Forum logs for 08 Jan 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu 1 confirm basically [00:00]
mircea_popescu but i guess there may be second-level delays due to chain parsing etc [00:00]
Bugpowder all good [00:05]
Bugpowder R U RDY 4 SOME FOOTBALL?? [00:05]
mircea_popescu lol [00:05]
mircea_popescu i couldn't even tell you who won if i watched a match [00:05]
mircea_popescu Confirmed total: 225 BTC [00:06]
Bugpowder !ticker S.DICE [00:06]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00461688 / 0.0047888 (108318 shares, 500.09 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334312 / 0.0048 (13765692 shares, 46,020.49 BTC) [00:06]
mircea_popescu this is pretty good tho, bitbet seems stuck on 100 btc bet a day [00:06]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [00:06]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.51931, Best ask: 13.53998, Bid-ask spread: 0.02067, Last trade: 13.53998, 24 hour volume: 21012.52240497, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.54999, 24 hour vwap: 13.49166 [00:06]
Bugpowder Well, we will see [00:06]
Bugpowder I think the site can be a success with the right exposure and the right audience with enough coins and interest in the propositions [00:07]
Bugpowder and selectable decay :) [00:07]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1*365*20/10000000 [00:07]
gribble 0.00073 [00:07]
mircea_popescu fo reals. [00:08]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder i still dunno how to specify decay tho. [00:08]
mircea_popescu i guess i could do two-point linear three point polynomial four point spline [00:08]
mircea_popescu except i doubt there's five ppl in btc who could read and comprehend the faq for that in one pass. [00:08]
Bugpowder Linear is fine for some events [00:10]
Bugpowder actually linear is probably ok for all events [00:10]
Bugpowder just have a selectable slope, i.e. final decay point [00:10]
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mircea_popescu all decay starts say 100k ends *user selected* ? [00:11]
Bugpowder 0 for stochasitic occuring events [00:11]
Bugpowder err [00:11]
Bugpowder 0 for events that could be triggered at any time (ie earthquake) [00:11]
mircea_popescu im really thinking maybe dump decay entirely. [00:12]
Bugpowder naw [00:12]
Bugpowder I can see the utitility for things like earthwuake [00:12]
Bugpowder or BFL shipping [00:12]
mircea_popescu this is also true [00:12]
mircea_popescu as time progresses... [00:12]
PsychoticBoy BFL shipped today :D [00:12]
Bugpowder 85,000 for binary events taht occur once at a known time (sporting event) [00:13]
pigeons check's in the mail [00:13]
Bugpowder FPGAs? [00:13]
PsychoticBoy my new PSU, the other died yesterday [00:13]
PsychoticBoy ;) [00:13]
PsychoticBoy for free [00:13]
Bugpowder 85,000 / 2^(n-1) for sporting tournaments where n is the number of rounds and you are betting on the winner (maybe) [00:13]
PsychoticBoy 1 day shipping , new record, got the tracking code [00:14]
Bugpowder maybe 100,000 / 2^(n-1) for that [00:14]
PsychoticBoy BFL CAN ship in 1 day :D [00:14]
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PsychoticBoy had one ordered on ebay before contacting BFL though [00:15]
PsychoticBoy let see which one comes first [00:15]
Anduck whatcha ordered? [00:19]
Anduck fpga or fpga? [00:19]
jcpham i say a BFL single on ebay starting at 600 the other day [00:19]
jcpham why i was on ebay i shudder to remember [00:19]
jcpham don't make obama fire a tornado at you [00:21]
jcpham gtfo lol [00:21]
PsychoticBoy I oredered a new PSU, send them an email yesterday and they offered a new PSU for free and its already in the mail [00:24]
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mircea_popescu jcpham what's a single worth these days ? [00:31]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 96 @ 0.13595559 = 13.0517 BTC [-] [00:36]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [00:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.50000, Best ask: 13.54467, Bid-ask spread: 0.04467, Last trade: 13.54467, 24 hour volume: 23705.29840652, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.58900, 24 hour vwap: 13.49859 [00:39]
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Bugpowder BREAKOUT [00:39]
Bugpowder WEEKLY HIGH [00:39]
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mircea_popescu o hey. [00:41]
mircea_popescu no wonder calls were selling earlier [00:41]
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mircea_popescu o, and it looks like bbet will be oversubscribed. [00:41]
Bugpowder ?? [00:41]
Bugpowder o [00:42]
Bugpowder I c [00:42]
Bugpowder They saw all the sports action [00:42]
Bugpowder lol [00:42]
mircea_popescu lol [00:42]
mircea_popescu may be. [00:42]
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mircea_popescu it occurs to me, the logical thing would be for someone with little capital but a journalism degree to start a bitcoin financials blog [00:43]
mircea_popescu just the tips he can pick up idling in this chan are enough to guarantee success. [00:43]
Bugpowder arg [00:44]
Bugpowder kalkobrekla was wrong about the bet closing time [00:44]
dub mircea_popescu: last I checked OneFixt was making fuck all doing that [00:45]
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dub mircea_popescu: via IRC tho, not blawg [00:45]
Bugpowder " like start of the day or end of day midnight GMT [15:03] ? [15:03] 00:00 or 24:00 :) [15:04] end" [00:45]
Bugpowder actually it looks like its start of day, based on the cutoff times on the website. [00:45]
Bugpowder Oops [00:46]
mircea_popescu dub blog. it matters. [00:46]
Bugpowder blogs are huge [00:46]
Bugpowder if you have high quality content [00:46]
mircea_popescu yeah. i know cause i run one. [00:46]
Bugpowder me too [00:46]
mircea_popescu ya but yours doesn't charge. [00:46]
Bugpowder mine enhances my repuation [00:46]
mircea_popescu mine does too. [00:46]
Bugpowder lots of people know me [00:46]
mircea_popescu i get chicks writing for fucking advice. [00:46]
Bugpowder in science [00:46]
Bugpowder via the blog [00:46]
mircea_popescu i guess each his own huh :D [00:47]
mircea_popescu haha atlanta 6.02:6.01 ?! noway, even odds ? [00:47]
Bugpowder 13.59 [00:47]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/50/ [00:48]
Bugpowder well atlanta is actually favored 3:2 [00:48]
Anduck mircea_popescu: why not bet title in the uri? [00:48]
Bugpowder but I like the seahawks [00:48]
mircea_popescu Anduck now that's a great q. [00:49]
mircea_popescu i guess we're too dumb to have thought of that. [00:49]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder you're on, dawg. [00:49]
kakobrekla there ya go [00:50]
kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/50/why-not-bet-title-in-the-uri/ [00:50]
kakobrekla sorry was out again [00:50]
kakobrekla umm yeah bugpowder i checked b4 as i said [00:50]
kakobrekla but i forgot to tell you looks like its the start of that day that ends the bet [00:50]
kakobrekla if its ends on the first of feb [00:50]
Anduck mircea_popescu: fix it [00:50]
Anduck xD [00:50]
mircea_popescu lol kakobrekla [00:51]
kakobrekla it will end first of feb [00:51]
Anduck *improve it [00:51]
mircea_popescu the idea is for the bet to use the name omg [00:51]
Bugpowder as long as its short? [00:51]
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kakobrekla ya just put whatever after the id [00:51]
mircea_popescu use first 125 chars [00:51]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ya but the idea is to not have to type it out [00:51]
kakobrekla myeah [00:51]
mircea_popescu when i rightclick on a bet, i wanna copy the named url [00:51]
kakobrekla fine fine [00:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00471151 = 4.7115 BTC [+] [00:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1823 @ 0.00471152 = 8.5891 BTC [+] [00:51]
Anduck u could see the bet from the URI itself!!! [00:51]
Anduck u dont need to open the link [00:51]
mircea_popescu elf!!! [00:51]
kakobrekla memorize them [00:51]
Anduck to see what the bet is for [00:51]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/53/kakobrekla-is-not-a-real-coder [00:52]
kakobrekla that works as well [00:52]
mircea_popescu well it's a problem! [00:52]
kakobrekla why? [00:53]
kakobrekla its intentionally so [00:53]
kakobrekla just because of that reason [00:53]
kakobrekla cause someone will want that juice in the url [00:53]
kakobrekla and i can add it in a minute or 10 [00:53]
kakobrekla :) [00:53]
Anduck do it [00:53]
mircea_popescu Anduck you know, for this very valuable obvious observation you get 1 btc [00:53]
kakobrekla i need coffee first. [00:54]
mircea_popescu pick a bet, put an addy in, paste where the btc should go and i'll send it [00:54]
Anduck mircea_popescu: thank you, i'll pick one! haha [00:54]
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Anduck mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/26/ addr 1L9AstSVETkdjk8o3Uev5Ue8vbjASxRm8G aaand i pick NO [00:56]
Anduck no way gavin is giving up yet [00:56]
mircea_popescu sent. [00:56]
Anduck accidently gave u my own address lol [00:58]
Anduck thanks, sent it to bet addr now [00:58]
mircea_popescu lol k [00:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2469 @ 0.00470145 = 11.6079 BTC [-] [01:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 300 @ 0.36086651 = 108.26 BTC [-] [01:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 800 @ 0.24098641 = 192.7891 BTC [+] [01:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 500 @ 0.2969264 = 148.4632 BTC [-] [01:45]
Bugpowder come on [01:47]
Bugpowder buy the fucking 130s [01:47]
Namworld ... no [01:48]
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mircea_popescu lol [01:53]
kakobrekla Namworld did you get my later msg [01:53]
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Namworld no, which one? [01:54]
kakobrekla 19:29.44 ( kakobrekla ) ;;later tell namworld PS, somebody please tell bitvps to fix their SSL certificate, I can't pay my bill with them until they do this. If they don't get their act together right-quick I'm dropping them from the signcryption network. I've been pestering them about this for two weeks now and am pretty unimpressed with the lack of any sort of response. [01:56]
kakobrekla 19:29.45 ( gribble ) The operation succeeded. [01:56]
kakobrekla this one [01:56]
kakobrekla from ET [01:56]
kakobrekla fuckin space aliens using bvps [01:56]
Ukto whats bbet ? [01:57]
mircea_popescu Ukto http://bitbet.us/ [01:57]
Ukto .. [01:58]
Ukto mp [01:58]
Ukto this looks awfully familiar to another site i recently linked you [01:58]
Ukto :P [01:58]
Ukto is this the same site just redone ? [01:58]
Ukto or a diff site knocking them off [01:58]
mircea_popescu um [01:58]
mircea_popescu which ? [01:59]
kakobrekla the one with the baby? [01:59]
Ukto i wann say it was called bitbet [01:59]
Ukto nah [01:59]
Ukto it worked teh exact same way [01:59]
Ukto just a diff look [01:59]
Ukto too lazy to dig thru logs [01:59]
kakobrekla hm? [01:59]
kakobrekla now im curious [01:59]
kakobrekla the only one that has simmilar system is betsofbitcoin [02:00]
Ukto http://betsofbitco.in [02:00]
Ukto yeah [02:00]
kakobrekla a. [02:00]
kakobrekla ya is not the same [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063604 = 6.3604 BTC [-] [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063603 = 3.9434 BTC [-] [02:01]
Ukto apparently :P [02:01]
Namworld Oh, I see it. [02:01]
Namworld I never read the gribble window =/ [02:01]
kakobrekla well, you are welcome [02:01]
kakobrekla :p [02:01]
Namworld When I log in, I get auto-authed [02:02]
Namworld so the window flash anyway and I don't manually check it. [02:02]
Namworld I just assume it's my usual authing. [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00064339 = 3.796 BTC [+] [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065038 = 6.5038 BTC [+] [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00065039 = 0.5854 BTC [+] [02:02]
Namworld Why do you ask me to tell BitVPS something? I was not aware BitVPS was a person. [02:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 901 @ 0.00463113 = 4.1726 BTC [-] [02:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 530 @ 0.00463113 = 2.4545 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00464578 = 2.5552 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 719 @ 0.00471152 = 3.3876 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3642 @ 0.00063603 = 2.3164 BTC [-] [02:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3435 @ 0.0006352 = 2.1819 BTC [-] [02:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2397 @ 0.00464456 = 11.133 BTC [-] [02:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00065039 = 14.4387 BTC [+] [02:41]
PeterL does S.MPOE or s.dice have a higher market cap? [02:42]
pigeons stupid hotel dns taking me to Midwest Photo EXchange [02:43]
pigeons !ticker S.MPOE [02:43]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006352 / 0.00064186 / 0.00065144 (256905 shares, 164.90 BTC), 30day: 0.0005119 / 0.00060777 / 0.00066 (53942947 shares, 32,784.98 BTC) [02:43]
pigeons !ticker S.DICE [02:43]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00463033 / 0.0047888 (110857 shares, 513.30 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334413 / 0.0048 (13774781 shares, 46,064.74 BTC) [02:43]
Anduck pigeons: try mpex.co, not com [02:44]
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pigeons yeah tell my browser not to try .com when my dns doesnt answer for .co [02:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1996 @ 0.00464456 = 9.2705 BTC [-] [02:44]
Anduck :D [02:44]
Anduck lol [02:44]
Anduck then use polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php [02:44]
pigeons that redirects to .co [02:45]
pigeons which i don't get a dns response for [02:46]
pigeons so my browser tries .com [02:46]
pigeons anyway, working now [02:46]
Namworld Lambert? [02:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0046095 = 4.6095 BTC [-] [02:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00460951 = 5.0705 BTC [+] [02:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1234 @ 0.00460951 = 5.6881 BTC [+] [02:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 158 @ 0.00471152 = 0.7444 BTC [+] [02:59]
PeterL What? [02:59]
Namworld Just wondering if it was you. I recall seeing you around the forums. [02:59]
Namworld This be a small community indeed. [03:00]
PeterL Oh,ok. Just me. [03:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10588 @ 0.00065038 = 6.8862 BTC [-] [03:01]
Ukto PeterL [03:04]
Ukto still there? [03:04]
Ukto I was actually just thinking about contacting you [03:04]
mircea_popescu ok, so if anyone interested, bitbet advertising seems like a decent revenue stream too. [03:05]
mircea_popescu it works on a rotator model whereby people can send btc and figure proportionally with the total paid. [03:05]
mircea_popescu all revenue goes to 1CnqxD4NnRsukc1Ni2oZR3ERc2g2WVnqw so it can be easily audited [03:05]
mircea_popescu so far ~22 btc in there. [03:05]
mircea_popescu pigeons how about .ws ? [03:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00473622 = 7.8148 BTC [+] [03:12]
pigeons everything's working now, .ws too [03:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9412 @ 0.00065038 = 6.1214 BTC [-] [03:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3070 @ 0.00065039 = 1.9967 BTC [+] [03:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9918 @ 0.00065196 = 6.4661 BTC [+] [03:17]
mircea_popescu was anopther one, i forget [03:23]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 54 @ 0.192 = 10.368 BTC [+] [03:25]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 296 @ 0.19427821 = 57.5064 BTC [+] [03:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00478879 = 4.7888 BTC [+] [03:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0047888 = 7.1832 BTC [+] [03:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00473622 = 1.6577 BTC [-] [03:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 546 @ 0.00473621 = 2.586 BTC [-] [03:33]
dub forget bitcoins, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2258711/Grime-wave-Surge-theft-Tide-laundry-detergent-used-hard-currency-buy-crack-street.html [03:36]
* jcpham stockpiles tide [03:38]
abracadabra roll tide? [03:39]
jcpham you saw that touchdown? [03:40]
jcpham shit is elite [03:40]
abracadabra they start already? [03:40]
abracadabra doh [03:40]
* abracadabra turns on tv [03:40]
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abracadabra thought it was at 8pm [03:40]
jcpham lacy walked in with the first td [03:41]
jcpham irish is down [03:41]
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dub after 25 ass slaps and only 487 minutes of advertising [03:42]
jcpham ncaa used to not be so bad [03:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 761 @ 0.00472911 = 3.5989 BTC [-] [03:43]
abracadabra wow [03:47]
abracadabra some bad calls [03:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064354 = 3.2177 BTC [-] [03:48]
jcpham i may have to get off irc [03:49]
jcpham and start drinking [03:49]
jcpham the way this is going [03:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20392 @ 0.00064354 = 13.1231 BTC [-] [03:52]
* abracadabra thinks jcpham might be a ND fan [03:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064354 = 6.0493 BTC [-] [03:56]
jcpham nah [03:56]
abracadabra lol [03:58]
abracadabra fumble [03:58]
mircea_popescu dub i bet you the crack you buy for tide has tide in it. [03:58]
abracadabra game over [03:58]
abracadabra ;) [03:58]
abracadabra whoa [03:58]
mircea_popescu everybody http://bitbet.us/browse/ put nfl in and bet :D [03:59]
abracadabra if they review that and still call it a fumble [03:59]
abracadabra the game is fixed [03:59]
jcpham i want t o design a sports book so bad [03:59]
jcpham that has vegas odds and such [03:59]
jcpham i just gave someone a million dollar idea [04:00]
jcpham go forth and multiply [04:00]
* abracadabra does IPO for a bitcoin sportsbook [04:01]
pigeons oh shit, a million dollar idea? i've been waiting for one of those [04:01]
pigeons do dawg i heard you like tide in your crack [04:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00467825 = 4.2104 BTC [-] [04:04]
pigeons http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/07/bitpay-banks-500k-in-angel-investment-to-become-paypal-for-bitcoin-already-has-2100-businesses-on-board/ [04:05]
Dr-G nice [04:06]
mircea_popescu jcpham bugpowder was saying the exact sdame thing [04:07]
pigeons http://cupsandcakesbakery.com/2012/10/buy-cupcakes-with-bitcoins/ [04:08]
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Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [04:13]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00464061 / 0.0047888 (117830 shares, 546.80 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334532 / 0.0048 (13784976 shares, 46,115.26 BTC) [04:13]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [04:13]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.59378, Best ask: 13.63974, Bid-ask spread: 0.04596, Last trade: 13.59377, 24 hour volume: 31951.91670253, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.53367 [04:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064354 = 8.173 BTC [-] [04:15]
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Bugpowder_ BREAKOUT [04:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00457186 = 9.1437 BTC [-] [04:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 242 @ 0.00457185 = 1.1064 BTC [-] [04:19]
Bugpowder_ thank you for buying the 1302 [04:19]
Bugpowder_ 130s [04:19]
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mircea_popescu http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/07/funny-money-pundits-float-1-trillion-coin-as-answer-to-debt-ceiling-standoff/%20?test=latestnews [04:24]
mircea_popescu heh [04:24]
Bugpowder fox news [04:25]
Bugpowder is a constant source of worry [04:25]
Bugpowder for those who like to worry [04:25]
Bugpowder as I said.... the people who say the most bullshit things get the most press, for a while [04:26]
mircea_popescu heh. [04:29]
mircea_popescu not so sure about that. [04:29]
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Bugpowder The gov should just start mining coins [04:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1944 @ 0.0046308 = 9.0023 BTC [+] [04:35]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [04:36]
Bugpowder gribbler [04:36]
Bugpowder whassup? [04:36]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.63401, Best ask: 13.64997, Bid-ask spread: 0.01596, Last trade: 13.63401, 24 hour volume: 31774.26076992, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.53397 [04:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00460593 = 11.2845 BTC [-] [04:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1346 @ 0.00457186 = 6.1537 BTC [-] [04:45]
mircea_popescu Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., told Capital New York that the "out of the ordinary" idea could actually work. [04:51]
mircea_popescu "I'm being absolutely serious," he said. "It sounds silly, but it's absolutely legal." [04:51]
mircea_popescu dude... legal and works are motherfucking worlds apart [04:51]
mircea_popescu the best thing the us could do right now is simply have everyone everyone in washington that ever worked for the govt round up and shot [04:51]
Bugpowder just some ass that wants his name in print [04:51]
mircea_popescu way better than some douchy coin [04:52]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder no see, he;'s not just some ass, he's an elected rep. [04:52]
mircea_popescu "The likelihood of this happening is about as likely as the checkers scenario. But the argument in its favor is that minting a trillion-dollar coin is a commensurately ridiculous response to Congress refusing to pay debts it has already accumulated. " [04:55]
mircea_popescu mno. [04:55]
mircea_popescu this ain't at all the case. congress refusal to lift the ceiling for the 100th time is pretty much the only sane thing going on atm. [04:55]
mircea_popescu and specifically it was NOT congress that accumulated any debt. it was the obama lackeys [04:56]
mircea_popescu let him pay them [04:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1256 @ 0.0046308 = 5.8163 BTC [+] [04:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00465993 = 2.33 BTC [+] [04:56]
mircea_popescu he has awife, she can work, i'd do 10 bux for a blowjob. [04:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 44 @ 0.00467825 = 0.2058 BTC [+] [04:56]
Bugpowder BREAKOUT [05:00]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [05:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.68126, Best ask: 13.69898, Bid-ask spread: 0.01772, Last trade: 13.69899, 24 hour volume: 33966.24160877, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.54459 [05:00]
dub fuck that [05:01]
Bugpowder These are the highest sports bets on betsofbitcoin [05:01]
Bugpowder http://betsofbitco.in/list?status=available&category=Sports&sorting=-totalBets [05:01]
Bugpowder this is the middle of the NFL playoffs [05:01]
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mircea_popescu doesn't seem like much [05:02]
Bugpowder its embarassing [05:02]
Bugpowder there is over 1BB bet on the playoffs [05:03]
Bugpowder legally [05:03]
Bugpowder bitcoin cant get ANY of it? [05:03]
Bugpowder not even 0.00001%? [05:03]
mircea_popescu heh well, apparently not quite this year. [05:04]
mircea_popescu tho, two years ago bitcoin couldn't hardly buy a pizza, so, it's a curve. [05:04]
Bugpowder well [05:04]
Bugpowder betsofbitcoin had more NFL bets last year [05:04]
Bugpowder iirc [05:05]
Bugpowder mostly because I placed them :-P [05:05]
mircea_popescu lol [05:06]
Bugpowder 13.70 [05:09]
Bugpowder 13.71! [05:12]
Dr-X hm nice [05:12]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [05:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.68126, Best ask: 13.68501, Bid-ask spread: 0.00375, Last trade: 13.68125, 24 hour volume: 35430.52112454, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.55233 [05:14]
mircea_popescu low volume tho [05:14]
Bugpowder no [05:15]
Bugpowder high volume [05:15]
Bugpowder since it has been goin up at least [05:15]
Bugpowder not huge [05:16]
Bugpowder but solid [05:16]
Bugpowder ~5,000/hr [05:16]
Bugpowder for the last 8 [05:16]
Bugpowder thats well above the recent average over a timescale of more than 2-3 hours [05:17]
Bugpowder and I have a feeling its not done [05:17]
Bugpowder hmmm [05:17]
Bugpowder it IS a monday.... [05:17]
Bugpowder or was [05:17]
Bugpowder now we just need the S.DICE whales to come back and shit will be rockin [05:18]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [05:18]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.63591, Best ask: 13.70999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07408, Last trade: 13.63590, 24 hour volume: 36239.15878320, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.55595 [05:18]
Bugpowder Also... approaching the Dec 14th high [05:18]
mircea_popescu hehe we see [05:18]
Bugpowder after that, its a post-pirate high [05:19]
Bugpowder And that was basically an interday high [05:20]
Bugpowder intraday high [05:20]
kakobrekla well, express yourself here http://bitbet.us/bet/16/ [05:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064312 = 7.0743 BTC [-] [05:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5517 @ 0.00064311 = 3.548 BTC [-] [05:27]
Dr-X and hopefully the whale loses, I want dividends [05:30]
Dr-X there are no profits yet, revenue has been low, except me losing some coins :P [05:31]
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Bugpowder be patient [05:39]
Bugpowder its usually a week between appearances [05:39]
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Dr-X I just dumped my shares on bitfunder, meh :P [05:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4731 @ 0.00064354 = 3.0446 BTC [+] [05:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26769 @ 0.00064497 = 17.2652 BTC [+] [05:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 802 @ 0.00461807 = 3.7037 BTC [-] [05:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 198 @ 0.00457186 = 0.9052 BTC [-] [05:41]
Bugpowder to do what else with it, exactly? [05:43]
Dr-X rob the dice [05:47]
Dr-X ;O [05:47]
Dr-X 1.9% profit is too low, stock price too high, price will fall when price to dollar goes up I think, I just had too many... :P [05:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3150 @ 0.00464989 = 14.6472 BTC [+] [05:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 456 @ 0.00467825 = 2.1333 BTC [+] [05:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 771 @ 0.00468222 = 3.61 BTC [+] [05:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5250 @ 0.0046881 = 24.6125 BTC [+] [05:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 373 @ 0.00469803 = 1.7524 BTC [+] [05:51]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [05:53]
gribble Current Blocks: 215664 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 47 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 7 hours, 22 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3242850.21341859 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.83374821561 [05:53]
mircea_popescu lol [05:56]
Bugpowder zorb [05:56]
Bugpowder http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ASPgOv7GL7o [05:56]
Dr-X who wants to see me cry? [06:06]
Dr-X 20.01337666 WIN 39.16567812 22359 no one good :P [06:07]
Dr-X I basically just robbed myself [06:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 956 @ 0.00457186 = 4.3707 BTC [-] [06:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1208 @ 0.00457185 = 5.5228 BTC [-] [06:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1036 @ 0.00456935 = 4.7338 BTC [-] [06:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 864 @ 0.00456935 = 3.9479 BTC [-] [06:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00454441 = 2.7266 BTC [-] [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 436 @ 0.00453597 = 1.9777 BTC [-] [06:14]
Dr-X 439.56800000 LOSE 2.19734000 38552 [06:15]
Dr-X holy shit :D [06:15]
Namworld You just lost to yourself? [06:15]
Dr-X no wasn't me [06:15]
Dr-X just saw it ;) [06:16]
Namworld Well you must be happy then [06:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 564 @ 0.00457522 = 2.5804 BTC [-] [06:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00064311 = 1.1788 BTC [-] [06:54]
leotreasure anybody lost money or bitcoins in Crypto X Change on here? [06:55]
leotreasure https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129387.msg1440927#msg1440927 [06:56]
mircea_popescu never used them myself [06:56]
mircea_popescu did it pack up ? [06:56]
leotreasure yes [06:57]
jcpham i also have never used them [06:57]
leotreasure i'm so pissed about losing $3300 [06:57]
jcpham meh [06:58]
leotreasure thinking about winding up the company [06:58]
jcpham that's one moneth's mortgage [06:58]
jcpham 3300 might irritate me [06:58]
mircea_popescu leotreasure http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/ [06:59]
jcpham i live at the very top of a house of cards [06:59]
mircea_popescu you have no business keeping too much money on "exchanges" [06:59]
mircea_popescu jcpham now why'd you do that ? houses of cards are dafty. [06:59]
jcpham my whole country and culture does it [07:00]
jcpham i realize it at least [07:00]
mircea_popescu that's a faggoty excuse [07:00]
jcpham i'm working on it [07:00]
mircea_popescu that's much better >D [07:00]
jcpham it's a process [07:00]
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Dr-X he could go to a country where suicide is covered by life insurance [07:05]
mircea_popescu there's such a country ? [07:05]
kakobrekla aww, shes thinking bout us http://shrani.si/f/19/rN/2d8Tkb6s/think.png [07:05]
Dr-X yes [07:06]
mircea_popescu haha kakobrekla [07:06]
mircea_popescu miiiilk [07:06]
Dr-X in germany suicide is covered after 3 years, before that only if you're crazy [07:06]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu :D [07:06]
mircea_popescu ridiculous. [07:06]
mircea_popescu you changed the header tho ? [07:07]
kakobrekla the logo doesnt go over the banner anymore, no. [07:07]
mircea_popescu ya [07:07]
kakobrekla i had to do it in the end. [07:08]
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mircea_popescu yeah. [07:09]
mircea_popescu i kinda liked it myself, but... yeah. nothing to be done. [07:09]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135762189688.jpg << .1 btc to whoever guesses the girl's occupation. [07:11]
kakobrekla balerina [07:12]
kakobrekla "ballerina" [07:12]
mircea_popescu hehe right. [07:12]
kakobrekla is it not? [07:13]
mircea_popescu yup. [07:13]
mircea_popescu addy ? [07:13]
kakobrekla hm, lets place it on a bet [07:14]
mircea_popescu lolk [07:15]
kakobrekla Send Bitcoins to: [07:15]
kakobrekla 18kjupubYLiCk54XoY4ZReCTGj4NwX7mXU [07:15]
kakobrekla to bet "Yes" on "Bitcoin below 13.00$ before January 15th, 2013 ". [07:15]
kakobrekla Your bet will appear in the confirmed bets list shortly after 1st confirmation. [07:15]
Dr-X Can I bet there without making an account? [07:16]
kakobrekla yup [07:16]
kakobrekla there ya go http://bitbet.us/bet/53/ [07:17]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla do the work man. paste the addy here [07:17]
mircea_popescu a ok nm i didnt see it [07:17]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu I DID [07:17]
mircea_popescu reading from bottom up hehe [07:17]
mircea_popescu Dr-X yes [07:17]
kakobrekla 'there ya go' was for dr-x [07:18]
Dr-X cool, checking out the bets. I think I'm calling my relatives from the andromeda galaxy to visit me soon. [07:19]
kakobrekla :DDD [07:19]
kakobrekla well [07:19]
kakobrekla lemme know if they come in time. [07:19]
mircea_popescu one day some of us were chatting and this girl said about her uncle or w/e that they're relatively related. [07:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00471893 = 2.5954 BTC [+] [07:20]
Dr-X sort for market size would be nice [07:21]
mircea_popescu there is. [07:21]
Dr-X to see where's the money at [07:21]
mircea_popescu click on bitbet logo on the left [07:21]
Dr-X oh ok [07:22]
Dr-X good to know [07:22]
kakobrekla i will add order by bets sum in teh order by field in the browse soonish [07:22]
Dr-X thx, yeah was searching for that ;) [07:23]
kakobrekla been buged about this for a couple of times now [07:23]
Dr-X yeah cool, just made a bet [07:27]
mircea_popescu thank you for your patronage hehe [07:28]
Dr-X yeah, just made more. I think I gave you 0.2 for the lulz :P [07:38]
kakobrekla submit a suggestion for a bet if you come up with something fresh [07:39]
Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [07:39]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.0046243 / 0.0047888 (134087 shares, 620.06 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334889 / 0.0048 (13823119 shares, 46,292.13 BTC) [07:39]
Dr-X australian open is soon, so maybe some tennis? [07:40]
Bugpowder satoshi max bet is up to 500BTC [07:41]
Bugpowder nice [07:41]
kakobrekla that could work, especialy if its womens playing [07:41]
Dr-X 14th to 27th january australian open, but idk if you want too many sport bets [07:41]
kakobrekla will get the interest of mp [07:42]
Dr-X from what I see sport bets work better than those sily bets ;) [07:43]
kakobrekla ya lots of bets on the NFL [07:43]
kakobrekla perhaps tennis will get some traction too [07:43]
kakobrekla honestly dunno [07:44]
Dr-X yeah tennis is nice to bet on [07:44]
Dr-X only two outcomes, not like football [07:44]
kakobrekla :) [07:44]
Dr-X but idk how that works out with weigthed bets [07:47]
kakobrekla sub obtimally i guess [07:47]
kakobrekla this weight system is getting reviewed [07:47]
Dr-X you just bet on both and trade on sport betting sites :P [07:48]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder they changed the lucky number thing for better dispersion [07:49]
mircea_popescu i think the swings are a thing of the past. [07:49]
Bugpowder yes [07:50]
Bugpowder glad they raised max bet to compensate [07:50]
Bugpowder actually [07:50]
Bugpowder I think you can still get some wild swings [07:50]
Bugpowder max swing was around 1333 / bet [07:51]
Bugpowder when they rolled like a 60000 [07:51]
Bugpowder or a <2000 [07:51]
mircea_popescu well you can still bet on under 2 right ? [07:52]
Bugpowder yeah [07:52]
mircea_popescu so 64x 500 = 12k ? [07:52]
Bugpowder probably the variance goes down about 2-3x [07:52]
Bugpowder 414 max at < 1600 is pretty big number [07:52]
Bugpowder 414 max at < 16000 is pretty big number [07:53]
Bugpowder 1242 [07:53]
Bugpowder net gain [07:53]
Bugpowder sheeit [07:53]
Bugpowder heh [07:53]
Bugpowder its the only place with a bankroll big enough for whales [07:54]
Bugpowder they have no other place to bet [07:54]
Bugpowder the rich get richer! [07:54]
Bugpowder Nice! Somebody bet some more coin on NFL. http://bitbet.us/bet/49/ [07:55]
mircea_popescu its the only place with a bankroll big enough for whales << that's what i do. [07:55]
Bugpowder only dice site [07:55]
Dr-X if you look for ltc dices, the biggest one accepts 50 LTC lol. [07:56]
Dr-X max bet [07:56]
Bugpowder I really set the hook in my friend last night. Now he's thinking of rolling his 401k into self-directed IRA and putting it in bitcoins :) [07:57]
Dr-X lol mh [07:57]
mircea_popescu hahaah [07:59]
mircea_popescu tho it'd prolly be best if he put half of it [07:59]
mircea_popescu a third of it [07:59]
mircea_popescu something. [07:59]
mircea_popescu the rationale being that 100k put into btc now will make you "just as rich" as 300k put into btc now. [08:00]
Dr-X you can burn your fingers with bitcoin, if you buying them with hard earned money [08:00]
mircea_popescu on the other hand, losing all your money is not the same as losing a third. [08:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 712 @ 0.00471893 = 3.3599 BTC [+] [08:01]
mircea_popescu Confirmed total: 263 BTC [08:02]
mircea_popescu this srsly isn't bad. [08:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00063621 = 8.0799 BTC [-] [08:05]
kakobrekla off i go [08:07]
kakobrekla nite [08:07]
Namworld night [08:07]
Namworld If he puts it in SD, might not be such a bad deal. SD will probably remain a major Bitcoin betting site for a long time. [08:08]
Namworld Hmm... people are really overbidding on BBET. [08:08]
Namworld Where will be the cheap blocks D= [08:08]
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Namworld and who buys 1.8 million BBET =P [08:10]
Namworld At that price... [08:10]
Bugpowder not the bidder [08:11]
Bugpowder math don't work rite [08:11]
Namworld In S.DICE* [08:11]
Bugpowder yeah [08:12]
Bugpowder I think he will not roll it all in [08:13]
Bugpowder probably just put $500 / mo in [08:13]
Namworld At that price for BBET, 10 million would cost 2775 BTC. BBET would need to get 277 500 BTC in bets to get that back in fees for dividends... [08:13]
Namworld Damn... [08:13]
Bugpowder Over the course of its existence [08:13]
mircea_popescu at the rate it;s going atm, it will do that in ~10 years [08:14]
mircea_popescu not counting advertising revenue [08:14]
mircea_popescu o im sorry. 1000 days not 10 years. 3 years. [08:14]
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Bugpowder Man, my matlab bet optimizer doesn't handle the time decay [08:14]
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Namworld Hmm, still quite some time. [08:14]
Namworld Advertising revenue eh? [08:14]
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mircea_popescu this discussion reminds me of s.dice cca august. [08:14]
Dr-X and what happens if the bitcoin price in dollar rises? price of the stock goes down? [08:15]
Namworld Maybe either BitVPS or Namworld could sponsor an ad on BBET. [08:15]
mircea_popescu Dr-X hasn't happened to far. [08:15]
mircea_popescu s,mpoe went up like 3000% while the btc went up like 300% in dollars. [08:15]
mircea_popescu Namworld not a bad idea. it's a pay as much as you want 30 days rotator deal. [08:15]
Dr-X hm ok ;) [08:15]
Namworld Interesting. [08:15]
Dr-X so you're rich now, congratz :D [08:16]
mircea_popescu Dr-X they're purely btc businesses. the dollar don't enter into it. [08:16]
Namworld People seem to bet just as much BTC when it's 1$ per BTC or if it's 20$ per BTC [08:16]
Namworld They just bet it. [08:16]
Dr-X If I have 50 BTC and my goal is more money and more BTC what do I do? [08:17]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [08:17]
Namworld Buy some S.DICE [08:17]
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Bugpowder BREAKOUT [08:17]
Namworld or something like that. [08:17]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [08:18]
Namworld BREAKOUT: Gribble Edition [08:18]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.68386, Best ask: 13.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12614, Last trade: 13.81000, 24 hour volume: 41310.15984901, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.81000, 24 hour vwap: 13.59046 [08:18]
Dr-X yeah, but my fear is that the price of the share will go down, when the price per btc goes up [08:18]
Namworld Hmm, than that makes it more USD safe, but you'd earn less if BTC prices rise. [08:19]
Dr-X how do value a company, it is worth 500k btc and 6,500,000 dollar (easier to calculate) [08:20]
Bugpowder It had $230,000 in profit last month [08:20]
Bugpowder PROFIT [08:20]
Namworld Well I guess you'd value it on revenue. [08:20]
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Dr-X no growth assumed when the price per btc doubles it will be worth 250k btc and 6,500,000 dollarz? [08:21]
mircea_popescu i wonder how many irl businesses are still making profit [08:21]
Bugpowder bitcoin prices went up [08:21]
mircea_popescu not ebidta bs window washing [08:21]
Bugpowder volume went up [08:21]
Namworld mircea, most of them? [08:21]
mircea_popescu Namworld i doubt it. [08:21]
mircea_popescu 5th year of worldwide recession [08:21]
Bugpowder mircea_popescu IRL corporations are actually making shitloads right now [08:21]
Namworld At least when excluding small businesses [08:21]
mircea_popescu i'd be surprised if there's a thousand left. [08:21]
Bugpowder CMI [08:21]
Bugpowder Corp balanace sheets are basically all time healthiest [08:22]
Namworld I'd be surprised if there was less than a million left... [08:22]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder not if you properly account for the currency risk [08:22]
Bugpowder except those with financial exposure [08:22]
Bugpowder financials [08:22]
Bugpowder lol [08:22]
mircea_popescu >D [08:22]
Dr-X they do too, bank stocks are the best right now [08:22]
Bugpowder The banks are all bankrupt [08:23]
Namworld We're not in a catastrophic recession. Many businesses cut jobs or make less profits. [08:23]
Bugpowder but... they probably won't fail [08:23]
mircea_popescu and that pretty much says the whole story. [08:23]
Namworld But most shops, corp, etc you see all around still make a profit. [08:23]
Bugpowder SP500 earnings are very very high right now [08:23]
mircea_popescu no, they won't fail, they just poison the economy with worthless receipts [08:23]
mircea_popescu pirate style. [08:23]
Bugpowder very efficient [08:23]
Dr-X no they're not bankrupt, they have a shitload of own equity [08:23]
mircea_popescu basically this is exactly btc economy cca july : everyone's balance sheets were all time flush with cash [08:24]
Bugpowder the banks have a shitload of bad loans that are not being marked to market [08:24]
mircea_popescu except not really. [08:24]
Bugpowder although much has be given to fed at par [08:24]
Bugpowder as collatoral [08:24]
mircea_popescu plenty of dead walking, and it's impossible not to do business with them [08:24]
mircea_popescu i mean, i could do it in btc, cause it's small and people are idiots [08:24]
mircea_popescu irl i couldn't do it, and so i assume nobody else can either. [08:24]
Bugpowder Dude, China is still growing at 7% [08:25]
mircea_popescu pff. [08:25]
Bugpowder you are way to pessimistic [08:25]
mircea_popescu the news i see from china are pretty bad. [08:25]
Bugpowder on global corp health [08:25]
mircea_popescu they're getting riots almost on par with the us by now. [08:25]
Dr-X good fiat economy is bad for him :P [08:25]
Namworld But in Canada everything is fine. [08:26]
mircea_popescu Dr-X thing is i was of the same persuasion before discovering btc. [08:26]
Bugpowder http://www.multpl.com [08:27]
Bugpowder US? [08:27]
Bugpowder riots? [08:27]
Bugpowder where? [08:27]
Dr-X some bets on satoshi show up 3 times in recent [08:27]
Namworld Everything is always fine in Canada... nothing much happening. Just people saying "Eh?" all the time and mooses. [08:28]
mircea_popescu isn't it meece ? [08:30]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder occupy movements, whatever. [08:31]
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Bugpowder Compared to the race riots of the 60s and 70s, I think we are doing pretty damn well [08:33]
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Bugpowder Whole Foods opening stores in downtown Detroit yo [08:34]
mircea_popescu lol [08:34]
mircea_popescu i didn't mean the us is particularly turmoily [08:34]
mircea_popescu i meant that it's outrageous for china [08:34]
Bugpowder China doing pretty well compared to 70s as well [08:35]
mircea_popescu not really. [08:37]
mircea_popescu back then they were poor. [08:37]
mircea_popescu they had no alternative. [08:37]
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Namworld Possible, my english might not be that good. [08:43]
midnightmagic Canada is not fine. The moron voting public voted in Harper based on promises of infrastructure investment which haven't materialized, and now we have a rapidly deteriorating legislature which consists of a bunch of idealogical idiots essentially ignoring the entire canadian public and dismantling some of our most cherished institutions and rights. [08:49]
mircea_popescu lol i was waiting for this [08:50]
midnightmagic Meanwhile, their own f*cking MPs are DM'ing people like myself and mocking us because we said they were going to be toast in the next election. [08:50]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic, go make a bet! --> http://bitbet.us [08:50]
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midnightmagic "our" own MPs. [08:50]
midnightmagic I no longer have confidence, since making that statement, that my fellow voters are capable of a rational voting decision. [08:51]
mircea_popescu voters never are and never were capable of rational decision. that's not how voting works. [08:51]
mod6 ^^^^ [08:51]
mod6 baaaaaa. [08:51]
midnightmagic It has in the past. Additionally, at least some people are voting with their ideals because Elizabeth May made it in. [08:52]
mircea_popescu for that matter, women don't pick men rationally either. [08:52]
midnightmagic now there's a true f'ing statement if i ever heard one. [08:52]
mircea_popescu voting is just a cheap method of statistically obtaining a call from the multitude. [08:52]
mod6 people usually vote their wallets, and additionally always pick the precived winner before hand. voters don't like to vote for a loser, even if that candidate is more closely aligned with their political philosiphies. [08:52]
midnightmagic Here, each vote *used* to deliver some small amount of federal funding to the party voted for as a way of fostering independent third parties. [08:53]
mircea_popescu it's not rational, it's quite the opposite. but it has a historical record of conservation success. [08:53]
midnightmagic mod6: Apparently some of us do like to vote for a loser. Elizabeth May is in office. :) [08:53]
mod6 HEHEH [08:53]
mircea_popescu now i have to look up who that is [08:53]
midnightmagic I saw her grand-daughters bare ass at a dinner once. she was wearing a mini-skirt and kept hugging people taller than she is. [08:54]
midnightmagic (highschool grad) [08:54]
midnightmagic Super uncomfortable dinner. [08:54]
mircea_popescu why lol [08:54]
mod6 HAHAH [08:54]
midnightmagic Why was it uncomfortable? [08:55]
mircea_popescu sure. you can't eat with women you've seen the ass of ? [08:56]
midnightmagic Bare asses of unknown other people mean bare asses are sitting on the seats I sit in. It reminded me of how unhygienic being out for dinner is and I like to suspend my disbelief for a little while. [08:56]
midnightmagic Also it was classless for the grand-daughter of the leader of one of the main political parties in Canada to dress like that. [08:57]
mircea_popescu seriously!? [08:57]
mircea_popescu she's a teen! she's supposed to go around barebutt [08:57]
mod6 haha, wow. i probably wouldt have given it a second thought. i must be a savage. [08:57]
midnightmagic It either meant she was conscious of her dress choice, or not. If she wasn't, then it was uncomfortable watching her accidentally and apparently unconciously bare her ass seven or eight times. [08:58]
mod6 lol [08:58]
mod6 people are just attention whores these das. [08:59]
mod6 *days [08:59]
mircea_popescu you actually care tghat you're sitting where some other chick sat ?! [08:59]
midnightmagic If she was, then.. why? Who's her audience? A bunch of stuffy people at a calm atmosphere restaurant where people are coming in from the cold (it was damn cold) and eating soup in their flannels? [08:59]
midnightmagic lol [08:59]
mircea_popescu her audience is simply the world. she's not old enough to know y'all aren't worth the trouble yet. [09:00]
mircea_popescu you should be flattered. [09:00]
midnightmagic Meanwhile, it was like none of the rest of her family noticed that they were making everyone uncomfortable. [09:00]
midnightmagic Yeah, in that sense it was f'ing awesome. [09:00]
midnightmagic And in the sense that the leader of some political party has raised a family to be essentially unfettered, dress-wise. [09:00]
midnightmagic That I appreciated. [09:01]
mod6 Well, does anyone remember the bush daughters? LOL [09:01]
midnightmagic Were they all racy too? [09:01]
mod6 omg [09:01]
midnightmagic I don't remember them so much.. [09:01]
mod6 lmao [09:01]
midnightmagic lol [09:01]
mircea_popescu one of them took off her underwear in public once [09:02]
mircea_popescu put something else on [09:02]
midnightmagic whoah [09:02]
mircea_popescu classless lol. [09:02]
mircea_popescu you live in the colonies. what class ? [09:02]
midnightmagic Ever been to Canada? [09:03]
mircea_popescu for about two hours once, off nh [09:04]
midnightmagic :P [09:04]
mircea_popescu i was jus' ribbin ye a little. [09:04]
midnightmagic so, quiet, you and your colonies references. [09:04]
midnightmagic i know [09:04]
mircea_popescu im sure canada is just as classless as the rest of the world, that's what we have the internet for [09:04]
midnightmagic ^^ that [09:05]
mircea_popescu classlessness uniformity. [09:05]
midnightmagic people used to punch out other people for being classless. manners made it around pretty good. [09:05]
mircea_popescu nobody punched anybody over class lol. at most they furrowed their brows and whined privately. [09:05]
midnightmagic no way. Not much earlier than my grandfather's era, ignoring someone who said hello to you was a punch-out-able offence. [09:06]
mircea_popescu but going around punching people is not too classy now is it. [09:08]
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midnightmagic Sure. People were admired for their fists. [09:08]
midnightmagic Righteous fisticuffs. [09:08]
mircea_popescu i guess if you can't afford a rapier or w/e [09:09]
midnightmagic right. black eyes heal. Put the boxing gloves on and get your differences out in the open. Did you ever see the Mickey Mouse club episodes where they put two fighting boys in the ring together and let them duke it out? [09:09]
mircea_popescu i never saw mickey mouse club at all [09:10]
midnightmagic I was wide-eyed shocked when I saw that. [09:11]
mircea_popescu but i know i resented at that age the implication of equality in this method [09:11]
midnightmagic And then my dad started telling me stories of grandpa.. :) [09:11]
mircea_popescu i always had my differences resolved by overwhelming forcve. [09:11]
midnightmagic different times man [09:11]
mircea_popescu i guess so [09:11]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: So! Got anything you're actively ranting about lately? [09:13]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/whats-a-rogue-state/ like ? [09:13]
midnightmagic Bitcoin-related? [09:14]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/ ok try that then [09:15]
midnightmagic Woops, "begging the question" doesn't mean "raising the question". [09:18]
* midnightmagic is sorry and couldn't help it [09:18]
mircea_popescu lol [09:19]
midnightmagic geh.. Voorhees is such a weird gonzo [09:22]
mircea_popescu lol ? [09:22]
midnightmagic We'll see what happens to sdice when asic are delivered.. :-) [09:23]
mircea_popescu there's a relation ? [09:23]
midnightmagic I hope so! [09:23]
midnightmagic Future-tense. [09:23]
mircea_popescu what'd it be ? [09:23]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/40/ btw. [09:24]
midnightmagic Redistribution of hashrate, in some cases to people who care what happens with the blockchain. [09:24]
mircea_popescu lol [09:25]
mircea_popescu im not too concerned about miners deciding to ruin bitcoin. [09:25]
midnightmagic Not ruin it. [09:25]
mod6 its kinda like rg said once, if bitcoin can't handle the tx's from SD, then we should pack up and shut off the lights now. [09:26]
mircea_popescu the moment bitcoin is not transaction agnostic it might as well be dead. [09:26]
mod6 but... that doesn't mean there couldn't be a better way to do it either. [09:26]
mircea_popescu who do you think wants to ask miners' permission ? [09:26]
midnightmagic but sdice operates inside the txn space, which makes it easy to filter. If they operated the way everyone else normal does, and stopped doing those stupid micro-txn, then meh. [09:26]
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midnightmagic it can. but there isn't enough incentive due to concentration of txn value. also, rg isn't really much of an authority :) [09:27]
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mod6 midnightmagic: no. but he said it, and I agree :) [09:27]
mircea_popescu this is just posturing on the strength of the block reward being still large-ish [09:27]
mod6 just giving credit where due, etc. [09:27]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: the value of keeping sdice txn in the blockchain is less than the value of keeping diffuse txn in the blockchain, including mixnets btw. [09:28]
midnightmagic and miners are the ones who set fee structures. [09:28]
mircea_popescu this is a moot question [09:28]
midnightmagic that is part of the whole nature of bitcoin. [09:28]
mircea_popescu nobody's to evaluate the value of keeping a tx in the blockchain [09:28]
mircea_popescu other than the issuer of the tx. [09:28]
mircea_popescu miners stick with this or get lost. [09:29]
midnightmagic that's not true. :) [09:29]
mircea_popescu hey, it's the exact standard [09:29]
mircea_popescu but you're welcome to establish it through experience if simple theory doesn't cut it for ya. [09:29]
midnightmagic the exact standard has fees, and the code has anti-dust-spam exceptions in it. satoshi foresaw operations like sdice. [09:29]
mod6 *whew* almost forgot that mtdew in the freezer [09:29]
midnightmagic hah, lol. [09:29]
mircea_popescu i guess at some point the split between the people who matter and the people who think they know better is inevitable [09:30]
mircea_popescu contrary to what the people who think they know better think, their fall into oblivion will be immediate. [09:30]
midnightmagic let other people who don't care, mine sdice txn, and take the hit to block propagation. the incentive is against including sdice txn in the blockchain. [09:31]
mircea_popescu yeah, i guess time will tell. [09:31]
mircea_popescu the incentive really is against including miners who don't ihnclude transactions into bitcoin. [09:31]
midnightmagic that's not true. even miners who do *no* txn in their blocks are still burying txn in work. [09:31]
midnightmagic they're still securing the blockchain. [09:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00477167 = 2.6244 BTC [+] [09:32]
mircea_popescu you'll at some point have to come to terms with the cold reality that about half of bitcoin's utility atm is s.dice [09:32]
mircea_popescu i know you like bitcoin in principle. but in practical terms, it's useless other than because its that thing where sdice happens. [09:32]
mircea_popescu "not including" the filling in the donut is pracrtically speaking not including yourself among the donut makers. [09:33]
mircea_popescu because donuts WILL be made. [09:33]
midnightmagic lol hilarious analogy. But! Are they Tim Horton's doughnuts, or Krispy Kremes? [09:34]
mircea_popescu apparently they're E Vor Hee's [09:34]
midnightmagic man fuck that guy.. lol [09:34]
mircea_popescu he's amusing to me because looky here : the consensus was that mining corps are the big deal. [09:35]
mircea_popescu out of nowhere comes this dood, and suddenly his corp is larger than all the asic producers together [09:35]
mircea_popescu and makes more revenue to boot. [09:35]
midnightmagic it was? [09:35]
mircea_popescu completely blindsides market, it's hysterical to watch reactions etc. [09:36]
mircea_popescu well yes it was. glbse practically consisted of pirate passthroughs and mining farms. [09:36]
midnightmagic good lord no. ASIC producers are internally parasitic. The value derives from a parasitic self-consumption of economic worth. [09:36]
mircea_popescu the what ?! [09:37]
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mod6 hmmm [09:39]
midnightmagic Ah, that's not consensus. [09:40]
mircea_popescu mh [09:40]
midnightmagic The what what..? [09:40]
mircea_popescu i dunnop lol [09:41]
midnightmagic The value of mining is a finite value and can't exceed some fraction of the value of the bitcoin economy.. [09:41]
mircea_popescu right. [09:41]
midnightmagic It's cannibalizing some of its own worth in order to secure itself. [09:41]
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midnightmagic "securing itself" includes disincentivizing b-s like the DDoS that sdice is. :-) [09:42]
midnightmagic imo.. [09:42]
mircea_popescu nah, asic (real asic) is actual research. [09:43]
mircea_popescu the bs going on currently is cannibalizing some of btc's perception for private gain [09:43]
mircea_popescu sorta like someone selling haagen dasz icecream made in nj as "classy" yurpean stuff. [09:43]
midnightmagic the funding for the research can't happen if selling bitcoin rewards doesn't support it though.. [09:44]
midnightmagic yeah i don't understand that. there's a simple metric to finding the best ice cream in a store.. [09:44]
midnightmagic weigh it and calculate density. [09:44]
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mircea_popescu sure it can. research that's not justified economically happens all the time [09:44]
mircea_popescu it's what research actually is, for that matter. [09:44]
midnightmagic ah, usually that's publically-funded though. [09:45]
midnightmagic s/usually/often/ [09:45]
mod6 lol: (23:44) < midnightmagic> weigh it and calculate density. <<< don't you just go by flavor? [09:45]
midnightmagic mod6: that comes next. [09:45]
mod6 oh. [09:45]
mod6 srry. [09:45]
midnightmagic mod6: And no, I refuse to buy whipped-air ice cream. It's inferior quality. [09:45]
midnightmagic mod6: Notice they sell ice cream by volume. Which really cheeses me off. But the denser it is, the more cream:air ratio it has. [09:46]
mircea_popescu you ever been to europe ? [09:46]
midnightmagic who me? [09:46]
midnightmagic I've always wanted to. [09:47]
mircea_popescu yeah well, that's the icecream metric. [09:47]
mircea_popescu have some proper gelato. [09:47]
midnightmagic I've had proper gelato. [09:47]
mod6 thats like an ICEE right? [09:48]
midnightmagic I make ice cream; I used to sell it by the tonne. 1 metric tonne every two weeks or so. [09:48]
midnightmagic Scopped out into cones.. [09:48]
mod6 you make 1 metric ton of icecream per week? [09:48]
mod6 err two weeks?! [09:48]
mircea_popescu oh ok then [09:48]
mod6 hahah, do you run a ice cream parlor? [09:48]
makomk malaimo markedathome|wth maximian midnightmagic MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mod6 [09:49]
makomk malaimo markedathome|wth maximian midnightmagic MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mod6 [09:49]
* mircea_popescu wonders how much midnightmagic weighs [09:49]
midnightmagic No, I sold 1 metric tonne of ice cream every two weeks, scooped out by myself. I was very young. [09:49]
mircea_popescu by volume [09:49]
midnightmagic I make my own ice cream because so much of it sucks in the stores and nobody knows any different. [09:49]
mod6 wow [09:49]
pigeons i used to be a fax server when i was young [09:49]
mod6 home made icecream is better if i recall, i haven't had it in about 25 years. [09:49]
mod6 lol pigeons [09:50]
midnightmagic lol awesome [09:50]
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midnightmagic mircea_popescu: In the big 20L containers, if there's air in there it melts more rapidly and nobody will buy it. [09:50]
midnightmagic i miss access to those things. they're really great for berry picking. [09:51]
mircea_popescu lol this guy's a bear. [09:51]
mircea_popescu on the internet nobody knows. except one can guess. [09:51]
mod6 im like O.o [09:51]
mod6 this guy picks berries, makes 2 ton vats of ice cream and still finds time to hang in -assets! [09:52]
midnightmagic lol no, when I was younger. [09:52]
mircea_popescu you forgot highschooler butt [09:52]
mod6 hahah [09:52]
midnightmagic well that was just a few months ago. [09:52]
mircea_popescu when you were also younger [09:53]
midnightmagic technically i guess. [09:53]
midnightmagic mod6: You don't pick berries? [09:53]
mod6 well, actually, this year I did for the first time in many years. I was just thinking about that... kinda nice and quiet -- except for the damn bees. [09:54]
mircea_popescu i don't think it's legal in his country [09:54]
midnightmagic :) I knew it. [09:55]
mod6 I had a female prodding me to leave the house/computer and do some berry picking. worked out well, got some nice ones. [09:55]
mod6 i did my best to look like i was enjoying myself actually. [09:55]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: You should come out and pick berries with me. It's like meditating, and at the end we make pie. [09:56]
mircea_popescu maybe after the collapse of the us i visit that corner of the world again [09:56]
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mod6 Yeah. I'm hoping that comes soon, because shit is way too far out of wack over here. [09:57]
mircea_popescu decade-ish [09:58]
mod6 It's hard to enjoy anything these days. Songs on the radio, tv shows, holidays... all seem to be overshaowed by the darkining war clouds. [09:58]
midnightmagic mod6: You sound like maybe you're east-coast? [09:59]
mod6 na. i hate the east coast. [09:59]
mod6 no offense east coast! lo [09:59]
mod6 l [09:59]
mod6 but im from Minnesota, and I spent a large amount of time in Arizona. [09:59]
midnightmagic mod6: Aw. I was going to ask if you've seen any wintergreens the last few years. I remember them being exceedingly rare. [09:59]
mod6 Hmm, not sure what those are. [10:00]
midnightmagic mod6: Ever had wint-o-green lifesavers? [10:00]
mod6 I've been to the east coast a number of times. The only thing I learned while there is everyone is a larger asshole than back home, and no one stops for red lights. [10:00]
mod6 Oh, yeah. Those are good. :) [10:01]
midnightmagic mod6: That's a little like what the berries taste like. [10:02]
mod6 ohh right on. here I just picked some rasberries. the apples wernt ready sadly. [10:02]
midnightmagic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintergreen [10:03]
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midnightmagic very very rare, they grow at the base of certain trees. [10:03]
mod6 Wow, I had no idea. [10:04]
mod6 Check this out: During the American Revolution, wintergreen leaves were used as a substitute for tea, which was scarce. [10:04]
mod6 cool. [10:04]
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pigeons picking berries on the east coast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_drink [10:05]
midnightmagic delicious. if you ever get a chance, try one or two of the berries. transcendent flavour experience. :) [10:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00475368 = 2.8522 BTC [+] [10:10]
mod6 this thing says its posion lol [10:14]
mod6 Danger: [10:14]
mod6 Parts of plant are poisonous if ingested [10:14]
mod6 One thing that I like about Canada: Formitable Hockey Players. [10:16]
mod6 Every now and then I would have to travel to winnepeg to play the teams up there. Those guys were huge and almost as mean as me. [10:16]
mod6 Always seems like the american teams we played were some real candyasses. [10:17]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [16:42]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [16:42]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 [16:42]
mircea_popescu ahh so what's new [16:42]
jurov hi, brendio surfaced [16:44]
mircea_popescu o that's good [16:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00464179 = 4.1776 BTC [+] [16:50]
jurov oh, and if anyone prefers to claim BIB.BVPS via coinbr, let yourself be heard: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87358.20;topicseen [16:52]
mircea_popescu that's even better. [16:56]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell namjies oh, and if anyone prefers to claim BIB.BVPS via coinbr, let yourself be heard: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87358.20;topicseen [16:57]
gribble The operation succeeded. [16:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 196 @ 0.00464179 = 0.9098 BTC [+] [17:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00467175 = 1.1679 BTC [+] [17:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00467883 = 9.3577 BTC [+] [17:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 811 @ 0.00468254 = 3.7975 BTC [+] [17:00]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [17:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.73336, Best ask: 13.76960, Bid-ask spread: 0.03624, Last trade: 13.75950, 24 hour volume: 46393.77110328, 24 hour low: 13.40403, 24 hour high: 13.83000, 24 hour vwap: 13.62512 [17:00]
mircea_popescu o hey. [17:00]
Anduck hey mircea_popescu why dont bitbet just show how much the winning ratio for each bet is [17:03]
mircea_popescu doesn't it ? [17:03]
Anduck Weighted No: 534`511 [17:04]
Anduck Weighted Yes: 793`307 [17:04]
Anduck how the duck i decipher this? [17:04]
mircea_popescu but that's exactly what a ratio is neh ? [17:04]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 534511 / 793307 [17:04]
gribble 0.673775726169 [17:04]
Anduck well maybe it should show that on the page, too.. [17:04]
Anduck i've got no idea what i win if i bet 1 btc on a bet [17:04]
Anduck if it shows info like Weighted No: 534`511 [17:04]
Anduck Weighted Yes: 793`307 [17:04]
mircea_popescu that's an idea [17:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064571 = 4.6491 BTC [+] [17:06]
pigeons https://www.ultimafund.com/ [17:06]
pigeons Welcome, Dear Investor! [17:08]
mircea_popescu I am MAria [17:08]
mircea_popescu Please to loved you. [17:08]
mircea_popescu Yearly return: -21.90% [17:09]
mircea_popescu sweet [17:09]
mircea_popescu liek, better than btcjam, 78.1% [17:09]
mircea_popescu MOAR THAN MARKET of 77.whatever thefuck it was [17:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064553 = 7.359 BTC [-] [17:09]
Bugpowder That fund is not investing well [17:10]
mircea_popescu don't be a hater nao [17:10]
Bugpowder Nov 28 share price 0.88, Today 0.92 [17:10]
mircea_popescu Fund size: 2092.05 BTC [17:11]
mircea_popescu Deposit fee: 3.00% [17:11]
mircea_popescu Profit fee: 10.00% [17:11]
mircea_popescu holy shit [17:11]
pigeons See we're not a ponzi! [17:11]
mircea_popescu dude [17:11]
Bugpowder My 'fund' share price Nov. 28 = 0.782 [17:11]
mircea_popescu i should start a fund doing 3% off the top and 10% profit. [17:11]
Bugpowder My 'fund' share price today = 1.094 [17:11]
pigeons who is giving him money? I doubt anyone [17:11]
Bugpowder I take 2/10 [17:11]
mircea_popescu ya but you have a gf [17:11]
Bugpowder most hedge funds are 2 & 20 [17:12]
mircea_popescu ya but they ALSO have gfs. [17:12]
Bugpowder what is a gf? [17:12]
mircea_popescu girlfriend [17:12]
mircea_popescu im not paying someone with no track record 3%, 2% or any %. [17:12]
Bugpowder lol [17:12]
Bugpowder yeah [17:12]
mircea_popescu profit only for him. [17:13]
Bugpowder I would rather invest by myself [17:13]
pigeons He should start a S.DICE passthrough [17:13]
Bugpowder but 3/10 is not obscene, if he was running a decent fund [17:13]
mircea_popescu if he was somebody it would be obscene [17:13]
mircea_popescu as in, 50% over what's common. [17:14]
Bugpowder SAC took 3/50 [17:14]
mircea_popescu if he's nobody it's insanity [17:14]
mircea_popescu dude SAC. is this sac ? [17:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00465113 = 3.2558 BTC [-] [17:14]
Bugpowder lol [17:14]
mircea_popescu well ? [17:14]
Bugpowder 2&20 is standard [17:14]
mircea_popescu you know, brad pitt made a lot of money [17:14]
mircea_popescu therefore i shall be paid when i sing in the shower. [17:14]
Bugpowder Someone should start a fund with the tagline "The SAC of Bitcoin" [17:14]
pigeons I bet people would feel happy to pay the 3% deposit fee and think they were getting away with not paying 30 BTC mpex registration [17:15]
mircea_popescu Scottish Agricultural College of Bitcoin ? [17:15]
Anduck pigeons: is that a joke? [17:15]
mircea_popescu pigeons you see what a business enabler i am ? [17:15]
Bugpowder pigeons, actually that is why I take 2 [17:15]
Bugpowder to defray the account fee [17:15]
Bugpowder :) [17:15]
topace or you could just do it without a setup/deposit fee, like havelock investments :p [17:16]
pigeons 5% [17:16]
Anduck how many here have actually paid the 30btc MPEX reg fee? [17:16]
Bugpowder I paid 20 [17:16]
pigeons i got it free [17:16]
mircea_popescu hundreds. [17:16]
Anduck hundreds - liar [17:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1941 @ 0.00453282 = 8.7982 BTC [-] [17:16]
mircea_popescu dude it's in the monthly reports. [17:16]
Bugpowder If you have >500 BTC to invest, its not a big deal [17:16]
Anduck link please [17:16]
mircea_popescu ... [17:17]
Bugpowder probably the average MPEX account has >500 [17:17]
Anduck i am very doubtful on that _hundreds_ would've paid 30 btc mpex reg fee [17:17]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ [17:17]
mircea_popescu there, all the links in the bottom. [17:17]
Dr-X I would charge people for this chat, so that the poor people stay out [17:17]
mircea_popescu you're very doubtful. why is that exactly ? [17:17]
Bugpowder S.DICE returned 5% this month [17:17]
mircea_popescu Dr-X prolly public access to the trade chan is a thing of limited timespan [17:18]
jurov ";;later tell namjies" - but he rebranded himself, will he get it still? [17:18]
Bugpowder ;;calc 30/.05 [17:18]
gribble 600 [17:18]
mircea_popescu jurov iirc he logs as namjies neh ? [17:18]
Bugpowder o wait, stock price is up 40% too [17:18]
Bugpowder ;;calc 30/.45 [17:18]
gribble 66.6666666667 [17:18]
Anduck sorry but where do i see the actual numbers of registred accounts, mircea_popescu? [17:18]
mircea_popescu its reported in the mpex statement as revenue from new accounts. [17:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 549 @ 0.00455133 = 2.4987 BTC [+] [17:20]
pigeons again, has havelock ever shown a non-doctored statement yet? [17:20]
Anduck ahh [17:20]
mircea_popescu pigeons yeah [17:20]
mircea_popescu on the third try but they did it. gpg has a curve. [17:20]
Anduck nov 12 seems to have had 240 from new accs, making it 8 new accounts, right? [17:20]
mircea_popescu anywhere between 8 and 12. [17:21]
mircea_popescu there's a referral scheme [17:21]
Anduck which works how? [17:21]
pigeons give your key id, both get 5 btc [17:21]
mircea_popescu new user names referrer by keyid, the both get 5 btc. tis in the faq. [17:21]
Anduck 'aight [17:21]
pigeons someone else mentioned it yesterday [17:21]
mircea_popescu it's starting to possibly dawn on people (one year later) that making 5 btc per signup is not at all a bad deal [17:22]
mircea_popescu heck, porn doesn't pay that. [17:22]
topace pigeons: what do you mean? havelock non doctored statement?? [17:23]
pigeons topace: i mean that havelock cut out the gpg signature [17:23]
topace i'll give you one right now [17:23]
pigeons so we can't verify its authenticity [17:23]
mircea_popescu nah they published a proper one eventually. [17:24]
pigeons ok. [17:25]
topace http://www.lightbox.ca/~james/stat.for.pigeons.txt [17:25]
topace pigeons: please verify [17:26]
pigeons gpg: Signature made Tue 08 Jan 2013 10:24:48 AM EST using DSA key ID F1B69921 [17:26]
pigeons gpg: Good signature from "MP Stock Exchange (Visit http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/) " [17:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00063566 = 6.4837 BTC [-] [17:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1702 @ 0.00064571 = 1.099 BTC [+] [17:26]
pigeons thanks [17:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8076 @ 0.00064708 = 5.2258 BTC [+] [17:26]
topace lol and now you know my s.bbet bid :p [17:26]
pigeons :) [17:26]
topace public offering that started this morning is half sold out too [17:27]
topace will bring us to 250,000 shares [17:27]
pigeons pretty good response [17:27]
pigeons nice to hear from you topace i didnt know havelock was here [17:29]
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kakobrekla he quit on you. [17:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00064886 = 13.107 BTC [+] [17:32]
pigeons i have that effect [17:32]
mircea_popescu lol [17:33]
jurov mircea_popescu, care to look on withdrawals? [17:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00065195 = 10.04 BTC [+] [17:37]
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topace oops sorry pigeons saw nothing after "pretty good response" [17:37]
topace yea, im surprised at the response [17:38]
topace but ill keep buying shares and issuing units on havelock if the demand is there [17:38]
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kakobrekla 16:27.24 ( pigeons ) pretty good response [17:40]
kakobrekla 16:29.32 ( pigeons ) nice to hear from you topace i didnt know havelock was here [17:40]
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kakobrekla 16:32.04 ( kakobrekla ) he quit on you. [17:40]
kakobrekla 16:32.49 ( @assbot ) [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00064886 = 13.107 BTC [+] [17:40]
kakobrekla 16:32.53 ( pigeons ) i have that effect [17:40]
topace haha [17:40]
topace aparently my office connection sucks today [17:40]
topace kakobrekla: mircea_popescu said there might be a possibility to interface with assbot for traders on havelock? [17:41]
kakobrekla pm me and we talk. [17:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00467745 = 7.7178 BTC [+] [17:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00458277 = 3.2079 BTC [-] [17:44]
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jurov I bet people would feel happy to pay the 3% deposit fee and think they were getting away with not paying 30 BTC mpex registration [17:46]
jurov ^ what makes you so sure? [17:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00065195 = 2.999 BTC [+] [17:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00065196 = 5.1179 BTC [+] [17:48]
jurov oh, disregard that. even 1BTC/year for coinbr is too much to these. with burnside placed himself on prominent place. [17:51]
jurov and you next to him, ofc [17:53]
thestringpuller q [17:57]
jurov what's unclear? there just seems to be a group of people unable to stomach mpex [17:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 36 @ 0.00468254 = 0.1686 BTC [+] [18:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 378 @ 0.00473719 = 1.7907 BTC [+] [18:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 86 @ 0.00474063 = 0.4077 BTC [+] [18:00]
thestringpuller like EskimoBob [18:02]
thestringpuller lol [18:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 949 @ 0.00470184 = 4.462 BTC [-] [18:07]
topace EskimoBob: you're more than welcome to use havelock investments :p [18:08]
jurov topace, don't dare to ask any fees, then :) [18:11]
topace we dont [18:11]
topace for s.dice passthru its just a % of the dividends (5%) [18:12]
topace but no deposit/withdraw fees, no trade fees, no setup fees [18:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00064886 = 3.0496 BTC [-] [18:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00474063 = 9.4813 BTC [+] [18:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5849 @ 0.00065196 = 3.8133 BTC [+] [18:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4401 @ 0.00065419 = 2.8791 BTC [+] [18:26]
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gigavps gypsy bazaar [18:30]
gigavps never heard mpex called that before [18:30]
gigavps EskimoBob you are quite creative [18:30]
Diablo-D3 I like that phrase [18:31]
Diablo-D3 I agree with EskimoBob though [18:31]
Korbman Ha, indeed..gave me some interesting visuals [18:31]
Diablo-D3 mpex has two worthwhile stocks, mpex being one of them [18:31]
gigavps i love that EskimoBob follows up "sucking up as hard as you can" with a smiley face [18:32]
gigavps gives me warm fuzzies to know that EskimoBob's creativeness is not reserved just for the gigamining thread [18:33]
kakobrekla love is in the air. [18:33]
jurov they aren't gypsies, you missed in class when mircea explained teh pic [18:34]
kakobrekla :DD [18:34]
gigavps lol [18:35]
gigavps you can call if you like [18:35]
jurov iirc, they were smuggling his luggage from or to guatemala [18:36]
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thestringpuller EskimoBob: is a hater [18:38]
mircea_popescu jurov im sorry but mpex doesn't process withdrawals [18:39]
mircea_popescu deposits only. [18:39]
kakobrekla :D [18:39]
gigavps EskimoBob what do you mean "handle the forums" [18:39]
jurov oh, no more withdrawals? [18:40]
jurov EskimoBob - you see what happens when you complain about withdrawal fee. [18:40]
mircea_popescu who's da gypsy ? [18:40]
jurov they'll get discontinued [18:40]
gigavps well, if i was only selling bull shit, i'm sure it would be a lot harder [18:41]
gigavps but there isn't much to telling the truth [18:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 167 @ 0.00474063 = 0.7917 BTC [+] [18:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00474806 = 4.7481 BTC [+] [18:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00475272 = 4.7527 BTC [+] [18:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 833 @ 0.00475481 = 3.9608 BTC [+] [18:43]
gigavps Teramining contract is already created [18:43]
mircea_popescu jurov it was from chiapas to peten [18:43]
mircea_popescu (mexico to guatemala) [18:43]
gigavps ready to go [18:43]
Diablo-D3 speaking of legal, I wish we had a bitlawyer [18:43]
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Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: its not complicated or expensive in the US [18:44]
Diablo-D3 although it depends which state you're incorporating in [18:44]
gigavps yes, a contract [18:45]
Korbman establishing a legal entity in the States isn't hard at all [18:45]
Korbman that's what I did [18:45]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: yes/no [18:45]
Diablo-D3 I think we had this discussion before [18:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00472926 = 9.2221 BTC [-] [18:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2475 @ 0.00475481 = 11.7682 BTC [+] [18:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 11400 @ 0.00475485 = 54.2053 BTC [+] [18:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00477418 = 12.1742 BTC [+] [18:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0047797 = 238.985 BTC [+] [18:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00478065 = 11.9516 BTC [+] [18:48]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: it depends on the state [18:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 77075 @ 0.00478699 = 368.9573 BTC [+] [18:48]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: like, some states do not require the state to have a list of all investors, or even the company to have to make it public on request [18:48]
Diablo-D3 I think its nevada that has that, but I could be wrong [18:48]
Diablo-D3 Ukto: talk to nanotube to get your shit on assbot [18:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.00472926 = 0.856 BTC [-] [18:49]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: it can be in some cases, yes [18:49]
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Korbman contracts are important though [18:52]
Korbman still is...that's called a verbal contract [18:52]
Diablo-D3 yes, but verbal contracts are hard to enforce [18:53]
Korbman unless you have a witness haha, but yeah for the most part they're a pain [18:54]
Diablo-D3 well yes [18:54]
Diablo-D3 if he was truly a gentleman [18:54]
Diablo-D3 this wouldnt be a problem [18:54]
Korbman indeed [18:54]
Diablo-D3 yup [18:54]
Diablo-D3 there are very very very very few people I trust [18:54]
Diablo-D3 and the very few I trust usually end up stabbing me in the back anyhow [18:54]
Diablo-D3 so yes, the days of gentlemen are over. [18:55]
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kakobrekla O_o [18:56]
Korbman Ha, seems that way sometimes [18:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00468872 = 23.4436 BTC [-] [19:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00468872 = 16.8794 BTC [-] [19:02]
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thestringpuller EskimoBob: ICBIT was told how to set up assbot ticker but it never went anywhere [19:11]
thestringpuller don't blame assbot :P [19:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2415 @ 0.00472477 = 11.4103 BTC [+] [19:12]
thestringpuller Soon S.DICE will be prie for shorting [19:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5580 @ 0.00478699 = 26.7114 BTC [+] [19:13]
Dr-X mh [19:14]
Dr-X no profits this month so far [19:15]
jcpham impatient much [19:15]
thestringpuller someone who wants to get exit the position and take his profits elsewhere will sell soon [19:15]
thestringpuller and we'll see a wall of sells [19:16]
thestringpuller but in small lucky bursts [19:16]
thestringpuller you have to keep yo eye out [19:16]
Dr-X the ipo was for 0.0037? [19:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00478699 = 13.4036 BTC [+] [19:16]
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topace wow we're up to that 125k ask wlal [19:17]
topace wall [19:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17502 @ 0.00064886 = 11.3563 BTC [-] [19:17]
JWU_42 really [19:17]
jcpham no volume [19:18]
jcpham just a wall [19:18]
JWU_42 125k ? [19:18]
thestringpuller no like a wall of text [19:20]
thestringpuller cause it happens so fast [19:20]
thestringpuller but no not a ot of volume [19:20]
thestringpuller like under 25 btc at first [19:20]
thestringpuller small fish exiting [19:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00478108 = 6.9326 BTC [-] [19:20]
jcpham http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5026802 [19:21]
thestringpuller I didn't know there were free ACH services.. [19:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1670 @ 0.00478698 = 7.9943 BTC [+] [19:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 530 @ 0.00478699 = 2.5371 BTC [+] [19:22]
thestringpuller oh it's not free lame [19:22]
thestringpuller jcpham: what is this nonsense [19:23]
jcpham i'm not sure [19:25]
jcpham but bank acount details in curl commands must be legit [19:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1385 @ 0.00478107 = 6.6218 BTC [-] [19:26]
thestringpuller what do you expect from ycombinator [19:27]
Diablo-D3 are you on drugs thestringpuller? [19:28]
Diablo-D3 y combinator is a startup incubator [19:28]
Diablo-D3 hn has nothing to do with it [19:28]
mircea_popescu Dr-X 32/34/37 [19:30]
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thestringpuller Are you on drugs Diablo-D3 ? "At Balanced Payments YC W2011" [19:31]
thestringpuller The poster was in YC [19:31]
mircea_popescu wasn't 2011 like 2 years ago ? [19:32]
thestringpuller ...like airbnb [19:32]
Diablo-D3 you're implying I clicked the link [19:32]
Diablo-D3 the jokes on you [19:32]
thestringpuller What joke... [19:32]
thestringpuller https://balancedpayments.com [19:33]
thestringpuller that's the joke :P [19:33]
Diablo-D3 I still dont get why you're bringing YC up here [19:34]
Diablo-D3 they were in the YC before the previous one [19:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5709 @ 0.00065419 = 3.7348 BTC [+] [19:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 691 @ 0.00065576 = 0.4531 BTC [+] [19:35]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [19:36]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00469748 / 0.0047888 (397246 shares, 1,866.06 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00337775 / 0.0048 (13703504 shares, 46,287.08 BTC) [19:36]
mircea_popescu heh [19:36]
jcpham HN is has funny things [19:36]
jcpham *has [19:36]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller if you're looking at the net cashflow indicator for mpex it's unlikely a sellout is in the works [19:36]
jcpham relative: http://www.tit4bit.com/ [19:37]
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mircea_popescu Beginner's Bondage Fantasy [19:38]
mircea_popescu With four wrist and ankle restraints attached to nylon straps, this set is sure to produce a happy ending. [19:38]
mircea_popescu fuckwits. [19:38]
mircea_popescu no synthetics in bondage omfg. [19:38]
jcpham haha [19:38]
Korbman lol [19:41]
mircea_popescu "but mp, nylon is so much cheaper" [19:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.00478107 = 20.0805 BTC [-] [19:43]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu, the expert in bondage, has spoken [19:44]
mircea_popescu i prolly did tie more women up than teh average internet dood slept with [19:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 440 @ 0.00478698 = 2.1063 BTC [+] [19:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 11219 @ 0.00478699 = 53.7052 BTC [+] [19:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3621 @ 0.00478699 = 17.3337 BTC [+] [19:58]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [20:03]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00436997 / 0.00471658 / 0.0047888 (387085 shares, 1,825.72 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00337974 / 0.0048 (13712984 shares, 46,346.45 BTC) [20:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00478699 = 14.361 BTC [+] [20:06]
jcpham http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1 [20:09]
jcpham i love reading about tide detergent theft [20:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3737 @ 0.00478699 = 17.889 BTC [+] [20:09]
mircea_popescu "the voice dictation program on my ipad hears bitbet, writes "big butt"" [20:10]
mircea_popescu tru story. [20:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 580 @ 0.00478699 = 2.7765 BTC [+] [20:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00478699 = 6.2231 BTC [+] [20:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064921 = 6.4921 BTC [-] [20:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00478107 = 8.845 BTC [-] [20:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00478699 = 18.1906 BTC [+] [20:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2285 @ 0.00478107 = 10.9247 BTC [-] [20:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00469696 = 3.7576 BTC [-] [20:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 794 @ 0.00469615 = 3.7287 BTC [-] [20:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3650 @ 0.00478699 = 17.4725 BTC [+] [20:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1275 @ 0.00478699 = 6.1034 BTC [+] [20:49]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [20:50]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.81370, Best ask: 13.84499, Bid-ask spread: 0.03129, Last trade: 13.80998, 24 hour volume: 46657.68368336, 24 hour low: 13.45315, 24 hour high: 13.84500, 24 hour vwap: 13.66023 [20:50]
smickles rally time, eh? [20:50]
mircea_popescu seems that way [20:50]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [20:51]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 37 seconds ago: rally time, eh? [20:51]
smickles heh, thestringpuller look 5 lines up [20:51]
smickles or 4, depending on how you count it [20:52]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [21:08]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.81371, Best ask: 13.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02629, Last trade: 13.81371, 24 hour volume: 46883.13203225, 24 hour low: 13.46000, 24 hour high: 13.85000, 24 hour vwap: 13.66531 [21:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064939 = 10.3902 BTC [+] [21:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6559 @ 0.00064886 = 4.2559 BTC [-] [21:10]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [21:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.82370, Best ask: 13.84899, Bid-ask spread: 0.02529, Last trade: 13.82370, 24 hour volume: 46826.34867111, 24 hour low: 13.46000, 24 hour high: 13.87000, 24 hour vwap: 13.66692 [21:19]
Bugpowder 6 month high about to go down (13.88) [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7043 @ 0.00064467 = 4.5404 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1224 @ 0.00469615 = 5.7481 BTC [-] [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 469 @ 0.00478699 = 2.2451 BTC [+] [21:31]
jurov Bugpowder, or not. it's not so dramatic rise [21:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 990 @ 0.00478699 = 4.7391 BTC [+] [21:31]
jurov cay anyone make sense of burnside's intentions? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.240;topicseen [21:36]
jurov like, he's looking to gradually sell btct.. to whom? the community? [21:36]
Bugpowder John McAfee [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4050 @ 0.00478699 = 19.3873 BTC [+] [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00064237 = 8.5114 BTC [-] [21:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3902 @ 0.00469616 = 18.3244 BTC [-] [21:46]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.5417181 = 541.7181 BTC [+] [21:53]
topace kakobrekla: you there? check pm [21:53]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62300558 = 623.0056 BTC [+] [21:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2108 @ 0.00478699 = 10.091 BTC [+] [21:55]
mircea_popescu jurov seems just "mpex rehash, except we can't call it that." [21:56]
mircea_popescu duh Bugpowder you been scaring away options ppls [21:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00478699 = 3.5902 BTC [+] [21:57]
Bugpowder me? [21:57]
Bugpowder I've been trying to buy and sell them [21:57]
Bugpowder need some variance [21:58]
mircea_popescu ppl covering puts [21:58]
Bugpowder 13.87998 [21:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62177589 = 621.7759 BTC [-] [22:03]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.54057549 = 540.5755 BTC [-] [22:03]
Bugpowder heh [22:04]
Bugpowder MOAR [22:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00064237 = 4.4966 BTC [-] [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.0006365 = 9.102 BTC [-] [22:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62173733 = 621.7373 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.54053461 = 540.5346 BTC [-] [22:17]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135366.0 [22:18]
mircea_popescu kind of interesting [22:18]
dub isn't BTCGOLD that asset name squatter guy? [22:20]
dub from glbse [22:20]
mircea_popescu may be [22:20]
mircea_popescu New peer-to-peer lending on Bitfinex << pigeons! [22:20]
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mircea_popescu the bitcoinica v-2.0 is back with moar jam! [22:21]
dub what does the CTG in BCB's tagline mean? [22:22]
mircea_popescu bASIC will not ship until mid to end of March [22:22]
mircea_popescu ouch [22:22]
mircea_popescu so basically cablepair is out of the game. [22:22]
topace yea [22:24]
topace glad i only have a few orders with them [22:24]
dub tbh https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41592.0;topicseen [22:26]
dub this is obviously not a german [22:26]
mircea_popescu so basically, bfl is in inaba mode, basic is wiped, asicminer claims to have chips [22:27]
mircea_popescu end of the asic race ? [22:27]
dub that is straight chinglish [22:27]
mircea_popescu dub tbh i also though the guy is azn [22:27]
mircea_popescu when i first saw him, 6 mo ago or w/e [22:27]
dub also wah happen to kluge's scammer tag [22:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.0006365 = 0.6683 BTC [-] [22:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00063645 = 8.5921 BTC [-] [22:29]
jurov so, looks like bitmit is closing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41592.msg1441934#msg1441934 [22:29]
Anduck so uhhh [22:30]
Anduck whats the roblum with asicminer [22:30]
Anduck ? [22:30]
jurov worst possible way of announcing it [22:30]
Anduck do they have some kind of delay incomin? [22:30]
mircea_popescu Anduck not afaik. they however have a different model, whereby they don't deliver items [22:30]
mircea_popescu so they can claim w/e they want for longer. [22:30]
mircea_popescu dub i have no idea. [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3949 @ 0.00478699 = 18.9038 BTC [+] [22:31]
Anduck mircea_popescu: but they need to start mining!! [22:32]
mircea_popescu not really. [22:36]
Namworld I haven't seen Goat in forever. [22:37]
mircea_popescu he's dissapeared. [22:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 546 @ 0.00478699 = 2.6137 BTC [+] [22:40]
Namworld Are you implying anything? [22:40]
dub link? [22:41]
Bugpowder its dumb [22:42]
Bugpowder just an irc troll [22:42]
kakobrekla lets see if this works. [22:43]
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kakobrekla nope. [22:44]
dub failure [22:44]
kakobrekla aha. [22:44]
dub EskimoBob: substanciate that comment or entrench your reputation as a moron [22:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [22:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [22:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [22:46]
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Bugpowder whoa! [22:46]
kakobrekla ok we got it we got it. jeez. [22:46]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [22:47]
kakobrekla topace go for it. [22:47]
Anduck why isnt it S.DICE..... [22:48]
kakobrekla talk to topace. [22:49]
kakobrekla :p [22:49]
topace woohoo [22:49]
topace thanks kakobrekla [22:49]
kakobrekla welcome [22:49]
mircea_popescu Namworld im not implying anything. he just dissapeared [22:50]
mircea_popescu o hey! well done havelock [22:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [22:51]
mircea_popescu topace http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpsics-in-detail/ [22:51]
topace that was the test one, lets see if a "live" one works [22:51]
topace excellent [22:51]
mircea_popescu so who'd have thunk it, havelock beat everyone to it. Ukto you see that ? [22:51]
topace hehe [22:51]
topace that took all of, umm... 7 minutes to implement [22:51]
mircea_popescu i know lol [22:52]
Bugpowder It's so alive in here now [22:52]
Bugpowder feels like the good ole days [22:52]
Bugpowder of 3 months ago [22:52]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134733.msg1442258#msg1442258 [22:52]
mircea_popescu lol that should stir the pot a little [22:52]
Bugpowder err 4 months ago [22:52]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder you were here 4 months ago ?! [22:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10500 @ 0.00478699 = 50.2634 BTC [+] [22:53]
topace kakobrekla: can you add the "= x BTC" calculation to the havelock one? same as for MPEX? or do you need me to post that through? [22:54]
topace (just for consistency) [22:54]
kakobrekla topace it will happen automagically if amount is > 1 [22:54]
topace ah [22:54]
topace :) [22:54]
kakobrekla also the [+] and [-] will start to work [22:54]
kakobrekla once the bot gets the data [22:55]
kakobrekla historical [22:55]
topace awesome [22:55]
Bugpowder yah, around Sept 1st [22:55]
Bugpowder topace, 1 @ 0.49 = 0.49 [22:55]
Bugpowder :) [22:55]
dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.msg1429822#msg1429822 can't tell if retarded [22:56]
mircea_popescu wait. you can't tell if someone on btctalk is retarded, that's what you're saying to me ? [22:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4098 @ 0.00478699 = 19.6171 BTC [+] [22:57]
mircea_popescu !ticker KCIM [22:59]
assbot Invalid ticker. [22:59]
kakobrekla not yet implemented [22:59]
kakobrekla i think topace will expand the api first [22:59]
mircea_popescu aite. what's kcim anyway ? [22:59]
topace https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=KCIM [23:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00478699 = 7.1805 BTC [+] [23:02]
mircea_popescu can i short it ? [23:04]
Bugpowder AA beats [23:06]
Bugpowder gonna be a good earnings season [23:06]
mircea_popescu topace do you lend shares ? [23:08]
topace not at the moment [23:09]
topace i honestly dont fully undertsand the financials behind shorting, options, etc. [23:09]
mircea_popescu how come contract says 10k float says 833 ? [23:10]
topace ipo units arent in float until they are sold [23:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 863 @ 0.00477086 = 4.1173 BTC [-] [23:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 337 @ 0.00470028 = 1.584 BTC [-] [23:12]
mircea_popescu so basically this is a sort of bond. [23:12]
mircea_popescu Units of the fund ARE convertible to shares on MPEX at 1 unit = 100 shares PUSHED to your MPEX account for a fixed fee of 10 BTC per transfer (fee subject to change). Contact us by email to initiate a transfer. [23:12]
mircea_popescu lolz. so basically, the only way it makes sense to get a push is if you own more shares on havelock than it'd make sense to own. [23:13]
topace indeed [23:13]
topace if someone builds up slowly a lot on havelock and realizes they dont want to pay us the 5% of their dividend anymore, they can get us to move the shares to mpex [23:13]
mircea_popescu or in case of some emergency [23:13]
topace if they're paying 30BTC to open a mpex account, they can pay 10btc for us to move their shares over [23:13]
topace obviously, its to discourage people from constantly moving shares, as that would be annoying as hell :) [23:14]
topace but its there as an option [23:14]
mircea_popescu yeah. [23:14]
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topace now to figure out why my ticker api is giving me nulls [23:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15856 @ 0.00064374 = 10.2071 BTC [+] [23:16]
Namworld Ok, imagine this: ASIC do ship [23:16]
Namworld What then? [23:17]
Anduck gpu's will drop out of network [23:17]
Anduck (the ones who pay for electricity) [23:17]
Namworld Hmm. Cheap year for the used GPUs market. [23:17]
mircea_popescu if asics do ship im buying a 2014 calendar [23:18]
mircea_popescu cause obviously my 2013 one is out of date. [23:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00470028 = 5.6403 BTC [-] [23:18]
Namworld Eheh, fun [23:18]
topace i wonder if the mvoe away from gpu's will hurt AMD/ATI's bottom line :p [23:19]
mircea_popescu doubt it [23:19]
mircea_popescu we mostly use discontinued models neh ? [23:19]
Namworld Well I think the chips were long sold when miners bought the cards from cards makers. [23:21]
Namworld and bought them because they were cheap. [23:22]
Anduck 5830's or 5850's were the best [23:22]
Anduck i think it was 5850 [23:22]
Namworld Might still have made more people buy the AMD/ATI newest card because of scarcity of older cards. [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20994 @ 0.00064374 = 13.5147 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9198 @ 0.00064467 = 5.9297 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18254 @ 0.00065576 = 11.9702 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15117 @ 0.00065613 = 9.9187 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3762 @ 0.00065643 = 2.4695 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.0006569 = 15.3058 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00065738 = 18.2094 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00065987 = 13.2634 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00065998 = 2.6399 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00065999 = 7.2599 BTC [+] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3846575 @ 0.00066 = 2538.7395 BTC [+] [23:22]
Anduck lol [23:22]
Anduck LOL WOT [23:23]
kakobrekla fuckin dog. [23:23]
Anduck over 2500+ btc on S.MPOE [23:23]
mircea_popescu you act like that's news lol [23:24]
Namworld Well such large trades have happened for S.DICE/S.MPOE before. [23:24]
Namworld I think that was one of your blocks mircea? [23:24]
Namworld Well congrats. [23:24]
Bugpowder not bad [23:25]
mircea_popescu yeah like the 2nd [23:25]
mircea_popescu actually 3rd [23:25]
Namworld Not bad? Still more than I make in a year. [23:25]
Bugpowder 2.4 down [23:25]
Bugpowder 2.6 to go [23:25]
Anduck mircea_popescu: isn't it, then? [23:25]
Namworld Although mircea is not alone on MPEx. [23:25]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.mpoe [23:25]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063085 / 0.00065692 / 0.00066 (4741455 shares, 3,114.78 BTC), 30day: 0.0005119 / 0.00061439 / 0.00066 (56821188 shares, 34,910.39 BTC) [23:25]
mircea_popescu but no, s.dice has the record, i think it had 13k in one day or something like that [23:25]
dub more than you make in a year? [23:26]
Bugpowder 4 million shares [23:26]
Anduck wut [23:26]
mircea_popescu then again the options often do 5-10k too [23:26]
dub thats like minimum wage [23:26]
mircea_popescu i think he lives in europe [23:26]
mircea_popescu no wait, canadian [23:26]
Bugpowder ;;calc 4100000 * .0037 [23:26]
gribble 15170 [23:26]
topace on the ticker, whast the middle number? the average? day: 0.00063085 / 0.00065692 / 0.00066 [23:28]
mircea_popescu vwap yea [23:28]
topace (trying to make my havelock ticker api provide the same stats) [23:29]
mircea_popescu topace isn't fascinating what stuff was going on in the folds of the interwebs. [23:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00478699 = 14.8397 BTC [+] [23:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1763 @ 0.00470028 = 8.2866 BTC [-] [23:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 306 @ 0.00469615 = 1.437 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00468918 = 11.4885 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.0046843 = 6.0896 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1269 @ 0.00467785 = 5.9362 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00467139 = 8.8756 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5556 @ 0.00466476 = 25.9174 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.00465281 = 15.3543 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00465075 = 8.3714 BTC [-] [23:32]
Bugpowder shit [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5100 @ 0.00462952 = 23.6106 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0045941 = 1.3782 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3089 @ 0.00458277 = 14.1562 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1876 @ 0.00453281 = 8.5036 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3127 @ 0.00453272 = 14.1738 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00452446 = 11.5374 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00451308 = 2.2565 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1162 @ 0.0045121 = 5.2431 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00450869 = 4.5087 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00450124 = 15.9794 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 33102 @ 0.00449 = 148.628 BTC [-] [23:32]
Bugpowder sweet. My bid got hit [23:33]
Bugpowder LOVE when your bid is the last bid hit in a dump [23:33]
mircea_popescu lol [23:33]
mircea_popescu showstopper. [23:33]
Namworld dub, 2538.7395 BTC is more than I make in a year. [23:33]
Bugpowder glad I moved it down from 469 [23:33]
dub Namworld: Sorry man [23:33]
Bugpowder How old? [23:33]
Bugpowder Nam? [23:34]
Namworld 22 [23:34]
Bugpowder yah [23:34]
Bugpowder well [23:34]
Bugpowder that will change [23:34]
kakobrekla yes, everyone gets older. [23:34]
mircea_popescu lol [23:34]
Bugpowder although coins will probably go up faster [23:34]
Namworld xD [23:34]
mircea_popescu 40k or so isn't the worst at 22. [23:34]
Bugpowder its not bad at all [23:34]
Namworld I said I make less than that. [23:34]
Bugpowder heh [23:34]
Namworld Which is 35k [23:35]
Namworld How much I won't disclose. =P [23:35]
Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [23:35]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.00470376 / 0.0047888 (516619 shares, 2,430.06 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00339243 / 0.0048 (13849441 shares, 46,983.26 BTC) [23:35]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.00470376 / 0.00339243 [23:37]
gribble 1.38654592726 [23:37]
mircea_popescu frightening [23:37]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.07 ** 4.2 [23:38]
gribble 1.32865389886 [23:38]
mircea_popescu MOAR. it is moar. [23:38]
Bugpowder hah [23:39]
mircea_popescu Wow, I just placed an order on bitmit last night and I now have "no permission" to view the order, after paying. Were my funds taken by the new owner or something? [23:41]
mircea_popescu can't tell if troll or... [23:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00449 = 11.8985 BTC [-] [23:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [-] [23:43]
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mod6 !ticker S.MPOE [23:45]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063085 / 0.00065692 / 0.00066 (4741455 shares, 3,114.78 BTC), 30day: 0.0005119 / 0.00061448 / 0.00066 (56765738 shares, 34,881.43 BTC) [23:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00466507 = 6.7644 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 360 @ 0.00467005 = 1.6812 BTC [+] [23:49]
* Lanfast_Bozzo (~Lanfast_B@189-73-146-188.nhoce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00478699 = 8.6166 BTC [+] [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 336 @ 0.0047582 = 1.5988 BTC [-] [23:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-] [23:59]
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