Forum logs for 13 Feb 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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thestringpuller mod6: if I upgrade openssl will I be able get past the wedge? [13:46]
thestringpuller kinda annoyed @#64; the power rangers rite meow [13:46]
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mod6 thestringpuller: ben & I were able to pass it once we upgraded to v1.0.1g [13:47]
mod6 thestringpuller: dont forget to give us a paste of the info though! plzkthx [13:48]
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mircea_popescu mike_c: oddly hypnotic: http://i.imgur.com/JHBwH3f.jpg << o great [13:51]
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mircea_popescu mike_c: jurov: you're three right of mircea. thestringpuller is crowding you with his long name. << write names inclined 30 degrees ? [13:51]
mircea_popescu jurov: lol why us? << chick's been reading trilema, http://trilema.com/2013/paid-content/#comment-112142 i guess this is her trying to be funnay. [13:56]
assbot Paid content pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1A4jIMG ) [13:56]
mircea_popescu moral being, don't try to be funnay with people you don't know, it never works. [13:56]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell brendafdez: ^facebook^bitcoin << the posix format for this is /facebook/bitcoin/ in reference to the sed command. [13:57]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:57]
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mircea_popescu decimation: I remember using the boost/bdb that was available on the ports << if you could document what you did exactly it'd prolly save people time. [14:00]
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mike_c write names inclined 30 degrees << it's a circle, so that only helps depending on where you get placed on the circle. i'm still poking at it though. [14:01]
chetty http://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/tweeting-for-treatment-in-venezuela/38656.article [14:03]
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thestringpuller ;;seen mike_c [14:09]
gribble mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 minutes and 9 seconds ago: write names inclined 30 degrees << it's a circle, so that only helps depending on where you get placed on the circle. i'm still poking at it though. [14:09]
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thestringpuller mike_c: you around? [14:09]
thestringpuller oh 1157 EST, i'm blind ~_~ [14:10]
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mike_c what's up [14:10]
thestringpuller I've been using force layout via d3 to graph the lord's nodes [14:10]
thestringpuller the centric dependency graph may get crazy [14:11]
mike_c yeah, you need a serious package to handle a lot of nodes/edges. igraph is the only i've found that does a good job so far. [14:12]
thestringpuller I'm able to get 500 nodes with interactivity. [14:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @#64; 0.00040548 = 9.4071 BTC [+] [14:13]
thestringpuller i was thinking of rendering as force layout without interactivity and then dumping the resulting SVG [14:14]
thestringpuller then at least all nodes would be spaced [14:14]
mike_c yeah, but you don't get a sense of tiers unless you use a tree layout [14:14]
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mike_c the one i posted is.. reingold/tilford with the radial layout instead of top-down [14:16]
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thestringpuller mike_c you can with nodes: cookiechief.com/wotviz [14:17]
mike_c yeah, for l1 :) [14:18]
thestringpuller each node spawns from a central point kinda like orbits [14:18]
thestringpuller yea l2 will spawn from the orbits around l1 [14:18]
thestringpuller it's just an adjustment in force [14:18]
mike_c when you add l2 it wants to do things like put nanotube way off by himself because he has a bajillion out nodes [14:18]
thestringpuller ah d3 respond that way, it uses a different force algrotihm [14:19]
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mircea_popescu mike_c not necessarily bad is it ? [14:21]
mike_c depends what you mean. you lose all sense of l1, l2 [14:21]
thestringpuller mike_c: I can apply the data to tilford style tree: http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/4063550 [14:21]
mircea_popescu ah that. ok ok nm, im not going to speak on things i don't have before eyes. [14:21]
thestringpuller kinda like "tree of life" [14:21]
mike_c thestringpuller: remember though, it's not just a tree, it's a forest [14:22]
mike_c lot's of ratings between l1 members for example [14:22]
thestringpuller http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/1153292 << yea hence why that particular part is easier with a node graph [14:25]
thestringpuller i'm terrible with d3 tho, it's just easy to represent data interactively with it. [14:25]
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thestringpuller I'll ;;later you what I come up with for L2 arrangement. These are interesting points to consider. [14:28]
mike_c cool [14:29]
thestringpuller lol playing with graphs. :P And you say you and academia don't get along. [14:30]
mike_c hm. maybe it was just the wrong academia. shit gets published in here, peer reviewed, etc. i guess that's a lot like academia. [14:32]
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thestringpuller :D [14:38]
ben_vulpes peer review, testing in production, what's the difference anyways [14:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @#64; 0.00040227 = 5.0686 BTC [-] [14:48]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: you are the only advocate of cowboy coding I know of [14:48]
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ben_vulpes thestringpuller: when have i ever done such?! [14:59]
thestringpuller "Something something client asked me to change something on live server something something something in the logs." :) [15:00]
ben_vulpes come back with actual citations, troll [15:00]
thestringpuller !s from:ben_vulpes production [15:00]
assbot 15 results for 'from:ben_vulpes production' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aben_vulpes+production [15:00]
ben_vulpes glhf [15:01]
thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#977678 << :D [15:01]
ben_vulpes ... [15:02]
ben_vulpes i thought the automation was implicit. [15:02]
kakobrekla what is this monologue, is noise hole polluting ? [15:02]
ben_vulpes i can't tell if it's me or thestringpuller on your ignore list kakobrekla [15:02]
thestringpuller everyone is on kakobrekla's ignore list [15:03]
kakobrekla i can see you [15:03]
ben_vulpes i guess that answers that [15:03]
kakobrekla !rated thestringpuller [15:03]
assbot You rated user thestringpuller on 17-Oct-2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: noise hole.. [15:03]
kakobrekla yeah see [15:04]
ben_vulpes ok ok i'll do my own research next time [15:04]
thestringpuller jus' like high school :D [15:06]
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mircea_popescu !up rucoi [16:23]
-assbot- You voiced rucoi for 30 minutes. [16:23]
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mircea_popescu Subject: Unusual activity in your American Express account From: "American Express" [16:26]
mircea_popescu these would have to be quite unusual, i never owned an amex card. [16:26]
mircea_popescu To secure your account , please click http://mail.amex.com/http://tarik4.awardspace.com/americanexpress/amex.html [16:26]
mircea_popescu imagine this. amex is retarded enough to actually allow this. [16:26]
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mircea_popescu Received: from 64-178-159-35.eastlink.ca ([64.178.159.35]:63005 helo=amex.com) [16:27]
mircea_popescu *: asciilifeform presently thinks that bitcoind should only ever be build statically << this is correct. consensus systems may NOT pull dynamic links. ever. [16:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30210 @#64; 0.00040302 = 12.1752 BTC [-] {2} [16:30]
mircea_popescu punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << you mean in the blockchain ? the thing's actually coherent. [16:30]
mircea_popescu " Look at how many responses you have received! And only because you are so blindingly stubborn and /wrong/. Be right about something, and nobody says a word, write something insightful that required much thought on your end, and you are guaranteed silence (but occasionally some uplifting mail)." [16:34]
mircea_popescu awww poor naggum. [16:34]
mircea_popescu "But say something utterly boneheaded that pisses people off simply because it is so stupid that people who make such rabid mistakes must be corrected, and you get to control the whole goddamn agenda in the newsgroup for a while." [16:35]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZD4ezDbbu4 [16:35]
assbot Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vIN1pB ) [16:35]
mircea_popescu punkman: I wonder what the liberally sprinkled "CRITICAL_BLOCK" does << it acquires a blocking lock [16:37]
mircea_popescu can't update OR READ the locked matter until released [16:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28841 @#64; 0.00040853 = 11.7824 BTC [+] [16:51]
mircea_popescu assbot: France calls for strong regulation of Bitcoin in EU counter-terrorist financing laws following Charlie Hebdo incident and an end to anonymous financial transactions << yes very logical. [16:51]
mircea_popescu france keeps at this there will be a permanent bounty on dead french statesmen, in Bitcoin. and eventually, a dead France. [16:52]
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mircea_popescu !up JimJamReid [16:55]
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JimJamReid Hi All, I am currently conducting interviews for my university research paper on using Bitcoin as an alternative to traditional currencies, would anyone be interested in participating? [16:56]
mircea_popescu ask, don't ask to ask. [16:57]
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mod6 A static build on debian 6 + v0.5.3 + patches { 1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 7 } + openssl v1.0.1g failed: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=P0Yt9c2U [17:32]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/19fGpoo ) [17:32]
mod6 This might be a show-stopper, will for sure need to fix before release. [17:33]
mircea_popescu o.O [17:33]
mod6 Might need some help on these ones for sure. [17:35]
trinque just looks like you need something in your library path [17:36]
mircea_popescu "How you can hire me: You can't. I don't work for money. Money is a technology that destroys trust. Its entire purpose is to short-circuit human relationships in order to insert itself as a middleman. It makes everybody spend more money, at more emotional cost, for things that make us angry at each other. Don't offer to pay me. Seriously. If you offer me money, I will decline on principle." [17:36]
mircea_popescu check out guy with a half notion of the problem, and a thoroughly broken nonsolution [17:36]
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trinque mod6: lots of chatter about "can't find -lgcc_s" on teh googles [17:38]
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mod6 thanks trinque [17:40]
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thestringpuller mike_c: http://cookiechief.com/wotviz/ << This is what sheer number of L2 users creates. Trying to modify users force but with default settings as you said it loses sight of L2, but that's cause sheer number of users in L2. [17:47]
thestringpuller loses sight of differentiation from L1 -> L2 [17:47]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: http://cookiechief.com/wotviz/index_mp.html << version just for you :P [17:58]
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thestringpuller !gettrust assbot topace [18:00]
assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user topace: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/topace | http://w.b-a.link/user/topace [18:00]
thestringpuller !gettrust assbot jgarzik [18:00]
assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user jgarzik: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/jgarzik | http://w.b-a.link/user/jgarzik [18:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @#64; 0.00042795 = 4.3223 BTC [+] [18:03]
thestringpuller yea assbot/wind 3 [18:05]
thestringpuller >:( [18:05]
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asciilifeform 'How you can hire me: You can't. I don't work for money....' << wai wat ??! [18:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: amex is retarded enough to actually allow this << allow what? [18:41]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform redirect to outside website. [18:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it doesn't... [18:42]
mircea_popescu uh... [18:42]
mircea_popescu how is this scam supposed to work then ?! [18:42]
mircea_popescu (i confess didn't bother to click) [18:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: buggy spamatron [18:42]
mircea_popescu roflmao [18:42]
mircea_popescu mabe they had the hole and fixed it ? [18:43]
mircea_popescu re the "you can't" derp : he spends about half the page trying to beg for donations. because hey, money is only dirty if you actually EARN it. otherwise's fine. http://maymay.net/#how-you-can-support-me [18:43]
assbot Meitar "maymay" Moscovitz: The Information Age equivalent of Johnny Appleseed ... ( http://bit.ly/1vJ5yC9 ) [18:43]
mircea_popescu in any case, i guess he never heard of whats-her-face, the supposed cali "poet" that did essentially the same but in the 70s, and died recently in abject poverty. [18:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not impossible. amex spends a pretty penny on (what passes for) spam and crapware control. [18:44]
mircea_popescu was discussed here, forgot her name. untalented as all shit, too; [18:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: where do you even find these... i could have lived and died without ever knowing about this fella [18:45]
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danielpbarron i know a guy who lives just like that; out of his car, refusing to work for money but not against taking handouts [18:49]
asciilifeform there are beggar-kings who earn more than any, e.g., programmer [18:50]
mike_c thestringpuller: quite a hairball :) [18:50]
mike_c asciilifeform: did you see the other day that stemming got turned off? [18:50]
mike_c you were in the field. [18:50]
asciilifeform aha, neato [18:52]
mike_c it does seem to work now [18:52]
asciilifeform speaking of which, someone asked which robotic vacuum cleaner it was that had decent software. it was the one made by 'neato robotics co.' [18:52]
danielpbarron wtf the dude has bigger tits than the hentai chick at the top of his page.. or is that also supposed to be a dude?? [18:54]
asciilifeform cthonian horror [18:54]
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thestringpuller mike_c: I don't know how one would do Reingold-Tilford that has multiple dependencies [19:04]
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asciilifeform re: the question of ripping out 'boost': not happening short of a total rewrite. it's used for virtually all iteration constructs, heterogeneous data structures, and 100 other things in the turd. [19:08]
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asciilifeform srsly, whoever asked that, read the damn thing. there's conceptually by far more 'boost' than straight cpp in there. [19:09]
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thestringpuller asciilifeform: i was wondering what was up with all the for loops trying to be python-like [19:11]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform i reach far! [19:24]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron stop oppressing dragons with your self-unaware patriarchical gender stereotypes. [19:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's conceptually by far more 'boost' than straight cpp in there. << i for one am thankful it's not mostly javascript. [19:38]
mircea_popescu if you think about it, riding on qt "for the gui" is not so different from riding on the browser. [19:38]
mircea_popescu we should count outselves lucky satoshi didn't implement bitcoin prototype as a fucking greasemonkey script. [19:38]
danielpbarron i don't think i've ever actually used the qt client [19:39]
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mircea_popescu mod6: it'd be awesome because then derps would give up and go and play with hula-hoops << technically speaking this is what's happening already. [19:41]
mircea_popescu Adlai: good dad, just keep walking down this road! << a winner is you, srsly. [19:42]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron: is there any evidence to suggest that << nope. [19:42]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron: it's a possibility though, right? << yeah, but from all i've seen it's a very remote one. [19:42]
Adlai ? [19:44]
mircea_popescu it's won, what. your dad will eventually get it. [19:46]
Adlai well i imagine that when it happens, nobody will be able to not get it, because it'll happen rather happeningly [19:47]
Adlai so "eventually" isn't good enough [19:48]
mircea_popescu not your place to make ~that~ call. [19:48]
mircea_popescu the part that actually is your place, is done. welcome to parenting! [19:49]
mircea_popescu (it sucks) [19:49]
Adlai it's funny/sad how parenting reverses over time [19:49]
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mircea_popescu i guess so huh. [19:50]
asciilifeform for what 'qt' does, there is no real alternative (other than 'wx', which is arguably even more of a cthonian horror in some ways) [19:51]
mircea_popescu browser is an alternative. [19:51]
asciilifeform now, did the thing -need- a cross-platfom gui? don't ask me, i've never used it... [19:51]
mircea_popescu c code is cross-plantrofm. [19:51]
asciilifeform gui, remember [19:52]
mircea_popescu this is not the correct approach. make bitcoin, then let everyone make their own guis. [19:52]
mircea_popescu people DID make their own miners. [19:53]
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asciilifeform lol, i still don't know why it needed the gui at all [20:00]
mircea_popescu kinda same reason women need tits. [20:01]
mircea_popescu not like they wouldn't work without em. [20:01]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell rucoi fix your bouncer [20:02]
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asciilifeform if i could fork myself, i'd be severely tempted to: attempt an ada bitcoind. [20:03]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: re: could you imaginge if Gavin was magically replaced by ryanxcharles? [20:04]
mircea_popescu i'd have thoughjt a cl bitcoind [20:04]
mircea_popescu or for that matter a c bitcoind (as opposed to cpp) [20:05]
thestringpuller the original qt uses MFC stuff [20:06]
thestringpuller Satoshi sure did like windows. [20:06]
mircea_popescu i suspect ti's a case very close to the ida situation asciilifeform was deploring last week [20:07]
mircea_popescu we're so fucking lucky satoshi wasn't any good with code. [20:07]
asciilifeform i suspect that mircea_popescu would actually like ada. not writing it, mind you, but seeing it written [20:08]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [20:08]
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mircea_popescu i'm not entirely unfamiliar. [20:08]
mircea_popescu !s ada from:mircea [20:08]
assbot 1 results for 'ada from:mircea' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ada+from%3Amircea [20:08]
asciilifeform naggum's -other- lang. the only one other than cl that had not only a standard but a -rationale document- for every page [20:08]
mircea_popescu hm. [20:08]
mircea_popescu i thought i musta mentioned it [20:08]
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asciilifeform still used for genuinely safety-critical systems worldwide (virtually all jet engine controllers, etc.) - language from hell, required you to specify ranges for integers, and the like [20:09]
mircea_popescu uh. what typed language doesn't ?! [20:09]
asciilifeform i confess that i rather like it... [20:09]
mircea_popescu going int blabla; says : blabla between 0 and 65535 or w/e [20:09]
asciilifeform nononono - explicitly. [20:10]
mircea_popescu listen, everything in a program is explicit. whethr the user is aware or not of this... [20:11]
mircea_popescu no means yes. yes means anal. it's how computiong works. [20:11]
asciilifeform as in 'this one is odd and between 3 and 15 and if it ever isn't, pump in the halon [20:11]
mircea_popescu not that i disagree with the principle of making people verbalize the stuff they're abotu to do. [20:11]
asciilifeform http://cs.fit.edu/~ryan/ada/programs << examples [20:12]
assbot Ada Programs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cpq1LF ) [20:12]
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asciilifeform ugly, pascal-like, but extraordinarily well-specified and strict to the point of bdsm [20:13]
mircea_popescu lol so yest someone hit trilema in what originally looked like a ddos, except... single ip ? ~1mn pageloads ? [20:13]
mircea_popescu turns out it's http://anti-hacker-alliance.com/index.php?details=74.121.38.141 [20:13]
assbot The Anti Hacker Alliance fights against 74.121.38.141 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cpqb5O ) [20:13]
mircea_popescu now wtf is "shutterfly" [20:14]
mircea_popescu and wtf is "the anti hacker alliance" [20:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: apparently, a defunct (?) print house? - hacked box [20:15]
mircea_popescu derps. world is full of derps. [20:15]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: while the latter appears to be an erzats 'spamhaus' ? [20:15]
mircea_popescu oh, xrumer harvester. [20:16]
mircea_popescu lmao idiots. [20:16]
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mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaGvcAOcA_s << cuties. [20:23]
assbot Ансамбль "Белое злато" - Казаченька молода - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1D60h9X ) [20:23]
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mircea_popescu they'd be a lot better if drunk imo. [20:24]
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TheNewDeal Ewww [20:29]
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mircea_popescu http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ro/2011/10/adventures-in-depression.html << holy shit, this actually happens ? [20:41]
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thestringpuller can't wait to read on qntra one day: "Gavin Admits to Being USG Agent, Leaves Bitcoin Forever" [20:48]
mircea_popescu qntra is about news, you're thinking more in terms of daytime tv drama. [20:50]
mircea_popescu at this point i'm not even sure gavin jumping off the coq d'argent would qualify as bitcoin news. [20:50]
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mircea_popescu !up Stunna [20:55]
-assbot- You voiced Stunna for 30 minutes. [20:55]
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mircea_popescu https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << look at that, for once qntra traffic graph is not thrown by some social media spike so you8 can actually see some pattern [21:00]
assbot Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast [21:00]
cazalla feb is on track to be another record month [21:04]
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mircea_popescu o srsly ? [21:08]
mircea_popescu coolness [21:08]
* mircea_popescu makes a note that should anyone wish to "see studies" supporting the proposition of http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ (ie, that *EVERYTHING* published in English is junk, and to be discarded out of hand), I intend to use http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/10/jama_deludes.html [21:09]
assbot How to deal with pseudoscience ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpB87s ) [21:09]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: What Political Propaganda Looks Like ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpB9s2 ) [21:09]
mircea_popescu absolutely perfect example of the pseudoscientific nature of American "science". [21:09]
asciilifeform http://www.ada95.ch/index.php?page=morris << unrelated lulz [21:10]
assbot Ada95.ch - morris ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpBeMc ) [21:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform minor nitpick : all these people that never ever head foreman'd a construction yard shjould stfu about "tools". the tools used to build a skyscraper are, by and large, cheaper, more worn versions of the expensive DIY crap. [21:11]
mircea_popescu exactly like how the rifles used to fight actual wars are nothing like the crazy-shit-stick-on-all-sides "amateur" rifles. [21:12]
mircea_popescu and unrelatedly, http://pretendyoure.xyz [21:13]
mircea_popescu shit it's dead. [21:13]
mircea_popescu "4. if you have the intellectual and physical capacity to single-handedly deal with your program, it's a toy " <<< sheeit alf, what nao ? [21:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 145 @#64; 0.01199999 = 1.74 BTC [+] [21:17]
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BingoBoingo punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << For the time being... empirically. There a set with six year's worth a data to test against by syncing. [21:24]
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mike_c those qntra spikes are important though. 1% of the flash traffic sticks around and becomes regular reader [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @#64; 0.00042605 = 7.6476 BTC [-] [21:32]
mircea_popescu but the spikes are never 100x the averae traffic. usually 10-15x [21:33]
mircea_popescu so using your numbers... they're actually unimportant. [21:33]
mircea_popescu in other news, firefox spontaneously combusts unattended on a 4 day old system. and they call this software. [21:35]
BingoBoingo !up whaack [21:36]
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mike_c RENT just passed one year [21:36]
BingoBoingo whaack> can i have an up! por favor << He said please [21:36]
whaack i did indeed [21:37]
mike_c ben_vulpes: RENT is on big bull run [21:37]
mircea_popescu !t h rent [21:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00935000 / 0.01054944 / 0.01200000 (2246 shares, 23.69404349 BTC), 7D: 0.00851001 / 0.01030218 / 0.01200000 (2730 shares, 28.12494993 BTC), 30D: 0.00505000 / 0.00827112 / 0.01200000 (7238 shares, 59.86634509 BTC) [21:40]
mircea_popescu what was it back around 700 usd/ btc ? like 3 ish ? [21:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2985 @#64; 0.00075004 = 2.2389 BTC [-] {7} [21:41]
mike_c floated around 0045 for a long time [21:41]
whaack how / where can I find more bitcoin stock markets like MPex? [21:41]
mike_c nowhere [21:41]
whaack no smaller ones? [21:41]
BingoBoingo not if you are comparing like things [21:43]
mike_c try this one: https://btct.co/ [21:44]
assbot BTC-TC: BTC Trading Corp ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpWm6H ) [21:44]
kakobrekla > They were called Virtual Currencies, now many prefer to call them Digital Currency or Crypto Currency. [21:45]
kakobrekla lol [21:45]
kakobrekla helluva argument [21:46]
mike_c "The site broke new ground for security in the space, integrating Yubikey and Google Authenticator" [21:47]
whaack lmfao [21:47]
mike_c !gettrust assbot burnside [21:48]
assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user burnside: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/burnside | http://w.b-a.link/user/burnside [21:48]
kakobrekla whaack https://bitfunder.com < also still up [21:49]
assbot BitFunder.Com - Join the crowd, every BIT helps! ... ( http://bit.ly/1yz3Fm9 ) [21:49]
mircea_popescu and of course once that crashes it brings down the networking stack, which on ubuntu can NOT actually be restarted, mostly because it fucks up dbus and everything else. [21:50]
mircea_popescu in other words : i have nfi why we care so much about systemd, in fact linux has been fucked over for years now, by completely unrelated crapolade like ubunbtu. [21:50]
whaack how many people in here have read the bitcoin core code? would anyone here consider to know it well? [21:51]
mircea_popescu !isup glbse.com [21:51]
BingoBoingo whaack: I had to chop mine up these past few days. It's C++ you search the text and nuke shit that you dun like. [21:52]
mircea_popescu whaack do yourselv a favour and read the logs for an actual result, rather than !imperative all over the place and a) not get anything except for b) marking yourself for termination. [21:54]
BingoBoingo in other words : i have nfi why we care so much about systemd, in fact linux has been fucked over for years now, by completely unrelated crapolade like ubunbtu. << It's a twin story. Pain and Dis-Able [21:54]
mircea_popescu there still is no substitute for homework. "socializing" not only fails to substitute, but actually has serious counterindications. [21:55]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo heh i guess itis. [21:55]
whaack fair enough [21:56]
BingoBoingo Dis-Able was first born. Disable spend many years in the shadows ruining sound and making daemon no one wanted. Pain came into the world with a bang out of Africa, promised ease at the cost of nothing working as expectabru. Two years ago they each decided to play the other's part and now systemd is loud while ubuntu silent becomes the quiet daemon that breaks apps in the background. [21:59]
mircea_popescu you should go into impressionism, this is chilling. [21:59]
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mircea_popescu http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/10/how_to_get_rich_in_psychiatry.html << there's little quite as endearing as the misty excitement of a noob stockpicker. [22:01]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: How To Get Rich In Psychiatry (update on stocks) ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpY4oC ) [22:01]
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BingoBoingo n00b stockpicker me from freshman year of college really should have held those Sun shares through to the buyout instead of playing the hi-lo game [22:15]
mircea_popescu nene [22:15]
BingoBoingo I bought at $3.80-ish Oracle bought at $16 ish [22:16]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ...sheeit alf, what nao << not my fault if the poor sod contracted 'brainwater' and can't hold systems in his head [22:16]
mircea_popescu lol [22:17]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: brings down the networking stack... fucks up dbus and everything else... nfi why we care so much about systemd, in fact linux has been fucked over for years now << you will find that the ubuntu 'stack' that can 'go down' consists almost wholly of poetteringisms [22:18]
asciilifeform 'dbus' is unofficially but quite thoroughly a poetteringism, for instance [22:18]
asciilifeform other observation is that 'ubuntu' (with the above atrocities and many others) is no more 'linux' than wintel 'is what a computer is' [22:19]
mircea_popescu which is why i said. [22:19]
mircea_popescu it's like syphilis patient getting really excited about a phase 3 lesion on his nose. [22:20]
mircea_popescu dude... srsly missed the boat on that whole health thing. [22:20]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what possessed you to set up the experiment described earlier? [22:20]
mircea_popescu not my machine. [22:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7523 @#64; 0.00042605 = 3.2052 BTC [-] [22:20]
mircea_popescu "hey mp, wtf happened to my laptop ?" [22:20]
mircea_popescu what am i going to do now, corner time on knees ? [22:21]
mircea_popescu not about to do that. girl's 19, and more importantly ITS REALLY NOT HER GOD DAMNED FAULT. [22:22]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: gurl enlisted with ubuntu machine? or forcibly deloused of winblows upon induction ? [22:40]
mircea_popescu latter. [22:41]
asciilifeform aha, guessed as much. [22:41]
mircea_popescu not precisely inducted either. it's a process. [22:41]
mircea_popescu 27.153.187.242 - - [13/Feb/2015:17:04:50 -0500] "GET /2013/what-is-art/%22%7C%22--%22%7C%22--%22%7C%22--%22%7C%22--%22%7C%22--%22 HTTP/1.1" 404 28932 "http://trilema.com/2013/what-is-art/"|"--"|"--"|"--"|"--"|"--"" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)" [22:43]
mircea_popescu for my curiosity, what is this supposed to even be ? like a sql injection ? [22:43]
BingoBoingo That would be my guess [22:49]
mircea_popescu and what, "enough" similar magic units to "do the job" ? looks like people try to hack like psychs try to medicate. [22:51]
mircea_popescu "hey, --" didn't do anything on it's own, but what if you add another ?!?! [22:51]
BingoBoingo Could also be they might have been trying to trigger a resource intensive search? [22:54]
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mircea_popescu mebbe i guess. [22:56]
mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/7be0f7b7783c8a86fc50a08c5cf2ca70/tumblr_ne2ak2Mm1u1tatbbfo1_400.gif [22:56]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yzgzRi ) [22:57]
BingoBoingo I'm just watching the blocks sync and thinking to the history I and verifying as it passed. Solidly in the S.Dice era nao [22:57]
mircea_popescu it's fascinating innit! [22:57]
BingoBoingo It's soothing. [22:58]
BingoBoingo After smashing my head these past few days through the painful part of the learing process... The software is now working for me instead of I for it. [23:00]
mircea_popescu "A similar example is the often cited myth that diagnosis of bipolar disorder is frequently missed. A survey found that 69% of patients were actually misdiagnosed, most often as having regular depression. An average of 4 physicians were consulted “prior to receiving the correct diagnosis.” But who is to say what is the correct diagnosis, when the diagnosis is based on vague and overlapping descriptions (and not [23:00]
mircea_popescu on objective pathology?) You can look at this the other way, and say only 1 out of 5 psychiatrists felt it was bipolar disorder, while the other 80% thought it was depression. So it pays to have the last word. Bipolar disorder is “frequently missed” not because it exists and doctors miss it, but because it is defined in a way which allows it, by 80% of doctors, to be legitimately called something else. The onl [23:00]
mircea_popescu y way to say the diagnosis was correct or incorrect, in the absence of objective pathology, is to say that the treatment they received for “bipolar disorder” from the fifth doctor was better (read: safer or more efficacious) than the treatment they received from the first four. This is not evident. " [23:00]
mircea_popescu fucking gold, this. [23:00]
mircea_popescu this, incidentally, is EXACTLY the mechanism through which "80% of rapes are unreported". [23:00]
mircea_popescu out of five women that weren't raped, only one runs into idiots spouting insane troll logic that convinces her she retroactively was. [23:01]
BingoBoingo Re: bipolar - no one complains about feeling manic until the police get involved. Plenty of people spend lots of money of coffee and bolivian marching poweder trying to come close. [23:02]
asciilifeform ^ [23:02]
mircea_popescu which, by proxy, is in point of fact a measure of the social influence / discoursive relevance of the insane trolls in question, and so yes it is a legitimate measure for them to target. [23:03]
asciilifeform just like it's not priapism till the fun is over and gangrene starts [23:03]
mircea_popescu but this from a machiavellian "how do we become more powerful" troll logic perspective, and spcifically not from a "helping raped women" or "helpiong women" perspective. [23:03]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo actually in functional family arrangements manic episodes are usually the modern parlance equivalent of what used to be "senile aggitation", ie, granpa keeps grabbing jane's ass. [23:04]
mircea_popescu -> thorazine. [23:04]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i think BingoBoingo was referring to the american usage - artist (or compulsive bathroom cleaner, see the old 'meth' thread) who stays awake for two weeks straight on 'manic episode' etc [23:05]
BingoBoingo ^ That definition [23:06]
mircea_popescu oh [23:06]
asciilifeform except he is didn't need to take the dope [23:06]
BingoBoingo American clinical definition [23:06]
mircea_popescu that's not what mania is, clinically, is it ?! [23:06]
mircea_popescu jesus that place is nuts. [23:06]
asciilifeform iirc dsm4,5 - yes [23:06]
mircea_popescu if anyone told engel that they can have manic episodes lasting over 24 hours now he'd have caned them. [23:07]
BingoBoingo dsm 3,4,5 [23:07]
BingoBoingo probably earlier [23:07]
mircea_popescu (the psych, not the anarchist) [23:08]
BingoBoingo What can I say, the brokeness of English systemically effect domains people purport to be actual [23:09]
BingoBoingo 208378, took much of the off because I wasn't there to restart it while sleeping. [23:10]
asciilifeform what is BingoBoingo running, again ? [23:10]
mircea_popescu i think if i close my eyes and push on them really really hard i can almost sorta see the logic of this transformation. [23:10]
* asciilifeform was off in meatspace with people, missed quite a bit [23:11]
mircea_popescu it's brainwater. [23:11]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: 0.7.2 -qt on OpenBSD with some 0.5.3.1 patches applied as they can be (i.e. scrolling reading and fingers rather than patch utility) [23:11]
asciilifeform neato [23:12]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Executable was finally birthed this morning [23:12]
asciilifeform but why 0.7.2 ? [23:12]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: To see if it can be done. And what is the latest that still takes more of the sane patches. (entire leveldb series is out because making that build would be too much hell) [23:13]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: that probably is the latest, yes. [23:13]
BingoBoingo -qt just so there's more flags and libs to play with to plumb te differences between the platforms [23:13]
asciilifeform unrelated, [23:13]
asciilifeform https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13233 << picture the sex applications of this suddenly inexpensive trabambourghini [23:14]
assbot FLiR Dev Kit - KIT-13233 - SparkFun Electronics ... ( http://bit.ly/1yzjSI2 ) [23:14]
asciilifeform ^ microbolometer. http://www.pureengineering.com/projects/lepton << original vendor [23:15]
assbot Lepton - PureEngineering ... ( http://bit.ly/1yzk8GV ) [23:15]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Build did not require the OSsuX ifdefs, but had to kill one linux ifdef and switch a boost lib called for another. [23:15]
BingoBoingo Beast utilizes both CPU cores [23:16]
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BingoBoingo So far all crashes have come from malloc enforcing limits on its memory usage (512 MB by default) now giving it a go with moar ram. [23:21]
asciilifeform ^ wai wat, BingoBoingo has a custom malloc() replacement ? [23:21]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: No OpenBSD has this stuff built in. Changing process Ram limits happens in login.conf [23:22]
BingoBoingo I just changed a line [23:22]
asciilifeform ah ordinary quota. [23:22]
BingoBoingo I dunno why I've been keeping the BSD stuff to toy and appliance uses for so long. [23:23]
* asciilifeform had a freebsd desktop for many years [23:23]
BingoBoingo Next to social engineering inertia has to be the second biggest threat out there. [23:23]
BingoBoingo I'm loving everything off by default and useful manpages. [23:24]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: everything off by default << not quite true. try building 'xorg' followed by 'emacs' and see end up with dbus, other horrors [23:25]
asciilifeform ^ assuming this was a recent openbsd [23:25]
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BingoBoingo 5.6 [23:26]
asciilifeform ^ was the one where i observed this [23:26]
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BingoBoingo I'm leting DBUS live for now, doesn't seem to do much other than die a lot [23:27]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: it lets in various 'fun' like letting everything running on machine send arbitrary commands to virtually any gtk app (e.g., 'xchat') [23:29]
BingoBoingo From what I understand commercial shop Mtier which does a lot of their ports does "OpenBSD with Gnome and support contracts" as golden toilet product. [23:29]
BingoBoingo Ah [23:29]
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BingoBoingo !up rucoi [23:30]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I am liking though that the xserver is not running as root [23:30]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the sex applications of this suddenly inexpensive >> uh what, predict ovulation ? [23:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: target selector ? [23:39]
mircea_popescu hm ? [23:39]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2014#634660 << related [23:39]
assbot Logged on 22-04-2014 12:51:23; asciilifeform: phun phact: as a student, i once seriously planned to build a pocket gas chromatographer, to pick up gurlz. how!? to do this - exercise for alert reader. [23:39]
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mircea_popescu ... [23:40]
* asciilifeform is out of his depth, does not know if wunderwaffen based on arousal monitoring via far ir thermovisor is a plausible thing [23:41]
mircea_popescu well... in the sense bitcoind debugging via cpu ekg is a viable strategy. [23:41]
asciilifeform presumably would be used for selection narrowing in target-rich environment [23:41]
mircea_popescu if you think you can beat the primate brain with your electonic contraptions i have a rule based expert system to sell you. [23:42]
mircea_popescu you'll probably do pretty ok picking up the ecstasy-peaking chicks in a rave, i'll grant you that. [23:43]
mircea_popescu whether they hear anything you're saying or not tho is up for debate. [23:43]
asciilifeform this'd be more of a prosthetic version of some folks' ability to 'read body signs' of arousal/lack thereof [23:43]
asciilifeform at short (sword) range [23:43]
mircea_popescu temperature is a very poor variable tho. you'll just end up with a lot of flu. [23:44]
asciilifeform not of whole body! [23:44]
asciilifeform nobody needs that [23:44]
mircea_popescu candida infections. [23:44]
asciilifeform (except ebola scanner) [23:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: actually - precedent [23:44]
asciilifeform for a short time in 1980s, liquid crystal thermo-indicator shirts were fashionable in usa [23:45]
asciilifeform even pants [23:45]
asciilifeform but were phased out, guess why [23:45]
asciilifeform (and it had nothing to do with infections) [23:45]
mircea_popescu they didn't work ? [23:45]
asciilifeform nope, precisely the fact that -did- work.. [23:45]
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mircea_popescu i dunno, leuco jewelry was more or less popular in ro, ever since the 80s [23:46]
mircea_popescu it remains in use by basically the same demo : slightly insecure 16 yo chicks that'll go into psychology. [23:46]
mircea_popescu maybe you're right and the deep reason is that it gives away more than peoplewant to. [23:47]
asciilifeform http://www.blogadilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hypercolor-products.jpg [23:48]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/173Xwbq ) [23:48]
mircea_popescu lol. the sign of a healthy nubile female. [23:48]
asciilifeform ^ took surprisingly long to dredge up [23:48]
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mircea_popescu her cunt's always warm [23:48]
asciilifeform always warm << one would presumably be looking for the deltas. [23:48]
asciilifeform rather than absolute value [23:48]
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asciilifeform now, mircea_popescu does not need this instrument, eagle does not need a glider [23:49]
asciilifeform but some folks might find a use. [23:49]
mircea_popescu well, so who does ? the snail ? [23:49]
mircea_popescu snail with glider just set itserlf up for trauimatic failure. [23:50]
asciilifeform 'if man was meant to fly... given wings' - ? [23:50]
mircea_popescu not exactly, more like, "if god had meant me to gamble 10k dollars in this casino, he'd have given me 10k dollars" [23:50]
asciilifeform lol [23:51]
mircea_popescu let's indulge this fiction for the sake of potential literature. so you pick a target this way, and somehow it works out and now it's morning and she's in bed. [23:51]
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mircea_popescu do you skip to where the machine got abandoned and read her again ? [23:51]
BingoBoingo not exactly, more like, "if god had meant me to gamble 10k dollars in this casino, he'd have given me 10k dollars" << Nah, he'd just make the credit officer in the cage a bit wet on the brain [23:52]
mircea_popescu if you end up in a divorce ten years later, do you take the machine to court ? [23:52]
asciilifeform actually i suspect that the fun would stop very soon after strapping on (presumably it would have to be worn at waist level! disguised as a fly button?!) [23:52]
mircea_popescu see, this is setting yourself up for failure. [23:52]
asciilifeform walk into $targetrichenvironment and discover soon - no targets [23:52]
mircea_popescu if i had this machinery, you know how i'd use it ? [23:52]
mircea_popescu ID SHOW IT TO THE WOMAN [23:52]
asciilifeform not for $user at least [23:52]
mircea_popescu why the fuck disguise it. the mentality that cunt's the enemy is principally what keeps geeks in an onansitic state. [23:53]
asciilifeform SHOW IT TO THE WOMAN << lol, mircea_popescu must have spoken with asciilifeform's $pet re: how they met [23:53]
mircea_popescu you go like, "Hey, guess why I'm talking to you ?" [23:53]
mircea_popescu lol ? [23:53]
mircea_popescu let's indulge this fiction for the sake of potential literature. << I PREDICTED! [23:54]
mircea_popescu now let's hear it. [23:54]
* asciilifeform did not actually carry out this experiment! but was setting up for a variation on the theme, and this got out in his social circle [23:54]
* asciilifeform suffers from a peculiarly obscene perversion: has a hard time taking an interest in gurlz detectably stupider than him [23:56]
* asciilifeform thus had many strange plans, as a young man, for how to narrow the set [23:56]
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mircea_popescu this is insanity. you want a girl that can be smart, not a girl that can't be stupid, for some arbitrary levels of either. just like you seek a horse that can run quickly, not a horse that is never still. [23:57]
asciilifeform this is not an interesting story per se except in the form of advice to young folks like BingoBoingo - don't do it! [23:57]
mircea_popescu bb is young ?! [23:57]
asciilifeform iirc [23:57]
BingoBoingo 27 or 28 years young [23:57]
BingoBoingo Fuck 28 [23:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: how to tell if horse can-run-quickly without seeing it run ? [23:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, you can eliminate horse with missing leg [23:59]
asciilifeform or one that's been shot [23:59]
BingoBoingo https://imgur.com/cGqdtO3 << desktop atm [23:59]
assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1B99rSq ) [23:59]
asciilifeform but doesn't tell whether can run. only that isn't out of the race yet. [23:59]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ugh what is that [23:59]
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