Forum logs for 11 Apr 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

mircea_popescu	"This brings me to the core of what I dislike about Wolfram's book. It is going to set the field back by years. On the one hand, scientists in other fields are going to think we're all crackpots like him. On the other hand, we're going to be deluged, again, with people who fall for this kind of nonsense. I expect to have to waste a lot of time in the next few years de-programming students who'll have read A New Kind of	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	Science before knowing any better."	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	fuycking problem of bitcoin.	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	we do not want "more adoption", especially if that "more adoption" is sandmans brought in by aspirin bitcoin "jesuses"	[00:02]
asciilifeform	https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=comp.lang.lisp/BUxXH76CYdc/IunywkAxufMJ	[00:04]
asciilifeform	it is worth noting that herr w. created his flagship product by 'pulling a bitcoinica'	[00:04]
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asciilifeform	(ran off with taxpayer-funded 'macsyma' and hired some people to write a gui)	[00:05]
thestringpuller	the problem of bitcoin is the problem of the internet...eternal september	[00:05]
asciilifeform	there's a unique species of crackpot - the kind with actual power	[00:06]
asciilifeform	e.g. lysenko	[00:06]
jurov	all that rubbish. why i had to do my first programming steps in qbasic?	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform that's not pulling a bitcoinica, that's pulling a washingtonica.	[00:06]
turbo_ac100	no block found for 45 min. Is that true?	[00:06]
jurov	because nobody could be bothered to make free list for msdos	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	;;tslb	[00:06]
jurov	*lisp	[00:06]
gribble	Time since last block: 45 minutes and 21 seconds	[00:06]
joecool	lawdy	[00:06]
[\]	balls	[00:06]
jurov	all these high horses	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	jurov if you stole msdos to the degree you thought it was free	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	why didn't you steal lisp too	[00:07]
jurov	cuz nobody around had it	[00:07]
fluffypony	jurov: you think that's bad, I started on GWBASIC and then progressed to Pascal	[00:07]
fluffypony	took me years to unlearn bad habits	[00:07]
asciilifeform	there were many lisps of various descriptions for msdos	[00:07]
jurov	i progressed to pascal, too	[00:07]
*	bounce liked pascal	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	i actually liked qbasic. dunno why all the hate.	[00:07]
asciilifeform	but, afaik, no 'adult' ansi common lisp	[00:07]
thestringpuller	who didn't like basic	[00:07]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: qbasic or quickbasic?	[00:07]
thestringpuller	it's classic	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	nono, qbasic.	[00:07]
[\]	urmom	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	it had this auto eval window	[00:08]
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*	daybyter throws in some java...	[00:08]
fluffypony	yeah that was cool	[00:08]
bounce	back when, no ubiquitous 'net, not even a modem, and no connections to extoll the virtues of lisp	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	you'd go ? 12*32 and it was really like ;;calc	[00:08]
[\]	I still remember seeing a=a+1 for the first time	[00:08]
fluffypony	I vastly preferred PowerBasic to Turbo PAscal	[00:08]
fluffypony	*Pascal	[00:08]
[\]	and thinking that that statement was impossible	[00:08]
bounce	did get a forth from somebody, but without a good book it was hard to get started with it	[00:08]
asciilifeform	phun phact. msdos 'edit' is actually 'qbasic', with the basic ineptly commented out - in such a way that the code is still buried in the binary.	[00:08]
[\]	since algebra says things must be balanced	[00:08]
fluffypony	asciilifeform: I remember	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	and besides. qbasic came with monkeys.bas	[00:08]
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mircea_popescu	i kept editing the code to do weird shit. was loads of fun	[00:09]
fluffypony	omg that and the tank game	[00:09]
thestringpuller	asciilifeform: I learned something today I never knew...mind blown.	[00:09]
daybyter	fluffypony: combat?	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller it was [pretty obvious even at the time. they looked alike.	[00:09]
Diablo-D3	and you know whats really fun?	[00:09]
Diablo-D3	quickbasic uses a more powerful version of that editor	[00:09]
fluffypony	daybyter: can't remember	[00:10]
bounce	some things are best forgotten	[00:10]
fluffypony	I remember when I got my Nokia 6110 and it had Snake on it	[00:10]
fluffypony	I was like	[00:10]
fluffypony	"Nibbles?"	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	hahaha yeah	[00:10]
fluffypony	and nobody understood wtf I was talking about	[00:10]
Diablo-D3	fuck yeah nibbles	[00:10]
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daybyter	fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m86ftny1uY	[00:11]
daybyter	that game?	[00:11]
fluffypony	clicks	[00:11]
Diablo-D3	no not that game	[00:11]
Diablo-D3	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDc3ZEKl-Wc	[00:11]
ozbot	QBASIC Gorillas - YouTube	[00:11]
Diablo-D3	gorillas	[00:11]
Diablo-D3	lulz	[00:11]
fluffypony	daybyter: yes!	[00:11]
jurov	anyway. what i want to say, despite it was quite decent environment, it naturally led everyone to use turbopascal&co.	[00:11]
Diablo-D3	but yeah, qbasic had a scortched earth clone	[00:12]
jurov	if there was a cool DOS game built on lisp	[00:12]
jurov	we could have been years ahead	[00:12]
daybyter	fluffypony: I started a rewrite of that game in javascript to use it for coin gaming.	[00:12]
asciilifeform	problem being, all 'small' lisps are interpreters (what nearly everyone thinks of all lisps as being)	[00:12]
asciilifeform	because optimizing compilers are bulky - and require serious thought to write	[00:12]
joecool	finally a new block	[00:13]
fluffypony	jurov: I will say this much, Turbo Pascal forced me to learn asm because some functions were orders of magnitude faster when offloaded to inline asm	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	^	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	actually it was a while until they had the first optimizing compiler working	[00:13]
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jurov	what problem? 386 can run a nifty logic game with interpreter	[00:13]
fluffypony	who remembers Swag, the Turbo Pascal code snippets collection?	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	i remember dlh, the useful game info collection.	[00:13]
asciilifeform	fluffypony: me. i still consult 'swag' for algos, once in a blue moon.	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	good enough ?	[00:14]
dignork	ew, I remember writing TSR programs in TP+asm, it was a horrible junk	[00:14]
asciilifeform	anyone remember the 'magical decompiler' somebody planted in 'swag'? (actually the 'gold bug' virus)	[00:14]
fluffypony	asciilifeform: I remember trading copies on stiffy disk because the Internet wasn't as common, and then eventually in like 1998/1999 downloading my first "current" release	[00:14]
fluffypony	dignork: it was the gold standard at the time :-P	[00:15]
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daybyter	any android devs here?	[00:16]
daybyter	interested in tradebots?	[00:16]
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dignork	fluffypony, and Ralph Brown's INT list, although there was some nice interactive help system as well	[00:17]
fluffypony	heh	[00:18]
fluffypony	dignork: before that list I used a Peter Norton programming guide that had an interrupt table	[00:18]
bounce	borland turbo pascal was a great step-up to asm because it was easy to get going with --also nicely light-weight compared to C!-- and made inline asm ridiculously easy.	[00:19]
fluffypony	bounce: agreed	[00:19]
fluffypony	borland really screwed things up over the years	[00:19]
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bounce	smallest TSR I did was... 32 bytes total memory cost. 16 bytes code, 16 bytes allocated memory given to DOS before exiting.	[00:20]
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jurov	^ and 20 years later, lispers still accusatorily point fingers in vain	[00:20]
jurov	Meh.	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	bounce inline asm is not easy in c ?	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	you can just put it in a pointer and... execute it.	[00:21]
fluffypony	dat asm	[00:21]
bounce	the tp compiler does its thing much quicker than the tc compiler	[00:21]
*	fluffypony http://kd5col.info/swag/SORTING/0043.PAS.html	[00:21]
bounce	and can relatively simply be put on a 360k floppy; just drop the bgi stuff from the std lib collection. compiler, stdlib, 3rd party editor. off you go. that just doesn't work so well with C.	[00:23]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: if you want the compiler to asm for you, vs. having to drop in a hex string and function ptr to it, compiler has to understand inline asm.	[00:24]
dignork	bounce, there was a debug.exe just to write .COM, i think it was still supplied in winXP	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	but the difference is purely acaemic.	[00:24]
Naphex	people here should stop talking about turbo pascal	[00:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.05402874 = 0.9725 BTC [-]	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	wtf is it going to do with it, give you asm error messages ?	[00:24]
Naphex	in order too keep this channel cool	[00:24]
Naphex	hehe	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	CD 21	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	there i've asm'd.	[00:25]
asciilifeform	lol!	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	:D	[00:26]
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asciilifeform	i'm one of the lucky (unlucky?) folks who uses x86 asm at day job.	[00:26]
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mircea_popescu	i haven't since the days i was looking through files to spot stoned.b	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	before "antivirus" was a thing	[00:27]
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asciilifeform	a fun diversion, for those innocent of such matters:	[00:27]
asciilifeform	;;google ascii shellcode	[00:27]
gribble	Ascii shellcode - Blackhat Techniques - Hacking Tutorials: ; Alphanumeric Shellcode - Metasploit Unleashed - Offensive Security: ; alpha3 - Alphanumeric shellcode encoder - Google Project Hosting:	[00:27]
fluffypony	asciilifeform: on embedded devices or generally?	[00:27]
bounce	borland turbo C also had a similar "basm" thingy, so no need to fsck around with hexstrings. tp was just the thing we used because it was easy to use. indeed, easier than tc.	[00:27]
asciilifeform	fluffypony: generally. reading, rather than writing.	[00:28]
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bounce	back in the days of 'zines over modem and even the odd book with virus listings from the library. forbidden knowledge!	[00:28]
MGK	Anyone interested in a graded MS65 1BTC casasius coin? Asking 1.5btc.	[00:29]
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benkay	graded?	[00:31]
benkay	MGK: graded?	[00:32]
MGK	yes	[00:33]
MGK	MS65	[00:33]
jurov	as in, .999 fine brass?	[00:34]
benkay	as in .99 pure btc	[00:34]
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fluffypony	bounce: fk was the shiznat	[00:35]
benkay	;;lasers	[00:36]
gribble	┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ pew! pew! pew!	[00:36]
jurov	;;railgun	[00:36]
gribble	Error: "railgun" is not a valid command.	[00:36]
mike_c	;;kittenlasers	[00:36]
gribble	Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command.	[00:36]
asciilifeform	;;nailgun	[00:36]
gribble	Error: "nailgun" is not a valid command.	[00:36]
jurov	;;monorailcat	[00:36]
gribble	Error: "monorailcat" is not a valid command.	[00:36]
fluffypony	bounce: or wait, I'm talking about the old South African zine called forbidden knowledge, not sure if you were just saying that in general	[00:36]
mike_c	;;laserkittens	[00:36]
gribble	ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ pew	[00:36]
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jurov	wuuut	[00:36]
benkay	wow.	[00:37]
mike_c	what? it's a kitten with a laser. no biggie.	[00:37]
bounce	that didn't quite reach faraway europe, I don't think, no.	[00:37]
bounce	or maybe it did and I just don't remember.	[00:37]
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MGK	yes the brass 2013	[00:38]
MGK	sorry Im doing a few things	[00:38]
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fluffypony	bounce: http://web.textfiles.com/ezines/FK/	[00:38]
fluffypony	terrible	[00:38]
bounce	.txt file, starts with . huh.	[00:39]
BingoBoingo	;;manul	[00:39]
gribble	Error: "manul" is not a valid command.	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	;;derpage	[00:40]
gribble	Error: "derpage" is not a valid command.	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	;/	[00:40]
fluffypony	reading some of the stuff I contributed is painful	[00:40]
fluffypony	14 years is a long time ago	[00:40]
bounce	;;canned derpage	[00:40]
gribble	Error: "canned" is not a valid command.	[00:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00095797 = 9.5797 BTC [-]	[00:41]
benkay	hey mircea_popescu i think i'm misreading your mpex tech stuff article - web servers have a copy of the db to fulfill stat requests?	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	pretty much	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	it's anonimized to some degree, mostly by replacing keys, but that shouldn't be relied on.	[00:42]
benkay	do they then have a copy of the mpex keys as well? for the signing of stats etc?	[00:43]
benkay	mircea_popescu ^^	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	no	[00:45]
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benkay	how does a stat get signed then?	[00:46]
mircea_popescu	that's complicated.	[00:46]
benkay	complicated i can handle	[00:49]
mircea_popescu	well no, what i mean is "that's complicated" in the sense of i'm not about to spill it.	[00:50]
MGK	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile PM me if youre interested in a MS65 1BTC coin	[00:50]
ozbot	An Error Has Occurred	[00:50]
benkay	oh i got that loud and clear	[00:50]
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fluffypony	I look forward to robwhiz22 joining us tomorrow	[00:53]
fluffypony	maybe he'll show us the sekrit dokumints	[00:54]
benkay	;;gettrust fluffypony	[00:54]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask fluffypony!~fluffypon@geartri.be. Trust relationship from user benkay to user fluffypony: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=fluffypony \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=fluffypony \| Rated since: Sat Apr 6 08:20:32 2013	[00:54]
fluffypony	;;ident fluffypony	[00:54]
gribble	Nick 'fluffypony', with hostmask 'fluffypony!~fluffypon@geartri.be', is identified as user 'fluffypony', with GPG key id 7455C5E3C0CDCEB9, key fingerprint BDA6BD7042B721C467A9759D7455C5E3C0CDCEB9, and bitcoin address 1FAvFCgXBmJ4uV3p1NFzWkkyndH7FJ6Vzx	[00:54]
fluffypony	;;voiceme	[00:54]
gribble	Error: You already have voice in #bitcoin-otc.	[00:54]
*	fluffypony hugs gribble	[00:54]
rithm	/nickserv identify rithm sekritpa55word	[00:54]
*	bounce proposes an ignore-o-meter that'll show who gets ignored by how many others in nice convenient bargraphs	[00:54]
rithm	DOH!	[00:54]
fluffypony	rithm: PRIVKEY NEXT PLZ	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	!b 4	[00:55]
assbot	Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1775992/plain/)	[00:55]
dignork	rithm, /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD sekritpa55word2	[00:56]
rithm	-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----	[00:56]
rithm	MIIEpQIBAAKCAQEA1lEXqr+TZ70mhIr+Ju92krlUiEO8MlXXXeZVAvZqlkI2AC2V	[00:56]
rithm	Qb+jTmfu/LwZXAYpsmgsi17zU0RytRO0/jYJ2P9HoY6x3qVvwm/Uoog1iVjaDrBd	[00:56]
rithm	F	[00:56]
rithm	omg hax	[00:56]
*	rithm knew he shouldn't have used ssl on his bouncer	[00:56]
*	fluffypony heartbleedz rithm dry	[00:57]
*	bounce next develops a calculus of (whatever the term is for the state of being ignored)	[00:57]
rithm	i tested my shit	[00:57]
dignork	rithm, pastebin your privkey, it got truncated :(	[00:57]
rithm	none of the affected are exposed	[00:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0075 = 0.225 BTC [+]	[00:57]
rithm	i'm taking my time	[00:57]
rithm	drinking beer and shit watching the internet burn	[00:57]
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rithm	ya'll didn't even try to login to nickserv gah	[00:58]
rithm	boring	[00:58]
rithm	thanks fluffypony	[00:58]
fluffypony	:)	[00:59]
*	rithm feels better	[00:59]
fluffypony	I try to make you happy	[00:59]
dignork	rithm, i just checked that i have this password in list of human generated passwords (i did)	[00:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05405775 = 0.2703 BTC [-] {2}	[00:59]
rithm	nice	[00:59]
rithm	it's my passphrase to my wallet too	[00:59]
rithm	that i generated in stock ubuntu	[00:59]
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rithm	it's still online with billions of bitcoins if you want 'em come get em bro	[01:00]
los_pantalones	so what's goin on right now? gox coins flooding mkt ?	[01:00]
fluffypony	rithm: I think I'm going to try random sha256 hash collision instead	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	los_pantalones what gox coins ?	[01:00]
akstunt600	lol gox coins	[01:01]
los_pantalones	karpeles selling usbs on the street?	[01:02]
akstunt600	hahhahahah yeah right	[01:02]
akstunt600	he is too much of a pussy for all that	[01:02]
los_pantalones	why not? he's dumb enough	[01:02]
los_pantalones	well, not that i'd know personally	[01:02]
los_pantalones	he seems dumb enough, excuse me	[01:02]
akstunt600	because hes scared	[01:02]
akstunt600	nooooo terrified	[01:02]
akstunt600	he thinks btc has been around 10yrs	[01:03]
akstunt600	lol	[01:03]
fluffypony	ohaaaai Mark	[01:03]
akstunt600	hahha	[01:03]
los_pantalones	ever seen that study about how really dumb people don't realize they are dumb	[01:03]
los_pantalones	defense mechanism	[01:03]
fluffypony	akstunt600: I'm sure he meant 10 years experience in netsec and not btc, though	[01:03]
akstunt600	i know :p	[01:03]
akstunt600	im toying	[01:03]
jurov	http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-core-developers-bitcoin-side-chains/ i herd you like blockchains, so...	[01:03]
akstunt600	hhahahahah jurov	[01:03]
akstunt600	this sidechain stuff is cool	[01:04]
akstunt600	like especially if they did like zerocoin styl on 2nd chain	[01:04]
los_pantalones	so, no theories on px move in here ?	[01:04]
los_pantalones	or no cares ?	[01:04]
fluffypony	what boggles my mind is that they (mtgox) were liquid enough to pay someone to rewrite everything in a less-crap way, and to permanently employ a bunch of CISSPs (at the very least)	[01:04]
benkay	;;later tell princessnell it's actually gpg keys which are tied to mpex accounts	[01:05]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[01:05]
fluffypony	to have such an Ivory Tower complex that you don't is...well...	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	los_pantalones no one cares.	[01:05]
jurov	fluffypony look no further than thermos	[01:05]
los_pantalones	figured	[01:05]
los_pantalones	ty	[01:05]
fluffypony	jurov: don't get me started	[01:05]
fluffypony	makes me seriously irritated	[01:05]
akstunt600	lol	[01:05]
akstunt600	thermos?	[01:05]
akstunt600	wut?	[01:06]
fluffypony	akstunt600: yes, he doesn't keep the coffee hot!	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony they never were liquid enough. not ever.	[01:06]
akstunt600	hahhahahhahahah	[01:06]
jurov	fluffypony no problem, lay here on the couch and let's latalk	[01:06]
jurov	*talk	[01:06]
kakobrekla	also put your pants down.	[01:06]
fluffypony	yes	[01:06]
benkay	davout mircea_popescu x.eur has delivery performed by delivery of cash to a bitcoin-central account, right?	[01:06]
fluffypony	and if someone can give me a scalp massage	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	benkay yes.	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	people don't quite grasp how bad a business mtgox was on a cashflow basis.	[01:07]
benkay	;;later tell princessnell http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-04-2014&bots=true#614499	[01:07]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	1. it was created by jeb mccaleb, the douche that recently fucked up kraken, and some other derps, on a shoestring.	[01:07]
dignork	mircea_popescu, but nobody knows really, have they ever published any reports?	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	it went nowhere so 2. karpeles took it over, with aid from some angel investors.	[01:07]
akstunt600	what did you expect they were a magic the gathering trading site	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	he proceeded to buy some failed polish exchange, which was over its history a loss,	[01:07]
akstunt600	well not officialy but i dont believeit	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	and then 3. got raped by jeb mccaleb (the "auditor") taking btc to 1 cent.	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	then they ran at a loss for all of 2012, piling more and more angel round money into a hole.	[01:08]
fluffypony	eish	[01:08]
akstunt600	yeah such sad shit	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	then just as 2013 brought increased prices and revenues, they lost 5mn dollars to the us fed, because karpeles is retarded and doesn't understand when to say no.	[01:08]
akstunt600	at least they didnt try to sell goxshares	[01:08]
fluffypony	hah	[01:08]
akstunt600	like cryptorush fiasco	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	all through this they were trying to daytrade, and doing it as well as bitcoinica	[01:09]
fluffypony	or IPO it	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	(horribly badly)	[01:09]
akstunt600	but thats small potatoes	[01:09]
akstunt600	omg IPO would have been epic	[01:09]
fluffypony	akstunt600: I know	[01:09]
fluffypony	in fact	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	this is something you can maybe carry on for a while, but if you're trying to it's a damned good idea not to annoy me as a side dish.	[01:09]
fluffypony	they should have done it as a coin	[01:09]
jurov	akstunt600: they will inevitably try it as "Gox"	[01:09]
fluffypony	GoxCoin IPO	[01:09]
akstunt600	Oh yeah that	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	and so this brings us to the spring of 2013, ever increasing pressures and eventually their collapse.	[01:10]
akstunt600	gox builder	[01:10]
akstunt600	lol	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	they never actually had a lump of money they didn't owe someone.	[01:10]
jurov	i want to see a bank that'll dare to manage New Gox's acct	[01:10]
akstunt600	hahahha i dont even want to see that attempted	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	dignork yes.	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	pdf, of course.	[01:10]
akstunt600	mircea_popescu, that makes perfect sense to me	[01:11]
akstunt600	I never touched them	[01:11]
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dignork	mircea_popescu if i read the history correctly, their report was published once, and long time ago	[01:12]
mircea_popescu	three reports they published afaik	[01:12]
mircea_popescu	2010, 2011, 2012	[01:13]
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jurov	http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303873604579493901002691642 as we speak	[01:15]
ozbot	Investor Group Seeks Court OK to Buy, Revive Bankrupt Bitcoin Exchange Mt. Gox - WSJ.com	[01:15]
jurov	need to find non paywalled article	[01:15]
los_pantalones	google the headline	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	jurov that's ok, that's the last anyone'll ever heard of that.	[01:16]
jurov	The investor group, which includes Brock Pierce, a former child actor-turned technology entrepreneur,	[01:16]
jurov	i think that's all i need to know	[01:16]
fluffypony	LOL	[01:16]
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fluffypony	from now on I'm going to tell people I"m a former child actor-turned technology entrepreneur	[01:17]
jurov	.. and investor with hollywood ties	[01:18]
dignork	well, for 1btc I'd buy it just for lulz	[01:18]
akstunt600	hahhah jurov	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	dignork you familiar with court supervised acquisitions ?	[01:18]
bounce	not me, explain away. why do they need an "investor group" to pony up one full bitcoin, given that they're not paying the debts outright but planning to pay'em back by running the thing anew?	[01:19]
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dignork	mircea_popescu, yes, not too deeply though. But I'd buy it only as "dignork", pgp key 8334BB7B5BDFA126	[01:20]
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samson_	I can't get over the fact that 'Chicago-based SilkRoad Equity' are involved in this...	[01:20]
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mircea_popescu	bounce you need to either pay upfront more than the judge evaluates the assets could conceivably fetch, or else execute a credible plan to deliver. and since this is examined by jurists rather than business people (and let alone forum fucktards) the estimates tend to be quite conservative.	[01:21]
akstunt600	samson_, I know right	[01:21]
fluffypony	samson_: I thought you were joking	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	there's a reason why noobs never succeed with these.	[01:21]
samson_	no joke	[01:21]
akstunt600	I dug that up to a while a go and was liek WTF	[01:21]
fluffypony	I know	[01:21]
fluffypony	http://www.silkroadequity.com	[01:21]
bounce	oh to start a company and requiring all titles to have "derp" in them somewhere.	[01:22]
fluffypony	Chief Derper	[01:23]
fluffypony	or Herpiest Derper	[01:23]
bounce	conservative as in generous?	[01:23]
cazalla	not surprising to see someone like Brock Pierce involved given his history with RMT, he's the 2nd person I've come across in bitcoin that I knew of before Bitcoin, first being voorhees from wickedfire heh	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	no, conservative as in "where did you go to school ?" and other anathema mp-esque questions the child actors of this world abhor.	[01:24]
dignork	bounce, not for the buyer	[01:24]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: do they use a jury for financial stuff as well??? geeze...:/	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony no, but that makes it worse.	[01:24]
bounce	"higher than a bargaining businessman would-be buyer would bid", then.	[01:24]
fluffypony	oh	[01:24]
fluffypony	I misread your sentence	[01:24]
fluffypony	I thought you said examined by jurors	[01:24]
fluffypony	too much wine and it's 12:30am	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	jurists, ie, people of teh legal profession	[01:25]
fluffypony	yeah re-read it now :)	[01:25]
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bounce	ah. need to have an impressive name and such. so that's why this "child actor" got roped in.	[01:25]
jurov	i suspect hollywood wants to tap the drama	[01:26]
bounce	spendy drama quality drama	[01:26]
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akstunt600	hahhahha fluffypony I would like to annouce new chief operating derp	[01:26]
jborkl	http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140410_78_127Y/ < mircea much better	[01:26]
ozbot	WebPagetest Test Result - Dulles : www.bcoinnews.com - 04/10/14 22:25:40	[01:26]
cazalla	I think he did much more in RMT than h is child acting days tbh	[01:27]
fluffypony	akstunt600: also we need a Derp Scientist	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	cazalla what's rmt ?	[01:27]
akstunt600	yup yup	[01:27]
cazalla	real money trade	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	jborkl indeed	[01:27]
bounce	a Science Derpist	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	cazalla uh what is that ?	[01:27]
cazalla	chinese gold farming	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	oh oh.	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	mkay.	[01:28]
cazalla	he was THE guy back in the EQ days	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	and voorhees you say ?	[01:28]
cazalla	yeah wickedfire which is interesting because I read an article where you said it would attrack the internet marketing crowd and I say there thinking oh top kek that's me	[01:28]
bgupta	http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103374/mr-derp	[01:28]
ozbot	Mr. Derp - Video Clips - South Park Studios	[01:28]
cazalla	sat there, fuck i need a coffee	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	lol	[01:29]
fluffypony	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287653.msg6159630#msg6159630 <- they're still Heartbleed vulnerable	[01:31]
ozbot	FairProof.com - the simplest provably fair bitcoin multi-lottery (instant)	[01:31]
fluffypony	I even pm'd them to tell them	[01:31]
fluffypony	and then they announce a new SSL cert, wtf	[01:31]
bounce	now the race is on to see who can post their secret key here the first	[01:32]
bounce	s/here the/here/	[01:33]
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mircea_popescu	cazalla so what do you do, marketing wise ?	[01:34]
cazalla	nothing now, i just use to run spam blogs fill with adsense	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony my wicked heart smiled when the thing was announced and schneier had to write an article about how he is affected. i on the other side, did not.	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	cazalla that's been dead for a while.	[01:34]
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cazalla	panda/pengion killed it for me	[01:34]
fluffypony	cazalla: yeah, Google started loving content	[01:35]
cazalla	penguin even	[01:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00095797 = 14.5611 BTC [-]	[01:36]
cazalla	fluffypony: i wouldn't go that far, more like loving adwords and their pushing their own products into every profitable vertical	[01:36]
asciilifeform	what's the excuse for a blog using ssl anyway?	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "security"	[01:36]
asciilifeform	seekoority.	[01:36]
fluffypony	asciilifeform: aren't we moving towards SSL on everything forever?	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	no.	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	we are moving away from ssl and generally pki, and generally usg-crap. forever.	[01:37]
cazalla	still, never though indians writing 250 word articles for $3 would scale like it did	[01:37]
asciilifeform	as if ssl were useful if it worked as printed on the box.	[01:37]
fluffypony	this shit: https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere	[01:37]
cazalla	thought*.. going back to bed, damn baby crying all night and can't even focus on spelling	[01:37]
asciilifeform	all the noise people made about key escrow in the '90s - they swallowed it in the end regardless.	[01:37]
asciilifeform	all the buggers had to do was rename it 'pki'	[01:38]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform here's the thing : bitcoin finally creates the possibility for natural selection.	[01:38]
asciilifeform	a turd 'by any other name would smell as...'	[01:38]
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mircea_popescu	it matters not that ther world is full of mastodons as long as two mice are fucking somewhere.	[01:38]
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akstunt600	WOW mu bro just refunded 3 neptunes	[01:50]
akstunt600	WTF	[01:50]
akstunt600	Thats 30k in btc wow	[01:51]
akstunt600	he shorted from 1k btc rpice wow	[01:51]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[01:52]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 380.28, Best ask: 380.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 380.28, 24 hour volume: 43714.37060882, 24 hour low: 375.0, 24 hour high: 444.26, 24 hour vwap: 403.597670398	[01:52]
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MGK	Im selling a graded MS65 1bitcoin casacious coin, asking 1.5BTC.	[01:54]
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SatoshiJack	mp,tat -- you guys need to get some people building around atc! I've tried contacting the Brainwallet.org devs -- but no luck getting them to show atc some love...	[01:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.58 = 3.48 BTC [+]	[01:56]
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jurov	SatoshiJack: brainwallet should work with atc out of the box, no?	[01:57]
SatoshiJack	nope -- I don't think so -- no way to have it autogenerate based on the rules for atc... they will have to add support which would mean tweaking code for determinsitc wallets etc...	[01:59]
jurov	but atc has same rules as btc	[01:59]
benkay	different addresses, tho	[01:59]
jurov	how different?	[01:59]
benkay	what does your altcoin addr start with?	[02:00]
jurov	1	[02:00]
SatoshiJack	I will give you full details in a day or so -- we are going through the code now -- and figuring out what we have tobuild for it --- our big thing is -- how we generate address etc... I need to be able to generate like 1000 or so at a time -- and also to be able to submit transactions similar to how brainwallet.org works with blockchain.info for transaction submits...	[02:00]
benkay	huh	[02:00]
akstunt600	http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/	[02:01]
ozbot	Badger Badger Badger.com The Original Dancing Badgers!	[02:01]
benkay	coulda sworn they were different	[02:01]
akstunt600	thought you could use some cheering up	[02:01]
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benkay	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-f4gokRBs&list=PLBCFA347CE84FD2A9#t=151	[02:07]
ozbot	Mystery of Prince Rupert's Drop at 130,000 fps - Smarter Every Day 86 - YouTube	[02:07]
benkay	once upon a time i took 2nd place in physics for attempting to quantify polarization of light coming through a prd as a proxy for embedded stress	[02:08]
benkay	just look how fucking fast that thing tears itself apart	[02:08]
benkay	ha!	[02:09]
benkay	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-f4gokRBs&list=PLBCFA347CE84FD2A9#t=199	[02:09]
ozbot	Mystery of Prince Rupert's Drop at 130,000 fps - Smarter Every Day 86 - YouTube	[02:09]
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benkay	fractures move at like 1 mile/sec	[02:11]
benkay	wild stuff.	[02:11]
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Mats_cd03	cute	[02:25]
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blackwhite	so whats going on with btc? was it the australian bank that caused the drop?	[02:32]
midnightmagic	lol australian bank?	[02:33]
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midnightmagic	http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/10/bitcoin-dumped-by-national-australia-bank-as-too-risky ah you mean that. Lame.	[02:34]
ozbot	Bitcoin firms dumped by National Australia Bank as 'too risky' \| World news \| theguardian.com	[02:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00095797 = 7.8075 BTC [-]	[03:01]
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benkay	ops for assbot?	[03:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.047899 = 0.2874 BTC [+] {2}	[03:11]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[03:13]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 361.0, Best ask: 363.12, Bid-ask spread: 2.12000, Last trade: 363.12, 24 hour volume: 49912.39410578, 24 hour low: 357.57, 24 hour high: 442.46, 24 hour vwap: 398.8274112	[03:13]
CheckDavid	Hi	[03:15]
CheckDavid	What is bitex?	[03:15]
CheckDavid	Exchange?	[03:15]
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benkay	http://www.bitex.com/ ?	[03:19]
ozbot	.:: BITEX.COM ::.	[03:19]
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CheckDavid	Maybe	[03:23]
CheckDavid	But it's in Russia	[03:23]
CheckDavid	And I thought the skin was British	[03:23]
benkay	why don't you bring the link	[03:24]
CheckDavid	Because I don't have	[03:24]
CheckDavid	I only heard about it	[03:24]
CheckDavid	Bitex ltd	[03:25]
kakobrekla	;;ticker	[03:25]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 357.04, Best ask: 357.58, Bid-ask spread: 0.54000, Last trade: 357.04, 24 hour volume: 50103.19440652, 24 hour low: 357.04, 24 hour high: 442.46, 24 hour vwap: 398.721153266	[03:25]
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CheckDavid	Skin = admin	[03:25]
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mircea_popescu	SatoshiJack there is really no diff between bitcoin and altcoin addy gen. same algo.	[03:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5603 @ 0.00095797 = 5.3675 BTC [-]	[03:28]
SatoshiJack	I hear ya mp... my issue is how to generate the transactions --- and send --- blockr does not provide -- but it's all good -- we are working around :)	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	there's an altcoind neh ?	[03:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58000001 BTC [+]	[03:30]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.58 = 11.6 BTC [-]	[03:32]
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MisterE	morning	[03:50]
MisterE	;;ticker ---market all	[03:50]
gribble	(ticker [--bid\|--ask\|--last\|--high\|--low\|--avg\|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market \|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)	[03:50]
MisterE	;;ticker --market all	[03:50]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 355.0, vol: 52651.69613421 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 349.721, vol: 41922.56088 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 354.64, vol: 45261.05802284 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 364.99, vol: 234.57248346 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 362.1216, vol: 8919.47740000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 353.75804, vol: 20.11537123 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 363.883873894, vol: 308.9653489 \| Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)	[03:50]
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jborkl_	Mircea , you see the mtgox news yet? Not that is any surprise	[04:04]
jborkl_	It is	[04:05]
minersdidit	karpeles get arrested?	[04:05]
benkay	nooz?	[04:08]
jborkl_	Mtgox possibly being bought	[04:10]
jborkl_	WSJ reported a couple hours ago	[04:11]
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mike_c	yes, was discussed.	[04:11]
minersdidit	bought you mean handed over	[04:12]
danielpbarron	does that mean all those GoxCoins are worth something after all?	[04:12]
MisterE	handed over in terms of "take my exchange, please"	[04:12]
minersdidit	bitcoin will probably be back to single digits by the time they settle that mess	[04:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11047 @ 0.00095797 = 10.5827 BTC [-]	[04:12]
kakobrekla	wont go below 2	[04:13]
minersdidit	lol	[04:13]
jborkl_	They would be assuming debt also	[04:13]
jborkl_	How much idk	[04:13]
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minersdidit	wasnt karpeles using it as his personal piggyback?	[04:15]
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mircea_popescu	jborkl it was here	[04:16]
minersdidit	bitcoins shitty economic algo killed the value	[04:18]
Duffer1	uh	[04:18]
Duffer1	oh hai guys	[04:19]
minersdidit	hai	[04:19]
danielpbarron	yeah the devs should have written it to give 50 billion units to their friends every month so it could be more like the dollar	[04:19]
minersdidit	bitcoin follows quantity theory of money which is flawed.	[04:19]
minersdidit	it will always have insane volatility. miners create 3600 coins even under falling demand	[04:20]
minersdidit	or when value rises theres no mechanism to supply the market	[04:20]
minersdidit	so you get insane ups and downs	[04:20]
danielpbarron	so?	[04:20]
minersdidit	impossible to use as settlement	[04:20]
minersdidit	youll have persistent periods of hyper deflation and hyper inflation like now	[04:21]
danielpbarron	so?	[04:21]
minersdidit	makes it useless	[04:21]
danielpbarron	to you, maybe	[04:21]
danielpbarron	I find it to be very useful; I'm not alone	[04:21]
danielpbarron	i'd rather have a volitile good money than a stable bad money	[04:22]
minersdidit	yea you arent very bright. the economics are flawed you have insane costs	[04:22]
minersdidit	its not about price stability that is absurd as well	[04:22]
minersdidit	you have no mechanisms that respond to market demands for money	[04:22]
danielpbarron	i guess you've never been to #bitcoin-otc	[04:22]
minersdidit	whats a trading post got to do with anything lol	[04:23]
danielpbarron	there are 629 mechanisms in there	[04:23]
minersdidit	money has to be elastic it cant be static ie linear	[04:23]
danielpbarron	why?	[04:23]
Duffer1	i don't see how you can say that when nothing like bitcoin has existed before	[04:23]
minersdidit	sure it has	[04:24]
minersdidit	100% gold standard did the exact same thing	[04:24]
Duffer1	instant, secure, worldwide, private value transmission does not = gold	[04:24]
minersdidit	danielpbarron: because economies are fractals they arent linear	[04:24]
danielpbarron	what does that even mean	[04:24]
minersdidit	im not argueing the superior technicalities	[04:24]
minersdidit	im argueing the flawed economics behind the coin creation	[04:25]
minersdidit	ie the supply	[04:25]
danielpbarron	you aren't doing a very good job	[04:25]
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danielpbarron	i'm trying to understand you	[04:25]
mike_c	what money are you talking about? m1?	[04:25]
minersdidit	when the market demands for money increase bitcoin has no mechanism to supply it and vice versa	[04:25]
Duffer1	you mean you're ignoring the technical superiority in favor of your baseless assertions	[04:25]
minersdidit	its based on quantity theory	[04:25]
minersdidit	my assertions are baseless look at the price goes from 80 to 1200 back down	[04:26]
minersdidit	that will always occur	[04:26]
danielpbarron	minersdidit: the things you are saying are not true	[04:26]
minersdidit	making it impossible to use as settlement.	[04:26]
Duffer1	"that will always occur because.. gold"?	[04:26]
danielpbarron	bitcoin does indeed have many meechanisms to supply	[04:26]
minersdidit	danielpbarron of course they are true. we can observe it occuring	[04:26]
minersdidit	miners create coins regardless of market needs for them, this increases volatility when they drain the liquidity pools	[04:27]
danielpbarron	you must have your eyes closed then, because there are tens of thousands of "mechanisms"	[04:27]
minersdidit	no there arent.	[04:27]
minersdidit	hence the insane volatility	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	minersdidit who are you exactly ?	[04:27]
danielpbarron	you are making the argument that a central bank knows better than a decentralized network	[04:27]
minersdidit	a troll	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	a ok. carry on.	[04:27]
minersdidit!@	added to ignore list.	[04:27]
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Duffer1	anyways have you guys heard the great news?	[04:28]
danielpbarron	even if the central bank was better at stabilizing prices (it isn't) that wouldn't make up for the corruption inherent in giving that much power to one authority	[04:28]
Duffer1	for only 11,200 btc you can be the proud owners of 40% of YET ANOTHER havelol startup	[04:29]
Duffer1	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565415.0	[04:29]
ozbot	[HAVELOCK] AlcheMiner Scrypt ASIC IPO Friday April 11	[04:29]
danielpbarron	well then start making sense	[04:29]
danielpbarron	i can't read your mind	[04:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00096211 = 6.3018 BTC [+] {2}	[04:30]
danielpbarron	ok so you want something like bitcoin, but with.. more inflation? or a backdoor to let devs tweak the block reward?	[04:30]
danielpbarron	yeah and i'll buy them	[04:30]
danielpbarron	problem solved	[04:30]
Duffer1	minersdidit when the market needs bitcoin theres no mechanism to supply them >>> you work for money, that's the mechanism	[04:31]
Duffer1	why would it issue more than you work for?	[04:31]
Duffer1	simply because the market wants it to?	[04:31]
TestingUnoDosTre	there are so many fucking bitcoins dropping	[04:31]
Duffer1	your work is worth x btc	[04:31]
benkay	i;ll price my work quite happily in btc	[04:32]
benkay	.5/hr	[04:32]
Duffer1	it's worth x btc, what people choose to price that in fiat is a separate matter	[04:32]
danielpbarron	idk, i think these only appear to be problems to individuals who still have a foot in FIAT	[04:32]
danielpbarron	if all your inputs and outputs are BTC, you wouldn't notice so much	[04:33]
benkay	the other side is that i know the fraction of the monetary reserve my work is worth	[04:33]
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mike_c	curious, where would you have "stabilized" the price? $1? $10?	[04:33]
benkay	i find that rather satisfying.	[04:33]
danielpbarron	then why bother mentioning it	[04:34]
mike_c	try speaking english, that will help.	[04:34]
Duffer1	minersdidit and im not talking about fiat price >> yes you are, your btc work will always be worth x btc, the only volatility is fiat market pricing of that work	[04:34]
benkay	thats beyond your primitive understanding to even bother explaining << tiberius move, iirc	[04:35]
mike_c	actually 5% gold 95% tungsten	[04:35]
benkay	claim, claim, claim, wait for sucker to bite, argue, say 'you're too stupid for me to possibly explain this'	[04:35]
Duffer1	hehe	[04:35]
danielpbarron	the old states used to water down the gold coins; nothing new under the sun	[04:36]
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benkay	government will always dilute the currency, given the opportunity.	[04:36]
benkay	luckily it doesn't matter	[04:36]
benkay	i can wait 10 years	[04:36]
danielpbarron	yeah i'm not worried	[04:36]
benkay	if it's still blow stamps for kiddies at that point, no big.	[04:37]
benkay	i have resource streams.	[04:37]
mike_c	my bitcoin is still worth a bitcoin. except the ones i lost on that stupid $400 bitbet.	[04:37]
benkay	HAW	[04:37]
benkay	no, those are still worth 1B too.	[04:37]
benkay	sounds like a bubble, minersdidit	[04:37]
danielpbarron	lol benkay	[04:37]
danielpbarron	so???	[04:38]
benkay	how is the subsidy different and the txn value the same?	[04:38]
danielpbarron	minersdidit: do you know how much wealth is wasted running the current financial system?	[04:38]
Duffer1	you're pricing mining activity in fiat?	[04:38]
benkay	miners got paid 25 bitcoin to move some other number of btc around, plus txn fees	[04:38]
Duffer1	i price it in btc...	[04:39]
benkay	lose everything buying at 1200, minersdidit ?	[04:39]
Duffer1	since that's the reward for doing the work..	[04:39]
benkay	now or then?	[04:39]
benkay	eh	[04:40]
benkay	still not really caring.	[04:40]
steven-__	not sure im following you minersdidit	[04:40]
mike_c	is there any fiat demand? who wants fiat?	[04:40]
Duffer1	coin generation, network security are work as well	[04:40]
danielpbarron	minersdidit: there is a lot of wealth that will be fleeing FIAT soon, and it will choose Bitcoin	[04:41]
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danielpbarron	well that's my bet	[04:41]
danielpbarron	ok, that statement seems to completely contradict the other stuff you've been saying	[04:41]
Duffer1	capital flight will seek precious metals and other solid commodities imo, btc a bit too	[04:41]
danielpbarron	either there is too much BTC or not enough? which is it?	[04:42]
TestingUnoDosTre	mike_c, at least you didn't almost lose .5 btc at the last minute like this guy <-----	[04:42]
benkay	so make the perfect alt	[04:42]
mike_c	TestingUnoDosTre: um, i actually lost. seems worse than almost lost :)	[04:42]
benkay	with elastic supply	[04:42]
TestingUnoDosTre	i lost, and I also lost the 1% by trying to bid last minute	[04:43]
akstunt600	benkay, i agree	[04:43]
akstunt600	that would be nice	[04:43]
akstunt600	but how?	[04:43]
akstunt600	lol	[04:43]
benkay	economy is a fractal yo	[04:43]
akstunt600	true	[04:43]
Duffer1	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5wGgVWvluk	[04:43]
ozbot	The 10 Most Insane Things You Didn't Know About the Universe \| Marvels of the Science \| Episode 6 -	[04:43]
akstunt600	Fucking miners	[04:44]
akstunt600	oops wait im a miner	[04:44]
benkay	lay off the entheogens, kid.	[04:44]
akstunt600	lol	[04:44]
TestingUnoDosTre	hahahha	[04:44]
Duffer1	this whole conversation >.<	[04:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2771 @ 0.00095723 = 2.6525 BTC [-]	[04:44]
benkay	resorts to ad hominems	[04:44]
danielpbarron	i'm starting to get what you are saying, minersdidit, but I still don't agree	[04:44]
akstunt600	minersdidit, Sooo that why dogecoin is better?	[04:45]
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danielpbarron	exactly, 5 years old... that isn't very long ago	[04:45]
akstunt600	very very young	[04:45]
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danielpbarron	well it only took the dollar a century to lose most of its value; Bitcoin's looking pretty good	[04:46]
akstunt600	danielpbarron, hahhah so true	[04:46]
MGK	anyone interested in buying a graded MS65 1btc coin?	[04:46]
TestingUnoDosTre	wtf is that	[04:46]
danielpbarron	i've never seen Bitcoin lose most its value, but I wasn't around for that first MtGox hack	[04:47]
MGK	a casacious coin?	[04:47]
MGK	never heard of those?	[04:47]
TestingUnoDosTre	like a coin that you can hack by pealing off the adhesive?	[04:48]
danielpbarron	that's not most, and that's also an exageration	[04:48]
benkay	say we clear back to 10	[04:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03587424 = 0.7175 BTC [+] {7}	[04:49]
benkay	it's lost none of its value.	[04:49]
benkay	the crypto's still rock solid.	[04:49]
benkay	the txn net is stronger than ever.	[04:49]
benkay	the fundamentals remain.	[04:49]
benkay	fiat pricing silliness has not and never will matter.	[04:50]
TestingUnoDosTre	alright, but if you had 10 dollars waiting to invest in bitcoin last week, versus today, how much more bitcoin would it buy benkay?	[04:50]
benkay	make this argument in a decade.	[04:50]
TestingUnoDosTre	totally not a legitimate argument	[04:50]
benkay	not you, TestingUnoDosTre	[04:50]
benkay	the "it's crazy vix week dot butts! bitcoin is useless!" argument.	[04:51]
TestingUnoDosTre	bitcoin utility hasn't budged a bit, but the value has most definitely dropped	[04:51]
danielpbarron	i think multi sig already exists	[04:51]
benkay	see now jump to a new topic, a new stupid claim	[04:51]
benkay	utility != price, price != value	[04:52]
benkay	ffs	[04:52]
benkay	yeah it's expensive and hard to get. what of it?	[04:52]
benkay	so is good blow.	[04:52]
danielpbarron	this is ridiculous, it's open source; if the devs really did suck (arguable..) then new ones will sprout up	[04:52]
benkay	reference client isn't the only client	[04:53]
benkay	conformal do you even?	[04:53]
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danielpbarron	minersdidit: maybe	[04:53]
danielpbarron	who paid satoshi?	[04:53]
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danielpbarron	so who will pay future devs?	[04:54]
Duffer1	minersdidit nobody pays them to sprout up >> have you heard of github?	[04:54]
benkay	github.com/conformal/btcd	[04:54]
benkay	next.	[04:54]
benkay	read the conformal source. next.	[04:54]
TestingUnoDosTre	laughable at best ^	[04:55]
TestingUnoDosTre	omfg	[04:55]
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TestingUnoDosTre	amateur?!?!	[04:55]
danielpbarron	there is probably some truth to that one (re: amateurs from dotcom)	[04:55]
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TestingUnoDosTre	how quickly was an openSSL bug patched in the bitcoin community when released	[04:55]
danielpbarron	yeah, I read all about them on bitcointalk lol	[04:56]
TestingUnoDosTre	how long will the openSSL bug persist in everyday use?	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	so are we getting a proposal on how to fix bitcoin or noit just yet ?	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	TestingUnoDosTre prolly a year or so	[04:56]
danielpbarron	lolol ^^	[04:56]
BCB	mircea_popescu, did you see that new paper about regulation	[04:56]
BCB	you were mentioned	[04:56]
danielpbarron	yeah get to the point and write your new superbitcoin already, minersdidit	[04:56]
TestingUnoDosTre	which paper	[04:56]
BCB	looking	[04:57]
benkay	princessnell's, most likely.	[04:57]
danielpbarron	minersdidit: then stfu	[04:57]
benkay	k great thanks	[04:57]
benkay	yup great awesome	[04:57]
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Trader1333	hi guys	[04:57]
benkay	.bait	[04:57]
ozbot	http://37.media.tumblr.com/c0ffb11b384a31510c604f6647dbeb6f/tumblr_mwdjdeeU8g1r5peaqo1_1280.jpg	[04:57]
Trader1333	i am wondering if there is a way to buy future contracts for BTC?	[04:58]
danielpbarron	if you want to rile bitcoiners up with that line, go to #bitcoin-dev	[04:58]
TestingUnoDosTre	;;google bitcoin future	[04:58]
gribble	Bitcoin's future: Hidden flipside \| The Economist: ; Felix Salmon – The Bitcoin Bubble and the Future of Currency ...: ; Bitcoin: The Currency Of The (1 more message)	[04:58]
Trader1333	trying to acquire either 5 BTC weekly or $2500.	[04:58]
Trader1333	worth	[04:58]
BCB	TestingUnoDosTre, it's linked here: http://techliberation.com/2014/04/10/our-new-draft-paper-on-bitcoin-financial-regulation-securities-derivatives-prediction-markets-gambling/	[04:58]
Trader1333	willing to do a legally binding agreement of such and put forth my car as compensation should it cost too much	[04:58]
danielpbarron	Trader1333: you sure about that? I hear Bitcoin is too volitile to be worth anything	[04:59]
Trader1333	i see BTC dropping to $100 but i dont care i need BTC weekly and constant. i need a way to buy BTC and i dont care if it goes to $10k or $1 im buying same amount weekly	[04:59]
danielpbarron	hah, I live really close to the last conference and I didn't go (or even hear about it)	[04:59]
Duffer1	i'm reminded of krugman's 'why the internet will never be popular' thesis..	[04:59]
Trader1333	i flip it weekly and make good margins. hell i make more than someone as a general manager of a fast food joint and i only do it for 5 hours a week roughly.	[04:59]
TestingUnoDosTre	i see no mention of mp	[05:00]
danielpbarron	minersdidit: i agree with you there	[05:00]
Trader1333	problem is this stupid market no one wants to sell. so i figured if i offered a contract to buy at 1% above bitstamp the same amount every week, month to month contract, there would be some interest.	[05:00]
BCB	TestingUnoDosTre, it is in the attached paper http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2423461	[05:00]
Trader1333	dont have time for the stupid market volatility.	[05:00]
benkay	that's for damn sure.	[05:01]
TestingUnoDosTre	***than	[05:01]
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Duffer1	andreas?	[05:02]
benkay	new, unrelated tangent...	[05:02]
benkay	kakobrekla: ping	[05:02]
TestingUnoDosTre	huh?	[05:02]
kakobrekla	pong	[05:03]
benkay	fun trollage in here this afternoon	[05:03]
kakobrekla	yeah well it is what it is.	[05:03]
benkay	what's ignore?	[05:03]
Trader1333	know its not the place, but if anyone wishes to sell 6.6 BTC let me know. or a contract to buy $2500 on Monday at whatever bitstamp +1% is.	[05:04]
Duffer1	trader1333 #bitcoin-otc	[05:04]
Trader1333	go to OTC where its a bunch of circle jerkers no thank you. oh and escrow is required.	[05:05]
benkay	;;gettrust Trader1333	[05:05]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Trader1333: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Trader1333 \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Trader1333 \| Rated since: never	[05:05]
benkay	well with trust like that	[05:05]
benkay	surely you're familiar with a search bar, minersdidit	[05:06]
Trader1333	@benkay who cares about trust, we use an escrow. cash deposit, moneypak, whatever method you need.	[05:07]
Trader1333	i dont come on IRC after i got thrown out for basically buying and wouldnt accept the chatroom's escrow.	[05:07]
Trader1333	then got called a scammer and such.	[05:07]
benkay	good plan	[05:07]
benkay	run up into a foreigners bar	[05:07]
Trader1333	i only use members of bitcointalk such as DannyHamilton, Tomatocage, escrow.ms, etc.	[05:07]
benkay	"TREAT ME LIKE THEY DO BACK HOME RAAARGH"	[05:07]
benkay	get beat	[05:07]
benkay	"THEY'RE MEAN!"	[05:07]
MGK	who are you on bitcointalk forum?	[05:08]
Trader1333	LOL scammers. what a joke.	[05:08]
danielpbarron	everyone is a scammer if you give them enough time or money.. except me! you can trust me	[05:08]
Trader1333	does anyone know a place in BTC that sells futures for BTC price?	[05:08]
Trader1333	i need a way to lock in prices when i buy or get buy order fulfilled.	[05:09]
Trader1333	hm	[05:09]
TestingUnoDosTre	bitforex	[05:09]
TestingUnoDosTre	scamtopia	[05:09]
Trader1333	i have no interest in getting out of the trade.	[05:09]
Trader1333	im looking for a way that i can preserve my USD investment value.	[05:09]
MGK	lol	[05:09]
Trader1333	i buy BTC on coinbase and want the same USD value come friday whether the value of BTC has gone up 100% or down to $1.	[05:10]
TestingUnoDosTre	*for a preciious premium	[05:10]
Trader1333	personally i see BTC dropping to $100 anyways	[05:11]
Trader1333	but like i said, i am not an investor in BTC at anything over $100. im only a mover.	[05:11]
Trader1333	i need constant BTC coming in which is what is slowing things down right now as this stupid bullshit pyramid scheme basically market was quickly raised to $1100 and now people think itd actually go back, ha.	[05:12]
benkay	?	[05:12]
benkay	more like a clown	[05:12]
Trader1333	Pump and dump and everyone fell for it and people still fail to see itl lol.	[05:12]
benkay	court jester, if you will.	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	BCB no ?	[05:13]
BCB	mircea_popescu, linked above	[05:13]
Trader1333	Popescu do you offer a way I can hedge a BTC purchase I make every week on Monday so that it remains the same USD value whether it goes up or down...a futures contract if you will.	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	Trader1333 probably not. you have no wot and generally, nobody gives a shit.	[05:14]
Trader1333	dont care about WOT willing to meet in person if need be and sign contract binding my car to failure to pay. i buy 5 BTC weekly or $2500 every week, month to month contracts.	[05:14]
Trader1333	car worth 3x that.	[05:15]
TestingUnoDosTre	where is your moms house / where do you live Trader1333?	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	you'll pay whatever it costs whenever you find anyone willing to sell yoiu some. if you ever do.	[05:15]
Trader1333	DC	[05:15]
TestingUnoDosTre	sorry no can do, I'm midwest mang	[05:15]
Trader1333	hell ill escrow the following week's payments too.	[05:15]
TestingUnoDosTre	I only deal in straight cash, homay	[05:16]
Trader1333	not against escrow, just wish i had options. i would use coinbase instant buy but they changed their bullshit to only being visa credit cards for backing the account.	[05:16]
Trader1333	i only have mastercard credit cards.	[05:16]
Trader1333	as do i testing.	[05:16]
TestingUnoDosTre	go to bitcoin-otc	[05:16]
danielpbarron	he probably got banned from there already	[05:17]
Trader1333	$2400 cash in hand last 4 days and willing to buy BTC at bitstamp +1% and have it in hand same day. Its impossible. When market rising and things good could find it all the time.	[05:17]
thestringpuller	Trader1333: get in the WoT dude...	[05:17]
thestringpuller	stop being a n00b	[05:17]
TestingUnoDosTre	bitstamp +1% isn't even a deal	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	BCB what's unclear to me is why are any of those three people qualified to opine on regulation.	[05:17]
MGK	you sound like a total scammer	[05:17]
benkay	plus cash sucks, Trader1333, gotta go with moneypak	[05:17]
Trader1333!@	added to ignore list.	[05:17]
thestringpuller	minersdidit: how is ThickAsThieves a scammer?	[05:18]
thestringpuller	;;gettrust ThickAsThieves	[05:18]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=ThickAsThieves \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ThickAsThieves \| Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013	[05:18]
benkay	kinda weak wot.	[05:18]
MGK	trader1333 scamming since 1994	[05:19]
thestringpuller	minersdidit: he reapid XBOND, people made that a bubble and ruined it	[05:20]
thestringpuller	so are you	[05:20]
benkay	IMPASSE	[05:21]
BCB	mircea_popescu, someon has to do it. Speculating about bitcoin is a cottage industry	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	aok.	[05:21]
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MGK	BCB buy this MS65 1BTC coin from me I got from NightOwl	[05:23]
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TestingUnoDosTre	why the fuck would anybody buy "physical" bitcoin	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	novelty	[05:26]
BCB	an they I love physical bitcoin.	[05:26]
BCB	There are some nice ones out there	[05:26]
TestingUnoDosTre	they literally can be stolen	[05:26]
BCB	But I already have too many	[05:26]
danielpbarron	I almost did and then the next day some hacker figured out a way to get the key without ruining the sticker	[05:27]
BCB	The Silver Bitcoin Wallets are nice	[05:27]
MGK	yeah I sold a .5 to blazedout and looking to sell this one too	[05:27]
MGK	but this ones in a ANAC case	[05:27]
BCB	I only collect 10 and 100 BTC coins	[05:27]
BCB	perferably gold	[05:28]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15474 @ 0.00095701 = 14.8088 BTC [-] {2}	[05:33]
BCB	mostly casascius coin. I have a few Titians and a Silver Wallet.	[05:35]
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MisterE	sigh gonna be a long log to catch up on today :)	[05:37]
MisterE	TestingUnoDosTre: numismatic value :p	[05:38]
Duffer1	misere you can probably skip the bit where minersdidit starts talking up through now, nothing of value imo	[05:38]
TestingUnoDosTre	is that like the value of the penny after they stopped using copper?	[05:38]
Duffer1	mistere.. dat frued slip do	[05:39]
MisterE	haha, both of you	[05:39]
MisterE	:)	[05:39]
Duffer1	we can't all be beuatiful	[05:40]
Duffer1	or good spellers	[05:40]
MisterE	probably have more holdings tho :p	[05:40]
MisterE	I know terrible metric	[05:40]
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MisterE	trollol	[05:42]
ozbot	The sins of the group of posers behind the so called “Bitcoin Foundation” pe Trilema - Un blog d	[05:42]
TestingUnoDosTre	wheres the ignore button	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	TestingUnoDosTre /ignore nick ALL	[05:42]
MisterE	!	[05:43]
TestingUnoDosTre	hahaha	[05:43]
MisterE	trollharder.jpg	[05:43]
MisterE	minersdidit: they would really benefit from your wealth of knowledge in the BTCe chatbox	[05:43]
TestingUnoDosTre	hahaha	[05:44]
Duffer1	lmao	[05:44]
MGK	all honesty bitcoin is stupid slow	[05:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.000145 = 2.175 BTC [-] {3}	[05:44]
TestingUnoDosTre	in all honesty, stocks are stupid slow	[05:44]
TestingUnoDosTre	it takes me lieeeeeek 3 days to sell it and get fiat to my bank	[05:45]
benkay	real world is slow anyways	[05:45]
MGK	it takes like 3 days for me to send bitcoin	[05:45]
TestingUnoDosTre	you need to upgrade your subscription to aol	[05:45]
MisterE	MGK: stop being a tight ass and include some tx fee it will be instant	[05:45]
MisterE	lol AOL	[05:46]
MGK	yeah I cashed out from ghash 30mins ago	[05:46]
danielpbarron	bitcoin is slow????? try getting your FIAT in 30 minutes	[05:46]
MisterE	you can, Western Union but you will pay dearly for it	[05:47]
MGK	if btc was so great I wouldnt need FIAT	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	sepa is about five minutes.	[05:47]
danielpbarron	if you need FIAT then why do you want BTC??	[05:47]
MisterE	true there is also SWIFT	[05:47]
danielpbarron	minersdidit: that's still FIAT	[05:48]
TestingUnoDosTre	pretty sure I can send btc without an atm or a palm print	[05:48]
MisterE	btc finds them wherever they go with their wallet	[05:48]
danielpbarron	Bitcoin doesn't require a palm print; that's FIAT's doing	[05:48]
MGK	last block mined was 1hr 13min ago	[05:49]
MGK	lmao	[05:49]
danielpbarron	WU charges like 16 bucks	[05:49]
MGK	bitcoins dead yo	[05:49]
danielpbarron	you keep criticizing Bitcoin for FIAT's problems	[05:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00583999 = 0.584 BTC [-]	[05:50]
MisterE	you've yet to articulate an accurate problem that I've seen	[05:51]
*	danielpbarron slaps himself	[05:51]
MisterE	they are infinitely divisible	[05:51]
MGK	LOL	[05:51]
MisterE	you're probably right	[05:51]
TestingUnoDosTre	holy shit 1 hr 13 minutes	[05:51]
MisterE	no sense wasting your time here with a failed technology eh?	[05:52]
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MisterE	how abotu moving along	[05:52]
MGK	I just said that testing	[05:52]
MGK	bitcoin is dead yo	[05:52]
danielpbarron	I wonder if a bunch of miners turned off their rigs with the price dip	[05:52]
MGK	I wish	[05:52]
MGK	but that wont be the case ever	[05:52]
TestingUnoDosTre	i hope so because I bet that it won't get over 9b in may :D	[05:52]
MisterE	danielpbarron: thats exactly what happend	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	http://pando.com/2014/04/10/wtf-healbe-scampaign-reaches-1m-thanks-to-undisclosed-contribution-from-indiegogos-hardware-chief/	[05:53]
danielpbarron	it costs electricity, minersdidit	[05:53]
ozbot	WTF? Healbe scampaign reaches $1m thanks to undisclosed contribution from Indiegogo’s hardware chi	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	indiegogo goes havelock lol	[05:53]
MGK	and GHAH mines the block	[05:53]
danielpbarron	minersdidit: there is a very predictable price point at which miners are better off buying BTC rather than buying electricity to mine	[05:53]
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danielpbarron	minersdidit: right, but that has nothing to do with operating costs	[05:55]
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danielpbarron	hey i'm not saying mining isn't scammy	[05:58]
danielpbarron	i think buying mining equipment is stupid	[05:58]
Duffer1	i'm trying not to, everything you've said is so wrong in so many ways it's giving me a headache	[05:58]
TestingUnoDosTre	it's true though	[05:59]
TestingUnoDosTre	please perform a calculation with known hardware at current difficulty and electricity costs minersdidit	[05:59]
danielpbarron	my income is BTC denominated	[05:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00095807 = 11.5926 BTC [+] {2}	[05:59]
danielpbarron	trying to start a Bitcoin business lol	[05:59]
Duffer1	also calculate how much is being sold vs how much isn't	[06:00]
TestingUnoDosTre	I know algebra is difficult	[06:00]
danielpbarron	you are totally wrong there, minersdidit	[06:00]
TestingUnoDosTre	it's TOTES for free	[06:00]
danielpbarron	right, miners are dumb, we agree there	[06:00]
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danielpbarron	yes, again, i agree	[06:01]
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danielpbarron	they might even have used that 20000% markup to buy BTC	[06:01]
danielpbarron	good for them, they deserve it	[06:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00095686 = 0.7655 BTC [-]	[06:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.03417221 = 0.9226 BTC [-] {11}	[06:02]
TestingUnoDosTre	now you're just going all minarchist on us	[06:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05141349 = 1.0283 BTC [-] {5}	[06:03]
TestingUnoDosTre	you could say the same thing about... anything with value	[06:03]
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TestingUnoDosTre	does everyone own equal amounts of oil	[06:04]
TestingUnoDosTre	how about gold	[06:04]
TestingUnoDosTre	real estate?	[06:04]
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TestingUnoDosTre	same thing with DOLLARS	[06:04]
danielpbarron	(read: taxes)	[06:04]
TestingUnoDosTre	and gold?	[06:04]
TestingUnoDosTre	please explain the great utility of gold to me	[06:05]
danielpbarron	BTC is needed to pay BTC debts off	[06:05]
benkay	what suckers have btc debts?	[06:05]
danielpbarron	wait what? gold is good for the same reason Bitcoin is bad??	[06:05]
benkay	give it 80 years, and bitcoin will be in the same position.	[06:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.05020911 = 1.6569 BTC [-] {5}	[06:05]
benkay	'cept of course send it to someone in argentina	[06:06]
[\]	can't do anything with a dollar	[06:06]
benkay	or colombia	[06:06]
TestingUnoDosTre	you seriosuly can't do much with gold	[06:06]
TestingUnoDosTre	sersly	[06:06]
TestingUnoDosTre	actually	[06:06]
TestingUnoDosTre	you can verify a certain hash of a file at a given time	[06:06]
nubbins`	;;ticker	[06:07]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 355.68, Best ask: 356.89, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 356.89, 24 hour volume: 61196.03807026, 24 hour low: 339.79, 24 hour high: 436.06, 24 hour vwap: 389.993712597	[06:07]
TestingUnoDosTre	and you can send a message	[06:07]
nubbins`	lel	[06:07]
MisterE	god has some industrial uses too	[06:07]
nubbins`	dat rate	[06:07]
TestingUnoDosTre	NUBBINS QUIT IT WITH ALL YOUR ;;TICKER S	[06:07]
MisterE	it's being consumed slowly	[06:07]
benkay	holy fuck that's a descent rate	[06:07]
nubbins`	TestingUnoDosTre: once is fine, spamming with it isn't ;)	[06:07]
[\]	who's the guy that keeps repeating the same statement over and over	[06:07]
[\]	oh, that's right, the troll	[06:07]
*	nubbins` yawns	[06:08]
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[\]	oh look, jackass that has to name himself after his argument so he doesn't forget	[06:08]
akstunt600	hahha [\] hey [\]	[06:08]
Duffer1	his earlier talk about quantum economics gave me hope of interesting discussion, i was dissapointed	[06:08]
TestingUnoDosTre	lol	[06:08]
[\]	minersdidit, gmaxwell has nothing to do with me	[06:08]
danielpbarron	lol, quantum economics	[06:08]
[\]	gladd to see you still have a mancrush	[06:08]
TestingUnoDosTre	laughing at duffer, for the record	[06:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.04918049 = 2.459 BTC [-] {4}	[06:08]
Duffer1	hehe	[06:08]
[\]	...No.	[06:09]
[\]	I do what I want, when I want. gmaxwell and I have no affiliation.	[06:09]
TestingUnoDosTre	what caused the flood of retard into this channel today?	[06:09]
[\]	TestingUnoDosTre, its easy to be a bear when there's a downtrend.	[06:09]
[\]	They all disappear during the bull markets.	[06:09]
MisterE	The troll is strong here today, must be the exchange price has brought it out	[06:09]
danielpbarron	i've never even used Bitcoin Core; who cares	[06:10]
MisterE	^ that	[06:10]
Duffer1	testing i was thinking it was one of the talk twitter heads mircea_popescu pissed off..	[06:10]
[\]	TestingUnoDosTre, MisterE, the trolls usually come out about now.	[06:10]
[\]	if you've been around for a few years, you notice the pattern.	[06:10]
akstunt600	wait untill newfag season	[06:10]
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MisterE	this is my first dip with the #-assets crew :)	[06:10]
Duffer1	i actually hope the same thing miners	[06:10]
[\]	Gavin hasn't left. He's just not the lead dev.	[06:10]
MisterE	fun fun	[06:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.04811428 = 1.684 BTC [-] {3}	[06:10]
[\]	MisterE, I'm sorry.	[06:10]
TestingUnoDosTre	samesies	[06:10]
benkay	by my count we're solidly in the middle of september, akstunt600	[06:11]
MisterE	wish it happened more often heh	[06:11]
akstunt600	hahahhaha benkay	[06:11]
MisterE	oh newfag season must be even teh worst	[06:11]
TestingUnoDosTre	please don't associate those two entities together	[06:11]
[\]	lol	[06:11]
MisterE	never even thought of it	[06:11]
danielpbarron	idk, i like a lot of what minersdidit says	[06:11]
[\]	the ignore list grows by one	[06:11]
TestingUnoDosTre	it's like comparing the Winkelvii brothers with satoshi	[06:12]
benkay	core dev team and btc fundation are pretty tightly aligned	[06:12]
MisterE	yea minersdidit is clearly not dumb	[06:12]
nubbins`	who's satoshi?	[06:12]
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TestingUnoDosTre	touche	[06:12]
benkay	who's nubbins` ?	[06:12]
[\]	minersdidit, quotation needed.	[06:12]
nubbins`	oooooo	[06:12]
benkay	ka-zong	[06:12]
nubbins`	who IS me?	[06:12]
benkay	who even ams you!	[06:12]
MisterE	Satishi Whogivesafuck	[06:12]
TestingUnoDosTre	;;whoami	[06:13]
gribble	I don't recognize you.	[06:13]
[\]	where did satoshi ever call Gavin a fucktard?	[06:13]
TestingUnoDosTre	:(	[06:13]
[\]	In fact, satoshi was the one that gave Gavin rights.	[06:13]
[\]	herpderp	[06:13]
[\]	You've got your info wrong, in traditional troll fashion.	[06:13]
[\]	but who needs facts	[06:13]
MisterE	minersdidit: why don't you code someting better	[06:14]
Duffer1	do you have any bitcoins minersdidit?	[06:14]
TestingUnoDosTre	has anyone been keeping tabs on any satoshi addesses, is s/he to blame for this downtrend?!?!?!	[06:14]
MisterE	easy to rip on others	[06:14]
[\]	.9 was barely exploitable.	[06:14]
MisterE	not so to create solutions	[06:14]
*	danielpbarron was completely uneffected by the "exploit"	[06:14]
[\]	and 2/3 of the internet was hit by it.	[06:14]
[\]	so to make a fuss becaues bitcoin was caught is rather stupid	[06:14]
[\]	because RPC over SSL isn't a bad thing.	[06:14]
ozbot	The sins of the group of posers behind the so called “Bitcoin Foundation” pe Trilema - Un blog d	[06:14]
Duffer1	do you have any bitcoins minersdidit?	[06:15]
danielpbarron	minersdidit: because a bunch of the devs are sucking up to FIAT and are trying to make Bitcoin jive well with the old system	[06:15]
TestingUnoDosTre	<---- lost all his bitcoins to Ukranian videochatters in 2010	[06:15]
[\]	Its easy to pull out quotes that are right when you make thousands of them. how about you point out all the quotes that were wrong?	[06:15]
[\]	shittons of false claims	[06:15]
[\]	keep making claims until one comes true	[06:15]
[\]	ala jesus	[06:15]
TestingUnoDosTre	lol	[06:15]
danielpbarron	can't say I don't wish I sold months ago	[06:16]
[\]	woah, did I outtroll the troll?	[06:16]
[\]	I think I did	[06:16]
TestingUnoDosTre	speaking of jesus... who's celebrating his resurrection this year with a fatty?	[06:16]
[\]	since he had to go back to his gmaxwell boner	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	TestingUnoDosTre no way they took btc in 2010 ?!	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	[\] dude you come on like once a year and then to argue with my ignore list. wtf is this.	[06:16]
[\]	mircea_popescu, isn't it past your bedtime?	[06:16]
[\]	:p	[06:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.048 = 0.48 BTC [-]	[06:16]
[\]	mircea_popescu: ikr	[06:17]
[\]	its the same troll	[06:17]
[\]	different nick	[06:17]
[\]	its cute , almost	[06:17]
benkay	must be spring break	[06:17]
[\]	probably some butthurt litecoin miner	[06:17]
benkay	tib, don't you have skirt to chase?	[06:17]
MisterE	Ukrainian cam girls on the BTC bleeding edge TestingUnoDosTre? I missed the golden age :/	[06:17]
TestingUnoDosTre	ok maybe it didn't happen. just remembered someone posting an old scam of some person scamming for some allaged underage european chicks accepting bitcoin for videochat	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	wasn't that... taaki ?	[06:18]
Panadol____	pankkake parseval paxtoncamaro91 Perlboy phf phish pizzaman1338 pLambert PsychoticBoy Pucilowski_ punkman	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	[\]'s other gf ?	[06:18]
TestingUnoDosTre	please pull up the article... it was hilarious	[06:19]
MisterE	plot thickens	[06:19]
*	[\] sets mode: +r	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointa.lk/threads/erotic-chat-by-skype.2703/?	[06:19]
TestingUnoDosTre	YESSSSSS	[06:20]
TestingUnoDosTre	anything goes!!!	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	guy's not russian, he just has some skin condition.	[06:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 44 @ 0.0447519 = 1.9691 BTC [-] {4}	[06:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.02818544 = 0.9865 BTC [-] {15}	[06:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0485 = 0.1455 BTC [+] {2}	[06:22]
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TestingUnoDosTre	this chat returned to normalcy after I ignored minersdidit :(	[06:23]
Duffer1	he stopped talking :P	[06:24]
akstunt600	TestingUnoDosTre, Oh good it wasnt just you	[06:24]
benkay	wait 'till minersdiditi through minersdiditxiv show up	[06:24]
akstunt600	He was ...... interesting	[06:24]
TestingUnoDosTre	hahhaha	[06:24]
akstunt600	fuck	[06:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0463675 = 0.2782 BTC [-] {3}	[06:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.025 = 0.275 BTC [-] {2}	[06:25]
[\]	see you in a year	[06:25]
TestingUnoDosTre	noooo!	[06:25]
akstunt600	hahhahha	[06:25]
[\]	akstunt600: so much more fun than pricetalk, eh?	[06:25]
akstunt600	yes	[06:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.04547002 = 0.5911 BTC [-] {5}	[06:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4827 @ 0.00014999 = 0.724 BTC [+] {2}	[06:26]
akstunt600	and more intelligible convos	[06:26]
akstunt600	I love it	[06:26]
MisterE	"exchanger_006: is it a good time to buy now guys? its looking like a huge pump?" // exchanger_006, Just burn your money you will at least get some BTUs out of it that way.	[06:26]
TestingUnoDosTre	alright but one thing he did mention that I was picturing last night was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_and_flow	[06:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 805 @ 0.00079999 = 0.644 BTC [+] {2}	[06:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.025 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2}	[06:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 179 @ 0.00084998 = 0.1521 BTC [+] {2}	[06:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58998 BTC [+]	[06:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.04500003 = 0.315 BTC [-]	[06:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.025 = 0.25 BTC [-]	[06:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 325 @ 0.0075 = 2.4375 BTC [+]	[06:29]
MisterE	;;later tell minersdidit http://imgur.com/gallery/LdXYO9d	[06:29]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[06:29]
TestingUnoDosTre	hahahahah	[06:30]
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MisterE	:)	[06:31]
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TestingUnoDosTre	I want to buy more bitcoin, but I was a tid bit too impatient over the last couple weeks. Thoughts, words, advice?	[06:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [+]	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	http://dpaste.com/1776187/	[06:36]
ozbot	dpaste: #1776187	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	srsly ? coincrack ?	[06:36]
ozbot	Eulorum	[06:37]
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Duffer1	i don't see a need to hate on eulora	[06:40]
Duffer1	interesting	[06:42]
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Duffer1	that's unfortunately true	[06:42]
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TestingUnoDosTre	can't believe I never have watched Huobi on bitcoinwisdom... this is like btcCrack	[06:47]
MisterE	heh fake orders are fake	[06:48]
MisterE	they get pulled so much	[06:49]
MisterE	750k LTC in 30 min yea right!	[06:49]
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steven-__	btc china guys brother made ltc	[06:49]
MisterE	thoght bobby did	[06:49]
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MisterE	haha so true	[06:50]
akstunt600	http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/22qr28/no_profit_there_may_be_a_way_through_market_cap/	[06:50]
akstunt600	lol at that	[06:50]
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akstunt600	i had to comment	[06:50]
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akstunt600	ohhh minersdidit i think your touching on one of my theories	[06:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9155 @ 0.00096132 = 8.8009 BTC [+] {2}	[06:51]
akstunt600	I think okcoin and huobi are in on it with CB	[06:51]
akstunt600	well less CB and more Charles lees	[06:51]
akstunt600	and others	[06:51]
akstunt600	like caleb chen etc	[06:52]
akstunt600	minersdidit, thats wha im saying they are gibling up cheap coins	[06:52]
akstunt600	yup	[06:52]
akstunt600	heh	[06:52]
akstunt600	i use cryptsy	[06:53]
akstunt600	its small but it works	[06:53]
akstunt600	im small tho so its suiting	[06:53]
akstunt600	they will shortly	[06:53]
akstunt600	im stuuck on CB until then	[06:53]
MisterE	btce here	[06:53]
akstunt600	but again thats not even an exchange really	[06:53]
MisterE	for dodgy Bulgarians :p	[06:53]
akstunt600	hahhahah yup	[06:54]
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akstunt600	pretty ridiculous	[06:56]
akstunt600	its here	[06:58]
akstunt600	you wont see it on the exchanges tho	[06:58]
akstunt600	;-)	[06:58]
MisterE	Vodaphone processes most of those now	[06:59]
MisterE	moves most of the money via mobile phone for rural South Africans I was reading recently	[06:59]
MisterE	not the country but the continent	[06:59]
akstunt600	they trade phone card and minutes before bitcoin tho	[06:59]
MisterE	yes	[07:00]
MisterE	but people are looking at challenging them in that market using the BTC network for processing	[07:00]
MisterE	iirc	[07:00]
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Duffer1	mpesa and kipochii	[07:00]
MisterE	as usual the fees are regressive for the poor who need it the most	[07:00]
HeySteve	Bitcoin is difficult to introduce to people with poor computing skills	[07:01]
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MisterE	sure it is if people beleve the text messages	[07:02]
MisterE	so does fiat	[07:02]
mircea_popescu	arguable if the very poor need it more than the not-as-very-poor anyway	[07:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.0009623 = 15.06 BTC [+]	[07:02]
HeySteve	cellular infrastructure in africa is surprisingly good	[07:02]
benkay	bitcoin for remittances is a decade early if you're talking about sending btc to farmers.	[07:03]
benkay	bitcoin for remittances might just work if you have good connections and keep your books totally dialed.	[07:03]
benkay	capitalize both offices with local fiat and local btc, keep track of how much it costs to replenish both coffers, adjust rate accordingly.	[07:03]
benkay	none of this real time exchange nonsense.	[07:04]
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MisterE	you don't need it you just keep their wallets secure for them the way Vodaphone manages their fiat balances	[07:04]
HeySteve	minersdidit, I realise you are just one of those people but in the interests of advancing the debate, light wallets do exist	[07:04]
HeySteve	profit	[07:06]
steven-__	why would someone in afrcia want m pesa	[07:06]
benkay	over btc? no need to have a crazy blow stamp wallet.	[07:06]
steven-__	thats just not true	[07:07]
HeySteve	no	[07:07]
akstunt600	minersdidit, I dont think you understand currency in Africa	[07:07]
akstunt600	They use miinutes	[07:07]
akstunt600	like phone minutes	[07:07]
MisterE	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Pesa	[07:07]
akstunt600	lolol	[07:07]
ozbot	M-Pesa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[07:07]
kanzure	nobody is transferring $1M using phone minutes	[07:07]
akstunt600	before mpesa	[07:07]
akstunt600	nooooo never	[07:08]
benkay	nobody outside of the insular btc bubble wants btc	[07:08]
kanzure	nobody outside the insular economics bubble wants money	[07:08]
HeySteve	yes, we trade AK47 bullets for elephant ivory, that's how things work here	[07:08]
MisterE	but they all want the processing network	[07:08]
benkay	there are great remittance plays to be made using btc to move money for people, but it involves taking fiat on one side and paying fiat out on the other	[07:08]
benkay	great news though	[07:08]
akstunt600	Yup, then came M-pesa	[07:08]
benkay	you can trivially move money across the globe with bitcoin	[07:08]
akstunt600	beter than the dead curencies they had	[07:08]
HeySteve	just the other day I rode my elephant to the closest city with electricity so I could swap gold for bitcoin	[07:09]
MisterE	:D	[07:09]
HeySteve	still, Bitcoin does need a push in emerging markets	[07:10]
akstunt600	big time	[07:10]
akstunt600	we have far to users	[07:10]
akstunt600	we are in some sort of damn user stagnation	[07:10]
akstunt600	far to few	[07:10]
akstunt600	like 600-700k gloabaly	[07:10]
MisterE	some bad press lately	[07:10]
akstunt600	it seems SOOO much bigger	[07:10]
MisterE	last few months has been a few things	[07:10]
akstunt600	minersdidit, Stop trolling now	[07:11]
akstunt600	I mine and do not dump	[07:11]
akstunt600	miners need simple education	[07:11]
HeySteve	I am developing a currency with one of the goals being emerging market adoption	[07:11]
akstunt600	and many pools can run at 0% fees	[07:11]
akstunt600	for transact	[07:12]
MisterE	HeySteve: I was just thinking about one to address carbon emissions	[07:12]
akstunt600	yeah and America is declinging and bowed toBrazil before IMF fucked them too	[07:12]
HeySteve	ok MisterE, how are you thinking of doing that?	[07:13]
HeySteve	submerging maybe	[07:13]
akstunt600	its mix of both	[07:14]
MisterE	don't know, just an idea I had this morning and keeps nagging at me	[07:14]
akstunt600	actually some of what is happening there is amazing	[07:14]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[07:14]
nubbins`	;;bc,xau	[07:14]
gribble	1 XAU = 1301.200000000000 USD = 3.41540238333 BTC	[07:14]
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akstunt600	its cheaper than mepsa	[07:15]
akstunt600	DUH	[07:15]
akstunt600	omfg	[07:15]
akstunt600	WOW	[07:15]
steven-__	not yet	[07:15]
akstunt600	what indirect fees?	[07:15]
akstunt600	i have never loooked at smsm and email for coins	[07:16]
MisterE	when you buy a dollar there is a spread	[07:16]
akstunt600	those arent fees	[07:16]
HeySteve	what if poor people could make profit mining crypto on their smartphones?	[07:16]
akstunt600	and btc is not yet a viable currency for any "poor" people	[07:16]
MisterE	HeySteve: corps would have to shit that shit down ASAP	[07:16]
akstunt600	It can be	[07:16]
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akstunt600	very easily	[07:16]
MisterE	1st shit=shut*	[07:17]
HeySteve	MisterE, I don't think so. they could get PR being a part of it	[07:17]
HeySteve	minersdidit, I said crypto not bitcoin	[07:17]
HeySteve	of course smartphones have no chance against asics	[07:17]
akstunt600	wow minersdidit that is a gorss misunderstanding	[07:17]
akstunt600	lol	[07:17]
random_cat	none of us realizes anything	[07:18]
MisterE	everything does something	[07:18]
akstunt600	it processes transactions	[07:18]
akstunt600	WOW	[07:18]
HeySteve	arguing with people over the interweb also does nothing and adds no new value, yet here we are	[07:18]
TestingUnoDosTre	very philosophical,	[07:18]
MisterE	Steve +1	[07:18]
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MisterE	Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/386/	[07:19]
HeySteve	if I earned money for interweb arguments though, I'd do it a lot more	[07:19]
TestingUnoDosTre	it gets my rocks off	[07:19]
akstunt600	WOW	[07:20]
akstunt600	no that would not be good	[07:20]
random_cat	somehow, minersdidit, that seems inferior to a blowjob	[07:20]
akstunt600	millions in infrastucture kaput	[07:20]
HeySteve	ha	[07:20]
MGK	anyone want to play madden on xbox one for bitcoin?	[07:20]
akstunt600	yeah like all of nothing	[07:20]
akstunt600	minersdidit, they arent free	[07:21]
akstunt600	mniers are the mechanism for distributins	[07:21]
akstunt600	minersdidit, so are you	[07:21]
akstunt600	:-P	[07:21]
akstunt600	volatility is good	[07:21]
akstunt600	for a new thing	[07:21]
random_cat	what is a better distribution method, minersdidit?	[07:21]
akstunt600	and new tech	[07:22]
random_cat	>3 vol	[07:22]
random_cat	err.. yknwim	[07:22]
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akstunt600	charts like check marks	[07:22]
akstunt600	hehhehe all of em	[07:22]
akstunt600	mainly btce	[07:22]
akstunt600	like perfect chack marke	[07:22]
akstunt600	lol whay watch him	[07:23]
akstunt600	why*	[07:23]
akstunt600	minersdidit, wasnt supposed to	[07:23]
TestingUnoDosTre	how is it that it takes thousands of bitcoins sold to drop to 340, yet hundreds bought bring it back to 400?	[07:23]
keonne	good morning #bitcoin-assets	[07:23]
akstunt600	you seem to forget that this wasnt supposed to grow this fast in the way it did	[07:23]
akstunt600	Asics came too soon	[07:24]
akstunt600	before enough coins were distributed	[07:24]
TestingUnoDosTre	for some reason my shitty freenode client wouldn't allow me to ignore you, so I will infrequently acknowledge your existence	[07:25]
akstunt600	TestingUnoDosTre, its not shitty	[07:25]
akstunt600	just use /ignore username all	[07:25]
TestingUnoDosTre	honestly douchey	[07:26]
akstunt600	minersdidit, is good troll who makes u think	[07:26]
akstunt600	;-)	[07:26]
TestingUnoDosTre	minersdidit makes me think I'm back in the days of AIM where someone has invented a bot to chat with you	[07:27]
akstunt600	hahahhahahhahahh TestingUnoDosTre	[07:27]
akstunt600	thos are fun	[07:27]
TestingUnoDosTre	quit trying to pull this Morpheus bullshit on me, I'm not retarded	[07:27]
akstunt600	but they arent this creative	[07:27]
dub	who the fuck unleashed -otc upon us	[07:27]
TestingUnoDosTre	I knew what a call option was before bitcoin existed	[07:27]
TestingUnoDosTre	this command keeps failing me	[07:28]
MisterE	$40 swing in a could hours, almost like old days	[07:29]
TestingUnoDosTre	your lame attempts to make me riled up are like lullabyes sending me to sleep	[07:29]
MisterE	couple*	[07:29]
HeySteve	wow such sassy very internet points	[07:29]
HeySteve	minersdidit, presenting the bear case is one thing but being a pest is another	[07:30]
MisterE	thanks for entertainment while I wait for the water filter service tech	[07:30]
MisterE	minersdidit: get a new script	[07:31]
MisterE	you've added nothing new to the debate for like an hour now	[07:31]
random_cat	good morning, east asia	[07:31]
TestingUnoDosTre	random_cat, please drop some more confuscianisms on us	[07:32]
HeySteve	with any new technology, first-movers prosper. bitcoin doesn't have to make everyone in the world wealthy to succeed	[07:33]
ozbot	Bitcoin Cost Per Transaction	[07:33]
HeySteve	to succeed, it just has to be better than the competition	[07:33]
MisterE	perceived better*	[07:34]
TestingUnoDosTre	53 bitcoins on stamp = +5 price	[07:34]
dub	-assets gives zero fucks about btc/usd, please find some way to die all of you	[07:34]
HeySteve	how is bitcoin worse than inflationary fiat currency which can be easily seized by bankrupt govts?	[07:34]
MisterE	many times over it's just reported funny so people can't see	[07:36]
HeySteve	nand since january 1st 2013?	[07:36]
MisterE	why you think Fed no publish M3 anymore?	[07:36]
MisterE	not at that rate though ofc	[07:36]
MisterE	but pretty damn fast and relentlessly the printing presses are running	[07:36]
HeySteve	it all depends on your timeframe, the general trend of bitcoin is appreciating currency however	[07:36]
MisterE	m3 is total money supply	[07:36]
MisterE	it has failed, just recently, have you a short memory>	[07:37]
MisterE	and many times before that similar systems all fail	[07:37]
HeySteve	minersdidit, let's see what happens to USD if Russia and China continue to conduct trade in their own currencies	[07:37]
MisterE	every currency in history has failed and USD will fail one day too	[07:38]
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MisterE	reason Russia came out of collapse easy was everything was already state owned	[07:39]
HeySteve	right, now there is an alternative to failure-prone fiat currencies. you are proving my point	[07:39]
MisterE	they were mych better prepared	[07:39]
HeySteve	lol tell that to Russia and China	[07:40]
HeySteve	until it isn't	[07:41]
MisterE	an asset is what people believe it is a single opinion is worth maybe a paper IOU	[07:41]
HeySteve	ok so you've mentioned a good reason for all chinese and russians to acquire bitcoin	[07:42]
MisterE	so what should they do?	[07:42]
HeySteve	it does if the currency fails, as you say	[07:43]
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TestingUnoDosTre	nice dude, can I trade my papyrus for goods now?	[07:43]
TestingUnoDosTre	family has been hodling since the macedonian era	[07:44]
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akstunt600	way to small	[07:46]
akstunt600	i agree there	[07:46]
MisterE	all emerging technologies are	[07:46]
MisterE	thats why there is opportunity and scams	[07:47]
akstunt600	yeah we are adopting it	[07:47]
akstunt600	its similar	[07:47]
MisterE	guys like you are not cut out for it quite frankly minersdidit	[07:47]
akstunt600	i agree MisterE	[07:47]
TestingUnoDosTre	and that's why he probably owns <1 btc	[07:47]
MisterE	lol this guy	[07:48]
akstunt600	minersdidit, that is some ego	[07:48]
akstunt600	can you see though that ego?	[07:49]
dub	tiberius sup	[07:49]
akstunt600	through*	[07:49]
MisterE	I think we're witnessing a pharmacological disaster	[07:49]
akstunt600	yeah	[07:49]
akstunt600	somethinglike it	[07:49]
MisterE	yep and that's where the big boys play	[07:49]
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mircea_popescu	MisterE lmao good one	[14:17]
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MisterE	yea the holy grail	[14:22]
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mircea_popescu	all this twitter chatter about omg dropbox. i never used it, because i didn't fucking like the idea a decade ago. now everyone stops liking the idea. i guess we all end up in the same spot eventually.	[14:26]
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MisterE	I dumped all cloud services except Mega last year	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	i never used any. because why ? i still don't get it.	[14:30]
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MisterE	sometimes when I was teaching I had to have my students download files	[14:31]
MisterE	few other use cases but I agree and hardly use it at all these days	[14:31]
fluffypony	yeah I've had a similar use-case	[14:31]
fluffypony	sharing files with non-technical people	[14:31]
MisterE	^ that	[14:31]
fluffypony	if it's with technical people I'd rather use git for versioning/sharing	[14:32]
pankkake	people don't like dropbox now? why?	[14:32]
MisterE	mircea_popescu just doesn't deal with any non-technical people I don;t think :)	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/454582751820533761	[14:32]
ozbot	Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @pdacosta Ahaha this is the ...	[14:32]
fluffypony	pankkake: coz of http://www.drop-dropbox.com	[14:33]
MisterE	pankkake: well for one they just put that torture, WMD, lying bitch Codaleeza Rice on their board.	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	MisterE so what's the problem to i dunno, dumpingthem on a server with apache ?	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	http has file transfer.	[14:33]
pankkake	not that you should ever have liked it - any honest competitor should have a fully open source CLIENT and CLIENT-SIDE encryption	[14:33]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: it's not that way, it's the other way around as well	[14:33]
fluffypony	they need to send to youa	[14:33]
fluffypony	once they've made changes	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	oic.	[14:34]
MisterE	yea it's a nightmare	[14:34]
fluffypony	I tried doing the FTP thing ages ago with someone	[14:34]
fluffypony	it was awful	[14:34]
mircea_popescu	so if these are text files just dump a blog software or something on a webserver	[14:34]
pankkake	dropbox provides easy file versionning and synchronisation. personally, I use git, but it's not the same crowd	[14:34]
pankkake	for	[14:34]
MisterE	git is great!	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	dun tell me they're "making changes" in photoshop	[14:35]
MisterE	editingmovies on the fly heh	[14:35]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: no normally Excel/Word documents, not plain text	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	i guess that's where we differ. i'd have forced all kids write .txt	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	excel/word seriously ?! F+	[14:35]
MisterE	:)	[14:35]
fluffypony	heh	[14:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15564 @ 0.00095585 = 14.8768 BTC [-] {2}	[14:36]
fluffypony	I tried teaching someone markdown the other day	[14:36]
fluffypony	gave up after an hour	[14:36]
MisterE	many of my Asian students would have needed detailed instructions to make .txt	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	this is how kids grow up to be 37 yo "senior counsel" that can't express itself in writing needs to talk on the phone.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	enrich their fucking minds damnit	[14:36]
MisterE	^ yep	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	MisterE now why would that be ?!	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	http://www.bbc.com/news/health-26885335	[14:36]
ozbot	BBC News - Doctors implant lab-grown vagina	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	just think about it ... chicks that could be walking around with synthetic vaginas in their tits	[14:37]
MisterE	the education system in many countries turns out the most low quality product I could ever imagine	[14:37]
mircea_popescu	could nevertheless not type text into their computor.	[14:37]
mircea_popescu	strange new world.	[14:37]
fluffypony	well the reason Excel is so pervasive is because it allows for simple (and sometimes invalid/incorrect) data analysis for even the most non-technical	[14:37]
MisterE	with multiple vags they probably won't have to worry about typing to make money heh	[14:37]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony you mean their cheap matlab clone ?	[14:37]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: yeah, but try teaching matlab to someone	[14:38]
fluffypony	or try teaching them to use sql as an alternative	[14:38]
fluffypony	even with UI tools	[14:38]
mircea_popescu	ok. i now appreciate the shit you folks have to deal it.	[14:38]
MisterE	yea it's insane how stuck on MS education is	[14:38]
mircea_popescu	i never would, personally, which is why i don't teach there.	[14:38]
MisterE	they absolutely know nothing else but Word Excel and FB	[14:38]
fluffypony	MisterE: yeah I never understood that, I always figured educators would want to use whatever was cheap and accessible, but MS has a foothold that isn't going away	[14:38]
MisterE	yea it's terrible I got out of teaching ASAP but good way to land in a country and get the lay of the land and make a few connections	[14:39]
cazalla	MS give it away for free to keep the foothold, don't they?	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	this is a good point.	[14:39]
MisterE	I loved teaching the young kids but the uni level I just hated	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	cazalla not really anymore than pharma gives meds away	[14:39]
MisterE	here it is all pirated	[14:39]
fluffypony	cazalla: they have an education edition of office, can't remember what it's called, but it's cheaper - not free	[14:40]
cazalla	must be an aussie thing	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony why not just use open/libre office ?	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	it's definitely a drop-in replacement for excel etc	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	and it will save in proper formats.	[14:40]
fluffypony	yep I know, but they're afraid of it	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	...	[14:40]
fluffypony	well I'm talking more from a business stand point than an education one	[14:40]
MisterE	I dunno why they, Asians at least, simply can't get it in their head that there are other options.	[14:41]
pankkake	MisterE: some people sent me one-page powerpoints with only one image in it	[14:41]
pankkake	or other crap	[14:41]
fluffypony	but what I've seen happen is that some IT guy gets the bright idea to cut down on licensing costs by going OO/LO	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	anyway, your solution re the file problem : get them to migrate to open office, have their shit exported as whatever mark-up, it can be uploaded and validated on webserver.	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	and you're doing more for a better world than any vegetarian/ecologist/occupywallstreet/other idjit.	[14:41]
fluffypony	until some manager gets sent an Excel file with something complicated/shit (VBA, PivotCharts, PivotTables)	[14:41]
fluffypony	and it breaks in OO/LO	[14:41]
fluffypony	and then everyone goes back to MS Office	[14:41]
fluffypony	and the cycle continues	[14:42]
pankkake	by the way, if you like git, you can diff openoffice documents. https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitTips#How_to_use_git_to_track_OpenDocument_.28OpenOffice.2C_Koffice.29_files.3F	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony you've4 just explained the market incentive for ms windows to stay obscure and broken.	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	people usually harp about it, but this is why they do it.	[14:42]
MisterE	school gave a colleague a hard time for not teaching Office iirc. He was only talking about cross platform compatibility but got called in for a discussion because students had complained	[14:42]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: exactly	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	"our customers are many and stupid, we gotta "	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	a product, willy-nilly, ends up looking like its userbase.	[14:42]
MisterE	thats a terrible thing about the education system here teachers don't judge students because of the cultural / social hierarchy teachers are rated by students with rich parents	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	that's actually great.	[14:43]
MisterE	mircea_popescu: yea I just read your PR post on your blog about customers :)	[14:43]
MisterE	well it could be if used right but, since only wealthy kids here can afford Western teachers it's lazy dumb rich kids who cry to daddy when you try to get them to do anything productive then daddy calls school and teacher has a problem	[14:44]
MisterE	that and the no fail policy are why I left as fast as I did	[14:45]
MisterE	it's a joke	[14:45]
fluffypony	oh FFS, our maid just broke another iron	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	MisterE so tell dady how it is.	[14:45]
MisterE	oh FFS, first world problems :p	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	daddy is rich, he can't really be stupid.	[14:45]
fluffypony	MisterE: lawlz	[14:45]
MisterE	actually it's not a meritocracy, rich here often are the most stupid	[14:46]
MisterE	they buy their degrees from schools who dont make them work and are guaranteed work from family	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	which country is that again ?	[14:46]
fluffypony	MisterE: I think that's sometimes/often a product of "I inherited money so making money was a matter of only making a few major mistakes"	[14:46]
MisterE	Thailand is where I taught	[14:46]
fluffypony	where a poor/middle-class person can virtually be wiped out by making a major mistake	[14:47]
MisterE	but most SE Asian eduction systems are similar	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	i wonder how it survives.	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	theoretically speaking at least they should have been massacred in teh marketplace.	[14:47]
MisterE	Burma is much better interestingly	[14:47]
MisterE	and all the boat people coming back to Vietnam with Western education things are booming there	[14:47]
MisterE	well thailand is responsible for 19997	[14:47]
MisterE	they constantly institute capitol controls that shoot themselves in the foot	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	wassat ?	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	oh	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	lol	[14:48]
MisterE	they lost billions on a populist rice pledging scheme	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	so basically, thailand is a set of old landed gentry trying their best to stick to relevancy ? sorta like argentina ?	[14:48]
MisterE	they really are dumb I mean I dont want to be racist but Thailand is run and full of dumb people	[14:48]
MisterE	thats why people enjoy vacation so uch here	[14:49]
fluffypony	btw pankkake, good article on another XXE issue in OpenID from earlier this year: http://www.sensepost.com/blog/10178.html	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	lol	[14:49]
MisterE	mircea_popescu: that's pretty good analysis	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck wants to be with stupid people.	[14:49]
MisterE	old money here has been around for generations and nothing much has changed under the hood	[14:49]
MisterE	though as is typical in Asia lots of new paintjobs :)	[14:49]
MisterE	I tell you it really wears on me at times	[14:50]
cazalla	i thought people go to thailand for sex tourism?	[14:50]
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mircea_popescu	MisterE actually i think i get whart you mean re vacations. costa rica is a pleasure, but yeah the locals are really slow.	[14:50]
MisterE	I irc a lot and hang out at the foreign corespondent's club and stay sane that way	[14:50]
Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu would retort with "who the fuck wants to fuck stupid people"	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic men.	[14:50]
MisterE	you really do not want to live here unless you're retiring	[14:50]
MisterE	especially if you have any addictive personality or not able to self-motivate	[14:51]
mircea_popescu	so basically you made your own zombie attack.	[14:51]
MisterE	I get out to hk and cx and sg often so BKK is a great base	[14:51]
MisterE	lol	[14:51]
MisterE	I could for shure	[14:51]
MisterE	also my standard of living is high and super cheap	[14:52]
MisterE	girls are very very hot	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	really, this is true of most of the world outside of some very narrowly selected places.	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	most places that aren't california, new york, pairs etc have high living standards of living, plentiful and obedient good looking women etc.	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	the trick is to not live in rome, as it were.	[14:53]
MisterE	well you can't match the cost of living here in most places where Western comforts are available granted though I've given up on most of them just because of changing	[14:53]
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mircea_popescu	how not ? i've lived pretty much all over the world. living space costs you something in the range of a dollar per square foot per year.	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	food (actual, as opposed to whatever the fuck us fastfood is) will run you ten bux a day and so on	[14:55]
MisterE	my last place was about 80sqm, near the beach, a duplex, 2 bed 1nice bath and full kitchen (not often found here) and rent $230	[14:55]
MisterE	food is same everywhere	[14:55]
MisterE	if you want to eat healthy	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 230 * 12 / 80 / 9	[14:56]
gribble	3.83333333333	[14:56]
Apocalyptic	SG is nice, though expensive for Asia standards	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	i guess you paid extra fo rthe beach and the kitchen	[14:56]
Apocalyptic	i read somewhere it's becoming the most expensive city in the world	[14:56]
MisterE	yea I would never live in sg because of the cost or hk also the space	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	(really, very small places throw the curve)	[14:56]
MisterE	that same place would have been $1500 in Berkeley or $3500 in SF	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	but i just said "most places that aren't california, new york, pairs etc"	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	you dun wanna live in rome.	[14:57]
MisterE	yea I sort of did want to live in a beach town a coupl eyears	[14:57]
MisterE	it wore off now deciding what to do next and rural is definitely the way forward	[14:58]
MisterE	I'm old done enough cities	[14:58]
cazalla	that's what i'm doing in 18-24 months MisterE	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	haha we're exact opposite ends of the cycle. i'm sick of peace and quiet.	[14:58]
cazalla	headed innawoods in tasmania	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	cazalla with the kid ?!	[14:59]
MisterE	I wouldn't want to live anywhere that wasn't reasonably close to somewhere with culture and fun though it's worth it to pay for that	[14:59]
MisterE	like I'd never live in Kansas	[14:59]
MisterE	or you know OK mid-west wasteland	[14:59]
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cazalla	mircea_popescu: tassie is small, i'll find an area with a school within an hour and the wife can drive him	[14:59]
MisterE	find a good school, build somethign nearby	[15:00]
cazalla	i was actually going to piss off and do this before she fell pregnant	[15:00]
MisterE	thats always what I thought I;d do but no kids ever came	[15:00]
MisterE	maybe I;m shooting blanks :)	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	haha which reminds me, there used to be this whore advertised as a cum grader	[15:01]
MisterE	you lived in au mircea_popescu ?	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	she supposedly could tell you if you were shooting blanks or not.	[15:01]
MisterE	lol nasty	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	MisterE nope.	[15:01]
MisterE	haha	[15:01]
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fluffypony	MisterE: mircea_popescu likes to Remain Here	[15:02]
fluffypony	awful pun	[15:02]
MisterE	how expensive in Romania?	[15:02]
MisterE	heh	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	not terribly.	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	"The North Carolina Attorney General's Office is now joining other states investigating a massive data breach at a credit reporting agency that has put 200 million Social Security numbers at risk."	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	god fucking forbid they say EXPERIAN	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	on the other hand, if it were some shitty service nobody heard of that happened to take btc ?	[15:03]
MisterE	right, proicks protecting their corporate friends	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	BITCOIN SECURITY FLAW	[15:03]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: CORE security flaw in the Bitcoin ponzi scam!	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	right.	[15:03]
MisterE	^	[15:03]
fluffypony	allowed hackers to steal MILLIONS!	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	this is here so i have what to link journos when they need to be told how to cover btc.	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	cover it like it was obama's experian, fuckwit. because it is.	[15:03]
MisterE	corps hate us because we will gut and assimilate them one day	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	this is not a reason to hate.	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	this is a reason to fucking cuddle.	[15:04]
pankkake	jborkl: http://www.bcoinnews.com/feed/ = invalid xml	[15:06]
MisterE	reminds me of talking about saving face, Thai Air plane went off runway recently, monor accident few people roughed up but before deplaning or doing anything they had a crew out there covering the Thai logs	[15:06]
MisterE	logos*	[15:06]
fluffypony	lol! I have to try this tonight: http://i.imgur.com/TeHIhn9.jpg	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	MisterE lmao and they're allowed to ?	[15:07]
MisterE	fluffypony: did you read about how to make that in here? http://i.imgur.com/eSfqSKR.jpg	[15:08]
fluffypony	clicks	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	o wait, this is one of those fucktarded south asian countries which a) still has libel and b) truth is no defense to it ?	[15:08]
fluffypony	MisterE: indeed - that's the textbook I use for my Advanced Alcoholicist course	[15:08]
MisterE	\ ruth is a defense if you can afford to defend yourself defamation is prosecuted by the state and has a very chilling effect	[15:09]
MisterE	I'm involved with a case now	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	i remember some ridiculous thing where some blogger said she found a cockroach in her soup and then had to take down the post because the eatery objected	[15:09]
MisterE	the Lesse Majeste laws are what th is really know for being regressive about	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	fucking burn the place down, the gall of those people.	[15:10]
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MisterE	right	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	MisterE amusingly, that part i can see. unless you're willing to go to war for the throne, stfu about the king.	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	this makes sense.	[15:10]
MisterE	well it's got that but on the upside nobody fucks with you here the cops do nothing they dont see their pace to intervene in personal disputes, you must have personal responsibility	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	also nice.	[15:11]
MisterE	I feel more free in reality here despite the nice piece of paper back in the US and my passport	[15:11]
MisterE	and nothing a little cash cant fix here even if I fuck up	[15:11]
MisterE	politeness of course trumps all	[15:11]
mircea_popescu	the advantage of corrupt societies.	[15:11]
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MisterE	yes works to the foregners advantage almost always	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	people keep saying "corrupt" like it's a bad thing, but i seriously have been making it one of my top indicators	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	you dun wanna live in an "uncorrupt" society, because that always means totalitarian in practice.	[15:12]
MisterE	yea shit gets done when the wheels are greased	[15:12]
MisterE	US is nearly as corrupt but has a fucking elaborate system to shield it behind	[15:12]
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MisterE	I may have more respect for Asians who just say hell with it and lay it on the table	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	MisterE try and tell a us cop that he either gets on his knees or he loses his job. then go pay his boss to fire him.	[15:13]
MisterE	tbh it effects me very little maybe once every other month in a minor driving incident	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	then get back to me about corrupt	[15:13]
MisterE	yea US cops are out of control	[15:14]
MisterE	I'm never going back ever	[15:14]
MisterE	but still remain interested in politics and happeings	[15:14]
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mircea_popescu	humiliating the police force is pretty much the test. if they don't understand that they have to get out of the way of some people it ain't a country worth living in.	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/609/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall/#c2768	[15:16]
ozbot	BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall	[15:16]
MisterE	oh check out how the right of way system works here...	[15:16]
Apocalyptic	.d	[15:16]
ozbot	6.120 billion \| Next Diff in 1100 blocks \| Estimated Change: 4.6909% in 7d 6h 42m 4s	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla check that out, there's class warfare on bitbet	[15:16]
MisterE	so pedestrians are on the bottom ofc and have to wait for everything, then motorbikes (mopeds), then cars, then trucks (medium size) then busses because state owned bug dgaf and will hammer you) then big trucks with like trailers and finally everyone yields to the lat model Mercedes Benz . This is because the Benz may be driven by a well connected person who could make problems for you so fucks in Benzes flaunt everyone	[15:19]
MisterE	and anyone important here gets a police escort there's dozens maybe hundreds a day	[15:19]
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mircea_popescu	well that's nutty.	[15:20]
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mircea_popescu	i much prefer the european system (pedestrian have priority over anything)	[15:21]
MisterE	when royal family travels pedestrian overpasses are blocked, not for security, but because no one can be positioned higher than a royal.	[15:21]
MisterE	me too!	[15:21]
MisterE	I think some jerks here actually accelerate when you're in a crosswalk	[15:22]
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MisterE	mircea_popescu: tl;dr Thais are the nicest people money can buy.	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:23]
MisterE	;)	[15:23]
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fluffypony	heh	[15:24]
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fluffypony	so someone placed a ~100 BTC buy order on Cryptsy for Dogecoin last night	[15:24]
fluffypony	from Reddit: "It's a Bitcoin investor that is going to capitalize on the ingenuity and creativity of Dogecoin."	[15:24]
Naphex	lol	[15:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05289998 = 0.3174 BTC [+] {2}	[15:24]
fluffypony	"This is a pump to say the least."	[15:25]
fluffypony	a 100 BTC buy is a pump?!	[15:25]
BingoBoingo	On something as worthless as Doge it is	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	that's ap oint.	[15:26]
fluffypony	BingoBoingo: true	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	what's it trade for ? still 100 satoshi ?	[15:26]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: yeah the buy was at 98	[15:26]
fluffypony	currently sitting at 99 it seems	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	so basically... doge owner and operator spending 100 of his last 1xx btc in a doomed but desperate attempt to save his pump and dump scheme from oblivion	[15:27]
fluffypony	lol	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	in spite of having made ~70% losses on his total investment so far, and in spite of having managed to attreact the wrath of mp, dude still hopes.	[15:27]
MisterE	I read rumor that DOGE and LTC were combining lol	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	MisterE the shit consists of nothing but trying to somehow buy press coverage. so... yeah. rumours.	[15:28]
MisterE	there's a bitbet about dog still worffing	[15:28]
MisterE	woffing*	[15:28]
MisterE	yep think it was bitcointalk or some crap site	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	ya but it never gathered 10 btc worth of interest iirc	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/733/doge-still-woofing-on-april-fools-day/	[15:29]
ozbot	BitBet - Doge still woofing on April Fool's Day	[15:29]
BingoBoingo	Dogers aren't the type to have discovered hedging yet though	[15:30]
mircea_popescu	or their penises.	[15:33]
fluffypony	coinmarketcap hurts my brain with the number of bullshit coins on there	[15:34]
pankkake	I should have made the bet last more, but April 1st was a good date	[15:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03427436 = 0.1371 BTC [-] {3}	[15:35]
fluffypony	http://www.marinecoin.org	[15:35]
fluffypony	"Safari refresh couple of times if you don't see the entire webpage contents below."	[15:35]
fluffypony	wut	[15:35]
MisterE	Ya GF delivers Carl's Jr.!	[15:35]
fluffypony	"Marinecoin is far ahead of its time, 5-10 years beyond traditional thinking. Let them make fun of you if they wish, for you will have your "Who is laughing now?" moment, guaranteed."	[15:35]
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mircea_popescu	derp.	[15:36]
*	fluffypony invests all of his Bitcoin right now!	[15:36]
MisterE	I know but chix sand not the worst and I do get cravings here	[15:36]
cazalla	Isracoin has been doing ok, they're gonna have an airdrop, wonder if the palestinians will do that for them heh	[15:36]
MisterE	Marinecoin	[15:36]
pankkake	fluffypony: that's how it looks to me and will stay that way: http://i.imgur.com/HwDveU3.png	[15:36]
MisterE	how could you make a coin to help carbon emissions?	[15:36]
fluffypony	pankkake: looks much better than the actual site	[15:36]
fluffypony	cazalla: all of the coins with a ** next to the total supply you can disregard	[15:37]
fluffypony	they're "significantly premined", so if two of them sell for 100 satoshi but there are 10 trillion premined	[15:38]
cazalla	i think you can disregard any without 1 next to them	[15:38]
fluffypony	well, you can figure out what that means	[15:38]
fluffypony	"Ladies and Gentlemen, we are ready and proud to announce, to educate the rest 99% of the population who has never heard about crypto currencies. The CHECKMATE Trading System. Using Eccentric Trade Matrix Harmonic Acceleration Technology. The one & only truly revolutionary trading platform based on quantum physics & electron flow dynamics mathematical formulas. A 6 dimensional chess game we have invented that will forever change how crypto	[15:40]
fluffypony	currencies are going to be traded in the very near future."	[15:40]
fluffypony	what in actual fuck are these people smoking	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony basically it's like this : society consists at all times of some people in the center, and a bunch of nuts at the edges. they are at the edges because they suck.	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	now, all new things start at the edge and move towards the center.	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	and every time something looks like it's going that way, the filth tries to hitch a ride.	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	that's the winklevoss twins, in a word : scum facebook sorta-drug with it.	[15:42]
MisterE	fairly lengthy troll today from minersdidit	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	and every single nutty idea will try to pile itself on top of the train, as it were, just as long as they figure "thge train is going somewhere"	[15:42]
fluffypony	yeah	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	so expect to have flat earth bitcoin, godcoin, globalwarmingcoin, etc.	[15:43]
fluffypony	heh	[15:43]
MisterE	globalwarmingcoin was my idea!!	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	aok	[15:44]
MisterE	;)	[15:44]
fluffypony	the altcoin section of Bitcointalk is becoming the Warrior Forums of BTC	[15:45]
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mircea_popescu	indeed, very stylized	[15:46]
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cazalla	fluffypony: WF is one step ahead, you have been able to buy WSO on making money with crypto for some time	[15:47]
fluffypony	hah	[15:47]
MisterE	I read a city minted a coin, only the local gov can mine it, and they're giving it for charitable things people do to help the city. now you can exchange for a title or crappy council resolution but trying to make more incentives for it.	[15:47]
fluffypony	well there you go	[15:47]
MisterE	US city	[15:47]
mircea_popescu	cazalla hardly one step ahead :D	[15:48]
pankkake	I hope Detroit launches Robocoin	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	either that or rapecoin.	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	"you get one every time you file a complaint"	[15:49]
pankkake	what about Ropecoin?	[15:49]
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mircea_popescu	how's that work ?	[15:50]
fluffypony	you can use it to tie up your actual money?	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	so you've been roped into it.	[15:51]
pankkake	can be either hanging themed or bondage themed	[15:51]
pankkake	bagholders would be at the end of the rope	[15:52]
fluffypony	nice	[15:53]
fluffypony	and you buy in with "proof of burn"	[15:54]
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mircea_popescu	ouch.	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	ropeburn is not to be joked with	[15:56]
fluffypony	heh	[15:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 163 @ 0.00084999 = 0.1385 BTC [+]	[15:57]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39726 @ 0.00096197 = 38.2152 BTC [+] {7}	[15:58]
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BingoBoingo	. bait	[16:00]
BingoBoingo	.bait	[16:01]
ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/af6a1e2d4cd7d09a70deb048d9ef6b61/tumblr_mwfotlpGXd1rv57fio1_500.jpg	[16:01]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[16:01]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 120 @ 0.14 = 16.8 BTC {4}	[16:01]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 426.1, vol: 64456.23973551 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 53954.02149 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 427.9999, vol: 57019.52119721 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.15, vol: 383.30053439 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 422.79566, vol: 9946.06750000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 442.86987, vol: 18.99977414 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 437.125486123, vol: 313.12483935 \| Volume-weighted last (1 more message)	[16:01]
BingoBoingo	;;more	[16:01]
gribble	average: 424.75524867	[16:01]
BingoBoingo	So BTC is pretty much back to where it was 2 days ago	[16:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 19 @ 0.14 = 2.66 BTC {2}	[16:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[16:03]
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fluffypony	BingoBoingo: yes, until China bans bitcoin again	[16:05]
BingoBoingo	This is what, the seventh, eighth time already?	[16:06]
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Duffer1	;t h alc	[16:11]
Duffer1	;ticker h alc	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	well they did win the bet...	[16:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03579999 = 0.179 BTC [+] {3}	[16:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03623524 = 0.616 BTC [+] {3}	[16:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC	[16:20]
MisterE	rapecoin lmao	[16:21]
pankkake	rape credits would be better. make them work like carbon credits	[16:21]
MisterE	murdercoin I might could get behind	[16:21]
MisterE	some people should not reproduce	[16:22]
pankkake	castracoin should be enough then	[16:23]
pankkake	or aborcoin	[16:23]
nubbins`	;;later tell moiety Taegukgi yep, May 18 nope	[16:26]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[16:26]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: have you collected your Bitleu yet? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=510353.0	[16:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59389997 BTC [+]	[16:29]
MisterE	castracoin++	[16:29]
Apocalyptic	lmao	[16:29]
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Apocalyptic	"Officical cryptocurrency of Romania?	[16:29]
Apocalyptic	Any proof of that ?"	[16:29]
Apocalyptic	these people...	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	that's ok, i'll do without	[16:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 6 @ 0.14 = 0.84 BTC	[16:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59399998 = 1.188 BTC [+] {2}	[16:30]
fluffypony	Apocalyptic: did they seriously misspell official?	[16:33]
Apocalyptic	they did	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	is this the same dork that kept trying to pump ixcoin ?	[16:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0364999 = 0.1095 BTC [+]	[16:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05130103 = 0.1539 BTC [-]	[16:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59389997 BTC [-]	[16:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[16:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05130103 = 0.1539 BTC [-] {2}	[16:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC	[16:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.59498999 = 4.1649 BTC [+] {2}	[16:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0523 = 0.1569 BTC [+]	[16:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[16:48]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59389997 = 1.1878 BTC [-]	[16:51]
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numerisTrade	hello	[16:56]
artifexd	;;later tell kakobrekla Why did assbot rate a bunch of people?	[16:58]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[16:58]
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pankkake	looks like a list of users active on #bitcoin-assets	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	artifexd because impending doom	[17:00]
artifexd	After the 12 hour troll fest in here last night, I wouldn't be surprised if #bitcoin-assets became +m and to get +v you had to be rated in the wot.	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	srsly ?	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	why are you so smart ?	[17:03]
pankkake	there was a troll?	[17:03]
artifexd	Of course, that increases the chicken/egg problem. Maybe being ident would be enough?	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	this isn't really meant as a first line "learn about bitcoin and share your feelings" venue anyway. there's the various forums and social media sites for that.	[17:05]
Apocalyptic	"Theo De Raadt just set OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEAT on libssl for OpenBSD. Shame that the actual flag is OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS, so the commit does nothing."	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic win	[17:05]
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MisterE	any change of getting a raping from assbot?	[17:06]
MisterE	rating***	[17:06]
pankkake	https://xkcd.com/1354/ when you see it that way, you wonder how the fuck it wasn't found right away	[17:06]
ozbot	xkcd: Heartbleed Explanation	[17:06]
MisterE	damn 1 letter	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	pankkake answer contained in question : because everyone was too busy derping with xkcd	[17:07]
pankkake	too busy derping answers a lot of questions :/	[17:07]
MisterE	my fav xkcd: https://xkcd.com/386/	[17:07]
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mircea_popescu	oglaf > xkcd	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if this'll ever be a flamewar.	[17:08]
pankkake	MisterE: used to be my forum sig somewhere. it's an addiction, I always try to quit but I fall in it again	[17:08]
pankkake	apples > oranges	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	how so ?!	[17:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 50 @ 0.14 = 7 BTC	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	both cartoons neh ?	[17:08]
pankkake	I would actually argue that apples are better than oranges too	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	i dunno man. i really see it there. i love myself a summer evening apple, but also a winter morning orange.	[17:10]
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MisterE	moar fiber	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	i couldnt switch	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	imo the biggest drawback of xckd is his psychotic relation to sexuality.	[17:11]
mircea_popescu	no penis ? seriously ?! what's this!	[17:11]
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pankkake	MisterE: but oranges have moar vitamins, good for an early meal	[17:12]
mircea_popescu	also oranges much easier to share.	[17:13]
MisterE	hmm I do like me a fresh orange juice in the morning but lately the acid is not my friend :/	[17:13]
pankkake	I like the small oranges, clementines and mandarins, maybe because I'm a filthy individualist?	[17:13]
MisterE	in US I used to get the low acid concentraded OJ	[17:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0524298 = 0.1049 BTC [+]	[17:13]
pankkake	without the fiber it must be harder to digest	[17:13]
mircea_popescu	true story : me in a park, on bench, with apple. big fat red juicy apple. little girl sorta shyly eyeing my apple from a safe distance. so i extend it for her to take a bite. she bites and sorta... gets stuck ? starts shaking her head and eventually pulls away ?	[17:14]
MisterE	my stomach is a rock so I dunno why i eat chilies by the truckload	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	blood gushing everywhere. and my apple... now has a tooth in it.	[17:14]
MisterE	most Asians cant believe I eat spicy	[17:14]
MisterE	oh shit	[17:14]
pankkake	ouch	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	milk tooth.	[17:14]
MisterE	Thai New Year is here	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	happy ny.	[17:16]
MisterE	there are 3 Ney Years celebrations here	[17:16]
MisterE	Thai, Chinese and Western	[17:16]
MisterE	any excuse for a party	[17:16]
MisterE	but this shuts the country down like nothing else	[17:16]
MisterE	streets in Bangkok that are usually jam packed will be wide open	[17:16]
MisterE	my problem is nobody to make me food heh	[17:17]
MisterE	probably will go for 3 days straight pizza	[17:17]
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cazalla	you know you can have the best of both worlds with a meyer lemon, i have a tree, best lemons in the world	[17:23]
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cazalla	how did i misread apple v orange as lemon v orange	[17:24]
mike_c	tumor	[17:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC	[17:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 30 @ 0.14 = 4.2 BTC	[17:26]
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mircea_popescu	lupus	[17:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3843 @ 0.00034912 = 1.3417 BTC [-] {14}	[17:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3433 @ 0.00032912 = 1.1299 BTC [-] {5}	[17:29]
mircea_popescu	;;echo $randomnick $randomnick sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s...	[17:29]
gribble	asciilifeform ystarnaud sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s...	[17:29]
mircea_popescu	evil.	[17:29]
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rithm	recently in #bitcoin-mining: i bought a antminer u2+. but cgminer or bfg miner cant find the antminer. can anyone help me with my bad english?^^	[17:36]
rithm	that's a real line of text too	[17:36]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/a-virtual-socioeconomic-problem/	[17:46]
ozbot	A virtual socioeconomic problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[17:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.01079382 = 0.1511 BTC [+] {3}	[17:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00096237 = 2.5984 BTC [+]	[17:56]
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Shakespeare	just read your guild article	[17:57]
Shakespeare	i dont think it's one problem	[17:57]
Shakespeare	people play for different reasons, you cant cater to all of them	[17:58]
Shakespeare	but you also cant cater to none	[17:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00567009 = 0.3119 BTC [-] {3}	[17:58]
Shakespeare	some people want to excel, whether achieved or not, they aspire to be a top raider	[17:58]
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Shakespeare	some people want to have fun, be social, this requires regular opportunity to be part of an active and communicating group	[17:59]
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Shakespeare	for example, i play dota 2	[17:59]
Shakespeare	i do better solo, and work on my rating that way	[17:59]
Shakespeare	but ive met a few people i like	[17:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 69 @ 0.0015 = 0.1035 BTC [-] {2}	[17:59]
Shakespeare	and i'd rather play with them	[17:59]
Shakespeare	because it's more fun	[17:59]
Shakespeare	even if we lose, it's more fun	[18:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 3 @ 0.14 = 0.42 BTC	[18:00]
Shakespeare	then, like children, some people need order	[18:00]
Shakespeare	leadership	[18:00]
Shakespeare	etc	[18:00]
Shakespeare	that lends to having an organizational structure	[18:01]
Shakespeare	an active GL	[18:01]
Shakespeare	executives below him	[18:01]
Shakespeare	etc	[18:01]
Shakespeare	generally all these things are offering relevance	[18:01]
Shakespeare	just each player seeks relevance in different ways	[18:02]
Shakespeare	some guilds would try to tackle catering to all these things	[18:02]
Shakespeare	it doesnt really work	[18:02]
Shakespeare	high turnover	[18:02]
Shakespeare	dunno if any of that helps, but those are my most immediate thoughts	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	Shakespeare well yes but for instance there's the institution of legatus milites	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	guild rank 4. he gets to organise raids, and has access to special guild vault of raids supplies.	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	chick in question ? didn't even know all this. tho it's on the fucking guild wall	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	now part of it could be bad ui, i guess. but part of it is just incomprehensible to me	[18:05]
Shakespeare	well is guild chat anything like here?	[18:05]
Shakespeare	as in, can lowly noob be directed to education?	[18:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.05242998 = 0.8913 BTC [+]	[18:06]
Shakespeare	also why use a chick for your case study?	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	cause it's the most recent example, i guess.	[18:06]
Shakespeare	yeah but not exactly a control	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	some earlier dudes (whgich is when istarted suspecting i may have a problem) wanted permission to raid with some other guild. i was like fine	[18:07]
Shakespeare	ask them why	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	then they joined the other guild. im like wtf you dummies, you three go join two dudes in a lvl 4 guild ? why don't they join you in your lvl 13 guild wtf.	[18:07]
Shakespeare	they want their own relevance maybe	[18:08]
Shakespeare	stake	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	not like anyone gives a shit as far as i can tell	[18:08]
Shakespeare	yeah, i mean if it's just random turnover, well you cant stop that	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	ie, i doubt if you ask the total guild population (somehow) half know im the leader	[18:08]
Shakespeare	but if you think you have a problem	[18:08]
Shakespeare	you could research it	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	nono i meant about the stake	[18:09]
Shakespeare	i bet theyd prefer to have a leader	[18:09]
Shakespeare	a known one	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	im tempted to think that people are by now so fucking blinded by the idiocy of the us system that rather than aspire to live, they aspire to one day be the ones to give the orders.	[18:09]
Shakespeare	many, yes	[18:09]
artifexd	Maybe he/she wants to be revered. It is easier to be the big fish in a small pond.	[18:10]
Shakespeare	as soon as they hit any kind of obstacle or friction they will first think, well should i just own it myself?	[18:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2401 @ 0.0001 = 0.2401 BTC [-] {2}	[18:10]
Shakespeare	i started guilds, i rose to rank and to leader in some	[18:10]
Shakespeare	really being a leader in WoW fucking blows	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	well that's the thing, i'm not about to spend a ton of time derping in guild chat or w/e.	[18:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC	[18:11]
Shakespeare	theyd probly all hate you anyway ;)	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	i've have enough of my hands full being pretty much... the marketmaker there. it's fucking ridiculous with these people.	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	i guess if i go looking for it, the "they're just retarded" theory actually has a lot of support.	[18:13]
Shakespeare	yeah i wouldnt get too wrapped up in "fixing" gamer behavior	[18:14]
Shakespeare	just asking for misery	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	i mean don;'t get me wrong, im not butthurt or anything, join a 2 year old game and own the top guild on one shard within what, 4-5 months is not trivial.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	but some shit gives me pause.	[18:16]
BingoBoingo	Eh, maybe they just got bored being in a large guild that has already "won" the game?	[18:17]
pLambert	HIF just released their quarterly staement, price is dropping like a rock	[18:17]
Shakespeare	link?	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	pLambert is hif the havelog version of the vtx thing ?	[18:18]
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Shakespeare	its shares of Havelock	[18:18]
jborkl	well no trades are posting	[18:18]
jborkl	assbot on break again?	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo hardly, that's the rub. game has tons of 12man team content, we;ve barely scratched the surface. item rarities go over 7 tiers, the best available atm is tier 4 or so.	[18:18]
pLambert	yeah, it is havelock, maybe the price is so low it is not showing?	[18:19]
Shakespeare	the obnoxiously overpriced IPO was discussed mos ago	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	but with a bunch of 3man lvl 3guilds that's never going to be within reach	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	assbot> [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2401 @ 0.0001 = 0.2401 BTC [-] {2} < i see ?	[18:19]
pLambert	does havelock round its numbers to 4 places?	[18:20]
fluffypony	they should switch to floats. I hear good things about floats.	[18:20]
fluffypony	:-p	[18:20]
Shakespeare	it rounds the homepage, but otherwise no	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	!t h hif	[18:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00010000 / 0.00027366 / 0.00039498 (10792 shares, 2.95328721 BTC), 7D: 0.00010000 / 0.00032857 / 0.00043000 (23457 shares, 7.70732156 BTC), 30D: 0.00010000 / 0.00038972 / 0.00056500 (75791 shares, 29.53749976 BTC)	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	well it did drop like 70%	[18:21]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: That's confounding then.	[18:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[18:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59498765 BTC [+]	[18:23]
Shakespeare	must login to view HL report?	[18:24]
Shakespeare	gay	[18:24]
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Shakespeare	"Dividend value is posted (albeit incredibly disappointing), but I have not had received any bitcoin to my account.	[18:26]
Shakespeare	Also, there is nothing in the report outlining what the "expenses" are made up of."	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo what you mean ?	[18:26]
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mircea_popescu	Shakespeare note the "dividend value" "reports" equivalency in the person;'s head.	[18:30]
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nubbins`	havelock, lel	[18:31]
bounce	dunno. could be... a lack of athmosphere maybe?	[18:32]
nubbins`	the best part is when they don't enumerate expenses	[18:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59498755 BTC [-]	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	bounce definitely.	[18:32]
nubbins`	"we spend 60btc per month on... things"	[18:32]
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*	bounce has no idea what drives the generic gamer, though. been years since I happened to play along with a bunch of fanatical gamers. mostly starcraft on university computers.	[18:32]
bounce	could try and organise a few community officers or whatever you'd like to call'em, have them organise meet-ups, in-game parties, whatever.	[18:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC {2}	[18:35]
Shakespeare	lol the HIF qrtlyt report "only available to unit holders"	[18:36]
bounce	buy one share to see the report?	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	bounce i bought a guild tavern, there's tons of decorations available. the position of "guild tavern designer" is pretty much oipen for the asking.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	you'd think people'd jump on the change to play dolly house on my money, but somehow... nop.	[18:37]
Shakespeare	Q1	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	Shakespeare shockingly inept these people.	[18:37]
Shakespeare	Revenues	[18:37]
Shakespeare	Operating Expense	[18:37]
Shakespeare	Operating Income	[18:37]
Shakespeare	฿ 216.47528979	[18:37]
Shakespeare	฿ 179.47272695	[18:37]
Shakespeare	฿ 37.00256284	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	i mean... what, they're going to keep it a secret ?	[18:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59498765 BTC [+]	[18:38]
nubbins`	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50842076/HIFQuarterly%20Results%201Q2014.pdf	[18:38]
nubbins`	^ for all you suckers who didn't blow your wad on HIF	[18:38]
Shakespeare	they show a loss for past 2mos	[18:39]
nubbins`	Shakespeare: 179btc spent on "???", not bad	[18:39]
Shakespeare	1st Quarter Summary	[18:39]
Shakespeare	 User base increased 233%	[18:39]
Shakespeare	 Over 100,000 Unique Visitors to our site	[18:39]
Shakespeare	 Average Visitor Duration 7:08	[18:39]
Shakespeare	 7 New Funds Representing 13 Different Companies were added	[18:39]
Shakespeare	 Over ฿25,000 were traded	[18:39]
Shakespeare	 Support/FAQ web platform was successfully lunched	[18:39]
nubbins`	"average visitor duration" -- y'know, something that people give a fuck about :D	[18:40]
bounce	not the first time I hear someone complain that people don't pick up on this, and I'm probably extra double guilty, but from this armchair... er, well, it'll do, it's like, need a working culture of enthousiasm and picking up on things for people to do that. not everyone is enthousiastic from the get-go, but people'll pick up on it if the other sheep are doing it too, or if that's just the thing you do.	[18:40]
bounce	s/guilty/& too/	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	Shakespeare dude you ever heard of pastebin ?	[18:41]
Shakespeare	We were able to build the infrastructure for companies to	[18:41]
Shakespeare	raise capital through the Bitcoin protocol. Using the protocol first and foremost for what it was intended for: as a payment	[18:41]
Shakespeare	gateway. Individuals from all over the globe were able to participate directly in the new Funds that we offered.	[18:41]
Shakespeare	Over the past few months we received countless applications for the Bitcoin Venture Capital Fund. Going over countless	[18:41]
Shakespeare	business plans and financial projections, we can see the way Bitcoin is paving the way for a whole new economy. We are	[18:41]
Shakespeare	excited for the future of our company and the way we are able to bring those companies into the global market place.	[18:41]
thestringpuller	lololol	[18:41]
Shakespeare	Our team is working harder than ever to bring the users of our platform a diversified choice of Funds to choose from when	[18:41]
Shakespeare	they are putting their hard earned Bitcoins to work. We look forward to continue to serve our customers and the companies	[18:41]
Shakespeare	we partner with to the best of our abilities.	[18:41]
Shakespeare	Sincerely,	[18:41]
Shakespeare	The Havelock Investments Team	[18:41]
thestringpuller	oh no wall of text on irc	[18:41]
Shakespeare	sry	[18:41]
akstunt600	hmm pastebin is nice	[18:41]
bounce	apparently the log will have to do for a pastebin too. amazing versatility.	[18:41]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[18:41]
thestringpuller	;;google site:bitbet.us Then there was one	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	so danny works for havelock now ?	[18:42]
gribble	BitBet - And Then There Was One: ; BitBet: ; BitBet:	[18:42]
thestringpuller	looks more appealing now :D	[18:42]
Shakespeare	if you can deal with idiot pollution like minersdidit, i'm allowed a wall of text here and there	[18:42]
jurov	any change of getting a raping from assbot? << NOPE. I TRIED.	[18:42]
mike_c	I am not getting a clear picture of the potential customer issues the MPEx rfc is aiming to fix. Perhaps I am being thick.	[18:43]
bounce	who said I can deal with that? eyes glaze over, tune out, scroll by	[18:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC	[18:43]
pLambert	https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OFUpBh6yKATTlEZzVkNFN4STg/edit?usp=sharing	[18:43]
ozbot	HIFQuarterly Results 1Q2014.pdf - Google Drive	[18:43]
akstunt600	hahhahah Shakespeare	[18:44]
akstunt600	good point	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	mike_c me either ;/	[18:47]
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mike_c	is the goal to try to have some kind of proof in the case where a customer and mpex disagree on whether an order was accepted? or is is just to give the customer more tools to manage their orders.	[18:49]
jurov	mike_c: what you're on about?	[18:50]
mike_c	http://trilema.com/2014/mpexrfc1/	[18:50]
ozbot	MPEx.RFC.1 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[18:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	mike_c the later, imo.	[18:51]
jurov	oh the joy reads on	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	this thing with the order id keeps getting brought up for some reason	[18:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[18:52]
mike_c	ok. then i still agree with my comment about mpex accepting the count and updating.	[18:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00096231 = 18.8132 BTC [-] {3}	[18:55]
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jurov	you already had a dicsussion about that? my grep fu fails me	[18:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC	[18:59]
mike_c	just in the blog comments	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	yeah and ideally keep the discussion in comments	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	it'll get unfollowable otherwise	[19:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.15062784 BTC to 7`668 shares, 41088 satoshi per share	[19:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 307 @ 0.00072511 = 0.2226 BTC [-]	[19:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] [PAID] 0.63536437 BTC to 1`717`201 shares, 37 satoshi per share	[19:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 6 @ 0.14 = 0.84 BTC {2}	[19:02]
MisterE	jurov: I've had assbot on ignore since I got here so I might have already had one without knowing :)	[19:02]
MisterE	that dude so gets lighted a lot :)	[19:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 399 @ 0.00072511 = 0.2893 BTC [-] {2}	[19:04]
akstunt600	wish i had 30btc, i want some dividends	[19:04]
akstunt600	oh well, nobody expects the spanish Inquisition	[19:04]
MisterE	Goya's Ghosts	[19:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 352 @ 0.00072503 = 0.2552 BTC [-] {2}	[19:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC	[19:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.14 = 0.56 BTC	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	akstunt600 what do you need 30 btc for ?	[19:07]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I was probably on about some game thing. I had to address the Carbon Monoxide detector.	[19:07]
BingoBoingo	Thing was beeping every couple minutes to alert that it had reached its end of life.	[19:08]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: you won't believe this :x, yesterday some guy got in contact with me wanting to start a bitcoin meetup for my area, I go meet him and he tells me he has something from butterfly labs and that he plugged the US power supply into our UK sockets and broke it, so it has been sitting in the box since, didn't know which model it was or whatever, so I agree to go take a look	[19:09]
Azelphur	turns out, he has had a SC Single sitting in a box since November, dude burned so much money >.<	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur i saw in logs yest lol	[19:09]
Azelphur	ah hehe	[19:09]
benkay	fluffypony: how does a maid break an iron? defective maids or defective irons?	[19:09]
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Azelphur	I still can't believe that haha, how could someone end up with one of those...and then just leave it in a box	[19:09]
Azelphur	my brain is still full of wat	[19:09]
bounce	in soviet russia, iron maiden break you!	[19:10]
Shakespeare	it's the annual IPO festival in Jacksonville this week	[19:10]
Shakespeare	http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2014/04/11/startups-compete-for-crowdfunding-dollars-in-person-at-the-one-spark-festival/	[19:10]
ozbot	Startups Compete For Crowdfunding Dollars In Person At The One Spark Festival - Forbes	[19:10]
BingoBoingo	benkay: Probably a confusion of ideas. The maid should have been a dockworker.	[19:10]
Shakespeare	this year, they didnt use a bomb for the logo	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur because no clue.]	[19:10]
Azelphur	indeed	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	Shakespeare then they raise a barn ?	[19:11]
artifexd	Shakespeare: Should I go?	[19:11]
Shakespeare	it's not bad really	[19:11]
Shakespeare	best thing Jax has to offer	[19:11]
Shakespeare	though the next one will be in Berlin	[19:11]
Shakespeare	well, i suppose the port is actually the best thing jax has	[19:12]
Shakespeare	but yknow	[19:12]
artifexd	I'm partial to the beach	[19:12]
Shakespeare	never been to the one in jax	[19:12]
Shakespeare	there's one closer to me	[19:13]
artifexd	Nice, uh, scenery.	[19:13]
Shakespeare	i know a few people fundraising at onespark, it's kinda like a shark tank expo	[19:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05252358 = 1.0505 BTC [+] {6}	[19:14]
akstunt600	mircea_popescu, Iwas looking at mpex	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	youy know you can just get a broker	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	jurov dude you gotta advertise that thing, nobody knows about it!	[19:15]
Shakespeare	and you didnt turn to stone?	[19:15]
akstunt600	I saw that but who is legitimate?	[19:15]
Azelphur	akstunt600: I could do it for you if you wanted	[19:15]
MisterE	for sure jurov	[19:16]
jurov	i'll make an ads saying "coinbr is the legitimate broker" or what?	[19:16]
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akstunt600	I guess yeah multisig solves these probems with trust too	[19:16]
akstunt600	Hmmm	[19:16]
akstunt600	Thanks for the offer Azelphur	[19:16]
akstunt600	I will consider	[19:16]
Azelphur	;;bcauth Azelphur	[19:16]
gribble	Request successful for user Azelphur, hostmask Azelphur!~Azelphur@azelphur.com. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0358cd1b0ce056183b46488845777c93086083fa52335cf0dc273602	[19:16]
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mircea_popescu	jurov "don't wanna pay 30 btc ? use coinbr!"	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	it even rhymes	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	sorta	[19:17]
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Azelphur	;;bcverify HOsLCI2eb6NmGVWwfheeZeABeTD+nIBOEkIRrG460+PG6eIxdTmPOigg1emi3R3I0//oJZ3ztMSV4jJs+Pa35Bc=	[19:17]
gribble	You are now authenticated for user 'Azelphur' with address 144LmVdmgLy2rc9dGMhJfqb4fUmGWMMk9M	[19:17]
Azelphur	;;ratingsystem getrating azelphur	[19:17]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask Azelphur!~Azelphur@azelphur.com . User Azelphur, rated since Mon Apr 9 00:11:58 2012. Cumulative rating 232, from 162 total ratings. Received ratings: 150 positive, 12 negative. Sent ratings: 150 positive, 15 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Azelphur	[19:17]
Azelphur	akstunt600: ^ fyi	[19:17]
jurov	;;later tell akstunt600 where did you learned abut mpex?	[19:17]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[19:17]
jurov	he's gone	[19:18]
Azelphur	jurov: nope, still here, he rejoined :P	[19:18]
akstunt600	thanks Azelphur	[19:19]
akstunt600	im checking it out now	[19:20]
jurov	akstunt600 i was asking to get ideas where to advertise	[19:20]
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pLambert	jurov "don't wanna pay 30 btc ? use coinbr!" [12:17] it even rhymes <<< What they hell, how is that even close to a rhyme?	[19:20]
akstunt600	jurov, I was invited here by [\]	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	it's dyslexhrymia.	[19:21]
akstunt600	and saw the bot and people mention mpex	[19:21]
pLambert	I don't even see what you thought might rhyme?	[19:21]
akstunt600	read it and loved mircea_popescu attitude	[19:21]
akstunt600	sounds like me	[19:21]
akstunt600	lol	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	lol where you from ?	[19:22]
akstunt600	Philadelphia	[19:22]
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jurov	so basically i should bribe assbot to spam about coinbr. >:D	[19:22]
akstunt600	hahahh jurov yes	[19:22]
jurov	instead of these quotes.. kakobrekla, you'ere up to it?	[19:22]
akstunt600	I found coinbr while mucking about too	[19:22]
pLambert	I have a reference link to coinbr in my bitcointalk sig, but I don't think anybody ever clicks on those	[19:23]
akstunt600	but was getting sleepy llast night	[19:23]
jurov	kakobrekla in fact i can sell assbot's ad slots for you, so that you don't have to care about it	[19:24]
kakobrekla	morning	[19:25]
kakobrekla	where are these ad slots you speak of	[19:25]
jurov	!t show me ad instead of lame quote	[19:25]
assbot	I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	lmao assbot ads	[19:25]
kakobrekla	well, the quotes carry great educational value.	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla : you could sell contextual ads. replace the dumbass "amazing company" so that whenever someone says 30 btc assbot says "use coinbr!"	[19:26]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:26]
pLambert	that is an amazing idea	[19:26]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:26]
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kakobrekla	yeah but im not taking the amazing out	[19:26]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:26]
TomServo	kakobrekla: seems histographs are broken on bitbet	[19:26]
kakobrekla	now what	[19:26]
kakobrekla	?	[19:27]
Shakespeare	why so attachec to the amzing company kako?	[19:27]
kakobrekla	i dunno, maybe you are too fresh to know that	[19:28]
Shakespeare	<--- tat	[19:28]
kakobrekla	defo too fresh.	[19:28]
kakobrekla	:D	[19:28]
Shakespeare	lol i was here before you made it!	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	amazing before	[19:29]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:29]
thestringpuller	mos def too fresh and too amazing	[19:30]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:30]
pLambert	are there any other automated brokers besides Coinbr for MPEx?	[19:31]
thestringpuller	nope	[19:31]
Shakespeare	Cloudflare now saying they cant figure out how to get heartbleed to bleed keys	[19:31]
MisterE	cloudfare has 2-faces	[19:31]
the20year	are there any other meetups similar to onespark?	[19:32]
Shakespeare	its not a meetup, but i think SXSW has similarities	[19:32]
Shakespeare	and i know silicon valley does pitch events	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	pLambert not afaik. couldn't hurt anything to have more i guess.	[19:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC	[19:34]
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pLambert	heh, I will get right on writing one. How hard can it be? ;)	[19:34]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[19:35]
Shakespeare	i hear BTCT is selling its code	[19:35]
Shakespeare	great place to start!	[19:35]
pLambert	well, at least they had email updates when trades execute, unlike CoinBR	[19:36]
Azelphur	pLambert: be careful of jail	[19:36]
pLambert	jail?	[19:36]
Shakespeare	;;ud jail	[19:37]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jail \| Upload a picture of jail. 2. jail. being confined to a certain area that usually smells like the combo of piss, shit, feet, ass, nuts, body odor, lysol, and mildew for a ...	[19:37]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: jail	[19:37]
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the20year	oh boy, $1m in crowdfunding	[19:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03425 = 0.137 BTC [+] {3}	[19:44]
rithm	hashtag amaze	[19:49]
rithm	if i had a laser on the moon, i'd hold the world hostage for a million	[19:49]
MisterE	used to be geekniks	[19:49]
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benkay	http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/	[19:55]
ozbot	BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June	[19:55]
benkay	where's my double-digit and single digit bets, eh?	[19:55]
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*	jurov delivered withering response to mpex rfc.	[19:56]
jurov	though, i must admit that it could be good way to protect myself	[20:01]
jurov	when i;m under threat of rectothermals, i can just vaporize all coinbr holdings :D	[20:02]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 16 @ 0.0075 = 0.12 BTC [+]	[20:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.052987 = 0.159 BTC [+]	[20:03]
MisterE	think we'll see 300 before June eh?	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	lol jurov singlehandedly sunk the first rfc in bitcoin.	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF NAO	[20:04]
jurov	yup	[20:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05184778 = 0.1037 BTC [-]	[20:06]
Shakespeare	lucky to have him!	[20:07]
jurov	but now the enemy knows i have push papers buried somewhere D:	[20:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 214 @ 0.000725 = 0.1552 BTC [-]	[20:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[20:07]
jurov	no cardano will help mah	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	are they in your butt ?	[20:08]
jurov	ow, inconvenient	[20:08]
asciilifeform	;;google french anal safe	[20:08]
gribble	Anal sex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Kinky but safe French teen casting \| Redtube Free Teens Porn ...: ; Tackling the alcohol issue in france Anal fissures; first do no harm:	[20:08]
asciilifeform	fail.	[20:08]
MisterE	ol	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	This watch was on your daddy's wrist when he was shot down over Hanoi. He was captured, put in a Vietnamese prison camp. He knew that if the gooks ever saw the watch, it'd be confiscated and taken away. The way your Dad looked at it, this watch was your birthright. He'd be damned if any slope's gonna put their greasy, yellow hands on his boy's birthright, so he hid it in one place he knew he could hide something - his	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	ass. Five long years he wore this watch up his ass. Then, he died of dysentery. He give me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. Now, little man, I give the watch to you.	[20:08]
MisterE	^ Christopher Walken nails that	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	mhm	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	he's a kickass actor that guy	[20:09]
MisterE	such a fantastic movie	[20:09]
MisterE	yep	[20:09]
MisterE	Suicide Kings is another great role for him	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	hes even better in true romance imo	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	yeah but that movie suffered from a meh premise.	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	;;google trilema suicide kings	[20:09]
gribble	Februarie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Wikipedia : the special olympics for the mentally retarded ... - Trilema: ; Trilematograf pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.:	[20:09]
MisterE	oh gosh yea that's great	[20:09]
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TomServo	Brad Pitt was great in True Romance too, haha	[20:10]
MisterE	yep bad script but good acting from Walken and the fishboots actor ohh wtf his name	[20:10]
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MisterE	Denis Leary, one of the best scenes in film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWKrncseUw8	[20:11]
MisterE	Catch Me If You Can	[20:12]
MisterE	Deer Hunter was masterpiece	[20:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05254321 = 0.4203 BTC [+]	[20:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05254321 = 0.4203 BTC [+]	[20:15]
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BingoBoingo	http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/04/11/1636238/weev-conviction-vacated	[20:19]
ozbot	'weev' Conviction Vacated - Slashdot	[20:19]
BingoBoingo	Weev is free again	[20:19]
BingoBoingo	http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5020993&cid=46727029	[20:20]
ozbot	'weev' Conviction Vacated - Slashdot	[20:20]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC	[20:26]
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benkay	see also ibm and teh jooz: http://pcrcollective.org/?p=6994	[20:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00096454 = 15.4326 BTC [+] {3}	[20:49]
thestringpuller	benkay: you still around?	[20:50]
benkay	yup	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	TomServo perhaps his only good role. that's what the man was born to play.	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo dude, weren't they supposed to extradite me ? this is a step in the wrong direction!	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	what will the forum say!	[20:52]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: WHo knows? I mean apparently appelate courts care about piddly shit like "venue"	[20:53]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ahkgc/i_am_weev_i_may_be_going_to_prison_under_the/c8xgqq9 link to the canonical "i won't be nearly as nice next time".	[20:54]
benkay	thestringpuller: ??	[20:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC	[20:55]
asciilifeform	what'd this one do ?	[20:55]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: scraped a public web page and embarassed AT&T	[20:56]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you recall, weev, althauser ?	[20:58]
asciilifeform	ah yes	[20:58]
Mats_cd03	is a twat	[20:59]
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fluffypony	mircea_popescu: not sure if this is too personal a question, but were you born and raised in Romania? follow on question if yes - to what do you attribute your grasp of the English language, if it is not your home language?	[21:03]
Mats_cd03	12:56 — jurov delivered withering response to mpex rfc.	[21:03]
Mats_cd03	is this a blog post?	[21:03]
cryptolemming	Hi, anyone have info about http://www.bitcoininsanity.com/ ?	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony yes. and i speak a number of languages, which i attribute to women.	[21:04]
jurov	Mats_cd03: no just a comment on trilema	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	almost as good as a blogpost...	[21:04]
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fluffypony	cryptolemming: private domain registration and they're letting you buy Bitcoin with an easily reversible payment method?	[21:06]
fluffypony	bankrupt in 3......2.......1......	[21:06]
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cryptolemming	sure,same preconceptions, just wondering if anyone has more in-depth info	[21:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00096471 = 10.033 BTC [+] {2}	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	cryptolemming these aren't "preconceptions".	[21:07]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJESNw-P8s	[21:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0475 = 0.1425 BTC [+]	[21:08]
danielpbarron	cryptolemming: that's therealNano 's site	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	haha cool guy.	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	but not me.	[21:08]
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fluffypony	yeah he looks nothing like you, just thought it was a funny coincidence	[21:09]
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mircea_popescu	danielpbarron who's therealnano	[21:10]
cryptolemming	well, I mean, certainly a preconceived idea? as they aren't bankrupt or there is no real indication to assume they may be besides a reasonable assumption of what may occur?	[21:10]
danielpbarron	mircea_popescu: a #bitcoin-otc user	[21:10]
cryptolemming	feel free to insert what you thin is a more accurate word though, was still wondering if anyone had knowledge about the site and its owner	[21:10]
cryptolemming	*think	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	cryptolemming apparently you got a nick, you can pm him directly.	[21:11]
danielpbarron	cryptolemming: BCB said he has trusted the that site's owner with about 2 BTC	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	;;gettrust therealnano	[21:11]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user therealnano: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=therealnano \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=therealnano \| Rated since: Wed Jul 24 22:26:05 2013	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	apparently a coupla people i know trust him somewhat.	[21:12]
danielpbarron	ya, and I got some money on the line with him :/	[21:12]
cryptolemming	pming the owner will give me the owners opinions...trust certainly helps somewhat, thank you	[21:12]
fluffypony	cryptolemming: with a private domain registration, no. I'm sure someone can claim it's their site, but how can we know?	[21:13]
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cryptolemming	part of the reason why I was asking here	[21:13]
thestringpuller	fluffypony: gpg verification...	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	cryptolemming you can start by verifying if ineed the person registered in the wot runs that site.	[21:13]
cryptolemming	to see if anyone actually had any inf	[21:13]
fluffypony	thestringpuller: yes, I meant without him opting in to trust :)	[21:13]
cryptolemming	yup, thanks	[21:13]
cryptolemming	many ppl here know many ppl I do not, felt like it couldnt hurt to ask, pardon the interruption then	[21:14]
fluffypony	cryptolemming: not at all, no interruption, it's just that it's not really within the scope of #bitcoin-assets :)	[21:15]
cryptolemming	then I don't know the scope of bitcoin-assets	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	neither does he :D	[21:15]
fluffypony	nobody knows	[21:15]
cryptolemming	my impression was that it would be relevant place to ask, if not the best?	[21:15]
fluffypony	except the nose	[21:15]
fluffypony	the nose knows	[21:16]
danielpbarron	cryptolemming: #bitcoin-otc is probably the best place to ask	[21:16]
fluffypony	or #dogecoin	[21:16]
fluffypony	:-P	[21:16]
cryptolemming	ponies and doggies, got it.	[21:16]
cryptolemming	i'll throw it out there, what is the scope of bitcoin-assets then if someone wouldnt mind answering	[21:16]
cryptolemming	so I know for next time	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	cryptolemming you can ask whatever the hell	[21:17]
cryptolemming	sounds inviting :)	[21:17]
cryptolemming	ok cool	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	i don't even remember wat the furthers out queston on record was,	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	but probably something i came up with	[21:18]
JorgePasada	damn, kinda hoped the price was going to stay down a couple more days	[21:18]
fluffypony	cryptolemming: http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/	[21:19]
benkay	cryptography, quantum computing, feminism, racism, eugenics, communism, socialism, capitalism, stochastic calculus, multivariate calculus, rockets, random numbers, state compromise of crypto toolchain...	[21:19]
benkay	modern natural philosophy.	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	i think at some point we calculated the total mileage of stale cunt in the world...	[21:20]
benkay	;;ticker	[21:20]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 426.0, Best ask: 426.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 428.0, 24 hour volume: 54066.65501627, 24 hour low: 339.79, 24 hour high: 432.22, 24 hour vwap: 387.034644005	[21:20]
asciilifeform	fermi would smile	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ahgaga i was thinking the same!	[21:20]
cryptolemming	is that a gribble command?	[21:21]
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cryptolemming	I do read trilema fluffy thank you	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	"no no, questi sono piccoli!"	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	yes cryptolemming	[21:21]
benkay	me too, JorgePasada	[21:21]
JorgePasada	benkay: I'll be at the meetup on Tues, you be there?	[21:22]
benkay	ofc	[21:22]
*	rithm wouldn't admit to reading trilema	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	why not ?!	[21:22]
JorgePasada	Sweet!	[21:22]
*	rithm is all out of pokemon tokens to read blawg	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:22]
cryptolemming	ppl actually buy tokens?	[21:23]
rithm	i need moar tokens	[21:23]
cryptolemming	*cough, rithm stop impersonating me and making statements	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	well if they don't i have no idea where this 200 btc came from	[21:23]
BingoBoingo	cryptolemming: Yeah, he usually writes moar than five things a week	[21:23]
cryptolemming	:)	[21:23]
cryptolemming	good for you mircea	[21:23]
rithm	should i just use tor and proxies	[21:23]
rithm	to defaet the token system	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	why buy nsa tokens ?	[21:24]
BingoBoingo	Also have to look through the backissues to ogle the centerfolds	[21:24]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu might be keeping tor net alive single-handedly...	[21:24]
rithm	seems legit	[21:24]
rithm	i knew people used tor for _some_ reason asciilifeform	[21:24]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Or MP is helping the NSA identify the cheap bastards	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:25]
asciilifeform	the other nice thing about tor is that the most ragged hobo can be nsa	[21:25]
asciilifeform	(how? exercise for alert reader.)	[21:25]
rithm	mircea MIGHT be a CIA plant	[21:25]
rithm	i'm not saying he isn't	[21:25]
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asciilifeform	;;google the man who was thursday	[21:26]
gribble	The Man Who Was Thursday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Man Who Was Thursday: Gilbert K. Chesterton ... - Amazon.com: ; The Man Who Was Thursday: A Nightmare by G. K. Chesterton ...:	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	rithm alternatively, cia may be mp.	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	god knows everyone else is...	[21:26]
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cryptolemming	thanks for the answers and fun, im out, gb	[21:26]
rithm	i OSI myself	[21:26]
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rithm	sorry ONI	[21:27]
rithm	that's navy intel	[21:27]
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rithm	railguns and shit	[21:27]
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*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	ha-hA!	[21:28]
*	assbot gives voice to kakobrekla	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	so now : people in assbot's wot (l1 or 2) can get voice by id'ing with gribble	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	and once they do, they can also give voice to random noobs, like	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	!up rithm	[21:29]
assbot	Voicing rithm for 30 minutes.	[21:29]
*	assbot gives voice to rithm	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	the esteemed wao-ender TomServo jborkl and keonne are kindly asked to get into the wot so they may be seen by assbot	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell decimation same goes to you!	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell neil same goes to you!	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	!up gribble	[21:31]
assbot	Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.	[21:31]
*	assbot gives voice to gribble	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	shit you forgot to add gribs kako	[21:31]
rithm	hi	[21:31]
rithm	!up _aeon	[21:31]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:31]
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rithm	fuuuuu asbot	[21:31]
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mircea_popescu	that is only for cool ppls :D	[21:31]
rithm	;;deauth	[21:31]
gribble	Error: "deauth" is not a valid command.	[21:31]
rithm	;;unauth	[21:31]
gribble	Your GPG session has been terminated.	[21:31]
kakobrekla	yea need to do something about gribble	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	wanna bet on who ids next ?	[21:33]
rithm	!up _aeon	[21:34]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:34]
*	assbot gives voice to asciilifeform	[21:34]
rithm	;;gettrust assbot	[21:34]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask test40404040!59d42931@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.212.41.49. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user jcpham to user assbot: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=jcpham&dest=assbot \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot \| Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014	[21:34]
rithm	bloweth me	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	lmao]	[21:34]
kakobrekla	ok people are not getting it	[21:35]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: perhaps good idea - but now the hobos will go straight to your mail	[21:35]
kakobrekla	step 1: ident with gribble	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform that's ok, i dun read it anwyay	[21:35]
kakobrekla	step 2: pm assbot "!up"	[21:35]
kakobrekla	step 3: profit	[21:35]
asciilifeform	instead of being publicly flayed here	[21:35]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[21:36]
*	assbot gives voice to BingoBoingo	[21:36]
rithm	nope fuck it i gave up already	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform well... !up hobo you know ?	[21:36]
rithm	time for lunch	[21:36]
asciilifeform	lol	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	i suspect BingoBoingo will make a fortune in poopiesharpers from selling !up services.	[21:36]
benkay	;;ident	[21:36]
gribble	Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net', is identified as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 39F274AFBC7ACAC7, key fingerprint E908FB088F5FD6BB3581460F39F274AFBC7ACAC7, and bitcoin address None	[21:36]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Everyone has got to have their hustle	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	!up yours	[21:37]
assbot	Voicing yours for 30 minutes.	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	that may be a problem kakobrekla	[21:37]
kakobrekla	!up general_concern	[21:37]
assbot	Voicing general_concern for 30 minutes.	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	!up _POST['user'] = "1' OR 1 LIMIT 1	[21:37]
assbot	Voicing _POST['user'] for 30 minutes.	[21:37]
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kakobrekla	how is it a problem	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	i guess not rly.	[21:38]
kakobrekla	you herp derp too much with it	[21:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05226397 = 0.1045 BTC [-]	[21:38]
kakobrekla	and you get	[21:38]
kakobrekla	!down mircea_popescu	[21:38]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:38]
kakobrekla	lel.	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	assbot goes down on me ?!	[21:38]
kakobrekla	apparently he refuses.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	i couldn't take it anyway man, third time today	[21:39]
kakobrekla	:)	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	my penis is half digested by all the saliva	[21:39]
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rithm	yeah i tried !down mircea_popescu first too	[21:39]
rithm	no workie	[21:39]
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BingoBoingo	!up The_Butt	[21:40]
assbot	Voicing The_Butt for 30 minutes.	[21:40]
benkay	this'll change the dynamic somewhat.	[21:40]
kakobrekla	!down rithm	[21:40]
*	assbot removes voice from rithm	[21:40]
kakobrekla	yea it works like it should	[21:40]
BingoBoingo	!down Periscope	[21:40]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	lol poor guy	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	!up rithm	[21:40]
assbot	Voicing rithm for 30 minutes.	[21:40]
*	assbot gives voice to rithm	[21:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 914 @ 0.00072305 = 0.6609 BTC [-] {3}	[21:40]
benkay	!down rithm	[21:40]
*	assbot removes voice from rithm	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	jesus.	[21:40]
benkay	excellent.	[21:40]
benkay	!up ri	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	!up rithm	[21:40]
kakobrekla	you can only down the ones that have been upped	[21:40]
assbot	Voicing ri for 30 minutes.	[21:40]
assbot	Voicing rithm for 30 minutes.	[21:41]
*	assbot gives voice to rithm	[21:41]
rithm	it doesn't work anyways	[21:41]
benkay	!up rithm	[21:41]
assbot	Voicing rithm for 30 minutes.	[21:41]
*	assbot gives voice to rithm	[21:41]
rithm	i'm guessing because the nick differs	[21:41]
rithm	or assbot has bullshit trust	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	well i honestly do declare this makes -assets much closer to my dreamz.	[21:41]
benkay	!up the-rigging-boys	[21:41]
assbot	Voicing the-rigging-boys for 30 minutes.	[21:41]
kakobrekla	yeah wot nick must be irc nick	[21:41]
benkay	;;gettrust assbot	[21:41]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=assbot \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot \| Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014	[21:41]
rithm	busted	[21:41]
BingoBoingo	assbot finally gets revenge on all those who put it on ignore	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	!up nanotube check out the cool shit kako did with bots!	[21:42]
assbot	Voicing nanotube for 30 minutes.	[21:42]
*	assbot gives voice to nanotube	[21:42]
BingoBoingo	;;rate assbot 10 !up Periscope	[21:42]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 10 for user assbot has been recorded.	[21:42]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu so far its worse than before.	[21:42]
benkay	we have a new toy now kakobrekla	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	lol.	[21:43]
benkay	wheeeeeee	[21:43]
benkay	!down benkay	[21:43]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	so, anyone think this is a bad idea ?	[21:43]
benkay	!up benkay	[21:43]
assbot	Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.	[21:43]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[21:43]
benkay	huh does that expire?	[21:43]
benkay	!down benkay	[21:43]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:43]
kakobrekla	lets see!	[21:43]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: depends where the hobos now go.	[21:43]
rithm	probably the best/worst idea ever	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	!down benkay	[21:43]
*	assbot removes voice from benkay	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	whoa	[21:43]
kakobrekla	yeah	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla that's maybe a bit much	[21:43]
kakobrekla	nah	[21:43]
kakobrekla	ne upped himself	[21:43]
kakobrekla	became vounerable	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	oh i c	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:44]
kakobrekla	to !down attack	[21:44]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	hahahaha splendid	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	!down benkay	[21:44]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	yay. splendid indeed.	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	we have a built in consensus building mechanism now.	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	whoever wants it can just up himself.	[21:44]
benkay	why would one subject oneself to that once in assbot's wot?	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	this is one of those rare cases where the execution ensmartifies the design	[21:44]
asciilifeform	what's next? 'lasers' command takes ?	[21:45]
kakobrekla	lel	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	benkay maybe to see if there's a consensus on a given topic ?	[21:45]
benkay	so hi everyone	[21:45]
benkay	!up benkay	[21:45]
assbot	Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.	[21:45]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[21:45]
benkay	just down me if you think im tardifying the chan plz	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yes, as gps coords	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	benkay pretty much something like that.	[21:45]
benkay	this is going to make people hammer their gpg toolchains out	[21:46]
benkay	some are indubitably going to break their own security	[21:46]
BingoBoingo	I'm glad I waited on finishing the IRC how to.	[21:46]
asciilifeform	last i checked gpg didn't wear out from use.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	benkay -otc was +m in the old days too.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	and it worked splendidly well.	[21:47]
benkay	;;later tell bitcoinpete things have changed around here. ident with gribble and then !up yourself with assbot	[21:47]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:47]
benkay	asciilifeform: i'm talking about unforced errors. shortcuts put in to 'make life easier'.	[21:48]
asciilifeform	though i still need to do a robotic stress cycle test on the cardano trigger at some point.	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo you writing it up ?	[21:48]
benkay	!t h rent	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (505 shares, 3.78750000 BTC), 7D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (2573 shares, 19.29750000 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00703072 / 0.00750000 (27353 shares, 192.31117008 BTC)	[21:48]
asciilifeform	(don't be sad, it's replaceable!)	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	!down assbot	[21:48]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:48]
benkay	thieves i tell ya	[21:48]
benkay	!up assbot	[21:48]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:48]
benkay	!up mircea_popescu	[21:48]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:48]
benkay	only up oneself?	[21:48]
benkay	!up benkay	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	;;echo !up	[21:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00096166 = 6.395 BTC [-]	[21:48]
gribble	!up	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC	[21:48]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:48]
assbot	Need a nickname.	[21:48]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: In bits and pieces. Playing with a few different IRC clients as some research, but I'll probably shit it out client agnostic anyways.	[21:48]
benkay	;;echo !down gribble	[21:49]
gribble	!down gribble	[21:49]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	cause gribs has no autoritah.	[21:49]
benkay	could we get usernames in assbot responses?	[21:49]
benkay	handles nicks whatever	[21:49]
*	assbot gives voice to pankkake	[21:49]
benkay	!up benkay	[21:49]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	hello and welcome pankkake	[21:49]
benkay	!down benkay	[21:49]
assbot	Can't do that.	[21:49]
kakobrekla	ok gonna do some fixes	[21:50]
benkay	did the consensus mechanism not take?	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla don't fix the down vuln thing it's splendid	[21:50]
pankkake	hello, I'm not sure how I feel about that	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	pankkake well if you feel it sucks do tell.	[21:50]
pankkake	does assbot also allow n+1s? i.e. I trust The_Butt, can The_Butt !up itself?	[21:50]
benkay	you can !up The_Butt	[21:51]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.01793998 = 0.1256 BTC [+] {2}	[21:51]
pankkake	true. I just haven't found any influx of annoying people making +m worth it	[21:51]
pankkake	!up davout	[21:52]
assbot	Voicing davout for 30 minutes.	[21:52]
*	assbot gives voice to davout	[21:52]
kakobrekla	pankkake you need level 2 from assbot	[21:52]
pankkake	I see, so it can work	[21:52]
benkay	incentivizing wot usage	[21:52]
benkay	tie it into all the things	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	yeah what b said.	[21:53]
mircea_popescu	all it takes is for someone in assbot's primary trust to wot someone, he's now self-uping	[21:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 20 @ 0.0179789 = 0.3596 BTC [+] {7}	[21:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 21 @ 0.00669999 = 0.1407 BTC [-] {2}	[21:55]
BingoBoingo	So... basically the price of buttcoins has dropped to 0 BTC...	[21:55]
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BingoBoingo	Obama might actually have to sodomize himself if he shows up here and wants to talk.	[21:56]
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benkay	pankkake: it's an augmented +m	[21:58]
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*	assbot gives voice to Blazedout419	[21:58]
Blazedout419	ha	[21:58]
davout	ohai	[21:58]
Blazedout419	so just msg bot and you get a voice?	[21:59]
Blazedout419	what point does this serve?	[21:59]
kakobrekla	or pay BingoBoingo	[21:59]
Blazedout419	seems silly to set +m if it is that easy to get a voice ;D	[21:59]
davout	what's with the voice thing?	[21:59]
Blazedout419	this is my first time in this chan at that!	[21:59]
*	assbot gives voice to mod6	[22:00]
kakobrekla	its an assperiment	[22:00]
benkay	;;gettrust Blazedout419	[22:01]
Blazedout419	lol	[22:01]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Blazedout419 \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 \| Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013	[22:01]
Blazedout419	;;ratingsystem getrating Blazedout419	[22:01]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net . User Blazedout419, rated since Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013. Cumulative rating 253, from 115 total ratings. Received ratings: 115 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 121 positive, 3 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419	[22:01]
benkay	it's only easy for you 'cause you're deep in the wot, Blazedout419	[22:01]
Blazedout419	I get it	[22:01]
Blazedout419	didnt realize gribble was involved	[22:01]
pankkake	I updated my ignores, now /ignore -channels #bitcoin-assets -pattern HAVELOCK assbot	[22:01]
kakobrekla	;;this universe theinternets bitcoinotc wot can i has rating of ze Blazedout419	[22:01]
gribble	Error: "this" is not a valid command.	[22:01]
*	assbot removes voice from gribble	[22:02]
kakobrekla	lol pankkake	[22:02]
pankkake	deep in the wot, sounds dirty	[22:02]
Blazedout419	feels dirty too	[22:02]
benkay	"game starts at maxlvl"	[22:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 46.09389664 BTC to 80`674 shares, 57136 satoshi per share	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	Blazedout419 it seems perfect in that' it's easy for the right people.	[22:03]
Blazedout419	fair enough	[22:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.046 = 0.138 BTC [-] {3}	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	but you know, i figure it'd take some time for this to be digested and so we see if it actually is a good idea	[22:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.01799242 = 0.108 BTC [+]	[22:05]
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BingoBoingo	I swear I won't exploit journalists who want voice to discuss things... too much...	[22:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 663 @ 0.00017301 = 0.1147 BTC [+] {2}	[22:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0529871 = 0.4239 BTC [-]	[22:08]
BingoBoingo	http://www.bnd.com/2014/04/10/3155136/public-housing-resident-faces.html?sp=/99/166/179/	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	i guess we get to see how power corrupts	[22:08]
BingoBoingo	!up ozbot	[22:08]
assbot	Voicing ozbot for 30 minutes.	[22:08]
*	assbot gives voice to ozbot	[22:08]
BingoBoingo	!up jurov	[22:09]
assbot	Voicing jurov for 30 minutes.	[22:09]
*	assbot gives voice to jurov	[22:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.14 = 0.56 BTC	[22:09]
jurov	always at your service with some impertinent quip ready!	[22:10]
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BingoBoingo	robwhiz22: If you want voice ur gonna have to do butt stuff	[22:11]
*	assbot removes voice from rithm	[22:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05298633 = 0.159 BTC [-] {2}	[22:11]
jurov	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:126d5a90e3e8f29b46f702e6f9322fc1620560c9fc57be6b2e9b5e84	[22:11]
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*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[22:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0529858 = 0.106 BTC [-]	[22:12]
jurov	now this does not work too?	[22:12]
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mircea_popescu	too ?	[22:12]
kakobrekla	it works	[22:12]
kakobrekla	gribble just cant say shit	[22:12]
jurov	oh it did work	[22:12]
kakobrekla	ill add exceptions	[22:12]
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jurov	!up	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	not sure ozbot deserves one. his baits suck :D	[22:12]
assbot	Need a nickname.	[22:13]
nubbins`	;;aol i guess we get to see how power corrupts	[22:13]
nubbins`	oh blah	[22:13]
*	assbot removes voice from nanotube	[22:13]
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kakobrekla	"!up" is for private msg, "!up " is for chan	[22:13]
nubbins`	!up gribble	[22:13]
assbot	Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.	[22:13]
*	assbot gives voice to gribble	[22:13]
kakobrekla	cant have it any other way	[22:13]
nubbins`	;;aol i guess we get to see how power corrupts	[22:13]
gribble	i guess we get 2 see how power corrupts:-D:-D:-D	[22:13]
nubbins`	too much chatting going on in here, or what? ;D	[22:14]
BingoBoingo	wants voice. Do we bid and see who wants to sell out to the spammzor the cheapest? I'll sit this one out.	[22:15]
asciilifeform	lol!!	[22:15]
asciilifeform	mr. brokenrecord should pay.	[22:15]
nubbins`	hmm	[22:15]
nubbins`	was robwhiz22 the guy speaking in riddles about selling cardano flaws?	[22:16]
*	assbot removes voice from benkay	[22:16]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: read the pastebin?	[22:16]
nubbins`	i must've missed it. he actually coughed something up?	[22:16]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: that crap was him, one cycle of sockmuppetry ago.	[22:16]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: http://pastebin.com/mBLdFHzt	[22:16]
pankkake	;;view	[22:18]
gribble	#20297 Fri Apr 11 15:17:22 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 Sennheiser HD 580 Precision @ 0.32227 BTC (Used, tested, new pads #eu)	[22:18]
pankkake	let's see if it works	[22:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0529874 = 0.106 BTC [+]	[22:18]
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kakobrekla	why you selling those	[22:18]
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pankkake	I have better headphones	[22:18]
kakobrekla	which ones	[22:19]
pankkake	HD 650	[22:19]
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kakobrekla	aha	[22:19]
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asciilifeform	anyone who is curious what mr. spam wants should put on gas mask and read the turd.	[22:20]
asciilifeform	it isn't hard to figure out.	[22:20]
kakobrekla	ninja is robwhiz?	[22:20]
asciilifeform	loudly and abundantly	[22:20]
nubbins`	stopped reading halfway through	[22:20]
nubbins`	didn't think ninjashogun was robwhiz22 tho, ninjashogun has been derping here for ages	[22:21]
asciilifeform	it's him. he even confesses to preparing a new muppet in the end.	[22:21]
nubbins`	!up robwhiz22	[22:22]
assbot	Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.	[22:22]
*	assbot gives voice to robwhiz22	[22:22]
nubbins`	oh, heh.	[22:22]
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nubbins`	well, let's see what happens	[22:22]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: How much did you sell out for?	[22:22]
*	assbot removes voice from davout	[22:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0529874 = 0.7948 BTC [+]	[22:22]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo 0 satoshis	[22:22]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[22:22]
nubbins`	what can i say, i'm a lefty	[22:22]
jurov	Hi. How does one get voice in channel, please? I would like to follow up with Mircea Popescu on a proposal I sent him via email, to which he invited me to channel.	[22:22]
jurov	i asked him to pay 5btc first	[22:22]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: I know you are an artist, but... that cheap?	[22:22]
jurov	you can ask more	[22:23]
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benkay	the sweet sweet silence	[22:23]
kakobrekla	nubbins` how much for a buttcoin	[22:23]
nubbins`	i don't have any of those ;(	[22:23]
kakobrekla	ask your wifey	[22:23]
BingoBoingo	!up SatoshiJack	[22:23]
assbot	Voicing SatoshiJack for 30 minutes.	[22:23]
*	assbot gives voice to SatoshiJack	[22:23]
benkay	robwhiz22: the cost of admission is a sharpie in the pooper	[22:23]
BingoBoingo	SatoshiJack: Is ATC gambling a thing yet?	[22:24]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo: i'm not an artist ;D	[22:24]
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kakobrekla	but still cheap nubbins`	[22:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03640958 = 0.7282 BTC [+] {7}	[22:24]
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jurov	30minutes voice is not admission	[22:24]
benkay	entry? admission?	[22:24]
pankkake	rear entry	[22:25]
SatoshiJack	Getting there --- will be taking atc prob. by end of weekend..but you can play for free now :) and test the game play :)	[22:25]
nubbins`	30m voice is a sneak preview	[22:25]
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nubbins`	^ aaaaaaand he blew it	[22:25]
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nubbins`	just as well he didn't pay 5btc	[22:25]
benkay	well hey now let's give the man a chance	[22:26]
nubbins`	I don't really have anything public to discuss.	[22:26]
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benkay	what is this atc game?	[22:26]
*	nubbins` facepalms	[22:26]
BingoBoingo	benkay: I'm not sure which is why I voiced him	[22:27]
kakobrekla	so why the voice then ?	[22:27]
jurov	http://thefreethoughtproject.com/5000-armed-militia-members-arriving-bunkerville-nevada-today/#JEMI4oQUBwtc5zce.01 and so it begins. or it's a hoax, dunno	[22:27]
kakobrekla	e.	[22:27]
SatoshiJack	SJ -- will be taking atc --- been mining like hell to get a little bank going --- working on the backend support for it -- don't have all the function of blockchain.info over @ blockr...	[22:27]
BingoBoingo	SatoshiJack: Well you don't want to leverage a block explorer too much. I mean how often has Blockchain.info been down this month	[22:28]
kakobrekla	block has everything you need to process atc shit	[22:28]
kakobrekla	blockr	[22:28]
SatoshiJack	True that --- we were using some of the api to push some transactions -- but for many coins -- we will have to host a daemon as well -- for cold wallet etc...	[22:30]
SatoshiJack	none the less -- we are supporting it and working out all the details as we can --- but any play we can get at the tables and suggestions on game play etc is greatly appreciated!	[22:31]
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benkay	so uh rip out those avatars	[22:35]
jurov	just got an email from a coinbr user "i bought Bitcoin Hedge Fund on BitcoinBourse and want to list it on coinbr"	[22:36]
jurov	i was like god save us	[22:36]
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BingoBoingo	I wonder if dotcoin would put a whole pumpkin up his pooper for voice?	[22:37]
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SatoshiJack	LOL everyone hates the avatars :)	[22:37]
BingoBoingo	Just make an ncurses type interface. Everyone loves that	[22:38]
*	assbot gives voice to bounce	[22:38]
bounce	verily, a maze	[22:38]
SatoshiJack	I'm on it -- and with you -- code monkeys know not pretty ui...	[22:38]
BingoBoingo	www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/04/11/an-opportunity-for-readers/	[22:38]
bounce	so, uhm. how about a way to up and down the fence as needed, too?	[22:39]
BingoBoingo	Less graphics, moar text	[22:39]
*	assbot removes voice from ozbot	[22:39]
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*	assbot gives voice to ThickAsThieves	[22:39]
ThickAsThieves	<+mircea_popescu> so, anyone think this is a bad idea ? /// I'm conflicted	[22:40]
ThickAsThieves	what's the purpose exactly?	[22:40]
ThickAsThieves	to make sure we get no new blood?	[22:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-] {2}	[22:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00096166 = 4.6641 BTC [-]	[22:40]
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nubbins`	if not the purpose, certainly the result	[22:41]
BingoBoingo	ThickAsThieves: To make sure new blood doesn't have GRIDS	[22:41]
ThickAsThieves	i'm playing devil's advocate here	[22:41]
ThickAsThieves	but	[22:41]
nubbins`	;;ud grids	[22:41]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=grids \| Original medical acronym for AIDS. Stood for gay related immune disorder. Not a word of a lie. I used to have GRID, now I have AIDS. by Coleman January 16, ...	[22:41]
bounce	I expect the goal was to silence trolls like the one filling today's log for a goodly while. hence the raising and lowering of the fence suggestion.	[22:41]
ThickAsThieves	if we wanted our own cool kids room, couldnt we make it and have it in sikrit?	[22:42]
nubbins`	or, y'know, +v on join with the option to -v if too noisy/stupid	[22:42]
bounce	there's +q for that, too.	[22:42]
ThickAsThieves	if initiating noobs is a value held commonly here, isn't this a problem?	[22:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03699984 = 0.185 BTC [+] {3}	[22:42]
nubbins`	right, yes	[22:42]
BingoBoingo	I like this. This is different, and interesting.	[22:43]
nubbins`	efnet didn't have all these peculiar channel modes ;(	[22:43]
bounce	THIS IS FREENODE	[22:43]
*	assbot removes voice from gribble	[22:43]
ThickAsThieves	yeah it's fun n all, i'm just unclear what the pros are	[22:43]
bounce	but a +v on join would work too, I suppose	[22:44]
*	assbot gives voice to jurov	[22:44]
jurov	!up gribble	[22:44]
assbot	Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.	[22:44]
*	assbot gives voice to gribble	[22:44]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: Stealth enough? https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/454705676640456704	[22:44]
BingoBoingo	!up Periscope	[22:44]
assbot	Voicing Periscope for 30 minutes.	[22:44]
kakobrekla	:D	[22:44]
ThickAsThieves	it also adds inconvenience, like if i am mobile and wanna lurk and maybe comment, i dont wanna have to auth and have all tools needed to do so on my phone	[22:45]
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ThickAsThieves	\rant over for now	[22:45]
bounce	not disagreeing with you there	[22:45]
kakobrekla	have a bouncer?	[22:45]
*	nubbins` shakes head	[22:45]
nubbins`	/ignore	[22:45]
nubbins`	it's not that hard ;(	[22:46]
nubbins`	too much static? tune 'em out	[22:46]
bounce	doesn't work on the log	[22:46]
nubbins`	so? :D	[22:46]
ThickAsThieves	so maybe we can be less passive about moderating	[22:46]
ThickAsThieves	like when minersdidit pollutes for an hour, a couple can say hey kako can you mute this fucker?	[22:47]
ThickAsThieves	which leads me to a pro	[22:47]
nubbins`	or !mute with the same conditions as !up	[22:47]
ThickAsThieves	it takes responsibility out of kako's hands	[22:47]
BingoBoingo	But... but... Ologopoly	[22:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00008 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}	[22:47]
ThickAsThieves	decntralize the responsibilities!	[22:47]
nubbins`	Olegopoly: when people named Oleg are in charge	[22:48]
bounce	moar ops? plus obligatory WoTlink	[22:48]
BingoBoingo	Extortion, Corruption... Delicious Buttcoinz	[22:48]
benkay	nubbins`: https://olegdb.org/	[22:48]
kakobrekla	-assets doesnt have ops	[22:48]
BingoBoingo	http://www.vox.com/2014/4/11/5605236/russias-deputy-prime-minister-wants-to-annex-the-moon	[22:48]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html	[22:49]
nubbins`	i don't really want -assets to have ops	[22:49]
ThickAsThieves	NSA never heard of responsible disclosure? sheesh!	[22:49]
nubbins`	next thing ya know, people start acting like sookybums and kicking people they don't like	[22:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03520005 = 0.176 BTC [+] {2}	[22:49]
asciilifeform	everybody blames the mice.	[22:50]
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benkay	well kicked from ones wot	[22:51]
benkay	not the chan	[22:51]
benkay	and if someone in the WoT likes the person, they get voice	[22:51]
benkay	it's purt darn permissive, nubbins`	[22:51]
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*	nubbins` shrugs	[22:51]
nubbins`	let's see, i guess	[22:51]
benkay	there is now a hard technical prerequisite.	[22:52]
benkay	no more webchat users i imagine.	[22:52]
ThickAsThieves	13 people with voice	[22:52]
ThickAsThieves	welcome to the new order!	[22:52]
BingoBoingo	You can ident with webchat	[22:52]
nubbins`	!up *	[22:52]
assbot	Voicing * for 30 minutes.	[22:52]
nubbins`	bah	[22:52]
ThickAsThieves	!down nubbins`	[22:53]
assbot	Can't do that.	[22:53]
*	nubbins` cackles	[22:53]
ThickAsThieves	curses!	[22:53]
nubbins`	;;gettrust assbot	[22:53]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nubbins` to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nubbins%60&dest=assbot \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot \| Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014	[22:53]
ThickAsThieves	when is our last supper?	[22:53]
bounce	does it even ask gribble for the matching gribble nick?	[22:53]
benkay	well, nubbins` can !up himself, and then anyone can !down him.	[22:53]
nubbins`	anyone except tat	[22:53]
ThickAsThieves	!up nubbins`	[22:53]
assbot	Voicing nubbins` for 30 minutes.	[22:53]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[22:54]
*	assbot removes voice from SatoshiJack	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	!down nubbins`	[22:54]
*	assbot removes voice from nubbins`	[22:54]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[22:54]
nubbins`	worked that time	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	silly	[22:54]
nubbins`	wait, you can only be !downed by the person who !upped you?	[22:54]
nubbins`	!down benkay	[22:54]
assbot	Can't do that.	[22:54]
bounce	!up nubbins`	[22:54]
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assbot	Voicing nubbins` for 30 minutes.	[22:54]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[22:54]
nubbins`	!up benkay	[22:54]
assbot	Can't do that.	[22:54]
bounce	!down nubbins`	[22:54]
*	assbot removes voice from nubbins`	[22:54]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[22:55]
nubbins`	thoroughly confused	[22:55]
kakobrekla	you are	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	so what if i make a script that up/downs nubbins every time assbot sets mose +v?	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	mode*	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	then he's muted?	[22:55]
nubbins`	i type /timer 1 /msg assbot !up	[22:55]
BingoBoingo	!up truffles	[22:55]
assbot	Voicing truffles for 30 minutes.	[22:55]
*	assbot gives voice to truffles	[22:55]
nubbins`	the chan descends into chaos	[22:55]
kakobrekla	if you !up yourself through pm noone can !down you	[22:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.037 = 0.111 BTC [+] {2}	[22:56]
ThickAsThieves	yeah but i can up him myself	[22:56]
kakobrekla	if you are !upped from chan from someone else, everyon that is upped via pm can down you	[22:56]
ThickAsThieves	:/	[22:56]
BingoBoingo	truffles: Speak while you can	[22:56]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[22:57]
bounce	not sure about the 30 mins. if there's a !down...?	[22:57]
kakobrekla	you can atm still up yourself on chan after you up yourself on pm, i will make disable this nao	[22:57]
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benkay	if you up yourself in chan you'll get auto-downed as well 30 minutes later.	[22:57]
kakobrekla	this will be no more.	[22:58]
nubbins`	how in the world would you up yourself in the chan?	[22:58]
truffles	umm	[22:58]
bounce	up in msg then up in chan	[22:58]
nubbins`	o	[22:58]
benkay	!up Mats_cd03	[22:58]
assbot	Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.	[22:58]
*	assbot gives voice to Mats_cd03	[22:58]
truffles	didnt expect that itc :D	[22:58]
Mats_cd03	senkq	[22:58]
nubbins`	!down Mats_cd03	[22:59]
*	assbot removes voice from Mats_cd03	[22:59]
nubbins`	and this is supposed to cut down on cruft in the log?	[22:59]
benkay	volatility will never go away, nubbins`	[22:59]
kakobrekla	i dunno, todays will be pretty fucked nubbins` .	[22:59]
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nubbins`	HEH	[22:59]
nubbins`	yep,	[22:59]
benkay	shiny toys etc.	[22:59]
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truffles	no fun if every1 has one	[22:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00007156 = 0.1431 BTC [-] {10}	[23:00]
ThickAsThieves	;;estimate	[23:00]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 6500777905.29 based on data since last change \| 6694125249.86 based on data for last three days	[23:00]
benkay	Mats_cd03: you might consider that WoT entry...	[23:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 13325 @ 0.00006355 = 0.8468 BTC [-] {7}	[23:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05848999 = 0.2924 BTC [+]	[23:01]
jurov	indeed will be fcuked, there's no word about it here: http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[23:01]
benkay	jurov: BingoBoingo 's nominally writing something up.	[23:01]
jurov	or kako feared it woul met same fate as mpex rfc?	[23:01]
BingoBoingo	benkay: I am happy to be scooped	[23:01]
nubbins`	;;echo !up Mats_cd03	[23:02]
gribble	!up Mats_cd03	[23:02]
assbot	Can't do that.	[23:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]	[23:02]
benkay	are you actively working on it?	[23:02]
benkay	i just got blocked on building a vm so i could take a crack at it	[23:02]
jurov	;;echo ;;rate assbot 1	[23:02]
gribble	;;rate assbot 1	[23:02]
BingoBoingo	benkay: Doing baseball writing stuff, so go for it	[23:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 175 @ 0.0075 = 1.3125 BTC [+]	[23:04]
benkay	so let me get this clear	[23:04]
benkay	;;gettrust assbot	[23:04]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=assbot \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot \| Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014	[23:04]
*	assbot gives voice to artifexd	[23:05]
benkay	anyone on this (http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=assbot&sign=ANY&type=SENT) list gets voice automatically	[23:05]
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benkay	anyone in any of the next lists down, eg http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla&sign=ANY&type=SENT can get voice with ident as well	[23:05]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[23:06]
benkay	and anyone on either list can !up other folks?	[23:06]
nubbins`	incorrect, i didn't get auto-voiced	[23:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.058495 = 0.117 BTC [+] {2}	[23:06]
benkay	no it's not auto, my mistake	[23:06]
benkay	(can voice themselves via gribble and then assbot)	[23:06]
bounce	;;gettrust assbot benkay	[23:06]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user benkay: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=benkay \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay \| Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013	[23:06]
kakobrekla	yes, if you are on the assbot list and you rate someone, that is Level 2 to assbot, so that user can up itself and up others	[23:06]
BingoBoingo	!up HeySteve	[23:07]
assbot	Voicing HeySteve for 30 minutes.	[23:07]
*	assbot gives voice to HeySteve	[23:07]
bounce	the 30 mins is going to make people hand out ratings to stop having to !up so much	[23:08]
BingoBoingo	;;gettrust assbot BingoBoingo	[23:08]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Trust relationship from user assbot to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 7 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=BingoBoingo \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo \| Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013	[23:08]
benkay	doubtful.	[23:08]
benkay	up is cheap, bounce .	[23:08]
benkay	wot ratings are expensive, or should be.	[23:08]
benkay	;;gettrust tg2	[23:09]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user tg2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=tg2 \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tg2 \| Rated since: never	[23:09]
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bounce	up is annoying to have to do every 30 mins, and so either won't happen or cause a +1 to make the 30 mins limit go away	[23:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.05969588 = 4.1787 BTC [+] {6}	[23:10]
benkay	if the content is worthwhile, more ups will come forth	[23:10]
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benkay	if you're so free with your ratings, have at	[23:10]
truffles	content of what	[23:10]
bounce	it's also going to cause bunchteen extra lines in the log, for that matter	[23:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.06121619 = 2.265 BTC [+] {4}	[23:11]
benkay	maybe.	[23:11]
benkay	who cares, though.	[23:11]
artifexd	I'm inclined to be more selective with my ratings due to them automatically giving voice to someone in here. Asshatery is annoying.	[23:11]
benkay	ratings are your identity.	[23:12]
bounce	worthy of a bet if it could easily be proved	[23:12]
truffles	lol	[23:12]
benkay	bet on what now?	[23:12]
bounce	not everyone gets that. and it certainly puts the pressure on.	[23:13]
benkay	game starts at maxlvl.	[23:13]
mircea_popescu	jurov siounds hoaxy	[23:13]
artifexd	It seems to me, that the first advice anyone ever gets in here is "Get yo ass in the wot noob". Or something to that effect. These new rules give some teeth to that advice and start a precedent. "You followed our first piece of advice to get in here. Follow the rest, too."	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves to make sure the new blood we get isn't all that new.	[23:14]
*	assbot removes voice from gribble	[23:15]
benkay	there's literally no point to hanging around here without being in the wot now if you want to participate in conversation.	[23:15]
benkay	listening's still free.	[23:15]
truffles	oh i c	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	the idea being that this isn't where you first hang out if you just heard of btc last week	[23:15]
truffles	thats what #bitcoin is for	[23:15]
kakobrekla	or kako feared it woul met same fate as mpex rfc? <- no, we do it drunk on production and silently revert if it doesnt work.	[23:15]
benkay	;;later tell JorgePasada #bitcoin-assets just went wot-only for voice	[23:16]
truffles	no voice no chat?	[23:16]
BingoBoingo	truffles: No voice, whore self for voice to chat	[23:16]
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truffles	umk	[23:16]
benkay	yeah sharpie in pooper, truffles	[23:16]
benkay	!down truffles	[23:16]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves> if initiating noobs is a value held commonly here, isn't this a problem? << say this is college, not junior high	[23:16]
*	assbot removes voice from truffles	[23:16]
BingoBoingo	!up truffles	[23:16]
assbot	Voicing truffles for 30 minutes.	[23:16]
*	assbot gives voice to truffles	[23:16]
artifexd	benkay I have noticed that your first response to someone new is a gettrust to see how they relate to you. Not an "ident", but a "gettrust". That has said much to me.	[23:17]
truffles	tell me when the experiment is over	[23:17]
benkay	BingoBoingo: you gotta share	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	nothing wrong with being 15, but you don't belong in the college dorms. they like... drink there.	[23:17]
BingoBoingo	!down truffles	[23:17]
*	assbot removes voice from truffles	[23:17]
benkay	we all need to see the sharpie in truffles	[23:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 8978 @ 0.00006302 = 0.5658 BTC [-] {2}	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves> it also adds inconvenience, like if i am mobile << i guess you ask someone to v you ?	[23:17]
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kakobrekla	bouncers.	[23:17]
kakobrekla	welcome to 1990	[23:17]
BingoBoingo	lol	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	which leads me to a pro << the pro is that it's impersonal.	[23:17]
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benkay	!up Mats_cd03	[23:19]
assbot	Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.	[23:19]
*	assbot gives voice to Mats_cd03	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	wait, you can only be !downed by the person who !upped you? << you can only be downed if a) you don't meet the wot condition or else b) if you upped yourself.	[23:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 5489 @ 0.0000622 = 0.3414 BTC [-] {4}	[23:19]
kakobrekla	b is gonna be removed	[23:19]
benkay	no more bash?	[23:19]
kakobrekla	>b) if you upped yourself.	[23:20]
BingoBoingo	NeoBBQ is down to four zeros after the decimal place.	[23:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00096229 = 2.8869 BTC [+]	[23:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 15479 @ 0.000062 = 0.9597 BTC [-] {2}	[23:20]
ThickAsThieves	<+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves> if initiating noobs is a value held commonly here, isn't this a problem? << say this is college, not junior high /// fair enough	[23:21]
Mats_cd03	https://soundcloud.com/edward-sharpe-mag-zeros/better-days	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	content of what << should be his epitaph.	[23:21]
nubbins`	Mats_cd03: i saw those guys play in '10	[23:21]
ThickAsThieves	i've always been a fan of learning by doing	[23:21]
ThickAsThieves	if the voice thing sucks, itll show so	[23:21]
Mats_cd03	edward sharpe is super nostalgic for me	[23:21]
nubbins`	you can't bribe the future with nostalgia	[23:21]
Mats_cd03	i got my first bj in ninth grade listening to him singing at me	[23:21]
Mats_cd03	is nice	[23:22]
mircea_popescu	benkay I have noticed that your first response to someone new is a gettrust to see how they relate to you. Not an "ident", but a "gettrust". That has said much to me. << he's doing it right too.	[23:22]
HeySteve	hey I'm going to write on the baseball bet opportunity BingoBoingo highlighted	[23:22]
artifexd	kakobrekla: When did you start working on the auto-voice-by-wot feature?	[23:22]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla whay!	[23:22]
mircea_popescu	artifexd last night	[23:22]
HeySteve	never done any online betting though, so let me know if there's anything important I should mention	[23:22]
BingoBoingo	;;google trilema mutual betting	[23:22]
BingoBoingo	!up gribble	[23:23]
assbot	Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.	[23:23]
*	assbot gives voice to gribble	[23:23]
BingoBoingo	;;google trilema mutual betting	[23:23]
gribble	Least likely to succeed character : The upseller pe Trilema - Un blog ...: ; Trilenciclopedia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Februarie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.:	[23:23]
nubbins`	;;echo !down gribble	[23:23]
gribble	!down gribble	[23:23]
assbot	Can't do that.	[23:23]
nubbins`	i give up	[23:23]
kakobrekla	you were upped ?	[23:23]
kakobrekla	i mean, by	[23:23]
kakobrekla	someone else	[23:23]
nubbins`	i can't remember	[23:23]
kakobrekla	!down gribble	[23:23]
*	assbot removes voice from gribble	[23:23]
nubbins`	find out in a half hour i guess	[23:23]
kakobrekla	yea	[23:23]
Mats_cd03	oh wait the person im thinking of isnt edard sharpe	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves from what i've seen, there are many noobs that read the logs and came with their homwork done. those were rapidly accepted and are a pleasure to this day.	[23:24]
Mats_cd03	wtf	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	there are also the folks that just stumbled in. not only those were never accepted, but are kinda still derpy, even today.	[23:24]
BingoBoingo	HeySteve: Prolly this article is important http://trilema.com/2013/lets-understand-mutual-betting-together/	[23:24]
kakobrekla	imma make bot voicing permanent	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	so there seems ot be a pretty clear cleavage.	[23:24]
Mats_cd03	nubbins`: what venue did you go to	[23:24]
nubbins`	lollapalooza	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla the part where you can make your voicing temporary is not so good, maybe	[23:24]
nubbins`	beautiful grant park, chicago	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	but really indifferent	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	the part where you can make your voice vulnerable to !down however is great.	[23:25]
benkay	;;echo !down Mats_cd03	[23:25]
benkay	!up gribble	[23:25]
assbot	Voicing gribble for 30 minutes.	[23:25]
*	assbot gives voice to gribble	[23:25]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu as said, it is already remove, just need to reboot the assbot	[23:25]
benkay	;;echo !down Mats_cd03	[23:25]
gribble	!down Mats_cd03	[23:25]
nubbins`	heh	[23:25]
assbot	Can't do that.	[23:25]
Mats_cd03	gettin all up in my shit	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	sux.	[23:25]
artifexd	Is there anyone who stumbled in, did their homework in class, and is now accepted?	[23:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1151 @ 0.00071131 = 0.8187 BTC [-] {3}	[23:25]
nubbins`	artifexd: me, i guess	[23:25]
nubbins`	although if you promise not to tell anyone, i didn't really do my homework	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	artifexd not afaik. the general reaction is to get butthurt over how dares there be homework.	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	mebbe the sa kid, fluffypony	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	!up fluffypony	[23:26]
assbot	Voicing fluffypony for 30 minutes.	[23:26]
*	assbot gives voice to fluffypony	[23:26]
*	fluffypony hears his name	[23:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.063 = 1.008 BTC [+]	[23:26]
kakobrekla	do we want !up ?	[23:27]
fluffypony	I'm of the opinion that one should only be butthurt if one has actual sharpies in ones butt	[23:27]
fluffypony	one's butt	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla nah	[23:27]
pankkake	what about multi !up	[23:27]
nubbins`	kakobrekla too complicated	[23:27]
benkay	30m is perfect	[23:27]
kakobrekla	nubbins` you are stupid.	[23:27]
nubbins`	tell that to my uh	[23:27]
*	nubbins` thinks	[23:27]
kakobrekla	:D	[23:27]
benkay	if there's anything else worth coming out of those so upped, people can up them again	[23:27]
nubbins`	YOU'RE STUPID ;(	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` you mean stupd	[23:28]
nubbins`	stipud	[23:28]
bounce	IMO, yeah. can keep the default 30 mins but an optional duration would be good	[23:28]
*	MGK (42421ed3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.66.30.211) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.063 = 0.504 BTC [+]	[23:28]
*	pLambert is now known as peterl	[23:28]
*	bounce expects something like that'll be wanted before too long	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	!up peterl	[23:28]
assbot	Voicing peterl for 30 minutes.	[23:28]
*	assbot gives voice to peterl	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	dja understand how this shit works ?	[23:28]
*	ChanServ removes voice from peterl	[23:29]
mircea_popescu	uh	[23:29]
kakobrekla	dafuq was dat	[23:29]
nubbins`	a challenger emerges!	[23:29]
*	nubbins` scrambles to prepare a bitbet	[23:29]
mircea_popescu	he devoiced himself ?	[23:29]
kakobrekla	!up peterl	[23:29]
assbot	Voicing peterl for 30 minutes.	[23:29]
*	assbot gives voice to peterl	[23:29]
artifexd	A topic change would be useful.	[23:29]
peterl	hi?	[23:29]
nubbins`	HI	[23:29]
mircea_popescu	peterl did you just remove your own voice a sec ago ?	[23:29]
kakobrekla	dunno	[23:30]
fluffypony	artifexd: you mean like the actual channel topic? or you mean about what we're talking about?	[23:30]
peterl	no, maybe you upped me before I finished identing?	[23:30]
artifexd	Channel topic	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	the actual chan topic, and he has a point	[23:30]
ThickAsThieves	http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/04/11/cyprus-police-issue-arrest-warrant-for-bitcoin-entrepreneur/	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	ah right	[23:30]
jurov	!up ozbot	[23:30]
assbot	Voicing ozbot for 30 minutes.	[23:30]
*	assbot gives voice to ozbot	[23:30]
jurov	.bait	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves omg are they extraditing danny ?!	[23:30]
nubbins`	/topic #bitcoin-assets msg mircea_popescu for voice	[23:30]
ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/8ed68865335e0bc17beb67cd94862b99/tumblr_mt12kwXiBC1qhcgfoo1_1280.jpg	[23:30]
jurov	!down ozbot	[23:30]
kakobrekla	nubbins` :D	[23:30]
*	assbot removes voice from ozbot	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` you're the liberal. they should msg you	[23:30]
peterl	so if we don't get upped for 30 min then we lose our voice?	[23:30]
nubbins`	no need, i may start upping on join	[23:31]
*	mjr_ (~Thunderbi@ec2-54-197-218-61.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` imo that's a good move.	[23:31]
nubbins`	you'll never silence the voice of the voiceless@!#$	[23:31]
pankkake	is Cyprus Mail reliable?	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	no srsly, good thing.	[23:31]
nubbins`	!up mjr_	[23:31]
assbot	Voicing mjr_ for 30 minutes.	[23:31]
*	assbot gives voice to mjr_	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	pankkake well sort-of.	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	peterl read teh log cause it's all in there	[23:31]
ThickAsThieves	<+pankkake> is Cyprus Mail reliable? /// dunno, it appears to be	[23:32]
nubbins`	how else you think people are gonna get their magazines full of neo ads	[23:32]
*	smidge has quit (Quit: sorry, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck...)	[23:32]
pankkake	some websites seems to take bitcointalk as a source which in turns takes the website as a source	[23:32]
nubbins`	smidge's quit msg is so cringeworthy	[23:33]
pankkake	kinda like wikipedia and newspapers	[23:33]
pankkake	remove the extra 's's	[23:33]
ThickAsThieves	smidge is cringeworthy	[23:33]
nubbins`	well i guess he should keep it	[23:33]
nubbins`	it's the irc equivalent of a "^ the man v the legend" t-shirts	[23:34]
pankkake	his quit has been quoted on his fund's thread. appropriate	[23:34]
mircea_popescu	20 voiced. no more last supper.	[23:34]
nubbins`	i ever tell you guys my father in law is in a painting of the last supper?	[23:35]
*	thestringpuller (~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) has left #bitcoin-assets	[23:35]
*	thestringpuller (~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	!up thestringpuller	[23:35]
benkay	http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html	[23:35]
assbot	Voicing thestringpuller for 30 minutes.	[23:35]
*	assbot gives voice to thestringpuller	[23:35]
nubbins`	massive triptych over the doors of the church i attended from kindergarten through grade nine	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	pretty cool	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	he paid for it or such ?	[23:36]
benkay	kakobrekla: feel free to link to that from bitcoin-assets.com	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	prolly needs a shortener	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	also explain the dynamics of !up/!down in chan	[23:37]
nubbins`	nah, friends w/ the artist	[23:37]
benkay	yessir mr mircea_popescu sir	[23:37]
*	assbot removes voice from HeySteve	[23:37]
nubbins`	i believe he was Thaddeus	[23:37]
peterl	benkay: that seems to say you need to be linked to assbot through WOT, but it seems others can give you voice instead?	[23:38]
benkay	yup. incomplete.	[23:38]
peterl	like, I don't think I have any connections in the WOT?	[23:38]
BingoBoingo	!up HeySteve	[23:38]
assbot	Voicing HeySteve for 30 minutes.	[23:38]
*	assbot gives voice to HeySteve	[23:38]
*	assbot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[23:38]
nubbins`	all of the apostles were based on people the artist knew	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	;;gettrust peterl	[23:38]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user peterl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=peterl \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=peterl \| Rated since: never	[23:38]
*	assbot (~assbot@78.46.215.65) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:38]
*	assbot has quit (Changing host)	[23:38]
*	assbot (~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:38]
*	ChanServ gives channel operator status to assbot	[23:38]
kakobrekla	!up mpexbot	[23:39]
assbot	Voicing mpexbot indefinitely.	[23:39]
*	assbot gives voice to mpexbot	[23:39]
nubbins`	several decades later, most of them are dead, in jail, bankrupt, etc	[23:39]
kakobrekla	!down gribble	[23:39]
assbot	Can't do that, kakobrekla.	[23:39]
kakobrekla	!up gribble	[23:39]
assbot	Voicing gribble indefinitely.	[23:39]
*	assbot gives voice to gribble	[23:39]
kakobrekla	!up ozbot	[23:39]
assbot	Voicing ozbot indefinitely.	[23:39]
*	assbot gives voice to ozbot	[23:39]
*	assbot removes voice from mpexbot	[23:39]
*	assbot removes voice from gribble	[23:39]
*	assbot removes voice from ozbot	[23:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06499999 = 0.13 BTC [+] {2}	[23:39]
kakobrekla	aha!	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	!up kakobrekla	[23:39]
assbot	Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes.	[23:39]
*	assbot gives voice to kakobrekla	[23:39]
kakobrekla	meh.	[23:40]
mircea_popescu	this is like the facebook like button basically	[23:40]
bounce	based on what?	[23:40]
fluffypony	lol	[23:40]
bounce	[like] [+1] [+v]	[23:40]
nubbins`	;;echo !up Apocalyptic	[23:41]
nubbins`	dammit	[23:41]
nubbins`	!up gribble	[23:41]
assbot	Voicing gribble indefinitely.	[23:41]
*	assbot gives voice to gribble	[23:41]
artifexd	!up gribble	[23:41]
assbot	Voicing gribble indefinitely.	[23:41]
*	assbot gives voice to gribble	[23:41]
nubbins`	;;echo !up Apocalyptic	[23:41]
gribble	!up Apocalyptic	[23:41]
assbot	Can't do that, gribble.	[23:41]
nubbins`	BUT WHY ;(	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	haha	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	because gribble sux!	[23:41]
*	assbot removes voice from gribble	[23:41]
pankkake	kakobrekla: bots can probably be autovoiced by chanserv, provided they identify	[23:41]
HeySteve	what is this about assbot and WoT?	[23:41]
kakobrekla	oh yeah	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	HeySteve benkay is writing a better article	[23:42]
kakobrekla	that would be better pankkake .	[23:42]
bounce	;;echo !up Apocalyptic	[23:42]
fluffypony	kakobrekla: is the 30 min counter fixed or does it reset on activity?	[23:42]
kakobrekla	fixd	[23:42]
mircea_popescu	reset on activity ?! what is this, cornucopia ?	[23:42]
nubbins`	you had me at corn	[23:43]
nubbins`	bbl, work to do	[23:43]
fluffypony	pornucopia	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	that, it is.	[23:43]
jurov	!up Apocalyptic	[23:43]
assbot	Voicing Apocalyptic for 30 minutes.	[23:43]
*	assbot gives voice to Apocalyptic	[23:43]
pankkake	you had me at corps nu	[23:43]
*	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla	[23:43]
HeySteve	oh I missed the article. that's clear enough	[23:43]
fluffypony	http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/11/5605444/the-nsa-has-exploited-heartbleed-bug-for-years-bloomberg-reports	[23:43]
benkay	kakobrekla there's also #bitcoin-otc-events, the bot could listen in there for auth events for people in this channel and auto-voice	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	o, bloomberg reports ? heh.	[23:44]
peterl	how does it tell the difference between bots and other users?	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	bots are registered	[23:44]
BingoBoingo	HeySteve: Where do you write at?	[23:44]
HeySteve	http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/	[23:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.06499999 = 3.25 BTC [+] {3}	[23:45]
*	ChanServ gives voice to gribble	[23:45]
*	ChanServ gives voice to ozbot	[23:46]
*	ChanServ gives voice to mpexbot	[23:46]
Mats_cd03	http://www.hillydilly.com/2014/04/chet-faker-built-on-glass/	[23:46]
ozbot	Chet Faker – Built on Glass \| Hillydilly	[23:46]
*	kleinessteak (~kleinesst@dslb-088-068-075-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:47]
benkay	anyone can down someone who's been upped, correct?	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	yea	[23:47]
pankkake	!down benkay	[23:47]
assbot	Can't do that, pankkake.	[23:47]
kakobrekla	anyone = people who were upped via pm	[23:48]
peterl	only the cool kids	[23:48]
peterl	can you !down yourself?	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	no.	[23:48]
artifexd	!up mircea_popescu	[23:48]
assbot	Voicing mircea_popescu for 30 minutes.	[23:48]
*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[23:48]
artifexd	!down mircea_popescu	[23:48]
*	assbot removes voice from mircea_popescu	[23:48]
artifexd	lol	[23:48]
Mats_cd03	https://microcorruption.com/ re-advertising for anyone interested in a memory corruption CTF	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	uh!	[23:48]
ozbot	Embedded Security CTF	[23:48]
*	#bitcoin-assets :Cannot send to channel	[23:48]
kakobrekla	that is a problem.	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	hardly	[23:48]
*	#bitcoin-assets :Cannot send to channel	[23:48]
artifexd	!up mircea_popescu	[23:49]
assbot	Voicing mircea_popescu for 30 minutes.	[23:49]
*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	ok, that is a problem.	[23:49]
benkay	hahaha	[23:49]
kakobrekla	is what i said.	[23:49]
mod6	haha	[23:49]
fluffypony	heh	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	some people only understand what's said from experience you know ?	[23:49]
*	Luke-Jr has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[23:49]
benkay	and we call those people...	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	!up benkay	[23:49]
assbot	Can't do that, mircea_popescu.	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	...	[23:49]
benkay	HAW	[23:49]
benkay	hahahahaha	[23:49]
BingoBoingo	Insufficiant corruption:	[23:50]
artifexd	Now THAT was funny	[23:50]
BingoBoingo	http://msn.foxsports.com/midwest/story/police-no-arrest-in-case-involving-mizzou-s-dgb-041014	[23:50]
ozbot	Police: no arrest in case involving Mizzou's DGB \| FOX Sports on MSN	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:50]
mod6	it might just be better to /kick guys who spam the channel	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	anyway yeah ideally only people uped in chan can be downed in chan	[23:50]
*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[23:51]
thestringpuller	!up mircea_popescu	[23:51]
kakobrekla	try to down benkay now	[23:51]
assbot	Voicing mircea_popescu for 30 minutes.	[23:51]
*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[23:51]
kakobrekla	meh	[23:51]
thestringpuller	!down mircea_popescu	[23:51]
*	assbot removes voice from mircea_popescu	[23:51]
kakobrekla	you fuckied it up thestringpuller	[23:51]
thestringpuller	:( sorry	[23:51]
*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[23:51]
benkay	I eagerly anticipate BingoBoingo and my first !up !down war over truffles	[23:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3197 @ 0.00096195 = 3.0754 BTC [-]	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	so what am i trying hiar ?	[23:51]
kakobrekla	try !down benkay	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	!down benkay	[23:52]
assbot	Can't do that, mircea_popescu.	[23:52]
kakobrekla	aha. k	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	!up benkay	[23:52]
assbot	Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.	[23:52]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	!down benkay	[23:52]
*	assbot removes voice from benkay	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	!up benkay	[23:52]
assbot	Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.	[23:52]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[23:52]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[23:52]
benkay	ey.	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	!up benkay	[23:52]
assbot	Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.	[23:52]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[23:52]
benkay	no stop.	[23:52]
fluffypony	!up fluffypony	[23:52]
assbot	Can't do that, fluffypony.	[23:52]
benkay	staaaahp.	[23:52]
benkay	!down benkay	[23:52]
assbot	Can't do that, benkay.	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	!stahp benkay	[23:52]
fluffypony	!vengaboys	[23:52]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[23:52]
kakobrekla	fluffypony :D	[23:52]
fluffypony	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlv672jqbtE&feature=kp	[23:53]
ozbot	Vengaboys - Up & Down - YouTube	[23:53]
benkay	;;echo !down benkay	[23:53]
gribble	!down benkay	[23:53]
*	assbot removes voice from benkay	[23:53]
artifexd	Maybe up should check to see if that person already has voice. If so, nop	[23:53]
*	assbot gives voice to benkay	[23:53]
benkay	faugh.	[23:53]
BingoBoingo	benkay: As long as we both get the butt it is cool	[23:53]
benkay	i suppose	[23:53]
benkay	i am going to quash that dumbass with aggression at the slightest provocation, though.	[23:54]
benkay	s/aggression/prejudice	[23:54]
peterl	I feel like all this !up and !downing is adding cruft to the chan ... this will go away when people are used to the new toy?	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	peterl hopefully.	[23:55]
benkay	will bitcoin volatility go down someday?	[23:55]
artifexd	Just working out the bugs right now.	[23:55]
benkay	testing	[23:55]
benkay	in proderption	[23:55]
thestringpuller	cowboy coding	[23:55]
benkay	time honored traderption for the assettes.	[23:55]
thestringpuller	;;ud cowboy coding	[23:55]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=code%20cowboy \| random A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z # new tv. trending. hipster · neknominate · lumpatious · tittybong · poopsterbate · dtf · spectaphile ...	[23:55]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: code cowboy	[23:55]
BingoBoingo	I feel like we need a bot named Periscope now, but I can't imagine what it would do.	[23:55]
benkay	;;ticker	[23:56]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 420.66, Best ask: 422.09, Bid-ask spread: 1.43000, Last trade: 422.1, 24 hour volume: 52601.17322849, 24 hour low: 339.79, 24 hour high: 432.22, 24 hour vwap: 387.971082833	[23:56]
peterl	a better version of ozbot bait?	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	ya srsly. upskirts.	[23:56]
peterl	maybe views from colonoscopies? Or is that too far up the skirt?	[23:56]
ThickAsThieves	btcusd is stoned	[23:57]
mod6	haha	[23:57]
ThickAsThieves	bitbet idea!	[23:57]
asciilifeform	from the crackpot brigade:	[23:57]
fluffypony	BingoBoingo: pop up and post porn when its upped	[23:57]
asciilifeform	http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch	[23:57]
ThickAsThieves	BTCUSD will be 420 on 4/20	[23:57]
ozbot	» Breaking: Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a wa	[23:57]
thestringpuller	wasn't that already a bit bet?	[23:58]
ThickAsThieves	surely not	[23:58]
thestringpuller	last year they did that	[23:58]
thestringpuller	when btc was ~100-200	[23:58]
ThickAsThieves	really?	[23:58]
ThickAsThieves	lies	[23:58]
thestringpuller	yea. is there bitbet archives? (closed bets)	[23:58]
ThickAsThieves	no you are right	[23:58]
benkay	check the search dropdowns, thestringpuller	[23:58]
ThickAsThieves	http://bitbet.us/bet/403/bitcoin-at-420-on-or-before-4-20/	[23:58]
ozbot	BitBet - Bitcoin at $420 on or before 4/20	[23:59]
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