Forum logs for 07 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu sucks. [00:00]
AndroUser512 Haven't seen aethero today to ask [00:00]
jurov i see nothing untoward on frontpage [00:00]
BitHub alot of people were asking were you were about 8 hours ago mircea [00:00]
BitHub told them you got kidnapped by the CIA again [00:00]
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mircea_popescu cia party & barhopping special unit [00:01]
jurov poor smickles,just came after 3wks and immediately had to calm the situation [00:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.00549 = 2.745 BTC [+] [00:02]
mircea_popescu it was funny, cause when he went the other ddos was recent [00:03]
mircea_popescu sorta like a bridge in tiem for him [00:03]
kakobrekla oh god. [00:05]
kakobrekla glbse drama still aint over [00:05]
Namworld where? [00:05]
mircea_popescu necessarily on the forum [00:05]
kakobrekla naaa [00:06]
kakobrekla http://pastebin.com/XU3Wf9gu [00:07]
BitHub glbse drama fo life [00:08]
mircea_popescu lol so our friendly ddosers actually wiped the upstream provider. [00:09]
mircea_popescu NOW mpex is offline. [00:10]
jurov indeed [00:10]
mircea_popescu i guess never scorn a script kiddie. [00:11]
Lyspooner hell hath no fury like a script kiddie scorned [00:11]
mircea_popescu anyway. should be resolved momentarily. [00:12]
mircea_popescu the worst case scenario is we move over to tor. [00:12]
mircea_popescu that'd likely be a coupla days of downtime. [00:12]
mircea_popescu in between these extremes a number of intermediate solutions. [00:12]
Lyspooner Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a script kiddie scorned [00:13]
kakobrekla so the proxy idea doesnt work after all [00:13]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla well anything on the internet is limited by the internet actually existing. [00:13]
BitHub it is? [00:14]
BitHub dear god [00:14]
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jurov mircea_popescu can't the engine just get moved to completely different dc? [00:14]
mircea_popescu jurov yes, it could. [00:14]
mircea_popescu but i dislike this sort of solutions, just hop around dcs ? [00:15]
mircea_popescu what if i need to take a piss one day ? [00:15]
jurov and only proxies would know where.. as long as it stays secret, no hoppin necessary [00:15]
mircea_popescu this is a small scale garden variety tor implementation. [00:15]
kakobrekla tor sux [00:15]
mircea_popescu why ? [00:15]
Lyspooner Uncertainty and expectation are the joys of life. Security is an insipid thing. [00:16]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner shush you, you're not the one with the suspended exchange. [00:16]
Lyspooner that's not me, that's william congreve [00:16]
kakobrekla tor is not friendly [00:16]
mod6 for whom? [00:16]
kakobrekla to ME [00:17]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla mpex would be on tor, proxies would be on normal web. [00:17]
mircea_popescu problem is it's slow [00:17]
kakobrekla what the point then [00:17]
kakobrekla if proxies hide location [00:17]
mircea_popescu well look, ddos mitigation is an exercise in moving upstream. [00:17]
mircea_popescu what i had here was enough to make 10-100 Gb attacks ineffectual. [00:18]
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mircea_popescu someone taking down all tor nodes is a coupla degrees of magnitude over that. [00:18]
kakobrekla ya but they still know your current location [00:19]
kakobrekla and you need to change that [00:19]
kakobrekla if they are fuckin your isp [00:19]
kakobrekla or what [00:19]
mircea_popescu half of gnax atlanta is dark atm. [00:20]
kakobrekla and if you change it to unknown its same shit if you keep it hidden via tor or via decent http proxies [00:20]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla not really, you can actually trace to source with http proxies. [00:20]
mircea_popescu may take a week or two, sure. [00:21]
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kakobrekla eh? [00:21]
kakobrekla if they cant take tpb down with a solution like that [00:21]
kakobrekla they cant take you down [00:21]
mircea_popescu possibly. [00:22]
jcpham http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19s3jh/dear_coinbase_please_order_some_more_coins_asap/ [00:23]
jcpham "If Coinbase borrowed inventory off btcjam (as btcquick does) they'd probably fund pretty quickly and have a better cost basis" [00:23]
jcpham the internet is full of idiots today [00:23]
jcpham i give up [00:23]
chmod755 lol [00:23]
jcpham so the btcjam coins are being sold, eh [00:23]
BitHub good idea [00:23]
jcpham this idea is familiar [00:24]
BitHub mpex should lend out 100btc on btcjam and never see any of teh btc again [00:24]
jurov do we know where the bticointalk coins ended up? [00:24]
jurov btw [00:24]
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jcpham selling borrowed coins was tried a few times at least once already [00:24]
jcpham none of the borrowed coins were returned afaik [00:24]
mircea_popescu lmao [00:24]
BitHub btcjam should be ddosed [00:25]
BitHub piece of shit site/service [00:25]
kakobrekla point mpex dns to them [00:25]
mircea_popescu lmao ahaghaha [00:25]
jcpham apparently they are more liquid that coinbase [00:25]
jcpham which boggles me [00:25]
BitHub demented animals that invent this crap [00:25]
jcpham so apparently reddit can't find btc [00:25]
jcpham and gox orders are stacking up [00:26]
jcpham all the bitcoins are gone! [00:26]
mod6 kakobrekla: that's a one out of the rg playbook :) [00:26]
pigeons coinlab will roll out its instawallet clone [00:26]
BitHub powered by SEC [00:26]
jcpham maybe coinlab should roll out a lending service [00:26]
pigeons Tom Williams [00:26]
jcpham those work great for liquidity [00:26]
jcpham ooh ooh iknow [00:27]
pigeons coinlab is gonna bring bitcoin to wallstreet man [00:27]
jcpham they could pay interest on deposits [00:27]
BitHub stop giving coinlab ideas [00:27]
BitHub jesus [00:27]
BitHub next you'll be telling them how to offer insurance [00:27]
BitHub fuck ya [00:27]
jcpham they could pay interest on deposits and then use those deposited coins to sell [00:27]
pigeons ooh and they should offer coin storage [00:28]
BitHub NO PIGEON [00:28]
jcpham ooh maybe even a mixer [00:28]
pigeons and a gpu farm integrated into independent video games [00:28]
jcpham for MAX ANON [00:28]
BitHub they're already cutting into BitHub's market share [00:28]
jcpham ooh yeah that too [00:28]
pigeons all ur gamerz r teh goldz [00:28]
jcpham just wait until one of these guys starts offering interest on deposits [00:29]
pigeons 7% a week [00:29]
kakobrekla like 7% a week. [00:29]
pigeons ;) [00:29]
kakobrekla first. [00:29]
BitHub you mean like divs? [00:29]
jcpham yeah exactly like 7% a week [00:29]
BitHub what a mind blowing concept [00:29]
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jcpham it will be a revolutionary concept to the internet at large [00:30]
pigeons i thought 7% a week must be a scam, BUT YCOMBINATOR! [00:30]
jurov heh, mtgoxlive loaded for me first time today [00:30]
jcpham exactly [00:30]
jcpham buy ycombinator [00:30]
jcpham *but [00:30]
jcpham not buy [00:30]
pigeons why ask why? [00:31]
jurov deflationary currency. with 7% weekly interest. austrian economists, take that. [00:31]
jurov better than perpetuum mobile [00:31]
pigeons well we are still at 25 btc/block inflation [00:31]
jcpham -I don't know where coinbase buys. All I'm saying is that they're out and have been for a couple of days. When they no longer say they're out. I think the price of BTC stabilizes. Maybe it's a leading indicator. [00:31]
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jcpham newbs in -otc talking about coinbase out of money [00:32]
pigeons how can they be out of money? YCOMBINATOR [00:32]
jcpham because bitcoin. [00:32]
jurov anyone named the source? [00:32]
mircea_popescu try mpex.co nao [00:33]
jcpham nope [00:33]
Pucilowski what happened to mpex.co? [00:33]
pigeons OMG surely there are no alternative sites using twitter bootstrap that will buy bitcoins for us off an exchange for an extra fee [00:33]
doctor_pullfingr I'm the source. not really a newb - in since 6.43 [00:33]
jcpham my bad [00:33]
doctor_pullfingr just changed my name lots of times [00:34]
jcpham i'm totally a noob though [00:34]
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jurov btw, didn't anyone try to compare coinlab sales with pirate's loot? whether the amount isn't approximately similar, perchance [00:34]
pigeons why'd you wait till june, japan had gained a lot by then [00:34]
Bugpowder lol [00:34]
Bugpowder very patriotic [00:34]
iz jurov: how much did pirate actually make off with? i think it's unknown, b/c everyone won't fess up about how much they got paid back in interest [00:34]
pigeons it is unknown [00:35]
mircea_popescu hey, people wanna show off their muscle, let them show it off to people who care. [00:35]
pigeons i doubt he had much left [00:35]
iz pigeons: same [00:35]
Bugpowder is that going to redirect the ddos to wh? [00:35]
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Bugpowder no right? [00:35]
mircea_popescu i imagine yes. [00:35]
jurov mpex.co -> http://www.whitehouse.gov LMAO [00:36]
mircea_popescu i figure i got a 1% shot of making us national news. [00:36]
Bugpowder heh [00:36]
Bugpowder its a very clever idea [00:36]
mod6 lol, that actually worked. [00:36]
mod6 WE GET SIGNAL [00:37]
mircea_popescu mod6 what ?! [00:37]
mircea_popescu don't tell me it's down [00:37]
mod6 redirect from mpex.co to whitehouse.gov [00:37]
mircea_popescu a a [00:37]
mircea_popescu yeah [00:37]
mod6 i luld [00:37]
mod6 and needed to subsequently quote zero-wing [00:37]
jcpham that's terrible mircea_popescu [00:37]
jurov everyone, now try to submit post requests to whitehouse [00:38]
jurov with gpg encrypted mpex stuff [00:38]
mircea_popescu lol it has no hole [00:38]
Bugpowder not working [00:39]
doctor_pullfingr mircea_popescu - I got STAT earlier today if you care. [00:39]
Bugpowder mpex.co down [00:39]
pigeons romainian bitterrorist pornagrapher points site at whitehouse to direct shadowy hackers to take down usa's "critical infrastructure" [00:39]
Bugpowder whitehouse.gov not down [00:39]
dub inb4 black helicopters [00:39]
mircea_popescu lol i just got an actual proper page [00:39]
mod6 inb4 drone strike [00:39]
Bugpowder its back! [00:40]
mircea_popescu 30day Total Volume 133`707.57454204 BTC [00:40]
mircea_popescu this look stale to anyone ? [00:40]
BitHub l33t [00:40]
mircea_popescu im guffawing over here [00:40]
jurov pointing pympex to whitehouse.gov got HTTP Error 403: Forbidden [00:41]
jurov completely appropriate [00:41]
mircea_popescu interesting [00:41]
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dub 250k btc I think was the popular rumour [00:42]
mircea_popescu went as high as 500k [00:42]
jurov http://mpex.coinbr.com/ back online [00:43]
BitHub So Henry Paulson is the new C.E.O of coinlab? [00:43]
mod6 jurov: nice [00:43]
mircea_popescu well that worked. [00:44]
mircea_popescu leson learned : when someone throws a quarter tb of crap at you [00:44]
jcpham His name was Robert Paulsen [00:44]
mircea_popescu point to something white and get out of the way [00:44]
doctor_pullfingr confirmed mpex.coinbr.com [00:44]
* BitHub chants "his name was robert paulsen" [00:44]
mircea_popescu he's thinking of robert's sister, henry. [00:45]
BitHub ya [00:45]
Bugpowder This bothers me " Whether you are a savvy investor, Bitcoin merchant, or crypto-hobbiest, trading Bitcoin in the US and Canada is about to get faster, easier, and even more secure." [00:46]
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mircea_popescu lol [00:46]
mircea_popescu "also, no coins" [00:46]
Bugpowder You have a misspelling in the first sentence of your splash page [00:46]
mod6 haha [00:46]
mod6 i shouldnt laugh at that, i misspell tons of words :/ [00:47]
Bugpowder Current Price 541m ago Mt. Gox sockets are down. Trade data will not update until they come back online, and depth data will only update once every 15 minutes. Sorry! [00:47]
doctor_pullfingr from mpex.co front page "The time has come to fill important judicial vacancies" [00:47]
Bugpowder weird that all the other websites still work [00:47]
BitHub "Thanks to our partnerships with SEC, Taxoffice and the Whitehouse, we can now provide these services" [00:47]
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mircea_popescu wait [00:47]
mircea_popescu mtgox got flumoxxed too ? [00:48]
pigeons mircea_popescu is jealous [00:48]
dub ;;goxlag [00:48]
gribble 0 seconds [00:48]
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mircea_popescu lmao ok ok [00:48]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [00:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.90000, Best ask: 46.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 45.90000, 24 hour volume: 119925.05033138, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.19828 [00:48]
Bugpowder coinlab got flummoxed [00:48]
jcpham Ashton Kutcher’s A-Grade Investments joined with Ben Davenport and Trace Mayer in another round of seed founding for BitPay. [00:48]
BitHub thank christ for ashton kutcher [00:48]
dub ok, so with bitcoin roken, where is the bottom [00:49]
dub broken* [00:49]
mod6 lol BitHub [00:49]
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BitHub Charlie Sheen bitcoin company will be better [00:49]
iz BitHub: you'll take that back once you find out he's just punking the btc community for a new MTV series [00:49]
mircea_popescu mtv still exists ?! [00:50]
BitHub ahh so that's who's been trolling the price lately [00:50]
jcpham ^ iz may have a point [00:50]
jcpham if ashton gets to play satoshi ina bitcoin movie i'll be upset [00:50]
BitHub lulz jcpham [00:50]
BitHub holy shit [00:50]
mod6 Dude, where's my bitcoins? [00:51]
dub its gotta be ryan gosling [00:51]
pigeons mircea_popescu has a doctor evil suit [00:51]
kakobrekla tru dat. [00:52]
pigeons piefucker played a good satoshi [00:52]
mod6 dub: then all girls will want to go and see it [00:52]
BitHub would you guys ever fund a movie with bitcoins? [00:52]
dub sounds like an IPO [00:52]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 120 @ 0.22222082 = 26.6665 BTC [+] [00:52]
pigeons Richard Simmons as usagi [00:52]
mod6 LOL [00:53]
doctor_pullfingr BitHub - girlsgonebitcoin does that all the time [00:53]
BitHub i think you should fund my movie [00:53]
dub haha [00:53]
mircea_popescu BitHub i acrtually had some outfit in chicago to do me a short [00:53]
mircea_popescu sadly they flaked out. [00:53]
jcpham i asked Ashton who is going to play Satoshi [00:53]
mircea_popescu was last year. [00:53]
jcpham we'll see if he responds [00:53]
BitHub a short for what mircea? [00:53]
mircea_popescu a short film. [00:53]
jcpham https://plus.google.com/115257212064017961354/posts/Pmd1sPVby5A [00:54]
BitHub yes [00:54]
BitHub with you acting in it? [00:54]
mircea_popescu nah. [00:54]
mircea_popescu you know the "are you the brain specialist" monthy python sketch ? [00:54]
mod6 nice jcpham [00:54]
BitHub probably [00:54]
mircea_popescu so it was going to be a remake of that, except with the [00:54]
mircea_popescu Are you the Bitcoin Financialist [00:54]
BitHub i was suppose to make a short film this year to take to Robert Rodriguez and troublemaker studios for their new television network EL REY [00:55]
mircea_popescu would have been hysterical [00:55]
kakobrekla hey mircea you gonna have to switch the slogan nao https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1592841#msg1592841 [00:55]
BitHub but doing this crap instead [00:55]
mircea_popescu was just about the time the various idiots were popping post-pirate [00:55]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla the only bitcoin service hacked by the white house ? [00:55]
kakobrekla smth like dat [00:55]
pigeons i dont know anything about ianbakeweall, but kinda weird to just say, "i suspect this guy is involved in the ddos" [00:56]
* kakobrekla points bitbet dns servers to CIA [00:56]
BitHub hah mircea i'm pretty intrested in making some bitcoin commercials [00:56]
kakobrekla also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1592861#msg1592861 [00:57]
BitHub i had this one idea of like a Mr. Satoshi montage [00:57]
mod6 get the sham-wow guy [00:57]
pigeons why do they say that guy would ddos mpex? [00:57]
BitHub bakewell mining [00:59]
BitHub he's been a lil off lately [00:59]
BitHub sold my shares [00:59]
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kakobrekla he has a sock on his head [01:00]
BitHub got some jah ones instead better divs [01:00]
Bugpowder he called the S.DICE short pretty well [01:00]
kakobrekla what more do you need to know? [01:00]
Bugpowder great timing [01:00]
Bugpowder if he really did sell at .0062 [01:00]
Bugpowder instead of borrow at .0062 and not sell it in time [01:01]
pigeons well he still has to buy them back [01:01]
Bugpowder I didn't see a sale go off at .0062 of that size [01:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 0.65 = 20.8 BTC [-] [01:01]
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Namworld erhm... MPEx redirects to the whitehouse.gov website? lol... [01:01]
kakobrekla hm so acsic miner aint that hot all of a sudden? [01:01]
BitHub JAH shares atm are much better value to buy than AISCMINER and BAKEWELL [01:01]
kakobrekla asicminer-pt [01:01]
pigeons oh so the ddos comment was so that people couldnt buy up s.dice [01:02]
BitHub i dont get why you would buy asicminer shares where jah's are much better value and get roughly the same pay out div for alot cheaper [01:02]
Bugpowder does jah have asics? [01:02]
pigeons but asic right in the name! [01:02]
BitHub yep [01:02]
BitHub that's why may as well get jah [01:03]
pigeons he actually has avalons in his hands? [01:03]
Namworld BitHub: JAH has nowhere near the same potential tho... [01:03]
BitHub no avalons in his hands but his asicminer divs are kicking in [01:03]
Namworld Would go down while ASICMINER will go up in mined coins. [01:03]
pigeons so he has no asics [01:03]
Bugpowder dude [01:04]
BitHub hes got 2 on preorder [01:04]
Bugpowder DUDE [01:04]
pigeons 2 on preorder = 0 asics [01:04]
Bugpowder PREORDER IS WORTHLESS [01:04]
Bugpowder PREORDER IS FUCKED [01:04]
BitHub wait [01:04]
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Bugpowder 80% chance of worthless [01:05]
BitHub i'm getting 0.00072538btc a share atm [01:05]
dub remember they guy runnning JAH is retarded [01:05]
BitHub daily [01:05]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol @forum [01:05]
dub though that hasn't hurt dice [01:05]
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Namworld Can I short JAH? [01:05]
pigeons "coming soon" [01:05]
dub short btc [01:06]
dub were seeign $2 this week [01:06]
Namworld Currently I'd be shorting almost anything. [01:06]
BitHub it was like .06 a few weeks ago hey [01:06]
mircea_popescu Namworld just because of btc/usd ? [01:06]
BitHub now its hmmm 2.8? [01:07]
Namworld No... because those small mining ops don't look good. [01:07]
BitHub i mean 0.28 [01:07]
Namworld plus USD/BTC price just further promotes shorting [01:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00072389 = 13.9349 BTC [+] [01:07]
BitHub how much is asicminer paying per share atm? [01:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9076 @ 0.00073711 = 6.69 BTC [+] [01:07]
BitHub div wise [01:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5247 @ 0.00074548 = 3.9115 BTC [+] [01:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41427 @ 0.00074999 = 31.0698 BTC [+] [01:08]
Namworld How much Terahash is ASICMINER at now? [01:08]
mircea_popescu o hey. "mpoe surges on news of failed ddos" [01:08]
BitHub 6 or something? [01:08]
dub mircea_popescu: new of USG backing [01:08]
dub news* [01:09]
mircea_popescu o that too ya [01:09]
mircea_popescu "mpex the first bitcoin business to implement quantitative easing" [01:09]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.262 = 0.524 BTC [-] [01:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2576 = 1.288 BTC [-] [01:10]
Namworld So, anyway [01:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.255 BTC [-] [01:10]
mod6 ;;ticker [01:11]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01002, Best ask: 45.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 45.05000, 24 hour volume: 120957.15085783, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.23178 [01:11]
mircea_popescu in case anyone doesn't know what http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-05/merkel-looks-east-for-austerity-allies-in-talks-with-hollande.html is all about : [01:11]
mircea_popescu holland was forever trying to block romania's access to schengen zone [01:11]
mircea_popescu germany joined them recently [01:12]
mircea_popescu bucharest shocked them by going fu, we don't want in anymore. [01:12]
Namworld Who has mining stocks to lend me? As always I have lots of backings available and good borrowing habits. [01:12]
mircea_popescu merkel is now backpedalling. [01:12]
mircea_popescu bucharest 1 : berlin 0. [01:12]
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mod6 mircea_popescu: probably a really good call. [01:13]
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mod6 the eurozone will be the zone of misery once this thing starts to unwravel faster than it already is. [01:14]
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mod6 and no one in their right mind would want to lose soverignty to some EU technocrat [01:15]
mod6 btc ftw [01:15]
mircea_popescu yeah [01:15]
BitHub Namworld what sort of stocks? [01:15]
BitHub which mining stocks [01:16]
Namworld Pretty much anything that is not ASICMINER [01:16]
BitHub i got some jah [01:16]
BitHub i had some bakewell but got rid of them and got some jah [01:16]
Namworld Any signigicant amount? [01:17]
kakobrekla first you got baked well now you have rasta jah. in style. [01:17]
BitHub nice kako [01:17]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 750 @ 0.28155951 = 211.1696 BTC [-] [01:17]
BitHub maybe about 20 to play with nam? [01:17]
BitHub rest i'm holding [01:18]
Namworld eh, not enough for me. [01:18]
Namworld How many do you have total and how long were you planning to hold them? [01:18]
jurov finally call to miners to increase blocksize: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149668.0 [01:18]
mircea_popescu lol kakobrekla http://pastebin.com/XU3Wf9gu [01:19]
kakobrekla what [01:19]
mircea_popescu jurov hearn is a muppet. [01:19]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i enjoyed the reply. [01:19]
kakobrekla :p [01:19]
Namworld I'll just PM you [01:20]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33317 = 1.3327 BTC [-] [01:22]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] [01:23]
mircea_popescu o wait, puts trading ? [01:23]
mircea_popescu that's new. [01:23]
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BitHub philly time [01:23]
BitHub think peeps realizing, overpricing on asicminer [01:24]
BitHub at teh moment [01:24]
dub 94btc tx fee wat [01:24]
dub http://blockchain.info/tx/13dffdaef097881acfe9bdb5e6338192242d80161ffec264ee61cf23bc9a1164 [01:25]
mircea_popescu anyway, everyone got their mpex/wh screencaps etc ? [01:25]
BitHub http://mpex.co hope no one was using them! [01:26]
BitHub The White House [01:26]
BitHub made me lulz [01:26]
mod6 HEH [01:26]
mod6 pretty good depth on the ask side now... (looking at bitcoincharts.com) [01:26]
kakobrekla yes juding by the traffic, noone was using them. duh! [01:26]
kakobrekla judging [01:26]
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BitHub hahha peeps are taking this seriously [01:27]
kakobrekla was afraid of that. [01:27]
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mircea_popescu dub badly composed tx ? (insufficient outputs) [01:27]
BitHub they think mircea has becomea CIA snitch [01:27]
kakobrekla ah lone != line [01:27]
kakobrekla my bad [01:27]
BitHub lul! [01:27]
BitHub heh this is probably a huge PR for mp [01:28]
BitHub time to contact cnn news [01:28]
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Bugpowder_ I called da top [01:28]
dub mircea_popescu: nobody knows [01:28]
BitHub troll it a lil further [01:28]
dub if you want to uber troll stick up an ICE takedown [01:29]
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mircea_popescu dub sadly i was going to do that april 1st [01:30]
mircea_popescu but now it's lost all its cache ;/ [01:30]
mircea_popescu cachet* [01:30]
doctor_pullfingr Bugpowder if that's you, you called the top every 10 minutes for two months straight [01:30]
Bowjob mpex.co is .. wtf [01:30]
Bowjob did usg just sieze it? [01:30]
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Bugpowder_ dude [01:30]
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BitHub yeah its been seized [01:31]
mircea_popescu lol [01:31]
dub yeah [01:31]
BitHub run!!! [01:31]
Bugpowder_ you should redirect to an FBI 'seized domain' page [01:31]
dub mpex and bitcion protocol hacked at the same time [01:31]
mod6 well, mpex.co still goes to wh.gov so *shrug* [01:31]
doctor_pullfingr did you have shares there? [01:31]
Bugpowder_ if you really want to troll [01:31]
dub probably time to panic [01:31]
BitHub yeah do it mircea [01:31]
ineededausername huh [01:31]
Bowjob lol [01:31]
BitHub huge PR [01:31]
Bugpowder_ could this be causing the fall in BTC prices? [01:31]
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BitHub people will be like WTF MPEX? [01:31]
Bowjob ;;ticker [01:31]
Bugpowder_ AskReddit [01:31]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.30000, Best ask: 44.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 44.40000, 24 hour volume: 121935.01959325, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.24020 [01:31]
Bowjob holy shit [01:31]
dub Bugpowder_: probably the block size issue [01:31]
Bowjob we are crashing [01:31]
BitHub making a reddit post now [01:31]
dub Bugpowder_: /sprobably/hopefully [01:31]
mircea_popescu doctor_pullfingr flush your dns [01:31]
ineededausername oh no, we have lost a few hours of gains [01:32]
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Bowjob single digits [01:32]
Bugpowder_ I still need to take a pic of the Kruggerand vs 25BTC Casascius coin [01:32]
dub $2 [01:32]
Bugpowder_ would have been better at $49 [01:32]
Bugpowder_ than at 44 and falling [01:32]
ineededausername what was the news? [01:32]
dub bitcoin is broken [01:32]
BitHub tweeting fox news now mircea [01:32]
Bugpowder_ I sold [01:32]
doctor_pullfingr mircea - why? are you pointing to girlsgonebitcoin now? [01:32]
ineededausername is something happening aside from the block size problem [01:32]
mircea_popescu lol [01:32]
BitHub tweeting all the news networks [01:33]
mircea_popescu ineededausername not rly. [01:33]
Bugpowder_ ineededausername: I think its the $12 price rise in 36hours [01:33]
ineededausername oh lol [01:33]
Bugpowder_ that is NOT sustainable [01:33]
Bugpowder_ Sequester shut down MPEX [01:33]
Bowjob i feel bad now [01:33]
ineededausername yeah I'd be happy about a crash to $25 [01:33]
dub I expect a lot of people watching their transactiosn not going through [01:33]
ineededausername because that would make me feel confident about the price again [01:33]
dub seeing the devs begging miners to fix it [01:34]
BitHub i don't feel confident in mpex its been seized [01:34]
Bowjob http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01980/markets_1980043c.jpg [01:34]
mircea_popescu i personally blame nefario [01:34]
dub I heard kim dotcom is dumping [01:34]
BitHub jesus you dont want to be near that guy when he dumps [01:35]
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doctor_pullfingr Kutcher is still in though right? [01:35]
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Bowjob 49.09, the high of 2013 [01:35]
Bowjob see ya folks [01:35]
dub oh yeah theres a bitcoin movie called dude where my coins announced too [01:35]
Namworld ugh... fucking whitehouse.gov, that ain't interesting [01:36]
mod6 (15:34) < dub> I heard kim dotcom is dumping << and if you believe btctalk, he's changing his name to kim bitcoin [01:36]
ineededausername lol [01:36]
BitHub haha [01:36]
BitHub he should [01:36]
mircea_popescu why not to bit kimdoing [01:36]
mod6 yeah, Dude, where's my Bitcoins? [01:36]
BitHub kim bit [01:36]
Bugpowder_ Sold at 48.98 [01:37]
mircea_popescu bit baitboom [01:37]
Bugpowder_ and 48.5 [01:37]
BitHub kimdotcomcoin [01:37]
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Bugpowder_ and 48.0, 47.98, 46.5 46, 40.5, 40, 35.0 etc [01:37]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [01:37]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.93469, Best ask: 43.95602, Bid-ask spread: 0.02133, Last trade: 43.93469, 24 hour volume: 122933.59660769, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.23253 [01:37]
Bowjob Tsk [01:38]
deadweasel time to buy [01:38]
deadweasel i think 40 is floor maybe? unless more of the same tomorrow. [01:38]
Bugpowder_ we have erased half of today's gains [01:38]
deadweasel oh yes [01:38]
Bowjob this is actually a flash crash [01:38]
Bugpowder_ $36 [01:38]
deadweasel but it was a 10 dollar day [01:38]
Bowjob 50 later [01:38]
deadweasel or more [01:38]
Bugpowder_ The weekend is coming [01:38]
deadweasel you think 36 is settling? [01:38]
Bugpowder_ nah, I think we go back up [01:39]
dub this is awesome [01:39]
Bugpowder_ maybe we will touch 36 [01:39]
BitHub buy now [01:39]
deadweasel i know. I think we do to, if only after the weekend and the media gets through [01:39]
BitHub see a big surge in a hour [01:39]
Bugpowder_ I just wanted to take some profits [01:39]
deadweasel people will be catching on again [01:39]
Bugpowder_ been holding since $2.65 [01:39]
deadweasel smart man [01:39]
Bowjob whats going on with mpex [01:39]
Bowjob really [01:39]
Bowjob lol [01:39]
Bowjob wtf [01:39]
deadweasel can always buy in again at 36 [01:39]
Bugpowder_ I have an order [01:39]
deadweasel if it goes there [01:39]
mircea_popescu Bowjob http://mpex.coinbr.com/ [01:39]
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error4733 obama TFW [01:39]
deadweasel i bet you do! [01:39]
Bugpowder_ but I need to figure out this wash sale shit with long term vs. short term cap gains [01:40]
Bowjob lol [01:40]
Bowjob wow [01:40]
Bowjob xD [01:40]
BitHub kimdotcom just dumped [01:40]
Bugpowder_ Don't want to be taxed at 39.6% [01:40]
BitHub and it was nasty [01:40]
Bugpowder_ ;;ticker [01:40]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.86000, Best ask: 43.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 42.86000, 24 hour volume: 123951.17643418, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.21823 [01:40]
Namworld 10k to go back to 43 [01:41]
Namworld 49* [01:41]
Namworld meh [01:41]
Namworld not really a huge dump [01:41]
dub just wait [01:41]
Namworld So where's my MPEx now? [01:41]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ actually tax thing is a major disincentive to selling for many ppl. [01:41]
Bugpowder_ shouldn't S.DICE be rallying right about now??? [01:41]
Bugpowder_ mircea_popescu: no shit! [01:42]
Bugpowder_ How tha fuc am I gonna get my Tesla [01:42]
Bugpowder_ if I'm taxed at income [01:42]
Namworld S.DICE can't rally if MPEx is unavailable [01:42]
Bugpowder_ + state [01:42]
Bugpowder_ Now my mtgox account is getting moved to US [01:43]
Bugpowder_ FATCA is in effect [01:43]
Bugpowder_ FBAR is in effect [01:43]
Bugpowder_ can't hide those transactions, gotta report it. [01:43]
Bugpowder_ or risk the wrath of IRS [01:43]
mircea_popescu sucks to be you. [01:43]
Bugpowder_ I cry myself to sleep [01:43]
deadweasel make a plan, determine where/what denomination/ how to store your wealth. Find property, do the research to dtermine best course of action. [01:43]
BitHub that's terrible Bug [01:44]
mod6 and S.DICE isn't unavailble, the mpex.coinbr.com is processing orders [01:44]
Bowjob just do irl transactions, no record [01:44]
BitHub any americans want acces to a mtgox account? [01:44]
mod6 well, at least my stat went through anyway [01:44]
Namworld I can't connect to mpex.coinbr.com [01:44]
Bugpowder_ I am selling below gox on localbitcoins [01:44]
Bugpowder_ in a major metro area [01:44]
Bugpowder_ well [01:44]
Bugpowder_ not below gox right now :) [01:44]
BitHub where? [01:44]
Bugpowder_ DC [01:44]
mod6 works fine for me Namworld, just tried it again [01:44]
BitHub mmk [01:44]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [01:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.43692, Best ask: 42.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.46308, Last trade: 42.43692, 24 hour volume: 124522.10296094, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.20818 [01:44]
mircea_popescu o le wow. [01:45]
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BitHub Bugpowder i have a mtgox account [01:45]
Bugpowder_ I have one too [01:45]
BitHub want to go through me? [01:45]
Bugpowder_ no [01:45]
Bowjob http://coinlab.com/ [01:45]
BitHub i'm not us resident [01:45]
Bowjob look at the sell off [01:45]
Bugpowder_ I don't want to get fucked [01:45]
Bugpowder_ not worth the risk [01:45]
Namworld I don't have tools to trade on it I mean. I could do it manually tho [01:45]
mod6 ahh. [01:45]
BitHub you're going to get fucked by coinlab anyway [01:46]
Bugpowder_ I told all my friends to sell this morning too. [01:46]
Bugpowder_ some did [01:46]
BitHub while still wearing your pants [01:46]
BitHub at least i remove your pants first [01:46]
Bugpowder_ it will prob bounce though [01:46]
mod6 i think we're gonna retrace down to say $35, and the rally will continue [01:46]
Bugpowder_ yeah [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85433966 = 854.3397 BTC [-] [01:46]
dub I dunno [01:46]
Bugpowder_ UH OH [01:46]
mircea_popescu oho [01:46]
mircea_popescu boys and girls... this looks like the end. [01:47]
dub when news hits that the network is broken.. [01:47]
dub its gonna be a fire sale [01:47]
Bowjob network is broken? [01:47]
mod6 im still long term bullish. if it goes down low, i'll just BTFD :D [01:47]
mod6 and I don't think the network is "broken" its just piling up with tx's [01:48]
dub Bowjob: block size limit hit, transactiosn are piling up [01:48]
mod6 so one guy was asking to increase the block size [01:48]
Bowjob i vote ban S.Dice for the meantime [01:48]
Bugpowder_ That put short was profitable though right? [01:48]
Bowjob then fix the blocksize [01:48]
Bowjob then let dice have its fill [01:48]
Bowjob or at least make the bets 1 BTC min [01:48]
Bowjob stop the dust [01:48]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27233775 = 272.3378 BTC [-] [01:48]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31662031 = 316.6203 BTC [+] [01:48]
Bugpowder_ how much of dice profits are from bets below .1? [01:48]
Bowjob not a lot [01:49]
dub I think a healthy return to $2 first [01:49]
dub is what we need [01:49]
Bowjob its below 4 BTC from doogs [01:49]
Bowjob chart [01:49]
dub and when I say we I mean I [01:49]
Bugpowder_ shake out the weak hands [01:49]
Bugpowder_ lol [01:49]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ the put short was sold 1.3-1.1 iirc [01:49]
BitHub s.dice should pay higher fees [01:49]
Bugpowder_ yeah [01:49]
BitHub spamming cents [01:49]
dub s.deuce is paying higher fees as of today [01:49]
BitHub s.douche [01:49]
dub its part of the problem [01:50]
BitHub s stands for spam [01:50]
dub instead of only their txn stalling errybodys are [01:50]
mircea_popescu nobody can afford to outpay s.dice [01:50]
doctor_pullfingr maybe s.dice could charge a rpx for bets [01:50]
mircea_popescu consequently, all the libertards will get pushed out of bitcoin [01:50]
Bugpowder_ 42.00 [01:50]
mircea_popescu i'm rejoicing. [01:50]
BitHub someone should hax them for a week [01:50]
doctor_pullfingr mircea why rejoicing? [01:51]
BitHub i'm sick of sitting at cafes for 4 hours waiting for a transaction to confirm [01:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.3428 = 0.6856 BTC [-] [01:51]
Bowjob this is such a bear day [01:51]
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Bowjob i cant bear to watch this bullshit [01:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27169201 = 271.692 BTC [-] [01:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3160137 = 316.0137 BTC [-] [01:51]
mircea_popescu definitely covering [01:51]
Bugpowder_ yup [01:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5300001 BTC [-] [01:52]
Bugpowder_ 41.93 [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85593586 = 855.9359 BTC [+] [01:52]
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Bugpowder_ The dude finally made a profit [01:52]
mircea_popescu nice race too, i wonder how much they manage to squeeze through [01:52]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ he made pretty good loot, .3-4 over what, 15k ? [01:52]
Bugpowder_ yeah [01:52]
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BitHub mircea [01:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.344 = 5.16 BTC [+] [01:52]
Bugpowder_ is 24hprc even dropping yet? [01:52]
BitHub are u seeing this? [01:53]
mircea_popescu actuallly i think the calls are slightly ahead too [01:53]
mircea_popescu BitHub "this" [01:53]
BitHub otc room lulz [01:53]
mircea_popescu im not in -otc [01:53]
BitHub oh man its so lulz [01:53]
Bowjob dump dump dump USD [01:53]
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BitHub <+starsoccer> wtf do you mean cia snitch [01:54]
Bugpowder_ so which txns were stalled? All mine went thru? [01:54]
mod6 starsoccer is a scammer [01:54]
mod6 and for some reason, an op [01:54]
Bowjob http://bitbet.us/bet/283/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-hit-50-in-march/ [01:54]
BitHub mircea got raided - lul [01:55]
Bowjob lots of free btc here [01:55]
mircea_popescu mod6 bitcoin-otc "selective evaporation" succeeded. [01:55]
mod6 :] [01:55]
mircea_popescu if anyone wonders why gmaxwell is an idiot, that's it right there. [01:55]
BitHub people are really getting upset in otc mircea [01:55]
BitHub they think you're really gone haha [01:55]
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mircea_popescu lol [01:55]
mircea_popescu that they don't know about this chan i can see [01:56]
BitHub i should paste bin it for you [01:56]
mircea_popescu but they don't know twitter, either ? anything ? [01:56]
mircea_popescu so go ahead. [01:56]
BitHub i've never used it [01:56]
BitHub its funny as hell tho, main topic of discussion atm [01:56]
Bowjob someone is clearly dumping [01:56]
mod6 no dandan fled, they were just spreading disinformation [01:56]
mod6 i set 'em straight [01:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5300001 BTC [-] [01:57]
BitHub what happened to mpex.co [01:57]
dub I tried :( [18:55] bitcoinbubble: jews did mpex [01:57]
Bugpowder_ Oooohhh yeah [01:57]
Bugpowder_ 41.12 [01:57]
mircea_popescu o boy. [01:57]
BitHub lul dub [01:57]
BitHub i saw some of those [01:57]
Namworld 5k BTC purchase and we'd be back to 48... thin line... [01:57]
Namworld I'm not sure we're done rising yet. [01:57]
mod6 (15:53) <+mod6> (15:52) < danieldaniel> MPEX is gone << DDOS brought down the main site, you can get to it here: mpex.coinbr.com [01:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [+] [01:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.47 = 3.76 BTC [+] [01:58]
BitHub did mpex guy run off with the money? [01:58]
BitHub lul! [01:58]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [01:58]
gribble 471.638897 seconds [01:58]
Bowjob ;;ticker [01:58]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.11111, Best ask: 41.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38889, Last trade: 42.00000, 24 hour volume: 126252.65323883, 24 hour low: 40.14460, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.18147 [01:58]
mircea_popescu lol jesus it's gonna be a day soon [01:58]
Bowjob :( [01:58]
Bowjob just go to coinlab [01:58]
Bowjob watch the dump [01:59]
Bugpowder_ http://bitcoinity.org/markets?theme=dark [01:59]
Bugpowder_ is doing well [01:59]
blu3gr1ffon i like to watch it go up. [01:59]
BitHub "sell out to coinlab you know you want to" [01:59]
dub oh shi bitcoinity came back? [01:59]
Bowjob lol [01:59]
Bugpowder_ ya [01:59]
BitHub they should have that on their site [02:00]
Bowjob this is actually called a bear trap [02:00]
blu3gr1ffon how so? [02:00]
Namworld 7 minute lag [02:00]
Bugpowder_ LOL [02:00]
blu3gr1ffon ;;goxlag [02:00]
gribble 505.11974 seconds [02:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 420 @ 0.0046 = 1.932 BTC [-] [02:00]
Bowjob 5k buy then 48 [02:00]
blu3gr1ffon holy crap [02:00]
Bugpowder_ fastcash4bitcoins suddenly has funds available to buy again [02:00]
Bowjob lol [02:00]
Bugpowder_ I KNEW they just shut down buying into the blow off top [02:00]
BitHub heh all of a sudden hey bug [02:00]
Bugpowder_ they had funds all along :) [02:00]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ prolly ppl sold to them tho [02:01]
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Bugpowder_ mircea_popescu: [02:01]
Bugpowder_ Bot from them [02:01]
Bugpowder_ and only via bitcoinsdirect [02:01]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27153039 = 271.5304 BTC [-] [02:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.12100, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.77900, Last trade: 41.02010, 24 hour volume: 126502.71591685, 24 hour low: 40.30100, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.17366 [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31586188 = 315.8619 BTC [-] [02:01]
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Bugpowder_ which is an email based service, so I doubt it. [02:01]
thestringpuller hahahahahahahahahabaha [02:01]
Bowjob we just hit under 41 [02:01]
Bowjob its a market manipulator [02:01]
thestringpuller the algorithm worked!!!!! [02:01]
Bugpowder_ Annoyed that I didn't sell more [02:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [+] [02:02]
Bowjob http://coinlab.com/ [02:02]
Bowjob watch this [02:02]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ i didn't sell any. [02:02]
Bugpowder_ didn't want trigger fatca [02:02]
mod6 check out the depth now though: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html [02:02]
Bowjob fuck that fuckta [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85630842 = 856.3084 BTC [+] [02:02]
Bowjob who cares [02:02]
Bowjob lol [02:02]
mod6 i think we're going right backup [02:02]
Bowjob we just hot $40 [02:02]
Bowjob https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ [02:03]
Bowjob Canadian bitcoins.. buy $55.. sell $42 [02:03]
Bowjob ol [02:03]
blu3gr1ffon forty, wow. [02:03]
Bowjob $39 [02:03]
jurov 10 minute lag... and bitcoincharts not with out either [02:03]
thestringpuller ;;market sell 10000 [02:03]
Bugpowder_ hmm... wonder if my mtgox bids actually got cancells [02:03]
Bugpowder_ or not [02:04]
thestringpuller ;;market sell 100000 [02:04]
gribble A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 392180.3720 USD and would take the last price down to 37.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 39.2180 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds [02:04]
gribble A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2549350.7477 USD and would take the last price down to 14.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 25.4935 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds [02:04]
Bugpowder_ 39.5 [02:04]
thestringpuller ick thank you gribble [02:04]
jurov ooooh quite a difference [02:04]
thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX [02:04]
thestringpuller 42 is the real price [02:05]
assbot I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly. [02:05]
thestringpuller assbot.... [02:05]
dub ;;obip 1000 [02:05]
gribble The weighted average price of BTC, 1000.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 41.38470 USD. | Data vintage: 86.2046 seconds [02:05]
blu3gr1ffon i'm glad it's happening now. [02:05]
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mircea_popescu "^OIX": "7d": {"avg": "4746815366","min": "3024983876","max": "4950599490","vsh": "no","vsa": "1.89472677534E+12","cnt": ""} [02:05]
blu3gr1ffon it's been too nuts lately. need some stability [02:06]
mircea_popescu ftr. [02:06]
thestringpuller we still at 47 on OIX hmm [02:06]
Bowjob you can still sell bitcoins at 47 dollars each [02:07]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 200 @ 0.05329654 = 10.6593 BTC [-] [02:07]
doctor_pullfingr mircea - I thought you were in jail? [02:07]
Bowjob i mean [02:07]
Bowjob 43. [02:07]
jurov pssst, gox is falling [02:07]
mircea_popescu doctor_pullfingr me ? [02:07]
jurov seems the lag grows faster than clock time [02:07]
mircea_popescu jurov cheeze [02:07]
jurov ;;goxlag [02:07]
gribble 814.286864 seconds [02:07]
blu3gr1ffon lol [02:07]
Namworld xD [02:08]
kakobrekla mpex deposits - faster than mtgox trading engine. [02:08]
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blu3gr1ffon 36 does seem right Bugpowder_ [02:08]
blu3gr1ffon then up from there [02:09]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ya but mtgox is free* [02:09]
thestringpuller mpex is free too [02:09]
kakobrekla its free to read. [02:10]
thestringpuller if you know the right people [02:10]
thestringpuller :) [02:10]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85668542 = 856.6854 BTC [+] [02:10]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27136871 = 271.3687 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31571 = 315.71 BTC [-] [02:11]
Bugpowder_ OOOOooooooo [02:11]
nanotube mircea_popescu: mpex seems inaccessible atm? [02:11]
blu3gr1ffon so is coinbase out of btc? [02:12]
Bugpowder_ here we go [02:12]
Bugpowder_ 28.5 [02:12]
Bugpowder_ 38.5 [02:12]
Bugpowder_ hehehe [02:12]
blu3gr1ffon haha [02:12]
mircea_popescu nanotube main site is being ddosed. use proxies [02:12]
mircea_popescu mpex.coinbr.com etc. [02:12]
kakobrekla >Bitcoin Price Reaches All-Time High after Mt. Gox Announces CoinLab Partnership [02:12]
kakobrekla yeah, i also farted twice before the high. [02:12]
Bugpowder_ So funny, coinlab didn't even have a chance to fuck it up [02:12]
nanotube mircea_popescu: ah, didn't know there were proxies. :) [02:12]
Bugpowder_ I wonder if my bids will get hit? [02:13]
mircea_popescu nanotube https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/309349518632157185 [02:13]
Bugpowder_ This is definitely a bad time for a market order [02:13]
jurov seems for mtgox is easier to split US off than to fix their engine [02:13]
Namworld this trend could revert in an instead like all the previous rises [02:14]
mircea_popescu Namworld true. [02:14]
Bugpowder_ will my bids clear in time to catch the dump? [02:14]
Bugpowder_ Namworld, the last 48 hours were very very simlar to last top [02:14]
Bugpowder_ rise of over $10 in a day [02:14]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:14]
Namworld eh, who knows [02:15]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.89000, Best ask: 39.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 39.89000, 24 hour volume: 133904.00033926, 24 hour low: 38.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.87318 [02:15]
Bowjob fuck [02:15]
Bugpowder_ broke the 40 like nothing [02:15]
Bugpowder_ the 36 is the real support though [02:15]
Bugpowder_ err 35 [02:15]
kakobrekla 34 [02:15]
Bugpowder_ ya [02:16]
mircea_popescu 12 [02:16]
Bugpowder_ 33 [02:16]
Bugpowder_ 13.5 [02:16]
kakobrekla no, 34. [02:16]
Bugpowder_ 34 from the chart, 33 from the bids [02:16]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:17]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.25000, Best ask: 39.90000, Bid-ask spread: 1.65000, Last trade: 39.90000, 24 hour volume: 134097.13923724, 24 hour low: 38.25000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.85953 [02:17]
nanotube mircea_popescu: ah cool. so i presume your twitter will keep listing the latest proxies? [02:17]
mircea_popescu nanotube if need be, yeah. or here. [02:17]
nanotube mmk [02:18]
Bugpowder_ this is what happens when 100 people hit SELL MARKET at the same time [02:18]
Bugpowder_ some bit now at 40.2 [02:18]
Bugpowder_ bid [02:18]
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hctib hello [02:20]
hctib what's the damage? [02:20]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:20]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [02:20]
mircea_popescu mtgox exploded [02:20]
hctib 40.4 is my best guess at the ticker [02:20]
hctib and mpex? [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23556839 = 235.5684 BTC [-] [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26615673 = 266.1567 BTC [-] [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3108139 = 310.8139 BTC [-] [02:21]
mircea_popescu hctib ppl are covering long positions desperately for the past hour or so [02:21]
error4733 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149803.msg1591395#msg1591395 [02:22]
error4733 nice read [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.86980593 = 869.8059 BTC [+] [02:22]
jurov lol slush saw the mpex page and said "alpaca socks eshop was never hacked, too." [02:22]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.89000, Best ask: 40.51000, Bid-ask spread: 0.62000, Last trade: 39.89000, 24 hour volume: 137698.19346541, 24 hour low: 38.00100, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.72163 [02:23]
mircea_popescu jurov yes but he's sore, cause he got linoded. [02:23]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what is your private key? [02:23]
thestringpuller lol [02:23]
mircea_popescu but tell him i said his pool never saw as much btc as mpex saw this year alone. [02:23]
Bugpowder_ nice, bids finnally are open [02:24]
Bugpowder_ probably will bounce now :) [02:25]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:25]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [02:25]
gribble 469.590851 seconds [02:25]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [02:25]
kakobrekla still whole infrastructure is falling apart [02:25]
kakobrekla when major movements happen [02:25]
kakobrekla unserious [02:26]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla this is true. [02:26]
Bowjob ;ticker [02:26]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.00100, Best ask: 38.03130, Bid-ask spread: 0.03030, Last trade: 38.03130, 24 hour volume: 138552.24765830, 24 hour low: 37.90000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.68042 [02:26]
mircea_popescu funny thing is, the 49-39 drop happened on 30k bitcoins worht of volume [02:27]
mircea_popescu which is like jackshit [02:27]
Bugpowder_ http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png is STALE [02:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [+] [02:28]
kakobrekla everything is broke [02:28]
kakobrekla txes dont get confirmed [02:28]
kakobrekla goxlag is days [02:28]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla mpex trades! [02:29]
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kakobrekla last price uknown [02:29]
dub a LOT more coin jsut showed up for sale [02:29]
kakobrekla unknown [02:29]
jurov kakobrekla can't you just make assbot query proxy address? [02:29]
dub if it bounces its only gonna be for a minute [02:29]
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kakobrekla some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night. [02:30]
dub fucking pastebin down too [02:30]
dub shit is fucked up [02:30]
blu3gr1ffon dub, what do you mean it will only bounec for a minute? [02:31]
mircea_popescu Why is your site redirecting to the whitehouse? I thought it was secure? [02:31]
mircea_popescu Whitehouse was hacked. [02:31]
mircea_popescu lmao [02:31]
dub I think some people realised they might miss out on selling at 50, a shitload more asks showed up there recently, presumably to catch teh bounce [02:32]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [02:32]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [02:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.87894633 = 878.9463 BTC [+] [02:32]
Bowjob hold on tight, we are bouncing back [02:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23360747 = 233.6075 BTC [-] [02:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26253021 = 262.5302 BTC [-] [02:32]
Bowjob panic selling and panic buying is always a bad idea [02:33]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.30740716 = 307.4072 BTC [-] [02:33]
kakobrekla after someone makes a fast trading engine [02:33]
mircea_popescu tell it to the options ppl lol [02:33]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:33]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [02:33]
Bowjob thats cuz someone dumped USD [02:33]
mircea_popescu mtgox is becoming as useful as bitcoinica. [02:33]
Bowjob it caused BTC to go billions [02:33]
hctib I can't connect to mpex.co [02:33]
Bowjob cant we have an anonymous exchange [02:34]
dub kakobrekla: perhaps something in teh /topic? [02:34]
mircea_popescu hctib mpex.coinbr.com [02:34]
Bowjob and an anonymous debit card [02:34]
Bowjob .. [02:34]
hctib thanks [02:34]
kakobrekla dub noone reads that [02:34]
dub but right now we cant go READ TEH FUCKING TOPIC [02:34]
mircea_popescu dub misses his creature conforts. [02:34]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [02:35]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.00000, Best ask: 38.00190, Bid-ask spread: 1.00190, Last trade: 37.00000, 24 hour volume: 142568.29851439, 24 hour low: 37.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.49249 [02:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1573 = 15.73 BTC [-] [02:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [-] [02:36]
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mircea_popescu i thought you were gonna go CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://whitehouse.gov [02:38]
kakobrekla :p [02:38]
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dub it'd sure be nice to trade on this [02:39]
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dub oh hey gox farted out an update [02:41]
dub Mar07 00:33:45 mtgox x499 5,774.6084 @ 37.8195421 USD [02:41]
jurov coinbr keeps getting mpex deposits as if nothing was happening [02:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67800 @ 0.00073204 = 49.6323 BTC [-] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67800 @ 0.00073204 = 49.6323 BTC [-] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8573 @ 0.00074999 = 6.4297 BTC [+] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8573 @ 0.00074999 = 6.4297 BTC [+] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6515 @ 0.00074999 = 4.8862 BTC [+] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6515 @ 0.00074999 = 4.8862 BTC [+] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1817112 @ 0.00075 = 1362.834 BTC [+] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1817112 @ 0.00075 = 1362.834 BTC [+] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 10 @ 0.05264551 = 0.5265 BTC [-] [02:42]
jurov business.as.usual [02:42]
mircea_popescu lol now there's an echo ? [02:42]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:42]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31000, Best ask: 37.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.69000, Last trade: 36.31000, 24 hour volume: 146035.97593336, 24 hour low: 36.31000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.31001 [02:42]
Bowjob damn [02:43]
Bowjob i shoulda listned to bug that time [02:44]
Bowjob lol [02:44]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 200 @ 0.05608295 = 11.2166 BTC [+] [02:45]
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mircea_popescu o nelly [02:47]
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jcpham y hello [02:47]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23340951 = 233.4095 BTC [-] [02:47]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26219875 = 262.1988 BTC [-] [02:47]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3070958 = 307.0958 BTC [-] [02:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 76 @ 0.65 = 49.4 BTC [-] [02:48]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.87975412 = 879.7541 BTC [+] [02:48]
dub mpex making banque [02:48]
Eduard_Munteanu mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HruSsPKVjuc :P [02:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] [02:49]
Eduard_Munteanu s/copacul/bitcoinul/ [02:49]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.15664416 = 156.6442 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.17343444 = 173.4344 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.19179501 = 191.795 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.2117738 = 211.7738 BTC [-] [02:49]
mircea_popescu ohoho. capitulation eh [02:49]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23340951 = 233.4095 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26219875 = 262.1988 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3070958 = 307.0958 BTC [-] [02:49]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:50]
Bowjob gah [02:51]
Bowjob fuck [02:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.425 = 2.975 BTC [-] [02:51]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31000, Best ask: 36.34608, Bid-ask spread: 0.03608, Last trade: 36.31000, 24 hour volume: 157207.79114001, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.69425 [02:51]
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Eduard_Munteanu I should really go play a game or something, else I might do something stupid like buy in again too early. [02:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+] [02:51]
* Eduard_Munteanu sold at 48.5 [02:51]
jcpham i did some profit taking at 50 otc [02:51]
Bowjob http://blockchain.info/tx/13dffdaef097881acfe9bdb5e6338192242d80161ffec264ee61cf23bc9a1164 [02:51]
Bowjob Look at this guys [02:52]
jcpham which i am mildly proud of [02:52]
jurov maybe start buying slowly [02:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.44 = 14.4 BTC [-] [02:52]
Bowjob bug [02:52]
Bowjob dude [02:52]
Bowjob how did u see that coming [02:52]
Bowjob wtf [02:52]
jcpham eligius mined it [02:52]
Bowjob i woulda believed u honestly if u didnt buy puts and got killed [02:52]
jcpham i asked luke [02:52]
Eduard_Munteanu I'm worried bad news might hit US, then Europe by tommorow and they'll sell further. The market depth is rather pathetic. [02:52]
jcpham eligius mined the 95btc txn block [02:52]
mircea_popescu Eduard_Munteanu and to think ppl were whining about s.dice mkt depth [02:52]
Eduard_Munteanu mircea_popescu: market depth seemed much better before we hit $40 [02:53]
Eduard_Munteanu Like, a couple of days ago. [02:53]
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blu3gr1ffon yup, coinbase is empty [02:53]
dub this is glorious [02:53]
blu3gr1ffon how do I get BTC now? [02:53]
Eduard_Munteanu blu3gr1ffon: mtgox? [02:54]
dub why would you want it? [02:54]
Eduard_Munteanu Oh, you have USD. [02:54]
mircea_popescu blu3gr1ffon you can't, it has to crash for the iluminati to make bank first. [02:54]
blu3gr1ffon oh fuck it [02:54]
dub there will be plenty for everyone under $1 [02:54]
jcpham hahahaha dub [02:54]
blu3gr1ffon hooray? :/ [02:54]
mircea_popescu fudb [02:54]
dub shh [02:54]
jcpham hooray if you sold today [02:55]
jcpham not hooray if you bought [02:55]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.00000, Best ask: 35.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 35.60000, 24 hour volume: 157738.28216881, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.65915 [02:55]
Bowjob Wow [02:55]
mircea_popescu le 35 [02:55]
Bowjob I can't watch [02:55]
Bowjob it hurts [02:55]
jcpham hge haircut today for any buyer [02:55]
mircea_popescu teaches them to buy into scams. [02:55]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [02:55]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [02:55]
blu3gr1ffon so laggy it's broken [02:56]
jcpham buy before noon, lose %20 by dinner [02:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] [02:56]
dub ;;calc 157738*43.66 [02:57]
gribble 6886841.08 [02:57]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [02:57]
dub record? [02:57]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [02:57]
jcpham borked [02:57]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:57]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.10667, Best ask: 35.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.88333, Last trade: 34.70000, 24 hour volume: 157860.94560379, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.64208 [02:57]
error4733 7M$ wow [02:57]
dub USD$7m volume [02:57]
Bowjob capitulation [02:59]
dub this is not france [02:59]
dub this is BITCOIIIIIN [02:59]
blu3gr1ffon parlay! [02:59]
Bowjob RIP guys, see you at single digits [03:00]
blu3gr1ffon to change! [03:00]
mircea_popescu abnd now the mpoe bot can't quote anymore because the pricefeed finally died. [03:00]
mircea_popescu somebody needs to make a motherfucking exchange. [03:01]
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jurov it doesn't use bitcoincharts? [03:01]
dub nah, just use one from magic teh gathering, It'll do [03:01]
mircea_popescu jurov mpioe ? yes. [03:02]
Bowjob i wanna ignore bitcoin [03:02]
Bowjob like for a mont [03:02]
Bowjob its hard [03:02]
Bowjob lol [03:02]
assbot want some help? [03:02]
mod6 ahh 34! [03:02]
jurov !ticker m s.mpoe [03:02]
Bowjob ;;ticker [03:03]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [03:03]
Bowjob yeap, back to where we started [03:03]
gribble 217.923764 seconds [03:03]
assbot It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. [03:03]
mod6 ups and downs. [03:03]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [03:03]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [03:03]
gribble 185.819061 seconds [03:03]
jurov assbot, you better watch ur own stuff [03:03]
assbot Whitehouse does not know S.MPOE. [03:04]
error4733 omg [03:04]
jurov live.coinbr.com does. shame on you [03:04]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [03:04]
gribble 1 BTC = 34.40000 U.S. dollars = 26.3945369 Euros [03:04]
Namworld what happened to options? [03:05]
mod6 (17:04) <@assbot> Whitehouse does not know S.MPOE. << O.O ?! LOL [03:05]
mircea_popescu lmao [03:05]
jurov Namworld, 1. whale dumped them [03:05]
jurov 2. mpoe bot doesn't know what the price is [03:05]
jurov due to general breakage [03:05]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [03:06]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [03:06]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [03:06]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [03:06]
kakobrekla facepalm [03:07]
mircea_popescu lag to retrieving lag : 500 seconds [03:07]
Bowjob ;;ticker [03:07]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.42000, Best ask: 35.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.07800, Last trade: 35.42000, 24 hour volume: 162587.00601570, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.31335 [03:07]
Bowjob well fuck [03:07]
Bowjob ill bury my coins [03:07]
Bowjob be right [03:07]
kakobrekla 33.something on stamp [03:07]
Bowjob back [03:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.91703169 = 917.0317 BTC [+] [03:10]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [03:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.87188, Best ask: 35.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12812, Last trade: 35.00000, 24 hour volume: 163347.55998439, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.27533 [03:10]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [03:10]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [03:10]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18440754 = 184.4075 BTC [-] [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20415297 = 204.153 BTC [-] [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22560969 = 225.6097 BTC [-] [03:11]
mircea_popescu a ok we be back [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24880864 = 248.8086 BTC [-] [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.2932762 = 293.2762 BTC [-] [03:11]
mircea_popescu crazy shit, 43.8 vwap [03:11]
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Bugpowder Got filled. Now bounce dammit! [03:12]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 82 @ 0.06075508 = 4.9819 BTC [+] [03:12]
kakobrekla where at [03:12]
Bugpowder 36.33 and maybe 35, don't remember. Had a 33.33 too but not hit yet [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 255 @ 0.06075508 = 15.4925 BTC [+] [03:13]
mircea_popescu p31 selling srsly ? [03:13]
dub ;;goxlag [03:14]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [03:14]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [03:14]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [03:14]
mircea_popescu ;;goxfag [03:15]
gribble Error: "goxfag" is not a valid command. [03:15]
mircea_popescu orly. [03:15]
mircea_popescu like the other is. [03:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00899 BTC [+] [03:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 19 @ 0.009 = 0.171 BTC [+] [03:15]
jurov gribble chokes on something in https://mtgox.com/api/1/generic/order/lag [03:15]
AndroUser512 Whoa why is btc so low? [03:16]
mircea_popescu AndroUser512 because white house hacked mpex [03:16]
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AndroUser512 Nah [03:16]
assbot [MPEX] [WHITEHOUSE] 1 @ 0.1337 [+] [03:16]
jurov !ticker m whitehouse [03:17]
Bugpowder Yesss [03:17]
assbot I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. [03:17]
Bugpowder Holy shit! Ingot filled at 33.35 [03:18]
mircea_popescu 10k ? [03:18]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [03:18]
gribble 24.677975 seconds [03:18]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [03:18]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.16249, Best ask: 37.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.83751, Last trade: 37.00000, 24 hour volume: 167512.14667412, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.08314 [03:18]
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Bugpowder 33.335 actually [03:18]
Bugpowder I am [03:18]
Bugpowder In the zone [03:18]
jurov ineresting, bitcoinity thinks lag is 18s and price going up to 38 [03:19]
kakobrekla 37 on stamp [03:20]
kakobrekla from 33 [03:20]
kakobrekla first rebounce [03:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18362231 = 183.6223 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20334305 = 203.3431 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22478093 = 224.7809 BTC [-] [03:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24796781 = 247.9678 BTC [-] [03:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29181519 = 291.8152 BTC [-] [03:21]
AndroUser512 But for real did something notable happen or is this a good ole correction? Im mobile n cant research atm [03:21]
kakobrekla 40 at stamp [03:21]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [03:21]
mircea_popescu AndroUser512 nothing really happened. [03:21]
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gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.14195, Best ask: 39.47423, Bid-ask spread: 2.33228, Last trade: 39.47423, 24 hour volume: 168473.22517826, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.05309 [03:21]
AndroUser512 Thx [03:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.92096486 = 920.9649 BTC [+] [03:21]
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jurov AndroUser512 Maybe something behind scenes with coinlab or so. [03:22]
Chaang-Noi bulls on parade! [03:22]
kakobrekla 42 on stamp hehe [03:23]
Chaang-Noi sp gpx dead? [03:23]
Chaang-Noi btc-e is higher than gox? oh lol [03:24]
Chaang-Noi gox really does seem dead? [03:27]
Chaang-Noi ;;gox lag [03:27]
gribble Error: "gox" is not a valid command. [03:27]
dub yeah it is [03:27]
Chaang-Noi ;;goxlag [03:27]
gribble 288.353468 seconds [03:27]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [03:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.47800, Best ask: 39.87296, Bid-ask spread: 0.39496, Last trade: 39.87296, 24 hour volume: 164990.11107081, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.09008 [03:27]
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Chaang-Noi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4 [03:29]
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Chaang-Noi okay we need to really start a collection fuind for mt gox to get them new hardware... [03:31]
kakobrekla like any hw can fix that. [03:31]
Chaang-Noi what does the nyse have? [03:31]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla 3-4k btc didn't help the forum [03:32]
Chaang-Noi also is it not a hardware issue? where they hacked? [03:32]
kakobrekla its a sw issue [03:32]
mircea_popescu if you can't get a forum to run stable out of > 100k usd, mtgox is outside of what the world can affoerd [03:32]
Chaang-Noi oh [03:32]
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Chaang-Noi i wonder if theymos just kept/spent the fourm money, his plan of fractional reserves i was lik ewtf... [03:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.92093144 = 920.9314 BTC [-] [03:32]
mircea_popescu his what ? [03:32]
kakobrekla he invested in bitcoinica or asic [03:33]
kakobrekla im sure [03:33]
mod6 lol bitcoinica [03:33]
Chaang-Noi he was going to let people hold some of the funds but let them spend them... [03:33]
Chaang-Noi i was thinking yeah, he is doing that so he can, its retarded [03:33]
dub he's best buddies with interscamgo and nefario [03:33]
dub so its probably invested there [03:33]
Chaang-Noi he is no longer friends with nefario lol [03:33]
Chaang-Noi theymos holds glbse money [03:34]
Chaang-Noi im pretty sure... [03:34]
dub be great if he could refund me [03:34]
Chaang-Noi he was just saying how if neferio lost his keys theymos cant release the money [03:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00072486 = 7.7198 BTC [-] [03:34]
Chaang-Noi theymos, lol... [03:34]
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dub ;;ticker [03:35]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.91161, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08839, Last trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 166111.09431322, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.05643 [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14910824 = 149.1082 BTC [-] [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.16554201 = 165.542 BTC [-] [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18359431 = 183.5943 BTC [-] [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20331669 = 203.3167 BTC [-] [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22475653 = 224.7565 BTC [-] [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24794567 = 247.9457 BTC [-] [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29181519 = 291.8152 BTC [-] [03:35]
Pasko_ ;;goxlag [03:37]
gribble 356.354255 seconds [03:37]
joallard bluh [03:37]
Namworld Seriously... [03:37]
Chaang-Noi yeah [03:37]
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Chaang-Noi gox seems dead... like dead dead [03:38]
Namworld I'm freakin exhausted by this freakin never fixed lag issues. [03:38]
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Namworld It just keeps happening again and again and again [03:38]
mod6 well, there are 69,000 people hitting refresh on gox [03:38]
mod6 so... [03:38]
Chaang-Noi yeah im doing f5 over and over about as fast as i cant type :) [03:38]
Namworld Should hardly be an issue with a proper setup. [03:39]
Chaang-Noi agree [03:39]
Namworld With on demand nodes filling in for demand. [03:39]
Chaang-Noi oh well coinlab will take over anyway [03:39]
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Namworld Elastic computing... [03:39]
jurov even reddit noticed: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19szhx/mpexco_is_redirecting_to_whitehousegov/ [03:40]
pigeons cheap PR [03:41]
jurov yea, but nobody was around to explain them what happened for 2 hours [03:42]
jurov that's abput their attn span [03:42]
jurov *about [03:42]
dub wait noagendamarket is eskimobob? [03:42]
jcpham hahahha [03:42]
Chaang-Noi was mpex hacked? [03:42]
pigeons he's not but that would be good [03:43]
Namworld nope, was not [03:43]
jurov Chaang-Noi, no it was just bought by coinbr [03:43]
Namworld lol jurov... right... [03:43]
Chaang-Noi what? [03:43]
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pigeons us mpex customers now need to use coinlab [03:43]
Chaang-Noi lol [03:43]
Namworld Chaang: being DDoS'ed [03:43]
Chaang-Noi cant take this trolling before coffee:) [03:43]
jurov Chaang-Noi read my comment on reddit [03:43]
Chaang-Noi ahh okay thanks [03:43]
Namworld so mpex.co now redirects to whitehouse.gov [03:43]
jurov it's tldr [03:43]
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Namworld you can access using mpex.coinbr.com for now [03:44]
Namworld which proxies the backend [03:44]
dub jurov: how about my comment [03:44]
Namworld only the mpex.co frontend is being DDoS'ed [03:44]
Namworld I think [03:44]
* BitHub protects the backend at all costs [03:44]
Chaang-Noi oh lol, they redirected the attack to the whitehouse? is that a good idea? :) [03:44]
dub its an idea [03:45]
Chaang-Noi yes it is:) [03:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14908358 = 149.0836 BTC [-] [03:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.16551813 = 165.5181 BTC [-] [03:45]
dub we have had no word of a drone strike to date [03:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18357148 = 183.5715 BTC [-] [03:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20329519 = 203.2952 BTC [-] [03:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22473663 = 224.7366 BTC [-] [03:46]
jurov Namworld if this causes to overstep my bitvps bandwidth, or causes bitvps to be included in ddos outright [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 18 @ 0.24792761 = 4.4627 BTC [-] [03:46]
jurov what will you do? [03:46]
dub eww coinbr is on bitvps? [03:46]
jurov jeeez [03:46]
* mircea_popescu shoots pigeons with a rusty fork [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.9209042 = 920.9042 BTC [-] [03:47]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi what can it hurt ? ddoser gets to be first drone victim ? [03:48]
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Namworld i would be surprised, jurov [03:48]
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jurov lmao [03:48]
Chaang-Noi mp, they might think you are part of the attack [03:48]
Chaang-Noi i know how americans with drones think.... [03:48]
jcpham easy to explain [03:49]
jcpham just say you meant whitehouse.com [03:49]
Chaang-Noi not that anything will come of it but still [03:49]
jcpham total typo [03:49]
mircea_popescu i thought the sec was watching this chan [03:49]
mircea_popescu what, they lack reading comprehension ? [03:49]
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Chaang-Noi who told you sec was here? [03:49]
Chaang-Noi and why would they be here? [03:49]
Chaang-Noi fbi/dea maybe but sec? lol [03:50]
mircea_popescu nefario. [03:50]
Bowjob ;;ticker [03:52]
Chaang-Noi hmm, i highly doubt they can get decent evidance from this chan [03:52]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.00000, Best ask: 41.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.92000, Last trade: 41.00000, 24 hour volume: 167242.60774519, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.02128 [03:52]
Bowjob $41 now wtf [03:52]
Bowjob is going on [03:52]
dub bitcoin [03:52]
Chaang-Noi in a stong bull market corrects are sharp and fast bowjob [03:52]
Bowjob I just sait it out [03:53]
Bowjob *sat [03:53]
jurov in case of drone strike i'm using human shield [03:53]
Bowjob none of this bullshit panic buy and sell [03:53]
Chaang-Noi oh, i thought we were going to buy back in at $36? [03:53]
jurov they have built here insanely dense residential blocks , like 10k people per square kilometer [03:53]
Bowjob I got burned 800 dollars [03:53]
Bowjob fuck that [03:53]
jurov and i'm sitting inthe middle [03:53]
Bowjob no more panic sell [03:53]
Bowjob and panic buy [03:53]
Chaang-Noi 800 dollars? its just fiat anyway... [03:53]
dub jurov: ask pakistan how that worked out [03:53]
Bowjob well it was unrealized gain [03:53]
Bowjob so its all good [03:53]
Bowjob lol [03:53]
mircea_popescu dub has a point. [03:54]
Bowjob man [03:54]
Bowjob some of my classmates have babies now [03:54]
Bowjob wtf [03:54]
Bowjob i've known them since second grade.. i still remember those days [03:54]
Bowjob .. wtf time [03:54]
Chaang-Noi you dont know how sex works? [03:54]
Bowjob stahp [03:54]
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Bowjob no, just saying. if i could wake up as a third grader, i could blend in [03:55]
Bowjob lol [03:55]
mircea_popescu http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/global-slavery-by-the-numbers/?smid=tw-nytimesbits&seid=auto [03:55]
Bowjob just with 12 extra years of exp [03:55]
Chaang-Noi would be odd trying to date a 3rd grader however... [03:55]
jurov at least such casualties need obama's signature. mircea i doubt you have 30 girls around you in the mansion at all times [03:55]
mircea_popescu While slavery is illegal across the globe, the SumAll Foundation noted, there are 27 million slaves worldwide, more than in 1860, when there were 25 million. [03:55]
mircea_popescu this is like... lincoln won the war on slavery. [03:55]
pigeons praise be upon him [03:56]
Chaang-Noi Sexual slavery brings the slave’s owner $18,000 over the slave’s working life in Thailand (this used to be a big problem, they used to go around in van and steal kids) [03:56]
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Bowjob it woulda nice to panic sell for a bit [03:57]
Bowjob then bought back [03:57]
Bowjob lol [03:57]
Bowjob mammon has a huge grip on us [03:57]
Bowjob its delicious [03:57]
Bowjob we are all going burn in hell for it. might as well enjoy life [03:57]
Bowjob hehe [03:57]
jurov third grader, ic [03:57]
mircea_popescu !!Please note!! that the Bitcoin value is changing in daily basis! Therefore the price might also change if the invoice is not paid right away! [03:59]
mircea_popescu Reference Number: 11714 [03:59]
mircea_popescu Error getting json fileThe current exchange rate we accept for Bitcoin: [03:59]
mircea_popescu 1 BTC = -0.3 USD [03:59]
mircea_popescu what the fucking fuck. [03:59]
mircea_popescu 100 btc for 30 bux ? rly ?! [03:59]
Chaang-Noi where? [03:59]
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grubles i, too, have heard the sec watches this chan [03:59]
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Bowjob where [03:59]
Bowjob ill buy it [04:00]
grubles <_< >_> [04:00]
pigeons I heard they are wondering about goat [04:00]
Chaang-Noi they have been trying to talk to me [04:00]
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mircea_popescu some dumbass "orangesite" hoster [04:00]
pigeons they want some insured pass through [04:00]
mircea_popescu wants to charge me 100 btc for 30 bux [04:00]
Chaang-Noi yeah, that insured ppt cost me pigeons, that was some fail [04:01]
Chaang-Noi did you buy into that? [04:01]
pigeons no [04:01]
mircea_popescu http://www.btcwebhost.com/cart.php?a=view [04:02]
mircea_popescu emote server or file not found [04:02]
Chaang-Noi well i paid it back quickly [04:02]
mircea_popescu dude bitcoin hiosting is a joke. [04:02]
dub namecheap takes btc nao [04:03]
dub and does hosting in addition to names [04:03]
Chaang-Noi i heart namecheap cant wait to pay next bill [04:03]
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mircea_popescu dub i been hosting with nc since 2001 i think [04:04]
mircea_popescu but i won't host there [04:04]
Chaang-Noi action at gox now, a bit, near 42 [04:04]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.91731637 = 917.3164 BTC [-] [04:04]
Guest4040 yeah, trying to get my sells in [04:04]
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kakobrekla 45 on stamp [04:05]
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Chaang-Noi glad we got that correction out of the way [04:05]
Bowjob_ that was merely a bear trap [04:05]
mircea_popescu # You did not enter your first name # You did not enter your last name # You did not enter your email address # You did not enter your address (line 1) # You did not enter your city # You did not enter your state # You did not enter your postcode # You did not enter your phone number # You are required to enter a security answer # You did not enter a password # Date of Birth is required # [04:06]
mircea_popescu dude srlsy ?! [04:06]
mircea_popescu bitcoin hosting, date of birth is required ? [04:06]
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mircea_popescu what is WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE [04:06]
Bugpowdrrr sweeeet. [04:06]
jurov you forgot gender and boob size [04:06]
[\] https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/309345069461303296 [04:07]
[\] didn't pirate say the same thing? [04:07]
jcpham pretty sure he did [04:08]
jcpham maybe i've heard gmaxwell say it too [04:08]
jcpham you think they are all the same person [\] [04:08]
[\] duh! [04:08]
jcpham man what a trip [04:08]
Bugpowdrrr 43.15 [04:09]
dub gavin gonna jump ship [04:09]
Bugpowdrrr Got out on the bouuuuunce [04:09]
Chaang-Noi lol war in the dev leadership we dont know about? [04:09]
dub sould you want to work with those toolbags? [04:10]
dub would* [04:10]
smickles so ;;ticker [04:10]
smickles ;;ticker [04:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50001, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39999, Last trade: 41.90000, 24 hour volume: 169395.11137261, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01063 [04:10]
Bowjob_ what dev war lol [04:10]
Bowjob_ ;;ticker [04:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50001, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39999, Last trade: 41.90000, 24 hour volume: 169388.95028261, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01069 [04:10]
Bugpowdrrr probably will fade back down from here... [04:11]
Chaang-Noi gavin just seemed like grumbelinz, but you know he has coins.. he gots to be a rich guy by now [04:11]
mircea_popescu how do you know he got coins ? [04:12]
[\] because satoshi [04:12]
Chaang-Noi i dont know he has coins, but i highly suspect [04:12]
Bowjob_ well he probably has coins since he gave away a fuckton [04:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21961 @ 0.00075 = 16.4708 BTC [+] [04:13]
Bowjob_ to the faucet [04:13]
Bowjob_ its a good bet to assume he has tons of it [04:13]
Chaang-Noi also if he shorted on bitcoinica, lol [04:13]
smickles ;;calc 31/1.06498 [04:13]
gribble 29.1085278597 [04:13]
smickles mpex options so imba [04:13]
Bugpowdrrr !ticker m s.mpoe [04:13]
Bugpowdrrr someone bought 7M shares [04:14]
Chaang-Noi ;;ticker [04:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.59217, Best ask: 41.59320, Bid-ask spread: 0.00103, Last trade: 43.90000, 24 hour volume: 169891.04250013, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01660 [04:14]
Bowjob_ http://s24.postimage.org/onppwxshx/35808271.jpg [04:14]
Bugpowdrrr And MPOE is probably down 5k right now. [04:14]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowdrrr it sold like 70k of calls you know ? [04:20]
mircea_popescu or 80k even [04:21]
mod6 yeah, 89`125 CALL [04:22]
mod6 13`587 PUT [04:23]
Namworld Someone was selling calls? [04:23]
mircea_popescu something like 14k iirc [04:23]
Namworld Oh... right... price is low... can't be purchases [04:24]
mircea_popescu Namworld yes they were selling calls bought yest [04:24]
[\] I see we had a 30% swing in the price today [04:26]
[\] I hope people realize just how shallow the kiddie pool still is [04:26]
Bugpowdrrr Customers made money on the calls right? [04:26]
mircea_popescu nah [04:28]
mircea_popescu maybe on the lowo nes, [04:28]
Namworld Apparently not, price is popping right back up. [04:28]
Bugpowdrrr the short put covering was pretty big too thoguh [04:28]
Bugpowdrrr hmm [04:28]
Bugpowdrrr ok [04:28]
mircea_popescu the short put guy made like .2-3 per contract [04:29]
mircea_popescu i wouyld guess [04:29]
Bugpowdrrr Wasn't watching. Eat dinner. Was a good day for me :) [04:29]
Bugpowdrrr Now if we blast thru 50, I will be seriously impressed. [04:29]
dub network is still pretty hosed [04:29]
Bugpowdrrr I made a few transfers today, no problem at all [04:30]
dub currently 2.5k unconfirmed [04:30]
dub still some scope for confidence trashing news hits [04:31]
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dub gox is still lagged by 8 minutes [04:32]
dub mpex still hacked by the gubbermint [04:32]
dub $2 still imminent [04:33]
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Bowjob_ ;;ticker [04:34]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.00000, Best ask: 43.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 43.00000, 24 hour volume: 167804.82008240, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.03618 [04:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1569 @ 0.0046 = 7.2174 BTC [-] [04:36]
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Bugpowdrrr bitcoinity is really holding up the best in these tough conditions [04:39]
Chaang-Noi thats where im at, i tipped him yesterday [04:39]
Bugpowdrrr yah I should tip too [04:39]
Bugpowdrrr first time I saw the site was today [04:39]
Chaang-Noi frolm the site whiskey fund: 1EWjHKPYGAJ3v5LnDyBo3Fn1PFsazBstqk | [04:39]
Bugpowdrrr was very helpful. [04:39]
mircea_popescu what does it do ? [04:40]
Chaang-Noi i sent .1337 should buy him a beer or two [04:40]
Chaang-Noi its live charts mp [04:40]
Chaang-Noi charts that work [04:40]
dub its been down for like a year though right? [04:40]
Chaang-Noi i honestly dont know [04:40]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 49 [04:41]
gribble There are currently 18888.341 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 892422.114396 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds [04:41]
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mircea_popescu ah [04:42]
mircea_popescu cool, nice to have. [04:43]
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Bugpowdrrr and now its down?!? [04:46]
Bugpowdrrr nah just lagged [04:46]
Bugpowdrrr expecting retrace to 40 here [04:47]
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mircea_popescu yeah lagged again [04:49]
thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX [04:52]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [04:53]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.60000, Best ask: 43.01009, Bid-ask spread: 0.41009, Last trade: 43.02000, 24 hour volume: 168407.58530743, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.04250 [04:53]
assbot I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. [04:53]
mircea_popescu ^OIX: "7d": {"avg": "4711973083","min": "3024713516","max": "4855255527","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.56240676575E+12","cnt": ""} [04:56]
mircea_popescu i'm like the new assbot [04:56]
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Chaang-Noi lol assbot :) [05:01]
Chaang-Noi !goat [05:01]
Chaang-Noi 45 [05:02]
Bugpowdrrr strong [05:02]
Bugpowdrrr impressive [05:02]
Chaang-Noi mp how much is a slave in romania, i feel too rich/lazy to do my work... [05:02]
Bugpowdrrr Taking the Kruggerand photo [05:02]
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mircea_popescu i dunno that they have those here. [05:07]
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mod6 (17:16) <@assbot> [MPEX] [WHITEHOUSE] 1 @ 0.1337 [+] [05:09]
mod6 ^^^ lol @ that [05:09]
mod6 and yeah +1 on "WE NEED A MOTHERFUCKING EXCHANGE" [05:09]
mod6 we need like 3 that are all independant of eachother [05:10]
mod6 and good ones that don't fucking break when a guy wants to sell a few, or more. [05:10]
mod6 and then with MPEx serving up options and futures, we'll have a nice little btc finance ecosystem [05:11]
mod6 but all of this reliance on gox is for the birds. [05:11]
dub I've been waiting a long time for someone to simply dos gox for a few weeks [05:12]
dub completely kill bitcoin [05:12]
Bugpowdrrr http://i.imgur.com/iLyZxUZ.jpg [05:13]
pgp hopefully coinlab will be able to "improve" the mtgox experience... [05:14]
pgp smaller exchanges are starting to get some traction, though... [05:14]
pgp bitfloor and bitstamp do a decent job of it... [05:15]
Chaang-Noi 36 again. fuck me [05:15]
Bugpowdrrr told ya [05:15]
Bugpowdrrr that was more violent than expected though [05:16]
Namworld Wait, back down to 36? [05:16]
dub someone needs to tell gox [05:16]
doctor_pullfingr bid still at 43 [05:16]
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mircea_popescu ;;tslb [05:17]
gribble Time since last block: 40 minutes and 10 seconds [05:17]
Bugpowdrrr eep 1740.26 2 minutes ago 36.000 [05:17]
mircea_popescu holy hell [05:17]
mircea_popescu what is this about asics and whatnot ? [05:17]
mod6 (19:12) < dub> I've been waiting a long time for someone to simply dos gox for a few weeks << exactly. [05:17]
Bugpowdrrr ;;tslb [05:18]
gribble Time since last block: 41 seconds [05:18]
Namworld ;;bids 35 [05:18]
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gribble There are currently 2015.0753 bitcoins demanded at or over 35.0 USD, worth 70734.225723 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0052 seconds [05:18]
Bugpowdrrr clark moody is fd up [05:19]
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dub bitcoincharts feed has been dead for an hour [05:20]
Namworld [22:19] <@gribble> There are currently 2.189923 bitcoins demanded at or over 36.0 USD, worth 82.4772267629 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.4769 [05:21]
Namworld [22:19] <@gribble> There are currently 181.27547 bitcoins offered at or under 42.0 USD, worth 7608.18637359 USD in total. | Data vintage: 35.9463 seconds [05:21]
Namworld I just checked on OTC. These spreads are ridiculous [05:21]
dub I wouldnt trust that [05:21]
dub there is basically no way of knowing what the price is [05:21]
Namworld Maybe delayed... but clarkmoody shows the same [05:21]
Bugpowdrrr clarkmoody is dead [05:22]
Namworld It looks like the spread is gone [05:22]
mod6 breathe [05:22]
Bugpowdrrr bitcoinity [05:22]
Namworld the bids/asks I mean [05:22]
dub the gox trade page has 0.04 spread [05:22]
Bugpowdrrr ah [05:22]
Bugpowdrrr lol [05:22]
Chaang-Noi back to 42 :) [05:22]
Chaang-Noi i think people just cant make orders at gox, so no vol so crazy movements [05:22]
Namworld dub: so does clarkmoody says, 0.04 spread [05:22]
Bugpowdrrr .04 spread on the orders that were placed 10 minutes ago. What about the population that is in the queue ahead of you? [05:22]
dub its pretty lulzy [05:23]
dub the entire bitcoin economy is a casino at this point [05:24]
dub price is some random value between 33 and 49 [05:24]
Namworld and it's killing commerce [05:24]
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Chaang-Noi yeah... it will stabilize around $1000 in a few years... [05:25]
Namworld These swings will undo all the adoption by serious businesses at this rate. [05:25]
dub hopefully [05:25]
dub as I keep saying, inb4 $2 [05:25]
mod6 mtgox must go away after this [05:26]
dub its been worse before [05:26]
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dub I dunno if its still there but at one point a 20k btc trade halted teh engine until mark woke up and confirmed it [05:26]
mod6 yeah, but something better must be constructed, and then have peers that are the same in construction [05:26]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoinity.org/markets [05:26]
dub as in, its a hard coded failsafe [05:26]
mircea_popescu that graph looks like it's had a heart attack [05:27]
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Namworld MtGox doesn't need to go. Just replace the hardware. It appears they are running on a Commodore 64 currently. [05:27]
Namworld Need an upgrade [05:27]
mod6 lol [05:27]
mircea_popescu they're spending something like 10k a month on hardware. [05:27]
dub its not the hardware its teh retard driving it [05:27]
mircea_popescu which is you kniow... more than the market cap of all but a few bitcoin businesses. [05:27]
mod6 thats insane [05:28]
mod6 $10K USD?! [05:28]
mircea_popescu it's what they declare(d) [05:28]
mod6 i guess maybe for the hosting... *shrug*, but its got to be rebuilt better [05:29]
mircea_popescu heh. mtgox jusrt stole .2 btc from me. [05:29]
mircea_popescu i dunno why i went ahead and used them as a pp for some obscure host [05:29]
mircea_popescu 7 confirms, "There are not enough bitcoins on this address." [05:29]
mircea_popescu in spite of you know, having showed it "about to confirm" earlier. [05:30]
mircea_popescu when it had 5 [05:30]
mod6 :< [05:31]
Chaang-Noi lol 2013.. using gox! [05:31]
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Bowjob so what now [05:33]
Bowjob ;;ticker [05:33]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.36000, Best ask: 41.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 41.89000, 24 hour volume: 181522.58600462, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.83448 [05:33]
Bugpowdrrr take a nap [05:35]
Chaang-Noi yeah im going afk.. crazyu shit [05:36]
Bowjob ;;ticker [05:37]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.31407, Best ask: 40.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.63593, Last trade: 40.95000, 24 hour volume: 181582.58134847, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.83060 [05:37]
Bowjob can we go to 50 please [05:37]
Bowjob lol [05:37]
Bugpowdrrr unlikely [05:37]
Bugpowdrrr America just needs to go to bed [05:38]
Bugpowdrrr and let gox recover [05:38]
Bowjob http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1054 [05:38]
Bowjob I won this bet [05:38]
Bowjob I feel that I should get a bit more than 0.3 for winning the bet. sigh [05:39]
Bugpowdrrr hey, that's like 20 LTC! [05:39]
Bowjob 200 [05:39]
Bowjob lol [05:39]
Bowjob well i got .83 now [05:40]
Bowjob it was 0,5 my bet [05:40]
Bowjob mhm [05:40]
ThickAsThieves i missed the crash of 2013! [05:42]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 49 [05:42]
ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [05:43]
gribble Current Blocks: 224620 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1171 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, 9 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4738813.84956 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.49241 [05:43]
gribble There are currently 22518.834 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 1059107.62381 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds [05:43]
Bugpowdrrr ThickAsThieves: It won't be the last [05:43]
Bugpowdrrr We have not seen REAL fear yet [05:43]
ThickAsThieves hopefully they won't be any bigger [05:43]
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Bugpowdrrr Protip : when the price is up more than $10 in a day, sell some. [05:44]
Bugpowdrrr Set a bid at 33% below [05:44]
Bowjob yep sell some USD to buy BTC [05:44]
Bowjob ! [05:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.00549 = 0.0494 BTC [+] [05:44]
Ukto https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1594354#msg1594354 [05:53]
dub pitty it didnt say 'so I whipped up assbot api integration'! [05:54]
mircea_popescu totally. [05:55]
mircea_popescu 500 Internal Server Error [05:56]
mircea_popescu nginx/1.2.1 [05:56]
mircea_popescu who was saying this bitcoinity thing is the best since sliced mpex ? [05:56]
dub heh apparently SA hacked mpex [05:56]
Bugpowdrrr oops [05:56]
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mircea_popescu dub haha [05:56]
mircea_popescu don't tell me they just owned themselves. [05:56]
dub no, this is just some aspie shutin wisdom from the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1594343#msg1594343 [05:57]
mircea_popescu meanwhile txs sent 3 hours ago are still unincluded [05:57]
mircea_popescu dude people wanted bitcoin to be the new visa ? [05:57]
mircea_popescu lay down the pipe. [05:57]
dub yeah back up to 3k unconfirmed [05:58]
dub you need to beat s.deuce fee of .001 to play bitcoin now [05:58]
Bowjob increase th limit [05:58]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.00549 = 0.0329 BTC [+] [06:07]
Bowjob http://i.imgur.com/4dhQMDS.png [06:08]
Bowjob just saying [06:08]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [06:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.25430, Best ask: 41.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04570, Last trade: 41.25330, 24 hour volume: 180985.14101528, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.80335 [06:09]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.00999 = 0.999 BTC [+] [06:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [+] [06:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4645 BTC [+] [06:22]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] [06:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1537 = 0.3074 BTC [-] [06:32]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [06:36]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.80000, Best ask: 40.90102, Bid-ask spread: 0.10102, Last trade: 40.80000, 24 hour volume: 182448.07724014, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.76346 [06:36]
Bowjob what a crash [06:36]
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Bowjob actually i cant complain lol [06:36]
Bowjob we need more good news [06:36]
Bowjob how about warren buffer dumping 1 bil to play with [06:37]
Bowjob buffet [06:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 608 @ 0.005 = 3.04 BTC [-] [06:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.005 = 0.035 BTC [-] [06:37]
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Bowjob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oeu_EMPd038 [06:45]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0049 = 0.0392 BTC [-] [06:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0048 BTC [-] [06:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0044 = 0.22 BTC [-] [06:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0044 = 0.044 BTC [-] [06:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00261 BTC [-] [06:46]
Bowjob http://i.imgur.com/M3QffS5.jpg [06:46]
Namworld Nope [06:46]
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Namworld We're in the bulltrap/return to normal [06:47]
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Namworld I'm saying hello to 16-18 USD/BTC already [06:49]
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BitHub ballz out [06:51]
Bowjob wall street didn't play yet [06:51]
Bowjob def bear trap [06:51]
Namworld if we're at that part of the bubble, we didn't start going parabolic yet... and what we've seen so far is "slow growth" [06:52]
Namworld So we'd hit like 10 000 USD/BTC at the peak or something... [06:52]
Namworld Why would "wall street" play? [06:52]
BitHub i thought that was wall street the last few days? [06:52]
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BitHub n today [06:53]
BitHub i wonder how merchants went today that do pricing [06:53]
Namworld Seriously, why would the whole world suddenly adopt Bitcoins? It doesn't solve any of their problem nor is it convenient for their daily transactions. [06:54]
Namworld We reached the top of the speculative bubble with the near 50 USD/BTC today [06:55]
Namworld What I think. [06:55]
BitHub i dont think the whooooole world [06:57]
BitHub cash is still king [06:57]
BitHub but its very good replacement for credit cards [06:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0046 = 0.46 BTC [-] [07:00]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [07:06]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [07:06]
Bowjob mt goxxxxxxxx [07:06]
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Chaang-Noi mtgox is dead dead... crazy [07:14]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [07:15]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.39000, Best ask: 40.40002, Bid-ask spread: 0.01002, Last trade: 40.60000, 24 hour volume: 181729.26901555, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.70517 [07:15]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [07:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.80001, Best ask: 40.84934, Bid-ask spread: 0.04933, Last trade: 40.80000, 24 hour volume: 182163.30359383, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.69988 [07:19]
Bowjob 49.09, the high of 2013 [07:19]
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Namworld http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html [07:22]
Namworld I haven't seen the orderbook looking bearish like that since forever. [07:23]
Chaang-Noi still we are over $40 we were 12 at the new year [07:23]
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Chaang-Noi that site wont load for me [07:23]
Chaang-Noi im damn pleased with anything stable over 30 [07:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0046 = 0.92 BTC [-] [07:24]
Chaang-Noi but then i bought in at 3.5 :/ [07:24]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [07:34]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.75068, Best ask: 41.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24932, Last trade: 40.75068, 24 hour volume: 181704.41636332, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.68779 [07:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14351396 = 143.514 BTC [-] [07:41]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.1597016 = 159.7016 BTC [-] [07:42]
Bowjob ;;ticker [07:42]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.93627, Best ask: 41.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06373, Last trade: 41.00000, 24 hour volume: 181664.32887886, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.68317 [07:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17755199 = 177.552 BTC [-] [07:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.19711386 = 197.1139 BTC [-] [07:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.21844012 = 218.4401 BTC [-] [07:42]
Bowjob My TX wont confirm [07:47]
Bowjob wtf [07:47]
Bowjob nvm it confirmed now. 2 hour wait [07:47]
Bowjob with tx [07:47]
Bowjob lol [07:47]
Namworld yeah [07:52]
Namworld I received one with 0 fees... it's just not getting included at all no matter how long I wait... [07:53]
Namworld stupid no fee [07:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-] [07:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-] [07:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.20704 BTC [-] [07:55]
Bowjob should raise the min fee on dice [07:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+] [07:56]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-X-Au9HrmI&feature=youtu.be [08:02]
mircea_popescu check out about minute 3 [08:02]
mircea_popescu keiser really likes bitcoin [08:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00074252 = 9.5785 BTC [-] [08:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00073731 = 1.2903 BTC [-] [08:03]
ThickAsThieves https://btct.co/security/CRYPTO-TRADE [08:04]
ThickAsThieves that's $160,000 USD for 20% of profits in IPO [08:04]
ThickAsThieves thems some big britches [08:04]
ThickAsThieves mp, this guy is following your PR advice http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,1125.msg7813.html#msg7813 [08:10]
mircea_popescu 4k btc ? [08:10]
ThickAsThieves yep [08:10]
ThickAsThieves is what they want [08:11]
ThickAsThieves suatmm [08:11]
mircea_popescu lol [08:12]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [08:12]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50540, Best ask: 41.54691, Bid-ask spread: 0.04151, Last trade: 41.54691, 24 hour volume: 185495.99289508, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.64250 [08:12]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [08:12]
gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 59 seconds [08:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00075 = 13.2375 BTC [+] [08:16]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [08:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.96634, Best ask: 41.96636, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 41.96634, 24 hour volume: 185593.98262870, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.64002 [08:22]
Bowjob ;;ticker [08:30]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.10081, Best ask: 42.10082, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 42.10082, 24 hour volume: 185130.68959519, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.63475 [08:30]
Bowjob we need satoshi to go back [08:32]
Bowjob and fix the blocksize limit [08:33]
mircea_popescu let people add tx fees. [08:41]
Bowjob just like the dude who sent 94 BTC as tx fee [08:43]
mircea_popescu lol tya [08:44]
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Chaang-Noi any word on gox? [08:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13424 @ 0.00075 = 10.068 BTC [+] [08:46]
Bowjob wheres that topic again [08:47]
Bowjob of the dude who sent 94 BTC as tx [08:47]
Namworld I want to see that one [08:50]
mircea_popescu bah bitcoincharts is crashed so bad [08:56]
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maximian who can think that BTC is ready for primetime with all these service failures [09:07]
maximian needs another year in the oven [09:07]
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mircea_popescu maximian indeed. [09:10]
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Chaang-Noi about gox... [09:16]
Chaang-Noi 02:08 <@MagicalTux> Blitzboom: we're working on some changes that will improve this a lot [09:16]
Chaang-Noi 02:08 < Blitzboom> ETA? [09:16]
Chaang-Noi 02:08 <@MagicalTux> we're pushing this urgently (but still after testing), so whithin next 24 hours [09:16]
Chaang-Noi probably this update is being pushed to prod [09:16]
Chaang-Noi and it will be back within hours [09:16]
saulimus improve what? [09:18]
mircea_popescu their 10 minute to half hour execution delay [09:21]
Chaang-Noi if you get a trade done in 30 mins seems you are lucky :/ [09:21]
Chaang-Noi however now it is starting to flow a bit [09:22]
mircea_popescu ya, people went to bed [09:22]
Chaang-Noi yeah, i should too but its 2pm [09:22]
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Ukto https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.ASICMINER-PT <-- graphs are now on a 15 sec live feed. no more refreshing to see trades [09:47]
TradeFortress Ukto, does the orderbook refill too? [09:48]
Ukto it will soon [09:48]
Ukto alot easier now [09:48]
Bowjob ;;ticker [09:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.08002, Best ask: 42.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31998, Last trade: 42.40000, 24 hour volume: 177673.50153615, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.48382 [09:48]
Ukto with the changes i setup tonight [09:48]
Ukto I was just taking a quick break from the big project [09:48]
Bowjob I call that.. the bear trap [09:48]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [10:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.20000, Best ask: 42.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 42.20000, 24 hour volume: 177432.50058775, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.47390 [10:01]
Bowjob ;;goxlag [10:04]
gribble 441.561708 seconds [10:04]
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Enky 440 sec lag? eternity... [10:10]
mircea_popescu yeah. [10:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7411 @ 0.0046 = 34.0906 BTC [-] [10:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00469999 = 1.8283 BTC [+] [10:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0048 = 5.76 BTC [+] [10:32]
oizotov ;;ticker [10:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.90001, Best ask: 42.95100, Bid-ask spread: 0.05099, Last trade: 42.90001, 24 hour volume: 175372.31802034, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.41063 [10:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+] [10:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+] [10:40]
Bowjob ;;ticker [10:43]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01590, Best ask: 44.12068, Bid-ask spread: 0.10478, Last trade: 44.01590, 24 hour volume: 177965.13484133, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.40520 [10:43]
Chaang-Noi movement at gox, and the direction is up [10:44]
Bowjob The bear trap [10:50]
pizzaman1337 ;;goxlag [10:52]
gribble 0.687269 seconds [10:52]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [10:57]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.17120, Best ask: 44.20001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02881, Last trade: 44.39000, 24 hour volume: 177233.90169868, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.37772 [10:57]
Bowjob not bad [10:57]
Anduck well [10:57]
Anduck IT SHOULD BE 60 USD ALREDY [10:57]
Anduck BUY BUY BUY [10:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00075 = 7.5 BTC [+] [10:59]
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mircea_popescu lol rebound ? [11:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.65 = 12.35 BTC [-] [11:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00075 = 37.5 BTC [+] [11:16]
Chaang-Noi mp hard to say if gox is even working [11:16]
Chaang-Noi for all we know gox is hand picking the trades [11:16]
mircea_popescu yeah. [11:17]
mircea_popescu mpoe hasn't been quoting for like 6 hours because it can't get a coherent feed [11:17]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoinity.org/markets bitcoinity is back online at least. [11:19]
Anduck i heard mpex got ddos'd [11:19]
mircea_popescu Anduck still going. [11:19]
Anduck well, anything you will do to stop it? [11:19]
mircea_popescu nope. [11:20]
Anduck absorb it somewhere [11:20]
Anduck call ISP for dat? [11:20]
mircea_popescu they've been playing muscial chairs for what, 12 hours now ? [11:20]
Anduck so your isp dont know how to absorb a ddos? [11:20]
mircea_popescu is this some topic you fancy yourself an expert in ? [11:21]
Anduck no [11:21]
Anduck but isp should know how to fix it [11:21]
Anduck its shitty job but they should get it done by now [11:21]
mircea_popescu sorta like the doctor should know how to make you healthy, right ? [11:22]
Anduck well i am 100% sure i know way more about these things than you do. [11:22]
mircea_popescu what difference does it make anyway ? you're so desperate to read my blog today rather than tomorrow ? [11:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33317 = 0.6663 BTC [-] [11:22]
Anduck no but it's just funny cuz you said "mpex cant be taken down" [11:22]
Anduck or smth similar - in your blog, yes [11:22]
mircea_popescu i said it's immune to ddos. which it is. [11:23]
Anduck is it unusable right now-+- [11:23]
Anduck ? [11:23]
mircea_popescu nope. [11:23]
Anduck ok [11:23]
mircea_popescu can't you see it trading lol [11:23]
Anduck not really [11:23]
Anduck where would i see that? [11:23]
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mircea_popescu [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00075 = 37.5 BTC [+] [11:23]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/mpex1 [11:24]
Anduck ok [11:24]
mircea_popescu that's kinda the idea. i saidf before a government couldn't take it down. [11:25]
mircea_popescu today is the proof. ddos it ? fine. so ? [11:25]
mircea_popescu who cares. [11:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 134 @ 0.0007 = 0.0938 BTC [-] [11:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.00182 = 0.0273 BTC [-] [11:27]
Anduck !ticker m s.mpoe [11:28]
Anduck duhh [11:28]
assbot The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. [11:28]
Anduck mircea_popescu: where can i see bid/ask of s.mpoe? [11:28]
mircea_popescu "S.MPOE": {"1d": {"avg": "74815.940534","min": "69034","max": "75000","vsh": "4149547","vsa": "310452261595","cnt": "41"}, "7d": {"avg": "74981.9993279","min": "69034","max": "78628","vsh": "11012234","vsa": "825719322387","cnt": "218"}, "30d": {"avg": "68500.398679","min": "61530","max": "78628","vsh": "65503018","vsa": "4486982847676","cnt": "5975"}}, [11:29]
Anduck ty [11:29]
maximian also http://mpex.coinbr.com/ [11:30]
maximian which is also in the channel topic :) [11:30]
Anduck mircea_popescu: did someone buy s.mpoe a lot? [11:30]
mircea_popescu past few days yeah [11:30]
Anduck i think i saw it at like 0.00060 or smth [11:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00986 = 0.0197 BTC [-] [11:30]
mircea_popescu i put a 10mn shares block up at 75 monday [11:30]
mircea_popescu and it's all but gone [11:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 48 @ 0.00982 = 0.4714 BTC [-] [11:31]
Anduck you took the wall off? [11:31]
mircea_popescu no, it was bought [11:31]
Anduck no way all 10,000,000 was bought? [11:32]
Anduck gz! [11:32]
BitHub Hey, i'm with my friend and he wants to know how did Satoshi gain his powers? [11:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.01552 = 0.0621 BTC [-] [11:32]
Anduck he talked to me. [11:32]
mircea_popescu like 500k left [11:32]
BitHub he doesn't believe me that sataoshi blew himself up with his mind [11:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1394 = 0.2788 BTC [-] [11:34]
mircea_popescu Mtgox trading engine lag: 10.51s [11:34]
mircea_popescu it almost caught up actually. [11:34]
Bowjob ;;ticker [11:34]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01000, Best ask: 44.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 44.50000, 24 hour volume: 173347.40604858, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.30310 [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 58800 @ 0.0048 = 282.24 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5851 @ 0.0055 = 32.1805 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00564998 = 5.65 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005769 = 2.3076 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 157 @ 0.005779 = 0.9073 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.005789 = 1.0941 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2504 @ 0.00578949 = 14.4969 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00579999 = 2.9 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00579999 = 5.8 BTC [+] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9376 @ 0.00584168 = 54.7716 BTC [+] [11:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 223 @ 0.00588401 = 1.3121 BTC [+] [11:35]
maximian s.dice not dead after all :) [11:35]
mircea_popescu just needed to meditate a little lol [11:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00596 BTC [+] [11:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00597 = 0.0597 BTC [+] [11:39]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] [11:39]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00545 = 0.1363 BTC [-] [11:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.00599 = 0.1138 BTC [+] [11:44]
Anduck hey [11:44]
Anduck did asicminer pay divs? [11:44]
Anduck -again- [11:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00545 = 0.0273 BTC [-] [11:44]
mircea_popescu ya like 19 iirc [11:44]
Anduck ij [11:44]
Anduck ok [11:44]
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Chaang-Noi so are we back to normal at gox, vol is okay? [11:50]
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mircea_popescu 10 secondish [11:52]
Chaang-Noi yeah but is trade volume back, i can live with that delay [11:52]
Chaang-Noi when downloading the block chain, will more than 4 ram spead it up or is it only the cpu that matters? [11:53]
mircea_popescu disk is the bottleneck iirc [11:55]
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Chaaang-Noi http://pokerfuse.com/features/in-depth/winpoker-bitcoin-comes-worlds-largest-online-poker-network-ipoker-06-03/ fuuuuck yeah [11:58]
maximian mircea_popescu where is that list of proxies again? mpex.coinbr.com isn't responding for me (I hope juror isn't under attack now) [12:02]
maximian jurov I should say [12:02]
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Namworld both mpex.coinbr.com and mpex.co seem unavailable now. [12:09]
Namworld Someone is really DDoS'ing everything [12:09]
dub ;;tslb [12:10]
gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 35 seconds [12:10]
maximian yeah looks like coinbr.com is getting the DDoS treatment [12:10]
Namworld Who the fuck has time to DDoS stuff anyway [12:10]
maximian someone who's really, really pissed off at MP [12:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.00599 = 0.2516 BTC [+] [12:11]
dub probably extortion [12:12]
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maximian MP should have received a demand by now [12:13]
Namworld extortion seems possible [12:13]
Namworld If no one ever pays extortion, there goes the incentive. Anti-DDoS measures are more cost effective. [12:14]
mircea_popescu hey all. [12:19]
mircea_popescu mpex servers will be offline for a few hours. we are reconfiguring the router system, putting in new optics [12:19]
mircea_popescu and doing a lot of other overhauling. [12:19]
mircea_popescu no need to panic, all data is safe, by the time this is done mpex will have 10gb dedicated. [12:20]
mircea_popescu and a few other perks. [12:20]
Namworld 10 Gbps? [12:20]
mircea_popescu yes. [12:20]
Namworld Seems massive. [12:20]
Namworld Good thing. [12:20]
mircea_popescu hey. 1gb x2 seemed massive. [12:20]
Namworld I'll hog 2 or 3 all for myself. [12:21]
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mircea_popescu to avoid any possible inconsistencies in dbases i am taking the ordering offline tho. [12:21]
mircea_popescu data may still be visible for a little bit. [12:21]
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maximian great [12:22]
Namworld Guess I'll go sleep and get back to trading tomorrow then. [12:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6616 @ 0.00073732 = 4.8781 BTC [-] [12:22]
Namworld Goodbye. [12:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00073731 = 2.0895 BTC [-] [12:22]
mircea_popescu i'm going to sleep too. techs have it from here. [12:22]
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jurov hello [12:26]
jurov coinbr has network dificulties, but it doesn't look like attack [12:27]
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oizotov ;;ticker [12:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.65507, Best ask: 43.99100, Bid-ask spread: 0.33593, Last trade: 43.65507, 24 hour volume: 169564.38034507, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.22189 [12:29]
Bowjob ;;ticker [12:31]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.50000, Best ask: 43.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 43.54000, 24 hour volume: 170125.43926848, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.22377 [12:31]
Ukto BF last 24hrs, over 450btc vol [12:32]
BitHub BF ticker :) [12:33]
jurov so mpex is completely offline now, right? [12:38]
kakobrekla you can send a sign order via snail mail [12:39]
kakobrekla singed [12:39]
jurov okay... just situational awareness [12:39]
jurov and next time i meet Namworld i do something nasty to him [12:40]
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jurov he knows coinbr is on bitvps, plus i reminded him yest [12:40]
jurov but he was talking about it being attacked as if it was no concern for him [12:41]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/ [19:26]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Mar 7 18:31:41 2013 [19:26]
mircea_popescu sooo what's new ? [19:28]
deadweasel a bunch of emotionally drained bitcoin crazed monkeys. [19:30]
deadweasel so nothing new. [19:30]
mircea_popescu haha sounds about right [19:30]
mircea_popescu jurov did you get nuked in the end ? [19:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18001 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18001 BTC [-] [19:34]
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jurov mircea_popescu, it's still not clear it it was really me [19:38]
jurov [18:31] yea there is a massive amount of traffic hitting the node [19:38]
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mircea_popescu lol mkay [19:39]
mircea_popescu CoinBr under maintenance/overhaul, should be available before March 8. Contact us on support()coinbr.com . [19:40]
mircea_popescu i get that much. [19:40]
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jurov well, this is new server. the original one is not reachable [19:40]
mircea_popescu o [19:40]
mircea_popescu cool. [19:40]
jurov should it stay unreachable, i'll install everything there [19:41]
mircea_popescu it's funny, last year the forum crowd was all aggitated about "o, da gubbinmint" [19:41]
mircea_popescu i knew then that it's not the freaking government that'll be the issue on the midterm. [19:41]
mod6 yeah, I might give out my second neg rating to Luke-Jr [19:42]
mircea_popescu why Luke-Jr ? [19:43]
mod6 all his nonsense about SD spamming the blockchain [19:43]
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mod6 and the fact that he published some mining code that breaks protocol and promotes it to other miners. [19:44]
mircea_popescu ya well, attention ho. [19:44]
mircea_popescu retaliatory rating if some idiot negs you i can see [19:44]
mircea_popescu going out of your way to politically rate people... meh. not so much. [19:44]
mod6 i dunno what to call it if I rate him down, but im tired of this shit. [19:44]
mircea_popescu lol [19:44]
mircea_popescu what difference does it make to you tho ? there's going to be an onion in any soup [19:45]
mircea_popescu do you mind that it's called Luke-Jr or whatever else ? [19:45]
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mod6 i can't articulate myself enough -- im just against all his SD blockchain spamming bullshit [19:46]
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mircea_popescu hey, most people are [19:47]
Luke-Jr you'd rather see SD flood Bitcoin to death [19:47]
mircea_popescu well... not as much against as amused. [19:47]
mod6 i've been reading all this btctalk stuff today, and he's just wrong about SD spamming. just because he'd design SD differently.... or believes that gambling is immoral because he loves jesus. [19:48]
mircea_popescu Luke-Jr dude, still with this ? sd is the only thing happening on bitcoin, forget about it already. [19:48]
mircea_popescu o, is it a loving bejezuz issue really ? [19:48]
error4733 if blockchain can't support SD now, what happen with 1M user ? [19:49]
Luke-Jr no, it's a mod6-is-a-troll issue [19:49]
mircea_popescu this wouldn't be by any chance related to the girl bitchslapping that hearn muppet earlier, would it ? [19:49]
mod6 im not trolling shit motherfucker [19:49]
Luke-Jr error4733: 1M user with 1000 tx/sec is easier than 10 users with 1000 tx/sec [19:49]
error4733 all bs, erik is right, better now than to late [19:49]
mircea_popescu 1M user with 1000 tx/sec is easier than 10 users with 1000 tx/sec <<< you can't even distinguish users apart. [19:50]
Luke-Jr error4733: 1mil users can provide infra for 1000 tx/sec; what we have today, no way [19:50]
mircea_popescu i can make 1mn txs right now, you won't be able to produce an accurate usercount. [19:50]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: it's easy. just go to #bitcoin and ask SD players to PM you. [19:50]
mircea_popescu hahaha, if you think retail users will run that braindamaged abomination called "the bitcoin client" you're off your rocker. [19:50]
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mircea_popescu if there were 1mn users drawn to bitcoin because of satoshi dice, they'd just run piuk's wallet into the ground, and you'd whine about how "blockchain is spamming the network" [19:52]
mircea_popescu this sort of internecine bullshit may be appropriate in fringe churches of weird and other midwestern concerns [19:52]
mircea_popescu but it does not belong in technology. technology is for smart people. [19:52]
Luke-Jr I don't care who it is, if they flood the network it's miners' job to filter them out [19:52]
mircea_popescu you literally have no idea what you are talking about. [19:53]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: you'd better leave then [19:53]
Luke-Jr after all, technology is for smart people.. [19:53]
Luke-Jr not anarchist lunatics who can't figure out the most obvious legal scenario [19:53]
mircea_popescu lmao [19:53]
mod6 smh [19:54]
mircea_popescu listen, how do you figure you're a mioner anyway [19:54]
mircea_popescu best i can make out you're a concern troll with a checkered past. [19:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4298 @ 0.00072873 = 3.1321 BTC [-] [19:54]
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mircea_popescu looking through the forum digests this is motherfucking sad [20:01]
mod6 i mean seriously [20:01]
mircea_popescu Gateway capacity trouble at Coinbase? Is anyone else having problems with Bitme deposits? Mt.Gox Payment system problem What the fuck Bitfinex? MtGox should halt trading when Order Lag time is this long. Anyone's bitfloor deposits working? [20:02]
mircea_popescu it's like fucking extravaganza. [20:02]
mircea_popescu and the cherry on top, Website performance is going to be the bane of many n00bs when it's time to sell [20:02]
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mircea_popescu dude i dunno about noobs. it'd be the bane of me. [20:02]
deadweasel bugpowder and I were all jammed up about goxlag of 10 minutes [20:03]
deadweasel it was a learning opportunity [20:04]
mircea_popescu heh. i think the lag reporting was laggy [20:04]
mod6 heheh [20:04]
mircea_popescu at some point they were pasting half hour old trades out of order into the feed [20:04]
mircea_popescu classical meltdown. [20:04]
mircea_popescu actually it looked a lot like nasdaq when facebook. [20:04]
Diablo-D3 lol goxlag [20:04]
BTCTrader2 what are people using for cli? is it faster? [20:06]
jurov mircea_popescu , is there any place for mpex chinese/pakistani users to inquiry about the outage? [20:07]
mircea_popescu jurov here basically. [20:07]
jurov one dude came and seemd completely out of his mind [20:07]
mircea_popescu have him join the chan it can be explained to him. [20:07]
deadweasel which one? [20:07]
deadweasel Rick___? [20:07]
jurov yes. he's gone now. [20:08]
mircea_popescu awww that poor dude was sending me crazed messages too. [20:08]
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mircea_popescu but to sum up the situation, cause i imagine many people are curious : [20:08]
mircea_popescu mpex consists of a trade server and webservers which the users talk to. [20:09]
mircea_popescu if you look at it practically these webservers are practically proxies. [20:09]
mircea_popescu there is five of them sharing two gigabit uplinks through a balancer. [20:09]
mircea_popescu the first time mpex was ddosed in january the attack took out the actual datacenter top level router. [20:10]
mircea_popescu there were two more layers of routing to get to the router that handled the webservers. [20:10]
mircea_popescu now, the reason admittedly was that the thing was a little old and kidna loaded. but still. [20:11]
mircea_popescu so at that time i split the tubes up north/east, and started a bunch of proxies [20:11]
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mircea_popescu jurov was hosting one, for instance. [20:11]
mircea_popescu since the attack started yesterday a total of 100+ of these were taken offline. [20:12]
mircea_popescu granted, it's not easy to blow up a small shared setup like that. [20:12]
mircea_popescu but somebody did have the determination to spend a day and a half looking for them, setting up the ddosing for them individually bla bla. [20:12]
mircea_popescu the thing with that system is that it works by division. if there's 100 of them there jurov can stay online. [20:13]
mircea_popescu if there's 9 left the remainder ddos is available to hit him [20:13]
mircea_popescu i could allow anyone to start a proxy right now, the trade server is fine, etc. the problem is [20:13]
mircea_popescu you'd be nuked in half an hour or something, and it's just hassle. [20:14]
imsaguy mmm, shake n bake [20:14]
mircea_popescu right. [20:14]
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mircea_popescu now, a humongo 10gb dedicated solution is being set up as we speak [20:14]
mircea_popescu i had this sort-of prepared, but not actually provisioned and ready because the shit is expensive [20:14]
imsaguy so you're having more babies to win the war? [20:15]
mircea_popescu basically. [20:15]
Diablo-D3 heh [20:15]
mircea_popescu imsaguy the alternative is handle mpex trades by email. [20:15]
Diablo-D3 email, the original next generation mail queue [20:15]
mircea_popescu yep. [20:16]
imsaguy how about mpex trades via telnet? [20:16]
imsaguy :D [20:16]
mircea_popescu to what ip ? [20:16]
mircea_popescu see, mail is diffuse. [20:16]
imsaguy 127.0.0.1 [20:16]
mircea_popescu lol [20:16]
Diablo-D3 I wonder if that makes uunet the original original message queue [20:16]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 prolly. [20:16]
imsaguy how about mpex over irc? [20:16]
Diablo-D3 fuck we need uunet back [20:16]
Diablo-D3 that shit was baus [20:16]
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imsaguy let freenode get ddos [20:16]
imsaguy I hear they like that [20:16]
mircea_popescu imsaguy the problem is irc doesn't handle pgp so well [20:16]
imsaguy yes it does [20:16]
imsaguy ask gribble [20:17]
mircea_popescu (and i don't think they have enough to cope, but maybe) [20:17]
Diablo-D3 I could name a box "chicks" and name a user "i" [20:17]
imsaguy :) [20:17]
Diablo-D3 and it'd be funny [20:17]
imsaguy people pastebin the pgp [20:17]
imsaguy feed the bot the raw url [20:17]
imsaguy simple as pie [20:17]
mircea_popescu imsaguy yeah. last i talked to nanotube he was like "i don't want this in production handling opm" [20:17]
imsaguy I'm not saying graft onto gribble [20:17]
imsaguy I'm saying clone [20:17]
imsaguy steal the concept [20:17]
mircea_popescu dawg... [20:17]
mircea_popescu fuck you srsly. [20:17]
mircea_popescu why didn't i think opf that [20:17]
imsaguy dee oh gee [20:17]
mircea_popescu people can just paste a pastebin link or w/e [20:18]
Diablo-D3 oh em gee [20:18]
imsaguy derp [20:18]
mircea_popescu lol [20:18]
imsaguy and then the bot filters anything not formed as url [20:18]
imsaguy thats the first line [20:18]
mircea_popescu imsaguy wanna code an irc proxy for me ? [20:18]
imsaguy second line is it only parses text [20:18]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: dude, just use perl [20:18]
mircea_popescu all you have to do is take urls from people and feed them into server as pgp strings [20:18]
imsaguy no, just fork gribble [20:18]
mircea_popescu so fork gribble, i dun care. [20:19]
imsaguy the code for reading pastebin to gpg [20:19]
imsaguy its already written [20:19]
mircea_popescu im trying to hire you over here ;/ [20:19]
imsaguy what's it pay? [20:19]
imsaguy gypsie man [20:19]
mircea_popescu pm. [20:19]
jurov waitwhat? ppl will publish urls to encrypted orders on irc to be picked up by mpoe bot? [20:20]
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mircea_popescu jurov yup [20:22]
mircea_popescu i like this chan, srsly. [20:22]
mircea_popescu ppl are facepalming left and right around me [20:22]
imsaguy working on it now [20:22]
jurov lol you should accept clearsigned orders, too, then. [20:24]
jurov unencrypted [20:24]
jurov moar phun [20:24]
mircea_popescu nah. [20:25]
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Chilca mircea_popescu: Can I help you guys with the infrastructure for the site? [20:28]
wiggzz so coinbr and mpex are down? [20:28]
mircea_popescu wiggzz atm, yes. [20:29]
mircea_popescu Chilca do you have a gb+ pipe you can play with ? [20:29]
wiggzz ok. no worries, thanks [20:29]
Chilca mircea_popescu: are you having a DDOS attack? what's the problem. [20:29]
mircea_popescu yes. read up the chat i just explained it 5 minutes ago [20:29]
Chilca let me read it [20:29]
mircea_popescu o you just joined huh. brb pastebin [20:29]
Chilca I just joined. Pastebin will be great [20:30]
mod6 Any paste or usage pattern not related to that goal which results in unusually high traffic will be flagged for investigation. [20:30]
mod6 this could become a problem [20:30]
mircea_popescu mod6 they can use their own domains tho [20:31]
mod6 as well, is it a good idea to store everyones cyphertexts indefinately? [20:31]
mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/8dWy851p Chilca wiggzz [20:31]
jcpham yes thank you my vps is fubar [20:31]
jcpham bee tee double you [20:31]
mircea_popescu mod6 now that i don't know. [20:31]
mircea_popescu but if someone breaks pgp in 2049, what do they get ? a lot of BUY|S.BLABLA|350|45000 ? [20:32]
mircea_popescu jcpham y-double-y-cum. [20:32]
jcpham switzerland is down [20:32]
jcpham too many bandwidths [20:32]
jcpham angry netizens [20:32]
mod6 yea. i just figure maybe having our asses hanging in the breeze is a great oppertunity for the NSA to try to extract data on a sort of chosen cypertext attack [20:33]
imsaguy that why you expire the pastebin [20:33]
imsaguy it only needs to live for <10 minutes [20:33]
mircea_popescu mod6 listen, the pastebins would be encrypted with mpex key [20:33]
mod6 ok imsaguy, that should work [20:33]
mircea_popescu if they get anywhere they broke pgp. [20:33]
mircea_popescu because [20:33]
mircea_popescu you can take a string and encrypt it with mpex key right now [20:33]
mircea_popescu locally [20:33]
jurov jcpham, now imagine they could have started resolving it 6 hours earlier [20:34]
mircea_popescu for one trillion times [20:34]
mircea_popescu jurov no cause i was sleeping. [20:34]
jurov if namworld was able to remember that coinbr in on bitvps [20:34]
mod6 *nod* im with you. [20:34]
mircea_popescu and contrary to what everyone thinks, great ideas also need sane management to get anywhere. [20:34]
jurov mircea i'm speaking about bitvps to jcpham [20:34]
mircea_popescu o i got confused :D [20:34]
mircea_popescu sorry. [20:34]
jcpham sorry jurov [20:35]
jurov can't get over it... namworld said "o mpex.coinbr.com has problems, prolly ddos" and he went to sleep [20:35]
mircea_popescu lol [20:35]
jcpham my opinion of switzerland is that it is not for critical stuff [20:35]
mircea_popescu wasn't exactly like that lol [20:35]
jurov despite i did tell him it's to be expected [20:35]
mod6 im not even sure I ever noticed the pastebin expire time lol [20:36]
Chilca do you guys have a firewall on top the servers? [20:36]
mod6 this is a pretty sweet idea tho imsaguy [20:36]
imsaguy lol [20:36]
imsaguy Chilca, first ddos? [20:36]
imsaguy mod6, I'm pretty stupid, most of the time [20:37]
imsaguy but the rest of the time, I try to make up for it. [20:37]
mod6 naw [20:37]
mod6 werd :) [20:37]
Chilca imsaguy: In my company we use radware to stop ddos. [20:37]
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Chilca I can talk with the CEO and he can ship one to your dc if you want. [20:37]
Chilca for free [20:38]
mircea_popescu that's a nice thought, but [20:39]
imsaguy its hosted out of his bedroom [20:39]
mircea_popescu in the middle of installing gear so might not be the best time [20:39]
imsaguy I doubt you want in that dungeon [20:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42424242 BTC [+] [20:42]
jurov we've found out that it is indeed coinbr.com being ddos'ed [20:43]
jurov we've shut it all down, working on restoring everyone else, please be patient [20:43]
jurov oh my [20:43]
mircea_popescu dudes not paying attention are they. [20:43]
jurov yea, after 8 hours [20:44]
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jcpham i could've told them coinbr was going to get ddos'd yesterday [20:45]
jcpham it seems like maybe you attemtped to notify them [20:45]
jurov i told namworld myself. but he's just not the right person for that. [20:46]
imsaguy !mpex url email [20:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.495 = 9.9 BTC [+] [20:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+] [20:49]
dub ;;ticker [20:49]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50001, Best ask: 42.69899, Bid-ask spread: 0.19898, Last trade: 42.50001, 24 hour volume: 174284.00806825, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 48.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.65273 [20:49]
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nanotube mircea_popescu: should be pretty trivial to set up an irc bot that just takes user input and passes it along to your server. if you set it up with a cloak, attackers can't even know its ip. [21:17]
nanotube so they'd have to take down all of freenode. [21:18]
nanotube and if you use gribble/supy as base, it by default limits number of commands per user per time, so they can't even flood it out. [21:18]
jurov nanotube, imsaguy is on it [21:18]
nanotube jurov: ah cool :) [21:19]
imsaguy nanotube: pgp over irc [21:22]
imsaguy PITA [21:22]
imsaguy :) [21:22]
nanotube imsaguy: heh well, just have it take a pastebin link, and pass it along to mpex. [21:23]
nanotube should be trivial [21:23]
imsaguy but then mpex passes pgp back :p [21:24]
imsaguy thats the poitn of ddos [21:24]
nanotube well, mpex passes back another pastebin link [21:24]
nanotube easy peasy [21:24]
nanotube unless they ddos pastebin.com [21:24]
imsaguy :) [21:24]
nanotube but there are so many pastebins out there, you can easily cycle among them [21:24]
imsaguy they all use captcha [21:24]
Diablo-D3 PASTEBINCLOUD [21:25]
Diablo-D3 lawlz [21:25]
mircea_popescu nanotube it shall be done. [21:25]
nanotube some provide apis for pasting. like paste.debian [21:25]
Diablo-D3 sounds like the shit devcoin does [21:25]
mircea_popescu this of course has no bearing on the new pipe coming online. [21:25]
nanotube mircea_popescu: make sure to have the bot communicate with another secret proxy, not core server. so if bot is cracked open, they only discover one of your proxies, not real location. [21:25]
dub pastebin.com was hosed yesterday [21:25]
mircea_popescu nanotube yes. [21:25]
nanotube also, another option, mircea_popescu : set up an amazon ec instance. they give you unlimited BW, only care about disk and cpu usage. [21:26]
nanotube so if all it does is take requests and pass them on [21:26]
nanotube you don't have to pay [21:26]
nanotube (much) [21:26]
imsaguy the cpu can get costly if its being bogged [21:26]
mircea_popescu nanotube a coupla of the proxies were on amazon [21:26]
jurov amazon ec, exactly what i'm doing. cool shit. [21:26]
nanotube hmm [21:26]
mircea_popescu im too busy to investigate exactly wtf happned to them right now [21:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.51 = 9.69 BTC [+] [21:27]
nanotube heh ic [21:27]
mircea_popescu and not sure i actually care. [21:27]
nanotube anyway, imsaguy let know if you need help. :) [21:27]
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deadweasel mircea_popescu: keep your friends close... might want to sort out who/what this was [21:29]
deadweasel help protectin the future. [21:29]
mircea_popescu deadweasel nah, i literally do not care. [21:30]
mircea_popescu understand : this was planned for. sooner or later someone was going to attack mpex. [21:30]
deadweasel i can tell, fuckin' Rick James up in here [21:30]
mircea_popescu proving that mpex can't be effectually attacked is part of the game [21:30]
deadweasel I'm Rich Bitch! [21:30]
mircea_popescu the attackers are on our team here. [21:30]
jurov deadweasel, how would you do it? it can be half of btctalk [21:30]
jborkl Hell, anyone not expecting this attack at some point was not paying attention [21:31]
mircea_popescu jborkl the only disputer was, "will it be government or not" [21:31]
mircea_popescu turns out not. so... heh. [21:31]
deadweasel i don't know how to do it. [21:31]
deadweasel i probably wouldn't care either. [21:31]
mircea_popescu just the fact that traders could close > 50k btc worth of option positions normally whiole mpex was being ddosed to hell [21:31]
mircea_popescu already speaks volumes. [21:31]
jborkl yeah, a few months ago Bank of America got ddos for I think 3 days [21:31]
mircea_popescu that the bot later was w/o a feed cause mtgox went bananas is a diff story [21:32]
mircea_popescu but pain was avoided here. [21:32]
deadweasel it was interesting to watch people show up here, get a proxy addy, then go trade. [21:32]
deadweasel they were all jibberred up, then like, ok, i'm ok now. [21:32]
mircea_popescu cool, huh ? [21:32]
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jborkl this was a really good test for MPEX [21:32]
deadweasel very [21:32]
deadweasel there are no problems, only opportunities [21:33]
mircea_popescu yeah, sure, i'm not keeping 10k worth of pipe as a hot and ready to go backup, i admit [21:33]
mircea_popescu on the other hand, i am getting it deployed, so. [21:33]
error4733 mp, they ask something ? [21:33]
mircea_popescu not afaik. [21:34]
mjr_ ugh, the discussion on the forums is so fucking silly [21:35]
mjr_ its like they don't understand what "free market" means [21:35]
mircea_popescu i don't think they understand a lot of things tbh [21:35]
mjr_ i literally saw someone say "sdice actually gets the gambler to pay MORE fees, they should be banned" [21:36]
mircea_popescu some people were on a kick of "bitbet should charge less" [21:36]
mircea_popescu why ? [21:36]
mircea_popescu well... cause then it'd be less. [21:36]
mircea_popescu im like... yaok. [21:36]
jborkl 99% of all people are retarded [21:37]
mjr_ yes, because the miners should get less money? not to mention the fact that it's about people enjoying and using bitcoins...so you will take away a popular service to further your cause? [21:37]
mjr_ fucking retarded [21:37]
jcpham somewhere between the two "e" in free market, there is tiny subscript begging for gubment oversight [21:37]
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mircea_popescu anyway, exciting stuff [21:38]
dub mjr_: they're probably arguing the wrong thing but factually SD using the blockchain for accountign is retarded [21:38]
mircea_popescu thy name be bitcoin [21:38]
mircea_popescu dub mpex uses the blockchain for accounting a different way. [21:38]
mjr_ dub: if they include fees fuck what they use it for [21:38]
mircea_popescu this is what the blockchain is : accounting [21:38]
dub mjr_: sanest comparison I've seen was from this channel, imagine a casine where you had to cash out and back in after every bet [21:38]
mircea_popescu that's why it's called a ledger. [21:38]
mircea_popescu dub : accounts DO NOT WORK. [21:39]
mircea_popescu there is no such thing as "an account" [21:39]
mircea_popescu there is no such thing as "log in" [21:39]
mircea_popescu forget that braindamage. [21:39]
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mjr_ yep it is only transactions [21:39]
mjr_ although i can see your point about cashing in and out... [21:40]
mjr_ and i think it is a good image [21:40]
mircea_popescu the reason you cash out after every bet is that there's no "you" [21:40]
mjr_ i would think of it as...does the casino not calculate your payout after each hand? [21:40]
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mjr_ you put money in, and then they push money back at you [21:40]
mircea_popescu thinking in terms of "you" and pretending to be involved in bitcoin is the ultimate lulz. [21:40]
mircea_popescu obviously it didn't sink in what bitcoin is. [21:40]
mjr_ mircea: to be fair, i don't think that the protocol EXCLUDES the use of a layer on top of it that could replicate "accounts"... [21:41]
dub the blockchain is not intented for this level of nanotransactions [21:41]
mircea_popescu mjr_ the protocol doesn't exclude it [21:41]
mircea_popescu but im motherfucking excluding it. it doesn't work. [21:42]
mjr_ yes, that makes sense [21:42]
dub if you had to pay for every grain of rice you bought individually with a CC, amex would crumble too [21:42]
mircea_popescu dub this is great. [21:42]
mircea_popescu the day we go in the marketplace with a workable solution that would crtumble amex [21:42]
mircea_popescu is the day we see usd/satoshi rates quoted [21:42]
mircea_popescu instead of usd/btc [21:42]
jborkl Who said the blockchain is only for a certain transaction? [21:43]
mjr_ dub: i feel that what they are saying is that "the blockchain shouldn't be used for individual grains of rice, so no rice for anyone" [21:43]
mircea_popescu moreover, who the fuck said what the blockchain is for ? [21:43]
jborkl who decided this nonsense [21:43]
dub jborkl: its design [21:43]
mircea_popescu the blockchain is for everything it works for. [21:43]
dub derp [21:43]
mircea_popescu as long as it's useful for something, that's what it's for. [21:43]
mjr_ i agree [21:43]
mircea_popescu natural law. [21:43]
mjr_ it is like the internet [21:43]
dub making it take up an unrealistic amount fo resource is goign to break it [21:43]
jborkl then those people will quit [21:44]
mircea_popescu dub the only thing that's going to break it is pseudo-governmental posturing. [21:44]
mjr_ what is the internet "designed" for? so university professors could share scholarly work [21:44]
dub driving fees up to counter the problem is goign to kill adoption [21:44]
jcpham m/join #bitcoin [21:44]
mircea_popescu nobody has license to come out with the sort of bullshit "shoulds" [21:44]
jcpham FUDGEPACKER [21:44]
mircea_popescu the only shoulds here are the devs should stfu and fix bitcoind. [21:44]
dub mjr_: yes and 'the internet' has fundamentally changed a few times to cope with scaling [21:44]
mjr_ i think that there is what IS...what the market has decided [21:44]
mjr_ dub: as will bitcoin [21:44]
jborkl dub are you Luke? cause this sounds like his stupid logic [21:44]
mircea_popescu jborkl i think he's trying to make sense of that position. [21:45]
dub jborkl: fuck you :) [21:45]
mjr_ think about it this way [21:45]
jborkl only biblethumperrs can use bitcoin [21:45]
jcpham pretty sure dub and Luke-Jr are same person [21:45]
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mircea_popescu jcpham troll. [21:45]
mjr_ there is nothing stopping miners to band together and block whatever traffic they want to [21:45]
mircea_popescu you're grubles [21:45]
mjr_ so if it is so important, they will [21:45]
jcpham how did you figure it out mircea_popescu [21:45]
dub mjr_: yes there is, economic incentive [21:45]
mircea_popescu mjr_ and yet nobody mines at elegius [21:45]
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jborkl lol [21:45]
mircea_popescu jcpham i looked in the colon [21:45]
mjr_ LOL [21:45]
jborkl dead pool [21:46]
mjr_ exactly, the free market has decided that sdice is a good thing [21:46]
jcpham rectal exam, eh [21:46]
mjr_ so it is [21:46]
dub there is no such thing as free market [21:46]
mjr_ there are all our individual choices [21:46]
mircea_popescu dub now there is. [21:46]
mjr_ in aggregate [21:46]
jcpham implying no such thing as free will [21:46]
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dub to have a free market you need informed players [21:46]
mjr_ the point is that no one can say "i want to shape the future of bitcoin" [21:46]
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mjr_ no you don't [21:46]
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mjr_ you just need players [21:47]
mircea_popescu sexy playas [21:47]
mjr_ that is like saying "in natural selection you can only have fast deer" [21:47]
jborkl That is fucking stupid to say, you only need participants [21:47]
jcpham the only free market i know of is freicoin [21:47]
dub we know from the abject failure of capitalism that there are not enough informed players to make it work [21:47]
mjr_ hmmm yes [21:47]
dub mining is the same [21:47]
mircea_popescu dub the only reason capitalism failed was because idiots with "should" abandoned it [21:47]
mircea_popescu to make "a better version" [21:47]
mjr_ obviously america has not gotten a stranglehold over the world [21:47]
mjr_ it hasn't worked for them AT ALL [21:47]
mircea_popescu the soviet union, the united soviets of america, the blabla [21:47]
mircea_popescu as long as people submit to natural law the take over the world. [21:48]
jborkl you cant inflate bitcon 10 million percent now can you [21:48]
dub mjr_: its not scaling [21:48]
jborkl bitcoin [21:48]
jcpham i'm pretty sure the united nations is an illuminati sect [21:48]
mircea_popescu as soon as they start thinking they know what *should* be what [21:48]
mjr_ for anyone to say that the people who came up with this system didn't get what they want is retarded [21:48]
mircea_popescu ... blamo [21:48]
mjr_ that is the point, if what you think "should" happen, then if it really should, it will...if it shouldn't it won't [21:48]
jcpham Kim Dotcom is Satoshi Nakamoto in .... Point Break [21:48]
mjr_ because if the majority agree...they do it, if they don't, you were wrong [21:49]
dub the majority don't agree [21:49]
dub the majority are not capable of participating [21:49]
jborkl the majority with money agree, the rest dont count [21:49]
mjr_ um...the fact that sdice transactions are included begs to differ [21:49]
dub because they are stupid [21:49]
mjr_ irrelevant [21:49]
dub the are included now sure [21:49]
mjr_ they verify the transactions [21:49]
mircea_popescu the majority with money agree, the rest dont count << this guy is mircea_popescu [21:49]
mjr_ so if the market decides to stop then they are right [21:49]
dub the market wont decide to stop because teh mining 'market' is not informed [21:50]
dub this has been shown plenty of times [21:50]
mjr_ ok...so it is not important to them to stop this [21:50]
mjr_ if it were [21:50]
dub it will take a technical probelm to change them [21:50]
mjr_ they would [21:50]
dub which is hwat is happening [21:50]
mjr_ ok, so let one come, and then they will adjust [21:50]
mjr_ i see no problem [21:50]
mjr_ transactions still working [21:50]
mircea_popescu lol the old holdout of marauding socialism [21:51]
dub sure if you accept that 6 confs doesnt take an hour anymore [21:51]
mircea_popescu "the poor aren't voting to steal from the rich because they've not been sufficiently explaining the benefits of theft" [21:51]
mjr_ seriously, why does everyone feel the need to nurture something that is bigger than them and smarter [21:51]
mircea_popescu "we gotta go out there and really inform them" [21:51]
dub bitcoin adoption as a whole may not accept that [21:51]
jcpham is atlas in here right now [21:51]
jcpham is that what just happened [21:51]
mjr_ my point is that everyone votes with their mining power [21:51]
dub were people asleep yesterday? [21:52]
dub did you notice it took all day to send coin? [21:52]
jborkl only one person filters SD transactions that I know of, and his pool is dying [21:52]
jcpham dub i got my txns in before noon central [21:52]
mjr_ exactly [21:52]
jcpham no delays [21:52]
mircea_popescu jborkl to be fair, they've been fading for a while [21:52]
jborkl true [21:52]
mircea_popescu dub because of sdice ? [21:52]
jborkl His point of view caused that [21:52]
dub mircea_popescu: yes [21:53]
mircea_popescu oh get out [21:53]
mircea_popescu it was a small day for s.dice [21:53]
mircea_popescu this incidentallty shows clearly how misplaced all the sd trolling is. [21:53]
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dub mircea_popescu: they raised their fee, pushing all their usually slow confirming txn to the front of the queue [21:53]
mircea_popescu the network works fine with sd. what it doesn't work fine with is the appalingly poor quality of coding [21:53]
jborkl The new bitcoin client .8, uses all cpu cores correct- where .7 only used one? [21:53]
jarpiain jborkl jcpham JimmyHo2 jurov JWU42 [21:53]
dub mircea_popescu: it was teh tipping point for block size limit [21:53]
mircea_popescu jborkl i think so [21:53]
jborkl so, as people upgrade clients- transactions get passed faster [21:54]
mircea_popescu dub for the arbitrarily stupid 250k block limit baked in [21:54]
mircea_popescu by the sort of idiots that also broke the way bitcoind creates txns [21:54]
dub ok so we're back to the scaling argument [21:54]
jborkl I changed my client to 500, it took like 5 seconds [21:54]
mircea_popescu basically, bitcoin needs actual devs. [21:54]
mircea_popescu no. [21:54]
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mircea_popescu most of the people who had bitcoin for no reason are out, thanks to pirate and the other scasmmers [21:54]
mjr__ anyways, i just am tired of hearing about what people "should" do [21:54]
mircea_popescu the problem is most of the people who think they're devs for no reason aren;t out yet. [21:54]
mircea_popescu but it will filter out. [21:55]
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mircea_popescu people like gmaxwell, hearn, luke etc are just dead weight [21:55]
dub that is very much part of the problem [21:55]
mircea_popescu too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are [21:55]
mircea_popescu taaki is already gone, [21:55]
mircea_popescu they're next [21:55]
mircea_popescu and so it goes. [21:55]
mjr__ i don't think they are stupid necessarily [21:55]
dub but is it easier to replace teh dev team or get SD to implement their own ledger [21:55]
mjr__ i just think they are used to systems where they are in charge [21:55]
mircea_popescu dub you always remove the broken thing [21:55]
mircea_popescu you never fix the easy thing to "fix" [21:56]
dub bullshit [21:56]
jborkl you are trying to control one thing, what aboput the next thing [21:56]
mircea_popescu no, it's how it works. [21:56]
dub jesus [21:56]
mircea_popescu dub there's no dealmaking here. [21:56]
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dub that is laughable [21:56]
mircea_popescu if they suck they go [21:56]
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mjr__ i am just saying, if you have the mining hardware, then your thoughts on this (actually your actions) may matter...no one else's opinion really does [21:56]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1596786#msg1596786 [21:57]
mircea_popescu jurov is rthat you ? [21:57]
mircea_popescu or do they mean me ? [21:57]
dub mjr__: I'm not suggesting miners will exclude SD [22:00]
mjr__ i take it you don't like the Soft BP? [22:00]
mjr__ I am just tired of hearing about how bad sdice is [22:00]
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mjr__ let's see...provided successful model for crowdsourcing anonymously? check [22:01]
dub and romantic ideals aside, this is really just a question of, will the everyman use bitcoin if its p2p'ness goes away [22:01]
mjr__ gave a lot of publicity to bitcoin? check [22:01]
mjr__ brought in users? check [22:01]
dub personally I think the problem will be solved differently [22:02]
dub but there is a scaling problem due to SD, you can't argue against that [22:02]
mircea_popescu dub sd exposed bad coding in the bitcoin base. [22:03]
mircea_popescu i can agree with that much. [22:03]
mircea_popescu then again every practical use of prototype code will expose bad code [22:03]
mircea_popescu it's the fucking point [22:03]
mircea_popescu the idea is to take the correct dev attitude "o sorry we eat c0x. working to fix" [22:03]
mircea_popescu rather than the incorrect dev attitude of "so don't do that!" [22:03]
MobPhone burnside you around [22:03]
Lyspooner mpex.co is eating c0x, no? [22:04]
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mircea_popescu Lyspooner yes. [22:09]
Lyspooner that's the attitude! [22:09]
mircea_popescu now where was that pastebin [22:09]
Lyspooner you see how it's done, people? [22:10]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner http://pastebin.com/8dWy851p [22:10]
mircea_popescu you missed out on all the fun [22:10]
mjr__ oh nice [22:10]
mjr__ mt gox finally got their websockets back up [22:10]
MobPhone ! help [22:10]
MobPhone hmm [22:11]
mjr__ no space mobphone [22:11]
MobPhone !help [22:11]
assbot List of commands: [22:11]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) [22:11]
mjr__ !ticker mpoe s.dice [22:11]
assbot The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire. [22:11]
MobPhone !ticker mpex [22:11]
assbot These beans is shit. [22:11]
mjr__ !ticker mpoe [22:12]
assbot You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. [22:12]
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mjr__ !ticker s.mpoe [22:12]
assbot Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'? [22:12]
mircea_popescu the correct syntax is !ticker m s.mpoe, but assbot is not talking to mpex atm. [22:12]
MobPhone !ticker havelock [22:12]
assbot Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way? [22:12]
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MobPhone hmm [22:12]
dub mircea_popescu: so in a free market world, you should be joining the foundation, lobbying for and funding your own devs to correct the problem [22:12]
mjr__ if it was worth his time or if he found it worthwihle [22:13]
deadweasel so we all eat c0x and hence improve. [22:13]
mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/hUcC01nB here's a paste of the vwap page current [22:13]
MobPhone mjr__ hello [22:13]
dub its not like it would be unwelcome, gavin has tried to get rid of luke before [22:13]
mjr__ that is the whole point of the free market, everyone does what they want [22:13]
FabianB finding good devs is not easy [22:13]
mircea_popescu dub i am not joinint no bs foundation. [22:13]
mircea_popescu i am telling the devs what things are [22:13]
mircea_popescu if they don't follow i'm going to start my own devteam and fork bitcoin. [22:13]
dub well do that then but its chosing the harder option [22:14]
mircea_popescu i like hard options. [22:14]
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mircea_popescu and this is not about me either [22:15]
mircea_popescu the miners, the larger ones anyway, will be starting their own clients [22:15]
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dub right, so much like we won't have teh market you percieve as free for much longer, bitcoin will stop working [22:15]
mircea_popescu maybe not this year, but the next or in 2015 for sure [22:15]
mircea_popescu it won't stop working. [22:15]
mircea_popescu it will stop caring about people's wishes tho. [22:16]
mircea_popescu to the degree that it does now, which is tenuous [22:16]
dub yes that is the opnly option [22:16]
dub stop carign about peoples wish for decentralisation and low fees [22:16]
mircea_popescu people's wish for low fees they can shove [22:16]
mircea_popescu fees will be exactly as high as the market will bear. [22:16]
mircea_popescu there's no room for the entitled poor in the new world. [22:16]
dub its still kinda one of teh selling points [22:17]
dub and with centralisation you extinguish the last facade of anonynimity [22:17]
dub so you're gettign back to being a credit card [22:17]
mircea_popescu and people thought stalin was hardline. [22:18]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu. more hardline than stalin. just... the other direction. [22:18]
mircea_popescu dub anonimity is doing fine. [22:18]
mircea_popescu it never existed to begin with. pseudonimity however is just as 100% as it always was. [22:19]
dub we're not talkign about now [22:19]
mircea_popescu forever. [22:19]
mircea_popescu in my estimation, asic mining wll be a lot more decentralised than gpu mining [22:20]
mircea_popescu which was VERY centralised, but by idiots [22:20]
mircea_popescu people like gigavps, amazingrando, hashking et all had a disproportionate share of power in the ecosystem [22:21]
mircea_popescu which they went and fucked up. [22:21]
mircea_popescu it was based on the shaky foundation of marginal personal ability, cause running a gpu farm is a logistic nightmare. [22:21]
mircea_popescu it did use the cheap "anyone can run a gpu" fud tactic, but in fact it was as centralised as it can get. [22:21]
mircea_popescu anyone can run an asic. so... que the end of that system. [22:22]
dub its NO different [22:22]
mircea_popescu it's different in some ways at least. [22:22]
dub not once teh generational change has completed [22:22]
mircea_popescu it will be a case of "he who has 1000 bucks gets a vote" [22:23]
mircea_popescu instead of "he who has 200 dollars and spends his time f5-ing amazon and knows how to make fire hazard pics in his basement" [22:23]
mircea_popescu i much prefer the former. it's cleaner. [22:23]
dub im not following [22:23]
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mircea_popescu well... where ? [22:24]
dub you think mining will be more distributed with higher cost to play? [22:24]
dub or more solo miners? [22:24]
mircea_popescu there will be a SMALLER cost to play. [22:24]
mircea_popescu it will however be cash upfront. [22:24]
dub mining has been centralised since pools appeared [22:24]
mircea_popescu before the cost to play was, 200 bucks + 5k worth of computer competence. [22:24]
mircea_popescu now it's 1k bucks and a power outlet. [22:25]
mircea_popescu overall cost went down by 80% [22:25]
mircea_popescu it's just some people don't know how to account, and so the 5k "is free" [22:25]
mircea_popescu but let me put it this other way : [22:25]
mircea_popescu there are at least 100mn people in this world who can spend 1k dollars. [22:26]
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mircea_popescu there are MAYBE 1mn people in this world who have the skills to run gpu rigs but do not have gainful employment [22:26]
miscreanity asics are plug and play - gpus required a considerable amount of experise and se to manage [22:26]
mircea_popescu unsuirprisingly, they;'re mostly mental deffecrtive / weird / marginal doods. [22:26]
dub bullshit [22:26]
mircea_popescu so our miner putative market increased by a factor of 10k% [22:26]
mircea_popescu dub hey, it may well be bullshit [22:27]
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mircea_popescu but it's what i think on the matter. [22:27]
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deadweasel I think we can all agree that the continued eating of c0x by all users/miners/devs will improve bitcoin or it's bastard children. [22:28]
dub it sounds like youa re arguing that like gamers mining on their 1-2 gpus, a lot of randoms will decide to grab an asic and mine [22:28]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoinity.org/markets [22:28]
deadweasel *its [22:28]
mircea_popescu do these graphs look right to anyone ?! [22:28]
mircea_popescu dub no. [22:28]
dub reality is asic mining will centralise much more than gpu mining did [22:29]
mircea_popescu i am arguing that for every wanna-break the world kid / bank clerk who thinks he's a banker / duimbass kid who thinks writing "options" on a webpage makes him an options trader [22:29]
mircea_popescu that get pushed our mercilessly [22:29]
jurov bitcoinity workd [22:29]
jurov *works here [22:29]
mircea_popescu there will be 10 to 100 actual sane people [22:29]
dub as soon as diff normalises its the same game [22:29]
mircea_popescu dub no because the cost to be the top dog will have went from own 500 items worth 200 each [22:30]
dub either eek out a tiny margin on your gaming rig/hobby asic or go large [22:30]
mircea_popescu to own 50`000 items worth 1k each [22:30]
mircea_popescu so from 100k to 50mn [22:30]
mircea_popescu jurov it does work, but the graph looks like wtf. [22:30]
jborkl instead of "he who has 200 dollars and spends his time f5-ing amazon and knows how to make fire hazard pics in his basement [22:30]
jurov yes the debpth (bottom graph) is wtf in firefox. but in konqueror+webkit it's fine [22:31]
mircea_popescu and if you think people won't be buying asics at 1k a pop, let me tell you something : [22:32]
mircea_popescu when that hungarian scammer showed up it he was checked out the next day [22:32]
mircea_popescu by independent teams. [22:32]
mircea_popescu there is demand. come out with an inventory of asics you will sell 10-100k units in a month if you can actuyally deliver them. [22:32]
ZedsterX ;;burnside [22:32]
gribble Error: "burnside" is not a valid command. [22:32]
ZedsterX ;;seen burnside [22:32]
gribble burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 22 hours, and 30 seconds ago: I don't think so. [22:32]
dub mircea_popescu: exactly the same thing will happen as happened with gpu [22:33]
ZedsterX i have been given a free scam lightning miner 4.0 unit [22:34]
jborkl people that know what to do with them made money? [22:34]
dub when people get sick of the heat, noise and earning $2/week they will get out [22:34]
dub which will leave people who are doign ot as a business [22:35]
kakobrekla funny, 100mhash revenue in euro dollars is same as 1 year ago give or take [22:35]
kakobrekla http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php [22:35]
dub sure for 10 minutes [22:36]
ThickAsThieves what a captivating update... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1597133#msg1597133 [22:36]
deadweasel https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1597133#msg1597133 [22:36]
deadweasel sry [22:36]
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dub when that hungarian scammer showed up it he was checked out the next day [22:39]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves does that say anything ?! [22:39]
jcpham i've been debating whether or not to run more gpu/more fpga every day [22:39]
ThickAsThieves i cant tell [22:39]
dub I don't need to tell you that the only people who checked it out are serious miners [22:39]
jcpham i'd really like to acquire 3x singles [22:39]
mircea_popescu you do need to tell me that so i can lol. [22:39]
mircea_popescu i had it checked out dood. im no miner at all. [22:39]
dub a few extra mindless forum babies does not a decentralised verification network make [22:40]
mircea_popescu think about it : i am going to get a mining cluster which i will run for purely strategic reasons [22:40]
mircea_popescu mpex needs assurance that idiots like luke-jr stay irrelevant. [22:40]
mircea_popescu so will pretty much every single service built on top of bitcoin [22:40]
dub stop being trite [22:40]
mircea_popescu then add the pro miners [22:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.45 = 7.25 BTC [+] [22:41]
mircea_popescu then add all the people who want to run a 1k unit [22:41]
dub if you got into mining you it would not be with one asic [22:41]
mircea_popescu dub i can calculate how many asics i need to have in order to guarantee my payments make it witin an arbitrary timeframe [22:41]
mircea_popescu this is basic provisioning. [22:41]
dub yes which is beyond 90% of would be miners [22:41]
mircea_popescu so ? [22:41]
jcpham strategic mining is a subject i like [22:41]
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mircea_popescu jcpham i bet you in 2013 we will have special mining software allowing miner to issue orders much like ip routing tables [22:42]
ThickAsThieves what is even being argued here? [22:42]
mircea_popescu "always include my txs, irrespective of fee" [22:42]
ThickAsThieves whether there will be more and more prosumer miners? [22:42]
jcpham hrm [22:42]
mircea_popescu "always include txs to these addies, if fee is x" [22:42]
mircea_popescu etc. [22:42]
mircea_popescu there will be a dedicated box preparing the mempool for mine rigs in most farms [22:43]
dub so every bitcoin merchant has a mining farm to confirm its txn [22:43]
mircea_popescu dub yep. [22:43]
dub hell, why not an altchain each [22:43]
jcpham jeebus [22:43]
jcpham i'm getting hella paid leasing my rigs then [22:43]
mircea_popescu dub if bitcoin fucks up you bet your sweet life an altchain each. [22:43]
jcpham mining cooperatives are an excellent idea [22:44]
mircea_popescu the girl hinted as much at some point arguing with the hearn&co idiot parade. [22:44]
mircea_popescu jcpham a revenue stream will be table leasing [22:44]
jcpham even though everyone hates on it [22:44]
mircea_popescu people will pay you to include their rules. [22:44]
mircea_popescu soon enough there will be a market for mempool gatway rules. [22:44]
mircea_popescu talk about driving innovation. [22:44]
mjr__ yep [22:45]
dub yeah, you just invented fiat [22:45]
mircea_popescu suddenly yet another reason for 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx emerges. [22:46]
mircea_popescu it will be a LOT easier to handle those issues with fixed addies [22:46]
mircea_popescu sdice has an advantage too. [22:46]
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dub you realise that your anonymity model is bunk when you only connect to nodes you transact with [22:47]
BingoBongo So this got Hearn's panties in a bunch even though he does so much work with SPV clients? [22:48]
mjr__ mircea, how can i get quotes right now? [22:49]
mircea_popescu mjr__ right now you can't. what are you trying to do ? [22:50]
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mircea_popescu dub i am not interested in being anon. [22:50]
mircea_popescu obviously other people will implement other models. [22:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 1.45 = 29 BTC [+] [23:03]
mircea_popescu BingoBongo i dunno what his problem was. [23:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+] [23:04]
BingoBongo Too soft for the interwebz maybe? [23:04]
mircea_popescu maybe. [23:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [+] [23:06]
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BingoBongo I could see getting pissed about colored coins or the dude who put and MP3 on testnet trying that on the real blockchain, but miners filtering transactions? Gavin reccommends conf settings for miners. [23:07]
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mircea_popescu BingoBongo o, no, no. the argument was about hm [23:09]
mircea_popescu da fuck was it about [23:09]
mircea_popescu o yes, i think he wanted increased block size. [23:09]
mircea_popescu and honestly i think colored coins are a horrible nonstarter. i can only imagine the sort of crap that'd occur if they caught on [23:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.45 = 8.7 BTC [+] [23:10]
mircea_popescu and there'd be satoshi's running around everywhere [23:10]
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mjr__ mircea: just wanted to see where my positions were at [23:10]
mjr__ no big deal [23:10]
mircea_popescu mjr__ trade is practgically frozen so nothing much would have changed. [23:10]
mjr__ cool [23:10]
mircea_popescu that;s kinda it, i could have come up with a pure vpn solution [23:11]
mircea_popescu and only allow trusted people on the network to talk to the exchange [23:11]
mircea_popescu (which incidentally is how things work irl ) [23:11]
mircea_popescu however, i judged that'd create a haves/havesnot disparity that's both huge and sudden [23:11]
mircea_popescu better and fairer just freeze things for a little bit. [23:11]
mjr__ i agree [23:14]
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mjr__ i like the protected message open channel [23:15]
mircea_popescu but to expand on the plan : as an absolute rock bottom if things can't be otherwise resolved within a week, i will publish a gmail address, and trade will work via email (you email your paste instead of putting into site, you get it back) [23:15]
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mjr__ out of curiosity and i haven't really thought this all the way through [23:15]
mircea_popescu as a relative rock bottom, if things can't be otherwise resolved within a couple of days i will have a vpn installed. this has the disadvantage that it puts the brokers in an iffy spot [23:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.55 = 3.1 BTC [+] [23:16]
mircea_popescu also, we are currently working on using irc bot much like gribble works. there should be one up soon and another during weekend. [23:16]
mjr__ would a recaptcha and session timeout not solve most of it? [23:16]
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mircea_popescu and also, much larger infrastructure should be coming online during the 8th. [23:16]
mircea_popescu mjr__ nope. [23:16]
mircea_popescu it would solve nothing at all. routers are getting friend, not boxes. [23:16]
mjr__ oh ok [23:17]
mjr__ true [23:17]
mjr__ and i'm sure that they are randomizing the addresses enough to bypass any sort of blacklist rirght? [23:17]
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mjr__ and CDN couldn't fix either? [23:17]
mircea_popescu cdn doesn't do this. there are ddos protection services out there, but all have their own issues [23:18]
mjr__ i'm sure you have thought this through [23:18]
mircea_popescu it's a long story. [23:18]
mjr__ yeah [23:18]
mjr__ i was just curious for my own benefit [23:18]
mjr__ as to how one combats this [23:18]
mircea_popescu well, for your own benefit : [23:18]
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mjr__ i'm really fine regardless [23:18]
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mircea_popescu cloudflare is very cheap (like200 a month) but it's mostly intended for random kid dickery. [23:18]
mjr__ buy and hold [23:18]
mircea_popescu this is not what we're dealing with here. [23:18]
mjr__ yeah lol; [23:19]
mjr__ this is quite sustained [23:19]
BingoBongo Cloudflare goes down enough on its own [23:19]
mircea_popescu blacklotus is expensive, and i have yet to locate anyone that can give me the straight dope about what they actually do./ [23:19]
mircea_popescu incapsula is sorta like more of a midmarket thing [23:19]
mjr__ hmmm, and since it is routers not boxes, proxies won't really help? [23:20]
mircea_popescu mjr__ proxies help in the exact sort of way i had it set-up : open web proxy which connects on a sort of private vpn to mpex webservers [23:20]
mircea_popescu but the thing is, they actually took the time to blow up all these. [23:20]
mjr__ hmmm, i have a little idea [23:20]
mjr__ but it is rough [23:20]
mjr__ and would depend on what router capabilities [23:21]
mjr__ and whether you have control/access to it [23:21]
mircea_popescu hm ? [23:21]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [23:21]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.72301, Best ask: 42.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11699, Last trade: 42.72301, 24 hour volume: 162226.99314014, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 46.74900, 24 hour vwap: 41.19641 [23:21]
thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX [23:21]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what is the OIX [23:21]
assbot It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money. [23:22]
mjr__ i'm wondering if you could basically require a signed message in the http header request to get to the webserver [23:22]
mircea_popescu mjr__ the ddos is not actually containing headers. [23:22]
mjr__ ie. the router would drop all traffic that did not contain the signed header [23:22]
mjr__ damn UTP shit? [23:22]
mjr__ UDP [23:22]
mircea_popescu a complete mess and mix. [23:22]
mjr__ typo lol [23:22]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller it's the options sentiment index. [23:22]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I meant what is it currently atm [23:26]
thestringpuller SINCE YOU HAVEN'T FIXED MPEX [23:26]
thestringpuller stop making people angry at you [23:26]
mircea_popescu lemme see [23:26]
Lyspooner my sentiment is that the options aren't there right now [23:27]
mjr__ hmm couldn't you conceivably use QoS to give http traffic priority on the router [23:27]
dub not if the router is on fire [23:27]
mircea_popescu {"avg": "4713745617","min": "3024713516","max": "4853472885","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.62504497419E+12","cnt": ""} [23:27]
mircea_popescu mjr__ understand, the box was doing something like 0.07 load all through the ddos. [23:27]
mircea_popescu it's not the server at all. [23:28]
thestringpuller damn [23:28]
thestringpuller option index is still bullish on the current price [23:28]
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mircea_popescu well yeah, because [23:28]
mircea_popescu a. a lot of calls closed up past 24 hours. those don't count. [23:28]
mircea_popescu b. a lot of longass short puts were closed, which does count [23:29]
mircea_popescu but it counts from way up, so it makes the put side kinda high too [23:29]
Lyspooner yowch [23:29]
thestringpuller I hope MPOE-bot is holding it together... [23:29]
mircea_popescu i mean put side is up to 30, from like 22 earlier [23:29]
mircea_popescu mpoe bot is like... wtf did everyone go ? [23:29]
mircea_popescu getting depressed and loneyl. [23:29]
BingoBongo Mircea, maybe you should tweet @binarybits about this interesting bitcoin story he could run on Ars... Any publicity is good publicity... [23:30]
dub im not sure 'we had to close doors due to ddos' is great publicity [23:31]
mircea_popescu lol [23:32]
mircea_popescu anything can be turned into great publicity. [23:32]
dub and singing of imminent mitigation may be premature [23:32]
mircea_popescu your wife's a whore ? well... at least she's hawt. [23:32]
BingoBongo Gox is alive after all of those Haxxed stories [23:32]
mircea_popescu i think there's enough presence to keep the stakeholders appraised. [23:33]
dub gox is alive because nobody has mannned up to replace it [23:33]
jcpham send a cryptic email explaining how the hot wallet backup was unencrypted and accesible via telnet [23:33]
mircea_popescu other than that... heh. [23:33]
dub nobody is a willing user of gox [23:33]
mircea_popescu jcpham i think someone might have noticed that mpex didn't answer on 23 [23:34]
mircea_popescu or wait, was 23 ftp ? [23:34]
jcpham jokes [23:34]
jurov no, telnet iirc [23:34]
jcpham you should make aup along crytpic convoluted story [23:35]
jborkl rackspace? [23:35]
jcpham involving backups and password in source codes [23:35]
jcpham secret agents [23:35]
jurov and vampires [23:35]
jcpham mos def vampires [23:35]
jcpham make the story long enough and people will stop caring about halfway through reading [23:36]
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mircea_popescu maybe mpoe-pr could be a vamp [23:36]
mircea_popescu ire [23:36]
jcpham they'll just figure it's another scam [23:36]
dub you could use nntp tbh [23:36]
jcpham then add the word "Psyche" at the end. [23:36]
jurov http://live.coinbr.com/ THE SHOW MUST GO ON [23:36]
mircea_popescu dub i was more considering that guy's bitmessage p2p thing [23:37]
dub google groups can probably take teh dos [23:37]
dub heh, I've been ddos'd ~700 times in teh last month [23:40]
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dub acording to arbor anyway, I don't recall noticing any of them [23:41]
mircea_popescu ya well, they gotta sell themselves somehow. [23:42]
mircea_popescu that's kind of the problem, very chinese market out there. "yes sir i tell you we do ddosprotection" [23:42]
dub yep [23:42]
mircea_popescu "o wait, you mean ddos as in, 6-7 gb sustained with 20gb peaks ?! OMG TAKE A HIKE" [23:42]
dub its a racket for sure [23:42]
Lyspooner http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html [23:45]
mircea_popescu Visa processed 37 billion [23:47]
mircea_popescu transactions in FY2008 [23:47]
mircea_popescu afaik that number is off [23:47]
mircea_popescu more like 3.7 [23:47]
Lyspooner well at least satoshi was considering very big block sizes [23:48]
Lyspooner and specialized mining hardware [23:49]
mircea_popescu If a small number of entities are issuing new coins, [23:49]
mircea_popescu this is more resistant to state attack that with a [23:49]
mircea_popescu single issuer, but the government regularly attacks [23:49]
mircea_popescu financial networks, with the financial collapse ensuing [23:49]
mircea_popescu from the most recent attack still under way as I write [23:49]
mircea_popescu this. [23:49]
mircea_popescu Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in [23:49]
mircea_popescu due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil [23:49]
mircea_popescu financial network is bigger than the honest financial [23:49]
mircea_popescu network, with the result that even though everyone knows [23:49]
mircea_popescu what is happening, people continue to use the paper [23:49]
mircea_popescu issued by the evil financial network, because of network [23:49]
mircea_popescu effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use [23:49]
mircea_popescu if you want to do business. [23:49]
mircea_popescu that guy is smart. [23:49]
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mod6 ;;calc 3700000000/365 [23:51]
gribble 10136986.3014 [23:51]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] [23:52]
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mod6 so ~10 million [23:52]
thestringpuller mod6, side bar [23:53]
mod6 http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-total << says we're between 12-14m per day [23:53]
* mod6 ponders [23:53]
Lyspooner *not per day [23:54]
Lyspooner *per ever [23:54]
Lyspooner mod6, you're looking for this? http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions [23:54]
mod6 oh my bad [23:55]
Lyspooner we're like Visa transactions in Kansas City [23:55]
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mod6 that seems much more realistic. [23:55]
mod6 i should have examined that closer [23:56]
jborkl Mp, what about using bitcoin to send the trade message to your address. cant ddos the entire network, put the encypted message inside a signed transactions- use it just like SD does [23:56]
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mircea_popescu jborkl " cant ddos the entire network" << o but they can. [23:56]
jborkl well, it would be much harder [23:56]
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mircea_popescu it would be painful, especially if they go after nodes one at a time [23:57]
dub yeah, tell that to dalnet [23:57]
jborkl yes, if they tracked your first relay and knocked it off, then next one [23:57]
jborkl but you can change your relay in bitcoind easily [23:57]
dub but I support this move, if only to see the rage from Luke-Jr [23:57]
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jborkl and you could build trusted relay nodes to push transactions [23:58]
mircea_popescu dub i could start with his relays lol [23:58]
jborkl lol, that would piss him off so bad [23:58]
mircea_popescu jborkl what i'd do is cause a lot of grief to people otherwise ill equipped to cope. [23:59]
jborkl it would be worth it [23:59]
jborkl ok, fair enough [23:59]
mircea_popescu im not here to cause trouble, contrary to what you might have heard. [23:59]
mircea_popescu i'll be bringing more capacity online and that's that. [23:59]
jborkl I don't think you are [23:59]
mircea_popescu was just being facetious hehe [23:59]
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