Forum logs for 09 Nov 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

BingoBoingo	Seriously the two episodes which triggered this were drunk white kids who said "nigger". Fighting that is like fighting entropy. It's just going to keep happening.	[00:00]
BingoBoingo	It's going to be Obama all over again.	[00:01]
BingoBoingo	The University system is probably going to get a black president, drunk white kids will keep being drunk white kids, and that's that	[00:03]
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mod6	thanks asciilifeform	[00:33]
mod6	<+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1320255 << congrats mod6 ! anybody tested ? << yeah, let me know if any of you have questions/comments/problems.	[00:33]
assbot	Logged on 08-11-2015 21:44:33; mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000179.html	[00:33]
mod6	shinohai: nothing intentional really	[00:34]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320381 << do you know about the nika riots ?	[00:47]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 02:40:47; BingoBoingo: A lotta bipeds take the sports thing pretty srs in spite of alf's protests	[00:47]
BingoBoingo	No, pls to enlighten?	[00:47]
asciilifeform	http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/blue-versus-green-rocking-the-byzantine-empire-113325928/?no-ist << summary picked at random	[00:47]
assbot	Blue versus Green: Rocking the Byzantine Empire \| History \| Smithsonian ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRgaXD )	[00:47]
BingoBoingo	Ah, interesting	[00:50]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: in our own time - there was 'la guerra del futbol'	[00:51]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: ergo usa sport folks have a long way to go.	[00:52]
asciilifeform	before 'seriously'.	[00:52]
asciilifeform	supposedly, la guerra del futbol was the last engagement of piston-engined fighters on both sides	[00:54]
BingoBoingo	I guess, though some of the US sports rivalries carry over sentiment from border skirmishes like Missouri/Kansas	[00:59]
BingoBoingo	But that now only typically gets as violent as the occasional vandalism or isolated mugging/curb stomping	[01:02]
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BingoBoingo	Oh, now the Atlantic supports FPH https://archive.is/MX5we	[01:17]
assbot	A Case for Shaming Obese People, Tastefully - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRhM3F )	[01:17]
BingoBoingo	Socialists are realizing the MayoGendered are ruining their ObolaCare experienc	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	whole shebang's fracturing every which way.	[01:22]
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BingoBoingo	Seriously. Might go to bed early tonight for the Monday Funday drama	[01:24]
BingoBoingo	It's looking like the only way the 'Murican left survives to 2020 is a Ben Carson or Ted Cruz win.	[01:28]
BingoBoingo	Though the US Presidency hasn't been a win in a long time	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	they better be spending half the day on knees praying mr toupe wins, because if he does there won't be power vacuum for young corporal/painter to take over.	[01:30]
BingoBoingo	Trump can't actually win. No such thing as electoral bankruptcy law.	[01:33]
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phf	mircea_popescu: sorry about not picking up mushrooms, right after i finished the port, i did a move to DC area, and then, after few days, left for a trade show, which i just came back from. i started working on a text only client for eulora, but i didn't get far enough to claim my items with it.	[01:41]
phf	which brings me to the point that i have folders for all but "make new hardware" item in that list of b-a scope in various states of disarray, and it would be great if there was some prioritization, like it was the case with eulora "oh we need this done, you do it".	[01:41]
phf	i have some code for gossipd, i'm going to by the spec that's published on trilema, rather then follow up conversation about udp and first packet validation. i wrote enough in c to be able to prime gpg machinery and send packets over the wire (which basically coveres things that i wasn't sure how to do before i started), then i switched to common lisp to get a prototype up. what came out of that so far is updated bindings for lisp	[01:42]
phf	support of gpgme. the bindings come standard with gpgme release, but what's there was not updated since 2008. officially artifex is still working on that, but i take it nobody's heard from him in a while?	[01:42]
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trinque	jurov │ kakobrekla or whoever, pls make http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj working again << I believe I have that link pointed to the correct place now.	[01:58]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1XYpqv2 )	[01:58]
mod6	eh, i think that was supposed to point at the treasurers document	[01:59]
mod6	?	[02:00]
trinque	mod6: ah, ok. and the one in the body of the article is this one?	[02:00]
trinque	if nobody remembers I can figure it out myself.	[02:00]
mod6	yeah, i don't recall. i had thought that maybe that deed was intended to point at the treasurers doc since it has the foundation donation address in there.	[02:02]
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mod6	might be worth a look to see what's what there.	[02:02]
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mircea_popescu	phf no big deal, s'just a game	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	re the meat : all of these are major projects, the expectation, imo reasonable, is that whoever decides to work on one starts by publishing code, which will vehehehery likely need refactoring perhaps even redesign. because we're here shooting in the dark. so rather than managerial idiocy, i much prefer somnething like how v worked out.	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	publish a prototype, im sure alf will be more than happy to look through it, plenty other people will test it etc.	[02:10]
mod6	trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2014#911918	[02:11]
assbot	Logged on 05-11-2014 23:25:15; mod6: yeah got this: http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj	[02:11]
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mod6	maybe it was the charter	[02:12]
asciilifeform	phf: callouts to gpg are a dead end	[02:12]
asciilifeform	phf: and i specifically didn't go with cl because this thing CANNOT cons	[02:12]
asciilifeform	try to understand why, on your own	[02:12]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform they're not a dead end for the following reason : the P must be a stand-alone building block anyway.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	they'll, if nothing else, help us understand the api to it.	[02:13]
asciilifeform	standalone in the sense mpi was in gpg.	[02:13]
asciilifeform	(statically linked lib)	[02:13]
asciilifeform	but not separate process.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	standalone in the sense that ... well yes.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	but i want it to be one thing and everyone statically links IT	[02:13]
asciilifeform	aha.	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	rather than five different reimplementations	[02:14]
asciilifeform	that's what i turned mpi into.	[02:14]
trinque	punkman: what did those values in the URL stand for, and I can just regenerate them from what I pulled from your sqlite	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	so in this sense the design is sane, as he has it. callout to "gpg", to be replaced by p	[02:14]
asciilifeform	'callout' means something particular, customarily	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	he didn't use the word.	[02:14]
asciilifeform	'i wrote enough in c to be able to prime gpg machinery and send packets over the wire' suggested callout. but why not wait till phf wakes up and clarifies.	[02:15]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[02:16]
phf	asciilifeform: gpgme doesn't exactly "calls out", it talks to gpg via a text protocol, but i agree with your overall point. gossip has a fixed set of crypto operations, that can be abstracted, until you finish your crypto state machine gizmo.	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	can and moreover must be.	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	if we manage to avoid the insane state of importing openssl bondogle to do crypto we're so far ahead of the game...	[02:17]
asciilifeform	already there.	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[02:18]
asciilifeform	gpg didn't use openssl for anything	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	nono i was making a simile	[02:19]
asciilifeform	ah	[02:19]
phf	as far as lisp, yeah, not practical for deployment, but i started getting bogged down in trivial serialization questions, before i understand clearly how the whole system is supposed to work. once i get the spec as is up, i want to start working through those comments to modify it into a udp lower level system. in any case lisp is better option for gossip prototype, because the spec is so open ended	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	so gossipd is practically going to be lisp hand-compiled ot c ?	[02:20]
phf	yes	[02:20]
asciilifeform	phf: i actually started where you are now	[02:20]
asciilifeform	phf: but skipped straight to the c on account of realizing that 99+% of the work is precisely in getting this to behave sanely	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	can lisp even be hand compiled to c ?	[02:22]
phf	i'm pretty bad a dijkstra programming, i need to see the system behave to reason clearly about it, and c is not it. besides the translation is the tirvial part	[02:22]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: in a very loose sense	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	phf you're not required to agree to this inasmuch as you're using your own time & hands.	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	write it in lua if that's genuinely what works for you.	[02:23]
asciilifeform	phf: the 'translation is trivial' is the mega-mistake. go and bake, e.g., a sane allocator.	[02:24]
asciilifeform	your unix box doesn't have such a thing. and neither did mine. or anybody else's.	[02:24]
phf	asciilifeform: boehm gc?	[02:25]
*	phf ducks	[02:25]
*	asciilifeform retches	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	if you end in this situation where you have a beautiful prototype and a buggy implementation people are going to hate you.	[02:26]
asciilifeform	^	[02:26]
phf	it's a tried and true strategy, original javascript has been done that way. i recently learned that that's the way dot-net garbage collector was written	[02:26]
asciilifeform	and this is an example to follow ?!!!	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	none of these work	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[02:26]
phf	not the best examples, i agree :>	[02:27]
asciilifeform	realize, i've been working on the abolition even of libc from the mix.	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	actually, world famous memory hogs	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	another mystery revealed.	[02:27]
asciilifeform	as in all of it	[02:27]
phf	i.e. system calls only?	[02:27]
asciilifeform	as in when the thing gets planted on a micro we change 3 lines.	[02:27]
asciilifeform	aha.	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	this is rather ideal.	[02:28]
asciilifeform	when i say 'program is to be read', i do not mean in a metaphorical sense of 'most of it' or 'the important parts'	[02:29]
asciilifeform	but literal.	[02:29]
asciilifeform	'this parachute, i wrapped myself. signed, prv. xxxxx.'	[02:29]
phf	speaking of, so far what c code is written, it's written in cweb	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	in what	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	knuth c ?	[02:30]
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phf	knuth literate thing, yes, the translator produces c files with relevant bits interpolated	[02:31]
trinque	jurov: links in the declaration and qntra piece are afaik pointing to the right place, pending punkman's indication on how to generate the values he was using for URLs	[02:31]
*	mircea_popescu is rather partial to the concept of "god damned it source code should be written in essay form what is this machine serving bs"	[02:31]
trinque	also.	[02:32]
trinque	deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3SVEM8H.txt	[02:32]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MjlnSH )	[02:32]
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mircea_popescu	incidentally, the only case where a "source is the spec" could be excused, is properly written knuth c.	[02:36]
asciilifeform	only if the thing is entirely self-carrying.	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[02:36]
asciilifeform	as in, no #include <...>	[02:36]
asciilifeform	solely #include "..."	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	hey, there's a principle there.	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	obviously if you break the principle you break the principle.	[02:37]
asciilifeform	and builds as readily on tinycc as on gcc.	[02:37]
asciilifeform	etc	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	i don't expect it would build on anything.	[02:37]
phf	i like that the end result can be wholly signed and produces a spiffy dvi for printing	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	it's certainly a "best practice" sorta thing	[02:38]
phf	it doesn't necessarily has to be particularly intrusive, i've looked at some of his "hacks", and they are very lightly annotated, but the partitioning still makes more sense that the direct flow of a c file	[02:39]
mircea_popescu	whjat i mean by "best practices sorta thing" : nobody;'s going to hang you if you don't do it, but should seriously consider doing it.	[02:40]
phf	in any case that's, so far, the best option i found for keeping the evils of c at a slight distance. at least interested parties can read and inspect the code, without skipping tricky parts	[02:40]
asciilifeform	http://www.literateprogramming.com/cweb_download.html << very spiffy	[02:40]
assbot	Literate Programming - CWEB ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hp7SUz )	[02:40]
*	asciilifeform went on a literate prog kick some years ago	[02:40]
asciilifeform	^ linked for photos	[02:41]
phf	also http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/programs.html	[02:42]
assbot	Error \| Stanford Computer Science ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hp83za )	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	!b 2	[02:42]
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mircea_popescu	"error stanford computer science" is just abour righr.	[02:42]
asciilifeform	l0l!!	[02:42]
mod6	haha	[02:42]
phf	i just assume that knuth stays in millenarian maths, periodically comming out to talk about generative Organ music	[02:44]
asciilifeform	moar of a centenarian imho	[02:45]
phf	otherwise no relation to stanford	[02:45]
asciilifeform	i dun think they have a millenarian cliff at s.	[02:45]
asciilifeform	try mgu	[02:45]
phf	i thought at mgu they just self-embalm, как завещал тов ленин	[02:46]
asciilifeform	l0l quite likely	[02:46]
asciilifeform	... are there any published recordings of knuths's organ ?	[02:46]
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*	asciilifeform tries, fails, to recall the name of the british prof who had himself embalmed and wheeled into faculty meetings long after his death	[02:47]
BingoBoingo	* asciilifeform tries, fails, to recall the name of the british prof who had himself embalmed and wheeled into faculty meetings long after his death << Bentham	[02:49]
asciilifeform	https://www.ucl.ac.uk/Bentham-Project/who/autoicon << apparently	[02:49]
assbot	Auto-Icon ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hp95eq )	[02:49]
punkman	trinque: the urls should be in the database, it was base58-encoded sha256 hashes	[02:50]
asciilifeform	'Not surprisingly, this peculiar relic has given rise to numerous legends and anecdotes. One of the most commonly recounted is that the Auto-Icon regularly attends meetings of the College Council, and that it is solemnly wheeled into the Council Room to take its place among the present-day members. Its presence, it is claimed, is always recorded in the minutes with the words Jeremy Bentham - present but not voting. Another ver	[02:50]
asciilifeform	sion of the story asserts that the Auto-Icon does vote, but only on occasions when the votes of the other Council members are equally split. In these cases the Auto-Icon invariably votes for the motion.'	[02:50]
trinque	punkman: cool, thanks	[02:51]
mod6	"	[02:53]
mod6	However, the head proved an irresistible target for students, especially from King's College London, who stole the head in 1975 and demanded a ransom of £100 to be paid to the charity Shelter. UCL finally agreed to pay a ransom of £10 and the head was returned. "	[02:53]
mod6	haha	[02:53]
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pete_dushenski	happy bday, serenissians !	[03:41]
pete_dushenski	http://qntra.net/2015/11/mizzou-and-yale-experience-acute-unrest/ << nice one bb. major lulzfest.	[03:43]
assbot	Mizzou and Yale Experience Acute Unrest \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC0EY9 )	[03:43]
pete_dushenski	https://web.archive.org/web/20151107010454/http://yaleherald.com/op-eds/hurt-at-home/ << ftr. this is the original 'hurt at home' piece as published in, and since withdrawn from, the yale herald	[03:45]
assbot	Hurt at home - The Yale Herald ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC0MXq )	[03:45]
punkman	so question for engineers: I have an aluminum window casing that's corroding in a couple spots around the edges, and corroded part is growing outwards something like puffy/powdery flakes. been trying to find the technical term to no avail.	[03:46]
pete_dushenski	technical term for corrosion ?	[03:47]
pete_dushenski	"Christakis hasn’t checked in on any of us. He hasn’t given us any indication that he is going to or wants to heal the community. If you know I’m in pain and you aren’t doing anything to try to help me, then how can you be sorry? Christakis is the Master of Silliman College, it is his job to take care of us, and he is failing." << so much lose it wins.	[03:48]
punkman	pete_dushenski: whatever it is that's happening. it looks pretty weird	[03:49]
pete_dushenski	sounds like the protective anodised coating on your aluminum frames has lost the battle against mother nature	[03:50]
pete_dushenski	maybe replace them with fibreglass ? or tell landlord to ?	[03:51]
*	pete_dushenski just realised how shocked he'd be to find a fibreglass-framed window anywhere in greece	[03:51]
punkman	how's fibreglass work for that	[03:51]
pete_dushenski	fibreglass doesn't corrode	[03:52]
pete_dushenski	also, because it expands and contracts at essentially the same rate as the glazing, the window seals are stressed markedly less, improving the system's longevity by reducing condensation and air infiltration	[03:53]
pete_dushenski	though this similarity in the coefficient of expansion assumes a triple-glazing, which is relatively common here, whereas milder climates will use double, even single-glazed windows	[03:55]
punkman	yeah I barely need windows here, only double-glaze	[03:56]
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punkman	hmm kinda looks like this one http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IJHRC8dgrWs/TUmIM3qKkLI/AAAAAAAAAAg/P9sfhkx_c5I/s1600/nimatoidis.jpg	[03:57]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HC1tA1 )	[03:57]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319928 << it's the exact same type of insane optimism that saw me blindsided by the last provincial and national election here, both of which went further left.	[04:00]
assbot	Logged on 08-11-2015 16:45:02; mircea_popescu: hilary doesn't stand a chance, in this atmosphere. for that matter, it wouldn't be surprising if the democratic party splits up, in multiple bits even.	[04:00]
pete_dushenski	punkman: that's some pretty bad pitting	[04:00]
punkman	no pitting on mine, just that whitish growth	[04:01]
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punkman	guess I'll call the company that installed them	[04:01]
punkman	pic http://i.imgur.com/rXf3tqw.jpg	[04:11]
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pete_dushenski	punkman: that's some strange alright.	[04:19]
pete_dushenski	if you hadn't said it was an aluminum frame, i wouldn't have believed it	[04:20]
pete_dushenski	http://googleresearch.blogspot.ca/2015/11/computer-respond-to-this-email.html?m=1 << good god what is wrong with the heads of google employees	[04:27]
assbot	Research Blog: Computer, respond to this email. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC3goS )	[04:27]
pete_dushenski	"answering email on your mobile is hard and time consuming, wouldn't your lives be better if ROBOTS REPLIED TO YOUR EMAILS FOR YOU ?"	[04:28]
punkman	"But replying to email on mobile is a real pain, even for short replies." oh so Android sucks for doing anything?	[04:28]
pete_dushenski	"Another bizarre feature of our early prototype was its propensity to respond with “I love you” to seemingly anything. As adorable as this sounds, it wasn’t really what we were hoping for. Some analysis revealed that the system was doing exactly what we’d trained it to do, generate likely responses -- and it turns out that responses like “Thanks", "Sounds good", and “I love you” are super common --	[04:29]
pete_dushenski	so the system would lean on them as a safe bet if it was unsure. Normalizing the likelihood of a candidate reply by some measure of that response's prior probability forced the model to predict responses that were not just highly likely, but also had high affinity to the original message. This made for a less lovey, but far more useful, email assistant.	[04:29]
pete_dushenski	Give it a try	[04:29]
pete_dushenski	We’re actually pretty amazed at how well this works. We’ll be rolling this feature out on Inbox for Android and iOS later this week, and we hope you’ll try it for yourself! Tap on a Smart Reply suggestion to start editing it. If it’s perfect as is, just tap send. Two-tap email on the go -- just like Bálint envisioned."	[04:29]
pete_dushenski	i thought it was one of those 'fun' prototypes for wanking each other off to. but it's actually being implemented.	[04:29]
pete_dushenski	punkman: mobiles for for teh status	[04:29]
pete_dushenski	which is why apple rules the roost	[04:30]
pete_dushenski	and really has no competition	[04:30]
pete_dushenski	apple = patek philippe heirloom quality phn0es	[04:30]
punkman	except they stop working after a couple years	[04:31]
pete_dushenski	what, like giving your child a legacy is free ? pff. don't be cheap. buy more $aapl	[04:31]
pete_dushenski	not like patek philippe doesn't need $5k servicing every 3 years.	[04:32]
pete_dushenski	ok, $2k servicing. but still !	[04:33]
trinque	phf: thanks for the example code for cl-irc; works well. I'm now porting over the deed handling code from my wad of python.	[04:33]
punkman	even the Google engineers don't want to use Android, while insisting mobile/touchscreen is teh "future".	[04:33]
trinque	and incidentally adlai this one when finished will be released as a deed itself.	[04:33]
pete_dushenski	punkman: if it mobile/touch wasn't teh future, they'd have to start looking for jobs that didn't require them to live in truck trailers in the parking lot	[04:35]
pete_dushenski	...of their office	[04:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100277 @ 0.00056007 = 56.1621 BTC [+] {4}	[04:41]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1320121 << /me has a usb 2.0 version on order. eager to add third monitor to set-up but not surprised to learn that they all use the same chip.	[04:47]
assbot	Logged on 08-11-2015 18:56:46; asciilifeform: example. some months ago, i tried one of those 'usb 3.0 to flatpanel' gizmos.	[04:47]
pete_dushenski	not one such 'graphics adapter' that i could find was produced by a manufacturer that i'd ever heard of. all seemed to be chinese 'brands', the type that horribly misspell labels	[04:48]
pete_dushenski	http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n21/patrick-cockburn/too-weak-too-strong << plausible sounding report on syria/isis these days	[04:55]
assbot	Patrick Cockburn · Too Weak, Too Strong: Russia in Syria · LRB 5 November 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/20FSrxF )	[04:55]
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punkman	http://www.nrk.no/troms/mystisk-rodt-slim-dekker-millioner-av-kubikkmeter-i-fjorden-1.12643287	[04:58]
assbot	Mystisk rødt slim dekker millioner av kubikkmeter i fjorden - NRK Troms - Lokale nyheter, TV og radio ... ( http://bit.ly/1NYUhTn )	[04:58]
punkman	"15-30 meter thick layer of jellyfish on the seabed"	[04:59]
punkman	"they did a trawl pull the outer part of Lyngen in an area they normally receive both fish and shrimp. Trawler came up with large amounts of jellyfish and virtually no fish or shrimp."	[04:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44650 @ 0.00056233 = 25.108 BTC [+]	[05:00]
pete_dushenski	https://archive.is/JYcZ6 << it's not debtor's prison, it's 'coworking space' !!	[05:09]
assbot	Coliving: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1NYUWUV )	[05:09]
punkman	why the hell did they replace "Dorms for Grownups" with "Coliving" in title	[05:10]
pete_dushenski	it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel !	[05:10]
pete_dushenski	because 'co-' is the new 'sustainable'	[05:11]
pete_dushenski	'co-create', 'co-imagined', etc	[05:11]
pete_dushenski	lot of senseless, meaningless blah blah to paper over failings, shortcomings, and inadequacies of an entire generation.	[05:12]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320410 << wunderbar. les jeux sont faits. and the board on which to play is as broad and wide as the prairies themselves.	[05:14]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 04:15:24; BingoBoingo: Oh, now the Atlantic supports FPH https://archive.is/MX5we	[05:14]
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adlai	trinque: glad to hear. in other news, looks like the tx for your ,,bc,tmsr~ signature got malleated	[08:38]
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shinohai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320643 <<< I was unaware signatures could possess anything, therefore I believe the signature was or became malleated.	[08:47]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 11:36:12; adlai: trinque: glad to hear. in other news, looks like the tx for your ,,bc,tmsr~ signature got malleated	[08:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00056177 = 13.7634 BTC [-] {3}	[08:51]
*	adlai dials pedantry to 11: the bitcoin signature from 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES on 8f578344f5754cc1d7228506dfbd8ffe1c8fcbc017a5f8004026e3939493eea5:1 covering the transaction subsequently known as 52330ca416ea42e1d5a2d9be5874a8ab8fdc87ca100b068a164e6d4c1867d633 got malleated. this transaction happens to notarize another signature, of the gpg variety...	[08:51]
shinohai	hue	[08:53]
adlai	trinque: fwiw deedbot- also seems to be using uncompressed addresses, perhaps a bug of the feature variety	[08:57]
adlai	reasons left as an exercise to the alert sweeper	[08:59]
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funkenstein_	http://www.theonion.com/article/economists-estimate-human-civilization-still-years-51792 <-- t. hermann zwiebel reads the logs	[09:36]
assbot	Economists Estimate Human Civilization Still Years Away From Turning Profit - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuyNhY )	[09:36]
shinohai	^ LOL	[09:38]
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fluffypony	lol	[10:12]
fluffypony	humanity is the world's worst startup, then :-P	[10:12]
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BingoBoingo	ok, $2k servicing. but still ! << What you can't do this at home?	[10:43]
BingoBoingo	Or jsut take it to the local jewler for service. Warranties are overrated.	[10:45]
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jurov	dunno, maybe they service it with tunnelling microscope in hard vacuum	[11:12]
BingoBoingo	Could be it	[11:12]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320575 << word.	[11:56]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 06:51:39; pete_dushenski: also, because it expands and contracts at essentially the same rate as the glazing, the window seals are stressed markedly less, improving the system's longevity by reducing condensation and air infiltration	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320581 << how can it be optimism, yo ? for one thing i don't live there. for the other thing, the breakdown of their system is bad news for them. yes, it sucked, but like ankylosis, at lrast it held things together.	[11:58]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 06:58:14; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319928 << it's the exact same type of insane optimism that saw me blindsided by the last provincial and national election here, both of which went further left.	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	now the arms are gonna start falling off.	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320593 << gee, ik dunno... wouldn't it be nice if you STOPPED WITH THE BULLSHIT MOBILE ? on the grounds that it doesn't fucking work ?	[12:00]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 07:26:31; pete_dushenski: "answering email on your mobile is hard and time consuming, wouldn't your lives be better if ROBOTS REPLIED TO YOUR EMAILS FOR YOU ?"	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	this fucking us insanity. step 1 : replace computer with phone, which does not work as computer ; step 2 : stop doing the things you used to do on compuer you can't now do on phone.	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	they do it everywhere, step 1 : replace food with synthetic condensate, which doesn't work as food ; 2 : go to doctor to cure your problems arising from the fact that you don't eat food, you eat tyres and wd40.	[12:01]
mircea_popescu	completely fucking nuts.	[12:01]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320598 << HOW WELL it works ? how the fuck could it work well. it's just http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/#selection-3043.48-3043.123 to the power of nine thousand.	[12:03]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 07:27:12; pete_dushenski: We’re actually pretty amazed at how well this works. We’ll be rolling this feature out on Inbox for Android and iOS later this week, and we hope you’ll try it for yourself! Tap on a Smart Reply suggestion to start editing it. If it’s perfect as is, just tap send. Two-tap email on the go -- just like Bálint envisioned."	[12:03]
assbot	Spamming reddit, an "experiment". on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NECmTU )	[12:03]
asciilifeform	re: 'mobile' answering robot: why not cut to the chase and do a full 'dead souls' with eliza in place of the luser.	[12:07]
asciilifeform	then let the customized elizas noise at each other, ad infinitum	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	"They have again and again shown that they are committed to an ideal of free speech, not to the Silliman community."	[12:08]
shinohai	can confirm, a bot on tardstalk yields gems	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	dude what is this inept shit lmao.	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	college is only alma mater IRONICALLY ffs.	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform seems to be the plan for "continued economic growth"	[12:08]
asciilifeform	aha, as in that orlol	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	im kinda miffed we don't get moar of the "precious indications at the xth congress" solemnity.	[12:09]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2014#575704	[12:09]
assbot	Logged on 23-03-2014 01:48:22; asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/07/dead-souls.html	[12:09]
asciilifeform	^ it	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	soviets ashamed of themselves ? sort-of like going to the strip club to watch a bunch of nude ladies bent like teens and protecting their pubenda.	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	"It’s unacceptable when the Master of your college is dismissive of your experiences."	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	bvwahaha	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	o god i gotta stop.	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck is Jencey Paz	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320606 << no you're supposed to do it by yourself like in those ads! teach 9yo all about how their hands aren't steady and the intricate mechanisms that make the world tick HATE THEM	[12:11]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 07:30:51; pete_dushenski: not like patek philippe doesn't need $5k servicing every 3 years.	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	valuable life lesson.	[12:11]
shinohai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320690 <<< this guy's shibboleth	[12:11]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 15:07:30; assbot: Logged on 23-03-2014 01:48:22; asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/07/dead-souls.html	[12:11]
asciilifeform	i thought 'teach 9yo all about how their hands aren't steady' is what you do at the rifle range	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320609 << in the expression of tlp, "more of the same and less of everything"	[12:12]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 07:31:22; punkman: even the Google engineers don't want to use Android, while insisting mobile/touchscreen is teh "future".	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	that's the future.	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform nah, that's where you teach them they're chickenshits. remember the vacuum ?	[12:12]
asciilifeform	hm?	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	this buran item, made out of solid steel, huge noise. i said it scared the shit out of me and iirc you said the same	[12:13]
asciilifeform	oh, it!	[12:13]
asciilifeform	http://64.img.avito.st/640x480/153118764.jpg << him	[12:13]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1NEDQ0j )	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	fucking jet engine	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	it even looked like a jet engine.	[12:13]
asciilifeform	sure did	[12:13]
asciilifeform	gotta love the finish on that thing	[12:13]
asciilifeform	how is that even made.	[12:13]
*	mircea_popescu actually said "well obviously" in class when learning about teh space race from soviet perspective. "FIRST SATELLITE!111"	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform exactly that.	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	from what i understand, it's knifed and enameled.	[12:14]
asciilifeform	to me that thing (and perhaps the bk0010 micro) is emblematic of all that was ~good~ and right about su	[12:15]
*	mircea_popescu is fucking tempted to try and find one here. i bet you it exists.	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	do an unboxing or what's it called.	[12:15]
asciilifeform	aha i'd have one if it didn't 220v	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	o but alfie. argentina does 220 :D	[12:15]
asciilifeform	aha.	[12:15]
asciilifeform	http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1970-VACUUM-CLEANER-BURAN-RUSSIAN-USSR-220V-390W-WORK-BOX-/271892056926 << l0l, exists	[12:16]
assbot	VINTAGE 1970 VACUUM CLEANER * BURAN * RUSSIAN USSR * 220V * 390W * WORK * BOX * ... ( http://bit.ly/1NEEdYB )	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	i tell you... the fact that that textile hose NEVER DISATTACHED from the metal end.	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	i never thought this possible, it struck me as a bad idea. it dies there.	[12:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00056147 = 22.6834 BTC [+] {4}	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	i think they have steel mesh reinforcement inside that's welded to the inner tube	[12:16]
asciilifeform	sure did.	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	the textile is just decor, not a structural element.	[12:17]
mircea_popescu	dude i'd so pay 400 bux for this.	[12:17]
asciilifeform	the hose is armoured, like the fuel line for icbm	[12:17]
asciilifeform	hoses were srs business (tm) in su	[12:17]
mircea_popescu	llol	[12:18]
asciilifeform	i'd never actually seen the original box these came in until now	[12:18]
asciilifeform	(ebay link)	[12:18]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.QNTR << based on last statement this contract will be changed correct?	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	yeah my grandparents had the box. it was fascinating because tube in tube!	[12:18]
asciilifeform	stamped 'runs on alternating ~and~ direct current'	[12:18]
*	asciilifeform did not know!	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[12:18]
BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: Seems like it would make more sense to stick the deed below the original contract on the page.	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller probably not.	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	the truth is i don't have a good solution to evolving contracts, and this is all part of exploring that space.	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	there's more to lyf than just coding. not that legal documents aren't coding anyway.	[12:19]
BingoBoingo	It's the incorporation papers, original kinda has to stick around	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[12:19]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i'll buy it for you, pay me back later, if you can supply a ship point	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform well, bring it along next you visit i guess ?	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	i'd buy it myself but can't be arsed to handle the importation.	[12:20]
asciilifeform	even import of a soviet vacuum is mega-ordeal in ar ?	[12:20]
asciilifeform	from motherfucking bulgaria ?	[12:20]
mircea_popescu	dollars to donuts the item also exists in argentina, but been way too lazy to go through the NUMEROUS antiguedades markets.	[12:20]
asciilifeform	perhaps kakobrekla ought to try pickign it up	[12:20]
asciilifeform	hard to believe it was only 390W !	[12:21]
mircea_popescu	for the noise it made... i'd have expected 1-2 mw.	[12:21]
asciilifeform	aha!	[12:21]
*	asciilifeform wallowz in nostalgia	[12:21]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320622 << this is how the sea works.	[12:23]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 07:58:09; punkman: "they did a trawl pull the outer part of Lyngen in an area they normally receive both fish and shrimp. Trawler came up with large amounts of jellyfish and virtually no fish or shrimp."	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	i get it, fucktarded narcissist generation expects the sea to how did that go, "It’s unacceptable when the Master of your college is dismissive of your experiences."	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless, the fucking point of the sea is that you get what you get not what you expect to get.	[12:24]
asciilifeform	and when doesn't get, orders the sea whipped ?	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	no, see, more perfidious than that (which perfidy clearly proves he is full aware of the whole stack) : he PRETENDS TO FIX IT! orders carbon credits whipped.	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	same process, mentally, loads and loads and LOADS of "plausible deniability" sugar on top.	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320627 <<< how unfortunate for them that in an entire sea of idiots either lapping up the entire protective nonsense ("don't be mean" / "privilege is bad" / "sociopaths!111 don't careabout THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES111") or else too cognitively impaired to get much further than a vague feeling of existential nausea	[12:26]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 08:08:51; pete_dushenski: it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel !	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	there exists a tiny island that's perfectly equipped to laugh them into the dirt.	[12:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25050 @ 0.00056437 = 14.1375 BTC [+]	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	if i were them i'd kill us.	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320627 <<< transactions do not notarize documents. the final address at which the funds end up does. this is by design, and for this reason (in its general form : miners can fuck txn up, but not actually spend funds / control addresses)	[12:29]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 08:08:51; pete_dushenski: it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel !	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	uh i meant http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320647	[12:29]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 11:49:35; *: adlai dials pedantry to 11: the bitcoin signature from 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES on 8f578344f5754cc1d7228506dfbd8ffe1c8fcbc017a5f8004026e3939493eea5:1 covering the transaction subsequently known as 52330ca416ea42e1d5a2d9be5874a8ab8fdc87ca100b068a164e6d4c1867d633 got malleated. this transaction happens to notarize another signature, of the gpg variety...	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	and now, off to eat cold HOMEMADE pizza in bed. turns out i live just like a coder, the only difference being the little differences. like slave labour.	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	or no. not like slave labour. like everything else but that.	[12:34]
asciilifeform	'coder' eats pizza that died at least three times.	[12:35]
asciilifeform	so not quite same.	[12:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00056712 = 21.7207 BTC [+] {2}	[12:38]
thestringpuller	happy birthday La Serenissima	[12:44]
thestringpuller	(belated)	[12:44]
shinohai	real 'coderz' eat pizza hot pockets.	[12:45]
thestringpuller	shinohai: i thought that was gamers...	[12:46]
shinohai	http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/09/mother-murdered-chicago-boy-defends-buying-new-car/?intcmp=trending	[12:47]
assbot	Mother of murdered Chicago boy, 9, fuels outrage after buying new car \| Fox News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NZvezC )	[12:47]
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BingoBoingo	https://i.imgur.com/MbxRK17.png	[12:54]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1WIGMyF )	[12:54]
BingoBoingo	https://veuwer.com/i/3cfy.jpg	[12:55]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1WIGSGL )	[12:55]
kakobrekla	sorry to disappoint, i have a better vacuum cleaner that that. was about same price.	[12:56]
kakobrekla	than that*	[12:56]
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BingoBoingo	http://wnyt.com/article/stories/s3957018.shtml << The face of addiction	[13:00]
assbot	WNYT.com - Walmart store employee accused of stealing food ... ( http://bit.ly/1WIHgoz )	[13:00]
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BingoBoingo	https://archive.is/6DbLR	[13:14]
assbot	Couple face £2,500 fine for using an anti-child gadget on 'screaming' kids \| Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1NZyStn )	[13:14]
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BingoBoingo	So the Toomin guy finally got a block just a bit over 1MB on Testnet, and now he's reorging testnet back to core rules demonstrating Altcoin security is shit and that they really don't want people testing blocks anywere near 8MB until the raeping	[13:25]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 3.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b19	[13:30]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Gold to drop under $1000 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1220/gold-to-drop-under-1000-before-jan-2016/#b10	[13:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14956 @ 0.00056941 = 8.5161 BTC [+] {3}	[13:30]
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mircea_popescu	Mother of murdered Chicago boy, 9, fuels outrage after buying new car << i thought muricans loved cars.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	love envy moar ?	[13:43]
BingoBoingo	of course	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo doh.	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	"people". who the fuck cares what the dead people say.	[13:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68950 @ 0.00056996 = 39.2987 BTC [+] {4}	[13:46]
BingoBoingo	ghosts?	[13:49]
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deedbot-	[Qntra] Wolfe Resigns At Mizzou Surrending To Pressure - http://qntra.net/2015/11/wolfe-resigns-at-mizzou-surrending-to-pressure/	[14:01]
BingoBoingo	title fxd	[14:01]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rumblr-tinder-fighting-app-launch-beta-nov-9-article-1.2427623	[14:13]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1NEXV6N )	[14:13]
punkman	http://static2.uk.businessinsider.com/image/564075b19dd7cc24008c829c-868-883/screen%20shot%202015-11-09%20at%2010.29.31%20am.png	[14:17]
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punkman	BingoBoingo: lol, not bad	[14:18]
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BingoBoingo	http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/11/cell-phone-may-be-involved-in-cryotherapy-death.html	[14:42]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1XZRApg )	[14:42]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[14:59]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320822 << the $64k question, of course, is: did the coroner whack the ln2'd stiff with a little hammer, like a sausage in physics school ?	[14:59]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 17:40:46; BingoBoingo: http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/11/cell-phone-may-be-involved-in-cryotherapy-death.html	[14:59]
phf	http://static2.uk.businessinsider.com/image/564075b19dd7cc24008c829c-868-883/screen%20shot%202015-11-09%20at%2010.29.31%20am.png << http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/images/HodgePodge.gif	[15:01]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1XZOBNP )	[15:01]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1NF56M9 )	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	o look at that, "Central bank and government combined balance sheet"	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	ie, state ownership of [what's left of the] economy ?	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	aww.	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	in fairness all soviets to date pretended that they are special, and all the other failures of socialism were due to you know, those not being real socialism. this is the first pass around the stupid block when the supreme soviet actualy claims it's not doing socialism at all.	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	what a great plan, how could it fail!	[15:04]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: hey it's already a command economy	[15:09]
ascii_field	(at least on this side of the atlantic)	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	yeah, just moving into the blessed state where the commands no longer do anything.	[15:10]
*	ascii_field still astounded by the sheer genius of the ln2 suicide machine	[15:12]
ascii_field	it just needs an ultrasonic thing to powder the icicle	[15:12]
*	ben_vulpes waves from the small and unimportant parts	[15:13]
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mircea_popescu	lol are you in the tonsils ?	[15:13]
ascii_field	and i distinctly recall ln2 powdering being offered as a sort of alt-cremation service somewhere	[15:14]
ben_vulpes	http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/132846994134/having-10-female-visitors-on-devopsreactions	[15:16]
assbot	Having 10% female visitors on devopsreactions - DevOps Reactions ... ( http://bit.ly/1NF85Ec )	[15:16]
*	ben_vulpes will now refer to this corner of the us as "the tonsils"	[15:16]
ascii_field	wut	[15:16]
ben_vulpes	maybe the appendix	[15:16]
ascii_field	also how in satan's name does 'google analytic' or anything like it have any notion of sex or other biographical minutiae ?	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	jesus what is this retarded shit. the gender gap ? on tumblr ?	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	as reported by google ?	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	where is that ultrasonic freezer ray or what was it.	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field "useless information is worse than no information, because idiots will now think they know something"	[15:18]
ascii_field	i get the chumpatronic aspect, but find it hard to believe that anyone could be fooled	[15:18]
ascii_field	it has to be one of those item built specifically for the eager self-deluded	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	nobody needs to actulaly be fooled. just as long as they keep churning out this sort of crud and it's being reacted to, it's really no different from the idiot who "ai"replies to emails and imagines that this imbalance of power with his readership is useful to him	[15:19]
punkman	question is why isn't tumblr raging against binary gender web analytics	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	same exact fucking process, in the words of carlin, "a group of people trying to fuck each other a little deeper, a little faster, every time".	[15:19]
ascii_field	and now when ben_vulpes asks me about 'why is www dev work satanic' i can also link to this thread.	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field incidentally, you know the joke with the two jews and the piece of dog turd ?	[15:20]
ascii_field	the one that is eaten for free ?	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[15:20]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2013#422029	[15:20]
assbot	Logged on 15-12-2013 01:16:17; asciilifeform: two drunks each pay the other $100 to eat spoon of shit.	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	that's exactly "us economy\|" : i will eat your moderately stinky shit and call it hamburger if you eat this very runny shit and call it a slurpee.	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	this is "economic growth" to these muppets.	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	and the problem is insoluble, because shit drives away the food.	[15:21]
ascii_field	when it's this XOR wagner'n'cyanide time, most folks pick the former	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	and even when it isn't.	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	kid getting to choose college will predictably not go to the one that actually teaches something.	[15:22]
ascii_field	l0l where's that	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	used to be. their slow death was chronicled in that brit's piece linked in the log on occasion.	[15:23]
ascii_field	ah, them!	[15:23]
*	ascii_field went to the tail end of something quite like it	[15:23]
ascii_field	iirc phf also did	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	by now, obviously kid is more likely to "go to college" than summon up his entire extended family and make each person eat some of his shit at a great family reunion, "because you people suck"	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	"no mom, i'm not holding a wedding. i'm holding a "you people suck" party, attendance is mandatory, and you will all have to delight in my excrement while telling me how just like pork and beans it tastes"	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	because sure as hell i'm not doing it to your dumbass excrement.	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	i don't suppose a generation war - in the proper, 20th century sense, with mass rapes, mass graves and concentration camps - was ever this morally necessary. forget justified, it's not that it's justified, it is that it's a sine qua non mandatory requirement, just like hanging the nazis.	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	now consider that nero lived in very similar times, and all of a suden you might see the lad as a very heroic figure.	[15:28]
*	mircea_popescu is persuaded that if he lived at that time, he would have also set rome on fire and fiddled while it burned, also made horses senators and in general, the whole nine yards. it's a historical necessity.	[15:28]
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jurov	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320845 << guess the result would be suitable as cow feed	[15:30]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 18:12:09; ascii_field: and i distinctly recall ln2 powdering being offered as a sort of alt-cremation service somewhere	[15:30]
ben_vulpes	such ire	[15:34]
*	ben_vulpes quite pleased with the morning gifselection	[15:34]
ben_vulpes	ascii_field: contrary to popular opinion i don't need much educating on the satanicity of wwwwork	[15:34]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:36]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: this is when i confess that i always saw n as a hero	[15:36]
ascii_field	since i was a boy.	[15:37]
ascii_field	and for precisely this reason.	[15:37]
ascii_field	~somebody~'s gotta garbagecollect dead things.	[15:37]
ascii_field	ideas, people, ..., civilizations.	[15:37]
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mircea_popescu	"Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me."	[15:40]
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mircea_popescu	my o my... halacious storm here	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	hail and everything	[16:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00055283 = 34.8283 BTC [-] {2}	[16:49]
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punkman	http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_book_of_mormon_missionary_positions_is_the_one_gay_sex_manual	[17:25]
assbot	‘The Book of Mormon Missionary Positions’ is the one gay sex manual that is TOTALLY SAFE FOR WORK	[17:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00055104 = 18.4047 BTC [-] {2}	[18:00]
fluffypony	https://i.imgur.com/iLzj23m.jpg	[18:09]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1NZXout )	[18:09]
shinohai	lo	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	aha	[18:09]
fluffypony	also this: http://www.parhlo.com/colombian-farmer-finds-pablo-escobars-600000000-buried-on-his-farm/	[18:10]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:10]
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ascii_field	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/nsa-ordered-stop-collecting-querying-plaintiffs-phone-records << l0lz	[18:10]
ascii_field	^ usg 'plays chess with self'	[18:11]
ascii_field	in other nyooz, 'Historically, NSA has released more than 91 percent of vulnerabilities discovered in products that have gone through our internal review process and that are made or used in the United States. The remaining 9 percent were either fixed by vendors before we notified them or not disclosed for national security reasons.' (from nsa.gov)	[18:12]
ascii_field	as per http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#742046	[18:13]
assbot	Logged on 03-07-2014 17:34:41; asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot	[18:13]
ascii_field	'It's not clear what will happen to the money as of now, but many speculate that Jose Mariena Cartolos will not be allowed to keep the money and it will be taken by the Colombian Government and probably spent on improving the life of poor farmers all over the country.' << l0l, oughta have found a bitcoin pit instead ?	[18:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46050 @ 0.00055104 = 25.3754 BTC [-]	[18:17]
ascii_field	but yes, iirc we had a thread where i noted that if i were to find a 747 packed with benjies in my back yard, it would make no measurable difference in my standard of living and would in fact be at least annoying	[18:20]
ascii_field	see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-08-2015#1249081	[18:21]
assbot	Logged on 22-08-2015 22:07:45; mircea_popescu: for the record, it's not even clear moving from bearer to certified insturment is anti-liberty. for insmtance - hansa used the certifierd instrument greatly, because as a merchant, giving your son a plain "pay the bearer so much silver upon presentation of this note in such town" was merely an invitation to any highwayman on route to "please fuck this young man in the ass and here's t	[18:21]
thestringpuller	ascii_field: cause you don't know how to launder money?	[18:25]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: 'don't know' doesn't begin to describe it.	[18:26]
thestringpuller	first step is to buy a cash business under the table like a restaurant or movie theatre or car wash	[18:26]
thestringpuller	then you pad the revenue	[18:26]
ascii_field	you don't get it, do you	[18:26]
thestringpuller	I've been in the money laundering business from the USG side.	[18:26]
thestringpuller	i guess "anti money laundering business"	[18:27]
ascii_field	i couldn't so much as to buy a bottle of rotgut 'under the table'	[18:27]
thestringpuller	What happens if you do?	[18:27]
ascii_field	require 10,001 things that i don't have.	[18:27]
ascii_field	mainly abilities/proclivities/experiences/intuitions.	[18:27]
ascii_field	incl. a basic meatspace social life	[18:27]
ascii_field	'i can't fly without airplane' -- 'what happens if you do?'	[18:28]
thestringpuller	hmmm good point. just interesting someone as intelligent as you hasn't thought about ways to launder money.	[18:29]
ascii_field	you still don't get it	[18:29]
ascii_field	it isn't about ~thinking~	[18:29]
ascii_field	it is about being a certain thing	[18:29]
thestringpuller	what is this "certain thing"	[18:29]
thestringpuller	you don't want to cross the line of being a 'criminal'?	[18:29]
ascii_field	again it isn't about 'don't want'	[18:30]
ascii_field	it is about lacking the most elementary ability.	[18:30]
thestringpuller	it's about you don't have access to XYZ? (aka people/tools/skills/etc. to support such a scheme"	[18:30]
ascii_field	you know how some folks cannot ride a bicycle, no matter what ?	[18:30]
thestringpuller	)	[18:30]
thestringpuller	yes this I understand	[18:30]
thestringpuller	or tone deaf person trying to play piano	[18:30]
ascii_field	aha.	[18:30]
thestringpuller	well if 747 crashses near you full of benjies I'll gladly take it off your hands	[18:31]
lobbes	still, with an airplane full of benjies, you would at least be able to buy, say, food without raising red flags	[18:31]
ascii_field	hence why i said 'no measurable difference'	[18:32]
ascii_field	cost of food is rounding error where i am.	[18:32]
thestringpuller	What about say a nice night with the pet at the fanciest restaurant in town?	[18:32]
ascii_field	even.	[18:32]
*	ascii_field prefers usually to eat at home	[18:33]
thestringpuller	^- #luvit	[18:33]
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lobbes	!up ascii_field	[18:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58550 @ 0.00055028 = 32.2189 BTC [-] {4}	[18:42]
jurov	it's cute how you all want to convert alf into a criminal :D	[18:43]
ascii_field	hey i'm already a criminal in the sense contemplated in mircea_popescu's article re: same	[18:43]
ascii_field	just, with none of the up-sides	[18:43]
thestringpuller	Hey I'm down to start a crime syndicate with ascii_field ; he'd be a great brain behind the operation	[18:45]
ascii_field	l0l	[18:45]
thestringpuller	and then MP as the ruthless leader that no one sees	[18:45]
thestringpuller	Pablo Escobar will seem tame compared to what we could do!	[18:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00055117 = 5.0156 BTC [+]	[18:51]
ascii_field	http://u.zeptobars.ru/yuot/581 << unrelated, spiffy	[18:53]
assbot	Index of /yuot/581/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1O00Mp6 )	[18:53]
ascii_field	^ ic re pr0n	[18:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00055005 = 21.727 BTC [-] {2}	[18:55]
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shinohai	http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/	[19:10]
assbot	Ethereum (ETH) price, charts, and info \| Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pexkvq )	[19:10]
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shinohai	!up ascii_field	[19:17]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field which one ? criminal from at least two angles according to the very generous trilema inquisition.	[19:24]
ascii_field	the one where anybody in usa, other than possibly a coma patient, is 'criminal'	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	right	[19:25]
lobbes	trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american << twas this one, no?	[19:29]
ascii_field	it	[19:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53415 @ 0.00054888 = 29.3184 BTC [-] {5}	[19:29]
shinohai	has anyone ever made any soviet-era art of mircea_popescu?	[19:32]
shinohai	propoganda posters	[19:33]
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mircea_popescu	not unless you count http://trilema.com/2011/fototeca-de-haur/	[19:34]
assbot	Fototeca de Haur on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvLg56 )	[19:34]
shinohai	i have never seen these jewfro pics	[19:35]
thestringpuller	YES	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	hehehe	[19:36]
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mircea_popescu	!up TravisPatron	[19:38]
-assbot-	You voiced TravisPatron for 30 minutes.	[19:38]
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ascii_field	http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto-nominated-nobel-prize-economics-bhagwan-chodry-2015-11 << apparently the joke was srs	[19:40]
assbot	Bitcoin inventor Satoshi Nakamoto nominated for Nobel Prize in Economics - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvM61U )	[19:40]
TravisPatron	https://diginomics.com/bitcoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto-nominated-nobel-prize/ What are the chances Satoshi wins?	[19:42]
assbot	Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - Diginomics ... ( http://bit.ly/1L7aiCe )	[19:42]
ascii_field	meanwhile buterin's waterfall reloaded by usg with another 44,000 btc, or so tells völkischer beobachter	[19:44]
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lobbes	!up ascii_field	[19:47]
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shinohai	was wondering where that little pump came from	[19:51]
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jurov	you don't take the china theory?	[19:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00055199 = 16.7253 BTC [+] {2}	[19:58]
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BingoBoingo	http://qntra.net/2015/11/wolfe-resigns-at-mizzou-surrending-to-pressure/#comment-74534	[20:05]
assbot	Wolfe Resigns At Mizzou Surrendering To Pressure \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvPB8m )	[20:05]
ascii_field	http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/alexio_marziano/26796211/1505953/1505953_original.png << just like in ro, schoolgirls in su had these. never saw photo before tho	[20:08]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1L7doGn )	[20:08]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu ^	[20:08]
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*	pete_dushenski is enjoying leftover, homemade mamaliga cu brinza from last night. still delicious the next day !	[20:23]
pete_dushenski	the dill's what makes this dish, though whether this is a traditional ingredient, i couldn't say	[20:24]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320669 << schadenfreudally optimistic ;)	[20:25]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 14:57:05; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320581 << how can it be optimism, yo ? for one thing i don't live there. for the other thing, the breakdown of their system is bad news for them. yes, it sucked, but like ankylosis, at lrast it held things together.	[20:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40922 @ 0.00054816 = 22.4318 BTC [-] {2}	[20:25]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320672 << this 'mobile' thing has reached the tipping point. i now have family friends in their 60s telling me not to do my banking on my 'mobile' at the local cafe lest i be cyberhacked to pieces	[20:26]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 14:58:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320593 << gee, ik dunno... wouldn't it be nice if you STOPPED WITH THE BULLSHIT MOBILE ? on the grounds that it doesn't fucking work ?	[20:26]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00054816 = 9.5106 BTC [-] {2}	[20:39]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320660 << why would you ? you wouldn't for the same reason that you wouldn't apply your own lawn pesticides : you have other people for that	[20:40]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 13:41:59; BingoBoingo: ok, $2k servicing. but still ! << What you can't do this at home?	[20:40]
BingoBoingo	FU I apply my own lawn herbicides	[20:40]
BingoBoingo	Also, why apply lawn pesticides? I like bees.	[20:40]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo: duh. you're not in the 1%	[20:41]
BingoBoingo	Lawncare's relaxing	[20:41]
pete_dushenski	http://www.lullabymilk.com/ << only monday, yes, but this is in the running for lulziest product of the week award	[20:42]
assbot	lullaby milk, sleep, cows milked before daylight, melatonin ... ( http://bit.ly/1WNrL9s )	[20:42]
pete_dushenski	"Lullaby Milk only contains milk taken from the cows before daybreak. Melatonin is produced in the cows as they sleep, and so the milk produced before daybreak has naturally higher levels of melatonin."	[20:42]
pete_dushenski	this is perhaps even funnier for anyone who's ever seen a baby get 'milk drunk' before passing out	[20:43]
pete_dushenski	from mother's milk	[20:43]
BingoBoingo	lol	[20:44]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320801 << i accidentally stumbled into #bitcoinxt for the first time this morning, only to witness exactly this, to which gavin chimed in with a 'great work toomin!' to much personal amusement	[20:46]
assbot	Logged on 09-11-2015 16:23:54; BingoBoingo: So the Toomin guy finally got a block just a bit over 1MB on Testnet, and now he's reorging testnet back to core rules demonstrating Altcoin security is shit and that they really don't want people testing blocks anywere near 8MB until the raeping	[20:46]
pete_dushenski	almost tempting to go back there	[20:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18910 @ 0.00055682 = 10.5295 BTC [+] {2}	[20:50]
BingoBoingo	Eh, dun you have an army of social media mercenaries to build?	[20:52]
BingoBoingo	Also a bebe to raise?	[20:53]
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pete_dushenski	i do, i do indeed :)	[20:56]
BingoBoingo	Did you start putting the bebe to work yet?	[21:08]
pete_dushenski	i'm waiting until he figures out whose little baby fists keep punching him in the face.	[21:09]
pete_dushenski	until he can work his way through this process of elimination, ima let kids be kids :)	[21:09]
BingoBoingo	I see	[21:11]
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ag3nt_zer0	pete_dushenski: just wanted to say thanks for the great reads over at Contravex... also, thanks for that minor comment regarding my skills with the students that one day... it means something	[21:19]
pete_dushenski	ag3nt_zer0: don't mention it	[21:19]
pete_dushenski	general q : are there any documents or text floating about that were verifiably pgp-signed by satoshi ? inquiring minds...	[21:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00054816 = 13.8136 BTC [-] {2}	[21:23]
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pete_dushenski	https://grouponvouchersettlement.com/ << anyone here every tried one of these class action dealios ?	[21:35]
pete_dushenski	pretty sure i'm eligible for this groupon one. i dun see why i shouldn't give it a go.	[21:35]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00055682 = 5.6796 BTC [+] {2}	[21:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00054816 = 12.361 BTC [-]	[21:40]
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mircea_popescu	haha cute.	[21:44]
ben_vulpes	pete_dushenski: once or twice a year i get a check for $10 or so from them.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto-nominated-nobel-prize-economics-bhagwan-chodry <<< lmao usg trying to resurect the gavin clown ?	[21:45]
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mircea_popescu	hey, chances are pretty good, if obama got one, the road is open for any monkey irrespective of merit or competence.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	the nobelwood prizes!	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field> meanwhile buterin's waterfall reloaded by usg with another 44,000 btc << can't afford to lose bitbet bet :D	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	the dill's what makes this dish though whether this is a traditional ingredient, i couldn't say << certainly not.	[21:47]
pete_dushenski	didn't think so... but oh my was it fine !	[21:47]
pete_dushenski	anyways, the satoshi nobel thing is a few days old : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318943	[21:48]
assbot	Logged on 06-11-2015 22:32:00; adlai: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bhagwan-chowdry/i-shall-happily-accept-th_b_8462028.html "Satoshi Nakamoto already is in possession of several hundred million U.S. dollars worth of bitcoins so the additional prize money may not mean much to him. Only if he wants, the committee could also transfer the prize money to my bitcoin address, 165sAHBpLHujHbHx2zSjC898oXEz25Awtj. Mr Nakamoto and I will se	[21:48]
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mircea_popescu	i really vote for gavin to do the impersonation. he's so talented for it! also has costume!	[21:49]
pete_dushenski	http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1625175.ece << usually allergic to 'new' books, but this looked too interesting to pass up.	[21:49]
assbot	Pavlov’s parables \| TLS ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJNrsw )	[21:49]
pete_dushenski	ftr, not my review, my copy is en route	[21:50]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: you really vote ;)	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	well anyway.	[21:50]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: hey neat	[21:51]
BingoBoingo	Headline win http://investmentwatchblog.com/illinois-school-discriminated-against-male-student-by-refusing-to-let-him-shower-with-naked-girls-obamas-education-dept-rules/	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	win.	[21:51]
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mircea_popescu	in equally riveting news, real or fake ? http://41.media.tumblr.com/9110b350acf1bce4fdf46cf7b99aed58/tumblr_ms381lKa3V1rso06oo1_1280.jpg	[21:55]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HDLAJx )	[21:55]
*	pete_dushenski sadly discovers that he's ineligible for groupon pwnage because not a resident of Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont, or Washington.	[21:55]
pete_dushenski	how come americans get all the breaks ?	[21:56]
ben_vulpes	oh content thyself with not living in this insanely litigious 'soi-disant' state	[22:02]
BingoBoingo	We don't if you take the pitty check you forfeit your right to actual compensation down th eline	[22:02]
ben_vulpes	> actual compensation	[22:03]
ben_vulpes	haha bb you kill me	[22:03]
phf	actual compensation, flag on Reichstag?	[22:04]
BingoBoingo	Seriously ben_vulpes gotta read the small print. Probably in the near future going to be disclaimers leik "By accepting this you forfeit any claims to our anus in the name of TMSR"(tm)(r)	[22:04]
ben_vulpes	anyone writing contracts mentioning tmsr~ without being in the wot's looking for a paddlin	[22:06]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/08/it-takes-more-than-time-it-takes-generations/#comment-34659	[22:07]
assbot	It takes more than time. It takes generations. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDMeqq )	[22:07]
BingoBoingo	Which is why they might start.	[22:07]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: didja use tags ?	[22:08]
asciilifeform		[22:08]
asciilifeform	*quote	[22:08]
pete_dushenski	why the 'cite' ?	[22:08]
ben_vulpes	quite the block, that citation.	[22:08]
pete_dushenski	that mighta been the issue	[22:08]
asciilifeform	b0rk3d	[22:08]
pete_dushenski	i'll clean it up :)	[22:09]
asciilifeform	ty	[22:09]
adlai	deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1FFSQG1.txt	[22:10]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HDMlCn )	[22:10]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[22:10]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321050 << aha. but when i first saw it, i thought it to be a gag	[22:10]
assbot	Logged on 10-11-2015 00:46:43; pete_dushenski: anyways, the satoshi nobel thing is a few days old : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318943	[22:10]
asciilifeform	adlai: didja make a 'deedbot-fs' and using it for backups now?	[22:10]
asciilifeform	or what.	[22:10]
ben_vulpes	adlai: vV? MMM? vJ?	[22:11]
asciilifeform	if you wanna make him charge per kB, this is probably how.	[22:11]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: probably just trying to wind mircea_popescu up on other avenues	[22:11]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: the satoshi nobel thing is, yes, sort of a gag in the sense that browntown has 'suggested' that satoshi be nominated, not ~actually~ nominated him	[22:12]
pete_dushenski	and used his position of 'suggestor' to angle for a free buck	[22:12]
asciilifeform	oh for fucks sake adlai	[22:14]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/7hNKXMi	[22:16]
assbot	Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDMGEZ )	[22:16]
asciilifeform	was this really necessary.	[22:16]
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asciilifeform	^ contents of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321085	[22:17]
assbot	Logged on 10-11-2015 01:08:09; adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1FFSQG1.txt	[22:17]
ben_vulpes	phillips exeter, y'say?	[22:17]
ben_vulpes	how'd you pull that out, asciilifeform?	[22:17]
asciilifeform	with hands.	[22:17]
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asciilifeform	;;later tell adlai how do you get to be a chandrasekhar in israel ? and why so depressed.	[22:24]
BingoBoingo	!up PeterL	[22:24]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[22:24]
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BingoBoingo	!up Evolyn	[22:24]
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PeterL	greetings, earthlings	[22:24]
BingoBoingo	Greetings our beloved cook	[22:24]
asciilifeform	PeterL: greetings herr organiker	[22:25]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/08/it-takes-more-than-time-it-takes-generations/#comment-34662	[22:25]
assbot	It takes more than time. It takes generations. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDN86m )	[22:25]
pete_dushenski	unfortunately, that's all the time i have for now. later gents !	[22:25]
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mod6	ben_vulpes will now refer to this corner of the us as "the tonsils" << haha.	[22:29]
ben_vulpes	http://deedbot.org/bundle-375398.txt	[22:34]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HDNzO1 )	[22:34]
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BingoBoingo	http://takimag.com/article/mugging_me_softly_jim_goad#axzz3qgxdcog9	[23:10]
assbot	Mugging Me Softly - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDPTEO )	[23:10]
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asciilifeform	'When I met my friend for dinner and told him what happened, he speculated that I was being set up for a “soft mugging,” which is a term for when homeless people attach themselves to you and won’t leave until you give them some money.'	[23:24]
asciilifeform	^ i call this 'megging'	[23:25]
asciilifeform	and it's a thing.	[23:25]
BingoBoingo	It's totally a thing	[23:26]
BingoBoingo	http://jimgoad.net/images/coexist.jpg	[23:29]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MT0CTt )	[23:29]
BingoBoingo	^ From author's site	[23:29]
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hanbot	I stopped, looked him straight in the eyes, and said, “What’s going on here? Why are you following me?” << seriously? what happened to "fuck off"? "Oh, ---of CoUrSe--- I could've kung fu-ed..." but you didn't, schmuckelodeon. passive aggressive nonsense already, no wonder he's prey.	[23:39]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform what was that all about ?	[23:41]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[23:58]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 376.22, vol: 30395.91427305 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 372.5, vol: 10810.3052 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 378.93, vol: 38809.47548363 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 388.0, vol: 1.39112865 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 390.635712, vol: 54732.42380000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 376.50999, vol: 46.90146658 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 368.7936, vol: 126.60491756 \| Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	megging is totally a thing, i suspect half the marriages happen thrugh that method	[23:59]
BingoBoingo	;;more	[23:59]
gribble	382.542538549	[23:59]

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