Forum logs for 08 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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BingoBongo I heard PrimeAsic, that 99% chance of scam is responsive to inquiries again... [00:01]
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jborkl If you were a asshole scammer, you would probably run off with Nefario, Piratits, and the list goes on. I am not concerned if you are a asshole, that is not my problem [00:02]
jborkl :) [00:03]
jborkl people seem to get confused, you are one of the only ones that has not run away, yet they accuse you all the time [00:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] [00:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43500001 BTC [-] [00:04]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo i kinda stopped following [00:04]
mircea_popescu i mean... this is vegas. you get a chance. [00:04]
mircea_popescu jborkl sometimes people say the things they most fear. it's a defense mechanism. [00:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.65 = 13 BTC [-] [00:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43500001 BTC [-] [00:09]
thestringpuller !ticker m S.DICE [00:09]
thestringpuller dude seriously [00:09]
thestringpuller MIRCEA FIX THIS [00:09]
assbot Quest for vision is a great blessing. [00:09]
thestringpuller This is what you get for making people mad. [00:09]
dub fix what? [00:10]
dub http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif this is possibly the most useful gif ever [00:10]
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thestringpuller dub you rule sometimes [00:12]
thestringpuller just wow [00:12]
dub I can't take credit its from the forum [00:13]
BingoBongo Eh, I figured PrimeAsic blew their chance earlier this week. I'm having trouble figuring out if they are a well planned scam, troll, or both. [00:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+] [00:17]
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Eduard_Munteanu Is mpex.co down? [00:19]
Eduard_Munteanu Err... /topic. Sorry. :) [00:19]
mircea_popescu Eduard_Munteanu you've missed out on an entire saga. [00:19]
jborkl [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 1000 BTC [+] [00:20]
jurov bitvps gets 2nd round [00:20]
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jurov poor jcpham [00:21]
mircea_popescu jurov what's that mean ? [00:21]
mircea_popescu jborkl lol you gave me a start. [00:21]
Eduard_Munteanu Nothing important, I just wanted to peek at the options prices. Placing my overnight orders on mtgox... [00:21]
jborkl Lol [00:21]
mircea_popescu Eduard_Munteanu mostly the open interest covered yest. [00:21]
jborkl I should have /nick but I didnt want people to really have a heart attack [00:22]
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mircea_popescu bitcoinity dead again ? ;/ [00:22]
jurov we were making my vps accessible under another addy, suddenly mgmt froze again [00:22]
mircea_popescu lol [00:22]
Eduard_Munteanu bitcoincharts.com is dead as well. :( [00:22]
mircea_popescu oix : "7d": {"avg": "4713745617","min": "3024713516","max": "4853472885","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.62504497419E+12","cnt": ""} [00:23]
jurov it works here [00:23]
mircea_popescu it's relatively stale tho. [00:23]
Eduard_Munteanu jurov: can you see any chart here? http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ [00:23]
jurov yes, dispalyes quickly [00:23]
Eduard_Munteanu Only the top ribbon on that page loads. [00:23]
Eduard_Munteanu Hm. [00:24]
mircea_popescu i cant see it either [00:24]
Eduard_Munteanu Some #mtgox op told me they've banned most of my provider (RDS). [00:24]
mircea_popescu heh [00:24]
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Eduard_Munteanu I should probably switch to IPv6 or get a static address. [00:24]
Eduard_Munteanu The former sounds like a better idea. [00:25]
mircea_popescu i think more than just mpex, tis a test for bitcoins in general. [00:25]
Eduard_Munteanu Yeah. [00:25]
mircea_popescu pretty much every service is getting hit someway [00:25]
mircea_popescu the network itself was struggling with txs yest [00:25]
mircea_popescu growth pains. [00:26]
thestringpuller blockchain.info is down [00:26]
Eduard_Munteanu Also, all those chart / live data services merely do client-side lookups through the mtgox API, it seems. Instead of caching and relaying data. [00:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24999 BTC [+] [00:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.24999 = 0.5 BTC [+] [00:26]
Eduard_Munteanu I guess mtgox is suddenly getting DDoSed by that, not to mention the actual transactions. [00:27]
jurov blockchain up here [00:27]
Eduard_Munteanu Oh, well, I've placed my orders for the night, pretty conservative. [00:28]
mircea_popescu live data would not cache by the definition of the term [00:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+] [00:28]
FabianB ;;tslb [00:32]
gribble Time since last block: 36 minutes and 4 seconds [00:32]
kakobrekla prime asic broke ze chain [00:33]
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mircea_popescu dude again over half hour ?! [00:38]
mircea_popescu this is atrocious. [00:38]
mircea_popescu yest i had txs lay stale for > 6 hours before being included in a block. [00:39]
kakobrekla smpake would be useful. [00:39]
BingoBongo Pools getting attacked? [00:39]
mircea_popescu and im not exactly talking 10 bitcoins here [00:39]
kakobrekla it was 11. [00:39]
mircea_popescu people were liek "o, your bitcoind is ddosed too ?" and i was like no dude, the tx is out since noon '/ [00:39]
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kakobrekla yeah [00:40]
kakobrekla paypal looks nice again [00:40]
mircea_popescu totally. [00:41]
benkay same question as BingoBongo: are pools being ddosed as well? [00:41]
thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif [00:42]
jurov so, phungus from bitvps blames me and he won't enable my vps access anymore [00:43]
mircea_popescu lol [00:43]
jurov best time to withdraw everything and leave [00:43]
jurov mircea_popescu , will you let me? [00:43]
mircea_popescu let you what ? [00:43]
thestringpuller coinbr is down? [00:43]
jurov sell&withdraw everything from coinbr acct [00:43]
jurov and blame bitvps [00:43]
mircea_popescu yes, but you have to consider if you sell right now you're hurting customers. [00:44]
mircea_popescu not sure what consolation blaming bitvps will be. [00:44]
jurov you didn't understand me.. i can now vanish with all customers funds [00:44]
mircea_popescu anyway, par for the course for "hosting" out there : sure we can do it sir! o you mean things actually need to be done ? sorry, pls go to somewhere else. [00:44]
jurov as so many ppl did [00:45]
mircea_popescu if you ask them they're hosting corps, offer things like unlimited bw. [00:45]
mircea_popescu tghen if you serve 500 pages in a day it's suddenly... we're only hosters if you don't get traffic. [00:45]
jurov and if you attract ddos, you must apologize. [00:46]
mircea_popescu anyway, their upstream/colo host prolly told them to not do it again or else get a real connection [00:46]
jurov but yeah, I do have recent enough coinbr backups and am not running away. [00:47]
mircea_popescu good. [00:47]
jurov dunno if i should make me killer coffee and set it up or it can wait till tomorrow [00:47]
mircea_popescu i think it can wait till tomorrow. [00:48]
jurov mircea_popescu, how it looks on your side? [00:48]
mircea_popescu should be getting everything online today technically since it's almost 1am [00:48]
mircea_popescu but maybe get an account with a good ddos protected host. [00:48]
mircea_popescu because i tell you something, when they won't be able to take me down they'll harass you [00:48]
mircea_popescu and you have a much larger userbase crossection, you'll read plenty of shit in the forum [00:49]
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jurov i know... hope i bought some time with amazon, plan to set up some load balancing there quickly [00:50]
mircea_popescu prolly your best path of action on a personal level is [00:51]
mircea_popescu get some sleep now [00:51]
mircea_popescu wake naturally [00:51]
mircea_popescu deal with it then [00:51]
jurov heh okay.. if i manage to get asleep [00:51]
Anduck !ticker m s.mpoe [00:53]
assbot Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you? [00:53]
jborkl Mp or Jurov - are there a bunch of pending market orders to fill? [00:53]
jurov no, they are filled normally - see live.coinbr.com [00:54]
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mircea_popescu jborkl nope. [00:54]
jborkl good [00:55]
mircea_popescu today is mpex sunday :D [00:55]
jborkl all of the coinbr are down for me and have been [00:56]
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jurov jborkl, prolly stale DNS entries [00:57]
jurov same problem here, my isp insists caching them, had to change dns server [00:58]
mircea_popescu page hangs for me atm [00:59]
mircea_popescu but it does find your domain/favicon [00:59]
jurov http://coinbr.com should work at least, https is not set up yet so it fails [00:59]
jurov and mpex. and live. did not have dns expiration so they linger up pointing to bitvps [01:00]
mircea_popescu ah i c [01:01]
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BingoBongo 224744 2 minutes 443 25.33651677 BTC Deepbit 249kb; 224743 4 minutes 581 25.48650003 BTC 199.101.100.218 243kb [01:05]
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BingoBongo Interesting last couple blocks [01:05]
BingoBongo Barely more than the block reward in transactions and nearly a quarter megabyte each [01:06]
mircea_popescu indeed [01:06]
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* smickles brags about selling a significant portion of his btc at 49.2 then buying it back at 33.98 [01:11]
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* smickles will now have shortterm capital gains to report in the next tax season [01:12]
BingoBongo And these big barely more than 25 BTC blocks continue... [01:12]
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benkay ;;tslb [01:13]
gribble Time since last block: 4 minutes and 12 seconds [01:13]
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nanotube mircea_popescu: how goes the botting? :) [01:19]
Diablo-D3 smickles: lol you asshole [01:19]
mircea_popescu slowly it seems [01:19]
BitHub Hey, anyone seen Namworld around? [01:21]
nanotube mircea_popescu: heh ic [01:21]
mircea_popescu BitHub he just joined [01:21]
BitHub lulz [01:22]
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BitHub ahh man i really shouldn't use this thing when i first wake up [01:22]
BitHub thanks mircea, how are you by the way? [01:22]
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Namworld I'm here now. What do you need? [01:24]
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BitHub i'll pm you [01:24]
BitHub brb first tho [01:24]
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mircea_popescu i'm great. [01:28]
Namworld Did you get any demand for fees to stop the DDoS yet?? [01:31]
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Namworld Or is the DDoS done out of spite or something [01:31]
Namworld I need to go in and make a deposit/trade [01:32]
Namworld Can you take manual deposits for now? [01:32]
Diablo-D3 heh what ddos? [01:33]
Namworld MPEx getting ddos'ed [01:33]
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Diablo-D3 lame [01:33]
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BitHub meanwhile btcjam goes on [01:34]
* BitHub rolls eyes [01:34]
Namworld No one cares about BTCjam... that's why [01:35]
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BitHub haha [01:35]
kmg test [01:37]
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deadweasel nice topic [01:39]
deadweasel anybody else listen to Takenobu? [01:39]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.005979 = 0.1196 BTC [-] [01:40]
deadweasel asian violinist. [01:40]
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deadweasel he killed my weasel with music. [01:40]
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smickles namworld yeah, ddos [01:41]
mod6 6 blocks mined in 17 minutes?! [01:42]
smickles sillything to Do to [01:42]
mircea_popescu Namworld no demands. [01:42]
mod6 its like faaaasst, then sloooow [01:42]
mircea_popescu mod6 weirdhuh [01:42]
smickles mod6 I've heard that randomness is clumsy [01:42]
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smickles we, clumpy [01:43]
mod6 heheh [01:43]
mod6 it is strange though... its like they kick up the ASCIs and grab a few blocks then turn 'em down to keep the difficulty in check? [01:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [+] [01:43]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.00899 = 0.0809 BTC [+] [01:43]
smickles thatwouldn't work afaik [01:43]
mod6 thats good! lol [01:43]
mod6 im not sure wtf is goin on [01:44]
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mircea_popescu mod6 maybe overheating issues [01:45]
mod6 ahh. [01:48]
kakobrekla clock buffers. [01:48]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,diff [01:53]
gribble 4367876.0008422 [01:54]
mircea_popescu ;;estimate [01:54]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 4749519.86453 based on data since last change | 4759411.19664 based on data for last three days [01:54]
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assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08999 BTC [+] [01:59]
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benkay allo kakobrekla [02:02]
kakobrekla allo allo [02:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [-] [02:02]
benkay may i please have user name for mpex socket? [02:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.00899 = 0.036 BTC [+] [02:02]
kakobrekla see pm [02:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.009 = 0.9 BTC [+] [02:04]
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benkay ;;tslb [02:16]
gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 20 seconds [02:16]
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error4733 freenode under DDoS [02:47]
error4733 SELL SELL SELL [02:48]
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mircea_popescu heh [02:51]
Bowjob selll [02:52]
Bowjob sell [02:52]
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mircea_popescu error4733 did they announce ? [02:53]
Bowjob mp is your trolling SA contest still up for grabs? [02:55]
mircea_popescu sure. [02:55]
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Bowjob im trolling gfaqs with coins as practice.. still training [02:55]
Bowjob lol [02:55]
Bowjob kk [02:55]
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mircea_popescu lol remember when i used to pay .5 btc for an account there [02:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 389 @ 0.0007 = 0.2723 BTC [-] [02:55]
mircea_popescu now it's like... 0.2 ? [02:55]
mircea_popescu lol. [02:56]
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Bowjob yah i guess [02:56]
mircea_popescu they shrunk. [02:56]
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Bowjob someone gambled 17 BTC to S.Dice with their Mt gox account [02:59]
Bowjob it seems the gamble won.. [02:59]
Bowjob but theres no way to tel from which account it came from... [02:59]
Bowjob so the gambler is SOL it seems [03:00]
mircea_popescu ouch [03:01]
mircea_popescu pity we don't have the rota anymoar. [03:01]
Bowjob maybe that guy was angle shooting [03:02]
Bowjob saying he accidentally sent it to dice instead of his account [03:02]
Bowjob so erik would refund him [03:02]
Bowjob the same thing happened to this dude back then in dec, lost 50 btc [03:03]
mircea_popescu possibly so. [03:05]
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sgornick Bowjob: There's someone on the forum just claiming 21 lost that way. [03:12]
Bowjob yeah were tlking about the same guy [03:12]
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Bowjob he bet 17, won it.. but then the money got sent to mt gox [03:13]
sgornick > but theres no way to tel from which account it came from... [03:13]
sgornick You mean to which Mt. Gox account it went. [03:13]
sgornick Well, Mt Gox can tell. They have better things to do than track down mistakenly made SD payments though. [03:14]
Bowjob ;;ticker [03:16]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.38580, Best ask: 42.39209, Bid-ask spread: 0.00629, Last trade: 42.39209, 24 hour volume: 118703.21738512, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.39283 [03:16]
mircea_popescu that guy must be real confused. [03:24]
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mircea_popescu hey, is it the guy who misidentified someone else's bet on bitbet as his own and rose hell here a few days ago ? [03:24]
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BingoBongo If only I could reread that post on Trilema... [03:25]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo which ? [03:25]
BingoBongo The BBet post. [03:25]
mircea_popescu o o [03:25]
BingoBongo Mr. Imaginary bet. [03:25]
BingoBongo I actually came on here today because i was wondering why I couldn't ready your classic on the housing crisis. [03:26]
BingoBongo *read [03:26]
B0g4r7_ beetlebee BenderCoin BingoBongo bit14 BitHub bitit blu3gr1ffon Bowjob BTCTrader2 burnside [03:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo http://pastebin.com/TkqAG5ie [03:27]
BingoBongo Thanks. Have you though about just storing a copy of the Trilema archive in the namecoin blockchain. I don't think they'd mind. [03:28]
mircea_popescu you know trilema is like 7k articles, over 10mb of plaintext [03:28]
mircea_popescu ahem [03:28]
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mircea_popescu over 10mn words = like 70mb of text [03:28]
BingoBongo It's namecoin. They'll take anything. [03:28]
mircea_popescu lmao [03:28]
mod6 lol oh yeah JimRogers [03:29]
thestringpuller ;;calc 2.5 / 7 [03:38]
gribble 0.357142857143 [03:38]
thestringpuller ;;calc (2.5 / 7) * 140 [03:38]
gribble 50 [03:38]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [03:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.70000, Best ask: 42.81500, Bid-ask spread: 0.11500, Last trade: 42.78384, 24 hour volume: 114078.83449030, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.60795 [03:39]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [03:39]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 4755826.83674 based on data since last change | 4747165.78694 based on data for last three days [03:39]
BingoBongo ;;asks 1000 [03:39]
gribble There are currently 111370.77 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 9613421.27709 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0052 seconds [03:39]
BingoBongo Sell orders about trippled since the last time I asked that... [03:40]
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Bowjob eh [03:41]
Bowjob wait till they hit 10k [03:41]
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Namworld They won't hit 10k... [03:43]
BingoBongo ;;asks 10000 [03:43]
gribble There are currently 115133.36 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 17157717.7085 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0056 seconds [03:43]
BingoBongo Maybe they will... [03:44]
Namworld No... [03:44]
Namworld as price go up, people tend to start putting money in the way. [03:44]
BingoBongo ;;asks 100 [03:45]
gribble There are currently 98810.011 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5632319.28639 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0051 seconds [03:46]
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Namworld So no manual deposit I get it... [03:47]
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aethero What happened to MPEX? [03:53]
Namworld being DDoS'ed [03:53]
aethero What type of ddos? [03:53]
Namworld I have no idea [03:53]
Namworld anyway, MPEx will be getting an upgrade too [03:54]
Bowjob ;;ticker [03:54]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.75902, Best ask: 41.98351, Bid-ask spread: 0.22449, Last trade: 41.75902, 24 hour volume: 112921.07904056, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.64678 [03:54]
Namworld You can access MPEx from a proxy such as: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ [03:54]
Bowjob oh no. we are crashing again [03:54]
Namworld But you'll see there's an updating message. [03:54]
Namworld Bowjob: of course... [03:54]
aethero erk [03:55]
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Namworld Why would price madly like that and stay like that? [03:55]
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jcpham i'm gona have to say bitcoin [03:56]
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Namworld Wrong answer... that's the answer to why it raised, not why it would stay like that. [03:58]
jcpham heh [03:59]
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dub its a jcsham [04:03]
BingoBongo You'd be surprised Namworld the things that Dunning-Kruger can explain. It's like the new Goodwin, but for the Slate crowd. [04:03]
Namworld What does Dunning-Kruger has to do with it? [04:06]
Namworld Everyone thinks they're skilled because they buy BTC higher and higher because it keeps going higher and higher? [04:07]
BingoBongo It's why we could hit 10,000. Coinlab biting off more than they can chew and somehow instead of a flash crash we get a flash rally when they are hacked. Also yes your second point. [04:07]
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BingoBongo A combination of the two could probably make a new normal though. [04:08]
Chilca mpex still down? [04:09]
dub yes [04:09]
Chilca thanks, is there any status of the DDOS? [04:09]
Namworld I bet after it all settles, people who kept buying will be apoplectic with explanations and sound just like people after the dotcom bubble... [04:10]
Bugpowder I will tell u skilled [04:11]
Bugpowder Sell 500 at 47-48.89 [04:11]
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Bugpowder Buy 200 @ 36.17 and 33.335 [04:12]
Bugpowder Sell 100@ 44.47 [04:12]
dub Chilca: sounds like it is ongoing but mpex has now been taken offline for upgrades [04:12]
Bugpowder Sign up for gox wire [04:12]
Bugpowder Come back mpex [04:13]
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jborkl_ Bitcoin chart reminds me of silver chart,just compressed [04:14]
Namworld MPEx is a bit late on schedule for the upgrades [04:14]
dub he said the 8th [04:14]
mircea_popescu well... it's like 4am on the 8th so. [04:15]
mircea_popescu a bit later than 1am [04:15]
Namworld yeah [04:15]
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dub its actually 3pm on teh 8th [04:15]
dub in the earliest TZ anyway [04:16]
mircea_popescu a well [04:16]
Namworld Honestly, with upgrades, it's always hard to estimate. [04:16]
Bowjob ;;ticker [04:16]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.80100, Best ask: 41.98351, Bid-ask spread: 0.18251, Last trade: 41.91771, 24 hour volume: 109127.80902302, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.65552 [04:16]
Namworld Can take twice or half the time or more. [04:16]
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mircea_popescu anyweay, the first irc bot should be around in a few hours i think [04:17]
Namworld irc bot? [04:17]
mircea_popescu yes. [04:17]
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Namworld I'm curious about that now. [04:18]
Diablo-D3 oh? [04:20]
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reddddd @CoinBr What's the point of having a support forum if you're not going to use it more major stuff like this? [04:22]
dub you can get to coinbr? [04:23]
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dub oh bitcoinforum.com, good point [04:25]
reddddd @dub, yeah [04:25]
error4733 jborkl @ 3:14 http://www.businessinsider.com/this-chart-of-bitcoins-is-bananas-and-it-looks-a-lot-like-the-price-of-gold-2013-3 [04:28]
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reddddd CoinBr also seems to have a twitter account that could have used an update. There are so many better ways to let customers know what the hell is going on than just IRC. [04:30]
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mircea_popescu reddddd there's nothing better than irc. [04:34]
mircea_popescu Namworld you'll be able to go something like #post blabla and the bot will answer with an url to a pastebin with your response. [04:35]
mircea_popescu where ofcourse blabla is the pastebin id [04:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.444 = 0.888 BTC [+] [04:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.440001 = 1.76 BTC [-] [04:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.44000006 = 1.32 BTC [-] [04:36]
Namworld neat [04:37]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.5 = 4 BTC [+] [04:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [+] [04:49]
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dub -dev is so retarded [04:50]
Namworld What's happening in there? [04:51]
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dub novels are being written to explain how fees work to a novice [04:51]
dub the simple answer is bitcoin is stupid wrt fees [04:52]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [04:59]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.62827, Best ask: 42.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16173, Last trade: 42.80000, 24 hour volume: 104745.97636275, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.61786 [04:59]
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mircea_popescu "Pimples can be treated by various acne medications prescribed by a dermatologist, or purchased at a drug store with a wide variety of treatments." [05:13]
mircea_popescu dude i dunno if i'd purchase pimples [05:13]
mircea_popescu even at the store. [05:13]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: ... [05:15]
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BingoBongo You know medicine is fucked when leukemia is easier to treat than pimples. [05:15]
mircea_popescu im just quoting from the retardopedia. [05:15]
mircea_popescu you know, back 300 years ago when the encyclopedists came up with the first one, it was a monument of erudition [05:16]
mircea_popescu and good writing. [05:16]
BingoBongo No encyclopedia has ever been good [05:16]
mircea_popescu diderot & d'alembert's was. [05:17]
Diablo-D3 pimples is very easy to treat [05:17]
Diablo-D3 modern medicine refuses to accept the treatment because they can't charge obscene amounts of money for it [05:17]
Diablo-D3 take high doses of omega 6 for the rest of your life. [05:17]
BingoBongo My french isn't good enough to make an informed opinion on Diderot's [05:17]
Diablo-D3 not only does it cure pimples, it cures and lessens lots of other things [05:17]
BingoBongo Leukemia is easy to treat too. Eat a bunch of methotrexate and live. [05:18]
Diablo-D3 through in 5000 IU of vitamin D daily, and you'll probably add another ten years to your life [05:18]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo pick a page and read outloud [05:18]
mircea_popescu im willing to go on a limb and say you'll get my point [05:18]
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BingoBongo What am I reading from again, Retardo-wiki'wiki'wiki'wha? [05:23]
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mircea_popescu BingoBongo l'encyclopedie. [05:23]
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mircea_popescu l'encyclopedie [05:24]
BingoBongo Rubeta: a poison derived from the juice of a frog. Juvenal wrote of a lady who mingled this kind of poison in wine and presented it to her husband [05:29]
BingoBongo from http://www.alembert.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=611399672&catid=665689230:poison&Itemid=127 [05:31]
BingoBongo Seems almost more like a dictionary [05:33]
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BingoBongo I'll dig deeper [05:33]
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BingoBongo What little french I've read mircea_popescu has been at least 200 years newer [05:35]
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mircea_popescu :p [05:37]
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mircea_popescu you don't have to translate it [05:38]
mircea_popescu just read it, outloud. [05:38]
BitHub almost time for teh weekend [05:38]
mircea_popescu Ce qu'on appelle bonheur, est une idée abstraite, composée de quelques idées de plaisir ; car qui n'a qu'un moment de plaisir n'est point un homme heureux ; de même qu'un moment de douleur ne fait point un homme malheureux. Le plaisir est plus rapide que le bonheur, & le bonheur plus passager que la félicité. Quand on dit je suis heureux dans ce moment, on abuse du mot, & cela ne veut dire que j'ai du plaisir : q [05:39]
mircea_popescu uand on a des plaisirs un peu répétés, on peut dans cet espace de tems se dire heureux ; quand ce bonheur dure un peu plus, c'est un état de félicité ; on est quelquefois bien loin d'être heureux dans la prospérité, comme un malade dégoûté ne mange rien d'un grand festin préparé pour lui. [05:39]
Bowjob "bonheur" [05:44]
Bowjob =boner? [05:44]
mircea_popescu sorta like a low roar happines [05:47]
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BingoBongo mircea_popescu it isn't that unlike James [05:48]
BingoBongo It is a familiar sentiment [05:49]
mircea_popescu james who ? [05:50]
BitHub mircea coming to australia this weekend? [05:51]
BingoBongo William James, one of maybe three Americans introspective enough about the pecuiar brand of manic misery here to approach a reasonble target for a philosopher [05:51]
mircea_popescu ah william james. okay [05:52]
mircea_popescu BitHub not bloody likely :D [05:52]
BitHub haha [05:52]
BitHub where the bloody hell are ya [05:52]
mircea_popescu timisoara. [05:52]
BitHub lets go visit kimdotcom i'm bored [05:53]
mircea_popescu bloody hell. [05:53]
mircea_popescu send a wire. nothing happens. [05:53]
BitHub lul [05:53]
mircea_popescu call the bank ready to bite their head off for being idiots [05:54]
BitHub bloody hell [05:54]
mircea_popescu turns out... the... wire...system... is... down. [05:54]
mircea_popescu what the fuck are these people doing over there. [05:54]
BitHub seems odd when someone else says it [05:54]
BitHub being a bunch of cunty's? [05:54]
mircea_popescu the us is falling apart. [05:54]
mircea_popescu i mean, bitcoin transactions taking 6 hours ? okay. its some internet funny money nobody heard about. [05:54]
mircea_popescu but when my banker has to tell me he failed because the wire system is down... [05:55]
BitHub dood stop complaining [05:55]
BitHub i had to sit a cafe for 6 hours just to wait for 1 confirm [05:55]
mircea_popescu it's not even complaining. i'm awed i guess. [05:55]
BitHub it was hell [05:55]
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mod6 sup mpexbot [06:07]
mod6 (20:09) < BitHub> DEATH TO SD [06:09]
mod6 here we go again [06:09]
mircea_popescu lol he's trolling. [06:10]
BitHub i didn't care before till i had to start waiting hours and hours and hours for 1 confirm [06:10]
BitHub now its personal [06:10]
mod6 ahh, successfull troll 9/10 [06:10]
mod6 oh no troll then [06:10]
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mircea_popescu guess that makes me successfull troll 10/10 [06:11]
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jcpham mod6 agreed [06:16]
jcpham like adhd chat [06:16]
mod6 this stuff about SD is getting out of hand [06:16]
jcpham i don't care so much about SD [06:17]
jcpham if txns aren't going through that's a problem [06:17]
jcpham a problem i think miners should capitalize on [06:17]
jcpham i'm not sure how though [06:18]
jcpham if SD wants its blocks mined it needs to pay a toll [06:18]
jcpham it needs a pool in its pocket [06:18]
topace_ how goes the mpex upgrades/"overhaul" ? [06:18]
jcpham that's why i pay a fee on my txns, because i want them to go through [06:19]
BitHub i agree [06:20]
BitHub slap a toll in there [06:20]
jcpham specialized pools should crop up soon [06:20]
mod6 what is going on... [06:20]
BitHub so you mean just a mining farm just for SD transactions? [06:20]
mod6 so tx's are not being processed at all? [06:20]
jcpham in some cases they are backing up because of the 250kb block limit [06:21]
jcpham afaiunderstand it [06:21]
jcpham luke-jr and others primarily blame this on SD [06:21]
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jcpham and then some say the devs should all hold hands and increase it [06:22]
BingoBongo I blame bitvisitor. At least some SD transactions carry appreciable amunts of bitcoins. [06:22]
mod6 yeah, read about that shit earlier... [06:22]
mod6 today has been insane even outside of btc today, hard to keep up [06:23]
mod6 so basically btc is fucked [06:23]
BingoBongo Btc is only fucked in the sense it is having fun getting its dick wet [06:24]
mod6 if they move up to 1Mb that buys them some time, but isn't any different then what the global central banks are doing [06:24]
mod6 buying time [06:24]
jcpham https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150405.0;topicseen [06:24]
jcpham the "SD is spam" idea has traction [06:25]
mod6 yeah, looks like it [06:26]
jcpham http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html [06:27]
jcpham At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the [06:27]
jcpham network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to [06:27]
jcpham specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would [06:27]
jcpham only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with [06:27]
jcpham that one node. [06:27]
jcpham assume we're close to the point of full node/ merkle nodes [06:27]
jcpham what happens to SD if pools or full nodes implement that patch [06:28]
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Diablo-D3 jcpham: dude [06:28]
Diablo-D3 as it stands [06:28]
Diablo-D3 without any patch [06:28]
Diablo-D3 bitcoin will just shove SD tx out because they don't pay fees [06:28]
BitHub i got so angry i sold over 1000 sdice shares for whatever the fuck price, something cheap and nasty [06:29]
jcpham too much tin foil [06:29]
BitHub fuck them [06:29]
jcpham not enough beer. my apologies [06:29]
mod6 i'm gonna guess they will cut SD out, and then SD will just pay fees and maybe raise betting levels? [06:29]
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mod6 there was talk about raising min fee to .01 or something, but that doesn't give incentive to not use anything else gay like PP [06:30]
mod6 now, see, i thought that EV kept sayin how he pays fee's and the miners are getting rich off the fee's alone... [06:31]
mod6 ala, something like `SD has paid more in fee's than all the rest of the tx's combined'... must find link... [06:32]
mod6 one sec. [06:32]
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mod6 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145510.msg1559267#msg1559267 [06:33]
mod6 there [06:33]
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smickles $coin [06:33]
mpexbot smickles: Error: "coin" is not a valid command. [06:33]
smickles fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu [06:34]
mod6 so i think that SD pays the fee's which is what got me so worked up this morning reading all of Luke-jr's crusade to rid the world of SD [06:36]
mod6 but the blocksize thing is a seperate problem. [06:36]
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mircea_popescu Btc is only fucked in the sense it is having fun getting its dick wet << this. [06:38]
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mircea_popescu how goes the mpex upgrades/"overhaul" ? << the mpexbot just showed up [06:38]
mircea_popescu jcpham read the next reply from that dude. [06:39]
mircea_popescu http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09968.html [06:39]
mircea_popescu he's brilliant. [06:39]
BingoBongo $OIX [06:39]
mpexbot BingoBongo: Error: "OIX" is not a valid command. [06:39]
mircea_popescu who is he anyway ? [06:39]
mircea_popescu $dix [06:39]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Error: "dix" is not a valid command. [06:39]
doctor_pullfingr can we speculate that the ddos against mpex is retaliation for SD spam? [06:39]
mod6 maybe [06:39]
mircea_popescu lol i don't think luke has the resources for something like this. [06:40]
BitHub what's the price of SD now? [06:40]
BitHub wonder if its gone down a bit [06:40]
mircea_popescu BitHub not appreciably changed. [06:40]
BitHub not like yesterday when everyone thought mpex was done for hey [06:40]
BingoBongo Luke has too well developed though weird sense of ethics for a DDOS [06:41]
jcpham that message thread may wind up framed in the luvre or some shit [06:41]
mircea_popescu they did ?! [06:41]
BitHub yeah remember mircea everyone in otc was panicing [06:41]
BitHub lulz [06:41]
mircea_popescu lol [06:41]
mircea_popescu mpex ain't done for till i say [06:42]
mircea_popescu and i'm niot even fat. [06:42]
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BitHub fiat :P [06:42]
mircea_popescu anyone saw "seek and destroy" ? [06:42]
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mircea_popescu christopher walken movie [06:42]
BitHub ummm nope [06:43]
BitHub good? [06:43]
mircea_popescu its surreal [06:43]
jcpham mircea_popescu you should partake in -otc for a bit [06:43]
mircea_popescu i dunno why it didn't get more traction, should be a cult classic. [06:43]
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jcpham it's total anarchy [06:43]
BitHub what year? [06:43]
mircea_popescu 1995 [06:43]
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mircea_popescu jcpham lol [06:43]
jcpham it's total anarchy [06:44]
BitHub my bad jcpham [06:44]
BitHub i think its my fault [06:44]
jcpham nope [06:44]
jcpham channel needs desperately to be +m [06:44]
mircea_popescu pity it's +m and not +fuckyouyourestupid [06:44]
mircea_popescu which would be the proper name of that flag [06:44]
mircea_popescu i guess it's too long [06:44]
BitHub are you sure he's in that movie mircea? [06:45]
BitHub nothing on imdb [06:45]
mircea_popescu yes im sure. [06:45]
mircea_popescu hum lets see [06:45]
mircea_popescu http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114371/ [06:45]
mircea_popescu tghere. scorsese also has a cameo [06:45]
mircea_popescu he plays a tax accountant for the state of florida lol [06:45]
BitHub ahh search not seek :P [06:45]
BitHub lul scorses wtf [06:45]
mircea_popescu o sorry my bad [06:45]
jcpham i just realized the other day that mario puzo did superman [06:46]
jcpham the original screenplay [06:46]
BitHub nice same guy as godfather [06:46]
jcpham and jor-el is the fucking godfather [06:46]
BitHub ahh yeah that's right he did play jor-el [06:46]
jcpham do you think when they were filming the godfather and made money [06:46]
jcpham marlon brando was like [06:46]
jcpham you know i'd really like to be superman [06:47]
mircea_popescu lol [06:47]
BitHub fuck man how good was marlon brando [06:47]
jcpham and that was as close as he came to it [06:47]
mircea_popescu jcpham do you know the one where marlon brando went like... hey, i'd like to rape this 19 yo [06:47]
mircea_popescu and so they did it ? [06:47]
jcpham hrm sounds questionably legal [06:47]
BitHub wat? [06:47]
mircea_popescu yeah. [06:47]
mircea_popescu girl got total rape victim shock syndrome [06:48]
maximian These morons are gonna kill Bitcoin with this anti-SD crusade… [06:48]
mircea_popescu became like, a feminist and everything. total tableau. [06:48]
BitHub he raped someone? [06:48]
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mircea_popescu maximian tell you something : if morons are gonna kills anything then fuck that anything. [06:48]
mircea_popescu BitHub yes. [06:48]
mircea_popescu anal sex too [06:48]
mircea_popescu with butter. [06:48]
BitHub i doubt it [06:48]
mircea_popescu its a fact. [06:48]
BitHub nah [06:49]
BingoBongo The anti-SD crusade isn't going to kill bitcoin. The crusaders are more people who liberated their bitcoins by freeing them into S.Dice's arms. Probably... except for Luke. [06:49]
maximian the problem is their little "SD is spam" meme is starting to spread [06:49]
mod6 (20:48) < maximian> These morons are gonna kill Bitcoin with this anti-SD crusade... <<< this [06:49]
BitHub the coolest thing about brando was when he sent an indian woman to collect his oscar for his role in the godfather [06:49]
mircea_popescu BitHub http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-469646/I-felt-raped-Brando.html [06:50]
BitHub i "felt" raped [06:50]
BitHub lulz [06:50]
mircea_popescu maximian mod6 people fail to realise this, but there's a good reason and great strategic advantage in the girl's fuck you attitude. [06:50]
mod6 (20:46) <+mod6> "First, SD has paid more mining fees than everyone else in the world, combined." << Is this a lie? [06:50]
mod6 (20:46) <+Luke-Jr> mod6: yes [06:50]
mod6 there it is folks [06:50]
BitHub oh yeah i remember this movie [06:51]
BitHub it was pretty friggen psycho [06:51]
mircea_popescu no meme spreads past the point where someone's holding a club [06:51]
BitHub i doubt it tho mircea [06:51]
mircea_popescu mod6 the guy's insane, sd paid like 55% of all fees ever paid [06:51]
maximian DailyAnarchist put it right it a bitcointalk thread: if nobody knew what the source of these "spam" transactions were, then the discussion would be about how to improve the system to handle more transactions. The fact that the crusaders know these transactions are from SatoshiDice has clouded their judgement. [06:51]
mircea_popescu maximian its not even that. [06:51]
mod6 mircea_popescu: im /nearly/ at a loss for words. [06:51]
BitHub but even if he did, meh that's his personal life, still the best actor [06:51]
mircea_popescu it's simple drama. some people who mean very little started to notice. [06:51]
mircea_popescu and are trying to inject themselves into the public eye [06:52]
mircea_popescu how is that accomplished ? why, crusade for "the betterment". [06:52]
mircea_popescu Luke-Jr is a sort of bitcoin obama. [06:52]
mircea_popescu the thing is... unlike fiat that shit doesn't work here. [06:52]
BitHub bitcoin obama lulz [06:52]
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mircea_popescu well... for anything other than comedic relief. [06:52]
BitHub he gave me a pretty lulz neg review [06:52]
mod6 heheh [06:52]
mircea_popescu at any rate, drama backs bitcoin, so, all this is good. [06:52]
mod6 BitHub: and you're on Luke-jr's side?!?!? [06:53]
maximian it raises my hackles, I tell you! :) [06:53]
BitHub heh i'm not on his side [06:53]
BitHub but i do have beef with sdice atm [06:53]
mod6 mircea_popescu: haha drama is right. BTC has more drama than Lifetime Channel. [06:53]
mircea_popescu mod6 imagine how it'll be when women finally discover it. [06:54]
* BitHub starts hiding his bitcoin wallet now [06:54]
mircea_popescu otc made out of ~100 middle aged women with nothing better to do [06:54]
BingoBongo bitcoin-assets we've taken the family car apart six times today just to get some quiet time [06:55]
mod6 (20:54) < jcpham> luke-jr if you don't stfu about SD i'm going to burn your church down [06:55]
mircea_popescu lol [06:55]
mod6 (20:54) <+Luke-Jr> jcpham: I'll be there to shoot you when you try. [06:55]
mod6 (20:55) < jcpham> :) [06:55]
mod6 (20:55) <+mod6> wwjd [06:55]
mircea_popescu where's that church anyway ? [06:55]
BingoBongo Rome isn't it? He's catholic his local stuff doesn't matter. I just wonder which of the BitBet pope bets are his. [06:56]
mod6 FL i guess [06:56]
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doctor_pullfingr GoDaddy got semi famous off the savetoby controversy. Then got really famous off the Superbowl controversy. I think S.Dice should milk this controversy for everything it's got. shout S.Dice is spam from the mountaintops [06:57]
doctor_pullfingr I own shares btw [06:58]
doctor_pullfingr http://savetoby.com/ [06:58]
mircea_popescu lol [06:59]
mod6 (20:58) <+Luke-Jr> anyhow, I was just trying to get a feel for how many people would run a counter-SD client if I take the time to write the code [06:59]
mircea_popescu i dunno, goddady is a piece of shit. [06:59]
mod6 this is like his own fork isn't it? [06:59]
maximian evoorhees should reinvest his profits into a massive mining pool - that's probably the surest way to make the crusaders irrelevant. [06:59]
mod6 i mean he's not saying that, but thats what it is. [07:00]
mircea_popescu maximian at this point in the game it's the surest way to go bankrupt. [07:00]
BitHub POS name [07:00]
mircea_popescu all the scams... [07:00]
Luke-Jr maximian: the surest way is to stop flooding and implement SD properly [07:00]
Luke-Jr maximian: far cheaper too [07:00]
mircea_popescu this is properly dood. [07:00]
maximian "properly" [07:00]
mod6 Luke-Jr: what you're proposing is a hard fork of the blockchain right? [07:00]
mircea_popescu mod6 so he starts his own client, what's the big deal ? [07:00]
Luke-Jr heck, I'd even offer to do it for him except my stupid State has laws against writing code for gambling -.- [07:00]
Luke-Jr mod6: no [07:00]
mod6 ok. i don't care if he starts his own client. [07:00]
mircea_popescu face facts : sooner or later Luke-Jr will end up in a little corner playing with some correct toys nobody cares about [07:00]
BitHub serious Luke? [07:01]
mod6 as long as everyone else figures out how to solve the block size issue. [07:01]
mircea_popescu this is how it goes, nothing wrong in it. [07:01]
BitHub laws against writing code? [07:01]
maximian If you didn't know the origin of the transactions, what would you say? [07:01]
mod6 SD is another problem [07:01]
BitHub that's crazy [07:01]
mod6 or not [07:01]
Luke-Jr BitHub: yes, it's stupid [07:01]
mod6 but... whatever. they're two seperate topics [07:01]
BitHub Luke so you could fly to mexico and be all sweet? [07:01]
Luke-Jr why the USA has such a big problem with gambling, I'll probably never understand [07:01]
mod6 what if SD wasnt a gaming site? [07:01]
Luke-Jr BitHub: I'm not interested in relocation to Mexico. [07:01]
BitHub so online gambling is illegal but guns is sweet? haha [07:01]
mod6 what if it was just some random tx's from the same host that paid the fee's? [07:01]
mod6 would you say the same thing? [07:01]
Luke-Jr mod6: a flood is a flood. [07:02]
BitHub Luke-Jr ya i know was thinking if you spent a week there adn wrote the code, would that be legal? [07:02]
Luke-Jr mod6: I don't care how it's financed [07:02]
Luke-Jr BitHub: dunno [07:02]
BitHub hmm i think you would get away with it :) [07:02]
mod6 Luke-Jr: ok. so what happens when there are 1,000,000 bitcoin users and they all create 5 new tx's per day. [07:02]
mod6 what then? we just shut the fucking doors and go home? [07:02]
mod6 christ on a pony this is idiotic [07:03]
Luke-Jr mod6: no, that's far less than SD does [07:03]
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mod6 you're saying that SD does more than 5 million tx's per day? [07:03]
Luke-Jr mod6: I'm saying adoption matters. [07:03]
Luke-Jr 1,000,000 nodes can handle 5 mil txs [07:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.446 = 2.23 BTC [-] [07:04]
mircea_popescu with the current broken bitcoin-qt there will never, ever, no matter what be 1mn nodes. [07:04]
mircea_popescu ever. [07:04]
mod6 Luke-Jr: yes, adoption matters, you know what I have guys download? something for their android [07:04]
mod6 not the full client. [07:04]
mod6 i don't want them to wait 3 days [07:04]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: 1,000,000 users also brings a number more developers onboard [07:05]
mircea_popescu Luke-Jr what the fuck are you thinking this is, chicken lay eggs ? [07:05]
Luke-Jr mod6: eventually, Bitcoin-Qt will be instant-on [07:05]
mircea_popescu herpderp joe sixpack becomes a dev if you aggregate 5000 of them !? [07:05]
mircea_popescu money brings devs. [07:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+] [07:05]
Luke-Jr http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html <-- Satoshi on the necessity of adoption to scale [07:05]
mircea_popescu there was never good myspace code. ever. [07:06]
mircea_popescu myspace had a billion users. [07:06]
mircea_popescu the best thing you can do for adoption to scale right now is to fix the motherfucking client. [07:06]
mircea_popescu rather than trying to argue with a tank. [07:06]
Luke-Jr the client isn't broken. [07:07]
BitHub lul myspace [07:07]
mircea_popescu http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lBXQVHyQ1VA/TNczMI1ojSI/AAAAAAAAAq4/7tE5YUtGIz4/s1600/Tank_over_car.jpg [07:07]
mircea_popescu car that tried to argue with a tank. [07:07]
mircea_popescu the client is beyond broken. [07:07]
mircea_popescu actually it may be the worst piece of crap ever used by this many people. [07:07]
mod6 so you're gonna make your own client, that'll have your branch (exclusion of '1dice') in there native? [07:09]
mircea_popescu simple illustrative point : i can pick a torrent worth 7gb right now, anything with less than 20 seeders [07:09]
mircea_popescu and it will be downloaded in an hour. [07:09]
mircea_popescu this means blockchain MUST be downloaded in 15 minutes tops. [07:09]
mircea_popescu TOPS. [07:09]
mod6 yeah, torrents are uber fast [07:09]
mircea_popescu until the point that's the case none of you people have any business eating even. [07:09]
mircea_popescu forget having oppinions. just tap the kbd till it does it. [07:10]
jcpham lots of info for SD investors to speculate on [07:10]
mod6 vote with your coins! [07:10]
mod6 lol [07:10]
jcpham i think this entire chat would be insider trading somehow [07:11]
jcpham now all we have to do is collude [07:11]
jcpham publicly [07:11]
mod6 bah [07:11]
BingoBongo It's IRC this is public enough... [07:11]
jcpham you would think, but... [07:12]
BitHub it is? [07:12]
* BitHub puts his pants back on [07:12]
BingoBongo any one know who Guest 11382 is? [07:12]
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Bowjob mhm anyone think bfl wont deliver by april? [07:15]
BitHub april 1st [07:15]
BitHub deliver you a big box with a letter inside it asking for money money [07:16]
BitHub more [07:16]
BingoBongo I bet they might, BitCOin's just playmoney anyway [07:16]
Bowjob gah [07:17]
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BingoBongo At least BitBet is online... [07:22]
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mod6 are tx's going through though? [07:22]
BingoBongo Investigating that now [07:24]
BingoBongo Blockchain saw it... Let's see if it confirms... [07:26]
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mod6 well, this one isn't too old, and it's got 19 confs: http://blockchain.info/tx/d8dac0508d27e922f957c893c896f6f887a7dc614c1aec1c89b27b943ff5be0f [07:27]
mod6 ima keep lookin [07:27]
BingoBongo http://blockchain.info/tx-index/59136614/289e2dc6ac2cd1f3e8d5ec126741b304caf1e16b3e746eadd0a402dbc9910870 because the Dutch ar fucking Cuba's shit up right now... [07:28]
mod6 thanks BingoBongo [07:28]
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BingoBongo You're welcome. It's one of those World Baseball Classic penny bets, because apparently that didn't have enough chutzpah to attract much interest. I've had too much vodka tonight to mess with the python script so I don't know at this weight if I will clear anything, but fuck it. Bitcoin is an MMORPG and that's what I'm telling the 5-0 [07:31]
mod6 for real lol [07:32]
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SpNg hey mircea_popescu I have been out of the loop the last couple days. What's going on with MPEx? I see that it's down right now. [07:34]
BingoBongo Bitcoin is a drama role playing game and it just so happens the tokens to play the game happen to be valued quite a bit. Like WoW gold. [07:34]
mod6 im starting to think the same thing. like fast-times-at-btc-high. [07:34]
BitHub haha bingo, too true [07:35]
BitHub an expensive game of emotions [07:35]
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mircea_popescu SpNg well, past coupla days its been being ddosed [07:36]
mircea_popescu finally yest they got the proxies and everything. [07:36]
mircea_popescu working on bringing all back online. [07:36]
mircea_popescu there's a forum post the girl made summing up everything [07:36]
SpNg mircea_popescu: seriously? wtf? you have a link to the post? [07:36]
mircea_popescu ok 1 sec [07:37]
SpNg any public motive? [07:37]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1598165#msg1598165 [07:37]
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mircea_popescu i dunno dood, god knows i'm well loved and i can't think of anyone or anything that'd have it in for me. [07:37]
SpNg haha. love it. [07:38]
BingoBongo Maybe Coinlab, You just debuted that OIX thing that kind of threatened to replace MT Gox spot... Though you presented it more modestly. [07:38]
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mircea_popescu BingoBongo maybe. [07:38]
mircea_popescu tho tbh... what diff would it make to anyone if its gox spot or oix or a random number coming out of a hat. [07:39]
mircea_popescu as long as it's the consensus it's as good as any other, for a service provider. [07:39]
BingoBongo I mean the girl's been hammering the Gox is dead mantra and some noobs seem to be trusting her for a change. You might have survived the game long enough that people start to assume you're legit. [07:40]
mircea_popescu i think the legit part came in a while ago. [07:40]
mod6 ;;gpg info mircea_popescu [07:40]
gribble User 'mircea_popescu', with keyid 8A736F0E2FB7B452, fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Jul 22 05:39:10 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=mircea_popescu . Currently not authenticated. [07:40]
mircea_popescu and the girl's been hammering the what ?! [07:40]
mod6 july 22, 2011 [07:40]
BitHub hammering BitHub [07:41]
mod6 that's been a while now, longer than most of us [07:41]
BitHub u* [07:41]
BingoBongo The Coinlab buying Gox's USD book threatens Gox's sustainability angle [07:41]
BitHub :B [07:41]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo im not even sure they seriously want the #1 spot. [07:41]
BitHub Bingo incorrect [07:41]
BingoBongo Ah, that's just my reading. [07:41]
BitHub they're are many peeps many working on ways for americans to get around coinlab into gox [07:41]
mircea_popescu but im pretty sure nothing was bought. [07:41]
mod6 ;;bc,tslb [07:42]
gribble Time since last block: 19 minutes and 16 seconds [07:42]
mod6 of course [07:42]
BitHub i think you'll see a lil bump but gox should be okey :) [07:42]
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BingoBongo I dunno yCombinator has all of that renting apartments out to methheads money Mircea, it was probably either bought, hyped, or humiliated. I don't think Gox was forced, but I say this with a low degree of confidence. [07:44]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo i'm with pigeons on that score : [07:44]
BingoBongo BitHub I trust it will be smooth, but the newbs opions shape the shouting [07:44]
mircea_popescu mtgox dispensed itself of the liabilitous us book [07:45]
mircea_popescu quite ellegantly at that. [07:45]
BingoBongo Coinlab probably though it was a bargain [07:45]
mircea_popescu it's how these things usually work. [07:46]
mircea_popescu after the french fiasco they certainly didn't feel the need for a replay, so. [07:46]
mircea_popescu it's a win-win : the noobs get bragging rights (which they don't know how to use, but hey, youth), mtgox gets out of some stick. [07:47]
mircea_popescu the us public becomes even more underserved, isolated, ghettoized [07:47]
mircea_popescu but then again that's unavoidable. [07:47]
BingoBongo Gox never really had the staff or skill to handle the low information customers [07:47]
mircea_popescu moreover, there's some lessons being learned here. everyone wants to be more like mpex. [07:48]
BitHub be nice is there was something just as big or popular as mtgox [07:48]
BitHub at least 4 places [07:48]
BitHub not good to depend just on mtgox? [07:48]
mircea_popescu maybe they'll crop up. [07:49]
mircea_popescu the thing is tho, the net result of mtgox's however we call it, incompetence, being stretched too thin [07:49]
mircea_popescu is that otc trade exploded,. [07:49]
BingoBongo ANd that's the crucial difference from 2011 [07:49]
mircea_popescu they have been bleeding market share month by month by month. by now i wouldn't even bet they do a third. [07:49]
mircea_popescu in 2011 they had 80% hands down [07:50]
mircea_popescu this of course becomes problematic for pricing options. [07:50]
mod6 ;;bc,tslb [07:51]
gribble Time since last block: 27 minutes and 56 seconds [07:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+] [07:51]
mod6 hardy fuckin har miners [07:51]
BitHub so is mpex going to do its own gox? :D [07:51]
mircea_popescu And thus it came to pass that the splendid son of bright-minded Keleos, [07:51]
mircea_popescu Dêmophôn, who was born to well-girded Metaneira [07:51]
mod6 cross your fingers and pray to dog [07:51]
mircea_popescu well girded lol. that's a woman i'd like to meet. [07:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4999988 BTC [+] [07:52]
mircea_popescu BitHub nope [07:52]
mod6 awe [07:52]
mircea_popescu it's not a business i know anything about whatsoever. [07:52]
mircea_popescu nor do i think it has much future [07:52]
BitHub and that's stopped you before? [07:52]
BitHub lulz [07:52]
mircea_popescu BitHub yea ? [07:52]
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BitHub meh fiats [07:53]
mircea_popescu accincta. [07:54]
mircea_popescu do you suppose they meant tits ? [07:54]
mircea_popescu or ass ? [07:54]
BitHub hehe [07:55]
mod6 this next block should be sizeable [07:55]
BitHub its such a good word, i use it for slang all the time [07:55]
mod6 but its a 250k limit so the joke's on me LOL [07:56]
mircea_popescu i never understood how that 250k limit got to be there [07:56]
BingoBongo mod6 I would bet my bet makes it in this next block... [07:56]
mod6 yeah, it should [07:56]
mod6 mircea_popescu: yeah, that seems pretty strange to me now. [07:56]
Bowjob 1 TB limit [07:56]
Bowjob raise dat limit [07:56]
mircea_popescu mod6 and you see, here's the problem : [07:57]
mircea_popescu recently i discovered the way bitcoind works is all quirky and based on assumptive limitations like that. [07:57]
mircea_popescu im starting to think one or several idiots can't code [07:57]
mircea_popescu and just write magic numbers everywhere [07:57]
mircea_popescu never heard of code and data sepparation etc. [07:57]
mod6 do you believe there should be a block size limit at all? [07:58]
BingoBongo Another point for SD over most miners, BitcoinJ isn't as poorly coded as BitcoinD [07:58]
mircea_popescu mod6 well, that's moot. there was one to begin with. [07:58]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo i've never read it/used it [07:59]
mod6 oh... it seems to me that if 1 billion people send 1 satoshi in 5 years, it could be a 10gb block... who cares, process it [07:59]
mod6 maybe im just retarded [07:59]
mod6 i have been hit in the head a lot :S [08:00]
mircea_popescu mod6 the problem here tho is that bitcoin as it is is bitcoin as it is. [08:00]
mircea_popescu if i get married to you on the understanding that you always wear red underwear [08:00]
mircea_popescu as stupid as that may turn out to be, it's still in the fucking contract [08:00]
BingoBongo mircea_popescu it still follows many of the arbitrary limits (because bitcoind), but the code organization is much better. Kind of sad because well, Java. [08:00]
mod6 right, so yeah, they wrote it in, no going back. [08:01]
mircea_popescu now, the only way to change something like that is the way gavin proposed it [08:01]
mircea_popescu ie, "let they who have anything to lose decide where it should be" [08:01]
mircea_popescu they who have anything to lose are, of course, the miners. so a system where miners vote somehow on standard block size may be a replacement, maybe. [08:01]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo ya srsly. why the fuck do these people make these choices. [08:02]
mircea_popescu ruby on rails. java. what the fuck. [08:02]
mircea_popescu maybe it's a bad idea for coders to be allowed to chose their language. [08:02]
mod6 na, gotta be able to pick the right tool for the job... but that doesn't always mean that the guy will make the best choice [08:03]
mod6 i can still use a butter knife as a screwdriver [08:03]
mod6 but its not best... im just retarded [08:03]
BingoBongo WordPress and a watch only wallet powered by ArmoryD is probably how I'd write a bitcoin site if I had to. [08:03]
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mod6 yeah, wow. im blown away by some of this. how did I not zero in on these things? [08:04]
mod6 its like punching myself in the dick [08:04]
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mod6 ;;bc,tslb [08:04]
gribble Time since last block: 41 minutes and 42 seconds [08:04]
mod6 lol [08:04]
Bowjob s;;ticker [08:06]
Bowjob ;;ticker [08:06]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50000, Best ask: 42.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 42.50000, 24 hour volume: 78229.70545564, 24 hour low: 40.11000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.23642 [08:06]
BingoBongo Honestly the miners'll probably roll with whatever, making the margins work is their business. Let the pool operators cap block sizes and open up the daemon for everyone else. [08:06]
BingoBongo mod6 the bet made it in, miracle what a decent transaction fee can do [08:08]
mircea_popescu there's problem with open ended blocksize [08:09]
mircea_popescu for one, the bloat [08:09]
mircea_popescu for the other, security strictly depends on the block being finite. [08:09]
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mircea_popescu and is inverse of the block length [08:09]
BingoBongo pragmatism will lead miners to cap the size of their own blocks unless they want to birth hydrocephalitic orphans [08:10]
mod6 BingoBongo: ok thanks man, i see you got one conf in this block: http://blockchain.info/block-index/355466/00000000000003bbf75f37b8a331938d6fb7dc61addf7bf6a97e95f8c9c0e5f0 [08:10]
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mod6 right, well i guess you dont want people putting in the wayback machine into the blockchain... [08:11]
BingoBongo mod6 and it is the first one. BitBet shows the bet as registered as well [08:11]
mod6 good deal. [08:12]
mircea_popescu http://www.vice.com/read/new-york-cops-will-arrest-you-for-carrying-condoms [08:12]
mircea_popescu progress [08:12]
mircea_popescu have a large soda in a condom [08:12]
mod6 yeah they're a bunch of Fascists [08:13]
mod6 hitler was against very against smoking too [08:13]
mircea_popescu "Maybe some quota-filling cop thinks you look like a whore." [08:14]
BingoBongo Eh, take Canthaxanthin for a few months and walk around New York, some Cop will grab a real good feel. [08:14]
mod6 BingoBongo: 2 confs now... [08:15]
mod6 so at least with your .0025 fee, that was good enough [08:15]
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BingoBongo mod6 It has been my standard fee for about a month now. I'm not patient enough to send with less. [08:16]
BingoBongo Even on small transactions it is cheaper than a wire [08:18]
mod6 *nod* [08:19]
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mircea_popescu what's that one do ? [08:20]
BingoBongo Canthaxanthin is a tanning pill [08:20]
mod6 lol [08:21]
mircea_popescu a [08:21]
mod6 ok gentlemen. [08:21]
mircea_popescu 10 cents. seems legit. [08:21]
mircea_popescu http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/dita-von-teese-stuns-first-ever-3-d-175606524.html [08:21]
mircea_popescu no, she's not baring cunt. it's worse. [08:22]
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*hanbot* ? [08:30]
*hanbot* hi [08:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+] [08:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00072776 = 5.9312 BTC [-] [08:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00075 = 3.8625 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.96000001 BTC [-] [08:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-] [08:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [08:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24998 BTC [-] [08:41]
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Rick__ When will you fix MPEx [08:56]
mircea_popescu hi Rick__ [08:57]
mircea_popescu hang on for a minute here. [08:57]
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mircea_popescu $post ew4aaH8L [09:00]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/gZhCDu2b [09:00]
ZedsterX I just got up to having my comp hacked....so what is your sitch now MP? [09:01]
mircea_popescu $depth [09:02]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/7iJS63TY [09:02]
mircea_popescu $vwap [09:02]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached [09:02]
mircea_popescu heh [09:02]
smickles wtf?!! [09:02]
smickles i'm pro yo! [09:02]
ZedsterX anyone else in the channel have problem with attacks on their comp last night? [09:02]
mircea_popescu ok so! what you folks see here is a historical moment. [09:02]
mircea_popescu mpexbot is capable of proxing mpex trade server now. [09:03]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Error: "is" is not a valid command. [09:03]
mircea_popescu cute. [09:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+] [09:04]
ZedsterX i guees not thx [09:04]
smickles for watever reason mpexbot's pro pastebin feature of posting >25 posts per day hasn't been enabled yet [09:04]
Rick__ so what's mpexbot? [09:04]
mircea_popescu Rick__ it is a method of talking to mpex that can not be ddosed [09:05]
mircea_popescu as it has no known ip. [09:05]
mircea_popescu now, mpex infrastructure is being upgraded, and it will be back sometime today. [09:05]
Rick__ okay,understand a bit [09:05]
Rick__ Okay cool [09:05]
Rick__ so many computer things that I dont understand [09:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1337 @ 0.00075 = 1.0028 BTC [+] [09:06]
mircea_popescu Rick__ :) [09:06]
BitHub 1337 [09:06]
mircea_popescu ok so, im closing the ordering now, because i don't want inconsistencies. this is all testnet stuff. [09:06]
mircea_popescu but the good news is here to stay. mpexbot. [09:07]
BitHub is it hard to make a ticker from your api mircea? [09:07]
mircea_popescu worst case scenario just moved to "if 10 Gb pipe isn't enough to stop ddos, we just trade via mpexbot" [09:08]
mircea_popescu BitHub not really an api but still, i don't think so, it's all json after all. [09:08]
BitHub okey, hopefully i can feature a mpex ticker on my site soon, if its okey with you of course [09:09]
mircea_popescu surely. [09:09]
BitHub :) sweet [09:10]
Rick__ so what's the s.dice price now? [09:10]
Rick__ what command can I use to check the price [09:10]
mircea_popescu Rick__ the price hasn't appreciably changed since trade has been locked for the past ~12 hours [09:11]
mircea_popescu the PTs trade about the same levels. [09:11]
mircea_popescu !ticker btct gsdpt [09:12]
assbot [BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.00596 / 0.00599 / 0.00599 (92 shares, 0.6 BTC), 7D: 0.00261 / 0.00621 / 0.0065 (28529 shares, 177.2 BTC), 30D: 0.00261 / 0.00621 / 0.00687 (139940 shares, 868.7 BTC) [09:12]
mircea_popescu !ticker havelock sdice [09:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.41510000 / 0.4566318 / 0.51000000 (197 shares, 89.95646538 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.55221757 / 0.68700000 (1696 shares, 936.56099770 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.63685913 / 0.76500000 (8993 shares, 5727.27416254 BTC) [09:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4999988 = 2 BTC [+] [09:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4999988 = 2.5 BTC [+] [09:13]
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Bowjob damn [09:13]
Bowjob shoulda bought some dice shares [09:13]
Bowjob coulda arb'd by now [09:13]
Bowjob lol [09:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49999999 BTC [+] [09:14]
deadweasel lordy they tanked on bitfunder, .004 [09:14]
deadweasel are they higher somewheres else? [09:14]
BitHub jesus [09:14]
BitHub that is low [09:14]
maximian last s.dice trade on mpex was something like 0.0058 [09:14]
maximian it rebounded [09:15]
ZedsterX gotta be in for the long haul and ho-pe or dump [09:15]
deadweasel what should I do with 1600 shares on bitfunder? [09:15]
deadweasel oh that [09:15]
deadweasel hold and hope [09:15]
BitHub i doubt s.dice will be here for the long run [09:15]
BitHub i would dump and pump into jah mining and collect daily divs [09:16]
BitHub that's what i been doin [09:16]
maximian I wouldn't be so sure about that. S.dice is more than just a dice game, it's a brand [09:16]
BitHub a brand> [09:16]
BitHub ? [09:16]
deadweasel i had some jah, was good, but I can't get rid of these sdice. bought at .55 sold at 75, then bought back in at .6 cos I'm still learning, that's why [09:16]
mircea_popescu lol [09:17]
mircea_popescu so then if you sell at .4 you're even money [09:17]
BitHub just get rid of them all deadweasel [09:17]
BitHub and pump it into jah, anything you'll loose you'll make up in the dail divs [09:17]
deadweasel if they are 58 on mpex, know anybody who wants them at .55! [09:17]
deadweasel it's a firesale! [09:17]
maximian yes, building brand awareness is expensive. the value of s.dice's brand awareness justifies the stock price alone. [09:18]
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deadweasel yeah, i'm going for divs only stocks these days. sdice may not make it to the next divs, as it is. the brand may make it through w/out the assets [09:18]
maximian Some big gaming concern is probably going to come in and scoop up s.dice [09:18]
deadweasel exactly, no more bitcoin divs [09:18]
BitHub lul gaming company [09:18]
deadweasel they' [09:18]
ZedsterX who/where is JAH? [09:19]
BitHub the core of the community hates S.DICE [09:19]
maximian An acquisition would be a great exit for all investors [09:19]
BitHub its spam [09:19]
maximian That's not true - some of the core devs, not all [09:19]
BitHub we just had a 5 hour tango convo about this before [09:19]
BitHub sorry some :) [09:19]
maximian There are enough mining pools who will always confirm s.dice transactions [09:19]
deadweasel let's not start this again [09:19]
maximian agreed :) [09:19]
BitHub agreed :) [09:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 39 @ 0.5 = 19.5 BTC [+] [09:20]
BitHub its been a good day, have you seen all the giveaways on otc? [09:20]
BitHub i even got in on the action [09:20]
BitHub gave away some btc for twitter followers heh [09:20]
deadweasel that's good business right now. +1s and followers and likes [09:21]
ZedsterX jah mining is on MPEX? I have never seen this or is it called something else [09:21]
deadweasel bitpride is going to do the same thing as sdice? [09:21]
BitHub yep when i eventually get into full marketing mode i'll pay offering btc tips for peeps who paste their address to me on twitter or fb [09:22]
BitHub :) [09:22]
BitHub better than fb's advertising system [09:22]
deadweasel you should automate it --- mechanical turk for likes. [09:22]
deadweasel real people, can't get around that [09:22]
BitHub ahh i wish i could [09:22]
deadweasel you could [09:22]
BitHub but the coding, programming stuff, me doing it? is like getting the janitor to fly the airplane [09:22]
BitHub instead of a pilot [09:23]
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deadweasel spend some time to interview local college kids for an 'internship'. orjust pay them shit [09:23]
BitHub lul i'm paying a few programmers on here atm, slowly [09:23]
deadweasel until you get bigger then hire a better coder and scrap and redo [09:23]
BitHub it gets exe [09:23]
deadweasel yup [09:23]
BitHub :) [09:24]
deadweasel get the ones from india [09:24]
Namworld ZedsterX: no [09:24]
deadweasel srsly though, expectations of bitpride? [09:24]
Namworld idk about bitpride [09:24]
BitHub um bitpride i was looking at those shares but felt a bit shy [09:24]
ZedsterX Namworld: thx so where is it listed? [09:24]
BitHub its cool its something different but i dont know [09:24]
Namworld I got a few shares for the heck of it. [09:24]
BitHub bitfunder.com [09:24]
deadweasel i'd just rather have my btc going up than my shares going down. [09:25]
Namworld https://bitfunder.com/asset/JAH [09:25]
ZedsterX was buttfunder pointed at me? [09:25]
ZedsterX hehe thx guys [09:25]
maximian mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/7iJS63TY has been removed already [09:25]
BitHub is jah the only onepaying daily divs on BF? [09:25]
mircea_popescu maximian i think they die in 10 minutes [09:25]
BitHub everyone else is weekly or monthly yeah? [09:25]
maximian ah, ok [09:25]
maximian I like the idea… but what if pastebin gets DDoS'd? [09:26]
mircea_popescu $vwap [09:26]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached [09:26]
mircea_popescu heh. [09:26]
maximian that sucks [09:26]
mircea_popescu maximian move to a diff one [09:26]
maximian yeah [09:26]
maximian need a higher limit [09:26]
mircea_popescu maximian it's temporary tho. they've not credited the acct to pro status yet [09:26]
maximian i see [09:26]
BitHub ddos sucks [09:26]
mircea_popescu anyway, the surface keeps growing. [09:27]
BitHub is it really hard to combat it? [09:27]
mircea_popescu now the attacker has to take out all pastebins too ? [09:27]
BitHub or just really expensive? [09:27]
mircea_popescu BitHub it's impossible to combat it, in principle. [09:27]
BitHub shitty [09:27]
mircea_popescu mpex is pretty much the only thing that even has a prayer at it, but otherwise... nope. [09:28]
BitHub ahh yep true [09:28]
mircea_popescu they ARE expensive to do tho, so in a sense a self limiting condition [09:28]
Rick__ when will be the new version of bitvps's website on? [09:28]
mircea_popescu Rick__ today. [09:28]
mircea_popescu o sorry [09:28]
BitHub any idea who's behind it? [09:28]
mircea_popescu i thought you were asking about mpecx [09:28]
mircea_popescu BitHub nope [09:28]
Rick__ o,hehe [09:28]
BitHub bounty time? [09:28]
Rick__ I have been waiting the new bitvps for a month [09:29]
Rick__ they always say soon [09:29]
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Bowjob " * Show your support in asking the MPOE exchange where the S.DICE security is located, to de-list the security until the problem is addressed." [09:29]
BitHub free membership and 5btc to whoever finds [09:29]
Bowjob guys a huge dump is happening [09:29]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150493.0 [09:30]
Bowjob http://coinlab.com/ [09:30]
* BitHub pressures mircea [09:31]
maximian that misterbigg guy is a little slow [09:31]
Bowjob just increase the min bet [09:31]
mircea_popescu maximian he;s a funny guy. he was active in the s.dice thread back in august [09:31]
Bowjob 0.1 BTC per bet or gtfo [09:32]
mircea_popescu then the girl found out about his dirty past [09:32]
mircea_popescu so he took a break [09:32]
mircea_popescu i see he's back now [09:32]
maximian hehheh…I wonder why he bothers [09:32]
Bowjob well, it took like over an hour to confirm my tx last night [09:32]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is where the cool kids are. hard to stay away [09:32]
mircea_popescu Bowjob i had some quwued for 6. [09:32]
Bowjob damn [09:32]
Bowjob lol [09:32]
Bowjob imo we need a compromise. this blockchain bloat is annoying [09:33]
deadweasel can i push from bitfunder to havelock? [09:33]
Bowjob how about increasing the min bet on all dice games [09:33]
Bowjob 0.1 or gtfo [09:33]
Bowjob that seems reasonable [09:33]
deadweasel i like that idea, until BTC is worth $100, 1000 [09:33]
BitHub it wouldn't be that hard to get s.dice shut down [09:33]
BitHub i mean really [09:33]
BitHub they're based in usa right? [09:34]
deadweasel I think Sdice needs to handle the issue on their end, do their own gambling fork. [09:34]
maximian I do like all this s.dice exposure… being talked about is what keeps it on top [09:34]
deadweasel i dunno I'm not a dev, [09:34]
BitHub yeah its good pr for sure [09:34]
deadweasel anyway, how could I get my SDICE from bitfunder to havelock? [09:34]
Namworld They could easily take bitcoin deposits and have a fork for the sole purpose of calculating lucky numbers, nay? [09:35]
BitHub i just hope s.dice pays taxes [09:35]
Namworld giving a fork balance that can be cashed out... inconvenient tho [09:36]
BitHub for their sake [09:36]
mircea_popescu Namworld nay [09:36]
Namworld I don't know about that. [09:36]
mircea_popescu it wouldn't be trustworthy. [09:36]
deadweasel yeah, i don't know. I have no solutions. just shrinking asset value. [09:37]
smickles gaaw, wtf are these people on about, do the really thing some script,ajax heavy site would do better against a sustained ddos than a few
[09:37]
mircea_popescu which people ? [09:38]
Bowjob the dice share holders will be opposed to delisting their shares [09:38]
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Bowjob wtf is mrbig thinking [09:38]
smickles people like that mrbig and such [09:38]
mircea_popescu define thinking. [09:38]
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mircea_popescu smickles the stupid want everything remade in their image [09:38]
mircea_popescu that such nonsense would require throwing away the edges doesn't worry them : they don't know what those are anyway [09:39]
smickles srsly, that was what I came back to when i went to the forum for the first time in a while [09:39]
smickles "grinds my gears" so to speak [09:39]
Bowjob the tx fees are there on top of the house edge yeah [09:40]
smickles and all the chuckleheads talking about raising the blocksize [09:40]
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smickles yogs! all of them yogs! [09:40]
mircea_popescu lol [09:41]
mircea_popescu now imagine how bitcoin would work if it were you know... like fiat [09:41]
mircea_popescu where the mobile vulgus actually had power. [09:41]
mircea_popescu it's kind of interesting how this all worked out btw. the -otc and forum, home of the unwashed masses, all revolutionary and shit. the -assets, where the landed gentry naturally gathers, all conservative. [09:42]
mircea_popescu apparently all political history is contained within people themselves. [09:43]
smickles human nature at work [09:43]
BitHub so we're making history right now? [09:49]
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mircea_popescu well history is made all the time [09:52]
BitHub yeh but none of it really matters [09:55]
BitHub especially before the internet was born, real pointless stuff [09:55]
mircea_popescu hehe [09:55]
BitHub i've liked how things have played out so far but are we about to see a real dark turn in the road? [09:56]
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mircea_popescu always the question. [09:56]
BitHub hmmm [09:57]
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OneMiner The whole issue is wildly overblown. Some extra action will be taken to penalize spammy transactions and the blocksize always had to go up at some point. Not right now though, I think. [10:03]
maximian the issue is very polarizing for some reason [10:04]
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maximian did mpexbot get ddos'd too?! [10:05]
OneMiner It's all the anarchists railing about the injustice (nay TYRANNY) of the concept that the blockchain shouldn't contain an unlimited amount of garbage. [10:05]
OneMiner Bah, I need to stop phrasing it that way. I'm not doing any good with this noise. [10:06]
maximian unlimited garbage is a problem, and needs to be dealt with [10:06]
OneMiner It will be worked out, I'm sure people will be upset for a while. But when the sun rises the next day things will look brighter. [10:07]
maximian agreed [10:07]
maximian the drama is compelling, hence the topic goes on and on [10:07]
mircea_popescu maximian haha nah [10:07]
mircea_popescu OneMiner the problem is the definition, of course. [10:08]
mircea_popescu selecting what is garbage is an overstretch of the licenses granted. [10:09]
OneMiner We feed on it right? Here we are trying to adopt a new currency, pretty much out of the blue. Right away we are overly invested relative to the rest of the world. We are all a bit nutty. [10:09]
mircea_popescu or in other words, the president don't have that authority. [10:09]
*hanbot* gmorning [10:09]
mircea_popescu http://thebotnet.com/guides-and-tutorials/49828-how-to-access-the-hidden-wiki/ [10:09]
mircea_popescu that first post is hysterical. [10:09]
OneMiner mircea_popescu Except in this case we do have the authority. It's a collective as opposed to unilateral action. [10:10]
mircea_popescu "a collective" is scarce basis for authority. [10:10]
OneMiner What would be your standard? [10:10]
OneMiner We all choose which clients to run right? There's the vote right there. [10:10]
mircea_popescu unless you get your subject to agree with you, there's no basis. [10:10]
mircea_popescu sure. [10:10]
OneMiner Bam, problem solved. [10:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.5 = 13 BTC [+] [10:11]
mircea_popescu if it actually was solvable that way therer wouldn't be all the whining. [10:11]
mircea_popescu the problem is tghat there's no problem, and random selection of idiots are trying to manufacture one for poluitical reasons. [10:11]
mircea_popescu which is ridiuclous, but hey, americans. [10:11]
OneMiner Well... It WILL be solved that way and there STILL will be whining. [10:11]
mircea_popescu thats how much they can do. [10:11]
OneMiner It's ok though. The alt coins proove that there is no absolute authority. Miners each have a choice of what transactions to include, the world keep turning. [10:13]
mircea_popescu indubitably. [10:13]
mircea_popescu it's funny tho, because in real world politics people consider the media's focusing on margianl nonissues as signs of some sort of conspiracy. [10:13]
mircea_popescu yet in bitcoin there's no media, and yet in bitcoin people focus on marginal nonissues instead of facing the hard stuff. like fixing the damned client. [10:14]
mircea_popescu no conspiracy. just... the nature of the human herd. [10:14]
OneMiner Cool. I just wanted to pop in with that PSA, the topic is on everybodies mind. :P I've been speaking about this all day. I'm going to bed. :) [10:14]
mircea_popescu nn [10:14]
Namworld Damn... MPEx needs to come back up. I want to put some orders in =/ [10:15]
OneMiner I don't hold their views against them. The details do matter. Maybe it's the need for sleep but I can sympathize to a degree. [10:15]
OneMiner nn [10:16]
maximian I have mpex withdrawal myself [10:16]
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smickles $vwap [10:17]
mpexbot smickles: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached [10:17]
smickles scumbag pastebin [10:18]
mircea_popescu eh wtf is with them ppls. [10:18]
smickles they have an excellent business model [10:18]
smickles 1. take you money [10:18]
mircea_popescu ya. charge and don't deliver [10:18]
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Namworld What's the new time estimates on MPEx availability? [10:40]
Namworld Should I just go sleep and come back tomorrow or is it almost done? [10:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.0342 BTC [+] [10:41]
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ZedsterX looks like time for bed [10:47]
Namworld yeah [10:48]
Namworld Nothing else to do. [10:48]
Namworld Goodbye [10:48]
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mircea_popescu namworld actually imminent [11:00]
mircea_popescu o boy poor guy [11:00]
BitHub hehe [11:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+] [11:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.089 BTC [-] [11:04]
mircea_popescu mpex.coinbr.com [11:06]
mircea_popescu maximian ^ [11:06]
maximian ahhh…. relief [11:06]
maximian ty [11:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.005978 = 0.0179 BTC [-] [11:07]
maximian so this is on the new 10Gb connection? [11:07]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 450 @ 0.18400178 = 82.8008 BTC [-] [11:08]
mircea_popescu ill be around to process withdrawals/deposits for anyone needing. [11:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00195 BTC [+] [11:09]
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jcpham http://jcph.am/2013/03/08/a-letter-to-my-son/ [11:09]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 815 @ 0.13708413 = 111.7236 BTC [-] [11:10]
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mircea_popescu you have a son ?! [11:10]
jcpham youngest bitcoin owner ever [11:10]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 680 @ 0.11119696 = 75.6139 BTC [-] [11:10]
mircea_popescu interesting, puts are covering ?! [11:10]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 100 @ 0.06940607 = 6.9406 BTC [-] [11:12]
mircea_popescu learn something every day. [11:12]
jcpham is 2175 the correct year [11:13]
jcpham why can i not verify that [11:13]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 650 @ 0.05313042 = 34.5348 BTC [-] [11:14]
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jcpham also i'm serious about a screenplay [11:16]
jcpham consider that an opening a prologue [11:16]
Namworld I think I'll stay until my MPEx deposit is processed. [11:16]
jcpham opening scene [11:16]
jcpham kid open letter [11:16]
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mircea_popescu ok this is backwards world. [11:17]
mircea_popescu mpex is closed for a day, when it reopens everyone wants to deposit. [11:17]
mircea_popescu i imagined there'd be withdrawals [11:17]
mircea_popescu Namworld hey [11:17]
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mjr__ lol nice [11:17]
Namworld Why? Because someone DDoS it? [11:17]
mircea_popescu i was just saying, poor guy. you went off like 5 minutes before [11:17]
maximian anyone who isn't a nervous nelly knows that it was just a temporary issue [11:18]
Namworld Yeah, well sleeping is not my forte. [11:18]
mircea_popescu hahaha good 1 [11:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 20 @ 0.05216909 = 1.0434 BTC [-] [11:19]
jurov hi Namworld, can i redirect coinbr.com to bitvps, should the need arise? [11:19]
mircea_popescu halelujah some calls. [11:19]
mjr__ mpex is back up? [11:19]
mircea_popescu mjr__ yeh [11:20]
Namworld I'd prefer if you didn't... [11:20]
jurov ;) [11:20]
mircea_popescu lol [11:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 195 @ 0.06938646 = 13.5304 BTC [-] [11:20]
BitHub mpex trading via social media when its down? [11:20]
mircea_popescu BitHub but it's not down. [11:21]
jurov yes, facebook app coming shortly [11:21]
BitHub hehe [11:21]
jurov but twatter wouldn't be bad... if they had sane interface [11:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C270T] 214 @ 0.37437884 = 80.1171 BTC [+] [11:22]
mircea_popescu now those must have been some juicy calls. [11:22]
BitHub yeah that's what im thinking, twitter could come in handy for situations like that [11:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7076 @ 0.00072764 = 5.1488 BTC [-] [11:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00069034 = 31.4105 BTC [-] [11:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42424 @ 0.00067334 = 28.5658 BTC [-] [11:23]
maximian mircea_popescu: so what about http://mpex.co ? [11:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 78 @ 0.00413 = 0.3221 BTC [-] [11:24]
Namworld still being DDoS'ed I presume [11:24]
mircea_popescu maximian there's a lot of hardware being set up. i wanted to get people a lifeline as soon as possible [11:24]
maximian ok [11:24]
maximian not critical anyway [11:24]
mircea_popescu access may be spotty over the next coupla days as everything's being assembled, but hey. [11:25]
mircea_popescu better than stone cold, i would think. [11:25]
maximian as long as trades can be executed, it's all good [11:25]
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mircea_popescu jcpham if your son's called jackson are you jack ? [11:25]
jcpham definitely [11:26]
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jcpham he has the same initals as me so he can assume my identity one day [11:27]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 445 @ 0.08865601 = 39.4519 BTC [-] [11:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00588401 BTC [+] [11:27]
jcpham people can live forever on the internet you know [11:27]
jcpham or at least an identity can [11:27]
Bowjob http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozWGvWpEamU [11:27]
mircea_popescu aha [11:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 750 @ 0.20943788 = 157.0784 BTC [-] [11:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C290T] 389 @ 0.3278143 = 127.5198 BTC [+] [11:34]
Namworld hmm [11:34]
Namworld Who sold those P490T? [11:34]
jurov you did [11:34]
Namworld Nope. [11:35]
Namworld But if someone still wants to sell a few, I'd take some. [11:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [-] [11:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 176 @ 0.00899 = 1.5822 BTC [+] [11:35]
mircea_popescu it seems to me most sales are either deep calls takingprofits [11:36]
mircea_popescu or short plays like puts trying to cut losses [11:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 150 @ 0.009 = 1.35 BTC [+] [11:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.01 = 0.43 BTC [+] [11:36]
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Namworld maybe [11:36]
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mircea_popescu "The properties and procedures of bitcoin can solve real world problems like voting and tokenization, but for now, we use it as money." [11:38]
mircea_popescu "and we bitch like a virgin in hell if anyone explores alternate uses" [11:38]
Schadenfreude What's going on with coinbr? [11:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+] [11:39]
mircea_popescu Schadenfreude what is ? [11:41]
Schadenfreude Ah, figures, they removed https during maintenance [11:43]
mircea_popescu he's moved hosts iirc [11:43]
Bowjob http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/03/06/ultra-exclusive-4-7-million-lamborghini-veneno-to-challenge-ferrari-and-mclaren/ [11:50]
Bowjob I'll pay maybe 50 bitcoins for that [11:50]
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mircea_popescu lol [11:56]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 225 @ 0.20947704 = 47.1323 BTC [+] [12:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 85 @ 0.23623458 = 20.0799 BTC [-] [12:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200000 @ 0.00075 = 150 BTC [+] [12:10]
Bowjob http://www.pinballcoin.com/# [12:12]
Bowjob this looks fun [12:12]
Bowjob lol [12:12]
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error4733 haha 11 fail on pinballcoin [12:23]
Bowjob what happened on 11 [12:23]
Bowjob i didnt see it [12:23]
Bowjob lol [12:23]
Bowjob still pending [12:23]
Bowjob mhm [12:23]
error4733 12 same [12:23]
Bowjob do you see it if i spam the free button? [12:23]
mircea_popescu Up to 17.5 million RBS banking group customers were left without their money last night as the bank’s systems crashed. [12:24]
error4733 and me ? [12:24]
Bowjob Mhm, is the free button provably fair [12:24]
Bowjob i seem to lose a lot [12:24]
Bowjob lol [12:24]
Bowjob shouldnt i win a lot on the free button [12:25]
Namworld the center stuff have way more paths leading to them than others... assuming each spot has the actual odds the same as if the coin had 50% falling either side of each nail. [12:25]
Bowjob i hit a 5 [12:27]
error4733 cool, add then with all your imaginary coin [12:28]
Bowjob mhm, i hit the free button 104 times, i made my browser slow to a crawl [12:28]
jurov finally managed to sneak into my bitvps vps.. [12:28]
jurov just did mount / -f -o remount,ro ; dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/root [12:28]
jurov >:D [12:28]
jurov leave burned ground to them [12:29]
error4733 haaa fail, i just try but with instawallet [12:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-] [12:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00075 = 13.5 BTC [+] [12:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [-] [12:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00801 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 77 @ 0.00725 = 0.5583 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [-] [12:56]
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Chaang-Noi asicminer? :) [13:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 335 @ 0.65 = 217.75 BTC [-] [13:14]
mircea_popescu starting to move a little. [13:14]
mircea_popescu !ticker btctc asicminer-pt [13:14]
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assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.65 / 0.65 (383 shares, 249 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.65004 / 0.655 (625 shares, 406.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.65004 / 0.655 (625 shares, 406.3 BTC) [13:14]
Chaang-Noi price or volume? [13:14]
mircea_popescu volume is what i meant [13:15]
Chaang-Noi otc there was a lot of movement [13:15]
mircea_popescu ah [13:15]
Chaang-Noi more than 10,000 shares sold in the last 2 to 3 weeks [13:15]
mircea_popescu price seems glued to 65 tho [13:15]
Chaang-Noi that was my fault, im fixing that right now [13:16]
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Chaang-Noi only 40 shares left at .65 and then im no longer under contract to sell at that price [13:16]
Chaang-Noi after bfl fails to ship and asicminer gets 50% of the network i think 1.5 btc might trade [13:17]
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Chaang-Noi you still getting ddossed? [13:19]
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TradeFortress well it looks likes it [13:23]
mircea_popescu sure. [13:24]
mircea_popescu use mpex.coinbr.com for now. [13:24]
TradeFortress mircea_popescu, are they just targeting mpex.co and not mpex.coinbr.com? [13:25]
mircea_popescu nah [13:25]
mircea_popescu i used tghe ddos to make a lot of upgrades, not everything's ready to come up online [13:26]
mircea_popescu but i wanted to open up trade for people, so [13:26]
mircea_popescu sorta midway solution for now. [13:26]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 675 @ 0.15947462 = 107.6454 BTC [-] [13:30]
mircea_popescu Ukto i notice you're conspicuously absent https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1599582#msg1599582 [13:35]
mircea_popescu and wtf is going on in these people's heads, they're simultaneously arguing which exchanges should list and delist s.dice [13:35]
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mircea_popescu what is this, the dictature of the proletariat or someshit ?! who even asked them. [13:35]
Namworld Why is the return amount needed on losses? [13:37]
Namworld the 1 satoshi or so outputs by S.DICE? [13:37]
BitHub bitcoin isn't a dictatorship? [13:37]
Namworld Can't Erik remove those? I don't see much point anyway. You can check your lucky number regardless... If you don't win, don't confirm by sending 1 satoshi? [13:38]
Ukto heh [13:40]
Ukto mircea_popescu: they are just going overkill [13:40]
Ukto it wont happen [13:40]
Ukto I was talking to Erik the other day [13:40]
Ukto yesterday? day before [13:41]
* Ukto eyes the time [13:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4600001 = 2.3 BTC [-] [13:41]
Ukto not worth posting [13:41]
Namworld No, but is the 1 satoshi return on loss needed? [13:41]
Namworld Seems that part could be killed at least [13:41]
mircea_popescu Namworld i guess maybe that is in fact superfluous [13:43]
mircea_popescu i have no idea why they do it this way. [13:43]
Ukto mircea_popescu: is erik even under any kind of permentant "cant just up and move" contract with mpex anyways? [13:43]
mircea_popescu yes. [13:43]
Ukto how to enforce? [13:44]
mircea_popescu some people stick to their contracts ? [13:44]
mircea_popescu what enforce. [13:44]
Ukto i mean, seems a bit draconian ? [13:44]
mircea_popescu why ? [13:44]
Ukto "you can never leave" [13:44]
Ukto i dunno [13:44]
TradeFortress mircea_popescu, yet BF does the 2nf most volume [13:44]
mircea_popescu Ukto if you think about it the only practical effect it has is it prevents accounting becoming a mess a la asicminer. [13:45]
mircea_popescu or whatever other post-glbse assets [13:45]
* Ukto points to bvps [13:45]
Ukto it worked fine there [13:45]
Namworld SD offers a lookup tool to check your lucky numbers anyway. If you lose, you can see it from the tool. [13:45]
mircea_popescu i didn't get that impression. [13:45]
Ukto Namworld ? [13:45]
mircea_popescu even with the relatively few shareholders. [13:45]
Namworld A lookup search box should be palced prominently on SD [13:46]
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Ukto Namworld: join the conversation for a sec pls :P [13:46]
Namworld If you don't win, don't reply with a 1 satoshi transaction [13:46]
mircea_popescu Namworld i dunno, did erik even say at any point why they're sending it that way ? [13:46]
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Namworld no... I guess so people know the bet has been processed? [13:47]
Namworld and that they lost? [13:47]
TradeFortress Namworld, people want to know if they won or not [13:47]
Namworld You can check that without a transaction... that's the point [13:47]
Namworld The 1 satoshi "You lose" transaction is kind of pointless. [13:47]
mircea_popescu well it does give closure on the spot [13:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 40 @ 0.65 = 26 BTC [-] [13:48]
mircea_popescu maybe that's what it was. [13:48]
Chaang-Noi ahh i was going to buy them shares [13:48]
TradeFortress It worked pretty well in the early ages [13:48]
TradeFortress Maybe it's due for a change now. [13:48]
mircea_popescu ya, possibly something that's no longer needed [13:48]
mircea_popescu has erik commented on the thing at all ? [13:48]
Namworld Not sure... [13:48]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 105 @ 0.05283354 = 5.5475 BTC [-] [13:48]
Namworld I don't want to read 1 billion forum posts and stupidities just to find if Erik ever considered/commented [13:49]
mircea_popescu heh yeah. [13:49]
mircea_popescu im not sure what their point is anyway. "unspendable" ?! [13:49]
mircea_popescu well holly molly, if 1 satoshi is unspendable then what are we doing here [13:50]
mircea_popescu basically bitcoin will die a thermic death [13:50]
mircea_popescu of satoshi [13:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+] [13:51]
mircea_popescu how come colored coins are spendable but satoshi aren't ? isn't this exactly the same thing ? [13:51]
mircea_popescu perhaps im missing something. [13:51]
TradeFortress it bloats the unspent inputs [13:52]
mircea_popescu ok [13:52]
mircea_popescu but there must be a mechanism to reclaim those [13:52]
mircea_popescu otherwise we slowly leak btc [13:52]
Namworld apparently not... 1 satoshi takes more fees to transact than the satoshi itself. [13:54]
Namworld and people tend to exclude 1 satoshi transactions [13:54]
mircea_popescu interesting [13:54]
Namworld I guess that's mostly that. Not that it's actually impossible to try to send it without any fee. [13:54]
Bowjob http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19utdu/hey_rstarcraft_its_my_7th_cake_day_and_youre_my/ [13:55]
Bowjob Free 1 dollar to everyone [13:55]
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Bowjob just commen [13:55]
Bowjob lol [13:55]
mircea_popescu Namworld if they get to be old enough don't they become free ? [13:55]
Chaang-Noi have some dust in wallet, send to dice for lulz to get rid of it, win under12000 lol [13:56]
mircea_popescu you can't really spend specified inputs can you [13:56]
mircea_popescu or are you using the pythin toolbox [13:56]
TradeFortress mircea_popescu, any output smaller than 0.01 requires fee [13:57]
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TradeFortress so you can't send 1 satoshi. must send a million 1 satoshi inputs and the size of TX will make fees kill [13:58]
mircea_popescu TradeFortress days destroyed ruyles don't appply ? [13:58]
TradeFortress nope. [13:58]
mircea_popescu aha [13:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.005977 BTC [-] [13:58]
Namworld I see [13:58]
mircea_popescu i wonder why ? [13:58]
mircea_popescu more of the same magic number business i guess [13:58]
TradeFortress It's to apply a penalty to people who try to bloat the blockchain [13:59]
Namworld I believe in making hardblocks [13:59]
mircea_popescu i don't care so much what people intend to do TradeFortress [13:59]
mircea_popescu the point is that serious coders don't use magic numbers. [13:59]
Namworld and prunning the blockchain [14:00]
TradeFortress then be a miner and choose which TXes to accept :) [14:00]
mircea_popescu heh [14:00]
mircea_popescu but its more of a codingissue [14:00]
mircea_popescu how did they come up with 0,01 ? [14:00]
mircea_popescu why not e / 100 [14:00]
mircea_popescu why not fifty bitcoins [14:01]
TradeFortress because a small group of coders decided on it. a customizable fee system would be better [14:01]
TradeFortress set your own fee policy. [14:01]
mircea_popescu stupid way to code, this. [14:01]
mircea_popescu and for that matter, if you're trying to apply a penalty to people who tryt to bloat the blockchain [14:02]
TradeFortress it could (not saying it is) be based on the cost it takes to process/store the TX [14:02]
mircea_popescu you want to impose a fee on txs that have small OUTPOUTS [14:02]
mircea_popescu not small inputs. [14:02]
TradeFortress mircea_popescu, it is small outputs! [14:02]
mircea_popescu if it is small outputs [14:03]
TradeFortress mircea_popescu, any output smaller than 0.01 requires fee [14:03]
mircea_popescu then i can use 10 satoshi inputs just fine [14:03]
TradeFortress sure, but you need tons of them, and kb fee. [14:03]
TradeFortress either way the fee system isn't optimal [14:03]
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mircea_popescu okay, im off. later all [14:10]
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Namworld later [14:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4600001 = 2.3 BTC [-] [14:24]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [21:54]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/ [21:54]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Mar 7 18:31:41 2013 [21:54]
mircea_popescu hey all! [21:54]
Namworld Hello [21:55]
Namworld not much trading going on right now [21:55]
deadweasel howdy [21:55]
mircea_popescu i guess not huh [21:56]
jcpham http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19wq78/my_horrible_bitinstantzipzapmoneygram7eleven/ [22:00]
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smickles i guess pizza is what we should stick too [22:07]
smickles er, to [22:07]
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kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149892.0 [22:14]
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mircea_popescu im preparing a little bomb over here. [22:17]
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mircea_popescu blockchain.info down too huh [22:18]
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pizzaman1337 oh noes, http://mpex.coinbr.com/ just died [22:20]
topace zomg bitcoin is exploding! [22:20]
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Namworld topace: what? [22:21]
topace mpex down, blockchain.info down, block softlimit filesize reached... [22:22]
topace BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE [22:22]
mircea_popescu o srsly ?! [22:23]
kakobrekla ass related http://heahea.org/img/743-Toilet_tissue_promotion.jpg [22:23]
mircea_popescu it's fine dood [22:23]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 what are you talkin' about you troll you [22:23]
pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: it's back now [22:23]
mircea_popescu you prolly had a dns flicker [22:24]
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deadweasel you're not kiddin. blockchain is undermaintenance [22:24]
mircea_popescu i wasn;t,no [22:24]
kakobrekla its all misterbiggs fault! [22:24]
topace what should mpex.co resolve to ? [22:24]
deadweasel that mofo [22:24]
deadweasel it should resolve to be a profitable venture [22:24]
mircea_popescu topace mpex.co nothing yet. mpex.coinbr.com is what you want [22:24]
mircea_popescu also, let me introduce everyone to mpexbot [22:25]
topace yea thats fine here [22:25]
mircea_popescu $help [22:25]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: (help [ ] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [22:25]
mircea_popescu $whois [22:25]
mircea_popescu bah i mean [22:25]
mircea_popescu $vwap [22:25]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/QhtV1Hu5 [22:25]
mircea_popescu $mdepth [22:25]
jurov coinbr.com fully functional nao [22:25]
mircea_popescu lol pastebin is slow [22:26]
mircea_popescu anyway : in case our proxies get taken down, you can use mpexbot to check the json for vwap prices and market depth. [22:26]
mircea_popescu you can also issue orders through it, via $post blabla, where blabla is the url of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order [22:26]
mircea_popescu this functionality is disabled currently for administrative reasons, but can be flipped on at will [22:27]
mircea_popescu this ensures us against trade being taken down via ddos, unless someone manages to ddoss frenode. [22:27]
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mircea_popescu there will be a 2nd bot coming online this weekend, doing roughly the same thing, just for redundancy. [22:27]
jurov and trades by email are supported automatically? [22:27]
jurov or you do the manually? [22:27]
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mircea_popescu trades by email was an absolute lowest level of desperation. [22:28]
mircea_popescu we haven't reached it. [22:28]
jurov ah okay [22:28]
mircea_popescu it's just there as a possibility so people understand that no matter what happens, mpex will trade. [22:28]
mircea_popescu but atm no need for such inconvenience. [22:28]
mircea_popescu any questions ? [22:29]
pizzaman1337 noob question: I've been watching some options books' and I've noticed some have buy/sell orders of 1000, with constantly changing prices. Is someone running a script with those orders, or are they mpex provided or something? [22:29]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 the 1k blocks are mpoebot quoting [22:29]
mircea_popescu ;;rated smickles [22:30]
gribble You rated user smickles on Sat Aug 25 08:39:34 2012, giving him a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: He's been running MPOE.ETF and releasing THE monthly reports, a model for all Bitcoin financial reporting. Also handled k's of BTC as broker for various clients.. [22:30]
pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: is that just to provide liquidity or something? [22:31]
Anduck mircea_popescu: you totally should change the whole MPEX to be used via IRC [22:31]
Anduck -totally- [22:31]
Anduck just hide the ip of the bot [22:32]
Anduck and youre safe from ddos [22:32]
mircea_popescu Anduck ;;ident mpexbot [22:32]
Anduck ;;ident mpexbot [22:32]
gribble Nick 'mpexbot', with hostmask 'mpexbot!~supybot@unaffiliated/smickles/bot/mpexbot', is not identified. [22:32]
Anduck indeed [22:32]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 well, it's part of mpex business. [22:32]
mircea_popescu Anduck when i say mpex is the superior design this is what i mean. [22:33]
pizzaman1337 ok, I see [22:33]
Anduck mircea_popescu: it's far away from superior, sorry. [22:33]
Anduck but hey [22:33]
mircea_popescu indeed. far away in the upwards. [22:33]
Anduck mircea_popescu: wanna know how to really make it superior? [22:33]
Anduck i'll tell you. really. [22:33]
mircea_popescu heh. [22:33]
Anduck the question will be do you have the possibilities to make it happenj [22:33]
Anduck which i guess, no. [22:33]
Anduck but if someone did, it would be superior. [22:34]
Anduck it's totally doable [22:34]
Anduck just that nobody has done it, yet. [22:34]
mircea_popescu so do it. [22:34]
jurov orders by phone [22:34]
jurov lol [22:34]
Anduck colored coins. [22:34]
deadweasel easy, sms via ec2 amazon services sms abilities [22:34]
deadweasel i'm from the south, we don't like colored coins 'round here [22:35]
Anduck make a system based on colored coin basis [22:35]
Anduck it would be totally awesome [22:35]
mircea_popescu Anduck after all the shit about s.dice [22:35]
Anduck and if you can, hire a group to make it happen. [22:35]
mircea_popescu do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins ? [22:35]
mircea_popescu i'd double the blockchain. [22:35]
mircea_popescu this is discussed on trilema, read that article when i get it back online. [22:35]
Anduck but... i saw porn on there :( [22:36]
Anduck well tbh i dont think colored coins would make it worse [22:36]
mircea_popescu who are you to think ? [22:36]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg773413#msg773413 [22:37]
mircea_popescu oops [22:37]
Anduck ok..? [22:37]
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mircea_popescu wrong paste. [22:38]
Anduck yeh i see [22:40]
smickles < mircea_popescu> you can also issue orders through it, via $post blabla, where blabla is the url of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order [22:42]
smickles $help post [22:43]
mpexbot smickles: (post ) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response. [22:43]
smickles $post bi232 [22:43]
mpexbot smickles: Temporarily disabled by reques of the romanian [22:43]
jurov smickles, this i asked about [22:43]
mircea_popescu lmao [22:43]
mircea_popescu jurov this isn;tt email tho is it ?! [22:44]
jurov no i asked smickles earlier why mpexbot doesn't do whole urls [22:44]
mircea_popescu o o [22:44]
smickles basically, because mircea_popescu didn't ask for that [22:44]
mircea_popescu jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot can't be touching random servers [22:45]
mircea_popescu as its ip is secret [22:45]
mircea_popescu it's not that i didn't ask for it, it's that i asked for non-it. [22:45]
jurov ok, we'll see if ppl start running into pastebin limit [22:46]
mircea_popescu pro acct is 25 a year [22:46]
mircea_popescu le bomb : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1601463#msg1601463 [22:47]
jcpham http://vimeo.com/61144193# [22:53]
jcpham something to get involved in finally [22:53]
kakobrekla eh? [22:55]
kakobrekla i dont think newbs should be doing this [22:55]
smickles hmm, 25 pastes per day for an unidentified user, doable [22:55]
kakobrekla id rather make a proxy parser [22:56]
kakobrekla than pay anything [22:56]
kakobrekla there must be some paste something that is not rate limited [22:56]
jurov yes, it's reddit [22:57]
kakobrekla good [22:57]
kakobrekla lets paste the mpex output to reddit [22:57]
kakobrekla let em get ddosed [22:57]
smickles heh [22:57]
smickles how about 4chan [22:58]
deadweasel couldn't you start an IRC channel that was invite only, pw protected, and people could trade with your bot in there? [22:59]
deadweasel that way you keep the rif raf from being able to poke around [22:59]
deadweasel i don't know much about IRC, but I'm sure your own system of IRC networks and servers could manage any load [23:00]
mircea_popescu lets paste the mpex output to reddit <<< thart was considered, and is still on the list :D [23:00]
deadweasel course EC2 doesn't allow IRC servers, not the free ones anyhow [23:00]
mircea_popescu deadweasel the idea isn't to keep the "rifraf" [23:00]
mircea_popescu this is a very heavy political issue and i won't solve it that way. [23:00]
kakobrekla or just push to github [23:01]
kakobrekla i hate github [23:01]
smickles https://gist.github.com/ [23:01]
mircea_popescu well... i don't and i think the attack i've seen could actually blow them offline [23:01]
deadweasel i can see you with half you face painted blue right now, mircea_popescu [23:01]
mircea_popescu lol y blue ? [23:01]
deadweasel "but they will never take our, MPEX!!!!!!" [23:01]
deadweasel braveheart [23:01]
smickles lol [23:02]
ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/8/4080160/hackers-steal-over-12000-of-bitcoins-from-bitinstant [23:03]
ThickAsThieves also wired [23:04]
mircea_popescu haha [23:04]
ThickAsThieves http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/03/digital-thieves-pull-off-12000-bitcoin-heist/?cid=co6246174 [23:04]
deadweasel holy shitsnacks [23:07]
deadweasel social engineering is great [23:08]
deadweasel teaches people to 'trust, but verify' [23:08]
smickles lol, "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my harddrive?" [23:10]
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jcpham PC Load Letter _ wtf does that mean!?! [23:15]
smickles $markov [23:21]
mpexbot pizza is what i mean. [23:21]
smickles lol [23:21]
mircea_popescu capitalize first letter tho [23:22]
Diablo-D3 wtf [23:22]
mircea_popescu also smickles you ever saw seek and destroy, the film ? [23:22]
Diablo-D3 bitinstant got raped? [23:22]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 last week [23:22]
Diablo-D3 heh, didnt hear about that [23:22]
mircea_popescu you don't read trilema enouygh, i tore them a new asshole. [23:23]
Diablo-D3 why did they let that happen [23:23]
Diablo-D3 its not hard to secure a machine [23:23]
mircea_popescu total stupidity. [23:23]
smickles mircea_popescu: i haven't seen that [23:23]
mircea_popescu saw a new unknown email in their dns account [23:23]
mircea_popescu deleted it and went to bed [23:23]
mircea_popescu in the morn herpderp logged into their site as admin [23:23]
mircea_popescu had credentials stolen [23:23]
mircea_popescu made post about how "security focus" [23:23]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yeah, they should have immediately took the site offline [23:23]
mircea_popescu im like omgwtfbbq. wut wut wut ?! [23:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5105 = 1.021 BTC [+] [23:24]
davout bitinstant got hacked [23:24]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 at the fucking least change dns pws, argue with their dns provider, and leave someone to watch that accoutn [23:24]
davout ? [23:24]
mircea_popescu davout yes. [23:24]
mircea_popescu 1 second ima pastebin [23:24]
* davout is heading to trilema [23:24]
Diablo-D3 why did they even have a password for their dns shit? [23:24]
mircea_popescu not properly. [23:24]
Diablo-D3 they should have been using secure certs [23:24]
mircea_popescu site5 bs [23:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3449 BTC [-] [23:24]
smickles anyone know how I can get supybot to send the return of my markov command instead of the 'invalid command' error mesage? [23:25]
smickles if not, i'm going code diving [23:26]
mircea_popescu davout http://pastebin.com/mHYq6g2u [23:26]
davout mircea_popescu: your blog fails to load [23:27]
mircea_popescu which is why i sent you a paste [23:27]
davout which is why I want a refund for your stupid trilema credits [23:27]
davout reading [23:27]
davout popcorn [23:27]
mircea_popescu nuh-uh [23:28]
smickles ButtPlox [23:28]
mircea_popescu i tell you sir strictly no refunds [23:28]
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mircea_popescu why you come here bother me i call the police i tell you [23:28]
smickles davout: i was able to sell some of mine at a profit [23:28]
mircea_popescu ahahaha noway [23:28]
smickles put it on the order book [23:28]
davout smickles: wow [23:28]
mircea_popescu dude im starting to think smickles is that kid [23:28]
davout smickles: which order book [23:28]
mircea_popescu you know, the kid that you take to the park in the stroller, comes back with 3 strollers and a motorbike [23:29]
smickles ;;book "trilema credits" [23:29]
gribble Error: No orders for this currency present in database. [23:29]
smickles aw, mircea_popescu, you flatter me :) [23:29]
mircea_popescu they should elect you president over there [23:30]
davout smickles: haha i guess i'm not really used to the over-the-counter exchange [23:30]
mircea_popescu davout you know it does more trade than mtgox ? [23:30]
mircea_popescu those are the people you need to sell yourself to. [23:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.62 = 16.2 BTC [+] [23:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.62 = 3.24 BTC [+] [23:31]
smickles an easy way to do it is to go to home depot with 5 usd, buy stuff to make a water pipe, construct it and sell it to a pothead for 70 usd [23:31]
mircea_popescu lol [23:31]
davout mircea_popescu: lol fuck you [23:31]
mircea_popescu im not even kidding [23:31]
mircea_popescu (if anyone doens't know, davout is the frenchie that sold bitcoin to the banking system. bitcoin-central.net) [23:31]
smickles you still use that pic of some guitar guy as you forum avitar? [23:32]
mircea_popescu some gypo yeah [23:32]
mircea_popescu then he wonders why he's not got da volume. [23:32]
davout lol [23:33]
mircea_popescu hehe [23:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 1.63 = 13.04 BTC [+] [23:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 87 @ 0.41809214 = 36.374 BTC [+] [23:35]
smickles 21:35 do you have an inknling of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order [23:35]
mircea_popescu smickles that film... you should totally watch it. [23:36]
mircea_popescu some kickass quotes in it [23:36]
smickles 21:35 do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins would make it superior? [23:37]
smickles this is going to get wacky [23:37]
mircea_popescu lmao wtf [23:37]
smickles $markov [23:38]
mpexbot but... i saw porn on there :( [23:38]
mircea_popescu lol [23:38]
mircea_popescu $markov [23:38]
smickles oh, i should open it up to the public [23:38]
smickles one sec [23:38]
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smickles try it now :) [23:39]
mircea_popescu $markov [23:39]
mpexbot i don't know much about IRC, but I'm sure your own system of IRC networks and servers could manage any load [23:39]
mircea_popescu $markov [23:39]
mpexbot 21:35 do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins 'round here [23:39]
smickles woah [23:40]
mircea_popescu should nuke strings that contain his name in <> [23:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000676 = 1.352 BTC [-] [23:40]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1601667#msg1601667 [23:44]
mircea_popescu status update. [23:44]
smickles the forum is unreachable for me [23:47]
pizzaman1337 me too [23:47]
smickles $markov [23:47]
mpexbot who are you talkin' about you troll you [23:47]
mircea_popescu eh no fucking way [23:47]
mircea_popescu brb paste. [23:47]
mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/DVMiCcff [23:48]
pizzaman1337 just loaded for me [23:48]
smickles oh wait. it just had 60 second load times [23:48]
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mircea_popescu derp [23:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.005884 BTC [-] [23:51]
smickles mpexbot: markov is [23:52]
mpexbot is heading to trilema [23:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.679 BTC [-] [23:52]
mircea_popescu smickles "Respondes " is not english btw [23:54]
mircea_popescu you want responds [23:54]
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deadweasel your bot's outta control mp! [23:58]
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mircea_popescu what'd iot do ? [23:59]
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