Forum logs for 05 Oct 2013
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu | well this would be because phprekla can't phode. | [00:00] |
FabianB | kakobrekla: maybe you could include the date in the links on the left | [00:00] |
mircea_popescu | yeah srsly. i need my references. | [00:00] |
kakobrekla | jsrekla will jsfix it | [00:00] |
ThickAsThieves | make all the things clickable! | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | must have all the links permanent! | [00:01] |
ThickAsThieves | and with RSS feeds | [00:01] |
kakobrekla | we need a better logo. | [00:01] |
ThickAsThieves | make RSS feed for every handle, etc | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB : i think now it'll work | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | ya totally needs a logo. | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | actually this chan needs a mascot | [00:02] |
FabianB | mircea_popescu: yup, looks good | [00:02] |
mircea_popescu | ever since usagi took that surgery. | [00:02] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves the horse loves you back. | [00:02] |
ThickAsThieves | Assbot the Mascot? | [00:02] |
ThickAsThieves | robotic donkey? | [00:02] |
ThickAsThieves | a robotic wooden log? | [00:03] |
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skinnkavaj | ThickAsThieves: Sorry to bother you but have you finished moving to bitfunder? | [00:03] |
skinnkavaj | Neobee | [00:03] |
ThickAsThieves | I am not the real Thickasthieves | [00:04] |
ThickAsThieves | he doesnt hang out in IRC | [00:04] |
ThickAsThieves | nor does he run an illegal drug market | [00:04] |
jcpham | read: it was the six finger man! | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | kayzer sez me ?! | [00:05] |
ThickAsThieves | in all seriousnesss, skinnkavaj, no is the answer | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity | [00:06] |
ozbot | Attacking Tor: how the NSA targets users' online anonymity | World news | theguardian.com | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | this is the most retarded write-up of security i saw this year. | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | half way into it the poor undergrad camwho doing the write-up is just... mentally exhausted. | [00:06] |
skinnkavaj | ThickAsThieves: Now im really confused.. | [00:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1343 @ 0.000226 = 0.3035 BTC [-] | [00:07] |
mircea_popescu | wait, it was written by bruce schneider. what the ef. | [00:07] |
pankkake | skinnkavaj: I always read your nickname as skinnyvaj' | [00:07] |
skinnkavaj | pankkake: Is that someone i should know? | [00:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.35999999 = 1.08 BTC [-] {2} | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | lol cute. | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | skinnkavaj vaj would be vagina in that context. | [00:09] |
skinnkavaj | A well screw you then im going home | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [00:09] |
pankkake | I often misread new words (like kakobrekla, I read it as something else for weeks) | [00:10] |
pankkake | I don't remember which, but there's one I was misreading for years | [00:11] |
kakobrekla | FabianB / mircea_popescu ; should be fixed | [00:11] |
kakobrekla | yeah dont worry its not really a word | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | it's a scam. | [00:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [-] | [00:13] |
FabianB | mircea_popescu: you might want to grep (if your blog allows that) for more old log.bitcoin-assets links | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | yes good idea. | [00:14] |
FabianB | i think i saw at least one more, don't remember which article though | [00:14] |
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mircea_popescu | there's exactly 3 | [00:16] |
ThickAsThieves | "Recently published news articles discuss the intelligence community's interest in tools used to facilitate anonymous online communication. The articles accurately point out that the intelligence community seeks to understand how these tools work and the kind of information being concealed. | [00:17] |
ThickAsThieves | However, the articles fail to make clear that the intelligence community's interest in online anonymity services and other online communication and networking tools is based on the undeniable fact that these are the tools our adversaries use to communicate and coordinate attacks against the United States and our allies." | [00:17] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#313531 hm | [00:17] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla can you grep the log for to halp me get these dates ? | [00:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.36 = 2.88 BTC [+] | [00:18] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#332651 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#318803 | [00:18] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [00:18] |
kakobrekla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2013#318803 | [00:19] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [00:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [+] | [00:20] |
kakobrekla | moar? | [00:20] |
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mircea_popescu | just those 3 | [00:21] |
kakobrekla | a | [00:21] |
kakobrekla | theres 3 | [00:21] |
kakobrekla | didnt see | [00:22] |
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kakobrekla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2013#332651 | [00:22] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [00:23] |
jurov | okay, coinbr is fixed | [00:23] |
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kakobrekla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2013#313531 | [00:23] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [00:23] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.04 = 4.16 BTC [+] | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | tyvm | [00:24] |
dexX7 | https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/31 + https://picostocks.com/businessplan/31 X_X ... it's scam, right? | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | so today FabianB has found my missing 2btc and has fixed my blog. | [00:25] |
ozbot | PicoStocks.com | [00:25] |
FabianB | hehe | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7 you're like the third guy today. | [00:25] |
dexX7 | meh | [00:26] |
ThickAsThieves | does fabian get a cherry truck or such now? | [00:27] |
dexX7 | http://i.imgur.com/ZMf6Lvt.png ... k it is fake | [00:27] |
pankkake | so how many btcs did they steal? | [00:27] |
ThickAsThieves | kinda amazing theyd so blatantly show they are a scam | [00:28] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [00:28] |
ThickAsThieves | :) | [00:28] |
FabianB | ThickAsThieves: i guess i get working links when i read articles on dates after they were written :) | [00:29] |
mircea_popescu | i think the cherry truck is for doing god's work by arguing with some retard on btctalk over 50 pages | [00:30] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2013#329164 | [00:33] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | that shit's ironic. | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | wtf happened there | [00:33] |
kakobrekla | lmao | [00:33] |
kakobrekla | no clue | [00:33] |
jurov | you got censored, i spotted it quickly | [00:33] |
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jurov | you then put it into blog | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | this is conspiraci | [00:34] |
pankkake | log.b-a censors? | [00:34] |
kakobrekla | some strange encoding? i know it works for arabis chars | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | nah it was english | [00:34] |
pankkake | oh right it breaks on some encodings from what i've seen | [00:34] |
kakobrekla | hm | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | apparently long strings kill the bot ? | [00:34] |
jurov | yes, it was that | [00:34] |
kakobrekla | it was what | [00:34] |
pankkake | well proper English punctuation can be unicode characters too | [00:34] |
jurov | several ~400 chars long lines | [00:34] |
kakobrekla | i dont think lenght is the problem | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | there were > 500 characters per line in that quote | [00:34] |
kakobrekla | irc has limit to it | [00:34] |
kakobrekla | set by the network | [00:35] |
mircea_popescu | let mwe find it in my log | [00:35] |
jurov | i have seen them here...but assbot did not | [00:35] |
mircea_popescu | The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except “that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement.” ( | [00:35] |
kakobrekla | The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. ( | [00:35] |
mircea_popescu | holes! | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | this is SCAM logging. | [00:36] |
jurov | redacted | [00:36] |
pankkake | http://i.imgur.com/VmQB7yn.png weird characters | [00:36] |
kakobrekla | lol | [00:36] |
kakobrekla | in my text too? | [00:36] |
jborkl | so Cointerra is 3 miles from me, huh | [00:36] |
pankkake | yes | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl going by ? | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | … ? | [00:37] |
jborkl | I know exaclty the building they say they are in | [00:37] |
kakobrekla | The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. ( | [00:37] |
kakobrekla | hm | [00:37] |
jborkl | charles schwab office in that building | [00:37] |
jborkl | I will go by and see | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla it's the triple dot continuation marks | [00:37] |
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kakobrekla | ah | [00:37] |
kakobrekla | well dont say that anymore! | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | [00:38] | |
mircea_popescu | it came out empty | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | hehe mk. | [00:38] |
pankkake | those? … | [00:38] |
asciilifeform | http://blog.jim.com/economics/technological-failure-of-the-silk-road-system.html (or: a few words from Cpt. Obvious) | [00:38] |
ozbot | Technological failure of the silk road system « Jim’s Blog | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | … kakobrekla is a clit sausage. | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | i guess now we have an off the record symbol. | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | which is not necessarily that bad. | [00:39] |
kakobrekla | lolz | [00:39] |
pankkake | asciilifeform: or simply, make your website use openpgpjs. don't get why no one does | [00:39] |
asciilifeform | pankkake: js-anything as a security component damns your soul. | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | is that actually a proper implementation ? | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | ^ | [00:39] |
pankkake | it seems to be | [00:39] |
asciilifeform | the site (or mitm version) can always serve up a diddled js. | [00:40] |
jborkl | hmm, that is a apt complex, not a office | [00:40] |
jurov | Æώ | [00:40] |
pankkake | hm, true | [00:40] |
kakobrekla | ? hm | [00:40] |
pankkake | but at least they woulndn't get any message before compromission | [00:40] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform who the hell is "jim" | [00:40] |
asciilifeform | nobody. | [00:40] |
asciilifeform | just a random find. | [00:40] |
kakobrekla | i cant reproduce that triple dot in this retarded client | [00:42] |
jurov | just have a tor bundle include gpg proper | [00:42] |
kakobrekla | but, i can just take out of db | [00:42] |
kakobrekla | so fuck dat. | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | http://blog.jim.com/wp-comments-post.php > Error 404 - Not Found | [00:42] |
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kakobrekla | dont u version me pankkake | [00:42] |
skinnkavaj | Fuck u doing pankkake | [00:43] |
kakobrekla | scriptkiddie | [00:43] |
kakobrekla | :D | [00:43] |
jborkl | the phone number cointerra has does not work | [00:43] |
pankkake | lol at your version | [00:43] |
pankkake | jborkl: SCAM!!! | [00:43] |
jurov | https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-October/021770.html | [00:44] |
ozbot | [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle: PGP encryption built-in? | [00:44] |
kakobrekla | whose, mine? | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla U+2026 ? | [00:44] |
kakobrekla | i use heavily modified script kiddie script | [00:44] |
kakobrekla | also broken | [00:44] |
kakobrekla | no i has some strange encoding here | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | well it's horizontal ellipsis. anyway. | [00:45] |
jurov | lol " | [00:45] |
jurov | I don't consider Firefox the 'best of Web Browsing' or GPG the 'best | [00:45] |
jurov | of encryption'. They are only the crap tools we're stuck with for | [00:45] |
jurov | now. | [00:45] |
jurov | " | [00:45] |
kakobrekla | my irc client is legacy | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | well it's good to see the interwebs have not run out of retards. | [00:45] |
jurov | hence ended the inquiry to add gpg to tor bundle. | [00:45] |
asciilifeform | a basic and inescapable problem in something like 'pgp in browser' is that the user has no way to tell if he's actually using what he thinks he's using. | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?page=1&order=dateup < ok this shit's pretty lol | [00:46] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets bash | [00:46] |
pankkake | yeah, you'd need a browser extension… | [00:46] |
pankkake | I've tried webpg, and it sucks | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform this is true. | [00:46] |
jurov | yes but they were talking about some browser add-on | [00:46] |
pankkake | does not handle multiple identities, and slows down the browser after a few hours | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | ideally what you need is an airgapped machine and a pistol reader. | [00:46] |
asciilifeform | and this is completely aside from the 'toilet in the kitchen' problems you get. | [00:46] |
jborkl | just talked to a cointerra guy, he wont let me come by | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | why niot ? | [00:47] |
jborkl | he said they dont have anything to show me right now | [00:48] |
mircea_popescu | ... | [00:48] |
ThickAsThieves | scams | [00:48] |
mircea_popescu | well... pick up two highschool chicks and a liter bottle of vodka and go crash their office. | [00:48] |
jborkl | weel, I figured out it was a apt complex | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of which, bbl. | [00:49] |
kakobrekla | he is going to trash the office | [00:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00087512 = 1.9253 BTC [+] {2} | [00:56] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.00000001 BTC [-] | [01:14] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 21 @ 0.006763 = 0.142 BTC [+] | [01:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00901347 = 1.0816 BTC [-] {5} | [01:22] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00900102 = 0.369 BTC [-] | [01:27] |
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jurov | kakobrekla: assbot should do *tumbleweed* when no activity | [01:28] |
jurov | since her source code needs to be maintained in constant state of disorder | [01:29] |
jurov | !t m s.mpoe | [01:30] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00086486 / 0.00090941 / 0.00093695 (101603 shares, 92.40 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00086624 / 0.00094023 (478116 shares, 414.17 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00089768 / 0.00094307 (6407070 shares, 5,751.55 BTC) | [01:30] |
jurov | !t m s.nsa | [01:30] |
assbot | Are you sure you have no tobacco? | [01:30] |
jurov | gotcha :) | [01:30] |
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jurov | that reminds me to add it to coinbr | [01:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00900102 = 0.7291 BTC [-] | [01:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] | [01:31] |
pankkake | you have to add the new securities manually? | [01:31] |
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jurov | yes. there's no reliable way otherwise | [01:32] |
jurov | i even had S.DICE shown in stat output till today | [01:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 425 @ 0.00087645 = 0.3725 BTC [+] | [01:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 211 @ 0.00900102 = 1.8992 BTC [-] | [01:39] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] | [01:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00900102 = 0.126 BTC [-] | [01:51] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.euronews.com/2013/10/04/students-strip-naked-to-protest-over-strict-new-dress-code-at-kaposvar-universit/ | [01:54] |
ozbot | Students strip in protest over dress code at Kaposvar University in Hungary | euronews, | [01:54] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] | [02:15] |
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* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [08:28] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading | [08:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5425 @ 0.00087694 = 4.7574 BTC [+] | [08:44] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [+] | [08:52] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.075 = 16.125 BTC [+] | [09:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.099 = 17.584 BTC [+] | [09:24] |
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mircea_popescu | http://ij.org/miforf | [09:33] |
ozbot | The Institute for Justice | [09:33] |
mircea_popescu | "Can the government use civil forfeiture to take your money when you have done nothing wrong—and then pocket the proceeds? The IRS thinks so." | [09:33] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 29 @ 0.13990689 = 4.0573 BTC [-] {5} | [09:34] |
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pankkake | this institude for justice seems to do pretty cool stuff | [09:38] |
pankkake | ;;bc,stats | [09:41] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 261801 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 278 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 14 hours, 7 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 185413506.454 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.58978 | [09:41] |
kakobrekla | shouldnt you be sleeping | [09:42] |
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pankkake | are you the nsa or what? :) | [09:43] |
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pankkake | hehe | [09:44] |
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pankkake | well, headaches :/ | [09:45] |
kakobrekla | oh? | [09:45] |
kakobrekla | no remedies for that? | [09:45] |
pankkake | many doctors seen, and for now, nothing concrete | [09:46] |
pankkake | hence my time spent insulting people on forums | [09:46] |
pankkake | instead of being productive | [09:46] |
kakobrekla | i do that too, but without the headache | [09:46] |
pankkake | :) | [09:46] |
kakobrekla | im cycling again | [09:47] |
kakobrekla | each day im up a bit longer | [09:47] |
kakobrekla | not that id want to. | [09:48] |
pankkake | oh, I did try the 28 hour day for a while | [09:48] |
pankkake | it was good the first weeks | [09:48] |
kakobrekla | i blame the lack of buttsecks | [09:48] |
pankkake | but even my minimal social life was affected | [09:49] |
pankkake | always blame the lack of buttsex | [09:49] |
kakobrekla | social life? | [09:49] |
kakobrekla | ;;google define:social life | [09:49] |
gribble | Social Life Magazine: |
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pankkake | :) | [09:49] |
pankkake | I mean you have to think if you're going to be sleeping at some hour | [09:50] |
pankkake | it's not like ok I can be there that day | [09:50] |
pankkake | it's also very weird when you get out and the sun isn't where it should be | [09:50] |
kakobrekla | lucky for me i hate people enough so i dont miss the socialization | [09:50] |
kakobrekla | oh im used to that | [09:51] |
kakobrekla | getting up at sundown | [09:51] |
pankkake | well, I thought I was - but I gave up after a month I think | [09:51] |
kakobrekla | i have been doing this for years | [09:51] |
kakobrekla | dunno what the long term effect is | [09:52] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [09:52] |
kakobrekla | death if nothing else | [09:52] |
kakobrekla | whats funny there | [09:52] |
pankkake | I think doing it like 26h week (and cycle over 2 weeks) would be idle | [09:52] |
pankkake | 26h day* | [09:52] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake have you tried the old ice water remedy ? | [09:52] |
pankkake | ideal* | [09:52] |
kakobrekla | meh i cant plan my sleep | [09:52] |
pankkake | 28h was a bit tiring a times | [09:53] |
kakobrekla | except the lack of it | [09:53] |
pankkake | I wanted to go to sleep but forced me no to | [09:53] |
kakobrekla | i have done 72hrs couple of times | [09:53] |
pankkake | when I was younger, I did too | [09:54] |
kakobrekla | it gets fun after 48 or so | [09:54] |
pankkake | usually masturbating | [09:54] |
kakobrekla | i really mean fun | [09:54] |
kakobrekla | everything gets hilarious | [09:54] |
pankkake | yeah i get "drunk" | [09:54] |
kakobrekla | almost | [09:55] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/why-you-need-bitcoin-simply-put/ | [09:55] |
ozbot | Why you need Bitcoin, simply put. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [09:55] |
kakobrekla | where are the tits | [09:56] |
mircea_popescu | there shall be no further tits | [09:56] |
kakobrekla | whats this, concentration camp? | [09:57] |
mircea_popescu | i used to buy them on the silk road. now that the feds have disrupted silkroad, my supply of tits is gone. | [09:57] |
pankkake | let's create titcoin. has 42 million titcoins, and you can only spend them by two | [09:58] |
mircea_popescu | must press tits against screen to sign tx | [09:58] |
kakobrekla | make that a titocoin and maybe someone will go for it | [09:59] |
pankkake | hm, you can probably have a tit fingerprint and convert it to a private key | [09:59] |
kakobrekla | but that goes for anything | [09:59] |
kakobrekla | if diablo were here hed say "peniscoin!" | [10:00] |
pankkake | I still have the best altcoin idea ever, the bernankoin | [10:02] |
pankkake | rename mining to printing | [10:02] |
pankkake | and block reward = difficulty | [10:02] |
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kakobrekla | no must be PoS | [10:02] |
kakobrekla | instead of pow | [10:02] |
kakobrekla | and print yourself a billion | [10:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0008771 = 6.4028 BTC [+] {2} | [10:03] |
pankkake | I'm already too lazy to actually create it, so understanding the PoS dynamics… probably not :p | [10:04] |
kakobrekla | what you dont need to do anything | [10:05] |
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kakobrekla | just follow the 'make your own bitcoin fork' manual | [10:05] |
kakobrekla | and make a logo | [10:05] |
kakobrekla | done | [10:05] |
pankkake | yeah, I think I bookmarked it for the occasion | [10:05] |
pankkake | there's also some Krugman pics I could use | [10:06] |
pankkake | http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/04/Paul-Krugman-with-Cat.jpg | [10:06] |
pankkake | http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/egotistical-giraffe-nsa-tor-document | [10:09] |
pankkake | egotistical giraffe, egostistical goat | [10:10] |
dexX7 | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity << i recommend this one, very rich of information | [10:14] |
ozbot | Attacking Tor: how the NSA targets users' online anonymity | World news | theguardian.com | [10:14] |
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mircea_popescu | dexX7 it's really very badly written, nonsensical goop. | [10:30] |
mircea_popescu | i can't imagine schneider actually penned that. he must have sent sometyhing that got "edited for clarity" | [10:30] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 7 @ 0.5 = 3.5 BTC [-] | [10:32] |
dexX7 | are you saying "the content is inconsistent" or "the presentation is just bad"? | [10:33] |
mircea_popescu | i am saying that numerous concepts are employed in a way which belies unfamiliarity with the field, and the general structuring of the narrative is such that you suspect the author does not have a birds eye view of the topic. | [10:35] |
mircea_popescu | neither of those goes with the alleged author, unless he was very very drunk at the time. | [10:35] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway, i guess now i have to go into details as otherwise this is all useless nonsense. brb. | [10:36] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading | [11:36] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;later tell dexx7 http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/ | [11:49] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [11:49] |
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VanCleef | is adobe a scam? | [12:05] |
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mircea_popescu | it's just evil. | [12:12] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00087248 = 3.2718 BTC [-] | [12:33] |
b0n1 | http://www.google.de/trends/explore?q=bitcoin#q=bitcoin%2C%20Silk%20Road&date=today%201-m&cmpt=q | [12:42] |
ozbot | Google Trends | [12:42] |
b0n1 | oh yes! :) | [12:42] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.021 = 2.042 BTC [-] | [12:51] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 522 @ 0.0002135 = 0.1114 BTC [-] | [13:05] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2415 @ 0.00024997 = 0.6037 BTC [+] {2} | [13:23] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.021 = 2.042 BTC [-] | [13:29] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.0499 = 0.1497 BTC [+] | [13:29] |
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phish | .d | [13:47] |
ozbot | 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 231 blocks | Estimated Change: 25.6612% in 1d 4h 35m 46s | [13:47] |
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mircea_popescu | "Alexander further detailed that the metadata is collected under Executive Order 12333 from 2009." | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | fuckwit. 12333 was signed in like the 80s | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | we're in the mid 13k's by now. | [14:01] |
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mod6 | ya 12333 would have been during reagan | [14:07] |
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mod6 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12333 | [14:07] |
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mircea_popescu | something like that yeah | [14:10] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share | [15:00] |
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ThickAsThieves | sigh | [15:12] |
ThickAsThieves | https://mcxnow.com/ | [15:12] |
ozbot | mcxNOW - Digital Currency Exchange and Payment System | [15:12] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [15:28] |
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mircea_popescu | so basically the forum has moved to reddit ? | [15:28] |
mircea_popescu | great, | [15:28] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 457 @ 0.00139973 = 0.6397 BTC [+] {4} | [15:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00026399 = 0.264 BTC [+] {2} | [16:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00026399 = 0.264 BTC [+] {2} | [16:26] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 202 @ 0.00999857 = 2.0197 BTC [+] {2} | [17:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 11 @ 0.01 = 0.11 BTC [+] {2} | [17:14] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1090 @ 0.000249 = 0.2714 BTC [-] | [17:23] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.01 = 1.2 BTC [+] | [17:30] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.07 BTC [+] | [17:59] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.00289526 = 0.6109 BTC [-] {2} | [18:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.09919998 = 27.48 BTC [+] {4} | [18:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.048 = 1.2 BTC [+] | [18:30] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.04232142 = 0.2962 BTC [-] {2} | [18:31] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.15253846 = 14.983 BTC [+] {3} | [18:36] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 827 @ 0.0104562 = 8.6473 BTC [+] {8} | [18:45] |
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mike_c | ;;bc,24hprc | [19:01] |
gribble | 130.00 | [19:01] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown | [19:13] |
ozbot | Feds Try to Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown | [19:13] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 23 @ 0.00515 = 0.1185 BTC [+] | [19:14] |
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thestringpuller | It's sad US citizens are too lazy to start militias and start chaos. | [19:31] |
rulother-tab- | +1 | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | i was thinking, the correct thing to do for a state governor is to simply pass a bill ordering all federal employees arested | [19:39] |
mircea_popescu | take them to a camp somewherwe | [19:39] |
mircea_popescu | and that's that. | [19:39] |
mircea_popescu | for instance the arizona people could do it, after the entire "close grand canion" bs. | [19:40] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.00285007 = 0.6014 BTC [-] {3} | [19:49] |
Kleeck__ | "It is on par with the government's ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away from it. " | [19:54] |
Kleeck__ | lol | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | basically obama's horde is trying to show to congress that they can do absolutely anything and the sheeple will just take it. | [19:57] |
mircea_popescu | that's the message, "you are alone". | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | "we can grab any power we want. fuck you." | [19:58] |
Duffer1 | that makes no sense | [19:58] |
Duffer1 | he didn't shut down anything, congress did | [19:58] |
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mircea_popescu | you're very confused. | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | unrelatedly : nosuchlabs.com | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | all that's still needed is a logo and away we go!!1eleven | [19:59] |
Kleeck__ | Interesting. | [20:01] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13774999 = 2.2755 BTC [-] {2} | [20:04] |
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asciilifeform | today's crapola: http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/gchq-report-on-mullenize-program-to-stain-anonymous-electronic-traffic/502/ | [20:05] |
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asciilifeform | http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/nsa-research-report-on-the-tor-encryption-program/501/ | [20:07] |
ozbot | NSA report on the Tor encrypted network - The Washington Post | [20:07] |
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asciilifeform | looks like at least one spook knows 'LaTex' | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | apps ? lol | [20:08] |
thestringpuller | what does nsa even do? | [20:09] |
thestringpuller | s.nsa | [20:09] |
thestringpuller | lol | [20:09] |
thestringpuller | pretend to be the nsa? | [20:09] |
asciilifeform | thestringpuller: burns $$$$ | [20:09] |
asciilifeform | on a big far pyre | [20:09] |
asciilifeform | *fat | [20:09] |
thestringpuller | nice | [20:09] |
thestringpuller | sign me up! | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller WHEREAS, the individuals named have recently launched and intend to operate for the foreseeable future an unregistered corporation by the name "No Such lAbs" (NSA) dedicated to the production and marketing of a series of strong, fully integrated cryptography products, ensuring customers absolute immunity from third party attempts to access their data or communications ; | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | other than that, it ipos | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/10/04/not_even_the_nsa_can_crack_the_state_departments_online_anonymity_tool | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | look at that shit. | [20:11] |
ozbot | Not Even the NSA Can Crack the State Dept's Favorite Anonymous Network | The Cable | [20:11] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: i think he was thinking about the other one | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | basically every contact in the "press" is being herded to defend this holy grail of "tor is actually safe" | [20:12] |
asciilifeform | to be fair, there is a long tradition here in the usa of first arming some fellows and then sending armies to bump them off | [20:14] |
asciilifeform | so it is even possible that one set of bureaucrats commissioned TOR and another, 'anti-' TOR | [20:14] |
mircea_popescu | it's possible, but not likely. what happened is that one set of bureaucrats made tor at great expense, and another set used it in a disaster-of-commons way | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | now the former are trying to fix their broken china. | [20:15] |
asciilifeform | sort of like the Soviet scenario of KGB vs GRU, or Hitler's 'two in a box' management style of abwehr vs gestapo. | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | sort of like the bureaucratic scenario. | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | this is why big governments can't have nice things, irrespective of what uyou might have heard. | [20:18] |
asciilifeform | they occasionally pull off nice things, but solely by crowning a viceroy (e.g. Korolev) who has absolute grasp over some fiefdom. | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | so then "by becoming small government" | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | why yes, yes they do. that's the fucking argument. | [20:19] |
asciilifeform | yeah | [20:19] |
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asciilifeform | http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/talk-by-roger-dingledine-of-torprojectorg-at-the-nsa/2013/10/04/cdd15234-2d1d-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html | [20:26] |
ozbot | Talk by Roger Dingledine of Torproject.org at the NSA - The Washington Post | [20:26] |
asciilifeform | "(U) 5. Oppressed Alice, who lives in a repressive country (no or limited free speech) and wants to talk about things contrary to her governments positions. The countries he used as examples were France, Germany (prohibitions on fascist writings?) and the US (not sure what he meant here?)." | [20:26] |
mircea_popescu | dingledine ? | [20:26] |
mircea_popescu | seriously ? | [20:27] |
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mircea_popescu | he needs to meet my friend Dinah. | [20:29] |
thestringpuller | in other news, mircea_popescu can officially get medical marijuana | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | wait wut ? | [20:31] |
thestringpuller | http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ro&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digi24.ro%2FStiri%2FDigi24%2FActualitate%2FSanatate%2FMedicament%2BTratamentul%2Bcu%2Bmarijuana%2Ba%2Bdevenit%2Blegal%2Bin%2BRomania | [20:31] |
thestringpuller | wow that link is awful | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | i don't know pot ever wasn't legal. | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway, for everyone's lolfactor : ion tiriac is a rich romanian banker guy. his son is a retard. | [20:33] |
thestringpuller | YAY | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | coupla years back he was caught with ~3kgs of uncut cocaine in his car, and had his license suspended | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | i guess it's a good thing he didn't try to sell it on silkroad. | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | it'd have taken all of six months and landed him in jail for 800 years on account of it being bought by a dozen different undercover agents working for five or six different agencies. | [20:34] |
thestringpuller | is that the reporter? | [20:34] |
thestringpuller | ion tiriac? | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | no ? | [20:34] |
thestringpuller | where did ion tiriac come up then? | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | well, it's a little anecdote i just recounted. | [20:35] |
thestringpuller | ah | [20:35] |
asciilifeform | pg. 16: "In our time in the lab, we found that running an nmap on a node that isoffering a hidden service will turn up the port that the hidden service is using to deal with incoming connections. It can then be directly connected to, outside of Tor." | [20:36] |
asciilifeform | these fellows ever heard of iptables? | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | i don't think this problem is avoidable | [20:37] |
asciilifeform | if you configure the damn thing right, the only external port is TOR's standard one | [20:37] |
asciilifeform | every 'onion' luser knows this | [20:38] |
asciilifeform | except, apparently, the monkey | [20:38] |
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mircea_popescu | jesuis check this shit out | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.azd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/documents/top%2010%20local%20rule%20violations.pdf | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | that loads up a document G:/shared/azdwebpage/blabla | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | basically, a box running windows 95 ? | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | holy shit, it's a .wpd | [20:39] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform what i meant was, as long as you have a port open, it's open for nmap too. | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | in retrospect is not what you meant. | [20:44] |
asciilifeform | even the lowest luser knows, i imagine, that you set up the service (e.g. http) on a local port, and expose only the tor port. | [20:45] |
asciilifeform | the fellow running the port scan will see that the machine runs tor, and that's it | [20:45] |
asciilifeform | this isn't exactly worthless info by itself, though | [20:45] |
asciilifeform | not that many people have tor running on a hosted box | [20:46] |
asciilifeform | inquisitor scans the whole site, then politely asks for snapshots of the dirty disks... | [20:46] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [20:46] |
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thestringpuller | "I'm mircea_popescu, bitch!" lolol | [20:49] |
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skinnkavaj | Upvote this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nsmoa/bitcointalk_hacked_thermos_offering_50_btc_reward/ | [20:53] |
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pankkake | > thermos | [20:54] |
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mircea_popescu | bwahaha | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | i can't believe the girl's thing caught. | [20:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00084566 = 1.1839 BTC [-] | [20:57] |
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asciilifeform | gotta love how the spooks insist on calling keys 'cryptovariables,' so you can almost tell where the monkey plagiarized open source docs and where he actually spewed his own text | [20:59] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13999999 = 2.28 BTC [+] | [21:01] |
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mircea_popescu | unrelatedly, has anyone ever looked into ubuntu packaging ? | [21:01] |
mircea_popescu | ubuntu-standard depends on... wget. | [21:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 152 @ 0.00126659 = 0.1925 BTC [+] | [21:02] |
asciilifeform | what of it | [21:05] |
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pankkake | to download the .debs, you need a downloader | [21:08] |
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mircea_popescu | sure. but there's no need to make that a dependency. | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | it will run just fine w/o wget, and w/o avahi, and without jesus fucking christ. | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | ubuntu is windows. | [21:09] |
pankkake | even other distros do require wget | [21:09] |
pankkake | ubuntu-standard is windows, certainly, but wget isn't a good example | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | no, imo ity's the best example. | [21:10] |
asciilifeform | never seen a linux box (save cut-down ones i prepared for various purposes) w/out wget or curl on it. | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | there is no sane reason to require wget for -standard. | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | you don't have wget, you can't use internet. | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform still not a reason to require it. | [21:10] |
asciilifeform | i think the updater on various 'friendly' package systems demands wget/curl/the like | [21:11] |
asciilifeform | for fetching whatever. | [21:11] |
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mircea_popescu | that's another thing | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | there's no reason for -standard to depend on the updater being present. | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | people go fucking crazy over "having a car requires you having insurance" | [21:11] |
asciilifeform | wait till you see how many packages pull in xorg for no particular reason. | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | then go around putting retarded dependencies in software. | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | the ridiculous thing is, they have the concept of "recommended". not like it's either depend or nothing. | [21:12] |
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thestringpuller | wget is so laaaame though | [21:16] |
thestringpuller | it can't grok links at all | [21:16] |
thestringpuller | cURL is so much better | [21:17] |
thestringpuller | also the ubuntu updater is based on aptitude no? why not just base something on debian instead of ubuntu? | [21:18] |
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Duffer1 | thestringpuller how's cookies going? | [21:32] |
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mircea_popescu | http://dukeofmegadeus.tumblr.com/image/63187035555 | [21:40] |
ozbot | Remains of Doma: Photo | [21:40] |
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mircea_popescu | http://31.media.tumblr.com/8dbe87937905e880ee4cd6369b1077ce/tumblr_mre2xmjRvT1srju7bo1_1280.jpg cc assbot | [21:45] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3300 @ 0.00024939 = 0.823 BTC [+] {2} | [21:46] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 50 @ 0.45 = 22.5 BTC [-] | [21:46] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.01089999 = 1.0355 BTC [+] | [23:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.011 = 0.374 BTC [+] | [23:05] |
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b0n1 | http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor-stinks-nsa-presentation-document | [23:08] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 850 @ 0.00120354 = 1.023 BTC [-] {6} | [23:22] |
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mircea_popescu | http://nypost.com/2013/08/05/in-the-ho-tel-biz-lauren-silvermans-husband-owns-panama-prostitute-palace/ | [23:54] |
ozbot | In the ‘ho’-tel biz: Lauren Silverman’s husband owns Panama ‘prostitute’ palace | New York | [23:54] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 26 @ 0.006212 = 0.1615 BTC [-] | [23:58] |
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