Forum logs for 06 Sep 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu | http://postimg.org/image/cwhj88wp3/ | [00:01] |
assbot | View image: tim lee | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | opportunities, they exist. | [00:01] |
BingoBoingo | !b 13 | [00:03] |
assbot | Last 13 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3SPF5Q4.txt ) | [00:03] |
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BingoBoingo | ;;ticker | [00:19] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 482.54, Best ask: 483.87, Bid-ask spread: 1.33000, Last trade: 483.64, 24 hour volume: 6573.80795705, 24 hour low: 481.02, 24 hour high: 492.99, 24 hour vwap: 484.861890152 | [00:19] |
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BingoBoingo | %d | [00:22] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 275840.58 in 1418 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -85.31 | [00:22] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.indecente.ro/fantezii/fetish-super-corset.jpg << i finally found some decent she-warrior armor | [00:31] |
chetty | dun think I wanna fight in that, lacks a little protection | [00:35] |
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mircea_popescu | welll... videogame fightin'. | [00:35] |
chetty | prolly better off fighten naked | [00:36] |
kakobrekla | Armor: +0.0001 | [00:37] |
chetty | well maybe a little more as a distraction | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | where's that poster thing | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | http://x1.fjcdn.com/comments/This+is+Terra+no+mods+needed+_cb6153ad9a0a894885121312fb4f6689.jpg | [00:41] |
mircea_popescu | http://x4.fjcdn.com/pictures/3f/82/3f827c_4771291.jpg | [00:41] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.17 = 1.36 BTC [+] | [00:54] |
BingoBoingo | Look what Uber sponsored: https://www.urbanshield.org/index.php/contacts/urban-shield-vendor-directory?sid=57&site=10 | [00:55] |
BingoBoingo | http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/03/us/philadelphia-drug-bust-house-seizure/index.html | [00:56] |
assbot | Parents' house seized after son's drug bust - CNN.com | [00:56] |
cazalla | mircea_popescu: give rakim a good job, i'll even return the nuke subs. <<< rakim is in jail http://i.imgur.com/jotYmaJ.png | [00:58] |
TheNewDeal | what did uber sponsor? couldnt see from the link | [00:59] |
BingoBoingo | TheNewDeal: Some sort of police cosplay conference or something... | [01:00] |
TheNewDeal | ahhh | [01:00] |
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asciilifeform | http://www.urbanshield.org/index.php/contacts/urban-shield-vendor-directory?pid=57&sid=220:XHAUSTR-Industries | [01:15] |
assbot | XHAUSTR Industries | [01:15] |
asciilifeform | ^ lol! potato in tailpipe !? | [01:15] |
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asciilifeform | https://www.freelancer.com/contest/Design-a-Logo-for-a-Police-Product-67956.html << and apparently he 'crowdsourced' the company logo... | [01:16] |
assbot | Design a Logo for a Police Product | Freelancer.com | [01:16] |
asciilifeform | http://www.workingbase.com/project/Design-and-Build-a-Website-for-a-Law-Enforcement-Product.3052162.html << and the company site... | [01:16] |
assbot | Design and Build a Website for a Law Enforcement Product (PHP, Website Design, Graphic Design, HTML) - Project ID: 3052162 - WorkingBase.com | [01:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063742 = 6.3742 BTC [+] {2} | [01:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063792 = 6.3792 BTC [+] | [01:21] |
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BingoBoingo | http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/09/04/us-usa-crime-bitcoin-idUKKBN0GZ2OG20140904 << Plea guilty, pay a million dollars, and still potentially face 5 years in prison | [01:38] |
assbot | Bitcoin promoter pleads guilty to unlicensed use of currency| Reuters | [01:38] |
BingoBoingo | Potential for 5 years in prison per http://online.wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-promoter-charles-shrem-pleads-guilty-1409870506 | [01:39] |
assbot | Bitcoin Promoter Charles Shrem Pleads Guilty - WSJ | [01:39] |
danielpbarron | is this over the feedzebirds thing? | [01:42] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: That was Erik, this is Charlie. This is the Bitinstant thing. | [01:44] |
danielpbarron | oh, the guy who bought some pot brownies over the internet? | [01:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.01039979 = 0.7072 BTC [+] {2} | [01:46] |
BingoBoingo | Haven't heard that one. | [01:47] |
danielpbarron | After reading through the entire criminal complaint against Charlie Shrem, it seems that he is guilty of nothing more than ordering some pot brownies off the Internet. http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/charlie-shrem-did-nothing-wrong/ | [01:48] |
assbot | The Complete Breakdown of How Charlie Shrem Did Nothing Wrong | [01:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 60 @ 0.01042405 = 0.6254 BTC [+] {3} | [01:48] |
danielpbarron | is it legal to sell someone world of warcraft gold if you know they will use it to buy drugs? | [01:48] |
danielpbarron | do I need KYC for shops I build in minecraft? | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.indecente.ro/fantezii/feterele.jpg | [02:02] |
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mircea_popescu | "His lawyer, Marc Agnifilo, said that what Shrem did was an aberration and that Shrem plans to continue working in the bitcoin world if possible." << ahahah sure, sure. | [02:05] |
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mircea_popescu | !up BananaLotus | [02:13] |
-assbot- | You voiced BananaLotus for 30 minutes. | [02:13] |
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BananaLotus | thank you mircea_popescu :) | [02:13] |
mircea_popescu | sure. | [02:17] |
BananaLotus | guruvan is helping me setup a WoT account :) | [02:18] |
kakobrekla | which part 'sure sure' | [02:20] |
kakobrekla | if the 'cont. working' ... people with larger wounds operate . | [02:20] |
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kakobrekla | infinite hitpoints. | [02:21] |
kakobrekla | punkman did you follow up 'all on no' on bb then? | [02:34] |
mircea_popescu | o hey, how goes guruvan ? | [02:37] |
mircea_popescu | ok, 7 reports published, am i done ? | [02:38] |
mircea_popescu | hallelujah. | [02:38] |
guruvan | very good thx. Took a bit more than a week to get back online, but made it :) been a long hard summer. how're you? | [02:38] |
mircea_popescu | never felt better. | [02:39] |
guruvan | nice. this place looks much improved. | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | actually, yes. | [02:40] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;seen rithm | [02:50] |
gribble | rithm was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: |
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mircea_popescu | ;;later tell rithm what's this loan business ? | [02:50] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [02:50] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-july-august-2014-combined-statement/ | [02:57] |
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Apocalyptic | !up BananaLotus | [03:12] |
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Apocalyptic | mircea, I enjoyed the last MPIF statement | [03:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00063792 = 18.6273 BTC [+] | [03:28] |
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punkman | kakobrekla: notrly | [03:30] |
punkman | not eager to gamble all my btc away just yet | [03:31] |
kakobrekla | seems to be bloody again. | [03:32] |
kakobrekla | er, blody. | [03:32] |
punkman | ;;ud blody | [03:33] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blody%20mary | ... blödmann · blodne · Blodomy · Blodrunk · blodsoe · Blodwen Buildings · blody mary · Bloebler · Bloedel · bloe job · bloem · Bloemer ... blody mary isn't defined. | [03:33] |
punkman | after a bit of spelunking this week, I can finally say "I'VE SEEN ALL THE COINS" | [03:34] |
punkman | physical coins that is | [03:35] |
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TheNewDeal | oooh blody mary | [04:28] |
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decimation | re: plane from Wisconsin that ended up in the Atlantic: http://mdcoastdispatch.com/2014/09/04/woc-based-boat-witnessed-weekend-plane-crash-fishermen-watched-as-f-16-jets-shadowed-aircraft-until-it-crashed/ << lol | [04:30] |
assbot | WOC-Based Boat Witnessed Weekend Plane Crash; Fishermen Watched As F-16 Jets Shadowed Aircraft Until It Crashed | [04:30] |
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decimation | Bob Builder (lol!) is a ... fisherman? | [04:31] |
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decimation | The most amusing thing about this story is the simple faith that Bob Builder expresses in USG: “You could tell the jets were extremely well-equipped and in control of the situation,” he said. “We obviously paid close attention, but at no time did we think we were in danger. I think the jets could have controlled where and when it went down." | [04:31] |
decimation | how would they control the plane? with tractor beams? | [04:32] |
TheNewDeal | decimation those Cirrus planes fly like rocks. Wouldn't be caught dead in one. | [04:32] |
decimation | my understanding is that they have a high cruise speed | [04:32] |
asciilifeform | decimation: how would they control the plane << this was a slip-up and meant literally. controlled how? with the mandatory remote-steering box. | [04:32] |
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asciilifeform | (mandatory only on passenger liners, afaik, but who knows - possibly some of the newer single-seaters have it as well.) | [04:33] |
TheNewDeal | http://www.m0a.com/cirrus-law-suit/ | [04:33] |
assbot | Cirrus Ordered to Pay 16.4 Million after Fatal Crash | [04:33] |
TheNewDeal | 2003 SR22 | [04:33] |
decimation | TheNewDeal: what aerodynamic defect does it have? | [04:34] |
TheNewDeal | I can't specify a defect. Perhaps poor craftsmanship | [04:35] |
TheNewDeal | Have you ever heard of a plane with a parachute? | [04:35] |
decimation | asciilifeform: the Cirrus has a parachute | [04:35] |
TheNewDeal | >< | [04:35] |
decimation | yes, they are standard on the cirrus to my knowledge | [04:35] |
TheNewDeal | Most of the planes I have flown on, had no parachute | [04:36] |
kakobrekla | a parachute < o shit, if only it would have an ejection seat | [04:36] |
TheNewDeal | The plane is probably worth more than the people it drives, generally undesirables | [04:37] |
decimation | apparently there was another 'lost plane' today too: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-f15-jets-escorting-plane-20140905-story.html | [04:37] |
assbot | Search underway to locate wreckage of unresponsive plane that crashed - LA Times | [04:37] |
decimation | TheNewDeal: I would like a parachute on a small plane, there are situations where it would save your life | [04:38] |
artifexd | punkman: Find any interesting physical coins or are Casascius coins still as good as it gets? | [04:40] |
decimation | asciilifeform: one wonders if that's an example of poor journalism or even worse propaganda | [04:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00063792 = 2.7112 BTC [+] | [04:46] |
decimation | re: zelda << "Some coworkers and I have been exchanging messages that we, up until recently, believed to be private. In these messages, we said some embarrassing things about mutual acquaintances, including comparing one female coworker of ours to Teflon and another pair of upper-level managers as "Batman and Robin". Unfortunately, these messages weren't private after all; someone posted them onto NSANet! :( Now everyone hates me | [04:48] |
decimation | and my coworkers. What can we do to make people like us again?" | [04:48] |
TheNewDeal | I'm saying if I had a million dollars, I would be staying far away from a Cirrus jet | [04:52] |
decimation | TheNewDeal: the Cirrus planes in question were prop driven if I'm not mistaken | [04:53] |
decimation | re: Cirrus http://airfactsjournal.com/2012/05/dicks-blog-whats-wrong-with-cirrus-pilots/ I think the more likely case is that the relatively new and shiny Cirrus planes attract inexperienced pilots with a sense of immortality | [04:55] |
assbot | What's wrong with Cirrus pilots? - Air Facts Journal | [04:55] |
TheNewDeal | regardless. Plane is probably named after a vehicle liability insurance for high risk policies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-22_(insurance) | [04:56] |
assbot | SR-22 (insurance) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | [04:56] |
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decimation | greenspun agrees that the sr-20 has challenging flight dynamics: http://philip.greenspun.com/flying/cirrus-sr20 " In terms of avoiding an accident, one problem with the Cirrus is its unforgiving handling compared to other basic four-seaters. For pilots accustomed to learning about an impending stall by feeling reduced airloads on the flight controls, the Cirrus provides much less stall warning. This is due to spring cartridges that | [05:01] |
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decimation | continue to resist flight control movement even when the airplane is not moving. In other words, the flight controls feel similar whether you're flying or stalled. " | [05:01] |
assbot | Cirrus SR20 (and a bit about the SR22) | [05:01] |
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mircea_popescu | similarly amusing piece of agitprop. find out what child raping horrible guys teh taliban are! | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | the mere insertion of cp in there... the cia just can't stop sending niggers to infiltrate teh gru | [05:05] |
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artifexd | I have not | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | hm lemme see | [05:09] |
artifexd | !s copper round | [05:09] |
assbot | 1 results for 'copper round' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=copper+round | [05:09] |
mircea_popescu | artifexd http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2nd-conference-6.jpg | [05:10] |
mircea_popescu | it's only "mine" in the sense i bought one. | [05:10] |
artifexd | Does it carry any block chain value or is it just pretty? | [05:11] |
mircea_popescu | whoa shit, you mean a parachute FOR THE ACTUAL PLANE !? | [05:12] |
mircea_popescu | bejesus, talk about just giving up | [05:12] |
mircea_popescu | artifexd just pretty. also huge, like 2 inches wide. | [05:12] |
decimation | mircea_popescu: yeah the whole plane has a parachute | [05:12] |
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artifexd | Who produced it? | [05:13] |
decimation | mircea_popescu: as geenspun explains, it is a legitimate safety mechanism, but it doesn't make up for the apparently "comfortable" handling | [05:13] |
mircea_popescu | this is like a submarine with wheels. | [05:13] |
mircea_popescu | because you just can'tg keep it in the water , and they know it | [05:13] |
mircea_popescu | artifexd wao got them iirc. | [05:13] |
decimation | mircea_popescu: well, the theory on that one blog is that because it has a parachute, inexperienced derps think they are invincible | [05:13] |
decimation | so for example one guy got in one late at night in bad weather and flew it into a hill | [05:14] |
mircea_popescu | from what i gather, it was missold. | [05:14] |
mircea_popescu | ie, sold not as an expensive and dangerous toy, but as a commuting tool. | [05:14] |
mircea_popescu | that, it is not. | [05:14] |
decimation | anyone who thinks of small airplanes as a commuting tool has a date with death | [05:15] |
mircea_popescu | "Normally a single-engine airplane has to be spun as part of the certification process. The Cirrus wasn’t. The FAA waived this requirement and accepted the airframe parachute as an alternate means of compliance. I kid you not, the spin recovery in a Cirrus is based on deploying the chute. That is the only way a pilot can recover from a spin in a Cirrus." | [05:15] |
mircea_popescu | jerks. | [05:15] |
mircea_popescu | legitimate my foot and who the fuck would fly that. good call TheNewDeal | [05:15] |
mircea_popescu | an unspinable single engine is not airworthy wtf. | [05:16] |
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decimation | it is true that if you want to fly a little airplane you are better off with a basic piper cub without fancy electronics | [05:16] |
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mircea_popescu | forget the electronics, this isn't a question of electronics in any sense. this is a question of fucking foil in flow. | [05:17] |
decimation | right, but the point is that the shiny electronics is what sells the plane as 'safe' | [05:17] |
mircea_popescu | i can throw a rock off a tall building and it'll spoend some time in the air too, that doesn't make it an airplane. | [05:17] |
mircea_popescu | you know, it occurs to me, all these small single engine planes should be only launched upside down from like 3 meters. by law. | [05:18] |
decimation | if one really wants a reliable communting airplane, one needs to spend several million $ to buy a reasonable jet that can fly above weather | [05:18] |
mircea_popescu | if it can't take off you just drop 3 meters and spend a month in casts for your sins | [05:18] |
mircea_popescu | if it can take off like that you'll be ok. | [05:19] |
decimation | like Hammurabi's code for aeronautical engineers? | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [05:20] |
decimation | The other day I witnessed a particularly skilled glider pilot perform full loops, he did 3 in a row. | [05:20] |
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mircea_popescu | "mp's gallow" it should be called. Γ << launch from there. | [05:20] |
decimation | The pilot who landed that jet in the hudson was a skilled glider pilot | [05:20] |
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decimation | mircea_popescu: I don't think any plane would survive that test | [05:21] |
decimation | if it started from a dead stop | [05:21] |
mircea_popescu | problem solved. | [05:21] |
mircea_popescu | that's what i do, i solve problems :D | [05:21] |
decimation | one would need a nazi-style rocket engine | [05:21] |
decimation | usg tried to modify a c-130 to land inside the Tehran soccer stadium to rescue the Iran hostages https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXfK4ypirI | [05:23] |
assbot | Lockheed YMC-130 Combat Talon Operation Credible Sport JATO Accident - YouTube | [05:23] |
decimation | It didn't work very well | [05:23] |
asciilifeform | does anyone still fly those 'suicide' choppers that consist of a chair and motorcycle engine ? | [05:25] |
asciilifeform | seems like an even better 'darwinator' than the amateur planes. | [05:26] |
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asciilifeform | (which work well enough in skilled hands) | [05:26] |
asciilifeform | 'The test bed aircraft (74-2065) was ready for its first test flight on September 18, 1980, just three weeks after the project was initiated.' <<< picture modern usg doing anything whatsoever on this schedule. | [05:28] |
decimation | asciilifeform: yeah it seems unlikely doesn't it? | [05:30] |
asciilifeform | spin recovery in a Cirrus is based on deploying the chute << if true, who bought this machine - and why ? | [05:31] |
decimation | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsOO03dHXGg | [05:33] |
assbot | Fatal Paragliding Accident Caught On Camera - YouTube | [05:33] |
decimation | asciilifeform: apparently the guy was a retiree http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/coast-guard-ends-search-for-brookfield-pilot-missing-after-crash-b99342068z1-273395281.html | [05:34] |
assbot | Coast Guard ends search for Brookfield pilot missing after crash | [05:34] |
decimation | given the circumstances of the crash, I think it is likely that the cockpit pressurization system failed - or the guy had a heart attack | [05:35] |
asciilifeform | '...served as chairman of the board of Wiscraft Inc., a nonprofit organization dedicated to helping blind people find employment in manufacturing.' | [05:36] |
* | asciilifeform wonders which manufacturers and of what... | [05:36] |
asciilifeform | phun phact. when i worked for u.s. army, the building cafeteria had a - blind cashier. | [05:37] |
asciilifeform | a result of some mandatory this-or-that. | [05:37] |
decimation | asciilifeform: I think all USG pens are made by the blind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skilcraft | [05:38] |
assbot | Skilcraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | [05:38] |
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decimation | apparently mandatory purchasing from the blind became mandatory under FDR! This revision of USG has grown long in the tooth. | [05:42] |
decimation | another interesting link: http://planesandstuff.wordpress.com/2014/06/13/2-b2-or-not-2-b2/ << this guy tracks the us air force from the UK with a few radios | [05:45] |
assbot | 2 B2 or not 2 B2 | planesandstuff | [05:45] |
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kakobrekla | ;;tslb | [07:00] |
gribble | Time since last block: 40 minutes and 12 seconds | [07:00] |
kakobrekla | arent these suppose to be on a 10 min. | [07:00] |
kakobrekla | i wanna complain to the bitcoin CEO. | [07:01] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063792 = 7.9102 BTC [+] | [07:28] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.3260912 BTC. Current weight: 52,800. | [07:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063792 = 3.1896 BTC [+] | [07:52] |
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artifexd | S.MPOE fell off a cliff again? Volatility that almost rivals BTC itself. | [07:56] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 922 @ 0.00068615 = 0.6326 BTC [-] {11} | [10:15] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.3260912 BTC. Current weight: 52,477. | [10:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00063768 = 3.2203 BTC [-] | [10:28] |
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punkman | artifexd, yeah there's a few nice coins. I liked the Antana concept, but they stopped making new ones. http://antanacoins.com/ | [11:26] |
assbot | Physical bitcoin statistic coin by ANTANA | [11:26] |
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punkman | after sleeping on it, I think I should try to make some of my own coins. Design suggestions welcome. | [11:31] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;google 1MqDj3fUp5Zdh275oS9NBAmcjYmuKzFNHL | [11:32] |
gribble | Bitcoin Block #319107 - Blockchain.info: |
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punkman | mircea_popescu: you ever seen my huge copper round ? << I thought you'd pull out a dick pic right there | [11:32] |
mircea_popescu | now why did you think that. | [11:33] |
punkman | but yeah that MJB design is everywhere. I think I might grab a couple. | [11:33] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17681 @ 0.00063697 = 11.2623 BTC [-] {4} | [11:36] |
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punkman | http://aeon.co/magazine/psychology/humans-are-wired-for-negativity-for-good-or-ill/ | [11:39] |
assbot | Praise feels good, but negativity is stronger Jacob Burak Aeon | [11:39] |
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punkman | another thing supporting the "all on No" proposition | [11:41] |
mircea_popescu | decimation blind people being able to do something with themselves other than mope isn't such a bad thing | [11:43] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [19:36] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 483.0, Best ask: 484.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 484.0, 24 hour volume: 3887.03400760, 24 hour low: 473.03, 24 hour high: 484.0, 24 hour vwap: 479.305821768 | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony people be loath to paypal. | [19:36] |
fluffypony | yeah, but risk is all on my side :) | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | nah, there've been cases where paying acct got locked. | [19:37] |
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mircea_popescu | i don't mean from a "you run off with monyz" perspective, loath. i mean "paypal=assholes not keep that much there" perspective. | [19:38] |
punkman | I've had PP limited twice when I spent a lot in one transaction | [19:38] |
fluffypony | oh yeah see what you're saying | [19:38] |
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ThickAsThieves | http://dpaste.com/2ZAFGC5 | [19:41] |
assbot | dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat | [19:41] |
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fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: lol | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | "We appreciate you being" did this get accepted meanwhile ? | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | what do they appreciate you or the being ? | [19:42] |
fluffypony | I recently did about $35 000 through the local exchange, and all they did was email me to ask if there's anything they can do to improve their site | [19:42] |
ThickAsThieves | i'll translate | [19:42] |
ThickAsThieves | "we know you wont do business with us if we ask, but we'd like to try asking anyway" | [19:42] |
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mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves maybe tell them that lol. | [19:43] |
mircea_popescu | "find a business model where you don't need to ask or you don't have a business" | [19:43] |
ThickAsThieves | i found the email outright offensive | [19:43] |
mircea_popescu | well that means your brain's not fallen to sclerosis yet :D | [19:44] |
ThickAsThieves | my bank never asked squat, fwiw | [19:48] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 13.520356 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 76.00227226 BTC. Current weight: 38,548. | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony decided ah what the fuck, i can't sell this btc for paypal, might as well dump it on gambling. | [19:52] |
fluffypony | LOL | [19:52] |
asciilifeform | http://dpaste.com/2ZAFGC5 << why use 'coinbase' again ? | [19:56] |
assbot | dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform to give the usg the false impression that its idiocy may work ? | [19:57] |
mircea_popescu | ;;bc,diff | [19:58] |
gribble | Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command. | [19:58] |
* | asciilifeform is a believer in vonnegut's 'you are what you pretend to be, so be careful what you pretend to be' | [19:58] |
mod6 | ;;bc,stats | [19:59] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 319411 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 1132 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 56 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 29369109956.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.07465 | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | a ty mod6 | [19:59] |
mod6 | yw | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 2.7 * (1.15)**2 | [19:59] |
gribble | 3.57075 | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 2.7 * (1.05)**2 | [20:00] |
gribble | 2.97675 | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 2.7 * (1.068)**2 | [20:00] |
* | asciilifeform is more or less permanently allergic to public btc exchanges of any kind | [20:00] |
gribble | 3.0796848 | [20:00] |
kakobrekla | [20:00] | |
assbot | dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | i have nfi why that bet is so lopsided on yes. for that matter, there could very well be a single block retarget before oct. | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform you familiar with premedieval economy in the north of europe ? | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | the sounds of scania and all that | [20:02] |
asciilifeform | only vaguely | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | the reason the hansa existed, as a basis for german style civilisation and the fundament of what was later dutch (and, after the blodless dutch conquest of britannia, english commercialism) | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | was this peculiar behaviour of fish, to congregate in this particular spot up north, to the point they got so thick you could fish with a sword. | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | this created a cheap source of protein as well as incentives to industrialise, because salt was needed to cure the meat so it kept. | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | conveniently, salt was very easy to mine, and the process to cure very simple. it never ceases to amaze anyone who seriously studies anthropology not that water is conveniently a universal solvent AND AT THE SAME TIME has a huge caloric capacity, | [20:05] |
mircea_popescu | making it thus possible for stable solute temperatures - althrough in principle there's no absolute reasons requiring this fortuitous coincidence life requires absolutely | [20:05] |
mircea_popescu | but that every single other step was always althrough history equaly conveniently "just as long as the baby's shins" | [20:05] |
asciilifeform | 'anthropic principle' etc etc | [20:05] |
mircea_popescu | quite. | [20:05] |
* | asciilifeform pages max tegmark | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | moving on : as far as the at-the-time humans could tell, the fish were "a gift from god", who ordered them to surrender to human interest. | [20:06] |
kakobrekla | great chinese usb b connector. you can rotate it 180 degrees and plugs in fine. | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | however, we know better right. so why did the fish regularly engage in a behaviour which the other party considered suicidal ? | [20:06] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: you can make from normal one with hacksaw. | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla it's supposed to do that. | [20:06] |
kakobrekla | too bad you cant undo it with a hacksaw. | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:06] |
kakobrekla | trolls! | [20:07] |
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asciilifeform | coinbase users as migratory herring. | [20:09] |
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mircea_popescu | tis what it is. | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | not people but things, nevertheless things have their own substance too. they exist. | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | and now you know more of business than virtually any business major in the continental us. | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | the entire fucking thing is basically cargo-cultism trying to re-enact the sounds of scania. somehow. | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | maybe if we put the twigs like this... | [20:11] |
punkman | from the btc-loans-are-great dept. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289668.msg5449688#msg5449688 | [20:13] |
assbot | Design a physical Bitcoin - (CONTEST IS CLOSED) | [20:13] |
asciilifeform | physical Bitcoin << two-legged vacuum lamp half filled with gallium. | [20:15] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/let-me-give-you-ideas/ | [20:15] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5889 @ 0.00063886 = 3.7622 BTC [-] | [20:19] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/let-me-give-you-ideas/#comment-107457 | [20:19] |
assbot | Let me give you ideas pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell mike_c hey is the wol chainwatcher behind on blocks ? | [20:22] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [20:22] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform aw shit nature beat me to it. | [20:24] |
asciilifeform | careful whatchawishfor. | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | http://sportysnetwork.com/airfacts/wp-content/blogs.dir/13/files/2012/06/bonanza-ad.jpg << aparently aviatics in the us have a long history of this retarded pitch | [20:27] |
mircea_popescu | "you know what'd be best for you ? if after a long harrowing day you get to worry about thge weather and take off stressed in the dark" | [20:27] |
mircea_popescu | fucking conspiracy of gold diggers | [20:27] |
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BingoBoingo | Fucking doing it so wrong http://www.isp.state.il.us/crimhistory/CHRIdecrypt.pdf | [20:39] |
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mircea_popescu | punkman true story : one of the cab companies in timisoara is called "bimbo vest" | [20:40] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: every usg fiefdom, large and small, has own fake pgp. | [20:41] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: wait till you see what u.s. military orders are signed with (when signed!) | [20:41] |
mircea_popescu | psp. | [20:41] |
BingoBoingo | fkt? | [20:41] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: bimbo vest << in usa, we have 'bimba' - they make pneumatic & hydraulic pistons. ubiquitous. | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | in costa rica, the wonderbread supplier is called BIMBO | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.grupobimbo.com/es/index.html | [20:43] |
assbot | Inicio :: Grupo Bimbo | [20:43] |
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asciilifeform | airplane scam << https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERCO_Ercoupe#mediaviewer/File:1946_Ercoupe_Advertisement_in_Skyways.jpg << i live near the ruins of a factory where these were once made. | [20:45] |
assbot | ERCO Ercoupe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | [20:45] |
* | asciilifeform is not convinced that cheap civil aviation in usa died a natural (i.e. market) death. | [20:46] |
kakobrekla | dc polarity protection without a diode (cant afford -0.5v) and without a relay (cant afford another -70ma) anyone ? | [20:47] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: LTC4412. | [20:47] |
kakobrekla | ;;google ltc4412 | [20:47] |
gribble | LTC4412 - Linear Technology: |
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asciilifeform | kakobrekla: or equivalent ( ask your supplier for 'ideal diode' ) | [20:47] |
* | mircea_popescu is curious what bomb kakobrekla is making | [20:48] |
kakobrekla | one that goes bang. | [20:48] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: you can also use a plain mosfet if you know what you're doing | [20:48] |
kakobrekla | better we assume i dont. | [20:49] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: 'ideal diode' then. | [20:49] |
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kakobrekla | might just do the trick. | [20:53] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: idea #1, kinda: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10911242/At-last-the-clothes-store-that-lets-you-shoplift-for-a-day.html | [20:54] |
assbot | At last, the clothes store that lets you shoplift for a day - Telegraph | [20:54] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2T065Axn | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | shit. my ideas ;/ | [20:54] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: cheapo. | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | punkman afaik that's how 90% of white women uder 30 shop for clothes. | [20:55] |
kakobrekla | ty asciilifeform | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | i recall this particularly instructive event when derpy noob woman started her own couture brand & shop | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | at some financial risk. but then her worries were rest at ease when > 25% of stock sold within a week | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | and then she went under as 90% of that was returned within another week | [20:56] |
punkman | that's why you sell them online, and let them pay for shipping to return | [20:57] |
ThickAsThieves | ha! i know that girl in the stock image on punkman's link | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves what happened to her nose ? | [20:57] |
ThickAsThieves | she's got a lot of freckles for a mixed girl | [20:58] |
punkman | how's this for a coin inscription: ducunt volentem fata, nolentem trahunt | [20:59] |
ThickAsThieves | pretty good | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | make it ducunt volentem Bitcoinae, nolentem trahunt | [21:01] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;rated ben_vulpes | [21:02] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;rate ben_vulpes 2 Met IRL for drinks and neither of us murdered the other | [21:04] |
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ThickAsThieves | http://www.wired.com/2014/09/for-sale-soon-the-worlds-first-google-glass-detector/ | [21:07] |
assbot | For Sale Soon: The World’s First Google Glass Detector | Threat Level | WIRED | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | A young lad who climed up in a tree was stung in the balls by a bee. He then made oodles of money by oozing pure honey every time he attempted to pee. | [21:08] |
asciilifeform | ThickAsThieves: as if the vendors of the hated gizmos really had to include, e.g, 'google' in the hello packet. | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | so basically that thing does... nothing. | [21:11] |
asciilifeform | being zapped - is voluntary. | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | technology keeps empowering betas to be weird thus pissing women off | [21:14] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves ;;rate ben_vulpes 2 Met IRL for drinks and neither of us murdered the other << lol neither of you strike as teh murderin' kind | [21:18] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: empowering betas to be weird >> http://www.wired.com/2014/09/armys-new-laser-cannon-blasts-drones-out-of-the-sky-even-in-fog << e.g. this. yes, let's draw a ruler in the sky straight to own artillery position, | [21:18] |
assbot | Army’s New Laser Cannon Blasts Drones Out of the Sky, Even in Fog | Autopia | WIRED | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i think it's called shoot and move. | [21:19] |
mircea_popescu | the funny part here being how the line of the us agitprop was "o laser can't hurt our drones" for as long as it took em to finally get a laser mounted on a truck. | [21:20] |
asciilifeform | not even to mention the traditional cheap answer to such tricks (ablative coating.) | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | i have nfi why they imagine it'll be useful against "rockets" and mortar shot. | [21:21] |
mircea_popescu | it's quite obviously there to protect the us spy ships from their own drones, which apparently the chnese are mostly lifting | [21:22] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: fat rockets dropping on parachutes, self-aimed at tank turrets (see yesterday's film with ukrs clobbered by such. 1980s soviet product.) | [21:22] |
asciilifeform | only this rocket. | [21:23] |
mircea_popescu | " for use against incoming rockets, artillery and mortar strikes" the man said. | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | "the amazing technicolor rainbow suit. more effective than kevlar!" | [21:24] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [21:24] |
asciilifeform | incidentally, i've the pill against 'batteries suck, can't make useful drones in jungle conditions' | [21:25] |
asciilifeform | wire guidance and... wire power. | [21:25] |
asciilifeform | a la 'PTURS' | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | so basically a very advanced kite ? | [21:26] |
asciilifeform | but with five-dollar electric motors. | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | and hire a bunch of middle easterner kite flyers ? | [21:26] |
asciilifeform | nah, same as the customary model flying machine | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | (you know, the folk who know how to kite duel and cut wires ?) | [21:26] |
asciilifeform | but unlimited endurance, and range as long as your spool | [21:26] |
asciilifeform | objective can even be to wrap enemy in wire. | [21:26] |
asciilifeform | (connect 100kV when done.) | [21:27] |
mircea_popescu | "our strategy is to win by covering everything in plastic" | [21:27] |
asciilifeform | if you can cover, e.g., 'predator' - in mylar - it's a brick. | [21:27] |
asciilifeform | incidentally, you don't need two wires to power the machine. | [21:28] |
asciilifeform | (high-frequency ac through 1 wire, rectifier a la tesla on the 'rocket' end.) | [21:29] |
asciilifeform | kite << nope, ordinary 'n-copter' or even 'rocket' with propeller for thrust and servo-controlled fins. enemy can't jam - has to outrun or cut wire. can include whatever instruments (e.g. ir optics) you like. | [21:34] |
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chetty | asciilifeform, forget the gasenwagen you'll get a nice little lab to build toys (with bars of course) | [21:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4941 @ 0.0006363 = 3.144 BTC [-] | [21:43] |
asciilifeform | lol if stalin comes back from grave. | [21:43] |
asciilifeform | 'I asked him to describe the equipment needed to focus x-rays at a lock and to read them, thinking that the “source” of the radiation would have to be large and well-shielded... ...The answer I received was quite amazing, but I guess not surprising. I was told that the isotopes which gave off the radiation were contained in a handheld tool about the size of a large flashlight. It was pointed at the lock and | [21:45] |
asciilifeform | a separate piece of x-ray sensitive film was used to read the scatter. When I inquired about the safety of the operatives and their exposure to the potentially deadly radiation, Nicolai laughed...' | [21:45] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [21:45] |
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asciilifeform | (http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebertobias/2011/05/19/a-former-kgb-covert-entry-expert-speaks << oldie) | [21:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00063233 = 7.9674 BTC [-] | [21:45] |
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asciilifeform | gauss gun darts ? | [22:26] |
asciilifeform | (perhaps not. Ti has terrible conductivity.) | [22:28] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/okpay-refunds-mtgox/ | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | !up deafboy | [22:38] |
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mircea_popescu | http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/camel-toe-challenge.jpg | [22:46] |
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mircea_popescu | http://naughtybits.us/ generally not so bad | [22:47] |
assbot | Naughty Bits | [22:47] |
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mircea_popescu | http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/fart-like-a-clydesdale_small.jpg | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/cok-juice.jpg :D | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | now i get why suka. | [22:57] |
asciilifeform | lol! | [22:57] |
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decimation | re: small plane safety: http://philip.greenspun.com/flying/safety " If you don't want to die like JFK, Jr., who became disoriented on a dark and hazy night over water, don't fly at night or don't fly at night unless you're absolutely sure that it will be clear with a bright moon. If you don't want to die when a 25-year-old part fails in mid-air, get a new airplane. " | [23:00] |
assbot | General Aviation Safety | [23:00] |
decimation | "I will be there on June 5 at 6:00 pm." Pilots of light aircraft who utter sentences of that form are very high risk pilots, regardless of skill level. | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | also in the same spirit : http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Heat-strokes-are-really-bad.gif make sure you get laid often enough. | [23:01] |
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decimation | I have a simple solution to small aircraft accidents: don't let humans fly | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | can it be extended to "don't let humans drive" ? | [23:02] |
decimation | yeah, pretty much, but car driving is a 'human right' in the us | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | so then. so's flying. | [23:03] |
decimation | I just heard this podcast on "free market" environmentalism: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2014/08/terry_anderson.html | [23:04] |
assbot | " + soundfiledesc + " | [23:04] |
decimation | his solution to "save the wales"? attach transponders so that humans can claim ownership | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | i think when people talk of saving things, the don't mean save them in the sense cockroaches are saved. | [23:04] |
decimation | hehe yeah but they should. I suspect more chickens live and die in the us alone every year than all of humanity | [23:05] |
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mircea_popescu | yeah but what life is that. | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | if there was a way to save whales but it meant bottling them... if there was a way to attain immortality but you had to be an overweight, socially awkward shut-in ? etc. | [23:07] |
asciilifeform | dulap! | [23:07] |
* | asciilifeform recently learned that, for some niche applications, the known substitutes for whale oil are rather poor. | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/aqua-man.jpg ask and thou shalt receive. | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, there's still no substitute for petrified whale vomit. | [23:08] |
asciilifeform | large number of gearbox failures in '70s was blamed on the faux oil. | [23:10] |
asciilifeform | similar to present-day situation with pb-free solders. | [23:11] |
decimation | asciilifeform: I thought that the usg signed stuff with rsa certs generally | [23:11] |
asciilifeform | decimation: yes, but with what. | [23:11] |
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decimation | well, certs that are hand-rolled on the thighs of young maidens by contractors with specific (unstated) qualifications: http://www.forge.mil/ExternalPKI.html | [23:13] |
asciilifeform | (typically - ms-outlook.) | [23:14] |
mircea_popescu | the army hasn't had a young maiden singe semiramis. | [23:14] |
mircea_popescu | you're thinking navy. | [23:14] |
mircea_popescu | and even there it's just the head. | [23:15] |
decimation | re: navy << http://www.navytimes.com/article/20131115/NEWS06/311150017/-Fat-Leonard-fallout-Officers-talk-growing-bribery-scandal-epic-parties- They are more willing to pay for Singaporean whores | [23:16] |
decimation | "Federal prosecutors allege that Leonard Glenn Francis, the head of the Navy’s primary husbanding company in Asia, regularly enticed naval officers to direct warships to more lucrative ports for his business by offering bribes including junkets, prostitutes, cash — even “Lion King” tickets." | [23:16] |
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mircea_popescu | what exactly makes this an allegation ? | [23:17] |
decimation | well, it's the 'navy times' | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | if he hadn't he should be fucking fired for being a humorless, idiotic puritan and bad for business. | [23:17] |
decimation | this goes to what those in the us perceive as 'corruption'. | [23:19] |
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mircea_popescu | yes, but then again the us is chiefly known for having squandered a fortune and built up the history's largest pile of unserviced ious. | [23:19] |
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asciilifeform | 'corruption' in usa is just the same as, e.g., russian 'corruption' - took some, didn't share upwards with superior. | [23:20] |
mircea_popescu | hardly a collection of people to follow in business. | [23:20] |
asciilifeform | (with regards to which 'corruption' ends up a matter for criminal courts) | [23:20] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OAqx7CJ1ew | [23:21] |
assbot | Chris Rock shows the Black Progress (Tiger Woods) - YouTube | [23:21] |
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decimation | yeah if you zoom out, you realize this guy (or really his navy masters) is getting dinged for throwing a good party for some tired sailors in exchange for a few spare mil$ here and there: corruption! Throwing away trillions on various welfare/healthfare schemes: legitimate! | [23:23] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation the difference ? "poor people aren't having FUN on those foodstamps". | [23:25] |
mircea_popescu | it's so provincially, mean and narrow minded puritanism it bleeds. | [23:25] |
mircea_popescu | there should be a word for this specifically american idiocy phenomenon. derpitanism or something. | [23:25] |
asciilifeform | obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/08/miserable-pursuits.html | [23:25] |
assbot | ClubOrlov: Miserable Pursuits | [23:25] |
decimation | the permanent bureaucrats who run usg are famous for this attitude | [23:26] |
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mircea_popescu | meanwhile at the other ranch, who the fuck needs viagra http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/hole-in-one5_small.jpg | [23:26] |
decimation | I think this 'Puritanism' stems from a basic lack of skills on the part of the bureaucratic leaders. i.e. if you don't know how to write a contract for a nuclear submarine, you try to make sure that your employees are well dressed and that 'decorum' is kept. | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | this may be how it survived, but no. it stems from stupid us women going to churches run by stupid irish men, back in 1950. | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | and from the fact that the idiotic population of the us allowed the tavern lobby to be broken up and replaced by the church lobby. | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | worst fucking choice ever. | [23:30] |
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mircea_popescu | a country in which dyonisos is defeated by apollon may do well for a while. but in this case, dyonisos was defeated by arachne. | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | what the fuck even. | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | (arachne, for they innocent of the classics, was a rude halfwit spinster - think modern day ceo-wannabe forum kid) | [23:31] |
decimation | well when you give the vote to every breathing biped in a certain area this is pretty much what happens | [23:33] |
mircea_popescu | not so. | [23:33] |
mircea_popescu | it is actually a quite unique phenomenon. | [23:33] |
asciilifeform | 'I receive Welfare. I live off your labor: you pay taxes and I don't do shit, twice a month I head down to the clean and spacious welfare office at 1515 Broadway and pick up my check. ... What, you don't like me? You don't want to pay? It's not much—278 dollars a month. You don't want to pay. Well then why the fuck did you get me to come here, me and a whole crowd of Jews? Take it up with your propaganda—it' | [23:34] |
asciilifeform | s too strong.' -- herr limonov. | [23:34] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [23:35] |
mircea_popescu | it's nonsense anyway. the people who actually make money - and by consequence pay taxes - have little problem with limonov and a bunch of other idiots getting 300 bux a month or w/e it is they get. which is why most rich people will pick a eager young slut's rent tab & so forth. da fuck does it make a difference anyway. | [23:35] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile poor people resent other poor people for various reasons. "she's a slut" "he's a bum" "they're too self righteous" etc. | [23:36] |
fluffypony | ;;rated danielpbarron | [23:36] |
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fluffypony | ;;rate danielpbarron 2 safe, efficient, 5-digit trade | [23:36] |
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decimation | yeah there's some truth to that. there's a matter of scale involved too | [23:37] |
asciilifeform | rich people will pick a eager young slut's rent << quid pro quo, 'enjo kosai', etc. - not much like usg 'welfare' | [23:37] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform not so. | [23:37] |
decimation | the problem is the divorce between 'charity' and 'responsible to authority' | [23:37] |
mircea_popescu | it's the abject middle class that haggles. | [23:37] |
asciilifeform | there is not, afaik, a 'slut kolkhoz' maintained by usg... | [23:38] |
mircea_popescu | what, you think the sultan of brunei actually fucks every girl in the 500+ strong harem ? | [23:38] |
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mircea_popescu | i know multiple chicks there, none of them having ever had it. | [23:38] |
asciilifeform | lol! stage extras! | [23:38] |
danielpbarron | ;;rate fluffypony 3 my PPUSD for his BTC; I sent first, he followed through no problem. double digit BTC | [23:38] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating for user fluffypony has changed from 1 to 3. | [23:38] |
mircea_popescu | danielpbarron the funniest part of all of this being that all the -otc derpheads that rate you have not actually and colectively traded as much. | [23:39] |
mircea_popescu | but hey, opinions, right ? who's not got some. | [23:39] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, orlov misses the major point here. it's not about rich/poor as a measurable characteristic. some people are strong, some people are weak. whether the weak are temporarily rich or permanently poor makes little difference at all, money's not for them anyway, nor anything else good in life. | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | so you know, telling me how strong people who temporarily became poor didn't really give much of a shit in terms of "the rich" is about as confusing as discussing pregnancy in terms of "look what people can do". tis not people, tis women and women only that can do it. | [23:45] |
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decimation | "Take it up with your propagandait's too strong" << all manner of misery results when people start believing their own bullshit | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkYRdnxsqXM | [23:59] |
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