Forum logs for 01 Feb 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

Ukto	2 A + 2 B	[00:00]
burnside	I wish we'd built out like that	[00:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6191 @ 0.00067745 = 4.1941 BTC [+]	[00:00]
Ukto	ppl who dont use 240v loose money	[00:00]
burnside	10 yrs ago we thought 4x20A 120v per rack was insane	[00:00]
Ukto	so much more efficient	[00:00]
burnside	we're having to redo a lot of it now	[00:01]
Ukto	yup	[00:01]
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Ukto	my site used to allow up to 4x 30amp 240v primary	[00:01]
Ukto	24" raised floor	[00:01]
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Ukto	an 50ton leibert air handlers for chilled water lining the walls	[00:02]
dub	heh, relevant http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729024.500-keep-rainforests--they-drive-the-planets-winds.html	[00:02]
burnside	is your airflow in the floor?	[00:02]
Ukto	always	[00:02]
dub	wind != fusion	[00:02]
Ukto	save money by controling air needs	[00:02]
Ukto	if only half your facility is in use	[00:02]
Ukto	you use dampers to control airflow, and only put perpherated tiles where you need them	[00:02]
Ukto	if your pressure drops, you need to turn another unit on.	[00:03]
burnside	we did some math and didn't think the perforated tiles had enough surface area to cool the higher heat racks	[00:03]
Ukto	depends on design and use	[00:03]
Ukto	as I said, I was talking to APC abotu chilled cab doors	[00:03]
Ukto	and decided to do bottom tile-fed vented distributed doors	[00:04]
Ukto	that I had custom made	[00:04]
Ukto	so air was fed via the bottom cold side of the cabinet	[00:04]
Ukto	into a thin airshaft that ran up the door with air vents	[00:04]
Diablo-D3	[05:02:11] an 50ton leibert air handlers for chilled water lining the walls	[00:04]
burnside	sounds pretty good	[00:04]
Diablo-D3	yeah all that shit I hate	[00:04]
Diablo-D3	its so goddamned fucking inefficient	[00:04]
Ukto	Diablo-D3: I agree	[00:05]
Diablo-D3	use hot aisle containment with in row chillers	[00:05]
burnside	what's the temperature differential between the bottom of the rack and the top?	[00:05]
Ukto	hence why I changed things	[00:05]
Diablo-D3	hot air goes right into the cooling units	[00:05]
Diablo-D3	burnside: a lot if you're doing shit wrong	[00:05]
Ukto	burnside: front side was a reverse design with intake fans	[00:05]
Ukto	so most heat was quickly removed and replaced with cold	[00:05]
burnside	I mean on the cold side, with it coming from the bottom up, did you see a wide swing in the intake temp on the servers at the top of the rack?	[00:06]
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Ukto	even the heavy loaded cabs maintained a high of 80degrees	[00:06]
burnside	nice, seems pretty good	[00:06]
Ukto	it wasnt that bad, about 4 degrees	[00:06]
Ukto	there were fans in the intake door at 2points	[00:06]
Ukto	so air would amke it all the way up	[00:06]
Ukto	ofc	[00:06]
Diablo-D3	Ukto: btw, the cab mounted chillers I dont like	[00:07]
Ukto	this was optional to the customer	[00:07]
Ukto	they could choose to use the flow doors for free	[00:07]
Diablo-D3	they're too expensive and they're not redundant enough	[00:07]
Ukto	(which they always did)	[00:07]
Ukto	but the had to plug the fans into their own power	[00:07]
Ukto	;)	[00:07]
Ukto	never a had a customer who didnt want/use em lol	[00:07]
Diablo-D3	if you're using in row cooling, if one of that row's chillers dies, the other take up the slack	[00:07]
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Ukto	Diablo-D3: umm, the system was fully redundant	[00:08]
Ukto	since I was basically n+3 units	[00:08]
Ukto	and you maintain pressure for the whole floor	[00:08]
Diablo-D3	Ukto: I dunno, all the chillers Ive seen that replace the backdoors are still just one chiller unit	[00:08]
Ukto	yeah	[00:08]
Ukto	this wasnt a chllder door	[00:08]
Diablo-D3	oh	[00:08]
Ukto	i had custom doors machined	[00:08]
burnside	I think Diablo was referring to the APC units you decided not to use	[00:08]
Ukto	ah yeah, it was somethign they were talking about back in.. 2008?	[00:09]
Diablo-D3	burnside: I said in row, not In-Row(tm)	[00:09]
burnside	heh	[00:09]
Diablo-D3	yes, APC calls their in row shit In-Row(tm) its annoying	[00:09]
Ukto	not sure if they made them public, but were offered at enterprise levels	[00:09]
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Diablo-D3	they do make shit that glues to their APC cabs though	[00:09]
Ukto	0,o	[00:09]
Diablo-D3	back door and front door replacements that force feeds the rack	[00:10]
Diablo-D3	but it still takes up room in the goddamned row, its not a backdoor chiller assembly	[00:10]
Diablo-D3	its like a single rack hot aisle containment	[00:10]
Diablo-D3	its retarded	[00:10]
Diablo-D3	its on APC's site somewhere	[00:10]
burnside	I get the feeling that those get used a lot more at small business setups where they end up with a rack of gear in a 4'x4' closet.	[00:10]
Ukto	yeah	[00:11]
Ukto	its stupid	[00:11]
Ukto	it contains the hot air	[00:11]
Ukto	and when I asked about it	[00:11]
Ukto	they said your supporsed to contain, and colelct the hot air	[00:11]
Ukto	on a per hot isle basis	[00:11]
Diablo-D3	hot air containment works wonders, but that is NOT how its done	[00:11]
Ukto	yeah	[00:11]
Diablo-D3	we were going to have raised floors too, but only for the water	[00:12]
Diablo-D3	outside air vent shit and electricity and net was going to be overhead	[00:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 257 @ 0.00706606 = 1.816 BTC [+]	[00:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17953 @ 0.00067098 = 12.0461 BTC [-]	[00:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5197 @ 0.00067098 = 3.4871 BTC [-]	[00:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11151 @ 0.00066923 = 7.4626 BTC [-]	[00:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9702 @ 0.00066627 = 6.4642 BTC [-]	[00:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 343 @ 0.00706606 = 2.4237 BTC [+]	[00:16]
Bowjob	would you guys say that s.dice is still a good investment @ 0.007xx	[00:17]
jcpham	i wouldn't know Bowjob i do not gamble	[00:22]
jcpham	god punishes wicked sinner gamblers	[00:22]
kakobreklaa	by giving the monies to the shareholders	[00:25]
error4733	just +750K$ in 2 month...	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	enough for tobacco.	[00:29]
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assbot	No darn tobacco, thats for sure.	[00:31]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 540 @ 0.00724211 = 3.9107 BTC [+]	[00:32]
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Bugpowder	Is this thing on?	[00:45]
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mircea_popescu	nope	[00:47]
Bugpowder	On my phone	[00:47]
mod6	connectbot ftw!	[00:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00067317 = 6.4288 BTC [+]	[01:04]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00067317 = 10.9727 BTC [+]	[01:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00067066 = 0.5701 BTC [-]	[01:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1104 @ 0.00067044 = 0.7402 BTC [-]	[01:10]
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fancypants	!help	[01:14]
assbot	List of commands:	[01:14]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[01:14]
fancypants	!ticker MPEX S.DICE	[01:15]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00534524 / 0.00699327 / 0.00739499 (89508 shares, 625.95 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00715946 / 0.0075 (624824 shares, 4,473.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00475863 / 0.0075 (6578516 shares, 31,304.74 BTC)	[01:15]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 373 @ 0.00066987 = 0.2499 BTC [-]	[01:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 17 @ 0.01499991 = 0.255 BTC [+]	[01:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 748 @ 0.00066627 = 0.4984 BTC [-]	[01:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00066426 = 1.3617 BTC [-]	[01:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1134 @ 0.00066322 = 0.7521 BTC [-]	[01:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 35 @ 0.00724211 = 0.2535 BTC [+]	[01:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 157 @ 0.001599 = 0.251 BTC [-]	[01:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00066322 = 1.4591 BTC [-]	[01:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00066987 = 2.6795 BTC [+]	[01:38]
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Namworld	How many shares did ASICMINER sell?	[01:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9539 @ 0.00066322 = 6.3265 BTC [-]	[01:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4823 @ 0.00066987 = 3.2308 BTC [+]	[01:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00067317 = 4.1063 BTC [+]	[01:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1994 @ 0.00067706 = 1.3501 BTC [+]	[01:50]
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error4733	!ticker m s.dice	[01:59]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00534524 / 0.00698411 / 0.00739499 (87243 shares, 609.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00716125 / 0.0075 (623659 shares, 4,466.18 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00476381 / 0.0075 (6548683 shares, 31,196.73 BTC)	[01:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5160 @ 0.00067204 = 3.4677 BTC [-]	[02:11]
thestringpuller	wtf is this shit	[02:16]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: is manipulating da market	[02:16]
thestringpuller	;;bids 19	[02:16]
gribble	There are currently 21301.298 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 421722.684703 USD in total.	[02:16]
thestringpuller	;;asks 21	[02:17]
gribble	There are currently 2446.5034 bitcoins offered at or under 21.0 USD, worth 51124.3598663 USD in total.	[02:17]
thestringpuller	;;asks 20	[02:17]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.	[02:17]
thestringpuller	;;bids 20	[02:17]
gribble	There are currently 10170.349 bitcoins demanded at or over 20.0 USD, worth 205310.829868 USD in total.	[02:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 674 @ 0.00724211 = 4.8812 BTC [+]	[02:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 926 @ 0.00727013 = 6.7321 BTC [+]	[02:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00067678 = 2.7748 BTC [+]	[02:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7035 @ 0.00067204 = 4.7278 BTC [-]	[02:27]
smickles	;;ticker	[02:30]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.55104, Best ask: 20.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.14895, Last trade: 20.70000, 24 hour volume: 99996.90950064, 24 hour low: 19.51123, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.58455	[02:30]
error4733	Bitcoin is to fiat what kryptonite is to superman.	[02:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 205 @ 0.00067204 = 0.1378 BTC [-]	[02:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3977 @ 0.00066322 = 2.6376 BTC [-]	[02:30]
thestringpuller	smickles you got a moment?	[02:31]
smickles	thestringpuller: sure	[02:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1757 @ 0.00066159 = 1.1624 BTC [-]	[02:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]	[02:32]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23382 @ 0.00067686 = 15.8263 BTC [+]	[02:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13556 @ 0.00067706 = 9.1782 BTC [+]	[02:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6258 @ 0.00067745 = 4.2395 BTC [+]	[02:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000678 = 6.78 BTC [+]	[02:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7504 @ 0.00067812 = 5.0886 BTC [+]	[02:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.13 = 0.26 BTC [-]	[02:40]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1102 BTC [-]	[02:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1101 BTC [-]	[02:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [-]	[02:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7723 @ 0.00067604 = 5.2211 BTC [-]	[02:43]
smickles	/q thestringpuller	[02:44]
smickles	lol	[02:44]
Namworld	Buy more BTC-BOND	[02:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6818 @ 0.00067604 = 4.6092 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11632 @ 0.00066147 = 7.6942 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00066438 = 5.614 BTC [+]	[02:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]	[02:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.2802 = 1.1208 BTC [-]	[02:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.28 = 2.24 BTC [-]	[02:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2639 BTC [-]	[02:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]	[02:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.2402 = 2.8824 BTC [-]	[02:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 25 @ 0.2401 = 6.0025 BTC [-]	[02:53]
mircea_popescu	How many shares did ASICMINER sell? 20k of 40k total issued	[02:55]
Namworld	They only issued 40k?	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	is what they said.	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	o no my bad, 400k	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	40k btc worth	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	200k / 400k shares at .1 each	[02:56]
Namworld	ah, 200k	[02:56]
Namworld	shares	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[02:56]
thestringpuller	Namworld: hey	[02:59]
thestringpuller	i need your email	[02:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00066438 = 8.803 BTC [+]	[02:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00066228 = 1.755 BTC [-]	[02:59]
Bugpowder	Bye bye cognitive	[03:01]
Namworld	If only GLBSE hadn't been closed	[03:02]
Namworld	I'd have like ~1200 ASICMINER	[03:02]
error4733	net lost ?	[03:02]
Namworld	I lended them for shorting, and the shorting contract specified if shares weren't trading at the time of expiry, I'd be paid a 1 BTC compensation instead of getting shares.	[03:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00066228 = 8.6428 BTC [-]	[03:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2768 @ 0.00066147 = 1.8309 BTC [-]	[03:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5982 @ 0.00066127 = 3.9557 BTC [-]	[03:03]
Namworld	and yeah, so ASICMINER never started being traded again after GLBSE closed, they were not reissued	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	Network total 28.727 Thash/s.	[03:05]
Namworld	So shares could not be bought back for me	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	no asics yet	[03:05]
smickles	not even one? ;P	[03:05]
smickles	;;bc,nethash	[03:05]
smickles	hmm	[03:06]
smickles	;;nethash	[03:06]
gribble	25728.937914035028	[03:06]
gribble	25728.937914	[03:06]
smickles	oh, both	[03:06]
smickles	;;bc,price	[03:06]
gribble	Next Price Estimate: 22.823889 \| Next Price In About 3 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 4 seconds	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	smickles maybe one	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	certainly not 20	[03:08]
smickles	you nethash is bigger than mine :o	[03:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.705 = 2.115 BTC [+]	[03:08]
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Ukto	well	[03:09]
Ukto	no one wants to sell their asicmining shares	[03:09]
Ukto	I have asked around	[03:09]
smickles	!ticker m s.dice	[03:09]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00534524 / 0.00698261 / 0.00739499 (87093 shares, 608.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.0071615 / 0.0075 (625259 shares, 4,477.80 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00476452 / 0.0075 (6549766 shares, 31,206.53 BTC)	[03:09]
thestringpuller	garzik has an asic	[03:09]
thestringpuller	i dont think he was lyig	[03:09]
thestringpuller	liying	[03:09]
Ukto	no, bitcoind foundation has one too	[03:09]
Ukto	charles / yankee of bitinstnat was there and saw/played with it in person	[03:09]
smickles	wth does the bf have one?	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	Ukto pity they STILL haven't gotten with the program and listed	[03:10]
mircea_popescu	i think i'd short them all over again	[03:10]
Ukto	https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=112	[03:10]
smickles	why?	[03:10]
Ukto	bf?	[03:10]
Ukto	wha?	[03:10]
Ukto	oh	[03:10]
Ukto	foundation	[03:10]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: who listed?	[03:10]
Ukto	but yeah there it is :)	[03:10]
Ukto	they have a special one with an xtra asic module	[03:11]
Ukto	Anyone wanna sell ASICMINING shares? pm me :)	[03:11]
Ukto	as doubtful as it is	[03:11]
smickles	I think owning one of those is outside of their misson statement	[03:11]
smickles	or, at least, their 3 primary objectives	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	owning what ?!	[03:12]
Namworld	I technically should have 827 shares left of ASICMINER	[03:14]
Namworld	So I have a little	[03:14]
smickles	I took: < Ukto> no, bitcoind foundation has one too " to mean that they owned one	[03:14]
Ukto	have one in their posestion, not sure if they paid for it	[03:15]
*	Ukto points to the blog	[03:15]
smickles	all i see is a long list with polimeda at the top, and no understanding to be had	[03:15]
Ukto	long list of what?	[03:16]
Ukto	0,o	[03:16]
smickles	heh, on mircea_popescu's blog	[03:16]
smickles	it looks like he's bragging about something	[03:16]
smickles	what... i dunno	[03:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00066488 = 3.5904 BTC [+]	[03:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00066979 = 3.215 BTC [+]	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	smickles link ?	[03:18]
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Ukto	lol	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	or wtf are we talking about	[03:21]
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smickles	mircea_popescu: it was at http://polimedia.us/trilema/ , but no more	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	lol ok.	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	the root picks a random article	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	you need it's url by clicking on the title	[03:28]
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Ukto	0,o	[03:32]
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mircea_popescu	ok that picostocks idiot is taking the cake already.	[03:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066276 = 2.8638 BTC [-]	[03:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00066268 = 6.3949 BTC [-]	[03:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00066127 = 0.6474 BTC [-]	[03:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4239 @ 0.00066127 = 2.8031 BTC [-]	[03:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 661 @ 0.00066115 = 0.437 BTC [-]	[03:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1175 BTC [-]	[03:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1174 BTC [-]	[03:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.8304 BTC [+]	[03:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.705 = 2.115 BTC [+]	[03:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 85 @ 0.1172 = 9.962 BTC [-]	[03:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.1171 = 0.3513 BTC [-]	[03:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.5198 BTC [-]	[03:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066133 = 2.8576 BTC [+]	[03:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00066131 = 12.631 BTC [-]	[03:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2343 @ 0.00066114 = 1.5491 BTC [-]	[03:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]	[03:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066961 = 2.8934 BTC [+]	[03:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14088 @ 0.00066979 = 9.436 BTC [+]	[03:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4999 BTC [+]	[03:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3660 @ 0.00066132 = 2.4204 BTC [-]	[03:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12390 @ 0.00066114 = 8.1915 BTC [-]	[03:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00066024 = 3.6643 BTC [-]	[03:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [-]	[03:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]	[03:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.707 = 2.828 BTC [+]	[03:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1763 @ 0.00066979 = 1.1808 BTC [+]	[03:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067811 = 2.9301 BTC [+]	[03:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2116 @ 0.00067812 = 1.4349 BTC [+]	[03:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0321 BTC [-]	[03:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00067812 = 1.4783 BTC [+]	[03:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067821 = 2.9305 BTC [+]	[03:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11832 @ 0.00067822 = 8.0247 BTC [+]	[03:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2367 @ 0.00067863 = 1.6063 BTC [+]	[03:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0239 BTC [+]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 124 @ 0.00727013 = 0.9015 BTC [+]	[04:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00066033 = 0.4622 BTC [-]	[04:05]
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Ukto	hey erik :)	[04:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8490 @ 0.00067863 = 5.7616 BTC [+]	[04:07]
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evoorhees	hi ukto	[04:17]
evoorhees	how are things?	[04:17]
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Ukto	doing good	[04:17]
Ukto	working on one of the various evil schemes. ;)	[04:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.707 = 1.414 BTC [+]	[04:18]
Ukto	If its not evil, it just cant be good. ;)	[04:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.708 = 2.124 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.71 = 7.1 BTC [+]	[04:21]
evoorhees	evil scheme huh?	[04:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.725 = 19.575 BTC [+]	[04:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13543 @ 0.00067863 = 9.1907 BTC [+]	[04:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9957 @ 0.00067913 = 6.7621 BTC [+]	[04:24]
Ukto	everything is evil	[04:25]
Ukto	to some extent. ;)	[04:25]
Ukto	I prefer playing sith when playing star wars. ;)	[04:25]
Ukto	its just more.. fun	[04:25]
evoorhees	lol	[04:26]
evoorhees	I could never play evil in the video games, I always felt guilty	[04:26]
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Bowjob	btctalk seems down	[04:29]
Namworld	I'm having fun with google spreadsheets and JSON	[04:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000669 = 2.8907 BTC [-]	[04:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19429 @ 0.00066879 = 12.9939 BTC [-]	[04:30]
Namworld	fetching all sorts of data automatically	[04:30]
Namworld	BTCT.co, MtGox, Blockchain	[04:31]
Namworld	I'll have an auto-updating summary of my holdings and their value	[04:31]
Namworld	Sadly, MPEx has no JSON api I think	[04:31]
kakobrekla	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	I could never play evil in the video games, I always felt guilty << whoa!	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	i almost always play the necromancer.	[04:33]
Namworld	AWESOME!	[04:34]
Namworld	MPEx DATA!	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	lol hi Namworld. enjoying interwebs ?	[04:34]
Namworld	Very much	[04:34]
Diablo-D3	Namworld: did you ever talk to amazingrando?	[04:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00066879 = 0.7163 BTC [-]	[04:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2416 @ 0.00066025 = 1.5952 BTC [-]	[04:34]
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Namworld	I added him 2 days ago on skype, no news yet	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	the girl has meanwhile managed to open a rift with hearn too.	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	i wonder how long before the bitcoin coder & geek community gets together a possee and comes to hang me.	[04:35]
kakobrekla	till april or so.	[04:36]
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mircea_popescu	well... at least i get to see the cherries bloom	[04:37]
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mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz_yw0kq3MM	[04:39]
Namworld	Anyone interested in a release of javascript functions for Google Spreadsheets?	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	for the lulz.	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	"monetary policy is spectacular" etc.	[04:40]
Namworld	To fetch all sorts of data?	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	can't hurt anything	[04:40]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1176 @ 0.00067913 = 0.7987 BTC [+]	[04:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067916 = 2.9347 BTC [+]	[04:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00067917 = 5.4334 BTC [+]	[04:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1903 @ 0.00067981 = 1.2937 BTC [+]	[04:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067562 = 2.9194 BTC [-]	[04:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4217 @ 0.00067538 = 2.8481 BTC [-]	[04:45]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067549 = 2.9188 BTC [+]	[04:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14583 @ 0.00067538 = 9.8491 BTC [-]	[04:47]
error4733	:Namworld : Yes yes	[04:48]
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*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[10:21]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co \|\| https://coinbr.com \|\| https://cryptostocks.com \|\| https://icbit.se \|\| https://therocktrading.com \|\| https://assets-otc.com \|\| https://www.havelockinvestments.com \|\| https://bitfunder.com \|\| https://btct.co \|\| http://picostocks.com \|\| list bot commands: !help \|\| Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades	[10:21]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012	[10:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0069 = 1.035 BTC [-]	[10:21]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[10:21]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.71011, Best ask: 20.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07989, Last trade: 20.71011, 24 hour volume: 100263.40325466, 24 hour low: 19.86000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.72437	[10:21]
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molecular	I'm considering getting an MPEX account. Anyone up for helping me get it a little bit cheaper and reap 5 BTC himself as per http://mpex.co/faq.html#13 ?	[10:24]
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mircea_popescu	o wow, a whole minute. people will be pissed :D	[10:26]
fancypants	molecular - sure	[10:26]
Namworld	I PMed him alread	[10:27]
Namworld	already*	[10:27]
molecular	a question: is it allowed to sell MPEX "accounts" (the pgp key)?	[10:27]
mircea_popescu	it's not allowed or disallowed, seeing how i have no control over it	[10:27]
molecular	so who's going lower than 5 BTC (give me part of that 5 after receiving)?	[10:28]
mircea_popescu	it is however a little silly, as you are opening a security hole.	[10:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0069 = 0.69 BTC [-]	[10:29]
molecular	what happens when a pgp key expires?	[10:29]
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molecular	I agree it's silly, though	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	you'd better have moved all your stuff to a new account or withdrawn	[10:29]
fancypants	whats the security hole?	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	the keyring is on a cold machine and it doesn't keep track of key updates.	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	fancypants you never know whether the person selling a pgp key doesn't keep a copy.	[10:30]
molecular	it's also a issue for the buyer of the key, because I still have it, right?	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	that's the issue.	[10:30]
molecular	mircea_popescu, you can be pretty sure he keeps a copy	[10:30]
molecular	I hadn't considered that	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	right.	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	so now you're exposed to the cp risk of the exchange and of the key seller.	[10:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 344 @ 0.00719622 = 2.4755 BTC [-]	[10:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 956 @ 0.00717339 = 6.8578 BTC [-]	[10:31]
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fancypants	so, no security hole to game the affiliate program then?	[10:32]
Namworld	how can you game it at all?	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	ya srsly. w hat's to game ?	[10:33]
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fancypants	i don't know namworld but if I tell her me keyed i get 5	[10:34]
fancypants	keyid	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	molecular is a girl ?!	[10:34]
fancypants	ask her i don't know	[10:35]
Namworld	fancypants: yeah, and molecular gets 5 too. But there's the 30 BTC fee	[10:35]
Namworld	to open an account	[10:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [-]	[10:36]
Namworld	So it's not like you can game it opening multiple accounts	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[10:37]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.71011, Best ask: 20.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07989, Last trade: 20.71011, 24 hour volume: 99063.11903182, 24 hour low: 19.86000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.73462	[10:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.775 = 4.65 BTC [+]	[10:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.779 = 15.58 BTC [+]	[10:38]
mircea_popescu	soo what's new this fine morning ?	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	Network total 23.555 Thash/s, this is sad. where did all the asics go	[10:39]
Namworld	Nothing much. After the GLBSE fiasco, my BTC finances are slowly recovering	[10:40]
Namworld	bit by bit, one day after the other	[10:40]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAxbQxyJSQ	[10:42]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.779 BTC [+]	[10:50]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.33 = 2.64 BTC [-]	[10:55]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00735013 = 12.4952 BTC [+]	[10:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25059 @ 0.00066598 = 16.6888 BTC [-]	[10:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4452 @ 0.00066598 = 2.9649 BTC [-]	[11:10]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00733648 = 3.3014 BTC [-]	[11:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16207 @ 0.00066553 = 10.7862 BTC [-]	[11:16]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00066553 = 7.3208 BTC [-]	[11:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00066553 = 5.9565 BTC [-]	[11:34]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0235 = 0.047 BTC [-]	[11:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0235 = 2.35 BTC [-]	[11:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22438 @ 0.00066553 = 14.9332 BTC [-]	[11:41]
dub	;;bc,stats	[11:42]
gribble	Error: invalid syntax (, line 1)	[11:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065708 = 2.8392 BTC [-]	[11:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34236 @ 0.00065707 = 22.4954 BTC [-]	[11:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37241 @ 0.00065331 = 24.3299 BTC [-]	[11:45]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.bbet	[11:47]
assbot	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.001599 / 0.001599 / 0.001599 (157 shares, 0.25 BTC), 7D: 0.0010499 / 0.00128259 / 0.00159999 (70348 shares, 90.23 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079936 / 0.0035 (2339720 shares, 1,870.29 BTC)	[11:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 88 @ 0.0235 = 2.068 BTC [-]	[11:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53 @ 0.00066553 = 0.0353 BTC [+]	[11:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066662 = 2.8805 BTC [+]	[11:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00066663 = 10.3328 BTC [+]	[11:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 226 @ 0.00066945 = 0.1513 BTC [+]	[11:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 930 @ 0.00718594 = 6.6829 BTC [-]	[11:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00066945 = 10.4434 BTC [+]	[11:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 79 @ 0.779 = 61.541 BTC [+]	[12:02]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 64 @ 0.78 = 49.92 BTC [+]	[12:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.78 = 3.12 BTC [+]	[12:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065353 = 2.8239 BTC [-]	[12:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8871 @ 0.00065331 = 5.7955 BTC [-]	[12:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 406 @ 0.00734501 = 2.9821 BTC [+]	[12:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00065331 = 6.7618 BTC [-]	[12:18]
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markedathome	BingoBongo: no space after the ;	[12:25]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[12:26]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.84999, Best ask: 20.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 20.85000, 24 hour volume: 87857.41531625, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.81479	[12:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066928 = 2.892 BTC [+]	[12:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00066945 = 0.6219 BTC [+]	[12:26]
BingoBongo	markedathome: you were saying?	[12:27]
BingoBongo	;; bc , stats	[12:28]
gribble	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.	[12:28]
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BingoBongo	See, the space is problematic there, but not where I initially used it	[12:29]
BingoBongo	!ticker m s.bbet	[12:30]
assbot	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.001599 / 0.001599 / 0.001599 (157 shares, 0.25 BTC), 7D: 0.0010499 / 0.00128259 / 0.00159999 (70348 shares, 90.23 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079936 / 0.0035 (2339720 shares, 1,870.29 BTC)	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	dude that's subtle.	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	who are you BingoBongo ?	[12:37]
BingoBongo	I'm on the vodka right now so I'm on this sweet burner username	[12:38]
BingoBongo	It's like my cellphone	[12:38]
BingoBongo	mircea_popescu: was I really subtle, I thought that was some serious shade	[12:40]
BingoBongo	or vodka is telling me that	[12:40]
BingoBongo	Roughly 22 hrs ago is the first time I've been on IRC in almost decade, so I'm mostly just watching MP	[12:45]
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BingoBongo	;; ticker	[12:46]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.78302, Best ask: 20.79500, Bid-ask spread: 0.01198, Last trade: 20.79000, 24 hour volume: 87271.33217445, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.81702	[12:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00066059 = 2.9066 BTC [-]	[12:53]
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BingoBongo	mircea_popescu: Is the girl going to ever make peace with Mike Hearn?	[12:57]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[13:15]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.74712, Best ask: 20.79500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04788, Last trade: 20.74712, 24 hour volume: 86489.92273006, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.81965	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo if he comes to sense im sure she will.	[13:16]
BingoBongo	I hope so, becaue I really like the bitcoinj clients	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	what;'s one to do with the other tho ? not like she'll kill him or anything	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	(and i happen to think anyone ever involved with java should just be hauled off to jail)	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.msg1495180#msg1495180 and so it begins. missing basic refunds.	[13:20]
BingoBongo	Maybe scare him off. I'm no big fan of Java. I just like how it is the only way I can run an SPV client that at least need to trust four times more voices than electrum	[13:21]
BingoBongo	And that Cablepair shit is so three hours ago	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	well i took a shower with the girls gimme a break.	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	anyway, if it scares him off from propping up interscamgro 5 days before it blows up it'll be a net gain for everyone, including himself.	[13:22]
BingoBongo	Didn't intersango die a month before GLBSE	[13:23]
BingoBongo	Or am I underestimating the lead in everybody's paint	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	i think both are true, this is quantum finance we're dealing with here.	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	at any rate phantomcircuit was still making announcements re withdrawals etc on haloween	[13:25]
BingoBongo	Intersango was done before the london meetup though and anyone who knew could smell it	[13:26]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[13:26]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.71101, Best ask: 20.77999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06898, Last trade: 20.70251, 24 hour volume: 86070.35415238, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.82036	[13:26]
mircea_popescu	well yes in that sense.	[13:29]
mircea_popescu	it IS kinda getting stale that she has to individually bludgeon everyone into a pulp first.	[13:32]
mircea_popescu	you'd think people'd have enough sense to realise the relative positions and take it from there.	[13:32]
BingoBongo	A person would think, but sometimes it is necessary to get pick about what person should mean.	[13:34]
BingoBongo	It would be reasonable that the pirate fellow wiped out all of the people beneath that title	[13:34]
BingoBongo	Person being the title	[13:34]
mircea_popescu	yeah, i guess.	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	a well, she's young, well hydrated, i guess we find out who's left standing.	[13:35]
BingoBongo	Given the subjet they collided on hopefully both	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	i should expect so.	[13:36]
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BingoBongo	Of all the subjects they could have collided on, it was maximum block size	[13:38]
mircea_popescu	nah, they met before on something equally marginal	[13:38]
mircea_popescu	i'll have her fish it out.	[13:38]
BingoBongo	What could be more marginal? The only people who ought to care about maximum block size are dice games and people who bot them.	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	there's a problem with hard forks.	[13:39]
BingoBongo	Many problems	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	next year the us govt will ask for a hard fork to allow them to disallow selected transactions	[13:39]
BingoBongo	WHen you hard fork over one issue the temptation arises to just incorporate your Mary Poppins nanny wishlist	[13:40]
BingoBongo	USG may request, at least in parts	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	moreover, this "only evil people would care" argument is poisonous.	[13:40]
BingoBongo	I doubt the whole USG would though	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	obviously. that's the advantage of being a government : you ask in parts and benefit in whole.	[13:41]
BingoBongo	Three letter agencys from my understanding love the Armory client and its forcing new addresses for every transaction	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	d'oh.	[13:42]
BingoBongo	What transactions could they really disallow and still fund their favored people who can hold a tn	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	they wouldn't even use it. it's not a practical request.	[13:43]
BingoBongo	The most surprising thing about bitcoin would be if the USG doesn't ignore all of the things it says it opposes so it can leverage the BTC network to transfer value to its more expendable allies	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	there's no reason it wouldn't go both ways simultaneously.	[13:46]
BingoBongo	True	[13:47]
BingoBongo	I still imagine such an agency buying NVIDIA Teslas to mine with	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	that's more like 2015 on my calendar.	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	and it'll prolly just be homebrew.	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	aite, i got a meeting, bbl.	[13:49]
BingoBongo	Cool	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	a! just got this	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119073.msg1400494#msg1400494	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	was his take on capital markets lolz. anyway. later.	[13:50]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[13:51]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.73101, Best ask: 20.79999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06898, Last trade: 20.79999, 24 hour volume: 84432.45122330, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.82546	[13:51]
BingoBongo	Holy fuck this shit turned stable	[13:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [+]	[14:07]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2401 BTC [-]	[14:10]
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BingoBongo	;; ticker	[14:18]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.67111, Best ask: 20.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02889, Last trade: 20.67110, 24 hour volume: 83562.51579923, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.83008	[14:18]
gesell	made a google web app script module whatever the hell they try to categorize it... that you can use in spreadsheets or other apps... that provides bitcoincharts (exchange data and weighted prices) and direct order book highs and lows from exchanges	[14:18]
molecular	I have long blond hair and a beard. I'm not telling you guys my gender, though.	[14:18]
gesell	https://script.google.com/macros/s/AKfycbxBLJGpX9Is2ZF5YfjR4XjqjEClHz_rogK-8wEup5N5LuuIGtMb/exec	[14:18]
gesell	waiting for it to get published to the apps gallery, then you can just install it into your spreadsheet and use the functions	[14:18]
gesell	if you want more markets let me know. i didnt put a donate link anywhere so, im not trying to mootch if someone has code they'd like to share	[14:19]
gesell	currently supports getting satoshidice counts, and mtgox, bitcoincentral and bitcoin24	[14:19]
gesell	in addition to ALL market data from bitcoincharts	[14:19]
gesell	see the link for examples	[14:19]
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gesell	should not be hard to build an arbitrage table using googlefinance("currency:USDEUR") functions along with this stuff	[14:21]
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gesell	if you just want the code, wait for it to show up in the gallery, or just tell me your gmail addr and ill share it	[14:22]
gesell	would be happy if others want to modify	[14:22]
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Bugpowder	mpex is f'd up?	[14:27]
Bugpowder	mircea_popescu Is there something wrong with STAT or ordering? I place orders that the system accepts but they are not show in the STAT.	[14:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0239 = 0.2868 BTC [+]	[14:30]
gesell	okay the google code from before i think you can add to an existing spreadsheet even before it shows up in the gallery by going to "manage libraries" within your own spreadsheets script code and add the library using key "Mn6asBLgiBkIwY9lK-po6dDe4GsftYgT-"	[14:31]
gesell	aaaanyway	[14:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.024 = 2.4 BTC [+]	[14:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.025 = 0.25 BTC [+]	[14:34]
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Bugpowder	bitcoin price collapsing, no way to trade options :(	[14:37]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[14:38]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.47489, Best ask: 20.63189, Bid-ask spread: 0.15700, Last trade: 20.47489, 24 hour volume: 86995.67904068, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.81855	[14:38]
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BingoBongo	it looks awfully stable... for bitcoin	[14:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.78 = 4.68 BTC [+]	[14:45]
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BingoBongo	Bugpowder: so Bitcoin is still above $20, how is it collapsing? (caveat time==now)	[14:48]
Bugpowder	3000bt sold in 5 minutes I felt powerless and vulnerable.	[14:50]
Bugpowder	I just want to be able to place orders	[14:51]
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BingoBongo	;; ticker	[15:06]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.75001, Best ask: 20.78562, Bid-ask spread: 0.03561, Last trade: 20.70001, 24 hour volume: 84892.49229867, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.82657	[15:06]
BingoBongo	So... Shit is pretty much where it has been for the past few hours... Maybe a bit higher...	[15:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065366 = 2.8245 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3829 @ 0.00065331 = 2.5015 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10209 @ 0.00065331 = 6.6696 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1791 @ 0.00065178 = 1.1673 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00066397 = 2.1619 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10688 @ 0.00066617 = 7.12 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1156 @ 0.0006675 = 0.7716 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14713 @ 0.0006675 = 9.8209 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 837 @ 0.00066945 = 0.5603 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 470 @ 0.00721406 = 3.3906 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 401 @ 0.00717339 = 2.8765 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 170 @ 0.00714749 = 1.2151 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00066945 = 2.6109 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00066945 = 0.968 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00066952 = 2.9459 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00067101 = 2.6169 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1620 @ 0.00067171 = 1.0882 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00066424 = 8.1037 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00066294 = 4.4417 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00732394 = 14.6479 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00066294 = 5.1709 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00066294 = 2.1214 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31009 @ 0.00065178 = 20.211 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141 @ 0.00065091 = 0.0918 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10469 @ 0.00067154 = 7.0304 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3069 @ 0.00067171 = 2.0615 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 873 @ 0.00714749 = 6.2398 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8211 @ 0.00067171 = 5.5154 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12312 @ 0.00067379 = 8.2957 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00067379 = 4.7839 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00727162 = 2.9086 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00065264 = 4.699 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00065091 = 5.1422 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56500 @ 0.00067379 = 38.0691 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00732394 = 8.4225 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00065819 = 8.0628 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00065378 = 0.1961 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00066845 = 6.6177 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00067379 = 5.6181 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.0006765 = 6.7312 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6122 @ 0.0006775 = 4.1477 BTC [+]	[15:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.00066845 = 0.9024 BTC [-]	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00065226 = 4.7615 BTC [-]	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00067135 = 9.466 BTC [+]	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0006775 = 3.7601 BTC [+]	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00730193 = 0.0511 BTC [-]	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1730 @ 0.00730193 = 12.6323 BTC [-]	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 63 @ 0.00730193 = 0.46 BTC [-]	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 390 @ 0.00732394 = 2.8563 BTC [+]	[15:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 540 @ 0.00732394 = 3.9549 BTC [+]	[15:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 160 @ 0.00727162 = 1.1635 BTC [-]	[15:12]
BingoBongo	So... I'm new to this shit. Is this channel always as boring as shit when mircea_popescu is away?	[15:14]
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BingoBongo	;; ticker	[15:23]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.78501, Best ask: 20.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01499, Last trade: 20.79901, 24 hour volume: 82265.45116399, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.83914	[15:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2578 @ 0.0006775 = 1.7466 BTC [+]	[15:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 422 @ 0.00067806 = 0.2861 BTC [+]	[15:24]
markedathome	I name you Draco Malfoy >> I have long blond hair and a beard. I'm not telling you guys my gender, though.	[15:24]
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markedathome	damning with praise --> Hopefully he does the right thing and for his credit he has givin us zero indication that he does not have full intention of doing the right thing.	[15:33]
jurov	we can discuss how np-hard is mpex order/trade/matching	[15:34]
jurov	but perhaps you'llbe bored	[15:34]
markedathome	for a " specialized devision[sic] of a huge corporate electronics manufacturer in Canada."	[15:35]
markedathome	oh god I've read the rest https://www.bitcoinasic.net/	[15:35]
markedathome	has tom passed his madness to someone else?	[15:36]
markedathome	jurov: can it be made turing complete?	[15:36]
jurov	lol	[15:37]
markedathome	We currently have a full functioning and hashing prototype which we plan to bring to production next week.	[15:37]
markedathome	but they will include 25 FPGA hard copy ASICS	[15:38]
jurov	maybe i'll have to reserve the right to change last digit of price on coinbr orders so that shit can work better	[15:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0073446 = 4.4068 BTC [+]	[15:39]
jurov	or use mechanical turk, lol	[15:39]
Bugpowder	"gauranteed"	[15:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.8 BTC [+]	[15:42]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [+]	[15:45]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[15:52]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.74000, Best ask: 20.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 20.75000, 24 hour volume: 81257.48105440, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.84567	[15:52]
BingoBongo	That spread closed up awfully tight	[15:53]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3899 @ 0.00067806 = 2.6438 BTC [+]	[15:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067806 = 2.9299 BTC [+]	[15:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8735 @ 0.00067807 = 5.9229 BTC [+]	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.2401 = 0.9604 BTC [-]	[15:53]
Bugpowder	yeah	[15:56]
Bugpowder	panic averted	[15:56]
Bugpowder	mpex works again	[15:57]
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gesell	bleh, im not sure what is with google but... made a simple abitrage spreadsheet based on the Bitcoin Utilities google app I mentioned before. You can view it without a google account but apparently if you want to update the table you have to login with your google account. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AguYZ5-dWMgfdElhakdHQzhiQXp5emctdjZTNG9qaEE&usp=sharing#gid=0 It should then show you a BTC / Update menu. If it doesnt, go	[16:02]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[16:02]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.66118, Best ask: 20.79999, Bid-ask spread: 0.13881, Last trade: 20.66118, 24 hour volume: 80274.16082626, 24 hour low: 20.35000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.85245	[16:02]
gesell	the table doesnt take into account volume and the likes, yet	[16:04]
markedathome	take into account fees?	[16:04]
markedathome	also btc-e?	[16:04]
gesell	that either. not hard to add at some point	[16:04]
gesell	working on it	[16:04]
gesell	markedathome: ill add it	[16:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.0074 = 1.48 BTC [+]	[16:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006738 = 2.9115 BTC [-]	[16:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14729 @ 0.00067355 = 9.9207 BTC [-]	[16:05]
markedathome	did you see www.nyse-group.de/bitcoin-arbitrage when it was around? http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/7000316379/arbitrage-opportunities-view	[16:07]
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gesell	no i didnt	[16:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3755 @ 0.00067807 = 2.5462 BTC [+]	[16:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067818 = 2.9304 BTC [+]	[16:08]
gesell	aaah. yeah i saw that	[16:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9024 @ 0.00067819 = 6.12 BTC [+]	[16:08]
gesell	there are a couple of other abitrage tables that are public	[16:08]
gesell	somehow im getting close to the idea of google being the bot	[16:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 345 @ 0.00727162 = 2.5087 BTC [-]	[16:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 457 @ 0.00714749 = 3.2664 BTC [-]	[16:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 98 @ 0.00711968 = 0.6977 BTC [-]	[16:09]
gesell	grab a spreadsheet, give it your api keys and just keep your USD/EUR/GBP accounts up	[16:09]
gesell	would have to take into account volume and fees though	[16:09]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.00067355 = 2.5736 BTC [-]	[16:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067272 = 2.9068 BTC [-]	[16:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3754 @ 0.00067271 = 2.5254 BTC [-]	[16:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00067271 = 14.5305 BTC [-]	[16:18]
pigeons	here's a new one I didn't see on bitcoincharts yesterday https://www.libertybit.com	[16:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0072832 = 2.185 BTC [+]	[16:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1723 @ 0.00067271 = 1.1591 BTC [-]	[16:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00067135 = 1.0742 BTC [-]	[16:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00066925 = 11.4442 BTC [-]	[16:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 473 @ 0.00066617 = 0.3151 BTC [-]	[16:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2204 @ 0.00066382 = 1.4631 BTC [-]	[16:23]
gesell	markedathome: i added btc-e to the abitrage google table	[16:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.845 BTC [+]	[16:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.86 = 22.36 BTC [+]	[16:34]
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BingoBongo	;; ticker	[16:38]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.78000, Best ask: 20.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 20.78000, 24 hour volume: 79739.64954537, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.85572	[16:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067784 = 2.9289 BTC [+]	[16:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16976 @ 0.00067819 = 11.513 BTC [+]	[16:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3853 @ 0.00067843 = 2.614 BTC [+]	[16:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]	[16:51]
gesell	markedathome: updated google abitrate table to highlight those with possitive arbitrage percentiles. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AguYZ5-dWMgfdElhakdHQzhiQXp5emctdjZTNG9qaEE&usp=sharing	[16:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 766 @ 0.0072832 = 5.5789 BTC [+]	[16:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0073446 = 0.3672 BTC [+]	[16:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1144 @ 0.00734501 = 8.4027 BTC [+]	[16:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3162 @ 0.00735013 = 23.2411 BTC [+]	[16:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00736106 = 3.6805 BTC [+]	[16:55]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2878 @ 0.00737252 = 21.2181 BTC [+]	[16:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]	[16:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.89 = 2.67 BTC [+]	[16:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067818 = 2.9304 BTC [-]	[16:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6736 @ 0.00067843 = 4.5699 BTC [+]	[16:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00067844 = 6.7166 BTC [+]	[16:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89 @ 0.00067984 = 0.0605 BTC [+]	[16:56]
gesell	still, you wont see the BTC / Update menu to update the values uourself unless you have a google account	[16:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.7801 = 14.0418 BTC [-]	[16:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.75 = 7.5 BTC [-]	[16:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.75 = 3.75 BTC [-]	[17:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [+]	[17:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00737252 = 20.6431 BTC [+]	[17:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19265 @ 0.00067984 = 13.0971 BTC [+]	[17:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3535 @ 0.00068019 = 2.4045 BTC [+]	[17:02]
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gesell	okay now the google abitrage table updates every minute	[17:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]	[17:08]
Bugpowder	for now	[17:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2673 @ 0.00067512 = 1.8046 BTC [-]	[17:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.745 = 5.96 BTC [-]	[17:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1515 @ 0.00068019 = 1.0305 BTC [+]	[17:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17285 @ 0.00068053 = 11.763 BTC [+]	[17:15]
jcpham	what's new	[17:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00068018 = 9.5225 BTC [-]	[17:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6713 @ 0.00068053 = 4.5684 BTC [+]	[17:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00068078 = 3.1656 BTC [+]	[17:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00068151 = 14.448 BTC [+]	[17:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00068184 = 8.7616 BTC [+]	[17:16]
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markedathome	btcfpga is even more up its own arse than previously thought possible.	[17:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1648 @ 0.00067512 = 1.1126 BTC [-]	[17:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00067509 = 9.8226 BTC [-]	[17:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19352 @ 0.0006645 = 12.8594 BTC [-]	[17:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]	[17:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068157 = 2.9451 BTC [+]	[17:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00068184 = 1.3835 BTC [+]	[17:19]
kakobrekla	markedathome how could that be	[17:22]
markedathome	read for yourself - https://www.bitcoinasic.net/	[17:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4322 @ 0.00737252 = 31.864 BTC [+]	[17:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6000 @ 0.007375 = 44.25 BTC [+]	[17:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00737717 = 24.7135 BTC [+]	[17:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1328 @ 0.0073786 = 9.7988 BTC [+]	[17:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.75 = 11.25 BTC [+]	[17:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.007 = 0.7 BTC [-]	[17:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2547 @ 0.0074 = 18.8478 BTC [+]	[17:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7454 @ 0.0075 = 55.905 BTC [+]	[17:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.75 = 10.5 BTC [+]	[17:29]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00067443 = 11.6002 BTC [-]	[17:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067938 = 2.9356 BTC [+]	[17:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9279 @ 0.00067925 = 6.3028 BTC [-]	[17:33]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068163 = 2.9453 BTC [+]	[17:34]
gigavps_	anyone talked with tytus from the forums?	[17:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6821 @ 0.00068184 = 4.6508 BTC [+]	[17:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8608 @ 0.00068212 = 5.8717 BTC [+]	[17:34]
topace	when does the s.dice dividend get paid ?	[17:34]
Bugpowder	any time now	[17:35]
Bugpowder	could be tonight	[17:35]
Bugpowder	could be in a few days	[17:35]
Bugpowder	erik will make an annoucement soon I bet	[17:36]
Bugpowder	last month it was the night of the first.	[17:36]
Bugpowder	but previous months as late as the 6th	[17:36]
topace	cool	[17:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.75 = 10.5 BTC [+]	[17:38]
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mjr_	hi everyone!	[17:38]
mjr_	:)	[17:38]
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jurov	hihi	[17:39]
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DeaDTerra1	I am all synced and Erik was online latest yesterday evening, so he's not traveling	[17:41]
DeaDTerra1	so it should be sometime within 12 hours	[17:41]
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Bugpowder	there his is!	[17:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3016 @ 0.00068212 = 2.0573 BTC [+]	[17:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00068225 = 4.0253 BTC [+]	[17:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00068225 = 1.8421 BTC [+]	[17:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00068249 = 4.7774 BTC [+]	[17:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00068261 = 4.1298 BTC [+]	[17:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34 @ 0.00068261 = 0.0232 BTC [+]	[17:45]
mjr_	hey!	[17:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.008 = 3.2 BTC [+]	[17:46]
mjr_	what's new jurov?	[17:46]
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jurov	coinbr got two factor auth	[17:47]
mjr_	hmmm i gotta check that out	[17:47]
jurov	for withdrawals	[17:47]
mjr_	i'm in the process of setting up an ING direct account	[17:47]
mjr_	I wanted to use bitfloor	[17:47]
mjr_	any advice in that regard?	[17:48]
mjr_	mp said that they had a big issue...but other people said that they acknowledge that, but they still get money in and out	[17:48]
jurov	and i got a new record delay for mpex order surfacing.... amost one and half hour after placing three ordes surfaced and caused havoc	[17:48]
mjr_	either way, i don't want to withdraw cash just BTC	[17:48]
BingoBongo	;; ticker	[17:49]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.80000, Best ask: 20.80999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 20.80000, 24 hour volume: 71274.08274542, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.84875	[17:49]
mjr_	wait that is crazy	[17:49]
mjr_	what happened with mpex?	[17:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.009 BTC [-]	[17:49]
Bugpowder	yeah	[17:50]
Bugpowder	It fucked up my options bot too	[17:50]
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pigeons	?	[17:50]
Bugpowder	It said it accepted orders, but they did not show up in STAT or the main book	[17:50]
pigeons	oh	[17:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00068261 = 4.8465 BTC [+]	[17:51]
Bugpowder	then an hour later, they all showed up	[17:51]
Bugpowder	nice.... thru 20.80, now for 20.81 to fall	[17:51]
mjr_	yeah that sucks	[17:52]
mjr_	quick question	[17:52]
mjr_	i really want to buy sdice shares	[17:52]
mjr_	but how does that work?	[17:52]
mjr_	how are shares transferred about?	[17:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.00721182 = 0.9375 BTC [-]	[17:53]
jurov	mjr_, via coinbr you mean?	[17:53]
pigeons	yeah coinbr.com would be your best bet to start	[17:54]
pigeons	they are listed on mpex.co	[17:54]
mjr_	ok thanks	[17:54]
mjr_	i am watching them on mpex	[17:54]
mjr_	but i meant, ok i send bitcoins	[17:54]
mjr_	how do i receive shares?	[17:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10166 @ 0.00068261 = 6.9394 BTC [+]	[17:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5984 @ 0.00068325 = 4.0886 BTC [+]	[17:54]
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pigeons	you have an mpex account?	[17:54]
mjr_	no	[17:54]
mjr_	i want to eventually	[17:55]
mjr_	but for now i will go through one of the brokers i guess	[17:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.7 BTC [-]	[17:55]
pigeons	an mpex account is 30 btc, you can use coinbr instead	[17:55]
pigeons	jurov runs coinbr.com	[17:55]
mjr_	yeah i am gonna start that way	[17:55]
pigeons	he can help you out ;)	[17:55]
gesell	mjr_: use coinbr until you have more intense needs (api access or automated trading or just have enough btc invested you'd rather be closer to the exchange)	[17:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4147 @ 0.00067925 = 2.8168 BTC [-]	[17:56]
mjr_	yeah, coinbr looks awesome for my needs	[17:56]
mjr_	but again...how do i know i have the shares etc?	[17:56]
gesell	it just shows up on your account	[17:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.6 BTC [-]	[17:57]
pigeons	well jurov/coinbr holds the shares for you, but they will show in your account	[17:57]
gesell	you'll see the buy and sell go from coinbr onto mpex instantly	[17:57]
gesell	but yeah, basically coinbr owns your shares	[17:57]
gesell	or manages them for you	[17:57]
mjr_	ah ok, so technically the shares are in coinbr's name...	[17:57]
mjr_	makes sense, and thats fine	[17:57]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]	[17:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]	[17:58]
mjr_	that is how it usually works	[17:58]
mjr_	i can't wait to do this...	[17:58]
Bugpowder	well	[17:58]
mjr_	does anyone here own sdice?	[17:58]
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Bugpowder	if you want to get the dividend you shouldn't wait	[17:58]
mjr_	how often are dividends	[17:58]
Bugpowder	does anyone here NOT own sdice	[17:58]
mjr_	lol	[17:58]
Bugpowder	dividends are monthly	[17:58]
mjr_	ah ok	[17:58]
Bugpowder	and probably are coming today	[17:58]
mjr_	so not that big of a deal if i wait till next month	[17:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3501 BTC [-]	[17:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC [-]	[17:59]
mjr_	wait...they don't tell you when? AND you can buy the shares on the day of and still get in?	[17:59]
Bugpowder	well	[17:59]
Bugpowder	you can watch the performance all month	[17:59]
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mjr_	usually there is a date on which all owners of the stock get paid their dividend...but you can't just buy it the day before and get it	[17:59]
mjr_	so that is cool	[18:00]
Bugpowder	20,067.37 in profit this month	[18:00]
Bugpowder	!ticker m s.dice	[18:00]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00651702 / 0.00715008 / 0.0073786 (74563 shares, 533.13 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00722914 / 0.0075 (632931 shares, 4,575.55 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00479708 / 0.0075 (6535153 shares, 31,349.67 BTC)	[18:00]
mjr_	that is denominated in btc right?	[18:00]
Bugpowder	yah	[18:00]
Bugpowder	about 2.9% dividend at current prices.	[18:00]
Bugpowder	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dG5SQklHZG4wRm1GMW9DRWpMMW5UQkE#gid=10	[18:01]
mjr_	yeah i have that up	[18:01]
mjr_	but it lists like 80%	[18:01]
mjr_	which seemed weird	[18:01]
Bugpowder	look at the january 2013 sheet	[18:01]
Bugpowder	that is the revelant data	[18:01]
Bugpowder	;;calc 2000 / 10000000	[18:02]
gribble	0.0002	[18:02]
Bugpowder	.0002 / share	[18:02]
mjr_	why did you use that big number?	[18:02]
Bugpowder	10 million shares are on mpex	[18:02]
mjr_	if profits are 2000	[18:02]
mjr_	oh that must be the volume then right?	[18:02]
Bugpowder	10% of float = 10 million, dividend goes to all shares	[18:03]
mjr_	where it says 74563	[18:03]
Bugpowder	wat?	[18:03]
mjr_	assbot just gave out the info on sdice	[18:03]
mjr_	1d 7d 30d	[18:03]
Bugpowder	current ask is .00721	[18:03]
Bugpowder	;;calc 2000/10000000/.00721	[18:04]
gribble	0.0277392510402	[18:04]
Bugpowder	2.774 % dividend at current ask	[18:04]
mjr_	thanks	[18:04]
mjr_	still pretty sweet	[18:04]
mjr_	and that is monthly	[18:04]
mjr_	so the first page was probably talking about annualized yield assuming a much cheaper price	[18:05]
mjr_	is that right?	[18:05]
Bugpowder	yeah	[18:05]
Bugpowder	the IPO price	[18:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8426 @ 0.00066543 = 5.6069 BTC [-]	[18:06]
mjr_	i'm loving this	[18:06]
mjr_	if only it wasn't so hard to get bitcoins	[18:06]
Bugpowder	S.DICE has a profit of 1000 for Feb.	[18:06]
mjr_	wow	[18:06]
mjr_	its the first day	[18:06]
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mjr_	i know its obviously anonymous, but is there any info on where the primary demographic is located?	[18:07]
Bugpowder	nope	[18:08]
mjr_	is there any info besides the financials that we can look at?	[18:08]
mjr_	ie. growth potential	[18:08]
mjr_	how do people find out about it, and is there any effort to get the word out to more people...just curious right now how it all works	[18:08]
Bugpowder	this is a good place to start	[18:09]
Bugpowder	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.800	[18:09]
Bugpowder	or ask this guy "Guest38514 has changed nick to evoorhees"	[18:09]
jurov	mjr_ we don't even know how many ppl use bitcoins. or at least how many actually own 1BTC or more	[18:09]
mjr_	lol, yeah i know it's his company	[18:09]
mjr_	yeah, but i believe...and i could be wrong	[18:10]
mjr_	that you could see the ip address sending	[18:10]
mjr_	and at that point it is trivial to make broad strokes guesses about what region most traffic comes from	[18:10]
mjr_	obviously some may use tor	[18:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066452 = 2.8714 BTC [-]	[18:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066451 = 6.6451 BTC [-]	[18:10]
mjr_	which may skew the results	[18:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.0006645 = 2.8068 BTC [-]	[18:10]
jurov	you mean on blockchain.info? that is only ip where that site got it from	[18:10]
mjr_	huh? i mean in order to send a bitcoin, is there not any ip info?	[18:11]
jurov	yes there is some statistic about number of live nodes... but it decresases despite users' count obviously increases	[18:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00721182 = 2.8847 BTC [-]	[18:11]
jurov	cause many users use shared wallets	[18:11]
mjr_	good point	[18:11]
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Bugpowder	many of the coins from the big bettors appear to have been run thru a mixer	[18:12]
mjr_	but i was just curious as to are most users european or asian or american	[18:12]
jurov	mjr_ see google trends	[18:12]
Bugpowder	I am guessing asian	[18:12]
mjr_	awesome	[18:12]
jurov	i think we dont' have anything better	[18:12]
mjr_	that was my guess as well	[18:12]
jurov	google trends shows russia on the top :D	[18:13]
jurov	asia not so much	[18:14]
Bugpowder	for bitcoin	[18:14]
jurov	yes	[18:14]
mjr_	oh if you search satoshi dice...not enough info	[18:15]
mjr_	which makes sense	[18:15]
mjr_	as most people probably don't need to google it by the time they are in the community	[18:15]
mjr_	but also...it;s a website	[18:15]
mjr_	so if you point your browser at it	[18:15]
mjr_	he'll see the requesting ip	[18:16]
mjr_	and could make some broad guesses as to demographic	[18:16]
mjr_	if it is primarily russian, and asia is not so big yet, then growth potential is huge	[18:16]
mjr_	if it is mostly asian, with some others, growth is slower, although still i expect going to be robust	[18:16]
jurov	actually as chinese can't access google, it may be stronger there	[18:17]
mjr_	so i'm just thinking of how much of my bitcoin portfolio i would want to invest in this	[18:17]
mjr_	good point	[18:17]
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jurov	also, satoshidice isn't translated iirc. russians have less problem with english than asians	[18:18]
mjr_	it's not really super important, but emerging markets are big money, so i was curious as to expansion plans, etc, their expenses are so low	[18:18]
mjr_	localization could be a huge feature	[18:18]
jurov	heck, even MP plans to localize mpex :P	[18:19]
mjr_	i mean, i would be bullish on it regardless...the only question is how bullish	[18:19]
jurov	throw a dice on it	[18:19]
jurov	hahaha	[18:19]
mjr_	but after this convo, i think that there is a ton of growth potential	[18:19]
mjr_	lol	[18:19]
mjr_	so i am thinking that the returns will be great...appreciation and dividends	[18:20]
mjr_	i think we talked about my plan last time i was on	[18:20]
mjr_	iirc	[18:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066525 = 2.8745 BTC [+]	[18:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29279 @ 0.00066543 = 19.4831 BTC [+]	[18:20]
mjr_	30 day return from just bitcoins is around 25%	[18:20]
mjr_	but i am thinking of also using options and sdice to pad the portfolio	[18:21]
mjr_	hopefully giving investors an index of the entire bitcoin economy eventually, not just a currency index	[18:21]
mjr_	tbh...i am kinda glad that huge spike stopped, it was a bit scary	[18:22]
jurov	what about option/futures?	[18:22]
mjr_	yes	[18:22]
jurov	especially mpex futures need someone to marketmake them	[18:22]
mjr_	options, futures and sdice, bullish bitcoin portfolio	[18:22]
mjr_	i told you my plan is to open a publicly traded company in the real exchanges	[18:23]
jurov	yes i saw it	[18:23]
mjr_	to hopefully act as a bridge	[18:23]
mjr_	to channel demand into the bitcoin economy	[18:23]
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Bugpowder	bitcoin etf	[18:24]
Bugpowder	or etn	[18:24]
mjr_	so i am picturing it as an open fund, where as we release shares, we just increase our holdings, and long bitcoin bets	[18:24]
mjr_	exactly	[18:24]
mjr_	etf	[18:24]
mjr_	the requirements to get on pink sheets is ridiculously low	[18:24]
Bugpowder	so who do you know	[18:24]
mjr_	so it won't be a TRUE etf	[18:24]
mjr_	it'll be a pseudo etf	[18:25]
Bugpowder	I would like to open a real ETF	[18:25]
mjr_	but in the end after all, it will track the bitcoin economy	[18:25]
Chilca	who is currently working to open a real ETF?	[18:25]
Bugpowder	I can only imagine the regulatory shit	[18:25]
mjr_	good luck with the SEC	[18:25]
Bugpowder	it might be possible	[18:25]
Bugpowder	with the right connections and support	[18:25]
mjr_	you will need millions of dollars	[18:25]
mjr_	and that is just for lawyers and underwriters	[18:25]
Bugpowder	yes	[18:26]
Bugpowder	You would need to partner with an existing firm	[18:26]
mjr_	i think i can have mine up and running for 50k	[18:26]
mjr_	i know i can actually	[18:26]
Bugpowder	State street for example	[18:26]
mjr_	they won't do it	[18:26]
mjr_	i wish they would	[18:26]
mjr_	but they probably won't for quite some time	[18:26]
Bugpowder	how do you know	[18:26]
mjr_	i don't	[18:26]
mjr_	i am in the finance world, but i have no information about bitcoin etf's	[18:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 524 @ 0.0006645 = 0.3482 BTC [-]	[18:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066383 = 2.8684 BTC [-]	[18:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12386 @ 0.00066382 = 8.2221 BTC [-]	[18:27]
mjr_	i know some guys at goldman who are interested on a personal level	[18:27]
mjr_	but i don't think interest has percolated to an institutional level yet	[18:27]
Bugpowder	you need to know some bigger fish	[18:27]
mjr_	what i am saying is that if i knew lloyd blankfein, i couldn't get it to happne	[18:28]
Bugpowder	what is the main issue?	[18:28]
Bugpowder	regualtory complience	[18:28]
mjr_	they would politely say "that is interesting"	[18:28]
Bugpowder	exchanging into and out	[18:28]
Bugpowder	lack of market cap	[18:28]
mjr_	yes	[18:28]
mjr_	regulatory issues	[18:28]
mjr_	i don't know what the SEC would make of bitcoins	[18:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 195 @ 0.00715136 = 1.3945 BTC [-]	[18:28]
mjr_	well, if i had goldman sachs doing it, market cap wouldn't be a problem	[18:29]
mjr_	but yes, you have to capitalize it very well	[18:29]
mjr_	millions more	[18:29]
Bugpowder	I don't think it would be hard to raise millions	[18:29]
mjr_	i'm not saying it isn't possible, i'm hjust saying no one is willing to take the risk right now	[18:29]
Bugpowder	if you can create the product	[18:29]
mjr_	cuz they don't understand it	[18:29]
mjr_	once i create mine, others may follow	[18:29]
mjr_	when they see it as viable	[18:29]
Bugpowder	how do you solve the regulatory issue?	[18:30]
Chilca	I know a VC really interested to invest in VTC. so if you guys have a good plan, I can help you to introduce to him.	[18:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5110 @ 0.00066382 = 3.3921 BTC [-]	[18:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 990 @ 0.00065988 = 0.6533 BTC [-]	[18:30]
mjr_	what is vtc?	[18:30]
Bugpowder	a typo	[18:30]
mjr_	lol ok	[18:30]
mjr_	awesome	[18:30]
mjr_	well this is my plan	[18:30]
Chilca	BTC	[18:30]
mjr_	you don't even have to talk to the SEC for pink sheets	[18:30]
mjr_	it is purely a listing service	[18:31]
mjr_	not like NYSE etc	[18:31]
mjr_	you could literally create a company called ScamCorp	[18:31]
mjr_	and put it up on the pink sheets	[18:31]
mjr_	and it would not cost much, there are a million ways to go public	[18:31]
mjr_	well, ok maybe not a million	[18:32]
mjr_	but it is simple	[18:32]
mjr_	the easiest way to do ti	[18:32]
mjr_	it	[18:32]
mjr_	is a reverse merger	[18:32]
mjr_	you basically buy/merge with an existing shell corporation	[18:32]
mjr_	then change your name	[18:32]
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mjr_	boom, you are now a listed company	[18:32]
mjr_	you can also do a DPO	[18:32]
mjr_	direct public offering	[18:32]
mjr_	but that takes a little more regulatory work	[18:33]
mjr_	register with state	[18:33]
mjr_	stuff like that	[18:33]
Chilca	mjr_: where are you located?	[18:33]
mjr_	NYC	[18:33]
Bugpowder	sounds easy	[18:33]
Bugpowder	why are you not doing it	[18:33]
mjr_	yes, it is easy	[18:33]
mjr_	um...to buy a company takes money	[18:33]
Bugpowder	how much	[18:33]
mjr_	reverse merger would cost 50k maybe more	[18:33]
mjr_	and we have not even touched the issue of actually funding the fund	[18:33]
Bugpowder	funding is easy	[18:34]
Bugpowder	50k is peanuts	[18:34]
mjr_	it may well be	[18:34]
Bugpowder	for a startup	[18:34]
mjr_	but i don't have it at the moment	[18:34]
Bugpowder	or for anyone in finance.	[18:34]
mjr_	and yes its nothing for a VC	[18:34]
mjr_	i am not a CEO or something	[18:34]
Chilca	mjr_: send me a DM, we can talk privately. Maybe I can help you	[18:35]
mjr_	just an employee at a financial technology company with a couple broker dealer subsidiaries	[18:35]
Chilca	I'm on the West coast	[18:35]
mjr_	um...don't laugh, how do i send a DM	[18:35]
mjr_	i basically know how to join a group that's it	[18:36]
Chilca	mjr_: I just sent you a DM message	[18:36]
Bugpowder	"/msg"	[18:36]
Bugpowder	probably need to raise 50M to make it worth it	[18:37]
Bugpowder	manage that is	[18:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3331 @ 0.00065988 = 2.1981 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1169 @ 0.00065987 = 0.7714 BTC [-]	[18:39]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0079 = 0.0237 BTC [-]	[18:44]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3628 @ 0.00065987 = 2.394 BTC [-]	[18:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 172 @ 0.00065858 = 0.1133 BTC [-]	[18:45]
mjr_	yep	[18:47]
mjr_	a real etf will be very difficult and that is a sizable bet for something no one has heard of and dn't understand	[18:47]
mjr_	so if i start a smaller thing	[18:47]
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mjr_	and then people see that it is viable	[18:47]
tsukino	hi	[18:48]
mjr_	hi	[18:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066504 = 2.8736 BTC [+]	[18:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00066505 = 10.009 BTC [+]	[18:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4679 @ 0.00066543 = 3.1135 BTC [+]	[18:53]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066538 = 2.8751 BTC [-]	[19:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6629 @ 0.00066543 = 4.4111 BTC [+]	[19:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00711971 = 2.4919 BTC [-]	[19:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.0071197 = 8.8996 BTC [-]	[19:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.74000001 = 1.48 BTC [-]	[19:09]
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jborkl	A properly fromatted order in mpex.py? mpex.py BUY ...?	[19:13]
jborkl	formatted	[19:13]
smickles	'BUY\|IN.ASSBOT\|6\|9'	[19:16]
smickles	;)	[19:17]
smickles	it's the same as a regular mpex command	[19:17]
smickles	if you give me an example of what you want to do (in english) i'll repeat it in a pympex command	[19:17]
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jborkl	I just don't want to fuck up, so BUY S.DICE 50000 .0065	[19:19]
thestringpuller	;;ident	[19:19]
gribble	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None	[19:19]
smickles	BUY\|S.DICE\|50000\|00650000	[19:20]
jborkl	Thank you smickles	[19:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00065891 = 2.8333 BTC [-]	[19:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 559 @ 0.00715136 = 3.9976 BTC [+]	[19:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 970 @ 0.00721182 = 6.9955 BTC [+]	[19:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.0073786 = 13.6504 BTC [+]	[19:26]
gesell	google abitrage table updated with mouse over information giving exact price	[19:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2633 @ 0.00738637 = 19.4483 BTC [+]	[19:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 464 @ 0.00719797 = 3.3399 BTC [-]	[19:31]
jurov	jborkl, if you use pympex, -h shows an example	[19:33]
jborkl	oh, thanks I see that	[19:33]
thestringpuller	jurov: you are niko bellic	[19:35]
jurov	the quotes are necessary, otherwise shell will do undesirable things	[19:35]
jurov	thestringpuller wat?	[19:35]
thestringpuller	;;google niko bellic	[19:35]
gribble	Niko Bellic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Niko Bellic - GTA Wiki, the Grand Theft Auto Wiki - GTA IV, San ...: ; Grand Theft Auto IV: Niko Bellic Trailer - YouTube:	[19:35]
*	jurov looks	[19:36]
jurov	never played GTA	[19:36]
jurov	former soldier with violent past? muhahaahahaaa	[19:37]
jurov	they didn't even admit me to army cause of my deafness	[19:37]
smickles	damn, are hardcore, like they play the game of life on a higher difficulty setting than i do	[19:38]
jurov	thestringpuller, how did you came around such association?	[19:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3239 @ 0.00066071 = 2.14 BTC [+]	[19:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14019 @ 0.00066321 = 9.2975 BTC [+]	[19:38]
thestringpuller	you said you were slavic	[19:39]
kakobrekla	lol his surname is belic	[19:39]
kakobrekla	would translate to 'whitey'	[19:39]
jurov	i'm slovak. as in former czechoslovakia	[19:40]
thestringpuller	oh	[19:40]
jurov	kako here is slovenian. as in yougoslavia :D	[19:40]
jurov	*yugoslavia	[19:40]
kakobrekla	TITO!	[19:40]
thestringpuller	I feel so uncultured.. :(	[19:40]
jurov	don't worry we have fun of it	[19:41]
smickles	naw, you'r just 'merican	[19:41]
thestringpuller	it's funny how eastern europe is better at capitalism than most americans	[19:42]
thestringpuller	'murican's want entitlement	[19:42]
jurov	O.o	[19:42]
jurov	why do you think?	[19:42]
thestringpuller	Most American children from my generation believe they are entitled to a standard of living and do not have to work for it.	[19:44]
smickles	http://youtu.be/ria37d9mInY?t=4s << relevant	[19:44]
smickles	oh, wron link	[19:44]
smickles	one sec	[19:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00066321 = 8.0248 BTC [+]	[19:44]
thestringpuller	seinfeld rules though	[19:45]
smickles	http://youtu.be/kqhX_X7CN2s?t=4s	[19:45]
jurov	lol thestringpuller, you weren't around here in 1989 . everyone was thinking we are entitled to live as western europe	[19:45]
thestringpuller	lolo	[19:45]
jurov	but thee economic crunch came and everyome had to move their ass	[19:45]
jurov	except east germans	[19:46]
thestringpuller	i guess one can thank the cold war for that?	[19:46]
jurov	40 years in fridge? yeah, of course.	[19:46]
smickles	http://youtu.be/kqhX_X7CN2s?t=1m39s	[19:47]
smickles	is were it gets really good	[19:47]
smickles	noodles kid	[19:47]
smickles	listen to the way this kid describes working at noodles	[19:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00739498 = 7.395 BTC [+]	[19:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00739499 = 22.185 BTC [+]	[19:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [+]	[19:54]
jurov	oh, quite some mpex depositing action is ensuing today	[19:54]
thestringpuller	did s.dice pay divs?	[19:54]
jurov	not yet	[19:54]
thestringpuller	DeaDTerra: when's the last time you talked to Erik	[19:55]
thestringpuller	we had a meeting scheduled yesterday but I had to cancel due to work	[19:55]
jurov	it's that time every month: http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/05/14/news/web_galleries/g_weekly_animals/animals_photos013--500x380.jpg	[19:56]
gesell	added bitstamp to the google abitrage table, as well as the google libraries "bitcoin utilities" I think im done for now https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AguYZ5-dWMgfdElhakdHQzhiQXp5emctdjZTNG9qaEE&usp=sharing	[20:02]
gesell	updates once every minute	[20:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 17 @ 0.009 = 0.153 BTC [-]	[20:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 42 @ 0.0091 = 0.3822 BTC [+]	[20:02]
gesell	seems bitcoin-central kind of sucks	[20:03]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0092 = 0.46 BTC [+]	[20:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00065891 = 0.0138 BTC [-]	[20:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065859 = 2.8458 BTC [-]	[20:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3658 @ 0.00065858 = 2.4091 BTC [-]	[20:09]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0245 = 2.45 BTC [-]	[20:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]	[20:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1631 @ 0.00066321 = 1.0817 BTC [+]	[20:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066542 = 2.8753 BTC [+]	[20:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066542 = 2.8753 BTC [+]	[20:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5190 @ 0.00066543 = 3.4536 BTC [+]	[20:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7287 @ 0.00066655 = 4.8571 BTC [+]	[20:19]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00739498 = 2.958 BTC [-]	[20:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00739499 = 2.2185 BTC [+]	[20:21]
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maximian	look at them sweet, sweet s.dice profits: http://blockchain.info/address/1GS6iZkXMd2sL4tBHTVG1L7Gg6FjNPWYP1	[20:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065897 = 2.8474 BTC [-]	[20:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00065865 = 0.8424 BTC [-]	[20:28]
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ssssssss	!help	[20:35]
assbot	List of commands:	[20:35]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)	[20:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065878 = 2.8466 BTC [+]	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065875 = 2.8465 BTC [-]	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15558 @ 0.00065865 = 10.2473 BTC [-]	[20:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3163 @ 0.00065865 = 2.0833 BTC [-]	[20:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2156 @ 0.00065858 = 1.4199 BTC [-]	[20:38]
Bugpowder	maximian Noice	[20:40]
Bugpowder	$21	[20:40]
Bugpowder	NOICE	[20:41]
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maximian	and you can see that 2,005.05917863 of it was sent to mpex	[20:41]
Bugpowder	yup	[20:42]
Bugpowder	brace yourselves	[20:42]
Bugpowder	a dividend is coming	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8724 @ 0.00065858 = 5.7455 BTC [-]	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6735 @ 0.00065771 = 4.4297 BTC [-]	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5880 @ 0.00065766 = 3.867 BTC [-]	[20:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1177 @ 0.00734696 = 8.6474 BTC [-]	[20:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.79 = 7.11 BTC [+]	[20:50]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00065766 = 1.9401 BTC [-]	[20:52]
Bugpowder	;;ticker	[20:54]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.92002, Best ask: 21.00999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last trade: 20.92001, 24 hour volume: 51619.16184093, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.24500, 24 hour vwap: 20.74138	[20:54]
Bugpowder	rally on	[20:55]
error4733	rally4ever	[20:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 317 @ 0.00734696 = 2.329 BTC [-]	[21:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1229 @ 0.00723267 = 8.889 BTC [-]	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	hey all	[21:02]
jurov	'ello	[21:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066635 = 2.8793 BTC [+]	[21:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9030 @ 0.00066655 = 6.0189 BTC [+]	[21:02]
*	mircea_popescu reads up teh pages	[21:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.785 = 3.925 BTC [-]	[21:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.79 = 11.85 BTC [+]	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	usually there is a date on which all owners << yeah, there's no postdate.	[21:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2221 @ 0.00723267 = 16.0638 BTC [-]	[21:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 679 @ 0.00721781 = 4.9009 BTC [-]	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	with the right connections and support << would be pretty grand.	[21:06]
jurov	it's YOU	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	BUY\|S.DICE\|50000\|00650000 << do you find it more convenient with the lead 0s ?	[21:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1433 @ 0.00066655 = 0.9552 BTC [+]	[21:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066819 = 2.8872 BTC [+]	[21:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5474 @ 0.0006682 = 3.6577 BTC [+]	[21:08]
jurov	;)	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	except east germans << east german girls still had to move their ass...	[21:09]
jurov	deadterra, i have uncredited deposits, too. stay in queue. :)	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	lol lessee here.	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	ok, deposits flushed.	[21:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 26666 @ 0.00739499 = 197.1948 BTC [+]	[21:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 480 @ 0.00739499 = 3.5496 BTC [+]	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	so about webserver desync earlier : mpex uses a (trade server) - (web server) architecture. you can't talk to the trade engine directly.	[21:14]
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mircea_popescu	that link can get broken, it shouldn't happen to often but it does happen	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	the result is new trades not being reported. they DO happen, you just don't hear about them.	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	basically what happens is you send order X, mpex says "will be processed" and "nothing happens".	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	something does happen, you just don't hear about it till the webserver resyncs	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	working to make all this smoother, but traffic just keeps going up.	[21:16]
Namworld	Ah, you will need to add a server or two maybe.	[21:17]
Namworld	Looks like MPEx is growing	[21:17]
jurov	the issue is that after desync is done, one ends up with bunch of only weakly identifiable transactions	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	jurov the thing is tho, order of orders is preserved	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	you should be able to recognise them by the order you put them in	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	is that problematic ?	[21:19]
jurov	but i mean order of trades, are they in any useful order?	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	um.	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	you put order A in. then B. then C.	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	when server resyncs order execution is reported ABC	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	not CAB or w/e	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	suppose you do SELL\|X\|1000 then SELL\|X\|1000	[21:21]
jurov	you mean the "TradeHistory" part of statjson?	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	when mpes says 500@3 200@4 300@5 750@6	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	this means first 1k executed 3,4,5 and 750 of the 2nd 1k executed 6	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	one second i'll check on trade history too so i don't say something stupid	[21:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00739499 = 9.9832 BTC [+]	[21:22]
jurov	i have no issue with "Book" part. once order appears ther all is willy nilly.	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	jurov trade history is also sorted list.descending, historically.	[21:24]
jurov	first by order, then by time?	[21:25]
jborkl	is there a ex-div date, or what the server has in it the second the div is pushed?	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	jurov what do you mean first by order ?	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	jborkl no exdate. whoever has shares when divs are pushed gets divs.	[21:26]
jborkl	Thanks	[21:26]
jurov	just a small confusion, yes they are by time	[21:27]
DeadWeasel	anyone else getting a 502 bad gateway nginx error on bitcointalk forum?	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	jurov yeah, time only. not sorted by whether you buy or sell or anything else.	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	DeadWeasel forum is kinda on/off. too much trolling	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	jurov now, all that aside, webserver desyncs really should not happen.	[21:29]
DeadWeasel	okie doke. thx.	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	and so working on it.	[21:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.789 = 1.578 BTC [-]	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.dice	[21:30]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00665746 / 0.00728093 / 0.00739499 (112603 shares, 819.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00723815 / 0.0075 (680391 shares, 4,924.77 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00481919 / 0.0075 (6561890 shares, 31,623.06 BTC)	[21:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065777 = 2.8422 BTC [-]	[21:31]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00065773 = 3.1999 BTC [-]	[21:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [+]	[21:31]
jurov	thanks, just last question. when he trades have same timestamp, can i assume any secondary ordering?	[21:32]
jurov	such as, trades for older orders are further to the end of the list?	[21:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066001 = 2.8519 BTC [+]	[21:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12529 @ 0.00066006 = 8.2699 BTC [+]	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	jurov when i say they're ordered historically i mean they're ordered in the absolute historical sense. if there's five orders on the same timestamp they're in the order they were received.	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	if you use a single thread this would be equal to the order you sent them in	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	but i guess if you open multiple sessions things may well get quantumified.	[21:36]
jurov	sure i do... can't have users blocking each other :P	[21:37]
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mircea_popescu	well then we're fucked.	[21:38]
jurov	o far i'm only fixing things manually every few days. time well paid. maybe i'll outsource it :D	[21:40]
jurov	was also thinking to reserve right to change last satoshi for order identification purposes	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	how'd that last satoshi thing work ?	[21:41]
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jurov	the problem actually arises only if there are simultaneous orders with exactly same price	[21:41]
jurov	but as the last digit is fully relevant this isn't the way to go	[21:42]
jurov	so this will have to wait till i buy more accounts	[21:43]
jurov	so i can spread such orders	[21:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065788 = 2.8427 BTC [-]	[21:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9329 @ 0.00065773 = 6.136 BTC [-]	[21:44]
jurov	or when you provide better match info	[21:44]
jurov	(easy decision for mpex, lol)	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	lol.	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	now re the other thing : i can't readily use a hash of the order itself as the only identifier cause the one time there's a collision i'm going to be so fucked there's no telling.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	i could use it as an extra field, but the db bloat may be an issue.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	it certainly was discussed before.	[21:46]
jurov	there will be much sooner bit flip from cosmic rays than sha1 collision	[21:46]
jurov	and if it's auxiliary field, something like 10chars fro the hash is sufficient	[21:46]
jurov	collision still almost impossible	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	well, if it's auxiliary, collision does not matter at all.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	even if it's 2 bytes, your odds to create a 2 byte collision... heh.	[21:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065985 = 2.8512 BTC [+]	[21:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14321 @ 0.00066006 = 9.4527 BTC [+]	[21:49]
jurov	lol, worrying about sha1(order+signature) collisions... it's like mpex is going to become used across whole multiverse	[21:55]
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mircea_popescu	you don't know my luck.	[21:59]
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jurov	maybe there's a bounty to make sha1 collision of meaningful strings.. so you'll get rewarded then	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	but they're not meaningful at all.	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066804 = 2.8866 BTC [+]	[22:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13726 @ 0.0006682 = 9.1717 BTC [+]	[22:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1753 @ 0.00066863 = 1.1721 BTC [+]	[22:01]
jurov	i meant, it's no on-purpose generated input on hash. they are signed mpex orders that must observe some pretty tightly defined format.	[22:02]
smickles	mircea_popescu: yeah, the leading zeros help me conceive the number. I mentally break it into two groups of four	[22:03]
jurov	lol i read that as deceive	[22:04]
smickles	;)	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	jurov a i c what you mean	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	smickles cool. still coming to terms wuith the ergonomics of this entire satoshi insanity.	[22:05]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140541.0	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	apparently there's still people with balances on intersangro !?	[22:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006641 = 2.8696 BTC [-]	[22:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00066384 = 1.1146 BTC [-]	[22:09]
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smickles	;;ticker	[22:12]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 20.85001, Best ask: 20.99660, Bid-ask spread: 0.14659, Last trade: 20.85001, 24 hour volume: 50983.80273450, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.24500, 24 hour vwap: 20.72846	[22:12]
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mircea_popescu	so basically... nothinfg happened	[22:14]
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mircea_popescu	network still at ~25th	[22:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00066384 = 7.0035 BTC [-]	[22:16]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9529 @ 0.00066384 = 6.3257 BTC [-]	[22:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7397 @ 0.00066163 = 4.8941 BTC [-]	[22:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.79 = 4.74 BTC [+]	[22:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00066656 = 2.3663 BTC [+]	[22:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066819 = 2.8872 BTC [+]	[22:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8584 @ 0.0006682 = 5.7358 BTC [+]	[22:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4603 @ 0.00066163 = 3.0455 BTC [-]	[22:32]
ssssssss	hi... anyone experienced with Irc bots? I mean to install and support a channel	[22:33]
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jurov	ask kakobrekla	[22:35]
jurov	but it isn't rocket science	[22:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00729646 = 2.9186 BTC [-]	[22:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00728887 = 5.8311 BTC [-]	[22:37]
DeadWeasel	try #bitcoin-bots	[22:39]
DeadWeasel	or say #irc-bots ?	[22:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065774 = 2.8421 BTC [-]	[22:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10956 @ 0.00065773 = 7.2061 BTC [-]	[22:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4323 @ 0.00065766 = 2.8431 BTC [-]	[22:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 5 @ 0.22139121 = 1.107 BTC [+]	[22:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065802 = 2.8433 BTC [+]	[22:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5994 @ 0.00065766 = 3.942 BTC [-]	[22:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 285 @ 0.00065563 = 0.1869 BTC [-]	[22:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065579 = 2.8337 BTC [+]	[22:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19915 @ 0.00065563 = 13.0569 BTC [-]	[22:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00065502 = 6.845 BTC [-]	[22:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00065476 = 5.5982 BTC [-]	[22:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14764 @ 0.00065408 = 9.6568 BTC [-]	[22:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00065408 = 2.0276 BTC [-]	[22:49]
Namworld	Who needs an autoupdating portfolio?	[22:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9736 @ 0.00065408 = 6.3681 BTC [-]	[22:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00065293 = 9.2063 BTC [-]	[22:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00065278 = 9.9223 BTC [-]	[22:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11679 @ 0.00065239 = 7.6193 BTC [-]	[22:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4871 @ 0.00065238 = 3.1777 BTC [-]	[22:50]
Bugpowder	mine could be improved	[22:50]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00065238 = 4.8929 BTC [-]	[22:53]
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pigeons	Ukto: cute icons on bitfunder	[23:01]
Ukto	was Fortress' idea	[23:02]
Ukto	he asked for an icon for his, so I made one for sdice too	[23:02]
Ukto	did you see teh favicon he made for us? :)	[23:02]
pigeons	ah now i see, nice	[23:04]
dub	mircea_popescu: where are you getting net speed from? I think regardless of where its too noisy to infer much from spot checks	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	dub i reverse it based on block freq	[23:05]
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mircea_popescu	it's certainly noisy	[23:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7121 @ 0.00065238 = 4.6456 BTC [-]	[23:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00065226 = 3.8672 BTC [-]	[23:07]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00065226 = 1.1878 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9703 @ 0.0006518 = 6.3244 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6026 @ 0.00065141 = 3.9254 BTC [-]	[23:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 270 @ 0.00739499 = 1.9966 BTC [+]	[23:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8 @ 0.00739499 = 0.0592 BTC [+]	[23:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065142 = 6.5142 BTC [+]	[23:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13952 @ 0.00065141 = 9.0885 BTC [-]	[23:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9359 @ 0.00065091 = 6.0919 BTC [-]	[23:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2757 @ 0.0006507 = 1.794 BTC [-]	[23:17]
*	gigavps_ has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[23:18]
*	rdponticelli has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)	[23:31]
*	rdponticelli (~rdpontice@gateway/tor-sasl/rdponticelli) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065708 = 2.8392 BTC [+]	[23:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21113 @ 0.00065709 = 13.8731 BTC [+]	[23:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3916 @ 0.00066031 = 2.5858 BTC [+]	[23:35]
Chilca	mircea_popescu: hey are you there?	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	yea	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	Chilca sup ?	[23:42]
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*	wences (~chippewa_@195.sub-70-199-87.myvzw.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:58]

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