Forum logs for 31 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
ben_vulpes * asciilifeform [] knows how/why but still bewildered that no one has at any point seen it fit to bolt on basic sanity << features, bro [00:00]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: "block height" << excellent question [00:00]
mircea_popescu 0.5.3 was march-ish 2012. about 170k [00:02]
ben_vulpes "git" shows sun march 11 2012 as last commit at ref tagged as v0.5.3 [00:02]
mircea_popescu nah pretty sure it was spring. [00:03]
ben_vulpes march *is* spring [00:03]
mircea_popescu o nm i read the 11th as a month [00:03]
mircea_popescu march yes. [00:03]
mircea_popescu the logical thing to do, for it, would be to jettison the entire orphanage if approaching the hard limit << this may be a good idea, if actually something's needed. [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56050 @ 0.00040626 = 22.7709 BTC [-] [00:04]
asciilifeform needs replacement std::allocator - proggy is not normally aware of own footprint [00:06]
mircea_popescu myeah. [00:06]
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* ben_vulpes just observed an interesting [00:07]
asciilifeform even if for some peculiar reason it were not possible to reduce consumption, the thing ought to know when about to be killed - and shoot itself in the head with some decorum, rather than wait [00:07]
ben_vulpes toolbox on the table has a top tray and a bottom tray, connected by parallel braces, mounted at identically-spaced points on both trays. trays move on an arc defined by mechanisms constraints. [00:08]
* asciilifeform has one of these [00:08]
ben_vulpes there's an interesting configuration of the trays where the center of gravity of the top tray is balances the CoG of the bottom tray. this requires torquing the whole assembly such that the CoG's go in a funny place. [00:09]
hanbot ben_vulpes it's a trap! [00:10]
mircea_popescu vulpes is home alone and trying to find alternative passtimes to masturbation. [00:10]
ben_vulpes resulting in the thing resting at the unstable point at the top of the arc. [00:10]
ben_vulpes i'd post a pic but...le "smart"phone. [00:11]
ben_vulpes anyways, the parallels between how bitcoind only accidentally works and misc odd behaviors of this ancient floppy plastic toolbox are very apparent to me at precisely this moment. [00:11]
ben_vulpes a thing i learned about engineering when i was...oh, six...was that the steam engine doesn't just work because doodz sat and tweaked at it until everything went around just rightly. [00:12]
ben_vulpes no [00:12]
ben_vulpes someone *designed* each and every mechanism to work together. [00:12]
ben_vulpes if you'll forgive the rant, this is what the satoshi codebase lacks. [00:12]
ben_vulpes a coherent vision of how all of the parts interact, the emergent behaviors of the system and a robustish bit of software that can make sense of the system. [00:13]
mircea_popescu dude. [00:14]
mircea_popescu it's a prototype. [00:14]
mircea_popescu it was never seriously supposed to work, and it was specifically not intended to be used. [00:14]
mircea_popescu but... "the community" [00:14]
ben_vulpes once it worked, though, it was doomed to work. [00:15]
ben_vulpes "software never fails", and so on. [00:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform well actually, the thing could just look at how much memory it can allocate and then never outpace it. [00:15]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yeah. [00:15]
ben_vulpes kinda fascinating [00:16]
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ben_vulpes it's almost as though the satoshi codebase were a projection of software that knows how to talk to the one! true! bitcoin protocol. [00:16]
mircea_popescu something simple like, "whenever a parentless block is handed over the retaining of which would cause memory pool for holding parentless blocks to be overrun, a) drop the handed block ; b) close the connection and ban that peer for half hour ; c) discard all chains of parentless blocks longer than six items ; d) connect again" [00:17]
mircea_popescu !up teek [00:17]
-assbot- You voiced teek for 30 minutes. [00:17]
* assbot gives voice to teek [00:17]
ben_vulpes should really ask for specific blocks and drop all unasked for [00:18]
mircea_popescu this ensures that trying to ram-dos the node would require as many different nodes as a fifth of the total number of blocks it can hold. [00:18]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes that's not how this works tho [00:19]
ben_vulpes pardon? [00:19]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: pardon? [00:19]
mircea_popescu you don't ask for bloicks [00:19]
ben_vulpes inv cannot be used for block retrieval? [00:20]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: straight to jurov's www [00:21]
mircea_popescu yeh [00:21]
asciilifeform http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=0.5.3.1 [00:21]
assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/main.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9q3cd ) [00:21]
asciilifeform incidentally [00:21]
asciilifeform the testatron just now outpaced the 'pogo.' [00:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw, you're writing me a letter right ? [00:21]
asciilifeform yes. [00:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92785 @ 0.00041141 = 38.1727 BTC [+] [00:30]
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hanbot friendly reminder to not go to the library horny: http://www.inquisitr.com/1802797/kendra-sunderland-admits-to-filming-library-sex-video/ [00:33]
assbot Kendra Sunderland Admits To Filming Library Sex Video ... ( http://bit.ly/1yOZxyb ) [00:34]
mircea_popescu is she the short sweet ass ? [00:34]
hanbot i dunno anything about her ass other than it being in the wrong jurisdiction [00:36]
mircea_popescu http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z_FoybKuEX4/U5kM8U4ojmI/AAAAAAAAE3Q/aEy-LTb80Wc/s1600/steph-kegels-library-cam-1.gif [00:37]
mircea_popescu her. [00:37]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yP0rLh ) [00:37]
mircea_popescu best library slut so far. [00:38]
hanbot nah, apparently that one wasn't indecent enough for a year of jail [00:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00041625 = 2.8513 BTC [+] [00:39]
mircea_popescu she takes it pretty far, eventually is all naked [00:40]
mircea_popescu clearly enjoying herself too, which goes a long way [00:40]
cazalla i remember seeing that and thinking surely it's staged [00:40]
mircea_popescu doubt it. [00:40]
mircea_popescu the budgets these girls make work... [00:41]
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* assbot removes voice from teek [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70971 @ 0.00043627 = 30.9625 BTC [+] {3} [00:47]
BingoBoingo davout: How is the new Qntra mobile experience? [00:48]
TomServo BingoBoingo: Looking very nice over here. [00:49]
BingoBoingo TomServo: Thanks. [00:49]
cazalla wow, they fkn locked the fork off thread because hey.. can't have actual blocksize increase discussion can you.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.0 [00:54]
assbot Fork off ... ( http://bit.ly/1LtsZ75 ) [00:54]
mircea_popescu lolwut [00:55]
decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-01-2015#998153 << solution: only signed packets get to initiate transactions on your node? [00:55]
assbot Logged on 30-01-2015 05:39:06; asciilifeform: likewise, the orphans thing is an easy ddos vector [00:55]
decimation lolz "Implicit in the the nature of the location an the assertion of the police station being a "safe space" for conducting commerce is that this location open 24 hours a day and 7 days per week is under constant surveillance." << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2015#979013 [00:59]
assbot Logged on 16-01-2015 04:45:31; mircea_popescu: you're stuck hiding in your gated compound from imaginary niggers. [00:59]
mircea_popescu heh [01:00]
decimation I like that line, because it summarizes the activity of about 90% of the american 'security state' [01:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47700 @ 0.00041625 = 19.8551 BTC [-] [01:06]
trinque mobile qntra looks great! [01:08]
BingoBoingo Thanks [01:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100982 @ 0.00042291 = 42.7063 BTC [+] {2} [01:14]
asciilifeform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.msg10295619#msg10295619 << mega-lol [01:14]
assbot Fork off ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKXNph ) [01:14]
asciilifeform so -that- was the 'run into the ground' thing [01:14]
* asciilifeform was never able to read the phorum for more than a few min. at a stretch [01:15]
decimation !rate midnightmagic 1 is not a seditionist [01:15]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8e94f27ac151c909 [01:15]
asciilifeform 'Any more information on this? The fact that he is secretly building 10k nodes on a network with 7k active nodes and dropping is a concern in itself and makes me want to support Gavin's hardfork even more so.' [01:17]
* asciilifeform chokes from lulz [01:17]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [01:19]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3FEMWNP.txt ) [01:19]
decimation asciilifeform: you are a seditionist apparently [01:20]
asciilifeform how classy [01:20]
decimation why didn't you bring your concerns to the community so they can try and find a solution together? [01:20]
decimation voice, not exit [01:20]
asciilifeform and here i was, thinking i'll have to hang for jaywalking [01:20]
asciilifeform 'Gavin's testing of 20MB blocks shows that loading (disk io) for these is 4x faster than 20 1MB blocks.' << did someone actually make this argument ? [01:23]
asciilifeform disk readahead caches, etc. evidently never happened? [01:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21819 @ 0.00043956 = 9.5908 BTC [+] [01:24]
* asciilifeform must have awakened in parallel universe [01:24]
BingoBoingo New Speak [01:24]
decimation asciilifeform: how can 20 MB 'load' faster than 20 MB? [01:24]
BingoBoingo Also for inquirers into the new qntra bsns http://validator.w3.org/unicorn/check?ucn_uri=qntra.net&doctype=Inline&charset=%28detect%20automatically%29&ucn_task=conformance# [01:24]
assbot Result for http://qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKZgfq ) [01:24]
asciilifeform decimation: fragmentation & seek penalty on ancient mechanical drives ? [01:25]
asciilifeform decimation: plus an obligatory helping of os brain damage [01:25]
decimation I guess. Like is he literally comparing fread(20MB) vs 20x fread(1MB)? [01:25]
asciilifeform assuming there was any actual comparison [01:25]
asciilifeform they sure don't make lying sc4mz0rz like they used to. [01:26]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It used to be they couldn't fake as many [01:27]
decimation well, apparently no one can inspect anything at the layer below 'libc' [01:27]
asciilifeform forget the source; evidently, books - do not exist [01:28]
Apocalyptic wow, they fkn locked the fork off thread because hey.. can't have actual blocksize increase discussion can you.. // this is outrageous, but not unexpected [01:29]
BingoBoingo Books are for those with a Book budget [01:29]
asciilifeform or a set of legs [01:29]
asciilifeform libraries - not banned yet [01:30]
asciilifeform (though it is being worked on) [01:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53221 @ 0.00041346 = 22.0048 BTC [-] {2} [01:30]
decimation asciilifeform: most 'modern' libraries have slowly self-banned books [01:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00040859 = 3.1257 BTC [-] [01:31]
mircea_popescu so -that- was << myeah lel. [01:31]
decimation they are 'too expensive', and generally disfavored over other 'media' and 'meeting spaces' [01:31]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But using legs option for the book budget costs time other wise spent in the Herp pile [01:31]
asciilifeform laugh if you will, but i'm still trying to apprehend what it is 'most people' actually -do- with their time [01:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform> "makes me want to" clearly the intensity of desire is related to the effectuality of results. [01:32]
decimation derp on irc? [01:32]
mircea_popescu (law of attraction) [01:32]
asciilifeform just how many hours can one wank in one sitting [01:32]
mircea_popescu depends if they touch the wiener or not. [01:32]
mircea_popescu if they don't... many. [01:32]
asciilifeform doesn't sound like much fun [01:32]
BingoBoingo I believe the technical term is "Circlejerk" as in formally with a bunch of fellows sitting around a bottle of lube they all Herp their Derp [01:33]
BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/3OLI0Kx.gif [01:35]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIjPOa ) [01:35]
mircea_popescu decimation> I guess. Like is he literally comparing fread(20MB) vs 20x fread(1MB)? << the guy's technical incompetence is not just amusing in itself, [01:37]
mircea_popescu but in what it reveals of teh retarded follower set. [01:37]
mircea_popescu maybe they should want really hard for fread to act differently ? [01:37]
asciilifeform oughta phone poettering. [01:37]
asciilifeform he'll help. [01:37]
mircea_popescu where was that bit about ls implementations that take less than half the ram are fat shaming and therefore not allowed ? [01:38]
asciilifeform was it dan mocsny? [01:38]
asciilifeform i definitely recall he was 'advocating' for 'diversity' in petri dishes, in every lab!!!11!! in one post [01:39]
mircea_popescu nah some recently linked spoof of feministos [01:39]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo dude those rats are fucking adorkable. [01:39]
asciilifeform as with many idiocies, this one may be approaching 'parody event horizon' where the reality is not readily distinguishable from the spoof world [01:40]
mircea_popescu right. [01:40]
cazalla aaand gavin appears in the new blocksize thread after previous one was locked https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10315826#msg10315826 [01:40]
assbot Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1uL12NC ) [01:40]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Seriously [01:40]
mircea_popescu cazalla lol they made a new one without all the inconvenient stuff in it ? [01:40]
mircea_popescu why does gavin behave exactly like a cheap forum scammor ? [01:40]
cazalla i guess OP might've locked the first one but who really knows [01:41]
mircea_popescu is it perhaps because the path of evil is really quite narrow ? funel shaped at first, line thin six months later ? [01:41]
BingoBoingo https://github.com/The-Feminist-Software-Foundation/ToleranUX << The Inclusive not *nix [01:41]
assbot The-Feminist-Software-Foundation/ToleranUX · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1uL16Ne ) [01:41]
danielpbarron "The video was leaked by either another student on the OSU campus, or another web cam model from Romania." << from the naked library video thing [01:42]
danielpbarron the "fork off" thread looks like it was closed by railzand https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.msg10303614#msg10303614 [01:42]
assbot Fork off ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIl7sz ) [01:42]
mircea_popescu "If bitcoin costs 4 dollars to teleport "virtual gold" , I'm going to switch to an alt that can allow me to teleport another form of "virtual gold" for a couple pennies." [01:42]
mircea_popescu thjat part was pretty good. [01:42]
mircea_popescu if the world were signficiantly impacted by people whose choices are governed by the difference between 4 bux and "pennies", we could just burn it, for it failed. [01:42]
mircea_popescu no wonder he eats shit. i've yet to see food at 4 dollars. [01:43]
cazalla BingoBoingo, is that FSF a good troll or what? [01:43]
BingoBoingo It is indeed a good troll [01:43]
decimation what about the poor russian family who was trying to move 50 bux? [01:43]
mircea_popescu i dunno, how about the wife starts camming ? [01:43]
BingoBoingo decimation: Their optimal solution was actually using Western Union and him buying BTC in Russia where the liwuidity is [01:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00040859 = 11.1749 BTC [-] [01:44]
mircea_popescu lmao & gavin [01:44]
mircea_popescu "I think we should target somebody with a "pretty good" computer and a "pretty good" home internet connection." [01:44]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/you-are-poor-lolz/ [01:44]
mircea_popescu BECAUSE ACCESSIBILITY DRIVES ADOPTION!!!1 [01:44]
mircea_popescu the logic of logical logicians, also internet economists and generally stupid fat people. [01:45]
* asciilifeform goes to buy a Pretty Good Computer [01:45]
asciilifeform do they still have those. [01:45]
BingoBoingo Pogo is pretty good computer [01:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113650 @ 0.00040657 = 46.2067 BTC [-] [01:45]
asciilifeform l0l [01:45]
asciilifeform seems like BingoBoingo has not tried it yet [01:45]
BingoBoingo Or at least somewhat adequate computer for a fifth of cheap whiskey [01:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i think the girl contributing to the computer community over at best buy would go "do you want good or do you want pretty ?" [01:46]
BingoBoingo I have not tried it, but it seems like the most computer you can get for the equivalent of a fifth of Evan Williams [01:46]
* asciilifeform realized that BingoBoingo could actually get vga on that thing, if he wanted, using one of the ubiquitous usb2 framebuffer boxes [01:46]
BingoBoingo Indeed [01:46]
BingoBoingo And qntra is now VGA friendly-er for readers [01:47]
asciilifeform http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product/sku/3967421 [01:47]
* asciilifeform ^ has bag of these [01:47]
assbot HP USB Graphics Adapter - USB video cards - HP: NL571AA [01:47]
mircea_popescu "Hello, My name is Manikanteswar, Business Executive Media Buying for Capslock Digital Solutions Pvt Ltd (www.capslocknetwork.com), one of the biggest upcoming Ad Network in the Industry. I'm contacting you as we are looking for inventory like yours and we are ready to discuss the terms of a very profitable partnership. " [01:48]
mircea_popescu cazalla you folks got one of these ? [01:48]
asciilifeform http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/FB_UDL.html << driver [01:48]
assbot Linux Kernel Driver DataBase: CONFIG_FB_UDL: Displaylink USB Framebuffer support ... ( http://bit.ly/1uL28ZA ) [01:48]
cazalla mircea_popescu, nope [01:49]
mircea_popescu hm i guess im speshul [01:50]
cazalla BingoBoingo has made room for adverts on the left/right side of qntra so we're ready for gaw miners adverts though [01:51]
mircea_popescu lol [01:51]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Actually I dunno how to fill those spaces. I just made em. No idea how to fill them. [01:52]
mircea_popescu i dun think qntra is advertising huh. [01:52]
decimation asciilifeform: do you (safely) examine the various malware turds that end up in your domain mailbox? [01:53]
BingoBoingo Well, eventually is possible for some levels of eventually. We just need companies to emerge which would find advertising on qntra an economic proposition. [01:53]
decimation I suspect one can learn much about malware by putting out a few honeypots [01:53]
asciilifeform decimation: occasionally [01:53]
asciilifeform decimation: not long ago, i did this for a living. [01:53]
decimation or just rain buckets [01:53]
asciilifeform it wasn't just from one spambox of course. [01:54]
decimation I would guess that most malware is trivally derived from some toolkit [01:54]
asciilifeform 80-90% of what i saw was a variation on some very tired theme. [01:54]
asciilifeform at least half the time - 'zeus' et al. [01:54]
mircea_popescu "It's hard to take any of his thoughts seriously when he says stuff like 'libertard', which isn't clear what that has to do with his main point, or if he means retarded liberal or libertarian." [01:55]
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mircea_popescu /r/anarcho-stuff does not like me because it is not directly clear what side of a meaningless debate i favor! [01:56]
decimation in theory, a libertarian is in favor of freedom from the state, but in practice they generally find themselves to be enslaved by statist liberals [01:58]
mircea_popescu but notice the guy who essentially says, "i can not eat this butter because it doesn't come in a properly labelled box" [01:58]
mircea_popescu i have seen this irl, incidentally. lots of traditional products come in no box. such as smoked trout in pine leaf, or a certain type of cheese in pine bark [01:59]
mircea_popescu or on it goes. [01:59]
mircea_popescu i personally loathe labels and take them off pretty much everything, but apparently the converse mental condition also exists. [01:59]
asciilifeform srsly ?!! [01:59]
mircea_popescu "you're really good but we can't hire you because no diploma" [01:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes ? [01:59]
asciilifeform diploma - sure [01:59]
asciilifeform cheese? [01:59]
mircea_popescu yep. you need nothing more than your own fucking nose to distinguish cheese. [02:00]
asciilifeform i was having this dispute with pet not long ago. whether anyone voluntarily eats synthetic cheese [02:00]
mircea_popescu ;;google brinza de burduf in scoarta de brad [02:00]
asciilifeform it finds its way into spots where its presence cannot be explained by mere pauperism [02:00]
gribble Bucegi Farm: ; Ferma Bucegi: Branza de Burduf in coaja de brad: ; Branza de burduf - YouTube: [02:00]
asciilifeform some folks, it appears, actually insist on it [02:01]
asciilifeform through childhood habit, brain damage, or some other cause [02:01]
mircea_popescu http://www.informal.ro/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/burduf-3.jpg << this guy [02:01]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1uL3MKH ) [02:01]
asciilifeform incidentally (non-u.s. folks) if you visit usa and are offered 'american cheese' - run, not walk, to exit [02:01]
decimation asciilifeform: you wouldn't prefer a slice of 'velveeta' to a block of cheddar of known provenance? [02:01]
asciilifeform 'velveeta' iirc isn't even a dairy product [02:02]
asciilifeform 100% petro [02:02]
BingoBoingo 'velveeta' iirc isn't even a dairy product << Velveeta is totally a dairy byproduct [02:02]
mircea_popescu hm... i wonder how good of an anal lube it makes. [02:02]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what's that made in? a pipe ? [02:02]
decimation nah I think it has milk in it [02:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a chunk of pine bark [02:02]
asciilifeform neato [02:03]
* asciilifeform wants [02:03]
decimation "In 2002, the FDA issued a Warning Letter to Kraft that Velveeta was being sold with packaging that described it as a "Pasteurized Process Cheese Spread",[8] which the FDA claimed was misbranded because the product declared milk protein concentrate (MPC) in its ingredients listing. Velveeta is now sold in the US as a "Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product",[9] a term for which the FDA does not maintain a standard of identity, and which [02:03]
decimation therefore may contain MPC." [02:03]
asciilifeform i've also seen term 'cheese food' [02:03]
decimation now, I doubt cheetos contain any actual cheese [02:04]
BingoBoingo Cheese food is a plentiful byproduct here. [02:04]
decimation I prefer a good sharp cheddar from the southwest uk [02:05]
trinque what's the opposite of eugenics? [02:06]
trinque that's what kraft is [02:06]
asciilifeform ;;ud cruft [02:06]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cruft | cruft. 1. The dust that gathers underneath a bed, 2. Shoddily constructed or made, 3. Bad code, 4. Accumulated physical or virtual junk. Jim had to spend several ... [02:06]
trinque anyone who thinks that's food is being slowly turned into a subspecies over the generations [02:06]
asciilifeform ^ specifically the substance that gathers in mice, keyboards [02:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150795 @ 0.00041315 = 62.301 BTC [+] {2} [02:06]
trinque ah dysgenics, makes sense [02:07]
BingoBoingo The greatest crime of American cheese is that it is radically overpriced as a nutritional measure of last resort. [02:08]
cazalla BingoBoingo, turn your adblocker off qntra.net and tell me what you think.. http://i.imgur.com/TW5xwBD.png [02:08]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIqBna ) [02:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 199700 @ 0.00042386 = 84.6448 BTC [+] {3} [02:09]
trinque paybase...walmart...bahahhaha [02:09]
BingoBoingo cazalla: That shoop must've taken time [02:09]
cazalla 5m if that [02:10]
BingoBoingo Well it demonstrates there is space. [02:11]
trinque I'd rather you do the trilema thing than put ads [02:12]
BingoBoingo Prolly not shooped https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2u93qq/gaw_cloud_mining_disabled/ [02:12]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [02:12]
assbot GAW Cloud Mining Disabled : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIrlbS ) [02:12]
gribble Current Blocks: 341257 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1462 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 16 hours, 7 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44653742846.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.1915 [02:12]
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BingoBoingo trinque: There is an adspace we tested before. Just a square in the sidebar. The right offer could either get it back or banish it for some time. [02:15]
trinque yeah that works [02:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102647 @ 0.00044132 = 45.3002 BTC [+] [02:17]
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danielpbarron asciilifeform, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vKR5rzTB << am i supposed to have installed boost? [02:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9Lvhj ) [02:47]
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danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-01-2015#995064 [02:48]
assbot Logged on 28-01-2015 05:48:29; asciilifeform: 1) nixed zlib. it isn't used in bitcoin! it was demanded by demented fucktarded 'boost' > 1.53, iirc (won't even let you cut it off) [02:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147565 @ 0.00043983 = 64.9035 BTC [-] {4} [02:49]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: didja miss the part about -cross- compiling [02:50]
danielpbarron ;;later tell GunPlay get in #bitcoin-assets (hide your ip first) [02:50]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:50]
asciilifeform build on actual computer. [02:51]
danielpbarron lol [02:51]
danielpbarron whoops [02:51]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: see http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000033.html [02:51]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9M62D ) [02:51]
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asciilifeform don't need to install anything but the compiler & associated binutils. [02:51]
asciilifeform (under gentoo, single command) [02:51]
asciilifeform then download tarballs (you don't have to use the same ones i did, necessarily) [02:52]
asciilifeform recipe in comments in sh script. [02:53]
asciilifeform oh and avoid sd card for blockchain. it is terrible, no good, unusably slow [02:53]
danielpbarron i got a ssd sata drive, a 5400 rpm laptop thing, and a usb3 flashdrive to test [02:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80500 @ 0.00042611 = 34.3019 BTC [-] [03:03]
mod6 ;;ticker [03:07]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 228.0, Best ask: 228.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 228.05, 24 hour volume: 18587.89257310, 24 hour low: 225.52, 24 hour high: 244.98, 24 hour vwap: 233.253251665 [03:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108800 @ 0.00041505 = 45.1574 BTC [-] {2} [03:13]
mod6 $vwap s.mpoe [03:13]
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mircea_popescu what's the opposite of eugenics? << cacogenics i'd imagine. [03:22]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, turn your adblocker off qntra.net and tell me what you think.. http://i.imgur.com/TW5xwBD.png << dude wtf is that. [03:23]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIqBna ) [03:23]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: He shooped it. Mock up of how we'd look decked out like some other sites... [03:25]
mircea_popescu ah k [03:25]
mircea_popescu gave me a start [03:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132781 @ 0.00042987 = 57.0786 BTC [+] [03:28]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: If he actually dicked with the precarious balance where we don't look like shit on mobile... I'da had some stronger words [03:31]
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BingoBoingo I just can't wait for someone to dig up the shoop in 2 years and be like "Qntra advertised GAW" which will of course be refuted by the lol'ing here [03:34]
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BingoBoingo !up pete_dushenski [03:34]
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pete_dushenski heyo amigo [03:34]
BingoBoingo Hey, pete_dushenski You given the new look Qntra a try? [03:35]
* pete_dushenski checking now [03:35]
pete_dushenski lol um... new? [03:35]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Check on mobile too. [03:35]
BingoBoingo But yeah, we also now gently suggest fonts your browser could use... [03:36]
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pete_dushenski aic [03:37]
pete_dushenski ya i suppose the fonts are a little different [03:37]
pete_dushenski cool i guess [03:37]
BingoBoingo And the menus go to full width when kicked to the bottom on the mobile stuff. Iteration... [03:39]
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BingoBoingo Also there's an easter egg in the stylesheet text. [03:39]
pete_dushenski hey ya not bad [03:39]
BingoBoingo For the next time I have to link someone the stylesheet because they don't believe it exists. [03:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35419 @ 0.00043367 = 15.3602 BTC [-] [03:41]
pete_dushenski lol [03:42]
pete_dushenski i'll get you next time, batman! [03:42]
cazalla mircea_popescu, lol trolled hard [03:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 238608 @ 0.00040534 = 96.7174 BTC [-] {7} [03:42]
mircea_popescu totally [03:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.0003976 = 15.6654 BTC [-] [03:44]
BingoBoingo The whole site even validates as latest greatest while still working on actual browsers http://validator.w3.org/unicorn/check?ucn_uri=qntra.net&doctype=Inline&charset=%28detect%20automatically%29&ucn_task=conformance# [03:44]
assbot Result for http://qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9SVB7 ) [03:44]
pete_dushenski "errors" : "Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues." << huh [03:44]
BingoBoingo Even though W3c sucks [03:45]
cazalla for anyone not in the know, BingoBoingo's work was born of google complaining about our mobile site [03:45]
pete_dushenski wait, google bitched and you listened? [03:45]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Only listened because they were straight forward and not passive aggressive this time. [03:46]
pete_dushenski a sent you an email or something? [03:47]
mircea_popescu bitcoin went to safe mode ? [03:47]
BingoBoingo a sent you an email or something? << They indeed did [03:48]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: mebbe ? [03:48]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [03:48]
gribble Current Blocks: 341263 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1456 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 0 hours, 43 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44219270086.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.13882 [03:49]
midnightmagic trinque: I'm not from the US, dumbass. [03:49]
cazalla midnightmagic, shots fired! oh.. hang on a sec [03:49]
mircea_popescu davout: kakobrekla: dat true << yeh namechanging sucks. [03:49]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic i was not gonna say anything. [03:50]
midnightmagic s/dumbass// [03:50]
pete_dushenski that was the error msg from my toy vps node running 0.9.0.3 [03:50]
pete_dushenski still loading the chain actually. 2 days later at block : 322082 [03:51]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski generally bitcoind goes into safe mode if it has a bad chain etc. proilly corrupted local data. [03:51]
pete_dushenski hm [03:51]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: apologies to you for my uncivil language. [03:52]
mircea_popescu form's never much of a big deal. [03:52]
midnightmagic k [03:52]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: the resolution to safe mode being ... ? [03:52]
trinque my butt's not hurt [03:52]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski well the nuclear solution is wipe chain start sync over. [03:53]
mircea_popescu if it dun go away of its own volition [03:53]
mircea_popescu but look in debug.log see wtf. [03:53]
pete_dushenski ok i'll give it some time [03:53]
mircea_popescu jurov: yes. but if we put in expected difficulty instead of checkpoints << he actually has a very solid point. [03:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform if you feel like testing a 3rd approach, can you look through orphanage for % of blocks more than 10% off the difficulty ? [03:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: would be more economical to simply chop the connection << yup, that's why b) is in http://log.b-a.link/?date=31-01-2015#999477 [03:57]
assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 03:13:36; mircea_popescu: something simple like, "whenever a parentless block is handed over the retaining of which would cause memory pool for holding parentless blocks to be overrun, a) drop the handed block ; b) close the connection and ban that peer for half hour ; c) discard all chains of parentless blocks longer than six items ; d) connect again" [03:57]
pete_dushenski : Cannot obtain a lock on data directory /root/.bitcoin. Bitcoin Core is probably already running. [03:59]
mircea_popescu well so stop one. [04:00]
pete_dushenski then it shut itself down [04:00]
pete_dushenski i thought this would be a good training wheels program before tackling 0.5.3 ... [04:01]
pete_dushenski but clearly the supermagickuserfriendly core is a turd so i might as well just go for the real deal [04:01]
mircea_popescu "6. You are finished. Breath easy, and live your life in peace knowing you will never have to deal with us again." [04:01]
mircea_popescu lmao this is the eve online "protection" scam irl ?! by teenagers with about the same linguistic ability ? [04:02]
mircea_popescu neat. [04:02]
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BingoBoingo lmao this is the eve online "protection" scam irl ?! by teenagers with about the same linguistic ability ? << wHERE? [04:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00039747 = 2.6432 BTC [-] {2} [04:04]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/01/police-warn-bitcoin-extortion-letter-recipients-not-to-pay/#comment-8815 [04:05]
assbot Police Warn Bitcoin Extortion Letter Recipients Not To Pay | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9VrHx ) [04:05]
mircea_popescu just the lulzof "you are finished". the unintentional open mouth insert foot style of prose. [04:05]
BingoBoingo aH [04:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63872 @ 0.00040904 = 26.1262 BTC [+] [04:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193100 @ 0.00039098 = 75.4982 BTC [-] {2} [04:20]
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pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2015/01/police-warn-bitcoin-extortion-letter-recipients-not-to-pay/#comment-8818 [04:21]
assbot Police Warn Bitcoin Extortion Letter Recipients Not To Pay | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVqlCp ) [04:21]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: just noticed that serena is through to the finals [04:21]
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BingoBoingo Perlboy: Yeah, that's some bullshit. My Money's on Sharapova now, just enough to wipe the previous loss if wins. [04:23]
mircea_popescu "The astonishing truth is that despite millions of dollars and hundreds of academic careers psychiatry has made no progress in almost 20 years, let alone ten, a claim no other medical specialty can make, and the truth which cannot be spoken out loud. Hence an exam." [04:24]
mircea_popescu meanwhile "economy", another us pseudoscience, has made shocking progress the past 20 years : [04:25]
mircea_popescu austerity, the definitive solution to all the problems caused by inflation and loose money [04:25]
mircea_popescu is now the problem, to be definitivel solved by inflation and loose money. [04:25]
mircea_popescu so much progress could hardly fit in a single asshole. [04:25]
pete_dushenski thankfully, the number of people have inflated too [04:26]
pete_dushenski and each has at least one backdoor [04:26]
mircea_popescu "governance" - social "studies" - "earth science" - "economy" - "psychiatry" and "computer science" [04:26]
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mircea_popescu that's pretty much the list of things the us has uncontributed to. [04:27]
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pete_dushenski + public health [04:28]
pete_dushenski “The human mating system is extremely flexible,” Bernard Chapais of the University of Montreal wrote in a recent review in Evolutionary Anthropology. Only 17 percent of human cultures are strictly monogamous. The vast majority of human societies embrace a mix of marriage types, with some people practicing monogamy and others polygamy. [04:28]
mircea_popescu that much is true. [04:29]
mircea_popescu there's probably a population somewhere in history that actually reproduced by flies carring sperm from splooge puddles into fetid snatches. [04:29]
pete_dushenski lol but of course, the retardosearchers go on to make unwarranted conclusions: [04:31]
pete_dushenski “Once monogamy has evolved, then male care is far more likely,” Dr. Opie said. [04:31]
pete_dushenski Once a monogamous primate father starts to stick around, he has the opportunity to raise the odds that his offspring will survive. He can carry them, groom their fur and protect them from attacks. [04:31]
pete_dushenski In our own lineage, however, fathers went further. They had evolved the ability to hunt and scavenge meat, and they were supplying some of that food to their children. “They may have gone beyond what is normal for monogamous primates,” said Dr. Opie. [04:31]
mircea_popescu as far as the fabled 17% strictly monogamous cultures go... i very much doubt this ever happened. no culture in history was strictly monogamous for a strict definition of strictly. [04:31]
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pete_dushenski The extra supply of protein and calories that human children started to receive is widely considered a watershed moment in our evolution. It could explain why we have brains far bigger than other mammals. [04:31]
pete_dushenski Brains are hungry organs, demanding 20 times more calories than a similar piece of muscle. Only with a steady supply of energy-rich meat, Dr. Opie suggests, were we able to evolve big brains — and all the mental capacities that come with it. [04:31]
pete_dushenski Because of monogamy, Dr. Opie said, “This could be how humans were able to push through a ceiling in terms of brain size.” [04:31]
mircea_popescu absolute nonsense. [04:31]
pete_dushenski this is what taxdollars get you [04:32]
mircea_popescu actually i've not paid any tax dollars, but i appreciate teh intent. [04:33]
mircea_popescu in any case ; meat is not particularly energetic. fat is, but fat is widely available outside of animals : one could for instance eat nothing but aguacate and become really really smart - except it doesn't work in practice. [04:34]
pete_dushenski at least not for south americans [04:34]
mircea_popescu so... this guy is discussing interesting and otherwise important matters with all the astuteness of a virgin 15 yo girl from nantucket. [04:34]
pete_dushenski but maybe if we keep trying! [04:34]
mircea_popescu actually... i guess bernard chapais actually is a 15 yo from nantucket. [04:34]
mircea_popescu in any case there's no way to tell the difference. [04:35]
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mircea_popescu for that matter, brain size per se is not well related to energetic consumption, nor to cognitive function for that matter. whales have some of the largest brains in the animalia kingdom, and somehow they're not writing stupid papers about 15yo virgin prisses. [04:36]
pete_dushenski it's not at all clear that larger brains are the function of a social behaviour, nor why they should be [04:36]
pete_dushenski right. size isn't the difference. [04:37]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, http://40.media.tumblr.com/e3908b614075918afd6d8f4e5ee1d839/tumblr_mu89pmypXh1rjh6r0o1_500.jpg [04:38]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EvM8Dw ) [04:38]
pete_dushenski it's where the brain is bigger, not just that it's bigger, that's differentiating [04:38]
pete_dushenski plus gyri, sulci [04:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24212 @ 0.00040904 = 9.9037 BTC [+] [04:40]
punkman total scam http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1219749240 [04:46]
punkman re: kendra sunderland, she's just being topless [04:47]
pete_dushenski who's she again? [04:48]
mircea_popescu steph kegels wanna-be [04:49]
punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999495 [04:49]
assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 03:30:10; hanbot: friendly reminder to not go to the library horny: http://www.inquisitr.com/1802797/kendra-sunderland-admits-to-filming-library-sex-video/ [04:49]
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pete_dushenski aok so basically random no one is being charged for trespassing on campus property [04:52]
pete_dushenski not quite as bad as this poor old man: [04:52]
pete_dushenski Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni, 79, a physicist and naturalized citizen from Argentina, pleaded guilty in 2013 to espionage-related offenses stemming from a sting in which he told an undercover agent that he could help the Caracas government obtain an atomic bomb, according to the F.B.I. and court records. [04:52]
pete_dushenski dude just got 5 years [04:53]
p15 pactr Panadol______ Perlboy pete_dushenski phf Phoebus PinkPosixPXE pizzaman1337 PsychoticBoy psychouroboros punkman [04:54]
mircea_popescu !up p15 [04:54]
-assbot- You voiced p15 for 30 minutes. [04:54]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski this scam pops up now and again, the sort of salesmen that poach on old ladies selling them 55's years worth of toilet paper supplies and 19 organs join the fbi and proceed to "catch" old / mentally disabled / minorities and other vulnerable people at you know, trying to buy badbombium [04:55]
mircea_popescu then completely insane commanding officers fail to sack them and completely insane judges fail to throw the thing out and hold the idiots in contempt for a few years at a stretch. [04:56]
pete_dushenski i mean it's one thing to keep an old lady company for a few years, take her to dinner, to the doctor's, end up in her will [04:57]
pete_dushenski but this is pretty low [04:57]
pete_dushenski but hey, gotta expect it from the fbi, right? [04:58]
mircea_popescu no time to cook dinner anymore, mcd's gotta do. "i ordered takeout. what ?! it's still effort!" [04:59]
pete_dushenski so is breathing [05:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94300 @ 0.00039325 = 37.0835 BTC [+] {2} [05:01]
pete_dushenski so reddit sez davout = karpeles nao [05:16]
pete_dushenski http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2t7k6w/the_emperor_is_buttnaked_btc_block_size/cnwhzlv [05:16]
assbot Mark_Karpeles_ comments on The Emperor is Buttnaked (BTC block size discussion with Gavin) ... ( http://bit.ly/1HwbzqW ) [05:16]
pete_dushenski lol mebbe dread pirate est francaise aussi ? [05:17]
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BingoBoingo !up Vexual [05:19]
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Vexual reddit also says hashie is tradefortress [05:26]
pete_dushenski and that down is up [05:27]
pete_dushenski and that capitalism is in crisis [05:27]
pete_dushenski and that b-a is under a musty dark bridge somewhere [05:28]
pete_dushenski etc [05:28]
Vexual so where drowned is the same as drowning, we might ise 1/30 s and the smallest apeture, an da neutral filer to suit [05:31]
Vexual make it look all dreamy and nice [05:34]
Vexual top logs [05:35]
pete_dushenski tippity [05:36]
Vexual im entirely adverese to ruinin git with music [05:37]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: all yours: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/30/how-to-become-a-good-poker-player-translated/#comment-9375 [05:37]
Vexual ill misspell instead [05:37]
assbot How to become a good poker player, translated. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVuarw ) [05:37]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski derps. [05:43]
mircea_popescu also, the problem of jooz is very simple : [05:44]
mircea_popescu their mother. [05:44]
pete_dushenski go on... [05:45]
mircea_popescu no, that's it. [05:45]
pete_dushenski i get the stereotype: naggy and whatnot [05:46]
pete_dushenski but that doesn't mean author x is going to stake his claim on a stereotype [05:47]
mircea_popescu nah, that's not it. [05:47]
mircea_popescu well first off, you introduced a stereotype by discussing jews, so we're going to do stereotypes. [05:48]
mircea_popescu how the hell are you going to discuss "jews" unstereotypically. [05:49]
mircea_popescu jurov btw re dicelist : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boggle [05:49]
assbot Boggle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVuJ4y ) [05:49]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: that's a point i suppose. but "stupid people" are subject to the same [05:50]
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mircea_popescu nah, there's no stereotype of stupidity. [05:50]
pete_dushenski even if the specific vices thereof are a matter of perspective [05:50]
mircea_popescu see, there's a stereotype of a dumb blonde, there isn't a stereotype of a hot blonde. [05:51]
pete_dushenski the stereotype of the hot blonde is that she's out of your league [05:53]
mircea_popescu even if they're both meaningful constructions, they're not both stereotypical constructions. a good test being, of course, translation. [05:53]
pete_dushenski and that she's surrounded by a moat of friends [05:53]
mircea_popescu there's a lot more to it than that. big boobs, tall, a certain mouth shape... [05:54]
mircea_popescu she dun has to be surrounded by friends, heck, she's often alone, protected by the magic of her idiot ball [05:54]
pete_dushenski maybe she's alone for a minute [05:55]
mircea_popescu anyway, stereotypy's mostly a literary device. the poor man's term of art, if you will. [05:55]
pete_dushenski so how does titling an article "the problems of stupid people" circumvent this term of art ? [05:56]
fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6_T48zd8zg [05:56]
assbot Sometimes you make a mistake - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVv6ff ) [05:56]
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pete_dushenski i guess i just think that people would actually read such a thing [05:57]
pete_dushenski maybe because you wrote it [05:57]
mircea_popescu anyway, back to the problems of the stereotypical jew : same problem as shared by all middle eastern cultures, from bulgaria to iran : that the woman is overimportant in the culture. unlike the other eastern cultures however, the jew has very little means to address this problem. can't quite start stoning innocent girls in the road. [05:57]
pete_dushenski maybe because it's on trilema [05:57]
mircea_popescu and so, he's stuck with liberal binging [05:57]
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pete_dushenski liberal, if capitalist, binging [05:58]
pete_dushenski make $$ now, give it away when dead [05:58]
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mircea_popescu myeah. "frantic exertion as a decoy for impotence", as teh tlp guy likes to say [05:58]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony lol the narrator makes it [05:59]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-q_XCDDUF8 << whale's made a video about what mistakes seagulls make. [06:00]
assbot Biggest Mistakes Aspiring Models Make | Modeling - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1CWt5R0 ) [06:00]
mircea_popescu so how does titling an article "the problems of stupid people" circumvent this term of art ? << which term ? and nah, it doesn't. [06:02]
pete_dushenski the term: stereotype [06:02]
mircea_popescu anyway, to save teh noobs : in no case am i proposing that the bizarro atrocities of the muslims, stereotypically grouped above under " stoning innocent girls in the road" are an effectual approach to the problem [of overrepresentation of woman in their own mental space]. it clearly doesn't work, but then again it's clearly what they're trying. and obviously it's not the god damned women's fault that dudes are all hang [06:05]
mircea_popescu up on them, conceptually, either. [06:05]
pete_dushenski lol [06:06]
pete_dushenski the efforts of moslems maybe "clearly doesn't work" at the superficial intention, but it seems to be successful a recruiting new folks [06:07]
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mircea_popescu eh, recruiting boys to do something sutpid is like finding flies to go on shit. [06:07]
pete_dushenski well them islam has the stankiest stink because it's attracting hordes of 'em [06:08]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski nevertheless, examine teh devices side by side. muslim boy is like "you must wear the tablecloth on your head lest there's weird stuff that scares me going on in my head". jew boy is like "mom you must not be disappointed in me or else there's weird stuff that scares me going on in my head" [06:09]
mircea_popescu it's really not THAT different. which is why they fucking hate each other. [06:09]
pete_dushenski that old competition for scarce resources [06:10]
pete_dushenski but instead of water or oil [06:10]
pete_dushenski it's women to be scared of [06:10]
mircea_popescu more like "the right way to treat neurosis with home remedies" [06:11]
pete_dushenski "this is why you should be scared" "no it's not! it's this!" [06:11]
mircea_popescu obviously, there can only be one. [06:11]
pete_dushenski lol [06:11]
pete_dushenski tiger penis soup or cockroach bungholes [06:11]
pete_dushenski take your pick [06:11]
mircea_popescu but honestly, either beats the english "if you ever enjoy anything you will die" nonsense. [06:12]
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mircea_popescu it's shocking how the stupidest of european peoples managed to steal and run off with the stupidest corner of jewish religion [06:12]
mircea_popescu it's almost like explorer found ancient tomb, ran off with ancient pee bowl. as a hat. [06:13]
pete_dushenski the peg fit the hole i guess [06:13]
pete_dushenski as it always does [06:13]
mircea_popescu as george costanza once said, "if there's a pinhead in the crowd, i gotta be on top of it" [06:14]
pete_dushenski and as home simpson once said, "this is the snack holder where i can put my beverage, or, if you will, cupcake [06:16]
pete_dushenski homer* [06:16]
mircea_popescu lol. anyways, im off. take it ezzy [06:16]
pete_dushenski bon soir [06:17]
punkman http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150130-the-man-who-studies-evil [06:20]
assbot BBC - Future - Psychology: the man who studies everyday evil ... ( http://bit.ly/1CWvevY ) [06:20]
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pete_dushenski “Human society is so complex that there are different ways of enhancing your reproductive success – some involve being nice and some being nasty,” [06:28]
pete_dushenski In some situations, ruthlessness may be necessary. “To be prime minister, you can’t be namby pamby – you need to cut corners and hurt people, and even be nasty to achieve your moral causes,” he says. After all, the dark personalities often have the impulse and the confidence to get things done –even Mother Theresa apparently had a steely side, he says. “You’re not going to help [06:30]
pete_dushenski society by sitting at home being nice.” [06:30]
pete_dushenski this is teh take-home point for reddit [06:30]
pete_dushenski the community will spin in circles being nice to one another [06:30]
pete_dushenski the leaders will not be nice just because of feelings [06:31]
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punkman http://cordialminuet.com/ [06:36]
assbot CORDIAL MINUET ... ( http://bit.ly/1CWx28a ) [06:36]
punkman ^ needs remake with btc [06:43]
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mircea_popescu ;;isup blockchain.info [15:07]
gribble blockchain.info is up [15:08]
mircea_popescu orly [15:08]
mircea_popescu https://blockchain.info/address/16crkmdoaK6Tq8NP3FVK7Uxq5Dwdicb3c3 [15:08]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIweod ) [15:08]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/CsIJGkz.jpg [15:08]
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mircea_popescu lol [15:09]
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ben_vulpes huh [15:13]
ben_vulpes for some reason the "upload a public key" feature for aws has gone missing. [15:13]
ben_vulpes SUBTERFUGE [15:14]
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mats o noes [15:18]
mircea_popescu jurov: unless kakobrekla decides otherwise << i thought it was pretty funny. [15:20]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: gavin andresen is unchangeably biased against solutions that preserve scarcity semantics. <<< that's not even it. a princeton graduate that lives in amherst mass and has suckled the usg privilege tit all his life to the exclusion of anything else is going to make it so we can't verify bitcoin transactions or integrity anymore in order to "save africa" by allowing them microtransactions they don't either nee [15:22]
mircea_popescu d or intend to use. [15:22]
mircea_popescu a more laughably clear cut of usg-ism i've never seen, and it's utter defeat and public ridicule will do a lot not only to preserve bitcoin as "the noose that hangs the usg", but moreover as a focal point for all people who would rather live an actual life. [15:23]
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mircea_popescu this isn't about one idiot guy going around at parties dressed up as satoshi. this is about how americanism failed and fails, at home and abroad. [15:25]
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mircea_popescu time for something new and something better than "let's break everything so some black guy i've imagined feels better about his life". [15:25]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-worm/ [15:25]
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mats http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2uadvd/the_real_reason_ryan_charles_was_fired_from/ [15:32]
assbot The real reason Ryan Charles was fired from reddit: he spent the entire duration of his employment working on a port of bitcoin core to Javascript. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIyjAo ) [15:32]
mats kek [15:32]
mats The reddit wallet, should it have existed, had absolutely enormous potential. The goal was to make it really easy for redditors to have and transact in digital assets, particularly bitcoin, dogecoin, and reddit notes, as well as any other assets using whatever protocol we ultimately used for reddit notes (probably colored coins or sidechains). [15:33]
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mthreat greetings from Livingston Island, Antarctica [15:43]
mthreat well, from the boat at the moment [15:43]
ben_vulpes pics! nao! [15:44]
mthreat slow internet, i may be able to get 1 pic up [15:44]
mthreat but it probably is the same as all the other pics out there :) [15:44]
mthreat and penguin shit stinks [15:45]
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mircea_popescu jurov no biggy [15:52]
mircea_popescu hey mthreat ! [15:52]
mircea_popescu mats redditors transacting, enormous potential, top kek. [15:54]
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asciilifeform "errors" : "EXCEPTION: 11DbException
Db::get: Cannot allocate memory
bitcoin in ProcessMessage()
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asciilifeform ^ new type of perma-wedge [15:55]
mircea_popescu aga [15:55]
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mircea_popescu which one asciilifeform ? [15:56]
asciilifeform pogo [15:56]
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asciilifeform bastard node, is going strong [15:56]
asciilifeform interestingly, this did not kill the process [15:56]
asciilifeform it just sits. [15:56]
asciilifeform i conjecture - corrupted db [15:57]
asciilifeform one too many shots. [15:57]
mircea_popescu nah, this is actually a known 2011 issue. that was obv never fixed [15:58]
mircea_popescu "get more memory!11" [15:58]
mircea_popescu anyway, can you kill it ? [15:58]
BingoBoingo jurov> i guess b-a bash needs american( or america-culture-aware) moderator then. i found midnightmagic's utterance only slightly bizarre << Same here [15:58]
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asciilifeform killed, restarted [15:59]
trinque BingoBoingo: later yelled at me that he wasn't american, and also leave britney alone [16:00]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform incidentally, the march fork yielded a lot of that too [16:00]
asciilifeform bastard node is running under 'valgrind', incidentally [16:01]
asciilifeform ~12h now [16:01]
mircea_popescu good move. [16:01]
mircea_popescu what count is it on ? [16:01]
asciilifeform 195517 [16:01]
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pete_dushenski scoop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/31/on-pretending-googling-is-still-a-thing-that-works/ [16:03]
assbot On pretending “Googling” is still a thing that works any more than “USG” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1EwLHJ0 ) [16:03]
pete_dushenski that said, i'm heading out for a walk. bbl [16:03]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/third-pass-addressing-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/ [16:08]
punkman https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8977177 [16:08]
assbot Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EwMo53 ) [16:08]
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mircea_popescu guy has a very strange idea as to what open means. [16:15]
mircea_popescu nothing google ever made was open. [16:15]
fluffypony yeah [16:17]
punkman he's talking about the open source stuff [16:17]
mircea_popescu except it's not. [16:17]
fluffypony but all their FOSS work is pretty much to further their own endeavours [16:17]
fluffypony eg. I don't think they created Go or AngularJS because they felt benevolent [16:18]
mircea_popescu just because google has been measurably more successful at embrace, extend and extinguish foss than say microsoft [16:18]
mircea_popescu does not make it part of foss. [16:18]
cazalla BingoBoingo, serina eh :P [16:26]
BingoBoingo Fuck [16:26]
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cazalla clearly you've never heard the saying "always bet on black" [16:30]
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mircea_popescu lol [16:31]
mircea_popescu he lost eh ? [16:31]
mircea_popescu o wow check out all the s.mpoe action [16:31]
asciilifeform it's perma-wedged, in db state. [16:32]
cazalla mircea_popescu, twice i believe [16:34]
asciilifeform 'So, I have a question - why do we need such an OPEN technologies, that can be BLOCKED tomorrow? Today - it's me, but who knows what will happen tomorrow, and which countries or companies will decide to block their, so called open, tools that you use.' [16:34]
asciilifeform ^ cloud111!!!!111 [16:34]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'm still all time +ev against serena, but it always stings losing in the now. Nice Shitbrain worm >> Ascaris cerebrofoetida [16:34]
cazalla BingoBoingo, who are you figuring to win tonight? djokovic or murray? i want to bet opposite to you :P [16:35]
mats mr magic is worried about being gassed by agents of the enemy [16:35]
BingoBoingo cazalla: I don't really know men's tennis. Kind of a sport for the girlies. [16:35]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo evil eh [16:36]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you know it's tenis not penis. [16:36]
asciilifeform perma-wedge - silently hangs on restart [16:37]
asciilifeform with no output. [16:37]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: More the sort of necessary evil that would need invented. [16:37]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo you know it's tenis not penis. << Ah, phonics gets me again [16:38]
asciilifeform worm tale << see also short story 'the moral virologist' (greg egan) [16:42]
asciilifeform sorta opposite. [16:42]
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ben_vulpes conformal, btcd, compiling << btcd won't even compile on a vps with ~600 mb of ram. OOM kill. [16:53]
ben_vulpes turdlang indeed. [16:54]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: see thread from hour ago [16:54]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: re: google and 'open' [16:54]
fluffypony don't you just run Go apps, without precompiling them? [16:55]
asciilifeform 'golang' is in the same league as apple's 'darwin' unix kernel. a whole zoological kingdom of pseudo-open, where, yes, theoretically you can read source, but it is not -for you- [16:55]
ben_vulpes fluffypony: "go get ..." [16:55]
fluffypony that just fetches deps [16:56]
asciilifeform and if interests of vendor conflict with yours in any way, the conflict will be subtly and perfidiously resolved in favour of vendor [16:56]
ben_vulpes i'm no expert with their ecosystem, so i may be doing it wrong. [16:56]
asciilifeform the solution to turdlangs is, to crib from clinton era anti-dope slogan, 'be smart - don't start' [16:56]
fluffypony I have an API for a service I run that is written in Go, and that's 'go server.go', no compiling [16:56]
mod6 ha [16:56]
asciilifeform i've been there. was a die-hard user of 'mathematica' for some years [16:56]
asciilifeform quitting - was agony. [16:57]
asciilifeform aha [16:57]
asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-2746 << quitting mathematica dope [16:58]
assbot Loper OS » Thumbs Down for Clojure ... ( http://bit.ly/1DidCsf ) [16:58]
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ben_vulpes fluffypony: doesn't really cover the apparently epic dependency graph of btcd [17:00]
* ben_vulpes is trying to decide how much he cares about running btcd [17:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1615 @ 0.00095998 = 1.5504 BTC [+] [17:01]
asciilifeform in other news, [17:01]
asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/231ZHHC [17:01]
assbot dpaste: 231ZHHC: valgrind output of bastard node. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Die6yC ) [17:01]
asciilifeform compare with: http://dpaste.com/1T8RSCJ << classical [17:02]
assbot dpaste: 1T8RSCJ: shit ... ( http://bit.ly/1DiehcZ ) [17:02]
asciilifeform classical: 'definitely lost' [17:03]
asciilifeform bastard: 'possibly lost' [17:03]
asciilifeform clever bugger. [17:03]
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punkman heh https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8977021 [17:05]
assbot Ask HN: Someone raised money by claiming my project as their own | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIHy3s ) [17:05]
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punkman "open source as long as the chinese don't copy it" [17:06]
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danielpbarron asciilifeform, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xfzJYMNJ <-- any suggestions? [17:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dift07 ) [17:09]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: what were you building on ? [17:09]
danielpbarron might be my crappy laptop; i may just make a fresh gentoo install just for this [17:09]
danielpbarron ubuntu 12.w/e :/ [17:10]
asciilifeform what cross-compiler ? [17:10]
danielpbarron arm-linux-gnueabi [17:11]
asciilifeform first of all, has to be armv5 [17:11]
danielpbarron ah hah! [17:11]
asciilifeform second - were you using the build script exactly as given ? [17:11]
danielpbarron the auto.sh one? [17:12]
danielpbarron no, it's modified slightly [17:12]
asciilifeform how? [17:12]
danielpbarron to change that prefix [17:13]
danielpbarron and i had to add "sudo" the make install of BDB [17:13]
danielpbarron for some reason [17:13]
danielpbarron maybe related to this other thing you pointed out [17:13]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: ahahahaha [17:14]
asciilifeform you probably installed bdb systemwide [17:14]
asciilifeform instead of local dir as specified in recipe [17:14]
asciilifeform same for boost [17:14]
danielpbarron it already was [17:14]
asciilifeform recipe -specifically- calls for local install [17:14]
asciilifeform it's a deterministic build [17:14]
danielpbarron right i get that [17:14]
asciilifeform which means, 'all that's mine i carry with me' [17:14]
asciilifeform like a snail. [17:14]
asciilifeform and should very certainly not need sudo-anything [17:15]
asciilifeform that's a sure symptom that it was unable to install to specified local dir [17:15]
asciilifeform did you create the latter ? [17:15]
asciilifeform 'ourlibs' [17:16]
danielpbarron yep [17:16]
asciilifeform what do you get if removed 'sudo' ? [17:16]
asciilifeform post output. [17:16]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: had typo when restart of wedged pogo, it actually does restart [17:17]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but it reliably dies with: [17:18]
asciilifeform ************************ [17:18]
asciilifeform EXCEPTION: 11DbException [17:18]
asciilifeform Db::get: Cannot allocate memory [17:18]
asciilifeform bitcoin in ProcessMessage() [17:18]
asciilifeform ProcessMessage(block, 72417 bytes) FAILED [17:18]
asciilifeform received block 00000000000003c67a87 [17:18]
asciilifeform REORGANIZE [17:18]
asciilifeform ^ essentially, exhausts ram on boot [17:20]
asciilifeform as soon as loads even one block. [17:20]
asciilifeform bdb cache? [17:20]
danielpbarron asciilifeform, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tm3s2qMy [17:21]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIIXai ) [17:21]
asciilifeform ./distfiles/boost_1_52_0.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory [17:21]
asciilifeform ^ you don't have it? [17:21]
danielpbarron that's not the problem; the script doesn't change directory properly after the permission error [17:22]
danielpbarron i do have all the tarballs [17:22]
asciilifeform remove all the intermediate crap and post output from fresh run [17:23]
asciilifeform as in, run with just the tarballs and the required empty dir. [17:23]
danielpbarron what about armv5tel-softfloat-linux-gnueabi ? [17:23]
asciilifeform remember that this is not a 'makefile' and it's brick-stupid [17:23]
asciilifeform expects exactly empty start [17:23]
asciilifeform gotta go, will be back in a few hrs. [17:26]
danielpbarron thank you for the pointers [17:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's trying to do a chain reorg and failing. [17:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform go can be statically compiled can it not ? [17:30]
mircea_popescu definitely lost: 22,000 bytes in 250 blocks indirectly lost: 360,903 bytes in 10 blocks possibly lost: 90,514,354 bytes in 256 blocks 115,924,858 bytes in 450,368 blocks << this is the fucking sorriest report, like it's cs 101 over here. [17:32]
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mircea_popescu "Now i see. Gavin announced chaos and drama to the press because he himself intends to create it. He gets a 30% veto and still wants to proceed. It's gonna rip. I just switched to Litecoin." [17:45]
mircea_popescu heh. the first part is true, obviously. not so sure about the 2nd. bitcoin is after all based on drama and lulz. [17:45]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: where did you read that? [17:47]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10322233#msg10322233 [17:47]
assbot Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1zILlxP ) [17:47]
thestringpuller ty [17:49]
thestringpuller srsly 502 bad gateway?!? [17:49]
thestringpuller theymos!!! [17:49]
mircea_popescu lol [17:50]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/ down too apparently. [17:50]
assbot Bitcointa.lk: the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1zILBwQ ) [17:50]
mircea_popescu hm. [17:50]
thestringpuller this is exactly why we can't have nice things [17:51]
danielpbarron interesting timing [17:51]
mircea_popescu https://www.google.com.ar/search?q=Bitcoin+20MB+Fork&complete=0 this is pretty lulzy. [17:52]
assbot Bitcoin 20MB Fork - Buscar con Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1zILKAj ) [17:52]
mircea_popescu qntra and derivatives totally dominates teh discussion. [17:52]
mircea_popescu clearly usg has like a majority and shit. [17:52]
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thestringpuller dude [17:53]
thestringpuller bullbear stole my fucking title [17:54]
thestringpuller https://bullbearanalytics.com/2015/01/23/looming-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << lol [17:54]
mircea_popescu tell him. [17:54]
thestringpuller oh he referenced me [17:54]
thestringpuller well qntra [17:54]
thestringpuller haha cazalla and i spitballed for hours on the title XD [17:54]
mircea_popescu not really linked it, which is weird mfa sorta behaviour. [17:55]
thestringpuller one of them iirc was "Gavin Proposes Pooping Out New Fork" [17:55]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Tell then their link doesn't work. A url encased in parenthesis can not be clicked. [17:56]
danielpbarron i like the old thread title of "fork off" [17:56]
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thestringpuller danielpbarron: yea. i wish I was that clever. [17:56]
thestringpuller It's like trying to replace the wheels on an old steam engine that's still running. [18:01]
thestringpuller This is gonna be some ride for the folks back in 3rd class. [18:01]
thestringpuller ^- from cache of link [18:01]
* BingoBoingo appreciates that my doubt an edgerouter with 512 MB of RAM could make a Bitcoin node and a week later a serious effort to make a 128 MB pogoplug is seriously iterating in a productive direction. [18:02]
mircea_popescu tell me about it. [18:03]
ben_vulpes it's downright heartwarming [18:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2036 @ 0.00096835 = 1.9716 BTC [+] {6} [18:05]
ben_vulpes i sent one of the guys out to get me a cheese yesterday. "cheddar, sharp, really solid, aged." [18:08]
ben_vulpes came back with tillamook extra sharp. [18:08]
ben_vulpes *sigh* [18:08]
ben_vulpes i do so love nasty stinky cheeses [18:09]
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BingoBoingo !up cjc [18:10]
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cjc Thanks for the voice -- managed to discover this channel while reading an article critical of increasing the block size. [18:10]
ben_vulpes cjc: which article? [18:11]
cjc Figured the discussions herein may be worth my idling. [18:11]
ben_vulpes cjc: there's also log.bitcoin-assets.com [18:11]
BingoBoingo i do so love nasty stinky cheeses << Hypothesis, functionally smarter people prefer cheese with more smell because it indicates the presence of more, varied catecholamine precursors the brain craves. [18:11]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: interesting hypothesis [18:11]
ben_vulpes cjc: wouldn't stand for "chicago journal of commerce" by any chance? [18:11]
mircea_popescu lol. [18:12]
mircea_popescu cjc read the logs, linked in topic. there's a search function too. [18:12]
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cjc ben_vulpes, This article and the comments and links within it. -> http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/ [18:13]
assbot How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain't Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1zINIRn ) [18:13]
mircea_popescu that'd be pete_dushenski [18:14]
cjc mircea_popescu, thank you :) [18:14]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that is actually the theory i've "come up with" myself. [18:14]
cjc ben_vulpes, no cjc are merely my initials. [18:15]
cjc /msg NickServ INFO cjc [18:15]
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-NickServ- Information on cjc (account Camisa): [18:15]
-NickServ- Registered : Jan 10 04:51:11 2015 (3w 0d 16h ago) [18:15]
-NickServ- User reg. : Jan 23 07:01:26 2006 (9y 1w 3d ago) [18:15]
-NickServ- Last seen : now [18:15]
-NickServ- Metadata : GNU/Linux = Gentoo [18:15]
-NickServ- Metadata : ICQ = 3047770 [18:15]
-NickServ- Metadata : SIGN = Virgo/Libra [18:15]
-NickServ- Metadata : URL = http://www.rackspace.com/managed-cloud/ [18:15]
-NickServ- Flags : HideMail, NoOp, EMailMemos, Private [18:15]
-NickServ- Camisa has enabled nick protection [18:15]
-NickServ- *** End of Info *** [18:15]
cjc I've also nabbed the first/last initials as a nick and grouped them too. [18:15]
mircea_popescu cjc since you've apparently been around for a while : any merit to teh rumous of freenode slowly going to shit ? [18:16]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo that is actually the theory i've "come up with" myself. << I've accepted that the American conditioning to remove all the flavors if it isn't explicitly done to cultivate stupid, continues with stupid accepted as a positive side effect. [18:16]
cjc mircea_popescu, The node I connect to in Chicago has been down inconveniently quite a bit in 2014, morgan.freenode.net. My observation of #freenode staffer availability in the past two months has been it is hit or miss for new users requesting cloaks and such. [18:18]
mircea_popescu meant more like over the past half decade. [18:18]
cjc Yes, when I started coming here before I registered my nick in 2003 -- [18:19]
cjc There were developers here and like minded people seeking collaboration. [18:19]
cjc We now find many more casual users with a "multi-chat" Facebook type desire to use the network. [18:19]
cjc Its not really held up to the focus as established, perhaps due to insufficient moderation or self enforcement. [18:19]
cjc What are your thoughts? [18:20]
mircea_popescu seems to me kinda drifting without rudder, hoping it won't meet any serious icebergs. [18:20]
cjc Frankly, Freenode would be akin to one of the last standing freenets of the early 90s. If there was ever a problem with regard to insufficient support for the network monetarily -- [18:22]
cjc I do not believe there would be a problem soliciting donations from users who find this the place to host their projects and to meet and talk with others about the same. [18:23]
cjc Channel population hasn't changed too dramatically in the last decade in #gentoo where I spend most of my time. [18:23]
thestringpuller lol gentoo [18:24]
mircea_popescu there was recently a problem with a nsa infiltration that's still being "investigated". [18:24]
mircea_popescu there's more to money than just getting five thousand people to send you ten bux. [18:24]
thestringpuller http://xkcd.com/456/ << relevant xkcd [18:24]
cjc lol, yes its an obsessive compulsive compatible OS [18:25]
mircea_popescu but it doesn;t have to be!! [18:26]
cjc mircea_popescu, I did not apparently catch the news with regard to NSA infiltration. [18:26]
cjc I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the issues I experienced with morgan.freenode.net this year. [18:26]
mircea_popescu http://blog.freenode.net/2014/10/server-issues-update/ [18:26]
assbot Server Issues: Update | staffblog ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGv9Z4 ) [18:26]
danielpbarron lol thestringpuller, that last frame was me last night :/ [18:27]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/mcdonalds-creates-limited-redemption-altcoin/ [18:27]
thestringpuller LOL [18:27]
thestringpuller this i must read [18:27]
thestringpuller danielpbarron: what were you compiling into your kernel? [18:27]
cjc I do recall this article now that you mention it. [18:27]
danielpbarron trying to get bitcoind to compile [18:28]
danielpbarron "this time i'll work and then i can sleep" [18:28]
danielpbarron it'll* [18:28]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron welcome to engineering. [18:28]
mircea_popescu this is how this profession goes. [18:28]
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mircea_popescu (doctors don't sleep either. allegedly for different reasons._) [18:28]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: doctors have you know...drugs [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 217 @ 0.00489784 = 1.0628 BTC [+] {2} [18:30]
cjc How does BingoBoingo work, am I grand a 30 minute one time voice in the channel and then able to simply lurk? [18:34]
cjc s/grand/granted/ [18:34]
BingoBoingo lol I'm a bot again! [18:34]
mircea_popescu lol [18:34]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [18:34]
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BingoBoingo !up cjc [18:34]
* assbot gives voice to cjc [18:34]
mircea_popescu haha spoiled oyur bash too. [18:34]
mircea_popescu cjc if you're in assbot's wot, you get to voice yourself. if not, people who are can voice you in half hour chunks. [18:35]
mircea_popescu !gettrust assbot BingoBoingo [18:35]
assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/BingoBoingo | http://w.b-a.link/user/BingoBoingo [18:35]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nope http://dpaste.com/17A3Y24.txt [18:35]
mircea_popescu like that. [18:35]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIPq5d ) [18:35]
cjc Thanks mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo :) [18:36]
mircea_popescu cjc see also http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ and perhaps http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ [18:36]
assbot #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIPuSm ) [18:36]
assbot #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/13Yy3yb ) [18:36]
BingoBoingo Also http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot [18:38]
assbot irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIPF03 ) [18:38]
cjc Cool, thanks -- Mostly, I'm around overnight hours in CST -- as I work 3rd shift. [18:39]
mircea_popescu the city never sleeps [18:40]
mircea_popescu also [18:40]
cjc I was on one of these Trilema pages earlier today, but didn't understand what the Lord of Bitcoins page was all about when I landed there linked from an article. [18:40]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell cjc doesn't really matter [18:40]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:40]
mircea_popescu lord of bitcoins page ?! [18:40]
mircea_popescu that flatley fellow ? [18:41]
ben_vulpes lordship list [18:41]
cjc This one, http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-lordship-list-first-revision/ [18:41]
assbot The Bitcoin Lordship list, first revision pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGzsDD ) [18:41]
mircea_popescu btw ben_vulpes im thinking, at first conference dinner... we have roast party ? [18:41]
ben_vulpes oh ho ho ho [18:42]
ben_vulpes i gotta cook up some roasts then [18:42]
mircea_popescu lemme ask ppls [18:42]
mircea_popescu $conference [18:42]
cjc During the articles critical of G.A., the above page was linked to... along the way, I discovered this channel. [18:42]
mircea_popescu hm empy died ? nao i gotta google [18:42]
pactr Panadol______ Perlboy pete_dushenski phf Phoebus PinkPosixPXE pizzaman1337 PsychoticBoy psychouroboros punkman [18:42]
pactr Panadol______ Perlboy pete_dushenski phf Phoebus PinkPosixPXE pizzaman1337 PsychoticBoy psychouroboros punkman [18:42]
mircea_popescu mod6 hanbot asciilifeform roast at conference, yes ? [18:43]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you'd better come up wioth good shit, i already have some fucking killers for you mr. [18:44]
ben_vulpes ugh [18:44]
ben_vulpes i'm not actually funny! [18:44]
mod6 mircea_popescu: sure! [18:44]
mircea_popescu go out all over portland and date until you find a funny woman. [18:44]
ben_vulpes so is it a round robin roastage? everyone roasts in turn? [18:44]
mod6 wait... does this mean a roast of meat? or of personalities? [18:44]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [18:45]
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mircea_popescu of personalities. [18:45]
ben_vulpes i think as host you should be c3's target [18:45]
mod6 oh jeeze. lol. i'd be terrible at that. [18:45]
mircea_popescu nah, here in bitcoin we believe in democracy. [18:45]
mircea_popescu everyone roasts everyone. [18:45]
ben_vulpes mk i can probably cook something up [18:46]
mircea_popescu and notes allowed not in excess of 256 characters. [18:46]
ben_vulpes man talk about insider baseball this shit's not even going to be proofable against other humans [18:47]
mircea_popescu lol [18:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132911 @ 0.00037085 = 49.29 BTC [+] {2} [18:47]
ben_vulpes you're so privileged, mircea_popescu! [18:47]
mircea_popescu kinda what makes it good, yeah [18:47]
ben_vulpes you and hanbot get to dial yours in [18:47]
mircea_popescu it's like... the only true comedic venue left. [18:47]
mircea_popescu whatcha mean dial in / [18:48]
ben_vulpes my poor ego will never recover [18:48]
ben_vulpes practice and hone [18:48]
mircea_popescu lol [18:48]
ben_vulpes not fair [18:48]
mircea_popescu hey, i didn't tell you to spend all day typing ruby or w/e you do. boost. [18:48]
ben_vulpes not only do you intend to pauperize me but also demoralize [18:48]
ben_vulpes someone remind me why i do anything [18:49]
mircea_popescu 40 virgins ? [18:49]
mircea_popescu not in the sense of, women. in the sense of, mindboggling challenges. [18:49]
ben_vulpes that's for the sons of ishmael [18:49]
ben_vulpes i'll settle for my mother's praise [18:50]
mircea_popescu the correct spellings is i'm so ashamed not ishmael. [18:50]
mod6 here i was all excited. like "YES PIG ROAST TIME!!!" [18:50]
mircea_popescu mod6 it is not legal in argentina to convene more than six people outside of the presence of roasted meat. [18:50]
mircea_popescu they come read you the meat riot and sedition acts and then start shooting [18:50]
mircea_popescu sausage. [18:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64600 @ 0.0003673 = 23.7276 BTC [-] [18:51]
mod6 haha. imagine a good law. [18:51]
ben_vulpes oh man argentine blood sausage [18:51]
BingoBoingo I thought beef and not pigs is what the Argentines roasted [18:53]
mircea_popescu they roast whatever gets in their way. [18:54]
mircea_popescu they'd roast the vanishingly small african community if those dudes didn't run so fasty. [18:54]
cazalla looks like isis carved up another jap https://sendvid.com/nphywh91 pretty sure western media claimed johadi john was dead too but he's back in that video [18:56]
assbot Sendvid - Instant video upload ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGE9xl ) [18:56]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [19:04]
gribble Current Blocks: 341376 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1343 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 10 hours, 43 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 45287162310.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.72621 [19:04]
BingoBoingo Huh, GAW stopped mining and difficulty still looks to be on the upswing. [19:04]
mircea_popescu impossibru. who outside of cazalla and anyone thinking could have predicted this! [19:05]
mats you mean they weren't mining to begin with? the horror. [19:05]
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BingoBoingo !b 3 [19:06]
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davout ben_vulpes: "oh man argentine blood sausage" <<< yes. please. [19:06]
mircea_popescu you coming frenchie ? [19:06]
davout i probably will [19:07]
mircea_popescu roast ? [19:07]
davout danielpbarron cazalla Apocalyptic the railzand guy not only has locked the fork off topic but seems to have started a #b-a log digest bitcointalk thread [19:08]
BingoBoingo Link? [19:08]
mircea_popescu mayb someone should tell him fluffypony was actually looking to payu someone to do this ? [19:08]
davout mircea_popescu: that does count as food [19:08]
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mircea_popescu davout no, roast as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y53JLJDOEvE [19:08]
assbot Don Rickles al Roast di Sammy Davis jr (1975) | SUB ITA - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vmkRk4 ) [19:08]
davout BingoBoingo: see his sig, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940941.0 [19:09]
assbot A summary of the logs ... ( http://bit.ly/1vmkTbR ) [19:09]
BingoBoingo Thx davout [19:09]
davout also the qntra mobile is pretty nice! [19:09]
BingoBoingo Thanks. [19:09]
BingoBoingo It is still the same as qntra desktop. [19:09]
davout i'm kinda disappoint that it had to be google telling you [19:09]
davout imma go hang out in that 20m new thread, see what lulz may be extracted [19:10]
mats this log summary is terrible [19:10]
davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999675 <<< not that there is such a thing as 'american cheese', slightly less poisonous plastic maybe [19:11]
assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 04:57:44; asciilifeform: incidentally (non-u.s. folks) if you visit usa and are offered 'american cheese' - run, not walk, to exit [19:11]
davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999683 <<< want. need. desire. [19:11]
assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 04:59:10; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a chunk of pine bark [19:11]
mircea_popescu davout duh. it's great too. [19:11]
mircea_popescu (pine is whey boiled first, make it more placid) [19:12]
BingoBoingo davout: Well google was more the catalyst for doing it now. That and having picked up a Smatr PNohe to actually test on. [19:12]
davout qntra is now officially pooping-friendly [19:12]
ben_vulpes yess [19:13]
ben_vulpes cannot poop without internet [19:13]
ben_vulpes now has qntra for poops [19:13]
davout cazalla's paybase adds should actually be displayed if 'reddit' is found in the referrer string [19:13]
cazalla lol [19:13]
davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#1000123 <<< 'scratch your own itch' makes sense tho [19:14]
assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 19:13:51; fluffypony: but all their FOSS work is pretty much to further their own endeavours [19:14]
BingoBoingo cazalla's paybase adds should actually be displayed if 'reddit' is found in the referrer string But links to Plsdont://paybase.on.nimp.org [19:14]
davout BingoBoingo: what is that? google tells me achtung [19:15]
punkman I only remember it's something bad [19:16]
punkman probably won't do anything without javascript though [19:16]
mircea_popescu or flesh [19:17]
BingoBoingo davout: Shock site. Basically subject.thatdomain opens a cascade of eye rape and screaming. The popups induce more panic than the classic "pain series" [19:17]
mircea_popescu i mean flash [19:17]
mircea_popescu mats they're not really that bad ? [19:18]
mircea_popescu "A sampling of 30% of average forum users isn't the same as 30% of the community, and certainly not the ecosystem. In reality individual users and organizations carry different weight. At the end of the day people who believe in Bitcoin (and invest their money into it) will do what they can to protect that value. The fork which has the most economic value will be the one most likely to survive with confidence of those [19:25]
mircea_popescu who continue to accept it." [19:25]
mircea_popescu lmao @forum. it has NOW discovered the importance of stuff. [19:25]
mircea_popescu funny how this wasn't a consideration before, because "unanimous." [19:25]
BingoBoingo http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/bwdsite/learn/hummingbirds/mantis-hummer.php?sc=migrate [19:25]
assbot Praying Mantis Makes Meal of a Hummingbird | Bird Watcher's Digest ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGMMIi ) [19:25]
mircea_popescu "My understanding is a lot of heavily weighted entities in the ecosystem already support Gavin's proposed course." [19:25]
mats i suppose i'm being harsh. it could use better formatting and some context (maybe links to where author commentary refers?). [19:25]
mircea_popescu hello backwards world! [19:25]
mats who is that anyway? [19:27]
mircea_popescu no idea. [19:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51700 @ 0.00036859 = 19.0561 BTC [+] [19:28]
cazalla anyone know if these cheap shit chinese dlsr lenses are good enough? [19:28]
mircea_popescu good enough for what ? [19:28]
punkman cazalla, what are you looking for? [19:29]
cazalla umm, not even hobbyist photos really.. punkman i want to get a macro lense for taking photos of the bugs and insects that inhabit my garden.. the mantis comment above just reminded me [19:30]
mats i've thought about doing summaries for a while, but i've been preempted [19:30]
punkman get an adapter for old SLR lenses, and some macro tubes [19:30]
punkman what brand is your camera? [19:31]
cazalla i've got a nikon, cheaper d3100 [19:31]
BingoBoingo Wow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10322942#msg10322942 [19:32]
assbot Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGORUt ) [19:32]
punkman macro tubes and lens with manual aperture/focus will work well [19:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94416 @ 0.00036859 = 34.8008 BTC [+] [19:37]
mircea_popescu cazalla anything shoul work ok really, get whatever's accessible. [19:39]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/extruziune.jpg << this was made freehand with a potato. [19:40]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGRtSc ) [19:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123800 @ 0.00036859 = 45.6314 BTC [+] [19:42]
punkman cazalla: here's one for you http://imgur.com/ZnuA8SY,ZZYNyEq#0 [19:43]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGSycW ) [19:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 178000 @ 0.00036481 = 64.9362 BTC [-] {3} [19:47]
cazalla punkman, yeah but i want them from my garden, not on window [19:49]
cazalla first time i've grown watermelon and it seems to have attracted some bee that is really yellow, looks great [19:49]
cazalla quite a few mantis around after carrot fly too [19:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 190247 @ 0.0003583 = 68.1655 BTC [-] {2} [19:51]
punkman cazalla, hard to do macro from a distance [19:52]
cazalla punkman, i can sit and wait until he comes my way :) [19:52]
BingoBoingo cazalla: I though Australia was the sort of place where insects hunt you [19:53]
punkman as to the chinese lenses, they mostly work, many don't fill the entire frame though [19:54]
cazalla BingoBoingo, well yeah, missus does a spider check in the kid's play pen each morning.. found 2 spiders to date [19:54]
mircea_popescu and ate them. [19:54]
BingoBoingo Ah, so the rumors are true. [19:54]
cazalla punkman, would they improve on something like this that i've taken with 15-55mm lens? http://imgur.com/VXVbfdC [19:56]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGWoCQ ) [19:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107700 @ 0.00035433 = 38.1613 BTC [-] {3} [19:56]
punkman cazalla, you'll be able to do more stuff with manual lens [19:58]
asciilifeform go can be statically compiled can it not << it has a runtime. [20:01]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo appreciates ... serious effort to make a 128 MB pogoplug is seriously iterating in a productive << it has yet to be established for certain that this thing can be a reasonable node [20:02]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: If it can't the exercise would reveal a lower bound to target. [20:02]
asciilifeform anyone know if these cheap shit chinese dlsr lenses are good enough << can't speak for the dslr ones, but chinese c-mounts (microscope, in my case) are entirely acceptable [20:04]
BingoBoingo Jury megalol http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/30/us/massachusetts-aaron-hernandez-trial/ [20:04]
assbot Judge to Aaron Hernandez jury: Enjoy Super Bowl but be vigilant - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1BGYMcN ) [20:04]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: in principle, anything -can- - can allow it to swap and destroy ssd rather less slowly [20:06]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: at present, i've swap switched off [20:07]
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mats >Hernandez's DNA also was found on a .45-caliber shell casing found in a car he had rented. [20:15]
mats Sounds suspiciously like he was wearing the piece 'like a gangsta' and sweat into the damn weapon. [20:15]
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mats er, bad construction, but you get the idea... [20:16]
mats nope, nm, i misread. [20:17]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: didja get it built ? [20:17]
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danielpbarron nope; i'm making a gentoo bootable flashdrive now [20:21]
danielpbarron my ubuntu install is too messy and i'm not sure it even supports the cross compiler [20:21]
asciilifeform jurov: any chance of switching the lxr to the merged tree? the win32isms etc. grate on the eye. [20:31]
jurov you mean 0.5.3.1? [20:31]
asciilifeform aha [20:31]
asciilifeform also, can that thing cough up static html in tarball for offline viewing ? [20:32]
asciilifeform or would that require actual work [20:32]
jurov afaik only by crawling [20:32]
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asciilifeform nm then [20:32]
BingoBoingo !up GoMaD [20:32]
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jurov the urls are reasonably static [20:33]
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mircea_popescu check this out : http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin/about/traffic vs http://www.reddit.com/r/buttcoin/about/traffic [20:34]
assbot traffic stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1DrRs79 ) [20:34]
assbot traffic stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1DrRs7l ) [20:34]
mircea_popescu in the great internet battle pitting idiots against trolls... the trolls are winning. [20:34]
mircea_popescu whocouldhavepredicted.jpg [20:34]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, davout: look through orphanage for % of blocks more than 10% off the difficulty << interesting idea [20:37]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: 0.9.0.3... ...i thought this would be a good training wheels program before tackling 0.5.3 << the recent turdballs are considerably gnarlier than 0.5.3, and have rather peculiar behaviours of their own. avoid. [20:39]
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asciilifeform re: gentoo: [20:50]
asciilifeform it is really defined by 'unfeatures.' [20:50]
asciilifeform ;;google unfeature antifeature [20:50]
gribble No matches found. [20:50]
asciilifeform ;;google unfeature anti-feature [20:50]
gribble No matches found. [20:50]
asciilifeform rip google. [20:50]
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BingoBoingo http://blog.djm.net.au/2015/02/key-rotation-in-openssh-68.html [20:51]
assbot djm's personal weblog: Key rotation in OpenSSH 6.8+ ... ( http://bit.ly/1DrU5WH ) [20:51]
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mircea_popescu "all internet security is a slow, half-assed, dubious reimplementation of gossipd. pity gossipd itself doesn't exist yet." [20:54]
asciilifeform ^ who said ? [20:54]
mircea_popescu me. [20:54]
mircea_popescu how's bastard btw ? [20:55]
asciilifeform 204139. [20:55]
asciilifeform actively pumping. [20:55]
thestringpuller hue hue [20:55]
thestringpuller pumping [20:55]
mircea_popescu pretty cool. [20:55]
asciilifeform anyone who wants to try bastard, can make a temporary copy of tree merged up to 5.3.1 and apply the skull'n'crossbone patch. [20:56]
asciilifeform change constant to something reasonable. [20:56]
cazalla hilarious https://twitter.com/vincib/status/561641812948164608 [21:00]
assbot Third pass addressing the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal: http://t.co/oQfE8dIu1s [21:00]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform and if cca 280k this choickes to, what do we do ? what's heron sense say ? [21:02]
asciilifeform 280? [21:02]
asciilifeform why there [21:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112200 @ 0.00036075 = 40.4762 BTC [-] [21:02]
mircea_popescu hunch [21:02]
asciilifeform also that thing's running on a titanic x86 box [21:02]
mircea_popescu cazalla lol [21:02]
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* asciilifeform has two 'pogos' but one is virginal and sitting in crate; it is to be used to test the auto-deflorator (flash virgin unit by plugging into deflowered one) [21:03]
* danielpbarron still has 2 un-opened pogos [21:04]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: repopulate the ports in at least one [21:04]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: very hard to do serious dev work w/out console [21:04]
asciilifeform (see old thread for where/what/how) [21:05]
asciilifeform at the minimum, you will need to solder 3 contacts (rx, tx, gnd) [21:05]
asciilifeform signal is ttl level, not rs232 though [21:05]
danielpbarron just gotta learn how to solder :p [21:06]
danielpbarron luckily, i know a guy [21:06]
asciilifeform you will need one of these http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/Hardware/CP210xTutorial or equivalent. [21:06]
assbot Hardware/CP210xTutorial – OsmocomBB [21:06]
* asciilifeform has ^ [21:06]
asciilifeform even if your machine has an actual serial port. [21:07]
asciilifeform (the latter have rs232 logic levels. will cook a gadget that expects 0/5v) [21:07]
cazalla mircea_popescu, what i don't get is that on reddit, you see the idea of a paywall and microtransactions always discussed as bitcoin's killer app and yet when they come across it being implemented, they cry scam [21:08]
danielpbarron if done in node.js -> not scam [21:09]
* asciilifeform believed, at one point, that the existence of braindamaged programming languages is not a total evil, as they draw mentally defective folks away from actual programming. but, after reading, e.g., the work of the 'power rangers', - is not so sure. [21:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42615 @ 0.00036859 = 15.7075 BTC [+] [21:30]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/02/qntra-s-qntr-january-2015-statement/ [21:33]
BingoBoingo Slow month [21:36]
BingoBoingo Except for eyeballs [21:36]
cazalla i guess so but first 2 weeks of jan were slow just as the last 2 weeks of december were [21:37]
cazalla but i think we've also refined the type of content we publish over the past few months [21:37]
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BingoBoingo Also, puppies https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.tumblr.com/q8dfwso/cTOm7x5ih/puppies.gif [21:41]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HAz3Ly ) [21:41]
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asciilifeform danielpbarron, anyone else having trouble with cross-compilation - 'buildroot' will build, among other necessary things, the toolchain. [21:57]
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asciilifeform ('buildroot' is the ubiquitous automaton for baking small embedded linux boxen) [21:58]
ben_vulpes ;;ping [21:58]
gribble pong [21:58]
BingoBoingo ;;kittenlasers [21:58]
gribble Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command. [21:58]
danielpbarron https://twitter.com/onthefrynge/status/561685769094320129 [21:59]
assbot Trader Life /whaleclubco http://t.co/f2Ws58HqL6 [21:59]
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BingoBoingo http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/31/ye_olde_laptoppe_is_back_after_byod_backlash/ [22:00]
assbot BYOD is NOT the Next Biggest Thing™: Bring me Ye Olde Lappetoppe • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1uO1HO7 ) [22:00]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: reminds me of the centerfolds in knuth's aop. [22:00]
BingoBoingo !up teward [22:03]
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teward so i learned something - assbot doesn't realize I have +2 level2 rep with it o.o [22:03]
* teward glares at kakobrekla then says "fix the bot" [22:03]
teward BingoBoingo: thank you kindly [22:03]
BingoBoingo ;;ident teward [22:03]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'teward', with hostmask 'teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward', is identified as user 'TheLordOfTime', with GPG key id 406253859C1129B6, key fingerprint FE87E56959370E1989828103406253859C1129B6, and bitcoin address 1LEKacNEUzD4gStZScnG2vgkQ9HmpMz1Kp [22:03]
teward ;;gettrust assbot [ident teward] [22:04]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user TheLordOfTime: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=TheLordOfTime | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=TheLordOfTime | Rated since: Thu Mar 21 15:22:44 2013 [22:04]
teward ^ [22:04]
teward assuming the bot actually checks ident of a user [22:04]
teward if it doesn't it needs retooled [22:04]
BingoBoingo !gettrust assbot teward [22:04]
assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user teward: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/teward | http://w.b-a.link/user/teward [22:04]
teward BingoBoingo: teward being my altnick [22:04]
teward this *used* to work actually [22:04]
BingoBoingo !gettrust assbot LordofTime [22:04]
assbot LordofTime is not registered in WoT. [22:04]
teward TheLordOfTime [22:05]
teward check my ident [22:05]
teward ;;ident [22:05]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'teward', with hostmask 'teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward', is identified as user 'TheLordOfTime', with GPG key id 406253859C1129B6, key fingerprint FE87E56959370E1989828103406253859C1129B6, and bitcoin address 1LEKacNEUzD4gStZScnG2vgkQ9HmpMz1Kp [22:05]
BingoBoingo !gettrust assbot TheLordOfTime [22:05]
assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user TheLordOfTime: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/TheLordOfTime | http://w.b-a.link/user/TheLordOfTime [22:05]
BingoBoingo teward: You should be able to !up under that name [22:05]
asciilifeform anybody here ever try 'hoard' ? [22:06]
teward BingoBoingo: and it says I can't [22:06]
asciilifeform http://people.cs.umass.edu/~emery/hoard/hoard-documentation.html [22:06]
assbot The Hoard Memory Allocator ... ( http://bit.ly/1uO2yhV ) [22:06]
teward BingoBoingo: [22:06]
teward [15/01/31 19:56:11] !up [22:06]
teward [15/01/31 19:56:12] You need a better WoT rating for self-up. (level 2 with assbot >0) [22:06]
teward as i said, the bot is broke [22:06]
BingoBoingo teward: Have you tried wearing that nick while asking assbot !up [22:06]
teward BingoBoingo: can't - 150+ channels would be screaming [22:06]
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BingoBoingo Now what happens when !up [22:07]
BingoBoingo !up TheLordOfTime [22:07]
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Guest18566 BingoBoingo: NOW it wants me to auth with it... [22:07]
Guest18566 wtf i ident'd [22:07]
asciilifeform incidentally, classic: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus [22:08]
assbot Linus Torvalds on C++ ... ( http://bit.ly/1uO2Pl2 ) [22:08]
Guest18566 wait [22:08]
BingoBoingo You ident directly with assbot nao. Because of gribble's vacation http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot [22:08]
assbot irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1zIPF03 ) [22:08]
Guest18566 BigBitz: someone stole my nick... [22:08]
Guest18566 this is a problem [22:08]
BingoBoingo It sounds like lots of problems [22:08]
Guest18566 BingoBoingo: [15/01/31 20:04:47] -NickServ- Information on thelordoftime (account thetimelord): <-- musta expired [22:09]
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asciilifeform 'In other words: the choice of C is the only sane choice. I know Miles Bader jokingly said "to piss you off", but it's actually true. I've come to the conclusion that any programmer that would prefer the project to be in C++ over C is likely a programmer that I really *would* prefer to piss off, so that he doesn't come and screw up any project I'm involved with.' [22:09]
teward BingoBoingo: sounds like I need to rape freenode with a stick again [22:09]
asciilifeform ^ linus understood that language is a people-filter, just like gpg etc [22:09]
teward BingoBoingo: if that's a new thing, then the webpage needs updated [22:09]
teward and i'll yell at kakobrekla later [22:09]
teward can't auth as a nick that was stolen from me [22:09]
kakobrekla no need to wait. [22:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00037089 = 10.2551 BTC [+] [22:10]
teward kakobrekla: unfortunately TheLordOfTime, my gribble auth nick, is stolen - must have expired and been taken [22:10]
teward but now i can't !up [22:10]
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teward since !up now binds to your own auth mech [22:11]
teward rather than gribble auth [22:11]
teward and since the nick i auth up as in otc was taken, there's a problem [22:11]
teward got the pgp key for 'teward' but if your bot fails to recognize master/alt nicks... well... [22:12]
teward yer gonna have people like me bringing hell [22:12]
kakobrekla how? [22:12]
teward kakobrekla: probably nickserv expiry - haven't used that nick in eons [22:13]
teward but 9 weeks ago was when it was 'registered' by someone [22:13]
teward tryin to hunt down an irc staffer to figure out what happened [22:13]
kakobrekla 2 options, new asswot handle or change of nick in asswot. re second one im not sure; http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2015#998953 [22:14]
assbot Logged on 30-01-2015 21:27:59; kakobrekla: i know changing names is not a good practice, but perhaps for the sake of sync we could allow to update your name once (given properly signed request from adequate gpg key) [22:14]
punkman why not optional wotnick parameter when using commands? [22:15]
kakobrekla because split personalities belong to #bitcoin-insane-asylum [22:16]
asciilifeform !b 2 [22:16]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/203THVZ.txt ) [22:16]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/assorted-fruits/ [22:17]
assbot Assorted Fruits of Wrath ... ( http://bit.ly/16ddkZJ ) [22:17]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [22:26]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 219.89, vol: 19331.99594995 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 214.25, vol: 9648.99936 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 217.65, vol: 50514.45642919 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 216.9872, vol: 202498.01690000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 216.14762, vol: 13.85219609 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 231.3425, vol: 106.73912136 | Volume-weighted last average: 217.216565742 [22:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59841 @ 0.00037247 = 22.289 BTC [+] {2} [22:29]
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danielpbarron hi flibbr [22:51]
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mircea_popescu cazalla pretty lulzy, that. [22:53]
mircea_popescu !up CryptoGoon [22:53]
mircea_popescu !up teward [22:53]
mircea_popescu !gettrust assbot teward [22:53]
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flibbr hi [22:55]
danielpbarron !gettrust flibbr [22:55]
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-assbot- You voiced CryptoGoon for 30 minutes. [22:56]
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-assbot- You voiced teward for another 30 minutes. [22:56]
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assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user teward: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/teward | http://w.b-a.link/user/teward [22:56]
assbot flibbr is not registered in WoT. [22:56]
mircea_popescu !rate teward 1 freenode staff [22:57]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/e67dbb5b71ef7d4f [22:57]
teward lol freenode staff [22:57]
mircea_popescu did i get it wrong ? [22:57]
teward mircea_popescu: bitcoin op, perhaps, not freenode staffer :) [22:57]
teward if i were freenode staffer cholby would be getting klined on sight every single time [22:58]
mircea_popescu !rate teward 1 guy whose name starts with t. [22:58]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/5aa1b78f8fe024e2 [22:58]
teward and then i'd have my oline revoked for overusing /kline xD [22:58]
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mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.teward.1:fc509d9d4b7e9bcc7fa8f0b03ff66507e9f975b04b153a5a7b45e4bdf99a6b31 [22:58]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for teward with note: guy whose name starts with t. [22:58]
mircea_popescu who's chlolby [22:58]
teward well known freenode troll/spammer/scammer/bitch [22:58]
mircea_popescu teward now you can assbot voice, send !up in pm then !v its string [22:59]
BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2uc77p/would_you_crowdfund_bitcoin_wireless/ << How did it take Reddit so long to cut him loose [22:59]
assbot Would you crowdfund Bitcoin Wireless? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn45Bt ) [22:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2550 @ 0.000999 = 2.5475 BTC [+] {2} [23:00]
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mircea_popescu cazalla: but i think we've also refined the type of content we publish << i guess that's gonna keep getting redefined, iut's what living things do. [23:00]
teward there we go [23:00]
teward mircea_popescu: this needs documented [23:00]
mircea_popescu how do you freenode scam ?! [23:00]
mircea_popescu teward "this" [23:01]
teward mircea_popescu: the auth process for unfamiliar people :) [23:01]
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teward and 'scammer' in that he tries to impersonate staff when he's really bored [23:01]
mircea_popescu http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot [23:01]
assbot irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn4pjB ) [23:01]
teward ends up 'scamming' users into things [23:01]
mircea_popescu heh [23:01]
thestringpuller lol ryanxcharles, bitcoin should be written in node.js [23:02]
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mircea_popescu "The devs have a mandate." [23:08]
mircea_popescu ajhahahaha dude! [23:09]
mircea_popescu usg comedy hour is best comedy hour! [23:09]
kakobrekla BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2uadvd/the_real_reason_ryan_charles_was_fired_from/ [23:10]
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assbot The real reason Ryan Charles was fired from reddit: he spent the entire duration of his employment working on a port of bitcoin core to Javascript. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn66NU ) [23:10]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Yeah, just dunno how that qualifies him to say Bitcoin companie should just stop competing with each other and then dissolve when they solve their problems [23:10]
mircea_popescu eh, kids with shoulds. [23:11]
danielpbarron "what's your business plan?" "to go out of business in a few years" [23:11]
danielpbarron it's not a failure if you planned for it [23:11]
danielpbarron didn't i read something like that already today? [23:12]
ben_vulpes http://welcometobusinesstown.tumblr.com/ [23:12]
assbot BusinessTown ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn6CeQ ) [23:12]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, that just makes him a shoulder [23:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00037689 = 3.882 BTC [+] [23:17]
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mats http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2015/01/greece-wil-operate-eu-imf-creditors-150131013241626.html [23:21]
assbot Greece says it will not negotiate with EU-IMF creditors - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn86FV ) [23:21]
mircea_popescu heh [23:21]
mircea_popescu i hope they had a new york clause in their contract, and griesa gets to judge it [23:21]
mircea_popescu so he can say that greece is right. unlike argentina. [23:21]
mats i'm looking forward to the outcome of this [23:22]
mats will any others develop the courage to leave the EU? huhu [23:23]
mircea_popescu me too [23:23]
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mats asciilifeform: any recommendations for a logic analyzer? preferably something sub $1k [23:25]
asciilifeform mats: 'rigol' ds1102d [23:26]
mats thanks [23:26]
asciilifeform if you -just- need logic analyzer, not scope, [23:26]
asciilifeform theer is an 'open bench logic sniffer' (more or less naked fpga, ~50 usd) [23:26]
asciilifeform but [23:26]
asciilifeform afaik nobody's written any usable proggy for it [23:26]
asciilifeform (author shat out a steaming java heap) [23:27]
asciilifeform if you can spare ~1k usd, get the 'rigol' [23:27]
asciilifeform it wurks. [23:27]
mats i've heard good things about saleae logic, have you used it? [23:27]
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mats software is described as high quality. [23:28]
asciilifeform slow [23:29]
asciilifeform no, haven't used it, can't see why pay real money for ~25MHz ceiling [23:29]
asciilifeform vendor also seems to say it is out of print. [23:29]
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asciilifeform https://www.saleae.com/logic [23:29]
assbot Saleae Logic. The logic analyzer you'll love to use. ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn9N6l ) [23:29]
asciilifeform 'This product is no longer available for purchase' [23:30]
asciilifeform and is that a closed-source turd i see. [23:31]
mats hm. [23:31]
asciilifeform if all you need is something that will decode, e.g., spi, at a few 100 kHz, get the ubiquitous 'bus pirate' [23:33]
mats closed-source seems normal from the researching ive done [23:33]
asciilifeform winblows-only is also 'normal' [23:33]
asciilifeform but it is possible to get decent (if not 'mazerati'-grade) instrumentation without swallowing winblows [23:34]
asciilifeform 'rigol' for instance [23:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00037689 = 20.0505 BTC [+] [23:36]
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danielpbarron !up onewhosits [23:42]
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onewhosits what are some BTC predictions for this coming week? [23:43]
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mats try #bitcoin-pricetalk [23:44]
onewhosits Thanks bro [23:45]
danielpbarron onewhosits, who are you? [23:45]
onewhosits new [23:45]
danielpbarron onewhosits, you know about the WoT yet? [23:48]
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onewhosits no sir, google brings up "world of tanks" aha [23:49]
danielpbarron http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation [23:49]
assbot wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymkz8C ) [23:49]
onewhosits thanks friend [23:53]
BingoBoingo onewhosits: Another important step is getting a cloak and moving off of webchat cloak [23:53]
BingoBoingo Hides your IP, because it is hard to tell when DoS bot will return [23:53]
BingoBoingo So... of all people newbie distro Linux mint if holding off on any systemd for two years http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Mint-18-Will-Probably-Adopt-Systemd-470364.shtml [23:55]
assbot Linux Mint 18 Could Adopt Systemd - Softpedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vneQUu ) [23:55]
onewhosits oh i see. is it risky to use these channels? i run tailsos when i need to [23:57]
mats hard to say. [23:57]
mats i'd avoid doing anything sensitive over Tor, though [23:58]
mats http://qntra.net/2014/11/this-onion-it-smells-inherent-hazards-of-the-tor-network [23:58]
assbot This Onion, It Smells: Inherent Hazards of the Tor Network | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymmtWw ) [23:58]
mats some curmudgeon operating an exit node could diddle your traffic. [23:59]
BingoBoingo onewhosits: More just some vandal has a bot that lurks and DoS's connections as it seens them join. Cloak should be enough to defeat that. To connect with Tor you'd need a cloak anyway. [23:59]
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