Forum logs for 13 Aug 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 34 @ 0.31980301 = 10.8733 BTC [+] {6} [00:05]
* jonvaage has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.32702028 = 7.8485 BTC [+] {6} [00:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.33933333 = 3.054 BTC [+] {3} [00:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.341 = 0.682 BTC [+] {2} [00:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 517 @ 0.00319224 = 1.6504 BTC [+] {4} [00:09]
* zoinky has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [00:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 324 @ 0.00320925 = 1.0398 BTC [+] {2} [00:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0007418 = 3.709 BTC [+] [00:13]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: the people payong [00:13]
thestringpuller paying* [00:13]
* kermit has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [00:13]
* chax_ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:16]
mike_c you don't have to cater to the person paying. if you are providing a premium product customers will deal with the headaches. would you jump through some hoops to get an ad on what if they said it had to be text only? [00:17]
mike_c or, more to the point, say trilema was actually running an ad slot (hint hint). [00:18]
* mjr_ (~Thunderbi@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:18]
mike_c or loper-os. i'd pay for that shit and say thank you for putting my text on your site. [00:19]
mike_c so really what you're saying is you don't think the venues available right now are worth the headache. which may or may not be true. [00:19]
asciilifeform mike_c: unlikely that anyone will ever offer enough to make it worth 'my site has ads now'... [00:19]
mike_c but, i would say you are more likely to allow a text-only ad. perhaps not. [00:20]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [00:20]
asciilifeform mike_c: not if the text is 'lol cockz' [00:20]
* ADutchGamer has quit (Quit: ADutchGamer) [00:20]
mike_c yes, well, i am not loper so i don't get to be picky :) [00:21]
* ADutchGamer ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:21]
mike_c i'm actually not doing it for the money. btcalpha isn't meant to be directly monetized. [00:21]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:21]
asciilifeform mike_c: must confess, i might submit to the indignity of ads on my site if it meant actual money [00:22]
asciilifeform mike_c: but who and why would spend actual money on it, is a mystery [00:22]
mike_c how much would it take? btc/month. [00:22]
* pete_dushenski (~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:22]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [00:23]
asciilifeform mike_c: that's like asking 'how many btc you want for your nail clippings' [00:23]
asciilifeform mike_c: say, 10/mo. for either my nail clippings or ads on site. [00:23]
mike_c that might not be out of the question. [00:24]
mike_c retardtalk gets 50/mo [00:24]
* daybyter ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:25]
asciilifeform lol, what do i need to smoke for this to make sense [00:25]
mike_c you're probably already smoking it. you need to have a valuable audience. [00:25]
asciilifeform retardtalk is run by expert chumpatronic engineers. [00:25]
mike_c so imagine how you could monetize an audience that is not composed of chumps. you're actually selling me here :) [00:26]
mike_c who knew ascii was expert negotiator. big "go away" sign on lawn attracts customers [00:26]
asciilifeform ever read 'scientific american' pre-'97 or so ? [00:26]
asciilifeform they had rather peculiar ad clients [00:27]
mike_c hm. don't think so [00:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 677 @ 0.00180576 = 1.2225 BTC [-] {9} [00:27]
asciilifeform ad contents was heavily geared to the stuff aging 'imperial age' americans with intellectual inclinations might buy. primarily - whiskey. [00:27]
* OX3_ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:28]
mike_c well it wasn't charity. it probably worked. [00:28]
asciilifeform ... it didn't work. ad revenue from the fine scotch drinkers did not suffice. magazine was: sold, dumbed down hilariously [00:29]
* chax_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:29]
mike_c hm. advertising successfully is hard but not impossible. i don't take this to mean loper couldn't be monetized effectively. [00:30]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:30]
asciilifeform i'm open to it, so long as serious money and i don't have to promise any kind of detectable result to anyone. [00:31]
asciilifeform (have i turned everybody off yet?) [00:31]
mike_c nope, that's what vanads is all about. serious money is still TBD. [00:32]
BingoBoingo mike_c: but who and why would spend actual money on it, is a mystery << Pretty much all I'd spend money on is "lol, cocks" or "White Africa Future" (link to interracial gangbang) or perhaps some other mischeif... [00:32]
mike_c yes but you aren't running a consumer facing buisness. [00:32]
mike_c WoL will be an advertiser soon. [00:32]
* kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:34]
penguirker New blog post: [00:35]
* theodred (~theodred@gateway/tor-sasl/theodred) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:36]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you want to pay 10/mo to display 'lol cockz in white africa' i'm game... [00:36]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The point of the game is that one never knows when troll ad enters their rotation. Troll ad simply appears [00:38]
* assbot gives voice to theodred [00:38]
BingoBoingo Still prolly better than those glossy mining hardware things [00:38]
* theodred is now known as d-dimer [00:39]
BingoBoingo d-dimer: Is it a clot? [00:39]
* BingoBoingo references of course the test for fibrin degeneration products in the blood, known as a d-dimer [00:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25444 @ 0.00074216 = 18.8835 BTC [+] {2} [00:42]
* d-dimer has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [00:43]
asciilifeform i confess i'm somewhat suspicious of anything which suggests to 'monetize' my site, which is more or less the polar inverse of 'monetizable' in the usual sense. [00:44]
mike_c well, it's the audience that is monetized. [00:47]
jborkl ok, i will report in 30 days how the orange cat article is doing, filled with keywords and nonsense [00:47]
BingoBoingo jborkl: lol you forgot to credit where petel got his idea from, and I mean so far its his only one [00:52]
jborkl let me correct that, he got it from you if I am reading that correct? [00:54]
* andreas ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:54]
* daybyter has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [00:54]
BingoBoingo jborkl: Well, what does his post say? [00:55]
jborkl sorry I was talking to someone else here [00:55]
* darlidada has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [00:57]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:59]
* jdanks1 (~john@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:03]
* CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/ has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:04]
* andreas has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:05]
mike_c BingoBoingo: i'm looking for an example for a blog post. who is currently the 2nd best sports bitcoin betting site? [01:06]
nubbins` man, i went to fedex to mail some coins and i had to fill out two goddamn enormous forms [01:07]
nubbins` so nosy! [01:07]
mike_c BingoBoingo: bah, nvmnd, sorry. they all suck. [01:08]
BingoBoingo mike_c: That's a good question. Prolly Cloudbet or Nitrogen sports. Maybe Anonibet? All I really do sports betting wise any more off of BitBet is penny bets on baseball and bigger bets against Serena according to the bet against Serena algorithm [01:08]
mike_c heh. i didn't see the end the other day, did venus manage to beat her? [01:08]
BingoBoingo But yeah, they all have their devoted fanbases and all offer shitty lines now. [01:08]
BingoBoingo mike_c: She played venus the other day? [01:08]
nubbins` mike_c the grue ate everyone's coin D; [01:08]
mike_c yeah, went to third set [01:08]
BingoBoingo Line must not have been good enough for me to get pinged [01:09]
mike_c nubbins`: should be havelock's tagline :) [01:09]
BingoBoingo Oh,, Venus won [01:09]
mike_c "Venus topped Serena 6-7 (2), 6-2, 6-3 on Saturday in the hard-court event for her first victory over her sister since 2009 in Dubai." [01:09]
nubbins` you know how many goddamn bitcoin i "made" and subsequently "lost" on that fuckin site? [01:09]
nubbins` it'd make ya weep [01:09]
* kdomanski__ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:10]
jborkl BingoBoingo , ok i added the proper credit there [01:11]
nubbins` "People can administer this drug fairly unknowingly to someone — an unknowing person — and we've had reports in the past, not so much of ketamine, but we have had reports in the past of these typos of drugs being administered in local establishments," said Curnew. [01:12]
nubbins` ^ amazing [01:12]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [01:12]
nubbins` "these typos of drugs" [01:12]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [01:12]
* Sebastan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [01:12]
* darlidada (~Decima`@unaffiliated/decima/x-7503346) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:12]
* kdomanski_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:13]
* pete_dushenski has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:15]
* jborkl has quit (Quit: jborkl) [01:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17756 @ 0.00074337 = 13.1993 BTC [+] [01:21]
* RagnarDanneskjol (~ragnardan@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:23]
* assbot gives voice to RagnarDanneskjol [01:24]
* pete_dushenski (~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:24]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell jborkl Lol, actual credit belongs to the cats [01:32]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:32]
penguirker New blog post: [01:35]
* SuchWow has quit (Quit: stupid windows updates) [01:36]
ben_vulpes "expert chumpatronic engineers" << quite. [01:37]
nubbins` "hello, i was just wondering if you have any positions available. thanks" [01:38]
nubbins` ^ second email we've gotten like this [01:38]
nubbins` ah, the earnest young [01:39]
* alex____2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:39]
ben_vulpes "position is work all day. pay is a bed in the corner and scraps from the table. interedast?" [01:39]
* jdanks1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:40]
ben_vulpes ;;8ball do i risk the rain biking back to the office from this client meeting? [01:41]
gribble The answer is a resounding no. [01:41]
ben_vulpes fu gribble [01:41]
ben_vulpes I'M FUCKING DOING IT [01:42]
ben_vulpes watch me get drenched [01:42]
* jdanks1 (~john@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:42]
BingoBoingo !up jdanks [01:43]
* assbot gives voice to jdanks [01:43]
BingoBoingo !up jdanks1 [01:43]
* assbot gives voice to jdanks1 [01:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 109 @ 0.01270359 = 1.3847 BTC [-] {4} [01:43]
* SuchWow (~SuchWow@unaffiliated/suchwow) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 144 @ 0.01253933 = 1.8057 BTC [+] {9} [01:45]
BingoBoingo mike_c: So are you still blogging something today about how they all suck then? [01:46]
* mius has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:46]
* mius_ (~mius@gateway/tor-sasl/mius) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:46]
* davout has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:48]
nubbins` ben_vulpes checked her out on facebook, studied "graphic design" at local college [01:48]
* davout_ (~davout@unaffiliated/davout) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:48]
nubbins` no thanks [01:48]
BingoBoingo FAA now involved in StL's Gaza moment: [01:49]
assbot /jasiri_x FAA restricts aviation over /hashtag/Ferguson? the reason. I found this on the Federal FAA website [01:49]
nubbins` wow. [01:51]
BingoBoingo [01:53]
assbot This /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash thing reminds me of /hashtag/Occupy?src=hash except peaceful protesters actually making /hashtag/TheMan?src=hash tremble with fear [01:53]
BingoBoingo I plan on staying on the Illinois side of the river for a while, shit is getting serious [01:54]
BingoBoingo [01:54]
assbot Amway Journalism | The Baffler [01:54]
* Quanttek_ is now known as Quanttek [01:54]
* zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:55]
nubbins` Personal Brand™ [01:59]
nubbins` shoot me in the face with a gun [01:59]
* praeconium (~praeconiu@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:59]
nubbins` i've seen people ask for advice on how to develop their personal brand [01:59]
nubbins` they didn't capitalize it, but you can tell they were doing it in their heads when they wrote it [01:59]
nubbins` nothing reeks more of desperation [02:00]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Building a personal brand is an excellent advice but these fuckers do it all wrong. Step 1: Call People fuckers Step 2: Get drunk and Markov chain rant a bit... etc [02:00]
nubbins` step 3, join this chan and vanish into the babble ;D [02:01]
BingoBoingo !b 5 [02:02]
assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [02:02]
* jdanks1 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [02:02]
ben_vulpes lol ssl php === [02:04]
BingoBoingo At least it looks like Libressl portable is making a lot of progess [02:06]
BingoBoingo Even if the ssl premise is bork'd [02:06]
BingoBoingo "Remove disabled (weakened export and non-ephemeral DH) cipher suites from the cipher list. This reduces code size, saves data segment space and prevents them from being turned back on at runtime by flipping a bit in memory." [02:07]
* OX3_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:07]
* jdanks1 (~john@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:10]
* assbot removes voice from jdanks [02:13]
BingoBoingo %d [02:16]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 1878190.93 in 2010 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: 0.00 [02:16]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [02:16]
BingoBoingo Seems given these long block times... Atc is on a long walk to the next diff drop [02:16]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: the twitter will get the fro when the right picture comes along :) [02:17]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: that bogotan graffiti! [02:18]
mike_c BingoBoingo: blog is more about bitcoin gambling.. perhaps focusing on WoL :) [02:18]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Cool [02:18]
* jdanks1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:19]
* AdrianoOliveira (~adriano@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:20]
assbot AdrianoOliveira +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [02:21]
BingoBoingo !up AdrianoOliveira [02:22]
* assbot gives voice to AdrianoOliveira [02:22]
BingoBoingo hello AdrianoOliveira [02:22]
mike_c it's getting long. perhaps i'll post as pdf and call it a book. [02:22]
AdrianoOliveira hi BingoBoingo, thanks [02:22]
nubbins` pete_dushenski +1 [02:22]
nubbins` they close all the roads in dt bogota every sunday so people can ride bikes w/ their families [02:22]
nubbins` fun thing [02:22]
BingoBoingo mike_c: If you need someone to proofread your Latex file... [02:22]
BingoBoingo AdrianoOliveira: What brings you here? [02:23]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: and there's giant outdoor dance lessons in the middle of it all [02:24]
AdrianoOliveira Im was looking for info/people trading options on btc and ended up on [02:24]
pete_dushenski cyclo dia [02:24]
pete_dushenski or cyclovia or something [02:24]
nubbins` yah [02:24]
AdrianoOliveira although it doesn't seem to be the right place, i came to check the channel, as i have never been in the channel before [02:24]
* jdanks1 (~john@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:24]
pete_dushenski we rented some bikes, pretty bush league things but that's what there was [02:24]
nubbins` bike is king [02:25]
BingoBoingo AdrianoOliveira: Lurk a bit, you might learn something [02:25]
pete_dushenski $20/day and these bikes would've been left beside the dumpster in canada, untouched [02:25]
BingoBoingo AdrianoOliveira: This is a bit trading nexus, a bit social club [02:25]
pete_dushenski AdrianoOliveira: how did you hear about b-a? [02:25]
chetty [02:26]
BingoBoingo AdrianoOliveira: This kind of gives the gist of things [02:26]
assbot The forum and its implementation. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:26]
BingoBoingo Huge props to kakobrekla for making this humble channel many moons ago [02:26]
nubbins` that's expensive [02:26]
AdrianoOliveira pete_dushenski: I follow a link posted on a comment in one of the topics at bitcointalk [02:26]
nubbins` we rented rad bikes in amsterdam for i think 9 euro per day [02:27]
AdrianoOliveira pete_dushenski: one of the mpex, i think [02:27]
BingoBoingo Is there a link back to there we could follow? [02:27]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: well see amsterdam knows what to do with tourists [02:27]
nubbins` if only tourists knew what to do with bikes ;D [02:27]
AdrianoOliveira BingoBoingo: thanks for the advice, I am familiar with irc and I am usually at bitcoin-otc, just didn't know the bitcoin-assets :-) [02:28]
nubbins` but yeah, tourism in colombia is decades behind [02:28]
chetty AdrianoOliveira, its a good place to hang around and read and learn [02:28]
nubbins` you visit a picturesque small town to spend your money and have a good time and maybe bring friends with you next time [02:28]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: tis, but the customer service, particularly at the restaurants we went to, was out of this fucking world [02:28]
nubbins` you're just as likely to get robbed by a local who doesn't understand that he's shooting himself in the wallet [02:28]
BingoBoingo %t [02:28]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 195 Ask: 239 Last Price: 250 24h-Vol: 336k High: 250 Low: 190 VWAP: 216 [02:28]
pete_dushenski it was so goddam civilized it hurt [02:28]
pete_dushenski professional wait staff like that are unknown in canada [02:29]
nubbins` yup [02:29]
nubbins` i ruptured an eardrum in colombia [02:29]
* DreadKnight has quit (Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( )) [02:29]
pete_dushenski fairmont or whatever, they have no idea how to make you feel like a king. they're too educated, too "i'm equal" [02:29]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: oof [02:29]
nubbins` bad eustacian tubes, wanted to scuba dive, lied on the medical questionnaire [02:30]
mircea_popescu holy logs sherlock! [02:30]
nubbins` couldn't clear left ear, popped drum while trying, ear full of seawater [02:30]
nubbins` immediate nausea [02:30]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: dig deeper, watson! [02:30]
nubbins` still went down for the second dive ;( [02:30]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu:mike_c hey, how about a bitcoin mud platform ? << zork for bitcoin? the grue ate your coin? << more like a platform, so people can make their own muds but have some basic tools (btc payments, [blockchain based] random dungeon generator etc) [02:31]
mike_c sounds interesting, but doesn't sound profitable. [02:31]
mircea_popescu more of a culture sort of thing than a business sort of thing. [02:31]
BingoBoingo %tslb [02:32]
mike_c then it sounds like fun, which I don't have time for unfortunately. [02:32]
atcbot 4 minutes and 13 seconds [02:32]
BingoBoingo %d [02:33]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 1878190.93 in 2008 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: 0.00 [02:33]
mircea_popescu jus' puttin' it out there. [02:33]
mike_c i'm too busy writing my book [02:33]
mircea_popescu ahahaah [02:34]
* miaoux has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:35]
BingoBoingo My new friend here does MUDS he could probably do Bitcoin MUDS [02:35]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [02:35]
nubbins` mike_c paste a link to the pdf when you're done, yes? [02:36]
nubbins` also: you don't have time for fun? D: [02:36]
mike_c penguirker will find it. it's the b-a library of congress [02:36]
* miaoux ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:37]
* princessnell has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:37]
BingoBoingo I swear my first IRL bitcoin meetup might involve the next person who professes to have self published "The Book on Bitcoin" without the slightest familiarity with the Chicago Manual of style [02:38]
* praeconium has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:40]
BingoBoingo And correction [02:40]
assbot The Codeless Code: Case 134 Thin Ice [02:40]
mircea_popescu mike_c sexual congress i hope. [02:40]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: how so if you don't support basic news print ads? It's 2014 not 1014 << you know people can just upload their jpg and be done with it if they want,. [02:43]
nubbins` what in the world is a jpg [02:45]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: That doesn't seem to be implemented yet... [02:45]
nubbins` answer: jotion picture (experts) group [02:45]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the idea being that you can dump whatever text/images you have/care to and van will sort out some kind of ad out of it. [02:46]
mircea_popescu if you just want to make specified banners, fine, do that. [02:46]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: it's a Jaguar-Panther-tiGer [02:46]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That's for others. I like the "Bold Text, Bold Claims" approach to ad buying myself [02:47]
pete_dushenski sort of a mystical beast, unknown anywhere but the most remote jungles of south asia [02:47]
mircea_popescu but anyway, the notion is to leave the whole "profession" of designers without employment. [02:47]
nubbins` try hiragino kaku gothic pro bold [02:48]
nubbins` beauty of a font [02:48]
mircea_popescu because if one ca'n't get paid "designiong" ads anymore, they can't get paid designing period. [02:48]
mircea_popescu so whatever, if it's successful nubbins` will love us for it. [02:48]
BingoBoingo lol [02:48]
mircea_popescu but if you;'re gonna be subversive, you gotta actually be subversive. [02:48]
nubbins` ^ [02:48]
* pete_dushenski has quit (Quit: pete_dushenski) [02:48]
nubbins` the more i work, the more i feel like the word "design" is a poor descriptor for what i do [02:49]
mircea_popescu so win-win then. [02:50]
mircea_popescu o look, already live and getting accolades ? [02:50]
nubbins` i blame all the "designers" [02:50]
BingoBoingo Killing the design industries, just another Tuesday [02:50]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:50]
nubbins` someone says "yeah i'm a graphic designer", i get my list ready and ask them what their full name is [02:50]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah, peterl is on that [02:50]
mircea_popescu nubbins` dude you're just not getting it. [02:51]
mircea_popescu you're supposed to call me a religious leader and complain of ad hominem [02:51]
nubbins` o o [02:51]
mircea_popescu THIS IS NOT HOW NORMAL DEBATES WORK [02:51]
nubbins` i thought we were all in agreement [02:51]
mircea_popescu ;;google kalvin clein nevertheless [02:52]
gribble Escape Calvin Klein perfume - a fragrance for women 1991: ; Polo Ralph Lauren Wholesale Free Shipping, 100% Original & Easy ...: ; Emerald Insight | The internationalization of the high fashion brand ...: (1 more message) [02:52]
* princessnell ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:52]
BingoBoingo Or is that someother sort of toad [02:52]
mircea_popescu it's a frog. [02:52]
mircea_popescu and google you suck. [02:52]
assbot kramer at calvin klein - YouTube [02:52]
* assbot removes voice from AdrianoOliveira [02:53]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, the thing I posted today is a toad, has warts [02:53]
BingoBoingo !up AdrianoOliveira [02:53]
* assbot gives voice to AdrianoOliveira [02:53]
nubbins` hypnotoad? he's a toad [02:53]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Wait not all toads hypno? [02:53]
mircea_popescu i guess i don't know my amphibians. [02:53]
asciilifeform ;;google hypnotoad [02:54]
gribble Hypnotoad - Futurama Wiki, the Futurama database: ; Everybody Loves Hypnotoad - YouTube: ; - ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!: [02:54]
asciilifeform ^ that one [02:54]
BingoBoingo If it was a frog that big, its legs would have been fired. Toad... not so much. [02:54]
BingoBoingo *fried [02:54]
mircea_popescu so for the ecologists still clinging on to the logs somehow : argentina heats on electricity, has no insulation and does not care. [02:55]
nubbins` take this poster, for example: [02:55]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [02:55]
nubbins` i'm proud of it, and the bands who paid for it thought it was great [02:55]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:55]
nubbins` but did i "design" it? [02:55]
mircea_popescu i have three holes in my wall about ten square inches total, wind blows through freely. i burned > 100kwh this month so far. they dun give a shit. thsi is normal here. [02:55]
nubbins` sure, in the sense that the sanitation engineer collected my trash this morning [02:55]
mircea_popescu nubbins` ideally van will be able to do that on its own [02:56]
nubbins` sure, it's just colors and shapes [02:56]
mircea_popescu eventually. once ben_vulpes figures out the basics of how to install servers and stuff [02:56]
nubbins` computers r hard [02:56]
mircea_popescu ;;google "it's easy if you know what you're doing" [02:57]
gribble No matches found. [02:57]
mircea_popescu orly. [02:57]
* asciilifeform 1100+ kWh (july) [02:57]
nubbins` funny, someone in -otc linked that site about 10 minutes ago [02:57]
mircea_popescu ;;seen organofcorti [02:57]
gribble organofcorti was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 years, 8 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, 6 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: Hey, does anyone know what the cost to reissue an expired bond is? [02:57]
mircea_popescu dude come back, we like your blog. [02:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ac or what ? [02:58]
nubbins` i'm in a rather enviable position, in that half the people i do work for just give me full artistic liberty [02:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ac, waterheater, doubleconvertingups [02:58]
mircea_popescu shit. i thought i was excessive but 1mwh ?! [02:58]
nubbins` i did a run of silkscreened posters yesterday and the client saw the design for the first time when he exchanged a wad of cash for them [02:59]
nubbins` i generally try not to brag about this around people who earn a living as "graphic designers" [02:59]
nubbins` their rage scares me [02:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ac is ~70% of it [02:59]
mircea_popescu mike_c: or, more to the point, say trilema was actually running an ad slot (hint hint). << i'd rather buy, honestly. [02:59]
mircea_popescu nubbins` isn't it great, having a free brag space ? [03:00]
nubbins` one of the reasons i come here [03:00]
mircea_popescu i thought you just liked the enchiladas. [03:00]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Any other year situation would be similar here with power, but having a "temperate" year [03:00]
nubbins` if by that you mean circular conversations, then YES :D [03:00]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: very 'temperate' year here, as well. [03:01]
* darlidada has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:01]
BingoBoingo "Polar Vortex" was unkind this winter but welcome now [03:01]
mircea_popescu mike_c: you're probably already smoking it. you need to have a valuable audience. << the proposition that tardstalk has a valuable audience is outrageous. [03:01]
BingoBoingo Several weeks with AC off and windows open [03:01]
mike_c hehe. somebody's got buy all those miners. [03:01]
BingoBoingo Which would normally never happen in July [03:02]
mircea_popescu mike_c it's more like, van is a piggy bank. if i start pulling money out rather than pushing money in it'll prolly debalance it. [03:02]
* asciilifeform has no solid clue who reads his site, other than a multitude of trilema readers [03:02]
mircea_popescu not so different from atc really. [03:02]
mike_c so take all the revenue and use it buy ads. [03:02]
nubbins` asciilifeform time for a poll ;D [03:03]
mircea_popescu i don't net buy or net sell based on what i want, but based on what everyone else is doing [03:03]
nubbins` [03:03]
nubbins` HAHAHAHAHA [03:03]
* mircea_popescu is suspicious of distortion but definitely more thinking will go int this [03:03]
mike_c pulling out/pushing in implies a closed system. [03:04]
mircea_popescu how is it open ? [03:04]
mike_c including a trilema ad slot could increase the supply in general and rise all boats. [03:04]
mike_c it's open cuz anyone can buy ads [03:04]
mircea_popescu this will definitely need some moar thinking. [03:05]
mike_c trilema slot would increase awareness of vanads and bring more advertisers? [03:05]
mike_c which could benefit all venues [03:05]
* princessnell has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:05]
mike_c who wouldn't want to fill trilema's slot? [03:05]
mike_c hehehe [03:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: i'm open to it, so long as serious money and i don't have to promise any kind of detectable result to anyone. << van is kinda tailored for that last part, at least. [03:06]
mircea_popescu mike_c one of the things i did was have ppls prepare code so i can show ads to non-cookied users only. [03:06]
mircea_popescu amazingly, this can actually be done. [03:06]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [03:06]
* asciilifeform prepares for spam school [03:06]
mike_c amazingly? perhaps for a php dev. seems easy. [03:06]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [03:06]
mircea_popescu mike_c gotta appreciate trilema runs a custom string of hacks off 6 yo wp [03:07]
* asciilifeform isn't sure who is crazy enough to buy ad on his site, however [03:07]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Just post cats, google images will send traffic [03:07]
mike_c ah ascii, i can see you are beings sucked in. join the crowd! peer pressure! [03:07]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i get a ludicrous amount of traffic from google images [03:07]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: More than actual google, right? [03:08]
asciilifeform [03:08]
assbot lisp machine - Google Search [03:08]
asciilifeform 6 or 7 - mine... [03:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: i confess i'm somewhat suspicious of anything which suggests to 'monetize' my site, which is more or less the polar inverse of 'monetizable' in the usual sense. << in fairness, i don't believe 90%+ of the derpage emitted by "advertising industry" in any way applies to van stuff. [03:08]
mircea_popescu "monetizing" a fine example among it. [03:09]
asciilifeform [03:09]
assbot hypercard - Google Search [03:09]
asciilifeform ^ 4 or 5 [03:09]
BingoBoingo ;;google noise canceling toad [03:09]
gribble #002 - Honda Accord insulation to cut down road noise. - YouTube: ; Noise pollution - Property Law: ; Quiet, Please! How to Cut Noise Pollution at Home - Houzz: [03:09]
mike_c hm, derpage aside, the point of advertising is to make money. [03:09]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell thickasthieves look at this you [03:09]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:09]
assbot Altcoin (ATC) price, charts, and info | Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations [03:09]
mircea_popescu re rich now. [03:10]
* princessnell ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:10]
mircea_popescu mike_c is the point of fucking to make money ? [03:10]
mike_c for some people. not me though. [03:10]
mircea_popescu right. [03:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i don't believe 90%+ of the derpage emitted by "advertising industry" << precisely this. as i understand, cargo cult. [03:11]
mircea_popescu if advertising is to survive, it'll have to invent itself as something else than medieval "fuck so wife makes more peons which make more koku" [03:11]
mike_c wtf else is there? [03:11]
mike_c for advertising. [03:11]
mircea_popescu that's not a valid objection. [03:11]
mircea_popescu (also known as appeal to ignorance) [03:12]
mike_c ok. then this: what use does vanads present other than to help advertisers make money? [03:12]
mircea_popescu i have no idea if it helps them make money or not, but it allows them to get places they wouldn't get otherwise. [03:12]
mircea_popescu more like the wot than like the btc. [03:12]
mircea_popescu not that the two are divorced or orthogonal or anything. [03:12]
mircea_popescu to get back to fucking, ever left money on the nightstand of a woman that ~wasn't~ a whore ? [03:13]
mike_c not directly. indirectly? every one. [03:13]
mircea_popescu right-o. [03:13]
mircea_popescu that said, i have nfi. we're mostly guessing here. [03:13]
mircea_popescu all across the board that is. [03:14]
mike_c your analogy sucks. [03:14]
mircea_popescu ty. [03:14]
BingoBoingo to get back to fucking, ever left money on the nightstand of a woman that ~wasn't~ a whore ? << SUre, I wanted cigarettes when I came to [03:14]
nubbins` "the average canadian spends more on taxes than on food, shelter and clothing combined" [03:14]
nubbins` :0 [03:14]
mircea_popescu nubbins` does the average canadian also get more food, shelter and clothing from the government than he gets on his own dime ? [03:14]
* princessnell has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:15]
nubbins` as an above-average canadian, i cannot say with any degree of certainty [03:15]
mircea_popescu well yea you get moose sausage and whatnot. [03:15]
nubbins` gotta pay for the moose license [03:15]
nubbins` well. someone does [03:15]
nubbins` all i gotta pay for is casings [03:16]
mircea_popescu mike_c your adhominem religious leadership aside, this whole discussion dovetails neatly into the converse, ascii's curiosity as to why am i giving bitdimes to random sluts. [03:17]
mircea_popescu well... there's apparently reasons. have i made money ? [03:17]
nubbins` "According to the Vancouver-based think-tank, the average Canadian family earned $77,381 in 2013 and paid $32,369 in total taxes — or 41.8 per cent of income — compared with 36.1 per cent for food, shelter and clothing combined." [03:17]
mike_c not yet. that's different from simply no. [03:17]
mircea_popescu have i made money supporting openbsd ? [03:17]
mike_c yes [03:18]
mike_c although accidentally [03:18]
nubbins` heh. [03:18]
nubbins` got ya on a technicality [03:18]
mircea_popescu the fact that when openssl got shot in the head there was someone there to pick the pieces... [03:18]
mircea_popescu i mean, reality being complex, evaluating how you make money becomes untrivial. [03:18]
mircea_popescu as wall street finds out every sixteen months. [03:18]
mike_c sure. ads increase awareness way beyond CTR. [03:18]
mircea_popescu ads also allow people to live. [03:18]
asciilifeform evaluating how you make money becomes untrivial >> for us peons it's pretty easy though [03:18]
mircea_popescu some people you might depend on. [03:19]
mircea_popescu i played solforge, some card trading game, and as for the past 500 games i played for more than 2 hours, i paid them something [03:19]
* yamaka has quit (Quit: yamaka) [03:19]
mircea_popescu ten or fiddy or i don't remember. [03:19]
nubbins` can't have nice things if you don't want to pay for them [03:19]
nubbins` get this: i buy music :0 [03:20]
mircea_popescu maybe this doesn't make me any money, or maybe this is the last thing that keeps playable games available which is what keeps me from killing andreas for realz. [03:20]
mike_c ok, but vanads as tipbox.. idk. ascii won't join for 5 doge. [03:20]
mircea_popescu it's not the argument. [03:20]
mircea_popescu from the position of the ad buyer, i was more than once confronted with endless lists of "venues" to buy space on. [03:21]
mircea_popescu what did i buy on ? i couldn't care less about the "numbers" [03:21]
mircea_popescu numbers can and universally are faked. [03:21]
mircea_popescu i bought on oglaf and other respectable comics. why ? [03:21]
mircea_popescu well... specifically because they were respectable. [03:21]
mircea_popescu and the thought in my head was "i'd buy the whole book, if i had a guarantee your book is all respectable folk, no mfa, no shit. no torrents w/e" [03:22]
* princessnell ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:22]
mircea_popescu so my rationale is, make a place which actually only lists legitimate venues, people won't have the problem i had anymore. [03:22]
asciilifeform re: tips: phun phact. my largest donor, a fellow claiming to be zooko wilcox-ohearn (of the 'zooko's triangle.') [03:22]
asciilifeform ^ [03:22]
assbot Loper OS » On the fact that Bitcoin has a Kill Switch; and how to disconnect it. [03:22]
mircea_popescu may have other problems, sure. generally we don't see th eproblems we don't have anymore. like in this oglaf comic : [03:22]
* assbot removes voice from AdrianoOliveira [03:23]
asciilifeform ^ 1.0101101 [03:23]
mircea_popescu [03:23]
assbot Chronotherapy [03:23]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's pretty cool. [03:24]
asciilifeform 0b10101101 == 173 -> ascii '{' [03:24]
asciilifeform no idea what this symbolizes. [03:24]
mike_c i dunno. luckily we don't have to come to agreement because we will see what happens. i do agree it is something worth trying. [03:24]
BingoBoingo And this is why Batman beats Superman, he solves problems Superman can't afford to know exist. [03:25]
mircea_popescu that's not really how it works sadly. we'll have to argue it whether it succeeds or fails [03:26]
mike_c but we'll have more evidence to argue with [03:26]
mircea_popescu because the argument of why it did either can't be put to rest by the mere observation that it did it. [03:26]
mircea_popescu that's fo sho. [03:26]
* princessnell has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:26]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:27]
mircea_popescu for the admittedly slanted view from my tower however, i can definitely say that i would trade a billion visitors from twitter for a thousand visitors fro whatever, [03:27]
mircea_popescu zooko's blog. [03:27]
mircea_popescu i guess at the basest, anticonsumerism consists on making businesses not dependant on consumers and the govt dole that supports them. [03:28]
mircea_popescu taleb'd call this antifragile businesses. [03:28]
asciilifeform !s charity trilema [03:28]
assbot 1 results for 'charity trilema' : [03:28]
mircea_popescu related, but quite distinct. [03:28]
asciilifeform how distinct? [03:32]
mircea_popescu about on the degree of the distinction between going for a play and going to the doctor. [03:32]
mircea_popescu they're both professional venues where experts do something to your benefit. [03:33]
asciilifeform anticonsumerism consists on making businesses not dependant on consumers >> the old, essentially bulletproof explanation for death of art and science. [03:33]
mircea_popescu quite. [03:33]
* PowerGorilla (~a@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:34]
* CoalPowerGorilla has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:34]
BingoBoingo [03:35]
assbot The /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash police look more militarized now than the actual National Guard, here from the 1967 Newark riots: [03:35]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nice little preview of usa when 'the holiday' comes. [03:38]
asciilifeform [03:39]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [03:39]
asciilifeform ^ also related [03:41]
assbot ClubOrlov: The Rationale behind the Boston Psy-ops [03:41]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I think Fergeson is the application of the Boston lessons. [03:42]
BingoBoingo Still I plan on keeping to Illinois this weekend. [03:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform since you linked dja know what stotting is ? [03:44]
assbot Loper OS » Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope. [03:44]
asciilifeform certainly [03:44]
* princessnell ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:44]
BingoBoingo Fergeson is in North county, but West and South County have had riots as well [03:44]
asciilifeform also known as 'peacocking' [03:44]
mircea_popescu there';s no need for fiddy billion people to be smart. [03:44]
* AdrianoOliveira (~adriano@ has left #bitcoin-assets [03:44]
mircea_popescu fiddy billion people can be anything they want. all it takes is one. [03:44]
asciilifeform the N - 1 neolithic folks who didn't discover fire, yes. [03:45]
*hanbot* new ip old ip por favorh! [03:46]
mircea_popescu mike_c: BingoBoingo: bah, nvmnd, sorry. they all suck. <. [03:47]
kyuupichan ;;nethash [03:51]
gribble 180239894.005 [03:51]
* asciilifeform wrote 'nails' piece when he thought the 50b matter [03:52]
* ADutchGamer has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:53]
* peterl ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:53]
* TheNewDeal (18748681@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:53]
BingoBoingo !up peterl [03:56]
* assbot gives voice to peterl [03:56]
BingoBoingo !up the20year [03:56]
* assbot gives voice to the20year [03:56]
BingoBoingo !up TheNewDeal [03:56]
* assbot gives voice to TheNewDeal [03:56]
peterl !up [03:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: presently you can do a kind of basic 'iq filter' just by, e.g. ignoring anything whatsoever distributed as an ms-word turd << ya think ?! :D [03:56]
asciilifeform it's only a very basic filter. [03:56]
* assbot gives voice to peterl [03:56]
* assbot gives voice to TheNewDeal [03:57]
mircea_popescu BigBitz: such irony. << they deserve it for using lastpass, srsly. [03:58]
mircea_popescu the idiocy of it knows no bounds. [03:58]
BingoBoingo peterl: Nice work [03:59]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: seven nekkid gals reading the news in seven different languages at the same time > F5 << omfg you haxt my cameras ?! [04:00]
kakobrekla i dont have a better explanation. [04:01]
* leochilll ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:01]
mircea_popescu pankkake: that's how you spot a tiny penis < [04:02]
mircea_popescu !up leochilll [04:02]
-assbot- You voiced leochilll for 30 minutes. [04:02]
* assbot gives voice to leochilll [04:02]
* Trix ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:02]
* trixisowned has quit (Disconnected by services) [04:03]
* Trix is now known as trixisowned [04:03]
mircea_popescu artifexd: <- some nice lessons teaching how crypto works, how to attack it, and how easy it is to screw it up << this is useful & interesting. [04:04]
assbot The Matasano Crypto Challenges [04:04]
* asciilifeform remembers the rsa key challenge and its quiet disappearance [04:04]
mircea_popescu yea what happened to that ? [04:05]
asciilifeform they pulled it. [04:05]
asciilifeform said only 'this isn't needed any more' [04:05]
mircea_popescu course some older readers may recall the phuctor and it's quiet quietness. not everything is a they. [04:05]
asciilifeform it's still there; hungry. [04:06]
mircea_popescu fluffypony lol not bad that guy. is he the real jeff jarvis ? :D [04:06]
BingoBoingo Nah [04:07]
BingoBoingo Real Jeff Jarvis comes in later all butthurt [04:08]
* princessnell has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [04:08]
[]bot Bet created: "Gold above $1300 on October 1st" [04:11]
mircea_popescu << this is a typically fuctarded article as one'd have come to expect out of the economist. [04:12]
assbot The Economist explains: Why the price of commercial sex is falling | The Economist [04:12]
mircea_popescu " Location matters too. Prostitutes in San Francisco, where the cost of living is high, charge more than those in cheaper cities such as Prague." [04:12]
mircea_popescu a) the idiots in san francisco were whining a month ago about how $10/sq foot is "outside of what a "normal" business can pay in rent" [04:13]
mircea_popescu prague is more expensive than that. [04:13]
TheNewDeal ridiculous bet [04:13]
TheNewDeal kitko is showing gold above 1300 RIGHT NOW [04:13]
mircea_popescu b) europeans are not fucktarded about sex like the us barbarians are. [04:13]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal it can drop can't it ? [04:13]
mircea_popescu "THE ECONOMIST has analysed 190,000 profiles of female sex workers on websites where customers post reviews. The data cover 84 cities in 12 countries, with the biggest number of workers in America and most of the rest in big cities in rich countries. According to our analysis, the price of an hour of sex with a female prostitute has been dropping fairly steadily in recent years. In 2006 the average cost was around $340 [04:13]
mircea_popescu . By 2014 it had dropped to about $260." [04:13]
TheNewDeal the bet doesn't say CLOSE [04:14]
mircea_popescu this is roughly the equivalent of scrapping seo blogs to get the average revenue of a seo expert. [04:14]
TheNewDeal price above at any point [04:14]
mircea_popescu let the permanent record permanently reflect the permanent fact that the economist is a piece of toilet paper upon which down syndrome patients scribble whatever shit happens through their head. [04:14]
leochilll aka the "subtle shill" per [04:15]
leochilll periodical [04:15]
mircea_popescu who might you be ? [04:15]
TheNewDeal ooooh I get this now [04:16]
BingoBoingo I dunno mircea_popescu you're being awfully harsh on downs syndrome patients comparing them to the economist [04:16]
leochilll just a bitcoin fan sick of the propaganda! [04:16]
mike_c TheNewDeal: how did you WoL bets go? [04:16]
TheNewDeal it's a european call style [04:16]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal exactly. [04:16]
TheNewDeal good of course [04:16]
mike_c glad to hear it [04:16]
peterl BingoBoingo: thanks, still working on it [04:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3200207 = 0.64 BTC [-] [04:19]
* Trix ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:19]
BingoBoingo peterl: Just a suggestion, you don't have to follow it, but make your own WP theme, keeps shit simpler [04:19]
* trixisowned has quit (Disconnected by services) [04:20]
* Trix is now known as trixisowned [04:20]
peterl yeah, I just grabbed one to get started, I am planning on rewriting most of it as I go [04:20]
BingoBoingo peterl: "Toolbox" is a decent blank slate to shape to your whims [04:21]
* Graet has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3210001 = 0.642 BTC [+] [04:23]
* davidlatapie ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:24]
TheNewDeal just curious - why did the URO bet get cancelled. Shitty resolution resource? [04:25]
BingoBoingo Prolly jsut shitty thing to bet on [04:25]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal shitty coin. people wanna advertise on bitbet, might as well either outright buy it or else put some money down. [04:25]
mircea_popescu im not paying people shareholder $$$ to advertise their dog's vomit. [04:25]
TheNewDeal but then why accept the bet? [04:26]
mircea_popescu noob mod. [04:26]
TheNewDeal gotcha [04:26]
TheNewDeal I couldn't care less about URO, hadn't heard of it until the bet. [04:26]
TheNewDeal Would rather go by kilos of piss on the street - will be worth more tomorrow [04:26]
* PowerGorilla has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:26]
* Graet (~Graet@unaffiliated/graet) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19282 @ 0.00073975 = 14.2639 BTC [-] [04:28]
* Tirapon has quit (Quit: Page closed) [04:29]
* princessnell ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:30]
BingoBoingo !Up Graet [04:30]
* assbot gives voice to Graet [04:30]
BingoBoingo !up princessnell [04:30]
* assbot gives voice to princessnell [04:30]
* assbot removes voice from leochilll [04:32]
* CoalPowerGorilla (~a@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00073975 = 4.2166 BTC [-] [04:33]
* chax_ (~chax@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:41]
ben_vulpes eventually. once ben_vulpes figures out the basics of how to install servers and stuff << i've got the basics down pretty well. sifting through the midden without bringing the whole heap down on oneself is far beyond basics. [04:45]
mircea_popescu one day i'll figure out the basics of being nice. [04:46]
* chax_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:47]
ben_vulpes "i could but fuck it"? [04:47]
mircea_popescu s/it/her/ [04:48]
* Quanttek has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:48]
BingoBoingo mike_c: How comes your book? [04:49]
mike_c working on illustrations [04:49]
BingoBoingo Sweet [04:49]
* pleego has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:49]
mircea_popescu can it has tits ? [04:49]
* Poffertje has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:50]
* princessnell has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:50]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform, mike_c, mircea_popescu: seems like there's some demand for an ad slot that's invisible unless paid for with a venue-specified minimum bid per day. [04:51]
* princessnell ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:51]
mircea_popescu owner can just put a bid. [04:51]
mircea_popescu no need for code. [04:51]
BingoBoingo ^ that [04:51]
ben_vulpes ho [04:51]
B51Num1 bats_cd03 Belsage ben_vulpes bertani bettycla1p bgupta BigBitz BingoBoingo bitcoinhtx bitspill Blazedout419 blg bounce [04:52]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: What evidence suggests that... [04:52]
mike_c yeah, i'm not demanding that. [04:52]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes welcome to the empire of good design, where most customer requests get a "no need for new code, you're doing it wrong" from management. [04:52]
mircea_popescu i hear it's a thing to behold. [04:52]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [04:52]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [04:52]
ben_vulpes thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i don't believe 90%+ of the derpage emitted by "advertising industry" << precisely this. as i understand, cargo cult. [04:53]
BingoBoingo TimSwanson: I know reading is hard in caves in Romania << Where is dude's intel department? [04:55]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell TimSwanson Hello Sorry I was too drunk last night and passed out before we could meet [04:56]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:56]
assbot Malpidity | Bingo Blog [04:56]
mircea_popescu actually romania has an extensive network of caves and carstic phenomena. [04:56]
mircea_popescu it's like florida only walkable. [04:57]
BingoBoingo Missouri has a lot of Karst geology as well. Most pictures of "Nature" in Romania remind me of the Ozarks [04:57]
mircea_popescu karstic* [04:57]
mircea_popescu yeah just about, same geology [04:57]
BingoBoingo Lots of water raping a lot of limestone [04:58]
BingoBoingo TimSwanson: You said I was a "environmental scholar" << You are whether you admit it or not. [04:58]
* yamaka (~yamaka@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:58]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:59]
mircea_popescu no actually he's a highschool english teacher [04:59]
mircea_popescu or w/e tefl qualifies you for. [05:00]
BingoBoingo [05:00]
assbot The Thumbs « Michael W Lucas [05:00]
mircea_popescu the environment derp is a different tim swanson [05:00]
* asciilifeform just unpacked a small lathe, that was wrapped in perhaps 100 metres of... sandwich wrap. [05:00]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, this Tim Swanson is totally an environmental derp, but English is a sloppy language. [05:01]
* assbot removes voice from Graet [05:01]
* asciilifeform could only think 'alien cocoon' [05:01]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: for example "TimSwanson: I work doing market research for Bitcoin companies" << He studies mosses and Lichen [05:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what if one of these days you'll unwrap a gift to find a weird egg or somesuch [05:01]
asciilifeform lol [05:01]
asciilifeform ;;google hans rickheit [05:02]
gribble Hans Rickheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Chrome Fetus - The Comix of Hans Rickheit: ; CHLOE by Hans RIckheit - Ectopiary: [05:02]
asciilifeform [05:02]
assbot hans rickheit - Google Search [05:02]
mircea_popescu [05:03]
assbot Anonymous wifi the latest casualty of Russia net neurosis The Register [05:03]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: << Definitely established as a lie [05:04]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [05:04]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i say one thing, derp reads what's preloaded in his stupid head. then i say "you're too stupid to understand what's being said", derp figures i'm "attacking" him. [05:05]
mircea_popescu too bad so sad etc. [05:05]
BingoBoingo This Swanson dicklick makes me want to stay pseudonymous forever, with my real name still an open secret among all WoTty people who care to ask. Just so silly onomatapeia can be more real then Tim, the San Fransisco Man [05:06]
penguirker New blog post: [05:07]
mircea_popescu congrats to fluffypony FabianB dignork mthreat justusranvier [05:08]
asciilifeform Morloch << a moloch worshipped by morlocks? [05:10]
* princessnell has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [05:10]
mircea_popescu lol i guess so. [05:10]
mike_c kakobrekla doesn't have a single negative rating. what a nice guy. [05:13]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform footnoted. [05:14]
kakobrekla yeah well pirate didnt either [05:14]
mircea_popescu mike_c he gets banned a lot. [05:14]
mike_c that is true. i guess he only pisses off people that don't matter [05:14]
mircea_popescu or pisses them off enough they can't remember their passwords [05:14]
BingoBoingo The Best Trilema [05:14]
assbot Arta pedepsirii pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:14]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you understand that ? [05:15]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah. [05:15]
mircea_popescu your romanian is impressive by now. [05:15]
BingoBoingo Enough for and English speaker [05:15]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, my romanian is shit. I can't speak it and barely translate it. My reading though is improving. [05:16]
mircea_popescu if you can actually read trilema you're above about a third of native speakers. [05:16]
BingoBoingo I doubt I could read much non-Trilema romanian though. [05:17]
BingoBoingo Basically for a Trilema I map the grammer and then dictionary the words [05:18]
mircea_popescu this is how one comprehends a text. [05:18]
mircea_popescu it's what i have the slavegirls do when in doubt. [05:18]
BingoBoingo Then again not many English speakers have done better with post switch trilema compared to pre-switch have they? [05:19]
BingoBoingo this is how one comprehends a text. << Rarely taught in US. Surprised classmates when in Spinoza class I told them my secret weapon was posterboard for mapping things to other things. [05:19]
* peterl has quit (Quit: peterl) [05:19]
BingoBoingo But how else does one do geometry of a medium more portable than a chalkboard? [05:20]
mircea_popescu it was taught just about a thousand years ago in teh monasteries. [05:20]
BingoBoingo But secular humanist emoting!!! Old is bad, new is mestraul painting. Don't worry about OSHA no helmet required. [05:21]
* trixisowned is now known as IbnBattuta [05:21]
* peterl ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [05:22]
BingoBoingo !up peterl [05:22]
* assbot gives voice to peterl [05:22]
* assbot gives voice to peterl [05:23]
BingoBoingo When I tried philosophy grad school everyone got in pissing matches over who read Whitehead or Russel, but how many other gave a shot at their Principia they did together? 0 [05:23]
mircea_popescu hence "impudent cocklets" [05:24]
BingoBoingo Because apparently Logos is the least important area of Philosophy [05:24]
BingoBoingo I mean if you are making love to knowledge Logos is basically the tits [05:24]
* princessnell ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [05:26]
mircea_popescu [05:26]
assbot Bleichenbacher's e=3 RSA Attack [05:26]
mircea_popescu ahh this is so sweet. [05:27]
mircea_popescu in other words, "find anyone implementing e=3 pseudocrypto and fire them" [05:27]
copumpkin that's how the first iphone unlock worked [05:27]
ben_vulpes !s old time [05:28]
assbot 65 results for 'old time' : [05:28]
mircea_popescu copumpkin exactly. [05:28]
ben_vulpes !s rosenfeld [05:29]
assbot 17 results for 'rosenfeld' : [05:29]
BingoBoingo As far as the teaching Assistant part of being a grad student goes going from freshman logic to babysitting pharm students was a godsend. The latter FEARED the material they were studying. [05:29]
mircea_popescu nothing beats material that can punch you in the gut. [05:30]
mircea_popescu also sweet. [05:31]
assbot DSA nonce recovery from repeated nonce [05:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3199838 = 0.96 BTC [-] [05:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00073906 = 9.46 BTC [-] {2} [05:34]
* jdanks1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [05:38]
kakobrekla !up danielpbarron [05:39]
* assbot gives voice to danielpbarron [05:39]
kakobrekla a ok [05:40]
kakobrekla i just got the other message. [05:40]
mike_c BingoBoingo: be the amazing! [05:40]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [05:40]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Lol, you noticed [05:40]
mike_c publishing my novel [05:40]
mircea_popescu i thought it was a book [05:41]
mircea_popescu IS IT ALSO A NOVEL!?!? [05:41]
mike_c hm. novels are fiction, right? i guess not. [05:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 46 @ 0.01180153 = 0.5429 BTC [-] {4} [05:44]
BingoBoingo ;;later tellTimSwanson I don't have to be a Bitcoin Taliban to understand how it works << Actually the model is more like ISIS [05:45]
gribble Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "tellTimSwanson" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. [05:45]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell TimSwanson I don't have to be a Bitcoin Taliban to understand how it works << Actually the model is more like ISIS [05:45]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:45]
* decimation (~decimatio@unaffiliated/decimation) has joined #bitcoin-assets [05:46]
* mikaeldice has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [05:48]
BingoBoingo if you can actually read trilema you're above about a third of native speakers. << You know on this point alone if Silicon Valley really cared about BTC they'd be wining and dinign me by nao [05:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28145 @ 0.00074229 = 20.8918 BTC [+] {2} [05:49]
asciilifeform e=3 >> this is a schoolboy mistake - even schneier's red book as i recall warned against it [05:50]
BingoBoingo [05:52]
assbot Police Officer Caught On Video Calling Michael Brown Protesters 'F***ing Animals' [05:52]
BingoBoingo [05:53]
assbot Surreal Video, Images Out of Ferguson as Unrest Resumes Following Shooting of Unarmed Teen: I Cant Believe This Is Happening | Video | [05:53]
BingoBoingo [05:53]
assbot Twitter / jasonplusone: "@BigBoi: Wow ! This cop points ... [05:53]
BingoBoingo "@BigBoi: Wow ! This cop points his AR at an unarmed ward Alderman. RT @AntonioFrench: #Ferguson " #MartialLaw [05:54]
assbot Right now in #Ferguson [05:54]
BingoBoingo %t [05:55]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 195 Ask: 239 Last Price: 250 24h-Vol: 336k High: 250 Low: 190 VWAP: 216 [05:55]
mike_c i don't know about you guys, but my blog posts are done when i can't stand to look at them anymore. [05:58]
asciilifeform same [05:58]
BingoBoingo mike_c: It's like that for about 50% of mine [05:58]
* assbot gives voice to decimation [06:00]
penguirker New blog post: [06:00]
decimation re: swanson << his writings make sense if you assume he is ignorant of Gresham's law [06:00]
decimation and also lacking sense [06:02]
BingoBoingo decimation: That doesn't explain his ignorance of how to structure a document he is going to try to label a "book" [06:05]
BingoBoingo %d [06:06]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 1878190.93 in 2005 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: 0.00 [06:06]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [06:07]
gribble Current Blocks: 315356 | Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 | Next Difficulty In: 1155 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 21 hours, 59 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 24113710923.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.2207 [06:07]
decimation you see a book is a container that holds words that you vomit [06:08]
BingoBoingo decimation: Still, the container has a standard form. Toilets can have different looks, but are recognizable as toilets. [06:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00074076 = 11.9633 BTC [-] {2} [06:10]
* TheNewDeal has quit (Quit: - A hand crafted IRC client) [06:11]
mircea_popescu i don't know about you guys, but my blog posts are done when i can't stand to look at them anymore. << i take about half an hour. [06:11]
BingoBoingo I've spent anywhere from 30 minutes to a day and a half depending on the post. [06:12]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo not the frenc ones. [06:12]
decimation moldbug describes how all prices will be recalculated once the world passes from the dollar through the bitcoin-vortex [06:13]
* AndChat|679296 (~AndChat67@2607:fb90:500:71f4:6340:ba75:52d6:18d3) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:13]
decimation someone standing on the shore today sees only a ripple where that vortex will one day consume everything [06:13]
* mikaeldice (~mikaeldic@unaffiliated/mikaeldice) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:13]
asciilifeform decimation: the 'monetary restandardization' piece, yes [06:14]
* GNULinuxGuy has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:14]
mircea_popescu i wasn't aware curtis switched camps to pro-btc [06:14]
mircea_popescu when did that happen ? [06:14]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Honestly I often spend more time trying to make the stupid posts less stupid then say fuck it and hit publish [06:15]
decimation I'm riffing a bit, he was talking about gold mainly [06:15]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: he was never 'anti' in the usual sense, just very pessimistic [06:15]
decimation he did mention bitcoin at the end [06:15]
asciilifeform 'gasenwagen will come surely' [06:15]
mircea_popescu mmm. [06:15]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo never bother with the stupid. [06:15]
decimation [06:15]
assbot Unqualified Reservations: On monetary restandardization [06:15]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It's a work in progress [06:16]
decimation he thinks usg will stop bitcoin - I don't find that a very credible thesis. [06:16]
asciilifeform << continued here [06:16]
assbot Unqualified Reservations: Bitcoin is money, Bitcoin is a bubble [06:16]
* RagnarsBitch has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [06:16]
decimation I just mentally edit his posts with s//gold/bitcoin/ [06:17]
asciilifeform he thinks usg << could've, too, if the hearts had bled on schedule. bullet whistled by. [06:17]
BingoBoingo ;;calc 364/12 [06:17]
gribble 30.3333333333 [06:17]
BingoBoingo Eh a month to walk to Mexico sounds right [06:18]
decimation "On the dollar's last day as a meaningful unit of account, total dollar net worth is at its historical peak. ... Best of all, unlike, this boom is sustainable. Ideally, it terminates in an allocated BITCOIN standard with no debt - the American and European economies at present, of course, being brutally overcapitalized. " [06:19]
* peterl has quit (Quit: peterl) [06:21]
decimation THis is another mistake swanson makes. THe idea that transactions are so costly in dollar terms is quite irrelvant to bitcoin holders. [06:21]
decimation becuase once the world has passed through the bitcoin vortex, all prices will be recalculated - and there's no formula to get from here to there [06:22]
* mikaeldice has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [06:22]
* mikaeldice (~mikaeldic@unaffiliated/mikaeldice) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:22]
BingoBoingo decimation: Well, in the San Francisco world of Bitcoin ATM's transactions actually do cost $40 or $50 above spot [06:29]
* princessnell has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:31]
* mikaeldice has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:34]
* mikaeldice (~mikaeldic@unaffiliated/mikaeldice) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:35]
decimation somehow the fact that bitgo and xapo have raised money means that bitcoin is expensive to secure [06:37]
BingoBoingo Nah, it means there's people with too much fiat who can't be arsed to secure it themselves yet [06:39]
* zoinky has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [06:40]
* stormlight has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:41]
decimation man I thought mircea was hard on the guy but after reading a few pages of the book he deserves worse [06:42]
* stormlight ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:42]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:43]
BingoBoingo decimation: I toldl you. [06:44]
BingoBoingo Also the fucking page numbering, lack of citation style, etc [06:45]
* stormlight has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [06:47]
decimation I'm trying to figure out what his angle is. What rich prince (perhaps in his mind) wants poorly-written anti-bitcoin pablum? [06:47]
BingoBoingo decimation: Well... To be determined [06:48]
mircea_popescu I just mentally edit his posts with s//gold/bitcoin/ << that's a way to go about it. prolly would have made hitler quite palatable too [06:55]
mircea_popescu s/jews/racists [06:55]
* nam-shub ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:55]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron i wouldn't bother. [06:55]
danielpbarron k [06:56]
mircea_popescu decimation> man I thought mircea was hard on the guy but after reading a few pages of the book he deserves worse << and importantly, i read no pages of the book. [06:57]
mircea_popescu this heuristic must be valuable. [06:57]
decimation deciding what not to spend mental cycles on is a valuable skill [07:01]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [07:04]
* RagnarsBitch ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:09]
* RagnarsBitch is now known as Guest18935 [07:09]
mircea_popescu "The Pioneer has before declared that our only safety depends upon the total extirmination of the Indians. Having wronged them for centuries, we had better, in order to protect our civilization, follow it up by one more wrong and wipe these untamed and untamable creatures from the face of the earth." [07:11]
mircea_popescu l f baum (wizard of oz), cca 1890. [07:11]
* AndChat|679296 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:12]
* TarvosTrigaranus is now known as Lycerion [07:14]
decimation we did worse - we made them depend on the bezzle for welfare - now most of them exist in a drunken half-stupor [07:14]
nubbins` ;;google beothuk [07:16]
gribble Beothuk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Beothuk - Newfoundland and Labrador Heritage: ; Beothuk - First Nations|Issues of Consequence: [07:16]
* stormlight ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:16]
mircea_popescu dickshovel ?! [07:18]
nubbins` maybe Dick's Hovel? [07:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00074164 = 2.1878 BTC [+] [07:19]
* smidge ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:19]
nubbins` [07:19]
assbot Why [07:19]
nubbins` hahahah [07:19]
* nam-shub has quit () [07:20]
asciilifeform expertSexchange. [07:20]
asciilifeform therapist/theRapist, etc. [07:21]
mircea_popescu For Mencken, Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was the finest work of American literature. Much of that book relates how gullible and ignorant country "boobs" (as Mencken referred to them) are swindled by confidence men like the (deliberately) pathetic "Duke" and "Dauphin" roustabouts with whom Huck and Jim travel down the Mississippi River. These scam-artists swindle by posing as enlightened speakers on temperance (to ob [07:26]
mircea_popescu tain the funds to get roaring drunk), as pious "saved" men seeking funds for far off evangelistic missions (to pirates on the high seas, no less), and as learned doctors of phrenology (who can barely spell). Mencken read the novel as a story of America's hilarious dark side, a place where democracy, as defined by Mencken, is "the worship of jackals by jackasses". [07:26]
mircea_popescu such change wow progress. [07:26]
* HeySteve ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:26]
* HeySteve has quit (Changing host) [07:26]
* HeySteve (HeySteve@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:26]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [07:29]
mircea_popescu "I admit freely enough that, by careful breeding, supervision of environment and education, extending over many generations, it might be possible to make an appreciable improvement in the stock of the American negro, for example, but I must maintain that this enterprise would be a ridiculous waste of energy, for there is a high-caste white stock ready at hand, and it is inconceivable that the negro stock, however caref [07:30]
mircea_popescu ully it might be nurtured, could ever even remotely approach it. The educated negro of today is a failure, not because he meets insuperable difficulties in life, but because he is a negro. He is, in brief, a low-caste man, to the manner born, and he will remain inert and inefficient until fifty generations of him have lived in civilization. And even then, the superior white race will be fifty generations ahead of him." [07:30]
mircea_popescu check out mencken being spectacularly wrong. [07:30]
mircea_popescu The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most [07:34]
mircea_popescu devious and mediocre—the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. [07:34]
mircea_popescu The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. [07:34]
mircea_popescu and then right. [07:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00073978 = 8.2116 BTC [-] [07:36]
* smidge has quit (Quit: sorry, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck...) [07:38]
* xanthyos ( has left #bitcoin-assets [07:40]
* xanthyos ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:40]
assbot xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [07:41]
mircea_popescu !up xanthyos [07:42]
-assbot- You voiced xanthyos for 30 minutes. [07:42]
* assbot gives voice to xanthyos [07:42]
* hanbot (~hanbot@unaffiliated/hanbot) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:42]
* assbot gives voice to hanbot [07:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.30003985 = 5.4007 BTC [-] {4} [07:45]
* Poffertje (~name@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:49]
* Poffertje has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:51]
assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 625 @ 0.00233 = 1.4563 BTC [+] [07:52]
* IbnBattuta is now known as trixisowned [07:52]
* trixisowned is now known as IbnBatutta [07:52]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:55]
mircea_popescu !up jctb [07:56]
-assbot- You voiced jctb for 30 minutes. [07:56]
* assbot gives voice to jctb [07:56]
* stormlight has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:58]
* stormlight ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:58]
* stormlight has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [08:03]
* stormlight ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:06]
* GNULinuxGuy (~lg@unaffiliated/gnulinuxguy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:11]
* assbot removes voice from xanthyos [08:12]
* mike_c has quit () [08:12]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:15]
* Guest18935 is now known as RagnarsBitch [08:26]
* assbot removes voice from jctb [08:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0007405 = 1.9994 BTC [+] [08:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6039 @ 0.00073978 = 4.4675 BTC [-] [08:38]
* Dimsler has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [08:40]
* donpillou has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [08:42]
kyuupichan Does anybody maintain a BTC market cap as % of all coin cap? I think it must be near a 2-year high. [08:43]
kyuupichan reckons it's 94.6% [08:46]
mircea_popescu alts have been getting crushed by altcoin alright. [08:49]
mircea_popescu tat's evil plan comes to fruition., [08:49]
* donpillou ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:52]
kyuupichan might be underpriced right now [08:52]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September :: 1.22 B (9%) on Yes, 11.62 B (91%) on No | closing in 1 week 6 days | weight: 51`309 (100`000 to 1) [08:52]
* jMyles has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [08:53]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [08:53]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 558.98, Best ask: 561.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.02000, Last trade: 561.0, 24 hour volume: 7189.81050835, 24 hour low: 556.5, 24 hour high: 572.35, 24 hour vwap: 0 [08:53]
mircea_popescu mebbe. [08:53]
mircea_popescu [08:55]
assbot The Shangri-Las -Leader Of The Pack Video with High Quality Sound - YouTube [08:55]
FabianB $mpexstatus [08:58]
mircea_popescu FabianB is worx atm. [09:00]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. [09:00]
empyex FabianB: Proxies: MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 [09:00]
mircea_popescu as well. [09:00]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. [09:00]
FabianB ic [09:01]
FabianB $proxies [09:01]
empyex FabianB: Temporarily saved. [09:01]
empyex FabianB: Proxies: MPEx-Status: 1672 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 [09:02]
mircea_popescu um no, don't do that, because well... suppose these two crap out. what'll people do then without the other two listed ? [09:02]
FabianB "03:10 #bitcoin-otc-ratings: <+gribble> New rating | assbot > 1 > fabianb | #bitcoin-assets" <- thanks assbot [09:02]
FabianB ok, let's reorder [09:03]
FabianB $proxies [09:03]
empyex FabianB: Temporarily saved. [09:03]
empyex FabianB: Proxies: MPEx-Status: 1675 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 [09:03]
mircea_popescu FabianB maybe make it so if one fails it tries the next ? [09:04]
FabianB good idea, will implement that later [09:05]
penguirker New blog post: [09:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00074051 = 8.8121 BTC [+] {2} [09:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.296 = 1.48 BTC [-] [09:23]
* HeySteve has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:24]
* stormlight has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:24]
* stormlight ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [09:25]
* HeySteve (HeySteve@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets [09:28]
* stormlight has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [09:29]
RagnarDanneskjol re- gambler's fallacy: [09:36]
assbot Live Arbing - Razerwares [09:36]
mircea_popescu ;;rated RagnarDanneskjol [09:37]
gribble You have not yet rated user RagnarDanneskjol [09:37]
mircea_popescu ;;rate RagnarDanneskjol 1 Recruiter. [09:37]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user RagnarDanneskjol has been recorded. [09:37]
RagnarDanneskjol oooh weee [09:37]
mircea_popescu :p [09:38]
xmj how do i see ratings between users? [09:40]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust mircea_popescu xmj [09:41]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user xmj: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Fri May 23 01:38:16 2014 [09:41]
xmj whois not authed? [09:41]
RagnarDanneskjol ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 bitcoin anti-christ. suck it roger v [09:42]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. [09:42]
punkman bonjorn [09:42]
punkman [09:48]
assbot Quote by Alan Moore: Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's ... [09:48]
* IbnBatutta is now known as trixisowned [09:53]
* nubbins` has quit (Quit: quit) [09:53]
mircea_popescu trixisowned you mean Abū ʿAbd al-Lāh Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd al-Lāh l-Lawātī ṭ-Ṭanǧī ibn Baṭūṭah [09:59]
* stoop (185a75d5@gateway/web/freenode/ip. has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:02]
* Anon29486307___ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:03]
mircea_popescu !up stoop [10:03]
-assbot- You voiced stoop for 30 minutes. [10:03]
* assbot gives voice to stoop [10:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2960006 = 0.592 BTC [+] [10:04]
* stoop_ (185a75d5@gateway/web/freenode/ip. has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:05]
* hanbot (~hanbot@unaffiliated/hanbot) has left #bitcoin-assets ("Leaving") [10:06]
* Anon29486307__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:06]
* stoop has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:07]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol that's a fine example of why one doesn't really want to offr live betting. [10:09]
mircea_popescu why attract a horde of internet "entrepreneurs" trying to do a lot of high bandwidth nonsense in their retarded quest of getting five euros off you "risk free" ? [10:10]
RagnarDanneskjol oh yea, recipe for disaster [10:10]
mircea_popescu if they just flipped burgers they'd make more per hour with less work, [10:11]
mircea_popescu but you can't talk sense into these overgrown children with their delusions of independence. [10:11]
fluffypony where's Kyle when you need someone for an abject lesson [10:12]
* Vexual (~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual) has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:12]
* assbot gives voice to Vexual [10:13]
mircea_popescu Just don't place arbs which gives you less than 5% of your "under" stake. If you place 100 EUR on under at Europeans , it means that you must place only arbs which give you more than 5 EUR. This way, you need only 20 arbs to recover the losses from " 1 goal" for the 30 (might even less) sec you need after you first bet is accepted probably is less than 1/20. This rule of 5% profit from you under stake is reasonable. So [10:14]
mircea_popescu me statistics of collected data from such bets could reveal more, but this 1/20 goal scoring assumption seems to be close to reality. Base on my own stats the probability of the goal is 1,8% , which means that 1,8 goals are scored in 100 bets. My net profit is smth like 65% of my total profit, the rest (35%) is the loss i have suffered from goals being scored in pending time. You must never place bets less than 5 EUR [10:14]
mircea_popescu (5% of your under bet, which we are assuming it is 100 EUR) unless it is HT where there is no danger. If you place bets for 2 EUR profit, you need now 50 arbs to recover the losses and i doubt that you will make any money. [10:14]
mircea_popescu based on his own fucking data o.O [10:14]
mircea_popescu "his own data" being an arbitrary, uncontrolled and irreproducible cutout of the general flow. [10:14]
* stoop_ has quit (Quit: Page closed) [10:15]
RagnarDanneskjol mhmm. if he hurls enough data though, surely this gaping hole will be overlooked [10:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.28854545 = 3.174 BTC [-] {3} [10:20]
mircea_popescu i'm sure the schmuck is sitting in a bar somewhere right now, all radiant of his greatness as he imagines it. [10:20]
mircea_popescu that unless he's not running for his life from a coupla thugs owned by some bookie he owes to. [10:20]
RagnarDanneskjol HA [10:22]
punkman [10:25]
assbot 3 Business Lessons From The Sinaloa Drug Cartel | Co.Design | business + design [10:25]
Vexual robin williams doesnt do coke anymore [10:26]
RagnarDanneskjol sounds a lot like b-a [10:26]
punkman I just lol'd at title+url [10:27]
* pi07r has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:28]
mircea_popescu Blockbuster is gone. So are Lehman Brothers, Atari, Pan Am, Circuit City and countless others each year. Startups fail, too, with 80% going belly up within the first 18 months. But here’s something to consider in comparison: criminal syndicates don’t go out of business. The Chinese Triads have been around since the 17th century. For 25 years, Mexico’s Sinaloa Cartel has outmaneuvered vicious competition at home a [10:29]
mircea_popescu s well as the United States' $51 billion--annually--“War on Drugs.” [10:29]
mircea_popescu yeah well the problem with that is that it's more akin to saying that detroit or hollywood don't go away. [10:29]
mircea_popescu "the chinese triads" aren't a the in this context any more than "the chinese government" is a the. obviously there's going to be some sort of government, such as for instance the one in taiwan. [10:30]
* pi07r ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:30]
mircea_popescu FabianB or anyone interested : .ws switch blew. the rest are fine. ws should be back within hours as replacement gets installed. [10:32]
mircea_popescu "Another is just a sorrowful question: What if these talented criminals had only used their talents for good?" [10:35]
mircea_popescu allow me to rephrase : what if the state went the fuck away and stopped bothering people. [10:36]
Vexual people would be confused for a few months [10:37]
RagnarDanneskjol this guy would be warren buffett - [10:37]
* trixisowned is now known as IbnBatutta [10:37]
punkman speaking of syndicates, ISIS in Lebanon already. They just need some boats now and then Pirates of the Mediterranean ! [10:38]
* The20YearIRCloud has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [10:38]
mircea_popescu i kinda am rooting for them to invade italy, force italians into sex slavery in morocco [10:40]
mircea_popescu i'd prolly visit just for to shoot new trilema header. [10:40]
* fanquake (~anonymous@unaffiliated/fanquake) has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:40]
Vexual morocco or italy? [10:41]
mircea_popescu morocco [10:42]
punkman [10:42]
assbot Mosul Dam's Takeover by ISIS Raises Risk of Flooding - WSJ [10:42]
punkman oh lol dam without foundation, they just pump a mix of water/cement/sand into foundation cavities all the time [10:43]
mircea_popescu there's no real way to make foundations there iirc. [10:44]
RagnarDanneskjol yea, all sand [10:44]
Vexual dubai is sandy no? [10:44]
Vexual deep works [10:45]
mircea_popescu in things like permafrost you can at least put deep pillars in and pour on that [10:45]
mircea_popescu but ice is a crystalline lattice. sand is not [10:45]
mircea_popescu it just grinds your pillars to dust and there you go. [10:45]
* HeySteve has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:47]
Vexual hmm [10:48]
Vexual i attempted the engine from ore thing [10:49]
Vexual but diverted apter i ruined my kitchen [10:50]
Vexual wehn considering improvements to the valve system i imagined a better concrete pump [10:51]
punkman melting beercans? [10:51]
Vexual saucepans [10:51]
Vexual beerscans burned up [10:51]
mircea_popescu Vexual [10:52]
assbot Seinfeld - Kramer (the Merv Griffin set) - YouTube [10:52]
mircea_popescu he tries to make gravel. in a blender. [10:52]
Vexual lol [10:52]
* IbnBatutta is now known as trixisowned [10:53]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [20:02]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: || || || [20:02]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [20:02]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [20:02]
* assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu [20:03]
* HeySteve ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:03]
* HeySteve has quit (Changing host) [20:03]
* HeySteve (HeySteve@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:03]
* belcher has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [20:03]
asciilifeform re: 'adversarial stylometry' << i had this working privately, years ago, for long-finished project. never thought it was remarkable in any way. [20:05]
* Dimsler ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:05]
asciilifeform ;;google shakespeare gzip [20:05]
gribble Download - Open Source Shakespeare: ; XMill - Examples - Liefke: ; XMill - An Efficient Compressor for XML - Liefke: [20:05]
asciilifeform ^ fail [20:05]
asciilifeform << based on this. [20:06]
assbot Reading the Bits of Shakespeare | Science/AAAS | News [20:06]
asciilifeform ordinary gzip plus a little bit of script gets you where you want to go. [20:06]
* BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:07]
asciilifeform whether you want to imitate - or diverge from - a sample corpus, depends naturally on application. [20:07]
kakobrekla cpanel !?! < since ever [20:07]
wyrdmantis !jd [20:08]
assbot Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered [20:08]
kakobrekla that is old wyrdmantis [20:08]
wyrdmantis ok...and? [20:08]
asciilifeform aha [20:09]
* asciilifeform suspected this. [20:10]
kakobrekla wyrdmantis what good does it do you [20:10]
* asciilifeform likes to imagine that they talk to the mothership purely via blockchain telegraph, never knowing where it lives [20:10]
kakobrekla cpanel hosts are actually not the cheapest [20:10]
* kermit has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [20:10]
kakobrekla as they need to pay for... cpanel. [20:10]
mircea_popescu lol [20:10]
mircea_popescu they're not that cheap, no. [20:11]
mircea_popescu they're disposable tho, sure. [20:11]
wyrdmantis i'm just testing some commands :) [20:11]
* Mantrid has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [20:11]
* Mantrid (~mexicans@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:11]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:11]
wyrdmantis !t [20:13]
assbot Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way? [20:13]
wyrdmantis lol [20:14]
* jctb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [20:14]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:15]
wyrdmantis ;;ticker [20:15]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 541.83, Best ask: 544.58, Bid-ask spread: 2.75000, Last trade: 544.6, 24 hour volume: 22684.48763127, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 546.416149241 [20:15]
* assbot gives voice to BingoBoingo [20:16]
wyrdmantis how to send messages to someone not online? [20:16]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell wyrdmantis this way [20:16]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:16]
BingoBoingo %t [20:16]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 188 Ask: 225 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 154k High: 250 Low: 188 VWAP: 192 [20:17]
mircea_popescu [20:18]
assbot BitBet - LTC dead before Doge :: 0.02 B (2%) on Yes, 0.88 B (98%) on No | closing in 10 months 3 weeks | weight: 99`625 (100`000 to 10`000) [20:18]
mircea_popescu the shitcontest! [20:18]
* Quanttek (~quassel@2a02:8108:d00:870:147c:6a38:9ba6:6163) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:19]
* wyrdmantis has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [20:20]
mircea_popescu << this is uncharacteristically lulzy. [20:21]
assbot Twitter / Suche - #etherium [20:21]
mircea_popescu mostly because... [20:22]
assbot Twitter / Suche - #Syscoin [20:22]
mircea_popescu THE WHALES!!11 [20:22]
asciilifeform interesting that they didn't have the patience to find a bulk buyer - or at least to piss it out to the exchanges slowly [20:25]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [20:25]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 540.34, Best ask: 540.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.61000, Last trade: 540.32, 24 hour volume: 22676.31398977, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 546.408520967 [20:25]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: cpanel indeed [20:26]
* princessnell has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [20:26]
asciilifeform impatience - an almost inescapable attribute of any dumb criminal [20:26]
ben_vulpes hey is that the dump from ether profits? [20:26]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes kinda what the usg needs, more loans of this type. [20:26]
mircea_popescu imbecile forumites are more than happy to provide [20:26]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i immediately assumed that's what it was, when it began. seems like other people also like this hypothesis. doesn't prove it is true [20:26]
kakobrekla it could be anything really [20:27]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: they more or less confessed [20:27]
mircea_popescu at least here we know it has a fucking end. [20:27]
asciilifeform everything has a fucking end [20:28]
mircea_popescu no. [20:28]
mircea_popescu fiction has no end. [20:28]
mircea_popescu that'd be the principal problem with fiction. [20:28]
kakobrekla end can possibly never end. [20:28]
mircea_popescu as any successful fiction writer found out in short order. [20:28]
asciilifeform 'that is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die' etc [20:28]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: ether is a loan to the usg? [20:29]
ben_vulpes or meta-usg/ [20:29]
mircea_popescu "now you gotta write a sequel" [20:29]
ben_vulpes or btc sent to ether addr is loan to usg? [20:29]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: see earlier [20:29]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [20:29]
* mircea_popescu redirects ben_vulpes to the hermetic [20:29]
assbot Let’s pretend… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:30]
ben_vulpes yeah, i get it i read it, but whence the source? there was the usms sale which is theoretically trickling into the market, and the ether sale which may or may not be trickling into the market. the former, clearly usg. the latter as well? [20:32]
* Mantrid has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [20:32]
* Mantrid (~mexicans@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:32]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: usg << one possible explanatory hypothesis for why they bought straight from the vendor instead of mircea_popescu's short [20:32]
* jctb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [20:32]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:33]
* jctb has quit (Client Quit) [20:35]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes pretty much every single major sucking of chumps change you will see from about q1 onwards will be and has been a psyops riding on top of a usg-backed institutional lending for shorts [20:35]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:35]
mircea_popescu here's the scheme : whatever usg affiliate, be it goldman sachs or herpy q derp that holds any sum of btc will lend it to the usg btc policy bureau in exchange for fiat guarantees. [20:36]
* RagnarDanneskjol has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:36]
mircea_popescu any usg affiliate or more likely, herpy q derp that looks like he may acquire any btc sum through any means will receive all the soft backing possible, from business insder news articles to an invitation to the fucking white house. anything whatsoever as long as it loks natural rather than spammy [20:37]
mircea_popescu all these loan contracts are promised to unwind in fiat eventually, and will be in fact profitable for all parties if and only if bitcoin actually fails. [20:37]
mircea_popescu they are no major concern for the usg in either case, because man who hangs for a goat might as well hang for a goat and a chick [20:38]
mircea_popescu no matter how cool the chick was. [20:38]
mircea_popescu and so here we are. part ii of the game is, how much do you ~actually~ like this thing, once money actually is on the table. [20:39]
* hdbuck has quit (Quit: hdbuck) [20:39]
mircea_popescu unremarkably, the worthless shitheads that joined late have nothing to contribute. [20:39]
mircea_popescu but suddenly, the large early holdings that all the shitheads-with-a-megaphone were decrying as dangerous to bitcoin [20:40]
mircea_popescu turn into a major point of support for bitcoin. [20:40]
mircea_popescu which is how things work in moronia, down is up, etc. [20:40]
asciilifeform the large early holdings << these moved ? [20:41]
mircea_popescu nope. [20:41]
asciilifeform so isn't it rather like saying 'volcano was a major point of support for pompei until day x' [20:41]
mircea_popescu quite. [20:42]
mircea_popescu if the volcano never erupts, the fertile land on its slopes is actually enough to make the village own the other villages and build an empire. [20:42]
* asciilifeform wonders if the dump wasn't the work of an impatient man, but of a thinking one - trying to induce 'stress fracture' (what's the correct term?) via stampede effects [20:43]
mircea_popescu anyway, this whole charade'd have worked a damned sight better if the various y-combinator bezzlers, the foundation hearn, gmaxwell and co would have actually had what they thought they had and everyone thought they should have, ie, actual respectability and bitcoin cred. [20:43]
mircea_popescu thankfully, uncommon sense prevailed. so far at least. [20:43]
* mike_c (~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what i think on that topic is perhaps apparent from what i do, namely, that i'm even talking about all this. [20:44]
* assbot gives voice to mike_c [20:44]
* jctb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [20:44]
mircea_popescu but yes, for momentum shorts soft landing is the worst fucking news imaginable. so far, we're beating the shit out of a soft flubbery substance the size of a continent. [20:44]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:44]
* asciilifeform infers that, should a peculiar effect be seen and mircea_popescu is silent, then it must be truly interesting [20:45]
mircea_popescu or imaginary (ie, powerless) [20:45]
mircea_popescu it's kinda funny how this works in qm terms. basically, an oracle of the wave function, but just on the real part. is this actually useful ? [20:45]
* jctb has quit (Client Quit) [20:48]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Alibaba IPO mkt cap over $150B end of opening day" Odds: 68(Y):32(N) by coin, 67(Y):33(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.57 BTC. Current weight: 94,939. [20:49]
mircea_popescu anyway, that's the major change here. after the missed boat of govt mining last year, this year the us fed has actually given its infinite fiat backing to any scheme that convincingly may help, and meanwhile to trying to depress price. [20:50]
mircea_popescu this isn't something other countries can do, nor do they need to. this is the one opportunity they get to stock up. [20:51]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [20:52]
* princessnell ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:52]
* Mantrid has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [20:52]
* Mantrid (~mexicans@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hard to see who else could have reanimated the corpse of the 2011-era human wave chump attacks [20:53]
* princessnell has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:53]
mircea_popescu apparently it's sop. [20:54]
the20year for? [20:54]
mircea_popescu it boggles the mind what ends up being sop in a system that survives long enough. [20:54]
mircea_popescu kinda best argument against survival, that. "you'll end up weird." [20:55]
* antonosika (uid31762@gateway/web/ has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:55]
mircea_popescu fluffypony you know i can't look at and not think spaghetti on the first pass. [20:56]
penguirker New blog post: [20:56]
fluffypony lol [20:56]
fluffypony that's the way it's meant to be [20:56]
* hdbuck ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:58]
los_pantalones BFL tried to sell ~3k BTC over the counter 10 days ago [20:59]
los_pantalones i told them to eff off [20:59]
los_pantalones not sure if anyone did the trade [20:59]
* Quanttek has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:59]
mircea_popescu they did :) [20:59]
mircea_popescu should be interesting, because no way that doesn't get attached. [20:59]
los_pantalones was my argument to my buddy who thought about pulling the trigger [20:59]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:59]
asciilifeform attached << i.e. wagen ? [21:00]
los_pantalones i told him he was a moron and welcome to the litigation party [21:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform in bankruptcy proceedings, suspect trades of the management can be attached to the proceedings. [21:00]
los_pantalones yup [21:00]
los_pantalones as they should [21:00]
asciilifeform aha [21:00]
los_pantalones b/c otherwise i'd sell my POS equipment in the corner [21:00]
los_pantalones to my buddy [21:00]
mircea_popescu in bankruptcy proceedings with an aroma of fraud, criminal liability may flow through such trades [21:00]
los_pantalones for whatever price i want, bankrupt the co and walk out w/ cash [21:01]
* HeySteve has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:01]
mircea_popescu los_pantalones yeah, no practical way for an unwotted system to work otherwise. [21:01]
los_pantalones correct [21:01]
* mike_c has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [21:01]
mircea_popescu notably the inventors of capitalism didn't either want or use such procedures. [21:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1126 @ 0.00175578 = 1.977 BTC [-] {11} [21:01]
asciilifeform attached, stolen coin << i've long suspected that chumpatrons like eth are 'anmesty funnels' for such stashes [21:02]
mircea_popescu but then again they were specifically uninclusive, or should i say anti-inclusive. [21:02]
asciilifeform *amnesty [21:02]
los_pantalones bbl, DMV time! [21:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, they aren't in fact, but surely, such is promised. [21:02]
mircea_popescu anything is promised when the matter at hand is extending the life of promise as a thing into the world. [21:02]
* CoalPowerGorilla has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:08]
* jctb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [21:10]
thestringpuller mod6: [21:10]
assbot Jeezy on Sway in the Morning: Jay Z, Rick Ross, His Son, Freddie Gibbs, Illuminati and more - YouTube [21:10]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:10]
thestringpuller ^ you're welcome [21:10]
thestringpuller :D [21:10]
* mike_c (~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:10]
mircea_popescu %d [21:13]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 215279.89 in 1996 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -88.54 [21:13]
thestringpuller chain hop chain hop! [21:14]
mircea_popescu << 10 days for 3,65k blocks [21:14]
assbot BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time :: 2.5 B (26%) on Yes, 7.05 B (74%) on No | closed 2 weeks 3 days ago [21:14]
* CoalPowerGorilla (~a@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:14]
mod6 thx tsp :] [21:15]
mod6 was someone else looking for me earlier? [21:15]
* mike_c has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [21:16]
* FabianB_ (~fabian@unaffiliated/fabianb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 989 @ 0.00174 = 1.7209 BTC [-] [21:18]
* Quanttek (~quassel@2a02:8108:d00:870:147c:6a38:9ba6:6163) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:18]
* theodred (~theodred@gateway/tor-sasl/theodred) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:20]
* FabianB has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00171459 = 1.7146 BTC [-] {8} [21:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 458 @ 0.00171111 = 0.7837 BTC [-] {2} [21:22]
* mike_c (~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:24]
* Dimsler has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:26]
* punkman1 (~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:28]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:29]
* punkman has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:30]
* alex__c (~Alex@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:31]
* Ginux_ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:32]
* Guest75192 ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:32]
* Ukyo has quit (Disconnected by services) [21:32]
* Guest75192 is now known as Ukyo [21:32]
* Ukyo has quit (Changing host) [21:32]
* Ukyo (~Kami-Sama@unaffiliated/ukto) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:32]
* damier_ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:33]
* Dimsler ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:33]
* sgnb` ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:34]
* mthreat_ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:34]
* terp_ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:35]
* chax_ (~chax@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:37]
* PowerGorilla (~a@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:38]
* Lee- has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:39]
* Lee- (~lee@unaffiliated/lee-) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:40]
* CoalPowerGorilla has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* alex_c has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* SuchWow has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* pleego has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* sgnb has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* Ginux has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* terp has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* mthreat has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* damier has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* xe4l has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* penguirker has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* so has quit (*.net *.split) [21:41]
* damier_ is now known as damier [21:41]
* damier is now known as Guest52791 [21:41]
* penguirker ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:42]
* ChanServ gives voice to penguirker [21:42]
* SuchWow (~SuchWow@unaffiliated/suchwow) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:42]
* xe4l (~unknown@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:48]
* pleego ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:49]
* kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:50]
* so (~so@unaffiliated/so) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:50]
* knotwork_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:51]
jurov ;;bc,convert eur [21:51]
gribble 1 BTC = 546.99 USD = 409.093821 eur [21:51]
pankkake ;;ticker --market bcent --currency eur [21:52]
gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 411.01, Best ask: 414.49999999, Bid-ask spread: 3.49000, Last trade: 412.0, 24 hour volume: 98.8638896, 24 hour low: 401.0, 24 hour high: 433.98, 24 hour vwap: 414.70497387 [21:52]
* knotwork_ (~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:52]
* ADutchGamer has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:55]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [21:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1760 @ 0.00171113 = 3.0116 BTC [-] {4} [21:59]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 545.45, Best ask: 546.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 546.34, 24 hour volume: 24793.05892021, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 545.688021621 [21:59]
thestringpuller interesting [22:00]
mircea_popescu and is back in the game too. [22:04]
* jordandotdev has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [22:05]
* nubbins` golf claps [22:12]
* ADutchGamer ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:13]
* punkman (~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:14]
* samO_ (6d5dedf1@gateway/web/freenode/ip. has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:16]
* punkman1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:16]
* samO is now known as Guest82195 [22:16]
* samO_ is now known as samO [22:16]
* Guest82195 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:19]
jurov lol where i ended up [22:19]
assbot Petrodollar Scam Breaking Down - YouTube [22:19]
jurov we should bribe him to narrate some trilema material [22:20]
mircea_popescu [22:21]
mircea_popescu Brother Nathanael [22:21]
mircea_popescu Subscribe [22:21]
mircea_popescu 43,085 [22:21]
mircea_popescu 63,187 [22:21]
mircea_popescu 1,465 47 [22:21]
mircea_popescu Like [22:21]
mircea_popescu [22:21]
mircea_popescu About [22:21]
mircea_popescu Share [22:21]
mircea_popescu Add to [22:21]
mircea_popescu [22:21]
mircea_popescu [22:21]
mircea_popescu [22:21]
mircea_popescu Published on Jan 3, 2014 [22:21]
mircea_popescu --------------Support the Brother Nathanael Foundation!-------------- [22:21]
mircea_popescu Donate Here @ [22:21]
mircea_popescu aw shit. sorry. [22:21]
jurov lmao mircea [22:21]
nubbins` nice paste [22:21]
assbot Send Money, Pay Online or Set Up a Merchant Account - PayPal [22:21]
nubbins` how many horses did you need to make that much paste :D [22:21]
* theodred (~theodred@gateway/tor-sasl/theodred) has left #bitcoin-assets [22:22]
mircea_popescu fucking youtube scammed me. [22:22]
mircea_popescu anyway, the point i had buried under all that failpaste is... wtf, "petrodollar scam breaking down plz send me dollar instead" ? [22:22]
ben_vulpes (from #emacs: "better than a gun-activated bitcoin printer") [22:25]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:26]
* yamaka (~yamaka@ has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:27]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: emacs-activated gun printer [22:28]
* jMyles ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:32]
the20year Any RS investors? We just sent out August financials [22:37]
* napedia has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:41]
* FabianB_ is now known as FabianB [22:46]
* assbot gives voice to FabianB [22:46]
BingoBoingo!bCM1YY [22:48]
assbot Orlando Scandrick tried to explain his PED use. | : Will Leitch Article [22:48]
mircea_popescu here's a funny story from the past : in 1936 (ie, after the disastrous effects of roosevelt's socialist inanity became apparent to anyone worth the mention), literary digest sent out 10mn questionnaires to all the people buying it + anyone with a car or a phone. [22:50]
mircea_popescu they got ~2.5mn responses. [22:51]
mircea_popescu according to these, roosevelt was going out of office. [22:51]
mircea_popescu according to people who didn't read literary digest, own a car or a phone however... he stayed. [22:51]
mircea_popescu the ~other~ us liberal dictator, died in office, during his 4th term. [22:52]
mircea_popescu (also author of the sec, in case anyone missed the memo on what exactly the play is "undo the new deal", should they continue unaligned.) [22:54]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: mdma is performance-enhancing ? [22:59]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Amphetamines are which is what the test was positive for. His story is MDMA, because recreational drugs have a lesser penalty (counseling vs. unpaid 4 game suspension) [23:00]
mircea_popescu you can test specifically for mdma clearance tho neh ? [23:01]
BingoBoingo Prolly, whether the NFL does or not is murky. [23:01]
* alex__c has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:02]
asciilifeform when i studied ochem (admittedly a while ago) telling the two apart still required a human who could read spectra reasonably well [23:02]
mircea_popescu not like they have to test so many samples they can't afford a lab technician [23:04]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's usually done with bots [23:04]
* daybyter ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:05]
mircea_popescu jacking off is also usually done with bots, nevertheless athletes usually can afford stripper service. [23:05]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not because of quantity, but because 'human factor' [23:06]
asciilifeform i.e. this - [23:06]
assbot Annie Dookhan, former state chemist who mishandled drug evidence, agrees to plead guilty - Metro - The Boston Globe [23:06]
mircea_popescu not like this is an unmanageable problem. [23:07]
mircea_popescu have three of them. [23:07]
asciilifeform like soviet rocket assemblers [23:07]
asciilifeform sure [23:07]
mircea_popescu the courts can';t afford it and the das don't want it, but that is immaterial here i'd guess. [23:07]
asciilifeform korolev, afaik, invented this system [23:07]
mircea_popescu well it's not so much to invent, babylonians prolly invented it. [23:08]
mircea_popescu if not, the roman triumvirate works as invention too [23:08]
asciilifeform one calls out recipe steps; one actually tightens the bolt, whatever; one - verifies. then they all sign. [23:08]
asciilifeform all 3 answer with heads. [23:08]
mircea_popescu alternatively, they do all 3 in different gulag stations [23:09]
mircea_popescu then results compared at moscow [23:09]
asciilifeform rocket's a bitch to move. [23:09]
mircea_popescu make three rockets. [23:09]
asciilifeform lol [23:09]
mircea_popescu whichever rocket is not seen... it's where the other rockets land. [23:09]
mircea_popescu very fair system, too. [23:10]
asciilifeform 'two in a box' school of management. [23:10]
mircea_popescu you recall the romanian bridgebuilding joke ? [23:10]
chetty thats a joke? I thought it was a true story! [23:11]
* antonosika has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [23:12]
mircea_popescu lol well that's why it's funny. [23:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, if you meant two in a box like this idiocy : it's exactly not what i had in mind. [23:12]
assbot 'Two in a Box' Management Works Like Equal Parenting [23:12]
mircea_popescu the irrelevant and replaceable parts are the actors, not the agents. [23:13]
asciilifeform nah the other two-in-a-box. e.g. let's have kgb and gru play same field [23:13]
mircea_popescu there's no need for two guys to come up with ways to test the mdma. one's enough. there may be need for three dudes to implement the testing, however. [23:13]
* manamex ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:13]
asciilifeform sometimes human factor is a plus (soviet nuke subs, manual reactor controls) [23:14]
mircea_popescu << for historical interest. this is how the party records looked back when the usg had few and marginal enemies, a solid grip on power, and people looked at the usgisation of places like intel as a Good Thing. [23:15]
assbot How Intel Grooms Its Leaders The succession formula is downright revolutionary: It picks CEOs years in advance, without drama or surprise. - July 1, 2004 [23:15]
asciilifeform pipetting liquids in a predefined volume all day long is not one of these cases [23:15]
asciilifeform machine wins. but three drivers sitting in front of it, sure [23:15]
* jctb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [23:18]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:19]
* jctb has quit (Client Quit) [23:20]
asciilifeform 'This extremely rare type of keyswitch actually presses a fake switch, similar to the Cherry MX Blue ‘jumping bean’ mechanism... Underneath each row of keys is an isolated ‘transfer bar’, which the sliding ‘beans’ strike. On each end of the bar, a transducer (i.e. microphone or piezo) picks up the sound of the strike transmitted through the bar. The difference in arrival time between the two transduc [23:24]
asciilifeform ers tells which key was pressed... It’s corrosion resistant, impervious to the environment, and yes – it will work underwater.' [23:24]
asciilifeform ( [23:24]
mircea_popescu keycon ?! [23:25]
* asciilifeform was surprised too [23:25]
* jctb (~jctb@gateway/tor-sasl/jctb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:25]
asciilifeform principle is ancient though. it's how the first 'artist tablets' worked [23:26]
asciilifeform with a spark gap for the audio source [23:26]
asciilifeform (triangulated sound) [23:26]
asciilifeform 1960s if i recall [23:27]
asciilifeform (and the by now known to virtually everyone nsa typewriter trick) [23:27]
* mthreat_ is now known as mthreat [23:28]
mircea_popescu << this guy is the mayor of a seaside romanian town. [23:30]
mircea_popescu << same dude. [23:31]
* wywialm has quit () [23:32]
mircea_popescu etc [23:32]
* OX3_ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:37]
ben_vulpes !t h rent [23:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00403501 / 0.00440115 / 0.00450000 (245 shares, 1.07828173 BTC), 7D: 0.00389999 / 0.00421793 / 0.00450000 (1864 shares, 7.86221338 BTC), 30D: 0.00305500 / 0.00407116 / 0.00540000 (10338 shares, 42.08760370 BTC) [23:38]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: bitcoin-gunned emacs printer [23:39]
* Dimsler_ ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:40]
* Dimsler has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:40]
* ColinT ( has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:41]
BingoBoingo %t [23:43]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 190 Ask: 225 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 152k High: 195 Low: 188 VWAP: 192 [23:43]
BingoBoingo %ob [23:43]
atcbot 16k@250 1k@245 43k@225 | 185k@190 47k@188 37k@187 [23:43]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [23:43]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 542.5, Best ask: 543.18, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 543.18, 24 hour volume: 24947.54085957, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 545.10933068 [23:43]
BingoBoingo %d [23:43]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 189345.91 in 1995 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -89.92 [23:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00185199 = 0.7408 BTC [+] {2} [23:45]
* chax_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:45]
mircea_popescu what i want to know is, how's eskimobob's rent a clay oven business working. [23:49]
mircea_popescu has it roi hand over fist yet ? [23:49]
* pete_dushenski (~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:50]
mod6 lel [23:51]
the20year the litecoin pottery investment? [23:52]
the20year ART on LTCG [23:52]
mircea_popescu yes that [23:53]
the20year i hear they're aiming for a 0.5% APY [23:53]
* empyex has quit () [23:55]
* justusranvier has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [23:55]
* empyex (~mpextrade@unaffiliated/mpextradebot) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:56]
* ChanServ gives voice to empyex [23:56]
BingoBoingo [23:56]
mircea_popescu the worst thing in that pic is the astroturf. [23:58]
BingoBoingo lol [23:58]
* empyex has quit (Client Quit) [23:58]
mircea_popescu "LeGuin did tell a 911 call taker that he intended to occupy the Far North Dallas house as a sovereign nation for himself." [23:58]
asciilifeform cremated by polizei in own astroturf ? [23:58]
* empyex (~mpextrade@unaffiliated/mpextradebot) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:58]
* ChanServ gives voice to empyex [23:58]
asciilifeform or wait, alive [23:58]
BingoBoingo alive [23:58]
FabianB $mpexstatus [23:59]
empyex FabianB: Proxies: Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 [23:59]
empyex FabianB: MPEx-Status: (683 milliseconds), (605 milliseconds), (error), (769 milliseconds), (889 milliseconds) [23:59]
mircea_popescu Maj. Jeff Cotner of the crimes against persons division said the whole incident was surreal. “I’ve been here 32 1/2 years. This is bizarre,” he said. <<< dear usg worker, do yourself a favour, read today. [23:59]
assbot The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:59]
mircea_popescu there's nothing "surreal" about it and it's not going away. it will have your throat slit if you persist. love, mp. [23:59]
Category: Logs
Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.
Add your cents! »
    If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.