Forum logs for 03 Nov 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu bounce anyway, so stated our dispute boils down to me saying that it is upon you either to present an outside criteria or else yield. (which is why i assumed your criteria is presented, and summarized it as "pre digital"). my point generally is that you can't present any meaningful criteria anyway. [00:00]
mircea_popescu so, no, it's no longer a profession. it's dead as its own thing, no matter who does what to whom. [00:00]
mircea_popescu it wasn't so dead at some point in 1920, of course, but that only to us. i'm sure in 1920 some similar dispute raged, either about draughstmanship or some other sort of engraving. [00:01]
mircea_popescu professions die all the damned time. [00:01]
asciilifeform there is another 'secret' - and that is, that most folks who actually need 40+MP photographs in real life - astronomers, spies, biologists, weirdos like yours truly, etc. - own and operate own hardware. and don't actually need photographers. [00:01]
mircea_popescu nor are they professional. [00:02]
mircea_popescu just like the plumber using silicone curing isn't a silicone professional in any sense. [00:02]
bounce "criteria" is plural, by the by. my takeaway is that I'm running into a bunch of preconceptions that make the discussion quite meaningless, so I'll yield while disagreeing. [00:02]
asciilifeform aha. [00:02]
mircea_popescu bounce i'd much prefer you taking them apart. [00:03]
mircea_popescu the more violently the better, as a general rule. [00:03]
* mircea_popescu has a penchant for watching notions dieing a grizzly death in the field. [00:04]
jurov then...does any distiguished profession exist anymore? [00:05]
asciilifeform sometimes the death of a profession is not all smiles. i once saw a rant lamenting the invention of LaTeX as a terrible calamity for mathematics. argument was that, whereas it was once possible for mathematicians (and physicists) to remain entirely innocent of typograpy and its brute labours, now the typographers gave up and went home. and now you (maths folks) also are stuck being typographers - and generally, no [00:05]
mircea_popescu jurov writing still does im pretty sure. [00:05]
asciilifeform ... typographers - and generally, not particularly good ones. [00:06]
mircea_popescu generally the computer revolution has killed the outskirts and "empowered" the pure forms. [00:06]
mircea_popescu stans' being a fine example [00:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00077043 = 4.1603 BTC [-] [00:07]
asciilifeform pure forms? [00:07]
mircea_popescu yeah. pure forms. writing, words or numbers. but not drawing, either. [00:07]
mircea_popescu afore the computer each sort of drawing was its own profession, with its own tools. [00:07]
mircea_popescu today you just look for a fucking excel plugin [00:08]
* bounce always somewhat disliked TeX-typeset material. computer modern isn't a great look, even though each letter is shaped by whatwasit 60-odd parameters. [00:09]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [00:09]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 324.62, Best ask: 325.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.87000, Last trade: 325.47, 24 hour volume: 7928.02364239, 24 hour low: 318.24, 24 hour high: 329.0, 24 hour vwap: 323.561623927 [00:09]
mircea_popescu the "profession" of photography is not evolving towards going back to film cameras. it's evolving towards drone cameras. they find the right spot on their own, fly around, take a bunch of photos for you etc. [00:09]
jurov bounce i just did /font {times} [00:09]
jurov or sth like [00:09]
asciilifeform thing is, nobody forces you to use the default '80s crud font/layout [00:09]
asciilifeform but that is what the fate is of people herded into using the tool against their will - defaults everywhere and always. [00:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform conversely, the fault of people who think they can so misapply their will. [00:10]
mircea_popescu "really honey, you wanna fuck but don't wanna suck ? oh, and this is up to you, is it ? stfu and swallow it!" [00:11]
bounce nah, that's remolding the argument in a clash of wills when availability makes lazy. different mechanism. [00:11]
bounce people writing emails in word, or stuffing anything remotely looking like a table in excel, "because it's there" [00:12]
mircea_popescu "Medium format system cameras also have interchangeable backs, so you can switch between monochrome, colour and Polaroid film in seconds. In due course, you would switch to a digital sensor and leave it there." << here. [00:12]
mircea_popescu say what you will, there it is. [00:12]
asciilifeform don't miss the part where he described camera vendors waging war against their customers. [00:13]
mircea_popescu what vendor ever hasn't ? [00:13]
mircea_popescu guy in bar "i wanna piss on the ceiling" bartender "stfu and piss in the toilet, a toilet should be enough for all the pissing" [00:13]
bounce << "you must filter pirate stuff!" 'okay' "also you owe us royalties now" -- there's mustabeen a joke in here somewhere but it got stolen [00:17]
assbot Disney Patents a Piracy Free Search Engine | TorrentFreak [00:17]
bounce s/'s// [00:17]
mircea_popescu lawl wut [00:17]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo << i submit this is of qntra interest [00:17]
assbot Disney Patents a Piracy Free Search Engine | TorrentFreak [00:17]
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mircea_popescu "because is the official domain for The Walt Disney Company." << i have nfi how to put into words the idiocy of this [00:18]
mircea_popescu at least if they had made it it'd have been complete. [00:19]
mircea_popescu anyway, the open secret here is that google for many years has no longer used computers to compile its list, but merely links wikipedia facebook and some other friends to the top by default. [00:19]
mircea_popescu disney is butthurt that it doesn't make that list, but it definitely never will. [00:19]
jurov [00:19]
bounce disney does own though [00:20]
mircea_popescu that's a poor palliative. [00:20]
mircea_popescu "Digital photography today is another victim of the dead hand of marketing, where short term gain overrides any other concern. Broadly speaking, marketing has created two types of camera. There are those with small chips that are cheap – increasingly incorporated into a cell phone – have a rubbish lens, need no skill to operate and therefore teach the user nothing. And then there are those cameras with big chips th [00:21]
mircea_popescu at are so expensive that even professionals cringe. It’s like owning a jumbo jet: you can’t afford not to fly it, hence the constant references to workflow in the marketing. Alas, in between these two types we find the equivalent of a valence band or forbidden zone." << this has nothing to do with marketing. [00:21]
mircea_popescu this is absolutely the rule of the world. why do you think there's monkeys and humans, and nothing in between ? author ever heard of punctuated equilibrium ? [00:22]
mircea_popescu this is how things naturally evolve, and it also happens to be the right way. [00:22]
mircea_popescu computers have worked exactly that same way, too. there's people who cli and then there's the hopeless horde looking for the any key. there's nothing in between, nor should there be, and kids learning to "program for the web" aren't ever going to become professionals. [00:23]
mircea_popescu money works the same way, there's us and there's reddit, and there's no real path for the redditard to get in the wot. sure, he could, but as the article says, "The small chip camera owner cannot cross the forbidden zone for 30 BTC reasons, and even if he did, he wouldn’t have the necessary skills." [00:24]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Just dug up the filing. Working on a write up. [00:28]
mircea_popescu le cool. [00:28]
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BingoBoingo Reasonably deturdified filing offered by google [00:30]
assbot Patent US20120066203 - Online content ranking system based on authenticity metric values for web ... - Google Patents [00:30]
mircea_popescu lol the irony of this... [00:31]
BingoBoingo I know. [00:31]
BingoBoingo Sweet irony [00:31]
PeterL for deedbot, if you have multiple deeds waiting for confirmation, could you combine the transactions into a single bitcoin transaction? [00:31]
mircea_popescu that's how it works. [00:32]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: the only way to change it is to bury it in a sea of "jeez, i guess i was wrong" and subsequent self improvement. << a good point. [00:32]
PeterL I know they get bundled, but it sounds like you have to wait for one bundle's bitcoin transaction to confirm before sending the next transaction? [00:33]
mircea_popescu assbot: Jeffrey Robinson, Author & Journalist << oh he's the clueless idiot with yet another "bitcoin book" that's neither a book nor about bitcoin. [00:34]
mircea_popescu scammers these days... [00:34]
mircea_popescu PeterL ah that, yeah. [00:34]
mircea_popescu the reason is that once you broadcast a tx, you no longer have control of it. [00:34]
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mircea_popescu if you bundle its contents with later material you have constructed two competing txn, one of which will be introduced. [00:34]
PeterL yeah, so once you send the first transaction you have to let it be, but could bundles 2 and 3 be put on a single bitcoin transaction once 1 confirms? [00:35]
mircea_popescu prolly. [00:36]
mircea_popescu i don't think it makes a bundle 3. [00:36]
PeterL ah, so it keeps adding to bundle 2 until bundle 1 confirms? [00:36]
punkman yeah [00:36]
PeterL ok, nevermind then [00:37]
punkman up to 64 [00:37]
PeterL 64 what, deeds per bundle? [00:37]
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mircea_popescu !up orkaa [00:38]
-assbot- You voiced orkaa for 30 minutes. [00:38]
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mircea_popescu punkman how do you broadcast currently ? [00:38]
punkman mircea_popescu: through electrum [00:39]
mircea_popescu then let it be, dubious adding more complexity will do anything. [00:39]
punkman yeah let's see if it works for more than 2 days this time [00:39]
mircea_popescu in other news, bows! [00:40]
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mircea_popescu :) [00:45]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla [00:52]
assbot BitBet (S.BBET) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [00:52]
mircea_popescu <<< aaaaaaaaand the reciprocating engine. [00:56]
hanbot lol [00:57]
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punkbot punkman: No valid deeds found, try again. (untrusted: 1) [01:12]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin $817 or above before Christmas" Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.66076514 BTC. Current weight: 49,528. [01:23]
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punkman BingoBoingo: apparently you are BingoBoingo in one database and bingoboingo in the other [01:33]
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punkman nanotube: shouldn't names match between GPG.db and RatingSystem.db? [01:39]
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mircea_popescu punkman what happens should one try to register mirceA_Popescu ? [01:40]
punkman dun think that'll work [01:40]
punkman current trust list: [01:41]
assbot dpaste: 3WM49E7 [01:41]
thestringpuller punkman: they might be out of sync [01:42]
joecool wat is this list and why am I on it? [01:43]
punkman ;;gettrust assbot joecool [01:43]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask joecool!~joecool@no-sources/joecool. Trust relationship from user assbot to user joecool: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Thu Apr 28 14:23:15 2011 [01:43]
nanotube punkman: they should match plus or minus capitalization, at least. [01:44]
joecool oh hey nano, been forever how are you? [01:44]
mircea_popescu !s joecool [01:45]
assbot 1080 results for 'joecool' : [01:45]
bounce probably should follow irc nick equivalency rules, no? [01:45]
mircea_popescu you're on all sorts of lists :D [01:45]
joecool mircea_popescu: good to know, still popular I guess [01:46]
punkman nanotube: any chance I could get current irc hostmask via ? [01:47]
mircea_popescu << reddit at its best : libertard/socialist astroturfing. [01:49]
assbot The Basic Income Community on Reddit [01:49]
joecool because /r/welfare got banned [01:50]
thestringpuller "what if instead of using that money for my needs I just stay at bobs house and buy the heroin while he pays for the house and we pool for food" [01:50]
mircea_popescu "Could someone point me to any good arguments AGAINST basic income?" [01:51]
mircea_popescu because "fuck you" is apparently not good enough now o.O [01:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00077232 = 4.5567 BTC [+] [01:51]
thestringpuller joecool: why did /r/welfare get banned? [01:52]
thestringpuller also i've always been meaning to ask this. is your name a reference to snoopy? [01:52]
mircea_popescu "Yes, but that's a common problem with ANY "socialist" measure to help workers, whether it be minimum wage or full blown communism, or anything in between. Global capitalism is a race to the bottom. If we keep playing that game, I see nothing but a dystopian future of neofuedalism and a regression to gilded age economic policies." [01:53]
joecool i really don't know what my name is a reference to, i've been using it so long now it just stuck [01:53]
mircea_popescu check it out, schmuckland gets it :D [01:53]
asciilifeform dafuq is 'basic income' ? [01:53]
mircea_popescu of fucking course. [01:53]
joecool and no clue on why it got banned, it just is [01:53]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "get money to pay for anything you might want for free" [01:53]
asciilifeform and what happens to price? [01:53]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you don't understand how the idiots work,. [01:54]
asciilifeform i often wonder what take #2 would be like, if they understood what happens to price (e.g., usa with credit and 'college loans', etc) [01:55]
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punkbot punkman: No pending deeds | Last bundle 3 hours and 4 minutes ago [01:56]
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asciilifeform the idiots << nuance here. if i have soldering iron up my arse, i might utter something more than the 'moo' of a cow that has soldering iron up her arse. but the fact remains that having hot iron up arse - is not pleasant. [01:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what would the 2nd step be of a broom processing a program, if the broom were capable of processing programs ? [01:56]
asciilifeform likewise, both idiot and normal person understand that something evil is at work underneath the cost of modern life being what it is re: the bezzle. [01:57]
mircea_popescu perhaps. [01:57]
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asciilifeform and know that the idiot is emboldened by the fact of the non-idiot not having any more effective, immediately, an answer than he. [01:59]
mircea_popescu ;;google cocksure full of doubt [02:01]
gribble The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the ...: ; Stupidity - Wikiquote: ; Bertrand Russell - Positive Atheism: [02:01]
asciilifeform aha. [02:01]
mircea_popescu idiot's always felt emboldened by his purely political, stupideological decision that the effective, immediate answer of the intelligent "don't exist". [02:02]
mircea_popescu why should he get in the wot ? shit's hard yo. [02:02]
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nanotube howdy joecool :) [02:05]
nanotube punkman: nope, that data isn't stored in the gpg database. [02:05]
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jurov << turdatron functional and described here, except for actual database dump [02:06]
mircea_popescu eee [02:07]
punkman .deed [02:08]
punkbot punkman: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) [02:08]
punkman jurov, guessing that linkifies plaintext URLs [02:09]
punkman would pass otherwise [02:10]
jurov i did not foresee this use for the archives [02:10]
punkbot Bundled 1 deed | [02:10]
assbot Bundle 1JxhUigL | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [02:10]
ben_vulpes the "profession" of photography is not evolving towards going back to film cameras. it's evolving towards drone cameras. they find the right spot on their own, fly around, take a bunch of photos for you etc. << the "red" cameras are another interesting evolution here. by my limited understanding 'filmmakers' are in the habit of blanketing the scene with them and then making zooms/pans/dolly actions happen in post [02:11]
mircea_popescu jurov considering deeding is cheap, why not. [02:11]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yup. it's what drove my comment. [02:11]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: dude RED camera's are so annoying and pervasive. [02:11]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: like seriously get a fucking dolly or steadicam. [02:12]
mircea_popescu leaving this here because im sure i'll find a reference for it later. [02:12]
ben_vulpes thestringpuller: why bother? [02:12]
thestringpuller shit like that pisses me off so much [02:12]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller why ? [02:12]
thestringpuller Because it's not film making anymore. [02:13]
punkman why do you think people with RED cameras don't use steadicams? [02:13]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller srsly, this sounds to me exactly like bounce 's objection coming from a different ego investment. [02:13]
cazalla mircea_popescu: <<< poor rakim got done for rape, kidnap, sodomy [02:14]
assbot Rakim Malik Dupriest Mugshot - Rakim Malik Dupriest Arrest - Marion County, OR [02:14]
mircea_popescu cazalla happens to the best o' em. [02:14]
ben_vulpes good ol marion county [02:15]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: so what do you think about Orson Welles? Yea it's cool you can get a RED camera and press the easy button, warranted it makes shit cheaper. But it's a cheap replacement for "the real thing" [02:15]
ben_vulpes there's no easy button. [02:15]
ben_vulpes you just move the work into post. [02:15]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller well it all depends on what the real thing is. [02:15]
ben_vulpes instead of dolly operators, you have an editor who knows that a dolly move would be most appropriate for a given shot. [02:15]
mircea_popescu are the current wives marrying all sfondate not real wives ? [02:16]
thestringpuller "genuine camera movement" [02:16]
mircea_popescu ;;google Sfondami tutta [02:16]
gribble Porngif6 on Twitter: " ...: ; Eurobabeindex - Jenny Simpson: ; Eurobabeindex - Karen: [02:16]
cazalla no news today but that money2020 event is on [02:17]
thestringpuller maybe when the day comes when what actually is recorded vs. what you would simulate in post, are reconciled. (i.e. someone recording every atom in a scene), then sure. [02:17]
ben_vulpes bang bang maxwell's silver demon [02:17]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller honestly, i'm not in a position to manage the workflow. i'll go with whatever the director wants to use. it's his film not mine. [02:18]
thestringpuller ^- which is appreciatory! I wish more producers had this attitude. [02:20]
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assbot Police allow car break-ins to become a Seattle growth industry | Local News | The Seattle Times [02:25]
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punkbot Confirmed bundle 1JxhUigL4ffuM6mVEhEFBCueeaV3kQAvd5 | [02:27]
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mircea_popescu anyone seen The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai ? [02:28]
mircea_popescu this may actually be the worst film of all time. [02:28]
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assbot Scientists Have Discovered an Activity Just as Pleasurable as Sex, Drugs and Gambling - Mic [02:41]
punkman lolstudy [02:42]
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thestringpuller ;;ident [02:48]
gribble Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None [02:48]
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mircea_popescu who was asking me about curtis recently ? [03:03]
mircea_popescu !s moldbug [03:03]
assbot 76 results for 'moldbug' : [03:03]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell johntraveller here you go, i finally found a better article on the topic : [03:04]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:04]
assbot “Why I am not a white nationalist” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [03:04]
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mircea_popescu no news today but that money2020 event is on << so publish the qntra shares list. [03:08]
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cazalla i thought i was waiting on you to do that with the data i emailed [03:08]
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mircea_popescu cazalla nah, publish that [03:09]
mircea_popescu (and since the deed is up, deedify it too) [03:09]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: how do shares get disbursed? [03:10]
mircea_popescu ppl who have mpex accts get them added there. people who don't have to contact jurov, get them on coinbr [03:10]
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thestringpuller they'll be disbursed before or on the 4th of each month? [03:11]
thestringpuller (based on IPO contract) [03:11]
cazalla mircea_popescu, post word count or shares, i was waiting for you to publish for the later [03:12]
mircea_popescu cazalla word count, ima make a report like for s.mpoe referencing it. [03:12]
cazalla kk [03:12]
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punkbot cazalla: No valid deeds found, try again. [03:25]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement | [03:25]
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decimation << Alan Cox: "Fed up of SystemD ? Kdbus the final straw ? Linux community too large and noisy ? Yearn for the good old days when you knew every contributor by name and the source code fitted on a single floppy disc ?" [03:37]
assbot EtchedPixels/FUZIX · GitHub [03:37]
mircea_popescu decimation let me guess, no wot. [03:39]
decimation I'm not sure if he's serious [03:40]
decimation it seems like a port of minix to the z80 kinda [03:40]
punkman it's for microcontrollers [03:41]
punkbot Bundled 1 deed | [03:41]
assbot Bundle 1L2XKKL2 | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [03:41]
thestringpuller a lot of things on github are jokes [03:41]
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decimation << speaking of github tardation [03:44]
assbot Please remove mitsuhiko/* · Issue #127 · tip4commit/tip4commit · GitHub [03:44]
decimation apparently people working for some guy's "open source project" started getting paid in bitcoin [03:45]
decimation he was royally pissed, because the IRS and because it's not nice [03:45]
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mircea_popescu eh... [03:46]
mircea_popescu wut ? [03:46]
decimation yeah exactly [03:46]
decimation weeding through the comments, I get the picture that this tip4commit guy (arsenische) started 'tipping' people for commits to open source projects [03:47]
decimation then began 'fund-raising' for the project without talking to the 'maintainers' [03:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6605 @ 0.00076942 = 5.082 BTC [-] {2} [03:53]
kakobrekla < is this the first time they dont miss bitbet ? [03:54]
assbot BitBet, Fairlay, BetMoose: Meet Bitcoin’s Prediction Markets [03:54]
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BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Maybe they commented out their Fuck you Bitbet line in their article generation code? [03:56]
kakobrekla prolly just a bug. [03:57]
punkbot Confirmed bundle 1L2XKKL25eCrcGBycJyMN26oicCDWJ9J4x | [03:59]
assbot Bundle 1L2XKKL2 | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00076877 = 8.5333 BTC [-] [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00076813 = 7.4509 BTC [-] {2} [04:03]
mircea_popescu in todays heretic tales, using bechamel sauce as a base for pizza instead of tomato sauce works fucking great. [04:03]
mircea_popescu this arsenische name is familiar. [04:04]
mircea_popescu ;;google arsenische [04:04]
gribble View the profile of arsenische - Bitcoin Forum: ; [WTS] Steam Games for Bitcoins! ( [NOW WITH ...: ; [Announce] now has a referral program: [04:04]
mircea_popescu <<< sure enough [04:05]
assbot [ANN] - support opensource projects, contribute and earn bitcoins [04:05]
mircea_popescu "We are being criticized for unsolicited email spam. [04:05]
mircea_popescu Just to clear the things out: we do not spam and never intended to. Perhaps in the early days of the project we sent out disturbing notifications about microdonations, but that was fixed long ago, just see the algorithm here: [04:05]
mircea_popescu We send emails only to public email addresses of contributors who received tips for their contribution and only when ALL of the following conditions are met:" [04:05]
assbot tip4commit/tip.rb at master · tip4commit/tip4commit · GitHub [04:05]
mircea_popescu also runs a scammy "ads" site, which basiclaly sells botted traffic [04:07]
mircea_popescu "Thanks for your message. Someone generated too much traffic to our main site. I think it is fixed now. Ad rotation not affected." sorta thing [04:07]
decimation yeah I have no truck with this guy [04:08]
decimation I just find it amusing that people recoil in horror at being gifted some bitcents [04:08]
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mircea_popescu cazalla [04:11]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [04:11]
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mircea_popescu decimation they prolly got a buncha spam [04:11]
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mircea_popescu !up bettycla1p [04:11]
-assbot- You voiced bettycla1p for 30 minutes. [04:11]
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kakobrekla [04:13]
assbot BitBet (S.BBET) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [04:13]
mircea_popescu side A : side B : [04:14]
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decimation speaking of scamming Indians, this story is mildly amusing: [04:14]
assbot Job brokers steal wages and entrap Indian tech workers in US | US news | The Guardian [04:15]
decimation bonded servitude is alive and well in the us [04:15]
mircea_popescu something in me suspects the only objection is that indians do it to other indians, instead of the proper way (us folk doing it) [04:15]
decimation yeah apparently they even have an indian high-power lawyer to cover the whole thing [04:16]
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mircea_popescu seeing how in most cases this "people's rights" thing is used in the manner of liberating hawaii from its queen : to soften up the structure. [04:16]
decimation and the most likely people to sell you into servitude are: your fellow kin [04:16]
mircea_popescu well who else. [04:17]
mircea_popescu i suppose a bunch of armenian chicks got sold by the turks, but still [04:17]
mircea_popescu punkbot deed [04:17]
punkbot mircea_popescu: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) [04:17]
assbot BitBet (S.BBET) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [04:17]
mircea_popescu punkbot deed [04:18]
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assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 BitBet (S.BBET) October 2014 S - [04:18]
mircea_popescu ha! [04:18]
mircea_popescu i did one, i did one [04:18]
decimation quote the meat: "These students at one of southern India’s oldest universities described the irresistible draw of landing a technology job in the US – even if it means signing a contract promising to pay off a bond if they quit. Most acknowledged that is the price they expect to pay to pursue their dreams." [04:18]
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decimation From the perspective of living in India, making $25k sounds awesome ... until you move to the us and you want to eat [04:19]
mircea_popescu yup [04:19]
mircea_popescu and you discover that unlike india, the us is a third world country [04:20]
decimation one of the reasons for this: the us has no legal system, unlike singapore [04:21]
assbot Singapore’s Ban on Gay Male Sex Is Upheld by Top Court - Bloomberg [04:21]
mircea_popescu o.O [04:21]
mircea_popescu what the fuck sense does that make., [04:22]
mircea_popescu o wait, isn't this the shithole where it's illegal to chew gum ? [04:22]
decimation "“Whilst we understand the deeply held personal feelings of the appellants, there’s nothing that this court can do to assist them,” the judges wrote in their ruling. “Their remedy lies, if at all, in the legislative sphere.” " [04:22]
decimation well, they have a point there [04:22]
decimation you can chew, just don't spit it out on the ground... [04:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14551 @ 0.00076795 = 11.1744 BTC [-] {2} [04:23]
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mircea_popescu ah, forbidden to import, [04:25]
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mircea_popescu k. [04:25]
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mircea_popescu "The law, known as Section 377A, was retained in 2007 after a two-day debate in parliament where related provisions that made heterosexual oral and anal sex a crime were repealed." [04:26]
mircea_popescu wbahahaha. so i can fuck a chick in the ass, just, gay dude can't fuck another gay dude ? lol. [04:27]
decimation cause it's the law you see [04:27]
mircea_popescu decimation no, i appreciate your point, sg sc didn't start legislating out of the blue. [04:28]
decimation in the us that's exactly what would/has happened, on a variety of fronts [04:29]
mircea_popescu well, the us also has an unrepresentative congress. [04:29]
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mircea_popescu singapore is tiny [04:29]
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decimation that's true [04:29]
decimation it's fair to say that the 'nexus' of sovereignty in the us is the supreme court, by default. congress and the elected executives refuse to deal with simmering issues, so they tend to end up in the court [04:31]
cazalla but i poop from there.. don't see the appeal tbh [04:33]
decimation lol here's a blog from some guy who was offended by the scammer tip4commit guy, but he vents his hatred at ... bitcoin [04:34]
assbot The Future of Payments and Open Source Support | Armin Ronacher's Thoughts and Writings [04:34]
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decimation libertard/socialist types definitely detect that bitcoin menaces them, but they rarely come up with the right words to describe the threat [04:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47324 @ 0.00076595 = 36.2478 BTC [-] {7} [04:42]
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punkbot Confirmed bundle 18jURUQoTx9DaqAndnwvrfyriZgVkJyD3b | [04:46]
assbot Bundle 18jURUQo | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [04:46]
mircea_popescu decimation o look at that, world wants to "opt in" or "opt out" of bitcoin. [04:46]
mircea_popescu heh. [04:46]
mircea_popescu this delusion of choice is perhaps the most amusing part of the fiat world. he only sucks the cock if he wants to, you see. [04:47]
decimation yeah you see, he "doesn't care" about bitcoin, and beside how is he going to have his pension benefits for life? [04:47]
mircea_popescu "Tip me via gittip." having nothing to do with any of this, obviously. [04:48]
mircea_popescu i like how people can't quite bring themselves to come out with it plain, "i'm invested in this thing bitcoin is gonna kill so...!!!" [04:48]
decimation no, but this 'tardation does suggestion something amusing: you could easily destroy most open source projects simply by paying a competent coder or two to fork it and rebuild it rationally [04:49]
mircea_popescu decimation kinda what we're trying recently. [04:49]
decimation hehe yeah [04:49]
mircea_popescu pretty much everytihng that happens here is the blueprint for large swaths of future, [04:49]
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mircea_popescu it's just you know, when in history have contemporary cowlets realise what's what. [04:49]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, [04:50]
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cazalla there is nothing much else going on today so no complaints! [05:07]
assbot Bitcoin Startups May Get Transitional Licence | [05:07]
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mircea_popescu "Supernintendo Benjamin Lawsky" [05:09]
mircea_popescu lol apt. [05:09]
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cazalla is this bs? "Bitcoin Brothers is working with TSMC to manufacture its proprietary 3D 16nm FinFET ASICs" [05:17]
assbot Bitcoin Brothers Aim To Disrupt Bitcoin Mining With New, More Powerful, Supercomputers | TechCrunch [05:17]
mircea_popescu hard to judge. 90% of new miners are scams. [05:18]
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mircea_popescu so it's a safe if not ironclad assumption [05:18]
mircea_popescu heh, "hosted bitcoin mining services", moar like 99% [05:18]
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kakobrekla >Our Bitcoin supercomputers with a quasi-opportunistic massively parallel computing model for job scheduling establish a new exascale class - well beyond FLOPS and MIPS [05:20]
kakobrekla eh? [05:20]
decimation lol [05:20]
decimation if that's from their copy, then that nudges the probability of scam up a few orders of magnitude [05:21]
mircea_popescu lmao [05:21]
mircea_popescu the shit techcrunch will publish these days seriously... [05:21]
mircea_popescu it's embarassing. [05:22]
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mircea_popescu s/camwhore/quasi-opportunistic parallel meta-slut/ [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00076201 = 11.5064 BTC [-] {2} [05:23]
decimation at any rate, I think some of the miners that have delivered were working on 20 nm stuff [05:23]
decimation so it's highly dubious that a 16nm process is going to be massively better [05:23]
thestringpuller ;;later tell nubbins` did the poster ship okay? it never crossed over the border ~_~ [05:23]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:23]
mircea_popescu decimation nah, the gains are likely to come from bettere design not from better substrate going forward [05:25]
mircea_popescu heck, even intel pretty much scrapped the smaller-print plans [05:25]
decimation agreed. who knows about the existing designs, but I doubt that massive gains are available there either (more than 10x) [05:26]
mircea_popescu i would expect so. [05:26]
mircea_popescu they're currently the product of basically copy paste. [05:26]
mircea_popescu less money has gone into design than into production, imagine that. with stable silicon producers it's more like, 99% goes into design [05:26]
decimation heh I bet they are implementations of the original gpu mining code [05:26]
mircea_popescu mostly. [05:27]
kakobrekla nah [05:27]
mircea_popescu in any case time shall tell. [05:28]
kakobrekla firstly sha cant be endlessly optimized and my educated guess, better than sexy gingers, is that its pretty much as good as it will get [05:28]
thestringpuller [05:28]
decimation at any rate, I don't think we will see "steps" like we saw from gpu to asic, for example [05:29]
mircea_popescu lol [05:29]
kakobrekla fury already spent some years on this [05:29]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla didn't fury appear in 2013 ? [05:29]
kakobrekla no [05:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19578 @ 0.00076083 = 14.8955 BTC [-] {2} [05:30]
kakobrekla [05:30]
assbot Home :: BitFury [05:30]
mircea_popescu << their first thing. [05:30]
assbot BitBet - BitFury's ASIC WILL WORK WITH POWER < 1 W / GH/s :: 158.3 B (56%) on Yes, 125.9 B (44%) on No | closed 1 year 5 months ago [05:30]
mircea_popescu one year, fgice months ago. [05:30]
kakobrekla at this point he already spent 1year + on this [05:30]
* mircea_popescu shrugs. [05:30]
mircea_popescu i spent 30+ years on being me too. [05:31]
kakobrekla first unrolled design on spartan [05:31]
kakobrekla and the only one. [05:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.0007583 = 18.5025 BTC [-] [05:31]
mircea_popescu that was a fpga neh ? [05:31]
kakobrekla did liek 350 mhash on spartan when others were doing 200 [05:31]
kakobrekla yes, but the math is the same [05:31]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla i can appreciate this view. nevertheless, from a businessman persepective, the people who don't give a shit, it's one year, five months. [05:32]
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mircea_popescu that's not much. looks like plenty of room is left. [05:32]
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kakobrekla unless you improve the math how sha is calculated, not really [05:32]
mircea_popescu mebbe so. [05:33]
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mircea_popescu << turns out i had a spare twitter lmao. [05:35]
assbot Mircea Popescu (@trilema) on Twitter [05:35]
joecool oh not unsuspended yet? [05:38]
joecool lame [05:38]
mircea_popescu twitter is kinda lame. [05:39]
joecool true [05:39]
mircea_popescu << lmao check out all the windoze toolz! [05:42]
assbot BlackHat Toolz - Black Hat Marketing Scripts / Software [05:42]
punkbot Bundled 1 deed | [05:46]
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punkbot Confirmed bundle 1NBs7kqrsNbofzqZAxyNivigmyCNXpoVr7 | [06:01]
ben_vulpes do hearn and andresen have wot profiles? [06:01]
ben_vulpes ;;gettrust assbot gmaxwell [06:03]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user gmaxwell: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 4 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Mon Jul 25 13:49:45 2011 [06:03]
ben_vulpes ;;seen fluffypony [06:11]
gribble fluffypony was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 38 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: looks like it's been moderately approved [06:11]
ben_vulpes !up Vexual [06:11]
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Vexual any press expected at aregntina abril? [06:17]
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ben_vulpes fuck press [06:20]
ben_vulpes unless its happening to grapes [06:20]
Vexual what about steadicam tat? [06:20]
Vexual ah the pleasure of the vine [06:21]
ben_vulpes the phundation might commission thestringpuller to run around with a red cam [06:21]
ben_vulpes ;;gettrust gavinandresen [06:23]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user gavinandresen: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Mon Mar 28 12:32:28 2011 [06:23]
fluffypony You called? [06:26]
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fluffypony lol [06:27]
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fluffypony LA was such a shit experience [06:27]
fluffypony The restaurants were phenomenal, everything else was overhyped [06:27]
Vexual what else do you want? [06:28]
fluffypony Beauty [06:28]
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BingoBoingo Oh. punkbot no longer has if bingo then fuck you code [06:55]
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ben_vulpes fluffypony: beauty? los angeles? [07:04]
ben_vulpes you must be out of your mind. [07:04]
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asciilifeform kakobrekla: first unrolled design on spartan... and the only one << wait which 'spartan' actually had room for unrolled sha2 ? [07:18]
* asciilifeform refrains from launching into rant re: how you can actually fit 10x more gates in fpga if you start 'cheating' by using secret data re: the internal layout, and how any system which offers this capability is actually telling lies when advertised with its highest-level intended abstractions as the correct ones. [07:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00073341 = 23.6158 BTC [-] {2} [07:20]
kakobrekla XC6SXL150 [07:22]
asciilifeform aha [07:22]
BingoBoingo Old mining conversation: [07:31]
assbot BitcoinStats [07:31]
asciilifeform snore. [07:32]
BingoBoingo Well, old. From the days where scrypt was to many the anti-GPU pill, and delivered BTC ASIC were about a year away [07:34]
ben_vulpes decimation kinda what we're trying recently. << oh hey we're paying people nao? who's this "we" and hey jurov what's the story on an addy, eh? [07:34]
asciilifeform ^^^ [07:34]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: << lol! reminiscent of your grenade proposal [07:36]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform's looking for his rocket [07:36]
* asciilifeform doubts we have anything larger than a toy rocket here in this box [07:36]
asciilifeform anyone who wants to ride that - is welcome to... [07:37]
ben_vulpes *pfhsheeeeew* [07:37]
ben_vulpes ah, estes. [07:37]
* ben_vulpes was working on the big engine handling license for a bit [07:37]
* asciilifeform reads the logs and finds the very pertinent unix-on-z80 atrocity [07:38]
asciilifeform yes, no shortage of folks willing to ride toy rocket. [07:39]
ben_vulpes interesting thing about toy rockets [07:39]
ben_vulpes build your own exotica, be exempt from licensensing. [07:39]
ben_vulpes derp [07:39]
ben_vulpes licensing* [07:39]
ben_vulpes buy exotica via mail order - must have license for such. [07:40]
asciilifeform afaik in usa one can even fly an airplane, below (100? kg) in mass, without license [07:40]
ben_vulpes this is similar to the canadian firearms protocol, where when during the process of acquisition they ask one to [07:40]
ben_vulpes "please list all people with whom you cohabitated or were in a relationship for the last two years so that we can ask them if you're going to go shoot them" [07:40]
ben_vulpes nevermind that the sane person will never answer that question in a way useful to the questioner. [07:41]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: speaking of rockets and small arms, familiar with american invention, 'gyrojet' ? [07:44]
asciilifeform tiny rocket, ejected from what amounts to a flare pistol - goes through, e.g., a truck [07:45]
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ben_vulpes vaguely [07:53]
ben_vulpes more interested in mems systems [07:54]
ben_vulpes <- hipster [07:54]
asciilifeform eh this was a vietnam-era mechanical thing. [07:54]
ben_vulpes micro elecro mechanical systems systems [07:54]
ben_vulpes i want mems-controlled aero surfaces in my projectiles [07:54]
ben_vulpes i am a child of my time [07:55]
asciilifeform there's a 'golden toilet' vendor claiming to be churning out the proverbial 'bullet that goes around corners' on precisely this principle [07:55]
* asciilifeform not involved with this [07:55]
ben_vulpes i find it hard to believe that corners can be turned with the control forces effected by mems systems [07:57]
asciilifeform depends on radius of turn [07:57]
asciilifeform (picture a 'question mark' shape. easy to keep turn radius wide if there is room) [07:57]
ben_vulpes corners attractive to purchasers in urban combat are unrealistic [07:58]
ben_vulpes trajectory tweaks for ballistics or sniper action, though... [08:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 20000 @ 0.00011 = 2.2 BTC [+] [08:12]
mircea_popescu Level 2: 0 via 1 connections lol da fuck does that work [08:13]
mircea_popescu Beauty << looking for beauty in la ? what, like on the street ?! you want beauty, go to burbank. [08:14]
BingoBoingo .status [08:18]
punkbot BingoBoingo: 2 pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 31 minutes ago [08:18]
mircea_popescu nevermind that the sane person will never answer that question in a way useful to the questioner. << yeah but then if they get in an altercation with that person later not answering usefully usually makes the difference between a dismissed case and a felony convicion. [08:18]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: speaking of rockets and small arms, familiar with american invention, 'gyrojet' ? <<< isn't this really that french invention ? the rocket powered grenade that regularly gets stopped in branches etc and kills the shooter ? [08:19]
assbot Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [08:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00071871 = 16.0632 BTC [-] [09:12]
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mircea_popescu [09:33]
assbot WarOfLife (S.WOL), October 2014 Statement (closing) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [09:33]
ben_vulpes another one bites the dust [09:37]
BingoBoingo Fall drama season arrives! [09:37]
BingoBoingo First atc, then X-BT, nao WoL [09:37]
ben_vulpes oh first atc? [09:40]
ben_vulpes coulda sworn something died before that [09:40]
BingoBoingo Prolly was something forgettable [09:41]
ben_vulpes clearly nothing of import [09:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00072451 = 9.1288 BTC [+] [09:49]
mircea_popescu well these'd be the clean closures [09:55]
mircea_popescu there's all the moolah mcxnow breakoutgaming moopay etc blowups [09:57]
mircea_popescu there's all the unannounced ethereum etc deaths, [09:57]
mircea_popescu piles of stuff. [09:57]
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BingoBoingo << Done [10:06]
assbot Disney Patents "Piracy Free" Search Engine | [10:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00073602 = 7.8018 BTC [+] [10:17]
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BingoBoingo [10:21]
assbot War of Life Closing | [10:21]
dub what a scam [10:25]
mircea_popescu the worst. [10:26]
cazalla reskin as nigs vs whites [10:26]
dub !t s.wol mp [10:26]
assbot It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money. [10:26]
dub !t mp s.wol [10:27]
assbot [MPEX:S.WOL] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000086 / 0.000086 / 0.000086 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC) [10:27]
dub ouchies for whoever bought at 8600 [10:27]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell hanbot you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per talk to jurov [10:27]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:27]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [10:27]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell devthedev you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per talk to jurov [10:28]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:28]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [10:28]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per talk to jurov [10:28]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [10:28]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell princessnell you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per talk to jurov [10:28]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [10:28]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:28]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell pete_dushenski you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per talk to jurov [10:28]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:28]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [10:28]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per talk to jurov [10:30]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:30]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [10:30]
mircea_popescu teh p [10:30]
mircea_popescu teh p's have it huh. [10:30]
BingoBoingo So many p's and to think diametric and decimation are hard to tell apart [10:30]
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BingoBoingo .status [10:36]
punkbot BingoBoingo: 2 pending deeds | Last bundle 4 hours and 50 minutes ago [10:36]
BingoBoingo Tipping service update feat Weev (who was suspended from twitter nao) [10:43]
assbot weev: Gratipay allowed its SJW employee to stop my donations in secret. [10:43]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo isn't this the guy with the totally failed pseudo-kiclstarter max keiser campaign thing ? [10:45]
BingoBoingo Yeah [10:45]
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BingoBoingo The Troll with the "Hedge Fund" [10:45]
mircea_popescu that was so much lulz. what was it called, jumpkick ? startderp ? [10:46]
BingoBoingo Troll llc. [10:46]
BingoBoingo !s sad and disappoint [10:46]
assbot 0 results for 'sad and disappoint' : [10:46]
mircea_popescu no the "platform" [10:46]
cazalla startjoin [10:46]
mircea_popescu ah yes! [10:46]
mircea_popescu !s startjoin [10:47]
assbot 4 results for 'startjoin' : [10:47]
mircea_popescu [10:48]
assbot User comments around the project: TRO LLC [10:48]
mircea_popescu girls just wanna have fun... [10:50]
BingoBoingo Ah, those comments [10:51]
mircea_popescu it did deliver ze mucho lulz. [10:51]
mircea_popescu anyway, this is all for me. tomorrow! [10:52]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [21:21]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [21:21]
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punkman "During her rise to fame DePol insured her legs for $100,000 after which newspapers claimed Morlacchi was 'more valuable than Kentucky'." [21:27]
assbot Giuseppina Morlacchi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:27]
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punkman !up growth [21:31]
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punkman hope it's benign [21:31]
thestringpuller heh [21:33]
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punkman [21:37]
assbot Ted Baker loses £5m after employee steals seven tonnes of clothes - Telegraph [21:37]
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punkman that article delivers [21:40]
punkman "NODL had spotted losses after he joined the company in 2003, but had mistakenly put them down to flaws in its stock control system." [21:41]
BingoBoingo !t m s.qntr [21:44]
assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC) [21:44]
thestringpuller whoa it's moving [21:45]
punkbot [trust-update] no changes [21:45]
ben_vulpes that's the oddest damn donation mechanism i've seen in my life. [21:46]
punkman ben_vulpes: heh [21:47]
punkman !t m s.bbet [21:47]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00049 / 0.00049 / 0.00049 (8 shares, 0.00 BTC) [21:47]
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mircea_popescu "newspapers claimed Morlacchi was 'more valuable than Kentucky'. << well, at that time they were! [21:54]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the clothes ?! [21:55]
kakobrekla punkman getting ready to dump ? >< [21:56]
kakobrekla also unfortunate name, now you need to be tabbed twice. [21:56]
mircea_popescu ^ [21:56]
mircea_popescu very much so. it pains me to tab twice. [21:56]
punkman maybe I should be 1punkman [21:56]
mircea_popescu maybe just 1punk [21:57]
mircea_popescu you know punk and man form an oxymoron btw ? [21:57]
bounce 1p. cheap bugger. [21:57]
punkman bot's alt-name is dpbot, can switch [21:57]
mircea_popescu good idea. [21:57]
kakobrekla deep penetration bot? [21:57]
mircea_popescu and incidentally, the same naming convention as for websites (distinct first two letters) works here, too. [21:57]
punkman deep, double, dry, take your pick [21:58]
kakobrekla daniel p bot ? [21:58]
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punkman mircea_popescu: what's the oxymoron [21:58]
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mircea_popescu a punk is a young boy used (generally against his will) for the sexual gratification of adult males. [21:59]
mircea_popescu !up kiwi-test-user [21:59]
-assbot- You voiced kiwi-test-user for 30 minutes. [21:59]
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kiwi-test-user syn [21:59]
ben_vulpes ack [21:59]
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mircea_popescu punkman "The punk rolled up his big blue eyes And said to the jocker, “Sandy," [22:00]
assbot Big Rock Candy Mountain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [22:00]
bounce I thought it had to do with mohawks and guitars and things [22:01]
mircea_popescu well yes. [22:01]
mircea_popescu eeexactly. [22:01]
kakobrekla why not 'deedbot' anyway? [22:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13534 @ 0.00073678 = 9.9716 BTC [-] {2} [22:01]
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ben_vulpes rapidssl transmits certificates in the clear via email [22:05]
mircea_popescu !up cb_bitcoin [22:05]
-assbot- You voiced cb_bitcoin for 30 minutes. [22:05]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes what, that is a problem ? o.O [22:05]
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ben_vulpes i don't even know any more [22:06]
danielpbarron ;;later tell punkman <+punkman> bot's alt-name is dpbot, can switch << please do [22:06]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:06]
ben_vulpes double penetration bot? [22:06]
kakobrekla sorta on topic, i tried to get a box at OVH and when they asked for dox, i asked for pgp. after about 10 days, i got a reply : You can upload the documents to Dropbox or google Docs and password protect them. And provide us with the password. And we will be able to validate your account. [22:07]
kakobrekla gtfo. [22:08]
punkman speaking of young boys [22:08]
assbot dpaste: 383BH45 [22:08]
kakobrekla lol!! [22:08]
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mike_c kakobrekla: where does bitbet live now? or is it state secret? [22:10]
danielpbarron and by please do I mean please do not call it dpb* [22:10]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol. nice going! [22:10]
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jurov punkman you need to be tabbed twice. << i suggest change to spunkman [22:12]
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mircea_popescu then it needs to be stabbed like fifty times. [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00073624 = 11.1908 BTC [-] [22:12]
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bounce wtf does ovh even demand dox at all? isn't money enough these days? [22:14]
punkman lots of hosting companies do that [22:15]
punkman in case you are a haxx0r or whatever [22:15]
jurov yes they cover their ass if you start doing sth illegal [22:15]
kakobrekla mike_c actually im going to be moving it tonight it seems atm still on hetzner, new home is as anyone with the public ip address can figure out [22:15]
punkman "100% uptime, GUARANTEED!" [22:16]
kakobrekla mhm [22:16]
punkman it must be good [22:16]
kakobrekla hehe [22:16]
bounce that site takes about five seconds to go from blank page to something visible. [22:16]
mircea_popescu bounce money is nothing these days. [22:17]
mike_c which dc you going with? [22:17]
kakobrekla i picked this by recommendation, not by design [22:17]
mike_c amsterdam/phonix/ashburn? [22:17]
kakobrekla ams [22:17]
mike_c good choice. now just convince management you need to visit the servers often. [22:18]
kakobrekla lol why [22:18]
mike_c cuz amsterdam is fun! [22:18]
kakobrekla ah [22:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00073385 = 15.9245 BTC [-] {2} [22:19]
punkman that'd help getting the hosting bill to 9k a month [22:19]
punkman you are not spending enough kako! [22:19]
kakobrekla jus need 8.5k really [22:19]
jurov plane tickets to buenos aires will help, too [22:20]
mircea_popescu how much is yurp to ba ? like 1k ? [22:21]
mircea_popescu 2k ? [22:21]
kakobrekla i dunno [22:22]
mircea_popescu also, anyone own aged/trusted accounts on BlackHatWorld TrafficPlanet WarriorForum DigitalPoint SitePoint they might wish to sell or share ? [22:22]
mircea_popescu gotta buy some media support for this qntra thing. [22:22]
punkman about 1.5k round-trip from Italy [22:23]
mircea_popescu euro ? [22:24]
punkman yea [22:24]
mircea_popescu still, not so terrible. [22:24]
bounce what are those? [22:25]
mircea_popescu bounce forums where the derpy web kids gather. [22:25]
kakobrekla mp just wants more ddos [22:25]
kakobrekla "hey, its pageviews" [22:26]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla it totally was worth every dime i didn't pay, that ddos. [22:26]
mircea_popescu did you see the thanks from the capitol of fires i got ? [22:26]
kakobrekla dunno? [22:26]
midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio_ [22:27]
mircea_popescu !s from:mircea_popescu pastebin [22:27]
assbot 43 results for 'from:mircea_popescu pastebin' : [22:27]
kakobrekla everything but a pastebin link [22:27]
mircea_popescu [22:28]
assbot Logged on 01-11-2014 19:28:51; mircea_popescu: <<< dude... this is just what i do. i save the people who save people from FIRE [22:28]
kakobrekla lolk [22:28]
mircea_popescu no dude, now i have an in with brooklyn fd. if i ever got a fire problem in brooklyn ima call my man raffa direct. [22:29]
mircea_popescu you don't understand how the world works. [22:29]
punkman [22:30]
assbot Really need to do laundry, but torn between "SLUT" and "COWBOY" settings... [22:30]
mircea_popescu bwahaha [22:30]
mircea_popescu it's really "cowboytoy" [22:31]
mircea_popescu which i suppose means cowgirl ? [22:31]
punkman [22:32]
punkman what happened to fbi miner guy? [22:36]
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BingoBoingo [22:36]
assbot 7th Underhanded C Contest Going on Now | [22:36]
bounce is this proof the USG is completely filled with muppets? [22:36]
mircea_popescu bounce well it will be completely filled with cartoon characters soon [22:36]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo o hey cool. you participating ? [22:37]
bounce yeah probably a slander on the muppets. sorry jim! [22:37]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: No, just figured a writeup fits Qntra's demographic. [22:38]
mircea_popescu prolly. [22:38]
mircea_popescu if anyone from b-a gets in there im buyin' you a beer. [22:38]
BingoBoingo Thanks, I just wanted to link to a relevant past challenge in the writeup [22:39]
assbot The Underhanded C Contest » 2007 [22:39]
mircea_popescu punkman: this thing got so many threads and subprocesses, I wonder what new and exciting breakage tomorrow will bring [22:45]
mircea_popescu spoken like a true admin! [22:45]
mircea_popescu punkman is it stable nao ? i was planning to do a trilema write-up, is it time ? [22:45]
punkman maybe give it a few days [22:46]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: there will be qntra writeup soon [22:46]
thestringpuller too* [22:46]
mircea_popescu ? [22:47]
assbot Introducing the qntra pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [22:47]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: qntra writeup about punkbot [22:49]
mircea_popescu ah, talk to these other guys. [22:49]
thestringpuller i kno. it's on editor's desk now. just letting you know. ;) [22:49]
mircea_popescu ah cool. [22:50]
mircea_popescu i didn't get it originally :) good for you. [22:50]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: maybe swol can sell it? <<< it definitely can. it's been publicly announced it closes, someone wants to make an offer they know where to make it. [22:51]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category << just about right. [22:52]
mircea_popescu joecool: what is this? is there documentation on it yet? <<< you mean the deedbot ? [22:54]
joecool mircea_popescu: yes [22:54]
joecool i had been absent from here for a month or two, it is new [22:54]
mircea_popescu ah, its a deed registrar we've been trying to get going since summer. finally punkman made it work. [22:54]
mircea_popescu if you look through the logs the spec is a pastebin plastered like a dozen diff places. [22:55]
nubbins` ^ text of gpg-signed deed is used as passphrase for brainwallet, address of which is funded with pittance to prove document's existence at a particular point in time [22:55]
joecool oh so it has a reference in the blockchain too? [22:56]
mircea_popescu nubbins`: punkman i have nfi. like i said, i get different results when i do curl -o vs curl | pbcopy << this sounds like os/x [22:56]
mircea_popescu joecool yes. [22:56]
joecool pretty cool [22:56]
mircea_popescu totally. [22:56]
mircea_popescu jurov: *sigh* if s.wol paid out dividends and then immediately vanished, it would be so much easier <<< that's how it will work ? [22:57]
nubbins` mircea_popescu funny thing is, pbcopy is the only osx-specific tool, and it's the only one that preserves
line endings
mircea_popescu cause it knows it should see ? [22:58]
mircea_popescu all the unix stuff is "eh, whatevs" [22:58]
thestringpuller pbcopy is really annoying [22:59]
thestringpuller got a mac recently...and yea [22:59]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: fuck you to anyone who mentions rss again. <<< awww angry kako!!! of WRATH! [22:59]
nubbins` thestringpuller ehh it does what it should [22:59]
nubbins` joecool here's an example [22:59]
nubbins` [22:59]
assbot Deed AF1zMmjk | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [22:59]
nubbins` if you sha256sum the text of that deed, you'll get AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6 as a result [23:00]
nubbins` that ^ is then used as a brainwallet passphrase to get the public address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF and its associated private key [23:00]
nubbins` next, that address is funded: [23:01]
assbot Bitcoin Address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF [23:01]
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nubbins` thereby proving the document's existence at the time of funding. [23:01]
nubbins` deeds 101 [23:01]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: >Perhaps the most common brand is Predictious. It takes pride as the premier Bitcoin prediction market that requires bettors to sign in using a Google account. <<< ahahahaha bejesus. [23:01]
mircea_popescu then again i shouldn't laugh, the aborigines also took pride in smearing shit all over their faces or w/e it is they did, when the bitcoin colonists found them. [23:02]
mircea_popescu !t m s.qntr [23:03]
assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC) [23:03]
mod6 .deedbot [23:03]
mircea_popescu hehe check that out, trading! [23:03]
mircea_popescu jurov you got an addy for trasurer for bitcoin foundation published yet ? or how's that thing coming along ? [23:03]
mod6 .deed [23:04]
punkbot mod6: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. [23:04]
nubbins` use the genesis deed address for donations 8) [23:04]
mircea_popescu lol [23:04]
nubbins` meantime, my 0-fee tx finally made it thru [23:05]
mircea_popescu tbh, punkman made a major innovation with the bot. that it responds when you call it, like [23:05]
nubbins` [23:05]
assbot Bitcoin Address 149LB8VYaT1BdMLyQUL92Kj6KrJfNwcp64 [23:05]
mircea_popescu punkbot deed baby [23:05]
punkbot mircea_popescu: Error: 'baby' is not a valid http url. [23:05]
mircea_popescu this is pretty fucking great, because the special char space was getting crowded [23:05]
mircea_popescu i think this should be the standard bot calling procedure. say its name. [23:05]
nubbins` ;;it !sure ,,was [23:05]
gribble Error: "it" is not a valid command. [23:05]
mircea_popescu assbot t m s.qntr [23:06]
nubbins` gribble ticker [23:06]
kakobrekla %no *it #wasnt [23:06]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla omg whay the haet! [23:06]
nubbins` kako haetmoad OFF [23:06]
mircea_popescu anyway, it's gonna be the standard going forward. [23:06]
jurov mircea_popescu: on it [23:06]
kakobrekla its a good thing we can have as many standards as we need [23:06]
bounce fifteen [23:07]
nubbins` so many standards, so few substandards [23:07]
mircea_popescu lmao [23:07]
nubbins` perhaps we'll call this the superstandard, yes? set it apart a bit? [23:07]
davout nubbins`: just call it microsoft [23:08]
kakobrekla my standard is a standard one, you can use whatever. [23:08]
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nubbins` i support the standard standards [23:08]
nubbins` on a go-forward basis [23:08]
mike_c as a consumer of kako's standards, I can vouch they are anything but standard [23:08]
kakobrekla my standards just got for-pay model. [23:09]
mircea_popescu !Contre nous de la tyrannie l'étendard sanglant est levé! [23:09]
nubbins` erm, is that standard? [23:09]
kakobrekla it is now. [23:09]
mike_c but they work, which is also not standard. [23:09]
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mircea_popescu !up Zebetus [23:09]
-assbot- You voiced Zebetus for 30 minutes. [23:09]
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kakobrekla mike_c idk i make em up on spot :| [23:10]
mircea_popescu so they're more like spotdards ? [23:10]
kakobrekla well they are standard for me [23:10]
mircea_popescu try making them on the stan next time. [23:10]
kakobrekla so you can call em potato [23:10]
kakobrekla standard potato [23:11]
kakobrekla nice round n shit. [23:11]
mircea_popescu like a tomato. [23:11]
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Azelphur mircea_popescu: haha, I see you upped a friend of mine :) [23:14]
bounce my, isn't that nice. google slowly breaking stuff in browsers to push their own craptastic contraption with copious user friendlyness and vendor lock-in sauce [23:14]
mircea_popescu ool. [23:14]
mircea_popescu bounce strategy! [23:14]
* bounce is using pre-webkit opera now. not too happy everything is going webkit, just with shittier and shittier user interfaces wrapped around it. [23:16]
punkbot Bundled 1 deed | [23:16]
nubbins` bounce ever try the w3c browser [23:16]
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mircea_popescu bounce makes two of us. [23:17]
mircea_popescu on both scores. [23:17]
nubbins` [23:17]
assbot Amaya Home Page [23:17]
kakobrekla presto sux though. [23:17]
bounce years and years ago, and it didn't impress me with the w3c [23:18]
BingoBoingo from thestringpuller [23:18]
assbot New Bitcoin Deed System Launches | [23:18]
jurov 13EVfGFm2MYM8rFfz5n2pzJh6AznEh8126 will do? [23:19]
bounce how many man-years would it cost to come up with a decent web rendering engine these days? [23:19]
mircea_popescu bout two. [23:19]
mike_c new qntra share model: word_count - (footnotes * 100) [23:19]
mircea_popescu and ima bbl! [23:19]
bounce that sounds low [23:20]
mike_c news flash: news doesn't have footnotes. [23:20]
kakobrekla its not news [23:21]
kakobrekla its views and cumentary [23:21]
kakobrekla but i agree on big footnotes being big [23:21]
BingoBoingo !b 4 [23:21]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [23:21]
jurov mircea_popescu: or i can generate something like 1BTCFund but it 'll take a while [23:22]
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kakobrekla especially when you explain with 4 words taking up 2 lines space [23:22]
kakobrekla but i can see it, mp having big cultural influence in this cult, weird bitbet doesnt have footnotes (yet) [23:24]
kakobrekla also has anyone ever done headnotes? [23:24]
kakobrekla maybe something like -3. this site is not for stupid, -2. .... [23:25]
mike_c hehe [23:25]
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BingoBoingo [23:33]
assbot Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Crypto Challenge For The Telegram Developers [23:33]
punkbot Confirmed bundle 1MXeLHi5CRAAkeoJqxFRzBwgMjg7LrLxsA | [23:33]
jurov mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes: 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 [23:34]
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nubbins` jurov now gpg sign dat shit [23:46]
nubbins` [23:46]
nubbins` and deed it up! [23:46]
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jurov with the blablablas? [23:48]
nubbins` preferably replace the blablas with something that at least passes checksum [23:49]
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PeterL !up scoopbot [23:49]
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jurov the REFERENCES can't be replaced by definition.. why they must be there? [23:52]
PeterL is kakobrekla here? [23:52]
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kakobrekla yea [23:54]
PeterL so scoopbot is ready (penguirker replacement), I suppose I need to talk to you about registering him in the chan? [23:57]
punkman PeterL: did you use irker too? [23:59]
PeterL no, it is a bot I made myself [23:59]
kakobrekla but does it work? [23:59]
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