Forum logs for 04 Nov 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
PeterL yes [00:00]
kakobrekla is the syntax such that my great ass suggested? [00:00]
kakobrekla s/that/as [00:00]
PeterL huh? [00:00]
kakobrekla !s if you are going to do it [00:01]
assbot 10 results for 'if you are going to do it' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=if+you+are+going+to+do+it [00:01]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2014#882883 [00:01]
assbot Logged on 19-10-2014 02:27:17; kakobrekla: PeterL if you are going to do it, make the syntax 'New blog post on $sitename by $author: $url" [00:01]
PeterL oh, that. right now it is "new blog post on $sitename: $url" [00:02]
kakobrekla add the author? [00:03]
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PeterL ok, I will do that now [00:05]
kakobrekla great [00:05]
kakobrekla once this works and if you are bored, add wordcount at the end of report and estimated reading time [00:06]
bounce ugh. [00:06]
kakobrekla wha? [00:06]
* bounce was about to say something about making the notice shorter, but estimated reading time? ew! [00:07]
kakobrekla yeah [00:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00073187 = 12.8809 BTC [-] {2} [00:07]
kakobrekla easier to make the call - click or not to click [00:07]
mike_c plus # of footnotes [00:07]
bounce no, it's complete bs. reading time does not depend on wordcount alone. or even taking word length into consideration. [00:08]
kakobrekla maybe [00:08]
kakobrekla on the other hand would work for qntra [00:08]
kakobrekla reading @ easy difficulty [00:09]
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bounce so youse gots a difficulty estimator @ qntra? [00:10]
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PeterL ok, now scoopbot should include the author. [00:10]
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PeterL !up scoopbot [00:10]
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kakobrekla but anyway a simplistic approach : estimate reading time by multiplying the word count by result of brainwallet test [00:11]
jurov ;;isup deeds.bitcoin-assets.com [00:12]
gribble deeds.bitcoin-assets.com is up [00:12]
bounce author, wordcount, footnote count would give some indication to make your own estimation [00:12]
kakobrekla whats footnote measure? [00:13]
kakobrekla nothing. [00:13]
mike_c reading time [00:13]
kakobrekla maybe the cultness of the article [00:13]
bounce if you don't want to hear the answer, you might as well not ask the question. [00:13]
PeterL would I be able to tell where the footnotes start from the blob of text in the rss feed? [00:13]
kakobrekla lol [00:13]
jurov is up but sloooow [00:13]
kakobrekla PeterL we just masturbating here [00:13]
PeterL my next task is to rework all scoopbot's commands to respond to his name [00:14]
bounce the entire article ends up in the rss feed? [00:14]
PeterL depends on the feed, I think? [00:14]
kakobrekla who knows, its rss [00:14]
bounce footnotes are a major break in reading flow, so they're quite influential for the overall reading user experience and therefore the total amount of time the user gets to waste going back and forth [00:15]
bounce to answer your [00:15]
kakobrekla anyway, we are measuring reading time, not comprehension time [00:15]
bounce question you didn't want answered [00:16]
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kakobrekla if i give you 300 pages of easy text, you can not read it in 1 minutes [00:16]
kakobrekla no matter how easy it is [00:16]
bounce you're not measuring anything, you're making vague estimates on unsound assumptions [00:16]
PinkPosixPXE 01:27 #bitcoin-assets: <+mircea_popescu> ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov << Thanks for adding it to the exchange and doling out some shares, and thanks as well jurov :) [00:16]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [00:16]
jurov mircea_popescu: we need some default agreement for shares that don't get claimed [00:17]
jurov i propose if they don't get claimed in 14 days, then they get loaned to coinbr. [00:17]
jurov and after that, shares+dividends will be delivered after 14 days of the request [00:17]
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jurov er.. in 14days of the request [00:17]
jurov now, what with the treasurer stuff? i'll just sign in without the references. [00:18]
PinkPosixPXE I've been meaning to chat more on here about assisting with some of the bitcoin dev and testing work I've been watching go on, but I've been slammed with projects, I have too many projects/hobbies I'm beginning to think. Either way, I wrote up an install_bitcoin script that takes into account dependency issues for certain versoins of debian and ubuntu.. not sure if anyone would find it useful, [00:19]
PinkPosixPXE mod6 expressed interest, and I set it up after running into issues on one of my instances, and then tested it across a vagrant+virtualbox testing environment with a few debian and ubuntu distros. [00:19]
kakobrekla PinkPosixPXE ditch the bad hobbies [00:19]
mike_c sounds like a good addition to wiki.b-a [00:19]
kakobrekla wiki , yes, as stan pointed out, needs work. [00:20]
PinkPosixPXE yea, I can point out several pages where people complain about hte dependency issues, and so I thought 'well this script would fix them all' then idiots don't go using berklydb/bdb 5.3 or another versoin that isn't wallet or blockchain storage compatible [00:20]
punkman would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? [00:20]
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punkman cazalla, ^ [00:20]
The20YearIRCloud Looks like we'll close on our next bank funding round this week [00:20]
jurov punkman i can create another mailing list for that [00:20]
PinkPosixPXE kakobrekla: well it's all that + full time syseng work.. so .. been trying to find time and get rid of the unimportant ones [00:21]
punkman jurov, ah yeah that might be a good way to duct-tape this together [00:21]
The20YearIRCloud Not sure if any of you are into rentalstarter... [00:21]
kakobrekla ;;rate PinkPosixPXE 1 helps noobs [00:25]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user PinkPosixPXE has changed from 1 to 1. [00:25]
PinkPosixPXE ty :) [00:25]
kakobrekla its true [00:26]
mike_c !t h rent [00:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00450000 / 0.00456986 / 0.00490800 (482 shares, 2.20267263 BTC), 7D: 0.00412527 / 0.00465236 / 0.00490998 (1567 shares, 7.29024029 BTC), 30D: 0.00400000 / 0.00451531 / 0.00509996 (4875 shares, 22.01212200 BTC) [00:26]
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PinkPosixPXE I can also help you guys figure out the gpg git key signing if that's still a debacle or issue for you, but I'll have to ask more questions, and find out the scope/desires first, before we could dive into that. But I'm happy to help throw my extra cpu cycles at this stuff :) [00:27]
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jurov PinkPosixPXE: current status is: http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev , no git at all [00:28]
kakobrekla PinkPosixPXE were you actually following the debate? [00:28]
fivezerotwo hello everyone, its been a while [00:29]
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PinkPosixPXE thanks jurov, perfect.. wanted to see where things were at.. [00:30]
PinkPosixPXE kakobrekla: I followed much of it for the past few weeks [00:30]
PinkPosixPXE the idscussions around the patches, and testing, bitcoin foundation, git signing, etc. [00:31]
PinkPosixPXE discussions* [00:31]
PinkPosixPXE but the last week has been really busy [00:31]
kakobrekla well color me surprised then. [00:31]
PinkPosixPXE I was going to speak up sooner, but I didn't want to commit/promise anything, when I was so busy [00:32]
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PinkPosixPXE so I just kept watching the discussions, and kept up with what was going on [00:32]
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PeterL !up scoopbot [00:33]
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kakobrekla PeterL is that thing registered with nickserv? [00:33]
jurov punkbot, deed https://coinbr.com/foundation.txt.asc [00:34]
punkbot jurov: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. [00:34]
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PeterL yes [00:34]
mike_c ;;ident scoopbot [00:34]
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PeterL do I need to make a grible ident for it? [00:34]
kakobrekla no [00:34]
BingoBoingo ;;rate ninjashogun -3 UnSavory Garnish, Vegetable Can't find right IRC window [00:35]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ninjashogun has changed from -3 to -3. [00:35]
bounce a nickserv account would be decent, though [00:35]
bounce as in, with a cloak saying to bug you if it misbehaves [00:35]
PeterL oh, how do I do that? [00:35]
kakobrekla PeterL get a cloak in #freenode [00:35]
punkman you need to group a second nick for it first [00:36]
PeterL so the bot should be logged in under my account? [00:36]
punkman no I mean to get a cloak, you need to have an alternate nick grouped in the account [00:37]
* bounce would make a separate account, but dunno what freenode wants [00:37]
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kakobrekla lol cs [00:37]
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PeterL oh, a second nick grouped to scoopbot? [00:38]
kakobrekla anyway, should be voiced on join [00:38]
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mike_c https://freenode.net/faq.shtml - see "what is the recommended way to set up my irc nickname" #5 & #6 [00:38]
assbot freenode: frequently-asked questions [00:38]
The20YearIRCloud Right now we have about .015btc/share in equity, stock price is well under that though [00:38]
kakobrekla if i got the command right anyway [00:38]
mike_c The20YearIRCloud: any more ipos coming up? [00:39]
The20YearIRCloud Nope [00:39]
cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/american-malls-converted-to-data-centres/ [00:39]
assbot American Malls Converted To Data Centres | Qntra.net [00:39]
The20YearIRCloud Absolutely no need for em [00:39]
mike_c ;;calc (0.000031 * 12) / 0.015 [00:40]
gribble 0.0248 [00:40]
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mike_c is the company building up cash or paying out most free cash flow in divs? [00:41]
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The20YearIRCloud RIght now we're looking at changing the div pay to reflect higher re-investment in the company [00:41]
The20YearIRCloud Especially since the banks right now are offering us 1:5 leverage for each dollar we put into the loans, and that's pretty hard to refuse. [00:41]
mike_c so lowering divs and building up equity [00:41]
The20YearIRCloud Divs won't actually go down, they just won't go up [00:41]
The20YearIRCloud While equity will increase significantly more [00:42]
The20YearIRCloud I'm looking by end of year under current system to be paying out around 10-14btc/month in dividends if we don't change the setup. Our last month's payment was something like 5btc [00:42]
mike_c cool. well if you're not issuing more shares who cares what the price is [00:42]
The20YearIRCloud I personally don't, it lets me buy more shares. However I know we have some that want to see high dividends [00:43]
mike_c well lucky for you they aren't voting shares [00:43]
The20YearIRCloud and a mix of high share price & dividend price shows more of a proof-of-concept to investors [00:43]
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fivezerotwo So we expanded our layer 4 attacking power. Qntra/Trilema, therealbitcoin, bitbet, bitcoin-assets.com... take your pick! [00:44]
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The20YearIRCloud Even if they were voting shares it wouldn't change much. Our top 3 shareholders whom account for something like 60% of share ownership are all on the board and agree with where we're headed [00:44]
fivezerotwo PinkPosi4PXE, Its stupid to reconnect without a cloak [00:44]
mike_c great, so keep plugging? you're profitable and don't need more investment. sounds good to me. [00:45]
The20YearIRCloud Pretty much [00:45]
mike_c congrats. [00:45]
The20YearIRCloud The bank's telling us we should be able to loan a little under $1mm with our current margins [00:45]
nubbins` <+jurov> the REFERENCES can't be replaced by definition.. why they must be there? <<< heh [00:45]
mike_c biggest risk to your business now is probably being associated with havelock. [00:46]
The20YearIRCloud And our margins are *quite* healthy considering industry averages [00:46]
cazalla fivezerotwo, you never got back to me [00:46]
The20YearIRCloud Yep [00:46]
fivezerotwo cazalla, oh yeah [00:46]
nubbins` jurov in fact, that REFERENCE should be amended to point to the foundation charter. [00:46]
punkbot Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/12CJHNrB [00:46]
The20YearIRCloud I wouldn't be surprised to see the BOA want to move away in the next year [00:46]
jurov ^ too late [00:46]
mike_c that would be smart. [00:46]
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jurov ben_vulpes this deed^ [00:47]
nubbins` ah for shame, was just about to post the details in question [00:47]
nubbins` http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/J74EmoXm5mggdfGwAWvFCx4Z9KWycj3jeeLthijXAvY [00:47]
assbot Deed J74EmoXm | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [00:47]
The20YearIRCloud But, for the time being that's where we are, it's working for us (kind of). [00:47]
nubbins` now there's a [R.1] in the doc w/ no reference below :S [00:47]
mike_c yeah, it works right up until it doesn't. [00:48]
nubbins` [R.1] As established in The Bitcoin Public Record, Deed ID 9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj, [00:48]
nubbins` Bundle 12CJHNrBGLNxLaYbX9NH2tnU1JAeXxByZ6 confirmed in block BLOCKHEIGHT with transaction ID db155b101580cf08c366f6016abe3310a1122f7f67f7303878a7254e854e2689. [00:48]
BingoBoingo Arbeit Macht Frei http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/03/_work_sets_you_free_sign_stolen_dachau_memorial_robbed.html [00:49]
assbot "Work sets you free" sign stolen: Dachau memorial robbed. [00:49]
punkman hah [00:50]
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punkbot Confirmed bundle 12CJHNrBGLNxLaYbX9NH2tnU1JAeXxByZ6 | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/12CJHNrB [00:50]
BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7by9/new_bitcoin_deed_system_launches/ [00:53]
assbot New Bitcoin Deed System Launches : Bitcoin [00:53]
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fivezerotwo upvote this please :) [00:53]
punkman ddos incoming? [00:53]
fivezerotwo punkman, yeah, getting PinkPosixPXE's AWS account suspended first, then moving to assets sites [00:54]
punkman well this particular one won't take much [00:55]
punkman could probably refresh really fast in your browser [00:55]
fivezerotwo have fun, i'll see you soon :D [00:55]
The20YearIRCloud I'm having fun with the company though, one day a month I get to feel what it's like to walk around like a drug dealer with $3k-$4k cash in my pocket. [00:55]
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cazalla fivezerotwo wants 2 btc to stop lol http://pastebin.com/zYgMgPhU [00:56]
assbot i haz vry p0wrful LOIC cannonz 15mpps i - Pastebin.com [00:56]
kakobrekla "hey pssst got anything on ya??" "nothing but some apartment dust." [00:56]
kakobrekla is it not funny? [00:57]
kakobrekla too dry? [00:57]
* kakobrekla puts more water on the thing. [00:57]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: See, that's useful. Wet Apartment dust === Spackle [00:58]
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The20YearIRCloud That's about it [01:00]
The20YearIRCloud "hey, got any bedbugs?" [01:00]
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punkman 15mpps << wait, all this trouble from 15mbits? [01:06]
kakobrekla its packets per second [01:06]
kakobrekla also dick millimeters [01:07]
kakobrekla same thing [01:07]
BingoBoingo millipenises? [01:07]
punkman well better post any deeds before it explodes [01:08]
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nubbins` imagine paying someone to stop a ddos [01:20]
nubbins` my sides [01:20]
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jurov could only get funnier if he hasked to put the ransom note into a deed [01:28]
nubbins` heh [01:28]
nubbins` punkman fwiw: [01:28]
nubbins` <@gmaxwell> nubbins`: Change the hash to get rid of the crazy base58 (pita to implement) in the inner loop and make it a merkle tree so the proof can be compact even with many things commited. And instead of using a private key, use a pay-to-contract https://github.com/Blockstream/contracthashtool [01:28]
assbot Blockstream/contracthashtool · GitHub [01:28]
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cazalla punkman: would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? <<< it's an idea but i think we keep process as is atm [01:31]
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PeterL ben_vulpes: you run cascadianhacker.com? [01:33]
punkman nubbins`: lol base58 is the pita to implement [01:34]
punkman but good point about merkle tree [01:35]
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PinkPosixPXE that was entertaining [01:38]
PinkPosixPXE what a jackass.. with his leet .NET framework skillz [01:39]
kakobrekla allow me to recommend you a cloak. [01:39]
PinkPosixPXE yea, im already setting one up.. I can flip my ip as often as I like, but I'm setting up ipv6 cloaking [01:40]
PinkPosixPXE I also spoke to amazon just in case .. his 'ddos' was pretty weak [01:41]
kakobrekla lol [01:41]
nubbins` i bet it was like 1% of xmas traffic ;/ [01:43]
nubbins` PinkPosixPXE don't knock .net, where else can you combine c-style code with visual basic in the same executable? :D [01:44]
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PinkPosixPXE hehe [01:45]
PinkPosixPXE I'm actually in the process of migrating off aws to my beefier vps' with ddos mitigation and the works, but just hadn't done so yet.. didn't know mr. micro penis police was going to decide to pull my pigtails while he sits in his mothers basement.. [01:47]
PinkPosixPXE I didn't get a calendar invite from him.. ;) [01:48]
kakobrekla yes, lets irc get 10gbps lines for our ircing needs [01:49]
kakobrekla -irc [01:49]
nubbins` but how will we generate deeds locally and fund the addresses ourselves if deeds.bitcoin-assets.com is down [01:52]
nubbins` by using the available tools?! [01:52]
kakobrekla paper and pen? [01:52]
nubbins` it's as if there's no stopping us ;0 [01:53]
jurov maybe using asciilifeform's blockchain telegraph? [01:53]
nubbins` blockchain ham [01:53]
PinkPosixPXE hehe these vps' are for a few other projects as well, but will also meet my irc needs [01:54]
kakobrekla jurov another boxen is cheaper than that :) [01:55]
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ben_vulpes PeterL: oui c'est moi [02:03]
PeterL does it have a rss feed? [02:03]
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PinkPosixPXE ok, time to finish up some work/be productive, and have some delightful Pho for dinner! [02:13]
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kakobrekla you live in the nam? [02:18]
PinkPosixPXE hehe nah, I just buy food from the nam's restaurant.. the good ones [02:20]
PinkPosixPXE nom 'nam [02:22]
ben_vulpes PeterL: i made one at one point, but it's fallen over since. [02:24]
PeterL aha, let me know if you get a feed working so I can add it to the bot's list [02:24]
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kakobrekla ;;rate fivezerotwo -1 >I wanna see if trust list notifications work correctly (next one in a couple of hours) [02:35]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user fivezerotwo has been recorded. [02:35]
scoopbot New post on BTC Scoop by peter: http://blog.btcscoop.com/introducing-the-scoopbot/ [02:36]
kakobrekla it werks [02:38]
kakobrekla drinks for everyone! [02:38]
PeterL when I tried to add author i borked it, but now it works again [02:39]
kakobrekla you cant really claim that [02:39]
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BingoBoingo scoopbot request n00dz [02:40]
kakobrekla > http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2014#905173 [02:40]
assbot Logged on 31-10-2014 04:09:06; kakobrekla: there is only non working code atm so stfu. [02:40]
mircea_popescu ahhh that was the best salmon in soffran sauce i ever had. [02:45]
BingoBoingo Oh another "if massive mining power, then this had probably been discussed to death before" attack http://bramcohen.com/2014/11/03/an-attack-on-the-timestamp-semantics-of-bitcoin [02:45]
mircea_popescu nah, actually, the timestamping is known to be weak. [02:45]
kakobrekla soffran ? saffron? [02:46]
mircea_popescu saffron yea [02:46]
kakobrekla that thing is poison. [02:46]
mircea_popescu mike_c: news flash: news doesn't have footnotes. << i dunno, maybe i'm nuts but imo the current solution to the problem of illiterare population (dumb down the news) is maybe not the best. putting footnotes in there so even the clueless can follow may work ? [02:47]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla isn't that if you eat thr wrong part ? [02:48]
mircea_popescu jurov: mircea_popescu: or i can generate something like 1BTCFund but it 'll take a while <<< eeentirely up to you. [02:49]
PeterL news doesn't have footnotes because they have not adapted to using the technology yet [02:49]
mircea_popescu and totally bitbet needs moar footnotes :D [02:49]
PeterL they are still stuck trying to make their websites look like a paper newspaper [02:50]
mircea_popescu ^ [02:50]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu afaik no. but you need 10 grams to take you out. [02:50]
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mircea_popescu and breaking all the fucking browsers as a result. [02:50]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla seeing how i didn't pay like 10k for the sauce alone, i somehow doubt there was enough in there then [02:50]
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kakobrekla lucky for us it has a strong taste so you dont need much of it. [02:51]
kakobrekla less than half a gram for a persons meal +- [02:51]
mircea_popescu punkman Sorry, the requested URL 'http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/raw_bundles/1M/1MXeLHi5%00bundle' caused an error: Not found: '/raw_bundles/1M/1MXeLHi5x00bundle' [02:51]
mircea_popescu i just clicked a link! [02:51]
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mircea_popescu 0x1) CLAUSES 0x0] INTRODUCTION ; RESPONSIBILITIES => ) ==== ] [02:53]
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punkman where was that link? [02:54]
mircea_popescu Download bundle: JSON | Raw << raw part [02:54]
punkman oic [02:54]
mircea_popescu bounce: no, it's complete bs. reading time does not depend on wordcount alone. or even taking word length into consideration. <<< seriously guise, this "reading time" thing is poppy. [02:55]
asciilifeform putting footnotes in there so even the clueless can follow may work ? << lol! what next, footnotes for linux kernel so illiterates can understand? bitcoind? lev landau's 'mechanics' ? [02:56]
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kakobrekla ftr im against against. [02:57]
mircea_popescu bounce: footnotes are a major break in reading flow [...] <<< here's a tip&trick : hover pointer over footnote mark, there's a tooltip that loads it. [02:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform sure. [02:57]
mircea_popescu it'd be better than the current pretense of "we invented a new, easier one!" [02:58]
kakobrekla nobody notices kakos headnotes. [02:58]
mircea_popescu "it doesn't work, and it's pretty stupid, but at least you know, ux!" [02:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla heads too big, hard to notice. [02:58]
asciilifeform what would, e.g., herr landau, have accomplished, if he had to occupy himself with teaching arithmetic. [02:58]
cazalla fwiw, i don't think the kakobrekla's and asciilifeform's of this world are the target audience for Qntra [02:58]
asciilifeform cazalla: who, if it isn't a deep secret, is? [02:59]
kakobrekla fine ill go back to coindesk. [02:59]
BingoBoingo cazalla: kakobrekla is the audience for everything [02:59]
mircea_popescu jurov: i propose if they don't get claimed in 14 days, then they get loaned to coinbr. <<< i think that's how brokers work anyway, minus the 14 days [02:59]
* asciilifeform a believer in 'last psychiatrist's theorem' - 'if yer reading it, it's for you' [02:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not landau. later contributors can footnote it. [02:59]
mircea_popescu qntra doesn't make the news, it just footnotes it! [03:00]
cazalla although maybe BingoBoingo's articles have more appeal to the sophisticated Qntra reader [03:00]
asciilifeform qntra, american malls converting to data centers << obligatory >> http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/07/dead-souls.html [03:01]
* BingoBoingo thinks this is prolly the most qntra piece so far. http://qntra.net/2014/10/matonis-to-resign-from-vessenes-bitcoin-foundation/ [03:02]
mircea_popescu punkman: would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? << it's not a bad idea on the face but the truth is that the pipeline is too finnicky and too dependent on handwork for it to be useful. yet. [03:02]
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asciilifeform signed posts << incidentally, this - plus a dose of wot - is the final thermonuclear pill against spam. [03:03]
asciilifeform call it 'ninjashotgun.' [03:03]
mircea_popescu it seems to be working fine yes. [03:04]
punkman also good idea for solo blog and comments [03:04]
punkman so you can post with logging in or such [03:05]
punkman *without [03:05]
asciilifeform screw logging in. [03:05]
mircea_popescu ^ [03:05]
mircea_popescu what's wrong with "you can just post" [03:05]
asciilifeform box (or mail gate) that swallows signed ascii text. a la turdatron. [03:05]
mircea_popescu assbot: "Work sets you free" sign stolen: Dachau memorial robbed. <<< that thing gets stolen periodically. [03:07]
kakobrekla poppy.< i dunno if poppy is good or bad (imma guess bad) but the diff between word count and reading time is the diff between 'df' and df -h' [03:07]
mircea_popescu poppycock, ie, bad [03:07]
* asciilifeform wonders about the value of the pinched sign on the artcoin market [03:07]
kakobrekla yes totally bad to put it human companionable form [03:08]
kakobrekla sux beyond vacuum [03:08]
kakobrekla jesus autofail [03:08]
mircea_popescu cazalla: fivezerotwo wants 2 btc to stop lol <<< guy sounds a lot more like, he'd want to start above the grunt level, doesn't know how to ask but figures (correctly) that no matter how he'd ask he won't get it. [03:09]
kakobrekla comprehendable is what i meant? [03:09]
mircea_popescu comprehensible. [03:09]
kakobrekla see [03:09]
mircea_popescu like reprehensible, but with cunt instead of raep. [03:09]
mircea_popescu so reading this log, is trilema down or what. [03:10]
mike_c not down for me. [03:11]
kakobrekla no, bitbet is. [03:11]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxz8P7JA_Zo << re: 2btc [03:11]
mircea_popescu nubbins`: <@gmaxwell> nubbins`: blabla <<< how about we each do our part to keep idiocy cointained in -otc -dev and wherever else. [03:11]
kakobrekla my domain name slave is sleeping unfortunately [03:12]
kakobrekla and while i could call him up, eh. [03:12]
mircea_popescu what's the rush. [03:12]
mircea_popescu nubbins`: PinkPosixPXE don't knock .net, where else can you combine c-style code with visual basic in the same executable? :D <<< os/x ? [03:12]
punkman re: merkle tree - maybe in the future where we have 100 deeds per bundle, but it's already a hash tree so... [03:13]
asciilifeform 'We never pay any-one Dane-geld / No matter how trifling the cost; / For the end of that game is oppression and shame, / And the nation that pays it is lost!"' [03:13]
* punkman blows raspberry [03:14]
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kakobrekla ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com [03:14]
gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is up [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128200 @ 0.00073227 = 93.877 BTC [+] {8} [03:14]
mircea_popescu punkman fatswell is an expert at the wikigame. how to say words that appear like they have substance. [03:14]
ben_vulpes punkbot: status [03:18]
punkbot ben_vulpes: No pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 31 minutes ago [03:18]
ben_vulpes punkbot: balance [03:18]
punkbot ben_vulpes: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.0146 BTC (0.0 unconfirmed), enough for 132 more bundles. [03:18]
joecool !ping [03:18]
mircea_popescu scoopbot hello [03:18]
artifexd yes, someone requested to make a custom rss feed for []bot only for it not to be used << It will be. Just... not yet. [03:19]
kakobrekla oki [03:20]
asciilifeform https://blockchain.info/address/1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 << mega-lol. [03:22]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 [03:22]
* asciilifeform not surprised, expected precisely this. [03:22]
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ben_vulpes punkbot: help [03:27]
punkbot ben_vulpes: (help [ ] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands. [03:27]
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ben_vulpes punkbot: list [03:27]
ben_vulpes ... [03:27]
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punkman punkbot list deedsystem [03:28]
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mircea_popescu * asciilifeform not surprised, expected precisely this. << wouldja give a man a moment ? i gotta answer comments and whatnot! [03:38]
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asciilifeform lulzies [03:42]
punkbot [trust-update] | removed: fivezerotwo [03:45]
mircea_popescu !s from:nubbins` pastebin.com [03:46]
assbot 14 results for 'from:nubbins` pastebin.com' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Anubbins%60+pastebin.com [03:46]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#509702 [03:47]
assbot Logged on 17-02-2014 00:11:53; asciilifeform: "came to drakula two catholic monks, from the hungarian lands, pittances to collect. he ordered them brought apart, and called up one, pointed to the yard, where one could see many sat upon stakes, or on wheels broken. he did ask: 'was i just? and who are these people, sitting on stakes?' answered the monk, 'no, lord, you do evil, killing without mercy; a lord must be merciful. and tho [03:47]
asciilifeform ^ re: fl4m3w4r in mircea_popescu's comments [03:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you got a pointer to where you and nubbins` cut the book deal ? [03:48]
PinkPosixPXE more fivezerotwo garbage > http://dpaste.com/1QE0QRB [03:48]
assbot dpaste: 1QE0QRB: fivezerotwo 2014-11-03, by PinkPosixPXE [03:48]
punkman mircea_popescu: url bug fixed, and there's the trust-list notification [03:48]
mircea_popescu search is being unfriendly. [03:49]
PinkPosixPXE essentially the same crap [03:49]
mircea_popescu punkbot loveya. [03:49]
PinkPosixPXE that was from earlier, but same as the threats you guys are getting, just threw it out there [03:49]
PinkPosixPXE ok Pho, bbl! [03:49]
mircea_popescu enjoe. [03:49]
kakobrekla 15:31 these people have a world view that 99% of the populance are dumb morons < its not my fault :( [03:51]
mircea_popescu 99% of the populace actually are dumb morons. [03:52]
mircea_popescu it' [03:52]
mircea_popescu s not a worldview. [03:52]
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punkman kakobrekla: I have a gift for you [03:56]
punkman http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/from/kakobrekla/rss [03:56]
assbot deeds signed by kakobrekla [03:56]
kakobrekla nowai, mp takes those away from me [03:56]
ben_vulpes who will step forward to claim responsibility for taking the deed faucet booty? [04:00]
ben_vulpes has someone, and i failed to notice? [04:00]
PeterL I'm waiting for a bunch to be out there and then I am going to take them all at once [04:01]
punkman http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/from/nubbins%60 even nubbins` url works, success! [04:01]
assbot #bitcoin-assets deed registry [04:01]
BingoBoingo Maybe fivezerotwo waits a few years and he can scrape his ransom out of the deedbot bin? [04:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48500 @ 0.00073039 = 35.4239 BTC [-] {2} [04:02]
ben_vulpes punkman: what's the story with deed titles? [04:03]
BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7by9/new_bitcoin_deed_system_launches/cls7erz << someone missed the point [04:03]
assbot majorpaynei86 comments on New Bitcoin Deed System Launches [04:03]
ben_vulpes https://blockchain.info/address/1D4kG2YPA6WHnkVs57VJXsRkpEF2TNB6zP [04:03]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1D4kG2YPA6WHnkVs57VJXsRkpEF2TNB6zP [04:03]
punkman ben_vulpes, just add Deed_title: bla bla on a line [04:03]
punkman maybe I make that just Title: ? [04:04]
ben_vulpes "recordation" [04:04]
ben_vulpes yeeeeah [04:04]
ben_vulpes seems superfluous to me [04:04]
ben_vulpes plus, imposing a structure on deeds is questionable [04:04]
ben_vulpes punkman: ^^ [04:05]
* ben_vulpes goes back to permutating an api that the clients didn't want to document [04:05]
punkman someone asked for it at some point [04:05]
ben_vulpes my favorite part of software is telling clients "no". [04:06]
ben_vulpes for some reason saying no is harder in -assets. [04:06]
PeterL what happens if the document has more than one line with Title: on it? [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16695 @ 0.0007295 = 12.179 BTC [-] [04:06]
punkman PeterL: uses first match [04:07]
kakobrekla bitbet is on the new boxen. if there is an emergency you can edit your hosts or wait couple of hours. [04:10]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-foundation-finally-incorporated/ [04:10]
assbot The Bitcoin Foundation finally incorporated! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [04:10]
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ben_vulpes throw parseError("Don't fuck with me, assets") [04:10]
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ben_vulpes good god mircea_popescu [04:11]
mircea_popescu hm ? [04:12]
ben_vulpes don't *do* that [04:12]
mircea_popescu what! [04:12]
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* kakobrekla knew thats gonna happen [04:12]
punkman deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj << urovj , that deed hash [04:12]
ben_vulpes https://blockchain.info/address/1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 [04:12]
* kakobrekla guessed the sum. [04:12]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 [04:12]
mircea_popescu why not ?! [04:12]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla wd. punkman yeah lol i did a dbl take too. [04:12]
mircea_popescu i mean, it's fucking incredible, the guy's anagram? rly ?! but sig checked out so. [04:13]
mircea_popescu maybe we call him urovj from now on in memory of it. [04:14]
punkman vanity deeds! just append nonces until you get it [04:14]
kakobrekla ;;isup bitbet.us [04:14]
gribble bitbet.us is up [04:14]
kakobrekla now he stops.... [04:14]
kakobrekla meh [04:14]
mircea_popescu you don't understand how the world works kakobrekla [04:14]
kakobrekla clearly nobody does anymore [04:15]
kakobrekla ( i have been reading the logs) [04:15]
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mircea_popescu !up eightyeight [04:15]
-assbot- You voiced eightyeight for 30 minutes. [04:15]
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mircea_popescu the world is decentralised, so it no longer works! [04:15]
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mircea_popescu reddit << someone missed the point << yeah, tarddit continues to inhabit this delusion whereby what it thinks and understands matters and is important. for greater lulz! [04:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00073087 = 24.1918 BTC [+] [04:19]
mike_c not having a reddit account helps me resist the occasional urge to educate them. [04:20]
mircea_popescu works for me 2. [04:21]
kakobrekla meh i have put it back on the old box lol [04:21]
PeterL I never saw the appeal of reddit, it's like having all the inane comments from newspaper sites, but without the article to read [04:22]
mircea_popescu do newspaper sites still get comments anymore ? [04:22]
PeterL some do, but not anything useful as far as I've seen [04:22]
BingoBoingo do newspaper sites still get comments anymore ? << Haven't seen any on the local papers recently, seems to have moved to Topix mostly, aka reddit for the poorer and stupider [04:23]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla home | log | search | bash | stats | wiki << pls to insert deeds [04:23]
kakobrekla ah on ze mirror [04:24]
mircea_popescu o im in a bubble ?! [04:24]
mircea_popescu nm then [04:24]
kakobrekla no no that thing is hardcoded [04:25]
kakobrekla waits for my manual edit [04:25]
kakobrekla hold on [04:25]
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PeterL http://xkcd.com/481/ [04:26]
cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/boost-vc-close-6-6-million-in-funding/ [04:26]
* mircea_popescu tries to recall what boost supposedly did [04:27]
PeterL aha, here is the one I was actually looking for: http://xkcd.com/1385/ [04:27]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla listen, bitbetworks [04:27]
cazalla mircea_popescu, "incubate" startups like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA40yMept8c [04:27]
mircea_popescu wasn't it supposed not to work ?! wtf scam is this. [04:28]
kakobrekla yes we have a problem [04:28]
kakobrekla bitbetworks [04:28]
mircea_popescu reddit killed digg, one of the fastest growing tech startups at that time <<< ahahhhaha o gawd. [04:29]
kakobrekla log1 fixd [04:29]
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mircea_popescu "digg decided to shoot itself in the head with web2.0, and reddit was one of the places that allowed child porn back then so here we are, hear us roar!" [04:29]
mthreat Bariloche photo of the day: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/1522883_10105277724055560_3211410691125884834_o.jpg [04:29]
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mircea_popescu all hail the b-a explorer! [04:30]
kakobrekla now dont add anymore .ba services [04:30]
kakobrekla or else imma have to recode that header [04:30]
mircea_popescu why not! [04:30]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/boost-vc-close-6-6-million-in-funding/ [04:30]
mircea_popescu kik [04:30]
mthreat I can see why hitler came here after ww2 [04:30]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-foundation-finally-incorporated/ [04:30]
mike_c ;;rate PeterL 1 author of scoopbot [04:30]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PeterL has been recorded. [04:30]
mike_c nice to have that back. [04:31]
PeterL is checking every 5 minutes a good timeframe you think? [04:31]
mike_c sounds good. [04:31]
punkman PeterL: name of website is a bit redundant, also might be better with irc names instead of rss authors [04:32]
PeterL right now it is pulling the author from the rss feed, to get irc nick would be a bit trickier [04:33]
mike_c hard code it. you have to maintain the list of blogs anyway [04:34]
PeterL it is also pulling the site title from the feed, it is not my fault they don't have a more interesting name for thier blog [04:34]
kakobrekla author not in rss? [04:34]
kakobrekla what rss is that? [04:34]
punkman just thinking it might be silly when it eventually says "by admin" [04:34]
kakobrekla like a shitty one? [04:34]
PeterL yes, author is in rss, but author in rss feed does not match irc nick [04:35]
kakobrekla mike_c hardcode not worky. point is qntra has many contributors [04:35]
kakobrekla yeah well fuck them [04:35]
decimation seems like the logs have been ddos'ed [04:35]
PeterL I guess it could get the author from the rss, then compare it against a list of irc nicks? [04:36]
kakobrekla yea looks like it decimation [04:36]
PeterL and assbot stopped saying the names of linked pages [04:36]
kakobrekla yes thats what happens under ddos [04:36]
mike_c point is qntra has many contributors << derp. oh yeah. [04:37]
kakobrekla or else someone comes here, pastes a link he controls, gets the ip from behind cloak [04:37]
decimation I wonder if usg has attempted to jail someone for possessing a private rsa key that is directly linked with extortion? [04:37]
punkman http://i.imgur.com/AXiOs9q.png < are they telling me to go elsewhere? [04:38]
PeterL have there been private rsa keys linked to extortion? [04:38]
cazalla PeterL, shots fired! [04:38]
kakobrekla punkbot sell price be their bid [04:38]
PeterL who shot what? [04:39]
decimation cazella's linked pastebin strongly implied such [04:39]
decimation although to be fair, the link to the gpg key is a bit tenuous [04:39]
cazalla PeterL, this "they don't have a more interesting name for thier blog", do you know we took almost 2 days to pick the name [04:40]
PeterL I just mean the blog name is exactly the same as the url [04:40]
PeterL even has the .net [04:40]
cazalla if this was reddit, i would down vote you right now [04:41]
cazalla seriously though, i always like how penguirker did it [04:42]
PeterL which was just the link? [04:43]
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cazalla PeterL, it was like http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875299 but maybe others want more info, who knows [04:44]
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mircea_popescu hm so i was just notified by the reddit sec that there's no reddit police [04:45]
mircea_popescu and the reddit fbi confirmed. [04:45]
mircea_popescu i think we may have a case of http://www.watchcartoononline.com/cow-and-chicken-season-4-episode-4-mall-cop [04:45]
kakobrekla and reddit nsa denied the whole thing. [04:45]
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cazalla https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net does this means qntra dropped out of 200k? [04:46]
mircea_popescu is checking every 5 minutes a good timeframe you think? << yeah. [04:46]
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mircea_popescu seems like the logs have been ddos'ed << i see em ? [04:46]
BingoBoingo https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net does this means qntra dropped out of 200k? << Never went under 200k yet [04:46]
PeterL so the bitcoin foundation has an address, what do they do with the donated bitcoins? [04:47]
BingoBoingo cazalla: The rank is based on the last full month [04:47]
decimation ;;isitdown logs.bitcoin-assets.com [04:48]
ben_vulpes PinkPosixPXE: did the scriptkiddies getcher aws account? [04:48]
gribble logs.bitcoin-assets.com is down [04:48]
decimation ;;isitdown log.bitcoin-assets.com [04:48]
gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is down [04:48]
decimation ;;isitdown log1.bitcoin-assets.com [04:49]
gribble log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up [04:49]
mircea_popescu ahok [04:49]
mircea_popescu PeterL whatever they feel like, basically. [04:49]
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ben_vulpes buttcorns again, probably knowing the jackoffs involved. [04:49]
PeterL mircea_popescu: have they stated anything they feel like doing yet? [04:50]
mircea_popescu i vaguely remember trying to lure testers maybe ? [04:50]
decimation so after watching Stierlitz, I surfed the wikipedia describing the NASDP government intelligence 4th department http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo "According to Canadian historian Robert Gellately's analysis of the local offices established, the Gestapo was—for the most part—made up of bureaucrats and clerical workers who depended upon denunciations by citizens for their information.[78] Gellately argued that it was because of [04:51]
decimation the widespread willingness of Germans to inform on each other to the Gestapo that Germany between 1933 and 1945 was a prime example of panopticism." [04:51]
mircea_popescu lol i like cazalla's pastebin. [04:51]
mircea_popescu decimation this is factual. [04:52]
decimation so, really all you need to have a 'reign of terror' is to put a 'suggestion box' in front of the secret police office [04:52]
mircea_popescu all you need to have a reign of terror is to empower the bottom of the social hierarchy. it never fails. [04:53]
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mircea_popescu be it the peasants in russia, or the derps in nazi germany, whenever the "common man" is taken from under the foot and put on the table trouble soon follows. [04:53]
mircea_popescu the us worked just fine, and definitely better than the entire rest of the world, BEFORE extending the franchise. [04:53]
BingoBoingo !b 4 [04:54]
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decimation yeah, if the NASDP leadership weren't fucktards, they would have put more emphasis on actual intelligence rather than harassing idiots [04:54]
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decimation mircea_popescu: agreed. as I drive to work, I listen to that french revolution podcast, and they just covered the 'housewife army' that managed to dislodge Louis from Versailles [04:55]
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mircea_popescu whenever "joe said" is not automatically followed by "oh yea ? and who the fuck is joe ?" the situation is already in the handbasked and moments away from hell. [04:56]
PinkPosixPXE 19:46 #bitcoin-assets: <+ben_vulpes> PinkPosixPXE: did the scriptkiddies getcher aws account? << nope [04:56]
PinkPosixPXE :) [04:56]
PinkPosixPXE may be dropped about 10000 packets total, and did nothing as soon as I flipped my ip.. [04:57]
PinkPosixPXE perhaps they decided going after 1 person wasn't enough for their e-peen-inflation [04:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: incorporated << neato. now nubbins` can bake tshirts! [04:58]
mircea_popescu but everything here is one single person or another. [04:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol what, tshirts with the charter ? [04:58]
asciilifeform with sumthing. [04:58]
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kakobrekla how do tshirts help? [04:59]
asciilifeform idk, but 10 btc would buy a good fat crate'o'em [05:00]
mircea_popescu wait a seccond. is lawsky the reddit supernintendo or the actual supernintendo ? [05:00]
mircea_popescu have we been fooled ?! [05:00]
asciilifeform 'attacking #bitcoin-assets for their comments on reddit, assault against basic income, and other crap' << l0l!! [05:00]
asciilifeform there it is, 'basic income' again [05:00]
asciilifeform is that 'a thing' now? [05:00]
mircea_popescu what else do you suppose keeps approximately-washed middle aged boys in shared apartments with internet access ? [05:01]
asciilifeform i'd dearly love to know. where do i get some. [05:01]
* asciilifeform has to do all kinds of gnarly things for his 'b4s1c 1nc0m3' [05:02]
PinkPosixPXE I guess some idiots on reddit have to be scam trolls to get their daily income... [05:02]
PinkPosixPXE Then, didn't they like demand 2BTC ? [05:03]
kakobrekla idk, but 10 btc would buy a good fat crate'o'em < is this a protest of how unusable btc is to you or ? [05:03]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: iirc you invented a way of using [05:03]
kakobrekla wha? [05:04]
asciilifeform how long can one run a kakobrekla on 10 btc ? [05:04]
kakobrekla sadly i also need to convert to a more acceptable format [05:04]
kakobrekla still [05:05]
decimation asciilifeform: I recall that you were a proponent of 'guaranteed income' [05:05]
asciilifeform decimation: nah, more like guaranteed cloister [05:05]
cazalla ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install : [05:05]
kakobrekla asciilifeform and to answer your question, a few months [05:05]
mircea_popescu cazalla lol problem solved. [05:06]
asciilifeform kakobrekla is clean, environmentally-spiffy engine [05:06]
mike_c first off, ridicule! second, how do you run an iphone without itunes anyway? [05:06]
* kakobrekla has optimized his reoccurring costs quite a bit [05:06]
decimation asciilifeform: like, if you are unwilling to provide for yourself, the gov't will supply one small stone cell with three gruels per day? [05:06]
asciilifeform decimation: where i live, they sorta do this already, but gotta be aryan [05:07]
cazalla mike_c, what would i use ichunes with my iphone for? [05:07]
mike_c well i don't know what you'd use an iphone for at all. but i thought you needed itunes to install shit on it. [05:08]
asciilifeform mike_c: the current pNohe is entirely usable without a computer. [05:08]
cazalla mike_c, you can use the appstore and just upload your music, download pics via ftp provided it is broken [05:08]
mike_c i guess you can use an iphone to impress the other girls at the party. gotta get a cute cover for it though. [05:09]
decimation asciilifeform: in Stierlitz, is it some kind of inside joke when they go through the 'personnel file' of every high ranking Nazi and they all say exactly the same thing? [05:09]
asciilifeform decimation: aha. [05:09]
asciilifeform decimation: idea is, you can't play unless 'aryan, good nordic character' [05:10]
asciilifeform decimation: so clearly, if you're in the game, that's you. [05:10]
asciilifeform decimation: notice, 'baron von stierlitz' has the same in his file. [05:11]
decimation of course. I feel like I started halfway in though, they keep mentioning his earlier exploits with V weapons and I seem to have missed that [05:11]
cazalla mike_c, i thought it was the girls that like to impress with their phone, blinged up cases and all [05:12]
mike_c yes, the key to the joke was "the other girls" [05:12]
asciilifeform stone cell with three gruels << notice a peculiar fact about various 'advanced' bezzlatron nations where one can get a nice flat and three fine restaurant meals a day. but, for some reason, the occupants of said flats are not coughing up any great advances in sciences, arts. [05:13]
asciilifeform ergo, the sponsors are selective about who gets the cell and three gruels. in a very particular way. [05:13]
cazalla mike_c, matters not, sporting an old phone will just get you labelled as a hipster because the 3310 is vintage yo [05:14]
asciilifeform (only exception i know of re: 'not coughing up' was j. k. rowling, author of the children's book 'harry potter.' i wonder if they billed her for the pension retroactively...) [05:14]
mike_c certainly works in brooklyn [05:14]
asciilifeform i suppose ed limonov might be another exception. [05:15]
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decimation either those who are rich in bezzlars are sitting on their brilliant inventions or the method by which one comes to hold bezzlars has little to do with productive activity [05:16]
decimation of course, there is the 'george boole' problem, as you point out in the comments [05:16]
asciilifeform neh, the thread was, in some parts of the world one can get the 'three gruels and a cell', but very few of the folks subscribed have shat out anything worth talking about [05:16]
decimation asciilifeform: it is an odd fact that most 'upright' folks in the us would prefer to starve rather than depend on welfare, yet the same folks view their mortgage deductions as a birthright [05:20]
asciilifeform decimation: outside of usa, there are misconceptions. it isn't like anyone can just go and sign up for 'welfare.' [05:20]
asciilifeform if you aren't in the target demographics (not purely 'ethnic', but approximately for most purposes) it may as well be 'macarthur grant' or nobel, for all you'll ever see of it [05:21]
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BingoBoingo wait a seccond. is lawsky the reddit supernintendo or the actual supernintendo ? << scam, he's just one of those rpi based emulators made the chicoms [05:22]
mircea_popescu one can get a nice flat and three fine meals [...] not coughing up any great advances in arts. <<< yes, they are. [05:22]
mircea_popescu cocksucking's an art too you know. [05:22]
asciilifeform and afaik, most of 'homo redditicus' is not living from government pensions, but from relatives [05:22]
mircea_popescu and where do the relatives get it ? [05:22]
asciilifeform same place i get it. [05:23]
mircea_popescu from tax breaks to deferring of college debt, it's all a gift. [05:23]
BingoBoingo ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install : << sounds like a review in itself [05:23]
asciilifeform the tax breaks mostly subsidize playing in chumpatrons like real estate [05:23]
mircea_popescu now to the massive task of documenting this deedsbot thing. [05:24]
asciilifeform (e.g., the 2k i pay landlord is 100% tax-free income for him) [05:24]
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kakobrekla jebus 2k rent? [05:26]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: aha. [05:26]
kakobrekla srsly. [05:26]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: 'cheap' too. [05:26]
kakobrekla unserious [05:26]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Seriously plausible for a US coast. [05:27]
decimation yeah in ascii's area $2k for a house is cheap [05:27]
mike_c significantly cheaper than mine.. [05:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu has it right re: the massive bezzle gifts, but notice that these aren't really handouts to the plebes - they only get to touch the money and feel warm inside for a few seconds, then they have to give it directly to real estate chumpmeisters or college racket [05:27]
mircea_popescu well of course. [05:27]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla unlike europe, the us is very poorly developed. [05:28]
kakobrekla heh [05:28]
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mircea_popescu not even kidding. you know that thing where you can't walk for 50 miles without ending up in a town, nor 10 miles without crossing a road ? [05:28]
mircea_popescu well... they ain't got that. [05:28]
asciilifeform the 2k does not include other bezzles. e.g., auto, without which it is flatly impossible to buy edibles much less earn anything [05:29]
asciilifeform and various insurances. [05:29]
decimation asciilifeform: I added all this up once, and came to the conclusion that every single person in the washington DC area must have an income of >$100k [05:30]
decimation which didn't seem right [05:30]
mircea_popescu punkbot list deedsystem [05:30]
mircea_popescu what is this supposed to do ? [05:30]
asciilifeform decimation: every 'burgher' (see mircea_popescu's essay on the subject) - exactly right [05:30]
asciilifeform but there are several categories of inhabitant who don't need money at all [05:31]
asciilifeform unfortunately those categories are almost entirely membership-by-birth. [05:31]
decimation regarding birth, the ironic thing about wash dc is that the majority of these 'burghers' are holding gov't jobs, which are more-or-less sinecures for life [05:33]
decimation meanwhile they have kids, who also need to eat [05:34]
decimation those kids being the exact objects which the real estate/job-for-life chumpatrons must devour to sustain themselves [05:34]
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BingoBoingo not even kidding. you know that thing where you can't walk for 50 miles without ending up in a town, nor 10 miles without crossing a road ? << True story, did that. [05:50]
cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/commissioner-mark-wetjen-cftc-would-have-authority-to-bring-enforcement-actions-against/ [05:51]
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scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/commissioner-mark-wetjen-cftc-would-have-authority-to-bring-enforcement-actions-against/ [05:55]
cazalla beat you to it, scoopbot [05:55]
mircea_popescu o nice, scoopbot. [05:56]
BingoBoingo scooptbot request n00dz [05:56]
decimation lol so the wall street journal op-ed is where one makes usg policy now? [05:56]
BingoBoingo decimation: No, it's where USG policy used to be made [05:57]
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asciilifeform decimation: government jobs << in usa, everyone - at least, within a few steps of recursion - has a government job. [06:02]
asciilifeform (see the canonical piece by 'last psychiatrics' re: one town where this was demonstrable to the naked eye.) [06:02]
decimation yeah, in the wash dc area it's just a little flatter I guess [06:02]
asciilifeform that is, either works for usg, works for entity funded by usg, or works for a humble physical service (e.g. restaurant, plumber's shop) that is frequented by 1 and 2 [06:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41888 @ 0.00072794 = 30.492 BTC [-] {5} [06:03]
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asciilifeform if you're a potato monger in idaho - usg funded. [06:03]
asciilifeform even if you only sell for gold dubloons and have never heard of farm subsidy. [06:04]
decimation of course 99% of farmers prefer to receive usg electronic transfers directly to their accounts [06:05]
asciilifeform aha. [06:05]
asciilifeform but the point here is, the most humble tomato peddler at my local market - still usg funded. [06:05]
decimation yeah, this is true [06:05]
decimation for instance, he's still going to have to sell some gold to pay his land tax in dollars [06:05]
asciilifeform (it blew my mind the other week when i noticed that these were being paid, by many folks in the crowd, with... something quite like actual monopoly money. issued by the state, it turned out, 'vegetable food stamps.' presumably these are redeemable for usd in some dark cellar at city hall.) [06:06]
decimation that fellow who lived under a stump or whatever might claim to be somewhat independent, but really he's just taking advantage of usg's lack landlordship [06:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nope, they're not. [06:06]
decimation no ascii that's EBT [06:06]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ? [06:06]
mircea_popescu they're not redeemable for usd. [06:07]
asciilifeform wai wat [06:07]
asciilifeform what're they redeemable for? veggies at neighbouring tables? [06:07]
asciilifeform arse-mouth system? [06:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform tax receipts mostly. [06:07]
mircea_popescu you can't go plunk down a pile of em and get dollars in exchange. [06:07]
mircea_popescu you can't sell them to a guy down the street [06:07]
mircea_popescu etc. [06:07]
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mircea_popescu you recall when california paid its suppliers in ious [06:08]
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mircea_popescu then REFUSED to take the same in exchange for tax receipts ? [06:08]
mircea_popescu the only innovation there is refusing to take them in exchange for the only thing they used to be good for. [06:08]
decimation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo [06:08]
assbot Chapter Jackson - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Explicit) - YouTube [06:08]
asciilifeform ca should've been cut up and loaded onto slave ships long ago [06:09]
asciilifeform but in reality, the place is a miniature r&d laboratory for usg bezzlatronics. [06:09]
decimation mircea_popescu: I've heard it's common practice to buy 'qualified' goods and sell on ebay for usd [06:09]
mircea_popescu mebbe, i dunno [06:10]
asciilifeform aha like cc scammers. [06:10]
mircea_popescu punkman hey how does one download the bundle db ? [06:10]
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decimation http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-05/D9UV7NDO0.htm [06:15]
assbot Food stamp fraud raising concerns in gov't offices - BusinessWeek [06:15]
mircea_popescu 75 billion a year. [06:16]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/court-order-bfl-to-transfer-bitcoins-to-court/ << USG shorting augmented [06:16]
assbot Court Order: BFL to transfer Bitcoins to Court | Qntra.net [06:16]
mircea_popescu that comes to... brace yourselves... 250 bucks a year per capita. [06:17]
decimation on food stamps alone [06:17]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: misplaced a zero again? [06:17]
mircea_popescu about 1/4 ton tomato paste in bulk [06:17]
decimation there's also WIC http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/press-releases/2014/fifty-four-defendants-charged-in-18-million-wic-and-food-stamp-fraud-conspiracy [06:18]
assbot FBI — Fifty-Four Defendants Charged in $18 Million WIC and Food Stamp Fraud Conspiracy [06:18]
mircea_popescu decimation yeah the mob's making a killing with it. [06:18]
mircea_popescu i dunno why they keep playing it coy and oh, people. [06:18]
kakobrekla whats left in bfl, a few k btc? [06:19]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/court-order-bfl-to-transfer-bitcoins-to-court/ [06:19]
assbot Court Order: BFL to transfer Bitcoins to Court | Qntra.net [06:19]
joecool lol at the AKA's [06:19]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla doubtful anything's left, fgor a year now [06:19]
decimation I like how one arm of USG is threating anyone who has touched a bitcoin, while the other arm claims that they could not possibly investigate welfare fraud [06:20]
mircea_popescu welfare fraud is good. [06:20]
asciilifeform ' The order also gives the receiver authorization to convert the bitcoins "to cash on a systematic and reasoned basis."' << brace for waterfall. [06:20]
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kakobrekla i have enough of this waterboarding :p [06:21]
decimation well, welfare fraud definitely serves some purpose, otherwise usg would 'investigate' it [06:21]
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mircea_popescu decimation lemme illustrate the point with a humorous story. [06:23]
mircea_popescu http://www.27bslash6.com/massanutten.html [06:24]
assbot Massanutten. Water slides, mini-golf and bears. [06:24]
mircea_popescu the part where he says "Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority" [06:24]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-assets-deed-system/ [06:24]
assbot The #bitcoin-assets deed system pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [06:24]
mircea_popescu just as long as you agree to move your sustenance to stealing from the government, the government won. [06:24]
mircea_popescu you're still depending on it, whether you like it or not. [06:25]
mircea_popescu it doesn't care if you fight "for" or "against" it, just as long as your fight is ~about~ it. [06:25]
mircea_popescu on it goes. [06:25]
mircea_popescu there's a good reason http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ comes up with "ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" or w/e else. [06:25]
decimation lol I've stayed at massanutten [06:27]
* asciilifeform 'private key for the confirmatory transaction' << misread as 'the crematory transaction' [06:27]
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mircea_popescu lol [06:28]
decimation massanutten is kind of a weird retirement area/resort for the wash dc area [06:29]
decimation for people who are not creative enough to find a more amusing place to live than a hill in rural Virginia [06:30]
decimation lol "That looks like a dog with a blanket on it. I'm not going to waste anyones time sending an officer out to check that. " [06:31]
decimation this guy is strong with the art of troll [06:32]
asciilifeform "ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" << ignoring herr lysenko is best done from across an ocean. [06:33]
asciilifeform although even this no longer suffices. [06:33]
asciilifeform seems like they don't make oceans wide enough, any more. [06:33]
decimation so the anarcho-tyranny that 'upstanding citizens' complain about is really just two sides of the same customer service counter [06:34]
decimation the stick, for those who are willing to yield, the carrot for those who are willing to eat [06:35]
mircea_popescu right. [06:36]
mircea_popescu people generally are slaves. this holds true irrespective of what the fashionable slavegarb is at any point. [06:37]
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mircea_popescu "ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" << ignoring herr lysenko is best done from across an ocean. << the internet is an ocean. [06:42]
BingoBoingo Oh, we also beat coinfire to the BFL story [06:45]
BingoBoingo By about 20 minutes [06:45]
mircea_popescu wd! [06:46]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/529494297117487104 << Calling them out [06:47]
assbot Court in the /ButterflyLabs case has ordered for some of the co bitcoins to be moved to a court wallet & to be sold: https://t.co/7nxuZcdG7t [06:47]
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BingoBoingo Since we were firsted the link http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3955937 [06:52]
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BingoBoingo scoopbot request tits [06:58]
BingoBoingo Oh, the rms ordained distro has a new release https://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-70-lts-belenos [07:08]
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nubbins` ;;later tell asciilifeform do you have a preferred syntax highlighting style? we can make it match w/e [07:09]
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ben_vulpes more fivezerotwo garbage > http://dpaste.com/1QE0QRB << aaaahahaha [07:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00073222 = 10.6172 BTC [+] [07:21]
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cazalla so the horse i bet on in the melb cup, Admire Rakti, fkn died after the race, i picked that horse as the name remember me of Autumn Radtke who also died lol [07:25]
cazalla reminds me* such engrish [07:25]
BingoBoingo Damn [07:25]
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cazalla Autumn Radtke being the bitcoin CEO that jumped out of a building earlier in the year [07:26]
mircea_popescu cazalla "No small talk, huh? They shoot your horse?" "f there's any justice..." [07:27]
mircea_popescu anyway, seems to me it delivered exactly as advertised. [07:28]
cazalla i watched that the other night, not bad [07:28]
mircea_popescu i fucking love jon polito in that thing [07:28]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform lol what, tshirts with the charter ? << F9 BE B4 D9 [07:30]
cazalla andreas giving you the high hat or what [07:30]
ben_vulpes i'm seriously considering having it tattooed on myself [07:30]
mircea_popescu wait tattoo what ? [07:34]
ben_vulpes magic bytes [07:35]
ben_vulpes haven't decided if hex or actual binary yet tho [07:35]
mircea_popescu but wait. what ? [07:35]
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ben_vulpes bitcoin network message header bytes [07:36]
mircea_popescu oh oh oh. [07:36]
ben_vulpes F9BEB4D9 [07:36]
mircea_popescu meanwhile on redditland, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l8d86/so_you_want_to_donate_to_support_bitcoin_how/ [07:36]
assbot So you want to donate to support Bitcoin? How about donating to the real Bitcoin Foundation instead of Vessennes' scambox? : Bitcoin [07:36]
ben_vulpes i actually wanted that for the org url too [07:36]
mircea_popescu and ? taken ? [07:36]
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ben_vulpes nobody bought it [07:36]
ben_vulpes lol mircea_popescu's log fraud exposed [07:37]
ben_vulpes hey are you still giving away domains? [07:37]
ben_vulpes *elbow elbow* [07:37]
mircea_popescu wait wait what ? [07:37]
ben_vulpes hm i recall perhaps fraudulently that you were giving away domains at one point. [07:38]
mircea_popescu F9BEB4D9.com << it's registered actually. [07:38]
ben_vulpes f9beb4d9.org [07:39]
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ben_vulpes ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install : << i learned recently that 'app' name optimization is a thing that 'consultants' charge for. [07:40]
cazalla yeah, i've heard of appstore seo [07:40]
ben_vulpes it had its own hilarious acronym when introduced to me [07:41]
ben_vulpes oh yeah [07:41]
ben_vulpes ASO [07:41]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes okay, you got it. ns ? [07:41]
ben_vulpes app store optimization [07:41]
ben_vulpes wheeeee [07:41]
ben_vulpes jurov's donated hosting stuffs and wrapped in aws antiddos so i dun even know [07:42]
ben_vulpes ;;dig therealbitcoin.org [07:42]
gribble Error: "dig" is not a valid command. [07:42]
ben_vulpes ^^ wish that were a thing [07:42]
mircea_popescu dude you need to get better at wishlist maintenance. [07:42]
ben_vulpes thanks mircea_popescu that's a rad domain and i'm thrilled that we have it. [07:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00073222 = 21.0147 BTC [+] [07:43]
ben_vulpes dude i'm accustomed to my wish list not getting filled [07:43]
ben_vulpes "if the world were to against all reason smile upon my works" sort of attitude [07:43]
mircea_popescu ok ns copied from trb.org [07:43]
ben_vulpes so much gracias [07:44]
mircea_popescu somehow i doubt this will actually work, but anyway, ding me later with actual ns [07:44]
mircea_popescu if needed. [07:44]
ben_vulpes yeah will do [07:44]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell jurov see above s'il vous plait [07:44]
gribble The operation succeeded. [07:44]
ben_vulpes gratzi mille mircea_popescu [07:45]
mircea_popescu love. [07:45]
ben_vulpes (the domain is both meaningful and follows the rules of domain name selection: be unique in the first chars) [07:45]
ben_vulpes ^^ for lurkers. [07:45]
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cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/sir-richard-branson-discuss-bitcoin-at-next-months-g20-summit/ [07:48]
assbot Sir Richard Branson: "Discuss Bitcoin At Next Month's G20 Summit" | Qntra.net [07:48]
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mircea_popescu o look at the cute tiny netsplit [08:21]
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kakobrekla this time for real : if you see maintenance page on bitbet, flushdns [08:22]
mircea_popescu ლ(｀ー´ლ) aww that's cuter [08:23]
mircea_popescu ¯\_(⊙︿⊙)_/¯ << wow different ones ?! [08:23]
kakobrekla ye :) [08:23]
mircea_popescu ⊙﹏⊙ ahahh [08:23]
kakobrekla well i see traffic on both ends [08:24]
kakobrekla so wtf [08:24]
kakobrekla https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/bitbet.us [08:25]
assbot Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS? [08:25]
kakobrekla this thing sez its good [08:25]
kakobrekla > 185.56.137.194 is what you need [08:25]
mircea_popescu dude these are too fucking cute [08:26]
kakobrekla lol [08:26]
mircea_popescu i've been sitting here refreshing it and lulzing [08:26]
mircea_popescu fuck your new site, this is better. [08:26]
kakobrekla lol [08:26]
kakobrekla dont get banned now ;) [08:26]
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mircea_popescu "There undoubtedly needs to be work done to ensure that Bitcoin operates under a best practice regulatory regime." [08:30]
mircea_popescu derp. [08:30]
mircea_popescu not only this undoubtedly flies in the face of reason, but actually, it's bitcoin-illegal to "do work" [08:31]
kakobrekla lol [08:31]
mircea_popescu what other fucking undoubtedly do these people have ? global warming, right ? [08:33]
mircea_popescu o shit it's halloween isn't it ? [08:35]
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mircea_popescu lol oops. [08:38]
mircea_popescu wasn't this supposed to be like all big deal discount "largest sale night of the year" etc ? [08:38]
mircea_popescu or what, the failure of last years' taken the jam out of the marketeer's donut ? [08:39]
mircea_popescu in other news, check out the cool shit buried in time! http://trilema.com/2012/gene-wolfe-orson-scott-card-and-others/ [08:40]
assbot Gene Wolfe, Orson Scott Card, and others. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [08:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21139 @ 0.00073358 = 15.5071 BTC [+] {2} [08:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28211 @ 0.00073096 = 20.6211 BTC [-] [08:42]
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mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maP0CAhL_3k << chasing topless chicks [09:05]
assbot Topless Femen activists chased through Paris streets by riot police - YouTube [09:05]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Feb 2015 to drop under $70 before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1059/ Odds: 43(Y):57(N) by coin, 44(Y):56(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.43659622 BTC. Current weight: 77,351. [09:08]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [09:08]
gribble Current Blocks: 328468 | Current Difficulty: 3.598564026507623E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 328607 | Next Difficulty In: 139 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 20 hours, 27 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [09:08]
mircea_popescu totally fascinating this notion that nudity is somehow antipatriarchy. [09:09]
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kakobrekla light sweet crude oil ... totally wtf bet. 8.5 btc on it. [09:22]
kakobrekla O_o [09:22]
mircea_popescu why wtf ? wti is a big deal [09:22]
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kakobrekla is it eh? [09:23]
kakobrekla well apparently so, who am i to argue with bb [09:23]
kakobrekla anyway all seems in check, imma go [09:24]
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punkbot [trust-update] added: delta9 | removed: delta9 [09:46]
mircea_popescu punkman ^ ? [09:49]
mircea_popescu mebbe it should only report moves in assbot's l2 ? [09:49]
RagnarDanneskjol delta9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol [09:53]
assbot Tetrahydrocannabinol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [09:53]
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RagnarDanneskjol https://github.com/extempore/deedbundler/blob/367a7dd20b9ba4337c7c40b026706e09ee51c168/plugins/DeedSystem/plugin.py [09:55]
assbot deedbundler/plugin.py at 367a7dd20b9ba4337c7c40b026706e09ee51c168 · extempore/deedbundler · GitHub [09:55]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol huh ? [09:59]
RagnarDanneskjol i dont know why he chose delta9 other than reference to weed. there are 4 status updates that prompt the bot to speak: deed auth, deed bundle confirm, status/balance, and 'trust updates' [10:02]
mircea_popescu nah it also updates on changes in the trust db [10:03]
RagnarDanneskjol oh nice [10:03]
mircea_popescu so if one wants to spider a lot of sites and extract links, how would one go about that ? [10:06]
mircea_popescu i'm talking "put in this file all urls found on all pages of 1mn sites" sort of thing. [10:06]
RagnarDanneskjol ive seen a bunch of utils on git for this. I think this one does: https://github.com/sylvinus/node-crawler [10:09]
assbot sylvinus/node-crawler · GitHub [10:09]
RagnarDanneskjol search git fr crawler/spider and you'll find a lot of them [10:09]
mircea_popescu not much a problem of code. but anyway, anon benefactor sent me http://www.michaelnielsen.org/ddi/how-to-crawl-a-quarter-billion-webpages-in-40-hours/ [10:10]
assbot How to crawl a quarter billion webpages in 40 hours | DDI [10:10]
mircea_popescu "More precisely, I crawled 250,113,669 pages for just under 580 dollars in 39 hours and 25 minutes, using 20 Amazon EC2 machine instances." [10:10]
mircea_popescu i guess amazon is the way to go. [10:10]
RagnarDanneskjol whoa cool [10:11]
jurov whoa whoa.. things are moving quickly [10:13]
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scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/11/04/short-term-update-trade-idea-for-next-24-48-hrs/ [15:53]
scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/long-term-update-weekly-chart/ [15:53]
scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/10/18/offtopic-donations/ [15:53]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell peterl maybe ratelimit scoopbot ? 1/hr/domain or something ? also add update protection somehow ? otherwise the temptation to flood is too great. [15:55]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell enky srsly, "we love bitcoin" "comments are closed" and "don't send donations in BTC that coinbase can't process" on the same page ? what is this! [15:55]
gribble The operation succeeded. [15:55]
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mircea_popescu ;;rated fivezerotwo [15:56]
gribble You rated user fivezerotwo on Sat Oct 18 10:55:21 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: kinda derpy kid with a kinda derpy botnet.. [15:56]
mircea_popescu ;;unrate fivezerotwo [15:56]
gribble Successfully removed your rating for fivezerotwo. [15:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00073081 = 18.4164 BTC [+] [15:58]
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mircea_popescu mats_cd03 and who else was looking to donate to the btcf, http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-foundation-finally-incorporated/ [16:19]
assbot The Bitcoin Foundation finally incorporated! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [16:19]
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mircea_popescu !up BlackHatToolz [16:38]
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mircea_popescu !up Pierre_Rochard [16:41]
-assbot- You voiced Pierre_Rochard for 30 minutes. [16:41]
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Pierre_Rochard regarding http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2014#907929 [16:43]
assbot Logged on 03-11-2014 16:24:55; Pierre_Rochard: I’m writing up bitcoin accounting software, do y’all have any feature requests? https://github.com/NakamotoInstitute/pacioli [16:43]
Pierre_Rochard One thing I had in mind was Accounts Payable / Accounts Receivable integrated with GPG, WoT, and deedbot [16:43]
mircea_popescu now that is a good idea. [16:43]
Pierre_Rochard So that you send an encrypted/signed invoice to someone they’re accounting server imports it into their payables automatically, they approve it, payment goes out, everything is documented cryptographically [16:44]
mircea_popescu dude... [16:44]
Pierre_Rochard their* accounting server [16:44]
mircea_popescu if you actually get this to where it's usable i'd heart you so hard... [16:44]
Pierre_Rochard the meat of it is there, the financial reporting will be fairly polished within a week, and the IRC integration I think I could get functional by the end of the year [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14568 @ 0.00072988 = 10.6329 BTC [-] {2} [16:46]
mircea_popescu listen, pick your poison of people who have proven bot capabilities. Azelphur FabianB_ punkman peterl kakobrekla to name a few. [16:46]
mircea_popescu have them do it for you, shave 10 months out of that year [16:46]
Pierre_Rochard Ok, will do! I’ll write up the spec and pass it around [16:47]
mircea_popescu very exciting development. [16:48]
mircea_popescu ;;rated Pierre_Rochard [17:03]
gribble You rated user Pierre_Rochard on Sun Jun 1 10:33:16 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: CPA. [17:03]
mircea_popescu ;;rate Pierre_Rochard 2 I like how the man thinks. [17:03]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Pierre_Rochard has changed from 1 to 2. [17:03]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust Pierre_Rochard [17:03]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Pierre_Rochard!~Pierre@c-98-251-108-249.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 8 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014 [17:03]
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kakobrekla hm, its been like 8 hrs or smth and i had 1k bots with uniqe ip fetching 'action=register' on bitbet [17:11]
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mircea_popescu you don't understand how the action works. [17:11]
kakobrekla retarded wp bots. its not even wp site. [17:11]
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kakobrekla WP... what have you done to ze internet :( [17:12]
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mircea_popescu !up ryguyy [17:13]
-assbot- You voiced ryguyy for 30 minutes. [17:13]
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mircea_popescu ;;ud quist [17:21]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=quist | Quist. A street term for an organic fluid known as semen. The discharge of quist is called ejaculation. Bill Clinton: Hey bitch, open your mouth so I can quist in it. [17:21]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/1O/jx/4LAH7D5h/img20141104161626.jpg [17:22]
mircea_popescu reported for sapmming colofornia. [17:23]
bounce http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/4a35c0b2-636e-11e4-9a79-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3I7LRccwU [17:25]
assbot Tech groups aid terror, says UK spy chief - FT.com [17:25]
mircea_popescu terrorise all the techs! [17:26]
mircea_popescu Most internet users, he adds, “would be comfortable with a better and more sustainable relationship between the [intelligence] agencies and the tech companies”. <<< bwahahaha. [17:27]
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mircea_popescu and nine butch men in prison out of ten would be comfortable with probing Robert Hannigan bunghole. [17:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00072713 = 20.7959 BTC [-] [17:27]
ben_vulpes jurov: mircea_popescu. [17:32]
mircea_popescu ? [17:32]
ben_vulpes re derpy domain names and dns [17:33]
bounce http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/03/cody-wilson-of-3d-gun-and-ghost-gunner-f [17:33]
assbot Cody Wilson of 3D Gun and "Ghost Gunner" Fame Has His Companies Booted from Online Payment Processor Stripe - Hit & Run : Reason.com [17:33]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bingoboingo http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/03/cody-wilson-of-3d-gun-and-ghost-gunner-f [17:34]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:34]
assbot Cody Wilson of 3D Gun and "Ghost Gunner" Fame Has His Companies Booted from Online Payment Processor Stripe - Hit & Run : Reason.com [17:34]
bounce IMO that guy likes to troll gun control proponents, but even so, why do payment processors feel the need to pass moral judgement on their clients? [17:34]
mircea_popescu for the same reason all assholes are assholes : they seek approval of whatever group of idiots they mistook for cool and important. [17:36]
mircea_popescu punkman: ;;gettrust assbot delta9 <<< ah yeah you're right. [17:40]
mircea_popescu cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/coinero-project-seeks-150000-for-bitcoin-gift-cards/ <<< a better play is to publish the chat than just excerpts, otherwise you're open to accusations of cherry picking/out of context/etc. [17:43]
assbot Coinero Project Seeks £150,000 For Bitcoin Gift Cards | Qntra.net [17:43]
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mircea_popescu punkbot: [trust-update] added: #bitcoin-otc << wait, wut ?! [17:43]
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punkman there's a user named "#bitcoin-otc", I rated him to see what'd happen [17:44]
mircea_popescu o.O [17:44]
mircea_popescu what'd happen is thatit threw me for a loop, well done :p [17:45]
mircea_popescu and ahhh, lovely days of manageable logs! [17:45]
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nubbins` so there's a bylaw in this city that you're not allowed to build a deck on your rooftop [17:48]
nubbins` the house next door had a rooftop deck, and the owner is a notorious asshole slumlord, so i called the city on him [17:48]
nubbins` so he removes the deck from the side of the house, pulls it into the middle of the roof, and WALLS OFF THE ENTRANCE so the deck can't be removed [17:49]
mircea_popescu using da gobbinmint to hassle your competitors he ? [17:49]
nubbins` now it's just sitting there, rotting, waiting to blow over and kill me while i bbq [17:49]
nubbins` mircea_popescu natch [17:49]
nubbins` i get in touch with the city about this guy 3-4 times per year [17:50]
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mircea_popescu i have nfi how a city ends up with the notion it may make a bylaw about whether one can or can not build a deck. [17:50]
nubbins` me either. i'd love a rooftop deck [17:50]
mircea_popescu esp in fucking twodogs, canada. [17:51]
mircea_popescu do you people even get enough sun ? [17:51]
nubbins` heh. [17:51]
nubbins` the city has "heritage regulations" for the downtown core, it's a nightmare [17:51]
mircea_popescu oh, that stupid shit. [17:51]
nubbins` yeah. essentially, renovations are not allowed unless you keep your house in the style that was popular after the great fire in 1892 [17:52]
nubbins` seriously, they regulate the width of the trim you put around your windows [17:52]
nubbins` http://www.heritage.nf.ca/society/images/gower_st_600.jpg [17:53]
mircea_popescu this is such nonsense. i mean yeah, i can appreciate what they're trying to achieve : avoiding towns looking like the owners of property, who are by and large despicable lemmings and would make everything into a bauhaus atrocity. [17:53]
mircea_popescu but the notion that you can actually achieve this goal, just because it's noble, through making laws about it... [17:53]
mircea_popescu why not decide alberta is from now on 600ad byzantine style. [17:54]
bounce how many fires before you lot will start to build in stone? [17:54]
mircea_popescu just as appropriate. [17:54]
nubbins` well, the great thing about these bylaws is that people can be granted EXCEPTIONS [17:54]
* bounce idly plays with a lighter [17:54]
mircea_popescu nubbins` obviously. [17:54]
nubbins` so if you wave enough $$$, you can do w/e the fuck you want. build a condo in the battery, w/e [17:54]
mircea_popescu which is why i say it's stupid in the first place. [17:54]
nubbins` bounce a couple more [17:54]
mircea_popescu bounce you don't understand how the building works. if they used stone it'd sink into the ice. [17:55]
nubbins` ("what the fuck is the battery?" http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/66399979.jpg) [17:55]
bounce just add extra freezers to fix the perma in permafrost [17:55]
mircea_popescu that'd cause global cooling. [17:55]
mircea_popescu nah, the only solution is icecream housing. [17:56]
mircea_popescu nubbins` o look! people built houses for their secret goat paramours or ? [17:56]
nubbins` no secrets in the battery [17:57]
nubbins` half the roads aren't wide enough for cars [17:57]
bounce actually kinda weird. can't cool except move heat away and causing extra heat in the process [17:57]
mircea_popescu the only way to permanently cool is to enact a government-run heating process. [17:57]
nubbins` heh [17:58]
bounce you're saying government can defy the laws of thermodynamics? [17:58]
bounce IME it's mostly non-functional hot air, rather illustrating the point [17:58]
mircea_popescu bounce they would if they could! [17:59]
mircea_popescu i mean no, wait. [17:59]
bounce ... get a committee to agree [18:00]
mircea_popescu they can cuz they will! [18:00]
bounce no wai. jfk is dead [18:00]
mircea_popescu they could if they wailed ? [18:00]
bounce they wail but won't [18:00]
mircea_popescu the wontwail. [18:00]
nubbins` "the committee: it worked for C++" [18:01]
* nubbins` slaps thigh [18:01]
bounce anyway, so essentially anything you do causes entropy by waste heat. eventually heat death of the universe. but where does the energy to heat up come from? [18:01]
mircea_popescu nubbins` reported for inappropriate conduct in a business setting. [18:01]
nubbins` my own thigh!!! [18:02]
mircea_popescu AND condoning SLAVERY [18:02]
nubbins` i'm no ghomeshi [18:02]
mircea_popescu bounce the thing you do. [18:02]
bounce cats don't bitch [18:02]
mircea_popescu jurov but he's cuter as a little bitch [18:02]
bounce little bitch cooties [18:03]
mircea_popescu lol [18:03]
jurov lol [18:04]
bounce there's no search engine for sound bites, is there? [18:04]
mircea_popescu i think it's called nbc [18:04]
mircea_popescu The public broadcaster believes its ownership of the smartphone refutes the former radio star’s claim that he was fired because of how he conducted himself in his “private life.” “The contents of that phone belong to the CBC — it’s the CBC’s property,” said a source familiar with‎ the situation. [18:05]
mircea_popescu lesson to anyone anywhere : return your company provided gizmos, ask for a raise to compensate. today. [18:06]
bounce the IT dept. will thank you so much for having to deal with BYOD now [18:06]
mircea_popescu fuck them. [18:07]
mircea_popescu company wants to cya, company can pay more for everything. [18:07]
bounce this is something where you'd want multiple VMs on the phone. not just "profiles", but (near-)complete OS images to fulfill context-bound functions [18:07]
mircea_popescu why even bother ? own the phone, like any fucking artisan owns the tools of his trade. [18:08]
mircea_popescu how the fuck would a "personality" fall for this bullshit is beyond me. [18:08]
bounce even that needs lots of work. so far it's the telcos owning the thing. [18:08]
mircea_popescu well, not really. fat on the brain disease. [18:08]
mircea_popescu i never "bought" a rented phone so far. [18:09]
bounce even so, the OS is clearly geared toward catering for the expected owner, ie not you. [18:09]
mircea_popescu if it comes to it, go to zaire, buy phone there, come back, keep it in roaming. company can pay for airplane fare both ways, hotel stay, underage zaire hookers and the roaming fees. [18:09]
mircea_popescu bounce no os on phone. [18:09]
bounce of course some OS on phone. won't function without it. [18:10]
* mircea_popescu starts whittling [18:10]
nubbins` chefs buy and maintain their own knives [18:10]
mircea_popescu nubbins` chefs have more sense than these libtard wailchorus muppets. [18:11]
bounce and take them to and fro their work too. then run afoul of UK knive legislation. [18:11]
nubbins` well y'know. if messy ghomeshi had sense, he wouldn't be in the pickle hes in [18:11]
mircea_popescu “There’s nothing stopping the CBC from making a more fulsome disclosure,” he said. “They should be out there making their pitch about what a great organization they are, what their values are, what their processes are, what they’re going to do to ensure this doesn’t happen again, what proactive steps they’ve taken, their support for women in the workplace.” [18:11]
bounce I mean, biking to work with a backpack full of knives? totally terrist. [18:11]
mircea_popescu ^ how about gtfo, the "public" is not equal to the libtard media, and nobody is to be held at random by randoim fuckwits dictating "what to do" [18:11]
mircea_popescu jesus fuck. [18:12]
jurov https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=788476607859356&set=vb.212653428775013&type=2&theater << mute this immediately after opening [18:12]
nubbins` cbc is in a hard place these days. budget has been gutted by conservative govt's. they're less of a "great organization" with "values" every day [18:12]
mircea_popescu bounce there are reasons you can't have a decent meal in teh uk. [18:12]
ben_vulpes https://github.com/coddingtonbear/ircpdb [18:12]
nubbins` you're just as likely nowadays to see a headline about two neighbours arguing over a fence [18:12]
assbot coddingtonbear/ircpdb · GitHub [18:12]
bounce that was the case well before they passed loads of terrist legislation, though [18:12]
ben_vulpes 'cause that's not vulnerable to...stuff. [18:13]
mircea_popescu maybe we should buy cbc, make it all about "eat poor people" and "rape is a premier teaching tool" [18:13]
mircea_popescu see heads explode. [18:13]
bounce head-explodie broadcasting world wide [18:14]
mircea_popescu HEBWW! [18:14]
bounce not quite right, is it [18:14]
mircea_popescu almost sounds like a racial slur that's really ethnical. [18:14]
mircea_popescu nubbins` think i could build a deck on my cbc ? [18:14]
nubbins` jurov heh epic [18:14]
nubbins` mircea_popescu not in this town!!! [18:15]
nubbins` bbl sooper srs business meeting [18:15]
mircea_popescu build a deck on it! [18:15]
bounce needs airwolf for a corporate 'copter [18:16]
mircea_popescu someone should install a fighter jet carrier landing gear, complete with snap and everything. [18:17]
bounce the arrester wires aren't that much of a problem. it's the catapult that's a pain to maintain. [18:17]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQWc3KfQIFU <<< the *flploot* sound is priceless. [18:17]
assbot Jet Fighter Snaps Cable Landing on Aircraft Carrier.avi - YouTube [18:17]
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nubbins` businessing complete! [18:59]
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asciilifeform anyone on u.s. verizon fiber - your dns is being hijacked. [19:01]
mircea_popescu reddit police ? [19:02]
nubbins` heh [19:03]
nubbins` dat 8.8.8.8 [19:04]
nubbins` http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/11/02/ghomeshi-video-fans-sick-1996_n_6090862.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular&ir=Canada+Music [19:06]
assbot Jian Ghomeshi Sings 'All My Fans Make Me Sick' In 1996 Video [19:06]
nubbins` this is great, every less-than-admirable thing this guy has ever done is bubbling to the surface [19:06]
nubbins` the crash and burn will reach temperatures so high that not even soot will remain [19:06]
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assbot The Guardian's Dark Social Traffic Problem - Business Insider [19:10]
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nubbins` Dark traffic is vexing because web publishers like to be able to offer their advertisers solid data on the quality of their readers. [19:14]
The20YearIRCloud Is jian ghomeshi really that popular in Canada? [19:14]
nubbins` cry me a river a goddamn mile wide. also, fuck you, businessinsider.com, for inserting copyright notices into my clipboard [19:14]
nubbins` The20YearIRCloud not anymore 8) [19:14]
nubbins` for a while, he was a young breath of life in our creaky, aging public broadcaster [19:15]
The20YearIRCloud I'd never heard of him till this whole thing [19:15]
nubbins` well, you're not canadian :) [19:15]
nubbins` have you heard of pamela wallin? [19:15]
The20YearIRCloud Yeah, but i know some of your documentary stars like ricky, bubbles and julian [19:16]
nubbins` documentary stars? o.O [19:16]
The20YearIRCloud Yeah, that trailer park documentary tv show [19:16]
nubbins` ;;ud mockumentary [19:16]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mockumentary | ... of a documentary and pretends to be a documentary. A mock documentary. The mockumentary "This is Spinal Tap" documents the fictional band Spinal Tap. [19:16]
The20YearIRCloud kind of like here comes honey boo boo, but with weed [19:16]
The20YearIRCloud I loved that show too [19:16]
nubbins` incidentally, an actor on TPB alleged that ghomeshi assaulted her [19:16]
The20YearIRCloud Felt really bad for em though [19:17]
The20YearIRCloud Yeah, he's gonna get messed up once Ricky gets to him [19:17]
The20YearIRCloud he's shot people before over hurtin' lucy [19:17]
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PeterL ;;later tell bingoboingo if you want scoopbot to link to n00dz and tits, you just have to put them in your blog [19:17]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:17]
nubbins` just so we're clear, you know these people are actors? ;p [19:17]
The20YearIRCloud No they're not [19:17]
* nubbins` nods slowly [19:17]
nubbins` gotcha [19:17]
The20YearIRCloud people think they are, but they aren't, it says on the TV show itself that it's a documentary [19:17]
nubbins` ... [19:18]
The20YearIRCloud And TV wouldn't lie [19:18]
nubbins` oh you [19:18]
The20YearIRCloud Especially CANADIAN TV [19:18]
nubbins` incidentally, have you seen season 9 of tpb? [19:18]
The20YearIRCloud yes, i loved it [19:18]
The20YearIRCloud S8 was getting a bit wore out IMO, and S9 was fantastic [19:18]
nubbins` yeah, i like jacob's character [19:18]
nubbins` he's a pretty good new trevor [19:19]
The20YearIRCloud Yeah, they've developed him fantastically to replace trevor [19:19]
The20YearIRCloud Even better that Trinity is still the same girl :D [19:19]
nubbins` heh yep. [19:19]
nubbins` we actually published some of jacob's art last year [19:19]
The20YearIRCloud At any rate though, i'm shocked that Jian could get away with that stuff with Lucy due to her ranking in the RCAF [19:19]
The20YearIRCloud or whatever they term it up there [19:19]
nubbins` well i doubt she was an air force captain back then [19:20]
The20YearIRCloud Not as high ranking I believe, but she was mid level back then [19:20]
nubbins` https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.876287569063860.1073741827.307815925911030&type=1&l=96b7490ddb [19:21]
nubbins` the blue two-page spread in the bottom row is jacob's [19:21]
mats_cd03 jian didn't do anything wrong, which is why lucy doesn't matter [19:22]
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mats_cd03 'i sucked a dick ... to get outta there ... i didn't like it' -victims [19:24]
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mircea_popescu cry me a river a goddamn mile wide. also, fuck you, businessinsider.com, for inserting copyright notices into my clipboard <<< srsly. dark traffic is best traffic. [19:25]
nubbins` if you were a woman alone with a guy who just slammed you against a wall by your throat and punched you in the head, you'd probably suck his dick to get outta there too [19:25]
mircea_popescu not as wildly implausible as it sounds. [19:26]
nubbins` "fuck you, ghomeshi, i want to leave" followed by a "fuck me? FUCK YOU" and a throat-slitting probably didn't seem wildly implausible at the time, either [19:28]
mircea_popescu it's just this thing, a dude that's scared shitless ain't fucking anyone, [19:29]
mircea_popescu but a chick probably will. [19:29]
mircea_popescu kinda unobvious how this works for anyone that's not either a rapist or in law enforcement, which prolly fuels a lot of the "eh, she's just a slut" backlash. [19:30]
PeterL dude scared shitless becomes a chick? [19:30]
mircea_popescu essentially. [19:30]
nubbins` see: jail [19:31]
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nubbins` the pervasiveness of the "just a slut" line of thinking is a symptom of such a deep-rooted sickness in society that it's *almost* enough to make you feel pity for the people parroting it [19:33]
PeterL who actually says "just a slut"? [19:34]
nubbins` so, so, so many people. [19:34]
mircea_popescu eh get out, what sickess ? [19:34]
mircea_popescu it's normal, and absolutely healthy. [19:34]
mircea_popescu it just happens to also be wrong. [19:35]
nubbins` o.O [19:35]
nubbins` ;;dict expound [19:35]
gribble wn: expound v 1: add details, as to an account or idea; clarify the meaning of and discourse in a learned way, usually in writing; "She elaborated on the main ideas in her dissertation" [syn: {elaborate}, {lucubrate}, {expatiate}, {exposit}, {enlarge}, {flesh out}, {expand}, {expound}, {dilate}] [ant: {abbreviate}, {abridge}, {contract}, {cut}, {foreshorten}, {reduce}, {shorten}] 2: (1 more message) [19:35]
mircea_popescu what next, objects in mirrors being larger than they appear is also a symptom of deep rooted sickness ? [19:36]
mircea_popescu it's just a fringe effect of properly functioning vision. [19:36]
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nubbins` dat broken analogy [19:36]
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mircea_popescu go on ? [19:36]
nubbins` you're equating human behaviour to the physical properties of a curved surface [19:37]
mircea_popescu if i may, how objects appear is behaviour. [19:37]
nubbins` you may, but you'll need to stretch that dough out a bit further before i can see what sort of loaf you're making [19:38]
PeterL "raped girl appears to be slut" === "object in mirror is larger than it appears"? [19:38]
mircea_popescu matter of appearences being discussed in both, right ? [19:39]
mircea_popescu if it's broken, it's not broken for the reason he offered. [19:39]
nubbins` mirror's curved to make the driver more cautious [19:39]
mircea_popescu actually to give better field [19:40]
nubbins` er, wait, isn't it actually .. yeah [19:40]
mircea_popescu PeterL for canonicalness' sake, "object in mirror is larger than it appears" ; "raped girl is more virtuous than she appears". [19:40]
mircea_popescu anyway, on a more general note : be careful when you think you've found an incredibly deep rooted sickness. [19:41]
mircea_popescu usually, you're pulling on healthy tissue. [19:42]
nubbins` speaking of sickness, i visited the rijksmuseum this summer and they had "sicknesses" stuck up all over the collections [19:44]
PeterL so I should say "raped girl appears slutty" === "object in mirror appears small" [19:46]
mircea_popescu as in what, mirrors ? [19:46]
mircea_popescu PeterL cooking with gas. [19:46]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/svrGDDf [19:46]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [19:46]
mircea_popescu heh i see [19:47]
nubbins` 500yo prayer nut with a yellow sticky note next to it ;/ [19:47]
nubbins` but some of them were thought-provoking [19:47]
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mircea_popescu anyway, to close the previous : human sexuality is built out of transgression. that transgression connotes sexuality is unavoidable given this. obviously lots of dumb shit will grow on that fertile ground, such as rape, or the puritan church. large ship, lotsa barnacles. [19:50]
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nubbins` now there's something to chew on [19:58]
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scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/11/04/short-term-update-trade-idea-for-next-24-48-hrs/ [20:17]
scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/long-term-update-weekly-chart/ [20:17]
assbot Short Term Update: Trade idea for next 24-48 hrs | Bitcoin Trading Signals [20:17]
assbot Long Term Update: Weekly Chart | Bitcoin Trading Signals [20:17]
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PeterL so the bot was running fine, but then it says "killed", any idea why it would do that? [20:20]
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mircea_popescu got a kill signal ? [20:24]
PeterL why would it get a kill signal? [20:25]
ben_vulpes out of memory? [20:25]
ben_vulpes there are so many things that could have happened. [20:25]
PeterL hmm, not even sure where to start looking? [20:26]
ben_vulpes does it say "killed" in some kind of logs? were you running it in a terminal? [20:26]
ben_vulpes like... [20:26]
ben_vulpes man... [20:26]
PeterL I was running it in a terminal [20:26]
mircea_popescu so what do you do when you go to sleep ? [20:27]
ben_vulpes well step one figure out how to daemonize a processes on your operating system is [20:27]
ben_vulpes s/is// [20:27]
mircea_popescu nohup ? [20:27]
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mircea_popescu :D [20:27]
PeterL I had it running on nohup before, but it still dropped [20:28]
PeterL this time I was just watching it to see what would happen in a terminal [20:28]
mircea_popescu well so dig in logs see what sent it a sigterm or w/e it was [20:28]
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mircea_popescu and since we're on the topic : sigkill does not go to the kernel. it goes to... init! [20:30]
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scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/11/04/short-term-update-trade-idea-for-next-24-48-hrs/ [20:39]
scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/long-term-update-weekly-chart/ [20:39]
assbot Short Term Update: Trade idea for next 24-48 hrs | Bitcoin Trading Signals [20:39]
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scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/11/04/short-term-update-trade-idea-for-next-24-48-hrs/ [20:45]
scoopbot New post on Bitcoin Trading Signals by Enky: http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/long-term-update-weekly-chart/ [20:45]
assbot Short Term Update: Trade idea for next 24-48 hrs | Bitcoin Trading Signals [20:45]
assbot Long Term Update: Weekly Chart | Bitcoin Trading Signals [20:45]
mircea_popescu !down scoopbot [20:46]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell bingoboingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/31/atc-closing-statement/ << pls to insert deedlink ? [20:48]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:48]
assbot ATC Closing Statement | Bingo Blog [20:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17361 @ 0.00072952 = 12.6652 BTC [+] [21:04]
ben_vulpes i just read a claim that kind of astonishes me [21:05]
ben_vulpes "power law distributions are notable for having no stable mean, and infinite variance." [21:05]
ben_vulpes is this true? [21:05]
mircea_popescu ^ [21:05]
mircea_popescu yes. [21:05]
asciilifeform aha. [21:05]
mircea_popescu both of these being why they're such big fucking problems for human society. [21:05]
ben_vulpes well damn. [21:06]
ben_vulpes source: http://blog.hut8labs.com/coding-fast-and-slow.html?reddit [21:06]
assbot Coding, Fast and Slow: Developers and the Psychology of Overconfidence [21:06]
mircea_popescu as an aside : socialism, in mathematical terms, is defined as "don't you worry your pretty head, power laws don't exist" [21:06]
ben_vulpes better: http://blog.hut8labs.com/coding-fast-and-slow.html [21:06]
assbot Coding, Fast and Slow: Developers and the Psychology of Overconfidence [21:06]
mircea_popescu directly equivalent to "don't you worry your pretty head, the black holes won't devour your soul along with anything you ever touched." [21:07]
ben_vulpes because socialism assumes or posits a stable mean. [21:07]
mircea_popescu nah, manageable variance. [21:07]
mircea_popescu (well, variance = 0 in the degenerate case) [21:07]
mircea_popescu (infinite variance and undefinied mean are not in fact different mathematical realities, merely two perceptibles of the same one( [21:08]
mircea_popescu punkbot deed http://pastebin.com/Q58x7Zrm [21:11]
assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Bingo, Please send PC1's - Pastebin.com [21:11]
mircea_popescu hm. [21:11]
punkbot mircea_popescu: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. [21:11]
mircea_popescu o hey i used this! [21:11]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bingoboingo ^ [21:11]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:11]
mircea_popescu the mere fact that something so stupid as ;;later tell ^ reference actually works is testament to the incredible coolness of technologies deployed here. [21:12]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/mpif-fmpif-october-2014-statement/ << poor mpif. [21:13]
assbot MPIF (F.MPIF) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [21:13]
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ben_vulpes http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/11/03/eris-industries-leaks-week-1/ [21:15]
assbot Eris Industries Leaks – week 1 | Preston Byrne [21:15]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell peterl wouldja throw prestonbryne.com into the feeds? [21:15]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:15]
mircea_popescu s/There is no pre-sale. There are no tokens. /There is no pre-sale. There are no takers. / [21:16]
mircea_popescu my2c [21:17]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes now why would i want to read the "business vc" spam in the irc chat ? [21:18]
mircea_popescu im here to get away from the idiocy. [21:18]
ben_vulpes wth is enky's pricetalk doing in there then [21:19]
mircea_popescu srsly. [21:19]
mircea_popescu kinda how the bot got devoiced. [21:19]
mircea_popescu "let us announce that we're not reading anything but will be making software". tyvm, go to techcrunch already. [21:20]
ben_vulpes aight, aight. [21:20]
mircea_popescu no i must fume more! [21:20]
asciilifeform !s chukcha reader [21:20]
assbot 2 results for 'chukcha reader' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=chukcha+reader [21:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform and ironically enough this guy was already the recipient of a stuf and learn to read, bitch. but no, on he goes. "let me write software to improve girlfriends. oh, i've never had a girlfriend. but it's A SWINGER PARTY so it;'s all okaty right ?" [21:21]
mircea_popescu no dude. fucking swinger parties specifically boot young single males. because nobody wants them. boo hoo. [21:22]
mircea_popescu open source is for when you know how to code, not for when you can't find a job with any of the closed source sweatshops. [21:22]
mircea_popescu there should be a conviciton of forced labour @alcatel [21:23]
punkbot Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/15JE3s5a [21:23]
asciilifeform butugychag. [21:23]
mircea_popescu actually fuck that. there should be a draft. russian style, all males over 18 spend two years coding under the whip. [21:23]
mircea_popescu no human contact and once a week laundry. just like a grad dorm. [21:24]
asciilifeform that's quite like the school i went to. [21:24]
asciilifeform 'mortification of the flesh' via 'compilers 4xx' and 'operating systems 4xx' [21:25]
mircea_popescu "get out when you write a duke nukem in asm" [21:25]
asciilifeform not a factory of heroes by any measure, no. [21:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform heroes are the product of factories in the same sense weapon grade uranium is [21:27]
mircea_popescu the factories in question are called separation plants. [21:27]
mircea_popescu punkman could whitespace to the left of Recent bundles lines be used to include a truncated list of contributor names ? [21:27]
mircea_popescu s/left/otherleft/ [21:28]
asciilifeform in that sense, perhaps. but know that i left with the distinct impression that most of the folks standing for the final exam were masters of cribbing. [21:28]
mircea_popescu no final exams. time only. [21:29]
asciilifeform the proverbial roaches standing after the nukefest. [21:29]
mircea_popescu two years of having to wash toilets with toothbrush for having declared the pointers wrongly. [21:29]
ben_vulpes with that much meat standing around you could implement sexps in hardware again. [21:30]
mircea_popescu ins'allah. [21:31]
mircea_popescu actually this is starting to take shape in my head. the male obnoxious adolescent camps could be like 3-400 miles north of nubbins' deck. [21:32]
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mircea_popescu whereas the female obnoxious adolescent camps could be in a swamp. they may wear whatever they make themselves, gotta build swamphouses out of planks they make themselves and gotta spend 6 hours a day looking for pearls in the muck. [21:32]
mircea_popescu thenb they can spend the rest of the day making tiaras and other jewelries and selling them on etsy. [21:33]
punkbot Confirmed bundle 15JE3s5ar1R8NKMc2F5BJcexCpsg4S8nmm | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/15JE3s5a [21:34]
mircea_popescu i gotta say, this was one of the most satisfying fuming sessions in recent memory. [21:34]
asciilifeform they can spend the rest of the day making tiaras << aren't they already ? [21:37]
asciilifeform or 'tiaras' here in this gedankenexperiment are cock rings ? [21:37]
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mircea_popescu well, you will notice how my outrageous hell exactly describes actual reality. [21:38]
mircea_popescu kinda the point of the exercise. [21:38]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/31/atc-closing-statement/#comment-52635 [21:45]
assbot ATC Closing Statement | Bingo Blog [21:45]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo check out how motorized & mechanized we are nao hey! [21:46]
punkbot [trust-update] | removed: #bitcoin-otc [21:46]
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mircea_popescu punkman maybe also name names ? [trust-update] | punkman removed #bitcoin-otc ; blabla [21:46]
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punkman mircea_popescu: that'd be tricky [21:51]
mircea_popescu ah then nm [21:51]
punkman btw mpif bbet pending gain: 0.03 pot odds, 3.0 hanbot odds [21:51]
mircea_popescu im not sure what that meanz [21:52]
BingoBoingo Oh, this happened http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/11/04/172239/court-order-butterfly-labs-bitcoins-to-be-sold << Qntra [21:54]
assbot Court Order: Butterfly Labs Bitcoins To Be Sold - Slashdot [21:54]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: waterfall needs water. [21:54]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Indeed it does. Media needs audience too. [21:55]
BingoBoingo Historian need stone tablets too [21:55]
punkman mircea_popescu: that's how much BTC the unresolved bets are worth if pot-favored side wins or hanbot-favored side wins [21:55]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: how did you think usg would grab cheap coin that it could sell even cheaper? by praying? [21:56]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I see this as the USG telegraphing the rectotherm future [21:56]
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gernika gilgameshugga Ginux_ GNULinuxGuy go1111111 Graet gribble gsdgdfs GSpotAssassin Guest30431 Guest86613 Guest95123 guntha_ guruvan gustaf [22:09]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo wd! [22:09]
mircea_popescu im looking into getting it some mainstream media linkage too. [22:09]
BingoBoingo And to think first post was 33 days ago [22:10]
mircea_popescu bs paypal. [22:11]
mircea_popescu anyone wanna do a paypal payment for me ? [22:11]
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mike_c BingoBoingo: any indication of how many btc? [22:12]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Not in the court order. [22:12]
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mircea_popescu !up huseby [22:26]
-assbot- You voiced huseby for 30 minutes. [22:26]
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BingoBoingo https://blockchain.info/tx-index/3c32fb3a29c078a81c40b6d88865e87bd80229a03c75b4c51fc784c79f64e117 PC1 is closed [22:28]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction 3c32fb3a29c078a81c40b6d88865e87bd80229a03c75b4c51fc784c79f64e117 [22:28]
mircea_popescu totally got to get more pcs in that thing. [22:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52010 @ 0.00073032 = 37.9839 BTC [+] {3} [22:42]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/stripe-breaks-up-with-cody-wilson/ [22:43]
assbot Stripe Breaks Up With Cody Wilson | Qntra.net [22:43]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell cazalla the next quantcast qntra stats should be inspiring [22:45]
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diametric oh cody wilson. [22:54]
BingoBoingo Another story on him coming soon. [22:54]
rithm coming soon [22:55]
asciilifeform imho the bugger's a usg agent provocateur. [22:55]
diametric he's an attention whore, i've talked to him before. [22:55]
asciilifeform the end result of his work will be that the m16 trigger spring part is declared regulated by royal fiat [22:55]
diametric he comes into #reprap with various nicks promoting his shit [22:56]
rithm the trigger itself will be classified NFA [22:56]
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asciilifeform how do stories like this usually end? that is, some idiot screams, all day, every day 'loophole! here's a loophole!' [22:56]
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kakobrekla >2000 coinbase.com accounts in less than 2 weeks for a total of almost 17 BTC. [22:59]
kakobrekla ;;calc 17/2000 [22:59]
gribble 0.0085 [22:59]
kakobrekla eh? [22:59]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/cody-r-wilson-announces-candidacy-for-vessenes-bitcoin-foundations-board/ << Now he wants to feed Buterin's Waterfall [23:01]
assbot Cody R Wilson Announces Candidacy for Vessenes' Bitcoin Foundation's Board | Qntra.net [23:01]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/529739888674209794 [23:02]
assbot So much /Radomysisky news today http://t.co/rwy10OVjGp /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash /hashtag/ButerinsWaterfall?src=hash [23:03]
cazalla BingoBoingo, i only just woke up but i am euphoric because of quantcast [23:04]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: It won't show the interesting stuff for another 20 hours or so [23:05]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. [23:05]
cazalla jurov: and it would help to give the context what did you ask <<< i didn't get answers to my questions, we just talked about bitcoin a little [23:06]
BingoBoingo how do stories like this usually end? that is, some idiot screams, all day, every day 'loophole! here's a loophole!' << Depends on how well they obey their leash. But every now and then you get a Hal Turner. [23:06]
asciilifeform pediwikia b0rk3d ? [23:06]
asciilifeform or is my dns cache still poisoned. [23:07]
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cazalla jurov: cazalla what is inercia? <<< i'm just quoting the guy [23:08]
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BingoBoingo BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. << I guess I have homework now. [23:09]
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BingoBoingo Hal Turner, FBI crackpot magnet who got too into his schtick for his handler's liking http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/north_bergen_blogger_accused_o.html [23:10]
assbot North Bergen blogger accused of threatening federal judges is held without bail | NJ.com [23:10]
asciilifeform the age-old mistake of provocateurs - thinking their master's promises are to be kept [23:11]
asciilifeform 'but i didn't sign up to suck cok in the cellar for the whole battalion!' [23:11]
asciilifeform 'shuddup and oil the compressor' [23:12]
cazalla that guy got trolled so hard by 4chan [23:15]
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BingoBoingo Well, sometimes the handled has a longer lifespan than the handler expects. Like pet tortoises or parrots that get passed down by different generations, because why the fuck would they live longer than 7 sequential dogs. [23:16]
BingoBoingo !up johntraveller [23:16]
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cazalla mircea_popescu: cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/coinero-project-seeks-150000-for-bitcoin-gift-cards/ <<< a better play is to publish the chat than just excerpts, otherwise you're open to accusations of cherry picking/out of context/etc. <<< few too many last night, guy got snippy and well that is the result [23:17]
assbot Coinero Project Seeks £150,000 For Bitcoin Gift Cards | Qntra.net [23:17]
mircea_popescu yea [23:19]
johntraveller ;;eregister johntraveller 6C24 1224 C966 76FC CDDF 58A0 883D 1DD1 A66C 3321 [23:19]
gribble Error: '6C24' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. [23:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00072987 = 8.9774 BTC [-] [23:20]
johntraveller ;;eregister johntraveller 1985ABFE62E43615 [23:20]
gribble Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid. [23:20]
mircea_popescu he comes into #reprap with various nicks promoting his shit << actually ?! by hand ?! [23:20]
johntraveller ;;eregister johntraveller 883D1DD1A66C3321 [23:20]
gribble Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid. [23:21]
mircea_popescu !up bobmcmillan [23:21]
johntraveller damn [23:21]
-assbot- You voiced bobmcmillan for 30 minutes. [23:21]
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diametric mircea_popescu: in his earlier days, he also has some bots that come in from time to time to linkspam. [23:21]
mircea_popescu eh? << sounds exactly right. [23:21]
mircea_popescu and now thing they gotta do "kyc" for that. [23:21]
mircea_popescu people worth under a bitcent aren't even worth knowing. [23:21]
mircea_popescu !up johntraveller [23:22]
-assbot- You voiced johntraveller for another 30 minutes. [23:22]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. << yeah prolly not a bad blog idea. [23:23]
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mircea_popescu the age-old mistake of provocateurs - thinking their master's promises are to be kept <<< this, srsly. as all the various prettygirls are to soon find out, their choices aren't exactly what they thought they would be. [23:24]
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mircea_popescu johntraveller http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x6C241224C96676FCCDDF58A0883D1DD1A66C3321 << you're not seen yet. [23:26]
assbot No results found [23:26]
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mircea_popescu should take about an hour or so for the stuff to propagate, provided you sent it properly. [23:27]
cazalla anyway, i update that post with the log of our chat, i guess i was a little harsh but he would only give me fluff [23:27]
mircea_popescu !up Roeland_van_Vlaa [23:27]
-assbot- You voiced Roeland_van_Vlaa for 30 minutes. [23:27]
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johntraveller cheers, I just added myself - found the otc wiki instructions [23:27]
mircea_popescu ;;ident johntraveller [23:27]
gribble Nick 'johntraveller', with hostmask 'johntraveller!~isaac@5751fa19.skybroadband.com', is not identified. [23:27]
cazalla nubbins`: the city has "heritage regulations" for the downtown core, it's a nightmare <<< we have maintain the facade regulations in some parts of Melbourne, i like it tbh, it's the one part of town that looks nice [23:28]
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ben_vulpes johntraveller: where'd you hear about -assets? [23:33]
mircea_popescu "Turner wrote on his blog June 2 that three federal appeals judges "deserve to be killed" for their decision in a case involving ordinances banning handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park." [23:33]
mircea_popescu check it out, this constitutes a threat now. [23:33]
mircea_popescu maybe they really do deserve to be killed ? [23:33]
johntraveller ben_vulpes: xenosystems [23:33]
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ben_vulpes haha neat [23:34]
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johntraveller speaking of, I was reading mp’s critique of yarvin [23:34]
johntraveller your criticism was good but you picked two weak articles of his to nitpick [23:35]
mircea_popescu well whatever i happened to fall upon. [23:35]
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mircea_popescu johntraveller anyway, waht is that xenosystems thing ? and generally, explain for public benefit wtf this entire thing is, we lack an expert. [23:36]
johntraveller “this entire thing” = neoreaction? [23:37]
johntraveller so xenosystems is the blog of nick land [23:37]
mircea_popescu i have no idea. i guess so ? [23:37]
johntraveller ok I’ll give as accurate a condensed overview as I can [23:37]
mircea_popescu cool. [23:37]
johntraveller with the obvious caveat I’m describing a fiarly heteregenous group of people and ideas so my summary will contain my own bias [23:38]
mircea_popescu only lies are without bias. [23:38]
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-assbot- You voiced bitstein for 30 minutes. [23:38]
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johntraveller so moldbug/yarvin was a typical california libertarian who dropped a lot of acid [23:39]
johntraveller i believe hans-herman hoppe (classical lib who wrote an anti-democracy tract) turned him onto anti-democracy [23:39]
johntraveller so he started looking up other anti-dem sources, eventually came across carlyle, to a lesser extent froude [23:40]
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johntraveller http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/from-mises-to-carlyle-my-sick-journey.html [23:41]
assbot Unqualified Reservations: From Mises to Carlyle: my sick journey to the dark side of the force [23:41]
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mircea_popescu cazalla check out uptake en espanol : http://elbitcoin.org/banqueros-bitcoin-quiere-comerse-nuestro-almuerzo/ http://burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/burbuja-inmobiliaria/497459-hilo-oficial-del-bitcoin-vi-822.html etc [23:43]
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assbot Banqueros: ¡Bitcoin quiere comerse nuestro almuerzo! - Bitcoin en Español [23:43]
johntraveller http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2007/04/formalist-manifesto-originally-posted.html < and this is a good overview of moldbug’s post-libertarian framework. [23:43]
assbot Unqualified Reservations: A formalist manifesto [23:43]
johntraveller http://moldbuggery.blogspot.co.uk/ < here’s an archive [23:43]
assbot Moldbuggery [23:44]
bounce fighting with hald/dbus/udevd/*kit/systemd/whatever? [23:44]
mircea_popescu johntraveller okay. so basically it's this blogger and his commenters ? [23:45]
asciilifeform bounce: nope. box with 'nvidia optimus' demented chipset, fed to screen through 'intel i915', that won't initialize. [23:45]
mircea_popescu o look how cute, stan is gpu mining :D [23:46]
johntraveller http://akarlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dark-enlightenment-map-1-5.png < kinda. a bunch of pre-existing online communities started to find each other, and moldbug was a key node in that graph [23:46]
asciilifeform lol, if only [23:46]
bounce so trying to setup whatever it was named, piping intel->nvidia video? [23:46]
cazalla mircea_popescu, nice! here's to it continuing [23:46]
mircea_popescu johntraveller actually that thing was linked here previously. [23:46]
mircea_popescu !s http://akarlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dark-enlightenment-map-1-5.png [23:46]
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cazalla i wonder how they are finding qntra [23:46]
mircea_popescu meh i bet it was. [23:46]
asciilifeform bounce: http://pastebin.com/S6PzpMQ4 << blank screen. [23:47]
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mircea_popescu cazalla wink wink [23:47]
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asciilifeform bounce: line 108,109, 161 notable. [23:47]
mircea_popescu johntraveller i know because at the time i had my research follow the thing to try and ascertain wtf this is from outside. the response came out as most of hte nodes are either tiny or long abandoned blogs, and pretty much nothing stil active. [23:48]
asciilifeform bounce: i'm stuck with this machine in the field, and it gets 1 fps or so when running solely using 'intel' card switched on (which works) [23:48]
mircea_popescu (most of the blogs other than the pua stuff, that is) [23:48]
bounce no root or selinux being annoying or something? [23:48]
asciilifeform bounce: nope. [23:48]
* bounce hasn't fought with xorg in a long time. not impressed by that bunch though. [23:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you using nvidia's binary driver ? [23:50]
asciilifeform tried both the evil and the good one. [23:50]
mircea_popescu but did you purge the files in between tries ? [23:50]
asciilifeform yes. [23:51]
bounce looks like the nvidia part isn't the problem, but the intel part is. [23:51]
asciilifeform (classic mistake, yes) [23:51]
mircea_popescu remmeber, this is ubuntu, ie a linux implementation of windows [23:51]
johntraveller mircea_popescu: interesting. I would say the most active pre-existing groups (in order of size) were the manosphere guys, the HBD/white nationalist bloggers, the ‘orthosphere’ (a bunch of catholic bloggers), the lesswrong crowd [23:51]
asciilifeform gentoo. [23:51]
asciilifeform although arguably a box with the blog driver may as well be a winblows box [23:51]
mircea_popescu johntraveller isn't the lesswrong crowd flamingly libtard ? [23:51]
asciilifeform *blob [23:51]
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johntraveller mircea_popescu: yes. but there’s a fringe of right-wing people (who have been slowly leaving) [23:53]
mircea_popescu so basically "this" isn't really anything, is it ? random wave at a rave. [23:53]
bounce as a totally wild guess, could try and stop nvidia from modesetting so the intel thing gets to do it [23:54]
johntraveller mircea_popescu: prior to 2012, yes. but since about a year or two ago people have started to cluster around the ‘neoreactionary’ label. that image is the meta-community growing self-aware [23:54]
mircea_popescu jurov better a software tumor of the mailman than a malignant tumor of the sexware! [23:55]
johntraveller xenosystems, twitter and 8chan.co/duck are the main gathering places [23:55]
bounce googling gives a couple of instant brainrot inducing "solutions". man, freedesktop is bad for the brain and no mistake. [23:55]
mircea_popescu johntraveller which brings us to the next question. how do you distinguish this from the usual usg psyops ? astroturfing/trolling for pseudo-communities ? [23:55]
johntraveller mircea_popescu: oh very interesting question [23:56]
asciilifeform bounce: tried it and 1000 things [23:56]
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bounce alright, n'mind me then [23:56]
mircea_popescu johntraveller chan's kinda on the fence re moldbug. you can search for him to get the various discussions if you care. [23:56]
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cazalla kakobrekla: >2000 coinbase.com accounts in less than 2 weeks for a total of almost 17 BTC. <<< a lot of the accounts were empty from the sample bitcomsec provide [23:57]
johntraveller someone on HN claimed as such https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=75BCD67 [23:57]
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asciilifeform mr mold is a junkyard dog, with all that it entails. did not grow up with classical education, no latin, no greek. me neither. [23:58]
johntraveller I emailed the guy but he seemed massively tinfoil [23:58]
asciilifeform junkyard dog is doomed to eat what he can. [23:58]
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johntraveller asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah, I followed a bunch of the NRx guys for a long time as I hadn’t encountered anyone else saying the same things. but I got bored after a while, they clearly don’t have any plans or goals [23:59]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform everyone eats what they can. it's just that for a few that doesn't come out of a can. [23:59]
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johntraveller #bitcoin-assets, however... [23:59]
mircea_popescu we don't have a plan either. who the fuck needs plans when you got wmd. [23:59]
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