Forum logs for 06 Oct 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [+] [00:03]
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pankkake http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ns4oa/we_are_being_watched/ lol [00:07]
ozbot We are being watched... : Bitcoin [00:07]
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mircea_popescu two snatches in a bar. one says to the other [00:08]
mircea_popescu hey... we're being watched. [00:08]
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pankkake redditors really want to name theymos, thermos [00:10]
pankkake I'm ok with that [00:11]
mircea_popescu redditors really want to matter. [00:11]
pankkake offtopic [00:11]
mircea_popescu "Who else knows about your subversive projects?" herp. [00:12]
pankkake haha [00:12]
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mircea_popescu in its 10 year history, nothing subversive came out of reddit. [00:12]
mircea_popescu in the remainder 5ish years of lifetime it still has, nothing subversive will come out of it. [00:12]
pankkake oh I agree with almost much of the hate about reddit [00:12]
pankkake it's 10yo already? [00:12]
mircea_popescu i think so. early 2000ish, wasn;'t it ? [00:13]
mircea_popescu spent their time being a shitty network back when everyone used stumbleupon and digg, [00:13]
pankkake I used it mostly in its first years, and I was slowly disgusted by it. despicable people who want to believe they're nice (and intelligent, and whatever) [00:13]
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mircea_popescu then digg sold out and went apeshit [00:13]
mircea_popescu so now the contingent of highschoolers are telling each other stories about how cool they are on reddit. [00:14]
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pankkake there is a saying, redditors are stupid people who try to appear intelligent, while 4channers are intelligent people who try to appear stupid (expect it's probably better said) [00:16]
mircea_popescu well to their credit the 4chaners succeed a lot better than the redditards. [00:16]
pankkake well, reddit is famous for stealing content. many top posts "my daughter made this" etc. revealed to be fake [00:18]
pankkake that's when you realize karma, user moderation is shit [00:18]
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mircea_popescu usg generally is a hopeless endeavour. [00:19]
mircea_popescu ugc* [00:19]
mircea_popescu turns out there's not an army of competent and dedicated people just waiting for the chance to make nice things for free. [00:20]
jurov so what's new about nsa labs except some lame bet? [00:20]
mircea_popescu who knew, seriously. and how racist, chauvinist and everything that is. [00:20]
mircea_popescu jurov not much. [00:20]
pankkake that certainly is a lame bet [00:20]
jurov and website that redirects to http://mpex.co/index.php?mpsic=S.NSA [00:20]
mircea_popescu well, domain. [00:21]
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thestringpuller you must have had a bad experience with reddit mircea_popescu [00:23]
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jurov good.. and eulora does have some site? [00:23]
mircea_popescu jurov nope. [00:23]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller notrly. [00:23]
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jurov i'd like to try newest eulora client, it's somewhere? [00:24]
mircea_popescu well yeah, same place [00:25]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/eulora-august-update/ [00:25]
ozbot Eulora August update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [00:25]
pankkake so I tried to make an altcoin (the bernankoin), but I'm stuck. not having bitcointalk doesn't help either [00:25]
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kakobrekla well, [00:26]
kakobrekla do you have a logo? [00:26]
mircea_popescu or did you mean the precompiled ? [00:26]
pankkake no, that must be why it doesn't work! [00:26]
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kakobrekla ;) [00:26]
jurov http://minigame.bz/eulora/news/news.txt [00:26]
mircea_popescu http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ is binaries. [00:26]
pankkake actually I'm stuck at the genesis block, or something like that (but I fixed the problem that is on the altcoin howto, not the one I have now) [00:27]
jurov yes... just wanted to explore around [00:27]
pankkake .bz ? [00:27]
kakobrekla biznis [00:27]
mircea_popescu server may be down if they're dicking with it tho, so might have to retry later. [00:27]
pankkake no that's .biz [00:27]
kakobrekla no thats business [00:28]
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pankkake belize. the country of bitcoin scams [00:28]
mircea_popescu anyway, i think we have a s.nsa logo [00:28]
mircea_popescu anyone here a logo artist ? [00:29]
kakobrekla hire that solar mining company guy [00:29]
kakobrekla he does wonders [00:29]
jurov i can add cherries and trucks and rainbows [00:29]
mircea_popescu can't detect if serious [00:29]
mircea_popescu or ima end up with angry guy face all over my logo [00:29]
jurov im srs!!! [00:29]
mircea_popescu k [00:30]
kakobrekla am i ever? [00:30]
pankkake I've done crappy logos with inkscape [00:30]
pankkake or even gimp [00:30]
kakobrekla with gimp you can logo like a chimp! [00:31]
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pankkake oh, the american NSA logo is hard. I wanted to try a parodyw [00:32]
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mircea_popescu i was thinking eagle-holding-cox [00:33]
mircea_popescu but meh. [00:33]
pankkake what I would see is NSA, with the A being a flask [00:34]
pankkake because labs [00:34]
mircea_popescu meh. [00:34]
pankkake that's not very original [00:34]
mircea_popescu ;;google trilema [00:34]
gribble Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Münchhausen trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [00:34]
mircea_popescu ha! [00:34]
mircea_popescu suck it wikipedia. [00:35]
thestringpuller that's cause you spelled trilemma differently [00:35]
thestringpuller ;;google trilemma [00:35]
gribble Trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Lewis's trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Münchhausen trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [00:35]
thestringpuller :P [00:35]
kakobrekla lmao last proposition http://bitbet.us/propositions/ [00:35]
mircea_popescu who cares about trilemma [00:35]
kakobrekla [hover over for text to show] [00:35]
mircea_popescu lol how does one send .39 btc and an email to addy ? [00:36]
kakobrekla magick [00:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 650 @ 0.00104684 = 0.6804 BTC [-] {3} [00:37]
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kakobrekla but respect for captcha solving [00:37]
mircea_popescu yeah. [00:37]
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pankkake http://i.imgur.com/RRA0Hj1.png [00:38]
kakobrekla looks like a car bashed in the wall [00:38]
mircea_popescu did you run out of pixels or what happened to that a ? [00:39]
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thestringpuller perfect! [00:40]
kakobrekla jurov can you add the rainbows to this? [00:40]
pankkake just did it in one go [00:41]
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pankkake and yeah lazyness [00:41]
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kakobrekla also can i ipo nasa then?! [00:42]
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mircea_popescu wha'd tha be [00:42]
kakobrekla dunno [00:43]
kakobrekla running a btc node on the moon? [00:43]
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pankkake fuck, I did it in in insckape, but pressing esc erased my whole thing [00:43]
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kakobrekla now do ctrl+z [00:45]
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mircea_popescu stop teaching him thingas [00:45]
jurov http://live.coinbr.com/images/nsa_rainbows.png [00:47]
jurov kakobrekla: ^^ [00:48]
mircea_popescu holy shit my temporal lobe fell off [00:49]
pankkake no, that's not how it works; esc while I was drawing the unfinished path [00:49]
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pankkake http://i.imgur.com/GM0b35K.png with unintentional swastika [00:51]
pankkake jurov: lol, I don't even know how to do that [00:52]
kakobrekla lolz [00:52]
mircea_popescu that's like the most illegible logo in the history of grafitti. [00:52]
mircea_popescu why not just write the letters on top of each other and bne done with it [00:52]
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pankkake okay: http://i.imgur.com/yAmrHMl.png [00:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [+] [01:00]
kakobrekla http://www.fontspace.com/dingfontbats/sassys-teddys-3#?text=NSA&fontsize=200&foreground=000000&background=FFFFFF [01:03]
ozbot Sassys Teddys 3 font by Dingfontbats - FontSpace [01:03]
pankkake that's even for bizness than trilema's comic sans [01:03]
pankkake more* [01:03]
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mircea_popescu trilema has a comic font ? [01:05]
jurov but you can't put them on top of each other [01:05]
jurov for that i recommend http://www.fontspace.com/bythebutterfly/littlemisspriss [01:05]
pankkake well yeah, that one: http://i.imgur.com/hDTH7ZN.png [01:06]
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kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/1L/NK/2b8chSA5/nsa.png [01:15]
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kakobrekla and a message from our sponsor hypnotoad: buy stock. [01:15]
mircea_popescu ahaha [01:16]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+] [01:19]
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dexX7 mircea_popescu: thanks, great post. [01:28]
mircea_popescu ;) [01:28]
dexX7 not so much information, but nice to read, to continue with my first statement ;) [01:28]
pankkake https://images.4chan.org/g/src/1381010808668.png [01:32]
dexX7 >_< [01:33]
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dexX7 so why are the forums still down? i mean, 90 % of all "job offers" are "i'm a dev etc." posts. is the hole crew so uberleet? [01:35]
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pankkake looking for how they got hacked so it doesn't happen again? [01:37]
Kleeck__ Last I read Theymos said they were rebuilding the server and reinstalling the software stack. [01:38]
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dexX7 pankkake: yes, that's the goal. there is a 50 btc bounty for the one who can reconstruct the hack. [01:38]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 26 @ 0.45 = 11.7 BTC [-] [01:49]
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asciilifeform new idiot circus: http://www.change.org/petitions/the-federal-bureau-of-investigation-fbi-release-the-confiscated-3-6-million-in-bitcoins-from-silk-road-founder-ross-william-ulbricht-back-into-the-bitcoin-community [01:54]
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dexX7 how wrong this is.. [01:55]
dexX7 actually they do want to liquidate the coins [01:55]
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dexX7 and the best for the community would be to just "lose" them [01:56]
asciilifeform let's say they burn DPR's computer on a pyre in the public square. This would in principle accomplish the same thing. [01:56]
dexX7 i'm not that interested that stupid fbi guys unload 28k in a market order =D [01:56]
asciilifeform like firing gold into the sun. anyone who holds the metal would be slightly richer. [01:57]
dexX7 yes [01:57]
dexX7 I support the idea that the FBI should set up a Bitcoin faucet to give these back to the community slowly. << well okay, that's a cute idea [01:57]
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pankkake someone is ddosing a lot of pools [02:03]
pankkake ;;bc,stats [02:03]
gribble Current Blocks: 261954 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 125 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 13 hours, 45 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 188534237.595 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.68677 [02:03]
ThickAsThieves I support the idea of punishing bitcoiners that assume every situation would be better decided by themselves even though they have no actual authority over or experience in anything [02:03]
dexX7 what was the "better" pool overview website again? [02:03]
dexX7 >_< [02:04]
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pankkake ThickAsThieves: but you can't do anything about it (except create a change.org thing?) [02:04]
ThickAsThieves i can put them on ignore [02:05]
ThickAsThieves but Theymos took that away [02:06]
dexX7 http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/chart.php << that's the one i was looking for [02:06]
ThickAsThieves :) [02:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 1.16076923 = 15.09 BTC [+] {3} [02:06]
ThickAsThieves i mean, Thermos [02:06]
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dexX7 hehe [02:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 111 @ 0.0115 = 1.2765 BTC [+] {2} [02:07]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol tjhat's happening. [02:07]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you don't understand the free market man. [02:09]
mircea_popescu the free market of ideas. [02:09]
ThickAsThieves opinions are like assholes, some should be explored, most are just shitty [02:09]
pankkake nice [02:10]
mircea_popescu http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/976/629/asian-baseball-boobs-cleavage-girl-japanese-sexy-softball-uniform-sexy-hot-babes-Tremendo-clean_large_display_image.jpg [02:10]
mircea_popescu lmao that;s some urlizing right there [02:10]
pankkake too bony [02:10]
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ThickAsThieves if i were the fbi and saw that change.org crap i'd basically be devising the way to cause the most tears [02:11]
ThickAsThieves reddites telling fbi to give SR btc to the 'community' [02:12]
mircea_popescu he's never coming out either way. [02:12]
mircea_popescu meanwhile, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380327/Baby-bird-attempts-swallow-carers-thumb-feed-falling-nest.html [02:12]
dexX7 ChaangNoi: http://www.change.org/petitions/the-federal-bureau-of-investigation-fbi-release-the-confiscated-3-6-million-in-bitcoins-from-silk-road-founder-ross-william-ulbricht-back-into-the-bitcoin-community [02:12]
pankkake how the fuck is that news [02:13]
ThickAsThieves i guess that makes all of youtube news [02:14]
ThickAsThieves maybe they should send it to the btc address with the most coins [02:14]
mircea_popescu lmao [02:15]
pankkake but why would they give it? when they seize usds, they don't give it to the usd community [02:15]
pankkake it makes zero sense [02:15]
pankkake brain not found [02:15]
asciilifeform the pyre. and sell tickets. better ROI. [02:15]
mircea_popescu pankkake you don't understand reddit. ask it anything, it'll say the same thing : "i want sum gimme" [02:15]
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pankkake lulz [02:25]
jurov good. let's go ask reddit to sign a petition for fbi to invest it into mpoe bonds [02:26]
pankkake no, they would ask to bail out labcoin [02:27]
ThickAsThieves can we insist they spend it on hookers and blow? [02:27]
mircea_popescu they could pay to blow hookers... [02:27]
blastbob1 we can put them into more tor open source development [02:27]
blastbob1 they would like that [02:27]
ThickAsThieves yeah have them donate it to Tor [02:27]
mircea_popescu blastbob1 blasts right in lol [02:27]
mircea_popescu i third the motion. [02:27]
ThickAsThieves a tor detector detector [02:28]
pankkake the FBI would never do something as productive as hookers and blow [02:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5045 @ 0.00021932 = 1.1065 BTC [+] {12} [02:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4105 @ 0.00022997 = 0.944 BTC [+] {3} [02:33]
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mircea_popescu maybe they could make a tor tor [02:44]
mircea_popescu so like, everyone's on tor right ? [02:44]
mircea_popescu so you can have within tor this plaintext protocol which nobody can identify [02:44]
mircea_popescu so you know that someone on tor isn't using tor [02:45]
mircea_popescu but you can't find out who [02:45]
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dexX7 so let's say you cloak and sign traffic with gpg or something like that.. like you do for order transmission. that's what ssl does, right? [02:51]
mircea_popescu nope. [02:52]
mircea_popescu that's what ssl pretends to do. [02:52]
dexX7 yes, because it's via a 3rd party [02:52]
dexX7 right? [02:52]
mircea_popescu not exactly and not just. think about it : gpg requires that i have your public key to send you stuff [02:53]
mircea_popescu and you have mine to reply. [02:53]
mircea_popescu ssl only requires you have the server's public key. it's thus half a protocol. [02:53]
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mircea_popescu more importantly, using pgp-style tools you have a dedicated signature identification step. you somehow acquire my signature. such as, from me. [02:54]
mircea_popescu in ssl, you acquire it on the basis that a third party says its ok, much like the dns system. [02:54]
dexX7 ah i see [02:54]
mircea_popescu the dns system is notoriously insecure, as proven by all the cache poisoning attacks etc. [02:54]
mircea_popescu recently google had its domains hijacked and there was jack shit it could do. for like days. [02:55]
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mircea_popescu in opposition to this, something like scp over keybased ssh would be secure, in the sense you can't read messages. [02:57]
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mircea_popescu it would still not be anyonymous, which is in general a much harder problem than cryptography. which is why bitcoin is secure but not anonymous, and why tor fails to deliver on anonymity etc. [02:57]
dexX7 thanks [02:59]
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dexX7 howard wang, the former dev of labcoin has spoken ... http://pastebin.com/rQfbUA8d [03:22]
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pankkake raise 7500 BTC, hire random dude on oDesk [03:24]
BigBitz LOL [03:25]
BigBitz yeah. [03:25]
BigBitz insane [03:25]
dexX7 read further [03:25]
dexX7 it's even worse [03:25]
pankkake they don't pay the guy :o [03:25]
mircea_popescu lol. [03:25]
mircea_popescu the flaming globes sigmund! it is just as you have prophesized! [03:26]
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mircea_popescu TheSeven http://pastebin.com/rQfbUA8d you got a comment ? [03:28]
pankkake I had to google that, I forgot about Flaming Globes of Sigmund [03:28]
pankkake I wish Rochelle, Rochelle existed [03:28]
kakobrekla odesk is 99.5% indians and losers at same time [03:28]
kakobrekla the .5 is just indian or just loser [03:29]
pankkake I don't know odesk specifically, but most similar websites are like that [03:29]
mircea_popescu well what are they gonna do. [03:29]
knotwork hmm what is this AVAtrade whose ad I just saw on facebook? A onventional forex site now including bitcoin? [03:29]
mircea_popescu "And, it happened that we have access on some 130nm library, so she decided to continue with this library." [03:31]
mircea_popescu "we stole some more software". [03:31]
mircea_popescu which reminds me, haven't heard of the bitfinex thing in a while. [03:32]
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pankkake raise 7500 BTC, be a cheap ass and don't pay for anything [03:35]
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mircea_popescu it just goes to further show exactly what forum fuckwits are worth [03:36]
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mircea_popescu comes out of nowhere, "we" and "our company", all "professional" and whatnot... [03:36]
mircea_popescu hasn't seen a whole bitcoin in his life. [03:37]
dexX7 well, they have a history going back to q3 2012 on the forums [03:37]
pankkake hehe, the "we" always make me lol [03:38]
mircea_popescu dexX7 theswede was registered in march. [03:38]
pankkake I should speak on behalf of Pankkake Industries Corporation Limited [03:38]
mircea_popescu what history ? [03:38]
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mircea_popescu pankkake what's wrong with kramerica ? [03:39]
pankkake theswede is just random pr guy - those are old time scammers [03:39]
pankkake some italians [03:39]
mircea_popescu right. [03:39]
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mircea_popescu i wonder what rosenfeld is doing these days. [03:40]
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dexX7 rosenfeld = the bdt guy? [03:41]
pankkake hm, yeah my next company will be Vandelay Industries [03:41]
mircea_popescu dexX7 meni rosenfeld, the foil for the bdt scam, but much older history. [03:41]
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mircea_popescu he created a fake "short" asset for pirate, he has a long history of trying to be the "respectable" part of various scams. [03:41]
dexX7 yeah, i saw some posts of him when i did a quick search for alberto [03:41]
mircea_popescu tho after his utter failure to rehabilitate that nick with his "vanity thread" etc i suppose it's not surprising he just let it drop. [03:43]
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mircea_popescu Sep 30 22:27:12 once again we advise all investors to buy shares while they are cheap, We are confident in fact that the price will raise tenfold in respect to IPO [03:45]
mircea_popescu Sep 30 22:34:00 mircea_popescu: you are simple minded. sorry but your are a psychopathic [03:45]
mircea_popescu ahh the good old days of last week! [03:45]
dexX7 wtf [03:46]
dexX7 is this from the log? [03:46]
mircea_popescu yeah. [03:46]
dexX7 that was just a faker [03:46]
dexX7 the original quote is from labcoin made on the forum [03:46]
mircea_popescu no, he came here because i went over on their chan for lolz. [03:46]
pankkake sure, but it was a troll [03:47]
pankkake quoting real things labcoin said though [03:47]
dexX7 zhenhua_wang = the guy who wrote the message which is on pastebin. he never was here on irc. [03:47]
dexX7 yup, pankkake [03:47]
mircea_popescu pankkake the distinction blurs. [03:47]
pankkake labcoin is trolling itself so yes [03:48]
mircea_popescu some emo chick that doesn't wash ironically is still an slovenly slut. [03:48]
mircea_popescu dexX7 anyway, it's common for pr to repeat the official line. -pr quotes me all the time. [03:49]
mircea_popescu how's that prove it's a troll. [03:49]
dexX7 hm? i'm just saying that "zhenhua_wang" has probably no connection to the "real" labcoin team [03:50]
dexX7 just to underline that this is not the guy who wrote the message [03:50]
mircea_popescu but probably why ? on the basis of what ? [03:53]
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dexX7 1. those quotes are from user "labcoin" (persona "sam" which is actually alessia), 2. howard/zhenhua wang is external and was hired by labcoin to create an asic, 3. wang never appeared on the forums/irc [03:56]
dexX7 so how likely is it that this guy surprisingly appears on irc to mock labcoiners? [03:56]
dexX7 according to the messages he was scammed by them, too and he seems to be a nice guy :) [03:57]
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mircea_popescu we're not discussing whether this guy is or is not X random person irl. [04:07]
mircea_popescu we are discussing if this guy was actually paid by / working for labcoin or simply trolling. [04:07]
mircea_popescu on the face of what he said, the former would seem to be rather the case. [04:08]
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mircea_popescu now whether it was really sam/alesia/theswede/whoever the fuck else that came here to bitch under that nick.... who cares. [04:09]
pankkake doubt it [04:09]
pankkake he just wanted to play with you [04:09]
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mircea_popescu right, and the duck i ate earlier was just feigning. [04:12]
mircea_popescu because it's really impossible it be the case that the redditard generation is quite fucking stupid enough to do something on sept 30th and the exact oposite on oct 5 [04:13]
mircea_popescu without being able to actually confront the fact that looky how fucking retarded we are. [04:13]
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pankkake you're such a simple minded psychopathic :) [04:15]
pankkake [03:13] we'll put motion up as soon as the board is up [04:15]
pankkake [03:13] to take over the company form the scammers [04:15]
pankkake [03:13] 70% is majority by far [04:15]
pankkake lol [04:15]
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pankkake those guys are still deluding themselves [04:15]
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mircea_popescu in other news, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/salo-9.jpg [04:18]
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mircea_popescu http://gizmodo.com/does-political-belief-make-you-suck-at-math-1440010845 [09:42]
mircea_popescu basically, it does. [09:42]
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Vexual good day gents [11:08]
phish .d [11:14]
ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 42 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.4550% in 0d 4h 58m 59s [11:14]
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phish ;;genrate 30000 [11:21]
gribble The expected generation output, at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 148819199.805, is 0.101379361754 BTC per day and 0.00422414007307 BTC per hour. [11:21]
mircea_popescu heya. [11:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5773 @ 0.00084887 = 4.9005 BTC [-] [11:23]
Vexual How are you MP? [11:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 9 @ 0.01189999 = 0.1071 BTC [+] [11:27]
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mircea_popescu great. [11:34]
Vexual That is good to hear, I am having a quiet evening watching a sliver of the moon sitting on a beautiful sunset. It feels as though everything is right in the world. [11:39]
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* mircea_popescu goes to report a stolen moon. [11:53]
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Vexual http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-18/science/42182028_1_sunspots-maunder-minimum-solar-cycle [11:58]
ozbot Solar activity drops to 100-year low, puzzling scientists - Times Of India [11:58]
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mircea_popescu its man made. [12:10]
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Vexual indeed, 10,000 year model is no good with the cosmos [12:11]
mircea_popescu esp when it's a 55 year model extrapolated through the use of purpose-tailored math. [12:11]
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Vexual dont get met started on the misuse of orbital telescopes [12:15]
mircea_popescu :p [12:15]
Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0 [12:18]
ozbot Patience - YouTube [12:18]
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mircea_popescu this has got to be the best google translate ever : http://postimg.org/image/4dyqw79x3/ [12:22]
Vexual savage [12:23]
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jurov http://i.imgur.com/4nsBBpq.jpg just a morning wo..er wisdom [12:58]
b0n1 are the passwords of bitcointalk salted? If so, were the hackers able to read out the salted random numbers? [13:00]
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mircea_popescu The whole enterprise of counting publications as a means to evaluating research excellence is pernicious and completely absurd. If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content. What we now have in academia is a situation [13:04]
mircea_popescu where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. [13:04]
mircea_popescu b0n1 as far as anyone knows they were not salted but put through 7500 iterations of whatever goop. [13:05]
pankkake that's pretty much what all scientists say - or maybe I have biais on those I know [13:12]
pankkake and yet, it goes on [13:12]
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Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeTAWyXx00 [13:16]
ozbot Bob Marley Babylon System Demo 1979 - YouTube [13:16]
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Vexual a funny thing i have noticed about university et al, is that professors will get students to write and submit papers that for the basis of what they want to say later [13:33]
Vexual *form [13:33]
Vexual form over substance [13:34]
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Vexual it can be called gruntwork, but when someone else is pulling the strings... [13:36]
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jurov ;;bc,stats [13:39]
gribble Current Blocks: 262051 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 28 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours, 6 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 189402885.915 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.27046 [13:39]
jurov lol it's going to be 30% again? [13:40]
pankkake and this despite the many ddoes [13:40]
Vexual theres some facinating data mining going on in neroscience that throws the convention oh "hypothesis" out the window [13:41]
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Vexual imaging crazy brains is cool science [13:47]
Vexual and when those wizards release their tools to the genetecists, boom, info 2.0 [13:49]
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Vexual psychiatry, where philospohy meets science [13:57]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 52 @ 0.01 = 0.52 BTC [-] [14:00]
Vexual datamining with obscure data. dem patents [14:00]
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Vexual its a pity how all the good shit is fully funded [14:03]
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jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1nt0k3/what_is_something_youve_seen_that_no_one_will/cclqu68 the shit i'm reading sometimes [14:07]
jurov i should stop [14:08]
Vexual is america still a thing? [14:08]
jurov it's a hypothesis [14:09]
Vexual its people and acres and a spirit of innovation [14:10]
jurov and bald eagles [14:10]
Vexual but theyre all mental [14:10]
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Vexual weve got fucking wedge tailed eagles which are way more boss, and would beast a bald eagle in any competition imaginable except baldness, and we just go about our business and don't parade our awesome eagles much very oft at all [14:12]
pankkake "Now, I I only had a government..." [14:13]
pankkake http://www.reddit.com/r/MURICA/ is fun [14:13]
ozbot 'MURICA FUCK YEAH! [14:13]
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Vexual australia is best ralia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fXO0CDSZT0 [14:25]
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Vexual also mining lease fees ahvent changed for 100 years, and we got rocks [14:37]
Vexual kennilworth investors bought the operators a landcruiser and some salaries [14:39]
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Vexual the magnetic imaging was done,it was double talk and paper pushing [14:40]
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Vexual real miners never own the land where the lease is [14:41]
Vexual unless it wasnt owned before [14:42]
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Vexual mining warden is nearly as boss as queen here [14:46]
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Vexual goes like this [14:55]
Vexual applicant: i want 100 hectares as bordered by hese coordinates [14:56]
pankkake so kenilworthnothing is a scam? [14:56]
Vexual warden: are the borders runnung north south and east west and do you have the $374 and the approprate form [14:57]
Vexual applicant: yes [14:57]
Vexual warden: will you attempt to mine the and in your lifetime? [14:57]
Vexual applicant: yes [14:57]
Vexual warden: the court accepts the license [14:57]
Vexual pankkake, how much money did they get? [14:58]
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pankkake I don't know, didn't follow it much [14:59]
Vexual i dont think its a scam by australian standards, but i'm guessing if they wanted they could chase burnside for more money [14:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share [15:00]
Vexual are they listed on the asx too? its well dodgy [15:00]
Vexual its about what one would expect with a speculative mining lease multiplied by bitcoin 2013 [15:02]
Vexual and i'd say if the ira was a bother to uncle sam, their names might ring bells with prism [15:04]
Vexual but weve got more war criminals and psycopaths per capita than south amrica, so who cares [15:05]
Vexual freedom fighters, whatever your fancy [15:06]
pankkake I have a hard time understanding your points [15:09]
Vexual the world isnt big enough for speculative leaseholders anymore [15:10]
Vexual what you want is smart dudes, on the ground, mining in cheap labour countries [15:10]
Vexual gold in the philippines and africa [15:10]
Vexual people skills [15:11]
Vexual not buying diggers incase the land is profitable [15:12]
Vexual coz when the go bankrupt, they keep the diggers in the shed until after the creditors are paid, and noone stops them [15:13]
Vexual its the third oldest trick in the book, after selling your cooch and "get em hooked and jack up the price" [15:14]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00285003 = 0.1055 BTC [-] [15:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-] {3} [15:17]
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Vexual kenilworth is a mining lease taken out on a family farm with no intention of ever mining or allowing it to be mined, if there's even anything there [15:22]
Vexual new landcruiser. [15:24]
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Vexual im gonna have to get a gun like mp if i keep talking shit on the internet [15:32]
Vexual i imagine he had a german made 45 pistol [15:33]
Vexual the kind of thing that stops a conversation abruptly [15:33]
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Vexual i imagine one can be a gentleman and own a gun in romania, but i might be wrong [15:39]
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Vexual manila, now there you buy a $10 license and its cod machine pistols [15:42]
Vexual is just that little bit right of guam you know [15:44]
Vexual pankkake was it you talking of laying new sea cables the other day? [15:48]
pankkake no [15:48]
Vexual oh [15:48]
Vexual are you asian? [15:53]
Vexual coz asia is the place to lay cable [15:54]
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Vexual http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Lower_NTK_Estate_old_squat_toilet.jpg [15:56]
Vexual goat [15:56]
Vexual coming soon to the crime section of bankok international airbort bookshop [15:59]
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Vexual how dpr1.0 framed dpr2.0 for his own murder [16:00]
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Vexual everyone gets off and they take more acid [16:01]
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Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lTAT0dZMRw [16:02]
ozbot Scott McKenzie - San Francisco REMIX - YouTube [16:02]
phish .d [16:03]
ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 13 blocks | Estimated Change: 26.9513% in 0d 1h 30m 32s [16:03]
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Vexual cexio 2002 [16:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+] [16:06]
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Vexual no riddles today, theres a solar storm coming in three days [16:18]
Vexual id bitbet it, but it would be immoral [16:19]
Vexual yes i mean a coronal ejection from the sun [16:23]
Vexual quantify the magnitude you say? [16:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1308 @ 0.00125214 = 1.6378 BTC [+] {6} [16:25]
Vexual i say print out your bitcoin wallets just in case [16:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.01206999 = 0.8208 BTC [+] [16:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.01214887 = 4.9203 BTC [+] {3} [16:33]
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Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBi-LNM0Og [16:38]
ozbot Happy Mondays - Step On - YouTube [16:38]
jurov http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-payment-protocol-makeover/ - plan to establish bitcoin certificate authorities [16:42]
jurov But concerns over certificate security irritate Hearn. “The reality is that [certificate technology] is the best we’ve got, it’s being improved via initiatives like cert transparency, and it has a track record of stopping worst case adversaries.” [16:43]
Vexual i want afuckin refund [16:44]
jurov not a single word who shall manage the root certificate [16:44]
jurov Vexual: sorry to break your happy mood [16:45]
Vexual ya cant [16:45]
jurov oh it's prolly meant to build on existing SSL CA infrastructure?... god save us [16:49]
Vexual seems like bitcoin devs are going beyond what is required of the blockchain [16:49]
jurov oh, they do it since satoshi left. except when they have to fix the breakage. [16:50]
Vexual but we dont have to bip [16:51]
Vexual satoshi left ike dpr1.0 [16:51]
Vexual except satoshi didnt keep getting a paycheck [16:52]
Vexual hey i made a disruptive thing, im audi [16:52]
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jurov you mean like we "don't have to" buy a recognized ssl certificate? [16:54]
jurov i can see where this is supposed to go... to provide "SSL-secured(r)(tm) bitcoin deposit address" [16:55]
jurov you'll have to pay CA scammers for ssl cert? [16:55]
Vexual dont make me say it [16:55]
jurov cause, how else will the poor customer be sure the address is really yours? [16:56]
Vexual read [16:56]
jurov makes me sick... hopefully this won't fly [16:56]
Vexual it will, you dont need to use it [16:57]
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jurov me not. but what if i get inquiries like "but my wallet says coinbr deposit address is untrusted!!!"? [16:58]
Vexual :) [16:58]
Vexual relax [17:00]
pankkake bitcoin developers using broken CA system when they have… namecoin [17:00]
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Vexual ill grant you its more kinds or irony than a trilemma post, but just like them, don't lose no sleep [17:01]
jurov pankkake: this. or the addy can be verified in distributed manner by other my customers gpg signing it [17:01]
jurov heck, or even btc-signing it [17:03]
Vexual my handspan exceeds my inet nippular siastance [17:05]
Vexual *inter [17:05]
Vexual *distance [17:05]
jurov and what does it mean? heightened testosterone? [17:06]
Vexual marfans? [17:06]
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jurov kleptomania? [17:08]
Vexual no [17:10]
Vexual i just like vectors [17:11]
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Vexual where do you live jurov? [17:11]
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Vexual i like to work out the geographical crow flight half way point [17:12]
Vexual ill also just get your mothers maiden name for your star chart [17:13]
jurov wait, they use what now in star charts? [17:14]
Vexual penis size? [17:14]
Vexual its just for the chart [17:15]
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jurov and i did tell where i live several times already, do your research [17:15]
Vexual did you? [17:16]
Vexual ddid i? [17:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 8 @ 0.4625 = 3.7 BTC [+] [17:16]
Vexual i actually am interested in halfway [17:16]
Vexual unlike your mother or your penis [17:16]
Vexual as a bonus you get to knpow the direction to avoid [17:18]
jurov as a result of half-assed research? [17:18]
jurov if, then i want full-assed one [17:18]
Vexual well im gessing its somewhere in the middle of the pacific' [17:19]
Vexual see how i dropped the u? [17:20]
jurov no idon't want to see what ur doing with the keyboard [17:20]
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Vexual i always eat the extra enter key [17:21]
VanCleef vexual pinoy ka ba? [17:22]
VanCleef muzta? [17:22]
Vexual shabbadabba [17:22]
VanCleef siiiiige [17:22]
Vexual yeah i dont know what that is [17:22]
Vexual where are u vancleef? holland? [17:23]
VanCleef brazil [17:23]
jurov i didn't considered human tallow there edible [17:23]
jurov *consider [17:23]
Vexual human tallow? fork man [17:24]
Vexual are u dutch vancleef? [17:24]
jurov on the other enter key [17:24]
Vexual our halfway is pacific ocean [17:24]
VanCleef i'm not a filthy dutchmen [17:24]
Vexual why so van? [17:25]
VanCleef because i use soap [17:25]
Vexual to the root? [17:26]
VanCleef i dont believe in your magic [17:26]
Vexual i dont undertsnad the connection [17:26]
jurov i think our halfway is the atlantic then [17:26]
Vexual wise [17:28]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.01509, Best ask: 135.49499, Bid-ask spread: 0.47990, Last trade: 135.00505, 24 hour volume: 3673.53219031, 24 hour low: 135.00505, 24 hour high: 138.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.56759 [17:28]
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Vexual vancannibal, our halfway could be mauritius if we went the ,ong way [17:30]
Vexual sau paulo [17:33]
Vexual your dad made a machine [17:36]
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assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7574 @ 0.0001304 = 0.9876 BTC [-] {2} [17:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.2889 = 3.8667 BTC [+] {2} [17:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00084843 = 2.9695 BTC [-] {2} [17:56]
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assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80610 @ 0.00012366 = 9.9682 BTC [-] {6} [18:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1116 @ 0.00129789 = 1.4484 BTC [+] {2} [18:00]
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Vexual http://ethno.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/en/southwest/imgs/WA/WA_07-06.jpg [18:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 180 @ 0.0082 = 1.476 BTC [+] [18:03]
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Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS5tgNC6qw [18:08]
ozbot BULLET STUNT KAMMO TAKHAR - YouTube [18:08]
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assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6450 @ 0.0001517 = 0.9785 BTC [+] {3} [18:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.3 = 3.9 BTC [+] {2} [18:14]
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Vexual there was a storm on the 3rd, i might be wrong [18:22]
Vexual fuck it, let it ride [18:22]
Vexual 10/10/13 [18:22]
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Jere_Jones ThickAsThieves: Your presence is requested in #asicminer [19:07]
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mircea_popescu any competition imaginable except baldness << lmao [19:20]
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mircea_popescu so kenilworthnothing is a scam? << it's an amazing business minus the amazing and the business part. [19:24]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:24]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:24]
mircea_popescu jurov that dude is retarded jesus. [19:27]
jurov who? vexual? [19:27]
mircea_popescu no hearn & co. [19:28]
mircea_popescu "certificates are shit but nevertheless i don't understand anything and really want to matter so here's my authoritative opinion on shit i really have no business discussing [19:29]
mircea_popescu please pay attention to me because i hjave a proven track record of having accidentally forked the chain and i really suck at coding" [19:29]
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mircea_popescu anyway, forget about power rangers. here : The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”. He comes back with 12 loaves of bread. [19:32]
VanCleef < mircea_popescu> HH so kenilworthnothing is a scam? << it's an amazing business minus the [19:33]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:33]
VanCleef amazing and the business part. - lol [19:33]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:33]
mod6 ;;bc,stats [19:35]
gribble Current Blocks: 262097 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1998 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 46 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 326660200.57 | Estimated Percent Change: 72.57927 [19:35]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: "I gave the fool an ax, so he would bring some twigs; so to the mosque he ran, and smashed the door to sticks." [19:37]
asciilifeform (impromptu hack of a translation from russian, originally of a persian rhyme, that i read as a kid.) [19:38]
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asciilifeform (re: programmer & his bread.) [19:38]
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mircea_popescu :p [19:40]
mircea_popescu about the ddoses : i suspect bitcoin mining will fundamentally change the way internet adressing works. [19:40]
mircea_popescu the problem is that even if you aren't trying to do a 50% attack, it is now more lucrative to ddos someone than to increase your mining farm. [19:41]
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mircea_popescu if you hold 10% of hashpower and another dork holds 10% of hashpower, you can either spend mns of dollars to add another 1% to your hashing or to knock him offline [19:41]
mircea_popescu never before has it actually been millions of dollars in cash for ddosing a target. [19:41]
asciilifeform knocking the competing miner offline helps all of the survivors, not just you, though [19:42]
mircea_popescu and quite frankly nothing else happening on the internet today matters by comparison, so it'll have to change. [19:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah. which is why you can probably just start it and they'll pile in. [19:42]
mircea_popescu becomes very much lord of the flies. [19:42]
asciilifeform when rats in a box, they eat each other, the last one dies of its wounds, and the box will eventually contain something else. [19:43]
mircea_popescu exactly. [19:45]
mircea_popescu this is much more of a problem for the future than anything the retardevs are fiddling with. [19:45]
asciilifeform the sad part is that this isn't even a hard problem. [19:46]
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mircea_popescu im not so sure. [19:46]
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asciilifeform trivial solution: a kind of reverse mining pool, where people are paid small btc continuously to run single-purpose proxies [19:48]
asciilifeform that makes your mega-asic-cluster look like a mining botnet [19:49]
asciilifeform nothing to ddos [19:49]
asciilifeform or, more intelligently, solo mining distributed over multiple independent proper btc nodes. [19:50]
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KRS1 wouldnt that make it more robust and less prone to failure [19:56]
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mircea_popescu the latter would be the ideal solution. [19:59]
mircea_popescu my secret hope is that THIS is what will end up resolving the "not paid to convey tx" problem [19:59]
mircea_popescu you will be paid, by the miners who don't want to be ddos'd to shit. [19:59]
mircea_popescu if that indeed is how the chips fall i'll be quite impressed with satoshi's genius, for originally i thought the node pauyment problem was oversight. [20:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 18000 @ 0.00016296 = 2.9333 BTC [+] {6} [20:02]
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kakobrekla fuckin microtik, pressed the wrong button, lost an hour of life. [20:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001787 = 0.3574 BTC [+] [20:07]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla same thing happened to me earlier. [20:08]
mircea_popescu was fondling this chick, accidentally touched the button, one hour later i was back on my feet. [20:09]
kakobrekla :p [20:09]
* jurov is losing lifetime to uwsgi configuration... stuff has not even a fkn button to gleefully press [20:09]
pankkake I'm not sure I understand this analogy [20:09]
pankkake also, microtik does not respect your freedoms [20:10]
mircea_popescu http://www.urbit.org/2013/09/26/palaz.html < loller. [20:10]
ozbot Urbit - Tea at the Palaz of Hoon [20:10]
jurov what? and bitches do respect? [20:11]
mircea_popescu totally. [20:12]
jurov mircea i read that yest, had brain meltdown, filed it for later [20:12]
mircea_popescu if they don't it's the little room for them. [20:12]
mircea_popescu jurov for the record, i'm not pushing it, asciilifeform is pushing it. imo the guy's walking around with shoes too large for his feet. but anyway. [20:12]
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jurov yea i know it's originally from him.. and i understood so far he sems to intend to implement some [20:14]
jurov insanely simplified functional language [20:14]
jurov in , say, 500 transistors [20:14]
jurov and thus make provably correct hardware [20:14]
mircea_popescu basically, let's take all the reason people don't use forth and add mud. [20:15]
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mod6 this urbit thing is neato [20:26]
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nubbins` hi [20:51]
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nubbins` mircea_popescu: i've got a list of magistrate judges that were serving in 1993, but your blog thinks i'm a robot. [20:53]
mircea_popescu heya! [20:54]
mircea_popescu you need to give it a few seconds after you load a page, otherwise if you just paste shit in [20:54]
mircea_popescu it will spit [20:54]
nubbins` hmm, been on the page for a good 10 minutes now [20:57]
nubbins` n/m, there we go [20:58]
nubbins` there were apparently only 46 magistrage judges in 1993 [20:58]
mircea_popescu nubbins` 46 ? [21:00]
mircea_popescu no fucking way ?! [21:00]
* nubbins` shrugs [21:00]
nubbins` i know, that's not even one per state [21:00]
nubbins` and new jersey had like 5 [21:00]
mircea_popescu hmmmm [21:00]
nubbins` i guess there are other types of judges besides magistrate judges [21:00]
mircea_popescu you know magistrature is relatively recent ... [21:00]
mircea_popescu well yes, district judges. [21:00]
mircea_popescu holy shit no fucking way 46 ?! [21:00]
nubbins` yep [21:01]
nubbins` http://www.fjc.gov/history/export/jb.txt [21:01]
nubbins` CSV dump [21:01]
nubbins` "Bankruptcy and Magistrate service" is the final column [21:01]
mircea_popescu The directory includes the biographies of judges presidentially appointed during good behavior who have served since 1789 on the U.S. District Courts, the U.S. Courts of Appeals, the Supreme Court of the United States, the former U.S. Circuit Courts, and the federal judiciary's courts of special jurisdiction. [21:01]
mircea_popescu it's the presidentially appointed [21:01]
mircea_popescu i thought they get appointed by the court itself [21:01]
nubbins` a ton of them got appointed by clinton in late oct 1993 [21:02]
mircea_popescu hmmm [21:02]
mircea_popescu you know you might be right even. [21:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 48 @ 0.03766228 = 1.8078 BTC [-] {5} [21:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00013013 = 0.6507 BTC [-] {3} [21:04]
nubbins` anyway, i probably precluded myself from any of that bounty by posting that info so early [21:04]
mircea_popescu why ? [21:04]
nubbins` well, i just saved someone a bunch of work [21:05]
mircea_popescu still gets allocated to you [21:05]
nubbins` o [21:05]
nubbins` anyway, fun task [21:06]
nubbins` #2 is a LOT more work [21:06]
mircea_popescu yeah. [21:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.335 = 4.005 BTC [+] [21:08]
Namworld [14:04] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00013013 = 0.6507 BTC [-] {3} [21:10]
Namworld lol [21:10]
Namworld 1 month to fall to 1/30th of price [21:11]
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mircea_popescu but what a month. [21:13]
kakobrekla !t bt labcoin [21:14]
assbot [BTCT:LABCOIN] 1D: 0.0001226 / 0.00017 / 0.0002495 (591825 shares, 101.2 BTC), 7D: 0.0001226 / 0.00024 / 0.0004 (3022640 shares, 713.3 BTC), 30D: 0.0001226 / 0.00149 / 0.003989 (16872541 shares, 25162.5 BTC) [21:14]
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mircea_popescu mod6 http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/ might interest you then [21:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.51 = 1.53 BTC [+] [21:45]
mod6 I just saw that. :) [21:51]
mod6 This thing is pretty neat, might take me some time to learn hoon tho. [21:51]
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KRS1 oh cool complimentary trilema articles [21:53]
mod6 I don't wanna get too far off course just yet. Gotta wrap up this current bitotter work and get further along with my look into cramer-shoup [21:53]
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mod6 i kinda think the idea of the urbit ship being virtual real estate. Can only be transfered 9 times before it has no value. [21:55]
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nubbins` "And then for each of these individually compile a record showing all their rulings, orders and decisions which in any way touched upon individual rights of privacy, broadly construed so as to include anything relating to the production of communications of private persons in any written form, limited to an adversarial proceeding in which the US Government, or any agency or representative thereof w [21:56]
nubbins` party, with proper case reference by number and where available link to published court proceedings" [21:56]
nubbins` ^^^ is this restricted to the period of time when they were a magistrate judge? [21:56]
benkay_ mod6 it's not a permanent thing [21:56]
mod6 Strange. Yet, kinda cool at first look here. I'll play with it a bit. [21:56]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3 = 5.2 BTC [+] [21:57]
mircea_popescu nubbins` yup [21:57]
nubbins` ok, great [21:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.23205 = 24.641 BTC [-] {3} [21:58]
mircea_popescu obviously if they become a senator it's moot [21:58]
nubbins` yeah [21:58]
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nubbins` this is going to be a very small list [21:58]
nubbins` to my surprise [21:59]
nubbins` well, wait now [21:59]
nubbins` i mean, some of these judges are still judges [21:59]
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nubbins` just not magistrate judges [21:59]
mircea_popescu hm ? [21:59]
nubbins` for example, Africk has issued privacy rulings in 2005 and 2013, but was only a magistrate judge from 1990-2002 [21:59]
mircea_popescu well as long as he still issued rulings, you wan them [22:00]
nubbins` sure [22:00]
mircea_popescu how do you establish he's only issued so in 2005 and 2013 ? [22:01]
nubbins` searched records from us gov printing office [22:04]
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nubbins` to be fair, i used the word "privacy" as a search qualifier, so i may have missed privacy-related rulings that did not use the word "privacy" [22:05]
mircea_popescu indeed. [22:05]
nubbins` but i suspect that the number of said rulings would be vanishingly small [22:05]
mircea_popescu broadly construed so as to include anything relating to the production of communications of private persons in any written for [22:05]
mircea_popescu i don't think there's any way to avoid going through his caselist [22:06]
mircea_popescu you can sort to exclude cases where govt is not a party, and maybe cases where no persons are parties, [22:06]
nubbins` yeah, that removed most of the chaff [22:06]
mircea_popescu but otherwise you kinda have to skim the complaints [22:06]
nubbins` can a court visit the issue of privacy without using the word, though? [22:07]
nubbins` i mean, they can talk all they want about communications in any written form, but unless the word "privacy" or "private" comes up, they're not really discussing privacy, are they? [22:08]
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mircea_popescu yes they are. [22:14]
mircea_popescu if Joe is ordered to produce the letter Moe sent him during discovery of Jane's divorce, [22:14]
mircea_popescu this qualifies. [22:14]
mircea_popescu arguably the part where privacy is touched upon without being specifically said so is more important than the other. [22:14]
nubbins` arguably i could exclude all such cases and still win a fat bounty if nobody produces evidence that i left out any rulings [22:16]
mircea_popescu arguably. [22:16]
nubbins` that's probably what i'm going to do, fyi [22:17]
mircea_popescu well, free market of bitcoin. [22:17]
* nubbins` nods [22:17]
mircea_popescu it's how mining works too. [22:17]
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nubbins` wait, mining works? [22:17]
nubbins` lel, &c [22:17]
mircea_popescu ;;estimate [22:17]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 280954568.202 based on data since last change | 212713646.91 based on data for last three days [22:17]
mircea_popescu holy shit!? [22:18]
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nubbins` yeah, lots of sad pandas with usb block erupters today [22:18]
nubbins` not just today, of course [22:18]
mircea_popescu lol pity the forum isn't up so i could forcefeed everyone -pr's buffett quote [22:18]
nubbins` take consolation in the fact that they're quietly worrying while hitting F5 on /r/bitcoin [22:19]
nubbins` now, if you'll excuse me, i'm told there is a cat in my bed that i must go bother [22:20]
mircea_popescu bother all the cats. [22:20]
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saulimus is there a precise time announced when btct will disable trading? [22:22]
dub does anyone give a fuck? [22:25]
KRS1 hmm [22:27]
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kakobrekla yes, a negative fuck. [22:34]
mod6 don't destroy the universe! [22:35]
kakobrekla :) [22:36]
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mircea_popescu you can't unscrew a pregnant lightbulb. [22:42]
kakobrekla 18:40.43 ( mircea_popescu ) about the ddoses : i suspect bitcoin mining will fundamentally change the way internet adressing works. [22:43]
kakobrekla doesnt p2pool solve this already? [22:43]
mircea_popescu not large enough yet i don't think, and has other problems [22:43]
mircea_popescu (does it work with mm yet ?) [22:44]
kakobrekla i dont think mm is an issue [22:44]
KRS1 thats pretty deep [22:45]
kakobrekla apparently mm already works with p2pool [22:46]
mircea_popescu a ok [22:47]
mircea_popescu then pretty cool, maybe it gets more widely used. [22:47]
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kakobrekla it will if there will be a need for it [22:47]
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Apocalyptic thats pretty deep // indeed [22:56]
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