Forum logs for 09 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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deadweasel	it quoted me@ 16:39:45	[00:01]
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deadweasel	it's ok, i'm famous now	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	lol that's a point	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	smickles it shouldn't mention people by name cause of hilighting issue	[00:01]
deadweasel	i shall never die!	[00:01]
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deadweasel	blockchain: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150730.msg1601711#msg1601711	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	yeah it's been down for a while.	[00:05]
deadweasel	i've been in aspergers irc channel all day and only 3 people have spoken	[00:06]
deadweasel	not really my place.	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:06]
deadweasel	#aspietalk	[00:06]
deadweasel	fuckin dead in there	[00:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 206 @ 0.18392015 = 37.8876 BTC [-]	[00:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 144 @ 0.22 = 31.68 BTC [+]	[00:08]
pigeons	try #bitcoin-otc	[00:08]
deadweasel	yuck	[00:09]
deadweasel	I'm gonna get these apies to talk if it kills me	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	but... why	[00:09]
deadweasel	why not?	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	k	[00:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000725 BTC [+]	[00:12]
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smickles	bah, i'll just stop the markov stuffs	[00:16]
smickles	and i spell poorly too often	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	markov may be a fun little side project	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	but it takes a lot of fiddling	[00:17]
jurov	;;bc,convert eur	[00:24]
gribble	1 BTC = 43.98000 U.S. dollars = 33.8047656 Euros	[00:24]
jurov	^ finally back to normal concerns	[00:25]
jurov	yup, CoinBr.MPBPT-E sells nicely	[00:27]
jurov	that trust amazes me... jumping now into something that will pay in the end of april.. maybe.	[00:27]
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jurov	;;bc,stats	[00:33]
gribble	Current Blocks: 224907 \| Current Difficulty: 4367876.0008422 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 \| Next Difficulty In: 884 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes, and 12 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 4768367.08384 \| Estimated Percent Change: 9.16901	[00:33]
jurov	CoinBr.iDiff-O March SALE: Now at 0.0580 only!	[00:34]
kakobrekla	http://mpex.coinbr.com/	[00:34]
kakobrekla	dis works?	[00:35]
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kakobrekla	jurov?	[00:36]
ThickAsThieves	not for me	[00:36]
jurov	hmmm	[00:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.5105 = 7.147 BTC [+]	[00:37]
kakobrekla	mpex servers are up	[00:37]
kakobrekla	so its not that.	[00:37]
ThickAsThieves	;;asks 1000	[00:37]
gribble	There are currently 105784.75 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 9308184.03323 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0048 seconds	[00:37]
ThickAsThieves	;;estimate	[00:37]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 4770622.24721 based on data since last change \| 4705708.63176 based on data for last three days	[00:37]
jurov	well, looks like it's hit	[00:40]
jurov	disconnected it, iptables time	[00:40]
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mircea_popescu	jurov lolz	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	smickles bring mpexbot post online pls.	[00:41]
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jurov	Mar 8 22:31:49 ip-10-48-233-64 kernel: [114573.916044] TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies. Check SNMP counters.	[00:53]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.679 BTC [-]	[01:02]
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kakobrekla	!mp	[01:15]
assbot	Please use http://dpaste.com/	[01:15]
kakobrekla	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016618/	[01:15]
assbot	Processing.	[01:15]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016619/	[01:15]
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jborkl_	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016621/	[01:18]
assbot	Processing.	[01:18]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016623/	[01:18]
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kakobrekla	well there you have it	[01:22]
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jborkl_	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016636/	[01:34]
assbot	Processing.	[01:34]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016637/plain/	[01:34]
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kakobrekla	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016640/	[01:35]
assbot	Processing.	[01:35]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016641/plain/	[01:35]
kakobrekla	werks.	[01:35]
jborkl_	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016642/	[01:37]
assbot	Processing.	[01:37]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016643/plain/	[01:37]
kakobrekla	hm?	[01:37]
jborkl_	it is saying unrecognized key	[01:38]
kakobrekla	i can see that	[01:38]
kakobrekla	can someone else try it	[01:39]
jborkl_	my key manager might be using the wrong default key	[01:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5299 = 5.299 BTC [+]	[01:41]
jborkl_	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016647/	[01:44]
assbot	Processing.	[01:44]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016648/plain/	[01:44]
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mod6	hey nanotube	[01:52]
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mod6	what's up with gribble.. needed to re-auth and it gave me this:	[01:53]
mod6	Forbidden	[01:53]
mod6	You don't have permission to access /otps/D655A630A13E8C69 on this server.	[01:53]
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mod6	Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.	[01:54]
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mod6	HALP!	[01:56]
kakobrekla	call nanotube	[01:56]
asa1024	Having a problem, Citizen?	[01:56]
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mod6	(15:52) < mod6> hey nanotube	[01:57]
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mod6	i can verify that this failure occurs on two sepearte hosts	[01:59]
smickles	< mircea_popescu> smickles bring mpexbot post online pls. << right away capin'	[02:00]
jurov	$hrlp	[02:01]
jurov	$help	[02:01]
mpexbot	jurov: (help [ ] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.	[02:01]
smickles	online tested and working	[02:02]
smickles	hmm, how to have help list the 3 commands	[02:03]
smickles	there are depth, vwap, and post	[02:03]
smickles	you can do a 'help ' to get specifics	[02:03]
smickles	$help vwap	[02:03]
mpexbot	smickles: (vwap Takes no arguments.) -- Returns all available market data, excepting depth	[02:03]
kakobrekla	hm?	[02:05]
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FabianB	$depth	[02:06]
mpexbot	FabianB: http://pastebin.com/4isFGaWt	[02:06]
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mod6	ok i was able to use MPEx via dpaste & assbot	[02:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00074998 BTC [+]	[02:13]
FabianB	works nicely	[02:15]
kakobrekla	cool mod6 thanks	[02:15]
mod6	np	[02:15]
mod6	i gotta see if any of the proxies can process PGP messages similar to mpex.co used to -- otherwise I gotta change my perl scripts	[02:16]
FabianB	if they are online, yes, works exactly the same	[02:17]
mod6	that'll be l33t	[02:17]
mod6	cause i can be lazy until i gotta update 'em with the new mpex key	[02:17]
mod6	;)	[02:17]
jurov	pympex should be spewing out messages with new key by now	[02:23]
jurov	checks	[02:23]
jurov	no it's not	[02:26]
jurov	datetime.utcnow() < datetime(2013, 3, 10, 23, 59, 59)	[02:26]
jurov	^something is wrong here	[02:26]
jurov	i understood the change will be tomorrow... March 10 midnight	[02:29]
mod6	yeah	[02:29]
mod6	same	[02:29]
jurov	looks like it's indeed switched	[02:30]
midnightmagic	;;calc 45*25	[02:30]
gribble	1125	[02:30]
jurov	everyone fix ya code to datetime.utcnow() < datetime(2013, 3, 9, 23, 59, 59)	[02:30]
jurov	sigh.	[02:30]
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mod6	when it rains, it pours	[02:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.69 = 6.9 BTC [+]	[02:34]
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mod6	well, ok gotta run for a bit here... but got lots more to do.	[02:35]
mod6	The good news is that MPEx orders are processing with ye ole assbot	[02:35]
mod6	:)	[02:35]
jurov	actually looks like both keys work now	[02:36]
jurov	so false alarm	[02:36]
mod6	oh thats cool. thanks for checking that out.	[02:36]
mod6	nanotube: when you get back... im still getting a 403 Forbidden when trying to get my OTP from gribble. I'll be back perhaps after midnight CDT if you need help or anything...	[02:38]
jurov	hm, mpex.coinbr.com back online although very slowly	[02:38]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [+]	[02:42]
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Bowjob	meow	[03:04]
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smickles	;;depth	[03:16]
gribble	Error: "depth" is not a valid command.	[03:16]
smickles	lol	[03:16]
smickles	woops	[03:16]
smickles	$depth	[03:16]
mpexbot	smickles: http://pastebin.com/4AHkvU29	[03:16]
smickles	$post ZNbMDwrk	[03:20]
mpexbot	smickles: http://pastebin.com/uWhRX9Br	[03:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 75 @ 0.02656921 = 1.9927 BTC [-]	[03:21]
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Namworld	mpx.coinbr.com no long works?	[03:29]
BitHub	blockchain not working?	[03:29]
pigeons	Namworld: he's using a bitvps	[03:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24899 BTC [-]	[03:33]
kakobrekla	not anymore	[03:33]
kakobrekla	afaik	[03:34]
pigeons	rackspace?	[03:34]
kakobrekla	he got kicked or smth	[03:34]
jurov	no quickly grabber amazon	[03:34]
jurov	*grabbed	[03:34]
jurov	but had to drop mpex.coinbr.com, it's just not manageable	[03:35]
kakobrekla	i have a proxy runing but only for people i death with this one aint leakin	[03:35]
kakobrekla	death = dealth	[03:35]
kakobrekla	but close.	[03:35]
jurov	me similarly	[03:35]
Namworld	Damn, mpex.coinbr.com was my only access	[03:35]
jurov	and messed up the setup a bit, coinbr.com will be available when dns clears out	[03:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5299 = 1.0598 BTC [+]	[03:50]
pigeons	really kind of ridiculous to make a story and pretend it means more than absolutely nothing	[03:57]
pigeons	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/03/08/first-bitcoin-hedge-fund-launches-from-malta/	[03:57]
pigeons	http://bitcoinfund.eu/joinus	[03:57]
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B0g4r7	http://bitbet.us/bet/261/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-15th/	[03:58]
B0g4r7	^ Suppose Luke-jr travels to BFL HQ next week and obtains BFL ASICs before the 15th. Will the bet be decided as true? Does it still count as "delivery" if he picks them up?	[03:59]
B0g4r7	I think he's an order-holding customer.	[04:00]
B0g4r7	preorder	[04:00]
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pigeons	he's a customer, it says customers	[04:01]
pigeons	plural	[04:01]
pigeons	so 2 people	[04:01]
pigeons	luke and giga	[04:02]
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kakobrekla	yeah	[04:03]
kakobrekla	the bet for May will exclude luke and giga	[04:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+]	[04:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.749 = 2.247 BTC [+]	[04:12]
smickles	!help	[04:15]
assbot	List of commands:	[04:15]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[04:15]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[04:15]
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smickles	$post WKARrrYc	[04:18]
mpexbot	smickles: http://pastebin.com/BQPH63iF	[04:18]
kakobrekla	>>Bitcoin is beta, SatoshiDICE is taking advantage of bugs in the software.	[04:22]
kakobrekla	ZOMG	[04:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.249 BTC [+]	[04:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.249 BTC [+]	[04:26]
Namworld	hmm, I can't decode MPEx's replies	[04:32]
smickles	Namworld: usin mpexbot?	[04:34]
Namworld	using a proxy just like mpex.coinbr.com	[04:34]
smickles	I was just recently able to decode an mpex reply	[04:35]
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jurov	just found out amazon s3 allows POSTS	[04:36]
Namworld	It says perhaps i didn't sign the key. But it worked before.	[04:36]
Namworld	jurov: so?	[04:37]
jurov	i'll do mpex proxy there, FUCK YA DDoSers	[04:37]
BitHub	is this done in real time?	[04:37]
Namworld	wow	[04:37]
BitHub	https://twitter.com/MPEx1	[04:37]
nanotube	mod6: kakobrekla fixed now.	[04:37]
kakobrekla	the what?	[04:37]
Namworld	that's neat of you.	[04:37]
Namworld	I'm booting my Bitcoin Armory. Tip incoming.	[04:37]
Namworld	It takes a while to boot tho	[04:38]
jurov	i can mirror mpex to the s3 cdn	[04:38]
jurov	continously	[04:38]
[\\\]	Namworld, get ssd, it loads in <1 minutes	[04:38]
[\\\]	-s	[04:38]
jurov	and it can accept post requests that show as files in s3 storage	[04:38]
[\\\]	lol, ddos amazon!	[04:39]
Namworld	... 1 minute?	[04:39]
Namworld	It takes me 40 minutes to boot the damn thing	[04:39]
jcpham	http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/06/tech-at-night-sacco-vanzetti-and-aaron-swartz-were-all-guilty-its-time-to-break-up-the-bitcoin-ring/	[04:39]
kakobrekla	lol	[04:39]
[\\\]	you need more ram	[04:39]
[\\\]	and an i7	[04:39]
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Namworld	I have hexacore with 8 GB ram... the ressources are hardly being used.	[04:40]
[\\\]	then you're doing something wrong	[04:41]
[\\\]	it shouldn't take that long	[04:41]
Namworld	Armory still takes it's goddamn sweet time to load	[04:41]
[\\\]	have you updated it?	[04:41]
Namworld	It also keeps crashing randomly. And yes, I update it.	[04:41]
Namworld	It just keeps screwing up.	[04:41]
[\\\]	heh	[04:41]
Namworld	months ago, it used to load in 3 minutes	[04:42]
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Namworld	now it crashes, doesn't update confirmations while running and take 40 minutes to boot.	[04:42]
Namworld	Reinstalling doesn't help.	[04:42]
[\\\]	bitcoin .8?	[04:43]
Namworld	.8?	[04:44]
Namworld	oh, a new bitcoind is out.	[04:45]
Namworld	I'll upgrade	[04:45]
Namworld	But I've been upgrading bitcoind/armory when new versions come out for quite some time and it never fixed anything.	[04:45]
jurov	this one makes a difference	[04:45]
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Namworld	I think it's more of a problem with Armory but eh	[04:46]
Namworld	I'm reloading the blockchain now...	[04:48]
Namworld	Damn, 0.8 is going much faster	[04:48]
Namworld	But .7 wasn't really slow to start with.	[04:48]
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mircea_popescu	ahh	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	so mpex.coinbr.com was down earlier and back up now ?	[05:00]
Namworld	no, still not back	[05:00]
pizzaman1337	yeah, 504	[05:00]
Namworld	the DDoS is persistent... It's been what, 2 or 3 days?	[05:01]
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nanotube	so, do we now have a complete bot interface to mpex?	[05:04]
Namworld	yes	[05:04]
mircea_popescu	nanotube two.	[05:04]
mircea_popescu	and imsaguy is working on the 3rd	[05:04]
mircea_popescu	the drawbacks of having a dayjob lol. it was his idea to start with	[05:04]
mircea_popescu	Namworld i see it ?	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	hm now its timing out	[05:05]
nanotube	great. :)	[05:06]
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Namworld	It was down. I think jurov is currently putting it back up on amazon	[05:06]
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mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.mpoe	[05:07]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067334 / 0.00073042 / 0.00075 (329638 shares, 240.77 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074909 / 0.00078628 (11033986 shares, 8,265.55 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00068474 / 0.00078628 (60249830 shares, 41,255.72 BTC)	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	so basically all systems are a go except web	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	this must be pissing the web crowd off	[05:08]
*	BitHub rages at mircea, throws monitor out the window	[05:08]
Namworld	Well I could sign orders manually and use the bot	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	7day OIX :	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	46.96 (48.56 / 33.66)	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	27`206.06 (89.3 / 10.7)	[05:09]
Namworld	But that's slow to swiftly switch orders around.	[05:09]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[05:09]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 43.90000, Best ask: 43.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09900, Last trade: 43.99900, 24 hour volume: 43158.15323252, 24 hour low: 42.00000, 24 hour high: 44.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.43720	[05:09]
Namworld	Good for just placing an order or two.	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	Namworld i suppose you could write an irc bot of your own	[05:09]
Bowjob	why dont we stop selling BTC for USD and jus BTC all together	[05:09]
Bowjob	that way gox prices wont go down, and if we pay with BTC the value doesnt go down	[05:09]
Namworld	That would be assuming I could even program such a thing. I don't have the know-how to.	[05:09]
Bowjob	seems like a win win situation if everyone does that	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	Namworld im sure one will crop up soon enough, much like pympex did	[05:10]
Bowjob	if they sell to USD, its lose-lose. btc value goes down and they get fiat	[05:10]
Bowjob	lol	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob don't tell me about it, i aint sellin :)	[05:10]
Namworld	Because merchants being paid in BTC needs to sell them to buy the goods from others in USD...	[05:10]
jurov	and i'm researching users posting orders directly into amazon s3 :)	[05:11]
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mircea_popescu	http://blockchain.info/ still dead ?	[05:11]
Bowjob	those merchants that need goods should pay other merchants in btc	[05:11]
Bowjob	and so forth	[05:11]
Namworld	a DDoS resistant MPEx interface.	[05:11]
Bowjob	mhm	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	lol well folks... i hate to be the one feeding the conspiracy theories, but	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	while it's marginally possible some random internet bloke has the power to be doing all this, it seems somewhat unlikely.	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	there is a lot of skill and there are a lot of resources involved with such ample ddosing	[05:12]
jborkl_	i already thought of this, and I know who	[05:12]
Namworld	Anyone with a good botnet could do so, but why?	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	just the traffic i've clocked, and i've not clocked all of it, would have cost on the black market a good few thousand $$$	[05:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 11 @ 0.62997 = 6.9297 BTC [-]	[05:13]
Namworld	Where's the request for money for it to stop?	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	even if im getting half of all ddos bitcoing is getting , that puts the total cost of this adventure in the 10k range	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	not counting the time and effort involved on the admin side	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	Namworld no, not anyone.	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	there's literally not that many people with a botnet good enough	[05:14]
Namworld	Unless it was started by a botnet owner, not purchased off the black market.	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	also there's risks involved (if you run it continuously isps find your zombies)	[05:14]
Namworld	Infected computers don't cost much to operate.	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	ya but ideologically speaking, it'd seem an odd fit to ddos bitcoin	[05:14]
Namworld	Seems it's targeting MPEx only.	[05:15]
Namworld	MPEx has a huge wallet... I would have thought ransom request.	[05:15]
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mircea_popescu	some people have thought so/asked, but...	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	nothing so far.	[05:15]
jborkl_	whoo is the biggest dipshit with a grudge? There is your answer	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	and blockchain.info wallet for instance isn't all that fat.	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	jborkl_ i dunno ?	[05:16]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/44886495299/audio-erik-voorhees-on-the-peter-schiff-show	[05:16]
jborkl_	that Has 24hr access to botnets	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	um	[05:17]
smickles	eskimo!	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	lol totally.	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	muggos	[05:17]
smickles	no	[05:18]
smickles	ciuciu	[05:18]
smickles	that guy was off a whole other hinge	[05:18]
Namworld	I don't think any of these individuals have such botnet access.	[05:18]
smickles	prolly not	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	ciuciu couldn't afgford to retire his 50 btc debt are you kidding m,e ?	[05:18]
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mircea_popescu	deposits/withdrawals flushed	[05:23]
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pigeons	if someone wants to pm me a proxy	[05:24]
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hanbot	aites. thar is! one last bitbet thingy i need to asks about, that being: http://bitbet.us/admin/resolve/43/ has been awaiting resolution a few days, cause awaiting info to be publisht (one of the first bets i put in, weird resolution/closing date delay)	[05:25]
hanbot	in the meantime billboard has completely changed their charts	[05:25]
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BitHub	hey guys check out my ticker bithub.asia hope to be adding some assets prices and gold and silver prices soon :)	[05:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [+]	[05:28]
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mircea_popescu	anyone want to process a coupla donations to freenode for me ? you need cc/pp	[05:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.52998999 BTC [+]	[05:29]
pizzaman1337	mircea_popescu: how much money are we talking?	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	like 60 gbp	[05:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.54879 BTC [+]	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	BitHub o wow, marquee.. haven't seen that in a while	[05:31]
dub	you can get a spoof for free just ask in #freenode	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	i want to pay them tho.	[05:31]
BitHub	thanks mircea, hope to have some mpex in there soon and have it in real time	[05:32]
kakobrekla	pigeons did you get it?	[05:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.569 = 9.104 BTC [+]	[05:34]
jborkl_	Illlsend it Mp, tell me the detdeta	[05:35]
jborkl_	details	[05:35]
Chaang-Noi	blockchain.info down?	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi since this morning	[05:35]
jborkl_	goddam. Phone	[05:35]
Chaang-Noi	thanks	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	something/somebody is going after crucial bitcoin infrastructure	[05:35]
Chaang-Noi	im not too shocked, someone just wants lower priced coins	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	prolly.	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	mpex is hanging by a thread, mostly because it doesn't actually need a website	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	but website centric services are going to be painful.	[05:36]
Namworld	Someone manipulated the price. Convinced businesses to accept Bitcoin and newswriter to make good articles.	[05:37]
Namworld	Now that he's sold at a hefty price all he got, he's attacking stuff to send it all back down.	[05:37]
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mircea_popescu	it won't work.	[05:38]
Namworld	Doesn't seem to be.	[05:38]
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BitHub	so	[05:39]
BitHub	government, trolls?	[05:39]
Chaang-Noi	holy shit, is today saterday?	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	yes	[05:40]
Namworld	yes, for you at least	[05:40]
Namworld	almost for me	[05:40]
BitHub	yep saturday lunch time	[05:40]
Chaang-Noi	oh fuck, i thought it was sunday	[05:40]
Chaang-Noi	oh wow	[05:40]
Chaang-Noi	i got messed up on thursday	[05:41]
BitHub	niiiice	[05:41]
BitHub	good break from bitcoin	[05:41]
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smickles	Chaang-Noi: what have you been drinking recently?	[05:43]
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dub	mircea_popescu: fatter tube holding up?	[05:53]
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mircea_popescu	dub so far we're doing irc bot trade.	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	!help	[05:54]
assbot	List of commands:	[05:54]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[05:54]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	$help	[05:54]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: (help [ ] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	bah	[05:54]
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mircea_popescu	$help post	[05:54]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: (post ) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.	[05:54]
BitHub	irc trade is cool	[05:54]
BitHub	i like the idea of twitter trading for mainstreamers for situations like this	[05:54]
Chaang-Noi	on bitfunder can you not see the market if you do not have an account?	[05:55]
BitHub	you can see what each asset is worth	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[05:55]
BitHub	and bids and asks on teh asset	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	actually brokers also work fine, the only thing off is the website	[05:55]
dub	Chaang-Noi: https://bitfunder.com/market	[05:55]
Chaang-Noi	thanks dub facepalm for no link to that one the homepage...	[05:56]
dub	its there the site doesnt work in some browsers	[05:56]
dub	I had the same problem	[05:56]
Chaang-Noi	oh	[05:56]
dub	you can still facepalm	[05:57]
Chaang-Noi	asicminer at .7 on both sites, not bad	[05:57]
BitHub	brokers?	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	BitHub yes. jurov, smickles etc	[05:57]
BitHub	ahh so you actually have mpex brokers that can trade outside of mpex?	[05:57]
BitHub	sorry i thought it was something dif	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	what do you mean outside of mpex ?!	[05:58]
BitHub	so i could be a broker for outsiders just by having a membership? :)	[05:58]
pigeons	yawn http://www.pymnts.com/briefing-room/PYMNTS-International/2013/02/How-Owning-Bitcoin-Is-Owning-An-ETF-On-The-Whole-Bitcoin-Space	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	;;eauth mircea_popescu	[05:58]
gribble	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	BitHub yup	[05:58]
BitHub	ima have to sign up if i ever see 30btc to spare	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:f1d64cbfe5e2c1cd476971545c0677c8865a7770210dd351e8d0d57a	[05:59]
BitHub	have*	[05:59]
gribble	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	;;rate pizzaman1337 2 Official supplier of freenode chains.	[06:00]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user pizzaman1337 has been recorded.	[06:00]
pizzaman1337	;;rate mircea_popescu 2 MPEx and one otc deal	[06:03]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.	[06:03]
Bowjob	this btc sell off is mildly entertaining	[06:04]
Bowjob	watching coinlab.. bulls vs bears fighting	[06:04]
pigeons	sel off? its higher than last time i looked by a few dollars	[06:05]
pizzaman1337	;;rate kakobrekla 3 Great experience with Bit4X, highly recommended	[06:06]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user kakobrekla has been recorded.	[06:06]
kakobrekla	thanks :)	[06:06]
pizzaman1337	np, thank you, man	[06:07]
smickles	< mircea_popescu> what do you mean outside of mpex ?! << transfer ownership of mpex assest as people, preferrably with contracts	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	that'd seem to be inside of mpex :p	[06:08]
smickles	just because it's in my mpex account, doesn't mean i necessarily own it. I may hold it for another who then wants to trade with a third who wants me to hold it for them as well	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	hm is kakobrekla catching up ?	[06:08]
smickles	trade happened off mpex	[06:08]
kakobrekla	yeah, better downrate me quick mircea_popescu	[06:08]
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mircea_popescu	totally.	[06:08]
kakobrekla	;)	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	smickles well, let's see here.	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	on one hand, if you're a broker, then you enter trades into the exchange at the behest of customers.	[06:09]
kakobrekla	id be at 200 if id been a rating whore	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	if you don't enter the trades you're not a broker, you're a bucket shot.	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	on the other hand, if you're acting in a private capacity obviously you can do whatever you want with your own assets.	[06:09]
doctor_pullfingr	what's a bucket shot?	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	now, as long as the third party knows this, ie, you're not presenting yourself as a broker when you're not brokering this is all fine	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	;;google bucket shop	[06:10]
gribble	Bucket shop (stock market) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Bucket shop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Bucket Shop Cafe:	[06:10]
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smickles	also there is the taboo way to trade off mpex	[06:10]
smickles	or actually	[06:10]
pigeons	ripple ious for mpex assets	[06:11]
kakobrekla	:D	[06:11]
smickles	how about this, register, buy X, sell the gpg key	[06:11]
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mircea_popescu	well, it's not taboo, it's just kinda stupid	[06:11]
smickles	or rather, sell X and deliver the key	[06:11]
doctor_pullfingr	has anyone tried open transactions ious? I like that ripple idea but they don't have a server	[06:11]
doctor_pullfingr	I think you only get one key	[06:12]
pigeons	doctor_pullfingr: knotwork runs 2 open-transactions servers. ripple does have a server. do you mean cause they didnt open source the server yet?	[06:12]
smickles	i tried OT, but it took so much to install on my system that i kinda burned out on it	[06:12]
doctor_pullfingr	i don't care if they open source the server or whatever, private licensees is fine, I just want my own server.	[06:13]
smickles	afaik, you get as many keys as you buy	[06:13]
smickles	(well, that's a silly way to put it)	[06:13]
doctor_pullfingr	yes, I meant one key for 30 btc.	[06:14]
pigeons	you can have as many keys as you like but the keys arent "active" without 200 xrp owner reserve + 50 xrp + 50 xrp per trust line	[06:14]
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kakobrekla	any practical uses for ripple yet?	[06:15]
pigeons	same as before, private payment networks, plus now the integration with bitstamp and ukto's weexchange	[06:16]
doctor_pullfingr	Oh, I thought you meant sell the mpex key. I got the free ripples so I can sign up people already have, but I still want my own server.	[06:16]
doctor_pullfingr	for arbitrage or something	[06:17]
doctor_pullfingr	maybe one of those fancy ripple gateways	[06:17]
mircea_popescu	is bitstamp the russian one ?	[06:18]
kakobrekla	slovenian	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	with the novacocacoin ?	[06:18]
kakobrekla	that is btc-e	[06:18]
kakobrekla	i think	[06:18]
kakobrekla	bitstamp is retarded, the only reason they have so big market share is cause they dont hassle folks with ids n stuff	[06:19]
doctor_pullfingr	thanks mp for the lesson I'll be changing my nick to bucketshop soon	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	a ok	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:20]
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doctor_pullfingr	kakobrekla aren't we discussing the practical use of ripple?	[06:21]
kakobrekla	the practical use of ripple invloves bitstamp which involves retardation	[06:22]
Bowjob	http://www.runtogold.com/images/potential-bitcoin-prices.jpg	[06:22]
Bowjob	This got me a boner	[06:22]
Bowjob	lol	[06:22]
Bowjob	lalaland	[06:22]
doctor_pullfingr	I think there is a ripple gateway client in the wild but to make it work with mpex seat you need the to server. I'm floating the idea for comments, I don't know for sure if this will work.	[06:24]
doctor_pullfingr	*ot server	[06:24]
mircea_popescu	you need the what ?	[06:24]
knotwork	There is some kind of ubunto install now for OT, you just tell your system about the repo and use apt-get or somesuch to install it	[06:25]
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doctor_pullfingr	mp Open Transactions Server	[06:27]
mircea_popescu	why ?	[06:27]
knotwork	no idea, I dont see how OT helps with mpex really	[06:29]
maximian	can someone pm me an mpex proxy?	[06:29]
doctor_pullfingr	If I want to sell ripple ious where people pay me bullshit fiat and I automatically purchase beloved satoshi dice, then I need something that talks to mpex. I think OT is the closest tool for that,,but some automation is probably lacking.	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	what's wrong with pympex ?	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	maximian :	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	!help	[06:31]
assbot	List of commands:	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	$help post	[06:31]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[06:31]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: (post ) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.	[06:31]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[06:31]
maximian	I'm lazy… just wanted to replace a string in pympex	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	a kk	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	didn't know if you knew or not	[06:32]
doctor_pullfingr	nothing at all wrong with pympex. I use it happily. Are you	[06:32]
maximian	does pympex now work with this irc bot?	[06:32]
Namworld	Would be nice, but no.	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	nah, it would have to be encapsulated into a supybot	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	kinda trivial but someone has to sit down and do it	[06:34]
doctor_pullfingr	I;lll give it a shot	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	doctor_pullfingr im just thinking, you want to talk to mpex programatically, pympex is like two pages of python	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	there's also a perl script	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	seem the easiest, just use as a lib	[06:35]
maximian	mircea_popescu: what about setting up 100 AWS t1.micro instances (only $23/year if reserved, or $1.91/month), and install the proxy server and bind on each. Then add all 100 instance IPs as A records to mpex.co.	[06:35]
doctor_pullfingr	I'm kinda worried about security on that approach because Im just some warehouse developer.	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	maximian wanna do it ?	[06:36]
maximian	LOL… I have a life :)	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	doctor_pullfingr i scarcely see how more code can mean more security, in principle.	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	maximian :p	[06:37]
Bowjob	someone in the us got their Avalon now	[06:38]
Bowjob	take that BFL	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	bfl is so dead...	[06:38]
Bowjob	i wonder how likely it is that by the time my avalon 2 ships, bfl still hasn't shipped?	[06:38]
doctor_pullfingr	I'm not at all against that, just voicing a concern. I had the idea that the developer for the OT server thought more about authentication more than I care to think about it	[06:38]
Bowjob	theres 200 BTC say NO on bitbet	[06:38]
Bowjob	damn	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[06:38]
Bowjob	was it you?	[06:38]
Bowjob	or bfl themselves lol	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	doctor_pullfingr yeah, i'm mostly talking outloud on the topic too	[06:39]
knotwork	mpex uses gpg authentication though so why you need OT's auth on top of that?	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob who knows	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	knotwork i took it he meant he's concerned as to what to do with the data coming out of pympex	[06:39]
Bowjob	i feel bad for mr 500 BTC on yes	[06:39]
knotwork	though I suppose you could plug in GPG libs instead of OTs currencty crypto libs since it meant to be pluggable	[06:39]
doctor_pullfingr	I don't have enough rich friends where I can convince them to spend 30 BTC per account.	[06:40]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob bitbet is doing some brisk trade this month for sure	[06:40]
knotwork	what is the actual use case? own things in mpex on behalf of people you act as broker for?	[06:40]
doctor_pullfingr	pretty much. yes.	[06:40]
mircea_popescu	prolly jurov can help you there	[06:41]
Namworld	I have passthrough	[06:41]
Namworld	passthroughs*	[06:41]
knotwork	so you want to tamper-proof your own records of what you are holding on behalf of who?	[06:41]
maximian	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016859/	[06:41]
assbot	Processing.	[06:41]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016860/plain/	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	dude this irc bot thing is so cute...	[06:42]
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maximian	That's so fucking cool	[06:42]
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mircea_popescu	maximian ikr ?!	[06:42]
maximian	it just needs to be integrated into pympex and we're done	[06:42]
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knotwork	its suprising people actually use IRC bot. I made entire exchanges between umpteen coin types before and no one ever used it	[06:43]
mircea_popescu	knotwork when i brought mpex back after it's half day pause yest	[06:43]
mircea_popescu	trades kept dinging i dunno if any under 50 btc	[06:43]
mircea_popescu	like maybe 1k in an hour	[06:43]
knotwork	yeah weird, as it even still needs the gpg that people complain about	[06:44]
knotwork	mine was plain IRC bot, just say hello to it give it password, standard insecure crap like normal people seem to prefer	[06:45]
knotwork	held wallet for you based on your IRC nick, one wallet per type of altcoin	[06:45]
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knotwork	is it true at all that using Tor .onion site or i2p site these DDOS attacks would not work?	[06:46]
knotwork	I would've though the DDOS might just kind of clog entire Tor or i2p system	[06:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.545 = 1.635 BTC [-]	[06:48]
maximian	It looks like you can actually start 100 t1.micro instances in Amazon's Ireland data centre… tempting	[06:51]
maximian	keep it out of the U.S.	[06:51]
pizzaman1337	but Amazon is a US company	[06:51]
maximian	true	[06:51]
maximian	I wonder how that plays out legally	[06:51]
doctor_pullfingr	so, sounds like old school irc server and irc bot/supybot/pympex is all I need	[06:51]
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doctor_pullfingr	to hook up mpex to ripple	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	knotwork the tor proposition is a little more complicated	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	there are chokepoints	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	maximian so go for it, you'll have a second life	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	doctor_pullfingr i don't see why you'd need an irc server	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	just get a vps, run a supybot on it,	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	to talk to the irc bots, and you're golden	[06:54]
maximian	it'd be $437/month on a spot-price basis	[06:54]
mircea_popescu	alternatively, wait till main mpex.co comes online	[06:54]
mircea_popescu	maximian if you do it i'll cover your first month.	[06:54]
knotwork	does email still work for communicating with mpex?	[06:55]
mircea_popescu	knotwork what do yo umean still ?	[06:55]
knotwork	its how I originally isgned up I think?	[06:55]
knotwork	tho hmm maybe I did use web for status command	[06:56]
mircea_popescu	a yeah, t osign up. you gotta send me your public key	[06:56]
mircea_popescu	but mx down atm. send me a pastie	[06:56]
knotwork	oh but thats it, email doesnt work for whole panoply of commands?	[06:56]
mircea_popescu	knotwork it never did. i said at some point day before yest that if the worst comes to worst im taking mpex to email	[06:57]
mircea_popescu	as a sort of bottom.	[06:57]
Namworld	Someone would have to be strongly dedicated for that to happen tho	[06:58]
Namworld	Anyway, I'm off to sleep. Night	[06:58]
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Bowjob	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534.1360	[07:00]
Bowjob	These are some delicious pictures	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	cool	[07:01]
mircea_popescu	so avalon hashing	[07:01]
Bowjob	68 gigahash	[07:01]
Bowjob	printing over $300 equivalent	[07:02]
Bowjob	per day	[07:02]
Bowjob	mhm	[07:02]
Bowjob	not bad	[07:02]
Bowjob	Also,	[07:03]
Bowjob	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.0	[07:03]
Bowjob	Looks like BFL might downgrade their specs	[07:03]
maximian	$depth	[07:04]
mpexbot	maximian: http://pastebin.com/ESBV6WRm	[07:04]
mircea_popescu	bfl wil lgo down in history.	[07:04]
jcpham	who wants me to tell them how paranoid i am	[07:07]
jcpham	it's an interesting story about two events	[07:07]
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mircea_popescu	go ahead	[07:07]
jcpham	i received two phone calls this evening within 10 minutes on different phones	[07:08]
jcpham	unintelligellible speech	[07:08]
jcpham	one by voicemail	[07:08]
jcpham	one i spoke to	[07:08]
jcpham	i think it was information gathering	[07:08]
pizzaman1337	https://blockchain.info/ is back	[07:08]
jcpham	i'm downloading the voicemail recording to study the waveform	[07:09]
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mircea_popescu	jcpham what information would be gathered ?	[07:15]
jcpham	i'm not sure... my voice, my location	[07:15]
jcpham	considering how often my phone rings	[07:16]
Ukto	Bowjob: so that was another batch 1 shipment that got delivered today? 0,o	[07:18]
Ukto	seems a bit behind	[07:18]
Bowjob	behind against?	[07:19]
Bowjob	its not like all the people who got them are posting	[07:19]
Bowjob	this chinese dude didnt tell the forums until he had problems	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	well, they did take forever]	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	originally it was going to be shipped in january	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	but still. deliveries are deliveries.	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	;;tslb	[07:20]
gribble	Time since last block: 14 minutes and 31 seconds	[07:20]
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Ukto	ahh, i saw the package picture and thought it just arrived	[07:21]
jcpham	gavin emailed some pools	[07:24]
jcpham	suggested increasing block limit	[07:24]
mircea_popescu	paste ?	[07:25]
jcpham	or reminded them of where the config settings for this are located	[07:25]
jcpham	bitcoinfoundation blog	[07:25]
jcpham	prolly wanna follow that one	[07:25]
jcpham	https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=135	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	lol at this guy	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	he's not recommending anything but here's some guesswork.	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	gavin should working in the bitcoin diplomatic corps	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	with nanotube	[07:28]
jcpham	it's better than nothing	[07:29]
mircea_popescu	hey, i'm for it.	[07:30]
jcpham	i like how he does fear, uncertainty, and doubt as three separate bitcointalk forum links	[07:30]
mircea_popescu	i had closed it before that	[07:30]
jcpham	awwwwww	[07:30]
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mircea_popescu	i skim.	[07:32]
nanotube	>_>	[07:33]
jcpham	nanotube how goes the diplomatic corps	[07:34]
jcpham	the kids are totally abusing gribble	[07:34]
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nanotube	:)	[07:48]
jborkl	! Mp http://pastebin.com/FZPJL3V6	[07:49]
jborkl	!mp http://pastebin.com/FZPJL3V6	[07:50]
assbot	Please use http://dpaste.com/	[07:50]
mircea_popescu	jborkl the mpexbot uses pastebin	[07:50]
mircea_popescu	you got them mingled	[07:50]
mircea_popescu	$post FZPJL3V6	[07:50]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/VEWf0P3T	[07:51]
jborkl	Ok, I almost have it worked out, to take mpex on your phone	[07:51]
jborkl	Trade	[07:51]
mircea_popescu	kickass	[07:51]
mircea_popescu	mod6 you hear that ? they're stealing your pie man!	[07:51]
jborkl	Two steps, working out the kinks	[07:51]
nanotube	!help	[07:51]
assbot	List of commands:	[07:51]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[07:51]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[07:51]
nanotube	mmm :)	[07:52]
mircea_popescu	nanotube $help post	[07:52]
nanotube	$help post	[07:53]
mpexbot	nanotube: (post ) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.	[07:53]
nanotube	nice :)	[07:53]
nanotube	maybe consider making a separate channel with some help in topic.	[07:53]
mircea_popescu	possibly.	[07:53]
mircea_popescu	tho... to what benefit ?	[07:53]
nanotube	to make the different bots and their commands more discoverable...	[07:53]
mircea_popescu	bots also rtake pms	[07:53]
mircea_popescu	yeah the topic might use some reworking. things very fluid still.	[07:54]
nanotube	k. looking good :)	[07:54]
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mircea_popescu	anyway. the main mpex should be online soon and maybe maximian brings online a suite of tinies ?	[07:55]
jborkl	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016902/	[07:57]
assbot	Processing.	[07:57]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016904/plain/	[07:57]
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jborkl	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016906/	[08:00]
assbot	Processing.	[08:00]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016907/plain/	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	jborkl which mpex key are you using?	[08:00]
jborkl	F3e1	[08:01]
jborkl	I got it off the key server,since I am doing this on my phone	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	it's only the 9th	[08:03]
mircea_popescu	F1B69921 not expired yet	[08:03]
jborkl	Ok, thanks. The phone will trade easily with the bot	[08:03]
jborkl	Only a couple steps, and they could be combined	[08:04]
mircea_popescu	pretty cool	[08:04]
jborkl	It opens the potential, so people don't have to use python or be proficient with gpg	[08:05]
mircea_popescu	yup	[08:05]
jborkl	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016911/	[08:10]
assbot	Processing.	[08:10]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016913/plain/	[08:10]
mircea_popescu	Nearly 80 percent of New York City high school graduates need to relearn basic skills before they can enter the City University’s community college system. They had to re-learn basic skills — reading, writing and math — first before they could begin college courses.	[08:13]
mircea_popescu	win.	[08:13]
mircea_popescu	jborkl i wonder what the trouble is there.	[08:13]
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Rick__	Hi,why MPEx still cant be used?	[08:16]
Rick__	And I withdrawed 423bitcoin yesterday,and didnt receive yet	[08:16]
jborkl	¡	[08:17]
Bowjob	shit	[08:17]
Bowjob	i forgot how to read	[08:17]
Bowjob	how the fuck do you forget how to read	[08:17]
Rick__	any MPEx staff here?	[08:18]
mircea_popescu	Rick__ sup rick	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	looky here :	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	$help	[08:20]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: (help [ ] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.	[08:20]
Rick__	MPEx,I still cant open the website	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	yes, but you can use these bots to trade with.	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	$help post	[08:20]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: (post ) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	!help	[08:20]
assbot	List of commands:	[08:20]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[08:20]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	you put your command into either pastebin or dpaste	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	then you give the bot the id of it	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	and it gives you back a link to the response	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	i've flushed deposits/withdrawals a number of times since yesterday,	[08:21]
Rick__	so complicated for me~~~~~~	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	if you didn't get yours processed tghere was a problem with it (such as it being larger than the amt available, for instance)	[08:22]
Rick__	so when can I receive my withdraw?	[08:22]
Rick__	it's 423	[08:22]
jborkl	Mp, I am just tired. But I have it worked out to trade from the phone easily	[08:22]
mircea_popescu	Rick__ if you've not received it yet there was a problem with it	[08:23]
mircea_popescu	do a STAT to make sure what you can withdraw the do a withdrawal.	[08:23]
mircea_popescu	jborkl very cool	[08:23]
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mircea_popescu	Rick__ do you understand ?	[08:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.74 = 13.32 BTC [-]	[08:25]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.749 = 1.498 BTC [+]	[08:25]
Rick__	o shit,you are right,I put a number big then I have	[08:25]
Rick__	my mistake	[08:25]
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mircea_popescu	np.	[08:26]
Rick__	and about the bots,I can only use them here?	[08:26]
mircea_popescu	issue a fixed order, i'm arround so it will be processed fast.	[08:26]
mircea_popescu	Rick__ yes, at the moment.	[08:26]
mircea_popescu	we are working to bring much more power online, but it may take a little longer.	[08:26]
Rick__	and when will the MPEx be back/	[08:26]
mircea_popescu	as soon as possible. you can read a status update on the forum	[08:27]
Rick__	link	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1598165#msg1598165	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	here and read down it's the whole story.	[08:27]
Rick__	thank you	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	also people like jborkl_ are working to bring trade interface to phones	[08:27]
Rick__	and how can I give a withdraw command here/	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	i'll walk you through it.	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	first make the clearsigned and encrypted text for it as normal	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	then put it in pastebin.com	[08:28]
Rick__	okay,wait	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	np	[08:28]
Rick__	about trade interface to phones,that's very very useful,I want know more later	[08:29]
Rick__	pastebin.com is a website?I cant open it	[08:30]
mircea_popescu	yes http://pastebin.com/	[08:30]
mircea_popescu	you can not open that ?	[08:30]
Rick__	cant dame Chinese net	[08:31]
Rick__	Let me try another way	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	ok alternative :	[08:32]
mircea_popescu	dpaste.com	[08:32]
mircea_popescu	can you see that ?	[08:32]
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Rick__	yes,this one works	[08:33]
Rick__	and put my text in this one?	[08:33]
mircea_popescu	yes	[08:33]
Rick__	and what's Syntax	[08:33]
mircea_popescu	then say !mp url	[08:33]
Rick__	title name and email	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	nono	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	you put the gpg result.	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	first you make your order	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	then gpg --clearsign	[08:34]
Rick__	yes, just the code,leave other things along?	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	yes they dnot matter	[08:35]
mircea_popescu	dont*	[08:35]
Rick__	Okay,done	[08:38]
Rick__	can you see my order?	[08:38]
mircea_popescu	you've not ordered it to the bot	[08:39]
mircea_popescu	say !mp your paste url	[08:39]
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mircea_popescu	Rick__ what's the url to the paste you made ?	[08:40]
Rick__	sorry	[08:40]
Rick__	first which is the url you are talking about,i dont understand	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	something like	[08:41]
Rick__	"url" define it please	[08:41]
mircea_popescu	http://dpaste.com/1016940/	[08:41]
Rick__	yes,mine is http://dpaste.com/1016930/	[08:41]
mircea_popescu	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016930/	[08:41]
assbot	Processing.	[08:41]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016944/plain/	[08:41]
mircea_popescu	there's your response from mpex.	[08:42]
Rick__	Okay,cool	[08:42]
Rick__	now understand a bit	[08:42]
Rick__	sorry,I dont know much about computer	[08:42]
mircea_popescu	flushed.	[08:43]
mircea_popescu	;;tslb	[08:45]
gribble	Time since last block: 13 minutes and 9 seconds	[08:45]
Rick__	Okay,I gott go,and waiting for MPEx back	[08:46]
mircea_popescu	later!	[08:47]
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BitHub	is the mpex api data working atm?	[09:05]
the-bucket-shop	checking	[09:05]
BitHub	thank you	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	$vwap	[09:05]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/KcmBKFe0	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	seems so	[09:06]
BitHub	ahh sweet thank you sir	[09:06]
mod6	hey guys	[09:08]
mod6	thanks nanotube!	[09:08]
BitHub	i guess i have to wait for website to come back to get a website version of the api?	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[09:12]
mircea_popescu	answer kinda included in the questions innit :D	[09:12]
jcpham	i have another super awesome blog-a-ma-post	[09:18]
jcpham	coming soon!	[09:18]
jcpham	about how me and this dude are video collaborating using mega.co.nz	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	cool	[09:19]
jcpham	me and my friend nick were bitching about how we don't have dropbox accounts	[09:19]
jcpham	that hold hundreds of gbs	[09:19]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ 220 to 52 against	[09:19]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ 100 to 13 for	[09:20]
mircea_popescu	dude avalon is wiping the floor with bfl	[09:20]
jcpham	i should've ordered	[09:20]
jcpham	they were quick to deliver on fpga	[09:20]
jcpham	nzghang or whatever his name is	[09:20]
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mircea_popescu	yeah	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	isn't he the guy whi discovered the chips bfl used in fpga ?	[09:21]
jcpham	probably most likely	[09:22]
jcpham	seems like he reverse engineered it	[09:23]
jcpham	or identified it using all knowlege available	[09:23]
dub	he scraped the plastic off	[09:25]
jcpham	http://imgur.com/6Xe1Gw9	[09:26]
jcpham	maybe he watched the history channel	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	lol	[09:28]
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midnightmagic	ngzhang is the one who reverse-engineered the identities of the fpga in bfl singles.	[09:49]
midnightmagic	ngzhang reconnected a trace that had been destroyed which prevented the chip from identifying itself normally.	[09:49]
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midnightmagic	he is also the most ethical businessperson, next to magicaltux, I have ever seen operating in the ethics-challenged bitcoinland.	[09:50]
midnightmagic	present company excepted from such a comparison of course.	[09:51]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla http://goldprice.org/axstone/uploaded_images/gold_pull-723168.jpg	[09:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00575 BTC [+]	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	have you seen that before ?	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic what's some highlights of magicaltux ethicalness ?	[09:54]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: Paying out-of-pocket for all hacks/malfunctions, giving out free yubikeys to help secure accounts, sponsoring events, fighting legal battles to help keep bitcoin legal, maintaining privacy of accounts (excepting the coinlab thing,) participating in infrastructure rollout, keeping permanent historical account trade records..	[09:56]
mircea_popescu	i do recall the absorbing of the failed polish exchange	[09:57]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: he also strongly fights against illegal activities and thefts that use his systems for laundry activities.	[09:57]
mircea_popescu	but otherwise, no. trades were rolled back during their hack	[09:57]
midnightmagic	he lost 2000 btc from that, and paid out-of-pocket.	[09:58]
midnightmagic	so.. yes.	[09:58]
mircea_popescu	keyword being all.	[09:58]
mircea_popescu	they were out about 180mn dollars on that trade	[09:58]
Ukto	"avalon is wiping the floor with bfl" and "asicminer is wiping the floor with avalon"	[09:58]
midnightmagic	I'm failing to see how doing an exchange rollback as a result of unauthorized account activity is itself unethical.	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	Ukto how much do they have online yet ?	[09:59]
midnightmagic	;-)	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic i didn't say it's ethical.	[09:59]
Ukto	over 9000	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	paying out of pocked for all hacks/malfunctions means they honor every single order at 1 cent a bitcoin that was ever made.	[09:59]
Ukto	well, over 10th	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	Ukto so like 150 nominal avalons ?	[10:00]
midnightmagic	not in the context of ethical outline	[10:00]
mircea_popescu	okay.	[10:00]
Ukto	more I am sure	[10:00]
mircea_popescu	Ukto they were 60gh each, by spec iirc	[10:00]
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Ukto	therebouts	[10:01]
Ukto	except AMs turnup time is far faster	[10:01]
Ukto	I can only say so much	[10:01]
Ukto	:)	[10:01]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic the sticky issues in my mind is whether the hacked account at that time was mtgox selftrading on customer credit, and whether the email leak at that time is something they failed to prevent	[10:01]
Ukto	kinda sad since i bought avalons and rooting for them	[10:01]
Ukto	but i know the reality of things hehe	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	well, so they come out to about even as best i can see.	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	both had product in january-ish	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	bought bring online something like 10-20th by march.	[10:02]
Ukto	wiwthin the next 2~6 days	[10:02]
Ukto	that wont be true	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	okay	[10:02]
Ukto	although if I get my avalons in the next week, i will be stoked :P	[10:03]
Ukto	but I doubt it	[10:03]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: There is no evidence that is the case, nor is there any evidence from our perspective that MtGox themselves did anything less than they could have to prevent the account leaks. From what we know, it was either two hacks, one of them being a readout from a financial analyst who had privileged access, and the other being completely unknown, or one hack, being the financial analyst.	[10:03]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic it's a fact that customers had been reporting passwords being broken into which tux/gox blamed on customers, for weeks prior.	[10:03]
mircea_popescu	and the guy with the emails db claimed that it was mtgox poor practices (course... he's the thief)	[10:04]
midnightmagic	And we have no evidence that that is not the case. Also, many of those who complained publically disappeared and did not pursue the matter when confronted.	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	this is also true	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	in fact, afaik none did pursue the matter when confronted	[10:05]
midnightmagic	One of them did, but only on the forum, and did not seem at all concerned about losing $50k worth of bc.	[10:05]
midnightmagic	(that I'm aware of)	[10:05]
mircea_popescu	anyways. just taking the opportunity to compare notes.	[10:05]
midnightmagic	Point is, MtGox has been exceedingly ethical, especially when contrasted with real-world banks and other financial institutions.	[10:06]
mircea_popescu	Ukto re avalons, some deliveries have been popping up in the us	[10:06]
midnightmagic	Most of the inconsistencies we can see are just as likely to be MT's lack of perfect knowledge of what's going on, which of course I know of no people who are perfectly aware of their own systems.	[10:06]
midnightmagic	Yeah, Avalons are being delivered in California already	[10:06]
Ukto	yeah, but those are batch 1	[10:07]
Ukto	right?	[10:07]
midnightmagic	Correct.	[10:07]
Ukto	batch 2 shipping eta was mar 5 ~ april 5	[10:07]
midnightmagic	Batch #2, as far as I'm aware, hasn't even fully been order-filled.	[10:07]
Bowjob	Oh man.. BFL victims caught a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome	[10:07]
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mircea_popescu	Ukto batch 1 was like 200 units iirc. that's a total 12th or thereabouts.	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	this was supposedly ready on january.	[10:08]
Ukto	bach 1 was 300	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	asicminer, also ready in january, also 12 th, has slowly been bringing units online to about what, 5-7th now	[10:08]
Bowjob	well mp, their deadline was actually feb 28	[10:08]
Ukto	http://launch.avalon-asics.com/	[10:08]
Ukto	yes, as I said	[10:08]
Bowjob	the jan 20 was a "bonus"	[10:08]
Ukto	I know alot about AM that I cant discuss. :)	[10:09]
Ukto	just be ready to be surprised.	[10:09]
Bowjob	that never materialized	[10:09]
Ukto	technically all of batch 1 was supposed to be shipped by march 1st	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob ya well, keeping accurate accounting of all the weird communication people pour into the market out of noobishness and whatever other reasons is difficult.	[10:09]
Bowjob	yeah, they were 10 days late	[10:09]
midnightmagic	No, not all of it. Only a few dozen units.	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	let's just go with a very barebone summary i say	[10:09]
midnightmagic	And in China, a few users did in fact receive their units.	[10:10]
Bowjob	yifu said feb 28.. then he moved it to possible jan 20 deliver	[10:10]
Bowjob	he did deliver 2 on jan, but got shut down by the chinese	[10:10]
Bowjob	then resumed on march up to march 10,	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	anyway, it's very fortunate and convenient that 1. asics are delivered by two companies with roughly equal output	[10:10]
midnightmagic	Some users did get their units outside of jgarzik and the btc foundation.	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	and 2. that these are producing each less than about half the network	[10:10]
Bowjob	yeah there was this chinese dude that didnt tell the forums	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	safest scenario possible, it really surprised me.	[10:11]
Bowjob	until he got problems	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob there were some who did report privately. i knew of a few.	[10:11]
Bowjob	mhm	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	people are in the end allowed to keep their privacy.	[10:11]
Bowjob	so avalon did deliver, they are late for the rest though, since their deadline was by march 1st	[10:12]
Bowjob	theres this one dude at the forums offering $10000 for an avalon	[10:12]
Bowjob	hes lowballing	[10:12]
Bowjob	if bfl fails to deliver, batch 2 avalon will ship	[10:12]
BitHub	primeasic?	[10:12]
Bowjob	no, its just some random dude at the forums	[10:13]
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mircea_popescu	10k is lowballing ?!	[10:13]
Bowjob	offering to buy an avalon for $10000	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	they retailed for like 1300 neh ?	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 10/13	[10:13]
gribble	0.769230769231	[10:13]
Bowjob	lemme find the thread	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	this is a little more than what asicminer increased. so... he's about in the market atm.	[10:13]
Bowjob	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140519.0	[10:14]
Bowjob	is he?	[10:14]
Bowjob	lol	[10:14]
mircea_popescu	i wou;dn't pay 10k for one.	[10:16]
Chaang-Noi	i would odds are pay $10k for a working alalon that was right here right now.	[10:17]
Chaang-Noi	could make it back in 15 days	[10:17]
Chaang-Noi	at current rates, and bfl wont get there in that time...	[10:17]
Bowjob	when will bfl realistically ship?..	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	i would pay 1300 dollars within 60 days for a delivered and guaranteed asic.	[10:18]
Chaang-Noi	1.5 months is soonest i think	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	that's about it.	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	computer equipment is computer equpiment.	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	what i do with it is nobody's business, what the heck is this.	[10:18]
Bowjob	i mean, 200 BTC.. thats says no on bitbet	[10:18]
Bowjob	wtf is that	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	i wouldn't pay 10k for a computer just because i can make 10k on a computer in 15 days	[10:18]
BitHub	i'm intrested in that film stuff you were saying the other day mircea	[10:18]
BitHub	where you doing a commercial for mpex?	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	me ? no /	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	what film you mean ?	[10:19]
Chaang-Noi	not paying something for $10k when you could odds are get $50k from it in 3 months?	[10:19]
BitHub	you were going to film a renactment or osmething	[10:19]
BitHub	but canceled	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi nope. i pay by costs not by what seller judges "i might make"	[10:19]
Chaang-Noi	im all about 500%	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	that's none of his busioness.	[10:19]
Chaang-Noi	well, it was a buyer giving an offer	[10:19]
BitHub	do you like films?	[10:19]
Bowjob	mhm, i find it good news that the asics that were shipped took a week only	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	BitHub o, the gumpys. i never cancelled, the other party vanished.	[10:19]
Bowjob	considering its from china	[10:19]
Chaang-Noi	i doubt anyone would really sell one for only 10k	[10:20]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is so bubbly i swear.	[10:20]
Chaang-Noi	yeah	[10:20]
Bowjob	cant wait to get my hands on it. it even comes with gloves	[10:20]
Bowjob	lol	[10:20]
Chaang-Noi	i bet asicminer shares are going to bubble soon	[10:20]
Chaang-Noi	!ticker	[10:20]
assbot	I thought I told you not to touch me.	[10:20]
Chaang-Noi	lol	[10:20]
Chaang-Noi	;;ticker	[10:21]
Bowjob	damn chang, touching assbot	[10:21]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 44.40666, Best ask: 44.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08334, Last trade: 44.94000, 24 hour volume: 40002.15598561, 24 hour low: 42.41100, 24 hour high: 44.94000, 24 hour vwap: 43.69874	[10:21]
mircea_popescu	well, they got as high as the girl's low band.	[10:21]
mircea_popescu	maybe they get as high as her high	[10:21]
Bowjob	oh.. well as for the asic	[10:21]
Bowjob	thats considering you convert it to fiat	[10:21]
BitHub	ASICMINER	[10:21]
Chaang-Noi	mp i would see 1.5 really	[10:21]
Bowjob	which is very difficult for me to do	[10:21]
Bowjob	lol	[10:21]
BitHub	in all its glory	[10:21]
Chaang-Noi	cou7ld*	[10:21]
Bowjob	I wonder what people were thinking when they bought Avalon 1	[10:21]
Chaang-Noi	i almost bought one	[10:21]
Bowjob	josh said theyd deliver faster, and bfl were superior tech wise	[10:22]
Bowjob	.. then whats the point of avalon then	[10:22]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi possibly.	[10:22]
Bowjob	heck, yifu said avalon wont deliver first	[10:22]
Bowjob	.. did someone see through josh's lie?	[10:22]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob i think midnightmagic bought some, you can ask him	[10:22]
Bowjob	yeah midnight, if you're from batch 1	[10:23]
Bowjob	$44.50	[10:25]
Bowjob	lol	[10:25]
midnightmagic	Bowjob: What was I thinking for batch #1?	[10:26]
Bowjob	Yeah.. coz, back then BFL said they would deliver sooner	[10:26]
Bowjob	and they had better specs	[10:26]
Bowjob	so.. why would anyone buy from Avalon?	[10:26]
Bowjob	and yifu announced after bfl announced	[10:26]
midnightmagic	Diversity of hardware in the event of asic doomsday, ethics of ngzhang, BFL's past history of late delivery, and I've been mining since Dec '10.	[10:28]
midnightmagic	Heck, I was about to order one from cablepair before he went insane.	[10:28]
Bowjob	damn	[10:28]
Bowjob	mhm.. the whole thing was a minefild	[10:29]
Bowjob	field	[10:29]
Bowjob	2 scames 1 legit	[10:29]
midnightmagic	I'm fairly sure that electricity won't be the lower bound of price for some time. The first time was market reaction to the bubble crash, and lots of doofuses predicting the death of bitcoin.	[10:29]
midnightmagic	and yet it.. never.. quite.. dipped below electricity costs.	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic i'd guess electricity will never be the bound. fixed costs amortisation will always be larger from now on	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	take a while for a 60gh asic to cost 1.x k usd in electricity.	[10:30]
Bowjob	heck, if this becomes profitable for me I'll rent a warehouse	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	by then probably better units need to be bought. and so...	[10:30]
midnightmagic	well growth is fairly significant right now	[10:30]
Bowjob	and avalon users will get credit for a trade in, yeah?	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	the thing is before a large portion of mining cost was hidden (as "free" expertise)	[10:31]
midnightmagic	Bowjob: The amusing part is, people who do that simply can't compete with the long tail of people doing for "free" in their hobby time and getting the cheap tier of residential electrical costs. :)	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	since now all that is being paid for, people get a much better idea of their actual costs.	[10:31]
midnightmagic	Bowjob: Avalon customers are getting credit for Icarus trade-in and .. the other one. Lancelot.	[10:31]
Bowjob	yeah	[10:31]
Bowjob	in the future	[10:31]
Bowjob	Trade in Avalon 1 for something else	[10:31]
midnightmagic	Bowjob: There is no indication that will happen.	[10:32]
midnightmagic	FPGA have a use outside of bitcoin.	[10:32]
midnightmagic	Avalon 1? Not so much.	[10:32]
Bowjob	oh well.. decades from now, it will be a collector's item	[10:33]
Bowjob	heh	[10:33]
midnightmagic	"This thing made a whole bunch of money and then suddenly became completely useless!"	[10:33]
Bowjob	"It produced 7 BTC in its heyday"	[10:33]
Bowjob	Damn	[10:33]
Bowjob	7 BTC/Day	[10:34]
Bowjob	lol	[10:34]
midnightmagic	"What is it?" "Don't know, every time we plug it in it keeps trying to connect to a weird IP address and port.."	[10:34]
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midnightmagic	I'll tell you one thing. I am SO looking forward to the near-future day when I can shut all my g-d miners right the hell off.	[10:34]
Bowjob	are you moving to LTC?	[10:35]
Bowjob	wait nvm	[10:35]
midnightmagic	I mean my GPU and FPGA. I've been itching to do some FPGA development for some time now.	[10:35]
midnightmagic	I don't even bother RMA'ing my GPU anymore. Total waste of time.	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	heh	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	the first gpu miner...	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	o boy. what a bomb	[10:36]
midnightmagic	ArtForz was pretty badass..	[10:36]
*	midnightmagic is fanboy of Art.	[10:37]
Bowjob	Is it viable to live off of BTC	[10:38]
Bowjob	just by mining?	[10:38]
Bowjob	It seems a crazy idea to me.. that might just work	[10:38]
Bowjob	>_>	[10:38]
Chaang-Noi	i was told he has 60,000 btc locked in his offline never spend coins	[10:39]
Chaang-Noi	;;calc 60000x44.5	[10:40]
gribble	Error: invalid syntax (, line 1)	[10:40]
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midnightmagic	He reported having 60,000 bitcoind not in his never-spend, but in his "don't sell right now" 20% holdback from mining profits.	[10:45]
midnightmagic	He mined, and sold 80%, and kept 20%.	[10:45]
midnightmagic	;;calc 60000*45	[10:45]
gribble	2700000	[10:45]
midnightmagic	That was before he mined for another bunch of months and then started selling his designs to unknown third parties.	[10:46]
midnightmagic	mrb_ came in one time and started talking about something he'd heard existed: a preimage-like attack on the hashing algo which allowed a 2x speedup algorithmically, to any miner implementing it.	[10:48]
midnightmagic	it would be pretty awesome if that were real.	[10:50]
mircea_popescu	how would it be awesome	[10:51]
midnightmagic	it would be awesome because FPGA would kill asic then.	[10:53]
mircea_popescu	fpga needs a lot more than 2x to stay competitive.	[10:54]
midnightmagic	nah it doesn't. ;-)	[10:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]	[11:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [+]	[11:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00549999 = 5.5 BTC [-]	[11:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.0055 = 3.575 BTC [+]	[11:08]
Chaang-Noi	.9 go asicminer :)	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	!ticker btctc asicminer-pt	[11:09]
assbot	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.65923 / 0.9 (449 shares, 296 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.65303 / 0.9 (1046 shares, 683.1 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.65303 / 0.9 (1046 shares, 683.1 BTC)	[11:09]
BitHub	.9 hey	[11:09]
mircea_popescu	still low volume.	[11:09]
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BitHub	i might cash out	[11:09]
BitHub	at 1	[11:09]
Chaang-Noi	i expect this weeks or next weeks dividend to be awesome, and thus make more demand	[11:10]
BitHub	whens teh next one due?	[11:10]
zefir	Goat, people seem to expect ASICMINER to continue paying 2 cents dividends per week for a year, which is a bit of too much confidence imho	[11:10]
Chaang-Noi	zefir i think they can hold on average 10% of the network for 2 years	[11:11]
zefir	if they could, 0.9 is fair. still speculative	[11:12]
Chaang-Noi	and honestly bfl is 1.5 months away at best i think, if we get to 12 th and then 60 th, we will be killing it:)	[11:12]
BitHub	crazy to pay those prices for asicminer	[11:12]
mircea_popescu	zefir well, finance is speculative.	[11:12]
mircea_popescu	bfl is never delivering anything.	[11:12]
zefir	not right, my BFLS are the most stable mining devices i had so far	[11:12]
Chaang-Noi	if bfl did fail on the chips it would be awesome for asicminer, we would have 50% not 10% of the network	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	zefir http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	just going by that	[11:13]
BitHub	is there going to be a new primeasic thing?	[11:13]
BitHub	i need to buy one hey	[11:13]
zefir	expect there to be more competitors than BFL in July	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi about one third asicminer, one third avalon, one third old network + others	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	is the best reasonable expectation.	[11:14]
mircea_popescu	zefir for sure.	[11:14]
mircea_popescu	the actual asic producer has not yet been born i would guess.	[11:14]
BitHub	i'm ready to buy now	[11:14]
BitHub	can i buy anything?	[11:14]
Chaang-Noi	even if bfl does ship, first batch is only 25 th right? avalon is less?	[11:14]
mircea_popescu	avalon has about 10-20th being delivered atm and making another what, 20-50	[11:15]
zefir	0.9 is tempting for a quick buck i must say. but if bitcoin as a whole takes of (like is currently doing) long term, holding some asicminer could be your retirement ;)	[11:15]
mircea_popescu	asicminer has a 10ish being delivered and making another 20-50	[11:15]
mircea_popescu	they're really very equal.	[11:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 0.9 = 18.9 BTC [+]	[11:15]
Chaang-Noi	yeah zefir, i bought back much of what i sold around .5 to .6	[11:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.975 = 19.5 BTC [+]	[11:16]
Chaang-Noi	lol	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	lol what a strategy	[11:16]
zefir	Goat, you're in the board again?	[11:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1 = 25 BTC [+]	[11:16]
zefir	this is insane!	[11:16]
Chaang-Noi	zefir saldy im still short	[11:16]
BitHub	wow	[11:16]
zefir	i have the remaining shares for you. 1BTC each ;)	[11:16]
BitHub	anyone want to buy 50 for 2btc?	[11:17]
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Chaang-Noi	zefir that was my shares that just got sold at 1 btc	[11:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.0057 = 2.85 BTC [+]	[11:17]
zefir	;) congrats!	[11:17]
Chaang-Noi	thanks	[11:18]
Chaang-Noi	i think we could go higher, but i can part with 25 :)	[11:18]
BitHub	let me know when it gets to 1.5 or 2 - i'm out then.	[11:18]
zefir	Goat, how much coins do i need in hand to retire in Thailand?	[11:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.21735385 = 217.3539 BTC [-]	[11:19]
Bowjob	we're about to ram $45 per coin	[11:19]
BitHub	1000bat	[11:19]
Chaang-Noi	zefir i have a wife and a kid, very nice house, and everything, i live very well here on $15,000 a year	[11:19]
BitHub	nice	[11:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.19526866 = 195.2687 BTC [-]	[11:19]
Chaang-Noi	if you did $30k a year you would really live it up	[11:20]
Bowjob	$15,000.. thats what I earned 2 years ago as a cashier	[11:20]
Bowjob	in 6 months btw	[11:20]
Bowjob	lol	[11:20]
Bowjob	k, 7 actually	[11:20]
Chaang-Noi	pay is lower here	[11:20]
zefir	ok, so like 10k coins and i'm done. that is 1.5BTC per ASICMINER and you see me there ;)	[11:20]
Chaang-Noi	average wage here is $200 a month	[11:20]
BitHub	nice zefir	[11:20]
Bowjob	so around 4 bitcoins then	[11:20]
BitHub	i might do the same and go to phils	[11:20]
Bowjob	200 bucks a month	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	i've done it already. retirement is boring as shit.	[11:21]
Bowjob	thats what i spend on a nice meal in vancouver	[11:21]
Chaang-Noi	costs are lower here	[11:21]
BitHub	whatever mircea lul	[11:21]
Bowjob	woudlnt it be grand if i make money here	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	srsly.	[11:21]
zefir	this is too easy, there must be some hook in there	[11:21]
Chaang-Noi	my 3 bed room house with garden and all that is only $160 a month rent	[11:21]
Bowjob	then spend it in some 3rd world country	[11:21]
Bowjob	lol	[11:21]
BitHub	ya	[11:21]
Bowjob	why dont u just buy it	[11:21]
BitHub	that's what i would do if i was bored	[11:21]
BitHub	help others	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	i am.	[11:22]
Chaang-Noi	zefir hook?	[11:22]
BitHub	then you cant get that bored	[11:22]
BitHub	:)	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	well atm im not bored, all with mpex and shit.	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	but a few years ago it was major yawn time.	[11:22]
BitHub	you just dont know how to have fun with your money	[11:22]
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toffoo	how did you retire the first time?	[11:23]
zefir	Goat, it can't be that easy. but well, my problem is my wife will not follow to Thailand, so i'm out for now :(	[11:23]
BitHub	you can get about 10 wives in thailand	[11:23]
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BitHub	her lost	[11:23]
Chaang-Noi	ahh zefir i got a thai wife, thats the smart way to do it:)	[11:23]
zefir	maybe, but not the one wife you get used to ;)	[11:23]
BitHub	doesn't that get boring?	[11:23]
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BitHub	like watching the same movie over and over and over again every day?	[11:24]
zefir	you mean the only one wife?	[11:24]
Chaang-Noi	bithub is right, you can have more than one here, in thai they even have words for ranking them	[11:24]
BitHub	chaaang i'm thinking	[11:24]
BitHub	if i send you some btc	[11:24]
zefir	no, can't complain. it is a give and take - she also has to watch the same tv show	[11:24]
BitHub	can you jsut buy thai women for me and put them all in a house?	[11:24]
mircea_popescu	toffoo what do you mean how ?	[11:24]
BitHub	i want a stable	[11:24]
toffoo	well i imagine you'll retire a second time from mpex someday soon,	[11:25]
BitHub	highly unethical	[11:25]
BitHub	hehe	[11:25]
Chaang-Noi	in thailand you can only rent thai women, however you can buy women from outher countries	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	zefir BitHub i guess there's about 20 years keeping you apart.	[11:25]
toffoo	just curious how you did it the first time .. before bitcoin	[11:25]
zefir	i'm 40	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	toffoo i don't think it'll be too soon.	[11:25]
BitHub	how old are you mate? :)	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	toffoo i sold everythign and went to costa rica, basically.	[11:25]
toffoo	but went back?	[11:26]
BitHub	heh i heard that's the best place to setup a company	[11:26]
toffoo	too boring there?	[11:26]
BitHub	is that why you went to costa?	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	well eventually you have enough of playing poker with aging american expats	[11:26]
BitHub	tax breaks	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	the rum was good, the aguacate nice, the mango fantastic an so on	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	but after a while retirement becomes unbearable.	[11:26]
toffoo	missing the good life back in romania?	[11:27]
BitHub	because you cant cash out a million dollars worth of btc?	[11:27]
mircea_popescu	toffoo hehe, romania of the 90s was... exciting.	[11:27]
BitHub	i don't get it mircea	[11:27]
mircea_popescu	BitHub what's that ?	[11:27]
BitHub	how you can be bored	[11:28]
BitHub	i'm bored but i'm poor	[11:28]
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mircea_popescu	cause how bored you are depends on what you're doing not on how rich you are.	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	heck, i know plenty of bored rich people.	[11:28]
BitHub	its all about the numbers baby	[11:28]
BitHub	if you're rich and bored you don't deserve to have money	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	what'd you do ?	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	there's only so much flan a person can eat, to quote one of the recent billionaires.	[11:29]
BitHub	stayed poor	[11:29]
BitHub	haha	[11:29]
BitHub	flange	[11:29]
BitHub	hmm what would i do	[11:30]
BitHub	well first step i would look at all the people in my life, family and really close friends and solve all their money problems	[11:30]
BitHub	that's fun	[11:31]
mircea_popescu	that's stupid.	[11:31]
mircea_popescu	within a coupla years they'll have worse money problems.	[11:31]
BitHub	but i solved them	[11:31]
mircea_popescu	there's a reason they have them now, and that reason ain't the aliens.	[11:31]
BitHub	nah they wont they	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	you can't solve people's problems for them.	[11:32]
BitHub	'll be sweet	[11:32]
BitHub	that's true, good thing i've got no friends so i would just help my family	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	mkay, so that's murky. what else ?	[11:33]
BitHub	i'm pretty sure i would be dead within a month, i would just go to psycho with the money	[11:33]
BitHub	driving pass people throwing wads of cash at them	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	ya well, that's the thing. takes a lot of brains to be rich and bored in the end.	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	most dumbasses that win the lottery end up dead / in jail / poor again	[11:34]
BitHub	i guess its boring when you're not just burning through it without caring	[11:34]
BitHub	that's when its really fun	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	no, that's when it's really obvious how empty/pointless/mindless you really are.	[11:34]
BitHub	not really, sometimes just dont care	[11:35]
BitHub	um what else, probably hire 100 social media trolls and have them in a office and just kick back and watch them troll certain celebs or public figures	[11:37]
BitHub	actually mircea i would just be making movies	[11:38]
BitHub	full time	[11:38]
BitHub	that would be really fun to me	[11:39]
mircea_popescu	that may work yea	[11:39]
mircea_popescu	but it is not retirement.	[11:39]
BitHub	ahh okey hmm retirement lets see, all you can do is just travel the world hey getting into adventures, meeting random girls	[11:40]
BitHub	definitly got to check out alot more countries in my time :)	[11:41]
mircea_popescu	yeah, tghat may be fun	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	but after a while it gets utterly boring.	[11:42]
BitHub	how old are you, if you dont mind me asking?	[11:43]
Bowjob	mentlegen, we hit $45 once again	[11:43]
Bowjob	now where is that troll who said btc top was $24 dollars	[11:43]
Bowjob	lol	[11:43]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[11:43]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 45.29000, Best ask: 45.46212, Bid-ask spread: 0.17212, Last trade: 45.46212, 24 hour volume: 42365.65870584, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.84294	[11:43]
BitHub	nice i want to see 50 after weekend tho	[11:44]
mircea_popescu	funny, calls sold earlier lol	[11:44]
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Bowjob	i just a fucking house in vancouver	[11:45]
Bowjob	geez	[11:45]
Bowjob	i thought that was the whole point of life in vancouver. be the landowner master race	[11:45]
Bowjob	so that you can charge rent on the basement, get the basement to pay for the mortgage	[11:45]
Bowjob	then watch hockey	[11:45]
Bowjob	lol	[11:45]
Bowjob	thats the canadian dream	[11:46]
mircea_popescu	heh	[11:46]
Bowjob	or vancouver dream.	[11:46]
Bowjob	everyone here is crazy about houses	[11:46]
Bowjob	my uncle owns 3, he gets about 8k a month on his houses	[11:46]
Bowjob	for rent	[11:46]
Bowjob	i didnt tell him about bitcoins.. hes too rich already	[11:46]
Bowjob	heh	[11:46]
Anduck	you should	[11:48]
Anduck	(make him buy like, 200k usd worth of btc?"	[11:48]
Anduck	xD	[11:48]
Bowjob	lol	[11:48]
Anduck	then slowwly sell it back and make negative profit	[11:48]
Bowjob	nah, hes a batshit religious person.. conservative	[11:48]
Bowjob	he wont touch btc anyway	[11:48]
Anduck	ok	[11:49]
Bowjob	i feel bad for his kid	[11:49]
Anduck	well	[11:49]
Bowjob	his kid is like 18 now, cant go out	[11:49]
Anduck	what does that have to do with bitcoin?	[11:49]
Anduck	if he's religious batshit person	[11:49]
Anduck	he might still like btc xD	[11:49]
Anduck	batshit is a nice term, +1	[11:49]
Bowjob	i doubt it lol	[11:49]
Anduck	hmm	[11:50]
Anduck	well tell his kid about it	[11:50]
Anduck	and shake his hed	[11:50]
Bowjob	when we arrived in canada	[11:50]
Anduck	head*	[11:50]
Bowjob	.. he gave us free rent	[11:50]
Bowjob	.. but..	[11:50]
Bowjob	when we told him, we're not converting to your religion	[11:50]
Bowjob	he started charging us rent	[11:50]
Bowjob	lol	[11:50]
Anduck	=)	[11:50]
Anduck	whatta douche	[11:50]
Bowjob	im like. lol	[11:50]
Anduck	you know what	[11:50]
Anduck	i would've laugh at him	[11:50]
Anduck	:D	[11:51]
Bowjob	its not really him tho	[11:51]
Bowjob	its his wife	[11:51]
Bowjob	thats the boss	[11:51]
Anduck	whats his religion btc	[11:51]
Anduck	btw*	[11:51]
Anduck	?	[11:51]
Bowjob	protestant or something	[11:51]
Anduck	wut	[11:51]
Bowjob	thinks everyone will go to hell	[11:51]
Bowjob	protestant.. its like a branch of christianity	[11:52]
Bowjob	kinda like how catholic is bitcoin, then a protestant would be a fork of it	[11:52]
Bowjob	lol	[11:52]
Anduck	good it wasnt this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology	[11:52]
Anduck	yeah	[11:52]
Bowjob	nah. hes not that batshit	[11:52]
Anduck	:D	[11:53]
Anduck	in finland there's 2 places where they recruit for that thing	[11:53]
Anduck	so, me and my friend once went there	[11:53]
Bowjob	theres one in vancouver too	[11:53]
Bowjob	not going in there. lol	[11:53]
Anduck	made some kind of test	[11:53]
Anduck	then they wanted us to be in separate rooms	[11:53]
Anduck	so they could turn ur individually to the scientology	[11:53]
Anduck	well, we ain't stupid so.. xD	[11:54]
Bowjob	they killed this chick	[11:54]
Anduck	didnt take much time to see they're scientologists	[11:54]
Bowjob	i forgot her name	[11:54]
Bowjob	lisa or something..	[11:54]
Bowjob	in 1996	[11:54]
Bowjob	lisa mcpherson	[11:54]
Bowjob	there we go	[11:54]
Anduck	why	[11:54]
Bowjob	starved her to death	[11:54]
Anduck	ok	[11:54]
Anduck	hmm	[11:54]
Bowjob	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lisa_McPherson	[11:54]
Bowjob	okay, 1995. im off	[11:54]
Anduck	btw, we went to that scientology recruiment place cuz we were handed a note in the city	[11:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.00999 = 0.999 BTC [+]	[11:58]
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mircea_popescu	ehh what's this, ian bakewell default ?	[12:03]
Bowjob	Mhm.. he disappeared	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	ouch	[12:04]
Bowjob	Damn, and to think I thought I was gonna send him some BTC	[12:04]
Bowjob	I cleared a land mine. heh	[12:04]
Bowjob	He said he should have no problem paying unless BTC hits $40/BTC	[12:05]
mircea_popescu	lol ok.	[12:05]
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Bowjob	"Short BTC600 @ $34.50 Short 40,000 S.DICE @ .0062 Cover date: May 17 2013 \| Before 12Noon MST"	[12:07]
Bowjob	According to Ian's signature	[12:07]
Bowjob	he's gonna have a bad time	[12:07]
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Bowjob	"I should have no problem repaying this as long as BTC stays bellow $41.66 ... if it goes above we would need to work something out for a bit more time to repay."	[12:09]
Bowjob	Tsk tsk tsk	[12:09]
Chaang-Noi	;;ticker	[12:09]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 45.86278, Best ask: 45.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03722, Last trade: 45.90000, 24 hour volume: 45521.41888267, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 45.90000, 24 hour vwap: 43.97923	[12:09]
Bowjob	I lent some $100 worth of BTC back in january for 3 weeks	[12:09]
Bowjob	that was some agonizing days	[12:09]
Bowjob	I didn't know if the guy was a scammer or not	[12:09]
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Bowjob	.. i am not willing to put myself through that again	[12:09]
Bowjob	lol	[12:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.90144085 = 901.4409 BTC [-]	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[12:11]
Bowjob	lending out to someone with btc is similar to gambling imo	[12:12]
Bowjob	just put it thru dice, at least its faster	[12:12]
Bowjob	lol	[12:12]
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mircea_popescu	with dice it's provably fair.	[12:13]
Bowjob	I told an acquiantance about BTC when they were 17 dollars, they were on the fence about it. They wanted to buy at 28 dollars, but got scared when the price dropped to $20	[12:16]
Bowjob	now that its $45.. they want to buy again	[12:16]
Bowjob	but never follow through	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	how it works.	[12:16]
Bowjob	I told him hey, I think BTC will go up. I've put a bit of fiat in it to show my conviction	[12:17]
Bowjob	if BTC goes up, they say.. it's a fucking bubble! if BTC goes down.. "It's dying/fad/crash"	[12:18]
Bowjob	hilarious	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	yup	[12:19]
Bowjob	I told him I'll sell him $100 worth for 2 BTC. They wanted 5. They could have gotten 5+ from me back in Jan	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	it recovered nicely after the correction 2 days ago	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	indeed a bear trap	[12:19]
Bowjob	I'm looking forward to the day that that guy still hasn't bought a coin where BTC reaches $1000	[12:20]
Bowjob	I'll be like, yeah I'll sell you $500 worth for 0.5 BTC, just remember it could go down, ect	[12:20]
Bowjob	gonna be fun.	[12:20]
mircea_popescu	haha that's a plan.	[12:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.90009169 = 900.0917 BTC [-]	[12:21]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell namworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87358.60	[12:22]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[12:22]
Bowjob	it sucked for me canadianbitcoins sold at $55 dollars when BTC dropped to $33	[12:25]
Bowjob	pretty smart move	[12:25]
Bowjob	I would have dumped more fiat into it	[12:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 375 @ 0.89918038 = 337.1926 BTC [-]	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m 750	[12:31]
assbot	I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P750	[12:31]
assbot	The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m P750t	[12:32]
assbot	Your actions are useless.	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	:(	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P750T	[12:32]
assbot	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.89918038 / 0.90051586 / 0.90144085 (2375 shares, 2,138.73 BTC), 7D: 0.85433966 / 0.9786482 / 1.12260046 (23750 shares, 23,242.89 BTC), 30D: 0.85433966 / 1.06533167 / 1.53153505 (28750 shares, 30,628.29 BTC)	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	lol this put	[12:32]
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Chaang-Noi	;;asks 46	[12:43]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 46.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds	[12:43]
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Chaang-Noi	;;ticker	[12:43]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 46.50000, Best ask: 46.53000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 46.53000, 24 hour volume: 47202.58375913, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 46.53000, 24 hour vwap: 44.11301	[12:43]
Chaang-Noi	well shit	[12:43]
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Chaang-Noi	;;asks 49.1	[12:44]
gribble	There are currently 26201.882 bitcoins offered at or under 49.1 USD, worth 1266194.78506 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 36.3364 seconds	[12:44]
Bowjob	chang	[12:44]
Bowjob	check the price real time at coinlab	[12:44]
Bowjob	its entertaining	[12:44]
Bowjob	lol	[12:44]
Chaang-Noi	interesting, auto refreshes?	[12:45]
Chaang-Noi	guess so damn	[12:45]
Bowjob	yah	[12:46]
Bowjob	you watching?	[12:46]
Bowjob	46.80	[12:46]
Bowjob	im okay with this	[12:46]
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Chaang-Noi	i guess we are going to keep on trucking up	[12:46]
Bowjob	imo just drive the price up and dont sell	[12:47]
Bowjob	use BTC for transactions	[12:47]
Bowjob	.. that ends up being win win	[12:47]
Bowjob	as opposed to lose lose	[12:47]
Bowjob	where the seller gets fiat and the BTC value goes down	[12:47]
Bowjob	we're about to break 47	[12:47]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[12:48]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 46.64600, Best ask: 46.74600, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 46.64600, 24 hour volume: 48033.54388684, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 46.99000, 24 hour vwap: 44.16232	[12:48]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 47	[12:48]
gribble	There are currently 1303.7427 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 61254.5594943 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds	[12:48]
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Bowjob	mhm, i see lots of resistance before 50	[12:56]
Bowjob	i see little fiat	[12:56]
Bowjob	we need moe support	[12:57]
Bowjob	sell off	[13:01]
Bowjob	hah	[13:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2201 BTC [-]	[13:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.22003 BTC [-]	[13:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-]	[13:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.22 = 2.2 BTC [-]	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	it's the weekend	[13:09]
Chaang-Noi	yeah $45 is still pretty epic	[13:15]
Bowjob	"still"?	[13:17]
Bowjob	Id stay breaking $32 barrier was epic!	[13:18]
Anduck	btw..	[13:19]
Anduck	it's funny mp has rated gigavps -10 and pirateat40 -1	[13:19]
Anduck	so huh, whats worse, running a ponzi or pt to ponzi?	[13:20]
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Bowjob	and the dump continues	[13:24]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[13:24]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 45.27000, Best ask: 45.28000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 45.26000, 24 hour volume: 49103.52015343, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 46.99000, 24 hour vwap: 44.22567	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	Anduck i rated pirate before his scam went bust	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	and then didn't want to update the rating out of vanity	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	i like being the first one with the neg.	[13:25]
Anduck	k	[13:25]
Bowjob	coinlab should update their logo with the recent correction	[13:30]
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*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[22:28]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ \|\| CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/ - down atm - private instances around - also see !help	[22:28]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Sat Mar 9 03:37:56 2013	[22:28]
MJR_	I read it	[22:28]
kakobrekla	maybe mircea_popescu has some updates	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	hi all.	[22:28]
MJR_	Hey	[22:29]
kakobrekla	21:28.00 ( MJR_ ) Mp still having trouble?	[22:29]
kakobrekla	21:28.10 ( kakobrekla ) half way, see topic	[22:29]
kakobrekla	21:28.27 . mircea_popescu ( ~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu ) joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	MJR_ trade is atm going on through the irc bots.	[22:29]
MJR_	Cool	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	this is actually fully functional, if a little inconvenient still	[22:29]
MJR_	Noticed S.DICE rebounded a little bit	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	until someone makes a pympex equivalent	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[22:30]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu:	[22:30]
kakobrekla	21:22.48 ( kakobrekla ) "Only Satoshi the Bitcoin Cyber-Christ is going to save us." -Max Keiser	[22:30]
MJR_	Was wondering about an mpex.onion	[22:30]
kakobrekla	21:22.48 ( kakobrekla ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_t39jCXXIrY	[22:30]
MJR_	I think that guy is on meth before every show	[22:30]
Ukto	MJR_: PM	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	MJR_ i am having a few set up.	[22:30]
MJR_	Cool	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	the thing is,	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	tor network may not be solid enough to cope	[22:31]
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MJR_	Yeah I was worried about that	[22:32]
Namworld	How do I encrypt with MPEx's public key?	[22:32]
MJR_	I am trying out a new irc client	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	Namworld gpg --encrypt --armor -r F1B69921	[22:33]
Namworld	Ah, thanks. I keep forgetting how to write the command.	[22:33]
Namworld	I can't seem to find a good website that lists commands and common operations	[22:34]
kakobrekla	make one	[22:38]
pigeons	man2htm	[22:41]
kakobrekla	:D	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	totally.	[22:41]
jborkl_	!Ticker mpex s.dice	[22:45]
kakobrekla	!ticker mpex s.dice	[22:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00067638 BTC [-]	[22:46]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00550022 / 0.005884 (1651 shares, 9.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00548202 / 0.006225 (503030 shares, 2,757.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0061622 / 0.0069 (3739840 shares, 23,045.67 BTC)	[22:46]
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mircea_popescu	caps not allowed on irc	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the evolution of s.dice is beyond funny,	[22:46]
MJR_	Yes	[22:46]
Anduck	mircea_popescu: porn not allowed on blog	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	1. price collapse pre dividends ; 2. short rebound post dividends ; further rebound while mpex is beinh ddosed	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	if this is not contrary to what you'd expect i dunno what is	[22:46]
MJR_	01f424	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	Anduck who told you that ?!	[22:47]
Anduck	it's the will of internet gods	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	im with the internet goddesses, sorry.	[22:47]
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MJR_	Lol, I thought we were the Internet gods	[22:48]
Anduck	LOL guys been trolled again	[22:48]
Anduck	srs, no. you cant hang out with them.	[22:48]
Anduck	dunno bout' dem goddesses	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	it shows.	[22:48]
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MJR_	mircea_popescu: Can you see the symbol between the quotes? "⚡"	[22:49]
mircea_popescu	yea	[22:50]
MJR_	Cool	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	why ?	[22:50]
MJR_	Was not sure if other symbols would be able to be seen	[22:50]
MJR_	I suppose it depends on the client	[22:51]
jborkl	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017561/	[22:51]
assbot	Processing.	[22:51]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017563/plain/	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150818.0 ahaha dude the forum's so funny	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	$vwap	[22:51]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/605WGNKB	[22:51]
dub	.9 for AM eh	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	dub girl said .75 to 1.5	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	am dully follows.	[22:53]
dub	hmm, could be my new truck	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell vampirebb the mpex inbound address will be linked to most mpex withdrawals. a user can withdraw to an arbitrary address of his choice.	[22:54]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[22:54]
jborkl	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017564/	[22:54]
assbot	Processing.	[22:54]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017566/plain/	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	jborkl you're doing something wrong because people have been trading ok on this system	[22:54]
jborkl	I am on my phone trying to get android to work	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	are you cleanly doing your encoding ? is your key correct ? (siometimes gpg defaults to wrong key, use a ! at the end of your keyid to force)	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150818.0 lol these people.	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1604192#msg1604192 friedcat speaks	[22:58]
FabianB_	mircea_popescu: is the mpex FAQ somewhere available in a pastie or can it be included in an mpex client?	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	FabianB_ 1 sec	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	http://pastebin.com/6HuinLvf	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	if you wish to include a local copy in a bundle you distribute, such as a client or anything	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	i want you to commit that all new versions will include a faq current at the time of their release.	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	that's pretty much the only condition.	[23:01]
MJR_	It should be complete as well	[23:03]
FabianB_	ok, in case i release my client to the public i'll include it in all releases; in case i don't maintain it anymore i'll make a release with FAQ removed with just a link to then current mpex site	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	FabianB_ if you don't maintain it anymore you're not in breach.	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	the only thing is to not ship client august 11th with faq from june 3rd	[23:04]
MJR_	If you neglect to keep the smoky dragon award	[23:04]
FabianB_	ok, that won't be a problem then	[23:04]
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mircea_popescu	you can do all languages available or pick one	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	but be a sport and don't pick "some".	[23:05]
FabianB_	heh, yeah, just thought of the english one	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	works.	[23:07]
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FabianB_	dunno if i like to include chinese and persian as long as the clients documentation itself is just english	[23:08]
MJR_	Hmmm I think I am going to enter the WOT today	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	sure, just one language is ok	[23:08]
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mircea_popescu	If we get the 60TH/s online (conservative) in late April, and the hashrate of the full network from that time is 200TH/s which linearly increases to 1,000TH/s in late December. (200+1000)/2 = 600. So we will have 10% in average of the full network from late April to late December. That translates to about 88,000 Bitcoins total mined. That is 0.22BTC/share of gross income in eight months.	[23:13]
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mircea_popescu	so where's the "you get your money back in 8 months therefore asicminer is worth like .15" talk ?	[23:13]
thestringpuller	lol	[23:13]
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MJR_	What do you think it's worth?	[23:19]
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mircea_popescu	worth ? about .05 - .1	[23:20]
benkay	!help	[23:20]
assbot	List of commands:	[23:20]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[23:20]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	that has no bearing however, idiots are in full mania mode, so,	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	you'll be able to sell up to 10x-100x that	[23:21]
jborkl	!mp help	[23:22]
assbot	Please use http://dpaste.com/	[23:22]
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mircea_popescu	!help mp	[23:22]
assbot	List of commands:	[23:22]
jborkl	Thanks assbot	[23:22]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[23:22]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[23:22]
MJR_	yeah, I think understanding net present value may be beyond some members of the bitcoin community	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla : can you make assbot ticker identifier to be hungry ?	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	such as !ticker m C600T	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	MJR_ what makes me very glad & happy is this :	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	!ticker btct asicminer-pt	[23:23]
assbot	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.679 / 0.90043 / 1 (167 shares, 150.4 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC)	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	the fact that the bitcoindiots are reduced to < 1k btc disposable income is indeed good news.	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	one year ago this would have been two degrees of magnitude larger if not more.	[23:24]
jborkl	Mircea, are the orders formatted the same in!mp	[23:24]
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mircea_popescu	jborkl the same aswhat ?	[23:24]
benkay	!mp	[23:24]
assbot	Please use http://dpaste.com/	[23:24]
jborkl	BUY\|S.DICE...	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	yup	[23:25]
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jborkl	Ok thanks	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	you makr you order, you sign it, then you encrypt it, then you paste that	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	then you feed the bots	[23:25]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu ?	[23:25]
kakobrekla	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C610N	[23:25]
assbot	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m C610N	[23:25]
assbot	Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?	[23:25]
kakobrekla	hm	[23:25]
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mircea_popescu	ghe doesn't find that one cause it hasn't traded	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	but since p750n is sufficient identification	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	why doesn't he find it ?	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m P750T	[23:26]
assbot	Quest for vision is a great blessing.	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P750T	[23:26]
kakobrekla	the key is O.BTCUSD.C610N	[23:26]
assbot	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.89918038 / 0.90051586 / 0.90144085 (2375 shares, 2,138.73 BTC), 7D: 0.85433966 / 0.9786482 / 1.12260046 (23750 shares, 23,242.89 BTC), 30D: 0.85433966 / 1.06533167 / 1.53153505 (28750 shares, 30,628.29 BTC)	[23:26]
kakobrekla	in the depth	[23:26]
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mircea_popescu	basically, it should take the provided string, see how many of the available mpsics regex-match it	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	if 1 then report on that. if 0 or >1 then say sorry.	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	and since we're talking about this, would it be possible to have a !depth	[23:29]
mircea_popescu	which reports say 6 or 8 items either side from midmarket ?	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	like : !depth blabla	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	10x.5 100x.4 13x.22 .21 x 19 .20x150	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	etc	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	with a \| down te middle.	[23:30]
MJR_	!ticker	[23:31]
assbot	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.	[23:31]
MJR_	$sdice	[23:32]
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jborkl	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017589/	[23:32]
assbot	Processing.	[23:32]
assbot	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017591/plain/	[23:32]
jborkl	Dammit	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	jborkl	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	mind doing one pass not off the phone ?	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	to make sure your process works ?	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	otherwise if you're trying to implement somethingthat doesn't work you'll kill yourself	[23:33]
kakobrekla	it works	[23:33]
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mircea_popescu	a ok nm then	[23:33]
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MJR_	!help	[23:33]
assbot	List of commands:	[23:33]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[23:33]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[23:33]
MJR_	is gribble here?	[23:34]
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jborkl	Let me try it off normal desktop	[23:35]
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kakobrekla	!ticker m P750T	[23:36]
assbot	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.89918038 / 0.90051586 / 0.90144085 (2375 shares, 2,138.73 BTC), 7D: 0.85433966 / 0.9786482 / 1.12260046 (23750 shares, 23,242.89 BTC), 30D: 0.85433966 / 1.06533167 / 1.53153505 (28750 shares, 30,628.29 BTC)	[23:36]
kakobrekla	if($ticker[0] == "P" \|\| $ticker[0] == "C" ){	[23:36]
kakobrekla	$ticker = "O.BTCUSD.".$ticker;	[23:36]
kakobrekla	}	[23:36]
kakobrekla	:p	[23:36]
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MJR_	!ticker s.dice	[23:37]
assbot	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.	[23:37]
kakobrekla	!ticker m s.dice	[23:38]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00550022 / 0.005884 (1651 shares, 9.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00548202 / 0.006225 (503030 shares, 2,757.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0061622 / 0.0069 (3739840 shares, 23,045.67 BTC)	[23:38]
MJR_	aha	[23:38]
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kakobrekla	apparently being bitcoin pr is the new hype thing	[23:49]
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deadweasel	;;ticker	[23:50]
kakobrekla	got hit with "the bitcoin catalog", "the bitcoin documentary" and "bitcoin pr buzz" in like one day	[23:50]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 46.47999, Best ask: 46.54400, Bid-ask spread: 0.06401, Last trade: 46.54400, 24 hour volume: 44070.26922702, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 46.99000, 24 hour vwap: 45.27764	[23:50]
MJR_	also the bitcoin hedge fund	[23:51]
deadweasel	;;bc,24hprc	[23:51]
MJR_	in Malta	[23:51]
gribble	45.12	[23:51]
MJR_	Yay for the OIX	[23:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00568 BTC [+]	[23:51]
kakobrekla	yeah but that doesnt have much in common with being a bitcoin PR	[23:51]
kakobrekla	http://thebitcoincatalog.com/	[23:52]
kakobrekla	http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/	[23:52]
MJR_	Public relations?	[23:52]
kakobrekla	http://bitcointhedocumentary.org/wordpress/	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	heh	[23:53]
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MJR_	you know http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/ is actually pretty reasonably priced	[23:55]
MJR_	4.5 bitcoins?	[23:55]
MJR_	at most	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	Our services involve writing a professional Press Release for you and submitting it to anywhere from over 1000 to 30 000 + USA based media organisations	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	that doesn't mean anything to me.	[23:56]
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Bowjob	ianbakewell is still not here	[23:59]

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