Forum logs for 06 Sep 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu http://postimg.org/image/cwhj88wp3/ [00:01]
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mircea_popescu opportunities, they exist. [00:01]
BingoBoingo !b 13 [00:03]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [00:19]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 482.54, Best ask: 483.87, Bid-ask spread: 1.33000, Last trade: 483.64, 24 hour volume: 6573.80795705, 24 hour low: 481.02, 24 hour high: 492.99, 24 hour vwap: 484.861890152 [00:19]
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BingoBoingo %d [00:22]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 275840.58 in 1418 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -85.31 [00:22]
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mircea_popescu http://www.indecente.ro/fantezii/fetish-super-corset.jpg << i finally found some decent she-warrior armor [00:31]
chetty dun think I wanna fight in that, lacks a little protection [00:35]
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mircea_popescu welll... videogame fightin'. [00:35]
chetty prolly better off fighten naked [00:36]
kakobrekla Armor: +0.0001 [00:37]
chetty well maybe a little more as a distraction [00:38]
mircea_popescu where's that poster thing [00:39]
mircea_popescu http://x1.fjcdn.com/comments/This+is+Terra+no+mods+needed+_cb6153ad9a0a894885121312fb4f6689.jpg [00:41]
mircea_popescu http://x4.fjcdn.com/pictures/3f/82/3f827c_4771291.jpg [00:41]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.17 = 1.36 BTC [+] [00:54]
BingoBoingo Look what Uber sponsored: https://www.urbanshield.org/index.php/contacts/urban-shield-vendor-directory?sid=57&site=10 [00:55]
BingoBoingo http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/03/us/philadelphia-drug-bust-house-seizure/index.html [00:56]
assbot Parents' house seized after son's drug bust - CNN.com [00:56]
cazalla mircea_popescu: give rakim a good job, i'll even return the nuke subs. <<< rakim is in jail http://i.imgur.com/jotYmaJ.png [00:58]
TheNewDeal what did uber sponsor? couldnt see from the link [00:59]
BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Some sort of police cosplay conference or something... [01:00]
TheNewDeal ahhh [01:00]
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asciilifeform http://www.urbanshield.org/index.php/contacts/urban-shield-vendor-directory?pid=57&sid=220:XHAUSTR-Industries [01:15]
assbot XHAUSTR Industries [01:15]
asciilifeform ^ lol! potato in tailpipe !? [01:15]
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* asciilifeform did not know that humble potato had a part to play in policework. [01:15]
asciilifeform https://www.freelancer.com/contest/Design-a-Logo-for-a-Police-Product-67956.html << and apparently he 'crowdsourced' the company logo... [01:16]
assbot Design a Logo for a Police Product | Freelancer.com [01:16]
asciilifeform http://www.workingbase.com/project/Design-and-Build-a-Website-for-a-Law-Enforcement-Product.3052162.html << and the company site... [01:16]
assbot Design and Build a Website for a Law Enforcement Product (PHP, Website Design, Graphic Design, HTML) - Project ID: 3052162 - WorkingBase.com [01:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063742 = 6.3742 BTC [+] {2} [01:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063792 = 6.3792 BTC [+] [01:21]
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BingoBoingo http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/09/04/us-usa-crime-bitcoin-idUKKBN0GZ2OG20140904 << Plea guilty, pay a million dollars, and still potentially face 5 years in prison [01:38]
assbot Bitcoin promoter pleads guilty to unlicensed use of currency| Reuters [01:38]
BingoBoingo Potential for 5 years in prison per http://online.wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-promoter-charles-shrem-pleads-guilty-1409870506 [01:39]
assbot Bitcoin Promoter Charles Shrem Pleads Guilty - WSJ [01:39]
danielpbarron is this over the feedzebirds thing? [01:42]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: That was Erik, this is Charlie. This is the Bitinstant thing. [01:44]
danielpbarron oh, the guy who bought some pot brownies over the internet? [01:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.01039979 = 0.7072 BTC [+] {2} [01:46]
BingoBoingo Haven't heard that one. [01:47]
danielpbarron After reading through the entire criminal complaint against Charlie Shrem, it seems that he is guilty of nothing more than ordering some pot brownies off the Internet. http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/charlie-shrem-did-nothing-wrong/ [01:48]
assbot The Complete Breakdown of How Charlie Shrem Did Nothing Wrong [01:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 60 @ 0.01042405 = 0.6254 BTC [+] {3} [01:48]
danielpbarron is it legal to sell someone world of warcraft gold if you know they will use it to buy drugs? [01:48]
danielpbarron do I need KYC for shops I build in minecraft? [01:49]
mircea_popescu http://www.indecente.ro/fantezii/feterele.jpg [02:02]
mircea_popescu ^ lol! potato in tailpipe !? << kinda old, this. [02:02]
mircea_popescu "His lawyer, Marc Agnifilo, said that what Shrem did was an aberration and that Shrem plans to continue working in the bitcoin world if possible." << ahahah sure, sure. [02:05]
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mircea_popescu !up BananaLotus [02:13]
-assbot- You voiced BananaLotus for 30 minutes. [02:13]
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BananaLotus thank you mircea_popescu :) [02:13]
mircea_popescu sure. [02:17]
BananaLotus guruvan is helping me setup a WoT account :) [02:18]
kakobrekla which part 'sure sure' [02:20]
kakobrekla if the 'cont. working' ... people with larger wounds operate . [02:20]
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kakobrekla infinite hitpoints. [02:21]
kakobrekla punkman did you follow up 'all on no' on bb then? [02:34]
mircea_popescu o hey, how goes guruvan ? [02:37]
mircea_popescu ok, 7 reports published, am i done ? [02:38]
mircea_popescu hallelujah. [02:38]
guruvan very good thx. Took a bit more than a week to get back online, but made it :) been a long hard summer. how're you? [02:38]
mircea_popescu never felt better. [02:39]
guruvan nice. this place looks much improved. [02:40]
mircea_popescu actually, yes. [02:40]
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mircea_popescu ;;seen rithm [02:50]
gribble rithm was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGILISYllug [02:50]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell rithm what's this loan business ? [02:50]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:50]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-july-august-2014-combined-statement/ [02:57]
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Apocalyptic !up BananaLotus [03:12]
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Apocalyptic mircea, I enjoyed the last MPIF statement [03:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00063792 = 18.6273 BTC [+] [03:28]
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punkman kakobrekla: notrly [03:30]
punkman not eager to gamble all my btc away just yet [03:31]
kakobrekla seems to be bloody again. [03:32]
kakobrekla er, blody. [03:32]
punkman ;;ud blody [03:33]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blody%20mary | ... blödmann · blodne · Blodomy · Blodrunk · blodsoe · Blodwen Buildings · blody mary · Bloebler · Bloedel · bloe job · bloem · Bloemer ... blody mary isn't defined. [03:33]
punkman after a bit of spelunking this week, I can finally say "I'VE SEEN ALL THE COINS" [03:34]
punkman physical coins that is [03:35]
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TheNewDeal oooh blody mary [04:28]
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decimation re: plane from Wisconsin that ended up in the Atlantic: http://mdcoastdispatch.com/2014/09/04/woc-based-boat-witnessed-weekend-plane-crash-fishermen-watched-as-f-16-jets-shadowed-aircraft-until-it-crashed/ << lol [04:30]
assbot WOC-Based Boat Witnessed Weekend Plane Crash; Fishermen Watched As F-16 Jets Shadowed Aircraft Until It Crashed [04:30]
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decimation Bob Builder (lol!) is a ... fisherman? [04:31]
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decimation The most amusing thing about this story is the simple faith that Bob Builder expresses in USG: “You could tell the jets were extremely well-equipped and in control of the situation,” he said. “We obviously paid close attention, but at no time did we think we were in danger. I think the jets could have controlled where and when it went down." [04:31]
decimation how would they control the plane? with tractor beams? [04:32]
TheNewDeal decimation those Cirrus planes fly like rocks. Wouldn't be caught dead in one. [04:32]
decimation my understanding is that they have a high cruise speed [04:32]
asciilifeform decimation: how would they control the plane << this was a slip-up and meant literally. controlled how? with the mandatory remote-steering box. [04:32]
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asciilifeform (mandatory only on passenger liners, afaik, but who knows - possibly some of the newer single-seaters have it as well.) [04:33]
TheNewDeal http://www.m0a.com/cirrus-law-suit/ [04:33]
assbot Cirrus Ordered to Pay 16.4 Million after Fatal Crash [04:33]
TheNewDeal 2003 SR22 [04:33]
decimation TheNewDeal: what aerodynamic defect does it have? [04:34]
TheNewDeal I can't specify a defect. Perhaps poor craftsmanship [04:35]
TheNewDeal Have you ever heard of a plane with a parachute? [04:35]
decimation asciilifeform: the Cirrus has a parachute [04:35]
TheNewDeal >< [04:35]
decimation yes, they are standard on the cirrus to my knowledge [04:35]
TheNewDeal Most of the planes I have flown on, had no parachute [04:36]
kakobrekla a parachute < o shit, if only it would have an ejection seat [04:36]
TheNewDeal The plane is probably worth more than the people it drives, generally undesirables [04:37]
decimation apparently there was another 'lost plane' today too: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-f15-jets-escorting-plane-20140905-story.html [04:37]
assbot Search underway to locate wreckage of unresponsive plane that crashed - LA Times [04:37]
decimation TheNewDeal: I would like a parachute on a small plane, there are situations where it would save your life [04:38]
artifexd punkman: Find any interesting physical coins or are Casascius coins still as good as it gets? [04:40]
decimation asciilifeform: one wonders if that's an example of poor journalism or even worse propaganda [04:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00063792 = 2.7112 BTC [+] [04:46]
decimation re: zelda << "Some coworkers and I have been exchanging messages that we, up until recently, believed to be private. In these messages, we said some embarrassing things about mutual acquaintances, including comparing one female coworker of ours to Teflon and another pair of upper-level managers as "Batman and Robin". Unfortunately, these messages weren't private after all; someone posted them onto NSANet! :( Now everyone hates me [04:48]
decimation and my coworkers. What can we do to make people like us again?" [04:48]
TheNewDeal I'm saying if I had a million dollars, I would be staying far away from a Cirrus jet [04:52]
decimation TheNewDeal: the Cirrus planes in question were prop driven if I'm not mistaken [04:53]
decimation re: Cirrus http://airfactsjournal.com/2012/05/dicks-blog-whats-wrong-with-cirrus-pilots/ I think the more likely case is that the relatively new and shiny Cirrus planes attract inexperienced pilots with a sense of immortality [04:55]
assbot What's wrong with Cirrus pilots? - Air Facts Journal [04:55]
TheNewDeal regardless. Plane is probably named after a vehicle liability insurance for high risk policies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-22_(insurance) [04:56]
assbot SR-22 (insurance) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [04:56]
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decimation greenspun agrees that the sr-20 has challenging flight dynamics: http://philip.greenspun.com/flying/cirrus-sr20 " In terms of avoiding an accident, one problem with the Cirrus is its unforgiving handling compared to other basic four-seaters. For pilots accustomed to learning about an impending stall by feeling reduced airloads on the flight controls, the Cirrus provides much less stall warning. This is due to spring cartridges that [05:01]
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decimation continue to resist flight control movement even when the airplane is not moving. In other words, the flight controls feel similar whether you're flying or stalled. " [05:01]
assbot Cirrus SR20 (and a bit about the SR22) [05:01]
mircea_popescu mircea, I enjoyed the last MPIF statement << cheers [05:04]
mircea_popescu The most amusing thing about this story is the simple faith that Bob Builder expresses in USG: “You could tell the jets were extremely well-equipped << dunno if you've seen "the kite runner" ? [05:05]
mircea_popescu similarly amusing piece of agitprop. find out what child raping horrible guys teh taliban are! [05:05]
mircea_popescu the mere insertion of cp in there... the cia just can't stop sending niggers to infiltrate teh gru [05:05]
mircea_popescu Have you ever heard of a plane with a parachute? << um all of em ? [05:06]
mircea_popescu punkman: Find any interesting physical coins or are Casascius coins still as good as it gets? << you ever seen my huge copper round ? [05:07]
artifexd I have not [05:08]
mircea_popescu hm lemme see [05:09]
artifexd !s copper round [05:09]
assbot 1 results for 'copper round' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=copper+round [05:09]
mircea_popescu artifexd http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2nd-conference-6.jpg [05:10]
mircea_popescu it's only "mine" in the sense i bought one. [05:10]
artifexd Does it carry any block chain value or is it just pretty? [05:11]
mircea_popescu whoa shit, you mean a parachute FOR THE ACTUAL PLANE !? [05:12]
mircea_popescu bejesus, talk about just giving up [05:12]
mircea_popescu artifexd just pretty. also huge, like 2 inches wide. [05:12]
decimation mircea_popescu: yeah the whole plane has a parachute [05:12]
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artifexd Who produced it? [05:13]
decimation mircea_popescu: as geenspun explains, it is a legitimate safety mechanism, but it doesn't make up for the apparently "comfortable" handling [05:13]
mircea_popescu this is like a submarine with wheels. [05:13]
mircea_popescu because you just can'tg keep it in the water , and they know it [05:13]
mircea_popescu artifexd wao got them iirc. [05:13]
decimation mircea_popescu: well, the theory on that one blog is that because it has a parachute, inexperienced derps think they are invincible [05:13]
decimation so for example one guy got in one late at night in bad weather and flew it into a hill [05:14]
mircea_popescu from what i gather, it was missold. [05:14]
mircea_popescu ie, sold not as an expensive and dangerous toy, but as a commuting tool. [05:14]
mircea_popescu that, it is not. [05:14]
decimation anyone who thinks of small airplanes as a commuting tool has a date with death [05:15]
mircea_popescu "Normally a single-engine airplane has to be spun as part of the certification process. The Cirrus wasn’t. The FAA waived this requirement and accepted the airframe parachute as an alternate means of compliance. I kid you not, the spin recovery in a Cirrus is based on deploying the chute. That is the only way a pilot can recover from a spin in a Cirrus." [05:15]
mircea_popescu jerks. [05:15]
mircea_popescu legitimate my foot and who the fuck would fly that. good call TheNewDeal [05:15]
mircea_popescu an unspinable single engine is not airworthy wtf. [05:16]
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decimation it is true that if you want to fly a little airplane you are better off with a basic piper cub without fancy electronics [05:16]
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mircea_popescu forget the electronics, this isn't a question of electronics in any sense. this is a question of fucking foil in flow. [05:17]
decimation right, but the point is that the shiny electronics is what sells the plane as 'safe' [05:17]
mircea_popescu i can throw a rock off a tall building and it'll spoend some time in the air too, that doesn't make it an airplane. [05:17]
mircea_popescu you know, it occurs to me, all these small single engine planes should be only launched upside down from like 3 meters. by law. [05:18]
decimation if one really wants a reliable communting airplane, one needs to spend several million $ to buy a reasonable jet that can fly above weather [05:18]
mircea_popescu if it can't take off you just drop 3 meters and spend a month in casts for your sins [05:18]
mircea_popescu if it can take off like that you'll be ok. [05:19]
decimation like Hammurabi's code for aeronautical engineers? [05:19]
mircea_popescu yes. [05:20]
decimation The other day I witnessed a particularly skilled glider pilot perform full loops, he did 3 in a row. [05:20]
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mircea_popescu "mp's gallow" it should be called. Γ << launch from there. [05:20]
decimation The pilot who landed that jet in the hudson was a skilled glider pilot [05:20]
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decimation mircea_popescu: I don't think any plane would survive that test [05:21]
decimation if it started from a dead stop [05:21]
mircea_popescu problem solved. [05:21]
mircea_popescu that's what i do, i solve problems :D [05:21]
decimation one would need a nazi-style rocket engine [05:21]
decimation usg tried to modify a c-130 to land inside the Tehran soccer stadium to rescue the Iran hostages https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXfK4ypirI [05:23]
assbot Lockheed YMC-130 Combat Talon Operation Credible Sport JATO Accident - YouTube [05:23]
decimation It didn't work very well [05:23]
asciilifeform does anyone still fly those 'suicide' choppers that consist of a chair and motorcycle engine ? [05:25]
asciilifeform seems like an even better 'darwinator' than the amateur planes. [05:26]
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asciilifeform (which work well enough in skilled hands) [05:26]
asciilifeform 'The test bed aircraft (74-2065) was ready for its first test flight on September 18, 1980, just three weeks after the project was initiated.' <<< picture modern usg doing anything whatsoever on this schedule. [05:28]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah it seems unlikely doesn't it? [05:30]
asciilifeform spin recovery in a Cirrus is based on deploying the chute << if true, who bought this machine - and why ? [05:31]
decimation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsOO03dHXGg [05:33]
assbot Fatal Paragliding Accident Caught On Camera - YouTube [05:33]
decimation asciilifeform: apparently the guy was a retiree http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/coast-guard-ends-search-for-brookfield-pilot-missing-after-crash-b99342068z1-273395281.html [05:34]
assbot Coast Guard ends search for Brookfield pilot missing after crash [05:34]
decimation given the circumstances of the crash, I think it is likely that the cockpit pressurization system failed - or the guy had a heart attack [05:35]
asciilifeform '...served as chairman of the board of Wiscraft Inc., a nonprofit organization dedicated to helping blind people find employment in manufacturing.' [05:36]
* asciilifeform wonders which manufacturers and of what... [05:36]
asciilifeform phun phact. when i worked for u.s. army, the building cafeteria had a - blind cashier. [05:37]
asciilifeform a result of some mandatory this-or-that. [05:37]
decimation asciilifeform: I think all USG pens are made by the blind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skilcraft [05:38]
assbot Skilcraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [05:38]
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decimation apparently mandatory purchasing from the blind became mandatory under FDR! This revision of USG has grown long in the tooth. [05:42]
decimation another interesting link: http://planesandstuff.wordpress.com/2014/06/13/2-b2-or-not-2-b2/ << this guy tracks the us air force from the UK with a few radios [05:45]
assbot 2 B2 or not 2 B2 | planesandstuff [05:45]
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kakobrekla ;;tslb [07:00]
gribble Time since last block: 40 minutes and 12 seconds [07:00]
kakobrekla arent these suppose to be on a 10 min. [07:00]
kakobrekla i wanna complain to the bitcoin CEO. [07:01]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.3260912 BTC. Current weight: 52,800. [07:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063792 = 3.1896 BTC [+] [07:52]
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artifexd S.MPOE fell off a cliff again? Volatility that almost rivals BTC itself. [07:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 922 @ 0.00068615 = 0.6326 BTC [-] {11} [10:15]
[]bot Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.3260912 BTC. Current weight: 52,477. [10:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00063768 = 3.2203 BTC [-] [10:28]
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punkman artifexd, yeah there's a few nice coins. I liked the Antana concept, but they stopped making new ones. http://antanacoins.com/ [11:26]
assbot Physical bitcoin statistic coin by ANTANA [11:26]
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punkman after sleeping on it, I think I should try to make some of my own coins. Design suggestions welcome. [11:31]
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mircea_popescu ;;google 1MqDj3fUp5Zdh275oS9NBAmcjYmuKzFNHL [11:32]
gribble Bitcoin Block #319107 - Blockchain.info: ; Bitcoin Block #318781 - Blockchain.info: ; Bitcoin Block #319030 - Blockchain.info: [11:32]
punkman mircea_popescu: you ever seen my huge copper round ? << I thought you'd pull out a dick pic right there [11:32]
mircea_popescu now why did you think that. [11:33]
punkman but yeah that MJB design is everywhere. I think I might grab a couple. [11:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17681 @ 0.00063697 = 11.2623 BTC [-] {4} [11:36]
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punkman http://aeon.co/magazine/psychology/humans-are-wired-for-negativity-for-good-or-ill/ [11:39]
assbot Praise feels good, but negativity is stronger Jacob Burak Aeon [11:39]
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punkman another thing supporting the "all on No" proposition [11:41]
mircea_popescu decimation blind people being able to do something with themselves other than mope isn't such a bad thing [11:43]
mircea_popescu i wanna complain to the bitcoin CEO. <<< satoshi is dead son. [11:43]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:36]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 483.0, Best ask: 484.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 484.0, 24 hour volume: 3887.03400760, 24 hour low: 473.03, 24 hour high: 484.0, 24 hour vwap: 479.305821768 [19:36]
mircea_popescu fluffypony people be loath to paypal. [19:36]
fluffypony yeah, but risk is all on my side :) [19:36]
mircea_popescu nah, there've been cases where paying acct got locked. [19:37]
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mircea_popescu i don't mean from a "you run off with monyz" perspective, loath. i mean "paypal=assholes not keep that much there" perspective. [19:38]
punkman I've had PP limited twice when I spent a lot in one transaction [19:38]
fluffypony oh yeah see what you're saying [19:38]
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ThickAsThieves http://dpaste.com/2ZAFGC5 [19:41]
assbot dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat [19:41]
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fluffypony ThickAsThieves: lol [19:42]
mircea_popescu "We appreciate you being" did this get accepted meanwhile ? [19:42]
mircea_popescu what do they appreciate you or the being ? [19:42]
fluffypony I recently did about $35 000 through the local exchange, and all they did was email me to ask if there's anything they can do to improve their site [19:42]
ThickAsThieves i'll translate [19:42]
ThickAsThieves "we know you wont do business with us if we ask, but we'd like to try asking anyway" [19:42]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves maybe tell them that lol. [19:43]
mircea_popescu "find a business model where you don't need to ask or you don't have a business" [19:43]
ThickAsThieves i found the email outright offensive [19:43]
mircea_popescu well that means your brain's not fallen to sclerosis yet :D [19:44]
ThickAsThieves my bank never asked squat, fwiw [19:48]
[]bot Bet placed: 13.520356 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 76.00227226 BTC. Current weight: 38,548. [19:49]
mircea_popescu o.O [19:51]
mircea_popescu fluffypony decided ah what the fuck, i can't sell this btc for paypal, might as well dump it on gambling. [19:52]
fluffypony LOL [19:52]
asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/2ZAFGC5 << why use 'coinbase' again ? [19:56]
assbot dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat [19:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform to give the usg the false impression that its idiocy may work ? [19:57]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,diff [19:58]
gribble Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command. [19:58]
* asciilifeform is a believer in vonnegut's 'you are what you pretend to be, so be careful what you pretend to be' [19:58]
mod6 ;;bc,stats [19:59]
gribble Current Blocks: 319411 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 1132 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 56 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 29369109956.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.07465 [19:59]
mircea_popescu a ty mod6 [19:59]
mod6 yw [19:59]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 2.7 * (1.15)**2 [19:59]
gribble 3.57075 [19:59]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 2.7 * (1.05)**2 [20:00]
gribble 2.97675 [20:00]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 2.7 * (1.068)**2 [20:00]
* asciilifeform is more or less permanently allergic to public btc exchanges of any kind [20:00]
gribble 3.0796848 [20:00]
kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/2ZAFGC5 << why use 'coinbase' again ? << cause they got inquisitioned out of bitstamp [20:00]
assbot dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat [20:00]
mircea_popescu i have nfi why that bet is so lopsided on yes. for that matter, there could very well be a single block retarget before oct. [20:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you familiar with premedieval economy in the north of europe ? [20:02]
mircea_popescu the sounds of scania and all that [20:02]
asciilifeform only vaguely [20:02]
mircea_popescu the reason the hansa existed, as a basis for german style civilisation and the fundament of what was later dutch (and, after the blodless dutch conquest of britannia, english commercialism) [20:03]
mircea_popescu was this peculiar behaviour of fish, to congregate in this particular spot up north, to the point they got so thick you could fish with a sword. [20:03]
mircea_popescu this created a cheap source of protein as well as incentives to industrialise, because salt was needed to cure the meat so it kept. [20:04]
mircea_popescu conveniently, salt was very easy to mine, and the process to cure very simple. it never ceases to amaze anyone who seriously studies anthropology not that water is conveniently a universal solvent AND AT THE SAME TIME has a huge caloric capacity, [20:05]
mircea_popescu making it thus possible for stable solute temperatures - althrough in principle there's no absolute reasons requiring this fortuitous coincidence life requires absolutely [20:05]
mircea_popescu but that every single other step was always althrough history equaly conveniently "just as long as the baby's shins" [20:05]
asciilifeform 'anthropic principle' etc etc [20:05]
mircea_popescu quite. [20:05]
* asciilifeform pages max tegmark [20:06]
mircea_popescu moving on : as far as the at-the-time humans could tell, the fish were "a gift from god", who ordered them to surrender to human interest. [20:06]
kakobrekla great chinese usb b connector. you can rotate it 180 degrees and plugs in fine. [20:06]
mircea_popescu however, we know better right. so why did the fish regularly engage in a behaviour which the other party considered suicidal ? [20:06]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: you can make from normal one with hacksaw. [20:06]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla it's supposed to do that. [20:06]
kakobrekla too bad you cant undo it with a hacksaw. [20:06]
mircea_popescu lol [20:06]
kakobrekla trolls! [20:07]
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asciilifeform coinbase users as migratory herring. [20:09]
* asciilifeform likes. [20:09]
mircea_popescu tis what it is. [20:09]
mircea_popescu not people but things, nevertheless things have their own substance too. they exist. [20:09]
mircea_popescu and now you know more of business than virtually any business major in the continental us. [20:11]
mircea_popescu the entire fucking thing is basically cargo-cultism trying to re-enact the sounds of scania. somehow. [20:11]
mircea_popescu maybe if we put the twigs like this... [20:11]
punkman from the btc-loans-are-great dept. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289668.msg5449688#msg5449688 [20:13]
assbot Design a physical Bitcoin - (CONTEST IS CLOSED) [20:13]
asciilifeform physical Bitcoin << two-legged vacuum lamp half filled with gallium. [20:15]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/let-me-give-you-ideas/ [20:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5889 @ 0.00063886 = 3.7622 BTC [-] [20:19]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/let-me-give-you-ideas/#comment-107457 [20:19]
assbot Let me give you ideas pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:19]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c hey is the wol chainwatcher behind on blocks ? [20:22]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:22]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform aw shit nature beat me to it. [20:24]
asciilifeform careful whatchawishfor. [20:24]
mircea_popescu http://sportysnetwork.com/airfacts/wp-content/blogs.dir/13/files/2012/06/bonanza-ad.jpg << aparently aviatics in the us have a long history of this retarded pitch [20:27]
mircea_popescu "you know what'd be best for you ? if after a long harrowing day you get to worry about thge weather and take off stressed in the dark" [20:27]
mircea_popescu fucking conspiracy of gold diggers [20:27]
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BingoBoingo Fucking doing it so wrong http://www.isp.state.il.us/crimhistory/CHRIdecrypt.pdf [20:39]
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mircea_popescu punkman true story : one of the cab companies in timisoara is called "bimbo vest" [20:40]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: every usg fiefdom, large and small, has own fake pgp. [20:41]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: wait till you see what u.s. military orders are signed with (when signed!) [20:41]
mircea_popescu psp. [20:41]
BingoBoingo fkt? [20:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: bimbo vest << in usa, we have 'bimba' - they make pneumatic & hydraulic pistons. ubiquitous. [20:42]
mircea_popescu in costa rica, the wonderbread supplier is called BIMBO [20:42]
mircea_popescu http://www.grupobimbo.com/es/index.html [20:43]
assbot Inicio :: Grupo Bimbo [20:43]
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asciilifeform airplane scam << https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERCO_Ercoupe#mediaviewer/File:1946_Ercoupe_Advertisement_in_Skyways.jpg << i live near the ruins of a factory where these were once made. [20:45]
assbot ERCO Ercoupe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [20:45]
* asciilifeform is not convinced that cheap civil aviation in usa died a natural (i.e. market) death. [20:46]
kakobrekla dc polarity protection without a diode (cant afford -0.5v) and without a relay (cant afford another -70ma) anyone ? [20:47]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: LTC4412. [20:47]
kakobrekla ;;google ltc4412 [20:47]
gribble LTC4412 - Linear Technology: ; LTC4412 - Linear Technology: ; Purchase LTC4412 direct from Linear Technology: [20:47]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: or equivalent ( ask your supplier for 'ideal diode' ) [20:47]
* mircea_popescu is curious what bomb kakobrekla is making [20:48]
kakobrekla one that goes bang. [20:48]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: you can also use a plain mosfet if you know what you're doing [20:48]
kakobrekla better we assume i dont. [20:49]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: 'ideal diode' then. [20:49]
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kakobrekla might just do the trick. [20:53]
punkman mircea_popescu: idea #1, kinda: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10911242/At-last-the-clothes-store-that-lets-you-shoplift-for-a-day.html [20:54]
assbot At last, the clothes store that lets you shoplift for a day - Telegraph [20:54]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2T065Axn [20:54]
mircea_popescu shit. my ideas ;/ [20:54]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: cheapo. [20:54]
mircea_popescu punkman afaik that's how 90% of white women uder 30 shop for clothes. [20:55]
kakobrekla ty asciilifeform [20:56]
mircea_popescu i recall this particularly instructive event when derpy noob woman started her own couture brand & shop [20:56]
mircea_popescu at some financial risk. but then her worries were rest at ease when > 25% of stock sold within a week [20:56]
mircea_popescu and then she went under as 90% of that was returned within another week [20:56]
punkman that's why you sell them online, and let them pay for shipping to return [20:57]
ThickAsThieves ha! i know that girl in the stock image on punkman's link [20:57]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves what happened to her nose ? [20:57]
ThickAsThieves she's got a lot of freckles for a mixed girl [20:58]
punkman how's this for a coin inscription: ducunt volentem fata, nolentem trahunt [20:59]
ThickAsThieves pretty good [21:00]
mircea_popescu make it ducunt volentem Bitcoinae, nolentem trahunt [21:01]
ThickAsThieves ;;rated ben_vulpes [21:02]
gribble You have not yet rated user ben_vulpes [21:02]
ThickAsThieves ;;rated benkay [21:02]
gribble You have not yet rated user benkay [21:02]
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ThickAsThieves ;;rate ben_vulpes 2 Met IRL for drinks and neither of us murdered the other [21:04]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user ben_vulpes has been recorded. [21:04]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.wired.com/2014/09/for-sale-soon-the-worlds-first-google-glass-detector/ [21:07]
assbot For Sale Soon: The World’s First Google Glass Detector | Threat Level | WIRED [21:07]
mircea_popescu A young lad who climed up in a tree was stung in the balls by a bee. He then made oodles of money by oozing pure honey every time he attempted to pee. [21:08]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: as if the vendors of the hated gizmos really had to include, e.g, 'google' in the hello packet. [21:11]
mircea_popescu so basically that thing does... nothing. [21:11]
asciilifeform being zapped - is voluntary. [21:13]
mircea_popescu technology keeps empowering betas to be weird thus pissing women off [21:14]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves ;;rate ben_vulpes 2 Met IRL for drinks and neither of us murdered the other << lol neither of you strike as teh murderin' kind [21:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: empowering betas to be weird >> http://www.wired.com/2014/09/armys-new-laser-cannon-blasts-drones-out-of-the-sky-even-in-fog << e.g. this. yes, let's draw a ruler in the sky straight to own artillery position, [21:18]
assbot Army’s New Laser Cannon Blasts Drones Out of the Sky, Even in Fog | Autopia | WIRED [21:18]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i think it's called shoot and move. [21:19]
mircea_popescu the funny part here being how the line of the us agitprop was "o laser can't hurt our drones" for as long as it took em to finally get a laser mounted on a truck. [21:20]
asciilifeform not even to mention the traditional cheap answer to such tricks (ablative coating.) [21:20]
mircea_popescu i have nfi why they imagine it'll be useful against "rockets" and mortar shot. [21:21]
mircea_popescu it's quite obviously there to protect the us spy ships from their own drones, which apparently the chnese are mostly lifting [21:22]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: fat rockets dropping on parachutes, self-aimed at tank turrets (see yesterday's film with ukrs clobbered by such. 1980s soviet product.) [21:22]
asciilifeform only this rocket. [21:23]
mircea_popescu " for use against incoming rockets, artillery and mortar strikes" the man said. [21:24]
mircea_popescu "the amazing technicolor rainbow suit. more effective than kevlar!" [21:24]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [21:24]
asciilifeform incidentally, i've the pill against 'batteries suck, can't make useful drones in jungle conditions' [21:25]
asciilifeform wire guidance and... wire power. [21:25]
asciilifeform a la 'PTURS' [21:25]
mircea_popescu so basically a very advanced kite ? [21:26]
asciilifeform but with five-dollar electric motors. [21:26]
mircea_popescu and hire a bunch of middle easterner kite flyers ? [21:26]
asciilifeform nah, same as the customary model flying machine [21:26]
mircea_popescu (you know, the folk who know how to kite duel and cut wires ?) [21:26]
asciilifeform but unlimited endurance, and range as long as your spool [21:26]
asciilifeform objective can even be to wrap enemy in wire. [21:26]
asciilifeform (connect 100kV when done.) [21:27]
mircea_popescu "our strategy is to win by covering everything in plastic" [21:27]
asciilifeform if you can cover, e.g., 'predator' - in mylar - it's a brick. [21:27]
asciilifeform incidentally, you don't need two wires to power the machine. [21:28]
asciilifeform (high-frequency ac through 1 wire, rectifier a la tesla on the 'rocket' end.) [21:29]
asciilifeform kite << nope, ordinary 'n-copter' or even 'rocket' with propeller for thrust and servo-controlled fins. enemy can't jam - has to outrun or cut wire. can include whatever instruments (e.g. ir optics) you like. [21:34]
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chetty asciilifeform, forget the gasenwagen you'll get a nice little lab to build toys (with bars of course) [21:43]
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asciilifeform lol if stalin comes back from grave. [21:43]
asciilifeform 'I asked him to describe the equipment needed to focus x-rays at a lock and to read them, thinking that the “source” of the radiation would have to be large and well-shielded... ...The answer I received was quite amazing, but I guess not surprising. I was told that the isotopes which gave off the radiation were contained in a handheld tool about the size of a large flashlight. It was pointed at the lock and [21:45]
asciilifeform a separate piece of x-ray sensitive film was used to read the scatter. When I inquired about the safety of the operatives and their exposure to the potentially deadly radiation, Nicolai laughed...' [21:45]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [21:45]
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asciilifeform (http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebertobias/2011/05/19/a-former-kgb-covert-entry-expert-speaks << oldie) [21:45]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform, forget the gasenwagen you'll get a nice little lab to build toys (with bars of course) << the special wagenb :D [21:50]
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asciilifeform gauss gun darts ? [22:26]
asciilifeform (perhaps not. Ti has terrible conductivity.) [22:28]
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mircea_popescu http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/camel-toe-challenge.jpg [22:46]
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mircea_popescu http://naughtybits.us/ generally not so bad [22:47]
assbot Naughty Bits [22:47]
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mircea_popescu http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/fart-like-a-clydesdale_small.jpg [22:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/cok-juice.jpg :D [22:57]
mircea_popescu now i get why suka. [22:57]
asciilifeform lol! [22:57]
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decimation re: small plane safety: http://philip.greenspun.com/flying/safety " If you don't want to die like JFK, Jr., who became disoriented on a dark and hazy night over water, don't fly at night or don't fly at night unless you're absolutely sure that it will be clear with a bright moon. If you don't want to die when a 25-year-old part fails in mid-air, get a new airplane. " [23:00]
assbot General Aviation Safety [23:00]
decimation "I will be there on June 5 at 6:00 pm." Pilots of light aircraft who utter sentences of that form are very high risk pilots, regardless of skill level. [23:01]
mircea_popescu also in the same spirit : http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Heat-strokes-are-really-bad.gif make sure you get laid often enough. [23:01]
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decimation I have a simple solution to small aircraft accidents: don't let humans fly [23:02]
mircea_popescu can it be extended to "don't let humans drive" ? [23:02]
decimation yeah, pretty much, but car driving is a 'human right' in the us [23:03]
mircea_popescu so then. so's flying. [23:03]
decimation I just heard this podcast on "free market" environmentalism: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2014/08/terry_anderson.html [23:04]
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decimation his solution to "save the wales"? attach transponders so that humans can claim ownership [23:04]
mircea_popescu lol [23:04]
mircea_popescu i think when people talk of saving things, the don't mean save them in the sense cockroaches are saved. [23:04]
decimation hehe yeah but they should. I suspect more chickens live and die in the us alone every year than all of humanity [23:05]
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mircea_popescu yeah but what life is that. [23:06]
mircea_popescu if there was a way to save whales but it meant bottling them... if there was a way to attain immortality but you had to be an overweight, socially awkward shut-in ? etc. [23:07]
asciilifeform dulap! [23:07]
* asciilifeform recently learned that, for some niche applications, the known substitutes for whale oil are rather poor. [23:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/aqua-man.jpg ask and thou shalt receive. [23:08]
mircea_popescu yeah, there's still no substitute for petrified whale vomit. [23:08]
asciilifeform large number of gearbox failures in '70s was blamed on the faux oil. [23:10]
asciilifeform similar to present-day situation with pb-free solders. [23:11]
decimation asciilifeform: I thought that the usg signed stuff with rsa certs generally [23:11]
asciilifeform decimation: yes, but with what. [23:11]
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decimation well, certs that are hand-rolled on the thighs of young maidens by contractors with specific (unstated) qualifications: http://www.forge.mil/ExternalPKI.html [23:13]
asciilifeform (typically - ms-outlook.) [23:14]
mircea_popescu the army hasn't had a young maiden singe semiramis. [23:14]
mircea_popescu you're thinking navy. [23:14]
mircea_popescu and even there it's just the head. [23:15]
decimation re: navy << http://www.navytimes.com/article/20131115/NEWS06/311150017/-Fat-Leonard-fallout-Officers-talk-growing-bribery-scandal-epic-parties- They are more willing to pay for Singaporean whores [23:16]
decimation "Federal prosecutors allege that Leonard Glenn Francis, the head of the Navy’s primary husbanding company in Asia, regularly enticed naval officers to direct warships to more lucrative ports for his business by offering bribes including junkets, prostitutes, cash — even “Lion King” tickets." [23:16]
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mircea_popescu what exactly makes this an allegation ? [23:17]
decimation well, it's the 'navy times' [23:17]
mircea_popescu if he hadn't he should be fucking fired for being a humorless, idiotic puritan and bad for business. [23:17]
decimation this goes to what those in the us perceive as 'corruption'. [23:19]
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mircea_popescu yes, but then again the us is chiefly known for having squandered a fortune and built up the history's largest pile of unserviced ious. [23:19]
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asciilifeform 'corruption' in usa is just the same as, e.g., russian 'corruption' - took some, didn't share upwards with superior. [23:20]
mircea_popescu hardly a collection of people to follow in business. [23:20]
asciilifeform (with regards to which 'corruption' ends up a matter for criminal courts) [23:20]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OAqx7CJ1ew [23:21]
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decimation yeah if you zoom out, you realize this guy (or really his navy masters) is getting dinged for throwing a good party for some tired sailors in exchange for a few spare mil$ here and there: corruption! Throwing away trillions on various welfare/healthfare schemes: legitimate! [23:23]
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mircea_popescu decimation the difference ? "poor people aren't having FUN on those foodstamps". [23:25]
mircea_popescu it's so provincially, mean and narrow minded puritanism it bleeds. [23:25]
mircea_popescu there should be a word for this specifically american idiocy phenomenon. derpitanism or something. [23:25]
asciilifeform obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/08/miserable-pursuits.html [23:25]
assbot ClubOrlov: Miserable Pursuits [23:25]
decimation the permanent bureaucrats who run usg are famous for this attitude [23:26]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile at the other ranch, who the fuck needs viagra http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/hole-in-one5_small.jpg [23:26]
decimation I think this 'Puritanism' stems from a basic lack of skills on the part of the bureaucratic leaders. i.e. if you don't know how to write a contract for a nuclear submarine, you try to make sure that your employees are well dressed and that 'decorum' is kept. [23:28]
mircea_popescu this may be how it survived, but no. it stems from stupid us women going to churches run by stupid irish men, back in 1950. [23:30]
mircea_popescu and from the fact that the idiotic population of the us allowed the tavern lobby to be broken up and replaced by the church lobby. [23:30]
mircea_popescu worst fucking choice ever. [23:30]
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mircea_popescu a country in which dyonisos is defeated by apollon may do well for a while. but in this case, dyonisos was defeated by arachne. [23:31]
mircea_popescu what the fuck even. [23:31]
mircea_popescu (arachne, for they innocent of the classics, was a rude halfwit spinster - think modern day ceo-wannabe forum kid) [23:31]
decimation well when you give the vote to every breathing biped in a certain area this is pretty much what happens [23:33]
mircea_popescu not so. [23:33]
mircea_popescu it is actually a quite unique phenomenon. [23:33]
asciilifeform 'I receive Welfare. I live off your labor: you pay taxes and I don't do shit, twice a month I head down to the clean and spacious welfare office at 1515 Broadway and pick up my check. ... What, you don't like me? You don't want to pay? It's not much—278 dollars a month. You don't want to pay. Well then why the fuck did you get me to come here, me and a whole crowd of Jews? Take it up with your propaganda—it' [23:34]
asciilifeform s too strong.' -- herr limonov. [23:34]
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mircea_popescu lol [23:35]
mircea_popescu it's nonsense anyway. the people who actually make money - and by consequence pay taxes - have little problem with limonov and a bunch of other idiots getting 300 bux a month or w/e it is they get. which is why most rich people will pick a eager young slut's rent tab & so forth. da fuck does it make a difference anyway. [23:35]
mircea_popescu meanwhile poor people resent other poor people for various reasons. "she's a slut" "he's a bum" "they're too self righteous" etc. [23:36]
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decimation yeah there's some truth to that. there's a matter of scale involved too [23:37]
asciilifeform rich people will pick a eager young slut's rent << quid pro quo, 'enjo kosai', etc. - not much like usg 'welfare' [23:37]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not so. [23:37]
decimation the problem is the divorce between 'charity' and 'responsible to authority' [23:37]
mircea_popescu it's the abject middle class that haggles. [23:37]
asciilifeform there is not, afaik, a 'slut kolkhoz' maintained by usg... [23:38]
mircea_popescu what, you think the sultan of brunei actually fucks every girl in the 500+ strong harem ? [23:38]
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mircea_popescu i know multiple chicks there, none of them having ever had it. [23:38]
asciilifeform lol! stage extras! [23:38]
danielpbarron ;;rate fluffypony 3 my PPUSD for his BTC; I sent first, he followed through no problem. double digit BTC [23:38]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron the funniest part of all of this being that all the -otc derpheads that rate you have not actually and colectively traded as much. [23:39]
mircea_popescu but hey, opinions, right ? who's not got some. [23:39]
mircea_popescu anyway, orlov misses the major point here. it's not about rich/poor as a measurable characteristic. some people are strong, some people are weak. whether the weak are temporarily rich or permanently poor makes little difference at all, money's not for them anyway, nor anything else good in life. [23:44]
mircea_popescu so you know, telling me how strong people who temporarily became poor didn't really give much of a shit in terms of "the rich" is about as confusing as discussing pregnancy in terms of "look what people can do". tis not people, tis women and women only that can do it. [23:45]
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decimation "Take it up with your propaganda—it's too strong" << all manner of misery results when people start believing their own bullshit [23:53]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkYRdnxsqXM [23:59]
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