you seek a horse that can run quickly, not a horse that is never still. | [23:57] |
asciilifeform | this is not an interesting story per se except in the form of advice to young folks like BingoBoingo - don't do it! | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | bb is young ?! | [23:57] |
asciilifeform | iirc | [23:57] |
BingoBoingo | 27 or 28 years young | [23:57] |
BingoBoingo | Fuck 28 | [23:58] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: how to tell if horse can-run-quickly without seeing it run ? | [23:58] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: yes, you can eliminate horse with missing leg | [23:59] |
asciilifeform | or one that's been shot | [23:59] |
BingoBoingo | https://imgur.com/cGqdtO3 << desktop atm | [23:59] |
assbot | Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1B99rSq ) | [23:59] |
asciilifeform | but doesn't tell whether can run. only that isn't out of the race yet. | [23:59] |
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asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: ugh what is that | [23:59] |
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