Forum logs for 08 May 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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Azelphur | BCB: what SEC warning? | [00:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#664942 | [00:01] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [00:01] |
Mats_cd03 | http://youtu.be/dxDbenBTGp0 note the allahu snackbars getting progressively louder | [00:01] |
BCB | Azelphur: "investor alert" http://investor.gov/news-alerts/investor-alerts/investor-alert-bitcoin-other-virtual-currency-related-investments#.U2qfJfk7u-3 | [00:01] |
Mats_cd03 | kinda like car alarms, but fucktarded | [00:02] |
Azelphur | fun | [00:02] |
BCB | My favorite quote “we don’t do any verification” and “we’re not the paperwork police.” | [00:02] |
BCB | Another Trendon Shavers | [00:02] |
BCB | Azelphur: how is the beach? Getting warm there yet? | [00:02] |
Azelphur | BCB: great, nice and warm (But air conditioning), sunshine and beach babes, can't complain. | [00:03] |
BCB | Azelphur: you should set up a live-stream bikini-cam! | [00:03] |
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Azelphur | BCB: I had one for a while, but I don't have anything high resolution enough to see detail :p | [00:04] |
Mats_cd03 | http://www.livingtransformation.ch/index.php/a-history-of-healing/79-science/118-heart-brain | [00:04] |
ozbot | The Heart Brain | [00:05] |
BCB | Azelphur: details are important | [00:05] |
Azelphur | hehe | [00:05] |
Azelphur | BCB: got a friend of mine and aldur1 coming down, gonna raise the collective IQ of the town by a few points. | [00:05] |
BCB | Ha! I bet! | [00:06] |
Azelphur | hehe | [00:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [+] | [00:08] |
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Mats_cd03 | and one for the bucket list: base jumping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtundW1rZ2A | [00:09] |
Mats_cd03 | Aaaand that's all for today | [00:09] |
asciilifeform | Mats_cd03: lol! why does throttle need to be electric again? | [00:10] |
Mats_cd03 | why does everything have to be electric is the better question | [00:10] |
asciilifeform | 'in the future, all chairs shall be electric.' | [00:10] |
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Mats_cd03 | i guess it would be cool if you could electrify my dong | [00:11] |
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Mats_cd03 | erection via BLE | [00:11] |
asciilifeform | Mats_cd03: even this has been done. | [00:12] |
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Mats_cd03 | i live in america, its probably too expensive :( that would be quite a firmware upgrade | [00:13] |
dub | my toyota is plagued by unintented acceleration | [00:13] |
pankkake | try the electrified butt plugs | [00:14] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2744 @ 0.00013 = 0.3567 BTC [-] {3} | [00:16] |
asciilifeform | re: unisys: pediwikia has an interesting summary - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unisys#Controversies | [00:16] |
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ThickAsThieves | https://jlopp.github.io/statoshi/ | [00:18] |
ozbot | Statoshi by jlopp | [00:18] |
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asciilifeform | !up Mats_cd03 | [00:21] |
assbot | Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes. | [00:21] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.041 = 0.369 BTC [+] | [00:24] |
Mats_cd03 | http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/16/terrible-twos-who-stay-terrible/ | [00:28] |
thestringpuller | how do you guys feel about the Pomodoro technique | [00:29] |
thestringpuller | or just about focus techniques in general | [00:29] |
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thestringpuller | never really see too much info on that in this channel | [00:29] |
fluffypony | thestringpuller | [00:29] |
fluffypony | I use pomodoro when I've got too much on my plate | [00:30] |
Mats_cd03 | my focus technique is to get super baked and do work | [00:30] |
fluffypony | otherwise I work on something for 5 minutes and then get distracted by this other thing I need to do | [00:30] |
thestringpuller | yup | [00:30] |
fluffypony | pomodoro is really good for that scenario | [00:30] |
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thestringpuller | pomodoro helps me to output so much more code | [00:30] |
BCB | thestringpuller: bitcoin is over | [00:30] |
thestringpuller | it's even good for meetings | [00:30] |
fluffypony | but outside of that I drop 100mg Provigil in the morning and I'm fine | [00:31] |
thestringpuller | start a pomodoro and force people to stay on topic for at least 25 minutes | [00:31] |
thestringpuller | these kids an provigil | [00:31] |
thestringpuller | isn't that an anti-narcoleptic? | [00:31] |
thestringpuller | like da fuq | [00:31] |
fluffypony | yep pretty much | [00:31] |
Mats_cd03 | i like it but it doesn't help me focus | [00:31] |
thestringpuller | def keeps you awake | [00:32] |
fluffypony | Mats_cd03: I found I was having a nap in the afternoon | [00:32] |
fluffypony | and I didn't like having 2-3 cups of coffee at 2pm | [00:32] |
thestringpuller | i think that might be my first real blog post | [00:32] |
fluffypony | just to keep going | [00:32] |
thestringpuller | how to use the pomodoro | [00:32] |
fluffypony | thestringpuller: do it | [00:32] |
thestringpuller | i have to migrate my blog from tumblr | [00:32] |
thestringpuller | thestringpuller.tumblr.com | [00:33] |
Mats_cd03 | i dont experience much (<25%) cognitive decline after 24 hours when i temper it with provigil across the same period | [00:33] |
Mats_cd03 | iirc this is why usaf pilots are now on provigil regimens instead of amphetamines for long overflight missions | [00:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.041 = 0.492 BTC [+] | [00:34] |
thestringpuller | yea but you still burn out certain receptors for long durations | [00:34] |
fluffypony | Mats_cd03: and it's a gentle lift, not an extreme yank, which is nice | [00:35] |
Mats_cd03 | fluffypony: i too have napped on it, but i consume 50mg during waking periods i use it to avoid developing a tolerance | [00:36] |
fluffypony | Mats_cd03: oh I meant I napped without it | [00:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00085551 = 21.1311 BTC [-] {4} | [00:36] |
fluffypony | when I'm on it I don't nap | [00:36] |
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Mats_cd03 | i remember reading about a poker player consuming ridiculous doses, like close to a gram, because he abused it for so long to gain a perceived edge in training sessions and subsequently tournaments | [00:38] |
fluffypony | :/ | [00:39] |
fluffypony | that's nuts | [00:39] |
Mats_cd03 | its really not terribly special other than the edge case where you need all the cognitive performance you can get while sustaining on low sleep | [00:39] |
thestringpuller | damn i'm going to miss MPOE-PR's writing | [00:40] |
thestringpuller | onto bigger and better things I suppose | [00:40] |
thestringpuller | I'm spending my downtime at work re-reading posts from when I was a n00b | [00:40] |
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Mats_cd03 | you can't train people to operate effectively on low sleep, infanteers have been trying for millennia | [00:40] |
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fluffypony | Mats_cd03: agreed | [00:41] |
fluffypony | my use case is 5-6 hours of sleep a night + focus during waking hours | [00:42] |
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Mats_cd03 | thestringpuller: digitalocean + Ghost (a blogging thingmajig) works pretty well for me | [00:46] |
fluffypony | node.js :/ | [00:47] |
fluffypony | "Node.js is the platform which powers Ghost. Being built on Chrome's JavaScript runtime, makes it fast, scalable, and incredibly efficient." | [00:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.041 = 0.451 BTC [+] | [00:47] |
fluffypony | "because if it's good enough for your browser, it can for realz handle tens of thousands of concurrent connections!" | [00:48] |
Mats_cd03 | o | [00:48] |
Mats_cd03 | idk anything about the web | [00:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.14049999 = 0.562 BTC [+] | [00:49] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 25 @ 0.041 = 1.025 BTC [+] | [00:50] |
Mats_cd03 | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2654794/ | [00:50] |
Mats_cd03 | re: modafinil (provigil) | [00:51] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1348 @ 0.00012925 = 0.1742 BTC [-] {2} | [00:52] |
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BingoBoingo | For blogging the right tool, is usually, probably going to be some wordpress thing. | [00:55] |
BingoBoingo | Then the things you like/dislike about wordpress shape the next choice | [00:55] |
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BingoBoingo | http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/05/07/1539217/tls-13-draft-prepares-to-drop-static-rsa-key-exchange | [00:58] |
ozbot | TLS 1.3 Draft Prepares to Drop Static RSA Key Exchange - Slashdot | [00:58] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [+] | [01:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.041 = 0.369 BTC [+] | [01:06] |
fluffypony | wasn't there a kick up recently about Havelock not actually being registered in Panama? | [01:07] |
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davout | fluffypony: it's actually the reactor pattern that rocks | [01:10] |
fluffypony | davout: then they should pitch it like that | [01:11] |
davout | what? | [01:12] |
fluffypony | davout: they're saying node.js is fast/scalable/efficient because it's powered by a browser technology | [01:13] |
fluffypony | but it's the reactor pattern that rocks | [01:13] |
fluffypony | so they should pitch it like that | [01:14] |
davout | why ? | [01:14] |
davout | if you're a retard that doesn't have a clue you'll take it at face value, if you know what the reactor pattern is and how evented IO is nice you'll read between the lines | [01:15] |
fluffypony | I spose | [01:15] |
davout | see, if marketing was about communicating precise and factual information, then it wouldn't be marketing anymore | [01:15] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-] | [01:16] |
fluffypony | lol | [01:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12432 @ 0.00085799 = 10.6665 BTC [+] | [01:19] |
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pankkake | is it because browser technology or because google? | [01:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-] | [01:20] |
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pankkake | !up Hiro2 | [01:21] |
assbot | Insufficient rights, pankkake, !up yourself on PM first. | [01:21] |
davout | pankkake: because it's derpcentralized | [01:22] |
pankkake | !up Hiro2 | [01:22] |
assbot | Insufficient rights, pankkake, !up yourself on PM first. | [01:22] |
pankkake | bleh | [01:22] |
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pankkake | !up | [01:22] |
assbot | Need a nickname, pankkake. | [01:22] |
pankkake | !up Hiro2 | [01:22] |
assbot | Voicing Hiro2 for 30 minutes. | [01:22] |
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Hiro2 | thank you | [01:22] |
pankkake | :) | [01:23] |
Hiro2 | could anyone tell me why ASICMINER is no longer giving out dividends? | [01:23] |
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Hiro2 | I won passthru from Havelock | [01:23] |
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Hiro2 | own* | [01:23] |
pankkake | as far as I know, there's not enough revenue to | [01:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.041 = 2.05 BTC [-] | [01:23] |
Hiro2 | and ActiveMining? has it been two weeks yet for old shares to be active? | [01:24] |
pankkake | their finances aren't very transparent right now :/ | [01:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 25 @ 0.041 = 1.025 BTC [-] | [01:25] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 28 @ 0.041 = 1.148 BTC [-] {2} | [01:27] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.041 = 0.984 BTC [-] | [01:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00085793 = 16.5152 BTC [-] | [01:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.0425 = 0.5525 BTC [+] | [01:37] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.033 = 0.627 BTC [+] | [01:42] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 49 @ 0.041 = 2.009 BTC [-] | [01:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.4599999 = 2.3 BTC [+] | [01:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10634 @ 0.00085812 = 9.1252 BTC [+] {2} | [01:53] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 277 @ 0.0014 = 0.3878 BTC [+] | [01:57] |
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mircea_popescu |
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mircea_popescu | thestringpuller tumblr is for pronz | [02:08] |
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mircea_popescu | well, they've been going to shit for a while, but the slide is accelerating | [02:14] |
mircea_popescu | !up Visitor | [02:14] |
assbot | Voicing Visitor for 30 minutes. | [02:14] |
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mircea_popescu | activeminer lawl. | [02:14] |
asciilifeform | electric burns of the mucosa << easily confused for electrolytic burns (h2o splits, salt present, hcl. yuck.) to avoid this, use strictly alternating current (no dc bias.) | [02:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 25 @ 0.0425 = 1.0625 BTC [+] | [02:16] |
asciilifeform | (most folks who complain of burns from playing with biostimulators are getting exactly this) | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | right | [02:17] |
ryepdx | Hiro2: Not sure if this went through the first time, as I'm having connectivity issues. The reason (AFAIK) was to raise capital to produce their next-gen miners and chips. The next round of dividends are projected to come out on May 27th, at which point they'll be moving to a monthly dividend schedule. Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg6465166#msg6465166 | [02:17] |
* | mircea_popescu cuts out the .org and adds a dot before lk in that link, to get https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=99497.msg6465166#msg6465166 which readily resolves to https://bitcointa.lk/threads/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it.61268/page-972#post-6169327 on a much better forum. | [02:18] |
ryepdx | mircea_popescu: Thanks for the tip. | [02:19] |
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asciilifeform | so long as you follow this and other safety formulae (all electrodes below the belt) you can get some... interesting results. males, females both. | [02:21] |
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asciilifeform | what results - left as exercise for the alert reader / experimenter. | [02:22] |
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mircea_popescu | !jd mpif | [02:25] |
assbot | Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 164.02224689 BTC; +0.00374863 BTC (+0.0023%) since last check 22h 43m 27s ago. | [02:25] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.041 = 0.369 BTC [-] | [02:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26850 @ 0.0008597 = 23.0829 BTC [+] {2} | [02:33] |
turbo_ac100 | bitcointa.lk firefox addon is down here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bitcointalk/ | [02:34] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/24prud/vertpay_is_doing_the_very_first_vertcoin_based_ipo/ | [02:38] |
mircea_popescu | lol look at fluffypony killing it with teh scamcoin | [02:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00086168 = 9.4785 BTC [+] {2} | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony so opened on feb 8th at 0.025, peaked at .1, then piefaced towards 0.015ish. is it dead ? | [02:44] |
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BingoBoingo | It can still go lower. | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | well sure. .015 is still 150000x a doge. | [02:44] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-] | [02:45] |
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BingoBoingo | I kind of want to see it locked into that ratio with doge as it crashes | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | !up taub | [02:46] |
assbot | Voicing taub for 30 minutes. | [02:46] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust assbot taub | [02:46] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user taub: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=taub | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=taub | Rated since: never | [02:46] |
BingoBoingo | To where You can't trade a single doge for a satoshi | [02:46] |
taub | i suck at using that auth | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | taub you need to get rated by someone in assbot's l2, then id with gribble and pm assbot !up | [02:46] |
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taub | whats assbots l2 oO | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | being rated by people who have been rated by assbot | [02:47] |
taub | does anyone else think hitbtc is faking volume like crazy? | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | with the exception of mpex, everyone is. | [02:47] |
taub | bitfinex and bitstamp seem legit | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | stamp, btc-e, all the play-pretend stock exchanges in history, from glbse onwards, and definitely all the "greatest best first ever" blablas. | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | mtgox faked its volume, too. | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | so did bitcoinica | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | the list doesn't end. | [02:48] |
taub | getting chopped trying to find the end to this slump, buying too early :/ | [02:49] |
taub | i think it's turning soon tho | [02:49] |
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taub | or we go below 380 then srs trouble | [02:49] |
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mircea_popescu | !up toastee | [02:49] |
assbot | Voicing toastee for 30 minutes. | [02:49] |
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mircea_popescu | taub what difference does it make, i still have btc i bought at 2. | [02:50] |
BingoBoingo | Some time in the next week someone's going to be sending me PPUSD, prolly need to start scouting people I can unload them on. | [02:50] |
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BingoBoingo | When that happens, then bitcoin may once again proceed towards moon. | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00086244 = 25.2695 BTC [+] {2} | [02:53] |
taub | china let me down :( | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [02:53] |
BingoBoingo | taub: They let Mao down too. It happens. | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | "CNBC Correspondent, alum @NYUStern (MBA) and @MiamiUniversity, country music & college football enthusiast --- livin' the NYC dream but forever a proud Ohioan" | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | a proud... ohioan ?! you've got to be kidding me | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | they let anyone in nyc these days. | [02:55] |
BingoBoingo | They always have, it's why NYC get a commie mayor. | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | o, i forgot they did that. | [02:56] |
mircea_popescu | i imagine on the mid term nyc will be more like paris huh | [02:56] |
BingoBoingo | Or Mogadishu, hard to say. | [02:58] |
mircea_popescu | well that'd be paris. | [02:58] |
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BingoBoingo | !up princessnell | [02:59] |
assbot | Voicing princessnell for 30 minutes. | [02:59] |
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princessnell | ty | [02:59] |
mircea_popescu | so today i learned that mra is a thing. and in the process : | [02:59] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mra | [02:59] |
ozbot | Urban Dictionary: mra | [02:59] |
mircea_popescu | check out the ud bias lol. | [03:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.0425 = 0.1275 BTC [+] | [03:00] |
mircea_popescu | i guess ima have to write about this nao. | [03:01] |
princessnell | mra = beta-driven inverted feminism | [03:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34126 @ 0.00086429 = 29.4948 BTC [+] {4} | [03:03] |
taub | what a joke, constant trades average size of 0.5 that happen between the spread outta nowhere | [03:03] |
mircea_popescu | the internet is, practically speaking, a collection of frogs and cicadas arguing as to which one set is the true operatic singer. | [03:03] |
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taub | http://puu.sh/8DsdW.png totally legit volume distribution | [03:03] |
taub | shitbtc | [03:03] |
mircea_popescu | taub what's in the graph ? | [03:03] |
taub | daily btceur of hitbtc | [03:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3972 @ 0.00012314 = 0.4891 BTC [-] {8} | [03:08] |
mircea_popescu | taub i don't know anyone that uses hitbtc anyway | [03:08] |
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taub | yea i suppose it's not a big deal | [03:10] |
taub | yet bitcoincharts wont rank houbi, but they'll rank this ;D | [03:10] |
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mircea_popescu | what's houbi ? | [03:12] |
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kakobrekla | the difference is that hitbtc is not china afaik, taub . | [03:25] |
kakobrekla | at least thats their reasoning imo | [03:26] |
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moiety | hallo | [03:31] |
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BingoBoingo | Hello | [03:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.0008866 = 10.1516 BTC [+] | [03:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0425 = 0.2125 BTC [+] | [03:41] |
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moiety | how are you BingoBoingo? | [03:46] |
BingoBoingo | moiety: Been both better and worse | [03:46] |
moiety | ?? how's your cold been? and have you had an update? | [03:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46499989 BTC [+] | [03:49] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.46499999 = 5.58 BTC [+] {3} | [03:50] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.469999 = 4.7 BTC [+] | [03:53] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0313 = 0.1565 BTC [-] | [03:59] |
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mircea_popescu | hi moiety | [03:59] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 164 @ 0.0043 = 0.7052 BTC [+] | [04:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.031224 = 0.1561 BTC [-] {3} | [04:00] |
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moiety | mew mircea_popescu how are you? | [04:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0710003 = 0.497 BTC [-] | [04:01] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 77 @ 0.041 = 3.157 BTC [-] | [04:03] |
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mircea_popescu | pretty great | [04:03] |
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moiety | :D how is m.pif doing? | [04:06] |
moiety | theres a rogue dot in there isn't there | [04:07] |
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kakobrekla | you know, it starts with 'fund' and ends with 'fund', so winklevossy. you are better off just saying 'mund'. | [04:11] |
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moiety | i'm roaming around the wiki | [04:17] |
moiety | ended up having visitors ive not seen for a long time hence absence and no guide | [04:17] |
moiety | would you rather see a paste first before i plod around the wiki | [04:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00088212 = 4.6752 BTC [-] | [04:20] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.041 = 0.533 BTC [-] | [04:21] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: i can't say about the others, but 'btc-e' faking volume is a testable hypothesis. | [04:29] |
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asciilifeform | (one could, in principle, take its real-time published trades and attempt buy/sell, see if it is matched at a particular offer, etc) | [04:30] |
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asciilifeform | why anyone should wish to do this, is another matter. | [04:31] |
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kakobrekla | moiety if you were talking about ba wiki , go ahead and plod, thats why its there. | [04:36] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-] | [04:39] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+] | [04:46] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.074 = 1.11 BTC [+] | [04:51] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0740001 = 0.74 BTC [+] | [05:04] |
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dub | !down mobgod | [05:19] |
assbot | Insufficient rights, dub, !up yourself on PM first. | [05:19] |
thestringpuller | dub dub haven't seen you in a while | [05:20] |
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mircea_popescu | !up princessnell | [05:23] |
assbot | Voicing princessnell for 30 minutes. | [05:23] |
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dub | thestringpuller: sup | [05:23] |
princessnell | i was honored to be cited on trilema | [05:24] |
princessnell | v exciting | [05:24] |
dub | you put stationary in ur butt? | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | o was it your first time princessnell ? | [05:25] |
princessnell | you tell me! | [05:25] |
princessnell | or u mean anywhere? | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | princessnell no i mean on trilema o.O | [05:26] |
princessnell | well i haven't scoured every post yet | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | !up realzies | [05:27] |
assbot | Voicing realzies for 30 minutes. | [05:27] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: unless i misunderstand, real book transmuting to fake history is detectable with the only slightly non-naked eye | [05:31] |
asciilifeform | supposing anyone gave a damn. | [05:31] |
artifexd | Did the self voicing rules change? | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform nah. jitney is an unsolved problem in the fiat markets either. | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | artifexd not afaik. why ? | [05:35] |
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artifexd | As I understand it, to self up one must be in assbot's l2 (or higher). | [05:35] |
artifexd | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#665321 <- implies that l3 is sufficient. Rated by someone rated by assbot. | [05:36] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [05:36] |
mircea_popescu | that's l2. | [05:36] |
asciilifeform | jitney ? | [05:36] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform common penny stock fraud. two brokers pass the stock back and forth to create the semblance of volume. | [05:36] |
asciilifeform | aha, so 'fake' as in shills, rather than cooked books as such | [05:37] |
artifexd | Assbot rates bob. Bob is in assbots's l1. Bob rates George. George is in Assbot's l2. George rates Nancy. Nancy is in Assbot's l3. Or am I fundamentally misunderstanding somethign? | [05:37] |
asciilifeform | 'painted tape' ? | [05:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00088342 = 16.4316 BTC [+] | [05:37] |
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artifexd | In that example, Bob and George could self up, but Nancy could not. Right? | [05:38] |
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mircea_popescu | artifexd right | [05:38] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 600 @ 0.00021402 = 0.1284 BTC [-] {3} | [05:38] |
mircea_popescu | "Rated by someone rated by assbot". l2. | [05:38] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform well painting is more like price fixing | [05:39] |
artifexd | Being rated by someone in assbots l2 doesn't do anything useful for self voicing though, right? | [05:39] |
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mircea_popescu | also a little more risky, in the sense you may end up beaten to shit by the market. | [05:39] |
mircea_popescu | artifexd right. | [05:39] |
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artifexd | Ok. I'll chalk it up to you making a typo and that the rules didn't change. | [05:41] |
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mircea_popescu | wait what typo did i make! | [05:41] |
artifexd | mircea_popescu:taub you need to get rated by someone in assbot's l2, then id with gribble and pm assbot !up <- you need to be rated by someone in assbot's l1 | [05:41] |
asciilifeform | it makes arithmetical sense, that, using shills, an exchange can generate whatever 'market' price spectra it likes. | [05:41] |
mircea_popescu | o yes. | [05:41] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform only if it has infinite resources. | [05:41] |
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asciilifeform | what resource expenditures are needed, assuming the 'fake' prices are higher than the genuine market price ? | [05:42] |
asciilifeform | (sell, rather than buy) | [05:42] |
asciilifeform | fake sellers offer inflated price, fake buyers buy at it | [05:43] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform someone could sell (even short) your stock, taking "your" profits you paid to generate. | [05:43] |
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asciilifeform | like the $10,000 video game machines on ebay. | [05:43] |
mircea_popescu | this is generally why scammers bitch and whine about how shorts are bad : | [05:43] |
mircea_popescu | they have just pushed the stock price up fraudulently, and don't want to be raped for it. | [05:43] |
mircea_popescu | so they ask govt to intervene and distort the market. | [05:43] |
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asciilifeform | afaik 'btc-e' offers no stock? | [05:44] |
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mircea_popescu | either btc or fait can be the "stock" | [05:44] |
mircea_popescu | a trade's a trade. | [05:44] |
asciilifeform | so it follows that btc-e is eligible for raping? | [05:45] |
asciilifeform | or, failing that, could be induced to operate outside of the stated parameters, proving bezzle | [05:46] |
mircea_popescu | we are discussing quite different things. i said jitney, you proposed to replace it with painting the tape, i pointed out that that's different. | [05:46] |
mircea_popescu | it is different. | [05:46] |
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decimation | Herr Walker reviews a book about high frequency trading: http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2014-05/001510.html | [05:48] |
decimation | leads to http://investorsexchange.com (not a joke site!) | [05:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15225 @ 0.00088212 = 13.4303 BTC [-] | [05:48] |
asciilifeform | associated with... expertSexchange? | [05:49] |
decimation | heh don't think so | [05:49] |
decimation | "This exchange, IEX, (it was originally to be called ?Investors Exchange?, but the founders realised that the obvious Internet domain name, investorsexchange.com, could be infelicitously parsed into three words as well as two), would include technological constraints (including 38 miles of fibre optic cable in a box to create latency between the point of presence where traders could attach and the servers which matched bids and asks) which | [05:49] |
decimation | rendered the strategies of the HFTs impotent and obsolete. " | [05:49] |
decimation | lol 38 miles of fiber in a box | [05:49] |
mircea_popescu | decimation im sure we lolled at that domain before. | [05:50] |
asciilifeform | i recall seeing a photo of this very box, here. | [05:50] |
decimation | yeah probably | [05:50] |
decimation | the question is: do you trust the fiat brigade to maintain the "integrity" of their 38 miles? Who audits the delay time? | [05:50] |
asciilifeform | chumpatronics. | [05:51] |
mircea_popescu | Sep 19 23:03:52 |
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mircea_popescu | nm. different one | [05:51] |
decimation | the greater chumpatron sucks chumps attempting to evade lesser chumpatrons | [05:51] |
moiety | kakobrekla: done. would you see if it's of any use please? | [05:51] |
mircea_popescu | so there's been a sexchange of bitcoin, experts and investors so far. who's next ? | [05:53] |
decimation | you know your "market" has entered LOListan when exchanges compete, promising to screw the customer slightly less | [05:53] |
mircea_popescu | obamasexchange.biz ? | [05:53] |
decimation | that sounda more like future news | [05:53] |
moiety | kakobrekla: why does my title have - and not spaces -_- sorry will delete | [05:53] |
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dub | dc's in and near exchanges all have minimum cable distance to make it 'fair' from what Ive heard | [05:54] |
decimation | yeah but there are clear incentives to "cheat" | [05:54] |
dub | which is why the house enforces it | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | the funny part being that this hft thing is a solved problem, mpex doesn't have it. | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | you don't need 38 miles of cable either | [05:55] |
asciilifeform | the problem, as i understand, exists where people wish it to exist. | [05:55] |
BingoBoingo | That trilema article was one of the most revealing to me | [05:55] |
dub | there used to be serious competition to be in closer racks | [05:55] |
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decimation | I guess the only reason there is a front running "problem" is because only a small oligarchy has access to the market | [05:55] |
artifexd | I've never understood why hft is a problem. | [05:56] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation i'd say it exists because a wide nonoligarchy somehow got the mistaken impression it should have access to the market. | [05:56] |
decimation | true | [05:56] |
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decimation | imagine you are the CEO of IBM: you know whether you hold a clown circus for your next board meeting or not, all the chumps are going to auto-buy your stock next Thursday | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | what exact value would one expect from joe the plumber's knowledge of stocks and the world around him to be passed through his 3k into apple's market | [05:57] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation for instance, buffett refused small investors precisely for this reason. fuck you, we don't want your stupid. | [05:57] |
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decimation | also, the small investor has no say, even if he's not stupid | [05:58] |
mircea_popescu | well, he has the say of his buy or sell, whatever it is. that's a say | [05:58] |
decimation | because the votes of his 401k shares are excercised on his behalf | [05:58] |
asciilifeform | we don't want your stupid << at the poker table, they certainly want the stupid. | [05:58] |
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BingoBoingo | ^ | [05:58] |
mircea_popescu | fifty milion idiots with 10 dollars each made britney spears a reality. | [05:58] |
decimation | most USian's don't have any choice on what to buy | [05:58] |
decimation | "stock fund" or "bond fund" | [05:58] |
mircea_popescu | this is also true | [05:59] |
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decimation | and the shares they own in these "funds" convey no rights | [05:59] |
asciilifeform | fortunately, it remains possible to buy... nothing | [05:59] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform sure, the other market participants do want it. the corp tho doesn;t. | [05:59] |
asciilifeform | at least at the moment. | [05:59] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform this takes us to the deep reason mpex is oft maligned on the sm : reddit, tardstalk et all are mostly made up of would-be daytraders, in their own head. | [06:00] |
mircea_popescu | these are very insulted by a flat refusal to allow chumps at table. | [06:00] |
decimation | so, basically banks and investment brokers end up excercising the ownership rights of idiots | [06:00] |
decimation | which solves buffet's problem to some extent | [06:00] |
mircea_popescu | decimation used to work fine up until they started hiring idiots. | [06:00] |
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mircea_popescu | how much is it worth now ? | [06:01] |
decimation | asciilifeform you can avoid some of the 401k madness if your company offers a "Roth 401k" | [06:01] |
asciilifeform | decimation: why would i want any | [06:01] |
BingoBoingo | Generally in the US Roth anything is less insane | [06:01] |
decimation | you pay taxes up front, but you can withdrawl the principal investment (not the earnings) at any time | [06:01] |
BingoBoingo | But that still isn't sane | [06:01] |
decimation | well, I guess if you want to pay more tax | [06:01] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-] | [06:02] |
asciilifeform | better a tax than a straight disappearance into neverneverland | [06:02] |
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decimation | I guess the gov't makes you pay one way or the other. | [06:02] |
decimation | asciilifeform, many us corps (due to heavy USG encouragement) pay incentives to "invest" in 401ks | [06:03] |
decimation | like, we will pay you 5% more if you "invest" 5% | [06:03] |
asciilifeform | yeah, they do | [06:03] |
decimation | you can see how this feeds the above-outlined chumpatron | [06:03] |
asciilifeform | would you send 5% to nigerian scammers if someone offered to pay you 5% more for the trouble? | [06:04] |
decimation | worse, they will pay 5% to the scammers, on the understanding that you can one day collect | [06:04] |
mircea_popescu | ^ employer matching | [06:05] |
decimation | exactly | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | "pour your milk in this hole, we'll pour some more milk after it" | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | always made me think of the 1930s milk pouring exercises | [06:05] |
asciilifeform | typically, this comes with a caveat, that the matched $ is yours only after x years of faithful servitude | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | wouldn't those have been great if the farmers didn't have to pour 100% of the milk poured, | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | but if stupid consumers did half of it ? then they could buy it... again. | [06:05] |
decimation | the IRS "safe harbor" rule is that as long as you "pay" your janitor 3% in his 401k, you can offer any amount you wish to anyone else in your company | [06:06] |
decimation | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/401%28k%29 " If the less compensated employees save more for retirement, then the HCEs are allowed to save more for retirement. " | [06:07] |
ozbot | 401(k) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | [06:07] |
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mircea_popescu | now look what benkay did : https://twitter.com/Artzicarol/status/464063334015197186/photo/1/large | [06:09] |
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decimation | the problem with Roth plans: "I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further..." | [06:10] |
mircea_popescu | how's taht specific to roth anything ? | [06:12] |
asciilifeform | i won't be the least bit surprised when 401k, etc. confiscation is instituted for emigres | [06:12] |
asciilifeform | 'betrayed the motherland, sentenced to confiscation' | [06:12] |
decimation | well, the roth deal is that you pay tax up front, on the promise that you never pay tax again... | [06:12] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/ | [06:12] |
ozbot | The endless story of Korea. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [06:12] |
mircea_popescu | see the story of mr perry. | [06:12] |
asciilifeform | precisely it. | [06:13] |
mircea_popescu | "Plaintiff seeks to make his case solely upon the theory that, by reason of the change in the weight of the dollar he is entitled to $1.69 in the present currency for every dollar promised by the bond, regardless of any actual loss he has suffered with respect to any transaction in which his dollars may be used. We think that position is untenable." | [06:13] |
mircea_popescu | make deal with usg to be repaid so and so. | [06:13] |
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mircea_popescu | get repaid 55%. tough. | [06:13] |
asciilifeform | take the money, spend on beer. they can't make you un-drink the beer, at least. | [06:13] |
decimation | "we think that position is untenable" | [06:14] |
mircea_popescu | court thinks your position is untenable | [06:14] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile the same government paid its own employees a full 100% | [06:14] |
mircea_popescu | because well. | [06:14] |
mircea_popescu | the gestapo you gotta pay. else the court may not "think" | [06:14] |
decimation | USG pays its employees in its own scrip, and they think it's a great deal | [06:14] |
mircea_popescu | decimation no, at the time, it paid people overseas (and select foreign governments) | [06:15] |
mircea_popescu | at the 1.69 rate it wouldn' | [06:15] |
mircea_popescu | t pay a mere citizen | [06:15] |
decimation | http://www.fedsmith.com/2014/02/05/borrowing-from-the-g-fund-again-to-offset-the-debt-ceiling/ | [06:15] |
ozbot | Borrowing from the G Fund (Again) to Offset the Debt Ceiling - FedSmith.com | [06:15] |
mircea_popescu | agreements be damned. | [06:15] |
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decimation | "The G Fund holds approximately 37 percent of all TSP balances held by the 4.6 million TSP participants. As most readers know, the TSP is similar to a 401(k) retirement fund for about 4.6 million current and former government employees and uniformed service members. To make up for the deficit spending by the government, the Treasury has ?suspended reinvestment? or taken assets out of the G Fund to pay for other expenses." | [06:16] |
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decimation | the bigger story is that 37% of fed retirment money is invested in a "fund" that has returned %0.82 year-to-date. | [06:18] |
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decimation | I guess if they won't work as free employees they can always "have problems" and then work as zeks | [06:21] |
asciilifeform | most of the people involved, sadly, can only be redeemed as... biodiesel. | [06:23] |
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decimation | have you read The First Circle ascii? | [06:25] |
asciilifeform | nope | [06:25] |
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asciilifeform | familiar with the background, however. | [06:26] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.1333333 = 0.2667 BTC [-] | [06:26] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0425 = 0.255 BTC [+] | [06:27] |
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decimation | mircea, the NSA is searching for a private citizen to donate to their new museum: Imagine how much it would cost to get your picture in the lobby? http://www.cryptologicfoundation.org/content/New-Museum-Project/ | [06:29] |
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mircea_popescu | lawl | [06:30] |
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mircea_popescu | that's ok, they'll prolly do it for free. | [06:31] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway, the message couldn't be louder or clearer : the nsa is being retired. | [06:32] |
asciilifeform | they've had a museum for ages | [06:32] |
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decimation | Re: price of gold adjustment during the FDR-era: http://books.google.com/books?id=53zTrfaIqSEC&pg=PA322 "we were thinking an increase of 19 to 22 cents. Roosevelt took one look at me and suggested a rise of 21 cents. "It's a lucky number," the President said with a laugh, "because it's three times seven" | [06:33] |
asciilifeform | fellow i know wanted to take his kid there, and drove into the wrong gate | [06:33] |
asciilifeform | they let him out. after a while. | [06:33] |
mircea_popescu | (if anyone's wondering who ron isler is, btw, http://www.topdog08.com/2005/09/who_the_hell_is.html ) | [06:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.00601155 = 0.1202 BTC [+] {4} | [06:33] |
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decimation | is this related to those guys who claimed to attack that power substation in CA? | [06:35] |
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mircea_popescu | i don't imagine it is. | [06:36] |
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asciilifeform | a hypothetical retirement of nsa would be interesting, supposing the americans have built a tank in which to breed folks who can actually keep secrets - like fish | [06:39] |
asciilifeform | failing that, it would have to be operated 'sharashka'-style. | [06:39] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 400 @ 0.00282619 = 1.1305 BTC [-] {5} | [06:39] |
asciilifeform | ('it' being replacement nsa) | [06:40] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform consider the more apocalyptic scenario : there's no secret currently kept by the nsa that we don't already know. | [06:40] |
mircea_popescu | it's probably the more accurate. | [06:40] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.0064 = 0.64 BTC [+] | [06:46] |
asciilifeform | http://youtu.be/BfeIGQ4xAcc?t=12m16s | [06:49] |
ozbot | Aquarium - Soviet Military Intelligence Service 3/10 Full movie English subtitles - YouTube | [06:49] |
asciilifeform | ^ infamous scene, showing how to keep organization that keeps secrets. | [06:49] |
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asciilifeform | (continued here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlIzzns3eMo) | [06:50] |
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asciilifeform | (in the original books, the condemned was pulled out of the fire in the last moment, because an 'honourable' coffin came in, and took precedence. after which, the ceremony resumed.) | [06:51] |
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TheNewDeal | thank you, assbot | [06:58] |
bitcoinpete | TheNewDeal: that bastille day offer still on the table? | [06:59] |
TheNewDeal | yes it is, through today | [06:59] |
decimation | ascii I like the comically long red carpet and enormous table of the GRU chief | [07:00] |
asciilifeform | this was specified in the book, if i recall | [07:00] |
asciilifeform | 'big enough to park in' | [07:00] |
asciilifeform | what it was in real life, devil knows | [07:00] |
asciilifeform | picture if snowden wrote book, about nsa headquarters. | [07:01] |
asciilifeform | some will believe it, some won't, if the man is inclined to 'herodotus' the facts, he very well might succumb to temptation. | [07:01] |
TheNewDeal | i'm off for a quick smoke | [07:01] |
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decimation | especially when he knows the other side won't respond in public, by definition | [07:02] |
mircea_popescu | that definitin is kinda borkt. i'd respond. | [07:02] |
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asciilifeform | gru responded. | [07:02] |
asciilifeform | 'liar, liar, pants on fire' | [07:03] |
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mircea_popescu | doesn't have to be something that stupid. | [07:04] |
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asciilifeform | http://pastebin.com/6EQxr3nm | [07:10] |
ozbot | aquarium piece - Pastebin.com | [07:10] |
asciilifeform | (from british transl.) | [07:10] |
decimation | The real GRU http://cryptome.org/eyeball/gru/pict4.jpg | [07:10] |
decimation | they have a strange batman obsession apparently | [07:11] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla : http://imgur.com/0aVuzYa wtf ? | [07:12] |
decimation | heh "But once he's got his Mercedes and his | [07:13] |
decimation | own swimming pool, the traitor suddenly realizes that all | [07:13] |
decimation | the people around him also have nice cars and pools. He | [07:13] |
decimation | suddenly feels like an ant in a crowd of equally rich ants. | [07:13] |
decimation | He loses the sense of superiority over those around him." | [07:13] |
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decimation | it's better to be the richest of the poor than just another rich guy | [07:14] |
mircea_popescu | this is very true. | [07:14] |
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decimation | you know the funny thing is that the USSR had much official propaganda w.r.t. egalitarianism | [07:18] |
decimation | if this is even half true, the very motor of the state was an elite hierarchy | [07:19] |
decimation | in the west, there is no such hierarchy, yet egalitarianism is strictly enforced | [07:19] |
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asciilifeform | the 'motor' of which kingdom, and where, is something other than a hierarchy ? | [07:22] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation yes it's true, and yes it was. | [07:23] |
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mircea_popescu | i'm not an elitist because i got bored daydreaming one day and fixated on that. | [07:24] |
mircea_popescu | i'm an elitist because i've had the good chance to observe first hand what works and what doesn't and how and why. | [07:24] |
asciilifeform | re: ussr - what kind of hierarchy, and how it suffered an american-style 'favoured son' sclerotic demise, is a beloved subject of armchair generals everywhere. | [07:24] |
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mircea_popescu | and with that i bid you all a most excellent nighty night. | [07:25] |
decimation | 'night | [07:25] |
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mircea_popescu | digging through archives is kind-of lulzy. | [13:55] |
mircea_popescu | "This INITIAL PUBLIC OFFERING AGREEMENT (the "Agreement") is made and entered into as of August 14, 2012, by and among Bitpantry, an unregistered corporation ; Ryan "aethero" Schreiber (GPG fingerprint 305C FB53 7F95 EB20 34A2 E72F 6B5A 5086 B24E D539), an individual ; Stormy "lucidlepidoptera" Schreiber (bitcoin address 1J96JXdfY3CYKeqiDASgnaKjLqumfqfSdG), an individual and MPEx" | [13:56] |
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mircea_popescu | all the things i passed on. | [13:56] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 602 @ 0.00089777 = 0.5405 BTC [-] {2} | [13:56] |
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mircea_popescu | !up knotwork | [13:57] |
assbot | Voicing knotwork for 30 minutes. | [13:57] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0318666 = 0.1275 BTC [+] {2} | [13:57] |
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HeySteve | assbot doesn't recognise altgribble :) | [13:59] |
Apocalyptic | HeySteve, altgribble isn't even here | [14:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00088921 = 2.9789 BTC [+] | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust assbot gribble | [14:04] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user gribble: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 1 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=gribble | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gribble | Rated since: Fri Nov 12 04:57:21 2010 | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | this is fucking weird, are we being attacked ? | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ident | [14:04] |
gribble | Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified. | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | HeySteve what do you mean itdoesn't recognise it ? | [14:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00087905 = 17.3173 BTC [-] | [14:06] |
Apocalyptic | [14:07] | |
mircea_popescu | lol | [14:07] |
bounce | hard to see how this news release is much beyond fud. apparently the girl "investigating", didn't do much of the sort. | [14:08] |
bounce | (re sec thingy on investor.gov) -- relatedly, why would you require investors to be "accredited" other than as an old boys network protectionist measure? | [14:09] |
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fluffypony | bounce: I didn't find it overly dramatic or fud? I think it would be better for investors to apply a bit of common sense than get caught up in hype | [14:10] |
bounce | apparently the land of the free needs to nanny its investors | [14:11] |
fluffypony | lol | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | bounce which girl ? | [14:12] |
fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583262.msg6601582#msg6601582 - "Opinion on usage of .io vs .co.uk? I prefer .co.uk in how it looks and sounds, however .io is better for google rankings." | [14:12] |
ozbot | [CounterParty] IPO announcement. Mimex - UK bitcoin exchange | [14:12] |
mircea_popescu | also it makes sense to limit investment to rich people. because poor people are stupid, and their stupidity hurts the market, not just themselves. | [14:12] |
fluffypony | that broke my brain | [14:12] |
Naphex | how is .io better for google rankings? | [14:12] |
Naphex | wtf | [14:12] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony no actually i'd say it's exactly right for forum learning. | [14:12] |
bounce | the sec one wanting whateveritwas from mpex | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | bounce oh, her. that's too soon really, they're still working on having what i said translated. | [14:13] |
fluffypony | Naphex: because with the flood of new TLDs Google apparently cares about your tld | [14:13] |
fluffypony | lol | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | GEORGE: I don’t get art. | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | JERRY: There’s nothing to get. | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | GEORGE: Well, it always has to be explained to me, and then I have to have someone explain the explanation.... | [14:14] |
bounce | where "working on it" means "stored it on the bottom of a drawer in a disused cabinet" | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | not quite. | [14:14] |
bounce | how many years then? | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | obviously they're making it just enough of a not-priority so as to miss out, that's part and parcel of how governments work. | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | maybe a coupla ? | [14:15] |
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mircea_popescu | bounce but srsly, what don't you like about the sec release ? | [14:22] |
mircea_popescu | i thought it was pretty sensible. | [14:22] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.041 = 2.05 BTC [-] | [14:28] |
bounce | oh I dunno. scanned it and didn't see much of anything except all the well-known things they don't like summed up. now I read the whole thing and indeed, little substance. though I suppose that there's still plenty people out there that haven't put the should-be-obvious things together. | [14:28] |
bounce | and there's the usual "h4xx0rz" mention. thanks so much to the hatted security gangs for that bit of damage. | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | well yes. those aren't intended to be bleeding edge, | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | they're the "no child left behind" minimal bar. | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | and i wouldn't worry too much for the entire haxxorz bullshit. we're pretty much in place by now, if it ever becomes pol;itically expedient or economically productive to do so, the entire obsolete fiat industry can be fully interdicted with little cost and little effort. | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | then gl arguing about the "hackers" "threatening" "bitcoin" when no fiat bank can do anything since last year. | [14:32] |
bounce | the abuse of terminology still grates. | [14:33] |
mircea_popescu | when any company wishing to transact discovers that any single attgempt to use a fiat system results in a failed transaction and a mountain of paperwork, whereas their competitors are getting through just fine via bitcoin, nothing is optional anymore. | [14:33] |
mircea_popescu | they either submit or file for bankruptcy. | [14:33] |
mircea_popescu | obviously if they wait to submit for that point they will also be taxed, for their stupidity, but hey. fair is fair, suck the cock early on, enthusiastically, or else be bloodied by it later. | [14:34] |
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Naphex | mircea_popescu: until then guys still want too impress girls with moneyz ;] | [14:38] |
mircea_popescu | sure. | [14:39] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.0425 = 0.5525 BTC [+] | [14:39] |
Naphex | showing girls your btc wallet might not go as nicely as a pocket full of cash :)) | [14:39] |
mircea_popescu | but he who holds the field makes the rules, irrespective of which way the sheep baaa | [14:39] |
Naphex | hehe | [14:40] |
mircea_popescu | sau pe romaneste, turma merge in directia-n care vrea ciobanu', nu in directia-n care behaie oile. | [14:40] |
mircea_popescu | ca ciobanu' are bita. | [14:40] |
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fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg6602005#msg6602005 | [14:49] |
ozbot | [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] | [14:49] |
fluffypony | "Right after we made the the deal with eASIC, hashfast and cointerra came out with their 400 and 500 GH/s chips, after having eASIC run our RTL on their platform and for the minimum number of chips we had to purchase, we did not have enough pre-orders to cover the purchase due to hashfast and cointerra selling 17 Million in machines." | [14:49] |
fluffypony | well, then. | [14:49] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [14:50] |
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fluffypony | how much did they raise for that? 5k BTC? | [14:51] |
fluffypony | "So the 5000+ BTC we crowdfunded to make a chip - turns out it wasn't enough to make a chip. Just enough to pay a nice salary for Ken and all his family for a few years. I'll be dumping my shares at whatever price I can get. Time to move on." | [14:51] |
fluffypony | lol | [14:51] |
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mircea_popescu | aww | [14:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 47 @ 0.0425 = 1.9975 BTC [+] | [14:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19166 @ 0.00088947 = 17.0476 BTC [+] {2} | [14:53] |
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kakobrekla | you people keep breaking my toys :( | [15:12] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/what-happens-when-you-add-a-drop-of-sewage-to-a-bottle-of-fine-wine/ | [15:13] |
ozbot | What happens when you add a drop of sewage to a bottle of fine wine ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea | [15:13] |
dub | jenkem? | [15:14] |
mircea_popescu | lol shit i forgot about it | [15:16] |
mircea_popescu | shoulda put a reference in there. | [15:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41650 @ 0.00089025 = 37.0789 BTC [+] {3} | [15:20] |
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fluffypony | http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/05/07/as-wall-street-looks-to-copy-bitcoin-the-department-of-defense-studies-it-as-a-terrorist-threat/ | [15:24] |
ozbot | As Wall Street Looks to Copy Bitcoin, The Department of Defense Studies it as a “Terrorist Threatâ | [15:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00088304 = 30.0234 BTC [-] {2} | [15:24] |
fluffypony | "In any event, Munger called Bitcoin “rat poison” (watch the interview here) and I found his choice of words quite telling. After all, rat poison is used to eliminate dangerous and unsanitary pests, namely rodents. So if Bitcoin is “rat poison,” who are the rats? I’d say the financial system itself. So if Bitcoin is the poison to eliminate the hopelessly corrupt and parasitic financial system I have to agree with Munger. Bitcoin is indee | [15:24] |
fluffypony | rat poison." | [15:24] |
mircea_popescu | it is rat poison. | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | guess who's the rat. | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | a hey. dja know the author ? | [15:25] |
fluffypony | no, was linked on reddit | [15:26] |
mircea_popescu | ah. well, he has a point :) | [15:26] |
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fluffypony | "For those of you unaware, Munger is Warren Buffett’s right hand man, and he made headlines in 2012 when he stated only Jews in Nazi Germany before being thrown on a train to a concentration camp have any reason to buy gold" | [15:27] |
fluffypony | LOL | [15:27] |
fluffypony | I missed that line | [15:27] |
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mircea_popescu | eh, the guy made headlines plenty of time, and i don't recall that bs | [15:30] |
mircea_popescu | the writer must be reading bottled farts. | [15:30] |
mircea_popescu | !up haos | [15:30] |
assbot | Voicing haos for 30 minutes. | [15:30] |
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HeySteve | Munger said that ages ago though, it's from the same session where Gates called it a "technological tour de force" | [15:45] |
HeySteve | CCN or Bloomberg... not sure why Reddit dredged that quote up after ... 6 months at least | [15:45] |
fluffypony | HeySteve: the blog post is from yesterday though | [15:46] |
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HeySteve | yeah, apparently they're studying virtual reality and other innocuous things for terrism too | [15:47] |
mircea_popescu | HeySteve takes a while for people to digest stuff. | [15:47] |
HeySteve | seems they've gone paranoid | [15:47] |
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jurov | pankkake: source about panama fund non-existing? | [15:54] |
fluffypony | jurov: I found it | [15:55] |
fluffypony | lemme get link | [15:55] |
fluffypony | jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339417.msg5653556#msg5653556 | [15:56] |
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mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/threads/financial-reporting-for-securities.108442/#post-1996855 | [15:58] |
ozbot | Financial Reporting for Securities | Bitcointa.lk | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | one year aniversary | [15:58] |
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jurov | hm why bitcointa.lk won't show post dates? | [16:00] |
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mircea_popescu | "MPOE-PR, May 11, 2013" ? | [16:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30125 @ 0.00088301 = 26.6007 BTC [-] | [16:07] |
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jurov | oh i see | [16:10] |
jurov | fluffypony: thx | [16:10] |
jurov | Russian Bitcoin Exchange s-BTC.com launch IPO on BitcoinBourse.eu | [16:13] |
jurov | and also GRC: | [16:13] |
jurov | Gaming Royalty Corp provides working capital for Mobile Game Software | [16:13] |
jurov | Developers worldwide that have BtC enabled features. GRC provides | [16:13] |
jurov | capital for new game development on an exclusive title & platform | [16:13] |
jurov | basis. GRC enters into Royalty Contracts from the Mobile Gaming | [16:13] |
jurov | Companies by title or platform that guarantee fixed returns of 2x ~ 4x | [16:13] |
jurov | of the invested amount over two to five year terms. | [16:13] |
jurov | totally legit | [16:13] |
fluffypony | lol | [16:14] |
fluffypony | but it's guaranteed, jurov! | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | guaranteedly. | [16:15] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10375 @ 0.00088301 = 9.1612 BTC [-] | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | who was asking about why qualify investors earlier ? | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | "Millions will be encouraged to dump Monsanto stock this coming Friday, May 9th, to give a clear message to the biotech industry that we don’t support them at all." | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | because you don't need this sort of shit, that's why. | [16:26] |
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fluffypony | protesting 2.0 | [16:27] |
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pankkake | jurov: not sure why you asked me, it's not my claim | [16:29] |
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fluffypony | pankkake: you are a wizard that knows all | [16:36] |
pankkake | if only | [16:36] |
pankkake | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600524.0 | [16:36] |
ozbot | WTS 500 plus shares of AsicMiner | [16:36] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-] | [16:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35950 @ 0.00089049 = 32.0131 BTC [+] | [16:55] |
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kakobrekla | bitstamp fixed their scam by not fixing it; https://www.bitstamp.net/article/bitstamp-minimum-trade-changing-to-5/ | [17:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15425 @ 0.00089027 = 13.7324 BTC [-] | [17:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00088281 = 14.3015 BTC [-] | [17:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07255543 = 0.7256 BTC [-] {2} | [17:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03241666 = 0.1945 BTC [+] {2} | [17:08] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0325 = 0.26 BTC [+] {4} | [17:09] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0325 = 0.2275 BTC [+] {3} | [17:10] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.03198881 = 0.7997 BTC [+] {7} | [17:11] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0325 = 0.13 BTC [+] | [17:12] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1553 @ 0.00089777 = 1.3942 BTC [-] | [17:27] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 48 @ 0.041 = 1.968 BTC [-] | [17:30] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m s.mpoe | [17:35] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0008523 / 0.00087468 / 0.00089049 (990557 shares, 866.42 BTC), 7D: 0.00083786 / 0.00089027 / 0.00097641 (4768259 shares, 4,245.05 BTC), 30D: 0.00083786 / 0.0009506 / 0.00101 (20321475 shares, 19,317.68 BTC) | [17:35] |
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asciilifeform | from the loltron: | [17:37] |
asciilifeform | http://cryptome.org/2014/05/mathew-goldstein.pdf | [17:37] |
fluffypony | assbot: hah hah - he tailgated into the Whitehouse? | [17:40] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform even | [17:40] |
BingoBoingo | http://deadspin.com/a-goddamned-dinosaur-threw-out-the-first-pitch-at-the-p-1573135172 | [17:46] |
ozbot | A Goddamned Dinosaur Threw Out The First Pitch At The Padres Game | [17:46] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-] | [17:58] |
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thestringpuller | lol fluffypony is on dat provigil | [18:10] |
thestringpuller | never sleeps | [18:10] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.0008826 = 13.592 BTC [-] {2} | [18:12] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-] | [18:14] |
fluffypony | thestringpuller: I'm UCT +2, so I'm normally asleep when all the cool stuff happens :) | [18:15] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00088258 = 9.1788 BTC [-] | [18:22] |
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BingoBoingo | The thing about -assets is that eventually the irregularity and unpredictability of when interesting things happens messes with everyone's sleep cycle | [18:30] |
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fluffypony | BingoBoingo: tell me about it | [18:35] |
fluffypony | been pulling lots of 2am nights recently | [18:35] |
fluffypony | I blame -assets | [18:35] |
BingoBoingo | fluffypony: I'll let you experience it. This is just the beginning for you. | [18:35] |
pankkake | !jd mpif | [18:36] |
assbot | Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.97850636 BTC; -0.04374053 BTC (-0.0267%) since last check 16h 10m 44s ago. | [18:36] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0731 = 0.5117 BTC [+] | [18:36] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-] | [18:44] |
BingoBoingo | %book | [18:48] |
atcbot | 75k@235 25k@234 0k@230 | 8k@195 90k@156 10k@155 | [18:48] |
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BingoBoingo | http://crazyrxman.blogspot.com/2014/04/its-april-fools-day.html | [18:54] |
ozbot | Crazy RxMan: It's April Fools Day | [18:54] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.71286496 BTC to 8`632 shares, 31428 satoshi per share | [19:00] |
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benkay | what'd i miss, BingoBoingo | [19:01] |
BingoBoingo | benkay: Oh, not too much. Freenode getting a touch of DDoS it seems | [19:02] |
Apocalyptic | reddit summed up | [19:06] |
Apocalyptic | [19:06] | |
Apocalyptic | [19:06] | |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.00605 = 0.1513 BTC [-] {2} | [19:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-] | [19:07] |
fluffypony | lol | [19:08] |
fluffypony | true | [19:08] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07415367 = 0.8898 BTC [+] {2} | [19:10] |
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benkay | [19:11] | |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07485653 = 1.048 BTC [+] {3} | [19:12] |
BingoBoingo | benkay: Maybe it's a regional thing. Or these damned pills. | [19:12] |
benkay | fluffypony: aliyun? my dreams of bringing the cloud to asia have been crushed. | [19:12] |
fluffypony | benkay: it's a sad day for all Asientrepreneurs | [19:13] |
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BingoBoingo | Eh, the cloud, CDN's, et all can burn in hell | [19:13] |
benkay | BingoBoingo: gtfo | [19:14] |
benkay | every tool has a time and a place. | [19:14] |
BingoBoingo | benkay: Sure, at the right time and place Orchiectomy can be a valuable lifesaving procedure, but it is something the sane would never undergo electively. | [19:15] |
benkay | dude | [19:17] |
benkay | you don't even build bridges | [19:17] |
BingoBoingo | Well. I make the occasional wharf | [19:18] |
Apocalyptic | the clould always sounded to me like first class BS | [19:18] |
asciilifeform | there is no 'cloud.' only - other people's hard disks. | [19:18] |
Apocalyptic | ^ | [19:18] |
benkay | don't be talkin to me about 4140 vs 1018 | [19:19] |
benkay | sometimes renting other people's hard disks is fine and cloud is shorthand for virtual butts argh do argh you pedantic dinosaurs argh | [19:19] |
TomServo | I had a former employer that was/is trying to enter the 'cloud backup' market. With a single DC and SAN... I think he missed the point. | [19:19] |
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asciilifeform | 4140 vs 1018 << hastelloy please. | [19:20] |
benkay | hastelloy << how much does hastelloy cost? | [19:21] |
asciilifeform | more. but it's neat. | [19:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00088258 = 11.8266 BTC [-] | [19:22] |
asciilifeform | to continue with metallurgical analogy, 'cloud' is... zamac. | [19:22] |
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Naphex | sup | [19:24] |
Naphex | ;o | [19:24] |
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* | BingoBoingo chose telephone poles as the structural elements | [19:25] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48661996 BTC [+] | [19:25] |
benkay | i have a neat little aluminum bicycle. | [19:28] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 230 @ 0.041 = 9.43 BTC [-] | [19:28] |
benkay | (it's little because i am as well) | [19:28] |
benkay | its weight and stiffness are rather impressive. | [19:28] |
benkay | but i wouldn't build a bridge out of Al. | [19:28] |
benkay | or zamac. | [19:28] |
asciilifeform | i never even knew of zamac until i had a... corkscrew break in half. | [19:29] |
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BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: That is the worst | [19:29] |
Apocalyptic | [19:30] | |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03290016 = 0.1974 BTC [-] {2} | [19:30] |
benkay | who cares how the herps derp | [19:31] |
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mike_c | lol, BingoBoingo, i too built an actual bridge in boy scouts. good times. | [19:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00088191 = 30.6023 BTC [-] {2} | [19:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5408 @ 0.00087971 = 4.7575 BTC [-] | [19:37] |
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benkay | %h | [19:38] |
atcbot | %t | %ticker | %book | %diff | %tx | %mined | %block |
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benkay | %t | [19:38] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 195 Ask: 230 Last Price: 195 24h-Vol: 0k High: 0 Low: 0 VWAP: 0 | [19:38] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [-] | [19:38] |
benkay | hey mod6 can i convince you to load atcbot into #pdxtech-btc | [19:38] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.07246664 = 7.2467 BTC [-] {6} | [19:39] |
fluffypony | lol SymStep: | [19:41] |
fluffypony | "@fluffypony: When you have been here long enough you do learn that not many people with long experience in bitcoin care about WoT and most people who do turn out to be scammers are very happy to be part of Wot. Biggest scammers usually have been here for very long time planning and making trust from others." | [19:41] |
BingoBoingo | mike_c: Was your engineering more sophisticated than "lay telephones poles parallel and cover with boards"? | [19:42] |
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mike_c | hell yeah. we used fallen trees. | [19:42] |
mike_c | and rebar'd them together. | [19:42] |
mike_c | muy complicated | [19:42] |
mod6 | benkay: yeah, I think we can manage that. pm me. | [19:42] |
thestringpuller | benkay, i roll my j tight, i know what they like | [19:43] |
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mike_c | i don't keep up much on havelol, just found out they've been running in the red the last few months! | [19:45] |
BingoBoingo | Orly | [19:45] |
mike_c | i don't see any reason that would turn around. | [19:45] |
mike_c | http://i.imgur.com/fgMnuwo.png | [19:45] |
mike_c | if anybody else missed it | [19:45] |
kakobrekla | ;;later tell artifexd should be fixed nao. | [19:46] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [19:46] |
artifexd | kakobrekla: Confirmed. | [19:47] |
artifexd | Speaking of bitbet, is there a way to get search results in json? | [19:48] |
kakobrekla | i dun think so | [19:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0329 = 0.329 BTC [-] {3} | [19:48] |
artifexd | May I have one? | [19:48] |
mike_c | um, everyone, nice knowing you. i'm off to my private island. | [19:49] |
mike_c | http://i.imgur.com/oDRuMjF.png | [19:49] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07202012 = 0.7202 BTC [-] {2} | [19:49] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-] | [19:49] |
pankkake | did you use IPoT? | [19:49] |
asciilifeform | runaway decimal point? | [19:50] |
mod6 | heh, JSON api = new bitbetbot? | [19:50] |
artifexd | mod6: Shhhhh | [19:50] |
mod6 | haha | [19:50] |
Apocalyptic | dat price | [19:51] |
mike_c | kakobrekla: stats page in json still somewhere in your todo list? | [19:51] |
kakobrekla | mike_c today | [19:51] |
mike_c | ah, nice | [19:51] |
mike_c | for the record, https://justcoin.com/ is responsible for the retarded BTC price on bitcoinaverage | [19:53] |
mike_c | scandinavia's first best greatest btc exchange | [19:53] |
kakobrekla | artifexd you know you can parse all the bets in json yourself | [19:53] |
kakobrekla | so searchin those shouldnt be a problem | [19:53] |
fluffypony | mike_c: "Last price 322 998 BTC/EUR 2 650 BTC/NOK 446 BTC/USD" | [19:54] |
fluffypony | only the Europeans are lucky on JustCoin | [19:54] |
fluffypony | everyone else is unfortunate | [19:54] |
artifexd | Sure. I can walk from 1 to error and store those. I was looking to offload my workload on you though. | [19:54] |
mike_c | skipping 128 ;) | [19:54] |
Naphex | http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/btcxchangeRON_depth.html | [19:55] |
ozbot | Bitcoin Charts / Markets / btcxchangeRON | [19:55] |
mike_c | the lost bitbet. http://bitbet.us/bet/128/ | [19:55] |
fluffypony | they are borked: http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/orderbook.php?pair=btc-eur&market=justcoin | [19:56] |
fluffypony | I think they're trying to switch to bits or something equally stupid | [19:56] |
mike_c | maybe scandanavians just really like btc. it's the new china. | [19:56] |
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fluffypony | the spread's only 9,950.000 EUR | [19:57] |
fluffypony | dat arbitrage | [19:57] |
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thestringpuller | mike_c: what's the action | [19:59] |
thestringpuller | you are the new Bugpowder | [19:59] |
thestringpuller | ;;last seen | [19:59] |
gribble | (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} |
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thestringpuller | ;;last Bugpowder | [20:00] |
gribble | (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} |
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thestringpuller | ;;seen Bugpowder | [20:00] |
gribble | Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 36 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.03271854 = 0.8834 BTC [-] {3} | [20:03] |
benkay | %t | [20:05] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 195 Ask: 230 Last Price: 195 24h-Vol: 0k High: 0 Low: 0 VWAP: 0 | [20:05] |
TomServo | .d | [20:05] |
ozbot | 8.001 billion | Next Diff in 646 blocks | Estimated Change: 8.5841% in 4d 2h 9m 13s | [20:05] |
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benkay | 24 hr metrics broken, mod6 ? | [20:05] |
thestringpuller | hustle that ATC | [20:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00088215 = 11.071 BTC [+] | [20:08] |
BingoBoingo | Might have been 24+ hours without a trade | [20:09] |
Apocalyptic | the market is just dead | [20:10] |
Apocalyptic | mod6, seen, that's why 0 as high/low/vwap is misleading | [20:11] |
pankkake | %book | [20:11] |
Apocalyptic | and why i chose to return n/a instead | [20:11] |
atcbot | 75k@235 25k@234 0k@230 | 8k@195 90k@156 10k@155 | [20:11] |
pankkake | %diff | [20:11] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 144827.55 in 1417 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -68.19 | [20:11] |
Apocalyptic | pankkake, ATC needs your miners ! | [20:11] |
pankkake | I got one block in like two weeks | [20:12] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.07180046 = 1.436 BTC [+] {10} | [20:14] |
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mike_c | thestringpuller: the action? not following you. | [20:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8270 @ 0.00088001 = 7.2777 BTC [-] {2} | [20:23] |
benkay | ;;gettrust princessnell | [20:27] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user princessnell: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=princessnell | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=princessnell | Rated since: never | [20:27] |
kakobrekla | artifexd if it makes you feel any better theres no req limit on the api | [20:28] |
artifexd | Eh. I was just trying to avoid having to maintain state. | [20:29] |
mod6 | Apocalyptic: ok, im about to test out a fix for that. | [20:31] |
mod6 | this look better? [X-BT] Bid: 195 Ask: 230 Last Price: 195 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A | [20:32] |
kakobrekla | artifexd myea alright i see what i can do | [20:35] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 28 @ 0.041 = 1.148 BTC [-] | [20:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40570 @ 0.00088035 = 35.7158 BTC [+] {3} | [20:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31051 @ 0.00087905 = 27.2954 BTC [-] | [20:55] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.074 = 1.48 BTC [-] | [20:58] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.46499995 = 2.325 BTC [-] {4} | [20:59] |
benkay | lol cats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Sbt345jkk | [21:01] |
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BingoBoingo | Damn, cats | [21:02] |
pankkake | French cats! | [21:04] |
Apocalyptic | [21:04] | |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13942 @ 0.00088101 = 12.283 BTC [+] | [21:05] |
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mod6 | ok i'll merge that in then Apocalyptic thanks | [21:07] |
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mod6 | ok merged, but will leave in the incubator until there is at least 1 trade so can ensure that I didn't break normal functionallity. | [21:13] |
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mod6 | ok seems to be working | [21:18] |
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mod6 | %tslb | [21:22] |
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mircea_popescu | trilema commenter sez, "I used to be more than happy to find this internet" | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.worldtribune.com/2014/05/07/report-50-injured-blast-iran-nuke-site-storage-facility/ | [21:28] |
ozbot | Huge blast reported near secret Iran nuclear site; City of Qazvin closed - World Tribune | Worl | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | "Bitstamp’s accounting system rounds trading fees to pennies. To greatly reduce the impact of this rounding for our clients the minimum trade amount is being raised to $5.00." ahahaha | [21:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 49 @ 0.041 = 2.009 BTC [-] | [21:33] |
kakobrekla | the private statement to me 2 years ago was they are working on new trading engine btw. | [21:36] |
mike_c | too busy buying lambos | [21:37] |
kakobrekla | teslas actually. | [21:37] |
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mircea_popescu | la-la-la-bimbo! | [21:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0747 = 0.5976 BTC [+] | [21:38] |
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mircea_popescu | by the way, the last bond auction was a slaughter. yield ended up 3.44% (up from issuance), and the dealers kinda smelled of panic. | [21:41] |
mike_c | t-bonds?? | [21:42] |
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mircea_popescu | Scott Skyrm If 5 years of near 0% interest rates isn't sufficiently helping the housing market, then maybe the problem lies elsewhere | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | Mircea Popescu You know, plenty of corpses have been keeping very strict diets, doesn't seem to have improved their health. | [21:45] |
davout | mike_c: what happened with justcoin? | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c yes 30 year ts | [21:45] |
mike_c | davout: dunno what the bug was, but they were reporting a btc price 1000x too high and it hosed bitcoinaverage.com | [21:46] |
davout | maybe kakobrekla fixed the wrong API | [21:46] |
mike_c | lol | [21:46] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/report-journalists-are-miserable-over-educated-under-paid-middle-aged-men-mostly/361891/ | [21:49] |
ozbot | Report: Journalists Are Miserable, Liberal, Over-Educated, Under-Paid, Middle-Aged Men - Derek Thomp | [21:49] |
mircea_popescu | turns out working for the bureaucracy sucks these days. whoi could have guessed. | [21:49] |
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mircea_popescu | fluffypony> "@fluffypony: When you have been here long enough you do learn that << who's the clueless fuckwit ? | [21:50] |
benkay | just the place other people pay the mortgage on you know i'm more than happy to help with the payments if i can stick my girl in it. | [21:51] |
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benkay | !up frank1e | [21:51] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 140 @ 0.0745 = 10.43 BTC [-] | [21:51] |
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fluffypony | mircea_popescu: the guys that said they'd been around for so long they even knew about Namworld's scammingz | [21:52] |
fluffypony | SymStep | [21:52] |
fluffypony | here's my reply: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551698.msg6615774#msg6615774 | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | lol which namworld scammings are those ? | [21:52] |
mike_c | sorta. they released their quarterly report to shareholders only and some guy republished it | [21:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [-] | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-99655 << here's a good bit of history re namworld, which got dug up by a different convo recently. | [21:52] |
ozbot | A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | i dun think the guy's scamming anyone. | [21:53] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: they were trying to be clever and demonstrate their knowledge of the sub-culture because they're "been around" for so long | [21:53] |
fluffypony | Namworld's reply to them was "I mean among so many outright scams to choose for, that you mention me being late on repayment on loan repayment based on a single post in the middle of a thread." | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, i've been around long enough to know him as namjies. which is what your noob'd know him as too, if he actually HAD been around for as long as he claims. | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | which is why things such as got milk are so motherfucking important | [21:53] |
mike_c | havelol quarterly report (gdocs not my fault): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxnW49twNMNbX0tic1N6VVpaV28/edit?pli=1 | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | we can tell the dragons from the pretentious bats quite readily, because of such small little barbs on yggdrasil. | [21:54] |
midnightmagic | mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio | [21:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.453 BTC [-] | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c a yes that. turns out i been behind on my lolreports. was busy lately | [21:54] |
mike_c | life is too short for staying up to date on HIF. | [21:55] |
Apocalyptic | ^ | [21:55] |
Apocalyptic | on * havelock stock | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | well it's better than monthy python re-runs | [21:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71650 @ 0.00087809 = 62.9151 BTC [-] {5} | [21:56] |
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mike_c | quick, excercise your calls | [21:58] |
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mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic> and why i chose to return n/a instead << good call. | [21:59] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.453 = 0.906 BTC [-] {2} | [21:59] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.074899 = 0.2996 BTC [+] | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell thickasthieves http://trilema.com/2014/what-happens-when-you-add-a-drop-of-sewage-to-a-bottle-of-fine-wine/#comment-99670 see, why can't you be more like her! | [22:00] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | Subject: Inside Bitcoins Tel-Aviv | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | From: "Nimrod Nimi Gruber" |
[22:01] |
mircea_popescu | I would like to offer you to sponsor a big International conference produced by Mediabistro on July 28-29 at the Hilton Tel-Aviv hotel. The event will attract between 500 to 1500 attendees from all over the world and is the biggest and most professional in its field. If you can refer me to the right person so i can send him all the details it would be great! | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | Thank you so much, Nimrod Gruber Inside Bitcoins Tel-Aviv Skype: nimrodg41 Cell: +972-52-4442838 | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | dudes just email me now asking for shit. because why the fuck not. | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | anyone know this nimrod ? | [22:02] |
mod6 | haha | [22:04] |
BingoBoingo | I'm going to guess Jewish. Prolly knows or knows of Meni Rosenfeld | [22:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 43 @ 0.00281042 = 0.1208 BTC [-] {2} | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo to me it sounds like it's a made up name, srsly. | [22:05] |
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BingoBoingo | Sounds so made up it might have to be real. | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | hm that's a point. | [22:06] |
mod6 | guess this guy is on fb: https://he-il.facebook.com/nimiG | [22:06] |
mod6 | could be a fake account i guess. | [22:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [-] | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 o look at that. porsche just rang my doorbell. they're the most professional carmaker, cold calling door to door. | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | i bought a lawnmower and three toothbrushes. | [22:07] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/08/sign_a_pdf_with_mac_os_x_s_preview_application.html | [22:07] |
ozbot | Sign a PDF with Mac OS X’s Preview application. | [22:07] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.007 = 0.21 BTC [+] | [22:09] |
benkay | biggest and most professional! | [22:11] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 97 @ 0.041 = 3.977 BTC [-] | [22:12] |
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fluffypony | benkay: all that's missing is the "EVER"! | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony btw are you ignoring my q re vertcoin or just didn't see it ? | [22:15] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: which one? | [22:15] |
fluffypony | oh wait | [22:15] |
fluffypony | assbot was off | [22:15] |
fluffypony | so I think my replies weren't logged | [22:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11334 @ 0.00088094 = 9.9846 BTC [+] | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | ouch | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | but no cause i was idling or not | [22:16] |
fluffypony | lemme pull up my logs | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | danke | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | so in this twiotter discussion about whores and politicians, it occured to me : wouldn't iot be great if some state, like say nevada, limited political office to whores only for a decade ? | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | just to see what happens. | [22:17] |
fluffypony | oh it did get logged | [22:17] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2014#665705 | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony no argument, yeah. but, you basically committed to the thing ? or what's the plan there ? | [22:18] |
pankkake | http://www.parti-du-plaisir.com/ their ideas are dumb as fuck though | [22:18] |
ozbot | Cindy Lee | Parti du Plaisir | Parti du Plaisir | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake yeah because of this meta- and pretense bs. they can't make a whore party, they gotta make a pretend-whore sorta-like party except stupid. | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | it's despicable. | [22:18] |
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mircea_popescu | dude, make the whore party the whore party. to be accepted you gotta have the clap. | [22:19] |
benkay | ew | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | no. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | no fucking ew. lick the smelly spot beotch. | [22:19] |
benkay | i ain't your whore. | [22:20] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: yes - we structured it as: I own 50%, Peter owns 50%, we've diluted our shareholding (equally) for the IPO. he does all the work, I operate as chairman of the board (which currently consists of me and me alone, that will change later) | [22:20] |
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davout | pankkake: ty, my voter's card will finally be of some use | [22:21] |
fluffypony | by "all the work" I mean management, not actual work :-P | [22:21] |
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pankkake | I don't you will be able to vote for them | [22:21] |
pankkake | didn't even look up what's coming for EU elections | [22:22] |
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BingoBoingo | On that note I'll be headed back to the doctor soon. If I don't reappear within a few hours start praying for my testicles. | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | benkay ok you can spray disinfectant first o.O | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony for vertcoin this ? | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo you had three anyway right ? | [22:23] |
bounce | so, you have a company that... has a chairman and a middle manager and that's it? | [22:23] |
pankkake | "Cannabis sans frontières — Stop la prohibition" eh, maybe I'll vote after all | [22:23] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: initially, it's architected for other coins, so they'll be added as time progresses | [22:23] |
fluffypony | bounce: no | [22:24] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Who really knows at this point? | [22:24] |
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benkay | light stinging on the cunt, eh? i'm a little more interested but it's STILL FILTHY. | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony i see. okay. | [22:25] |
davout | pankkake: lol, you junkie | [22:26] |
pankkake | I don't even do drugs | [22:26] |
davout | well then you're a sneaky bastard, wanting to legalize them so others are slower so you have some edge on them | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | he's just angsty :D | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | benkay filth is good for you. | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | do you know carlin's piece ? | [22:27] |
BingoBoingo | davout: That's kind of my position on the issue | [22:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.041 = 2.05 BTC [-] | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic you consider adding the vertcoin thing ? or not doing scrypt coins ? | [22:30] |
pankkake | last time I voted, it was for https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Miguet | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | "Il est le fondateur et le président du parti politique Rassemblement des contribuables français (RCF) et a été élu conseiller municipal de Verneuil-sur-Avre en 1989 et en 1995." | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | lol ok. pankkake voted for the old man's "GET OFF MY LAWN" party. | [22:31] |
pankkake | not really. it's the "taxes are bad" party, but he's nothing (there are actual taxpayers associations, with actual members) | [22:31] |
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pankkake | the old man party is Chasse, Pèche Nature et Traditions (hunting, fishing, nature and traditions) | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | Qu'est-ce que cette "voyoucratie patronale" ? | [22:32] |
pankkake | voyou = bad guy, so "ceo badguycracy" | [22:33] |
pankkake | hard to translate something that has little sense | [22:34] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [22:34] |
mircea_popescu | failed to parse for me too, i brieflythought he is fighting the tendency of ceo types to buy telescopes to spy into the bedrooms and showers of lonely milfs. | [22:34] |
pankkake | ahah, voyeur | [22:35] |
pankkake | he's definitively a shady guy | [22:35] |
davout | pankkake: "Pèche" | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | how do you say sin ? | [22:35] |
davout | that's the way you say it :-) | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | lolk | [22:35] |
pankkake | Pêche :| | [22:35] |
davout | fishing is Pêche | [22:36] |
davout | also peach | [22:36] |
pankkake | Péché is Sin | [22:36] |
davout | pèche is "to sin" | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | not has sinned ? | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | pècher to sin | [22:36] |
davout | "il pèche" -> "he sins" | [22:36] |
davout | no, "pécher" | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | and with that the catholicisme francais class is dismissed. | [22:37] |
davout | XD | [22:37] |
davout | français, please | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | i don't believe in shitting on the character set. | [22:37] |
davout | our c's are manly | [22:38] |
mircea_popescu | çharaçter set ıf you prefer. | [22:38] |
davout | this burns my eyes | [22:38] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: the infantile worldview. there is no "my house" as far as teenagers go, just the place other people pay the mortgage on << i still think we're dealing with 'poverty of the spirit, not the flesh.' people fall for the 'cloud' crapola out of... sloth. don't wanna buy a disk, i'll use this stranger's. don't wanna find toilet, i'll shit where i stand. etc | [22:39] |
pankkake | hēhëhě | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform perhaps. hard to find out what goes on in the mind of the bovine. | [22:39] |
davout | prions | [22:40] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: the bovine will go where the herder points. the sad part is all the folks who ought to know better. | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | davout do you know what's the last thing going through a fly's head as it crashes on the windshield ? | [22:40] |
asciilifeform | its thorax. | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform as a romanian exercise, translate http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2014#665780 ? | [22:41] |
mod6 | asciilifeform: haha | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform hehe exactly. or w/e, its head. | [22:41] |
davout | mircea_popescu: known but good | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell namworld https://bitcointa.lk/threads/pre-ipo-symmetric-step-trading.292080/page-4#post-6205001 we lolled. | [22:42] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [22:42] |
asciilifeform | flock goes where shepherd points, not where sheep brays ? | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | exactly. | [22:42] |
asciilifeform | fucked that one up didnt i | [22:42] |
asciilifeform | ah ok | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | the flock goes the way the shepherd wants, not the way the sheeps bray. | [22:42] |
benkay | there are miles between sloth and knowing one's speciality, asciilifeform. | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony https://bitcointa.lk/threads/pre-ipo-symmetric-step-trading.292080/page-4#post-6318694 make that 2011 to really bother him. i don't think ANYONE from 2011 or prior isn't in the wot tbh. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.aei-ideas.org/2014/04/creative-destruction-2013-newspaper-ad-revenue-continued-its-precipitous-free-fall-and-its-probably-not-over-yet/ | [22:45] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: yeah they live in a little world of delusion. idiots. | [22:46] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: re: the fly: old joke - 'Штирлицу выстрелили в голову. "Разрывная"- подумал он пораскинув мозгами.' | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform brains what ? | [22:48] |
benkay | anecdotally, a client in the political business tells me that web advertising budgets are just touching 10% of the overall campaign budget (the bulk of the remaining 90% is...television) | [22:48] |
asciilifeform | (Stierlitz [film hero] gets shot in the head. 'it must be a dum-dum,' thought Stierlitz, racking his brains.' | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:49] |
fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600628.0 | [22:49] |
pankkake | benkay: well, gotta target the dumb | [22:49] |
ozbot | BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today | [22:49] |
fluffypony | "if you were foolish enough to buy their very own "BBS" IPO shares at 0.1 BTC each you would have earned a whopping 0.00007138 BTC in dividends in 7 months. You can expect to recover your investment in about 9813 months (818 years) at the current average dividend. If you're particularly lucky and they hit their Nov 2013 dividend high every month you can expect to recover your investment in a mere 1676 months (140 years)." | [22:49] |
fluffypony | l.o.l. | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | benkay television is not bad a venue for a) detergent b) politics. | [22:49] |
pankkake | wait, I thought you were r-y-s, fluffypony | [22:49] |
pankkake | anyway, no reason one would advertise on newspapers when there's the web. cheaper, stats, targetting, etc. | [22:50] |
pankkake | nor any reason to read newspapers | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake old style, affluent, powerful people read newspapers. like moi. | [22:51] |
mircea_popescu | except... joe blow politician prolly can't get in there anyway | [22:51] |
pankkake | I thought their only sales left were retirement homes | [22:51] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: actual, dead-tree newspapers? | [22:51] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform not as much as used to be the case, the craft is slowly dieing. | [22:52] |
pankkake | and of course public libraries and other kinds of subsidy laundering | [22:52] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake divers industry publications are still run as if it were 1970 | [22:52] |
fluffypony | pankkake: I'm proslimbs_inc | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | say the romanian central bank's thing or w/e. | [22:53] |
fluffypony | although I see my Glorious Investment of IPO thread got deleted | [22:53] |
pankkake | right, but I'm talking about generic newspapers about news | [22:53] |
pankkake | specialized publication is far from dead, except perhaps the IT one | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | that's a joke. | [22:53] |
bounce | that the thing with three warring sockpuppets? | [22:53] |
fluffypony | bounce: yes | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony wow so it was you ? | [22:53] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: pankkake asked me a few minutes after I posted it | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | linking to that trilema pic ? | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | i must have missed it | [22:54] |
fluffypony | yeah I faked the BitcoinBourse listing as well | [22:54] |
asciilifeform | u.s. trade mags grew thinner in the '90s, then 'fattened' again with ad crapola, like the proverbial swollen torso of the starving african. | [22:54] |
fluffypony | twas a fun troll | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform only select trades tho. as he said, it trade mags are a joke | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | generally anything with a lot of marketing and advertising presence. retail stuff and so on. | [22:55] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.074 = 0.296 BTC [-] | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | also in many non-english places. i used to read la nacion in cr. | [22:55] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.041 = 0.287 BTC [-] | [22:56] |
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benkay | 'lo princessnell | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | !up princesswell | [23:00] |
assbot | Voicing princesswell for 30 minutes. | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | !up princessnell | [23:00] |
assbot | Voicing princessnell for 30 minutes. | [23:00] |
* | assbot gives voice to princessnell | [23:00] |
TomServo | How do you folks imagine farming and BTC will interact? | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo farming what ? cows ? wows ? | [23:00] |
princessnell | hiya | [23:00] |
TomServo | Cows, agriculture.. the food supply basically | [23:01] |
benkay | ;;ident princessnell | [23:01] |
gribble | Nick 'princessnell', with hostmask 'princessnell!d0b9aa4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.185.170.74', is not identified. | [23:01] |
benkay | i thought you had this sorted, pincess | [23:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37224 @ 0.00088144 = 32.8107 BTC [+] {2} | [23:01] |
davout | from the bitstamp fee thread: | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo no idea. | [23:02] |
davout | "tl;dr To some it might look like a hack, but it's a solid hack, so no complaints from me." | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | davout clearly he'd know. | [23:02] |
davout | a minimum trade amount to hide the fact their engine still can't count, solid hack for sure | [23:03] |
fluffypony | "FEC, in ruling 6-0, says Bitcoin contribs to pol committees will be treated as in-kind contributions--same as stocks, other items of value." | [23:03] |
fluffypony | Bitcoin early adopters can now buy their very own politicain! | [23:03] |
fluffypony | *politician | [23:03] |
princessnell | i thought so too :-/ | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | princessnell what's the snag ? | [23:03] |
benkay | so first off is princessnell on the wot you? | [23:03] |
benkay | ;;gettrust princessnell | [23:03] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user princessnell: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=princessnell | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=princessnell | Rated since: never | [23:03] |
princessnell | benkay is kindly helping me figure it out | [23:03] |
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TomServo | mircea_popescu: You, no idea?! I'm shocked. | [23:04] |
bounce | pfft. money means not having to have your own ideas. | [23:05] |
benkay | bounce: money means being able to put steel behind your ideas. | [23:06] |
bounce | no, that's being a country | [23:06] |
benkay | troll | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | http://pastebin.com/E2pKFuJS << log from before assbot logged | [23:07] |
ozbot | Feb 06 20:13:15 |
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bounce | tell it the potus | [23:07] |
mircea_popescu | mar 2013 | [23:07] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo i don't have that many ideas, i just reuse a few. | [23:07] |
mircea_popescu | !up chetty | [23:07] |
assbot | Voicing chetty for 30 minutes. | [23:07] |
* | assbot gives voice to chetty | [23:07] |
chetty | TomServo, I have a friend in Mexico with a small farm, already using BTC to buy/sell locally | [23:07] |
benkay | ;;eauth benkay | [23:09] |
gribble | Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~user@2600:4402:c002:3::854:fb5e. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA | [23:09] |
davout | benkay: http://nakedcellist.org/ | [23:09] |
davout | i'll just leave this here | [23:09] |
benkay | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:fcb305dbacd9bdd66cdd9bad1d0db50c29c66d1ecf1d4853a00bd0c0 | [23:10] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA | [23:10] |
asciilifeform | re: potus, whores: | [23:10] |
asciilifeform | ;;google plumpy interns taking turns many wonderful returns | [23:11] |
gribble | Ex-Googler Being Micromanaged | Sergey's Crawler Fast as Light ...: |
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benkay | right on davout | [23:11] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFtflcbcDF0 | [23:14] |
ozbot | Pizda Cu Motor By JeLLeU - YouTube | [23:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00088068 = 8.9389 BTC [-] {2} | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/05/08/warren-buffett-joe-nocera-and-fessing-up-to-readers/ | [23:19] |
benkay | ;;ident princessnell | [23:20] |
gribble | Nick 'princessnell', with hostmask 'princessnell!d0b9aa4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.185.170.74', is identified as user 'princessnell', with GPG key id 460D29821C8956A4, key fingerprint 4CD44F67A64D9DFBD0E0E0CA460D29821C8956A4, and bitcoin address None | [23:20] |
benkay | ;;rate princessnell first princess of bitcoin | [23:20] |
gribble | Error: 'first' is not a valid integer. | [23:20] |
mircea_popescu | god help you if you live in a soviet revolutionary state and dare piss on the politburo's most recent taxidermy exhibit. | [23:20] |
benkay | ;;rate princessnell 1 first princess of bitcoin | [23:20] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user princessnell has been recorded. | [23:20] |
benkay | ;;gettrust assbot princessnell | [23:21] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask princessnell!d0b9aa4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.185.170.74. Trust relationship from user assbot to user princessnell: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=princessnell | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=princessnell | Rated since: Thu May 8 16:20:29 2014 | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | i should bash the very valid gribble observation. "first" is indeed not a valid integer. | [23:21] |
benkay | !down princessnell | [23:21] |
* | assbot removes voice from princessnell | [23:21] |
benkay | now up yourself, princessnell /msg assbot !up | [23:21] |
* | assbot gives voice to princessnell | [23:21] |
princessnell | woo! finally wotxcore | [23:21] |
princessnell | thank you benkay | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | we accept women in the treefort now ?! | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | what is this, puberty ? | [23:23] |
princessnell | there goes the neighborhood | [23:23] |
princessnell | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/05/08/federal-election-commission-approves-bitcoin-donations-to-political-committees/ | [23:23] |
ozbot | Federal Election Commission approves bitcoin donations to political committees | [23:23] |
chetty | lmao, thats not new MP | [23:23] |
davout | mircea_popescu: there are already a couple | [23:23] |
benkay | trolled u all. | [23:23] |
mircea_popescu | davout that's ok, women should be a couple. | [23:23] |
davout | XD | [23:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [+] | [23:24] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 272 @ 0.041 = 11.152 BTC [-] {3} | [23:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42150 @ 0.00087711 = 36.9702 BTC [-] | [23:25] |
mircea_popescu | o look at that, tsla trading 170s ?! | [23:25] |
mike_c | panic sell! | [23:26] |
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mircea_popescu | did they have a battery explode and burn a bunch of 5 yo blonde white girls ? or what ? | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | wasn't it trading 250s ? | [23:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0315 = 0.1575 BTC [-] {2} | [23:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0748989 = 0.1498 BTC [+] | [23:27] |
mike_c | yes, and it beat estimates last quarter | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c didja identify the event that lead to that 30% drop btw ? | [23:27] |
* | mircea_popescu grins. | [23:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03199983 = 0.16 BTC [+] {4} | [23:28] |
mike_c | btcalpha wrote an article on tesla. | [23:28] |
mike_c | price dropped 30% | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | makes sense | [23:28] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0315 = 0.1575 BTC [+] {2} | [23:29] |
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asciilifeform | !up chetty | [23:39] |
assbot | Voicing chetty for 30 minutes. | [23:39] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00446586 = 0.4332 BTC [-] {2} | [23:46] |
mike_c | ;;bc,stats | [23:47] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 299762 | Current Difficulty: 8.0008721359681635E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 300383 | Next Difficulty In: 621 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 20 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8688849012.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.59877 | [23:47] |
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benkay | !up blueocean | [23:50] |
assbot | Voicing blueocean for 30 minutes. | [23:50] |
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benkay | blueocean: you know if you join channels before you turn on your hostmask we can all see where you're connecting from | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00087711 = 20.349 BTC [-] | [23:51] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0740001 = 0.148 BTC [-] | [23:59] |
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