Forum logs for 12 Feb 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* asciilifeform has blood relations there, ditto [00:00]
mircea_popescu PeterL this would be the general sentiment. [00:00]
PeterL mircea_popescu: but this sentiment is not reflected in the US press [00:00]
mircea_popescu how the fuck do you call these people in english anyway ? [00:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform dja know ? [00:00]
asciilifeform who? [00:00]
mircea_popescu karachay ? cherkesia ? [00:01]
asciilifeform circassians [00:01]
mircea_popescu the traditionally highest priced white chicks in arab slave markets [00:01]
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mircea_popescu ah [00:01]
asciilifeform as written in n. barber's 'the sultans' and other classics [00:01]
mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Flag_of_Adygea.svg < yeah that. [00:02]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/19aQpPR ) [00:02]
decimation speaking of predictions: I predict that hawaiians will be considered 'official indians' and be put on the bezzle dole http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/10/china-threatens-arm-hawaii-separatists-who-want-ki/ [00:02]
assbot China threatens to arm Hawaii separatists who want kingdom - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/19aQvqA ) [00:03]
mircea_popescu chinese sea base in hawaii would be pretty epic [00:03]
mircea_popescu you know they want it. you know they could actually get it. [00:03]
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decimation there has been 'debate' for years on whether the 'native hawaiians (korean slaves)' should be considered 'indians' and given bezzlars [00:03]
mircea_popescu that's clearly drawing to an end, yeah. [00:04]
PeterL decimation: next bombing of Pearl Harbor comes from the east? [00:04]
decimation well, if they have the patience to wait 100 years they might get it [00:04]
asciilifeform http://www.dpvintageposters.com/cgi-local/detail.cgi?d=9685 << related [00:04]
assbot DP Vintage Posters - Free Leonard Peltier Original USSR Soviet Union anti-American Protest Poster ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ectw7Y ) [00:04]
mircea_popescu decimation they could get it next year if they cared enough. [00:04]
decimation hilariously, the actual hawaiian islands are 100% dependent on usg military, etc for income [00:05]
mircea_popescu decimation problem is chinese military has way more money. [00:05]
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decimation if they became 'independent' they would just become someone else's bitch [00:05]
mircea_popescu ask anyone working for military tech, they'll tell you 2/3 to 90% of the chinese performance is due to "Stable financing" [00:05]
mircea_popescu decimation if they're going to be a bitch they might as well suck the shorter, better paying cock. [00:06]
asciilifeform another factor is that the 'middle kingdom' has yet to invent the modern military golden toilet. [00:06]
decimation I don't think the us military would give up hawaii without an actual war [00:06]
mircea_popescu o rly ? [00:06]
mircea_popescu lose 6 of the 10 aircraft carriers ? [00:06]
decimation of course, if they are too poor to pay anyone... [00:06]
PeterL it is a strategic navy port [00:07]
mircea_popescu and about 50 to 70% of the rest of the fleet ? [00:07]
mircea_popescu if they do that russia can simply move into poland. or japan. [00:07]
decimation nah, the prc doesn't really have a blue water navy [00:07]
mircea_popescu i wonder, which way they;'d go. [00:07]
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mircea_popescu decimation it has missiles capable of bridging to hawaii just fine. [00:07]
mircea_popescu it's kinda close to them [00:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: would you take jp? and for what ? [00:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i would not take either. [00:08]
decimation I don't think china has the balls to start a missile war with usg [00:08]
asciilifeform pl makes a great nuke waste dump [00:08]
asciilifeform just like latvia [00:08]
mircea_popescu so does japan nowadays :D [00:08]
asciilifeform jp is full [00:08]
mircea_popescu but that's "why" : let the engineers move to st petersburg. [00:08]
mircea_popescu let the social studies experts rot in tokyo [00:09]
asciilifeform is jp long on 'experts' ? [00:09]
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mircea_popescu kind-of. [00:09]
decimation now, the problem that usg has is that in 30 years, they might not be able to pay for missiles or soldiers [00:09]
asciilifeform decimation: they're working on a smooth transition to straight inca mode [00:10]
mircea_popescu decimation if the chinese shock the market (putting obama in the position of putin), they won't have what to pay for limo gasoline with. [00:10]
* decimation emits parse error [00:10]
mircea_popescu the entire non-"government shutdown" is predicated on rolling debt at 0.2% or less. [00:11]
mircea_popescu this can not happen without chinese aquiescence. [00:11]
decimation yes indeed [00:11]
decimation well, china is actually a fairly small owner of usg debt [00:11]
mircea_popescu if the chinese go 8% or fuck you, that's the end of paying. for anything. [00:11]
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mircea_popescu not a matter of "Debt ceiling" anymore. [00:12]
mircea_popescu yes, but it's a fairly major player in the financial markets. [00:12]
decimation http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/foreign-ownership-us-government-debt-passes-6-trillion [00:12]
assbot Foreign Ownership of U.S. Government Debt Passes $6 Trillion | CNS News ... ( http://bit.ly/19aRhUu ) [00:12]
decimation well, the way all the 'smart [00:12]
mircea_popescu does that include the belgium trololol ? [00:12]
decimation liberals think now, they would say 'that's not a problem' [00:12]
asciilifeform so usg will move to straight command economy. [00:12]
mircea_popescu sure, it's not a problem. but there's no paying for anything either. [00:12]
decimation the fed will just print more bezzlars and loan them at whatever rate is our choosing [00:13]
asciilifeform 'inca empire' [00:13]
PeterL at that point they will need to speed up the presses and hyperinflate out of debt [00:13]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it would last for what, 18 months ? [00:13]
asciilifeform the incas carried on considerably longer than that... [00:13]
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asciilifeform will chug on until the conquistadores show up. [00:14]
decimation asciilifeform: what does usg have to compel a trade? [00:14]
mircea_popescu the incas carried out considerably longer on that principally because they weren't trying to keep carriers afloat. [00:14]
mircea_popescu that takes money. [00:14]
asciilifeform takes slaves. [00:14]
asciilifeform usg - has plenty. [00:14]
decimation not to mention keeping old people & minorities in free living [00:14]
mircea_popescu only provided they're allowed to roll debt. [00:14]
asciilifeform slaves to crew the boat, pull the hydrocarbons out of the ground, everything in between. [00:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform your model implies i am going to be able to buy off us destroyers. [00:15]
asciilifeform eventually [00:15]
mircea_popescu within years. [00:15]
asciilifeform aha [00:15]
mircea_popescu well... not much of a plan is it. [00:15]
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PeterL what would you do with a destroyer? [00:16]
* asciilifeform isn't usg vizier, isn't paid to plan [00:16]
* asciilifeform only observes. [00:16]
mircea_popescu PeterL i dunno, shoot porn on it. [00:16]
mircea_popescu take it to venezuela and bombard the capital. [00:16]
asciilifeform it'd make a good slave galley [00:16]
asciilifeform fit oars [00:16]
mircea_popescu bwahahahaha [00:16]
mircea_popescu ok wtf oar fitted aegis class destroyer. [00:17]
asciilifeform that's what i always wanted to see [00:17]
asciilifeform it doesn't have to actually move [00:17]
decimation actually the carriers and the entire dod welfare parade is only about 17% of the total usg spending [00:17]
asciilifeform but it would be grand to see old 'movers and shakers' of usg row until the end of their days. [00:17]
mircea_popescu decimation but it's about 50% of the spending that actually does something, you see. [00:17]
decimation yeah that's about right [00:17]
mircea_popescu the other 50% is spent on imaginary things that meet no pactical verification [00:17]
mircea_popescu like paper pushing [00:17]
asciilifeform if you want to see usg spending, visit the 'potomac' quarter of d.c. area, for example [00:18]
mircea_popescu there's a difference between "keeping boat afloat" and "correctly filing form GX-22" [00:18]
decimation well, most of that is simply stripping people with money and giving it to 'deserving groups' [00:18]
decimation of that 17%, probably only about 10-20% of that is actually 'keeping boat afloat' [00:18]
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asciilifeform at this point, virtually anyone living like 'upper middle class' and above in usa, is usg spending personified [00:19]
decimation asciilifeform: you mean potomac, maryland? [00:19]
asciilifeform (how? see tlp article) [00:19]
asciilifeform decimation: aha [00:19]
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mircea_popescu the thing is, a destroyer "cost" a coupla bil, and will sell for what, 10-20k btc. [00:19]
mircea_popescu much like the russian leftovers. [00:19]
asciilifeform the mega-bezzle isn't simply buying carriers, it's buying countless yachts, mcmansions, etc [00:20]
decimation as I recall mike tyson had a mansion there, had real tigers [00:20]
mircea_popescu wasn't he bankrupt ? [00:20]
asciilifeform paying for hundreds of thousands of imbeciles to attent harvaprinceyaleton [00:20]
decimation http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2001-04-28/news/0104280333_1_tyson-blaze-fire-officials [00:20]
assbot Mike Tyson Potomac Home | Family of boxer Tyson unhurt after fire at Potomac home - Baltimore Sun ... ( http://bit.ly/19aRWp1 ) [00:20]
mircea_popescu hmm, musta been diff boxer. [00:20]
mircea_popescu maybe hollyfield. [00:20]
asciilifeform *attend [00:20]
decimation asciilifeform: yes but most of those 'usg employees' are not actually on the official payroll [00:21]
decimation lobbyists, lawyers, contractors who 'bill' usg for their services [00:21]
asciilifeform decimation: virtually none of the real 'winners' are on civil service payroll [00:21]
* assbot gives voice to BingoBoingo [00:21]
asciilifeform nobody gets rich off civil service salary [00:21]
asciilifeform 'consulting' - sure [00:21]
decimation ;;ud potomac [00:22]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=potomac | The "Darkhorse" of rich American towns, Potomac is, based on per capita income , the richest community in the Country. While it is often believed that Greenwich ... [00:22]
asciilifeform 'captaining' pseudo-industries - sure [00:22]
asciilifeform ('intellectual property', etc) [00:22]
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decimation someone has to 'provide' the muscle, buildings, etc in all those third world countries usg mucks with [00:22]
asciilifeform cutting straight to the chase - the folks at the management layer of all of these bezzlatrons are kept in mansions, boats, 'hookerz and blow', expensive lawyering, investatron fuel rods, etc. [00:23]
asciilifeform -this- is where the usg budget actually goes. [00:23]
asciilifeform the actual slurping black hole at the center of usgalaxy. [00:24]
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decimation yeah, they are closest to the money that spews forth from usg [00:24]
decimation everyone else in wash dc is just the help [00:24]
asciilifeform the $maxints that simply vanish into the mountain of paper, where a missing $bil in the balance sheets isn't even interesting to the accountants - to the extent the sums represent real, vs. imaginary buying power - [00:25]
asciilifeform this is what ends up bought. [00:25]
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decimation http://www.federalnewsradio.com/697/2012362/SIGIR-Defense-cant-account-for-87-billion [00:25]
assbot SIGIR: Defense can't account for $8.7 billion - FederalNewsRadio.com ... ( http://bit.ly/19aSknt ) [00:25]
asciilifeform ^ items like above are so plentiful that no longer considered newsworthy [00:26]
mircea_popescu cazalla: lol @ USGavin pumping satoshi for his dox straight off the bat << funny how that works, in retrospect huh. [00:26]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's not the abundance that makes them not news worthy. [00:27]
mircea_popescu it's the simple knowledge that the usd is just a scam altcoin anyway. [00:27]
mircea_popescu would you / me / qntra / anyone give a shit about how many ether coins were "Stolen" ? [00:27]
decimation http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/item/13146-medicaid-fraud-in-the-billions [00:27]
assbot Medicaid Fraud in the Billions ... ( http://bit.ly/1EczpC9 ) [00:27]
decimation "The amount[of medicaid fraud], just in New York, is estimated by Issa’s committee to be in excess of $15 billion, equivalent to $1.9 million per patient per year!" [00:28]
mircea_popescu lol issa. [00:28]
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mircea_popescu decimation clearly if more money were spent on healthcare everything'd be better. [00:28]
asciilifeform ^ crank bait [00:29]
mircea_popescu "The amount[of medicaid fraud], just in New York, is estimated by Issa’s committee to be in excess of $15 billion, equivalent to $1.9 million per patient per year!" << ahahaha epic. [00:29]
mircea_popescu oops [00:29]
mircea_popescu assbot: The Lesbian Jewish Leftist Conspiracy Tearing Reddit Apart, Untangled << this i meant. [00:29]
mircea_popescu them redheaded [00:29]
mircea_popescu them redheaded hussies! [00:29]
asciilifeform (either one is meant to conclude that the figure is wildly implausible - or - realize that patients are not walking off with 2m each, and therefore xxx, and xxx is not a subject that can be discussed publicly in usa while retaining credibility in the state media) [00:30]
mircea_popescu because crediblity in the state media is desirable now. [00:30]
asciilifeform to the folks paid to give a fuck - yes [00:30]
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asciilifeform the rest of us don't particularly care where the aethereum goes, as mircea_popescu put it [00:31]
asciilifeform it is quite obvious at this point, roughly where. [00:31]
decimation worrying about the flow of this money is the business of those folks in potomac [00:31]
mircea_popescu "Guy exposed a cabal of users taking over reddit yesterday, spawned a watchdog subreddit of 2500 subscribers overnight, was then banned by reddit's admins, all the subreddit's mods then banned, admins won't say why, and now they're handing the subreddit to the corrupt cabal of users who were exposed." [00:31]
mircea_popescu awwwww. [00:31]
asciilifeform decimation: they don't give a fuck re: the flow of money [00:31]
asciilifeform decimation: only the flow of the yachts, hookers, coke [00:32]
asciilifeform the money - is a proxy [00:32]
asciilifeform if tomorrow these things are not procurable with usd, they will be procured using direct corvee [00:32]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wai wat [00:33]
decimation asciilifeform: I'm not so sure about that. the folks you mention are not exactly used to physically compelling people to get what they want [00:33]
asciilifeform decimation: not personally [00:33]
asciilifeform decimation: but they have an understanding with the specialist guilds. [00:33]
asciilifeform decimation: mircea_popescu seems to think that this understanding will unravel if usd tanks, but i don't grasp how [00:34]
mircea_popescu ok so dear bitcoin-assets, please advise. I'm sitting here reading http://internet.gawker.com/the-lesbian-jewish-leftist-conspiracy-tearing-reddit-ap-1684788589/+tcberman and wodering : am i completely crazy to think this is related to http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless [00:34]
mircea_popescu -tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/#footnote_1_59300 ? [00:34]
assbot The Lesbian Jewish Leftist Conspiracy Tearing Reddit Apart, Untangled ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcB1M9 ) [00:34]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcB4HE ) [00:34]
* asciilifeform neither expert nor has access to the proper intel, however [00:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but if your corvee theory is correct, why exactly was it that one could buy rusting cccp subs on the open market in 1991 ? [00:35]
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mircea_popescu why didn't the politburo just corvee it out ? [00:35]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ru folks had something to surrender to [00:35]
asciilifeform and they eagerly did. [00:35]
mircea_popescu greed ? [00:35]
asciilifeform that something didn't arrive with free 'levi' jeans and disneyland passes for everyone, no [00:35]
asciilifeform but the illusion was convincing enough [00:36]
mircea_popescu the us can surrender to the most serene republic [00:36]
mircea_popescu as i have told them to do already. [00:36]
mircea_popescu why not ? [00:36]
mircea_popescu i would accept fealty from a us puppet president, sure. [00:36]
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BingoBoingo -tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/#footnote_1_59300 ? << Likely, but possible drama independently agitated [00:38]
mircea_popescu mike_c: i blame both of you. thirty lashes. << o.O careful with that, sht hurts. [00:38]
asciilifeform surrender of ussr wasn't the least bit centered on the brass [00:38]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what triggered me was the 8chan pic. seeing how [00:38]
asciilifeform and mircea_popescu knows this [00:38]
mircea_popescu !s 8chan [00:38]
assbot 6 results for '8chan' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=8chan [00:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but it was centered on the aspirational class. as typified by gorby. [00:38]
BingoBoingo Ah [00:39]
asciilifeform everybody from schoolboy in moscow to chukchas - surrendered [00:39]
mircea_popescu sure. [00:39]
asciilifeform everybody who drooled over the 'levis' [00:39]
mircea_popescu everybody drooled over THE WOT. [00:39]
asciilifeform was already surrendered [00:39]
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mircea_popescu it wasn';t the levy's, not at all. [00:39]
mircea_popescu it was belonging. to what ? [00:39]
mircea_popescu to "the world" [00:39]
mircea_popescu which world ? [00:39]
asciilifeform to the 'human' (vs 'orc') world where they 'know how to live' [00:39]
mircea_popescu well... certainly no the 1920-1970 continuum [00:39]
mircea_popescu right. exactly. [00:40]
asciilifeform (a largely imagined animal, you pretty much have to have been there to grok this) [00:40]
mircea_popescu EXACTLY [00:40]
mircea_popescu so... how is la serenissima not exactly fit ? [00:40]
asciilifeform so who and where is drooling over wot ? [00:40]
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mircea_popescu everyone i know. [00:40]
asciilifeform i mean, in the lands of barbarism [00:40]
mircea_popescu do the experiment yourself. ask peopel what the ideal world is. [00:40]
mircea_popescu notice what they express. [00:40]
mircea_popescu how they call it is irrelevant. note what they substantiall say. [00:41]
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asciilifeform they're drooling over fast car, easy women, etc. - not wot [00:41]
BingoBoingo wd mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/02/usd-fraud-collapses-suitability-of-usd-for-law-abiding-citizens-in-commerce-questioned/#comment-10019 [00:41]
assbot USD Fraud Collapses: Suitability of USD for Law Abiding Citizens In Commerce Questioned | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcCXnP ) [00:41]
mircea_popescu not that i've seen. [00:41]
mircea_popescu for one thing, women are easier than ever. and they're mostly affraid of them. why ? [00:42]
asciilifeform because they never learned to safely unscrew the detonator ? [00:43]
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mircea_popescu mike_c: yeah, cazalla and BingoBoingo are getting it done. < +1 [00:43]
asciilifeform (in usa they have secondary anti-handling detonators) [00:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform as far as they see it, because fucktarded politburo is poisonng gender relaitons. [00:43]
mircea_popescu this is exactly true, incidentally. [00:44]
asciilifeform that it is true is about the same kind of 'secret' as the 'missing $maxint' [00:44]
mircea_popescu right. [00:45]
mircea_popescu so yes, the reagent is there. [00:45]
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asciilifeform thing is, unlike soviet 'line', usg does not have a universally (or even widely) subscribed to opposite. [00:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10927 @ 0.00042981 = 4.6965 BTC [+] [00:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform most importantly : note that at the time they surrendered en masse, less than 1% of 1% had BEEN THERE [00:46]
mircea_popescu right ? [00:46]
mircea_popescu they did it on hearsay. right ? [00:46]
asciilifeform yes [00:46]
decimation moldbug had a piece on this, then tried to invent some 'tarded 'antiversity' thing [00:46]
mircea_popescu the matches are numerous. [00:46]
asciilifeform decimation: mr mold had enough brains to understand that his entire edifice falls apart without the answer to this riddle, but was unable to come up with a plausible one [00:46]
asciilifeform and instead crapped out - well - that [00:47]
mircea_popescu necessity is the mother of invention. and also, stupidity. [00:47]
asciilifeform and as far as 'man on the street' in usa is concerned - the opposite of usg is 'mad max'. [00:47]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform but the "man in the street" in russia STILL has batyushka portraits! [00:48]
mircea_popescu it wasn't the man in the street. it was EXACTLY the famished student. [00:48]
mircea_popescu the guy who has to choose between "VC shot" and "WoT" [00:49]
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decimation eh, as long as everyone in the us has a full belly nothing is going to change [00:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: how much work to auto-kick join/part sp4mz0rz? << i occasionally do it, but meh. [00:50]
mircea_popescu decimation nobody was actually starving in russia in 1988 [00:50]
mircea_popescu i mean that literally. nobody. more people were starving in new york than in russia. [00:50]
decimation yeah that's probably true [00:51]
mircea_popescu this was a major propaganda point (soviet propaganda had the unique distinction of actually being mostly true). nobody cared. [00:51]
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asciilifeform nobody... starving in russia in '88 << plenty in '93 [00:53]
asciilifeform and yet 'omg111!111! levis' [00:53]
mircea_popescu right ? [00:54]
mircea_popescu so that's not a major driver of the behaviour. [00:54]
mircea_popescu also, it was plainly apparent to everyone in 88 that yes, 93 will be starving [00:54]
mircea_popescu NOBODY CARED. [00:54]
mircea_popescu even the people who could readily realise it'd be them, didn't care. [00:54]
asciilifeform took 50+ years of 24/7 massage [00:54]
mircea_popescu the romanian folklore has the exact discussion of this behaviour, as folklore. [00:55]
mircea_popescu ;;google da-ma mama dupa gyury ca ma tine-n virfu pulii [00:55]
gribble No matches found. [00:55]
mircea_popescu orly. [00:55]
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mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ63C-DLk_Q < [00:56]
assbot Da-ma mama dupa Iura - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXNHgE ) [00:56]
asciilifeform if every male in usa had been secretly wanking to chicom gurlz under his blankets since... 1920s? - then we'd have an analogous thing going [00:56]
decimation and in his adult years, secretly reading foreign journals in his sharishka [00:58]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform why's chicom come into it ?! [01:02]
mircea_popescu decimation well... qntra's getting moar popular :D [01:02]
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decimation lol I didn't know that korolev was a zek [01:06]
mircea_popescu incredibly, iirc this is actually mentioned in teh logs. [01:09]
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decimation ah yes, indeed. it is good to read old logs again [01:16]
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mircea_popescu jesus this is hard. [01:17]
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mircea_popescu for the record it's /mode #bitcoin-assets -b *!*zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit [01:18]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: but for remoras - the swiftest possible discipline. << eh, it's best to fix problems well after rather than well before they're problems. [01:19]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2015#1015762 << this is lulzy. what it essentially says is, "this court will not protect the defendant's rights" [01:28]
assbot Logged on 11-02-2015 15:54:47; asciilifeform: 'Based on the public record, the Court finds that the Plaintiffs have failed to establish a sufficient factual basis to find they have standing to sue under the Fourth Amendment regarding the possible interception of their Internet communications. Further, having reviewed the Government Defendants’ classified submissions, the Court finds that the Claim must be dismissed because even if [01:28]
mircea_popescu the logical segue is, "well it's a LOT better to publish the stuff on the internet than to submit it to a court" [01:28]
mircea_popescu "i bet you mp wouldn't say the USG gets to make classified filings" [01:29]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2015#1015800 << leapfrogs ? :D [01:30]
assbot Logged on 11-02-2015 17:34:08; ben_vulpes: i went to sleep mourning the computers my children seem doomed to use. [01:30]
mircea_popescu hanbot: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vjzk7/gavin_and_the_cia/ << reddit suppression brigade hard at work. cause keeping the sheep in the dark is a winning strat now. << to get a 45% result you need something like 20 votes cast, 11-9 unless my math's deceiving me. [01:32]
assbot Gavin and the CIA : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1zNE79Z ) [01:32]
decimation mircea_popescu: even judges want to feel like they are in the usg wot [01:32]
mircea_popescu there's no usg wot tho, is the problem. [01:32]
asciilifeform why's chicom come into it ?! << example of empire to surrender to [01:32]
asciilifeform there's no usg wot tho << closest thing to a format usg wot may be the infamous 'plum book' [01:33]
mircea_popescu russians didn't surrender to iran ffs. [01:34]
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mircea_popescu why would the us surrender to china. [01:34]
asciilifeform they surrendered to the one and only mega-empire of the period. [01:34]
mircea_popescu no, they surrendered to the best wot to be had at the time. [01:35]
asciilifeform that massaged them for surrender for half a century. [01:35]
mircea_popescu it wasn't even us per se, it was more west germany than us. [01:35]
decimation asciilifeform: but the 'plum book wot' isn't really going to modify what the career bureaucrats think, see moldbug [01:35]
asciilifeform reflects, not modifies [01:35]
mircea_popescu hanbot lol [01:36]
*hanboti* nighty :* [01:36]
asciilifeform unrelated, [01:38]
asciilifeform in case no one noticed, [01:38]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2015#1015730 [01:38]
assbot Logged on 11-02-2015 15:09:50; asciilifeform: ^ it synced. [01:38]
mircea_popescu cool beans. [01:38]
asciilifeform tease preview: [01:39]
asciilifeform i've a bitcoind monstrous chimera with custom allocator [01:39]
asciilifeform but needs a little massage, and am presently mired in actual paying work (tm) [01:39]
asciilifeform custom allocator, meaning, actually aware of own footprint [01:40]
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decimation asciilifeform: how did you tame layers of c++/boost mempool crud? [01:40]
asciilifeform magic. [01:41]
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mircea_popescu lol [01:47]
mircea_popescu looking forward to the list drop. [01:47]
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mircea_popescu eh wtf is this. [08:51]
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mircea_popescu whaack: I think multisig for that reason is retarded, I thought the main purpose is for personal use to reduce the chance I fuck something up << why do you think your personal measures against fucking something up should be world-readable ? [08:57]
fluffypony thanks mircea_popescu [08:58]
mircea_popescu if i keep a spare pair of panties in my briefcase in case i shit myself, i do not send a record of their purchase to the new york times, for publication in their news section, nor do i send the unfortunate reports of the occurence for the obit section. [08:58]
fluffypony was starting to get on my nerves [08:58]
mircea_popescu fluffypony a that. i imagine. [08:58]
mircea_popescu wtf ban evasion is this, can be arsed to avoid a ban, can't be arsed to fix bouncer. [08:58]
mircea_popescu whaack: It seems like something that takes a little bravery other than just holding and seeing which chain wins << what exact bravery does it take ? you get dollars for it. [08:59]
mircea_popescu takes exactly as much bravery as eating cake. [08:59]
mircea_popescu whaack: anyways I came here to ask if you guys have btc entrepreneurial ideas that you think are good but just don't have time to get around to << jobs pop up occasionally. you have to read the log to have a chance at them. this is intentional. [09:00]
mircea_popescu why am i even talking at this guy anyway. [09:01]
fluffypony oh my Pogo Plugs just arrived! [09:02]
mircea_popescu o hey cool. [09:04]
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mircea_popescu iiincredible how chrome ate firefox' lunch. [09:11]
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mircea_popescu for the record, i've made a complete backup of tlp's site. 702 articles it has. [09:18]
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mircea_popescu "Except the argument isn't grounded in reality. Saying something vague like "people need these drugs," misses the immediate point: which drugs? On what grounds is it even possible to say that people "need something" that didn't exist until a company created it?" [09:22]
mircea_popescu heh heh. [09:23]
mircea_popescu "The problem, in part, in this debate arises from scientists confusing discovery or research with invention. Looked at in terms of the production of novel material, certain distinctions can be made. Discovery and research are not creative acts. While they require creative thinking, they do not add anything materially new to the world. Alternatively, invention is the act of creating something that did not exist. There w [09:23]
mircea_popescu as no Prozac or Tylenol until someone invented it." [09:23]
mircea_popescu but... if it didn't exist... then how was it that "the company" made it ?! [09:23]
mircea_popescu was there no gold before mendeleev ? or what, did he invent "eka-aluminium" ? [09:24]
mircea_popescu does all gallium belong to mendeleev's estate now ? [09:24]
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thestringpuller oh hey, wassup romanian camel guy [10:28]
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chetty and this is a bloody nightmare: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/11/fcc-commissioner-proposed-internet-regulation-mimics-obamacare/ [11:32]
assbot FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/16XIJ1X ) [11:32]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/synonymy-is-a-myth/ [11:35]
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mircea_popescu http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/11/fcc-commissioner-proposed-internet-regulation-mimics-obamacare/ [11:59]
assbot FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/16XIJ1X ) [11:59]
mircea_popescu “adopting a solution that won’t work to a problem that doesn’t exist using legal authority we don’t have,” [12:00]
mircea_popescu “nowhere does the agency identify any kind of systemic harm in the Internet economy, but nonetheless it invents one in order to regulate it, and so it’s this classic situation where we’re adopting a solution that won’t work to a problem that doesn’t exist using legal authority we don’t have.” [12:01]
mircea_popescu pill to bitcoin ? burn down the internet! [12:01]
mircea_popescu mebbe qntra worthy. [12:02]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/statistics-still-the-hardest-part-of-math/ [12:44]
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asciilifeform FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' << astroturf and misdirection. regardless of which branch of usg is at the helm (fcc or verizon) - the train will still end up at the same stop: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208 [13:15]
assbot Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future” ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZsTSk ) [13:15]
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asciilifeform works great here [13:26]
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gribble mthreat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <+mircea_popescu> ... << yeh but how are we to verify! << I actually got pics of me holding up the blockchain iPhone app transaction, in front of the Port Lockroy building with a sign visible! [13:26]
danielpbarron very strange; i can ping it from my irc machine, and not from my laptop [13:27]
mircea_popescu is your laptop on the fccinternet ? [13:27]
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asciilifeform l0l [13:29]
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ben_vulpes and now thestringpuller's flapping... [14:35]
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mthreat mike_c: i'm here [14:59]
mike_c hello! have you seen the recent revival of the stemming argument. [14:59]
mthreat no [14:59]
mike_c the argument is basically that stemming is making it harder to find things on search.b-a, not easier [15:00]
mthreat ok. i can turn it off easily, (and back on later if we want). [15:00]
mike_c that would be great. [15:00]
mike_c i think no-stemming, but having prefix-wildcards should satisfy everyone [15:01]
mthreat ok, will be ready in a few minutes with stemming off. prefix wildcards are always on. [15:03]
mike_c awesome. thanks. [15:03]
mthreat np [15:03]
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pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/12/fuckin-diddle-her-twat/ [15:36]
assbot Fuckin’ diddle her twat. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOzsbo ) [15:36]
pete_dushenski ;;ticker [15:41]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.15, Best ask: 222.21, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 222.15, 24 hour volume: 6238.07681239, 24 hour low: 217.99, 24 hour high: 222.99, 24 hour vwap: 220.711036885 [15:41]
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pete_dushenski !up thestringpuller_ [15:43]
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thestringpuller_ I got ddosed :( [15:44]
pete_dushenski cloak went down ? [15:44]
thestringpuller_ yea during netsplit [15:44]
thestringpuller_ no other explanation for internet go down, and it's more than circumstantial that internet went down shortly after cloak went down [15:44]
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mike_c asciilifeform: stemming is off search.b-a. give it a whirl sometime. [15:45]
thestringpuller_ don't seem to get ddosed from freenode tho [15:46]
thestringpuller_ from freenode webchat*** [15:46]
mike_c maybe the regex isn't too good [15:47]
thestringpuller_ jurov: what method do you use? [15:48]
thestringpuller_ for ddos mitigation [15:48]
thestringpuller_ I'll give that a shot when Amazon approves my fucking Amazon payments account. [15:49]
thestringpuller_ they prefer to use Amazon Payments for billing tho for that [15:50]
thestringpuller_ oh [15:50]
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thestringpuller_ Yea I don't have debit cards. [15:50]
thestringpuller_ I pay for everything with cash in hand. [15:51]
thestringpuller_ Yea [15:51]
thestringpuller_ all that stuff [15:51]
thestringpuller_ "ARE U TERRORIST?" [15:51]
thestringpuller_ won't they fine you for giving resources to someone who is not "in the system" lol [15:53]
thestringpuller_ aka "You can't buy bitcoins with cash because children and stuffs" [15:53]
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pete_dushenski so apparently paris is going right off the deep end with its "anti-pollution" nonsense [16:08]
pete_dushenski as of july 2015, no cars built before 1997 will be permitted in the city centre [16:08]
pete_dushenski by 2020, diesels made after 2011 won't be allowed in [16:09]
pete_dushenski all this to try to "stimulate" the economy and "encourage" people to take transit [16:10]
pete_dushenski i'm all for walkable cities, but taking some and not all cars off the road strikes of lunacy [16:10]
pete_dushenski peugeot, citroen, renault probably think this'll help them [16:11]
pete_dushenski like some sekrit bailout that no one has to know about [16:11]
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pete_dushenski though this rule is only in effect from 8am to 8pm daily [16:14]
pete_dushenski source: http://fr.reuters.com/article/topNews/idFRKBN0LD19920150209 [16:14]
assbot Le plan anti-pollution de la maire de Paris adopté [16:14]
pete_dushenski do we have anyone other than davout from france here ? [16:15]
pete_dushenski i seem to recall one other at least... [16:16]
mike_c he left cuz we're a cult. [16:19]
pete_dushenski lol o that's right [16:19]
gribble Order id 22002 created. [16:19]
jurov ha. hustle must go on. [16:19]
pete_dushenski i pushed panks over the edge, didn't i [16:20]
pete_dushenski "France’s Total plans to cut 2,000 jobs, sell assets after big loss in oil markets" [16:20]
pete_dushenski ^not going to be helped by moar efficiency [16:20]
mircea_popescu heh [16:20]
pete_dushenski but hey, iatrogenics are on purpose sometimes! [16:20]
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mircea_popescu i have no words to describe how derpy argentines are. [16:22]
pete_dushenski cut them some slack eh [16:22]
pete_dushenski when was their last king ? [16:22]
mircea_popescu np << o hey, how's the south pole ? [16:23]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski basically what i see is a cargo cult generation. if you've ever seen monty python's twit of the year sketch that's basiclaly the idea. [16:24]
mircea_popescu their grandparents were pretty cool. their parents rather mediocre. now they're fucked in the head. [16:24]
mircea_popescu they kinda get a very superficial formal thing about granpa, but otherwise the head dun work. [16:25]
mircea_popescu argentina is set for a much more major collapse than anyone seems to realise. [16:25]
pete_dushenski hm. not sure that anyone is giving the 'tines much in the way of odds these days [16:26]
pete_dushenski other than thumbing their nose at teh american judges, they don't seem to be thriving [16:26]
pete_dushenski but hey, these days, who is ? [16:27]
mircea_popescu france :D [16:27]
pete_dushenski lol! [16:27]
pete_dushenski mebbe that's why kakkes left. [16:27]
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mircea_popescu anyway, it's a great place, but the people are inept to a degree that can not even be put into words. doesn't even look like a year's famine would be enough, more biblical measures required, 30 years in the desert, stuff like that. [16:28]
pete_dushenski the weather will do that [16:29]
pete_dushenski see northern mediterraneans [16:29]
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ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: i'm all for banning cars. [16:31]
ben_vulpes horrid invention. [16:32]
mircea_popescu "no cars in town" is not a bad idea. [16:32]
ben_vulpes especially in the mass production everyone having one. [16:32]
ben_vulpes they're brutal on the roads. [16:32]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: that's like saying "the car is a horrid invention because i don't like windoze" [16:32]
ben_vulpes roads themselves aren't expensive, nor the maintenance thereof but rather the wear and tear from 2-ton tardboxes [16:32]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski right. those twits ? their dad was nobody, some anon derp with, as orwell put it, "Well-meaning, over-civilized men, in dark suits and black felt hats, with neatly rolled umbrellas crooked over the left forearm, were imposing their constipated view of life" [16:32]
pete_dushenski s/car/computer [16:32]
mircea_popescu but the grandfather was you know, "peccavi" [16:32]
mircea_popescu General Sir Charles James Napier, GCB [16:33]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: well i exaggerate for btclulz. clearly *you* are deserving of your mercs and what have you, but the state of every pleb in their own plastic wheelbox has got to go. [16:33]
ben_vulpes and yes, the "computer" as a modern invention (from the c machine on forwards to the consumer laptop) is an entirely awful fork in the technological roadmap. [16:34]
ben_vulpes see previous thread about "wake me when compute costs 1btc/hr". [16:34]
pete_dushenski well i'm hardly going to disagree that everyone getting something "just as good" makes the whole lot of us worse off [16:34]
mircea_popescu soo... slavedrawn mercs ? [16:35]
pete_dushenski no cars in town is a perfectly sensible idea in most parts of the world [16:35]
pete_dushenski lol well the thing drinks like 30L/100km so that's a lot of (indirect) slave labour from the oil sands up north [16:36]
ben_vulpes for all that it's a communist paradise, portland does get this right. lots of super annoying stop lights on major thoroughfares throughout the east side. [16:36]
ben_vulpes east side being mostly residential, mostly small streets. [16:36]
pete_dushenski iirc there was a german city that was going to all-out ban cars in the city centre [16:36]
pete_dushenski a sizeable city it was [16:36]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes that's the wrong approach imo. [16:37]
mircea_popescu like the fucking speed bumps. [16:37]
pete_dushenski as to whether this works in the populated arctic... i dunno [16:37]
mircea_popescu i don't need to be jostled just because sopme other fuckhead can't drive at his speed. [16:37]
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pete_dushenski ah, it was hamburg [16:40]
pete_dushenski and it aims to be car-free in the city centre... by 2034 [16:41]
pete_dushenski which is reasonable given that in 20 years the serene republic will own it as a summer resort ;) [16:42]
mircea_popescu except this is a naked problem of power. i would be ok with a "no cars" town in which i personally can drive if i feel like. [16:42]
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mircea_popescu i will not be ok with a "no cars" town in which the fucking mayor/police/you get to drive if you feel like [16:42]
mircea_popescu and by "not ok" i mean i will fucking shoot you over it. [16:42]
mircea_popescu this being a bit of a problem, practically. [16:42]
pete_dushenski well imagine that there will be "no car" rules in most major cities in 20 years [16:43]
mircea_popescu in the sense of "no cars for you" [16:44]
pete_dushenski and that #b-a badges and #b-a plates will roam the streets freely [16:44]
mircea_popescu which yes, it has to happen, because most "major cities" are inhabited by... twits. [16:44]
pete_dushenski because no city mayor/police/etc can very well stand in the way of the leaders of the free world [16:45]
mircea_popescu "Marching gets our message out." No it doesn't, it gets CNN's message out. "We don't watch CNN, we use the internet." Yet given the infinity of the internet you still surf the same 5 websites, looking for and finding exactly what you want, like a baby playing peekaboo in a mirror over and over and over and over and over and over and... [16:45]
mircea_popescu this tlp guy... i love him. [16:45]
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mthreat <+mircea_popescu> o hey, how's the south pole ? << well technically we only got to just past 60 degrees south latitude, but it was cool. Lots of penguins, whales, killer whales, seals, ice, and mountains. And retirees, on the boat. [17:18]
mircea_popescu lol [17:19]
mircea_popescu you made it on everyone;s bucket list boat. [17:19]
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ben_vulpes but did you you know *make it* in the bucket list boat? [17:22]
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mircea_popescu innit kinda cold '? [17:32]
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mthreat lowest temp was about -1 C. It's summer in antarctica. [17:39]
mthreat wind is a factor sometimes. highest wind we saw was 60 mph [17:39]
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mircea_popescu ah [17:45]
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pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/stevejennings1/status/558577556749037569/photo/1 << dear pankkake, we're a culture, not a cult! [18:11]
assbot Culture or cult? by /davegray Cc /goonth /petervan /jhagel /TomLaForge /umairh /shelleykuipers /katrynadow /gringreen http://t.co/BmNccK0s6h [18:11]
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mircea_popescu the difference is negligible. [18:14]
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punkman all I see is cornholes [18:15]
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punkman https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/565595253319938049/photo/1 [18:19]
assbot **Putin arrives at airport, gets in line at customs** [18:19]
cazalla you guys and your city living [18:31]
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cazalla !up thestringpuller [19:01]
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thestringpuller thx cazalla [19:02]
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thestringpuller how is assets today? [19:02]
PeterL quite quiet [19:02]
thestringpuller i got ddosed I think. AT&T claimed it was a power surge on their DNS server rack but that didn't make sense [19:03]
thestringpuller i hit a netsplit and the second my ip was showing the router started showing a lot of traffic [19:03]
PeterL why does freenode show ip addresses anyway? [19:04]
fluffypony why do any IRC servers show IP addresses [19:06]
fluffypony like it's frikkin 1996 [19:06]
PeterL seems hard to believe this is the first time somebody used irc ip addresses to target attacks? [19:07]
mircea_popescu PeterL because the last tiem anyone thought about this it was 1996, and the next time anyone wil lthink about this it will be to systemdize it [19:08]
mircea_popescu this is the first time powerful people were involved in irc, since also 1996. [19:08]
BingoBoingo Tried building some stock versions of bitcoin-qt on OpenBSD last night. Here's the tail end of the compiler output where the errors spring forth from: http://dpaste.com/2RDXRT1 [19:12]
assbot dpaste: 2RDXRT1 ... ( http://bit.ly/16ZY1CZ ) [19:12]
BingoBoingo Build fine for a while, hit's a brick wall on protocol.cpp [19:13]
BingoBoingo ^ Particular instance there was stock 0.5.3 [19:15]
danielpbarron http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg07020.html "As such, the blockchain can never support All The Transactions, even [19:16]
assbot Re: [Bitcoin-development] replace-by-fee v0.10.0rc4 ... ( http://bit.ly/16ZZ99H ) [19:16]
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danielpbarron if block size increases beyond 20MB." [19:16]
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ascii_field danke BingoBoingo [19:16]
ascii_field BingoBoingo: if you want to build on bsd, set the ifdefs as if for mac [19:16]
BingoBoingo ascii danke [19:16]
BingoBoingo Digging through old porting efforts I get the feeling some linux settings use linux only functions in a pulse audio manner [19:17]
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thestringpuller ugh pulse audio needs to die [19:21]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1.9999 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 67.9229 BTC. Current weight: 90,943. [19:33]
[]bot Bet placed: 2.9989 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 70.9218 BTC. Current weight: 90,942. [19:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11536 @ 0.00041993 = 4.8443 BTC [+] {3} [19:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18253 @ 0.00043174 = 7.8806 BTC [+] [19:48]
thestringpuller thanks PeterL [19:52]
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mod6 BingoBoingo: you trying to v0.5.3 on BSD? [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24789 @ 0.00043756 = 10.8467 BTC [+] {3} [20:00]
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mod6 !up thestringpuller [20:06]
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BingoBoingo mod6: I'm trying to Bitcoin-qt on BSD. Waiting until night when it's colder so I can compile in the garage so I have more thermal headroom. Unlike the linux I'd been using OpenBSD respects this machine's temperature sensors. [20:08]
mod6 ah, well anyway, i'm pretty close to having v0.5.3.1 building on freebsd [20:09]
ascii_field ditto netbsd [20:09]
mod6 (having a linking problem related to this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.6.1/src/util.cpp#L14) [20:09]
assbot bitcoin/util.cpp at v0.6.1 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1voFlTE ) [20:09]
BingoBoingo I'm at the firing in anger stage of quitting linux, so moving the tools I use to OpenBSD. [20:09]
mod6 but im using boost 1.55, and i think i need to be using 1.42 which is horribru to get working so far. [20:10]
mod6 anyway, with protocol.cpp: [20:10]
mod6 add: [20:10]
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mod6 #include [20:11]
mod6 #include [20:11]
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mod6 at least, that's what I had do to do. [20:11]
mod6 *had to do [20:13]
danielpbarron haha BingoBoingo i have a fan that i clip under my laptop to cool during compiles [20:15]
thestringpuller ugh boost is annoying to get working if you don't have the exact version [20:15]
PeterL what does boost do? [20:15]
thestringpuller It's a C++ extension library [20:15]
thestringpuller to add things like threads and other random bullshit [20:15]
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BingoBoingo It exists because the CPP standard library sucks [20:16]
thestringpuller It would be amazing if mod6 and ben_vulpes could rip it out of the code completely [20:16]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [20:16]
PeterL those are not available in c++? [20:16]
thestringpuller no they aren't [20:16]
thestringpuller you have to build it yourself or use another library [20:17]
thestringpuller and as BingoBoingo just said, CPP standard lib is terrible [20:17]
thestringpuller its like libc done wrong ~_~ [20:17]
PeterL then why do so many people use it? [20:17]
BingoBoingo PeterL: Because it is what they get paid to use [20:17]
thestringpuller don't think satoshi had a sense of smell for code or would have known he was building bricks from excrement [20:18]
PeterL what would you want to build in if you had a choice? [20:18]
thestringpuller i would build everything in assembly [20:19]
thestringpuller jk [20:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00042107 = 10.0215 BTC [-] {2} [20:40]
mircea_popescu !up hegemoOn [20:42]
-assbot- You voiced hegemoOn for 30 minutes. [20:42]
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hegemoOn thank you [20:42]
mircea_popescu sure. [20:43]
mircea_popescu !up blz [20:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00042519 = 1.1055 BTC [+] [20:49]
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danielpbarron https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq#top_4 "Haiku is not a Linux distribution, nor does it use the Linux kernel." << is this worth looking into? I don't know much about it. [21:03]
assbot General FAQ | Haiku Project ... ( http://bit.ly/17pw1de ) [21:03]
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mircea_popescu might be yes [21:11]
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danielpbarron lol they take donations through coinbase [21:15]
danielpbarron i'm trying to buy a cd but it doesn't look like they sell one [21:15]
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asciilifeform http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2015/Feb/42 [21:24]
assbot Full Disclosure: CVE-2014-6412 - WordPress (all versions) lacks CSPRNG ... ( http://bit.ly/17pCkxx ) [21:24]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu ^ [21:25]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: haiku << yet another 'c os', but with questionable posixness and 'we're different because we're special' derp [21:25]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: on top of that, x86-32 (yes) only [21:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19953 @ 0.00042327 = 8.4455 BTC [-] {2} [21:28]
BingoBoingo Haiku >> BeOS resurrection attempt. Neverming that BeOS and the BeBox were Power PC [21:28]
asciilifeform beos minus the ui or the commercial softs [21:29]
asciilifeform and minus the be. [21:29]
BingoBoingo That too [21:31]
BingoBoingo And incredibly slow to get to the point of resembling anything, much less being anything https://www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Haiku-selfhosting [21:36]
assbot [openbeos] Haiku self-hosting. - openbeos - FreeLists ... ( http://bit.ly/17pFHEu ) [21:36]
asciilifeform bebox, afaik, never had anything like 1g of ram [21:37]
asciilifeform and was famous for smooth real-time interaction [21:37]
asciilifeform (film editors, etc.) [21:37]
asciilifeform these idiots - don't deserve so much as the time of day. [21:38]
BingoBoingo Also bebox was one good looking piece of hardware [21:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is not news ? [21:40]
mircea_popescu kindawhy all the bruteforcing of wp blog admin pws. [21:42]
asciilifeform in that sense, not news [21:44]
asciilifeform in other news, [21:44]
asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/EuoNzHn.jpg << picked this up for later. [21:44]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/170EIcO ) [21:44]
asciilifeform ~17 usd. [21:44]
asciilifeform available in qty. $maxint [21:44]
asciilifeform (all the ports on the box are visible in the photo) [21:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9598 @ 0.00040889 = 3.9245 BTC [-] [21:48]
mike_c oddly hypnotic: http://i.imgur.com/JHBwH3f.jpg [21:49]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/170FCGc ) [21:49]
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jurov i can't find myself :'( [21:52]
mike_c jurov: you're three right of mircea. thestringpuller is crowding you with his long name. [21:56]
mike_c https://s3.amazonaws.com/btcalpha/static/foobar.svg [21:56]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/170HBdB ) [21:56]
jurov i guessed it right [21:58]
mike_c magicaltux is just past 3 o'clock. lots of thick red lines incoming :) [21:59]
jurov yes,. guessed that too [21:59]
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jurov hi brenda [22:02]
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jurov !up brendafdez [22:05]
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brendafdez thanks [22:06]
brendafdez I was considering seeing that most anyone is running a ponzi scheme on facebook, I wouldn twant to miss out, but your opinion on the matter would be greatly appreciated. What would you consider an appropriate domain name? [22:07]
brendafdez Either for the ponzi scheme or for a perosnal blog, i'm still not sure which one to do first ;) [22:07]
brendafdez i did read the DNS post, thankfully my own name and the domain i use for pretty much everything start with br already [22:08]
jurov lol why us? [22:08]
brendafdez because [22:08]
jurov !s forlorn [22:09]
assbot 1 results for 'forlorn' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=forlorn [22:09]
jurov ^my ideas, free to use [22:09]
BingoBoingo !b 9 [22:09]
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brendafdez ^facebook^bitcoin [22:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00040889 = 5.152 BTC [-] [22:10]
BingoBoingo brendafdez: If you really want to run a ponzi scheme you might be better off on Friendster. Facebook is pretty much a law enforcement honeypot anymore. [22:12]
brendafdez I meant bitcoin instead of facebook, I trid to replace the word later ;) [22:12]
BingoBoingo And ponzi schemes are so passe. Better just go back to the old Black Hand racket. [22:13]
jurov brendafdez: won't you rather do an affiliate for honest-to-God dice game? [22:13]
brendafdez provable fairness is not my cup of tea [22:14]
jurov !b 1 [22:14]
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