Forum logs for 06 Nov 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.50000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - [00:23]
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mircea_popescu "See also Princeton, where you will pay them more to get the degree that they will then pay you less to use for them, in no other profession is learning how to do something more valuable than actually doing it. Is that ironic? " << it's not a profession, it's a fandom. and in all fandoms, you pay them more than they pay you, that's the definition. [00:43]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - [00:52]
punkman [01:06]
assbot ... ( ) [01:06]
punkman bon dia [01:06]
mircea_popescu the moment he blurred the genitals he lost. [01:06]
punkman he didn't, some other tard did [01:08]
punkman [01:08]
assbot ... ( ) [01:08]
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punkman "plaid", lol [01:12]
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mircea_popescu inexplicably, germany needs moar refugees. [01:14]
mircea_popescu anyway, cockring and flag in asshole guy will make a great daddy i'm sure. [01:15]
punkman [01:26]
assbot - Redefining the Media - Expired File ... ( ) [01:26]
punkman fuck you [01:27]
punkman [01:27]
assbot ... ( ) [01:27]
mircea_popescu i guess. [01:29]
mircea_popescu "Well, feminism has emasculated men." Really? A girl did that to you? [01:33]
mircea_popescu ahaha tlp delivers. [01:33]
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punkman mod6: So, I'd hate to do webdevelopment or whatever, but it sure beats humping logs all day. << I'll second that [01:47]
trinque the web's not so bad. if you overcomplicate it that's your problem [01:47]
punkman it's fine when you are not working on someone else's vomit painting [01:48]
trinque now that's for sure, but I thought these were ass-paintings [01:48]
punkman I covered all three (ass, vagina, mouth) [01:49]
trinque eh I'll take your word for it, lol [01:49]
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punkman though that last one was pushing paint-filled eggs out her vag [01:49]
trinque "anti-hotlink protection" on the liveleak [01:50]
mircea_popescu l'etude punkman, peinture a l'oriffice. [01:50]
punkman heh [01:50]
mircea_popescu in unrelated not-news, ""For the past two weeks Sandberg was anywhere nothing useful is happening, and I'm going to include Facebook in that. Some cry-baby over at Jezebel was thrilled that Sandberg was featured all week on Access Hollywood, holy Christ, she thought this was a good thing. "Feminism is back in the mainstream in a big way," she wrote, I assume in between quaaludes, "the women's movement is actually movi [01:50]
mircea_popescu ng." How can you work in media and not understand media? The fact that feminism is in the mainstream means that it doesn't exist, it is no longer real, in the same way that when you hear "gun control debate" it's a lie and "fiscal cliff" is an easy to market, safe distraction from the structural problems that can never be named, here's one: for any heterogeneous population, the expansion of a "welfare class" is logi [01:50]
mircea_popescu cally inseparable from the entrenchment of an aristocracy, can't have one without the other once you get bigger than 20M, ask Bismarck. "Does he write for Time?" No. But keep this in mind every time you hear how great it is Bill Gates is curing malaria after leaving us all with Windows."" [01:50]
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mircea_popescu god damned i want this guy to write for qntra already where is he! [01:51]
punkman (the egg lady, nice tits eh) [01:52]
assbot ... ( ) [01:52]
mircea_popescu what's with all the amateur cameramen [01:52]
mircea_popescu "i saw a naked lady in the street - i have nothing to say to her but i'd like to talk to my friends ABOUT her" [01:53]
punkman [01:53]
assbot - Artist Milo Moire, naked on public transport.. ... ( ) [01:53]
mircea_popescu i honestly liked this stuff better a decade-two ago back when donna was doing it in between being hassled by police [01:56]
punkman aha [01:56]
mircea_popescu by now it's ... meh, whatevs. [01:57]
punkman which Donna btw? [01:57]
mircea_popescu donna [01:57]
mircea_popescu ugly brunette chick [01:57]
punkman the artsy cunts want to be marina abramovic but end up with "omg naked selfies" [02:04]
mircea_popescu this could perhaps be a pretty uncanny book : the future of europe, with the white harlots living naked in the street and the proper arab girls living burka'd in the house. [02:08]
punkman instant best-seller [02:09]
mircea_popescu also just a sad repackaging of extant sad masturbation fodder (that gor bs etc). [02:10]
mircea_popescu just, all the people who have the skill to pull it off have better shit to do, so the world is stuck enjoying 50 shades of grey and what's that thing games something tlp was ragging on. [02:11]
punkman example of that last point [02:23]
assbot Miley Abramovic: The Artist Came In Like A Wrecking Ball | KQED Pop | KQED Arts ... ( ) [02:23]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp [02:24]
gribble Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 235.748942, vol: 61110.57993909 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 223.652, vol: 34809.55309 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 233.525578, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 246.05, vol: 87671.40060000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 225.0, vol: 7.9728 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 243.338, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: 238.379928863 [02:24]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency eur [02:24]
gribble Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 329.324571, vol: 61109.43925441 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 336.01, vol: 569.5449 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 326.218689, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 343.6625, vol: 87668.58080000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 327.77948, vol: 19636.8924058 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 340.0, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: 336.609302555 [02:24]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [02:24]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 358.39, vol: 61109.41925441 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 34810.39773 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 358.81, vol: 150412.5896413 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 355.01, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 374.0562, vol: 87659.40510000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 355.90728, vol: 158.98769802 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 369.988, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [02:24]
BingoBoingo ;;more [02:24]
gribble 360.778356481 [02:24]
punkman ;;seen williamdunne [02:25]
gribble williamdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: But yah [02:25]
punkman anyone with a GBP account that would like to make a payment for me? [02:26]
punkman or did we run out of brits [02:26]
mircea_popescu we might've run out of brits. [02:29]
BingoBoingo Or brits ran out of us, which ever [02:30]
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mircea_popescu "If your reaction is “Marina who?” then here’s a brief introduction." << how ab out "then this article has no fucking point, nobody cares about obscure if colorful manhattan garbage girls" [02:33]
punkman interlude for log readers [02:35]
punkman "It began tamely. Someone turned her around. Someone thrust her arms into the air. Someone touched her somewhat intimately. The Neapolitan night began to heat up. In the third hour all her clothes were cut from her with razor blades. In the fourth hour the same blades began to explore her skin. Her throat was slashed so someone could suck her blood. Various minor sexual assaults were carried out on her body." [02:35]
punkman "She was so committed to the piece that she would not have resisted rape or murder. Faced with her abdication of will, with its implied collapse of human psychology, a protective group began to define itself in the audience. When a loaded gun was thrust to Marina's head and her own finger was being worked around the trigger, a fight broke out between the audience factions" [02:35]
mircea_popescu right. because this is america, and art ~= circus. [02:38]
mircea_popescu bwcause everything ~= circus. [02:38]
BingoBoingo "murica: Moar circus freaks than evar [02:42]
mircea_popescu "Dove is telling you you don't need to do anything to be beautiful, but it knows full well women must do something to themselves to feel good about themselves" << aha. and now tell me WHY THAT IS ? [02:43]
mircea_popescu why is it that boys need to do something TO the world in order to feel at ease, whereas the girls need, NEED! to have something done TO them in order to feel GOOD with ~themselves~ ? aha, mkay, it's not all about sex. there's also... [02:44]
mircea_popescu "The laws of economics and many studies of diversity tell us that if we tapped the entire pool of human resources and talent, our performance would improve." [02:45]
mircea_popescu totally. as in, get type A (wanna do things to environment) people mixed with type B (wanna have things done to themselves) people and performance will improve. just as long as you agree to drop the male-centric definition of performance (the ration of damage done to the quake map by bullets expanded) for a more... you know. jackoffian definition of performance. [02:46]
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punkman [03:04]
assbot Fraternal Order of Police to Quentin Tarantino: We've Got a Surprise Coming For You - Hollywood Reporter ... ( ) [03:04]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - [03:32]
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punkman "Bitcoin managed to get it up, but lacked the staying power of its youth and is now collapsing." [04:10]
punkman "In Chinese, 保留 means "super important register fields that aren't on the datasheet."" [04:11]
mircea_popescu lol my butt. "usg got a run for its money the likes of which it had hoped to never see. it will not survive another one in all likelyhood, which is just as well, because november promises at least a couple." [04:15]
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ben_vulpes has anyone ever used --verify-files with gpg successfully? [04:23]
punkman ben_vulpes: what you want to batch them up? [04:24]
ben_vulpes punkman: i know about --batch, but this --verify-files flag in the man pages seems to not work. at all. [04:26]
ben_vulpes fails silently, returns 0, the whole nine. [04:26]
ben_vulpes wondering if pebkac or with maintainers. [04:27]
mircea_popescu i never used it. [04:28]
ben_vulpes go, `mkdir /tmp/badsigs/; touch /tmp/badsigs/{1,2,3}.sig; gpg --verify-files /tmp/badsigs/*` [04:28]
punkman ben_vulpes: "--multifile --verify may not be used with detached signatures. " [04:28]
mircea_popescu in general, the path of "usable" in gpg is kind-of narrow. [04:29]
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ben_vulpes thank you punkman [04:29]
ben_vulpes --batch --verify it is then, shitgnomes. [04:30]
punkman I don't think that would work [04:31]
mircea_popescu "The Irish hate our order, our civilization, our enterprising industry, our pure religion. This wild, reckless, indolent, uncertain and superstitious race have no sympathy with the English character. Their ideal of human felicity is an alternation of clannish broils and coarse idolatry. Their history describes an unbroken circle of bigotry and blood." [04:35]
mircea_popescu quoth a jew discussing teh celts. [04:35]
ben_vulpes right you are, punkman. [04:37]
punkman coarse idolatry because catholics? [04:41]
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mircea_popescu perhaps. [04:45]
mircea_popescu but i suspect more because, peasants. [04:45]
BingoBoingo Potato niggers [04:50]
BingoBoingo I believe is the technical term [04:51]
punkman heh [04:51]
punkman << could also mean less money and freedom to move to the congo, spending 10% on rent instead of 90%? [05:00]
assbot Logged on 05-11-2015 23:20:40; ascii_field: to me 'web dev' means 'work 17y.o. does' and is exactly equivalent to 'you are worth your weight in pork' [05:00]
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punkman and what use is non-webdev job if starving? [05:03]
* BingoBoingo just accepts ascii enjoys the ghetto [05:04]
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mircea_popescu the prison is in the mind. [05:32]
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BingoBoingo lol [05:41]
assbot Fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Experience Week of Extreme Price Volatility | Qntra ... ( ) [05:41]
deedbot- [Trilema] Filth - [05:49]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - [08:16]
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assbot CIA, Saudis To Give "Select" Syrian Militants Weapons Capable Of Downing Commercial Airliners | Zero Hedge ... ( ) [08:21]
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punkman "In order to make sure no one ends up blowing a 747 out of the sky, Washington will “retrofit” the weapons with “special” software that makes sure they can only be used in certain areas. " [08:22]
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fluffypony unhackable of course [08:24]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - BTC to reach $1000 or more in 2015 - [08:58]
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shinohai +1 to BashCo [09:16]
assbot BashCo comments on Adam Back says there is vote manipulation happening to his posts by bought and stolen reddit accounts. ... ( ) [09:16]
punkman [09:16]
assbot ProtonMail coughs up $6000 to stop DDoS attack, DDoS carries on anyway | ZDNet ... ( ) [09:16]
shinohai lolz! [09:16]
punkman (in bitcoin) [09:17]
shinohai That feeb advice to pay youe attackers sure paid off! [09:17]
shinohai *your [09:17]
punkman [09:20]
assbot Support the ProtonMail Defense Fund by Andy Yen - GoFundMe ... ( ) [09:20]
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shinohai ^ maybe I'll make that, good to be prepared for all contigencies [09:21]
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shinohai <<< Yuo, JC is cool: [09:31]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 01:06:40; mircea_popescu: in other news, johnny cash is fucking great. [09:31]
assbot ... ( ) [09:31]
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shinohai <<< dat picture "Now what? we have all your potato, burn yurt, and rape dottir." [09:38]
assbot Teenager Jailed for Selling €4 Million Worth of Drugs on the Dark Net ... ( ) [09:38]
* jurov is blown to realize the full scope of "this" [09:48]
assbot Logged on 05-11-2015 22:00:59; mircea_popescu: Thing 1. We're trying to reduce bitcoind to a form where it's actually worth cutting trees to print it ; [09:48]
jurov and all the stuff below [09:49]
* kakobrekla suspekts there will be more Things before there are less Things [09:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00053751 = 4.9451 BTC [+] [09:56]
shinohai ;;later tell mod6 After nearly 2 weeks downtime I'm back up and attempting sync. [10:03]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:03]
mod6 cool! [10:10]
mod6 v054-TEST2? [10:10]
shinohai yup, first time I got it back online since hdd barf [10:13]
mod6 awesome, let us know how she goes. [10:15]
jurov << it was "fine" just because bad input that would trip up gets() was thought a mistake of the operator [10:16]
assbot Logged on 05-11-2015 23:05:37; mircea_popescu: c worked in the 70s just fine, also. [10:16]
jurov which is imo dubious way to "keep the herd out" [10:17]
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shinohai mod6: have you had any sucess with bsd yet ? [10:19]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.43979419 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - [12:44]
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jurov ;;calc 1/0.00351465 [12:57]
gribble 284.523352254 [12:57]
jurov davout: x.eur bot pls [12:58]
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jurov ANNOUNCE to CoinBr users: MPEx started rejecting new orders without clear reason, if you get an error, wait a minute and retry. [13:05]
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jurov also, this happened since wednesday to several users, but I got no complaint :( [13:18]
jurov "business as usual", perhaps... [13:20]
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* shinohai is irked that ranks higher .. [13:30]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 6.50000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - [13:38]
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jurov shinohai i have abandoned any hopes coinbr would be mass thing [13:56]
jurov so, don't mind that [13:57]
shinohai I like the site, just have no idea what I'm doing if I opened an account. [13:57]
jurov only consumer thing that'd be doable would be trading of CFDs on mpex issues, or other boiler stuff [13:58]
jurov and that's completely different than coinbr [13:58]
punkman jurov: perhaps some more high-touch service could work [14:08]
jurov punkman what's that? [14:09]
punkman jurov: in regards to brokerage, I got no idea, but otherwise "denoting or relating to a business characterized by a very close relationship with its customers or clients." [14:11]
jurov i could have closer relationship with some of you. but then it would be homo. [14:12]
jurov ;) [14:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11303 @ 0.00053367 = 6.0321 BTC [-] {2} [14:14]
trinque !b 4 [14:14]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [14:14]
shinohai LOL [14:19]
shinohai I need a crypto FA I guess, like that dish I pay to manage my bills for me. [14:20]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly, i keep taking these dumps roughly in the shape of horse penis [14:20]
mircea_popescu maybe my colon's trying to tell me something. [14:20]
kakobrekla snake like and soft ? [14:20]
mircea_popescu sort-of soft. [14:21]
kakobrekla more fiber ? [14:21]
mircea_popescu maybe closer relationships ? [14:21]
kakobrekla less alcohol ? [14:21]
shinohai of the equine kind? [14:21]
mircea_popescu i don't even drink that much. [14:21]
mircea_popescu well, not in russian terms at any rate. [14:21]
kakobrekla last drink i had, hmm, prolly in romania. [14:22]
mircea_popescu lol [14:22]
mircea_popescu culture shock, largest i ever encountered : 17 yo me in london, goes into pub orders a drink. they bring him... im not even sure what it was, a thimbleful. [14:22]
mircea_popescu i was like.... what the shit, is this like with wine, you brought me a little to sniff it ?! [14:22]
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mircea_popescu in romania opf the 90s, a drink = 100cc. you could get a half if you were sick or something, but you'd have to specify like you specify nonhot at mexican restaurant. five times. [14:23]
mircea_popescu english idiots, 20cc ? wtf ? not even worth lifting. [14:23]
punkman the "standard drink" of 20ml [14:23]
mircea_popescu pfff. [14:24]
mircea_popescu that's a standard in lab rat studies maybe. [14:24]
mircea_popescu then came part 2, when the kids i was staying with were "omfg you went into a pub ordered a drink ?!?!?!?!" [14:25]
mircea_popescu "yea... ?" [14:25]
mircea_popescu "we have to wailt till 21!!!" [14:25]
mircea_popescu "..." [14:25]
punkman wasn't UK at 18? [14:25]
mircea_popescu was it ? [14:25]
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punkman as I remember it [14:26]
mircea_popescu aha apparently. [14:26]
mircea_popescu "an exception being the UK, which has a minimum legal age of five for supervised consumption in private places" [14:26]
mircea_popescu check out the brits being sensible ?! [14:27]
punkman not bad [14:27]
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mircea_popescu ahahaha the idiocy of these people. seriously, the excuse for selling weapons to terrorists is that "a) they're not the terrorists but the terrorist's Italian cousin ; b) we disabled the checkbox anyway" ? [14:31]
mircea_popescu someone needs to sell the mexican cartles the same things. o wait... they did. [14:31]
mircea_popescu +1 to BashCo <---> [14:35]
assbot BashCo comments on Adam Back says there is vote manipulation happening to his posts by bought and stolen reddit accounts. ... ( ) [14:35]
assbot Spamming reddit, an "experiment". on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [14:35]
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mircea_popescu the plan is the plan. the execution is not at the option of the horde. go reddit moar. [14:37]
mircea_popescu jurov aha. monstrous. but what can you do ? i've been trying to "manage" the issue / pretend like it's not an issue but got efficiently (and righly) uprooted at every step. [14:38]
mircea_popescu at least we ended up with a proper definition of scope, truthful if scary. [14:38]
mircea_popescu now all we need are the sort of men who aren't liable to get scared. [14:38]
mircea_popescu * kakobrekla suspekts there will be more Things before there are less Things <<< i am of the hope that we're done with things and will be a proliferation of subthings. because fuck me if i'm going all the way into microbiology to fix computing. [14:39]
kakobrekla lol [14:39]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [14:43]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: it will soon be my 8th year of 'fix computing' [14:43]
ascii_field must say, it is moar phun now, with phriends. [14:44]
punkman "el ir derecho acorta las distancias, y tambien la vida." [14:44]
mircea_popescu yeah alfie, the risk is that you lose pace. as in, guy who's been sitting in a fox hole for all summer, when a scout regiment finally shows up on the hillside goes all rambo on the opposition. [14:44]
mircea_popescu sit put an' take it steady. [14:44]
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mircea_popescu /msg chanserv OP rename #bitcoin-assets #bitcoin-fix-computers [14:47]
kakobrekla -and-the-world [14:50]
mircea_popescu which is imo dubious way to "keep the herd out" << the secret we're not ready for is that all ways to keep the herd out are dubious ways to keep the herd out. [14:52]
mircea_popescu this goes right into the other discussion : by and large, the role of management is to lie to engineering, because if confronted nakedly, the TRUTH of reality is this head-explody vacuousness. so survivable representations have to be created, and they are better if created professionally - because in their absence the brain will create them anyway, and they'll have all the value and efficiency of something a 2 yo repti [14:53]
mircea_popescu le came up with extemporaneously. [14:53]
mircea_popescu hence "scientific paradigms", ie, "don't look at magnetism". [14:53]
mircea_popescu that's the MAIN thing every single course book etc on physics says. and it is INSANE. [14:53]
mircea_popescu yet here we are. [14:53]
* ascii_field sourly mumbles something about unified theories [14:54]
mircea_popescu the clear sign that it's not time yet is the juvenile idiotic look of the attempts to unified theories. [14:55]
ascii_field iirc majorana's was spiffy [14:55]
mircea_popescu do you know which is the most advanced one ? ask a 50something stupid woman from the midwest. "oh, it's all energy and people are different". that's the best there is. [14:55]
mircea_popescu pfff. [14:55]
ascii_field btw latest word is that majorana is prolly in mircea_popescu's graveyard [14:56]
mircea_popescu o ? [14:57]
ascii_field ;;google ettore majorana argentina [14:58]
gribble Ettore Majorana: The Mystery Might Be Solved - Science 2.0: ; The Physicist Who Vanished: The Strange Fate of Ettore Majorana ...: ; Ettore Majorana - Wikipedia, the free (1 more message) [14:58]
ascii_field ^ of interest to aficionados only [14:58]
mircea_popescu i think you still gotta be somewhat rich to make chacarrita [14:58]
ascii_field then in some unmarked field. [14:58]
ascii_field che-style. [14:58]
punkman phun-fact: if you want to get cremated in greece, they ship you to bulgaria [14:59]
ascii_field punkman: how come? [14:59]
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punkman ascii_field: no place that does cremation, despite endless plans. [15:01]
ascii_field needs moar germans. [15:01]
mircea_popescu might be too warm for germans. [15:04]
mircea_popescu ironically, the greeks invented cremation didn't they. [15:05]
punkman definitely too warm, they turn bright pink the moment they step off the plane [15:05]
mircea_popescu lol [15:05]
mircea_popescu "look at all these german cunts" ? [15:05]
mircea_popescu "The ad's association to therapy here was probably not planned but it was inevitable, just as Mantegna selecting a psychiatrist and not an engineer or a cook or a stripper as the mark in House Of Games was inevitable. It is the only system of rules based on self-deception, it encourages the illusion of "self" separate from behavior. And as long as psychiatry uncritically elevates identity over behavior, it makes it- [15:06]
mircea_popescu - not the patients, it-- an easy mark for con men with their own agenda: SSI, the justice system, gun control, schools, whatever. "It's called a confidence game. Why, because you give me your confidence? No: because I give you mine." Take a minute, think it through." [15:06]
mircea_popescu jesus check out tlp getting shit. it doesn't seem to help him, but those were older articles. [15:07]
mircea_popescu how does the justice system con psychiatry to its own ends ? NOT by asking psychiatrists to buy into court proceedings. by pretending in court proceedings to highly esteem their opinions. [15:08]
mircea_popescu "you now have a responsibility ot the people who trust you : to this and that they want you to do". [15:08]
mircea_popescu "how about as a precondition to anything they abandon their self ?" "OMG WHAT ARE YOU A PSYCHOPATH THIS IS DOMESTIC ABUSE BLABLABLA". [15:09]
mircea_popescu riight. [15:09]
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mircea_popescu jurov : i know. working on it, but it's not a trivial problem sadly. [15:17]
mircea_popescu ftr, mpex will issue "Insufficient funds for this request." errors for all sorts of problems, including some that have nothing to do with the user. [15:20]
mircea_popescu i get that this is unhelpful at best, but a) making specific error messages is not trivial, and b) the alternative denomination would be something like "generic error message" which whatever. [15:21]
mircea_popescu the sad truth is that the requirements of safety and concurrency run into problems of time. there's a reason bitcoin blocks are 10 minutes long, and i fear i'm going to end up having to fundamentally redo the whole shebang. [15:23]
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* jurov expects mircea_popescu will end up with colored coins :D [15:40]
mircea_popescu lol [15:40]
mircea_popescu i would about 100x rather use a deedbot-based system. and i don't think something like that is usable. [15:40]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [15:41]
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ascii_field colored coins >> [15:41]
assbot ... ( ) [15:41]
shinohai trades as S.NGR [15:42]
mircea_popescu (kinda shameful how we omitted the entire deedbot and btcalpha infrastructure from the things, becuase hey, fuck trinque and mike_c we got the stuff made so we no longer need it made so we can forget about it right ? [15:42]
* mircea_popescu pays respect to the people who make it so he doesn't have to remember things.) [15:42]
ascii_field 'if it works, it's not AI' [15:42]
mircea_popescu re the recent alcoa/aluminum discussion, but also a broader industry and futurology discussion : aluminum is now so cheap (ie, china has got SUCH a solid handle on it forever) that home furnishing shops here have started to offer, alongside pots in silverstone and teflon, pure, plain aluminum. marketed as such, too, "puro alumino". [15:46]
mircea_popescu the catch being of course that the options are now "pay ~1k or ~100 pesos for a pot". [15:46]
mircea_popescu no need to guess that once this option became available, the other two disbecame available "en interior". [15:47]
mircea_popescu i have no fucking idea how they do this, either. maybe they discovered cold fusion and are keeping it quiet. maybe they're burning tibetans for heat. fuckall knows, but there they sit. [15:49]
ascii_field hey most abundant metal on planet 3 [15:49]
ascii_field all you need is mains current [15:50]
mircea_popescu no it's not. nickel. [15:50]
ascii_field Al. [15:50]
mircea_popescu and the mains current is the discussion. [15:50]
mircea_popescu you mean in crust ? [15:50]
ascii_field crust. [15:50]
ascii_field where we live. [15:50]
mircea_popescu a ok. [15:51]
ascii_field cheap hydro in cn. [15:51]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't put it past them. [15:51]
mircea_popescu anyway even in crust i suspect mg might be higher. [15:51]
mircea_popescu no, looky, you have it : silicon 28%, aluminum 8.2%, iron 5.6%, calcium 4.2%, sodium 2.5%, magnesium 2.4%, potassium, 2.0%, and titanium 0.61%. [15:52]
mircea_popescu "Intelligent people, like racists, are fluent in describing themselves in opposition to what they are not, but ask them to define themselves by what they are, tell you what they do believe in, and they're lost. They have opinions on issues, sure, but ask for an overarching ideology and their face botoxes. Overarching ideology? Only people with manifestos have ideologies, not having an ideology is the whole point of [15:55]
mircea_popescu being independent, the only thing they deal in is "facts" or "reality", and gun to head if they believe in anything it's "science." Not physics or chemistry, but evolution. You know, whatever ideologues hate." [15:55]
ascii_field << prepare to l0l to death [15:56]
assbot Hillary Clinton: Presidents Shouldn't Have To Disclose Their Criminal Histories ... ( ) [15:57]
mircea_popescu lmao! [15:57]
ascii_field '“Earlier today I announced that as president I will take steps to ‘ban the box,’ so former presidents won’t have to declare their criminal history at the very start of the hiring process,” Clinton told the assembled crowd. She did not correct herself.' [15:57]
mircea_popescu what is "ban the box" supposed to be ? [15:58]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: in usa, it is traditional for folks showing up for a job opening to be asked whether they have been tried/convicted [15:59]
ascii_field this typically takes the form of a paper form with 'boxes' to 'tick' [15:59]
mircea_popescu heh [15:59]
ascii_field initially they take applicant's word of honour, but sometimes check public record [15:59]
mircea_popescu do people mostly check yes ? [16:00]
ascii_field no idea [16:00]
mircea_popescu "you haven't even been to prison ? and you call yourself an american ? get the fuck out of my fucking office, loser." [16:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58570 @ 0.00053396 = 31.274 BTC [+] {3} [16:01]
ascii_field at one point, it was fashionable to check credit agencies instead [16:01]
ascii_field but then it was banned in many states (including md, where i happen to live) [16:01]
mircea_popescu because blacks ? [16:01]
ascii_field possibly [16:02]
mircea_popescu i suppose the alternatively counter-cultural reaction would be to write in "no, and i'm not black, either" [16:02]
mircea_popescu "i prefer the term jewish-african". [16:02]
mircea_popescu o wait, the jews don't agree they're in africa, was it ? only egypt is. jewlandia is in... well it's almost practically europe right ? [16:03]
mircea_popescu lol meanwhile @tlp, "I'm starting to wonder if the reason it is always pretty white girls who get kidnapped is that the media is the one kidnapping them." [16:05]
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mircea_popescu bwahahaha, ok : ""But that book was written in 1908. Based on what I've seen on Downton Abbey, things were a lot different then." [16:15]
mircea_popescu Well, yes, obviously, there had just been a massive leap forward in technology and industrialization, a booming economy fueling a wealth gap, temporarily course corrected by a financial panic "precipitated" by the failure of two overspeculating brokerage houses. There were also, simultaneously, great advances in progressive causes like worker's rights and food quality, all on the background of decreasing importance of [16:15]
mircea_popescu religion among educated whites in favor of science. Not physics or chemistry, but evolution. Tabloids were incomprehensibly popular, partisan media the norm. A loosening of conventional morality manifested as bored promiscuity, female bisexuality, and a flood of new porn the likes of which never existed before. [16:15]
mircea_popescu "That does sound different. And awesome. What did their Millennial kids inherit, what did they experience over their adult lives, say 1929-1945?" [16:15]
mircea_popescu I totally don't know, Boardwalk Empire only goes up to 1924 and Mad Men starts 1960." [16:15]
mircea_popescu let's, for the sake of exercise, suppose that in fact this is literally true, and so therefore sometime in the next decade the us signs an alliance treaty with russia only to try and invade the next year, and after they duke it out for a coupla years the chinese intervene and give everyone penis cages, like so : [16:18]
assbot ... ( ) [16:18]
mircea_popescu now suppose cca 2026 some twerps come to persuade you to go take minsk. and you quote this line of the log to them, and they go "huh" becaue hey, log is too difficult and what's a gpg ? [16:18]
mircea_popescu so in 2027 they come for like 4-5 different similar reasons, with the same bs lines. and you quote the same log, and they go the same huh. [16:18]
mircea_popescu and by 2028 they come twice a day, and you... what ? you do what, link the log, and on and on ? [16:19]
mircea_popescu eventually they shoot you because you're an asshole. [16:19]
mircea_popescu everyone [smart, white, rich, whatevs] likes to think of intelligence as a force. perhaps it is. [16:19]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile, the insistent, unyielding, disinterested in ANYTHING, eternally repeating the same inept shit behaviour of stupidity is certainly a force. that force is called will. [16:19]
mircea_popescu which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up. [16:20]
mircea_popescu most people can't do that, obviously, which is why most people are most people. [16:20]
mircea_popescu which is also why inteligence is not a force. not anymore than make-up is a force. [16:20]
mircea_popescu the erect cock, as an incarnation of will, is the one and only driver of action. which is why attempts to legislate inaction are stuck pretending "rape" exists. unless everyone's flaccid, the supremacy of will over everything is too hard a sell. [16:21]
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ascii_field << iirc it turned out that kurt gödel was pretty good at this [16:25]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 19:19:07; mircea_popescu: which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up. [16:25]
mircea_popescu i can explain what scams are to wilful idiots until i fall over, it's not unlike trying to prevent storms by lubricating the water. [16:25]
mircea_popescu has jack shit to do. [16:25]
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ascii_field << talking to inanimate objects is a misapplication of intelligence. it isn't magic, just a kind of instrument. [16:26]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 19:19:07; mircea_popescu: which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up. [16:26]
mircea_popescu ascii_field there are two kinds of three year olds. all three year olds sooner or later threaten their parents with holding their breath. all parents laugh at this, as it's a physiological impossibility : if you do any sort of a good job you necessarily pass out, and once you pass out autosomatic control restarts breathing. the two kinds of kids are : the ones that are dissuaded by this ; and the ones that are now. [16:27]
mircea_popescu not* [16:27]
ascii_field aha i recall mircea_popescu's article [16:27]
ascii_field 'anal children' or what was it [16:27]
mircea_popescu right. [16:27]
ascii_field now the one puzzle imho is why this mutation isn't fatal [16:28]
ascii_field what keeps the kid from fighting with a garbage truck [16:28]
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shinohai <<< I thought I remembered somewhere in the logs a conversation you had with someone who asked what a Wagram was. [16:28]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 19:14:16; mircea_popescu: I totally don't know, Boardwalk Empire only goes up to 1924 and Mad Men starts 1960." [16:28]
mircea_popescu at about age 5 i wanted to hunt a cow. [16:28]
mircea_popescu shinohai it's a quote tho [16:28]
shinohai ah [16:28]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: there is a sov joke about this! [16:29]
mircea_popescu ascii_field and at about the same age, i wanted to fight a lamb! headbutting ftw [16:29]
mircea_popescu i think i must have recounted the story. [16:29]
ascii_field two drunken louts went to hunt boar. one wanders over to a neighbouring 'number' (hunt sub-lot) and says 'there are many moar boar here' [16:29]
ascii_field so they move there. [16:29]
ascii_field shoot boar, after boar, drink moar vodka [16:30]
ascii_field eventually pass out [16:30]
mircea_popescu moar boar lol [16:30]
ascii_field wake up in drunk tank, minus their guns, and policeman tiredly says, [16:30]
ascii_field 'why did you go to the pig farm, why' [16:30]
mircea_popescu lol [16:30]
mircea_popescu anyway, the chief problem with self esteem, and it is indeed a major problem, is that coping strategies develop and are tested as the name says : through coping. will is a fabulous thing, which serves approximately the same role as beauty in teenaged females : now you don't gotta work at anything, because lalaland. and so you don't. and so you suck at everything ELSE. and you're fucked. the problem with self esteem is [16:32]
mircea_popescu that if you don't despise yourself and your own achievements, you'll never get anywhere. but not too much! because you also won't get anywhere! etc. [16:32]
mircea_popescu then people wanna take drugs, as if juddling all this shit in the vain, vague hope that it's evolutionarized to balance isn't hard enough, [16:32]
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ascii_field wunderwaffen [16:33]
ascii_field what folks secretly want is to discover the dope that opponent does not yet have. [16:33]
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mircea_popescu how'd that work ? [16:34]
mircea_popescu "imagine no baldness. there'd be no stopping them, a nation of supermen" ? [16:34]
ascii_field nah it'd be something more like 'no cowardice' [16:34]
ascii_field it wouldn't astonish me to learn that 'will' is chemically goosable [16:34]
ascii_field just like cock erectitude [16:35]
mircea_popescu yeah, because banal patristics 11 centuries old are too hard to read. "without [the possibility of] sin - no salvation" [16:35]
mircea_popescu do you take viagra ascii_field ? [16:35]
ascii_field must confess that i do not [16:35]
ascii_field nor have sampled it [16:35]
mircea_popescu well, why not ? [16:35]
mircea_popescu are you the sort of republican central time backwards orc that refuses science ? [16:35]
ascii_field sausage works fine by itself ? [16:36]
mircea_popescu what, as god made it ? [16:36]
ascii_field aha [16:36]
ascii_field but if it did not, i'd consider it ? [16:36]
mircea_popescu why dress then ? skin not work fine by self ? [16:36]
ascii_field nope [16:36]
ascii_field esp. not with acids. [16:36]
ascii_field there are times when cock is dressed, even [16:36]
ascii_field i think mircea_popescu also believes in this [16:36]
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mircea_popescu i am not arguing from my pov, but from the contrarian pov. [16:37]
mircea_popescu so : why do you go by car ? legs don't work ? [16:37]
ascii_field all 'dresses' are engineering tradeoffs [16:37]
ascii_field i happen to like some moar, others - less [16:37]
ascii_field matter of taste and ev calc [16:38]
mircea_popescu for all you know "legs work fine but not fine enough" just like penis works fine but not fine enough. [16:38]
ascii_field yes. ergo dope. i am not a principled opponent of dope [16:38]
mircea_popescu but you don't take penis dope. [16:38]
mircea_popescu you do take leg and would at least consider wakefulness dope. but not penis dope. [16:38]
mircea_popescu is penis more identity than walking or sleeping ? [16:38]
ascii_field i'd consider it if i had reason to think 'this needs to be more like an iron mechanism' [16:39]
mircea_popescu but you consider this of your own sleep! [16:40]
ascii_field aha. [16:40]
mircea_popescu what gives ? [16:40]
ascii_field i wouldn't want to fuck with sleep either if i didn't have to stand up at a post at x o'clock [16:40]
mircea_popescu could it be that your girl is actually a MUCH NICER partner (for sex) than you are for yourself (in your own head, doing things, like sleeping) [16:40]
ascii_field it is constraints from external things that lead people to want to turn their body into a reliable mechanism [16:40]
mircea_popescu mno. it is INTERNALIZED constraints. [16:41]
ascii_field anything could be. could be that i turn up a crate of penis dope and then end up restructuring whole personal economic life around getting moar. [16:41]
ascii_field could be. [16:41]
mircea_popescu which is why teaching slavegirls to orgasm on command is important. the internalised sexuality is a good and useful proxy for a great many other things they need. [16:42]
ascii_field as it is, i'm trying to navigate towards fewer 'dopes' (in the very general sense, far outside of 'things you must eat') rather than more. [16:42]
mircea_popescu makes sense dunnit. [16:43]
ascii_field re: sleep, i have a ~26 hr circadian and this isn't fixable [16:44]
ascii_field (afaik) [16:44]
ascii_field we know how to stretch a man's legs to make him taller than mircea_popescu, but not this [16:45]
mircea_popescu question is why would we bother. [16:45]
ascii_field which? legs ? [16:46]
ascii_field there is, iirc, a clinic in ru that does it. booked for years in advance. [16:46]
ascii_field u.s. folks travel illegally to get in. [16:46]
ascii_field < [16:48]
assbot Logged on 02-02-2015 06:58:18; asciilifeform: but being tall, which someone CAN NOT get, <<<< ahahha. soviet science winz again. had a process for -actually- growing taller. [16:48]
mircea_popescu im not even sure leg elongation is this. [16:48]
ascii_field thisy enough. [16:48]
* ascii_field has not tried, cannot recommend or disrecommend [16:49]
mircea_popescu maybe for women. [16:49]
trinque seems the exact definition of slavery, going even to the lengths of damaging oneself if it is ordered either by master or superego [16:50]
ascii_field trinque: anyone who's ever worked for a living has already done this. [16:50]
trinque sure, I've had to get up at 6am to commute before [16:50]
mircea_popescu trinque education is self-damage. [16:51]
ascii_field i.e. killed himself a little bit to profit some schmuck [16:51]
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trinque mircea_popescu: certainly is; I'm not opposed to the notion, but stating it [16:51]
mircea_popescu you have to understand ontogenesis is a two step process. first, a blob develops.then, controlled apoptosis, a process so fundamental cells have signalling baked in for it (but not for hunger, not for pain etc) makes the spaces between what will be your fingers. [16:52]
ascii_field design space shrinkage [16:52]
ascii_field (in re man-made things) [16:52]
mircea_popescu and filogenesis replicates ontogenesis, or vice-versa. first, the woman spits out a blob, then of the blob collection the men kill some, [16:52]
mircea_popescu all life works in a certain way for the reason that it's cheapest [16:52]
ascii_field even man-made things work this way [16:53]
mircea_popescu and the thread re "what is the meaning of fractal" controls here, [16:53]
ascii_field (i.e. most notions die in your head, others - on the desk, the rest - in factory, etc) [16:53]
mircea_popescu tho i doubt many in the audience have the actual, proper mathematical understanding to grasp the MEANING of formalisms. [16:53]
ascii_field it is not so hard [16:54]
mircea_popescu ascii_field you ever seen maid in sweden ? [16:54]
ascii_field nein [16:54]
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mircea_popescu you should. very nice softcore/sexploitation movie, epic natural d's. but the story is more important. [16:55]
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mircea_popescu girl goes to visit her slut sister, is fucked, gets some trappings of womanhood (dress) [16:55]
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mircea_popescu comes back to her still girly friend, who asks her "omygerd you mean you wore this ? and men saw you ? BUT HOW ???" [16:55]
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mircea_popescu and newly woman responds smiling that there's nothing to it. [16:56]
mircea_popescu "it's not that hard" [16:56]
ascii_field logical. [16:56]
mircea_popescu which makes it a good movie ; which hollywood can't apparently do. [16:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00053174 = 10.2094 BTC [-] {2} [16:56]
ascii_field if we ever get genuine psychology, it will be interesting to learn whether there was any substance to the old experiments concerning will. [16:57]
ascii_field where it had the appearance of behaving like a muscle [16:57]
ascii_field complete with fatigue and training [16:57]
mircea_popescu anyway, merely the contemplation of the plain if never discussed (shouldn't this be discussed in school ? you think ?) that cells do not actually have signalling for hunger built in, so the entire insulin system is left guesing, with all the attendant problems of insulin resistence etc. they didn't think this was important enough. apoptosis, yes. this, no. not fundamental enough, didn't make the cut. [16:58]
mircea_popescu should be informative for a lifetime. [16:58]
mircea_popescu "zero tolerance policy" ? really ? [16:58]
mircea_popescu it certainly can be trained. [16:58]
mircea_popescu and the channel yet again tricks me into revealing even more of the mysterious evil from the tower depths. oy vey. [16:59]
ascii_field and probably 'steroided.' [16:59]
mircea_popescu i do not believe so. [16:59]
ascii_field i have no reason to suppose either yes or no [16:59]
ascii_field but it would not surprise me if the system responsible is simple enough for some realistic dope. [17:00]
ascii_field it is prolly something 'reptilian' [17:00]
ascii_field (in the sense of 'hind' brains) [17:00]
ascii_field and yes, there will be a cost [17:00]
ascii_field just like taking phenylcyclidine costs. [17:00]
ascii_field (go throw a motorbike! but tear your muscles to shreds) [17:01]
mircea_popescu mno. it is a complex behaviour. [17:01]
ascii_field so is wakefulness [17:01]
ascii_field question is whether it has a 'valve'. [17:01]
* mircea_popescu suspects it is a reimplementation of ancient stuff on new hardware. [17:01]
mircea_popescu but then again i lack the tools to find out. [17:01]
ascii_field and yes, it is possible that a man given 'will dope' will just immediately eat his pistol. [17:02]
ascii_field because why not [17:02]
mircea_popescu in unrelated news, "Worse, they proudly announce their lack of ideology by branding themselves as Independents-- capital I, a thing, a demo. He willingly lessens his independence to become part of a group. [17:02]
mircea_popescu The "independent" demo actually has all the textbook characteristics of a group most susceptible to propaganda, more correctly "pre-propaganda", and by textbook I mean literally Propaganda. [17:02]
mircea_popescu They consider themselves leaderless. They can have representatives, they can have "evangelists" but they have to believe that their conclusions are all their own, through individual reflection and objective consideration. Interestingly, and on purpose, they believe their brains can handle such an analysis, any analysis. This isn't arrogance. They are told, by universities and the media, that their mind is prepared t [17:02]
mircea_popescu o do this heavy lifting as long as they are given just the right facts, filtered from the "noise." "Where can we get the right facts, in a world of liars?" Good question, maybe the news?" [17:02]
shinohai [17:03]
assbot ... ( ) [17:03]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: are you an aficionado (or the reverse) of m. minsky's 'society of mind' thing ? [17:03]
mircea_popescu re tlp's entire "universities don't produce producers, they produce consumers". there's some very specific requirements for "consumership" and they're not the obvious "oh bad people" bla bla. [17:03]
mircea_popescu this notion that one's head is enough, is fundamental to it. [17:03]
ascii_field (where brain has subsystems) [17:03]
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mircea_popescu my own brain functions a lot like a forum anyway. [17:04]
ascii_field aha so then yes [17:04]
ascii_field somebody (forget who) called it 'nanoeconomics' [17:04]
* trinque meditated for hours once and when he stopped chattering to himself about a narrative, there was left something that made me think for a long time about will, and what this observer was that was left sitting there [17:04]
trinque it would necessarily be a very difficult thing to say anything about [17:05]
ascii_field anyway there is a thing in there that says 'i dun wanna, i'll stay in bed' [17:05]
mircea_popescu i suspect it's the normal/natural state. people with overrepressive habits (ie, bad childhood) end up blind to their own mind, but... [17:05]
jurov mhm.. at the age children try to self-suffocate and mircea went to engage a lamb... i learned to plant false memories in myself. It was very scary. [17:05]
ascii_field if you had a dope that shuts it up and staples its mouth, [17:05]
ascii_field you got yourself a 'will dope'. [17:05]
mircea_popescu simple example : if i get a stomach upset, i can identify the culprit through the simple process of ... "shut the fuck up a mintuer and listen". [17:05]
mircea_popescu obviously you know what it was. [17:05]
mircea_popescu but the "Shut up a second" and especially "listen" is not ... convenient for many folks. [17:06]
ascii_field ^ [17:06]
mircea_popescu jurov like how ? [17:06]
jurov in several cases i found myself arguing with everyone else about things that did/did not happen [17:06]
mircea_popescu how do you ascertain the truth of this ? [17:07]
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jurov later i learned to keep a reminder "this may not necessarily be true" [17:07]
mircea_popescu jurov dja know joke with brothel parrot ? [17:08]
jurov don't remember [17:08]
mircea_popescu hm, can' find it in logs, either. [17:09]
mircea_popescu well, let me recount the hungarian parrot joke. so : a middle aged housefrau has always wanted, ever since little girl, aparrot. so she saves and saves, [17:10]
mircea_popescu and one day sees in window of pet shop a beautiful white specimen, and the price. which, shockingly, is not only much less than what a parrot costs, but also within her savings! [17:10]
mircea_popescu so she goes in, and asks what's wrong the parrot, explains to the shopkeep that she's been saving and so and so. [17:10]
mircea_popescu "nothing really, just this : it's the parrot of a deceased brothel madam. spent all his prior life in brothel, has very saucy conversation" [17:11]
mircea_popescu "that's all ?!" [17:11]
mircea_popescu "yes. and we sell it at a discount wirth this caveat, we won't take it back. it's already been returned by a dozen people. perfectly healthy parrot, fine specimen, but -" [17:11]
mircea_popescu so the woman buys it, and takes it to her house. [17:11]
mircea_popescu once she lifts the cover off the cage, the parrot takes one look around, one look at her, after which [17:12]
mircea_popescu "new house! new madam!" [17:12]
mircea_popescu the woman's daughters start showing up from school, and the parrot is delighted [17:12]
mircea_popescu "new! house! new madam! new harlots!" [17:12]
mircea_popescu they laugh their ass off at the new toy, and towards tghe evening the husband shows up too [17:12]
mircea_popescu "new house! new madam! new harlots! same old janos!" [17:13]
ascii_field l0l [17:13]
mircea_popescu now the question is... was it true ? [17:13]
ascii_field << finally remembered what this is called. gleichschaltung ! [17:13]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 20:01:08; mircea_popescu: They consider themselves leaderless. They can have representatives, they can have "evangelists" but they have to believe that their conclusions are all their own, through individual reflection and objective consideration. Interestingly, and on purpose, they believe their brains can handle such an analysis, any analysis. This isn't arrogance. They are told, by universities and the m [17:13]
mircea_popescu so it is. [17:13]
mircea_popescu apparently hitler lost the war. har har. [17:14]
ascii_field goebbels won [17:14]
ascii_field as per naggum [17:14]
ascii_field there are biologists somewhere, however laughable, who are not students of darwin. but there are no pr or ad men alive today who are not students of the good doctor g. [17:15]
mircea_popescu i'm doing okay. [17:15]
mircea_popescu unlike darwinism, gobblism is rank nonsense. [17:16]
adlai >> [17:16]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log ... ( ) [17:16]
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ascii_field being nonsense hasn't stopped it from much, has it [17:16]
mircea_popescu all sorts of caged penii a la blair wet their pants^H^H^H^ girly panties because o noes, nude display of will. [17:16]
* adlai oopsed, wanted to link [17:17]
mircea_popescu intelligent people can be wilful too you know. [17:17]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 20:05:45; mircea_popescu: how do you ascertain the truth of this ? [17:17]
mircea_popescu not blair, sure. but ACTUALLY intelligent people. [17:17]
ascii_field will worked great for ghadaffi [17:17]
ascii_field (until not) [17:17]
trinque adlai: there's a paragraph there on how, but I can provide some code at a later date [17:17]
ascii_field also need the knife [17:17]
trinque I am quite backed up on things deedbot- needs, but am aware of most of them [17:17]
adlai some dark and dystopian future, mpex trade submission will require deedbot-style spending, for anti-ddos [17:18]
mircea_popescu i'm confused. what are you trying to say adlai ? [17:18]
ascii_field adlai: btc telegraph? [17:18]
adlai ascii_field understood :) [17:18]
adlai trinque: not criticising deedbot-, saying that it's the answer to mircea_popescu's question [17:18]
trinque oh I got ya [17:18]
ascii_field adlai: not needed if you can verify sigs at line bandwidth at a multitude of relays. [17:19]
ascii_field adlai: see 'gossip' threads. [17:19]
mircea_popescu my question was directed at jurov re real/unreal childhood memories. [17:19]
mircea_popescu which was the point of the entire joke. [17:19]
mircea_popescu what's the parrot remember ? [17:19]
jurov there was ample evidence i am wrong [17:20]
ascii_field does mircea_popescu recall the 'repressed memory' trials in usa ? [17:20]
mircea_popescu yes. [17:20]
ascii_field it was a grotesque crime for which - afaik - no one was made to answer. [17:20]
adlai ascii_field: the telegraph decentralizes the market for rate limiting, rather than requiring baroque schemes of varying arbitrarity [17:21]
mircea_popescu jurov yes, but the problem with the evidentiary based standard is that, well, the matrix. this is one of the biggest problems for young children, incidentally. what the fuck is going on! [17:21]
mircea_popescu ascii_field imo they answered alright. nature works in the following way : the punishment is the deed. those people who bought into it got their life ruined. [17:21]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: i am speaking of those who did not buy [17:22]
trinque mircea_popescu: it occurs to me that thought itself is much like [17:22]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 19:50:44; mircea_popescu: you have to understand ontogenesis is a two step process. first, a blob develops.then, controlled apoptosis, a process so fundamental cells have signalling baked in for it (but not for hunger, not for pain etc) makes the spaces between what will be your fingers. [17:22]
ascii_field the prisoners [17:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.0005405 = 24.3225 BTC [+] {4} [17:22]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field were they living in the us ? [17:22]
ascii_field aha broomstick [17:22]
ascii_field got it [17:22]
mircea_popescu obviously. they bought. [17:22]
trinque that thoughts arise, then are selected, and so on [17:22]
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mircea_popescu prolly trinque [17:22]
mircea_popescu it's really very much an open topic, which is why the "evidence based" court's bitch goes all in for "mri scans!" [17:23]
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mircea_popescu "This is the whole gimmick of media, not polar but triangular, right, left, middle, mobilizing an army of assonauts to feel strongly enough about something that they don't do anything." [17:36]
mircea_popescu bwahaha [17:36]
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ascii_field arse longa. [17:41]
mircea_popescu no but looky, there's fifty people eating in a free fast food joint, except the rule is that when the music stops the cook comes out and picks a patron to suck his cock. [17:42]
mircea_popescu "oh i've been raped". no, you haven't, you were whoring out. "but nobody asked me" yeah, they did. "i'm just here for the free food" well... enjoy the extra protein. actually natural. [17:43]
ascii_field arse longa cocka brevis [17:43]
trinque jurov: your observation about yourself is not unlike experiences one might have on acid, in the ballpark of "this entire system of ideas that forms the world as I know it is built of assertions accepted within this universe simulation in the mind" which might be an excellent argument for the general population not having access to the stuff [17:43]
trinque "I am the 3rd coming of Jesus H Christ" or whatever, even worse [17:44]
mircea_popescu not having access to the stuff of being ficve years old ? [17:44]
mircea_popescu or moreover for adults seeking to relive 5yo-dom being a tad regressive ? [17:44]
ascii_field hey wasn't it mircea_popescu writing prescriptions for ego amputation ? [17:44]
mircea_popescu link ? [17:45]
trinque I would accept that in the vast majority of uses it's regressive [17:45]
trinque kinda what I'm saying [17:45]
ascii_field [17:45]
assbot Logged on 05-11-2015 00:34:39; mircea_popescu: better model; always asks current ego to die because current ego is a piece of shit. [17:45]
mircea_popescu aha ? [17:46]
ascii_field possibly the folks who want to 'regress to 5yo' are going for something like this ? [17:46]
ascii_field 'i figured out that being me sux, i'd like to be somebody else' [17:46]
mircea_popescu or if you ask tlp, they're doing it TO AVOID something like this. [17:46]
mircea_popescu similarly, if you ask america to vote, ( ) balance the budget ; ( ) replay the 90s, guess ? [17:47]
trinque I have seen both, certainly. Chicks that take all kinds of substances such that they never have to look at their model of the world with clear eyes [17:47]
ascii_field clear eyes ?!! [17:48]
ascii_field !s room will be empty [17:48]
assbot 2 results for 'room will be empty' : [17:48]
trinque ascii_field: you know very well I'm merely saying "not drunk/high" [17:48]
ascii_field everybody who knowingly takes anything is 'avoiding looking at the world with not-having-taken-it eyes' [17:49]
ascii_field tautologically [17:49]
trinque the word merely would be useful there [17:49]
trinque one would not refused to use a microsope because it is not merely his own eyes [17:50]
trinque *refuse [17:50]
ascii_field ask bellarmino [17:51]
mircea_popescu fine, one would not refuse to use a condom because it's not their own cock! [17:52]
trinque lol [17:53]
ascii_field isn't this precisely why folks refuse ? [17:54]
trinque with a great deal of discipline I'm certain one can observe himself in the same manner with no such substance. [17:55]
trinque and in fact that associating the state of mind with the dope may be *truly* regressive [17:55]
ascii_field with 'a great deal of discipline' one could become napoleon. [17:55]
trinque ever the "nuh uh" [17:56]
ascii_field the purpose of dope in this example is as a force multiplier. [17:56]
ascii_field MOAR return for GIVEN amount of discipline. [17:56]
ascii_field like steroiding. [17:56]
ascii_field and i realize that most idiots want to get a maxint from a zero [17:56]
trinque perhaps; I would not know. as with modafinil, would mircea_popescu say "yes, this is called paying attention, you idiots" [17:56]
ascii_field (return / effort) [17:57]
trinque :D [17:57]
ascii_field i would like to see how much attention mircea_popescu would pay if he NEVER got a full night of sleep [17:57]
ascii_field (not really, because i would not wish this on a friend. but you get the idea) [17:58]
ascii_field alternatively, let's teach legless folk to will themselves new legs [17:59]
ascii_field or hell, moar legz [17:59]
ascii_field i could use 4-6 [17:59]
trinque considering the multiple placebo effect threads, I would not be shocked to find believing "I am about to enter a hyper-aware state" is all there is to it [17:59]
mircea_popescu MOAR return for GIVEN amount of discipline. << this is fundamentally how it doesn't work. [17:59]
mircea_popescu and no, this is not how steroids work, either. this is how you/people WANT them to work. [18:00]
ascii_field yes [18:00]
ascii_field it is. [18:00]
mircea_popescu "more useless appearance of the desired thing for less work". [18:00]
mircea_popescu that useless is there necessarily. [18:00]
ascii_field as i said, most of the takers want 'world for nothing' [18:00]
mircea_popescu no. [18:00]
ascii_field recall the kalash thread ? [18:00]
ascii_field 'shit hanging off the side' [18:00]
mircea_popescu the problem isn't that they want something. they do not. they pointedly not only wish not to have it, THEY WISH IT TO NOT EXIST. because it scares them like penis @ little girl. [18:01]
ascii_field 'stop hanging shit, visit a firing range...' [18:01]
mircea_popescu what they want is to be recognised BY OTHERS as, and this is important : [18:01]
mircea_popescu not as "in possession of it", but "immune from it" [18:01]
mircea_popescu the secret hope of boi with stupid shit stuck on all sides of rifle IS NOT that he can now go shoot people. [18:01]
mircea_popescu but that HE IS IMMUNE TO PEOPLE COMING TO SHOOT HIM [18:02]
mircea_popescu which is why "if you fuck it it only gets heavy and you still can't hit largest side of barn" does not deter him. nor even occur,. [18:02]
mircea_popescu he wants to take the "spear that will pierce any shield" and fashion it into a shield that will stop any spear. [18:02]
ascii_field this is entirely true and a cursory familiarity with american sport shooting folks will confirm [18:03]
mircea_popescu which is why "gun control" is even a thing : gun owners are its biggest advocates. [18:03]
ascii_field but might be a usa-thing? [18:03]
mircea_popescu it's just a "stupid people with resources" thing [18:03]
mircea_popescu not more usa than rome or egypt [18:03]
mircea_popescu and the entire "go shooting" thing they do... [18:04]
mircea_popescu i take it as a personal point of pride that i've yet to discharge a weapon and NOT HIT SOMETHING. [18:04]
mircea_popescu what they do is go empty magazine after magazine in the worship of "look see, even THIS great gun can't hit anyone". [18:05]
mircea_popescu "i must be immune" [18:05]
mircea_popescu "my immunity from gunfire is 7k shots a week, how high is YOUR level of gunfire immunity ? over 9000 ?" [18:05]
ascii_field 'you don't hit much but twigs and brush, when you hosedown...' [18:05]
ascii_field (song) [18:05]
ascii_field btw the 'poor dancer is hindered by his own arse' dynamic is present in all walks of u.s. like, from shooting to woodworking [18:06]
ascii_field 'even this magical drill!111...!!' [18:06]
mircea_popescu obviously. [18:06]
mircea_popescu it is after all a totalitarian culture. [18:07]
ascii_field now, the infestation of genuinely subpar tools feeds into it. [18:08]
mircea_popescu inasmuch as it's driven by it [18:08]
ascii_field aha why give cargocultist a real airplane?!!1 [18:08]
ascii_field what kind of lunatic would [18:08]
mircea_popescu "productivity enhancing software", the surefire halmark of people who aren't productive and don't wish to be. [18:08]
mircea_popescu and wish you not to be, either. [18:08]
mircea_popescu stop throwing the motherfucking curve. have some productivity enhancement. [18:09]
* ascii_field for some reason always recalls 'boss screens' [18:09]
ascii_field do gamez still have'em ? [18:09]
mircea_popescu which takes us round circle to viagra : yeah, i don't take it either. because i happen to be satisfied with the sex. because the women i fuck rock. because etc. [18:09]
mircea_popescu virtuous circle. [18:09]
ascii_field aha [18:09]
mircea_popescu ascii_field eulora doesn't. [18:09]
ascii_field mega-secret of viagra is who eats it and why [18:09]
ascii_field and the fiction about 'dysfunction' is quite likely the same order of fiction as with psych meds [18:10]
ascii_field when its time to fuck hippo - viagra. [18:10]
ascii_field (or monastery.) [18:11]
ascii_field all extant dopes are, afaik, used for some variant of hippo-fucking. [18:11]
ascii_field (things that no one would do if he had half an alternative other than the broomstick) [18:12]
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trinque !up ascii_field [18:12]
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trinque ascii_field: or perhaps when it's time to quiet the neuroses and ponder the structure of DNA, LSD [18:16]
ascii_field aha [18:16]
ascii_field or if you need to learn what colour 33 is [18:16]
ascii_field or whether nouns smell of petrol [18:16]
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* kakobrekla had no such experience with lsd [18:17]
* ascii_field not expert on subj [18:17]
trinque yeah, the world was exactly as it is [18:17]
trinque it was the degree of attention being paid to it [18:18]
trinque it would seem that most lives *vastly* underutilize the capabilities of the brain, worse even than the mythical 10% figure [18:18]
mircea_popescu or of the musculature. hence pcp. [18:22]
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mircea_popescu of the greatest interest here is this tlp discussion : [18:24]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: When Is It Okay To Rape A Woman? ... ( ) [18:24]
mircea_popescu particularly the point where he goes [18:25]
mircea_popescu Because picturing yourself exerting power is fantasy; imagining yourself as victim is easy. Which is why you brought this all up. You spend a lot of your waking life creating elaborate fantasies of power that contain their own self-justifying logic, and those fantasies are so numerous that added together they actually take up a real portion of your day. A portion you're not spending on something else. If I saw a Ta [18:25]
mircea_popescu rdis, then I would know how to pilot it. If such a drug existed, then my sexual problems would all disappear. [18:25]
mircea_popescu What you don't see is that this logic isn't even self-justifying, it is self-destructing. Not "since I have sexual problems, I wish I had the drug"; but, "since I wish I had the drug, I have sexual problems." Since I wish I had the drug, two hours have already gone by. I'm staying in tonight. [18:25]
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kakobrekla i enjoyed the subjective time dilation experience [18:26]
trinque ^ this I think is just focus [18:27]
trinque though I would've otherwise said the same [18:27]
punkman you need a Tardis [18:27]
mircea_popescu lol [18:28]
punkman from the department-of-mailing-lists-I-didn't-read-but-saved-it-anyway-because-maybe-sometime: Organizing the World's Delusions [18:29]
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ascii_field apocryphally, p erdos was once persuaded by a close phriend to quit dope for a month [18:30]
ascii_field at the end, he said [18:30]
ascii_field 'thank you - you have showed me that i am not an addict.' [18:30]
mircea_popescu "It is a kind of extreme method acting; call it ironically absurd behavior." << i knew "method acting" was fucking stupid the moment i heard of it [18:30]
ascii_field 'but with [the dope] a page boils with theorems. without - just a piece of paper. mathematics lost a month because of you.' [18:31]
* trinque sees the "therefore not today" very clearly in all of this [18:31]
ascii_field ^ st augustine [18:31]
punkman better living through chemistry (tm) [18:32]
ascii_field hey, carrying a kalash in kandahar is also 'through chemistry' [18:32]
ascii_field ('you may not be interested in' chemistry but 'it is interested in you') [18:32]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: 'method acting' does raise the question : as opposed to what ? [18:34]
pete_dushenski wtf are you doing if not living and breathing your character ? [18:34]
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punkman not everyone can have character [18:34]
pete_dushenski not everyone can have cake [18:35]
ascii_field 'cake sold out, have some death' [18:36]
pete_dushenski though i grant that some actors only have one character, but we shouldn't even know the names of such fungible plebes [18:36]
pete_dushenski 'death tomorrow' [18:37]
trinque ascii_field: ah ah you said death first! [18:39]
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trinque I think lately he has abandoned the drag to act. [18:42]
trinque << hell of a look [18:42]
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pete_dushenski << now that i see this has been awarded a priority at the level of 'Thing,' i'm giving more thought to what this might look like in praxis. [18:53]
assbot Logged on 05-11-2015 22:31:57; BingoBoingo: So pete still working on a PR setup? How does their compensation work? One share per tard tear? [18:53]
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pete_dushenski it's one thing for me to represent tmsr~ to fishwraps as a voluntary service, correcting issues in 'news pieces' when and where i see them and acting as a point of contact for future inquiries [18:54]
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pete_dushenski but it's another to represent the businesses that converge in this space, be it mpex, mg, nsa, xotika, bitbet, or what have you. this representation wouldn't be voluntary, which means that it'd need to have a measurable output in order to be billable [18:56]
* shinohai would consider marriage again if his bethrothed agreed to wed here: [18:56]
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pete_dushenski how newspaper mentions, hits, views, etc. would be measured and compensated remains an open question. and one of considerable interest to me personally. so i'm chewing on it. [18:57]
ascii_field shinohai: what's this [18:57]
pete_dushenski of course, suggestions vis-a-vis tmsr~/wot-business pr needs and expectations are more than welcome [18:58]
pete_dushenski this is far from a solved consideration [18:58]
mircea_popescu though i grant that some actors only have one character, but we shouldn't even know the names of such fungible plebes << like who, bogart ? [18:59]
pete_dushenski shinohai: you still wedded, or divorced ? [18:59]
* pete_dushenski has only seen casablanca, can't speak to bogart's other roles. [19:01]
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shinohai ascii_field: funeral for one of the Russian air disaster victims. [19:03]
shinohai pete_dushenski: unwed [19:03]
ascii_field shinohai: yes but am i missing something [19:03]
pete_dushenski wasn't it 'conscious uncoupling' or something equally vomit-worthy ? [19:03]
shinohai I just like the cemetary, awesum place to get married, quite beautiful in my eye. [19:04]
shinohai !s [19:04]
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trinque meaning no disrespect to shinohai, the thread of "therefore not today" just keeps going. fascinating. [19:05]
ascii_field shinohai: [19:05]
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ascii_field trinque: all of life is an exercise in 'not today' [19:05]
trinque indeed. [19:05]
ascii_field except possibly for the day. [19:05]
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mircea_popescu o hey check it out, ghetto island pretending like it has legislative pwoer and shit ? [19:08]
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ascii_field 'Ministers have no plans to ban sex because it has an important role in the protection of legitimate economic activity such as creating bank users and lottery players. But there is concern over some aspects of so-called end-to-end fuck where only the thruster and recipient of thrust can feel it.' [19:10]
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shinohai Excellent paraphrasing. [19:11]
mircea_popescu whole community gotta participate in the fucking! [19:11]
ascii_field esp the chief [19:11]
ascii_field and his shriveled broad [19:11]
mircea_popescu aha [19:12]
ascii_field only a t3rr0r1st!!111 would reject the interpository tentacle. [19:12]
mircea_popescu "people transacting without involvement from the ministers would be tantamount to the uk government being irrelevant!!!" [19:13]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - EUR/USD Parity in 2015 - [19:18]
pete_dushenski << mircea_popescu's slavegirls really pumped up the value of this game eh [19:24]
assbot Activision Blizzard to Acquire King Digital Entertainment for $5.9 Billion | Business Wire ... ( ) [19:24]
mircea_popescu whossat ? [19:24]
mircea_popescu o candy crush makers aha [19:24]
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mircea_popescu << black is the culture of proliferate! [19:29]
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ascii_field << the new111! cryptome [19:30]
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ascii_field snore. [19:30]
shinohai Wonder if Qween Purp is one of those blacks like the college professor that believes white people should deposit all their money into black people's bank accounts. [19:32]
adlai "Satoshi Nakamoto already is in possession of several hundred million U.S. dollars worth of bitcoins so the additional prize money may not mean much to him. Only if he wants, the committee could also transfer the prize money to my bitcoin address, 165sAHBpLHujHbHx2zSjC898oXEz25Awtj. Mr Nakamoto and I will settle [19:33]
assbot I (Shall Happily) Accept the 2016 Nobel Prize in Economics on Behalf of Satoshi Nakamoto | Bhagwan Chowdhry ... ( ) [19:33]
adlai later." [19:33]
mircea_popescu what money ? [19:33]
shinohai hue [19:33]
mircea_popescu adlai what the fuck is this retarded bullshit ? [19:34]
ascii_field gavin? [19:34]
mircea_popescu they ran out of costumes that fit gavin, moved on to whatever sand niggers ? [19:34]
adlai tl;dr: Q: "who do you nominate for our prize?" A: "my cleverness" [19:34]
ascii_field 'Follow Bhagwan Chowdhry on Twitter' [19:34]
ascii_field great phonwalla name [19:34]
mircea_popescu i'll pass. [19:34]
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pete_dushenski christina hop in the #freenode channel and ask one of the admins for a cloak sometime. it'll prevent your ip address from showing. [19:46]
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punkman from the department of titles: "Ben Carson Defends Himself Against Allegations That He Never Attempted to Murder a Child" [19:57]
davout mircea_popescu: irloled at parrot joke [19:58]
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mircea_popescu :p [20:01]
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mircea_popescu in other news, [20:12]
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mod6 <+shinohai> mod6: have you had any sucess with bsd yet ? << yeah, OpenBSD, achieved a full sync a few months back. had to patch it by hand. [20:14]
mod6 i wanna say it was phf's patches from back in July. [20:16]
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shinohai Thx mod6 ... i dun goofed with my pogoplug, reinstalling arch on it nau xD [20:21]
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ascii_field << lulzz [20:28]
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mircea_popescu ok, so i've made pilaf, and included a random mushroom found in china town. it's roughly speaking like a loofah. [20:29]
mircea_popescu pale white, no apparent stalk, if dried readily crumbles / grates [20:30]
mircea_popescu very pleasant flavour, anyone know it ? [20:30]
punkman morels? [20:31]
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ascii_field in other lulz, [20:31]
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pete_dushenski << we're not gonna take it ! [20:33]
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shinohai Someone should perhaps talk with him about the concept of spelling. [20:33]
mircea_popescu punkman naw, the thing is smooth [20:33]
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pete_dushenski << esr in his prime, with unknown chica, circa '06 [20:41]
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pete_dushenski or perhaps esr with unknown dood [20:42]
shinohai da fuq [20:42]
pete_dushenski !up ascii_field [20:42]
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pete_dushenski shinohai: :D [20:42]
shinohai I must banish that from my memory with a pricey escort. I may send you the bill pete_dushenski. [20:44]
shinohai ^^ [20:44]
pete_dushenski sure, add it to the pile ;) [20:44]
* trinque groaned aloud [20:46]
pete_dushenski << or, why the fuck are you running anything after 10.6 [20:46]
assbot MacBooks are so hot right now. And so is Mac OS X malware • The Register ... ( ) [20:46]
mircea_popescu dear god wtf is that. [20:46]
shinohai I dunno but it just cost pete_dushenski a bitcoin. [20:47]
pete_dushenski #worthit [20:47]
shinohai I was unaware they had that sort of outfit in "Oh my God it's coming toward us!" sizes. [20:48]
pete_dushenski "This year, there have been 948 OS X malware samples, compared with 180 in the years 2011-14 inclusive." << nice work, cook. way to limp-wrist it. [20:49]
* pete_dushenski eagerly awaits BingoBoingo's reaction to photo [20:49]
punkman dat sideboob [20:49]
mircea_popescu what the fuck is count to do with it [20:50]
mircea_popescu "apple store has 68765985897 games this year, up 0987985698 from 54897658976598 last year" [20:50]
mircea_popescu "except they're all the same three games reskinned" [20:50]
pete_dushenski aha, quality not quantity [20:52]
pete_dushenski speaking of quality, [20:52]
assbot SHA-1 Deprecation Update | Microsoft Edge Dev Blog ... ( ) [20:52]
shinohai <<< kewl maybe mp can have drinks with him. [20:52]
assbot Argentinië jaagt op Mexicaanse drugsbaas El Chapo | Buitenland | de Volkskrant ... ( ) [20:52]
pete_dushenski "winbloze CONSIDERS deprecating sha1". so it's on the table. just so you know. [20:53]
punkman from el reg [20:54]
assbot Dispatches from the Iranian cyberfront ... ( ) [20:54]
BingoBoingo * pete_dushenski eagerly awaits BingoBoingo's reaction to photo << Pretty sure ESR was always a pigfucker [20:55]
pete_dushenski at least he's staying within the species [20:57]
mircea_popescu so wait, now that they lost "cryptoexpert" bruce whatshisname, and the entire zimmerman angle didn't work, the plan is to bring the deceased husk of esr back to complement the recently stolen cryptome into some sort of bitcoin-foundation-3.0-except-with-more-gunk ? [20:57]
mircea_popescu why not just program re-runs of obama's sex tape if this is the level of effort. [20:58]
mircea_popescu "no, i'm sure it's just a crazed ruiu acting alone". obviously. [20:59]
ascii_field ahahahahaha [21:01]
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BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: I'm not so sure [21:05]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: You do remember how Animal Farm ends? [21:05]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: 2 legs good, 4 legs better ? or what was it... [21:09]
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pete_dushenski "Volkswagen of America, in a bid to regain the trust of current diesel owners, will announce a prepaid card campaign on November 9, TTAC has learned. The program, detailed to dealers Thursday in preparation of its public announcement, is aimed at current owners of affected TDI models regardless of whether they bought their car new or used. Two prepaid cards will be offered to those TDI owners. The first one will be f [21:16]
pete_dushenski 500 and has no restrictions on where it can be used. The second, which may be valued between $500 and $750, will be limited to use at Volkswagen dealerships." << in which vw doesn't even try to 'fix' the problem that isn't and instead distributes cash to owners whose vehicles WILL BE WORTH MORE than the owners of post-scandal neutertronics [21:16]
pete_dushenski weird. [21:17]
pete_dushenski but still a big middle finger to regulators [21:17]
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pete_dushenski so no, vw won't be 'fixing' any old vehicles. you can take your carbon, nox, etc and huff it. [21:17]
mircea_popescu this is obviousy to cover the cost of neutreting [21:19]
mircea_popescu while trying to take advantage of the consumer's disinclination to use it [21:19]
mircea_popescu but yeah, i imagine the regulotards are prolly livid. [21:20]
mircea_popescu "what, drive a wedge between the people and the governmentoregulating fruiting body ? WE OWN THE PEOPLE1!11!" [21:20]
pete_dushenski these prepaid cards will be used for organic groceries at whole foods [21:20]
mircea_popescu bedside's the point. [21:20]
pete_dushenski if my conception of the average american tdi owner is accurate [21:20]
pete_dushenski *late-model tdi owner [21:21]
pete_dushenski so much for pulling the plug on the us market altogether as per [21:21]
assbot In which Volkswagen takes aim at the insanity of statal overbearing. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [21:21]
pete_dushenski guess there was really no need [21:21]
pete_dushenski why leave when you own the house ? [21:21]
pete_dushenski the girl can leave. and take the kids too. [21:22]
pete_dushenski << /me looks forward to taunting pantagruel into going all the way. [21:23]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 19:26:00; mircea_popescu: ascii_field there are two kinds of three year olds. all three year olds sooner or later threaten their parents with holding their breath. all parents laugh at this, as it's a physiological impossibility : if you do any sort of a good job you necessarily pass out, and once you pass out autosomatic control restarts breathing. the two kinds of kids are : the ones that are dissuaded by th [21:23]
mircea_popescu you have no contribution in there. [21:24]
pete_dushenski o ? [21:24]
pete_dushenski seed shot, la fin ? [21:24]
mircea_popescu no, but it's for the benefit of the mother. [21:24]
pete_dushenski so the threat is only directed at the mother ? [21:26]
mircea_popescu well you know, small kids. their relationship is to mom. [21:26]
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pete_dushenski to be sure, but then 'threaten their parents with holding their breath' is really 'threaten their mothers' [21:27]
mircea_popescu well, just like in a movie : actor threatens the other actor AND the audience, but can't really hear the audience. [21:28]
pete_dushenski and even still, i think panta's mom would get a kick out of seeing him pull it off [21:28]
* pete_dushenski will have popcorn on hand, regardless [21:28]
pete_dushenski speaking of which, how did it take movie theatres however many decades to figure out reserved seating ? [21:29]
pete_dushenski there's ONE theatre in town with this : reserved seating, wine+beer, hot food, the works [21:29]
pete_dushenski fantastic way to spend $20 (normal movie is $13) [21:30]
mircea_popescu i've yet to see a full movie theatre. [21:30]
* pete_dushenski has seen several times, unfortunately [21:30]
mircea_popescu << real pix, or how i fucked a girl in of 3k empty seats. [21:30]
assbot Imaginarium on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [21:30]
pete_dushenski << this needs to be taught ? more gender equalities studies needed plox. boys have no such inability. [21:39]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 19:40:43; mircea_popescu: which is why teaching slavegirls to orgasm on command is important. the internalised sexuality is a good and useful proxy for a great many other things they need. [21:39]
pete_dushenski << americans do this domestically too ! [21:42]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 19:45:17; ascii_field: there is, iirc, a clinic in ru that does it. booked for years in advance. [21:42]
assbot New York Man 'Grows' Six Inches Through Surgery - ABC News ... ( ) [21:42]
pete_dushenski "Surgeons break the leg bone in two and implant a state-of-the-art telescopic rod into the middle of the broken bones which then pulls the bone apart very slowly, about one millimeter a day. New bone grows around it and tissues like the muscle, the nerves, the arteries, and the skin, regenerate as well. At about $85,000, the procedure is expensive and the process lengthy. It takes at least three months to complete it [21:43]
pete_dushenski it requires demanding and excruciating physical therapy." [21:43]
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trinque pete_dushenski: I see two things there: a deep, pervasive obedience in human beings and a total lack of sane input [21:53]
trinque that he should be tall or short or have a flagpole in his ass was not and was never his idea [21:54]
pete_dushenski and who can say that their ideas are their own ? [21:54]
trinque for me, an open question, but surely approaches 0 [21:55]
pete_dushenski arguably, will/cock is what separates actors from audience [21:55]
pete_dushenski audience has ideas too, but so what [21:56]
pete_dushenski too busy eating popcorn and chirping to be on stage [21:56]
trinque mhm, perhaps it is a not a question of whether moved, but by what [22:00]
trinque them, other humans [22:00]
trinque a man with will; that is the one harder to define [22:00]
trinque one can say himself, but is he committing tautology? [22:00]
trinque that's the open question [22:01]
pete_dushenski 'who is the first mover' [22:02]
pete_dushenski << lel. somehow brings to mind teh who 'conference' racket. [22:02]
assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 21:07:48; mircea_popescu: stop throwing the motherfucking curve. have some productivity enhancement. [22:02]
* trinque goes to pick things up and put them down again, and to ponder this [22:03]
pete_dushenski which 'conferences' are really conventions [22:03]
pete_dushenski trinque: pick up spinoza sometime [22:03]
pete_dushenski re: 'conpherences' : << looks like i just missed one in my own backyard, featuring speakers that include, and i couldn't make this up, a magician. [22:06]
assbot 2015 Business Productivity & Growth Conference | Convention Business Travel ... ( ) [22:06]
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shinohai <<< Best title EVAH [22:21]
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mod6 asciilifeform & all, I've added one more change to V for the forthcoming version of 99998: People have been letting me know that if their system us using a version of perl less than 5.12 that it's been causing problems. So i've added a statement that requires a minimum of 5.12. [22:51]
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mod6 in the process of testing that change as well as the change for the temporary gpg directory. [22:52]
* mircea_popescu goes by, sees asscrack moving through the doorcrack. [22:52]
mircea_popescu who the fuck came up with gyms and why the fuck would you want the women working out outside the home. [22:52]
pete_dushenski 'need a reason to get out of the house' [22:53]
pete_dushenski 'need to find a fitness instructor worth banging while you're at work' [22:54]
shinohai Does this one not require Graph::Easy ? [22:54]
mod6 This version will also have the change where Graph::Easy is not required unless you invoke v with the `g' or `graph' command [22:55]
* pete_dushenski to dinner [22:59]
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ben_vulpes mod6: why does it fail with versions under 5.12? [23:18]
mod6 because the 'each' keyword isn't supported. [23:18]
* ben_vulpes has just rediscovered that gpg doesn't handle filename wildcards gracefully or at all [23:19]
ben_vulpes mod6: i see [23:19]
mircea_popescu "In the world where the media postulates social media as an absolute requirement of the modern era-- the era where everything is fetishized-- no one is permitted to make the distinction between a value and the picture of a value, they are made equivalent, so daring to criticize Randi's baby pictures is made to sound like misogyny or misobaby. It's not. I love food but if you ask me to look at a picture of a food I wil [23:22]
mircea_popescu l poison your toothpaste. Be careful: the point is not that a woman shouldn't post her baby pictures, the point is that the system cannot profit from her baby except as a photo, so that in order to get them to do it more-- to be online more-- the system teaches them to overvalue the photo; and this must necessarily be at the expense of the object itself. #porn." [23:22]
mircea_popescu aww. [23:22]
* asciilifeform finally home [23:24]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: consider reading the src to gpg [23:24]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: it is very interesting in all the wrong ways [23:24]
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asciilifeform << interesting sport - fake hanging [23:33]
assbot Dîmenê dawî ji şanoya "Nama Leyla Qasim" - Koma Qamişlo ya serbixwe - YouTube ... ( ) [23:33]
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