Forum logs for 07 Jan 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
dub The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password. [00:00]
dub so much funny right there [00:00]
dub turns out patricks mail server let someone 'recover' all of bitcoinicas wallet [00:02]
dub I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected. [00:07]
FabianB_ paypal for a bitcoin conference? [00:10]
jurov my god they collected such a luminaries: https://progressbar.sk/calendar/international-bitcoin-day-2013 [00:13]
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Namworld dub, you can't pay with your library card. [00:14]
jurov indeed i'll collect funds for mpoe-pr to travel there [00:14]
Bugpowder yes [00:15]
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dub amir is possibly adopting this guys approach to education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRwIrbK8KDI [00:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00460243 = 9.435 BTC [-] [01:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1482 @ 0.00455449 = 6.7498 BTC [-] [02:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063976 = 3.1988 BTC [-] [02:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7909 @ 0.00063975 = 5.0598 BTC [-] [02:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6153 @ 0.00063899 = 3.9317 BTC [-] [02:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1468 @ 0.00446855 = 6.5598 BTC [-] [02:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00444 = 4.44 BTC [-] [02:21]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [02:27]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 14 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: I can certainly make an appointment [02:27]
thestringpuller smickles [02:27]
thestringpuller I's sorry I fell asleep [02:27]
thestringpuller ;;seen mod6 [02:30]
gribble mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 18 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: thestringpuller: Bubbles is my hero. [02:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00444 = 8.214 BTC [-] [02:43]
pigeons yes vragnaroda speaks perfect esperanto [02:51]
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dub does he eat beans? [03:06]
dub sounds more like a vindaloo man [03:10]
pigeons well beans are good for your heart [03:12]
smickles thestringpuller: yo [03:17]
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thestringpuller pigeons: so are you an expert on pigeons? [03:27]
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pigeons thestringpuller: nope [03:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00444878 = 10.6771 BTC [+] [03:34]
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mircea_popescu FabianB_ prolly eventually lol [03:42]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla [03:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00462278 = 4.8539 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 522 @ 0.00462375 = 2.4136 BTC [+] [03:44]
mircea_popescu the idea that esperanto helps local languages is pretty good. nothing like something that really sucks as a standard to keep internationalisation at bay. [03:45]
mircea_popescu dub wtf ?! the negligence seen at mtgox happens every month with irl banks. [03:46]
mircea_popescu the diff is mtgox fixed it. [03:46]
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mircea_popescu also, who is Cody R Wilson ? [03:50]
mircea_popescu Mike Gogulski (Bitcoin laundry) ? wtf is that! i need to knoe [03:50]
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Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [03:52]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00446669 / 0.00463274 (82268 shares, 367.47 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333481 / 0.0048 (13847718 shares, 46,179.57 BTC) [03:52]
pigeons mircea_popescu: gogulski is from nostate.com [03:56]
pigeons he used to be in irc all the time but a few years ago [03:56]
mircea_popescu i like these unheard of sites, i learn so very much [03:56]
mircea_popescu wtf is nostate.com [03:56]
pigeons i think it was the mybitcoin nonsense when he started saying pfffh [03:56]
mircea_popescu Fixing the “100% CPU and no useful output” imklog+rsyslog kernel logging problem on Ubuntu guests under Xen PV [03:57]
mircea_popescu ok, so a tech guy ? [03:57]
pigeons he bought a mixer and the motto was "get your bitcoins whiter than white" [03:57]
mircea_popescu root@nyancat:/var/log# tail /var/log/kern.log [03:57]
mircea_popescu wait a fucking second. nyancat ? [03:57]
pigeons nothing to do with usagi ;) [03:58]
pigeons he used to maintain a bitcoin wordpress shopping cart plugin [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00462375 = 5.7797 BTC [+] [03:59]
mircea_popescu a ok [03:59]
pigeons he's mostly known for renouncing us citizenship for a "not a citizen under the blessing of slovakia" card [04:00]
dub mircea_popescu: the shitheads responsible for bitcoinica calling mtgox negligent is funny enough by itself [04:02]
mircea_popescu it is. [04:02]
mircea_popescu i mean, they were, yes, but not much moreso than your average bank. whereas the average bank still is, 10-15 years later [04:03]
mircea_popescu and after 100`000x as many ownages, exploits and general mayhem [04:03]
pigeons gotta give em that at least [04:03]
mircea_popescu pigeons slovakia does that ? cool. [04:04]
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dub is cody the gun printing guy? [04:05]
mircea_popescu i dunno. is he ? [04:05]
dub i closed tab and cannot be fucked finding link [04:05]
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dub the gun printing guy was listed as a speaker iirc [04:06]
pigeons he is "wiki weapon" guy, which is in some ways quite behind the other gun printing projects [04:06]
mircea_popescu so basically... a guy that's been out of the game since about before it started, taaki and a gun printing guy. [04:06]
mircea_popescu they need plato i guess. [04:06]
mircea_popescu or wait, what's the guy who had a show where he used cameras in demo mode ? [04:07]
mircea_popescu cause the new bitcoin ragazine dood is there. [04:07]
dub that was bruce I think [04:07]
dub the bitciontv slash child rapist dude [04:07]
dub spent the last few weeks erasing my memory [04:08]
dub could be wrong [04:08]
pigeons oh course who they need is nefario [04:09]
Bugpowder People that make the most rediculous claims will get the most press, every time [04:10]
Bugpowder happens in every field [04:10]
Bugpowder for a while at least [04:10]
pigeons dreamhost has pictures of their big tubes in their ad [04:10]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder i don't see them getting any press tbh [04:10]
mircea_popescu i see them struggling in a flypaper venue with bad make-up on [04:11]
mircea_popescu for my curiosity, anyone here actually use coinbase ? [04:13]
pigeons no [04:13]
pigeons there was discussion on it in -otc the other day, i didnt see any use for it at all [04:13]
mircea_popescu cause yeah, i wanted to ask iof they actually have a value proposition that i've overlooked [04:14]
pigeons but a few said they just loved being able to send ach from their bank to a bootstrap site and get bitcoins at mygox + 1% [04:14]
mircea_popescu as i understand it it's about two years late. [04:14]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/#comment-91256 sadly the guy offers no hint. [04:15]
pigeons well it seems worse than piuk's even cause i think they are just straight mybitcoin 2.0 no we dont hold your keys tricks [04:16]
mircea_popescu for one. [04:16]
mircea_popescu for the other, at least in blockchain's case i have some feel of who's behind [04:17]
mircea_popescu coinbase, who's that ? [04:17]
pigeons what turned me off before i even looked at the site and saw "hosted bitcoin wallet" was the spammy .1 btc refferal scheme [04:17]
mircea_popescu i'm not sure i'd hold something like that against a new service. maybe. [04:18]
mircea_popescu how did the scheme work ? [04:18]
Bugpowder Wow, just finding this classic thread [04:20]
Bugpowder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39922.40 [04:20]
pigeons a bunch of newbs contantly beg you to open a new coinbase account and get free btc if you hook up you bank account [04:20]
mircea_popescu I requested a withdrawal of 0.1 BTC from my account. [04:21]
mircea_popescu My BTCJAM account was debited 0.0955 BTC [04:21]
mircea_popescu On my address I received 0.095 BTC [04:21]
mircea_popescu dbl fee! [04:21]
mircea_popescu pigeons you ever withdrew from btcjam ? [04:21]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder that shit was so weird back in like 2011 [04:21]
pigeons yep [04:21]
mircea_popescu pigeons so does it work as it's supposed and this stuff i keep reading is basically noobish nonsense ? [04:22]
pigeons btcjam? [04:22]
pigeons its like formalized forum begging/scamming [04:22]
mircea_popescu haha [04:22]
mircea_popescu so malaysian [04:23]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg1438731#msg1438731 hey what do you know, turns out the guy with the rounding was actually a blockchain user lol [04:23]
dub Bugpowder: now find MNW's 'totally legit pictures of underage girls in swimsuits' [04:24]
mircea_popescu "Truly, I'm puzzled by Joel's defense of Mr. Starfish, especially after Patrick's default and disappearance. I can think of few scammers in this cesspool who are more blatant and deserve less sympathy than Patrick." [04:24]
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mircea_popescu i wish i understood wtf fly bit katz on that one. [04:24]
pigeons http://blog.coinbase.com/post/33197656699/coinbase-now-storing-87-of-customer-funds-offline [04:24]
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dub Bugpowder: oh and who could forget amir's 'skype phonesex with two 16 y/o' [04:24]
pigeons cuz its legal in the uk [04:24]
mircea_popescu dub transcript ? [04:25]
mircea_popescu (are there any hms ?) [04:25]
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dub a few people posted that they'd used it [04:25]
mircea_popescu "Offline storage (sometimes called “cold storage”) is the process of taking money that is connected to the internet and moving it offline for safe keeping." [04:25]
mircea_popescu this is such a good definition. [04:26]
pigeons much safer on plastic housed usb sticks [04:26]
mircea_popescu shows a deep, fundamental understanding of the truck/pipes issue. [04:26]
mircea_popescu Why do this? Well, any computer that is connected to the internet with money on it (or bitcoins) is a target for hackers. Keeping servers secure involves many variables and is it’s own area of study and research. Under normal conditions this level of security should be sufficient, but payment apps are held to a higher standard. [04:26]
mircea_popescu high comedy. you can always trust pigeon's link. they don't contain porn in the sense of tit and cunt. [04:27]
pigeons heh [04:27]
mircea_popescu they contain porn of a more intellectual and much more obscene nature. [04:27]
mircea_popescu or should i say unnature. [04:27]
dub I will do ANYTHING to make bitcoin better for the good of humanity!! Oh and I'm going to pimp some quesitonably legal sexual exploitation to make a fast buck [04:27]
mircea_popescu dub http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbljnoTsTN1qznqfn.jpg ? [04:27]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: high comedy? [04:28]
dub im not hitting that from work [04:28]
mircea_popescu do. [04:28]
thestringpuller no nudity [04:28]
Bugpowder dub lol [04:28]
mircea_popescu it's off the coinbase blog at any rate. [04:28]
Bugpowder you can hit it [04:28]
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mircea_popescu tho it does meet the questionable legal explotaition part. maybe no fast bux [04:29]
Bugpowder I really love that photo thread though [04:29]
Bugpowder It's actually kinda useful [04:29]
mircea_popescu got a thing for floating azns ? [04:29]
Bugpowder stuff to know [04:29]
thestringpuller "2011 will no doubt be remembered as the year that Bitcoinica took Bitcoin by storm. With leveraged trading, playing the Bitcoin markets went from tee-ball to the big leagues, seemingly overnight. 2012, however, will take things to a whole new level. Mt.Gox and Tradehill have both hinted at the fact that they will be unveiling futures and options markets as part of their development plan, with Mt.Gox possibly br [04:29]
thestringpuller lol this blog [04:29]
Bugpowder hinted at the fact [04:29]
mircea_popescu lol. [04:30]
mircea_popescu srsly, options were this big thing, imminent in like, July 2011. [04:30]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135071.msg1438315#msg1438315 what nao JWU42 ? [04:30]
mircea_popescu o wait nm missed his reply. [04:31]
JWU42 my good freind usagi had to comment ;) [04:31]
mircea_popescu lol [04:31]
mircea_popescu so basically, you're piling up your share and plan to distribute it when ? [04:32]
JWU42 ideally later this week if it stays private [04:32]
mircea_popescu if what stays private you mean ? [04:32]
JWU42 it is not relisted on a new exchange and payments are made directly to the holders [04:33]
JWU42 it might take longer to begin payouts if it is listed on a new exhcnage as then holders would need to create accounts, etc. [04:33]
mircea_popescu o o i see. [04:33]
Bugpowder "SO I believe a remedy is available to JWU. It's simple -- something akin to... give up his current stake in YABMC. I.e. ~500 BTC." [04:33]
JWU42 and the whole "unregulated securities" concerns of listing again [04:34]
mircea_popescu probably cleanest to just disburse. i don't see why any sane exchange would want a wreck listed to beghin with [04:34]
JWU42 Bugpowder: yeah - I have the BTC ready to go and plan to [04:34]
JWU42 as of Friday was around 48 BTC [04:34]
JWU42 482 [04:35]
mircea_popescu how much did you get burned for, all told ? [04:35]
Bugpowder I don't trust usagi's valuation models. [04:35]
JWU42 I didn't get burned per se [04:35]
mircea_popescu just intangibles ? (goodwill etc) [04:36]
JWU42 I suppose it is the bondholders are are getting less than they deserve [04:36]
Namworld Anyone heard anything from/about Amazingrando by the way? [04:36]
JWU42 since the payout would be ~ 60% of what it should have been [04:36]
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JWU42 Namworld: he just posted in his thread [04:36]
JWU42 mircea_popescu: yeah - some damaged goodwill perhaps [04:36]
mircea_popescu well... that's ahead of the game. i guess if you survive you might end up a banker or something. [04:37]
dub are not HK and PH already tagged? [04:37]
JWU42 dub: they are [04:37]
mircea_popescu yeah. [04:37]
Namworld Damn. He's not answering my PMs [04:37]
JWU42 I suppose conspiro... was not aware when he first posted [04:38]
JWU42 cannot remember his full handle ;) [04:38]
mircea_popescu sphere [04:38]
JWU42 .tk [04:38]
JWU42 ;) [04:38]
thestringpuller ;;getrating PatrickHarnett [04:39]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User PatrickHarnett, rated since Tue Mar 6 14:02:32 2012. Cumulative rating 67, from 27 total ratings. Received ratings: 23 positive, 4 negative. Sent ratings: 22 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=PatrickHarnett [04:39]
mircea_popescu heh [04:39]
JWU42 it even took a while for Pirate to get to a negative rating [04:39]
JWU42 people don't look at that often and tend to rate only when transacting [04:39]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133144.msg1438861#msg1438861 this thread kicks ass [04:40]
mircea_popescu usagi's asset list [04:40]
mircea_popescu OBSI.HRPT (10,089 shares) [04:40]
mircea_popescu that's almost as much as i was short [04:40]
Bugpowder Matthew N. Wright debt (750 bitcoins) Hashking Debt (550 btc) Imsaguy debt (approx. 300 BTC) [04:41]
mircea_popescu ya lol [04:41]
mircea_popescu i was about to paste that. [04:41]
Namworld I forgot to rate PH... [04:41]
Namworld Done [04:41]
pigeons quality junk there [04:41]
Bugpowder GSDPT (6,000 shares (remaining) [04:41]
Bugpowder if only... [04:41]
Namworld I rated Pirate like an eternity after he defaulted... and was his first negative rating. [04:41]
JWU42 ahh - he has 30 shares of YABMC [04:42]
pigeons "PPT debt (everything from goat to brendio direct -- if you really want this just PM me)" [04:42]
mircea_popescu ya 6k gsdpt is worth a little, iirc they were even with s.dice ? [04:42]
JWU42 damn [04:42]
pigeons hahah mnw [04:42]
mircea_popescu Namworld i doubt you were. [04:42]
JWU42 33K of BIB.BVPS [04:42]
pigeons so 1 million btc worth of worthlessness = 0 btc [04:43]
Namworld ;;getrating pirateat40 [04:43]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User pirateat40, rated since Mon Aug 1 14:18:45 2011. Cumulative rating -119, from 89 total ratings. Received ratings: 56 positive, 33 negative. Sent ratings: 65 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40 [04:43]
JWU42 ^ Win [04:43]
mircea_popescu ya you were, 2 days [04:43]
mircea_popescu o wait, that's where the missing bvps was. usagi ? [04:43]
JWU42 I have a few thousand BIB.BVPS as well [04:44]
Namworld Hey... I want those S.BVPS shares. [04:44]
pigeons is brendio mia? [04:44]
JWU42 need to foigure when brendio is gonna opay the past few months dvis [04:44]
Bugpowder well, using usagi's valuation model, we should probably discount the hashking debt to 75% of par [04:44]
mircea_popescu pigeons he hasn't shown up lately, we used to chat ocasionally back like last summer. [04:44]
Bugpowder Is S.BVPS not paying divs anymore or what? [04:45]
mircea_popescu iirc they paid like 1.5 total [04:45]
Bugpowder what was the 1.5 BTC payment? [04:45]
pigeons dividends on no profit [04:45]
Bugpowder no profit? 1 time charge? [04:46]
Bugpowder discounting of goodwill [04:46]
Bugpowder ? [04:46]
JWU42 last spoke to Brendio on Dec 7th it seems [04:46]
Bugpowder bitvps was down all month? [04:46]
pigeons https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFvQWJnZnRZQWJfbk1mNHYtVzhPR0E#gid=0 [04:46]
Bugpowder tx [04:46]
Namworld We'd have ~300$ more profit if we didn't buy a WHMCS owned license. [04:47]
Namworld Now we won't pay it monthly [04:47]
pigeons that sounds forward lookin g:) [04:47]
JWU42 well that looks like a wonderful business [04:47]
Namworld Still far less then previous dividends. [04:47]
JWU42 3 measly BTC [04:48]
JWU42 that means I get like a satoshi per share [04:48]
JWU42 heh [04:48]
pigeons ok i guess i have to post comparison [04:48]
pigeons https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkGjIAZQI3fydHpEZWl4RFhnelJwd2xqWE5LeFF0TGc#gid=0 [04:48]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134966.msg1437892#msg1437892 [04:48]
mircea_popescu ahaha that's my girl. [04:48]
pigeons from some MOB or something ltc asset [04:48]
Namworld That's actually 300 satoshi per share. [04:48]
Namworld But yeah. [04:48]
Namworld We'd have close to 30 BTC profit without that fixed cost thing. [04:49]
JWU42 Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98958txVSrE [04:49]
JWU42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98958txVSrE [04:49]
Namworld We'll also be spending on advertisement and getting software which will cost. [04:50]
Bugpowder ok so it's like a 1 time charge? [04:50]
pigeons i'm waiting for my, email about how new management is gonna be so responsive and stuff [04:51]
Namworld yes, 324$ owned instead of monthly. You still pay 50$ per year for updates. [04:51]
Bugpowder wtf! That Credit Score is hilarious [04:51]
Namworld Otherwise it's 19$ monthly [04:51]
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Namworld 228$ per year, less 50$ for yearly updates, 178$ saved each year. [04:52]
dub I want to kill myself but I can't. [04:52]
dub usagi fails even at failure [04:52]
mircea_popescu why and why not ? [04:52]
mircea_popescu o, you were quoting. [04:52]
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Bugpowder How can ANYONE's time be worth so little as to be skimming percentages off of sub 1 BTC loans and making a spreadsheet of them. Google [04:53]
mircea_popescu "Friedcat still verifies shares. Today i got my confirmation for 1252 shares. GLBSE official data infos. So im safed now because my things with glbse are cleared finally." [04:53]
Bugpowder Google's server costs to host that page are more then the value of the stuff being tracked. [04:54]
pigeons heheh :) [04:54]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder i think you have no idea what they squeeze out of a server. [04:54]
mircea_popescu i'd guess their per-spreadsheet costs are under a satoshi. [04:54]
Bugpowder what about the calories burnt entering the data into the spreadsheet. those cost money [04:55]
Bugpowder and the power to the laptop [04:55]
mircea_popescu some people really are worthless. [04:56]
Bugpowder xbabyboy4021x 0.25 8% 30 Days every 7 days DEFAULT Sold To Smiley (0.15) [04:56]
Bugpowder YES [04:56]
mircea_popescu lol [04:56]
Namworld Wait spreadsheets for less than 1 BTC of debts? [04:56]
pigeons i posted it 2 days in a row now [04:56]
mircea_popescu 0.25 btc in default sold for .15 this guy should work for BoA [04:56]
Namworld https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdFItM2RwdWU3VHJMeldkSm1IckZNbUE#gid=0 [04:56]
Bugpowder Was able to sell my distressed package of loans for 0.15BTC. 0.1 was written off. [04:57]
pigeons heh [04:57]
Namworld Well it started with 269 BTC of debt. But I guess it's now a 0.04 BTC of debt spreadsheet xD [04:57]
mircea_popescu so let me share a sad, dark secret. [04:57]
mircea_popescu today i went to a local comedy show. [04:57]
Bugpowder LTC loans, little tiny children loans. [04:58]
mircea_popescu i was bored out of my fucking mind. in spite of paying like 8 bux tgo be there and also being with a bunch of friends so we just made fun of the comedians the whole time [04:58]
mircea_popescu then i come to irc, im laughing my ass off for the past two hours. [04:58]
Bugpowder you can't buy a pencil at the elementary school shop [04:58]
Bugpowder for 0.1BTC [04:58]
mircea_popescu i wish to sell my quality comedy club time (2 hours) for .1 btc now. [04:58]
Bugpowder So, is BitcoinsDirect still the best place to get large # of coins for US people? [04:59]
Bugpowder Got a friend that is ready to dip his toe in [04:59]
pigeons dont think i've heard of it [04:59]
mircea_popescu i never heard of that ? [05:00]
Bugpowder Tangible Cryptography's service [05:00]
mircea_popescu i thought dt and mtgox were it [05:00]
mircea_popescu o, is that what he calls it ? [05:00]
Bugpowder ya [05:00]
mircea_popescu a ok. then prolly. [05:00]
Bugpowder it was AWESOME last time. [05:00]
mircea_popescu wasn't it fc3g or some shit [05:00]
Bugpowder walk into bank fill out slip, get coins 1% below gox like 2 hours later [05:00]
mircea_popescu if he has coins. [05:01]
pigeons send him to bruce wagner! [05:02]
Bugpowder Is the S.BBET IPO going to go off EXACTLY at midnight Jan 11th, or is it going to be human-triggered around that time? [05:03]
pigeons i just keep hitting refresh [05:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 129 @ 0.00462375 = 0.5965 BTC [+] [05:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 494 @ 0.00463274 = 2.2886 BTC [+] [05:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00464937 = 2.7896 BTC [+] [05:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2063 @ 0.0046669 = 9.6278 BTC [+] [05:05]
Bugpowder S.DICEEEE [05:05]
Bugpowder !ticker S.DICE [05:05]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00447985 / 0.0046669 (83804 shares, 375.43 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333524 / 0.0048 (13850953 shares, 46,196.31 BTC) [05:05]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder why dowes it make a diff ? [05:05]
Bugpowder you should be able to figure that out [05:06]
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thestringpuller Bugpowder: you could also sell coins too [05:07]
Bugpowder I just want to know when I need to have any orders place by to get that initial allotment [05:07]
thestringpuller fastcash4bitcoins [05:07]
Bugpowder I don't need to sell coins [05:07]
Bugpowder I need to buy coins [05:07]
thestringpuller you buy coins and give people cash? [05:08]
thestringpuller or the other way around? [05:08]
Bugpowder i get cash from friend, I buy coins, I send coins to friend and I either have another few hundred coins for my fund, or MP gets another 30BTC account fee. [05:08]
pigeons druggie [05:09]
thestringpuller lol [05:09]
Bugpowder nop [05:09]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder it will be automated, but for my own edumancation [05:10]
mircea_popescu cuz i still don't see the diff. [05:10]
Bugpowder why should I provide pricing info to other bidders until just before the event starts [05:10]
Namworld You don't have a MPEx account yet? [05:10]
Bugpowder friend does not have account [05:10]
Namworld oh [05:11]
Namworld Don't forget to give them your public MPEx key =P [05:11]
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Bugpowder I am too bad at GPG to get the joke :( [05:11]
mircea_popescu i still don't see how other bidders can use that info is the thing. [05:11]
pigeons did havelock ever show a signed statement? [05:11]
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Namworld It's not a joke =/ [05:11]
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Namworld You refer them have them mention your account ID (public key fingerprint) [05:12]
Bugpowder ahhhh! [05:12]
Bugpowder ty [05:12]
Bugpowder whats the bonus? [05:12]
Namworld Mircea credits both account with 5 BTC [05:12]
Bugpowder kewl [05:12]
Namworld Well, seems like people are still not aware of the referral system =/ [05:13]
Bugpowder Well, I'm not sure if witholding info will make a difference or not. But I think it will [05:13]
Bugpowder Allow me to place bids for optimal allotments based on the existing bids [05:14]
Bugpowder without having others change their bid in time to counter me. [05:14]
Bugpowder ebay style [05:14]
Bugpowder but now I have revealed my strategy so ;( [05:14]
dub IPO sniping was big sport on glbse [05:14]
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Ukto thestringpuller: i looked through a box for ff7 [05:16]
Ukto wasnt in that one [05:16]
Ukto i think its under some other stuff in a crate [05:16]
Ukto gonna try to look in an hour [05:16]
thestringpuller way to get my hopes up [05:16]
Bugpowder holyshit they come out small [05:17]
Bugpowder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ_eeDvCo8U [05:17]
mircea_popescu im thinking it's equally likely that waiting will get you a benefit or a loss [05:19]
mircea_popescu on one hand, the guy with the top bid is guaranteed sharex [05:19]
mircea_popescu on the other, if he gets sold through then you can get shares cheaper later [05:19]
thestringpuller Bugpowder: that's cool as shit. marsupials (sp) ftw [05:20]
Bugpowder It will be an interesting experiment [05:20]
Bugpowder I don't know if I like the mutual betting model with time-weighting though [05:21]
thestringpuller Bugpowder: is this what you spend your freetime watching? [05:21]
thestringpuller lol [05:21]
Bugpowder I have used betsofbitco.in for a long time, and I think the time-weighting diminishes betting volume closer to the event, which is when more people want to be, due to time value of money [05:21]
mircea_popescu it's not set in stone. [05:22]
Bugpowder I just want a bitcoin sportsbook with traditional moneyline and pointspreads [05:22]
mircea_popescu ya whio;s gonna maintain it ? [05:22]
Bugpowder thestringpuller got it off the twitter [05:22]
Bugpowder Well, you could go based off the hilton lines [05:23]
Bugpowder and if you have a decent bankroll you can at least allow betting based on the spread [05:23]
Bugpowder and just up the juice a bit more than a trad book [05:23]
Bugpowder to deal with the low volume / high variance [05:24]
mircea_popescu "you" [05:25]
mircea_popescu who ? [05:25]
Bugpowder whoever has coins, some betting knowledge, website knowledge and a dream [05:25]
Bugpowder There are other problems with the mutual model. It's very hard to get large bets going [05:25]
thestringpuller betting knowledge? [05:25]
thestringpuller lol [05:26]
mircea_popescu ... [05:26]
mircea_popescu dude. you completely misrepresent the total lack of competence in bitcoin [05:26]
Bugpowder You need a vegas sharp to partner with [05:26]
mircea_popescu there's like, 100 or so coders, most incompetent, a few bright, some acceptable [05:26]
Bugpowder ok [05:26]
mircea_popescu there's like 1-2k preop transsexuals, random internet kids [05:26]
mircea_popescu there's a bunch of ex cons that are all against the state for the very phylosophycal reason that they have priors [05:27]
mircea_popescu and that's it. [05:27]
mircea_popescu there isn't a bookie. [05:27]
mircea_popescu there is (maybe) a grand total of two lawyers [05:27]
mircea_popescu of which one's a paralegal or some shit. [05:27]
Bugpowder with the mutual model, if you want to lay 100BTC down, you need to have faith that other people will bet up the other side to an acceptable odds level [05:27]
Bugpowder which is rare [05:27]
dub lol [05:27]
mircea_popescu well... it's not so rare, there's 100 btc bets [05:28]
Bugpowder Only BFL shit really gets BTCs over 10 [05:28]
mircea_popescu but i can appreciate the point. [05:28]
dub thats an excellent summary of the bitcoin community [05:28]
mircea_popescu ty. [05:28]
Bugpowder I have done a LOT of betting on betsofbitco.in [05:28]
mircea_popescu i work hard and pay top dollar for my research. [05:28]
Bugpowder I have tried the strategy of betting on BOTH sides of my event just to get the bet size big enough [05:29]
Bugpowder for it to be worth it [05:29]
mircea_popescu i was gonna say, with parimutuel you can always take both sides [05:29]
Bugpowder cause usually, if you bet big on one side, you get fucked. [05:29]
mircea_popescu if you have a spread you bet each side of the spread [05:30]
mircea_popescu and wait for close to closure to wipe it. [05:30]
mircea_popescu you can make decent money as a bookie on the system as it is, if you actually know odds. [05:30]
Bugpowder As an alternative model, you pull the football game spread off some vegas site, take any bets that come on either side, and adjust the vig to encourage betting on the side that isn't getting hit as hard. Then the bet size is decoupled from the odds. [05:31]
Bugpowder This only works if you are doing events that have a spread [05:31]
mircea_popescu or that. [05:31]
Bugpowder but people want to bet on sports [05:32]
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mircea_popescu but suppose the event is 7:2 to buy , 1:3 to sell (just random numbers) [05:32]
Bugpowder Lots of money on football [05:32]
Dr-G where should I buy stocks? [05:32]
mircea_popescu dr-g what stocks ? [05:32]
Dr-G satoshi dice for example [05:33]
Bugpowder naw. The spread in the seahawks-skins game was +3.5 for seahawks. [05:33]
Dr-G just wanna have a few [05:33]
Bugpowder How much coin do you have? [05:33]
mircea_popescu Dr-G you probably want a broker then. [05:33]
Dr-G oh you're the MPE something guy, your stuff is cool but too complicated for me ;) [05:33]
Bugpowder Err -3.5 for seahawks [05:34]
mircea_popescu yeah. [05:34]
Bugpowder so if the seahawks score at least 4 points more than skins, you win the bet [05:34]
mircea_popescu you can try coinbr.com, or else bitfunder has a passthrough [05:34]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder im really useless with sports betting, i never did it nor do i much care about sports [05:34]
Bugpowder then you charge 110btc to bet on either side, and if you win you get your bet + 100 back. [05:35]
Bugpowder if you lose, you lose the 110 [05:35]
mircea_popescu but im just saying, you can put 50/30 btc in, then wait for other bettors to contribute theior own then make a final bet to adjust to reasonable rate either way [05:35]
Bugpowder if people keep banging on one side, you adjust the vig, i.e. you charge 150 to win 100 on the side with too much action [05:36]
Bugpowder If it gets really bad, you move the spread to a new number, i.e. -5.5 [05:36]
Bugpowder This is the way it works, and it works very well [05:36]
Bugpowder I am actually amazed that nobody has built this site. [05:37]
Bugpowder hmmm.... [05:37]
mircea_popescu lol [05:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1137 @ 0.0046669 = 5.3063 BTC [+] [05:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 563 @ 0.00467507 = 2.6321 BTC [+] [05:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1032 @ 0.00467507 = 4.8247 BTC [+] [05:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 644 @ 0.00477874 = 3.0775 BTC [+] [05:40]
Bugpowder anyway, I think the betsofbitco.in model is flawed for the most popular topic of betting, sports, and only works for certain long-dated events with a lot of ebb and flow to the apparent odds, that juice the bet value. When there is a site that does Vegas style odds making, I'm going all in in that IPO. [05:41]
Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [05:45]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00449038 / 0.00477874 (84890 shares, 381.19 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333557 / 0.0048 (13854329 shares, 46,212.15 BTC) [05:45]
mircea_popescu it'd seem the value of that model strictly depends on the quality of the bookie. [05:45]
Dr-G s.dice is worth 500k btc right now ^^ [05:46]
Dr-G or 430k [05:46]
mircea_popescu on 30day avg 333557. on 1 day avg 449038 [05:47]
Dr-G minus the 250 btc I robbed :P [05:49]
Bugpowder ha [05:49]
Bugpowder the only way to win long term is to take the winnings and buy the stock :-P [05:50]
mircea_popescu some dood was doing this [05:50]
mircea_popescu "i won 16btc and promptly turned around and bought the stock" [05:51]
mircea_popescu i was like... yeah. [05:51]
Dr-G hehe [05:51]
Dr-G still a better transaction than that pizza transaction [05:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00064105 = 0.7693 BTC [+] [05:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10027 @ 0.00064106 = 6.4279 BTC [+] [05:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2315 @ 0.00064366 = 1.4901 BTC [+] [05:58]
Namworld Hey, at the time, a measly 10 000 BTC for a pizza was an amazing deal on such gastronomy food. [06:01]
pigeons yeah i don't get the ridicule either [06:01]
thestringpuller was this when btc was worth 10 cents a coin? [06:01]
thestringpuller err 1 cent [06:02]
Namworld Even less than 1 cent [06:02]
pigeons without being willing to accept bitcoins for pizza, we never would have been able to trade anything for bitcoins [06:02]
Bugpowder uhhh [06:03]
pigeons i would have happily given that many for pizza too, but no one else was willing to take them for something valuable like pizza [06:04]
mod6 haha [06:04]
Bugpowder one way of measuring you value in science is to ask, if I never existed, how far would it have set back the field, in terms of time. [06:04]
pigeons that's why first thing i did with the time machine was kill Bugpowder's grandpa [06:04]
Bugpowder if the bitcoin pizza man never existed, we would have been set back a few days [06:04]
pigeons i hope you mean days in bitcoin time, cause it would have been more than that, by far [06:05]
Bugpowder how long before another man ordered a pizza [06:06]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller it was possibly the first time an item of value was exchanged for this internet funny nonsense [06:07]
pigeons maybe would have been never [06:07]
mircea_popescu ya, what pigeons said [06:07]
pigeons but certainly wasn't necessarily a few days imminent [06:07]
kakobrekla fuck not again [06:08]
kakobrekla neighbour is leaving for work and im still up [06:08]
mircea_popescu fuck his wif ? [06:08]
mircea_popescu +e [06:08]
kakobrekla lol [06:08]
kakobrekla i was trying to get back to a normal pace [06:09]
mircea_popescu o, that kind of up [06:09]
kakobrekla whatever normal means. [06:09]
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thestringpuller kakobrekla: you are a hacker there is no normal circadian rythym for us [06:30]
kuzetsa heh [06:31]
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Ukto thestringpuller: k, going back to the garage to try to find the discs again [06:41]
thestringpuller cool [06:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 224 @ 0.00466586 = 1.0452 BTC [-] [06:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2584 @ 0.00466586 = 12.0566 BTC [-] [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474291 = 2.8457 BTC [+] [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00474292 = 5.6915 BTC [+] [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1456 @ 0.00477874 = 6.9578 BTC [+] [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9160 @ 0.0047888 = 43.8654 BTC [+] [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 645 @ 0.30139779 = 194.4016 BTC [+] [06:51]
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gladoscc Ukto: what's the current fee for listing a new asset on bitfunder? [07:01]
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Ukto I am extending the 3btc thru jan at least [07:34]
Ukto thestringpuller [07:35]
Ukto i have goot news [07:35]
TradeFortress oh cool [07:35]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://www.google.com/finance?cid=668090 [07:40]
mircea_popescu le loll. watch bitbet own it. [07:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1648 @ 0.0047888 = 7.8919 BTC [+] [07:43]
TradeFortress It's 0.0045 on bitfunder. [07:45]
thestringpuller Ukto: how much you want for it [07:48]
Ukto 1... BILLIONG (pinkeys) bitcoins [07:49]
Ukto >,> [07:49]
thestringpuller so more bitcoins than will ever exist? [07:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.0047888 = 20.3524 BTC [+] [07:52]
Ukto deal. [07:53]
Ukto :P [07:53]
Ukto what was the original deal? [07:53]
Ukto 5btc? [07:53]
Ukto although [07:53]
Ukto i am concerned about disc.. 2 [07:53]
Ukto i can faintly see some light circular scratches [07:54]
Ukto but being black bottom [07:54]
Ukto its shiney as hell [07:54]
Ukto its not enough to feel with a fingernail [07:54]
Ukto or just a finger [07:54]
Ukto but if you run your nail back and forth over it, it does make a slight noise :/ [07:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.0006405 = 5.156 BTC [-] [08:04]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet/ [08:14]
mircea_popescu if anyone's looking for a laugh [08:14]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^^ [08:14]
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Dr-G !ticker s.dice [08:40]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00455893 / 0.0047888 (99863 shares, 455.27 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333775 / 0.0048 (13875451 shares, 46,312.85 BTC) [08:40]
Dr-G make me rich [08:41]
mircea_popescu they say that's how the 1929 panic started. [08:45]
Namworld rah! [08:46]
Namworld I can't freakin view it, no credit as ever... [08:46]
Namworld I never ever have darn credits. [08:46]
mircea_popescu life is short but unfair. [08:48]
Namworld but I haven't been able to read your blog in months, except right after that time you gave me 100 free credit. [08:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3900 @ 0.0047888 = 18.6763 BTC [+] [08:50]
mircea_popescu are you on open wifi or something ? [08:51]
Namworld Nope [08:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.0047888 = 13.8875 BTC [+] [08:53]
Namworld Yeah I seriously don't know [08:57]
Namworld This is really odd... [08:57]
Dr-G we need bitcoin mania 2.0 [08:57]
TradeFortress Hey Namworld [09:01]
TradeFortress just wondering, what is happening to btc-mining? [09:01]
TradeFortress Only 15 BTC in holdings? [09:01]
Namworld The rest was loaned to Amazingrando as per motion in exchange of hashing, until such day we could buy some ASIC rig. [09:03]
TradeFortress So, there has being no dividends from when GLBSE shut down to now? [09:03]
mircea_popescu is that marked down as loss ? [09:03]
Namworld I'll have to see about that. [09:04]
Namworld Amazingrando isn't very active. Just moved his Bitbond to cryptostock and nothing then. [09:05]
mircea_popescu i see. [09:08]
Namworld Was pretty much: "My mining doesn't cover eletricity fees anymore, so I'll stop paying divs. See you when ASICs ship." [09:09]
mircea_popescu hence 15 btc in holdings [09:11]
Namworld Indeed. [09:28]
Namworld Well I guess the only people happy are BTC-BOND holders. [09:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10599 @ 0.00064366 = 6.8222 BTC [+] [09:39]
Namworld Well, I just updated my bitcointalk.org signature, mircea [09:42]
Namworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94271.0 [09:43]
Namworld My biz + BitVPS + MPEx [09:43]
Namworld Since I'm now working on both + BitVPS is on MPEx, seems appropriate. [09:43]
Namworld We also have an ad slot: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo [09:46]
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mircea_popescu cool. [09:56]
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Namworld Those ad slots seems a bit expensive tho. [10:01]
Namworld We've put a tracking link and going to see if it gets any results. [10:01]
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mircea_popescu last i checked (maybe a year ago ?) they were horrible. [10:05]
mircea_popescu http://business.time.com/2012/12/20/libor-scandal-yep-its-as-bad-as-we-thought/ [10:14]
mircea_popescu heh just catching up on all the juice. [10:14]
mircea_popescu MPBOR, moar serious than LIBOR [10:14]
Namworld Well now they're at 100 - 130k weekly impressions. [10:21]
Namworld per slot [10:21]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 [18:21]
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mircea_popescu "As for Quentin, he has other clients and has, from what I was briefly told, been busy filling in for other attorneys in the office while they were away. I'm hoping to speak with him today to get an updated timeline for the verified claims lists and terms of service for the VPS site." [18:35]
mircea_popescu this doesn't sound so good. [18:35]
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gigavps mircea_popescu what doesn't sound good about it, we are still dealing with holiday issues, nbd [18:41]
mircea_popescu it sounds to me like the lawyer guy is getting drowned in drama and is inches away from throwing his hands up at the entire thing. [18:42]
mircea_popescu because forumer time is not worth money and lawyer time is. [18:43]
gigavps lol [18:43]
gigavps he's getting paid [18:43]
gigavps nothing to worry about there [18:43]
mircea_popescu aite. [18:43]
gigavps not like you care since you aren't claiming anyway [18:43]
gigavps there are about 8 ppl crying in the gigamining thread, the rest are emailing me, being polite, and working through this thing with me [18:44]
gigavps 8 out of 300 [18:44]
mircea_popescu i don't care other than in the vague macro sense that it'd be best if this actually works as opposed to not working. [18:45]
gigavps i've done everything i've said i'd do, and as i've said, i'm waiting on Quentin [18:46]
mircea_popescu i'm not saying you haven't. [18:47]
mircea_popescu bah. so this guy made FOUR deposits before actually hitting one right. [18:49]
mircea_popescu wtf! [18:49]
topace mircea_popescu: haha hope it wasnt me!? mine have all been right i think (and thanks for just processing my 80BTC deposit) [18:54]
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mircea_popescu well whoever it was! &sure. [18:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00469227 = 4.6923 BTC [-] [19:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 230 @ 0.00469226 = 1.0792 BTC [-] [19:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1720 @ 0.00467397 = 8.0392 BTC [-] [19:05]
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JWU_42 mircea_popescu: are you involved in bitbet.us [19:18]
JWU_42 ? [19:18]
mircea_popescu yes. [19:18]
JWU_42 K [19:18]
JWU_42 MPOE-PR posted something about the site in the YABMC thread [19:18]
JWU_42 didn't know the site existed ;) [19:18]
mircea_popescu hehe it was just launched a day or two ago [19:18]
mircea_popescu it's on mpex too. [19:18]
JWU_42 ahh [19:19]
mircea_popescu more detailed there [19:19]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: do you have any insight yet on btcamazon? [19:21]
mircea_popescu im not in a hurry [19:22]
thestringpuller you should be come a bookie [19:24]
mircea_popescu if i wanted to become a bookie i think i'd have done it by now tho [19:24]
kakobrekla JWU42>PS - 7 total bets - perhaps an insufficiently small sample size. [19:25]
kakobrekla go ahead and fix that [19:25]
kakobrekla :p [19:25]
jcpham i was thinking of a sports bet [19:30]
jcpham but the game is today :( [19:30]
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mircea_popescu aww jcpham gotta do them earlier [19:49]
jcpham always a bridesmaid [19:50]
mircea_popescu lol [19:51]
jcpham did you get my last message mircea_popescu [19:51]
mircea_popescu i didn't know you crossdressed [19:51]
mircea_popescu well see, it's impossible for me to check seeing how i don't know whats "last" in your context :) [19:52]
jcpham mr. bloggerman said get in touch [19:52]
mircea_popescu o o yea he emailed. [19:52]
jcpham via forum and/or skype [19:52]
jcpham k cool [19:52]
mircea_popescu ok these noobs are starting to get on my nerves. [19:53]
mircea_popescu so! the "business idea" in share "investing" is to create market inefficiencies [19:53]
mircea_popescu whereby prices to artificially pop on lack of liquidity ? [19:53]
mircea_popescu waht the fuck is wrong with them! [19:53]
kakobrekla urlpls [19:54]
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jcpham i bet it is a link to bitcointalk? [19:54]
mircea_popescu yes lol [19:56]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134684.msg1438119#msg1438119 [19:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00467792 = 10.5253 BTC [+] [19:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00467398 = 4.674 BTC [-] [19:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00467397 = 1.6359 BTC [-] [19:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 770 @ 0.00467397 = 3.599 BTC [-] [19:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00464344 = 13.9303 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00460652 = 3.6852 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 194 @ 0.0045735 = 0.8873 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00456159 = 1.8246 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00449163 = 17.9665 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00448487 = 17.9395 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00444001 = 4.44 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00443811 = 14.202 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4800 @ 0.00441955 = 21.2138 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3148 @ 0.00441386 = 13.8948 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 729 @ 0.004312 = 3.1434 BTC [-] [20:00]
JWU_42 kakobrekla: heh - nah [20:03]
JWU_42 jcpham: ROLL TIDE! [20:03]
jcpham what is havelock investments [20:03]
jcpham yes [20:03]
mircea_popescu i think some sort of fund/exchange [20:04]
jcpham i was checking out their site [20:06]
topace jcpham: i run havelock investments [20:08]
topace ask away :) [20:08]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust topace [20:08]
gribble Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user topace: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=topace [20:08]
mircea_popescu o hey. had no idea. [20:09]
jcpham so explain it [20:09]
jcpham looks mostly canadian [20:09]
kakobrekla ;;getrating topace [20:09]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User topace, rated since Wed Jun 8 15:37:29 2011. Cumulative rating 19, from 8 total ratings. Received ratings: 8 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=topace [20:09]
jcpham it has a mutual fund feel [20:09]
topace started as our mining fund [20:10]
topace then when we looked at exchanges to list our fund on, i couldnt find a decent one [20:10]
topace so i wrote my own [20:10]
jcpham the exchange is private? [20:10]
mircea_popescu https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ still going ? [20:10]
topace so for a while, the only security listed on my exchange, was our own mining fund [20:10]
topace no, its public [20:10]
topace mircea_popescu: yup [20:10]
topace mircea_popescu: ~2000BTC/day volume, not huge, but pretty good since i only deal with canadians :p [20:11]
mircea_popescu you and dt should form amalgamated american bitcoin traders [20:11]
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topace Havelock passthru now has 2% of all SDICE shares that have been released (200,000 of 10,000,000) [20:13]
mircea_popescu i guess if we count pt's as institutional investors that takes us to about .7% total [20:15]
mircea_popescu not so bad [20:15]
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topace 0.7% of what ? [20:15]
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mircea_popescu of float [20:15]
mircea_popescu s.dice ipo was 10% [20:16]
smickles < topace> Havelock passthru now has 2% of all SDICE shares that have been released (200,000 of 10,000,000) << heh, sounds like I finally have some competition [20:16]
smickles I'm sure I offer a better deal than havelock [20:16]
mircea_popescu how much do you hold ? (unless it's a sikrit) [20:16]
smickles about twice that [20:17]
topace i did 200,000 in 2 days :p lol [20:17]
topace couldnt keep my public offerings open they kept selling out [20:17]
mircea_popescu ya the glbse pt had the same issue. [20:17]
smickles topace: you run it? [20:18]
topace smickles: i run havelock investmetns [20:18]
mircea_popescu you probably should just float a larger set. [20:18]
smickles topace: well, you can probably top me, I don't have a 'web presence' for what I do [20:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00457769 = 13.7331 BTC [+] [20:18]
mircea_popescu why is that ? [20:19]
smickles i don't need one, it seems [20:19]
topace heh [20:19]
mircea_popescu lol whatever works i say. [20:19]
topace yea :p with teh success of the SDICE passthru i was considering doing a MPOE passthru as well :p not sure if it'd be as susccessful though [20:20]
topace competition is a good thing :) [20:20]
mircea_popescu or a bbet pt after ipo [20:20]
mircea_popescu i imagine Ukto is prolly going to do something like that too [20:21]
kakobrekla Ukto will just code a new bbet or smth [20:21]
mircea_popescu ill bet you he won't :D [20:22]
kakobrekla place it [20:22]
mircea_popescu lmao [20:22]
smickles I'm quite entertained by texts sent to me by accident [20:25]
smickles "Randy is going to call you in a minute with an update" [20:25]
jcpham coinabul is on the radio [20:26]
jcpham http://overseasradio.com/ [20:26]
topace why's there such high bids for S.BBET ? [20:27]
mircea_popescu it's not floated yet [20:27]
mircea_popescu i guess people want in ? [20:27]
kakobrekla ;;later tell namworld PS, somebody please tell bitvps to fix their SSL certificate, I can't pay my bill with them until they do this. If they don't get their act together right-quick I'm dropping them from the signcryption network. I've been pestering them about this for two weeks now and am pretty unimpressed with the lack of any sort of response. [20:29]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:29]
topace so if there's higher bids than the IPO price, what happens? it just takes the highest and works down? [20:30]
topace when the IPO starts? [20:30]
mircea_popescu 11th [20:31]
mircea_popescu and yes [20:32]
smickles i remember mircea_popescu saying that mpex is socialist in order matching [20:32]
mircea_popescu lol ? [20:32]
smickles it's not who placed the order first, if there are multiple orders which would match, they split it [20:32]
kakobrekla hm [20:33]
kakobrekla can live.coinbr chart the orderbook [20:33]
kakobrekla or it needs to go live before that [20:34]
smickles working off that likely flawed memory, all the bids @ or above the first block would proportionally split the first block [20:34]
kakobrekla !ticker b.bet [20:34]
assbot Invalid ticker. [20:34]
kakobrekla meh [20:34]
smickles and then all bids @ or above the second block proportionally split that one, and so on [20:34]
smickles http://bitbet.us/bet/16/ << heh, it's like calculating the delta [20:36]
mircea_popescu smickles that's aside tho, [20:38]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla it will prolly chart it once it's live [20:39]
kakobrekla so now i have to code my own chart. [20:39]
kakobrekla :D [20:39]
mircea_popescu why ? [20:39]
mircea_popescu lol [20:39]
kakobrekla cause i wanna SEE [20:40]
mircea_popescu hahaha [20:40]
mircea_popescu ok ok. [20:40]
mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php [20:41]
mircea_popescu it was there all along, neh ? [20:41]
kakobrekla dunno [20:41]
kakobrekla jurov!"!!!!! [20:41]
mircea_popescu lol [20:43]
mircea_popescu neither jurov nor ukto are true coders [20:43]
mircea_popescu they sleep. [20:43]
kakobrekla lol [20:43]
kakobrekla im low on food gotta run to the store bbl [20:43]
smickles oh my, I just realized, when I'm writing a program, i tend to smoke in place of sleeping [20:44]
mircea_popescu this is how we find out kakobrekla doesn't have a gf [20:45]
jcpham if i fixate on a task, i find it difficult to sleep [20:47]
jcpham so i tend to not fixate on any one task for too long [20:47]
jcpham quick done. next. [20:47]
kakobrekla accually, i havent left yet [20:48]
kakobrekla and the bitch came back. [20:48]
mircea_popescu aww poor girl. [20:48]
kakobrekla yeah after the gpg contract things went back to normal! [20:49]
mircea_popescu you have a gpg contract with your gf ? [20:49]
kakobrekla twas a joke but im thinking about it [20:49]
kakobrekla ill give -10 if she splits again. [20:50]
mircea_popescu ahaha [20:50]
jurov i had a meeting. eve true coders have meetings [20:50]
jurov *even [20:50]
jurov so, what is? [20:51]
kakobrekla jurov [20:51]
mircea_popescu we just missed you [20:51]
kakobrekla 19:41.01 ( mircea_popescu ) http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php [20:51]
kakobrekla make this into pictures pls [20:51]
kakobrekla fuck 9 min remaining [20:51]
kakobrekla brb [20:51]
jurov kakobrekla, which asset? [20:52]
mircea_popescu jurov he just gott excited about bbet [20:52]
jurov no cigar. depth['S'] is undefined :/ [20:59]
mircea_popescu well ya, there's no S activity yet. [21:00]
kakobrekla but [21:03]
kakobrekla i want my cigar. [21:03]
kakobrekla :( [21:03]
* gigavps runs away with kakobrekla's cigar [21:04]
mircea_popescu i dub thee sir kakobrekla lewinsky the 2nd [21:04]
topace whats the "4`085`852` shares" on the S.DICE volume graph? [21:04]
topace volume over the period of the graph? (whatever that is?) [21:04]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [21:06]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00461387 / 0.0047888 (116066 shares, 535.51 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334271 / 0.0048 (13760569 shares, 45,997.67 BTC) [21:06]
mircea_popescu can't be. [21:06]
mircea_popescu well, maybe if it was weekly ? [21:06]
* kakobrekla sprouts his tobacco plant seeds. [21:08]
topace would be nice if numbers made sense :p [21:08]
jurov http://live.coinbr.com/images/1357585780134.png [21:11]
jurov nothing to die for [21:11]
kakobrekla it werks [21:11]
mircea_popescu F [21:11]
mircea_popescu maddox can draw a better fire engine. [21:11]
kakobrekla lol [21:11]
Bugpowder topace, its the max daily volume for the month [21:12]
mircea_popescu o that was the 10k+ day huh [21:12]
topace Buglouse: ahh! thanks :) [21:13]
mircea_popescu lmao poor Buglouse [21:13]
topace so that big red bar on the volume chart [21:13]
topace mircea_popescu: are you MPOE-PR on bitcontalk? im trying to figure out what the hell adamstgBit is talking about here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134684.40 [21:14]
mircea_popescu she's my pr. [21:16]
jurov http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.BBET now working [21:18]
kakobrekla thanks jurov [21:18]
jurov also S.BVPS... but you need to select a month to see anything [21:18]
kakobrekla nothing in my opera for bvps and month [21:19]
kakobrekla a [21:20]
kakobrekla interesting [21:20]
kakobrekla chrome works bvps even for daily [21:20]
kakobrekla :) [21:20]
jurov not surprising as it's code form google [21:20]
jurov i remember many more smaller orders for s.bbet, what happened? [21:23]
jurov mpex coalesced them for display? [21:23]
Bugpowder They got cancelled [21:23]
Bugpowder buy the ordered [21:23]
Bugpowder because they would not be filled [21:23]
Bugpowder due to the current higher bids [21:23]
mircea_popescu ya i guess ppl took them away [21:23]
mircea_popescu i didn't do nuttin. [21:23]
Bugpowder price discovery [21:23]
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mircea_popescu about 1mn of the total 3mn spoken for too [21:26]
mircea_popescu impressive. [21:26]
jurov trade will start jan 11 00:00 or 24:00 ? [21:26]
mircea_popescu how do you answer such a question lol [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063901 = 6.3901 BTC [-] [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.000639 = 7.668 BTC [-] [21:27]
mircea_popescu early on the 1tth not late on the 11th [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3847 @ 0.00063899 = 2.4582 BTC [-] [21:27]
jurov hehe ok. i mean it like 24:00 is coming after 23:59 [21:28]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 825 @ 0.36111486 = 297.9198 BTC [+] [21:28]
mircea_popescu well it is. [21:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00445174 = 4.4517 BTC [-] [21:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00445174 = 3.784 BTC [-] [21:34]
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jurov it's not who placed the order first, if there are multiple orders which would match, they split it [21:42]
jurov true? [21:42]
mircea_popescu dude, from what i recall the conversation was that mpex shouldn't be splitting them [21:43]
mircea_popescu but treat oldest first. [21:43]
mircea_popescu about... one year ago [21:43]
jurov thanks. for a moment my hair has risen dramatically [21:43]
jurov when i imagined what would that do with coinbr [21:43]
mircea_popescu and the socialistic thing was a lol remark in passing [21:45]
mircea_popescu should i dig through logs ?! [21:45]
jurov no, i believe you [21:46]
jurov i must be wary of smickles in the future [21:47]
mircea_popescu lol [21:47]
jurov if he uses such methods to disturb the competition [21:47]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [21:50]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: oh my, I just realized, when I'm writing a program, i tend to smoke in place of sleeping [21:50]
jurov don't support smoking. use coinbr [21:50]
mircea_popescu lmao [21:51]
mircea_popescu i have no idea why people'd want price conflict anyway. [21:52]
smickles ;;seen thestringpuller [21:52]
gribble thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 minutes and 46 seconds ago: ;;seen smickles [21:52]
kakobrekla lol [21:53]
kakobrekla a loop! [21:53]
smickles heh, jurov, I did start that statement with something about how I thought it was based of flawed assumptions [21:53]
mircea_popescu "For the past few days, I am disturbed, greatly worried, and upset about my ruthless mistake of having sex with my girlfriend. I'm a believer in Christ and my girlfriend is not. " [21:53]
smickles so that's why usagi went bonkers [21:54]
mircea_popescu "and my girlfriend turns out to not be very good in the sack" fifh. [21:54]
mircea_popescu wait, there's an answer. [21:56]
mircea_popescu Answer: [21:56]
mircea_popescu You raised a number of good issues and hopefully I'll be able to address most of them. [21:56]
mircea_popescu What you describe is a typical trap of Satan. [21:56]
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mircea_popescu “Our findings demonstrate that infidelity and number of sexual partners are both under moderate genetic influence (41% and 38% heritable, respectively) and the genetic correlation between these two traits is strong (47%).” [21:59]
mircea_popescu somebody doesn't quite grok statistix [21:59]
jcpham http://torgronsund.com/2013/01/07/cofounders-and-thieves/ [22:01]
jcpham that article is missing the word bitcoin [22:01]
jcpham otherwise it reads like a bitcointalk post [22:01]
mircea_popescu must be really hard to be anonymous when your name actually is tor. [22:01]
jcpham haha [22:02]
mircea_popescu "suddenly had been withdrawn" [22:02]
mircea_popescu ppl putting suddenly where suddenly doesn't belong [22:02]
Bugpowder what time of the day does the bitbet betting cutoff take place? [22:03]
mircea_popescu i never heard of a half hour spirited bout of bank withdrawals [22:03]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^ [22:03]
Bugpowder If betting ends on Jan 12th, when does that occur? [22:03]
kakobrekla midnight gmt [22:03]
jcpham it reads like the bitcoin magazine debacle [22:03]
Bugpowder very important for sports betting [22:03]
Bugpowder ok [22:03]
jcpham where vladimir was billing them for emails [22:03]
Bugpowder like start of the day or end of day midnight GMT [22:03]
Bugpowder ? [22:03]
Bugpowder 00:00 or 24:00 :) [22:03]
kakobrekla end [22:04]
Bugpowder ok [22:04]
kakobrekla bettings stops before that [22:04]
kakobrekla 2-7 days [22:04]
mircea_popescu jcpham i dunno why people got so excited. if i were involved with that caliber of idiots i'd be billing 10 btc an hour too. [22:04]
jcpham he did keep good records [22:05]
Bugpowder you need to expand those options [22:05]
Bugpowder the 2-7 day thing [22:05]
kakobrekla wait i might have given you wrong info [22:05]
Bugpowder because the time decay to zero will kill late betting [22:05]
kakobrekla im just cheking what i coded now [22:06]
Bugpowder no you are correct [22:06]
jcpham yes allow 12 hour bets so i can take money from chumps [22:06]
jcpham oops did i say that [22:06]
Bugpowder I want to set the resolution date later than the event [22:06]
Bugpowder but cutoff betting prior to event [22:06]
Bugpowder otherwise nobody will bet late. [22:06]
Bugpowder so that event decay is only to ~70% of starting value [22:06]
Bugpowder I would actually prefer no decay. [22:07]
Bugpowder over decay to zero [22:07]
kakobrekla curretly decay is from start to the time when the betting stops not the resolution date [22:07]
Bugpowder mp said it wrong then [22:07]
Bugpowder ok [22:07]
Bugpowder is it possible to have a user selected decay rate? [22:07]
kakobrekla it was planed at the begining but thrown out later on [22:08]
kakobrekla i dunno [22:08]
Bugpowder It is absolutely necessary if you want there to be serious betting volumen [22:08]
Bugpowder most people want to bet close to event [22:09]
Bugpowder but wont if they are getting 1:10 odds [22:09]
Bugpowder because they are late to the party [22:09]
kakobrekla odds are the same, weight is different [22:09]
Bugpowder the weight defines the odds [22:09]
Bugpowder for the bettor [22:09]
Bugpowder any new bets are diluted [22:10]
Bugpowder based on the decay [22:10]
Bugpowder there is some marginal utility for a decay [22:10]
kakobrekla odds of wining or losing are the same [22:10]
Bugpowder your EV [22:10]
kakobrekla the amount of reward differs [22:10]
Bugpowder EV is all that matters [22:10]
kakobrekla but thats not odds [22:10]
Bugpowder ok fine [22:10]
kakobrekla i mean yeah [22:11]
Bugpowder EV is strongly negative [22:11]
kakobrekla for different subjects [22:11]
Bugpowder for both sides of a bet [22:11]
kakobrekla different decay would be 'more apropriate' perhaps [22:11]
Bugpowder after 25% decay [22:11]
kakobrekla but decay must happen [22:11]
Bugpowder if the odds are properly expressed [22:11]
Bugpowder why? [22:11]
mircea_popescu no seriously, user-suggestable decay will prolly be in gold [22:11]
mircea_popescu this is beta recall. [22:11]
Bugpowder decay is not used in ANY real wagering site [22:11]
Bugpowder only the failure that is betsofbitcoin [22:11]
kakobrekla mp will take over from here. [22:12]
kakobrekla ;) [22:12]
Bugpowder Anyway, I'll be back later [22:12]
Bugpowder I have discussed with him too [22:12]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder the main problem is that iots so hard to user-specify [22:12]
mircea_popescu without reimplementing lisp [22:12]
Bugpowder Then have a switch [22:12]
Bugpowder decay or no decay [22:13]
mircea_popescu i think that's the minimal solution yes. [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18958 @ 0.00063757 = 12.0871 BTC [-] [22:13]
jcpham did you guys know bit-pay has an invoice tool? [22:13]
mircea_popescu yes [22:13]
jcpham i've been wanting to play with it [22:14]
Bugpowder Decay only makes sense for events like "BFL will ship by x date" [22:14]
Bugpowder it does not make sense for "Broncos will beat Ravens on Saturday" [22:15]
mircea_popescu in a limited sense it does [22:15]
mircea_popescu (if you bet this week before bronco star kills itself) [22:15]
Bugpowder Right [22:15]
mircea_popescu but certainly the linear decay makes no sense in most such situations [22:15]
mircea_popescu as in, it's a pretty dumb macro attempt to handle discrete events [22:15]
Bugpowder Yes, a much less steep slope would be good for those circumstances [22:15]
Bugpowder for binary events with a fixed event time [22:16]
kakobrekla i agree [22:16]
mircea_popescu final/gold/retail/2.0/we you wanna call it is scheduled for february sometime [22:16]
Bugpowder anyway. I'm going to hold off placing up my props until that is implemented. Ready to drop 100BTC to seed the site with some good sports bets. [22:16]
mircea_popescu this'd be one of the things that'd be addressed [22:16]
Bugpowder NFL playoffs will be over by then [22:17]
mircea_popescu it's just, it's something that can benefit from a little marketplace input [22:17]
Bugpowder Well I'm giving it right now [22:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00436997 = 2.622 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 173 @ 0.00457769 = 0.7919 BTC [+] [22:17]
Bugpowder Gotta run. talk about it later. [22:17]
kakobrekla later [22:18]
Bugpowder also [22:18]
Bugpowder cutoff really should be able to go to 1 day before the event [22:19]
Bugpowder 70% of the action come day before an event. [22:19]
Bugpowder (guess) [22:19]
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mircea_popescu prolly. [22:24]
thestringpuller Bugpowder: you should build tha [22:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2542 @ 0.00063757 = 1.6207 BTC [-] [22:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00063747 = 5.1635 BTC [-] [22:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00063698 = 3.5352 BTC [-] [22:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12858 @ 0.00063603 = 8.1781 BTC [-] [22:32]
kakobrekla http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8m5d0_everything-is-amazing-and-nobody-i_fun#.UOswjESxrXN [22:37]
mircea_popescu jcpham left that tor dood a comment. real curious if he publishes it. [22:38]
jcpham heh [22:38]
mircea_popescu it reads [22:38]
jcpham you didn't call him a moron did you? [22:38]
mircea_popescu This write-up is so very… noobish I have serious doubts you have any business in business. [22:38]
mircea_popescu And you claim to be teaching others “entrepreneurship” ?! Really ? Ridiculous. Then again I guess this is how academia became irrelevant in the marketplace, by hiring complete noobs to be “teaching”. [22:38]
mircea_popescu Seriously, stick to what you know and understand. Boardrooms aren’t for everyone. [22:38]
mircea_popescu i didn't call him a moron literally because he'd not have comprehended how true it is. [22:39]
mircea_popescu you have to draw it out for the morons. [22:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00446786 = 10.7229 BTC [-] [22:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00446786 = 0.4468 BTC [-] [22:39]
jcpham that article is popular on the ycombinator scene today [22:39]
jcpham as you can imagine [22:39]
mircea_popescu color me unsurprised. [22:39]
mircea_popescu fucking scenesters. [22:39]
mircea_popescu it's literally became a roadshow attraction. [22:39]
jcpham there are a couple aggregate news sources i follow daily if i have the time [22:40]
mircea_popescu young-ish sorta out of shape pasty ass jew today can either go into the stand-up comedy scene or the start-up comedy scene [22:40]
jcpham the HN stuff is usually hilarity [22:40]
jcpham alot of the VC's thoughts and stuff [22:40]
jcpham http://www.florian-rappl.de/html5/projects/SuperMario/ [22:40]
mircea_popescu ima end up hiring moar pr chicks. [22:40]
jcpham ^ also grabbed my attention today [22:40]
mircea_popescu where am i to find em ;/ [22:40]
jcpham pigeons will pretend to be alady [22:41]
mircea_popescu lol [22:41]
mircea_popescu omg teh sound [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4653 @ 0.00063851 = 2.971 BTC [+] [22:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3917 @ 0.00064933 = 2.5434 BTC [+] [22:50]
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topace would anyone object if i wrote a Havelock bot to output stuff here using identical format to assbot ? [22:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2330 @ 0.00065144 = 1.5179 BTC [+] [22:53]
dub havelock bot? [22:54]
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topace dub: for trades on www.havelockinvestments.com [22:55]
dub oic, check with kakobrekla [22:56]
mircea_popescu why not just pipe to assbot ? [22:57]
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topace mircea_popescu: that would work too, how do i do that ? [22:58]
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topace who wrote assbot ? [22:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla [22:58]
mircea_popescu there's a spec somewhere [22:58]
topace that would be ideal :) [22:59]
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topace kakobrekla: you there? can you let me know how to interface with assbot ? [23:01]
jcpham hahaha [23:02]
jcpham that last line was classic [23:02]
dub topace: buy it flowers and a bottle of wine [23:03]
topace lol [23:03]
thestringpuller ;;seen Ukto [23:03]
gribble Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 19 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: and someone has to find all my secrets [23:03]
dub alternatively rophynol [23:03]
jcpham r-o-o-f-i-e-s for assbot [23:04]
jcpham working title for my sci-fi porno [23:04]
topace who | grep -i assbot | date; cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger; mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount; sleep [23:04]
jcpham umount; sleep is my favorite part [23:05]
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mircea_popescu maybe gf got back with a printed gpgun and fixed him. [23:05]
Diablo-D3 so what happened to Ukto? [23:06]
Ukto ? [23:07]
Ukto yeah. what happened to ukto [23:07]
* Ukto is heavily vested. needs to know [23:07]
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jcpham Diablo-D3 how is DMC coming along? [23:07]
jcpham when can i tour the datacenter [23:07]
Diablo-D3 Ukto: I thought you wanted the list [23:07]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: never, blame nefario [23:07]
jcpham :( [23:07]
thestringpuller Ukto where is dat ff7 [23:08]
Ukto thestringpuller: did you get my msgs abou tit? [23:08]
Ukto Diablo-D3: pm [23:08]
thestringpuller how much for it? [23:08]
Ukto [12:45] neither jurov nor ukto are true coders < -- damn straight. and dont you forget it. [23:11]
mircea_popescu lol [23:12]
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Ukto [12:23] i imagine Ukto is prolly going to do something like that too & [12:24] Ukto will just code a new bbet or smth <-- ... .. *whisltes....* ... >,> [23:12]
mircea_popescu lol [23:12]
Ukto [23:55] what was the original deal? 5btc? [23:13]
Ukto althought, i am concerned about disc.. 2 [23:13]
Ukto i can faintly see some light circular scratches. but being black bottom, its shiney as hell, if you run your nail back and forth over it, it does make a slight noise :/ [23:13]
jurov put it into gramophone then [23:14]
Ukto lol [23:15]
mircea_popescu I'm hoping for a site to pop up with floating rates the way intrade used to work. [23:15]
mircea_popescu anyone here know how intrade used to work ? [23:15]
mircea_popescu (i never used it) [23:15]
Ukto never even heard of it [23:15]
thestringpuller Ukto: do you have a playstation to test them? [23:18]
mircea_popescu o i see, it was just a simple market simulation. [23:19]
Ukto not sure where the ps1 is [23:19]
Ukto but I do have a p2 and a 1st gen ps3 [23:19]
Ukto ps2 [23:19]
Ukto should all have support I think [23:19]
Ukto althoguh [23:20]
Ukto fair warning [23:20]
Ukto if I start playing [23:20]
Ukto I might not sell [23:20]
Ukto until i have beat the game [23:20]
Ukto :P [23:20]
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Ukto ill see if I can test it late tonight when the kids get to bed and i can hook thign sto the tv without 1mil questions [23:20]
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Bugpowder mircea_popescu I posted some sports stuff. We will see how the decay works. [23:48]
mircea_popescu approved. [23:50]
Bugpowder how long does it take for the bet values to update? [23:53]
Bugpowder should have 2 confirms [23:53]
Bugpowder by now [23:53]
Bugpowder showin up now [23:56]
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