Forum logs for 07 Mar 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu | sucks. | [00:00] |
AndroUser512 | Haven't seen aethero today to ask | [00:00] |
jurov | i see nothing untoward on frontpage | [00:00] |
BitHub | alot of people were asking were you were about 8 hours ago mircea | [00:00] |
BitHub | told them you got kidnapped by the CIA again | [00:00] |
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mircea_popescu | cia party & barhopping special unit | [00:01] |
jurov | poor smickles,just came after 3wks and immediately had to calm the situation | [00:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.00549 = 2.745 BTC [+] | [00:02] |
mircea_popescu | it was funny, cause when he went the other ddos was recent | [00:03] |
mircea_popescu | sorta like a bridge in tiem for him | [00:03] |
kakobrekla | oh god. | [00:05] |
kakobrekla | glbse drama still aint over | [00:05] |
Namworld | where? | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | necessarily on the forum | [00:05] |
kakobrekla | naaa | [00:06] |
kakobrekla | http://pastebin.com/XU3Wf9gu | [00:07] |
BitHub | glbse drama fo life | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | lol so our friendly ddosers actually wiped the upstream provider. | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | NOW mpex is offline. | [00:10] |
jurov | indeed | [00:10] |
mircea_popescu | i guess never scorn a script kiddie. | [00:11] |
Lyspooner | hell hath no fury like a script kiddie scorned | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | anyway. should be resolved momentarily. | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | the worst case scenario is we move over to tor. | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | that'd likely be a coupla days of downtime. | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | in between these extremes a number of intermediate solutions. | [00:12] |
Lyspooner | Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a script kiddie scorned | [00:13] |
kakobrekla | so the proxy idea doesnt work after all | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla well anything on the internet is limited by the internet actually existing. | [00:13] |
BitHub | it is? | [00:14] |
BitHub | dear god | [00:14] |
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jurov | mircea_popescu can't the engine just get moved to completely different dc? | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | jurov yes, it could. | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | but i dislike this sort of solutions, just hop around dcs ? | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | what if i need to take a piss one day ? | [00:15] |
jurov | and only proxies would know where.. as long as it stays secret, no hoppin necessary | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | this is a small scale garden variety tor implementation. | [00:15] |
kakobrekla | tor sux | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | why ? | [00:15] |
Lyspooner | Uncertainty and expectation are the joys of life. Security is an insipid thing. | [00:16] |
mircea_popescu | Lyspooner shush you, you're not the one with the suspended exchange. | [00:16] |
Lyspooner | that's not me, that's william congreve | [00:16] |
kakobrekla | tor is not friendly | [00:16] |
mod6 | for whom? | [00:16] |
kakobrekla | to ME | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla mpex would be on tor, proxies would be on normal web. | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | problem is it's slow | [00:17] |
kakobrekla | what the point then | [00:17] |
kakobrekla | if proxies hide location | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | well look, ddos mitigation is an exercise in moving upstream. | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | what i had here was enough to make 10-100 Gb attacks ineffectual. | [00:18] |
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mircea_popescu | someone taking down all tor nodes is a coupla degrees of magnitude over that. | [00:18] |
kakobrekla | ya but they still know your current location | [00:19] |
kakobrekla | and you need to change that | [00:19] |
kakobrekla | if they are fuckin your isp | [00:19] |
kakobrekla | or what | [00:19] |
mircea_popescu | half of gnax atlanta is dark atm. | [00:20] |
kakobrekla | and if you change it to unknown its same shit if you keep it hidden via tor or via decent http proxies | [00:20] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla not really, you can actually trace to source with http proxies. | [00:20] |
mircea_popescu | may take a week or two, sure. | [00:21] |
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kakobrekla | eh? | [00:21] |
kakobrekla | if they cant take tpb down with a solution like that | [00:21] |
kakobrekla | they cant take you down | [00:21] |
mircea_popescu | possibly. | [00:22] |
jcpham | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19s3jh/dear_coinbase_please_order_some_more_coins_asap/ | [00:23] |
jcpham | "If Coinbase borrowed inventory off btcjam (as btcquick does) they'd probably fund pretty quickly and have a better cost basis" | [00:23] |
jcpham | the internet is full of idiots today | [00:23] |
jcpham | i give up | [00:23] |
chmod755 | lol | [00:23] |
jcpham | so the btcjam coins are being sold, eh | [00:23] |
BitHub | good idea | [00:23] |
jcpham | this idea is familiar | [00:24] |
BitHub | mpex should lend out 100btc on btcjam and never see any of teh btc again | [00:24] |
jurov | do we know where the bticointalk coins ended up? | [00:24] |
jurov | btw | [00:24] |
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jcpham | selling borrowed coins was tried a few times at least once already | [00:24] |
jcpham | none of the borrowed coins were returned afaik | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [00:24] |
BitHub | btcjam should be ddosed | [00:25] |
BitHub | piece of shit site/service | [00:25] |
kakobrekla | point mpex dns to them | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | lmao ahaghaha | [00:25] |
jcpham | apparently they are more liquid that coinbase | [00:25] |
jcpham | which boggles me | [00:25] |
BitHub | demented animals that invent this crap | [00:25] |
jcpham | so apparently reddit can't find btc | [00:25] |
jcpham | and gox orders are stacking up | [00:26] |
jcpham | all the bitcoins are gone! | [00:26] |
mod6 | kakobrekla: that's a one out of the rg playbook :) | [00:26] |
pigeons | coinlab will roll out its instawallet clone | [00:26] |
BitHub | powered by SEC | [00:26] |
jcpham | maybe coinlab should roll out a lending service | [00:26] |
pigeons | Tom Williams | [00:26] |
jcpham | those work great for liquidity | [00:26] |
jcpham | ooh ooh iknow | [00:27] |
pigeons | coinlab is gonna bring bitcoin to wallstreet man | [00:27] |
jcpham | they could pay interest on deposits | [00:27] |
BitHub | stop giving coinlab ideas | [00:27] |
BitHub | jesus | [00:27] |
BitHub | next you'll be telling them how to offer insurance | [00:27] |
BitHub | fuck ya | [00:27] |
jcpham | they could pay interest on deposits and then use those deposited coins to sell | [00:27] |
pigeons | ooh and they should offer coin storage | [00:28] |
BitHub | NO PIGEON | [00:28] |
jcpham | ooh maybe even a mixer | [00:28] |
pigeons | and a gpu farm integrated into independent video games | [00:28] |
jcpham | for MAX ANON | [00:28] |
BitHub | they're already cutting into BitHub's market share | [00:28] |
jcpham | ooh yeah that too | [00:28] |
pigeons | all ur gamerz r teh goldz | [00:28] |
jcpham | just wait until one of these guys starts offering interest on deposits | [00:29] |
pigeons | 7% a week | [00:29] |
kakobrekla | like 7% a week. | [00:29] |
pigeons | ;) | [00:29] |
kakobrekla | first. | [00:29] |
BitHub | you mean like divs? | [00:29] |
jcpham | yeah exactly like 7% a week | [00:29] |
BitHub | what a mind blowing concept | [00:29] |
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jcpham | it will be a revolutionary concept to the internet at large | [00:30] |
pigeons | i thought 7% a week must be a scam, BUT YCOMBINATOR! | [00:30] |
jurov | heh, mtgoxlive loaded for me first time today | [00:30] |
jcpham | exactly | [00:30] |
jcpham | buy ycombinator | [00:30] |
jcpham | *but | [00:30] |
jcpham | not buy | [00:30] |
pigeons | why ask why? | [00:31] |
jurov | deflationary currency. with 7% weekly interest. austrian economists, take that. | [00:31] |
jurov | better than perpetuum mobile | [00:31] |
pigeons | well we are still at 25 btc/block inflation | [00:31] |
jcpham | [00:31] | |
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jcpham | newbs in -otc talking about coinbase out of money | [00:32] |
pigeons | how can they be out of money? YCOMBINATOR | [00:32] |
jcpham | because bitcoin. | [00:32] |
jurov | anyone named the source? | [00:32] |
mircea_popescu | try mpex.co nao | [00:33] |
jcpham | nope | [00:33] |
Pucilowski | what happened to mpex.co? | [00:33] |
pigeons | OMG surely there are no alternative sites using twitter bootstrap that will buy bitcoins for us off an exchange for an extra fee | [00:33] |
doctor_pullfingr | I'm the source. not really a newb - in since 6.43 | [00:33] |
jcpham | my bad | [00:33] |
doctor_pullfingr | just changed my name lots of times | [00:34] |
jcpham | i'm totally a noob though | [00:34] |
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jurov | btw, didn't anyone try to compare coinlab sales with pirate's loot? whether the amount isn't approximately similar, perchance | [00:34] |
pigeons | why'd you wait till june, japan had gained a lot by then | [00:34] |
Bugpowder | lol | [00:34] |
Bugpowder | very patriotic | [00:34] |
iz | jurov: how much did pirate actually make off with? i think it's unknown, b/c everyone won't fess up about how much they got paid back in interest | [00:34] |
pigeons | it is unknown | [00:35] |
mircea_popescu | hey, people wanna show off their muscle, let them show it off to people who care. | [00:35] |
pigeons | i doubt he had much left | [00:35] |
iz | pigeons: same | [00:35] |
Bugpowder | is that going to redirect the ddos to wh? | [00:35] |
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Bugpowder | no right? | [00:35] |
mircea_popescu | i imagine yes. | [00:35] |
jurov | mpex.co -> http://www.whitehouse.gov LMAO | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | i figure i got a 1% shot of making us national news. | [00:36] |
Bugpowder | heh | [00:36] |
Bugpowder | its a very clever idea | [00:36] |
mod6 | lol, that actually worked. | [00:36] |
mod6 | WE GET SIGNAL | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 what ?! | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | don't tell me it's down | [00:37] |
mod6 | redirect from mpex.co to whitehouse.gov | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | a a | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | yeah | [00:37] |
mod6 | i luld | [00:37] |
mod6 | and needed to subsequently quote zero-wing | [00:37] |
jcpham | that's terrible mircea_popescu | [00:37] |
jurov | everyone, now try to submit post requests to whitehouse | [00:38] |
jurov | with gpg encrypted mpex stuff | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | lol it has no hole | [00:38] |
Bugpowder | not working | [00:39] |
doctor_pullfingr | mircea_popescu - I got STAT earlier today if you care. | [00:39] |
Bugpowder | mpex.co down | [00:39] |
pigeons | romainian bitterrorist pornagrapher points site at whitehouse to direct shadowy hackers to take down usa's "critical infrastructure" | [00:39] |
Bugpowder | whitehouse.gov not down | [00:39] |
dub | inb4 black helicopters | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | lol i just got an actual proper page | [00:39] |
mod6 | inb4 drone strike | [00:39] |
Bugpowder | its back! | [00:40] |
mircea_popescu | 30day Total Volume 133`707.57454204 BTC | [00:40] |
mircea_popescu | this look stale to anyone ? | [00:40] |
BitHub | l33t | [00:40] |
mircea_popescu | im guffawing over here | [00:40] |
jurov | pointing pympex to whitehouse.gov got HTTP Error 403: Forbidden | [00:41] |
jurov | completely appropriate | [00:41] |
mircea_popescu | interesting | [00:41] |
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dub | 250k btc I think was the popular rumour | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | went as high as 500k | [00:42] |
jurov | http://mpex.coinbr.com/ back online | [00:43] |
BitHub | So Henry Paulson is the new C.E.O of coinlab? | [00:43] |
mod6 | jurov: nice | [00:43] |
mircea_popescu | well that worked. | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | leson learned : when someone throws a quarter tb of crap at you | [00:44] |
jcpham | His name was Robert Paulsen | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | point to something white and get out of the way | [00:44] |
doctor_pullfingr | confirmed mpex.coinbr.com | [00:44] |
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mircea_popescu | he's thinking of robert's sister, henry. | [00:45] |
BitHub | ya | [00:45] |
Bugpowder | This bothers me " Whether you are a savvy investor, Bitcoin merchant, or crypto-hobbiest, trading Bitcoin in the US and Canada is about to get faster, easier, and even more secure." | [00:46] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | "also, no coins" | [00:46] |
Bugpowder | You have a misspelling in the first sentence of your splash page | [00:46] |
mod6 | haha | [00:46] |
mod6 | i shouldnt laugh at that, i misspell tons of words :/ | [00:47] |
Bugpowder | Current Price 541m ago Mt. Gox sockets are down. Trade data will not update until they come back online, and depth data will only update once every 15 minutes. Sorry! | [00:47] |
doctor_pullfingr | from mpex.co front page "The time has come to fill important judicial vacancies" | [00:47] |
Bugpowder | weird that all the other websites still work | [00:47] |
BitHub | "Thanks to our partnerships with SEC, Taxoffice and the Whitehouse, we can now provide these services" | [00:47] |
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mircea_popescu | wait | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | mtgox got flumoxxed too ? | [00:48] |
pigeons | mircea_popescu is jealous | [00:48] |
dub | ;;goxlag | [00:48] |
gribble | 0 seconds | [00:48] |
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mircea_popescu | lmao ok ok | [00:48] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [00:48] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.90000, Best ask: 46.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 45.90000, 24 hour volume: 119925.05033138, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.19828 | [00:48] |
Bugpowder | coinlab got flummoxed | [00:48] |
jcpham | Ashton Kutcher’s A-Grade Investments joined with Ben Davenport and Trace Mayer in another round of seed founding for BitPay. | [00:48] |
BitHub | thank christ for ashton kutcher | [00:48] |
dub | ok, so with bitcoin roken, where is the bottom | [00:49] |
dub | broken* | [00:49] |
mod6 | lol BitHub | [00:49] |
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BitHub | Charlie Sheen bitcoin company will be better | [00:49] |
iz | BitHub: you'll take that back once you find out he's just punking the btc community for a new MTV series | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | mtv still exists ?! | [00:50] |
BitHub | ahh so that's who's been trolling the price lately | [00:50] |
jcpham | ^ iz may have a point | [00:50] |
jcpham | if ashton gets to play satoshi ina bitcoin movie i'll be upset | [00:50] |
BitHub | lulz jcpham | [00:50] |
BitHub | holy shit | [00:50] |
mod6 | Dude, where's my bitcoins? | [00:51] |
dub | its gotta be ryan gosling | [00:51] |
pigeons | mircea_popescu has a doctor evil suit | [00:51] |
kakobrekla | tru dat. | [00:52] |
pigeons | piefucker played a good satoshi | [00:52] |
mod6 | dub: then all girls will want to go and see it | [00:52] |
BitHub | would you guys ever fund a movie with bitcoins? | [00:52] |
dub | sounds like an IPO | [00:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 120 @ 0.22222082 = 26.6665 BTC [+] | [00:52] |
pigeons | Richard Simmons as usagi | [00:52] |
mod6 | LOL | [00:53] |
doctor_pullfingr | BitHub - girlsgonebitcoin does that all the time | [00:53] |
BitHub | i think you should fund my movie | [00:53] |
dub | haha | [00:53] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub i acrtually had some outfit in chicago to do me a short | [00:53] |
mircea_popescu | sadly they flaked out. | [00:53] |
jcpham | i asked Ashton who is going to play Satoshi | [00:53] |
mircea_popescu | was last year. | [00:53] |
jcpham | we'll see if he responds | [00:53] |
BitHub | a short for what mircea? | [00:53] |
mircea_popescu | a short film. | [00:53] |
jcpham | https://plus.google.com/115257212064017961354/posts/Pmd1sPVby5A | [00:54] |
BitHub | yes | [00:54] |
BitHub | with you acting in it? | [00:54] |
mircea_popescu | nah. | [00:54] |
mircea_popescu | you know the "are you the brain specialist" monthy python sketch ? | [00:54] |
mod6 | nice jcpham | [00:54] |
BitHub | probably | [00:54] |
mircea_popescu | so it was going to be a remake of that, except with the | [00:54] |
mircea_popescu | Are you the Bitcoin Financialist | [00:54] |
BitHub | i was suppose to make a short film this year to take to Robert Rodriguez and troublemaker studios for their new television network EL REY | [00:55] |
mircea_popescu | would have been hysterical | [00:55] |
kakobrekla | hey mircea you gonna have to switch the slogan nao https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1592841#msg1592841 | [00:55] |
BitHub | but doing this crap instead | [00:55] |
mircea_popescu | was just about the time the various idiots were popping post-pirate | [00:55] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla the only bitcoin service hacked by the white house ? | [00:55] |
kakobrekla | smth like dat | [00:55] |
pigeons | i dont know anything about ianbakeweall, but kinda weird to just say, "i suspect this guy is involved in the ddos" | [00:56] |
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BitHub | hah mircea i'm pretty intrested in making some bitcoin commercials | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1592861#msg1592861 | [00:57] |
BitHub | i had this one idea of like a Mr. Satoshi montage | [00:57] |
mod6 | get the sham-wow guy | [00:57] |
pigeons | why do they say that guy would ddos mpex? | [00:57] |
BitHub | bakewell mining | [00:59] |
BitHub | he's been a lil off lately | [00:59] |
BitHub | sold my shares | [00:59] |
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kakobrekla | he has a sock on his head | [01:00] |
BitHub | got some jah ones instead better divs | [01:00] |
Bugpowder | he called the S.DICE short pretty well | [01:00] |
kakobrekla | what more do you need to know? | [01:00] |
Bugpowder | great timing | [01:00] |
Bugpowder | if he really did sell at .0062 | [01:00] |
Bugpowder | instead of borrow at .0062 and not sell it in time | [01:01] |
pigeons | well he still has to buy them back | [01:01] |
Bugpowder | I didn't see a sale go off at .0062 of that size | [01:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 0.65 = 20.8 BTC [-] | [01:01] |
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Namworld | erhm... MPEx redirects to the whitehouse.gov website? lol... | [01:01] |
kakobrekla | hm so acsic miner aint that hot all of a sudden? | [01:01] |
BitHub | JAH shares atm are much better value to buy than AISCMINER and BAKEWELL | [01:01] |
kakobrekla | asicminer-pt | [01:01] |
pigeons | oh so the ddos comment was so that people couldnt buy up s.dice | [01:02] |
BitHub | i dont get why you would buy asicminer shares where jah's are much better value and get roughly the same pay out div for alot cheaper | [01:02] |
Bugpowder | does jah have asics? | [01:02] |
pigeons | but asic right in the name! | [01:02] |
BitHub | yep | [01:02] |
BitHub | that's why may as well get jah | [01:03] |
pigeons | he actually has avalons in his hands? | [01:03] |
Namworld | BitHub: JAH has nowhere near the same potential tho... | [01:03] |
BitHub | no avalons in his hands but his asicminer divs are kicking in | [01:03] |
Namworld | Would go down while ASICMINER will go up in mined coins. | [01:03] |
pigeons | so he has no asics | [01:03] |
Bugpowder | dude | [01:04] |
BitHub | hes got 2 on preorder | [01:04] |
Bugpowder | DUDE | [01:04] |
pigeons | 2 on preorder = 0 asics | [01:04] |
Bugpowder | PREORDER IS WORTHLESS | [01:04] |
Bugpowder | PREORDER IS FUCKED | [01:04] |
BitHub | wait | [01:04] |
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Bugpowder | 80% chance of worthless | [01:05] |
BitHub | i'm getting 0.00072538btc a share atm | [01:05] |
dub | remember they guy runnning JAH is retarded | [01:05] |
BitHub | daily | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla lol @forum | [01:05] |
dub | though that hasn't hurt dice | [01:05] |
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Namworld | Can I short JAH? | [01:05] |
pigeons | "coming soon" | [01:05] |
dub | short btc | [01:06] |
dub | were seeign $2 this week | [01:06] |
Namworld | Currently I'd be shorting almost anything. | [01:06] |
BitHub | it was like .06 a few weeks ago hey | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld just because of btc/usd ? | [01:06] |
BitHub | now its hmmm 2.8? | [01:07] |
Namworld | No... because those small mining ops don't look good. | [01:07] |
BitHub | i mean 0.28 | [01:07] |
Namworld | plus USD/BTC price just further promotes shorting | [01:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00072389 = 13.9349 BTC [+] | [01:07] |
BitHub | how much is asicminer paying per share atm? | [01:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9076 @ 0.00073711 = 6.69 BTC [+] | [01:07] |
BitHub | div wise | [01:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5247 @ 0.00074548 = 3.9115 BTC [+] | [01:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41427 @ 0.00074999 = 31.0698 BTC [+] | [01:08] |
Namworld | How much Terahash is ASICMINER at now? | [01:08] |
mircea_popescu | o hey. "mpoe surges on news of failed ddos" | [01:08] |
BitHub | 6 or something? | [01:08] |
dub | mircea_popescu: new of USG backing | [01:08] |
dub | news* | [01:09] |
mircea_popescu | o that too ya | [01:09] |
mircea_popescu | "mpex the first bitcoin business to implement quantitative easing" | [01:09] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.262 = 0.524 BTC [-] | [01:10] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2576 = 1.288 BTC [-] | [01:10] |
Namworld | So, anyway | [01:10] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.255 BTC [-] | [01:10] |
mod6 | ;;ticker | [01:11] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01002, Best ask: 45.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 45.05000, 24 hour volume: 120957.15085783, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.23178 | [01:11] |
mircea_popescu | in case anyone doesn't know what http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-05/merkel-looks-east-for-austerity-allies-in-talks-with-hollande.html is all about : | [01:11] |
mircea_popescu | holland was forever trying to block romania's access to schengen zone | [01:11] |
mircea_popescu | germany joined them recently | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | bucharest shocked them by going fu, we don't want in anymore. | [01:12] |
Namworld | Who has mining stocks to lend me? As always I have lots of backings available and good borrowing habits. | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | merkel is now backpedalling. | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | bucharest 1 : berlin 0. | [01:12] |
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mod6 | mircea_popescu: probably a really good call. | [01:13] |
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mod6 | the eurozone will be the zone of misery once this thing starts to unwravel faster than it already is. | [01:14] |
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mod6 | and no one in their right mind would want to lose soverignty to some EU technocrat | [01:15] |
mod6 | btc ftw | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | yeah | [01:15] |
BitHub | Namworld what sort of stocks? | [01:15] |
BitHub | which mining stocks | [01:16] |
Namworld | Pretty much anything that is not ASICMINER | [01:16] |
BitHub | i got some jah | [01:16] |
BitHub | i had some bakewell but got rid of them and got some jah | [01:16] |
Namworld | Any signigicant amount? | [01:17] |
kakobrekla | first you got baked well now you have rasta jah. in style. | [01:17] |
BitHub | nice kako | [01:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 750 @ 0.28155951 = 211.1696 BTC [-] | [01:17] |
BitHub | maybe about 20 to play with nam? | [01:17] |
BitHub | rest i'm holding | [01:18] |
Namworld | eh, not enough for me. | [01:18] |
Namworld | How many do you have total and how long were you planning to hold them? | [01:18] |
jurov | finally call to miners to increase blocksize: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149668.0 | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | lol kakobrekla http://pastebin.com/XU3Wf9gu | [01:19] |
kakobrekla | what | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu | jurov hearn is a muppet. | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla i enjoyed the reply. | [01:19] |
kakobrekla | :p | [01:19] |
Namworld | I'll just PM you | [01:20] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33317 = 1.3327 BTC [-] | [01:22] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | o wait, puts trading ? | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | that's new. | [01:23] |
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BitHub | philly time | [01:23] |
BitHub | think peeps realizing, overpricing on asicminer | [01:24] |
BitHub | at teh moment | [01:24] |
dub | 94btc tx fee wat | [01:24] |
dub | http://blockchain.info/tx/13dffdaef097881acfe9bdb5e6338192242d80161ffec264ee61cf23bc9a1164 | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, everyone got their mpex/wh screencaps etc ? | [01:25] |
BitHub | [01:26] | |
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BitHub | made me lulz | [01:26] |
mod6 | HEH | [01:26] |
mod6 | pretty good depth on the ask side now... (looking at bitcoincharts.com) | [01:26] |
kakobrekla | yes juding by the traffic, noone was using them. duh! | [01:26] |
kakobrekla | judging | [01:26] |
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BitHub | hahha peeps are taking this seriously | [01:27] |
kakobrekla | was afraid of that. | [01:27] |
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mircea_popescu | dub badly composed tx ? (insufficient outputs) | [01:27] |
BitHub | they think mircea has becomea CIA snitch | [01:27] |
kakobrekla | ah lone != line | [01:27] |
kakobrekla | my bad | [01:27] |
BitHub | lul! | [01:27] |
BitHub | heh this is probably a huge PR for mp | [01:28] |
BitHub | time to contact cnn news | [01:28] |
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Bugpowder_ | I called da top | [01:28] |
dub | mircea_popescu: nobody knows | [01:28] |
BitHub | troll it a lil further | [01:28] |
dub | if you want to uber troll stick up an ICE takedown | [01:29] |
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mircea_popescu | dub sadly i was going to do that april 1st | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | but now it's lost all its cache ;/ | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | cachet* | [01:30] |
doctor_pullfingr | Bugpowder if that's you, you called the top every 10 minutes for two months straight | [01:30] |
Bowjob | mpex.co is .. wtf | [01:30] |
Bowjob | did usg just sieze it? | [01:30] |
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Bugpowder_ | dude | [01:30] |
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BitHub | yeah its been seized | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [01:31] |
dub | yeah | [01:31] |
BitHub | run!!! | [01:31] |
Bugpowder_ | you should redirect to an FBI 'seized domain' page | [01:31] |
dub | mpex and bitcion protocol hacked at the same time | [01:31] |
mod6 | well, mpex.co still goes to wh.gov so *shrug* | [01:31] |
doctor_pullfingr | did you have shares there? | [01:31] |
Bugpowder_ | if you really want to troll | [01:31] |
dub | probably time to panic | [01:31] |
BitHub | yeah do it mircea | [01:31] |
ineededausername | huh | [01:31] |
Bowjob | lol | [01:31] |
BitHub | huge PR | [01:31] |
Bugpowder_ | could this be causing the fall in BTC prices? | [01:31] |
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BitHub | people will be like WTF MPEX? | [01:31] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [01:31] |
Bugpowder_ | AskReddit | [01:31] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.30000, Best ask: 44.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 44.40000, 24 hour volume: 121935.01959325, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.24020 | [01:31] |
Bowjob | holy shit | [01:31] |
dub | Bugpowder_: probably the block size issue | [01:31] |
Bowjob | we are crashing | [01:31] |
BitHub | making a reddit post now | [01:31] |
dub | Bugpowder_: /sprobably/hopefully | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | doctor_pullfingr flush your dns | [01:31] |
ineededausername | oh no, we have lost a few hours of gains | [01:32] |
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Bowjob | single digits | [01:32] |
Bugpowder_ | I still need to take a pic of the Kruggerand vs 25BTC Casascius coin | [01:32] |
dub | $2 | [01:32] |
Bugpowder_ | would have been better at $49 | [01:32] |
Bugpowder_ | than at 44 and falling | [01:32] |
ineededausername | what was the news? | [01:32] |
dub | bitcoin is broken | [01:32] |
BitHub | tweeting fox news now mircea | [01:32] |
Bugpowder_ | I sold | [01:32] |
doctor_pullfingr | mircea - why? are you pointing to girlsgonebitcoin now? | [01:32] |
ineededausername | is something happening aside from the block size problem | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [01:32] |
BitHub | tweeting all the news networks | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | ineededausername not rly. | [01:33] |
Bugpowder_ | ineededausername: I think its the $12 price rise in 36hours | [01:33] |
ineededausername | oh lol | [01:33] |
Bugpowder_ | that is NOT sustainable | [01:33] |
Bugpowder_ | Sequester shut down MPEX | [01:33] |
Bowjob | i feel bad now | [01:33] |
ineededausername | yeah I'd be happy about a crash to $25 | [01:33] |
dub | I expect a lot of people watching their transactiosn not going through | [01:33] |
ineededausername | because that would make me feel confident about the price again | [01:33] |
dub | seeing the devs begging miners to fix it | [01:34] |
BitHub | i don't feel confident in mpex its been seized | [01:34] |
Bowjob | http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01980/markets_1980043c.jpg | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | i personally blame nefario | [01:34] |
dub | I heard kim dotcom is dumping | [01:34] |
BitHub | jesus you dont want to be near that guy when he dumps | [01:35] |
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doctor_pullfingr | Kutcher is still in though right? | [01:35] |
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Bowjob | 49.09, the high of 2013 | [01:35] |
Bowjob | see ya folks | [01:35] |
dub | oh yeah theres a bitcoin movie called dude where my coins announced too | [01:35] |
Namworld | ugh... fucking whitehouse.gov, that ain't interesting | [01:36] |
mod6 | (15:34) < dub> I heard kim dotcom is dumping << and if you believe btctalk, he's changing his name to kim bitcoin | [01:36] |
ineededausername | lol | [01:36] |
BitHub | haha | [01:36] |
BitHub | he should | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | why not to bit kimdoing | [01:36] |
mod6 | yeah, Dude, where's my Bitcoins? | [01:36] |
BitHub | kim bit | [01:36] |
Bugpowder_ | Sold at 48.98 | [01:37] |
mircea_popescu | bit baitboom | [01:37] |
Bugpowder_ | and 48.5 | [01:37] |
BitHub | kimdotcomcoin | [01:37] |
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Bugpowder_ | and 48.0, 47.98, 46.5 46, 40.5, 40, 35.0 etc | [01:37] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [01:37] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.93469, Best ask: 43.95602, Bid-ask spread: 0.02133, Last trade: 43.93469, 24 hour volume: 122933.59660769, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.23253 | [01:37] |
Bowjob | Tsk | [01:38] |
deadweasel | time to buy | [01:38] |
deadweasel | i think 40 is floor maybe? unless more of the same tomorrow. | [01:38] |
Bugpowder_ | we have erased half of today's gains | [01:38] |
deadweasel | oh yes | [01:38] |
Bowjob | this is actually a flash crash | [01:38] |
Bugpowder_ | $36 | [01:38] |
deadweasel | but it was a 10 dollar day | [01:38] |
Bowjob | 50 later | [01:38] |
deadweasel | or more | [01:38] |
Bugpowder_ | The weekend is coming | [01:38] |
deadweasel | you think 36 is settling? | [01:38] |
Bugpowder_ | nah, I think we go back up | [01:39] |
dub | this is awesome | [01:39] |
Bugpowder_ | maybe we will touch 36 | [01:39] |
BitHub | buy now | [01:39] |
deadweasel | i know. I think we do to, if only after the weekend and the media gets through | [01:39] |
BitHub | see a big surge in a hour | [01:39] |
Bugpowder_ | I just wanted to take some profits | [01:39] |
deadweasel | people will be catching on again | [01:39] |
Bugpowder_ | been holding since $2.65 | [01:39] |
deadweasel | smart man | [01:39] |
Bowjob | whats going on with mpex | [01:39] |
Bowjob | really | [01:39] |
Bowjob | lol | [01:39] |
Bowjob | wtf | [01:39] |
deadweasel | can always buy in again at 36 | [01:39] |
Bugpowder_ | I have an order | [01:39] |
deadweasel | if it goes there | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob http://mpex.coinbr.com/ | [01:39] |
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error4733 | obama TFW | [01:39] |
deadweasel | i bet you do! | [01:39] |
Bugpowder_ | but I need to figure out this wash sale shit with long term vs. short term cap gains | [01:40] |
Bowjob | lol | [01:40] |
Bowjob | wow | [01:40] |
Bowjob | xD | [01:40] |
BitHub | kimdotcom just dumped | [01:40] |
Bugpowder_ | Don't want to be taxed at 39.6% | [01:40] |
BitHub | and it was nasty | [01:40] |
Bugpowder_ | ;;ticker | [01:40] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.86000, Best ask: 43.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 42.86000, 24 hour volume: 123951.17643418, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.21823 | [01:40] |
Namworld | 10k to go back to 43 | [01:41] |
Namworld | 49* | [01:41] |
Namworld | meh | [01:41] |
Namworld | not really a huge dump | [01:41] |
dub | just wait | [01:41] |
Namworld | So where's my MPEx now? | [01:41] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ actually tax thing is a major disincentive to selling for many ppl. | [01:41] |
Bugpowder_ | shouldn't S.DICE be rallying right about now??? | [01:41] |
Bugpowder_ | mircea_popescu: no shit! | [01:42] |
Bugpowder_ | How tha fuc am I gonna get my Tesla | [01:42] |
Bugpowder_ | if I'm taxed at income | [01:42] |
Namworld | S.DICE can't rally if MPEx is unavailable | [01:42] |
Bugpowder_ | + state | [01:42] |
Bugpowder_ | Now my mtgox account is getting moved to US | [01:43] |
Bugpowder_ | FATCA is in effect | [01:43] |
Bugpowder_ | FBAR is in effect | [01:43] |
Bugpowder_ | can't hide those transactions, gotta report it. | [01:43] |
Bugpowder_ | or risk the wrath of IRS | [01:43] |
mircea_popescu | sucks to be you. | [01:43] |
Bugpowder_ | I cry myself to sleep | [01:43] |
deadweasel | make a plan, determine where/what denomination/ how to store your wealth. Find property, do the research to dtermine best course of action. | [01:43] |
BitHub | that's terrible Bug | [01:44] |
mod6 | and S.DICE isn't unavailble, the mpex.coinbr.com is processing orders | [01:44] |
Bowjob | just do irl transactions, no record | [01:44] |
BitHub | any americans want acces to a mtgox account? | [01:44] |
mod6 | well, at least my stat went through anyway | [01:44] |
Namworld | I can't connect to mpex.coinbr.com | [01:44] |
Bugpowder_ | I am selling below gox on localbitcoins | [01:44] |
Bugpowder_ | in a major metro area | [01:44] |
Bugpowder_ | well | [01:44] |
Bugpowder_ | not below gox right now :) | [01:44] |
BitHub | where? | [01:44] |
Bugpowder_ | DC | [01:44] |
mod6 | works fine for me Namworld, just tried it again | [01:44] |
BitHub | mmk | [01:44] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [01:44] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.43692, Best ask: 42.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.46308, Last trade: 42.43692, 24 hour volume: 124522.10296094, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.20818 | [01:44] |
mircea_popescu | o le wow. | [01:45] |
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BitHub | Bugpowder i have a mtgox account | [01:45] |
Bugpowder_ | I have one too | [01:45] |
BitHub | want to go through me? | [01:45] |
Bugpowder_ | no | [01:45] |
Bowjob | http://coinlab.com/ | [01:45] |
BitHub | i'm not us resident | [01:45] |
Bowjob | look at the sell off | [01:45] |
Bugpowder_ | I don't want to get fucked | [01:45] |
Bugpowder_ | not worth the risk | [01:45] |
Namworld | I don't have tools to trade on it I mean. I could do it manually tho | [01:45] |
mod6 | ahh. | [01:45] |
BitHub | you're going to get fucked by coinlab anyway | [01:46] |
Bugpowder_ | I told all my friends to sell this morning too. | [01:46] |
Bugpowder_ | some did | [01:46] |
BitHub | while still wearing your pants | [01:46] |
BitHub | at least i remove your pants first | [01:46] |
Bugpowder_ | it will prob bounce though | [01:46] |
mod6 | i think we're gonna retrace down to say $35, and the rally will continue | [01:46] |
Bugpowder_ | yeah | [01:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85433966 = 854.3397 BTC [-] | [01:46] |
dub | I dunno | [01:46] |
Bugpowder_ | UH OH | [01:46] |
mircea_popescu | oho | [01:46] |
mircea_popescu | boys and girls... this looks like the end. | [01:47] |
dub | when news hits that the network is broken.. | [01:47] |
dub | its gonna be a fire sale | [01:47] |
Bowjob | network is broken? | [01:47] |
mod6 | im still long term bullish. if it goes down low, i'll just BTFD :D | [01:47] |
mod6 | and I don't think the network is "broken" its just piling up with tx's | [01:48] |
dub | Bowjob: block size limit hit, transactiosn are piling up | [01:48] |
mod6 | so one guy was asking to increase the block size | [01:48] |
Bowjob | i vote ban S.Dice for the meantime | [01:48] |
Bugpowder_ | That put short was profitable though right? | [01:48] |
Bowjob | then fix the blocksize | [01:48] |
Bowjob | then let dice have its fill | [01:48] |
Bowjob | or at least make the bets 1 BTC min | [01:48] |
Bowjob | stop the dust | [01:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27233775 = 272.3378 BTC [-] | [01:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31662031 = 316.6203 BTC [+] | [01:48] |
Bugpowder_ | how much of dice profits are from bets below .1? | [01:48] |
Bowjob | not a lot | [01:49] |
dub | I think a healthy return to $2 first | [01:49] |
dub | is what we need | [01:49] |
Bowjob | its below 4 BTC from doogs | [01:49] |
Bowjob | chart | [01:49] |
dub | and when I say we I mean I | [01:49] |
Bugpowder_ | shake out the weak hands | [01:49] |
Bugpowder_ | lol | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ the put short was sold 1.3-1.1 iirc | [01:49] |
BitHub | s.dice should pay higher fees | [01:49] |
Bugpowder_ | yeah | [01:49] |
BitHub | spamming cents | [01:49] |
dub | s.deuce is paying higher fees as of today | [01:49] |
BitHub | s.douche | [01:49] |
dub | its part of the problem | [01:50] |
BitHub | s stands for spam | [01:50] |
dub | instead of only their txn stalling errybodys are | [01:50] |
mircea_popescu | nobody can afford to outpay s.dice | [01:50] |
doctor_pullfingr | maybe s.dice could charge a rpx for bets | [01:50] |
mircea_popescu | consequently, all the libertards will get pushed out of bitcoin | [01:50] |
Bugpowder_ | 42.00 | [01:50] |
mircea_popescu | i'm rejoicing. | [01:50] |
BitHub | someone should hax them for a week | [01:50] |
doctor_pullfingr | mircea why rejoicing? | [01:51] |
BitHub | i'm sick of sitting at cafes for 4 hours waiting for a transaction to confirm | [01:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.3428 = 0.6856 BTC [-] | [01:51] |
Bowjob | this is such a bear day | [01:51] |
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Bowjob | i cant bear to watch this bullshit | [01:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27169201 = 271.692 BTC [-] | [01:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3160137 = 316.0137 BTC [-] | [01:51] |
mircea_popescu | definitely covering | [01:51] |
Bugpowder_ | yup | [01:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5300001 BTC [-] | [01:52] |
Bugpowder_ | 41.93 | [01:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85593586 = 855.9359 BTC [+] | [01:52] |
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Bugpowder_ | The dude finally made a profit | [01:52] |
mircea_popescu | nice race too, i wonder how much they manage to squeeze through | [01:52] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ he made pretty good loot, .3-4 over what, 15k ? | [01:52] |
Bugpowder_ | yeah | [01:52] |
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BitHub | mircea | [01:52] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.344 = 5.16 BTC [+] | [01:52] |
Bugpowder_ | is 24hprc even dropping yet? | [01:52] |
BitHub | are u seeing this? | [01:53] |
mircea_popescu | actuallly i think the calls are slightly ahead too | [01:53] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub "this" | [01:53] |
BitHub | otc room lulz | [01:53] |
mircea_popescu | im not in -otc | [01:53] |
BitHub | oh man its so lulz | [01:53] |
Bowjob | dump dump dump USD | [01:53] |
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BitHub | <+starsoccer> wtf do you mean cia snitch | [01:54] |
Bugpowder_ | so which txns were stalled? All mine went thru? | [01:54] |
mod6 | starsoccer is a scammer | [01:54] |
mod6 | and for some reason, an op | [01:54] |
Bowjob | http://bitbet.us/bet/283/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-hit-50-in-march/ | [01:54] |
BitHub | [01:55] | |
Bowjob | lots of free btc here | [01:55] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 bitcoin-otc "selective evaporation" succeeded. | [01:55] |
mod6 | :] | [01:55] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone wonders why gmaxwell is an idiot, that's it right there. | [01:55] |
BitHub | people are really getting upset in otc mircea | [01:55] |
BitHub | they think you're really gone haha | [01:55] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [01:55] |
mircea_popescu | that they don't know about this chan i can see | [01:56] |
BitHub | i should paste bin it for you | [01:56] |
mircea_popescu | but they don't know twitter, either ? anything ? | [01:56] |
mircea_popescu | so go ahead. | [01:56] |
BitHub | i've never used it | [01:56] |
BitHub | its funny as hell tho, main topic of discussion atm | [01:56] |
Bowjob | someone is clearly dumping | [01:56] |
mod6 | no dandan fled, they were just spreading disinformation | [01:56] |
mod6 | i set 'em straight | [01:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5300001 BTC [-] | [01:57] |
BitHub | [01:57] | |
dub | I tried :( [18:55] |
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Bugpowder_ | Oooohhh yeah | [01:57] |
Bugpowder_ | 41.12 | [01:57] |
mircea_popescu | o boy. | [01:57] |
BitHub | lul dub | [01:57] |
BitHub | i saw some of those | [01:57] |
Namworld | 5k BTC purchase and we'd be back to 48... thin line... | [01:57] |
Namworld | I'm not sure we're done rising yet. | [01:57] |
mod6 | (15:53) <+mod6> (15:52) < danieldaniel> MPEX is gone << DDOS brought down the main site, you can get to it here: mpex.coinbr.com | [01:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [+] | [01:58] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.47 = 3.76 BTC [+] | [01:58] |
BitHub | [01:58] | |
BitHub | lul! | [01:58] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [01:58] |
gribble | 471.638897 seconds | [01:58] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [01:58] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.11111, Best ask: 41.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38889, Last trade: 42.00000, 24 hour volume: 126252.65323883, 24 hour low: 40.14460, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.18147 | [01:58] |
mircea_popescu | lol jesus it's gonna be a day soon | [01:58] |
Bowjob | :( | [01:58] |
Bowjob | just go to coinlab | [01:58] |
Bowjob | watch the dump | [01:59] |
Bugpowder_ | http://bitcoinity.org/markets?theme=dark | [01:59] |
Bugpowder_ | is doing well | [01:59] |
blu3gr1ffon | i like to watch it go up. | [01:59] |
BitHub | "sell out to coinlab you know you want to" | [01:59] |
dub | oh shi bitcoinity came back? | [01:59] |
Bowjob | lol | [01:59] |
Bugpowder_ | ya | [01:59] |
BitHub | they should have that on their site | [02:00] |
Bowjob | this is actually called a bear trap | [02:00] |
blu3gr1ffon | how so? | [02:00] |
Namworld | 7 minute lag | [02:00] |
Bugpowder_ | LOL | [02:00] |
blu3gr1ffon | ;;goxlag | [02:00] |
gribble | 505.11974 seconds | [02:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 420 @ 0.0046 = 1.932 BTC [-] | [02:00] |
Bowjob | 5k buy then 48 | [02:00] |
blu3gr1ffon | holy crap | [02:00] |
Bugpowder_ | fastcash4bitcoins suddenly has funds available to buy again | [02:00] |
Bowjob | lol | [02:00] |
Bugpowder_ | I KNEW they just shut down buying into the blow off top | [02:00] |
BitHub | heh all of a sudden hey bug | [02:00] |
Bugpowder_ | they had funds all along :) | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ prolly ppl sold to them tho | [02:01] |
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Bugpowder_ | mircea_popescu: | [02:01] |
Bugpowder_ | Bot from them | [02:01] |
Bugpowder_ | and only via bitcoinsdirect | [02:01] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [02:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27153039 = 271.5304 BTC [-] | [02:01] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.12100, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.77900, Last trade: 41.02010, 24 hour volume: 126502.71591685, 24 hour low: 40.30100, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.17366 | [02:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31586188 = 315.8619 BTC [-] | [02:01] |
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Bugpowder_ | which is an email based service, so I doubt it. | [02:01] |
thestringpuller | hahahahahahahahahabaha | [02:01] |
Bowjob | we just hit under 41 | [02:01] |
Bowjob | its a market manipulator | [02:01] |
thestringpuller | the algorithm worked!!!!! | [02:01] |
Bugpowder_ | Annoyed that I didn't sell more | [02:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [+] | [02:02] |
Bowjob | http://coinlab.com/ | [02:02] |
Bowjob | watch this | [02:02] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ i didn't sell any. | [02:02] |
Bugpowder_ | didn't want trigger fatca | [02:02] |
mod6 | check out the depth now though: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html | [02:02] |
Bowjob | fuck that fuckta | [02:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85630842 = 856.3084 BTC [+] | [02:02] |
Bowjob | who cares | [02:02] |
Bowjob | lol | [02:02] |
mod6 | i think we're going right backup | [02:02] |
Bowjob | we just hot $40 | [02:02] |
Bowjob | https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ | [02:03] |
Bowjob | Canadian bitcoins.. buy $55.. sell $42 | [02:03] |
Bowjob | ol | [02:03] |
blu3gr1ffon | forty, wow. | [02:03] |
Bowjob | $39 | [02:03] |
jurov | 10 minute lag... and bitcoincharts not with out either | [02:03] |
thestringpuller | ;;market sell 10000 | [02:03] |
Bugpowder_ | hmm... wonder if my mtgox bids actually got cancells | [02:03] |
Bugpowder_ | or not | [02:04] |
thestringpuller | ;;market sell 100000 | [02:04] |
gribble | A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 392180.3720 USD and would take the last price down to 37.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 39.2180 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds | [02:04] |
gribble | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2549350.7477 USD and would take the last price down to 14.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 25.4935 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds | [02:04] |
Bugpowder_ | 39.5 | [02:04] |
thestringpuller | ick thank you gribble | [02:04] |
jurov | ooooh quite a difference | [02:04] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m ^OIX | [02:04] |
thestringpuller | 42 is the real price | [02:05] |
assbot | I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly. | [02:05] |
thestringpuller | assbot.... | [02:05] |
dub | ;;obip 1000 | [02:05] |
gribble | The weighted average price of BTC, 1000.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 41.38470 USD. | Data vintage: 86.2046 seconds | [02:05] |
blu3gr1ffon | i'm glad it's happening now. | [02:05] |
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mircea_popescu | "^OIX": "7d": {"avg": "4746815366","min": "3024983876","max": "4950599490","vsh": "no","vsa": "1.89472677534E+12","cnt": ""} | [02:05] |
blu3gr1ffon | it's been too nuts lately. need some stability | [02:06] |
mircea_popescu | ftr. | [02:06] |
thestringpuller | we still at 47 on OIX hmm | [02:06] |
Bowjob | you can still sell bitcoins at 47 dollars each | [02:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 200 @ 0.05329654 = 10.6593 BTC [-] | [02:07] |
doctor_pullfingr | mircea - I thought you were in jail? | [02:07] |
Bowjob | i mean | [02:07] |
Bowjob | 43. | [02:07] |
jurov | pssst, gox is falling | [02:07] |
mircea_popescu | doctor_pullfingr me ? | [02:07] |
jurov | seems the lag grows faster than clock time | [02:07] |
mircea_popescu | jurov cheeze | [02:07] |
jurov | ;;goxlag | [02:07] |
gribble | 814.286864 seconds | [02:07] |
blu3gr1ffon | lol | [02:07] |
Namworld | xD | [02:08] |
kakobrekla | mpex deposits - faster than mtgox trading engine. | [02:08] |
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blu3gr1ffon | 36 does seem right Bugpowder_ | [02:08] |
blu3gr1ffon | then up from there | [02:09] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla ya but mtgox is free* | [02:09] |
thestringpuller | mpex is free too | [02:09] |
kakobrekla | its free to read. | [02:10] |
thestringpuller | if you know the right people | [02:10] |
thestringpuller | :) | [02:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85668542 = 856.6854 BTC [+] | [02:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27136871 = 271.3687 BTC [-] | [02:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31571 = 315.71 BTC [-] | [02:11] |
Bugpowder_ | OOOOooooooo | [02:11] |
nanotube | mircea_popescu: mpex seems inaccessible atm? | [02:11] |
blu3gr1ffon | so is coinbase out of btc? | [02:12] |
Bugpowder_ | here we go | [02:12] |
Bugpowder_ | 28.5 | [02:12] |
Bugpowder_ | 38.5 | [02:12] |
Bugpowder_ | hehehe | [02:12] |
blu3gr1ffon | haha | [02:12] |
mircea_popescu | nanotube main site is being ddosed. use proxies | [02:12] |
mircea_popescu | mpex.coinbr.com etc. | [02:12] |
kakobrekla | >Bitcoin Price Reaches All-Time High after Mt. Gox Announces CoinLab Partnership | [02:12] |
kakobrekla | yeah, i also farted twice before the high. | [02:12] |
Bugpowder_ | So funny, coinlab didn't even have a chance to fuck it up | [02:12] |
nanotube | mircea_popescu: ah, didn't know there were proxies. :) | [02:12] |
Bugpowder_ | I wonder if my bids will get hit? | [02:13] |
mircea_popescu | nanotube https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/309349518632157185 | [02:13] |
Bugpowder_ | This is definitely a bad time for a market order | [02:13] |
jurov | seems for mtgox is easier to split US off than to fix their engine | [02:13] |
Namworld | this trend could revert in an instead like all the previous rises | [02:14] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld true. | [02:14] |
Bugpowder_ | will my bids clear in time to catch the dump? | [02:14] |
Bugpowder_ | Namworld, the last 48 hours were very very simlar to last top | [02:14] |
Bugpowder_ | rise of over $10 in a day | [02:14] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:14] |
Namworld | eh, who knows | [02:15] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.89000, Best ask: 39.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 39.89000, 24 hour volume: 133904.00033926, 24 hour low: 38.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.87318 | [02:15] |
Bowjob | fuck | [02:15] |
Bugpowder_ | broke the 40 like nothing | [02:15] |
Bugpowder_ | the 36 is the real support though | [02:15] |
Bugpowder_ | err 35 | [02:15] |
kakobrekla | 34 | [02:15] |
Bugpowder_ | ya | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | 12 | [02:16] |
Bugpowder_ | 33 | [02:16] |
Bugpowder_ | 13.5 | [02:16] |
kakobrekla | no, 34. | [02:16] |
Bugpowder_ | 34 from the chart, 33 from the bids | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [02:17] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.25000, Best ask: 39.90000, Bid-ask spread: 1.65000, Last trade: 39.90000, 24 hour volume: 134097.13923724, 24 hour low: 38.25000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.85953 | [02:17] |
nanotube | mircea_popescu: ah cool. so i presume your twitter will keep listing the latest proxies? | [02:17] |
mircea_popescu | nanotube if need be, yeah. or here. | [02:17] |
nanotube | mmk | [02:18] |
Bugpowder_ | this is what happens when 100 people hit SELL MARKET at the same time | [02:18] |
Bugpowder_ | some bit now at 40.2 | [02:18] |
Bugpowder_ | bid | [02:18] |
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hctib | hello | [02:20] |
hctib | what's the damage? | [02:20] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:20] |
gribble | Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. | [02:20] |
mircea_popescu | mtgox exploded | [02:20] |
hctib | 40.4 is my best guess at the ticker | [02:20] |
hctib | and mpex? | [02:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23556839 = 235.5684 BTC [-] | [02:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26615673 = 266.1567 BTC [-] | [02:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3108139 = 310.8139 BTC [-] | [02:21] |
mircea_popescu | hctib ppl are covering long positions desperately for the past hour or so | [02:21] |
error4733 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149803.msg1591395#msg1591395 | [02:22] |
error4733 | nice read | [02:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.86980593 = 869.8059 BTC [+] | [02:22] |
jurov | lol slush saw the mpex page and said "alpaca socks eshop was never hacked, too." | [02:22] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:22] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.89000, Best ask: 40.51000, Bid-ask spread: 0.62000, Last trade: 39.89000, 24 hour volume: 137698.19346541, 24 hour low: 38.00100, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.72163 | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | jurov yes but he's sore, cause he got linoded. | [02:23] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: what is your private key? | [02:23] |
thestringpuller | lol | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | but tell him i said his pool never saw as much btc as mpex saw this year alone. | [02:23] |
Bugpowder_ | nice, bids finnally are open | [02:24] |
Bugpowder_ | probably will bounce now :) | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [02:25] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [02:25] |
gribble | 469.590851 seconds | [02:25] |
gribble | Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. | [02:25] |
kakobrekla | still whole infrastructure is falling apart | [02:25] |
kakobrekla | when major movements happen | [02:25] |
kakobrekla | unserious | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla this is true. | [02:26] |
Bowjob | ;ticker | [02:26] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:26] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.00100, Best ask: 38.03130, Bid-ask spread: 0.03030, Last trade: 38.03130, 24 hour volume: 138552.24765830, 24 hour low: 37.90000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.68042 | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | funny thing is, the 49-39 drop happened on 30k bitcoins worht of volume | [02:27] |
mircea_popescu | which is like jackshit | [02:27] |
Bugpowder_ | http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png is STALE | [02:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [+] | [02:28] |
kakobrekla | everything is broke | [02:28] |
kakobrekla | txes dont get confirmed | [02:28] |
kakobrekla | goxlag is days | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla mpex trades! | [02:29] |
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kakobrekla | last price uknown | [02:29] |
dub | a LOT more coin jsut showed up for sale | [02:29] |
kakobrekla | unknown | [02:29] |
jurov | kakobrekla can't you just make assbot query proxy address? | [02:29] |
dub | if it bounces its only gonna be for a minute | [02:29] |
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kakobrekla | some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night. | [02:30] |
dub | fucking pastebin down too | [02:30] |
dub | shit is fucked up | [02:30] |
blu3gr1ffon | dub, what do you mean it will only bounec for a minute? | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | Why is your site redirecting to the whitehouse? I thought it was secure? | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | Whitehouse was hacked. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [02:31] |
dub | I think some people realised they might miss out on selling at 50, a shitload more asks showed up there recently, presumably to catch teh bounce | [02:32] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:32] |
gribble | Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. | [02:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.87894633 = 878.9463 BTC [+] | [02:32] |
Bowjob | hold on tight, we are bouncing back | [02:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23360747 = 233.6075 BTC [-] | [02:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26253021 = 262.5302 BTC [-] | [02:32] |
Bowjob | panic selling and panic buying is always a bad idea | [02:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.30740716 = 307.4072 BTC [-] | [02:33] |
kakobrekla | after someone makes a fast trading engine | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | tell it to the options ppl lol | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [02:33] |
gribble | Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. | [02:33] |
Bowjob | thats cuz someone dumped USD | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | mtgox is becoming as useful as bitcoinica. | [02:33] |
Bowjob | it caused BTC to go billions | [02:33] |
hctib | I can't connect to mpex.co | [02:33] |
Bowjob | cant we have an anonymous exchange | [02:34] |
dub | kakobrekla: perhaps something in teh /topic? | [02:34] |
mircea_popescu | hctib mpex.coinbr.com | [02:34] |
Bowjob | and an anonymous debit card | [02:34] |
Bowjob | .. | [02:34] |
hctib | thanks | [02:34] |
kakobrekla | dub noone reads that | [02:34] |
dub | but right now we cant go READ TEH FUCKING TOPIC | [02:34] |
mircea_popescu | dub misses his creature conforts. | [02:34] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:35] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.00000, Best ask: 38.00190, Bid-ask spread: 1.00190, Last trade: 37.00000, 24 hour volume: 142568.29851439, 24 hour low: 37.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.49249 | [02:35] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1573 = 15.73 BTC [-] | [02:35] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [-] | [02:36] |
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mircea_popescu | i thought you were gonna go CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://whitehouse.gov | [02:38] |
kakobrekla | :p | [02:38] |
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dub | it'd sure be nice to trade on this | [02:39] |
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dub | oh hey gox farted out an update | [02:41] |
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jurov | coinbr keeps getting mpex deposits as if nothing was happening | [02:41] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67800 @ 0.00073204 = 49.6323 BTC [-] | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67800 @ 0.00073204 = 49.6323 BTC [-] | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8573 @ 0.00074999 = 6.4297 BTC [+] | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8573 @ 0.00074999 = 6.4297 BTC [+] | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6515 @ 0.00074999 = 4.8862 BTC [+] | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6515 @ 0.00074999 = 4.8862 BTC [+] | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1817112 @ 0.00075 = 1362.834 BTC [+] | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1817112 @ 0.00075 = 1362.834 BTC [+] | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 10 @ 0.05264551 = 0.5265 BTC [-] | [02:42] |
jurov | business.as.usual | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | lol now there's an echo ? | [02:42] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:42] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31000, Best ask: 37.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.69000, Last trade: 36.31000, 24 hour volume: 146035.97593336, 24 hour low: 36.31000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.31001 | [02:42] |
Bowjob | damn | [02:43] |
Bowjob | i shoulda listned to bug that time | [02:44] |
Bowjob | lol | [02:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 200 @ 0.05608295 = 11.2166 BTC [+] | [02:45] |
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mircea_popescu | o nelly | [02:47] |
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jcpham | y hello | [02:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23340951 = 233.4095 BTC [-] | [02:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26219875 = 262.1988 BTC [-] | [02:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3070958 = 307.0958 BTC [-] | [02:47] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 76 @ 0.65 = 49.4 BTC [-] | [02:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.87975412 = 879.7541 BTC [+] | [02:48] |
dub | mpex making banque | [02:48] |
Eduard_Munteanu | mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HruSsPKVjuc :P | [02:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
Eduard_Munteanu | s/copacul/bitcoinul/ | [02:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.15664416 = 156.6442 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.17343444 = 173.4344 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.19179501 = 191.795 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.2117738 = 211.7738 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | ohoho. capitulation eh | [02:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23340951 = 233.4095 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26219875 = 262.1988 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3070958 = 307.0958 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:50] |
Bowjob | gah | [02:51] |
Bowjob | fuck | [02:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.425 = 2.975 BTC [-] | [02:51] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31000, Best ask: 36.34608, Bid-ask spread: 0.03608, Last trade: 36.31000, 24 hour volume: 157207.79114001, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.69425 | [02:51] |
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Eduard_Munteanu | I should really go play a game or something, else I might do something stupid like buy in again too early. | [02:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+] | [02:51] |
* | Eduard_Munteanu sold at 48.5 | [02:51] |
jcpham | i did some profit taking at 50 otc | [02:51] |
Bowjob | http://blockchain.info/tx/13dffdaef097881acfe9bdb5e6338192242d80161ffec264ee61cf23bc9a1164 | [02:51] |
Bowjob | Look at this guys | [02:52] |
jcpham | which i am mildly proud of | [02:52] |
jurov | maybe start buying slowly | [02:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.44 = 14.4 BTC [-] | [02:52] |
Bowjob | bug | [02:52] |
Bowjob | dude | [02:52] |
Bowjob | how did u see that coming | [02:52] |
Bowjob | wtf | [02:52] |
jcpham | eligius mined it | [02:52] |
Bowjob | i woulda believed u honestly if u didnt buy puts and got killed | [02:52] |
jcpham | i asked luke | [02:52] |
Eduard_Munteanu | I'm worried bad news might hit US, then Europe by tommorow and they'll sell further. The market depth is rather pathetic. | [02:52] |
jcpham | eligius mined the 95btc txn block | [02:52] |
mircea_popescu | Eduard_Munteanu and to think ppl were whining about s.dice mkt depth | [02:52] |
Eduard_Munteanu | mircea_popescu: market depth seemed much better before we hit $40 | [02:53] |
Eduard_Munteanu | Like, a couple of days ago. | [02:53] |
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blu3gr1ffon | yup, coinbase is empty | [02:53] |
dub | this is glorious | [02:53] |
blu3gr1ffon | how do I get BTC now? | [02:53] |
Eduard_Munteanu | blu3gr1ffon: mtgox? | [02:54] |
dub | why would you want it? | [02:54] |
Eduard_Munteanu | Oh, you have USD. | [02:54] |
mircea_popescu | blu3gr1ffon you can't, it has to crash for the iluminati to make bank first. | [02:54] |
blu3gr1ffon | oh fuck it | [02:54] |
dub | there will be plenty for everyone under $1 | [02:54] |
jcpham | hahahaha dub | [02:54] |
blu3gr1ffon | hooray? :/ | [02:54] |
mircea_popescu | fudb | [02:54] |
dub | shh | [02:54] |
jcpham | hooray if you sold today | [02:55] |
jcpham | not hooray if you bought | [02:55] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:55] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.00000, Best ask: 35.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 35.60000, 24 hour volume: 157738.28216881, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.65915 | [02:55] |
Bowjob | Wow | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | le 35 | [02:55] |
Bowjob | I can't watch | [02:55] |
Bowjob | it hurts | [02:55] |
jcpham | hge haircut today for any buyer | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | teaches them to buy into scams. | [02:55] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [02:55] |
gribble | Error: invalid syntax ( |
[02:55] |
blu3gr1ffon | so laggy it's broken | [02:56] |
jcpham | buy before noon, lose %20 by dinner | [02:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] | [02:56] |
dub | ;;calc 157738*43.66 | [02:57] |
gribble | 6886841.08 | [02:57] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [02:57] |
dub | record? | [02:57] |
gribble | Error: invalid syntax ( |
[02:57] |
jcpham | borked | [02:57] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [02:57] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.10667, Best ask: 35.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.88333, Last trade: 34.70000, 24 hour volume: 157860.94560379, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.64208 | [02:57] |
error4733 | 7M$ wow | [02:57] |
dub | USD$7m volume | [02:57] |
Bowjob | capitulation | [02:59] |
dub | this is not france | [02:59] |
dub | this is BITCOIIIIIN | [02:59] |
blu3gr1ffon | parlay! | [02:59] |
Bowjob | RIP guys, see you at single digits | [03:00] |
blu3gr1ffon | to change! | [03:00] |
mircea_popescu | abnd now the mpoe bot can't quote anymore because the pricefeed finally died. | [03:00] |
mircea_popescu | somebody needs to make a motherfucking exchange. | [03:01] |
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jurov | it doesn't use bitcoincharts? | [03:01] |
dub | nah, just use one from magic teh gathering, It'll do | [03:01] |
mircea_popescu | jurov mpioe ? yes. | [03:02] |
Bowjob | i wanna ignore bitcoin | [03:02] |
Bowjob | like for a mont | [03:02] |
Bowjob | its hard | [03:02] |
Bowjob | lol | [03:02] |
assbot | want some help? | [03:02] |
mod6 | ahh 34! | [03:02] |
jurov | !ticker m s.mpoe | [03:02] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [03:03] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [03:03] |
Bowjob | yeap, back to where we started | [03:03] |
gribble | 217.923764 seconds | [03:03] |
assbot | It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. | [03:03] |
mod6 | ups and downs. | [03:03] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [03:03] |
gribble | Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. | [03:03] |
gribble | 185.819061 seconds | [03:03] |
jurov | assbot, you better watch ur own stuff | [03:03] |
assbot | Whitehouse does not know S.MPOE. | [03:04] |
error4733 | omg | [03:04] |
jurov | live.coinbr.com does. shame on you | [03:04] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,convert eur | [03:04] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 34.40000 U.S. dollars = 26.3945369 Euros | [03:04] |
Namworld | what happened to options? | [03:05] |
mod6 | (17:04) <@assbot> Whitehouse does not know S.MPOE. << O.O ?! LOL | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [03:05] |
jurov | Namworld, 1. whale dumped them | [03:05] |
jurov | 2. mpoe bot doesn't know what the price is | [03:05] |
jurov | due to general breakage | [03:05] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [03:06] |
gribble | Error: invalid syntax ( |
[03:06] |
kakobrekla | ;;ticker | [03:06] |
gribble | Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. | [03:06] |
kakobrekla | facepalm | [03:07] |
mircea_popescu | lag to retrieving lag : 500 seconds | [03:07] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [03:07] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.42000, Best ask: 35.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.07800, Last trade: 35.42000, 24 hour volume: 162587.00601570, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.31335 | [03:07] |
Bowjob | well fuck | [03:07] |
Bowjob | ill bury my coins | [03:07] |
Bowjob | be right | [03:07] |
kakobrekla | 33.something on stamp | [03:07] |
Bowjob | back | [03:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.91703169 = 917.0317 BTC [+] | [03:10] |
kakobrekla | ;;ticker | [03:10] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.87188, Best ask: 35.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12812, Last trade: 35.00000, 24 hour volume: 163347.55998439, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.27533 | [03:10] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [03:10] |
gribble | Error: invalid syntax ( |
[03:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18440754 = 184.4075 BTC [-] | [03:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20415297 = 204.153 BTC [-] | [03:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22560969 = 225.6097 BTC [-] | [03:11] |
mircea_popescu | a ok we be back | [03:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24880864 = 248.8086 BTC [-] | [03:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.2932762 = 293.2762 BTC [-] | [03:11] |
mircea_popescu | crazy shit, 43.8 vwap | [03:11] |
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Bugpowder | Got filled. Now bounce dammit! | [03:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 82 @ 0.06075508 = 4.9819 BTC [+] | [03:12] |
kakobrekla | where at | [03:12] |
Bugpowder | 36.33 and maybe 35, don't remember. Had a 33.33 too but not hit yet | [03:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 255 @ 0.06075508 = 15.4925 BTC [+] | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | p31 selling srsly ? | [03:13] |
dub | ;;goxlag | [03:14] |
gribble | Error: invalid syntax ( |
[03:14] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [03:14] |
gribble | Error: invalid syntax ( |
[03:14] |
mircea_popescu | ;;goxfag | [03:15] |
gribble | Error: "goxfag" is not a valid command. | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | orly. | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | like the other is. | [03:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00899 BTC [+] | [03:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 19 @ 0.009 = 0.171 BTC [+] | [03:15] |
jurov | gribble chokes on something in https://mtgox.com/api/1/generic/order/lag | [03:15] |
AndroUser512 | Whoa why is btc so low? | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | AndroUser512 because white house hacked mpex | [03:16] |
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AndroUser512 | Nah | [03:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [WHITEHOUSE] 1 @ 0.1337 [+] | [03:16] |
jurov | !ticker m whitehouse | [03:17] |
Bugpowder | Yesss | [03:17] |
assbot | I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. | [03:17] |
Bugpowder | Holy shit! Ingot filled at 33.35 | [03:18] |
mircea_popescu | 10k ? | [03:18] |
kakobrekla | ;;goxlag | [03:18] |
gribble | 24.677975 seconds | [03:18] |
kakobrekla | ;;ticker | [03:18] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.16249, Best ask: 37.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.83751, Last trade: 37.00000, 24 hour volume: 167512.14667412, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.08314 | [03:18] |
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Bugpowder | 33.335 actually | [03:18] |
Bugpowder | I am | [03:18] |
Bugpowder | In the zone | [03:18] |
jurov | ineresting, bitcoinity thinks lag is 18s and price going up to 38 | [03:19] |
kakobrekla | 37 on stamp | [03:20] |
kakobrekla | from 33 | [03:20] |
kakobrekla | first rebounce | [03:20] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18362231 = 183.6223 BTC [-] | [03:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20334305 = 203.3431 BTC [-] | [03:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22478093 = 224.7809 BTC [-] | [03:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24796781 = 247.9678 BTC [-] | [03:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29181519 = 291.8152 BTC [-] | [03:21] |
AndroUser512 | But for real did something notable happen or is this a good ole correction? Im mobile n cant research atm | [03:21] |
kakobrekla | 40 at stamp | [03:21] |
kakobrekla | ;;ticker | [03:21] |
mircea_popescu | AndroUser512 nothing really happened. | [03:21] |
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gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.14195, Best ask: 39.47423, Bid-ask spread: 2.33228, Last trade: 39.47423, 24 hour volume: 168473.22517826, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.05309 | [03:21] |
AndroUser512 | Thx | [03:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.92096486 = 920.9649 BTC [+] | [03:21] |
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jurov | AndroUser512 Maybe something behind scenes with coinlab or so. | [03:22] |
Chaang-Noi | bulls on parade! | [03:22] |
kakobrekla | 42 on stamp hehe | [03:23] |
Chaang-Noi | sp gpx dead? | [03:23] |
Chaang-Noi | btc-e is higher than gox? oh lol | [03:24] |
Chaang-Noi | gox really does seem dead? | [03:27] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;gox lag | [03:27] |
gribble | Error: "gox" is not a valid command. | [03:27] |
dub | yeah it is | [03:27] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;goxlag | [03:27] |
gribble | 288.353468 seconds | [03:27] |
kakobrekla | ;;ticker | [03:27] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.47800, Best ask: 39.87296, Bid-ask spread: 0.39496, Last trade: 39.87296, 24 hour volume: 164990.11107081, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.09008 | [03:27] |
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Chaang-Noi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4 | [03:29] |
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Chaang-Noi | okay we need to really start a collection fuind for mt gox to get them new hardware... | [03:31] |
kakobrekla | like any hw can fix that. | [03:31] |
Chaang-Noi | what does the nyse have? | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla 3-4k btc didn't help the forum | [03:32] |
Chaang-Noi | also is it not a hardware issue? where they hacked? | [03:32] |
kakobrekla | its a sw issue | [03:32] |
mircea_popescu | if you can't get a forum to run stable out of > 100k usd, mtgox is outside of what the world can affoerd | [03:32] |
Chaang-Noi | oh | [03:32] |
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Chaang-Noi | i wonder if theymos just kept/spent the fourm money, his plan of fractional reserves i was lik ewtf... | [03:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.92093144 = 920.9314 BTC [-] | [03:32] |
mircea_popescu | his what ? | [03:32] |
kakobrekla | he invested in bitcoinica or asic | [03:33] |
kakobrekla | im sure | [03:33] |
mod6 | lol bitcoinica | [03:33] |
Chaang-Noi | he was going to let people hold some of the funds but let them spend them... | [03:33] |
Chaang-Noi | i was thinking yeah, he is doing that so he can, its retarded | [03:33] |
dub | he's best buddies with interscamgo and nefario | [03:33] |
dub | so its probably invested there | [03:33] |
Chaang-Noi | he is no longer friends with nefario lol | [03:33] |
Chaang-Noi | theymos holds glbse money | [03:34] |
Chaang-Noi | im pretty sure... | [03:34] |
dub | be great if he could refund me | [03:34] |
Chaang-Noi | he was just saying how if neferio lost his keys theymos cant release the money | [03:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00072486 = 7.7198 BTC [-] | [03:34] |
Chaang-Noi | theymos, lol... | [03:34] |
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dub | ;;ticker | [03:35] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.91161, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08839, Last trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 166111.09431322, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.05643 | [03:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14910824 = 149.1082 BTC [-] | [03:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.16554201 = 165.542 BTC [-] | [03:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18359431 = 183.5943 BTC [-] | [03:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20331669 = 203.3167 BTC [-] | [03:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22475653 = 224.7565 BTC [-] | [03:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24794567 = 247.9457 BTC [-] | [03:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29181519 = 291.8152 BTC [-] | [03:35] |
Pasko_ | ;;goxlag | [03:37] |
gribble | 356.354255 seconds | [03:37] |
joallard | bluh | [03:37] |
Namworld | Seriously... | [03:37] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah | [03:37] |
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Chaang-Noi | gox seems dead... like dead dead | [03:38] |
Namworld | I'm freakin exhausted by this freakin never fixed lag issues. | [03:38] |
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Namworld | It just keeps happening again and again and again | [03:38] |
mod6 | well, there are 69,000 people hitting refresh on gox | [03:38] |
mod6 | so... | [03:38] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah im doing f5 over and over about as fast as i cant type :) | [03:38] |
Namworld | Should hardly be an issue with a proper setup. | [03:39] |
Chaang-Noi | agree | [03:39] |
Namworld | With on demand nodes filling in for demand. | [03:39] |
Chaang-Noi | oh well coinlab will take over anyway | [03:39] |
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Namworld | Elastic computing... | [03:39] |
jurov | even reddit noticed: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19szhx/mpexco_is_redirecting_to_whitehousegov/ | [03:40] |
pigeons | cheap PR | [03:41] |
jurov | yea, but nobody was around to explain them what happened for 2 hours | [03:42] |
jurov | that's abput their attn span | [03:42] |
jurov | *about | [03:42] |
dub | wait noagendamarket is eskimobob? | [03:42] |
jcpham | hahahha | [03:42] |
Chaang-Noi | was mpex hacked? | [03:42] |
pigeons | he's not but that would be good | [03:43] |
Namworld | nope, was not | [03:43] |
jurov | Chaang-Noi, no it was just bought by coinbr | [03:43] |
Namworld | lol jurov... right... | [03:43] |
Chaang-Noi | what? | [03:43] |
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pigeons | us mpex customers now need to use coinlab | [03:43] |
Chaang-Noi | lol | [03:43] |
Namworld | Chaang: being DDoS'ed | [03:43] |
Chaang-Noi | cant take this trolling before coffee:) | [03:43] |
jurov | Chaang-Noi read my comment on reddit | [03:43] |
Chaang-Noi | ahh okay thanks | [03:43] |
Namworld | so mpex.co now redirects to whitehouse.gov | [03:43] |
jurov | it's tldr | [03:43] |
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Namworld | you can access using mpex.coinbr.com for now | [03:44] |
Namworld | which proxies the backend | [03:44] |
dub | jurov: how about my comment | [03:44] |
Namworld | only the mpex.co frontend is being DDoS'ed | [03:44] |
Namworld | I think | [03:44] |
* | BitHub protects the backend at all costs | [03:44] |
Chaang-Noi | oh lol, they redirected the attack to the whitehouse? is that a good idea? :) | [03:44] |
dub | its an idea | [03:45] |
Chaang-Noi | yes it is:) | [03:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14908358 = 149.0836 BTC [-] | [03:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.16551813 = 165.5181 BTC [-] | [03:45] |
dub | we have had no word of a drone strike to date | [03:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18357148 = 183.5715 BTC [-] | [03:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20329519 = 203.2952 BTC [-] | [03:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22473663 = 224.7366 BTC [-] | [03:46] |
jurov | Namworld if this causes to overstep my bitvps bandwidth, or causes bitvps to be included in ddos outright | [03:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 18 @ 0.24792761 = 4.4627 BTC [-] | [03:46] |
jurov | what will you do? | [03:46] |
dub | eww coinbr is on bitvps? | [03:46] |
jurov | jeeez | [03:46] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.9209042 = 920.9042 BTC [-] | [03:47] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi what can it hurt ? ddoser gets to be first drone victim ? | [03:48] |
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Namworld | i would be surprised, jurov | [03:48] |
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jurov | lmao | [03:48] |
Chaang-Noi | mp, they might think you are part of the attack | [03:48] |
Chaang-Noi | i know how americans with drones think.... | [03:48] |
jcpham | easy to explain | [03:49] |
jcpham | just say you meant whitehouse.com | [03:49] |
Chaang-Noi | not that anything will come of it but still | [03:49] |
jcpham | total typo | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | i thought the sec was watching this chan | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | what, they lack reading comprehension ? | [03:49] |
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Chaang-Noi | who told you sec was here? | [03:49] |
Chaang-Noi | and why would they be here? | [03:49] |
Chaang-Noi | fbi/dea maybe but sec? lol | [03:50] |
mircea_popescu | nefario. | [03:50] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [03:52] |
Chaang-Noi | hmm, i highly doubt they can get decent evidance from this chan | [03:52] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.00000, Best ask: 41.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.92000, Last trade: 41.00000, 24 hour volume: 167242.60774519, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.02128 | [03:52] |
Bowjob | $41 now wtf | [03:52] |
Bowjob | is going on | [03:52] |
dub | bitcoin | [03:52] |
Chaang-Noi | in a stong bull market corrects are sharp and fast bowjob | [03:52] |
Bowjob | I just sait it out | [03:53] |
Bowjob | *sat | [03:53] |
jurov | in case of drone strike i'm using human shield | [03:53] |
Bowjob | none of this bullshit panic buy and sell | [03:53] |
Chaang-Noi | oh, i thought we were going to buy back in at $36? | [03:53] |
jurov | they have built here insanely dense residential blocks , like 10k people per square kilometer | [03:53] |
Bowjob | I got burned 800 dollars | [03:53] |
Bowjob | fuck that | [03:53] |
jurov | and i'm sitting inthe middle | [03:53] |
Bowjob | no more panic sell | [03:53] |
Bowjob | and panic buy | [03:53] |
Chaang-Noi | 800 dollars? its just fiat anyway... | [03:53] |
dub | jurov: ask pakistan how that worked out | [03:53] |
Bowjob | well it was unrealized gain | [03:53] |
Bowjob | so its all good | [03:53] |
Bowjob | lol | [03:53] |
mircea_popescu | dub has a point. | [03:54] |
Bowjob | man | [03:54] |
Bowjob | some of my classmates have babies now | [03:54] |
Bowjob | wtf | [03:54] |
Bowjob | i've known them since second grade.. i still remember those days | [03:54] |
Bowjob | .. wtf time | [03:54] |
Chaang-Noi | you dont know how sex works? | [03:54] |
Bowjob | stahp | [03:54] |
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Bowjob | no, just saying. if i could wake up as a third grader, i could blend in | [03:55] |
Bowjob | lol | [03:55] |
mircea_popescu | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/global-slavery-by-the-numbers/?smid=tw-nytimesbits&seid=auto | [03:55] |
Bowjob | just with 12 extra years of exp | [03:55] |
Chaang-Noi | would be odd trying to date a 3rd grader however... | [03:55] |
jurov | at least such casualties need obama's signature. mircea i doubt you have 30 girls around you in the mansion at all times | [03:55] |
mircea_popescu | While slavery is illegal across the globe, the SumAll Foundation noted, there are 27 million slaves worldwide, more than in 1860, when there were 25 million. | [03:55] |
mircea_popescu | this is like... lincoln won the war on slavery. | [03:55] |
pigeons | praise be upon him | [03:56] |
Chaang-Noi | Sexual slavery brings the slave’s owner $18,000 over the slave’s working life in Thailand (this used to be a big problem, they used to go around in van and steal kids) | [03:56] |
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Bowjob | it woulda nice to panic sell for a bit | [03:57] |
Bowjob | then bought back | [03:57] |
Bowjob | lol | [03:57] |
Bowjob | mammon has a huge grip on us | [03:57] |
Bowjob | its delicious | [03:57] |
Bowjob | we are all going burn in hell for it. might as well enjoy life | [03:57] |
Bowjob | hehe | [03:57] |
jurov | third grader, ic | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | !!Please note!! that the Bitcoin value is changing in daily basis! Therefore the price might also change if the invoice is not paid right away! | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | Reference Number: 11714 | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | Error getting json fileThe current exchange rate we accept for Bitcoin: | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | 1 BTC = -0.3 USD | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | what the fucking fuck. | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | 100 btc for 30 bux ? rly ?! | [03:59] |
Chaang-Noi | where? | [03:59] |
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grubles | i, too, have heard the sec watches this chan | [03:59] |
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Bowjob | where | [03:59] |
Bowjob | ill buy it | [04:00] |
grubles | <_< >_> | [04:00] |
pigeons | I heard they are wondering about goat | [04:00] |
Chaang-Noi | they have been trying to talk to me | [04:00] |
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mircea_popescu | some dumbass "orangesite" hoster | [04:00] |
pigeons | they want some insured pass through | [04:00] |
mircea_popescu | wants to charge me 100 btc for 30 bux | [04:00] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah, that insured ppt cost me pigeons, that was some fail | [04:01] |
Chaang-Noi | did you buy into that? | [04:01] |
pigeons | no | [04:01] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.btcwebhost.com/cart.php?a=view | [04:02] |
mircea_popescu | emote server or file not found | [04:02] |
Chaang-Noi | well i paid it back quickly | [04:02] |
mircea_popescu | dude bitcoin hiosting is a joke. | [04:02] |
dub | namecheap takes btc nao | [04:03] |
dub | and does hosting in addition to names | [04:03] |
Chaang-Noi | i heart namecheap cant wait to pay next bill | [04:03] |
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mircea_popescu | dub i been hosting with nc since 2001 i think | [04:04] |
mircea_popescu | but i won't host there | [04:04] |
Chaang-Noi | action at gox now, a bit, near 42 | [04:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.91731637 = 917.3164 BTC [-] | [04:04] |
Guest4040 | yeah, trying to get my sells in | [04:04] |
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kakobrekla | 45 on stamp | [04:05] |
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Chaang-Noi | glad we got that correction out of the way | [04:05] |
Bowjob_ | that was merely a bear trap | [04:05] |
mircea_popescu | # You did not enter your first name # You did not enter your last name # You did not enter your email address # You did not enter your address (line 1) # You did not enter your city # You did not enter your state # You did not enter your postcode # You did not enter your phone number # You are required to enter a security answer # You did not enter a password # Date of Birth is required # | [04:06] |
mircea_popescu | dude srlsy ?! | [04:06] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin hosting, date of birth is required ? | [04:06] |
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mircea_popescu | what is WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE | [04:06] |
Bugpowdrrr | sweeeet. | [04:06] |
jurov | you forgot gender and boob size | [04:06] |
[\] | https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/309345069461303296 | [04:07] |
[\] | didn't pirate say the same thing? | [04:07] |
jcpham | pretty sure he did | [04:08] |
jcpham | maybe i've heard gmaxwell say it too | [04:08] |
jcpham | you think they are all the same person [\] | [04:08] |
[\] | duh! | [04:08] |
jcpham | man what a trip | [04:08] |
Bugpowdrrr | 43.15 | [04:09] |
dub | gavin gonna jump ship | [04:09] |
Bugpowdrrr | Got out on the bouuuuunce | [04:09] |
Chaang-Noi | lol war in the dev leadership we dont know about? | [04:09] |
dub | sould you want to work with those toolbags? | [04:10] |
dub | would* | [04:10] |
smickles | so ;;ticker | [04:10] |
smickles | ;;ticker | [04:10] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50001, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39999, Last trade: 41.90000, 24 hour volume: 169395.11137261, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01063 | [04:10] |
Bowjob_ | what dev war lol | [04:10] |
Bowjob_ | ;;ticker | [04:10] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50001, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39999, Last trade: 41.90000, 24 hour volume: 169388.95028261, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01069 | [04:10] |
Bugpowdrrr | probably will fade back down from here... | [04:11] |
Chaang-Noi | gavin just seemed like grumbelinz, but you know he has coins.. he gots to be a rich guy by now | [04:11] |
mircea_popescu | how do you know he got coins ? | [04:12] |
[\] | because satoshi | [04:12] |
Chaang-Noi | i dont know he has coins, but i highly suspect | [04:12] |
Bowjob_ | well he probably has coins since he gave away a fuckton | [04:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21961 @ 0.00075 = 16.4708 BTC [+] | [04:13] |
Bowjob_ | to the faucet | [04:13] |
Bowjob_ | its a good bet to assume he has tons of it | [04:13] |
Chaang-Noi | also if he shorted on bitcoinica, lol | [04:13] |
smickles | ;;calc 31/1.06498 | [04:13] |
gribble | 29.1085278597 | [04:13] |
smickles | mpex options so imba | [04:13] |
Bugpowdrrr | !ticker m s.mpoe | [04:13] |
Bugpowdrrr | someone bought 7M shares | [04:14] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;ticker | [04:14] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.59217, Best ask: 41.59320, Bid-ask spread: 0.00103, Last trade: 43.90000, 24 hour volume: 169891.04250013, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01660 | [04:14] |
Bowjob_ | http://s24.postimage.org/onppwxshx/35808271.jpg | [04:14] |
Bugpowdrrr | And MPOE is probably down 5k right now. | [04:14] |
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mircea_popescu | Bugpowdrrr it sold like 70k of calls you know ? | [04:20] |
mircea_popescu | or 80k even | [04:21] |
mod6 | yeah, 89`125 CALL | [04:22] |
mod6 | 13`587 PUT | [04:23] |
Namworld | Someone was selling calls? | [04:23] |
mircea_popescu | something like 14k iirc | [04:23] |
Namworld | Oh... right... price is low... can't be purchases | [04:24] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld yes they were selling calls bought yest | [04:24] |
[\] | I see we had a 30% swing in the price today | [04:26] |
[\] | I hope people realize just how shallow the kiddie pool still is | [04:26] |
Bugpowdrrr | Customers made money on the calls right? | [04:26] |
mircea_popescu | nah | [04:28] |
mircea_popescu | maybe on the lowo nes, | [04:28] |
Namworld | Apparently not, price is popping right back up. | [04:28] |
Bugpowdrrr | the short put covering was pretty big too thoguh | [04:28] |
Bugpowdrrr | hmm | [04:28] |
Bugpowdrrr | ok | [04:28] |
mircea_popescu | the short put guy made like .2-3 per contract | [04:29] |
mircea_popescu | i wouyld guess | [04:29] |
Bugpowdrrr | Wasn't watching. Eat dinner. Was a good day for me :) | [04:29] |
Bugpowdrrr | Now if we blast thru 50, I will be seriously impressed. | [04:29] |
dub | network is still pretty hosed | [04:29] |
Bugpowdrrr | I made a few transfers today, no problem at all | [04:30] |
dub | currently 2.5k unconfirmed | [04:30] |
dub | still some scope for confidence trashing news hits | [04:31] |
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dub | gox is still lagged by 8 minutes | [04:32] |
dub | mpex still hacked by the gubbermint | [04:32] |
dub | $2 still imminent | [04:33] |
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Bowjob_ | ;;ticker | [04:34] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.00000, Best ask: 43.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 43.00000, 24 hour volume: 167804.82008240, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.03618 | [04:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1569 @ 0.0046 = 7.2174 BTC [-] | [04:36] |
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Bugpowdrrr | bitcoinity is really holding up the best in these tough conditions | [04:39] |
Chaang-Noi | thats where im at, i tipped him yesterday | [04:39] |
Bugpowdrrr | yah I should tip too | [04:39] |
Bugpowdrrr | first time I saw the site was today | [04:39] |
Chaang-Noi | frolm the site whiskey fund: 1EWjHKPYGAJ3v5LnDyBo3Fn1PFsazBstqk | | [04:39] |
Bugpowdrrr | was very helpful. | [04:39] |
mircea_popescu | what does it do ? | [04:40] |
Chaang-Noi | i sent .1337 should buy him a beer or two | [04:40] |
Chaang-Noi | its live charts mp | [04:40] |
Chaang-Noi | charts that work | [04:40] |
dub | its been down for like a year though right? | [04:40] |
Chaang-Noi | i honestly dont know | [04:40] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;asks 49 | [04:41] |
gribble | There are currently 18888.341 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 892422.114396 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds | [04:41] |
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mircea_popescu | ah | [04:42] |
mircea_popescu | cool, nice to have. | [04:43] |
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Bugpowdrrr | and now its down?!? | [04:46] |
Bugpowdrrr | nah just lagged | [04:46] |
Bugpowdrrr | expecting retrace to 40 here | [04:47] |
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mircea_popescu | yeah lagged again | [04:49] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m ^OIX | [04:52] |
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thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [04:53] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.60000, Best ask: 43.01009, Bid-ask spread: 0.41009, Last trade: 43.02000, 24 hour volume: 168407.58530743, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.04250 | [04:53] |
assbot | I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. | [04:53] |
mircea_popescu | ^OIX: "7d": {"avg": "4711973083","min": "3024713516","max": "4855255527","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.56240676575E+12","cnt": ""} | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | i'm like the new assbot | [04:56] |
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Chaang-Noi | lol assbot :) | [05:01] |
Chaang-Noi | !goat | [05:01] |
Chaang-Noi | 45 | [05:02] |
Bugpowdrrr | strong | [05:02] |
Bugpowdrrr | impressive | [05:02] |
Chaang-Noi | mp how much is a slave in romania, i feel too rich/lazy to do my work... | [05:02] |
Bugpowdrrr | Taking the Kruggerand photo | [05:02] |
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mircea_popescu | i dunno that they have those here. | [05:07] |
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mod6 | (17:16) <@assbot> [MPEX] [WHITEHOUSE] 1 @ 0.1337 [+] | [05:09] |
mod6 | ^^^ lol @ that | [05:09] |
mod6 | and yeah +1 on "WE NEED A MOTHERFUCKING EXCHANGE" | [05:09] |
mod6 | we need like 3 that are all independant of eachother | [05:10] |
mod6 | and good ones that don't fucking break when a guy wants to sell a few, or more. | [05:10] |
mod6 | and then with MPEx serving up options and futures, we'll have a nice little btc finance ecosystem | [05:11] |
mod6 | but all of this reliance on gox is for the birds. | [05:11] |
dub | I've been waiting a long time for someone to simply dos gox for a few weeks | [05:12] |
dub | completely kill bitcoin | [05:12] |
Bugpowdrrr | http://i.imgur.com/iLyZxUZ.jpg | [05:13] |
pgp | hopefully coinlab will be able to "improve" the mtgox experience... | [05:14] |
pgp | smaller exchanges are starting to get some traction, though... | [05:14] |
pgp | bitfloor and bitstamp do a decent job of it... | [05:15] |
Chaang-Noi | 36 again. fuck me | [05:15] |
Bugpowdrrr | told ya | [05:15] |
Bugpowdrrr | that was more violent than expected though | [05:16] |
Namworld | Wait, back down to 36? | [05:16] |
dub | someone needs to tell gox | [05:16] |
doctor_pullfingr | bid still at 43 | [05:16] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [05:17] |
gribble | Time since last block: 40 minutes and 10 seconds | [05:17] |
Bugpowdrrr | eep 1740.26 2 minutes ago 36.000 | [05:17] |
mircea_popescu | holy hell | [05:17] |
mircea_popescu | what is this about asics and whatnot ? | [05:17] |
mod6 | (19:12) < dub> I've been waiting a long time for someone to simply dos gox for a few weeks << exactly. | [05:17] |
Bugpowdrrr | ;;tslb | [05:18] |
gribble | Time since last block: 41 seconds | [05:18] |
Namworld | ;;bids 35 | [05:18] |
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gribble | There are currently 2015.0753 bitcoins demanded at or over 35.0 USD, worth 70734.225723 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0052 seconds | [05:18] |
Bugpowdrrr | clark moody is fd up | [05:19] |
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dub | bitcoincharts feed has been dead for an hour | [05:20] |
Namworld | [22:19] <@gribble> There are currently 2.189923 bitcoins demanded at or over 36.0 USD, worth 82.4772267629 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.4769 | [05:21] |
Namworld | [22:19] <@gribble> There are currently 181.27547 bitcoins offered at or under 42.0 USD, worth 7608.18637359 USD in total. | Data vintage: 35.9463 seconds | [05:21] |
Namworld | I just checked on OTC. These spreads are ridiculous | [05:21] |
dub | I wouldnt trust that | [05:21] |
dub | there is basically no way of knowing what the price is | [05:21] |
Namworld | Maybe delayed... but clarkmoody shows the same | [05:21] |
Bugpowdrrr | clarkmoody is dead | [05:22] |
Namworld | It looks like the spread is gone | [05:22] |
mod6 | breathe | [05:22] |
Bugpowdrrr | bitcoinity | [05:22] |
Namworld | the bids/asks I mean | [05:22] |
dub | the gox trade page has 0.04 spread | [05:22] |
Bugpowdrrr | ah | [05:22] |
Bugpowdrrr | lol | [05:22] |
Chaang-Noi | back to 42 :) | [05:22] |
Chaang-Noi | i think people just cant make orders at gox, so no vol so crazy movements | [05:22] |
Namworld | dub: so does clarkmoody says, 0.04 spread | [05:22] |
Bugpowdrrr | .04 spread on the orders that were placed 10 minutes ago. What about the population that is in the queue ahead of you? | [05:22] |
dub | its pretty lulzy | [05:23] |
dub | the entire bitcoin economy is a casino at this point | [05:24] |
dub | price is some random value between 33 and 49 | [05:24] |
Namworld | and it's killing commerce | [05:24] |
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Chaang-Noi | yeah... it will stabilize around $1000 in a few years... | [05:25] |
Namworld | These swings will undo all the adoption by serious businesses at this rate. | [05:25] |
dub | hopefully | [05:25] |
dub | as I keep saying, inb4 $2 | [05:25] |
mod6 | mtgox must go away after this | [05:26] |
dub | its been worse before | [05:26] |
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dub | I dunno if its still there but at one point a 20k btc trade halted teh engine until mark woke up and confirmed it | [05:26] |
mod6 | yeah, but something better must be constructed, and then have peers that are the same in construction | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitcoinity.org/markets | [05:26] |
dub | as in, its a hard coded failsafe | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | that graph looks like it's had a heart attack | [05:27] |
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Namworld | MtGox doesn't need to go. Just replace the hardware. It appears they are running on a Commodore 64 currently. | [05:27] |
Namworld | Need an upgrade | [05:27] |
mod6 | lol | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | they're spending something like 10k a month on hardware. | [05:27] |
dub | its not the hardware its teh retard driving it | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | which is you kniow... more than the market cap of all but a few bitcoin businesses. | [05:27] |
mod6 | thats insane | [05:28] |
mod6 | $10K USD?! | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | it's what they declare(d) | [05:28] |
mod6 | i guess maybe for the hosting... *shrug*, but its got to be rebuilt better | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | heh. mtgox jusrt stole .2 btc from me. | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno why i went ahead and used them as a pp for some obscure host | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | 7 confirms, "There are not enough bitcoins on this address." | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | in spite of you know, having showed it "about to confirm" earlier. | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | when it had 5 | [05:30] |
mod6 | :< | [05:31] |
Chaang-Noi | lol 2013.. using gox! | [05:31] |
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Bowjob | so what now | [05:33] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [05:33] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.36000, Best ask: 41.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 41.89000, 24 hour volume: 181522.58600462, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.83448 | [05:33] |
Bugpowdrrr | take a nap | [05:35] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah im going afk.. crazyu shit | [05:36] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [05:37] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.31407, Best ask: 40.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.63593, Last trade: 40.95000, 24 hour volume: 181582.58134847, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.83060 | [05:37] |
Bowjob | can we go to 50 please | [05:37] |
Bowjob | lol | [05:37] |
Bugpowdrrr | unlikely | [05:37] |
Bugpowdrrr | America just needs to go to bed | [05:38] |
Bugpowdrrr | and let gox recover | [05:38] |
Bowjob | http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1054 | [05:38] |
Bowjob | I won this bet | [05:38] |
Bowjob | I feel that I should get a bit more than 0.3 for winning the bet. sigh | [05:39] |
Bugpowdrrr | hey, that's like 20 LTC! | [05:39] |
Bowjob | 200 | [05:39] |
Bowjob | lol | [05:39] |
Bowjob | well i got .83 now | [05:40] |
Bowjob | it was 0,5 my bet | [05:40] |
Bowjob | mhm | [05:40] |
ThickAsThieves | i missed the crash of 2013! | [05:42] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;asks 49 | [05:42] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;bc,stats | [05:43] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 224620 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1171 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, 9 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4738813.84956 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.49241 | [05:43] |
gribble | There are currently 22518.834 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 1059107.62381 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds | [05:43] |
Bugpowdrrr | ThickAsThieves: It won't be the last | [05:43] |
Bugpowdrrr | We have not seen REAL fear yet | [05:43] |
ThickAsThieves | hopefully they won't be any bigger | [05:43] |
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Bugpowdrrr | Protip : when the price is up more than $10 in a day, sell some. | [05:44] |
Bugpowdrrr | Set a bid at 33% below | [05:44] |
Bowjob | yep sell some USD to buy BTC | [05:44] |
Bowjob | ! | [05:44] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.00549 = 0.0494 BTC [+] | [05:44] |
Ukto | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1594354#msg1594354 | [05:53] |
dub | pitty it didnt say 'so I whipped up assbot api integration'! | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | totally. | [05:55] |
mircea_popescu | 500 Internal Server Error | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | nginx/1.2.1 | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | who was saying this bitcoinity thing is the best since sliced mpex ? | [05:56] |
dub | heh apparently SA hacked mpex | [05:56] |
Bugpowdrrr | oops | [05:56] |
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mircea_popescu | dub haha | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | don't tell me they just owned themselves. | [05:56] |
dub | no, this is just some aspie shutin wisdom from the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1594343#msg1594343 | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile txs sent 3 hours ago are still unincluded | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | dude people wanted bitcoin to be the new visa ? | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | lay down the pipe. | [05:57] |
dub | yeah back up to 3k unconfirmed | [05:58] |
dub | you need to beat s.deuce fee of .001 to play bitcoin now | [05:58] |
Bowjob | increase th limit | [05:58] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.00549 = 0.0329 BTC [+] | [06:07] |
Bowjob | http://i.imgur.com/4dhQMDS.png | [06:08] |
Bowjob | just saying | [06:08] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [06:09] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.25430, Best ask: 41.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04570, Last trade: 41.25330, 24 hour volume: 180985.14101528, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.80335 | [06:09] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.00999 = 0.999 BTC [+] | [06:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [+] | [06:16] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4645 BTC [+] | [06:22] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] | [06:30] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1537 = 0.3074 BTC [-] | [06:32] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [06:36] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.80000, Best ask: 40.90102, Bid-ask spread: 0.10102, Last trade: 40.80000, 24 hour volume: 182448.07724014, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.76346 | [06:36] |
Bowjob | what a crash | [06:36] |
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Bowjob | actually i cant complain lol | [06:36] |
Bowjob | we need more good news | [06:36] |
Bowjob | how about warren buffer dumping 1 bil to play with | [06:37] |
Bowjob | buffet | [06:37] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 608 @ 0.005 = 3.04 BTC [-] | [06:37] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.005 = 0.035 BTC [-] | [06:37] |
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Bowjob | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oeu_EMPd038 | [06:45] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0049 = 0.0392 BTC [-] | [06:46] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0048 BTC [-] | [06:46] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0044 = 0.22 BTC [-] | [06:46] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0044 = 0.044 BTC [-] | [06:46] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00261 BTC [-] | [06:46] |
Bowjob | http://i.imgur.com/M3QffS5.jpg | [06:46] |
Namworld | Nope | [06:46] |
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Namworld | We're in the bulltrap/return to normal | [06:47] |
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Namworld | I'm saying hello to 16-18 USD/BTC already | [06:49] |
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BitHub | ballz out | [06:51] |
Bowjob | wall street didn't play yet | [06:51] |
Bowjob | def bear trap | [06:51] |
Namworld | if we're at that part of the bubble, we didn't start going parabolic yet... and what we've seen so far is "slow growth" | [06:52] |
Namworld | So we'd hit like 10 000 USD/BTC at the peak or something... | [06:52] |
Namworld | Why would "wall street" play? | [06:52] |
BitHub | i thought that was wall street the last few days? | [06:52] |
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BitHub | n today | [06:53] |
BitHub | i wonder how merchants went today that do pricing | [06:53] |
Namworld | Seriously, why would the whole world suddenly adopt Bitcoins? It doesn't solve any of their problem nor is it convenient for their daily transactions. | [06:54] |
Namworld | We reached the top of the speculative bubble with the near 50 USD/BTC today | [06:55] |
Namworld | What I think. | [06:55] |
BitHub | i dont think the whooooole world | [06:57] |
BitHub | cash is still king | [06:57] |
BitHub | but its very good replacement for credit cards | [06:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0046 = 0.46 BTC [-] | [07:00] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [07:06] |
gribble | Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. | [07:06] |
Bowjob | mt goxxxxxxxx | [07:06] |
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Chaang-Noi | mtgox is dead dead... crazy | [07:14] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [07:15] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.39000, Best ask: 40.40002, Bid-ask spread: 0.01002, Last trade: 40.60000, 24 hour volume: 181729.26901555, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.70517 | [07:15] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [07:19] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.80001, Best ask: 40.84934, Bid-ask spread: 0.04933, Last trade: 40.80000, 24 hour volume: 182163.30359383, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.69988 | [07:19] |
Bowjob | 49.09, the high of 2013 | [07:19] |
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Namworld | http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html | [07:22] |
Namworld | I haven't seen the orderbook looking bearish like that since forever. | [07:23] |
Chaang-Noi | still we are over $40 we were 12 at the new year | [07:23] |
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Chaang-Noi | that site wont load for me | [07:23] |
Chaang-Noi | im damn pleased with anything stable over 30 | [07:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0046 = 0.92 BTC [-] | [07:24] |
Chaang-Noi | but then i bought in at 3.5 :/ | [07:24] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [07:34] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.75068, Best ask: 41.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24932, Last trade: 40.75068, 24 hour volume: 181704.41636332, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.68779 | [07:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14351396 = 143.514 BTC [-] | [07:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.1597016 = 159.7016 BTC [-] | [07:42] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [07:42] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.93627, Best ask: 41.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06373, Last trade: 41.00000, 24 hour volume: 181664.32887886, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.68317 | [07:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17755199 = 177.552 BTC [-] | [07:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.19711386 = 197.1139 BTC [-] | [07:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.21844012 = 218.4401 BTC [-] | [07:42] |
Bowjob | My TX wont confirm | [07:47] |
Bowjob | wtf | [07:47] |
Bowjob | nvm it confirmed now. 2 hour wait | [07:47] |
Bowjob | with tx | [07:47] |
Bowjob | lol | [07:47] |
Namworld | yeah | [07:52] |
Namworld | I received one with 0 fees... it's just not getting included at all no matter how long I wait... | [07:53] |
Namworld | stupid no fee | [07:53] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-] | [07:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-] | [07:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.20704 BTC [-] | [07:55] |
Bowjob | should raise the min fee on dice | [07:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+] | [07:56] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-X-Au9HrmI&feature=youtu.be | [08:02] |
mircea_popescu | check out about minute 3 | [08:02] |
mircea_popescu | keiser really likes bitcoin | [08:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00074252 = 9.5785 BTC [-] | [08:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00073731 = 1.2903 BTC [-] | [08:03] |
ThickAsThieves | https://btct.co/security/CRYPTO-TRADE | [08:04] |
ThickAsThieves | that's $160,000 USD for 20% of profits in IPO | [08:04] |
ThickAsThieves | thems some big britches | [08:04] |
ThickAsThieves | mp, this guy is following your PR advice http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,1125.msg7813.html#msg7813 | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | 4k btc ? | [08:10] |
ThickAsThieves | yep | [08:10] |
ThickAsThieves | is what they want | [08:11] |
ThickAsThieves | suatmm | [08:11] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [08:12] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [08:12] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50540, Best ask: 41.54691, Bid-ask spread: 0.04151, Last trade: 41.54691, 24 hour volume: 185495.99289508, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.64250 | [08:12] |
mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [08:12] |
gribble | Time since last block: 3 minutes and 59 seconds | [08:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00075 = 13.2375 BTC [+] | [08:16] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [08:22] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.96634, Best ask: 41.96636, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 41.96634, 24 hour volume: 185593.98262870, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.64002 | [08:22] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [08:30] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.10081, Best ask: 42.10082, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 42.10082, 24 hour volume: 185130.68959519, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.63475 | [08:30] |
Bowjob | we need satoshi to go back | [08:32] |
Bowjob | and fix the blocksize limit | [08:33] |
mircea_popescu | let people add tx fees. | [08:41] |
Bowjob | just like the dude who sent 94 BTC as tx fee | [08:43] |
mircea_popescu | lol tya | [08:44] |
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Chaang-Noi | any word on gox? | [08:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13424 @ 0.00075 = 10.068 BTC [+] | [08:46] |
Bowjob | wheres that topic again | [08:47] |
Bowjob | of the dude who sent 94 BTC as tx | [08:47] |
Namworld | I want to see that one | [08:50] |
mircea_popescu | bah bitcoincharts is crashed so bad | [08:56] |
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maximian | who can think that BTC is ready for primetime with all these service failures | [09:07] |
maximian | needs another year in the oven | [09:07] |
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mircea_popescu | maximian indeed. | [09:10] |
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Chaang-Noi | about gox... | [09:16] |
Chaang-Noi | [09:16] | |
Chaang-Noi | [09:16] | |
Chaang-Noi | [09:16] | |
Chaang-Noi | [09:16] | |
Chaang-Noi | [09:16] | |
saulimus | improve what? | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | their 10 minute to half hour execution delay | [09:21] |
Chaang-Noi | if you get a trade done in 30 mins seems you are lucky :/ | [09:21] |
Chaang-Noi | however now it is starting to flow a bit | [09:22] |
mircea_popescu | ya, people went to bed | [09:22] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah, i should too but its 2pm | [09:22] |
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Ukto | https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.ASICMINER-PT <-- graphs are now on a 15 sec live feed. no more refreshing to see trades | [09:47] |
TradeFortress | Ukto, does the orderbook refill too? | [09:48] |
Ukto | it will soon | [09:48] |
Ukto | alot easier now | [09:48] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [09:48] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.08002, Best ask: 42.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31998, Last trade: 42.40000, 24 hour volume: 177673.50153615, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.48382 | [09:48] |
Ukto | with the changes i setup tonight | [09:48] |
Ukto | I was just taking a quick break from the big project | [09:48] |
Bowjob | I call that.. the bear trap | [09:48] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [10:01] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.20000, Best ask: 42.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 42.20000, 24 hour volume: 177432.50058775, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.47390 | [10:01] |
Bowjob | ;;goxlag | [10:04] |
gribble | 441.561708 seconds | [10:04] |
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Enky | 440 sec lag? eternity... | [10:10] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [10:18] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7411 @ 0.0046 = 34.0906 BTC [-] | [10:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00469999 = 1.8283 BTC [+] | [10:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0048 = 5.76 BTC [+] | [10:32] |
oizotov | ;;ticker | [10:32] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.90001, Best ask: 42.95100, Bid-ask spread: 0.05099, Last trade: 42.90001, 24 hour volume: 175372.31802034, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.41063 | [10:32] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+] | [10:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+] | [10:40] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [10:43] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01590, Best ask: 44.12068, Bid-ask spread: 0.10478, Last trade: 44.01590, 24 hour volume: 177965.13484133, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.40520 | [10:43] |
Chaang-Noi | movement at gox, and the direction is up | [10:44] |
Bowjob | The bear trap | [10:50] |
pizzaman1337 | ;;goxlag | [10:52] |
gribble | 0.687269 seconds | [10:52] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [10:57] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.17120, Best ask: 44.20001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02881, Last trade: 44.39000, 24 hour volume: 177233.90169868, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.37772 | [10:57] |
Bowjob | not bad | [10:57] |
Anduck | well | [10:57] |
Anduck | IT SHOULD BE 60 USD ALREDY | [10:57] |
Anduck | BUY BUY BUY | [10:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00075 = 7.5 BTC [+] | [10:59] |
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mircea_popescu | lol rebound ? | [11:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.65 = 12.35 BTC [-] | [11:15] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00075 = 37.5 BTC [+] | [11:16] |
Chaang-Noi | mp hard to say if gox is even working | [11:16] |
Chaang-Noi | for all we know gox is hand picking the trades | [11:16] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [11:17] |
mircea_popescu | mpoe hasn't been quoting for like 6 hours because it can't get a coherent feed | [11:17] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitcoinity.org/markets bitcoinity is back online at least. | [11:19] |
Anduck | i heard mpex got ddos'd | [11:19] |
mircea_popescu | Anduck still going. | [11:19] |
Anduck | well, anything you will do to stop it? | [11:19] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [11:20] |
Anduck | absorb it somewhere | [11:20] |
Anduck | call ISP for dat? | [11:20] |
mircea_popescu | they've been playing muscial chairs for what, 12 hours now ? | [11:20] |
Anduck | so your isp dont know how to absorb a ddos? | [11:20] |
mircea_popescu | is this some topic you fancy yourself an expert in ? | [11:21] |
Anduck | no | [11:21] |
Anduck | but isp should know how to fix it | [11:21] |
Anduck | its shitty job but they should get it done by now | [11:21] |
mircea_popescu | sorta like the doctor should know how to make you healthy, right ? | [11:22] |
Anduck | well i am 100% sure i know way more about these things than you do. | [11:22] |
mircea_popescu | what difference does it make anyway ? you're so desperate to read my blog today rather than tomorrow ? | [11:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33317 = 0.6663 BTC [-] | [11:22] |
Anduck | no but it's just funny cuz you said "mpex cant be taken down" | [11:22] |
Anduck | or smth similar - in your blog, yes | [11:22] |
mircea_popescu | i said it's immune to ddos. which it is. | [11:23] |
Anduck | is it unusable right now-+- | [11:23] |
Anduck | ? | [11:23] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [11:23] |
Anduck | ok | [11:23] |
mircea_popescu | can't you see it trading lol | [11:23] |
Anduck | not really | [11:23] |
Anduck | where would i see that? | [11:23] |
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mircea_popescu | [11:23] | |
mircea_popescu | https://twitter.com/mpex1 | [11:24] |
Anduck | ok | [11:24] |
mircea_popescu | that's kinda the idea. i saidf before a government couldn't take it down. | [11:25] |
mircea_popescu | today is the proof. ddos it ? fine. so ? | [11:25] |
mircea_popescu | who cares. | [11:25] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 134 @ 0.0007 = 0.0938 BTC [-] | [11:26] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.00182 = 0.0273 BTC [-] | [11:27] |
Anduck | !ticker m s.mpoe | [11:28] |
Anduck | duhh | [11:28] |
assbot | The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. | [11:28] |
Anduck | mircea_popescu: where can i see bid/ask of s.mpoe? | [11:28] |
mircea_popescu | "S.MPOE": {"1d": {"avg": "74815.940534","min": "69034","max": "75000","vsh": "4149547","vsa": "310452261595","cnt": "41"}, "7d": {"avg": "74981.9993279","min": "69034","max": "78628","vsh": "11012234","vsa": "825719322387","cnt": "218"}, "30d": {"avg": "68500.398679","min": "61530","max": "78628","vsh": "65503018","vsa": "4486982847676","cnt": "5975"}}, | [11:29] |
Anduck | ty | [11:29] |
maximian | also http://mpex.coinbr.com/ | [11:30] |
maximian | which is also in the channel topic :) | [11:30] |
Anduck | mircea_popescu: did someone buy s.mpoe a lot? | [11:30] |
mircea_popescu | past few days yeah | [11:30] |
Anduck | i think i saw it at like 0.00060 or smth | [11:30] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00986 = 0.0197 BTC [-] | [11:30] |
mircea_popescu | i put a 10mn shares block up at 75 monday | [11:30] |
mircea_popescu | and it's all but gone | [11:30] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 48 @ 0.00982 = 0.4714 BTC [-] | [11:31] |
Anduck | you took the wall off? | [11:31] |
mircea_popescu | no, it was bought | [11:31] |
Anduck | no way all 10,000,000 was bought? | [11:32] |
Anduck | gz! | [11:32] |
BitHub | Hey, i'm with my friend and he wants to know how did Satoshi gain his powers? | [11:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.01552 = 0.0621 BTC [-] | [11:32] |
Anduck | he talked to me. | [11:32] |
mircea_popescu | like 500k left | [11:32] |
BitHub | he doesn't believe me that sataoshi blew himself up with his mind | [11:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1394 = 0.2788 BTC [-] | [11:34] |
mircea_popescu | Mtgox trading engine lag: 10.51s | [11:34] |
mircea_popescu | it almost caught up actually. | [11:34] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [11:34] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01000, Best ask: 44.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 44.50000, 24 hour volume: 173347.40604858, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.30310 | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 58800 @ 0.0048 = 282.24 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5851 @ 0.0055 = 32.1805 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00564998 = 5.65 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005769 = 2.3076 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 157 @ 0.005779 = 0.9073 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.005789 = 1.0941 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2504 @ 0.00578949 = 14.4969 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00579999 = 2.9 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00579999 = 5.8 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9376 @ 0.00584168 = 54.7716 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 223 @ 0.00588401 = 1.3121 BTC [+] | [11:35] |
maximian | s.dice not dead after all :) | [11:35] |
mircea_popescu | just needed to meditate a little lol | [11:36] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00596 BTC [+] | [11:38] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00597 = 0.0597 BTC [+] | [11:39] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] | [11:39] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00545 = 0.1363 BTC [-] | [11:43] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.00599 = 0.1138 BTC [+] | [11:44] |
Anduck | hey | [11:44] |
Anduck | did asicminer pay divs? | [11:44] |
Anduck | -again- | [11:44] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00545 = 0.0273 BTC [-] | [11:44] |
mircea_popescu | ya like 19 iirc | [11:44] |
Anduck | ij | [11:44] |
Anduck | ok | [11:44] |
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Chaang-Noi | so are we back to normal at gox, vol is okay? | [11:50] |
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mircea_popescu | 10 secondish | [11:52] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah but is trade volume back, i can live with that delay | [11:52] |
Chaang-Noi | when downloading the block chain, will more than 4 ram spead it up or is it only the cpu that matters? | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu | disk is the bottleneck iirc | [11:55] |
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Chaaang-Noi | http://pokerfuse.com/features/in-depth/winpoker-bitcoin-comes-worlds-largest-online-poker-network-ipoker-06-03/ fuuuuck yeah | [11:58] |
maximian | mircea_popescu where is that list of proxies again? mpex.coinbr.com isn't responding for me (I hope juror isn't under attack now) | [12:02] |
maximian | jurov I should say | [12:02] |
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Namworld | both mpex.coinbr.com and mpex.co seem unavailable now. | [12:09] |
Namworld | Someone is really DDoS'ing everything | [12:09] |
dub | ;;tslb | [12:10] |
gribble | Time since last block: 3 minutes and 35 seconds | [12:10] |
maximian | yeah looks like coinbr.com is getting the DDoS treatment | [12:10] |
Namworld | Who the fuck has time to DDoS stuff anyway | [12:10] |
maximian | someone who's really, really pissed off at MP | [12:11] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.00599 = 0.2516 BTC [+] | [12:11] |
dub | probably extortion | [12:12] |
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maximian | MP should have received a demand by now | [12:13] |
Namworld | extortion seems possible | [12:13] |
Namworld | If no one ever pays extortion, there goes the incentive. Anti-DDoS measures are more cost effective. | [12:14] |
mircea_popescu | hey all. | [12:19] |
mircea_popescu | mpex servers will be offline for a few hours. we are reconfiguring the router system, putting in new optics | [12:19] |
mircea_popescu | and doing a lot of other overhauling. | [12:19] |
mircea_popescu | no need to panic, all data is safe, by the time this is done mpex will have 10gb dedicated. | [12:20] |
mircea_popescu | and a few other perks. | [12:20] |
Namworld | 10 Gbps? | [12:20] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [12:20] |
Namworld | Seems massive. | [12:20] |
Namworld | Good thing. | [12:20] |
mircea_popescu | hey. 1gb x2 seemed massive. | [12:20] |
Namworld | I'll hog 2 or 3 all for myself. | [12:21] |
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mircea_popescu | to avoid any possible inconsistencies in dbases i am taking the ordering offline tho. | [12:21] |
mircea_popescu | data may still be visible for a little bit. | [12:21] |
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maximian | great | [12:22] |
Namworld | Guess I'll go sleep and get back to trading tomorrow then. | [12:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6616 @ 0.00073732 = 4.8781 BTC [-] | [12:22] |
Namworld | Goodbye. | [12:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00073731 = 2.0895 BTC [-] | [12:22] |
mircea_popescu | i'm going to sleep too. techs have it from here. | [12:22] |
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jurov | hello | [12:26] |
jurov | coinbr has network dificulties, but it doesn't look like attack | [12:27] |
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oizotov | ;;ticker | [12:29] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.65507, Best ask: 43.99100, Bid-ask spread: 0.33593, Last trade: 43.65507, 24 hour volume: 169564.38034507, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.22189 | [12:29] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [12:31] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.50000, Best ask: 43.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 43.54000, 24 hour volume: 170125.43926848, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.22377 | [12:31] |
Ukto | BF last 24hrs, over 450btc vol | [12:32] |
BitHub | BF ticker :) | [12:33] |
jurov | so mpex is completely offline now, right? | [12:38] |
kakobrekla | you can send a sign order via snail mail | [12:39] |
kakobrekla | singed | [12:39] |
jurov | okay... just situational awareness | [12:39] |
jurov | and next time i meet Namworld i do something nasty to him | [12:40] |
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jurov | he knows coinbr is on bitvps, plus i reminded him yest | [12:40] |
jurov | but he was talking about it being attacked as if it was no concern for him | [12:41] |
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mircea_popescu | sooo what's new ? | [19:28] |
deadweasel | a bunch of emotionally drained bitcoin crazed monkeys. | [19:30] |
deadweasel | so nothing new. | [19:30] |
mircea_popescu | haha sounds about right | [19:30] |
mircea_popescu | jurov did you get nuked in the end ? | [19:30] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18001 BTC [-] | [19:34] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18001 BTC [-] | [19:34] |
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jurov | mircea_popescu, it's still not clear it it was really me | [19:38] |
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mircea_popescu | lol mkay | [19:39] |
mircea_popescu | CoinBr under maintenance/overhaul, should be available before March 8. Contact us on support()coinbr.com . | [19:40] |
mircea_popescu | i get that much. | [19:40] |
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jurov | well, this is new server. the original one is not reachable | [19:40] |
mircea_popescu | o | [19:40] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [19:40] |
jurov | should it stay unreachable, i'll install everything there | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | it's funny, last year the forum crowd was all aggitated about "o, da gubbinmint" | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | i knew then that it's not the freaking government that'll be the issue on the midterm. | [19:41] |
mod6 | yeah, I might give out my second neg rating to Luke-Jr | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | why Luke-Jr ? | [19:43] |
mod6 | all his nonsense about SD spamming the blockchain | [19:43] |
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mod6 | and the fact that he published some mining code that breaks protocol and promotes it to other miners. | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | ya well, attention ho. | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | retaliatory rating if some idiot negs you i can see | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | going out of your way to politically rate people... meh. not so much. | [19:44] |
mod6 | i dunno what to call it if I rate him down, but im tired of this shit. | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | what difference does it make to you tho ? there's going to be an onion in any soup | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | do you mind that it's called Luke-Jr or whatever else ? | [19:45] |
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mod6 | i can't articulate myself enough -- im just against all his SD blockchain spamming bullshit | [19:46] |
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mircea_popescu | hey, most people are | [19:47] |
Luke-Jr | you'd rather see SD flood Bitcoin to death | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | well... not as much against as amused. | [19:47] |
mod6 | i've been reading all this btctalk stuff today, and he's just wrong about SD spamming. just because he'd design SD differently.... or believes that gambling is immoral because he loves jesus. | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | Luke-Jr dude, still with this ? sd is the only thing happening on bitcoin, forget about it already. | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | o, is it a loving bejezuz issue really ? | [19:48] |
error4733 | if blockchain can't support SD now, what happen with 1M user ? | [19:49] |
Luke-Jr | no, it's a mod6-is-a-troll issue | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | this wouldn't be by any chance related to the girl bitchslapping that hearn muppet earlier, would it ? | [19:49] |
mod6 | im not trolling shit motherfucker | [19:49] |
Luke-Jr | error4733: 1M user with 1000 tx/sec is easier than 10 users with 1000 tx/sec | [19:49] |
error4733 | all bs, erik is right, better now than to late | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | 1M user with 1000 tx/sec is easier than 10 users with 1000 tx/sec <<< you can't even distinguish users apart. | [19:50] |
Luke-Jr | error4733: 1mil users can provide infra for 1000 tx/sec; what we have today, no way | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | i can make 1mn txs right now, you won't be able to produce an accurate usercount. | [19:50] |
Luke-Jr | mircea_popescu: it's easy. just go to #bitcoin and ask SD players to PM you. | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | hahaha, if you think retail users will run that braindamaged abomination called "the bitcoin client" you're off your rocker. | [19:50] |
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mircea_popescu | if there were 1mn users drawn to bitcoin because of satoshi dice, they'd just run piuk's wallet into the ground, and you'd whine about how "blockchain is spamming the network" | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | this sort of internecine bullshit may be appropriate in fringe churches of weird and other midwestern concerns | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | but it does not belong in technology. technology is for smart people. | [19:52] |
Luke-Jr | I don't care who it is, if they flood the network it's miners' job to filter them out | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | you literally have no idea what you are talking about. | [19:53] |
Luke-Jr | mircea_popescu: you'd better leave then | [19:53] |
Luke-Jr | after all, technology is for smart people.. | [19:53] |
Luke-Jr | not anarchist lunatics who can't figure out the most obvious legal scenario | [19:53] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [19:53] |
mod6 | smh | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | listen, how do you figure you're a mioner anyway | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | best i can make out you're a concern troll with a checkered past. | [19:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4298 @ 0.00072873 = 3.1321 BTC [-] | [19:54] |
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mircea_popescu | looking through the forum digests this is motherfucking sad | [20:01] |
mod6 | i mean seriously | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | Gateway capacity trouble at Coinbase? Is anyone else having problems with Bitme deposits? Mt.Gox Payment system problem What the fuck Bitfinex? MtGox should halt trading when Order Lag time is this long. Anyone's bitfloor deposits working? | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | it's like fucking extravaganza. | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | and the cherry on top, Website performance is going to be the bane of many n00bs when it's time to sell | [20:02] |
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mircea_popescu | dude i dunno about noobs. it'd be the bane of me. | [20:02] |
deadweasel | bugpowder and I were all jammed up about goxlag of 10 minutes | [20:03] |
deadweasel | it was a learning opportunity | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | heh. i think the lag reporting was laggy | [20:04] |
mod6 | heheh | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | at some point they were pasting half hour old trades out of order into the feed | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | classical meltdown. | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | actually it looked a lot like nasdaq when facebook. | [20:04] |
Diablo-D3 | lol goxlag | [20:04] |
BTCTrader2 | what are people using for cli? is it faster? | [20:06] |
jurov | mircea_popescu , is there any place for mpex chinese/pakistani users to inquiry about the outage? | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | jurov here basically. | [20:07] |
jurov | one dude came and seemd completely out of his mind | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | have him join the chan it can be explained to him. | [20:07] |
deadweasel | which one? | [20:07] |
deadweasel | Rick___? | [20:07] |
jurov | yes. he's gone now. | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | awww that poor dude was sending me crazed messages too. | [20:08] |
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mircea_popescu | but to sum up the situation, cause i imagine many people are curious : | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | mpex consists of a trade server and webservers which the users talk to. | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | if you look at it practically these webservers are practically proxies. | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | there is five of them sharing two gigabit uplinks through a balancer. | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | the first time mpex was ddosed in january the attack took out the actual datacenter top level router. | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | there were two more layers of routing to get to the router that handled the webservers. | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | now, the reason admittedly was that the thing was a little old and kidna loaded. but still. | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | so at that time i split the tubes up north/east, and started a bunch of proxies | [20:11] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov was hosting one, for instance. | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | since the attack started yesterday a total of 100+ of these were taken offline. | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | granted, it's not easy to blow up a small shared setup like that. | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | but somebody did have the determination to spend a day and a half looking for them, setting up the ddosing for them individually bla bla. | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | the thing with that system is that it works by division. if there's 100 of them there jurov can stay online. | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | if there's 9 left the remainder ddos is available to hit him | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | i could allow anyone to start a proxy right now, the trade server is fine, etc. the problem is | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | you'd be nuked in half an hour or something, and it's just hassle. | [20:14] |
imsaguy | mmm, shake n bake | [20:14] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [20:14] |
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mircea_popescu | now, a humongo 10gb dedicated solution is being set up as we speak | [20:14] |
mircea_popescu | i had this sort-of prepared, but not actually provisioned and ready because the shit is expensive | [20:14] |
imsaguy | so you're having more babies to win the war? | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | basically. | [20:15] |
Diablo-D3 | heh | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | imsaguy the alternative is handle mpex trades by email. | [20:15] |
Diablo-D3 | email, the original next generation mail queue | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | yep. | [20:16] |
imsaguy | how about mpex trades via telnet? | [20:16] |
imsaguy | :D | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | to what ip ? | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | see, mail is diffuse. | [20:16] |
imsaguy | 127.0.0.1 | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:16] |
Diablo-D3 | I wonder if that makes uunet the original original message queue | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 prolly. | [20:16] |
imsaguy | how about mpex over irc? | [20:16] |
Diablo-D3 | fuck we need uunet back | [20:16] |
Diablo-D3 | that shit was baus | [20:16] |
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imsaguy | let freenode get ddos | [20:16] |
imsaguy | I hear they like that | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | imsaguy the problem is irc doesn't handle pgp so well | [20:16] |
imsaguy | yes it does | [20:16] |
imsaguy | ask gribble | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | (and i don't think they have enough to cope, but maybe) | [20:17] |
Diablo-D3 | I could name a box "chicks" and name a user "i" | [20:17] |
imsaguy | :) | [20:17] |
Diablo-D3 | and it'd be funny | [20:17] |
imsaguy | people pastebin the pgp | [20:17] |
imsaguy | feed the bot the raw url | [20:17] |
imsaguy | simple as pie | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | imsaguy yeah. last i talked to nanotube he was like "i don't want this in production handling opm" | [20:17] |
imsaguy | I'm not saying graft onto gribble | [20:17] |
imsaguy | I'm saying clone | [20:17] |
imsaguy | steal the concept | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | dawg... | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | fuck you srsly. | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | why didn't i think opf that | [20:17] |
imsaguy | dee oh gee | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | people can just paste a pastebin link or w/e | [20:18] |
Diablo-D3 | oh em gee | [20:18] |
imsaguy | derp | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:18] |
imsaguy | and then the bot filters anything not formed as url | [20:18] |
imsaguy | thats the first line | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | imsaguy wanna code an irc proxy for me ? | [20:18] |
imsaguy | second line is it only parses text | [20:18] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: dude, just use perl | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | all you have to do is take urls from people and feed them into server as pgp strings | [20:18] |
imsaguy | no, just fork gribble | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | so fork gribble, i dun care. | [20:19] |
imsaguy | the code for reading pastebin to gpg | [20:19] |
imsaguy | its already written | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | im trying to hire you over here ;/ | [20:19] |
imsaguy | what's it pay? | [20:19] |
imsaguy | gypsie man | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | pm. | [20:19] |
jurov | waitwhat? ppl will publish urls to encrypted orders on irc to be picked up by mpoe bot? | [20:20] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov yup | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | i like this chan, srsly. | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | ppl are facepalming left and right around me | [20:22] |
imsaguy | working on it now | [20:22] |
jurov | lol you should accept clearsigned orders, too, then. | [20:24] |
jurov | unencrypted | [20:24] |
jurov | moar phun | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | nah. | [20:25] |
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Chilca | mircea_popescu: Can I help you guys with the infrastructure for the site? | [20:28] |
wiggzz | so coinbr and mpex are down? | [20:28] |
mircea_popescu | wiggzz atm, yes. | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | Chilca do you have a gb+ pipe you can play with ? | [20:29] |
wiggzz | ok. no worries, thanks | [20:29] |
Chilca | mircea_popescu: are you having a DDOS attack? what's the problem. | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | yes. read up the chat i just explained it 5 minutes ago | [20:29] |
Chilca | let me read it | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | o you just joined huh. brb pastebin | [20:29] |
Chilca | I just joined. Pastebin will be great | [20:30] |
mod6 | Any paste or usage pattern not related to that goal which results in unusually high traffic will be flagged for investigation. | [20:30] |
mod6 | this could become a problem | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 they can use their own domains tho | [20:31] |
mod6 | as well, is it a good idea to store everyones cyphertexts indefinately? | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | http://pastebin.com/8dWy851p Chilca wiggzz | [20:31] |
jcpham | yes thank you my vps is fubar | [20:31] |
jcpham | bee tee double you | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 now that i don't know. | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | but if someone breaks pgp in 2049, what do they get ? a lot of BUY|S.BLABLA|350|45000 ? | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham y-double-y-cum. | [20:32] |
jcpham | switzerland is down | [20:32] |
jcpham | too many bandwidths | [20:32] |
jcpham | angry netizens | [20:32] |
mod6 | yea. i just figure maybe having our asses hanging in the breeze is a great oppertunity for the NSA to try to extract data on a sort of chosen cypertext attack | [20:33] |
imsaguy | that why you expire the pastebin | [20:33] |
imsaguy | it only needs to live for <10 minutes | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 listen, the pastebins would be encrypted with mpex key | [20:33] |
mod6 | ok imsaguy, that should work | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | if they get anywhere they broke pgp. | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | because | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | you can take a string and encrypt it with mpex key right now | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | locally | [20:33] |
jurov | jcpham, now imagine they could have started resolving it 6 hours earlier | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | for one trillion times | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | jurov no cause i was sleeping. | [20:34] |
jurov | if namworld was able to remember that coinbr in on bitvps | [20:34] |
mod6 | *nod* im with you. | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | and contrary to what everyone thinks, great ideas also need sane management to get anywhere. | [20:34] |
jurov | mircea i'm speaking about bitvps to jcpham | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | o i got confused :D | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | sorry. | [20:34] |
jcpham | sorry jurov | [20:35] |
jurov | can't get over it... namworld said "o mpex.coinbr.com has problems, prolly ddos" and he went to sleep | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:35] |
jcpham | my opinion of switzerland is that it is not for critical stuff | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | wasn't exactly like that lol | [20:35] |
jurov | despite i did tell him it's to be expected | [20:35] |
mod6 | im not even sure I ever noticed the pastebin expire time lol | [20:36] |
Chilca | do you guys have a firewall on top the servers? | [20:36] |
mod6 | this is a pretty sweet idea tho imsaguy | [20:36] |
imsaguy | lol | [20:36] |
imsaguy | Chilca, first ddos? | [20:36] |
imsaguy | mod6, I'm pretty stupid, most of the time | [20:37] |
imsaguy | but the rest of the time, I try to make up for it. | [20:37] |
mod6 | naw | [20:37] |
mod6 | werd :) | [20:37] |
Chilca | imsaguy: In my company we use radware to stop ddos. | [20:37] |
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Chilca | I can talk with the CEO and he can ship one to your dc if you want. | [20:37] |
Chilca | for free | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | that's a nice thought, but | [20:39] |
imsaguy | its hosted out of his bedroom | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | in the middle of installing gear so might not be the best time | [20:39] |
imsaguy | I doubt you want in that dungeon | [20:39] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42424242 BTC [+] | [20:42] |
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jurov | oh my | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | dudes not paying attention are they. | [20:43] |
jurov | yea, after 8 hours | [20:44] |
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jcpham | i could've told them coinbr was going to get ddos'd yesterday | [20:45] |
jcpham | it seems like maybe you attemtped to notify them | [20:45] |
jurov | i told namworld myself. but he's just not the right person for that. | [20:46] |
imsaguy | !mpex url email | [20:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.495 = 9.9 BTC [+] | [20:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+] | [20:49] |
dub | ;;ticker | [20:49] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50001, Best ask: 42.69899, Bid-ask spread: 0.19898, Last trade: 42.50001, 24 hour volume: 174284.00806825, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 48.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.65273 | [20:49] |
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nanotube | mircea_popescu: should be pretty trivial to set up an irc bot that just takes user input and passes it along to your server. if you set it up with a cloak, attackers can't even know its ip. | [21:17] |
nanotube | so they'd have to take down all of freenode. | [21:18] |
nanotube | and if you use gribble/supy as base, it by default limits number of commands per user per time, so they can't even flood it out. | [21:18] |
jurov | nanotube, imsaguy is on it | [21:18] |
nanotube | jurov: ah cool :) | [21:19] |
imsaguy | nanotube: pgp over irc | [21:22] |
imsaguy | PITA | [21:22] |
imsaguy | :) | [21:22] |
nanotube | imsaguy: heh well, just have it take a pastebin link, and pass it along to mpex. | [21:23] |
nanotube | should be trivial | [21:23] |
imsaguy | but then mpex passes pgp back :p | [21:24] |
imsaguy | thats the poitn of ddos | [21:24] |
nanotube | well, mpex passes back another pastebin link | [21:24] |
nanotube | easy peasy | [21:24] |
nanotube | unless they ddos pastebin.com | [21:24] |
imsaguy | :) | [21:24] |
nanotube | but there are so many pastebins out there, you can easily cycle among them | [21:24] |
imsaguy | they all use captcha | [21:24] |
Diablo-D3 | PASTEBINCLOUD | [21:25] |
Diablo-D3 | lawlz | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | nanotube it shall be done. | [21:25] |
nanotube | some provide apis for pasting. like paste.debian | [21:25] |
Diablo-D3 | sounds like the shit devcoin does | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | this of course has no bearing on the new pipe coming online. | [21:25] |
nanotube | mircea_popescu: make sure to have the bot communicate with another secret proxy, not core server. so if bot is cracked open, they only discover one of your proxies, not real location. | [21:25] |
dub | pastebin.com was hosed yesterday | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | nanotube yes. | [21:25] |
nanotube | also, another option, mircea_popescu : set up an amazon ec instance. they give you unlimited BW, only care about disk and cpu usage. | [21:26] |
nanotube | so if all it does is take requests and pass them on | [21:26] |
nanotube | you don't have to pay | [21:26] |
nanotube | (much) | [21:26] |
imsaguy | the cpu can get costly if its being bogged | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | nanotube a coupla of the proxies were on amazon | [21:26] |
jurov | amazon ec, exactly what i'm doing. cool shit. | [21:26] |
nanotube | hmm | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | im too busy to investigate exactly wtf happned to them right now | [21:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.51 = 9.69 BTC [+] | [21:27] |
nanotube | heh ic | [21:27] |
mircea_popescu | and not sure i actually care. | [21:27] |
nanotube | anyway, imsaguy let know if you need help. :) | [21:27] |
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deadweasel | mircea_popescu: keep your friends close... might want to sort out who/what this was | [21:29] |
deadweasel | help protectin the future. | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | deadweasel nah, i literally do not care. | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | understand : this was planned for. sooner or later someone was going to attack mpex. | [21:30] |
deadweasel | i can tell, fuckin' Rick James up in here | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | proving that mpex can't be effectually attacked is part of the game | [21:30] |
deadweasel | I'm Rich Bitch! | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | the attackers are on our team here. | [21:30] |
jurov | deadweasel, how would you do it? it can be half of btctalk | [21:30] |
jborkl | Hell, anyone not expecting this attack at some point was not paying attention | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl the only disputer was, "will it be government or not" | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | turns out not. so... heh. | [21:31] |
deadweasel | i don't know how to do it. | [21:31] |
deadweasel | i probably wouldn't care either. | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | just the fact that traders could close > 50k btc worth of option positions normally whiole mpex was being ddosed to hell | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | already speaks volumes. | [21:31] |
jborkl | yeah, a few months ago Bank of America got ddos for I think 3 days | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | that the bot later was w/o a feed cause mtgox went bananas is a diff story | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | but pain was avoided here. | [21:32] |
deadweasel | it was interesting to watch people show up here, get a proxy addy, then go trade. | [21:32] |
deadweasel | they were all jibberred up, then like, ok, i'm ok now. | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | cool, huh ? | [21:32] |
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jborkl | this was a really good test for MPEX | [21:32] |
deadweasel | very | [21:32] |
deadweasel | there are no problems, only opportunities | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, sure, i'm not keeping 10k worth of pipe as a hot and ready to go backup, i admit | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | on the other hand, i am getting it deployed, so. | [21:33] |
error4733 | mp, they ask something ? | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | not afaik. | [21:34] |
mjr_ | ugh, the discussion on the forums is so fucking silly | [21:35] |
mjr_ | its like they don't understand what "free market" means | [21:35] |
mircea_popescu | i don't think they understand a lot of things tbh | [21:35] |
mjr_ | i literally saw someone say "sdice actually gets the gambler to pay MORE fees, they should be banned" | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | some people were on a kick of "bitbet should charge less" | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | why ? | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | well... cause then it'd be less. | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | im like... yaok. | [21:36] |
jborkl | 99% of all people are retarded | [21:37] |
mjr_ | yes, because the miners should get less money? not to mention the fact that it's about people enjoying and using bitcoins...so you will take away a popular service to further your cause? | [21:37] |
mjr_ | fucking retarded | [21:37] |
jcpham | somewhere between the two "e" in free market, there is tiny subscript begging for gubment oversight | [21:37] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway, exciting stuff | [21:38] |
dub | mjr_: they're probably arguing the wrong thing but factually SD using the blockchain for accountign is retarded | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | thy name be bitcoin | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | dub mpex uses the blockchain for accounting a different way. | [21:38] |
mjr_ | dub: if they include fees fuck what they use it for | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | this is what the blockchain is : accounting | [21:38] |
dub | mjr_: sanest comparison I've seen was from this channel, imagine a casine where you had to cash out and back in after every bet | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | that's why it's called a ledger. | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | dub : accounts DO NOT WORK. | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | there is no such thing as "an account" | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | there is no such thing as "log in" | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | forget that braindamage. | [21:39] |
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mjr_ | yep it is only transactions | [21:39] |
mjr_ | although i can see your point about cashing in and out... | [21:40] |
mjr_ | and i think it is a good image | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | the reason you cash out after every bet is that there's no "you" | [21:40] |
mjr_ | i would think of it as...does the casino not calculate your payout after each hand? | [21:40] |
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mjr_ | you put money in, and then they push money back at you | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | thinking in terms of "you" and pretending to be involved in bitcoin is the ultimate lulz. | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | obviously it didn't sink in what bitcoin is. | [21:40] |
mjr_ | mircea: to be fair, i don't think that the protocol EXCLUDES the use of a layer on top of it that could replicate "accounts"... | [21:41] |
dub | the blockchain is not intented for this level of nanotransactions | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | mjr_ the protocol doesn't exclude it | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | but im motherfucking excluding it. it doesn't work. | [21:42] |
mjr_ | yes, that makes sense | [21:42] |
dub | if you had to pay for every grain of rice you bought individually with a CC, amex would crumble too | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | dub this is great. | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | the day we go in the marketplace with a workable solution that would crtumble amex | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | is the day we see usd/satoshi rates quoted | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | instead of usd/btc | [21:42] |
jborkl | Who said the blockchain is only for a certain transaction? | [21:43] |
mjr_ | dub: i feel that what they are saying is that "the blockchain shouldn't be used for individual grains of rice, so no rice for anyone" | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | moreover, who the fuck said what the blockchain is for ? | [21:43] |
jborkl | who decided this nonsense | [21:43] |
dub | jborkl: its design | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | the blockchain is for everything it works for. | [21:43] |
dub | derp | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | as long as it's useful for something, that's what it's for. | [21:43] |
mjr_ | i agree | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | natural law. | [21:43] |
mjr_ | it is like the internet | [21:43] |
dub | making it take up an unrealistic amount fo resource is goign to break it | [21:43] |
jborkl | then those people will quit | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | dub the only thing that's going to break it is pseudo-governmental posturing. | [21:44] |
mjr_ | what is the internet "designed" for? so university professors could share scholarly work | [21:44] |
dub | driving fees up to counter the problem is goign to kill adoption | [21:44] |
jcpham | m/join #bitcoin | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | nobody has license to come out with the sort of bullshit "shoulds" | [21:44] |
jcpham | FUDGEPACKER | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | the only shoulds here are the devs should stfu and fix bitcoind. | [21:44] |
dub | mjr_: yes and 'the internet' has fundamentally changed a few times to cope with scaling | [21:44] |
mjr_ | i think that there is what IS...what the market has decided | [21:44] |
mjr_ | dub: as will bitcoin | [21:44] |
jborkl | dub are you Luke? cause this sounds like his stupid logic | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl i think he's trying to make sense of that position. | [21:45] |
dub | jborkl: fuck you :) | [21:45] |
mjr_ | think about it this way | [21:45] |
jborkl | only biblethumperrs can use bitcoin | [21:45] |
jcpham | pretty sure dub and Luke-Jr are same person | [21:45] |
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mircea_popescu | jcpham troll. | [21:45] |
mjr_ | there is nothing stopping miners to band together and block whatever traffic they want to | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | you're grubles | [21:45] |
mjr_ | so if it is so important, they will | [21:45] |
jcpham | how did you figure it out mircea_popescu | [21:45] |
dub | mjr_: yes there is, economic incentive | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | mjr_ and yet nobody mines at elegius | [21:45] |
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jborkl | lol | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham i looked in the colon | [21:45] |
mjr_ | LOL | [21:45] |
jborkl | dead pool | [21:46] |
mjr_ | exactly, the free market has decided that sdice is a good thing | [21:46] |
jcpham | rectal exam, eh | [21:46] |
mjr_ | so it is | [21:46] |
dub | there is no such thing as free market | [21:46] |
mjr_ | there are all our individual choices | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | dub now there is. | [21:46] |
mjr_ | in aggregate | [21:46] |
jcpham | implying no such thing as free will | [21:46] |
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dub | to have a free market you need informed players | [21:46] |
mjr_ | the point is that no one can say "i want to shape the future of bitcoin" | [21:46] |
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mjr_ | no you don't | [21:46] |
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mjr_ | you just need players | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | sexy playas | [21:47] |
mjr_ | that is like saying "in natural selection you can only have fast deer" | [21:47] |
jborkl | That is fucking stupid to say, you only need participants | [21:47] |
jcpham | the only free market i know of is freicoin | [21:47] |
dub | we know from the abject failure of capitalism that there are not enough informed players to make it work | [21:47] |
mjr_ | hmmm yes | [21:47] |
dub | mining is the same | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | dub the only reason capitalism failed was because idiots with "should" abandoned it | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | to make "a better version" | [21:47] |
mjr_ | obviously america has not gotten a stranglehold over the world | [21:47] |
mjr_ | it hasn't worked for them AT ALL | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | the soviet union, the united soviets of america, the blabla | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | as long as people submit to natural law the take over the world. | [21:48] |
jborkl | you cant inflate bitcon 10 million percent now can you | [21:48] |
dub | mjr_: its not scaling | [21:48] |
jborkl | bitcoin | [21:48] |
jcpham | i'm pretty sure the united nations is an illuminati sect | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | as soon as they start thinking they know what *should* be what | [21:48] |
mjr_ | for anyone to say that the people who came up with this system didn't get what they want is retarded | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | ... blamo | [21:48] |
mjr_ | that is the point, if what you think "should" happen, then if it really should, it will...if it shouldn't it won't | [21:48] |
jcpham | Kim Dotcom is Satoshi Nakamoto in .... Point Break | [21:48] |
mjr_ | because if the majority agree...they do it, if they don't, you were wrong | [21:49] |
dub | the majority don't agree | [21:49] |
dub | the majority are not capable of participating | [21:49] |
jborkl | the majority with money agree, the rest dont count | [21:49] |
mjr_ | um...the fact that sdice transactions are included begs to differ | [21:49] |
dub | because they are stupid | [21:49] |
mjr_ | irrelevant | [21:49] |
dub | the are included now sure | [21:49] |
mjr_ | they verify the transactions | [21:49] |
mircea_popescu | [21:49] | |
mjr_ | so if the market decides to stop then they are right | [21:49] |
dub | the market wont decide to stop because teh mining 'market' is not informed | [21:50] |
dub | this has been shown plenty of times | [21:50] |
mjr_ | ok...so it is not important to them to stop this | [21:50] |
mjr_ | if it were | [21:50] |
dub | it will take a technical probelm to change them | [21:50] |
mjr_ | they would | [21:50] |
dub | which is hwat is happening | [21:50] |
mjr_ | ok, so let one come, and then they will adjust | [21:50] |
mjr_ | i see no problem | [21:50] |
mjr_ | transactions still working | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | lol the old holdout of marauding socialism | [21:51] |
dub | sure if you accept that 6 confs doesnt take an hour anymore | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | "the poor aren't voting to steal from the rich because they've not been sufficiently explaining the benefits of theft" | [21:51] |
mjr_ | seriously, why does everyone feel the need to nurture something that is bigger than them and smarter | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | "we gotta go out there and really inform them" | [21:51] |
dub | bitcoin adoption as a whole may not accept that | [21:51] |
jcpham | is atlas in here right now | [21:51] |
jcpham | is that what just happened | [21:51] |
mjr_ | my point is that everyone votes with their mining power | [21:51] |
dub | were people asleep yesterday? | [21:52] |
dub | did you notice it took all day to send coin? | [21:52] |
jborkl | only one person filters SD transactions that I know of, and his pool is dying | [21:52] |
jcpham | dub i got my txns in before noon central | [21:52] |
mjr_ | exactly | [21:52] |
jcpham | no delays | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl to be fair, they've been fading for a while | [21:52] |
jborkl | true | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | dub because of sdice ? | [21:52] |
jborkl | His point of view caused that | [21:52] |
dub | mircea_popescu: yes | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | oh get out | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | it was a small day for s.dice | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | this incidentallty shows clearly how misplaced all the sd trolling is. | [21:53] |
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dub | mircea_popescu: they raised their fee, pushing all their usually slow confirming txn to the front of the queue | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | the network works fine with sd. what it doesn't work fine with is the appalingly poor quality of coding | [21:53] |
jborkl | The new bitcoin client .8, uses all cpu cores correct- where .7 only used one? | [21:53] |
jarpiain | jborkl jcpham JimmyHo2 jurov JWU42 | [21:53] |
dub | mircea_popescu: it was teh tipping point for block size limit | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl i think so | [21:53] |
jborkl | so, as people upgrade clients- transactions get passed faster | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | dub for the arbitrarily stupid 250k block limit baked in | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | by the sort of idiots that also broke the way bitcoind creates txns | [21:54] |
dub | ok so we're back to the scaling argument | [21:54] |
jborkl | I changed my client to 500, it took like 5 seconds | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | basically, bitcoin needs actual devs. | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | no. | [21:54] |
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mircea_popescu | most of the people who had bitcoin for no reason are out, thanks to pirate and the other scasmmers | [21:54] |
mjr__ | anyways, i just am tired of hearing about what people "should" do | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | the problem is most of the people who think they're devs for no reason aren;t out yet. | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | but it will filter out. | [21:55] |
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mircea_popescu | people like gmaxwell, hearn, luke etc are just dead weight | [21:55] |
dub | that is very much part of the problem | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | taaki is already gone, | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | they're next | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | and so it goes. | [21:55] |
mjr__ | i don't think they are stupid necessarily | [21:55] |
dub | but is it easier to replace teh dev team or get SD to implement their own ledger | [21:55] |
mjr__ | i just think they are used to systems where they are in charge | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | dub you always remove the broken thing | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | you never fix the easy thing to "fix" | [21:56] |
dub | bullshit | [21:56] |
jborkl | you are trying to control one thing, what aboput the next thing | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | no, it's how it works. | [21:56] |
dub | jesus | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | dub there's no dealmaking here. | [21:56] |
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dub | that is laughable | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | if they suck they go | [21:56] |
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mjr__ | i am just saying, if you have the mining hardware, then your thoughts on this (actually your actions) may matter...no one else's opinion really does | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1596786#msg1596786 | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | jurov is rthat you ? | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | or do they mean me ? | [21:57] |
dub | mjr__: I'm not suggesting miners will exclude SD | [22:00] |
mjr__ | i take it you don't like the Soft BP? | [22:00] |
mjr__ | I am just tired of hearing about how bad sdice is | [22:00] |
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mjr__ | let's see...provided successful model for crowdsourcing anonymously? check | [22:01] |
dub | and romantic ideals aside, this is really just a question of, will the everyman use bitcoin if its p2p'ness goes away | [22:01] |
mjr__ | gave a lot of publicity to bitcoin? check | [22:01] |
mjr__ | brought in users? check | [22:01] |
dub | personally I think the problem will be solved differently | [22:02] |
dub | but there is a scaling problem due to SD, you can't argue against that | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | dub sd exposed bad coding in the bitcoin base. | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | i can agree with that much. | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | then again every practical use of prototype code will expose bad code | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | it's the fucking point | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | the idea is to take the correct dev attitude "o sorry we eat c0x. working to fix" | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | rather than the incorrect dev attitude of "so don't do that!" | [22:03] |
MobPhone | burnside you around | [22:03] |
Lyspooner | mpex.co is eating c0x, no? | [22:04] |
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mircea_popescu | Lyspooner yes. | [22:09] |
Lyspooner | that's the attitude! | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | now where was that pastebin | [22:09] |
Lyspooner | you see how it's done, people? | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | Lyspooner http://pastebin.com/8dWy851p | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | you missed out on all the fun | [22:10] |
mjr__ | oh nice | [22:10] |
mjr__ | mt gox finally got their websockets back up | [22:10] |
MobPhone | ! help | [22:10] |
MobPhone | hmm | [22:11] |
mjr__ | no space mobphone | [22:11] |
MobPhone | !help | [22:11] |
assbot | List of commands: | [22:11] |
assbot | !ticker |
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mjr__ | !ticker mpoe s.dice | [22:11] |
assbot | The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire. | [22:11] |
MobPhone | !ticker mpex | [22:11] |
assbot | These beans is shit. | [22:11] |
mjr__ | !ticker mpoe | [22:12] |
assbot | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. | [22:12] |
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mjr__ | !ticker s.mpoe | [22:12] |
assbot | Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'? | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | the correct syntax is !ticker m s.mpoe, but assbot is not talking to mpex atm. | [22:12] |
MobPhone | !ticker havelock | [22:12] |
assbot | Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way? | [22:12] |
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MobPhone | hmm | [22:12] |
dub | mircea_popescu: so in a free market world, you should be joining the foundation, lobbying for and funding your own devs to correct the problem | [22:12] |
mjr__ | if it was worth his time or if he found it worthwihle | [22:13] |
deadweasel | so we all eat c0x and hence improve. | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | http://pastebin.com/hUcC01nB here's a paste of the vwap page current | [22:13] |
MobPhone | mjr__ hello | [22:13] |
dub | its not like it would be unwelcome, gavin has tried to get rid of luke before | [22:13] |
mjr__ | that is the whole point of the free market, everyone does what they want | [22:13] |
FabianB | finding good devs is not easy | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | dub i am not joinint no bs foundation. | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | i am telling the devs what things are | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | if they don't follow i'm going to start my own devteam and fork bitcoin. | [22:13] |
dub | well do that then but its chosing the harder option | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | i like hard options. | [22:14] |
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mircea_popescu | and this is not about me either | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | the miners, the larger ones anyway, will be starting their own clients | [22:15] |
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dub | right, so much like we won't have teh market you percieve as free for much longer, bitcoin will stop working | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | maybe not this year, but the next or in 2015 for sure | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | it won't stop working. | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | it will stop caring about people's wishes tho. | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | to the degree that it does now, which is tenuous | [22:16] |
dub | yes that is the opnly option | [22:16] |
dub | stop carign about peoples wish for decentralisation and low fees | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | people's wish for low fees they can shove | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | fees will be exactly as high as the market will bear. | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | there's no room for the entitled poor in the new world. | [22:16] |
dub | its still kinda one of teh selling points | [22:17] |
dub | and with centralisation you extinguish the last facade of anonynimity | [22:17] |
dub | so you're gettign back to being a credit card | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | and people thought stalin was hardline. | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | mircea_popescu. more hardline than stalin. just... the other direction. | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | dub anonimity is doing fine. | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | it never existed to begin with. pseudonimity however is just as 100% as it always was. | [22:19] |
dub | we're not talkign about now | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | forever. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | in my estimation, asic mining wll be a lot more decentralised than gpu mining | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | which was VERY centralised, but by idiots | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | people like gigavps, amazingrando, hashking et all had a disproportionate share of power in the ecosystem | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | which they went and fucked up. | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | it was based on the shaky foundation of marginal personal ability, cause running a gpu farm is a logistic nightmare. | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | it did use the cheap "anyone can run a gpu" fud tactic, but in fact it was as centralised as it can get. | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | anyone can run an asic. so... que the end of that system. | [22:22] |
dub | its NO different | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | it's different in some ways at least. | [22:22] |
dub | not once teh generational change has completed | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | it will be a case of "he who has 1000 bucks gets a vote" | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | instead of "he who has 200 dollars and spends his time f5-ing amazon and knows how to make fire hazard pics in his basement" | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | i much prefer the former. it's cleaner. | [22:23] |
dub | im not following | [22:23] |
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mircea_popescu | well... where ? | [22:24] |
dub | you think mining will be more distributed with higher cost to play? | [22:24] |
dub | or more solo miners? | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | there will be a SMALLER cost to play. | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | it will however be cash upfront. | [22:24] |
dub | mining has been centralised since pools appeared | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | before the cost to play was, 200 bucks + 5k worth of computer competence. | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | now it's 1k bucks and a power outlet. | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | overall cost went down by 80% | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | it's just some people don't know how to account, and so the 5k "is free" | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | but let me put it this other way : | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | there are at least 100mn people in this world who can spend 1k dollars. | [22:26] |
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mircea_popescu | there are MAYBE 1mn people in this world who have the skills to run gpu rigs but do not have gainful employment | [22:26] |
miscreanity | asics are plug and play - gpus required a considerable amount of experise and se to manage | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | unsuirprisingly, they;'re mostly mental deffecrtive / weird / marginal doods. | [22:26] |
dub | bullshit | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | so our miner putative market increased by a factor of 10k% | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | dub hey, it may well be bullshit | [22:27] |
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mircea_popescu | but it's what i think on the matter. | [22:27] |
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deadweasel | I think we can all agree that the continued eating of c0x by all users/miners/devs will improve bitcoin or it's bastard children. | [22:28] |
dub | it sounds like youa re arguing that like gamers mining on their 1-2 gpus, a lot of randoms will decide to grab an asic and mine | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitcoinity.org/markets | [22:28] |
deadweasel | *its | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | do these graphs look right to anyone ?! | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | dub no. | [22:28] |
dub | reality is asic mining will centralise much more than gpu mining did | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | i am arguing that for every wanna-break the world kid / bank clerk who thinks he's a banker / duimbass kid who thinks writing "options" on a webpage makes him an options trader | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | that get pushed our mercilessly | [22:29] |
jurov | bitcoinity workd | [22:29] |
jurov | *works here | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | there will be 10 to 100 actual sane people | [22:29] |
dub | as soon as diff normalises its the same game | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | dub no because the cost to be the top dog will have went from own 500 items worth 200 each | [22:30] |
dub | either eek out a tiny margin on your gaming rig/hobby asic or go large | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | to own 50`000 items worth 1k each | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | so from 100k to 50mn | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | jurov it does work, but the graph looks like wtf. | [22:30] |
jborkl | instead of "he who has 200 dollars and spends his time f5-ing amazon and knows how to make fire hazard pics in his basement [22:30] |
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jurov | yes the debpth (bottom graph) is wtf in firefox. but in konqueror+webkit it's fine | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | and if you think people won't be buying asics at 1k a pop, let me tell you something : | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | when that hungarian scammer showed up it he was checked out the next day | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | by independent teams. | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | there is demand. come out with an inventory of asics you will sell 10-100k units in a month if you can actuyally deliver them. | [22:32] |
ZedsterX | ;;burnside | [22:32] |
gribble | Error: "burnside" is not a valid command. | [22:32] |
ZedsterX | ;;seen burnside | [22:32] |
gribble | burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 22 hours, and 30 seconds ago: |
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dub | mircea_popescu: exactly the same thing will happen as happened with gpu | [22:33] |
ZedsterX | i have been given a free scam lightning miner 4.0 unit | [22:34] |
jborkl | people that know what to do with them made money? | [22:34] |
dub | when people get sick of the heat, noise and earning $2/week they will get out | [22:34] |
dub | which will leave people who are doign ot as a business | [22:35] |
kakobrekla | funny, 100mhash revenue in euro dollars is same as 1 year ago give or take | [22:35] |
kakobrekla | http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php | [22:35] |
dub | sure for 10 minutes | [22:36] |
ThickAsThieves | what a captivating update... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1597133#msg1597133 | [22:36] |
deadweasel | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1597133#msg1597133 | [22:36] |
deadweasel | sry | [22:36] |
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dub | [22:39] | |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves does that say anything ?! | [22:39] |
jcpham | i've been debating whether or not to run more gpu/more fpga every day | [22:39] |
ThickAsThieves | i cant tell | [22:39] |
dub | I don't need to tell you that the only people who checked it out are serious miners | [22:39] |
jcpham | i'd really like to acquire 3x singles | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | you do need to tell me that so i can lol. | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | i had it checked out dood. im no miner at all. | [22:39] |
dub | a few extra mindless forum babies does not a decentralised verification network make | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | think about it : i am going to get a mining cluster which i will run for purely strategic reasons | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | mpex needs assurance that idiots like luke-jr stay irrelevant. | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | so will pretty much every single service built on top of bitcoin | [22:40] |
dub | stop being trite | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | then add the pro miners | [22:40] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.45 = 7.25 BTC [+] | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | then add all the people who want to run a 1k unit | [22:41] |
dub | if you got into mining you it would not be with one asic | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | dub i can calculate how many asics i need to have in order to guarantee my payments make it witin an arbitrary timeframe | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | this is basic provisioning. | [22:41] |
dub | yes which is beyond 90% of would be miners | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | so ? | [22:41] |
jcpham | strategic mining is a subject i like | [22:41] |
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mircea_popescu | jcpham i bet you in 2013 we will have special mining software allowing miner to issue orders much like ip routing tables | [22:42] |
ThickAsThieves | what is even being argued here? | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | "always include my txs, irrespective of fee" | [22:42] |
ThickAsThieves | whether there will be more and more prosumer miners? | [22:42] |
jcpham | hrm | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | "always include txs to these addies, if fee is x" | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | etc. | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | there will be a dedicated box preparing the mempool for mine rigs in most farms | [22:43] |
dub | so every bitcoin merchant has a mining farm to confirm its txn | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | dub yep. | [22:43] |
dub | hell, why not an altchain each | [22:43] |
jcpham | jeebus | [22:43] |
jcpham | i'm getting hella paid leasing my rigs then | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | dub if bitcoin fucks up you bet your sweet life an altchain each. | [22:43] |
jcpham | mining cooperatives are an excellent idea | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | the girl hinted as much at some point arguing with the hearn&co idiot parade. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham a revenue stream will be table leasing | [22:44] |
jcpham | even though everyone hates on it | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | people will pay you to include their rules. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | soon enough there will be a market for mempool gatway rules. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | talk about driving innovation. | [22:44] |
mjr__ | yep | [22:45] |
dub | yeah, you just invented fiat | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | suddenly yet another reason for 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx emerges. | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | it will be a LOT easier to handle those issues with fixed addies | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | sdice has an advantage too. | [22:46] |
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dub | you realise that your anonymity model is bunk when you only connect to nodes you transact with | [22:47] |
BingoBongo | So this got Hearn's panties in a bunch even though he does so much work with SPV clients? | [22:48] |
mjr__ | mircea, how can i get quotes right now? | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | mjr__ right now you can't. what are you trying to do ? | [22:50] |
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mircea_popescu | dub i am not interested in being anon. | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | obviously other people will implement other models. | [22:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 1.45 = 29 BTC [+] | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBongo i dunno what his problem was. | [23:04] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+] | [23:04] |
BingoBongo | Too soft for the interwebz maybe? | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | maybe. | [23:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [+] | [23:06] |
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BingoBongo | I could see getting pissed about colored coins or the dude who put and MP3 on testnet trying that on the real blockchain, but miners filtering transactions? Gavin reccommends conf settings for miners. | [23:07] |
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mircea_popescu | BingoBongo o, no, no. the argument was about hm | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck was it about | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | o yes, i think he wanted increased block size. | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | and honestly i think colored coins are a horrible nonstarter. i can only imagine the sort of crap that'd occur if they caught on | [23:10] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.45 = 8.7 BTC [+] | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | and there'd be satoshi's running around everywhere | [23:10] |
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mjr__ | mircea: just wanted to see where my positions were at | [23:10] |
mjr__ | no big deal | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | mjr__ trade is practgically frozen so nothing much would have changed. | [23:10] |
mjr__ | cool | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | that;s kinda it, i could have come up with a pure vpn solution | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | and only allow trusted people on the network to talk to the exchange | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | (which incidentally is how things work irl ) | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | however, i judged that'd create a haves/havesnot disparity that's both huge and sudden | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | better and fairer just freeze things for a little bit. | [23:11] |
mjr__ | i agree | [23:14] |
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mjr__ | i like the protected message open channel | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | but to expand on the plan : as an absolute rock bottom if things can't be otherwise resolved within a week, i will publish a gmail address, and trade will work via email (you email your paste instead of putting into site, you get it back) | [23:15] |
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mjr__ | out of curiosity and i haven't really thought this all the way through | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | as a relative rock bottom, if things can't be otherwise resolved within a couple of days i will have a vpn installed. this has the disadvantage that it puts the brokers in an iffy spot | [23:15] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.55 = 3.1 BTC [+] | [23:16] |
mircea_popescu | also, we are currently working on using irc bot much like gribble works. there should be one up soon and another during weekend. | [23:16] |
mjr__ | would a recaptcha and session timeout not solve most of it? | [23:16] |
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mircea_popescu | and also, much larger infrastructure should be coming online during the 8th. | [23:16] |
mircea_popescu | mjr__ nope. | [23:16] |
mircea_popescu | it would solve nothing at all. routers are getting friend, not boxes. | [23:16] |
mjr__ | oh ok | [23:17] |
mjr__ | true | [23:17] |
mjr__ | and i'm sure that they are randomizing the addresses enough to bypass any sort of blacklist rirght? | [23:17] |
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mjr__ | and CDN couldn't fix either? | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | cdn doesn't do this. there are ddos protection services out there, but all have their own issues | [23:18] |
mjr__ | i'm sure you have thought this through | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | it's a long story. | [23:18] |
mjr__ | yeah | [23:18] |
mjr__ | i was just curious for my own benefit | [23:18] |
mjr__ | as to how one combats this | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | well, for your own benefit : | [23:18] |
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mjr__ | i'm really fine regardless | [23:18] |
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mircea_popescu | cloudflare is very cheap (like200 a month) but it's mostly intended for random kid dickery. | [23:18] |
mjr__ | buy and hold | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | this is not what we're dealing with here. | [23:18] |
mjr__ | yeah lol; | [23:19] |
mjr__ | this is quite sustained | [23:19] |
BingoBongo | Cloudflare goes down enough on its own | [23:19] |
mircea_popescu | blacklotus is expensive, and i have yet to locate anyone that can give me the straight dope about what they actually do./ | [23:19] |
mircea_popescu | incapsula is sorta like more of a midmarket thing | [23:19] |
mjr__ | hmmm, and since it is routers not boxes, proxies won't really help? | [23:20] |
mircea_popescu | mjr__ proxies help in the exact sort of way i had it set-up : open web proxy which connects on a sort of private vpn to mpex webservers | [23:20] |
mircea_popescu | but the thing is, they actually took the time to blow up all these. | [23:20] |
mjr__ | hmmm, i have a little idea | [23:20] |
mjr__ | but it is rough | [23:20] |
mjr__ | and would depend on what router capabilities | [23:21] |
mjr__ | and whether you have control/access to it | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | hm ? | [23:21] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [23:21] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.72301, Best ask: 42.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11699, Last trade: 42.72301, 24 hour volume: 162226.99314014, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 46.74900, 24 hour vwap: 41.19641 | [23:21] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m ^OIX | [23:21] |
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thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: what is the OIX | [23:21] |
assbot | It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money. | [23:22] |
mjr__ | i'm wondering if you could basically require a signed message in the http header request to get to the webserver | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | mjr__ the ddos is not actually containing headers. | [23:22] |
mjr__ | ie. the router would drop all traffic that did not contain the signed header | [23:22] |
mjr__ | damn UTP shit? | [23:22] |
mjr__ | UDP | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | a complete mess and mix. | [23:22] |
mjr__ | typo lol | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller it's the options sentiment index. | [23:22] |
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thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: I meant what is it currently atm | [23:26] |
thestringpuller | SINCE YOU HAVEN'T FIXED MPEX | [23:26] |
thestringpuller | stop making people angry at you | [23:26] |
mircea_popescu | lemme see | [23:26] |
Lyspooner | my sentiment is that the options aren't there right now | [23:27] |
mjr__ | hmm couldn't you conceivably use QoS to give http traffic priority on the router | [23:27] |
dub | not if the router is on fire | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | {"avg": "4713745617","min": "3024713516","max": "4853472885","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.62504497419E+12","cnt": ""} | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | mjr__ understand, the box was doing something like 0.07 load all through the ddos. | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | it's not the server at all. | [23:28] |
thestringpuller | damn | [23:28] |
thestringpuller | option index is still bullish on the current price | [23:28] |
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mircea_popescu | well yeah, because | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | a. a lot of calls closed up past 24 hours. those don't count. | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | b. a lot of longass short puts were closed, which does count | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | but it counts from way up, so it makes the put side kinda high too | [23:29] |
Lyspooner | yowch | [23:29] |
thestringpuller | I hope MPOE-bot is holding it together... | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | i mean put side is up to 30, from like 22 earlier | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | mpoe bot is like... wtf did everyone go ? | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | getting depressed and loneyl. | [23:29] |
BingoBongo | Mircea, maybe you should tweet @binarybits about this interesting bitcoin story he could run on Ars... Any publicity is good publicity... | [23:30] |
dub | im not sure 'we had to close doors due to ddos' is great publicity | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | anything can be turned into great publicity. | [23:32] |
dub | and singing of imminent mitigation may be premature | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | your wife's a whore ? well... at least she's hawt. | [23:32] |
BingoBongo | Gox is alive after all of those Haxxed stories | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | i think there's enough presence to keep the stakeholders appraised. | [23:33] |
dub | gox is alive because nobody has mannned up to replace it | [23:33] |
jcpham | send a cryptic email explaining how the hot wallet backup was unencrypted and accesible via telnet | [23:33] |
mircea_popescu | other than that... heh. | [23:33] |
dub | nobody is a willing user of gox | [23:33] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham i think someone might have noticed that mpex didn't answer on 23 | [23:34] |
mircea_popescu | or wait, was 23 ftp ? | [23:34] |
jcpham | jokes | [23:34] |
jurov | no, telnet iirc | [23:34] |
jcpham | you should make aup along crytpic convoluted story | [23:35] |
jborkl | rackspace? | [23:35] |
jcpham | involving backups and password in source codes | [23:35] |
jcpham | secret agents | [23:35] |
jurov | and vampires | [23:35] |
jcpham | mos def vampires | [23:35] |
jcpham | make the story long enough and people will stop caring about halfway through reading | [23:36] |
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mircea_popescu | maybe mpoe-pr could be a vamp | [23:36] |
mircea_popescu | ire | [23:36] |
jcpham | they'll just figure it's another scam | [23:36] |
dub | you could use nntp tbh | [23:36] |
jcpham | then add the word "Psyche" at the end. | [23:36] |
jurov | http://live.coinbr.com/ THE SHOW MUST GO ON | [23:36] |
mircea_popescu | dub i was more considering that guy's bitmessage p2p thing | [23:37] |
dub | google groups can probably take teh dos | [23:37] |
dub | heh, I've been ddos'd ~700 times in teh last month | [23:40] |
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dub | acording to arbor anyway, I don't recall noticing any of them | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | ya well, they gotta sell themselves somehow. | [23:42] |
mircea_popescu | that's kind of the problem, very chinese market out there. "yes sir i tell you we do ddosprotection" | [23:42] |
dub | yep | [23:42] |
mircea_popescu | "o wait, you mean ddos as in, 6-7 gb sustained with 20gb peaks ?! OMG TAKE A HIKE" | [23:42] |
dub | its a racket for sure | [23:42] |
Lyspooner | http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html | [23:45] |
mircea_popescu | Visa processed 37 billion | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | transactions in FY2008 | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | afaik that number is off | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | more like 3.7 | [23:47] |
Lyspooner | well at least satoshi was considering very big block sizes | [23:48] |
Lyspooner | and specialized mining hardware | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | If a small number of entities are issuing new coins, | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | this is more resistant to state attack that with a | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | single issuer, but the government regularly attacks | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | financial networks, with the financial collapse ensuing | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | from the most recent attack still under way as I write | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | this. | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | financial network is bigger than the honest financial | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | network, with the result that even though everyone knows | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | what is happening, people continue to use the paper | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | issued by the evil financial network, because of network | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | if you want to do business. | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | that guy is smart. | [23:49] |
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mod6 | ;;calc 3700000000/365 | [23:51] |
gribble | 10136986.3014 | [23:51] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] | [23:52] |
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mod6 | so ~10 million | [23:52] |
thestringpuller | mod6, side bar | [23:53] |
mod6 | http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-total << says we're between 12-14m per day | [23:53] |
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Lyspooner | *not per day | [23:54] |
Lyspooner | *per ever | [23:54] |
Lyspooner | mod6, you're looking for this? http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions | [23:54] |
mod6 | oh my bad | [23:55] |
Lyspooner | we're like Visa transactions in Kansas City | [23:55] |
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mod6 | that seems much more realistic. | [23:55] |
mod6 | i should have examined that closer | [23:56] |
jborkl | Mp, what about using bitcoin to send the trade message to your address. cant ddos the entire network, put the encypted message inside a signed transactions- use it just like SD does | [23:56] |
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mircea_popescu | jborkl " cant ddos the entire network" << o but they can. | [23:56] |
jborkl | well, it would be much harder | [23:56] |
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mircea_popescu | it would be painful, especially if they go after nodes one at a time | [23:57] |
dub | yeah, tell that to dalnet | [23:57] |
jborkl | yes, if they tracked your first relay and knocked it off, then next one | [23:57] |
jborkl | but you can change your relay in bitcoind easily | [23:57] |
dub | but I support this move, if only to see the rage from Luke-Jr | [23:57] |
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jborkl | and you could build trusted relay nodes to push transactions | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | dub i could start with his relays lol | [23:58] |
jborkl | lol, that would piss him off so bad | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl what i'd do is cause a lot of grief to people otherwise ill equipped to cope. | [23:59] |
jborkl | it would be worth it | [23:59] |
jborkl | ok, fair enough | [23:59] |
mircea_popescu | im not here to cause trouble, contrary to what you might have heard. | [23:59] |
mircea_popescu | i'll be bringing more capacity online and that's that. | [23:59] |
jborkl | I don't think you are | [23:59] |
mircea_popescu | was just being facetious hehe | [23:59] |
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