Forum logs for 05 Oct 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu well this would be because phprekla can't phode. [00:00]
FabianB kakobrekla: maybe you could include the date in the links on the left [00:00]
mircea_popescu yeah srsly. i need my references. [00:00]
kakobrekla jsrekla will jsfix it [00:00]
ThickAsThieves make all the things clickable! [00:01]
mircea_popescu must have all the links permanent! [00:01]
ThickAsThieves and with RSS feeds [00:01]
kakobrekla we need a better logo. [00:01]
ThickAsThieves make RSS feed for every handle, etc [00:01]
mircea_popescu FabianB : i think now it'll work [00:01]
mircea_popescu ya totally needs a logo. [00:01]
mircea_popescu actually this chan needs a mascot [00:02]
FabianB mircea_popescu: yup, looks good [00:02]
mircea_popescu ever since usagi took that surgery. [00:02]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the horse loves you back. [00:02]
ThickAsThieves Assbot the Mascot? [00:02]
ThickAsThieves robotic donkey? [00:02]
ThickAsThieves a robotic wooden log? [00:03]
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skinnkavaj ThickAsThieves: Sorry to bother you but have you finished moving to bitfunder? [00:03]
skinnkavaj Neobee [00:03]
ThickAsThieves I am not the real Thickasthieves [00:04]
ThickAsThieves he doesnt hang out in IRC [00:04]
ThickAsThieves nor does he run an illegal drug market [00:04]
jcpham read: it was the six finger man! [00:05]
mircea_popescu kayzer sez me ?! [00:05]
ThickAsThieves in all seriousnesss, skinnkavaj, no is the answer [00:06]
mircea_popescu http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity [00:06]
ozbot Attacking Tor: how the NSA targets users' online anonymity | World news | theguardian.com [00:06]
mircea_popescu this is the most retarded write-up of security i saw this year. [00:06]
mircea_popescu half way into it the poor undergrad camwho doing the write-up is just... mentally exhausted. [00:06]
skinnkavaj ThickAsThieves: Now im really confused.. [00:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1343 @ 0.000226 = 0.3035 BTC [-] [00:07]
mircea_popescu wait, it was written by bruce schneider. what the ef. [00:07]
pankkake skinnkavaj: I always read your nickname as skinnyvaj' [00:07]
skinnkavaj pankkake: Is that someone i should know? [00:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.35999999 = 1.08 BTC [-] {2} [00:09]
mircea_popescu lol cute. [00:09]
mircea_popescu skinnkavaj vaj would be vagina in that context. [00:09]
skinnkavaj A well screw you then im going home [00:09]
mircea_popescu lmao [00:09]
pankkake I often misread new words (like kakobrekla, I read it as something else for weeks) [00:10]
pankkake I don't remember which, but there's one I was misreading for years [00:11]
kakobrekla FabianB / mircea_popescu ; should be fixed [00:11]
kakobrekla yeah dont worry its not really a word [00:11]
mircea_popescu it's a scam. [00:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [-] [00:13]
FabianB mircea_popescu: you might want to grep (if your blog allows that) for more old log.bitcoin-assets links [00:13]
mircea_popescu yes good idea. [00:14]
FabianB i think i saw at least one more, don't remember which article though [00:14]
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mircea_popescu there's exactly 3 [00:16]
ThickAsThieves "Recently published news articles discuss the intelligence community's interest in tools used to facilitate anonymous online communication. The articles accurately point out that the intelligence community seeks to understand how these tools work and the kind of information being concealed. [00:17]
ThickAsThieves However, the articles fail to make clear that the intelligence community's interest in online anonymity services and other online communication and networking tools is based on the undeniable fact that these are the tools our adversaries use to communicate and coordinate attacks against the United States and our allies." [00:17]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#313531 hm [00:17]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:17]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla can you grep the log for to halp me get these dates ? [00:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.36 = 2.88 BTC [+] [00:18]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#332651 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#318803 [00:18]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:18]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2013#318803 [00:19]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [+] [00:20]
kakobrekla moar? [00:20]
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mircea_popescu just those 3 [00:21]
kakobrekla a [00:21]
kakobrekla theres 3 [00:21]
kakobrekla didnt see [00:22]
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kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2013#332651 [00:22]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:23]
jurov okay, coinbr is fixed [00:23]
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kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2013#313531 [00:23]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:23]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.04 = 4.16 BTC [+] [00:24]
mircea_popescu tyvm [00:24]
dexX7 https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/31 + https://picostocks.com/businessplan/31 X_X ... it's scam, right? [00:25]
mircea_popescu so today FabianB has found my missing 2btc and has fixed my blog. [00:25]
ozbot PicoStocks.com [00:25]
FabianB hehe [00:25]
mircea_popescu dexX7 you're like the third guy today. [00:25]
dexX7 meh [00:26]
ThickAsThieves does fabian get a cherry truck or such now? [00:27]
dexX7 http://i.imgur.com/ZMf6Lvt.png ... k it is fake [00:27]
pankkake so how many btcs did they steal? [00:27]
ThickAsThieves kinda amazing theyd so blatantly show they are a scam [00:28]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [00:28]
ThickAsThieves :) [00:28]
FabianB ThickAsThieves: i guess i get working links when i read articles on dates after they were written :) [00:29]
mircea_popescu i think the cherry truck is for doing god's work by arguing with some retard on btctalk over 50 pages [00:30]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2013#329164 [00:33]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:33]
mircea_popescu that shit's ironic. [00:33]
mircea_popescu wtf happened there [00:33]
kakobrekla lmao [00:33]
kakobrekla no clue [00:33]
jurov you got censored, i spotted it quickly [00:33]
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jurov you then put it into blog [00:33]
mircea_popescu this is conspiraci [00:34]
pankkake log.b-a censors? [00:34]
kakobrekla some strange encoding? i know it works for arabis chars [00:34]
mircea_popescu nah it was english [00:34]
pankkake oh right it breaks on some encodings from what i've seen [00:34]
kakobrekla hm [00:34]
mircea_popescu apparently long strings kill the bot ? [00:34]
jurov yes, it was that [00:34]
kakobrekla it was what [00:34]
pankkake well proper English punctuation can be unicode characters too [00:34]
jurov several ~400 chars long lines [00:34]
kakobrekla i dont think lenght is the problem [00:34]
mircea_popescu there were > 500 characters per line in that quote [00:34]
kakobrekla irc has limit to it [00:34]
kakobrekla set by the network [00:35]
mircea_popescu let mwe find it in my log [00:35]
jurov i have seen them here...but assbot did not [00:35]
mircea_popescu The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except “that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement.” ( [00:35]
kakobrekla The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. ( [00:35]
mircea_popescu holes! [00:36]
mircea_popescu this is SCAM logging. [00:36]
jurov “ redacted [00:36]
pankkake http://i.imgur.com/VmQB7yn.png weird characters [00:36]
kakobrekla lol [00:36]
kakobrekla in my text too? [00:36]
jborkl so Cointerra is 3 miles from me, huh [00:36]
pankkake yes [00:36]
mircea_popescu jborkl going by ? [00:36]
mircea_popescu … ? [00:37]
jborkl I know exaclty the building they say they are in [00:37]
kakobrekla The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. ( [00:37]
kakobrekla hm [00:37]
jborkl charles schwab office in that building [00:37]
jborkl I will go by and see [00:37]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla it's the triple dot continuation marks [00:37]
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kakobrekla ah [00:37]
kakobrekla well dont say that anymore! [00:38]
mircea_popescu jborkl going by ? look at line right after that [00:38]
mircea_popescu it came out empty [00:38]
mircea_popescu hehe mk. [00:38]
pankkake those? … [00:38]
asciilifeform http://blog.jim.com/economics/technological-failure-of-the-silk-road-system.html (or: a few words from Cpt. Obvious) [00:38]
ozbot Technological failure of the silk road system « Jim’s Blog [00:38]
mircea_popescu … kakobrekla is a clit sausage. [00:38]
mircea_popescu i guess now we have an off the record symbol. [00:38]
mircea_popescu which is not necessarily that bad. [00:39]
kakobrekla lolz [00:39]
pankkake asciilifeform: or simply, make your website use openpgpjs. don't get why no one does [00:39]
asciilifeform pankkake: js-anything as a security component damns your soul. [00:39]
mircea_popescu is that actually a proper implementation ? [00:39]
mircea_popescu ^ [00:39]
pankkake it seems to be [00:39]
asciilifeform the site (or mitm version) can always serve up a diddled js. [00:40]
jborkl hmm, that is a apt complex, not a office [00:40]
jurov Æώ [00:40]
pankkake hm, true [00:40]
kakobrekla ? hm [00:40]
pankkake but at least they woulndn't get any message before compromission [00:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform who the hell is "jim" [00:40]
asciilifeform nobody. [00:40]
asciilifeform just a random find. [00:40]
kakobrekla i cant reproduce that triple dot in this retarded client [00:42]
jurov just have a tor bundle include gpg proper [00:42]
kakobrekla but, i can just take out of db [00:42]
kakobrekla so fuck dat. [00:42]
mircea_popescu http://blog.jim.com/wp-comments-post.php > Error 404 - Not Found [00:42]
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kakobrekla dont u version me pankkake [00:42]
skinnkavaj Fuck u doing pankkake [00:43]
kakobrekla scriptkiddie [00:43]
kakobrekla :D [00:43]
jborkl the phone number cointerra has does not work [00:43]
pankkake lol at your version [00:43]
pankkake jborkl: SCAM!!! [00:43]
jurov https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-October/021770.html [00:44]
ozbot [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle: PGP encryption built-in? [00:44]
kakobrekla whose, mine? [00:44]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla U+2026 ? [00:44]
kakobrekla i use heavily modified script kiddie script [00:44]
kakobrekla also broken [00:44]
kakobrekla no i has some strange encoding here [00:44]
mircea_popescu well it's horizontal ellipsis. anyway. [00:45]
jurov lol " [00:45]
jurov I don't consider Firefox the 'best of Web Browsing' or GPG the 'best [00:45]
jurov of encryption'. They are only the crap tools we're stuck with for [00:45]
jurov now. [00:45]
jurov " [00:45]
kakobrekla my irc client is legacy [00:45]
mircea_popescu well it's good to see the interwebs have not run out of retards. [00:45]
jurov hence ended the inquiry to add gpg to tor bundle. [00:45]
asciilifeform a basic and inescapable problem in something like 'pgp in browser' is that the user has no way to tell if he's actually using what he thinks he's using. [00:46]
mircea_popescu http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?page=1&order=dateup < ok this shit's pretty lol [00:46]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets bash [00:46]
pankkake yeah, you'd need a browser extension… [00:46]
pankkake I've tried webpg, and it sucks [00:46]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is true. [00:46]
jurov yes but they were talking about some browser add-on [00:46]
pankkake does not handle multiple identities, and slows down the browser after a few hours [00:46]
mircea_popescu ideally what you need is an airgapped machine and a pistol reader. [00:46]
asciilifeform and this is completely aside from the 'toilet in the kitchen' problems you get. [00:46]
jborkl just talked to a cointerra guy, he wont let me come by [00:47]
mircea_popescu why niot ? [00:47]
jborkl he said they dont have anything to show me right now [00:48]
mircea_popescu ... [00:48]
ThickAsThieves scams [00:48]
mircea_popescu well... pick up two highschool chicks and a liter bottle of vodka and go crash their office. [00:48]
jborkl weel, I figured out it was a apt complex [00:49]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, bbl. [00:49]
kakobrekla he is going to trash the office [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00087512 = 1.9253 BTC [+] {2} [00:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.00000001 BTC [-] [01:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 21 @ 0.006763 = 0.142 BTC [+] [01:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00901347 = 1.0816 BTC [-] {5} [01:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00900102 = 0.369 BTC [-] [01:27]
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jurov kakobrekla: assbot should do *tumbleweed* when no activity [01:28]
jurov since her source code needs to be maintained in constant state of disorder [01:29]
jurov !t m s.mpoe [01:30]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00086486 / 0.00090941 / 0.00093695 (101603 shares, 92.40 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00086624 / 0.00094023 (478116 shares, 414.17 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00089768 / 0.00094307 (6407070 shares, 5,751.55 BTC) [01:30]
jurov !t m s.nsa [01:30]
assbot Are you sure you have no tobacco? [01:30]
jurov gotcha :) [01:30]
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jurov that reminds me to add it to coinbr [01:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00900102 = 0.7291 BTC [-] [01:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] [01:31]
pankkake you have to add the new securities manually? [01:31]
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jurov yes. there's no reliable way otherwise [01:32]
jurov i even had S.DICE shown in stat output till today [01:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 425 @ 0.00087645 = 0.3725 BTC [+] [01:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 211 @ 0.00900102 = 1.8992 BTC [-] [01:39]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] [01:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00900102 = 0.126 BTC [-] [01:51]
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mircea_popescu http://www.euronews.com/2013/10/04/students-strip-naked-to-protest-over-strict-new-dress-code-at-kaposvar-universit/ [01:54]
ozbot Students strip in protest over dress code at Kaposvar University in Hungary | euronews, [01:54]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] [02:15]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [08:28]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading [08:28]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Sun Sep 29 03:06:59 2013 [08:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5425 @ 0.00087694 = 4.7574 BTC [+] [08:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [+] [08:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.075 = 16.125 BTC [+] [09:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.099 = 17.584 BTC [+] [09:24]
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mircea_popescu http://ij.org/miforf [09:33]
ozbot The Institute for Justice [09:33]
mircea_popescu "Can the government use civil forfeiture to take your money when you have done nothing wrong—and then pocket the proceeds? The IRS thinks so." [09:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 29 @ 0.13990689 = 4.0573 BTC [-] {5} [09:34]
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pankkake this institude for justice seems to do pretty cool stuff [09:38]
pankkake ;;bc,stats [09:41]
gribble Current Blocks: 261801 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 278 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 14 hours, 7 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 185413506.454 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.58978 [09:41]
kakobrekla shouldnt you be sleeping [09:42]
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pankkake are you the nsa or what? :) [09:43]
* kakobrekla notes; avoids questions, suspicious activity [09:43]
pankkake hehe [09:44]
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pankkake well, headaches :/ [09:45]
kakobrekla oh? [09:45]
kakobrekla no remedies for that? [09:45]
pankkake many doctors seen, and for now, nothing concrete [09:46]
pankkake hence my time spent insulting people on forums [09:46]
pankkake instead of being productive [09:46]
kakobrekla i do that too, but without the headache [09:46]
pankkake :) [09:46]
kakobrekla im cycling again [09:47]
kakobrekla each day im up a bit longer [09:47]
kakobrekla not that id want to. [09:48]
pankkake oh, I did try the 28 hour day for a while [09:48]
pankkake it was good the first weeks [09:48]
kakobrekla i blame the lack of buttsecks [09:48]
pankkake but even my minimal social life was affected [09:49]
pankkake always blame the lack of buttsex [09:49]
kakobrekla social life? [09:49]
kakobrekla ;;google define:social life [09:49]
gribble Social Life Magazine: ; Social Life | Psychology Today: ; Social life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [09:49]
pankkake :) [09:49]
pankkake I mean you have to think if you're going to be sleeping at some hour [09:50]
pankkake it's not like ok I can be there that day [09:50]
pankkake it's also very weird when you get out and the sun isn't where it should be [09:50]
kakobrekla lucky for me i hate people enough so i dont miss the socialization [09:50]
kakobrekla oh im used to that [09:51]
kakobrekla getting up at sundown [09:51]
pankkake well, I thought I was - but I gave up after a month I think [09:51]
kakobrekla i have been doing this for years [09:51]
kakobrekla dunno what the long term effect is [09:52]
mircea_popescu lol [09:52]
kakobrekla death if nothing else [09:52]
kakobrekla whats funny there [09:52]
pankkake I think doing it like 26h week (and cycle over 2 weeks) would be idle [09:52]
pankkake 26h day* [09:52]
mircea_popescu pankkake have you tried the old ice water remedy ? [09:52]
pankkake ideal* [09:52]
kakobrekla meh i cant plan my sleep [09:52]
pankkake 28h was a bit tiring a times [09:53]
kakobrekla except the lack of it [09:53]
pankkake I wanted to go to sleep but forced me no to [09:53]
kakobrekla i have done 72hrs couple of times [09:53]
pankkake when I was younger, I did too [09:54]
kakobrekla it gets fun after 48 or so [09:54]
pankkake usually masturbating [09:54]
kakobrekla i really mean fun [09:54]
kakobrekla everything gets hilarious [09:54]
pankkake yeah i get "drunk" [09:54]
kakobrekla almost [09:55]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/why-you-need-bitcoin-simply-put/ [09:55]
ozbot Why you need Bitcoin, simply put. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [09:55]
kakobrekla where are the tits [09:56]
mircea_popescu there shall be no further tits [09:56]
kakobrekla whats this, concentration camp? [09:57]
mircea_popescu i used to buy them on the silk road. now that the feds have disrupted silkroad, my supply of tits is gone. [09:57]
pankkake let's create titcoin. has 42 million titcoins, and you can only spend them by two [09:58]
mircea_popescu must press tits against screen to sign tx [09:58]
kakobrekla make that a titocoin and maybe someone will go for it [09:59]
pankkake hm, you can probably have a tit fingerprint and convert it to a private key [09:59]
kakobrekla but that goes for anything [09:59]
kakobrekla if diablo were here hed say "peniscoin!" [10:00]
pankkake I still have the best altcoin idea ever, the bernankoin [10:02]
pankkake rename mining to printing [10:02]
pankkake and block reward = difficulty [10:02]
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kakobrekla no must be PoS [10:02]
kakobrekla instead of pow [10:02]
kakobrekla and print yourself a billion [10:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0008771 = 6.4028 BTC [+] {2} [10:03]
pankkake I'm already too lazy to actually create it, so understanding the PoS dynamics… probably not :p [10:04]
kakobrekla what you dont need to do anything [10:05]
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kakobrekla just follow the 'make your own bitcoin fork' manual [10:05]
kakobrekla and make a logo [10:05]
kakobrekla done [10:05]
pankkake yeah, I think I bookmarked it for the occasion [10:05]
pankkake there's also some Krugman pics I could use [10:06]
pankkake http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/04/Paul-Krugman-with-Cat.jpg [10:06]
pankkake http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/egotistical-giraffe-nsa-tor-document [10:09]
pankkake egotistical giraffe, egostistical goat [10:10]
dexX7 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity << i recommend this one, very rich of information [10:14]
ozbot Attacking Tor: how the NSA targets users' online anonymity | World news | theguardian.com [10:14]
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mircea_popescu dexX7 it's really very badly written, nonsensical goop. [10:30]
mircea_popescu i can't imagine schneider actually penned that. he must have sent sometyhing that got "edited for clarity" [10:30]
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dexX7 are you saying "the content is inconsistent" or "the presentation is just bad"? [10:33]
mircea_popescu i am saying that numerous concepts are employed in a way which belies unfamiliarity with the field, and the general structuring of the narrative is such that you suspect the author does not have a birds eye view of the topic. [10:35]
mircea_popescu neither of those goes with the alleged author, unless he was very very drunk at the time. [10:35]
mircea_popescu but anyway, i guess now i have to go into details as otherwise this is all useless nonsense. brb. [10:36]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading [11:36]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell dexx7 http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/ [11:49]
gribble The operation succeeded. [11:49]
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VanCleef is adobe a scam? [12:05]
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mircea_popescu it's just evil. [12:12]
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b0n1 http://www.google.de/trends/explore?q=bitcoin#q=bitcoin%2C%20Silk%20Road&date=today%201-m&cmpt=q [12:42]
ozbot Google Trends [12:42]
b0n1 oh yes! :) [12:42]
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phish .d [13:47]
ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 231 blocks | Estimated Change: 25.6612% in 1d 4h 35m 46s [13:47]
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mircea_popescu "Alexander further detailed that the metadata is collected under Executive Order 12333 from 2009." [14:01]
mircea_popescu fuckwit. 12333 was signed in like the 80s [14:01]
mircea_popescu we're in the mid 13k's by now. [14:01]
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mod6 ya 12333 would have been during reagan [14:07]
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mod6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12333 [14:07]
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mircea_popescu something like that yeah [14:10]
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mircea_popescu lol [15:28]
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mircea_popescu so basically the forum has moved to reddit ? [15:28]
mircea_popescu great, [15:28]
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mike_c ;;bc,24hprc [19:01]
gribble 130.00 [19:01]
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mircea_popescu http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown [19:13]
ozbot Feds Try to Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown [19:13]
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thestringpuller It's sad US citizens are too lazy to start militias and start chaos. [19:31]
rulother-tab- +1 [19:32]
mircea_popescu i was thinking, the correct thing to do for a state governor is to simply pass a bill ordering all federal employees arested [19:39]
mircea_popescu take them to a camp somewherwe [19:39]
mircea_popescu and that's that. [19:39]
mircea_popescu for instance the arizona people could do it, after the entire "close grand canion" bs. [19:40]
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Kleeck__ "It is on par with the government's ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away from it. " [19:54]
Kleeck__ lol [19:54]
mircea_popescu basically obama's horde is trying to show to congress that they can do absolutely anything and the sheeple will just take it. [19:57]
mircea_popescu that's the message, "you are alone". [19:58]
mircea_popescu "we can grab any power we want. fuck you." [19:58]
Duffer1 that makes no sense [19:58]
Duffer1 he didn't shut down anything, congress did [19:58]
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mircea_popescu you're very confused. [19:58]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly : nosuchlabs.com [19:59]
mircea_popescu all that's still needed is a logo and away we go!!1eleven [19:59]
Kleeck__ Interesting. [20:01]
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asciilifeform today's crapola: http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/gchq-report-on-mullenize-program-to-stain-anonymous-electronic-traffic/502/ [20:05]
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asciilifeform http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/nsa-research-report-on-the-tor-encryption-program/501/ [20:07]
ozbot NSA report on the Tor encrypted network - The Washington Post [20:07]
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asciilifeform looks like at least one spook knows 'LaTex' [20:08]
mircea_popescu apps ? lol [20:08]
thestringpuller what does nsa even do? [20:09]
thestringpuller s.nsa [20:09]
thestringpuller lol [20:09]
thestringpuller pretend to be the nsa? [20:09]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: burns $$$$ [20:09]
asciilifeform on a big far pyre [20:09]
asciilifeform *fat [20:09]
thestringpuller nice [20:09]
thestringpuller sign me up! [20:10]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller WHEREAS, the individuals named have recently launched and intend to operate for the foreseeable future an unregistered corporation by the name "No Such lAbs" (NSA) dedicated to the production and marketing of a series of strong, fully integrated cryptography products, ensuring customers absolute immunity from third party attempts to access their data or communications ; [20:11]
mircea_popescu other than that, it ipos [20:11]
mircea_popescu http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/10/04/not_even_the_nsa_can_crack_the_state_departments_online_anonymity_tool [20:11]
mircea_popescu look at that shit. [20:11]
ozbot Not Even the NSA Can Crack the State Dept's Favorite Anonymous Network | The Cable [20:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i think he was thinking about the other one [20:11]
mircea_popescu basically every contact in the "press" is being herded to defend this holy grail of "tor is actually safe" [20:12]
asciilifeform to be fair, there is a long tradition here in the usa of first arming some fellows and then sending armies to bump them off [20:14]
asciilifeform so it is even possible that one set of bureaucrats commissioned TOR and another, 'anti-' TOR [20:14]
mircea_popescu it's possible, but not likely. what happened is that one set of bureaucrats made tor at great expense, and another set used it in a disaster-of-commons way [20:15]
mircea_popescu now the former are trying to fix their broken china. [20:15]
asciilifeform sort of like the Soviet scenario of KGB vs GRU, or Hitler's 'two in a box' management style of abwehr vs gestapo. [20:15]
mircea_popescu sort of like the bureaucratic scenario. [20:18]
mircea_popescu this is why big governments can't have nice things, irrespective of what uyou might have heard. [20:18]
asciilifeform they occasionally pull off nice things, but solely by crowning a viceroy (e.g. Korolev) who has absolute grasp over some fiefdom. [20:19]
mircea_popescu so then "by becoming small government" [20:19]
mircea_popescu why yes, yes they do. that's the fucking argument. [20:19]
asciilifeform yeah [20:19]
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asciilifeform http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/talk-by-roger-dingledine-of-torprojectorg-at-the-nsa/2013/10/04/cdd15234-2d1d-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html [20:26]
ozbot Talk by Roger Dingledine of Torproject.org at the NSA - The Washington Post [20:26]
asciilifeform "(U) 5. Oppressed Alice, who lives in a repressive country (no or limited free speech) and wants to talk about things contrary to her governments positions. The countries he used as examples were France, Germany (prohibitions on fascist writings?) and the US (not sure what he meant here?)." [20:26]
mircea_popescu dingledine ? [20:26]
mircea_popescu seriously ? [20:27]
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mircea_popescu he needs to meet my friend Dinah. [20:29]
thestringpuller in other news, mircea_popescu can officially get medical marijuana [20:31]
mircea_popescu wait wut ? [20:31]
thestringpuller http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ro&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digi24.ro%2FStiri%2FDigi24%2FActualitate%2FSanatate%2FMedicament%2BTratamentul%2Bcu%2Bmarijuana%2Ba%2Bdevenit%2Blegal%2Bin%2BRomania [20:31]
thestringpuller wow that link is awful [20:32]
mircea_popescu i don't know pot ever wasn't legal. [20:32]
mircea_popescu but anyway, for everyone's lolfactor : ion tiriac is a rich romanian banker guy. his son is a retard. [20:33]
thestringpuller YAY [20:33]
mircea_popescu coupla years back he was caught with ~3kgs of uncut cocaine in his car, and had his license suspended [20:33]
mircea_popescu i guess it's a good thing he didn't try to sell it on silkroad. [20:33]
mircea_popescu it'd have taken all of six months and landed him in jail for 800 years on account of it being bought by a dozen different undercover agents working for five or six different agencies. [20:34]
thestringpuller is that the reporter? [20:34]
thestringpuller ion tiriac? [20:34]
mircea_popescu no ? [20:34]
thestringpuller where did ion tiriac come up then? [20:35]
mircea_popescu well, it's a little anecdote i just recounted. [20:35]
thestringpuller ah [20:35]
asciilifeform pg. 16: "In our time in the lab, we found that running an nmap on a node that isoffering a hidden service will turn up the port that the hidden service is using to deal with incoming connections. It can then be directly connected to, outside of Tor." [20:36]
asciilifeform these fellows ever heard of iptables? [20:36]
mircea_popescu i don't think this problem is avoidable [20:37]
asciilifeform if you configure the damn thing right, the only external port is TOR's standard one [20:37]
asciilifeform every 'onion' luser knows this [20:38]
asciilifeform except, apparently, the monkey [20:38]
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mircea_popescu jesuis check this shit out [20:38]
mircea_popescu http://www.azd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/documents/top%2010%20local%20rule%20violations.pdf [20:38]
mircea_popescu that loads up a document G:/shared/azdwebpage/blabla [20:39]
mircea_popescu basically, a box running windows 95 ? [20:39]
mircea_popescu holy shit, it's a .wpd [20:39]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform what i meant was, as long as you have a port open, it's open for nmap too. [20:44]
mircea_popescu in retrospect is not what you meant. [20:44]
asciilifeform even the lowest luser knows, i imagine, that you set up the service (e.g. http) on a local port, and expose only the tor port. [20:45]
asciilifeform the fellow running the port scan will see that the machine runs tor, and that's it [20:45]
asciilifeform this isn't exactly worthless info by itself, though [20:45]
asciilifeform not that many people have tor running on a hosted box [20:46]
asciilifeform inquisitor scans the whole site, then politely asks for snapshots of the dirty disks... [20:46]
mircea_popescu right. [20:46]
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thestringpuller "I'm mircea_popescu, bitch!" lolol [20:49]
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skinnkavaj Upvote this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nsmoa/bitcointalk_hacked_thermos_offering_50_btc_reward/ [20:53]
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pankkake > thermos [20:54]
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mircea_popescu bwahaha [20:56]
mircea_popescu i can't believe the girl's thing caught. [20:56]
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asciilifeform gotta love how the spooks insist on calling keys 'cryptovariables,' so you can almost tell where the monkey plagiarized open source docs and where he actually spewed his own text [20:59]
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mircea_popescu unrelatedly, has anyone ever looked into ubuntu packaging ? [21:01]
mircea_popescu ubuntu-standard depends on... wget. [21:02]
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asciilifeform what of it [21:05]
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pankkake to download the .debs, you need a downloader [21:08]
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mircea_popescu sure. but there's no need to make that a dependency. [21:08]
mircea_popescu it will run just fine w/o wget, and w/o avahi, and without jesus fucking christ. [21:09]
mircea_popescu ubuntu is windows. [21:09]
pankkake even other distros do require wget [21:09]
pankkake ubuntu-standard is windows, certainly, but wget isn't a good example [21:09]
mircea_popescu no, imo ity's the best example. [21:10]
asciilifeform never seen a linux box (save cut-down ones i prepared for various purposes) w/out wget or curl on it. [21:10]
mircea_popescu there is no sane reason to require wget for -standard. [21:10]
mircea_popescu you don't have wget, you can't use internet. [21:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform still not a reason to require it. [21:10]
asciilifeform i think the updater on various 'friendly' package systems demands wget/curl/the like [21:11]
asciilifeform for fetching whatever. [21:11]
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mircea_popescu that's another thing [21:11]
mircea_popescu there's no reason for -standard to depend on the updater being present. [21:11]
mircea_popescu people go fucking crazy over "having a car requires you having insurance" [21:11]
asciilifeform wait till you see how many packages pull in xorg for no particular reason. [21:12]
mircea_popescu then go around putting retarded dependencies in software. [21:12]
mircea_popescu the ridiculous thing is, they have the concept of "recommended". not like it's either depend or nothing. [21:12]
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thestringpuller wget is so laaaame though [21:16]
thestringpuller it can't grok links at all [21:16]
thestringpuller cURL is so much better [21:17]
thestringpuller also the ubuntu updater is based on aptitude no? why not just base something on debian instead of ubuntu? [21:18]
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Duffer1 thestringpuller how's cookies going? [21:32]
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mircea_popescu http://dukeofmegadeus.tumblr.com/image/63187035555 [21:40]
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b0n1 http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor-stinks-nsa-presentation-document [23:08]
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mircea_popescu http://nypost.com/2013/08/05/in-the-ho-tel-biz-lauren-silvermans-husband-owns-panama-prostitute-palace/ [23:54]
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